classic-doom

[violet bison]

you want a no secrets at all run

[stiff merlin]

secretless- meaning without secrets

just like jumpless has no jumps, pacifist runs dont allow you to kill

[violet bison]

i got the implication you wanted to do a run without secrets, which any% is but not everyone has to not do no secrets

[stiff merlin]

the challenge would be in them not being allowed to do secrets

the game changes completely if you skip secrets

for example pistol start map09 without secrets gets harder

[violet bison]

but if they want fast then yes they do have to no secrets cuz secrets take extra time

[stiff merlin]

certain maps technically are impossible

[stiff merlin]

i mean i suppouse, probably right here

but on the other hand i dont know how the routes for doom games look, they might potentially go for secrets due to useful items in there

i dont think bfg is ever just given straight up, and it helps alot probably

after playing doom 1993, certain levels require enemy deaths, like the final missions of episode 2 and 3

[violet bison]

anyone have doom for some stupid shi-

currently slaying demons on my 3ds (the 3d works)

[stiff merlin]

i was planning to get doom on 3ds

[violet bison]

i can teach

[stiff merlin]

no need

i have been doing 3ds hacking for a few years now

prboom+?

[violet bison]

ive been hacking for a few days and did it u good

[stiff merlin]

i didnt do it since wasnt in the mood

[violet bison]

no just prboom no plus

[stiff merlin]

hmm, nice

[violet bison]

#screenshots message

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah as I said, do em with sequential first, THEN start with pistol

[stiff merlin]

Sequential as in, from the game start?

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah, with weapons and armor from previous map

[stiff merlin]

Isnt that noobie?

[cosmic pagoda]

no thats normal play

[gusty bobcat]

Its to just have foreknowledge of the maps

Build up the experience

Then do it for real

[cosmic pagoda]

no sense in pistol starting for blind plays unless you are a doom god and/or doing it for youtube

[gusty bobcat]

Yes

[stiff merlin]

@cosmic pagoda @gusty bobcat what do you think about going to simpler levels like dead simple to gear up for the next one when not doing levels one by another?

[gusty bobcat]

i normally just play in order

if not i just pistol start

[cosmic pagoda]

worth doing 1-30 sequentially at least once anyway

[stiff merlin]

i mean yeah absolutely, but if for example i wanna train for tricks and traps, instead of going from the start i could go from dead simple

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean you can

but tricks and traps is pretty tame towards pistol starts anyway, you get a bfg and rl pretty much at the start etc

[stiff merlin]

fair, but you know what im saying

i suppouse i could also instead of pistol start do some cheatcode for all items and ammo

lol

[cosmic pagoda]

why even pistol start if you are gonna cheat anyway

[stiff merlin]

said instead of pistol start

and i mean, like, pistol start is harder for me so if id want a specific level, i could gear up on level prior for it

[vale gyro]

In my opinion, if I, someone who still can die on Doom 1 on HMP, was able to pistol start tricks and traps on UV after a bit, I think you most likely could do it . But you do what you want, your game, not mine

[stiff merlin]

i mean its not a question of whether or not i can do it

since i can and did do it a few hours ago

the question is around the idea of gearing up on a previous level if the current one gives me trouble

[vale gyro]

Oh

If you wanna do it, sure

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah, ultimately its your game, you play it how you are having the most fun

[vale gyro]

If you’re using Woof, you can give yourself specific weapons with the WEAP cheat code. GZDoom I think has a console command that allows you to do that

[stiff merlin]

i mean fair, but you know, i suck a bit, stuff like pit on pistol start gave me some trouble

[vale gyro]

Although it won’t give you ammo in Woof’s case

[cosmic pagoda]

speaking of pistol starts on UV, time to tackle this beast
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/MAP15:_Where_Hate_Runs_Red_(Plutonia_2)

[vale gyro]

I saw Plutonia and instantly backed off lmao

[cosmic pagoda]

its plutonia 2, the unofficial sequel

[vale gyro]

Oh

[cosmic pagoda]

very well made, but very punishing

[stiff merlin]

Also, i did beat pit pistol start but i am a perfectionist

[vale gyro]

I really need to do Final Doom once I’m done with my Doom 1 (NOT with E4) run on UV

My hate against E4 still continues a year after I actually beat it

[cosmic pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eEI2yxdKSE

highly recommended megawad

but only if you like a challenge, its brutally hard, but well made

love it, trying to pistol start through it now, even tho its kicking my arse hard

[stiff merlin]

Anyone knows any endless type maps? I am a major fan of roguelikes, but currently looking specifically for an endless map

If such a thing exists, let me know

I know about doom infinite, gonna try it out soon

[cosmic pagoda]

awfully good yes

[stiff merlin]

whats the command i should use to open doom infinite

or more like, pk3 files

[grand glacier]

whats doom infinite?

[vale gyro]

It’s still -file

You need GZDoom, by the way

[stiff merlin]

yeah i know, its fine

i just had a massive brainfart and forgot they were in different directories

[vale gyro]

Oh lol

[finite crag]

Perfect Hatred pistol start is criminal. Nothing more, nothing less.

[gusty bobcat]

I like it

i think its fun once you know the maps

[waxen zealot]

add in -fast for extra spice lmao

[gusty bobcat]

YES

[eager solstice]

where is the setting in GZdoom to turn of motion bobbing

[cosmic pagoda]

it only bobs your gun doesnt it?

you want your gun to bob

how else are you going to time your skips across nukage

[vast reef]

have you seen gameplay with bob off

it looks so cursed lmao

[silent pelican]

Options -> Full Options Menu- > Hud Options, "View bobbing" etc that you can adjust

I think these are the default values
View bob amount while moving = 0.25
View bob amount while not moving = 0.00
Weapon bob speed = 1.0
View bob amount when firing = 0.00

And by setting all them 0.00 its off

[eager solstice]

thanks that was helpful

[cursive cipher]

does anyone know where/if the unity port keeps its wad?
like the wad used to launch the actual unity port, different than the one in base

oh I think I found it

how interesting...

this shit looks really easy to mod actually

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1218263144208797716/image.png

it looks like the main game is in doom.wad while all the add-ons are together in extras.wad?

I'll have to unpack it all sometime and see what I can glimpse of it

[gusty bobcat]

no, they exist separately, extras just includes a few graphics and sounds used only by the unity port

[cursive cipher]

ah
where are they, then? I didn't spot and other wads

[gusty bobcat]

Have you downloaded them first? i only really play on source ports so i get them on idgames archive and doomworld forums so i wouldn't know where they be in the unity port

[cursive cipher]

yeah I have them downloaded

[stiff merlin]

I think im gonna try out brutal doom soon

[vast reef]

there's already tools for modding unity doom

[vast reef]

not worth your time

try reelism

[cursive cipher]

I just wanna fix the medikits 😭

but also like, you could super easily cut out the intros and stuff
or rather replace them with other things at least

same for the base OST? sick

[visual star]

brutal doom is pretty fun actually. make sure to play the v22 beta 3 or whatever because its really good

i prefer vanilla classic doom but brutal doom is a nice way to shake things up sometimes

although if you want a mod like brutal doom, i suggest quake 1.5 (now called combat+)

quake 1.5 is very fun, even if i do prefer vanilla quake.

[vast reef]

what other mods have you played

[visual star]

too many to count

[vast reef]

ur a real one

[visual star]

anyway recently i got into the first quake and its now like my favorite game after doom lol

[vast reef]

surprisingly enough ive only met like 2 ppl who say bd is fun whilst being deep into the modding scene

bc i ask everybody who says bd is awesome and allat what other mods theyve played and it's almost always like 2 others or just bd

[visual star]

brutal doom is fun. i wouldnt say its better than vanilla, but i would say it is fun and a nice way to shake things up so things arent too repetitive on your millionth time playing

[vast reef]

bd is just,,, really underwhelming and unstreamlined compared to other mods

complex doom is overwhelming and unstreamlined so it's shit in a different way but i love it for that

[visual star]

i havent played project brutality yet, but i dont think i need to. doesnt sound like something for me

[vast reef]

have you played the classic gameplay mods

[visual star]

yeah lol

[vast reef]

the pillowblaster, terminusest13, xaser, etc. mods

[visual star]

not sure if harmony counts but i really liked harmony. oh yeah, mods like action doom 2 i think were pretty good too

i also played marine doom 2 out of curiosity lol

if you dont know, the real like us military or something at some point like trained soldiers a bit with a doom mod called marine doom 2 i think (im not 100% sure, i havent found any proof of it being real and something they actually did but i dont really care because its interesting and i'd rather be lied to than be bored lol)

im canadian btw lol

[vast reef]

nice im filipino

[visual star]

ok cool

but yeah, if someone wants a like brutal doom-esque experience that isnt as overboard and honestly, kinda better, i suggest trying out the quake 1 mod, combat+/quake 1.5

its like the only brutal mod i play alllmoost as much as vanilla

[vast reef]

brutal doom isnt that overboard 4 me

[visual star]

it is for me lol

[vast reef]

which is why i found it underwhelming

[vast reef]

crazy

[visual star]

im just not really a gamer lol

i just play games to forget my depression and many other issues and leave life for a bit

[vast reef]

i played batshit mods like russian overkill paired with colorful hell and tons of other stuff before brutal doom so like

yeah

[visual star]

i only like got into shooters a couple years ago or so

with classic doom's rerelease on the switch lol

[vast reef]

i got into shooters in 2022

[visual star]

i got it because it was super cheap and i like have some small childhood memories of like seeing doom and hearing about it

i've always liked cooler things and loved things from the 90s like sonic and oh, that was it lmao

doom is really cool though

and i really love the first quake too now. i tried out some of the other quake games but i never really liked them

quake 2 is fun i guess but i still like the first quake way more

[vast reef]

im like 3 years old so the 90s r just smth i hear abt from my parents

[visual star]

same lol

actually no nobody talks about the 90s, its always about the 80s and stuff

[vast reef]

only thing i associate with the 90s r music games and comic books

[vast reef]

the 90s r super talked abt in the circles im in

[visual star]

good for you?

its so annoying hearing about the 80s so much

[vast reef]

mainly cuz like

[vast reef]

extreme metal peaked in the 90s

[visual star]

mmmmmmm

metal

[vast reef]

boomshoots were also on fire back then

[visual star]

im a metalhead or whatever lol

[vast reef]

what genres u into

[visual star]

literally every subgenre of metal, anything that sounds good, but i dont really like rap and hip hop, not for me

[vast reef]

im a black shirt camo shorts bdm and grind typa guy

[vast reef]

damn

what abt favorites

[visual star]

melodic deathmetal

alternate metal

metalcore

[vast reef]

irreconcilable musical differences /j

what typa metalcore

[visual star]

my 3 favorite bands are arch enemy, avenged sevenfold and the agonist

[vast reef]

chugga chugga meathead like hatebreed or more hipster-y stuff

or the mathy 90s shiz

[vast reef]

you fw war metal?

[visual star]

idk lol

[vast reef]

tetragrammacide and allat

[visual star]

i love super angry metal and some of the occasional beautiful stuff

[vast reef]

i NEED more shit like pissgrave man istg

[visual star]

oh yeah i like another band too

architects

[vast reef]

which super angry metal

[vast reef]

slow or fast

[visual star]

fast and slow

[vast reef]

true...

[visual star]

i like a mix of both

mostly fast angry metal with the slow angry beatdown

[vast reef]

mmm

you would love nails

[visual star]

i love when theres choirs in metal

[vast reef]

probably already do

[visual star]

and i love talented drummers

im a drummer myself lol

[vast reef]

im a dogshit drummer

[visual star]

my biggest musical inspiration might be jimmy "the rev" sullivan from avenged sevenfold

[vast reef]

no idea why im in a band

[visual star]

i can put together a pretty good drum solo

[vast reef]

my fave drummer is brian chippendale

flo mounier and zach hill too

[vast reef]

do u listen to tech death

cryptopsy is SO. FUCKING. GOOD.

[visual star]

i actually make some music of my own, but like 99% of it is covers lol

[visual star]

never heard of it

[vast reef]

you said you listen to every subgenre 😢

[visual star]

idk lol i just like anything metal

i'll check it out

anything with drumming and guitars and is angry or beautiful i like

avenged sevenfold is an example of a beautiful metal band for me

[vast reef]

https://youtu.be/H-ZRotpj9Yw

[visual star]

thank yyouuuu

i'll listen rn

ooh

yeah i like this

[mortal carbon]

hi

[vast reef]

doom and halo SUCK!

[visual star]

i really like it but i kinda want a bit more unique rythm to it

@mortal carbon dont worry, they're joking (i think lol)

[vast reef]

im not smart enough to understand "unique" rhythms i kinda just go woahh blastblastblastblastblast

anywau we're super offtopic from the channel LOL

[visual star]

yea lol

well doom is literally what i describe metal as

[mortal carbon]

says who?

[visual star]

angry kickass fun ride through hell

[vast reef]

me i HATE doom and halo they SUCK

shooting people is BAD it's NOT good

[mortal carbon]

in Doom eternal who is the anoyying demon in the game

[vast reef]

they mostly say whiplash or carcass

[mortal carbon]

then why are in a doom discord server?

[vast reef]

this is the doom discord?? i am LEAVING

[mortal carbon]

.....

lol

im board.....

is anyone on this sever?!

[vale gyro]

yeah

[mortal carbon]

oh...hi!

[vale gyro]

I’ve been playing Doom 1 with a real PC Speaker for a bit now because of the fact I got no audio on the old Dell XP machine I have

starting to find it weirdly charming for some reason

[mortal carbon]

nice

[echo current]

Thy Flesh Consumed and suck it for all I care

E4 M6 literally the worst classic doom map

Honesty the entire campaign feels like Doom 2 in Doom 1's game design

[coarse pagoda]

Arch-vile

Marauder

You name it

[cursive cipher]

Tell me about these mysterious devices

[stiff merlin]

You arent shooting people you are shooting demons 😎😎😎

[vast reef]

demons are EVIL they are from HELL that is BAD and GOD does NOT approve

[stiff merlin]

God approves of beating the fuck out of demons

[vast reef]

cognitive dissonance...

[stiff merlin]

Oh so god preffers when you dont shoot demons? When you worship SATAN?

Doom is the most christian game

[vast reef]

...

...not worth talking to...

[ebon ferry]

alright doomers, In Doom II theres this weird vent thing in Level 16: The suburbs, is there any way i can access it?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870548636709314583/1218520731973845083/image.png?ex=6607f6dd&is=65f581dd&hm=203fe039c1e188f74f7863e6fb8ead8e29b7bf1063a4705775415f8e1c776766&

amazing, image doesnt embed

[azure nimbus]

try playing in -nomonsters and just spend time exploring

[upper crypt]

Well it was made after Doom 2 so that makes sense

[upper crypt]

Dm me the pic because I can’t see what you’ve sent

[ebon ferry]

arright

[azure nimbus]

archviles are a joke in that game

[supple sand]

i bet from the demons pov doomguy is shooting bfg balls out of his rifle

[azure nimbus]

yeah. there were never official sprites of 3rd person doomguy with other his actual weapons. The only difference is that the "gun" won't muzzle flash for melee attacks

[coarse pagoda]

I don’t like them anyway. Having more than one of them alive among all the demons is the worst thing ever.

Being disturbing in Doom II as well

[azure nimbus]

Part of it is that with BFG, and Crucible, and Ice, the game isn't balanced in their favor at all without choosing to not use those items

[coarse pagoda]

I rarely use BFG tbh

Crucible was not really a useful item

Unmaykr is truly useless in ordinary gameplay

[vast reef]

the fuck is an unmaykr

[coarse pagoda]

Unmaker

[cosmic pagoda]

some things work really well with pc speaker, man adlib supaplex theme has nothing on the pc speaker version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGOrjJuQARs

[grand tartan]

e2m9?

[vestal sable]

anyone else feel like the hell knight was only created as a way for id to fix the baron for regular combat?

i feel like they only gave the baron 1000 hp because it was a boss that one time

[void hemlock]

You have a skill issue

Honestly

E2M9 isn’t that bad, all you have to do is act fast and that’s it

I can even complete that on Nightmare when I tried it out

The map is INSANELY short for a Doom map as well

If, the shortest

E4M6? Yeah I personally agree though

E4M6 is just, hatred

People say E4M2 is the worst but I was able to complete that in 3 tries on my Steam Deck on UV

It’s not that difficult, all you just need to do for that map is to properly have a game plan in on how to route the map

[grand tartan]

It's not that I find the map difficult, but that it is uninteresting, and bland, all you do is run forward and avoid a few barons and cacos. I just see it as the worst map because it really just boring in my opinion

e4m6 is definitely the hardest level in the origional doom

But I just find e2m9 the worst

[finite crag]

Are there some wads which balance is like in doom 2?

[void hemlock]

Ah ok, makes sense and I do agree. E2M9 is the worst in terms of design.

[void hemlock]

Glad we have the same opinion on what maps are the hardest though

E4M6 will always be the worst in terms of difficulty because good lord it took me like 20 tries in order to make it through originally when playing on Deck, even when I knew the routing

[grand tartan]

The lava room with the teleportal on the pole is my hell

[grand tartan]

They spent more time coming up with the name of the level than the actual level itself

[void hemlock]

Well they really kinda didn't at the same time

It's (almost) all quotes taken from a few passages of the King James version of the Bible

[azure nimbus]

the Eternal version of the Unmaker. They behave pretty differently

[void hemlock]

Which I find amusing considering Doom's nature

[cosmic pagoda]

why do you think that?

sorry wrong reply

[cosmic pagoda]

why do you think that?

imo e4m6 and e4m2 are the best maps of e4

nah, this is the worst classic doom map:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP22:_Habitat_(TNT:_Evilution)

although I hate administrator center and crater even more, because they are longer and more boring

[void hemlock]

well, E2M9 is the worst id map

I do agree that Habitat is literally a joke though in TNT

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean, e2m9 is bad, but its over quick

@azure nimbus hows e2m9 on nightmare btw, seems like it would be easy

should probably do that for the easy tick on my nm100s list soon

I was going through e3, took a break after finishing e3m3 and trying to get through e3m4 for a while

so far I have done e1m1, e1m2, e2m8(this one first try too, lol cybies become so much easier on NM), e3m1, e3m2, e3m3

[mortal carbon]

[stiff merlin]

man i really want a mod that adds a p90

but cant find any, how hard is it to make a gun mod for doom

[cosmic pagoda]

depends on what you want to change

either way, what purpose would a p90 serve in doom anyway

its function is more than handled by the chaingun

[stiff merlin]

funsies

or just a sprite change tbh

[cosmic pagoda]

well to change a sprite is really easy

just make a pwad where you change in the sprite and thats it

the hardest part being making the sprite

[stiff merlin]

hmm okay

if im gonna use it only for myself, i can just like

steal it or make it lower quality

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah sure

[stiff merlin]

tho what about actually making a gun?

with different stats? or like a sniper rifle or something

[cosmic pagoda]

depends on the compatability, for just stats you can get away with dhacked likely, for a sniper rifle and what not you need to code a proper zdoom mod

[stiff merlin]

how does one make a pwad with textures anyway?

whats dehacked?

[cosmic pagoda]

by using something like slade or xwe

[stiff merlin]

what are those 😭

may you direct me to some guides?

[cosmic pagoda]

software

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/SLADE

[stiff merlin]

uhhh

[cosmic pagoda]

I suggest looking up its documentation

and learning by playing around

[stiff merlin]

i might do that yeah

what would you recommend i start with?

[cold badge]

im stuck on e2m4

i really suck at doom

[stiff merlin]

whats the maps name? i might help you

or like, remind me what was it

what are you struggling with specifically

[cosmic pagoda]

we all sucked at doom at some point, youll get better dw about it

[cold badge]

let me check

[cosmic pagoda]

where are you stuck

its deimos lab, love the map

[cold badge]

im right at where the exit is

[silent pelican]

Heyy, its my favourite maps

[cosmic pagoda]

one of mine too

[cosmic pagoda]

and cant get to it?

[silent pelican]

The switch is close to the exit under

it uppers the bridge

[cold badge]

yeah

[cosmic pagoda]

jump into the nukage, hit the switch, go to teleporter, then you get teleported to the round room

go back through the teleporter that lead you to the exit room

and use the raised platform

[cold badge]

thanks

[cosmic pagoda]

||also when you enter the exit room, turn back for a secret||

[silent pelican]

Its like when you are in the lava opening it is to the left, jump down there

[cosmic pagoda]

whats your opinion on e2m6? I think its way underrated, one of my favourite doom 1 maps ever, very atmospheric, has one of the best bobby prince tracks as well

altho e2m4 midi is also gloriously twisted

[vale gyro]

you'd also probably want something like GIMP to make the textures

just adding on from what Murk just told you

[stiff merlin]

textures arent the problem for me, just the coding part

[vale gyro]

ah

there's really no coding involved if it's just a sprite change

[silent pelican]

My favourite episode is 2 like almost all the maps, e2m6 it is underrated i guess but it is very well done for using the goggle pickups and how to ration them

[vale gyro]

heck, you could just get away with basic DEHACKED if you wanna increase the firerate of the chain gun

[stiff merlin]

i mean yeah, but also considering making the sprite change and a few weapon tweaks

still no idea what dehacked is

[cosmic pagoda]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DeHackEd

[vale gyro]

you beat me to it lol

[stiff merlin]

oh, can slade work too tho? found a guide on it

[vale gyro]

you need slade for textures

[cosmic pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-final-fantasy-vii-ffvii-frog-dance-gif-16104435

[vale gyro]

you need WhackEd4 for making the Dehacked

[stiff merlin]

dehacked is a file or the editor then?

[vale gyro]

and Slade again to embed the dehacked lump into the wad

[vale gyro]

file

WhackEd4 is the editor pretty much

[stiff merlin]

so for only texture change its only slade?

[vale gyro]

and embedding the patch into the wad

[silent pelican]

@cosmic pagoda only thing that map has something off its the start for having way too many health pickups in the first switches after berserk switch buts thats about the only "what is this" thing that comes to mind but overall it is very nice map to play over again

[vale gyro]

so basically

[stiff merlin]

complicated words....

[vale gyro]

the patch is the dehacked

[silent pelican]

But maybe they can be useful in the end i dont know

Ah and also the fake exit

[vale gyro]

embedding it is so you only need to load the WAD instead of having to load both the dehacked and wad

[silent pelican]

Fake exit was nice touch

[stiff merlin]

okay that makes sense

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah the fake exit, if you dont know its coming its gets you well, however if you do you can make it out the door before the floor lowers and cheese the contents of the trap

[vale gyro]

I've only made one quick mod to replace the fist with dual fists so I wouldn't call myself qualified to help you fully

but I could give some pointers

[stiff merlin]

i mean, i havent dont any modding of doom

what i mostly wanted was to add the p90 as something that works like the chaingun with different stats

reason? just pure fun, and i think thats enough

no need to find a reason to add something for a game i play for fun anyway

[vale gyro]

you can't increase damage if that's what you're looking for

[cosmic pagoda]

love how plutonia map31 revisits the fake exit idea with a trap that throws 3 million revenants at you

[vale gyro]

you'll actually need to learn ZScript

[stiff merlin]

oh?

[stiff merlin]

so the damage is tied to bullets?

[vale gyro]

but if it's just a reskin and maybe a fire rate increase it'll work

[vale gyro]

hard to explain

[stiff merlin]

i assume in such case that zscript wont work on chocolate?

[vale gyro]

or something similar

[vale gyro]

nope, need a ZDoom based port

[stiff merlin]

hmm i see

[vale gyro]

like GZDoom

[stiff merlin]

well then ill just change it into a reskin i suppouse

how could it be done on vanilla ports then though?

[cosmic pagoda]

well every hitscan(bullet, shotgun pellet, punch, chainsaw hit) works identically

[stiff merlin]

ah, so all have the exact same damage

[cosmic pagoda]

yes

[stiff merlin]

which is 15

[cosmic pagoda]

its random

[stiff merlin]

i mean yeah true

[cosmic pagoda]

also bfg tracer

[stiff merlin]

found a nice p90 texture for doom somewhere

[cosmic pagoda]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Hitscan

[stiff merlin]

without all the frames, so im gonna probably draw some amature gun flashes on it

and make it move a bit when shooting

[cosmic pagoda]

mind you its gonna look different when squished to the doom 256 color palette

[stiff merlin]

yeah but its literally actually for some doom mod it seems

[cosmic pagoda]

oh then probably already is squished to that palette

[stiff merlin]

gonna take it since not gonna share the wad with anyone, and its just that alone

[cosmic pagoda]

I ran into that problem when making textures for my pet wad

textures looked good in photoshop but down at 256 colors they sucked

[stiff merlin]

i wonder if i could technically just take a model from online, make it into a screenshot where the gun is pointed like they are in doom, and then just lower the quality

it wont look good, but will be surely better than anything i draw, and i dont know how to make good doom sprites yet

[cosmic pagoda]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/634517968578936842/1218697465977503794/image.png?ex=66089b76&is=65f62676&hm=020366977da3c3d6665d24c823025d13e96e2458a7fa084a490cf8b53a590ef6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=930&height=744

this one was particularly badly affected

dont think I have the original image anymore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634517968578936842/1218697719883763752/image.png?ex=66089bb2&is=65f626b2&hm=7b19733b8332eaa43a93eea15a60e151241bdf33c9c54cd1a255d97006ce07a8&

same texture with different colors worked very well then again

[stiff merlin]

Oof

So turning a model into a gun might turn out bad?

I need mostly the shapes, the coloring can be done later on

[cosmic pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634517968578936842/1218699266164392028/image.png?ex=66089d23&is=65f62823&hm=8cbcb6adfbe13c485700b55d6bd23bd80702d74ca94ccf17a117cb9df42b37bc&

then again its not too bad when in game and dark

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634517968578936842/1218699517097148436/image.png?ex=66089d5f&is=65f6285f&hm=8a3c1f579fc67257066b2d149bf12f794e445001220929b8d50895c460836b67&

the other one looks way better tho

[stiff merlin]

What do you think bout it? Colors dont matter as much for me as the shape since its easier for me to fix the color than shape

[cosmic pagoda]

well yaeh, gotta have it same size too

take screenshots and place onto canvas I suppose

[stiff merlin]

So down scaled i suppose

[vale gyro]

my suggestion is to take a model and make it solid colors

then edit as needed

[stiff merlin]

Hmm, nice idea

[cosmic pagoda]

you could also export the chaingun sprites

then open in image editor, place your gun on each one

and then import them

[stiff merlin]

I suppose so yeah

[vale gyro]

doesn't anyone else agree E3M6 is kinda dumb in the sense you have to find a random secret to beat the level?

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean its tagged as secret but kinda makes sense in that twisted sandys hell world sense

[vale gyro]

aaand my UV run of E3 is done

[cosmic pagoda]

gj

now time for NM? 😄

[vale gyro]

no.

I'm not even doing E4 on UV

Mastermind on NM in 36 seconds was good enough for me

[cosmic pagoda]

gj

[silent pelican]

Is there supposed to be more exit ways? When i looked tips for it the first one was to rocket "jump" from the wall while on invulnerability pickup, one time i exit the level without doing that but i dont recall how

[vale gyro]

that was secret iirc

[cosmic pagoda]

youll probably do e4 on UV in this year, with not too much hassle tbh, if you keep playing doom at a steady rate

[vale gyro]

maybe

but I absolutely hated E4 when I first played it

[silent pelican]

Not one of the maps that i like to play often hh

[vale gyro]

although I might do a re-run of E4 and Sigil 1 on HMP

as I don't think I did E4 on HMP

think I did it on HNTR, could be wrong, though

I know I did HMP on Sigil 1

[cosmic pagoda]

e4 not my fave either, it starts getting into what kinda makes sigil slightly lacking and sigil 2 even moreso

not enough enemy variety to keep the increasing difficulty interesting

[vale gyro]

I actually liked both Sigils more than E4

[cosmic pagoda]

e4 and both sigils would be so much better if they had hell knights in doom 1

theres a distinct lack of a mid tier enemy in doom 1

hell knight fills that spot marvellously

barons are too bullet spongy so when used in larger numbers, especially without the ssg, they get tedious

[vale gyro]

yeah, that's the one thing I disliked about Sigil 1 and specifically the first baron on E5M1

[cosmic pagoda]

two hell knights are way more fun to fight than a single baron even though the combined hp pool is equal

[azure nimbus]

def one of the first ones to tackle. very doable

either get them to infight, or let the other guys get close to the door so you cn run easy

[cosmic pagoda]

oh, nice

probably can do e3m9 easy too tbh

its just e3m1 basically with extra steps

you do that, grab invuln and you win

[azure nimbus]

all of e3 is really doable

[cosmic pagoda]

I can say so far that first 3 certainly are 😄

[azure nimbus]

the one where the pinkies are at the start and you can go left or right is probably the hardest one

[cosmic pagoda]

oh thats probably e3m4 you mean?

yeah I tried a bit and thought Ill take a break from NM after a while 😄

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/E3M4:_House_of_Pain_(Doom)

this one you mean?

e3m3 was also tough, at least at the start but luckily thats an easy restart

when the pinky who faces you dont cooperate you are dead

and also when you get ganged up on on your way from the chaingun secret to the RL

once you get RL you kind of win

and bfg makes for an easy end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCz5fUycyB4
I took a short 1 minute clip in december while I was still attempting it from a few attempts 😄

finally got it but it took a lot of attempts

[azure nimbus]

yep, probably the hardest e3 map to my memory(mind you I did nightmare like 2 years ago)

[hot oyster]

hello there. does anybody know how I could fix feeling motion sickness while playing Doom 2? the steam version of it is the second fps game that managed to make me feel physically sick while playing it in almost 2 decades which is a shame cos I was kinda enjoying this relic

[sick mist]

You could try to increase the FOV.
Maybe its to low for you.

I have the same problem with older games where u can't change it.

Especially if its a very low FOV like 55-60.

Try upping it to 85-110 and find your personal sweetspot.

I dont know what sourceport/version you play, but look in the settings for something like "FOV" or "Field Of View"

[azure nimbus]

it most likely would not be in the settings menu, but on a port you can change the settings file. It'll be DSDA..cfg if youre on DSDA doom under FOV

[vast reef]

140 fov gang wya

[cosmic pagoda]

what FOV feels normal also depends on aspect ratio

so on an original aspect installation of doom youd want a lower fov than widescreen

[cursive cipher]

how do you guys use saves for casual play? like when do you decide to make a slot?

[tender fractal]

@finite crag could you tell me the lore of the first doom please?

[finite crag]

Look up the manual.

It's got the story prior to the beginning of the game in it.

[tender fractal]

Okay

[stiff merlin]

What do you think about mods that have weapons not in the middle of the screen?

[cursive cipher]

heretical

[vale gyro]

my save system usually is like this

• One save per level initially for new WADS
• Save per fight when a level becomes harder
• No saves for WADs I know well (like Doom 1's first 2 episodes) unless I plan to get off, then I reset my save when I die

I will deviate from it sometimes when a mapset becomes too hard and then I slowly start to savescum

[stiff merlin]

I mean yeah, but cant get it in any other angle sadly

I really want to use certain guns in doom

But man, seeing it from a non center angle will mess eith my head

[supple sand]

my mouse keeps moving backwards how do i fix it

[stiff merlin]

Tf does that mean

[supple sand]

everytime i move my mouse i move backwards

its stressing me out

[vale gyro]

what port are you using?

[supple sand]

dosbox

[vale gyro]

you want to install and run the NOVERT utility then

I'll check the config to double check if you can just put the vertical sens to 0, though

[vale gyro]

nope

[vale gyro]

for this, you can find it online somewhere

you'll want to put it inside your DOOM directory

and everytime before you run Doom, run NOVERT

if you're running Boom inside of DOSBOX, though

You can go into the mouse sensitivity settings and turn the vertical mouse movement all the way down iirc

[supple sand]

it fixed it

i can finally not slip of platforms

ty

[hot oyster]

so the FOV changer is in config files, huh?

[cursive cipher]

sigil II has a lot of just, innescapable death pits huh

[azure nimbus]

yes

[worldly furnace]

what's everyone talking about

[smoky gorge]

Anyone know how to have custom configuration settings between mods in GZDoom? That's basically the soul reason why I don't use it.

[gusty bobcat]

gzdoom has a command line option to select a different config file, so you can have different configs for different mods

[smoky gorge]

I think the config file is gzdoom.pk3, as that's how it's work in a test I just did.

Right?

[vale gyro]

it isn't

it's actually stored in the "My Games" folder in your Documents folder

[gusty bobcat]

No

[vale gyro]

at least on Windows

[gusty bobcat]

gzdoom.pk3 just contains custom graphics, mapinfo definitions and other misc stuff

The config file is gzdoom.ini

[smoky gorge]

Oh, alright. Thanks.

[smoky gorge]

From my test I did though, one of the duplicates I made stored data for if the mouse was touchscreen-like or normal.

[smoky gorge]

Uhh, okay stuff works, but even if I turn freelook off, it's on the next time I boot up my shortcut. Could someone help me out?

[azure nimbus]

gz's freelook has been buggy with setting it one way or another

[twilit smelt]

i need doom 1 and 2 mod suggestions

[vast reef]

when i enter an empty room with items

or when i'm about to grab a key or a power-up

[vast reef]

project malice

[twilit smelt]

what software

[vast reef]

gzdoom

honestly i havent checked out doom mods in a while :<

[smoky gorge]

So if I were to try to run Strife on GZDOOM with a shortcut using command line commands, how would I go about doing it?
It's GZDOOM, so I think it fits with this channel.

[vale gyro]

You could try using the -iwad parameter

[smoky gorge]

I've gotten it working.

[smoky gorge]

There are still a bunch of settings like FOV that haven't carried over from when I duplicated the .INI file that I utilized for my DOOM IWADS and used the copy for my Strife IWADS, some stuff didn't carry over like FOV and such. All of the settings shared between DOOM and DOOM II are the same despite me not changing anything for DOOM II. Any reason for this?

[finite crag]

Guys, I want a simple 32 map megawad balanced like doom 2 or freedoom 2

Im tired of slaughtery and want to look at some normally constructed fights

[haughty mortar]

is there a WAD where I can make 2 enemies fight?

for doom 2

[remote cedar]

What

You mean like enemy infighting?

All Classic Doom games have that feature

Make sure to attack none of the demons involved, wait for one demon to try to attack you and hit the other, which will retaliate against its aggressor

[vast reef]

i think they mean a wad that automatically makes enemies fight

[haughty mortar]

yeah like a ring

a wad focused on enemies on some kind of stage fighting

[cosmic pagoda]

tnt is around as difficult as doom2 and similiarly boring fights, or even more boring

[finite crag]

Ive already beaten it

[stiff merlin]

i noticed i get a sudden boost when im straferunning under a correct angle next to a wall

what is that? is this just a quirk of dsda or is it a vanilla doom bug too?

[cosmic pagoda]

wallrunning, its a thing and its used in speedrunning

its in the original doom too, you need a wall thats the right orientation though

oh ffs

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Wallrunning

[lone salmon]

Are there different versions of Project Brutality? Because I installed Project Brutality for DOOM I and the custom UI isn't showing up and I'm trying to figure out if it's because of the mod or if it's because of settings

[stiff merlin]

whats your question friend

best is subjective, what are you looking for specifically

the most like original, the smoothest and most modern?

multiplayer?

one i know that is specifically for multiplayer is zandronum

i think so

atleast it helps alot

i couldnt play without doomseeker myself

again, you need to specify what you are looking for

most modern, or most vanilla

or somewhere in between?

dsda

i myself run dsda

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DSDA-Doom

its somewhere in there

this is just the wiki site

what does that mean

are you trying to ask whether or not you can look up or down?

you can change that in the options

pretty sure it has that, gzdoom has jumping and vertical aim from the start

if you dont plan on playing doom like the original, i would suggest you play gzdoom

hey coding friends, how quickly do you reckon you could speedrun a simple resprite for a weapon mod?

[lone salmon]

I'm on episode one map five. Where do I go to get CAM?

[vale gyro]

CAM?

[lone salmon]

The computer area map

[vale gyro]

I’ll check in a second

[lone salmon]

Thanks yo

[vale gyro]

It should be in the same area as the chaingun

The two pillars

[stiff merlin]

just beat doom 2

on uv, am i gamer now?

[gusty bobcat]

Not yet, do plutonia pistol start uv then you are gamer

[final forge]

https://youtu.be/OxgkMbAXBmY?si=lDGZCktIaPZfmbyM

[stiff merlin]

how are all the guns in brutal doom acquired? like the auto shotgun?

[vestal sable]

near backpacks

and sometimes off the new enemies

[vast reef]

idkfa

[versed jewel]

Y'all, I've played the newer Doom games, and hardly the older ones, do y'all recommend I play them?

[vale gyro]

yes.

[upper crypt]

YES

[worldly furnace]

HELL yeah (pun intended)

[limber holly]

holy fuck... DOOM 1993 Nightmare is an unbalanced fuckfest

still feels pretty good tho. Playing on Series S

[copper geyser]

I'm trying out Sigil 1 for the first time today. Any tips?

[stiff merlin]

Its so much better than the new ones

[vast reef]

depends

[stiff merlin]

I suppose its subjective

Havent played 2016, eternal is good but originals are mwah

[storm tapir]

Well it is a joke difficulty, embrace the meme

[cosmic pagoda]

dont pop it on UV first time around

[vast reef]

pop it on UV first time around

bleed

[limber holly]

I can't, I'm taking it too seriously lol

[storm tapir]

The punishment continues until morale improves

[limber holly]

Well actually, I'm not getting frustrated, but from a gameplay standpoint, I am try-harding. That's how I have fun.

[gusty bobcat]

Not if you are playing Not Even Remotely Fair, then it works lol

[random bone]

i just wanna know if i get the bethesda rerelease of doom do i also get the DOS version of it

[finite crag]

Yes

[smoky gorge]

Does anybody have an image of a Lost Soul from DOOM II facing forward with no background? I'm trying to make a desktop shortcut for DOOM II on a source port I have.

[finite crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1214741799026036827/1219856652593791128/image.png?ex=660cd309&is=65fa5e09&hm=506b3caf72a4922a49bf0b4f001de80138b449417fe0820ad3843d9b087dea21&

[smoky gorge]

Ah, thanks.

Anybody got one for the Cacodemon, too?

[cosmic pagoda]

[remote cedar]

Very handy emotes I've gotta say

[cosmic pagoda]

doom95 had the cacodemon as icon as well

[cosmic pagoda]

the curse of regular doom play means I get better at it and despite having rebalanced the first map(the most "done" of it) of my pet wad project(where I aim to compose the whole music, do around 10 maps and also most of the textures) recently, it now feels too easy again

especially the easy and medium skills

think I'm gonna leave easy as it is, make hmp a bit harder and UV a bit more unfair

altho its 123 enemies just for the first map

[gusty bobcat]

Maybe Im out of line, but that's sounds good, you get better as player, giving you a deeper understanding of doom game design, allowing you to make a better wad, but again i might be wrong

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah thats true

just annoying to redo it all the time

I build it in cycles, get the urge to work on it every half a year or so 😛

[gusty bobcat]

Lol, i feel ya, wasted work is extremely demotivating

[stiff merlin]

played map31, fun to play at the start for the first, what, 2 minutes maybe?

after a couple of rooms it got boring and the sound the nazi soldiers make are ehhhh

[stiff merlin]

hey guys, what transfer speed would a pendrive need for it to run doom well?

[cosmic pagoda]

wdym

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean that map only makes sense if you played wolf3d

[stiff merlin]

i mean i know its a refference its just that even after playing wolf3d its boring

[cosmic pagoda]

thats a weird question, the speed wont matter even if you wanna play from it, it will fit in ram

[cosmic pagoda]

well true, most of TNT is just that really

[stiff merlin]

oh really? awesome then, i always heard that if the speed is low it will be choppy and such

gonna set it all up onto my 4gb pendrive

[void hemlock]

Oh yeah what about Betray

Not TNT but similar thing

[cosmic pagoda]

idk why they even threw that in

but in general, most of doom 2 is kinda boring imo, but still better than most of tnt

you could almost compile a nice 32 map megawad from TNT and doom2 using the good maps however

all the casali maps, some early maps and a couple more from tnt

[stiff merlin]

The fuck is the guy at the bottom on about

Wait, sorry cant post picture

[cosmic pagoda]

huh

[cosmic pagoda]

you can in #screenshots

[stiff merlin]

Sent, context not important

[cosmic pagoda]

no idea

also >dlc

[gusty bobcat]

Hallucinations are crazy

Is this comenter hallucinating about Thy Flesh Consumed and Sigil being the supposed "DLC"?

[stiff merlin]

I think they just are a gen z that doesnt know correct terminology

Friendly fire, but true

[vale gyro]

That image made my brain hurt and I have no clue why

[void hemlock]

Thy Flesh Consumed was basically "DLC" from back then, but it's compiled together nowadays so it isn't anymore

Technically Sigil 1 and 2 is free DLC, but not true canon

[stiff merlin]

more like a mod, personally

[void hemlock]

well yeah

[gusty bobcat]

Well, yes, i mentioned it as a possibility of the commenter's own mind, maybe he only watched civvie's videos on doom 1 and got the wrong idea, just theorizing is all

[void hemlock]

but im just saying

[gusty bobcat]

Even tho, yeah, he is wrong about that idea

[void hemlock]

maybe it was just simple misremembering

[gusty bobcat]

Ye, what I said

[cosmic pagoda]

if anyone wants to give a test to the short map01, its available in #classic-doom-maps-mods

[stiff merlin]

for some reason i cant save my config to my pendrive

[vale gyro]

What port?

[stiff merlin]

gzdoom specifically for now

[vale gyro]

There should be a command line parameter that can specify a config file

[stiff merlin]

i mean yeah, that works but it says something akin to access denied

[vale gyro]

Strange

[stiff merlin]

thats the problem, im gonna try running cmd as administrator and maybe that will work?

[vale gyro]

What’s the actual error first of all

[stiff merlin]

its in polish but i can translate it

give me a sec

ran it as admin, but it didnt even show an error message and did not work

whoops, there was a typo

yeah it literally says:
The config file [directory path] could not be written:
(translated from polish) Access denied

@vale gyro

[vale gyro]

Check if the config is set to read-only

If it is, turn it off

[stiff merlin]

not checked

[vale gyro]

Gimme a second

Gotta run tests on it

OS?

[stiff merlin]

sure, np

windows 10 pro, and im doing it on a pendrive

[vale gyro]

K, I just gotta copy my config to my stuff then

Just tested it with gzdoom -config gzdoom.ini making sure my local config was not being used

No errors reported in terminal

[stiff merlin]

okay, ill try dropping it into local config

[vale gyro]

I’ll be honest

I got no clue why your stuff is not working

[stiff merlin]

still didnt use old config

i mean, still uses the old config instead of the new one, i need the config to be placed in the pendrive so it doesnt appear on other disks

[vale gyro]

What I meant by “local config” was the .ini located in /Documents/My Games/GZDoom/

[stiff merlin]

ah that one

i mean yeah when i do that no problems pop up

[vale gyro]

The config file I used was the one I had put into my personal thumb drive

Maybe the drive it’s self is read only?

That error you sent me indicates that files can’t be written to something

[stiff merlin]

nah, dont think so

i mean i could place stuff on the drive

[vale gyro]

So the read only is off

Crap, still no lead

[stiff merlin]

hmmm

quite a trouble, i wonder if all sourceports will have a problem like this

[vale gyro]

Not really

[stiff merlin]

are you more familiar with dsda and chocolate?

[vale gyro]

Unless it’s a hardware problem

[vale gyro]

I’m familiar with Crispy

Which is based on Chocolate

I ran all of my doom stuff on my thumb drive until recently when I became concerned about write cycles being used up too much

Never had an issue

[stiff merlin]

whats write cycles?

anyway, i suppouse we can start with chocolate, can you guide me step by step?

[vale gyro]

Have fun with me trying to spend 20 minutes possibly dumbing down things because I speak in more technical terms half the time lol

Gimme a second to compile a list

[stiff merlin]

dont worry im not that stupid

i use computers since i was born

probably i could even manage myself

[vale gyro]

• Download or Compile Chocolate from the GitHub repository
• Unzip Chocolate, put that and all IWADs onto pen drive in wanted directory
• unless issued by parameter, Chocolate will use a config file in it’s CWD and will create the file on changing settings in chocolate-setup.exe

I have given instructions exactly like this to a friend before and it ended in a nearly 1 hour long hassle for me so please just tell me if you are confused by anything

[stiff merlin]

hmm, does the config use cfg?

[vale gyro]

iirc yeah

[stiff merlin]

or ini?

[vale gyro]

Yeah it’s .cfg

[stiff merlin]

okay, i see it, then in this case i think this actually is everything now, since i just copied the whole folder from my pc

[vale gyro]

Mind you if you wanna play more advanced maps, you’ll need something like Woof, PrBoom+, DSDA, etc.

[stiff merlin]

oh yeah, thats why i will set up dsda now

since choc was just for the simplest way

[vale gyro]

Ah

[stiff merlin]

oh awesome dsda also is setup in cwd

[vale gyro]

Most sourceports do

[stiff merlin]

welp, all done now, is there a command i can use to check and make sure its all correct?

[vale gyro]

GZDoom is the only one I’ve encountered that doesn’t do that

[vale gyro]

What do you mean by that?

Just asking for clarification

[stiff merlin]

gzdoom had a command whereisini

so basically just wanting to make sure 100% that they are using the correct directory

[vale gyro]

not aware of any such command in Crispy or Chocolate

best bet is to see if it'll save your settings

for DSDA that'll be done in-game

Chocolate has it's own setup executable

off-topic but it can actually edit the config for DOS release iirc

[stiff merlin]

hmmm

id have to get on another computer ehhh

[vale gyro]

why?

[stiff merlin]

and also that doesnt really show which one it uses

[vale gyro]

it only has one config

and that's the one in the folder the executables are in

[stiff merlin]

oh then its all done

in such a case, i will likely go test it out on another pc anyway

[vale gyro]

fair enough

[stiff merlin]

i wonder if this can be done in all steam games

i know certain ones leave the exe free to grab, without the need of steam

[vale gyro]

pretty much every sourceport does that

hell, even the Unity port if you bought Doom off of GOG

[stiff merlin]

i mean this was kinda a bit off topic, outside of doom you know

[vale gyro]

don't know how

[stiff merlin]

oh actually @vale gyro, can you give me tips on how to make a batchfile that takes me into already opening up a game?

[vale gyro]

so what do you exactly want?

[stiff merlin]

let me word it better, should i type the whole sentence into the txt file?

open up dsda with the correct wads in

[vale gyro]

basically, type in the command you want into notepad, save it into the directory of the exe as a .cmd or .bat file

[stiff merlin]

alrighty, should it include the entirety alongside the starting F: on the left, or just the command i type in after?

should it be done one line by one?

[vale gyro]

if you're specifying exact paths of everything including the exe, you do not need to put it into the same directory as the exe

[stiff merlin]

as in using cd and such

[vale gyro]

one line for each command

[stiff merlin]

wait so like basically
F:
cd (my directory)
final command

something like that?

[vale gyro]

changing directories shouldn't be needed if you're specifying paths in the parameter btw

[stiff merlin]

oh, then just drop the first step?

[vale gyro]

and second

[stiff merlin]

huh?

[vale gyro]

let me set up an example to the best of my ability

assuming the IWADS were in E: in their own folder and Woof was in E: in their own folder and we want to load DOOM2
E:/Woof/woof -iwad E:/IWADs/doom2.wad

[stiff merlin]

AHHH i get it

okay okay, thanks that works, thanks

i gotta learn how to make cool things with batchfiles and such

[vale gyro]

I've made a couple things with it

used to be my main "language" until I switched to Python.. and the Python to C#

but that's besides the point

[stiff merlin]

well, i dont plan on doing coding, but making my weird looking pendrive as weird as possible would be fun

[cosmic pagoda]

damn, I still havent learned any batch syntax lol, can write (ba)sh quite well though, working on windows without wsl aggravates me a lot lol

[vale gyro]

I've completely forgotten it

my main project was this operating enviroment or whatever

[cosmic pagoda]

fair

I mostly use bash for things such as generating code and build scripts

[vale gyro]

I've never really used it

had no reason to

actually, I did when I needed to make a command line utility for quicky mounting and ejecting drives

[cosmic pagoda]

this for instance traverses the /sql directory of each directory in Table, and generates a queries file so I can edit the queries in nice .sql files but then load em into a string[string] map before compiling, keeping em in ram

#!/usr/bin/env sh
cd internal/Table
for dir in $(ls -1 -d */ | tr -d '/')
do
    echo Generating queries for "$dir"
    echo "package $dir" > $dir/queries.go
    echo "var queries = map[string]string{" >> "$dir"/queries.go

    for file in $(ls -1 $dir/sql)
    do
        file=$(echo $file)
        contents=$(cat "$dir/sql/$file" | tr '\n' ' ' | tr -d '"' | tr -s ' ' )

        printf "    \"%s\" : \`%s\`, \n" "$file" "$contents"  >> "$dir"/queries.go
    done

    echo "}" >> "$dir"/queries.go
done

[vale gyro]

I think we should probably stop talking before we flood the chat with off-topic stuff lol

[cosmic pagoda]

fair enough

[vast reef]

man up and switch to c

[vast reef]

🔥

i need to learn make eventually LOL

[vale gyro]

nah I'm happy with C# and the .NET Framework thank you very much

[vast reef]

too high level

[vale gyro]

if I need low level (which I don't for my tasks) I can use a lower level language

that simple

[finite crag]

hi

[vale gyro]

doing this stuff as a hobby so I'd rather not pull my hair out more than I already do because I now gotta deal with possible memory leaks

[vast reef]

ok but: c is cooler

(tbh c# is fine lol)

(the only high-level languages i use are lisp and python)

(js if necessary)

[cosmic pagoda]

tbh, depends on what needs to be done, application and other factors determine the ideal language choice

[vast reef]

that was a joke

i am bad at implying jokes

[cosmic pagoda]

ie you gotta set your goals, does it need to be fast? does it need to be able to be set up quickly

[vast reef]

yeah

[cosmic pagoda]

oh, im usually good at sarcasm but sometimes my autism takes the wheel 😄

[vast reef]

to test out an algorithm really quickly i honestly just use js bc it's right there in the browser

[visual nova]

So u went from a snake to a musical note

[vast reef]

everything ends in crab

[that's a double joke and i love myself for that]

[finite crag]

hey im trying to play doom with the mario 64 decomp thing to play as sm64 mario in doom

and idk how to do it there are no tutorials

and im wondering if anyone can help

[vale gyro]

Do you have the base IWADs for Doom 1/2 and the WAD for the decomp at least?

Or are you running Freedoom?

[finite crag]

yeah and yeah

[vale gyro]

I’m not familiar with the decomp but I’ll assume you’ll need GZDoom

Stick the IWAD you need and the WAD into GZDoom’s directory

Either run this command in the terminal while loaded into the directory or use a batch file with gzdoom -file (name of decomp)

You can also drag the WAD onto GZDoom and select the required IWAD

No what, should’ve asked this from the beginning

Is the decomp a standard WAD (ie needing a normal source port) or is it a fork of a port?

Because I just looked up “SM64 Doom Decomp” and found a fork of GZDoom that replaces Doomguy with Mario

[finite crag]

yeah it completely replaces doom guy

[vale gyro]

Got it off of GitHub?

Mention anything about it being a fork?

[finite crag]

yep

dont think soo

[vale gyro]

Check it

[finite crag]

i got it to work once just by dragging it in with a sm64 file but idk where i got that one

[vale gyro]

You’ll need a ROM of SM64 (which is usually considered piracy and which that is something I and the server’s rules don’t condone with) and well, the Doom 1 or 2 IWAD

[finite crag]

oh

hold up the instrutions were hidden away in one of the folders

ill try that for a little bit then say if ive made progess

[glad hazel]

im about to cry from MtPain on fast monsters saveless

[cosmic pagoda]

if you import decompiled mario 64 into doom, you get doom eternal 💀

latter of which is just mario64 with guns in cringe lore

[vale gyro]

you don’t seem too fond of Eternal..

[lone salmon]

I condone piracy I just won't do it here 🗣

Because I only do it for Nintendo

[zenith berry]

The Golden Souls exists

[candid quail]

a secret is revealed

[wise osprey]

hey i just got doom

(1993)

and when i play all the enemies are already dead

did i do something wrong 😭

AND DOORS WONT OPEN

[vale gyro]

first of all, what platform

[wise osprey]

i got it on steam

[vale gyro]

opening doors would be spacebar or E (forgot what button the Unity port defaults to)

also the enemies aren’t dead, you’re just looking at map-placed corpses

[wise osprey]

hm OKAY

oh oh im stupid

[vale gyro]

no way to start with no monsters on Unity iirc

[wise osprey]

im sorry 😭

[vale gyro]

you’re fine

[wise osprey]

thank you

[coarse brook]

Hi

i need help with doom 1993/2019 edition

(steam edition)

How do I play the game with the original doom controls (the little arrows and shoot with ctrl) because no matter how hard I try to modify the controls I can't get it to be the same as the original game, since when moving to the sides the camera doesn't rotate.

[vale gyro]

use the orignal DOS version that comes with the Unity port

best bet is to also to use something like Chocolate Doom

[coarse brook]

I just really like how it looks and the performance improvements of 2019 doom, but I want to have the original controls is there any solution?

[vale gyro]

I could look at the Unity port and try

next best is Crispy Doom, though. It does have things like an uncapped framerate, widescreen, some other stuff

yet it can get you the controls you wish

only mentioned Chocolate as it comes with those controls out of the box iirc

[coarse brook]

isn't there a way to do it in an "official" way?

beacuse i paid for steam doom

[vale gyro]

really only thing you got is unoffical sourceports

unless I'm missing something with the Unity port

[coarse brook]

how do i play the unity port?

[vale gyro]

that's what you're playing

[coarse brook]

does it have the same improvements as steam doom?

[coarse brook]

what?

[coarse brook]

¿and what is this?

[vale gyro]

the Unity port is the port used for the rerelease of Doom 1 and 2 on all platforms

the Steam and GOG versions also come with the original executables plus DOSBOX

when you run Doom from Steam you should get a list of 3 options

select the one the classic controls

you'll be stuck at the orignal resolution, though

plus the orignal limits of the Doom engine

[coarse brook]

ok

what a pity that it is not possible as I wanted, haha

[vale gyro]

well if you want (some) of the improvements of the Unity port, a sourceport is a better option

mind you no other port has that addons menu as every port assumes you're grabbing everything from the idgames archive or from some other place

if you're happy with the original executables though, just use them

though if you ever wish to change the controls for it, though

either find the orignal setup executable or download Chocolate and use it's setup executable (as it somehow still works with the original executable's config file)

[autumn sandal]

Hello

I’m new I just joined

[blissful crystal]

Citadel sux. 🤣

[vast reef]

"official" is utter bullshit, the "unofficial" source ports are more accurate to the og game than the unity port

and way, way more feature-complete

you're missing out on a lot by limiting yourself to the unity port

the doom community's thrived with its fan-made ports and engines since the 90s and that's what essentially everything is built upon

[hexed escarp]

not counting gzdoom

[vast reef]

of course

but zdoom ports are a minority

[acoustic pewter]

Hey this is for doom 2 but how do I get the red key card

[finite crag]

Doesn't specify which level

[acoustic pewter]

2nd

[finite crag]

Pretty sure that's the one where you gotta sprint across that gap into the window

[acoustic pewter]

Ok

Thanks

[atomic dust]

gotta continue playing TNT at some point

I finished the first 15 maps and actually had fun, despite the over-reliance on the hitscanner zombies

seriously, Zombiemen and Shotgunners are everywhere

[finite crag]

I wanna download after doom mod but I get a rar data everytime and it doesnt work on gzdoom

anyone can help?

same with brutal doom somehow I only get rar datas and they dont work on gzdoom

[vale gyro]

You need to extract the RAR with either 7Zip or WinRAR

[azure sluice]

Are the city levels in doom 2 as bad as they say or is it exaggerated?

[finite crag]

thx I took the datas off my old pc on my new one lol

[finite crag]

They're pretty shit, but not unplayable. Just boring.

[finite crag]

I'm going through DooM II

Onto map 9, really hard but it has a banger soundtrack and is really fun

And that's a city level innit

[small summit]

They are very fucking hard

[urban trench]

Ancient Aliens Floating Arena 🙄

[raven pollen]

I just installed a bunch of mods for Doom RPG and it keeps launching on the wrong monitor. i had a similar issue with zandronum but I cant remember the console command to fix it. any help?

[small summit]

wait there's a doom rpg

[finite crag]

I'm playing through doom 2 on uv and it's really hard

Gotta beat chapter 4 on classic doom really but e4m5 has me screaming

[raven pollen]

its a compilation of mods all put together, it runs doom into a roguelike, i just cant figure out how to get it to display on the right monitor.

[haughty mortar]

is there a doom WAD where i can do parkour (like an obby)

like a bunch of obby levels

[finite crag]

Hi, I’m new I’ve only played DOOM 1993 and some of DOOM eternal just wanna chat about it

[haughty mortar]

welcome

[vale gyro]

just play Eternal at that point lmao
In all seriousness I’ll probably look around for one when I got spare time

or you could make your own maps as well if you’re that type of person

[finite crag]

Just wondering in everyone’s opinion what’s the most annoying enemy

[haughty mortar]

baron of hell (its also the scariest)

[vale gyro]

if you wanted to go that route, GZDoom is probably gonna be your best choice btw

[vale gyro]

chaingunners…

[haughty mortar]

normal people buy doom on steam to get the doom WAD

[finite crag]

For me it’s gonna be the mancubus or bruiser

[upper crypt]

Barons, without a rocket launcher or plasma they’re like walls

[haughty mortar]

i mean that yell scares me away

[finite crag]

Bruiser for doom 1993 and mancubus for eternal