classic-doom

[finite crag]

I just wanted to know if doom 3 was modable because i think it would be cool to remake doom 1 in that engine

Just for funsies

[cosmic pagoda]

would confuse both us here and people reading back here and people there too, makes no sense in swapping channels for a brief tangent imo

[finite crag]

I feel its weird doom 64 is separate from classic doom on this server

[cosmic pagoda]

its a completely different game tho

[finite crag]

True

But it has a lot in common with 1 and 2

But it was made by an different team

[cosmic pagoda]

what annoys me the most is mods applying modern rendering tech to og doom, the original had chunky textures and graphics, but it also had talented artists making it a whole artstyle, adding normalmapping and modern lighting to it makes it look like a poor modern game, dilutes the style

[finite crag]

Ohh yeah

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean it was fun going through it with rtx once

but like

those hd mods make it just plastic

or texture filtering, thats just blurry

[finite crag]

Idk why people think this makes an game better

[cosmic pagoda]

modern rendering tech requires levels and models and textures designed for that tech to look good

[finite crag]

True

[cosmic pagoda]

so you cant just pop doom into there and expect good results

[finite crag]

If not it looks weird

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah

also dont need modern graphics for things to look good, graphics tech ages, but artstyle is timeless

[finite crag]

Its kinda like uncanny valley if you think abt it

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah very well said

[finite crag]

I usualy play for the gameplay

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah me too

[finite crag]

Thats why i have 15 hours in doom XD

[cosmic pagoda]

its nice if the game looks good, but you dont need high budget and cutting edge tech for good looks

[finite crag]

Yeah

Im more into retro games because they are more pickup and play

[cosmic pagoda]

be careful, itll be a few hundred without noticing

[finite crag]

Yeah

[cosmic pagoda]

definitely, I often do a level or 2 of plutonia or something with my morning coffee before work

its like, I can start it with 2 clicks and it instantly starts up, play a level and be done

[finite crag]

Its weird, i just started playing doom this week

[cosmic pagoda]

no commitment needed, perfect for short times

[finite crag]

I cant belive i slept on such a masterpiece

[cosmic pagoda]

I got dsda launcher on taskbar, usually launch whatever wad I was in progress of, hit f9 for quickload and play a map or so

yeah truly is, also the grandfather of so many things

including speedrunning

[finite crag]

And aged suprisingly well

[cosmic pagoda]

I have had the privilege of growing up with doom, but nice to see people who havent pick it up

the community keeps it alive

[finite crag]

True

Indeed

I starded playing with doom 64

But the original grabbed me

[cosmic pagoda]

I havent yet played 64, should try it now that theres a pc port

[finite crag]

The pc is the best one

Its on steam, epic games, and xbox

And its dirt cheap, even out of sale

I think i became an sponsor XD

[jovial wing]

ever?

like you just bought it last week?

[finite crag]

I bough doom 1 this week

I had doom 64 since october

[jovial wing]

why'd you start with 64?

[finite crag]

Ambience

[jovial wing]

if you got doom you could prob download some mods for the ambience

[finite crag]

True

[jovial wing]

if you get doom 2 make sure to try out doom 64 for doom 2

see how faithful it is level wise

[finite crag]

Cool

[jovial wing]

sprites wise deff not

[finite crag]

XD

I really hope doom 2 vannila campain is as good as doom 1

[jovial wing]

oh boi

you're in for a ride

[finite crag]

XD

[jovial wing]

(shudders in the chasm)

[finite crag]

My only experience with doom 2 is the gba port

[jovial wing]

you know anything about the doom 2 levels?

[finite crag]

That they are a mixed bag

Some great some bad

[jovial wing]

yeah

the chasm

[finite crag]

And they are realy big compared to 1

[jovial wing]

you should try brutal doom

[finite crag]

Yeah

Once i finish episode 4 im gonna play all the popular mods

[quiet hornet]

h

[vast reef]

bd is to doom mods like slipknot is to metal

[jovial wing]

wym

[finite patio]

Hello

[cosmic pagoda]

well put

[finite patio]

Hello

[cosmic pagoda]

besides mods are overrated, I mean its fun to try out, but theres so much quality wad content out there, there is no need for any mods

besides playing stuff without mods on a proper compatability sourceport makes your achievements feel better

like, even tho I aint submitting my runs, since they arent good times, to dsda, but knowing that they could be and would be accepted makes completing a map on NM100S for example feel like a much bigger achievement

ie you need skills that matter in the grand scale to get that

[cosmic pagoda]

hi

[finite patio]

Hello I'm trying to get doom to work

[vast reef]

i disagree with "mods are overrated" bc i can basically create my own new custom game without having to program anything

[vast reef]

entry-level and overrated

[cosmic pagoda]

you can, but why would you want to, unless you are distributing it in which case coding stuff goes a long way

[vast reef]

wdym "why would you want to"

it's fun to make your dream game with the only requirements being downloading some stuff and spending a few minutes configuring things

doom is also amazing for modding because of how simplistic it is, lets you add on so much

[cosmic pagoda]

well its not really a game unless you create the wad and stuff too, its just your weird way to play another game then

[vast reef]

...have you heard of a tc?

[cosmic pagoda]

well yes

are you making total conversions in a few minutes?

[vast reef]

essentially yes

[cosmic pagoda]

usually tcs start with the actual content, mods just help with features that a pwad cant do

[vast reef]

hell crusher + stardate + that cyber monster mod, i forgot what it was called

[vast reef]

bam, new sci-fi fps

completely new weapons, enemies, and levels

that's more of a new game than doom 2 is

[cosmic pagoda]

well yeah but its just a weird way to play the ribbiks wad

[vast reef]

not to mention there are mods for changing movement physics and monster ai

[cosmic pagoda]

not creating anew game

[vast reef]

yeah but what if i make a wad and bundle it with mods made by modders who agreed to it?

[cosmic pagoda]

then it is yeah

[cosmic pagoda]

as I said

[vast reef]

so it's only a new game if i make the wad

i get ur logic but agree to disagree

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean its whatever the wad you play is with mods, unless you also create the content

I view game as a whole

[vast reef]

what's your definition of total conversion btw

[cosmic pagoda]

ashes is a new game by my definition

for example

[vast reef]

mine is:
-all-new weapons
-all-new enemies
-all-new levels

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah exactly

but since by your example, stardate, its already content for doom as per the author

so its gonna be doom with mods

[vast reef]

yeah, but it fulfills the requirements, no?

it's just not as cohesive as a proper TC

[cosmic pagoda]

but imo the content should be failored to your mods and stuff for it to be a new thing

otherwise the balance and all that are gonna get skewed

[vast reef]

yeah, like i said, not as cohesive as a proper TC

but like, it's really fun 🤷

like

"yeah this wad is fun, what if i play it with a grappling hook"

[vast reef]

replying to this this time

[vast reef]

there's so much "what if i play it with x" to explore

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah as I stated, its fun to try out for a change, but trying out a new cohesive pack of content will trump it most of the times, for that well crafted experience

[vast reef]

that's fair

i get ur point well 👍

[cosmic pagoda]

like the not even a week old eviternity II, what an experience that was, so much new content, mindblowing visuals in map design, beautiful music design

yeah I get yours too, but still good to have a discussion

[vast reef]

thas why i only play a wad with mods after beating it vanilla

[vast reef]

yup

[cosmic pagoda]

oh which reminds me, I need to replay first chapter, I missed the secret level there, didnt think to look for em that early

[finite patio]

Hello

https://github.com/termux/termux-x11

Look in screenshots

[cosmic pagoda]

also btw, this is an excellent opportunity to get inspired to start learning to code 🙂

setting a goal like "I wanna make a mod" is a great way to learn a new skill

[cosmic pagoda]

there arent any?

[finite patio]

Just DM me

[cosmic pagoda]

oh but thats you trying to build a terminal emulator, whats it got to do with doom

[finite patio]

No

[cosmic pagoda]

wait you are trying to compile ultimatedoombuilder on a .. phone?

[finite patio]

Just DM me

[finite patio]

Dm me

[cosmic pagoda]

looks like you are missing some critical libraries, see what lib comes with shm.h

looks like its libc

[vast reef]

check my profile

ive been programming for 3 years 👍

ive already made games, albeit 2d

[cosmic pagoda]

oh nice good job

keep at it

[vast reef]

doom mods r what inspired me to make my own fps game lol

i'm working with the quake engine rn

[terse hedge]

Here's a random question I thought I would ask here. In your all opinion, what is the best weapon to deal with lost souls?

[cosmic pagoda]

SSG

or chaingun when far

[terse hedge]

Even taking berserk punch into account?

[cosmic pagoda]

that only works well in tighter corridors, they otherwise are hard to hit

theres also the "getting most of them to eat eachother up while infighting" and "preventing too much of em spawning in the first place", but they are not always applicable

hate when a pain elemental decides to prank you and get hit by some stray shot by a monster afar and starts infighting it for a while so you wont notice until its spawned 20 million souls

[vast reef]

parroting mr. murk, ssg or chaingun

in some niche situations, berserk fist or chainsaw

[late venture]

plutonia map05 is soooooo short

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah its perfect length

love that about plutonia, short and sweet

[remote cedar]

I personally wouldn't call Plutonia short but maybe it's because I don't know any better

[lone dome]

Is there an official age rating for classic doom on PC?

[cosmic pagoda]

it predates age ratings

but maybe on modern distributions

probably rated quite high, seeing it was one of the reasons for these in the first place

although mortal kombat I think was the final straw

[median cloud]

Is map 32 of eviternity 2 a super secret map or just e2's secret map?

[cosmic pagoda]

theres 6 secret maps

one for each episode

[median cloud]

ok thought so as well

[cosmic pagoda]

32 is episode 2 secret map

yeah I missed 31 on my first one since didnt expect one to be so early

loved map32 btw

[median cloud]

Ive finished 31 a day ago or so

[cosmic pagoda]

that finale(I wont spoil but its quite something)

[median cloud]

so on to I guess map 04 now

[cosmic pagoda]

map 36 is a true masterpiece btw, jaw dropping architecture and music and scale

[median cloud]

damn did you already finished the entire wad?

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah except for map30

but hurt me plenty and savescumming

had no obligations this week

[night echo]

honestly even the effective weapons against them take slightly too long to kill

i feel like they were way easier to kill in doom 1

[azure nimbus]

their stats are identical. The only difference is that in in -complevel 2 (what is used usually for vanilla doom2), they won't ever bounce. On other used comp levels, including vanilla doom1, they bounce off floors. In mbf21, they bounce off ceilings

[cosmic pagoda]

love the eviternity lost souls with half hp

lost souls in doom 1 are usually way more annoying though, no pain elementals means, they are usually placed in abundance

with pain elementals theres usually less manually placed ones

so you can avoid a lot of them by turning the faucet off as soon as you see it

[azure nimbus]

I remember them being way worse in d2 when I did nightmare100s

[cosmic pagoda]

oh fair enough, I havent done too much of that, think I only got e1m1 e1m2 and e3m1 and doom 2 map01 completed in nm100s so far so cant comment

should get back to doing it, was fun

but I ended up getting too frustrated with last moment deaths in e3m2 after which I took a few months pause from doom

[azure nimbus]

I did nightmare before I knew how to do demos so the footage is crappy. Maybe I'll revisit one day

[cosmic pagoda]

I didnt go for speed, but just for "completion"

that said I got my e3m1 on crappy vid, because I hit record on obs to show my mate how frickin hard it is, turns out that time I made it

should also do with demos tbh, looking at that vid, I could probably do a lot better now that I have been back to regularish dooming, playing at least a couple sessions a month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSFwmy1YHPM

crappy vid of my attempt, was just meant to show how difficult nm makes things

ended up completing it

im a much better shot now, these missed shots bug me in that run

[azure nimbus]

My guess is e3m1 only exists to support e3m9

[cosmic pagoda]

are there significant differences in complevel 0/1/2 and 3 btw?

I run with 3, but others seem like valid options for doom 1 as wll

haha gotta get used to nm

e1m1 is murdering me

I think I should try the outside route again

https://i.imgur.com/dtkaBAH.png

sigh, attempt number 7

[atomic violet]

Anyone want to help for doom 2 from ps4.

[cosmic pagoda]

https://i.imgur.com/VRCUu5L.png

aww yisss

[late venture]

Ah

So sad I cant post a picture here

[cosmic pagoda]

you have to host it elsewhere on a site whose urls embed

and post url

[random sedge]

use imgur

[dry niche]

is there any way sourceport that allows local splitscreen multiplayer?

like the unity sourceport for example

[calm cradle]

all of them

[dry niche]

i meant splitscreen sorry

my bad

[cosmic pagoda]

thanks for inspiring me to do nm once again, IIRC you inspired me last time too

took demo this time too

[limpid zinc]

Not that I know of, but you can run multiple instances and connect them all to a single locally hosted server to get them in the same game. The tricky part would be getting them to all use different input methods.

[azure nimbus]

there's some super esoteric infighting stuff. on cl0 or 1, maybe both, enemies can in-fight themselves with barrels and pinkies have hitscan melee. Decino did a video on 'em. 0 and 1 are super rare and honestly more of a history thing. It's 2 for doom2 vanilla. 3 for doom1 vanilla, 9 for boom, 11 for mbf, 21 for mbf21 and you'll never use the others unless it's some really niche reason like a year-one boom wad

[cosmic pagoda]

oh cheers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479488644990894094/1185273131254956073/E1M1-NM100S-1m22s-med.mp4?ex=658f029f&is=657c8d9f&hm=fe67cdb7143fb682d592fdc1cc91a519d45e5bf30693c68fcd17868f7c447dac&

now to improve time

also to figure out why the hell doesnt the dump frames from demo on dsda doom work

it makes empty files for some reason

[azure nimbus]

is this 4:3 footage

[azure nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFZFNE0a82w you might be interested in this

[cosmic pagoda]

uhh idk, I finally ended up just capturing screen with shadowplay, after making it run in fullscreen, err could be, ill play around with settings more tho

[cosmic pagoda]

ohh thanks

aha found my problem

I_CaptureFinish: opening pipe "ffmpeg -i temp_v.nut -i temp_a.nut -c copy -y F:/VIDOUT/test.mp4"```

it expects ffmpeg, which I dont have, ill get it

[hybrid scarab]

Hey guys, no one asked, but I'm a native Brazilian Portuguese teacher, I teach Engish, Spanish and Portuguese. Teaching and playing Doom kept me sober for the last 2 years. If you know anyone, It's super cheap

[steel lion]

guys why can't i send pics?

i was playing e1m1 on gzdoom and a rhombus with a exclamation mark appeared somewhere for some reason

[cosmic pagoda]

map marker probably

you can set them manually and they look like that most likely

[steel lion]

What are they for? Bc the wad wasn't modified

Oh wait,like automap markers

[cosmic pagoda]

yea

[finite crag]

I need wads with big arenas

[cosmic pagoda]

sunlust

[stark acorn]

nuts :)

[cosmic pagoda]

or nuts yea

[finite crag]

Nuts is

Is this cursed map with 949291681929 enemies?

Also I googled sunlust

Yeah I think I need something less overloaded

Is there core nest map?

For example

[cosmic pagoda]

a what

[trail raft]

Nuh uh, you need my slowly dying dell laritude 3120

Runs any doom game

If I get it on my external drive

[finite crag]

I just want some doom eternal experience on doom 2 with eoa

[trail raft]

Then just play doom eternal with low graphics

[finite crag]

Here is a big problem

I dont have a pc

[trail raft]

Then just play doom eternal

[finite crag]

Well I have, but it is hp laptop without videocard

So I play deltatouch

[trail raft]

Or get a really crappy monitor or tv and bam

You'd have doom eternal but crappy graphics

[cosmic pagoda]

doom eternal is more akin to mario 64 than classic doom

so not that compatible gameplay wise

https://youtu.be/iLH2rfl7d1A

also I think I FINALLY got the settings I like for rendering demos dialed in

1440p, 4:3 and all the dsda internal settings

[cosmic pagoda]

also proper render of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h_KjnSyA9s

[eager solstice]

just did e3m1 in 1:17 just to spite you lol

[cosmic pagoda]

damn

gj

[hard wolf]

I just watched Bill Thorpe's cardboard Doom film on YouTube, I might not be able to share it here, but it's definitely worth a watch if you get chance. https://youtu.be/RFjBmN8Dgqw?si=ijI4hu9oEJHrPU-a

[pale finch]

speaking of, ya'll gonna hate me for this but i actually liked annihilation more than the 2005 movie

(trash vs garbage)

[cosmic pagoda]

e1m2 got on third try, 😛

3:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsiDRBF9DHs

ok enough doom for the day

[finite crag]

I BEAT E4M2!!!!

[jovial wing]

unholy hell

[cosmic pagoda]

gj

[jovial wing]

fr

[finite crag]

Only 6 more maps to go

[cosmic pagoda]

gaaaah, now I hate e3m2 and lost souls even more

e3m2 is such rng

[jovial wing]

hand

[cosmic pagoda]

60% of the tries some of the pinkies or the shotgunner at the start blocks you

and if you manage to get the chaingun secret, the plasma and the blue key, youll probably get mauled in that zigzag lost soul finger

just did like 20 attempts

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479488644990894094/1185361282635935856/REEEEEEE.mp4?ex=658f54b8&is=657cdfb8&hm=ab6a4073e34aae6376c9005366c99176d2700310a324b98ca3b33105572d4196&

😢

if I cant get past him, its a restart

maybe I need a better route

I did green armor - plasma - chaingun - blue key - blue armor if no monsters in the way - last secret -end or planned to so far

but furthest I get is last secret

[finite crag]

Guys

Just finished thy flesh consumed without save scumming

[cosmic pagoda]

gj

[vale gyro]

nice

[cosmic pagoda]

@azure nimbus whats your route for e3m2 for NM100S?

hmm peter on his guest wid on decinos channel goes straight for the blue armor

[cosmic pagoda]

ha got a 1:06 on this

[azure nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqVDpzQK3TU&list=PL6z3JwchtJUHVRieo2R4fI3rv9vNzKpu-&index=3

[worldly furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/duuum-aprov-doom-approve-okay-meme-gif-16687031

[finite crag]

Doom has consumed my life

[proud pilot]

okay gang bit of an odd ask but are there any epileptic or otherwise photosensitive people here who play classic, especially on gzdoom? i’ve been struggling with photosensitivity that’s slowly been getting worse for a bit and it is now bad enough that i can’t play without feeling sick. i’ve turned off the pickup and blood flashes but not sure what to do about the invulnerability effect fading for example

[azure nimbus]

these are things you could change. with some copy paste and a patch. I'll ask around

[cosmic pagoda]

oh thanks, nice to see you also try different approaches, not only the winning route

[azure nimbus]

I'll send you a pwad to play alongside other stuff to remove that effect

[proud pilot]

that would be really helpful, thank you so much

[jovial wing]

same

also really stupid question

does anyone know how to straight up disable the invuln colormap and replace it with something like the infrared goggles?

[azure nimbus]

goggles change brightness not pallette

but you could fake the effect

[jovial wing]

so is it possible?

if so how do you do it?

[cosmic pagoda]

you can put a palette in the pwad

[sleek escarp]

What's the difference between zdoom and gzdoom

[vast reef]

gzdoom has more features

[jovial wing]

that's an understatement

[vast reef]

[minor basin]

Almost finished No Rest For The Living in VR

I’m finally on Map 8

[zenith berry]

you should release it to the public

[finite patio]

Hello

[cosmic pagoda]

40 attempts down the line and still need more practise for the e3m2 😄

[cosmic pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-Yj12SNgE
improved my time on e1m2 tho, even tho im not doing it for speedrunning purposes, will still try to improve times if I can

[sleek escarp]

Is zdoom more faithful to og doom?

[vast reef]

not in a way that matters

if you want faithfulness, use prboom or crispy doom

if you want mods, use gzdoom

[sleek escarp]

What about dsda doom

[vast reef]

or dsda doom yeah

[jovial wing]

or straight up chocolate doom screw it

me personally that amount of faithfulness is overdosing

[vast reef]

lmao no

raw DOS is overdosing imo

[jovial wing]

shard i forgot

shudders in vertical mouse movement

[vast reef]

yus

zero master uses vmm 💀

but he's excused because he's zero master

[jovial wing]

frfr

what the heck is this?

that is so cursed

[minor basin]

I’m finally getting around to DOOM SIGIL and it’s such torment!!!

I’m only on map 2

[urban trench]

It's easy compared to SIGIL II 😆

[azure nimbus]

dsda is 100 % faithful to the physics on CL2 and looks indistinguishable even on OpenGL mode to the original short of the scan lines and higher resoluton (and widescreen). But if you insist, you can lower the res.

[unreal gulch]

don’t you need it for some glides

[void hemlock]

tbh to me it's less painful than E4 for it being E5

[loud ether]

Hi

[eager solstice]

sigil 2 is disigned like garbage compared to the first tbh

[cold nimbus]

going to guess 100 percenter?

[night echo]

i thought that emoji was weird too. never seen a green key in doom

[lucid trellis]

hi

[pale finch]

do we have a doom 0.1 version?

[void hemlock]

not public as for what we know

[pale finch]

what could it have contained?

[hard wolf]

I did prefer the design of the first as well personally. It was very unique and different from anything else, but Sigil 2 looks like any other mod, it's just that it was built by JR that it's become popular.

[worldly furnace]

hello

[vast reef]

it makes it more precise but idt you need it

[remote cedar]

the earliest Doom 1993 prototypes have been documented on a bunch of pages / by a bunch of YouTubers already, I suggest checking out The Cutting Room Floor for more info

[azure nimbus]

or doomkid's videos on beta doom

[hard wolf]

Just be careful falling into the lava. Some pits have a way out and others bloody well don't.

And some of them, you can get out of them once, but then you can't get out a second time.

[slender sentinel]

Not 100% sure if this is the place to ask...but what would be the best source port for massive maps like slaughterfest maps with LOADS of monsters?

I've tried Gzdoom, and anything over...10-15k monsters in a room drops me down to sub 10 fps.

There was one map I tried with around 40k in a room, that dropped me down to about .5 fps.

[jovial wing]

maybe try dsda

I can't guarantee tho

[vast reef]

crispy doom

dsda doom

stop using gzdoom for slaughter maps dear god

[slender sentinel]

This is the first slaughter map I've come across where I'm not getting 200-400 fps consistently on gzdoom. I know next to nothing about this shit lol

[pale finch]

gzdoom is unoptimized as shit

if zandro adds zscript gz's done for

[halcyon willow]

no, people make unoptimised shit and try to run it on gzdoom

gzdoom runs rings around zandro in terms of performance

[halcyon willow]

gzdoom is the port gazebo tests sunder in

[vast reef]

😨

[halcyon willow]

i know, i was surprised too lol

he gets it tested in dsda/prboom. but for his own testing he uses gzdoom

[halcyon willow]

this is because gzdoom doesn't use reject tables. the only reason things like prboom can handle 15k+ enemies is because of the reject table (essentially telling the engine to ignore these elements)

there's an 80k monter map and the only reason it runs in any port is because of a highly customise reject table. like manually crafted

sunder actually uses that as well for map ... 15?

[vast reef]

ooh, that sounds really interesting

[halcyon willow]

cryogenesis is the name i think

it's a noreason map

he makes ... niche slaughter lol

[vast reef]

is the mapper the one who creates the reject table?

[halcyon willow]

one of the best players of doom going and his work matches that. so his maps are balls hard

[vast reef]

cosmogenesis, i played it for a bit and gave up 🫠

[halcyon willow]

essentially. the cases i'm refering to ribbiks helped out and made the reject table (he's an expert in that)

ah yes

cryogenesis is a bemused mapset

(also a crazy person)

[vast reef]

i should get better at slaughter maps tbh

[halcyon willow]

yeah i like playing 4-5k monster maps. 80k is a bit much lol

there's some good entry level stuff

rush, new gothic movement,

[vast reef]

i was playing through rush last time

[halcyon willow]

map 23 on for scythe 2

speed of doom

[vast reef]

thanx

[halcyon willow]

np

speed of doom is probably my all time favourite wad

[vast reef]

didn't mucus flow create an entire new style of map

[halcyon willow]

ramps up nicely. has some epic slaughter moments. but it's never that hard (unlike something like sunder) and it's not super grindy

mucus flow is CC4

community chest 4

[vast reef]

oh

[halcyon willow]

and yes, it is unique

[vast reef]

whattt, could've sworn it was a sod map

[halcyon willow]

not what i'd call ..... fun. but iconic

[vast reef]

the mandela effect is funny

[halcyon willow]

lol yes

[pale finch]

i really don't know with many people getting 40 fps unmodded

[vast reef]

shit config 🤷

[halcyon willow]

you haven't played one of my maps then lol

[pale finch]

the chicken man outsmarted romero even

[vast reef]

i got like 20 fps back then

just messed with a few settings and bam constant 60

[halcyon willow]

when you make maps with 130k lines

[pale finch]

the option search is really useful tho

[halcyon willow]

frame rate will not be happy

[pale finch]

hell i can't even fix the fact i'm locked to 320x200

[vast reef]

just use vulkan or gles

[halcyon willow]

vulkan is better on newer cards

although i've discovered it can cause crashes

[pale finch]

like even if i change my res later

the sprite elements register as 4:3

[halcyon willow]

that's a bug with the new config locations

delete your ini files

gzdoom has created a standardised location for the ini as of .... 4.10? but if you've got old ones floating around it can fuck shit up

[pale finch]

where are they located

[halcyon willow]

it's really annoying

C:\Users\yourPC\Documents\My Games\GZDoom

is the default location

[median cloud]

Does Eviternity 2 have these gauntlet maps of an hour like eviternity map 19

[lucid trellis]

hey hey hey gang

[autumn mauve]

Yo why did no one tell me that Doom had mods already installed on ps5?! Can't wait to try out sigil and plutonia

[finite crag]

Quelqu'un parle le français

[hard wolf]

No

[cosmic pagoda]

from the official site :

Eviternity II is a sequel not only in name, but difficulty and scale too! But don’t let that scare you, Eviternity II’s difficulty settings have been fully implemented to allow for players of all skill levels to enjoy. Consider lower difficulties if a chapter becomes too hard to beat.

so yes

[minor basin]

One question I have about SIGIL so far is where the hell are the medkits???

[vale gyro]

iirc there is a low amount of healing in the maps

[minor basin]

All I found so far was a soulsphere

[hard wolf]

Whose Soulsphere?

You mean like the blue ones, Megasphere or whatever it's called?

In fact, I'm pretty sure I remember it being called Supercharge. Go figure, I think I get a lot of Mandela Effect when it comes to gaming.

[minor basin]

Yeah

[stuck shuttle]

The supercharge powerup (called soul sphere in the manuals

[hard wolf]

I mean I'm guessing that Romero intended that you do what speedrunners do, hack away at it so many times, dying whenever you die, and slowly commit to memory the exact placement and movements of the enemies to the point at which you can literally glide through the level without being touched.

[stuck shuttle]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Supercharge

[hard wolf]

Aha

[minor basin]

I would like to believe that soulspheres are close to the same thing as life spheres from Eternal

[loud ether]

[minor basin]

No Revenant Sticker???

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[hard wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-external-doomguy-doom-slayer-raised-eyebrown-gif-24765324

[slender sentinel]

So, after checking out Prboom+, it seems it doesn't support PK3 files?

Is there any source port out that can also load PK3 files next to wads and can support massive maps with lots of enemies?

[finite crag]

Gz doom I think

I don't know a lot about source ports though, I play on it a lot, it can load pk3s and wads at the same time if that's what you are talking about

[pale finch]

doom retro

i think

[minor basin]

GZ DOOM should work

[minor basin]

No Med Kits??? (DOOM SIGIL)

[hard wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/jumpforce-gif-20962148

[finite crag]

XD

Me getting hit from every hitscaner at the room:

Took me a while to beat sigil

About a year I think

[hard wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-the-matrix-swerve-lunge-dive-gif-22197111

[minor basin]

[hard wolf]

I think it's basically supposed to be played like how a speed runner would, which is simply to play it to death to the extent that you know it like the back of your balls and you simply walk through it.

[jovial wing]

oui

[jovial wing]

usually the source ports that support pk3s are the zdoom forks

so gzdoom, lzdoom, qzdoom etc

[slender sentinel]

Problem with Gzdoom is if I load a map that has 3-4k enemies all active, I get half a frame per second. While other maps I've loaded with 60-70k enemies, I can run just fine. For slaughter maps it's hit or miss.

Guess I either get playability or I get low fps and pk3 support. Seems there's no middle ground source port I've found yet.

Even with as beefy of a pc as mine, I think it just boils down to the way the source port handles things.

[minor basin]

Ooohhh, interesting. I never thought about that before

[minor basin]

Only if they all worked together

[slender sentinel]

Well, maybe someone has a solution.

Sometimes I just wanna go in and mow down demons. It's therapeutic, so I use a pk3 that makes my chain gun shoot a shit ton of bullets in a big circle on screen. So if I can load that pk3 into a source port that will support stuff with 60-70k monsters in the map that's playable fps... Then I'd be golden. If there's another way to mod the chain gun without a pk3 file.. Then I'd be golden.

Maybe someone knows a different solution

[jovial wing]

maybe try zdoom?

[ruby wyvern]

zfvrgfadwfawdfadfafefaefaefaefeafewafwafawfwa

[finite crag]

https://youtu.be/_pzQrK0xvaM?feature=shared

[halcyon willow]

then there's something wrong with your set up. gzdoom can run things like sunder just fine

also gzdoom can support much bigger maps because udmf has no linedef limit

[void hemlock]

I love how they used the Q3A/Live model, which is my favorite design of Doomguy honestly

[finite crag]

Same

Since we got the re-released of the classic doom on consoles. Is it possible to get a mod called Brutal Doom on Doom 1 and Doom 2

[void hemlock]

For what we know it’s just some WADs for custom maps and monsters as of now

But who knows

[halcyon willow]

no. it's full of ripped assets

and the unity port only runs limit removing wads

[slender sentinel]

No idea what could be wrong with Gzdoom if it's my setup.

I can run Sunder on Gzdoom just fine, it's because the 6k+ maps have monsters that aren't all active at once.

But once I get into a map where it's 4k-6k+ of active monsters in one giant room, Gzdoom bogs down, while PrBoom can play those same maps for me with 200-250+ FPS

[halcyon willow]

what map are you playing

because it's probably not made for gzdoom then

keep in mind gzdoom adds dynamic lights to every projectile if you have lights.pk3 enabled

but if you're playing something like okuplok on gzdoom, well that's on you lol

[slender sentinel]

No Lights or Brightmaps enabled on the Gzdoom launcher.

Maps like TSMTv3
Slaughterfest 3's Conclusion map I'm pretty sure won't even run on PrBoom, so that's on them I guess lol

[halcyon willow]

there's a reason different ports exist, they all have different feature sets and use cases. dsda doom can handly 40k enemies in one map, gzdoom can handle portals, models and 3d floors. you pick the one whose features match what you want to make and use it

but don't assume just because one port can do something, another one can do it equally

[slender sentinel]

Yeah. I'm figuring that out here. This was all fairly new to me a week ago lol

At first glance I figured, "Gzdoom seems to be the most updated, probably the most efficient" Well...true in some cases..others, not so much

[halcyon willow]

yes gzdoom is "advanced", but that comes at a cost. and it's still bound by a lot of backwards compatibility to run vanilla/boom stuff

which prevents it from being fully modernised

[slender sentinel]

I figured, "I have a beefy as hell computer, I should be able to run everything"

[halcyon willow]

hopefully something that vkdoom will fix

gzdoom is still largely single core

so modern cpus don't get properly utilised.

and it doesn't offload much to the gpu in a normal doom map. a map designed around gpu usage however ... well then you can extract more performance. converting geometry to models moves that element to the gpu and helps free up the cpu bottleneck

i have been finding out though that gzdoom's VRAM usage is pretty horrendous, especially with big textures

but again, that's on me to manage

[slender sentinel]

I remember reading somewhere that because of the way Doom has to run in source ports that making it multicore or having paralel computing is basically pointless?

Did Vkdoom figure out a different way to do it?

[halcyon willow]

anyway, back to teh original connundrum. you can manipulate how many monsters are active much more carefully in gzdoom with dormant flags and spawning things in

[halcyon willow]

vkdoom dropped backwards compatibility. we found some interesting (and impressive) imrpovements in the shader renderer by stripping things out

like even without the baked lighting it runs better than gzdoom

but it will likely break on vanilla/boom wads (this is known/intentional)

might be some news around that over the new year 😉

[slender sentinel]

Here's an error I haven't came across yet. Trying to load SF2023 into PrBoom+

createPatch: Unknown patch format TITLEPIC.

[halcyon willow]

SF2023 was a garbage wad full of stolen levels and music

so i'm not surprised it doesn't work

it bears not relation to the original Slaughterfest series

[slender sentinel]

The post I got it from states that the stolen maps were deleted and the music was replaced with uncopyrighted versions.

Didn't look into how true it is, just wanna kill shit

[halcyon willow]

there are much better offerings for that

[stuck shuttle]

I'm surprised the Dean hasn't reviewed MyHouse, especially since the map captivated the internet when it was released. But I guess it isn't like a normal Doom map and the experience feels more akin to The Stanley Parable so he may not enjoy it that much despite the insane work put into this map

[pale finch]

what is SF2023

[surreal nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-poopm-peem-gaming-enemy-gif-16502341

[finite crag]

[halcyon willow]

Slaughterfest was a community project series focusing on massive slaughter maps. There were 4? iterations I think. SF2023 was made by someone trying to cash in on the name and stole a bunch of maps to put in their project.

this is one of the more iconic maps from the proper series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo6J4l6HupQ

[mellow matrix]

one of the best players ever taking 68 minutes to uvmax

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-stop-stop-clock-time-gif-5001372

[halcyon willow]

yeah that map is HUGE

[mellow matrix]

if a Zzul route takes over an hour I bet a blind run with saves would take me at least 4

[halcyon willow]

once he managed to get the run he said he was never doing it again lol

does look like a few people have beaten his time though since them

speedrunners are mad bastards lol

[noble wedge]

Brother you’re missing out. It’s got a tonne of fun different WADs

I hated BTSX 1&2 when I first played them, but after playing them again I came to love them, great maps.

[wide sinew]

Just beat Sigil II!

[wide sinew]

Yeah, I just calculated the amount of unique maps in the modern ports of both Doom 1 and 2 if you include the mods, and it currently sits at a staggering 548!

[spark furnace]

Man Sigil 2 is hard.

UV? Heh, I'll pass.

and thats always my default setting

[halcyon willow]

Sigil 1 was pretty spicy and it sounds like Romero has added extra peppers to Sigil 2

[autumn mauve]

Lol I just now noticed lol. I was playing plutonia and tnt last night

[autumn mauve]

That's insane!

[vast reef]

especially the doom community, dear god

same thing with mario kaizo romhacks and iwbtg fangames, the mappers/level makers keep making harder stuff and the players keep getting better

[halcyon willow]

wildly high skill ceiling

[noble wedge]

Honestly Sigil 2 isn’t that bad, admittedly I only read up for the secrets that are available in the first 30 seconds of the map because some of them were a bit harder to find

Until I realised a bit of exploring would’ve done the trick

There’s some WADs that are kind of slept on when it comes to Unity ports, I recently played The Troopers Playground, that was quite fun

[unreal gulch]

even the vanilla game has a wide range from ITYTD to NM, then the community just kicks it up a notch

[vast reef]

up by like... 30 notches

[unreal gulch]

no you see that one notch is a whole staircase

👀

always thought it would be cool to show 1993 doomers what 2023 doom was

[vast reef]

lmao

[vast reef]

trueee

[finite crag]

Now I'm thinking that, and it would satisfy that one guy in the doom 2 trailer thing about "bad graphics"

[finite crag]

I hope someone understands that reference

[night echo]

yeah, the bethesda ports come with tons of free add-ons

it’s great

[finite crag]

I play Doom zero a lot on my switch

[jovial wing]

imagine showing them brutal doom

[azure nimbus]

Sigil 2 has arrows? #screenshots message
How John Romero has fallen :(

[gusty falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/473931297987887106/1186741657593462794/IMG_20231219_134300.jpg?ex=65945a4b&is=6581e54b&hm=abb309d328319cd478f0ac49c9baba3f42905eeaacb4ca938d9e8aaaa120e6b9&

[jovial wing]

downtown

"Hey, all you aspiring level designers, here's a tip. If you need a giant arrow to tell you where to go in the level, the level is not well designed."

[azure nimbus]

people really get too angwy about the arrows

[gusty falcon]

Well that quote is right if you can't organically lead your player by the nose then your level isn't very good

[urban trench]

SIGIL II: E6M6: Vengeance Unleashed finally completed. This is the most evil Doom map I have ever played.

[jovial wing]

what are yalls thoughts on chex quest episode 3?

pro tip: stop wasting propulsor ammo on stidicus in provincial park, just run

[vast reef]

boring

show them gzchaos :P

[jovial wing]

they'd be impressed by both

[hard wolf]

Arrows? What arrows?

Oh, I never noticed them.

[covert cedar]

I just got the snes port of doom 1! It may be bad, but I’m glad i own it now

Playing it feels like my hands are butter

[hard wolf]

No reason why you shouldn't still get to enjoy a new Doom experience. Play away.

[void gazelle]

I remember a friend had that when I was a kid, I was super jealous cause my family only had one computer and my parents didn't like me playing Doom (due to the violence). If I had Doom on SNES I could play it in my room... but after seeing it at a friends house I didn't feel it was worth $70. Second game I got on my PS1 was Doom!!!

I hope you enjoy the SNES port. It's... a port lol

[covert cedar]

I had a ton of fun playing it with friends and it was neat just to see the differences of the game.

[finite crag]

On gzdoom I played the Doom PSX port, cus you can't find a classic PlayStation anymore

And the amount of dread I had playing it, the music really makes you feel like you are not alone, and you ain't, you know that, but it still brings chills.

[solemn solar]

Same bro

I got the nes system and game

[spice radish]

Aubrey Hodges did an amazing job. Imagine if they had him do the Quake soundtrack instead of Trent Reznor

not to shit on the Quake ost its got fantastic ambience and the Quake theme slaps

[cosmic pagoda]

if you got the game, emulation for PS1 works really well, by the way

[vast reef]

aubrey hodges is a dude?

[spice radish]

yeah? or did i miss something?

[vast reef]

i always thought he was a girl bc i never bothered looking him up 😭

[snow urchin]

doomrbob

[hot steppe]

[finite crag]

👍

[royal heron]

If Sigil was serranos, Sigil 2 is habaneros lmao

[young escarp]

Hey yall, do you know of any doom wads that have doom monsters and heretic/hexen units as well? Ive played the Lost Magic a while ago but i'm looking for other similar wads

[zenith berry]

you can also grab the contents of the PS1 disc and play it with a source port named PsyDoom.

it basically runs PSX DOOM (and Final DOOM) natively, plus some QoL features

probably the best way to play the PS1 port if you don’t want modern-ish features from PSX CE mod or the hassles of emulation.

[finite crag]

https://youtu.be/7MK3dJ_5Wxw?feature=shared

This channel is comedy gold

[jovial wing]

fr

I NEED full version of archvile and chickens dancing to ievan polkka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGYAcRo580

favorite by far

[raw jacinth]

i have a wad from my dad made in 1995

[lost peak]

Ah. I wish my dad preserved his doom maps

[finite crag]

Can we see thine mod?

I wish my dad played doom

[zenith berry]

My dad played both Wolfenstein and DOOM, but he remembers Wolf more than DOOM.

He stopped playing games for a while after that so he didn’t play Quake or Duke Nukem 3D.

[finite crag]

God bless this guy who created bullet time x

Best mode for having fun on arenas with brutal mods

[uncut kite]

How can I play tnt or plutonia with the more modern 'doom 2' on steam? It lets me launch them in the dosbox version, but I cant find a way with the new version. All I can choose is doom 2 or master levels...

[finite crag]

https://youtu.be/CFSRjyUTYl8?feature=shared

[finite crag]

You have to go to the addons menu and download them

[uncut kite]

Theres no way without making a bethesda account im guessing?

oh making an account isnt even annoying, ty

[finite crag]

Yeah

[eager solstice]

shitgil 2

[vestal wing]

I'm not taking that John Romero

[finite crag]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[wide sinew]

The Trooper's Playground is classic early Doom mod jank, and that's why I love it

[wide sinew]

Yeah, it's not the greatest, but for the SNES it's RIDICULOUSLY impressive. It was the '90s equivalent to Doom Eternal on Switch, but even more technically impressive than that. Like, it's straight up witchcraft, and Randy Linden ALMOST CERTAINLY sold his soul to the devil himself in order to pull it off.

[covert cedar]

For sure super impressive! I love seeing the culmination of the work put into the port, and it being at least decent and still very much fun to mess around with

The snes is my favorite old console too so it’s a big thing for me to see one of my favorite games on it is a dream for me

[wary radish]

this is just wrong

[gentle compass]

The SNES port owns

[wide sinew]

It's even more impressive when you realize that the levels in it more closely follow the PC original rather than having the altered levels that every other '90s console port had at the time to save on memory!

[covert cedar]

It’s so cool honestly, and the fact that I believe it’s one of the few (if not only) snes cartridges to be a different color other than grey is just fitting for a game as iconic as doom

[finite crag]

Guys I want to play elementalism

Has anyone played it? With which mods is it compatible?

[finite crag]

I need 2016 monster pack

But anything Ive found is a monster pack with really ugly hell knight

[vast reef]

look for a d4t monsters-only version ig

that probably exists

[finite crag]

Ive found hellwalker and just dont want to play doom anymore

They rip&tear my ass on the easiest difficulty(

[vast reef]

lmao

[finite crag]

Cant even pass entryway

[vast reef]

if u want it to be easier just use ucd and nerf some stuff a bit

ucd = ultimate custom doom btw

[finite crag]

Wow

Ok ill check it

Would be nice so I can make some changes in other monster packs

For example make these imps a bit fatter to make it more accurate to 2016

Btw what is it?

Mod for doom or another programm?

Cuz I use deltatouch

[jovial wing]

how tight was ammo when yall played chex quest?

[hard wolf]

Never played it.

[jovial wing]

you should

spoiler: ||manage your ammo well, e3m4 is gonna catch up to you||

[finite crag]

Are there mappacks with 2016 styled arenas? Where you destroy one thing, heavy metal starts playing and you destroy several waves of demons

https://youtu.be/gTrg4YNN1vA?feature=shared

[finite crag]

Is it just a pack of arenas?

Indeed

I just competed final carnage and want exactly the same I had there

I also recomend doom 4 vanilla

I play eoa

No need for d4v

Okei

[vale gyro]

Sigil 2's 3rd level is EVIL

can't even beat the first part of it currently

also

anyone else having issues playing both the MIDI and MP3 versions of the soundtrack in Crispy Doom or is it a me problem?

[hard wolf]

Why are people having so many problems with Sigil 2?

[vale gyro]

not sure

it works just fine with DSDA

But I hate it for the same reasons I hate BRBoom+ and Woof

[hard wolf]

I think the midi is just the one track throughout the entire game. The Thorr soundtrack supposedly contains multiple tracks.

[vale gyro]

it's automap colors

and DSDA doesn't even have the colored blood as well

[hard wolf]

But I didn't find it particularly difficult either.

[vale gyro]

so I'm genuinely suffering

[hard wolf]

What's DSDA?

[vale gyro]

a sourceport

well, DSDA-Doom precisely

DSDA is the Doom Speed Demos Archive

[hard wolf]

I don't know, I used the PS4 port.

I don't really use the PC anymore.

[jovial wing]

dsda doom is one of the best "classic" source ports imo

[hard wolf]

Gives me repetitive strain in my hands with the keyboard and mouse.

[vale gyro]

still gotta find some way to get my colored blood and vanilla map colors back

cuz I am literally dying in game from those facts alone

[hard wolf]

But it's not a difficult game either. It's all relative, people consider things difficult because they expect to be able to beat it first try without dying, but that's not a typical realistic play through.

I don't know about the blood, it looks normal to me.

[vale gyro]

also I just noticed the rendering is smooth

I'm hating this sourceport the more I use it

[vale gyro]

colored blood in the sense the caco and barons get their respective blood colors

in the original engine, all blood splatters are red

but holy shit the THORR soundtrack is banging

I can somewhat ignore those faults just for the soundtrack

[hard wolf]

Try typing A, B, A, C, A, B, B.

The music's negligable, I'm usually playing whatever I was already listening to and switch the game's music off.

The game performance and gameplay is the important thing.

[vale gyro]

don't see how that helps

[hard wolf]

But I'm over Sigil 2 now, I've been playing QDoom, I just hope they'll add episodes 2 and 3.

[hard wolf]

Did you actually try it?

[vale gyro]

yeah

even then, not a cheatcode

[hexed escarp]

Crispy doesn't support sigil 2 and likely wont

I opened an issue about it and the dev replied with this

[azure nimbus]

DSDA has controller support

[hexed escarp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/365923190792519682/1184941287082827897/image.png?ex=65970811&is=65849311&hm=bc048bae6e652833167ed939d6609d1beec1ed11fcb76c28e045cd930268debf&

[vale gyro]

yeah, I saw the issue you posted actually

switched to DSDA and I've hated it so far (as I've said)

[hexed escarp]

I play sigil 2 on woof

[vale gyro]

it has all the same issues as DSDA just without the no colored blood issue sadly

[hexed escarp]

It's basically crispy but it supports boom, umapinfo, and mbf21

[hexed escarp]

It has colored blood

[hexed escarp]

Also what are the issues with dsda

[vale gyro]

no colored blood (as I said), weird rendering even with software enabled, and the automap pallete

[hexed escarp]

Huh

I havent noticed any weird rendering with woof

I don't use dsda tho

[vale gyro]

well, I haven't used Woof since I wiped my laptop for Linux so

but I know it has the automap issue

[hexed escarp]

I think it lets you set a custom automap palette but maybe im wrong

[vale gyro]

I found a Reddit post about some guy wanting the vanilla pallete colors. It gave no answer

[vale gyro]

it does actually

[hexed escarp]

So then what's the problem

[vale gyro]

cannot for the life of me get the colors right

[hexed escarp]

Ah

[vale gyro]

but there is no pixels at all with dsda when it comes to rendering

so it's a smooth render the entire time

not like texture filtering, btw

like GZDoom with it turned off ig

[hexed escarp]

I have had no problems with woof, I use it to play everything

[vale gyro]

probably gonna go back to Woof and try to get the pallete right at some point

[vale gyro]

didn't have any except the automap palate as well iirc

the colors just throw me off, really

just have to finish Sigil 2 fully before I can, though

[hexed escarp]

I don't use the automap too often

[vale gyro]

I rarely use it but when I do the colors screw with me

[vale gyro]

cuz I don't want to pistol start M5 by any means..

[hexed escarp]

Woof now works with Eviternity 2 so that's good

[vale gyro]

guess I'll suffer with DSDA for now then

can't exactly go back now

[azure nimbus]

Try OpenGL on DSDA. It's set up to be extremely extremely loyal to software rendering visually, with all the benefits of opengl

[vale gyro]

just tried that

still has the same exact issue

[azure nimbus]

what are you playing, the pwad? I haven't had rendering problems on dsda but maybe I'm playing different stuff

[vale gyro]

it's just how Crispy renders things tbh

on high res mode it still has some pixels in there

in DSDA it's fully smooth

it just threw me off really

[azure nimbus]

Would, and I know this seems silly, lowering the resolution help maintain that effect

[vale gyro]

fair enough

aight

that fixed it perfectly

why the FUCK didn't I think of that sooner?!

now it's just colored blood and automap

can fix the automap (if given enough time)

just gonna have to try to ignore the lack of colored blood

ok, nvm

found a dehacked that fixes that

[azure nimbus]

I was trying to find one but didn't so nice that you got it

[vale gyro]

ok, JUST noticed something else

DSDA has turn keys binded to E and Q

[azure nimbus]

You can adjust all keybinds

[vale gyro]

that's a problem I cannot fix

[azure nimbus]

Yes it is

Open the settings and change the keybinds

[vale gyro]

as you cannot unset keybinds from their original values, just add in second bindings for them

at least from what I can tell

[azure nimbus]

Yes you can

[vale gyro]

dumbass question then

how can I completely remove a bind then?

because no matter what I do the E and Q stays

omfg I'm blind

nevermind

sorry for wasting your time

[azure nimbus]

You can also change stuff manually in the .cfg file. It'll be DSDA-doom.cfg

[vast reef]

mod for doom, sorry late reply 😭

[vast reef]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/embers-of-armageddon/addons/mars-core-arena

[rustic bough]

Has anyone played all 6 episodes in one sitting yet?

Knee Deep to Sigil 2, I mean.

[vast reef]

will do

[naive niche]

Hey!

Again here... hope things are well 🙂

I wanted to ask about a program for doom classic which tracks the completion of IWADS and custom WADS...

it's monitoring the game progress either by saves or maybe manual insert of records?

does it exist?

found it!

https://github.com/nstlaurent/DoomLauncher
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-launcher-doom-frontend-database/

pin for future 🙏

[naive niche]

also decino made me return to play Doom Classic again (not yet, I need to set it up), he's such a good man and respected youtuber 😉

beforehand, I used to play PB or BD in sequence, each wad alternating between them

PB was better I think, since BD wasn't updated as much

lucky for me I remember all those continued ports, and they are Brutal-Doom-Community-Expansion by bloodwolf333 and PB staging by name guy

do anyone have other ideas here?

[pale finch]

beautiful doom, angled doom, bd platinum

64ifier

[naive niche]

all of them are outdated

but thanks

[pale finch]

wdym outdated

none of them are?

[naive niche]

yep

64ifier last updated may 22
beautiful doom last updated june 21
angled doom last updated july 21
brutal doom platinum last updated feb 22

those mentions I wrote before, are updated all the time

[pale finch]

...you expect daily updates

[naive niche]

not daily, but at least recent

[pale finch]

what even is the point man the mods are finished

they are recent enough

like

that's stupid

[naive niche]

🤷‍♀️

BD bloodwolf is 16/12

PB staging is yesterday

I think I know what is better

[pale finch]

yes because they have githubs and devs toy around with them

as anyone can make new commits to thwm

commit is not an update, it's effectively any change to the files

you don't know what is better, because none of the mods i sent were outdated

the last actual pb update was november 2021

staging is the "stable" branch that sometimes gets patches

[naive niche]

not here to argue man, cheers

[vast reef]

ur a dumdum

they're finished, not outdated

would you call old games outdated LOL

[vast reef]

mfw more updated = better

[vast reef]

yea no need 2 argue
ur take is funny but it's not like it hurts anyone

[cosmic pagoda]

oh ffs beating e3m2 on nightmare 100s is wearing me down

must have put hundreds of tries in now

its so luck based

[vast reef]

godspeed

[finite crag]

<--- Do you know what is this mf?

Couse I have never got it

[vast reef]

supercharge/soul sphere, gives u a shitton of health bonus

[finite crag]

Wow

[cosmic pagoda]

you can find your first one in e1m2

[finite crag]

Thanks guys

[cosmic pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT-Yj12SNgE
see I pick one up at around 55s on this

[finite crag]

Broo its so helpfull, thx

[jovial wing]

and the second one in e1m3, it just stares at you through a window and can be found through a secret

[jovial wing]

to be more specific, it gives +100 health and caps at 200

[finite crag]

[azure nimbus]

Honestly it's one of the easier ones. Get that megaarmor and you'll be ok. There's no need to grab every item on the map. Only the 3 secrets count. So collect only what you need: berserk for health and killing lost souls in the maze and the mega and chaingun

[naive niche]

it's my own opinion, you don't need to swear

unless you are a kid

[vast reef]

😢

.......sorry......

[naive niche]

geez, I'm here 5 seconds and I got slured out

[vast reef]

i will not use the d-word anymore!!!!

[finite crag]

mods ban this guy for saying ||dumdum||

[vast reef]

i have learned from my mistakes.....

forgive me....... 😿

[finite crag]

you will be vanquished to the lowest layer of hell to repent for your sins

[cosmic pagoda]

oh no the d word 😮

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah need to practise more, third of my runs end by either getting bad luck shotgunned on my way to the blue armor, or that caco next to it taking me down to like 5% health

[azure nimbus]

it'll be like 2 tries after you get the blue armor safely

[hard wolf]

I almost forgot to wish Heretic a happy 29th birthday for yesterday.

[vapid trail]

Is doom on the N64?

[worthy scroll]

There is a game called Doom 64 but it's on Steam like the rest of the series.

[finite crag]

Doom 64 is one of my favorites

[misty plank]

Hello fellow slayers! Can you recommend me any good DOOM 1 / 2 Mods which basically are a whole campaign? I'm looking for something that is not just one level but like a proper new game. Are there even mods like this?

[worthy scroll]

Technically, Sonic Robo Blast 2 is a Doom mod but it is so heavily modified that it’s a completely different genre of game. It’s a 3D platformer

I would recommend it if you’re interested tho. It’s free

[mellow matrix]

https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/
this should keep you busy for a long time

[hard wolf]

There was Alien Doom back in the days, which was the bomb.

[worthy scroll]

A fellow Breaking Bad fan, i see ^ω^

[south hare]

Waltuh

[worthy scroll]

Lol

Well i was referring to the use of the term “the bomb” to describe something you like

[south hare]

Hector

[cosmic pagoda]

eh it's just popular slang of the era

[cosmic pagoda]

https://i.imgur.com/8jhIz0b.png
this is a nasty little boy there tho

[worthy scroll]

Well yeah, because of Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad

[cosmic pagoda]

nah you got the cause and effect all mixed up

[worthy scroll]

You sure? I don’t think i’ve heard my peers say it much at all, and i only started saying it after starting BB because Jesse is my fav character and i tend to absorb phrases i like (i also started saying yo a lot more haha)

[cosmic pagoda]

yueah thats way older than that show, link got removed because of bot but I found a thread tracing it back to the 50s

google it becasue links get 1984d here

[worthy scroll]

Wdym by that? Like that slot that incinerates papers from the movie 1984?

[cosmic pagoda]

an allegory for censorship yeah

a bot removes links if you post

[worthy scroll]

Ah

[worthy scroll]

Not really an allegory tho lmao it's kinda LITERALLY what happens in that movie 🤣

[hexed escarp]

what is the best way to play classic doom in vr

[vale gyro]

QuestZDoom apparently is quite good

maybe GZDoomVR as well might be good, can’t tell you for sure though

[worthy scroll]

Since when is classic doom on vr? That sounds like a massive headache waiting to happen

[celest ice]

I saw how my friend was playing doom 3 on vr

[worthy scroll]

You sure that wasn’t Doom VFR? I hear it sucks

[celest ice]

No, it's worse

[worthy scroll]

Hm

[finite crag]

I saw some stuff about doom VR, one person played a doom Ghostbusters mod in vr

[safe swan]

Wassup

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[hard wolf]

I think there were VR versions of both Doom 3 and Doom 2016. I mean they actually had their own storyline separate to the main campaigns. There was a Wolfenstein VR too.

[cosmic pagoda]

I DID IT !!!!!

thanks for making me have hope

oh god damn it I didnt have demo recording on, gotta redo it now

but I know I am able to now

oh dsda launcher does not consider demo record location par tof saved states? ffs why

[hard wolf]

Did what?

[cosmic pagoda]

finish e3m2 on nightmare with 100% secrets, been trying for a couple of days now

the routing that finally worked for me was blue armor - plasma - berserk - chaingun secret - soulsphere secret - blue key - exit

[celest ice]

Nice😎

[cosmic pagoda]

okay managed to do that, took me another 10 attempts but I made it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qwrI780N9E

[hard wolf]

How do you pronounce Slough?

[cosmic pagoda]

good question

[safe swan]

Hey

I found some lore

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-external-doomguy-doom-slayer-raised-eyebrown-gif-24765324

[cosmic pagoda]

but its doom

[hard wolf]

What lore?

[azure nimbus]

e3 is definitely the best place to start your nightmare gaming. From there e1 has a bunch of hard levels(3, and 9 especially). But e2 is mostly super easy -- except e2m6 is terrible. LIke super hard. then obviously e4 is gonna be terrible too

[vast reef]

https://youtu.be/3r-a8LzZcQo?si=3SrQRRnROlJP4lmZ

[finite crag]

Guys guys guys I started playing false angel

And I dont have hud

What to do

[zenith berry]

there’s a town in England that’s named Slough

and hearing it I only remember E3M2 :p

[finite crag]

Pro tip: if you dont have hud just change screen size

[vast reef]

false angel's concept seems really cool but the sprites r kinda 😬 tbh

slightly downscaled blender screenshot

[safe swan]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doomguy-fortnite-fortnite-dance-griddy-dance-gif-3483073436371392392

[shy frost]

guys pls i neeeeeed a big favor, i'm trying from days to use all of this mods toghether, i can't do it, pls someone can do it for me and send me like a folder , or help me in private. i'm speaking of the mods from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSTV3JxctgI

[shy frost]

the mods are in the description

[pulsar valve]

[safe swan]

Wassup

Wanna see something cool

https://tenor.com/view/revenant-doom-doom2-jumpscare-gif-22108444

[proud pilot]

got ios doom and it is truly a fucking atrocious port

[safe swan]

Wat

[finite crag]

You should play deltatouch

[finite crag]

Deltatouch is goated.
Anyway, I have a quick question about the Switch ports (also applies to Quake) when I download the addons, they default into the SD card, even if the game itself is in internal memory. Is there any way to change that in the settings? The Switch doesn't let me move that data manually, treats it as updats files.

The only thing I can think of is take the card out when downloading an addon

Came to mind too, might do that tomorrow.

[worthy scroll]

Wait is quake on switch?

[finite crag]

I think so

Yeah it's on switch

[vast reef]

what problem are you running into?

[pale finch]

what even is this bruv

[vast reef]

saying "i can't do it" gives us zero context

[pale finch]

why does the guy use fisheye lenses

[vast reef]

fugly

[jovial wing]

🗿

[finite crag]

[worthy scroll]

I wonder why we say “classic doom” and not “old doom”

[shy frost]

sorry

i did put all the pk3s in a folder to open with the last version of gzdoom

it dont work, it says error 3 decorations, something like that

but

wait i did it

2 mods had 2 pk3s files so i put all in a folder in the folder of the modpack

but liquid texture pac deosnt work

sorry guys for spamm sorry i wil not do it anymore, someone can just help me if they want to, i have a little problem with a texture

[finite crag]

Why do we call it Team Fortress classic and not Team Fortress Old

It doesn't fit

It feels better to say classic

[void hemlock]

plus "old" down the line could mean to a game that in the same series but can literally be older than another game mentioned

[shy frost]

someone could help me plspls

[void hemlock]

"Classic Doom" is one series while "Modern Doom" applies to current Doom games

[shy frost]

idk how to do the modpack some youtubers have

[pale finch]

or nudoom

[shy frost]

i did put all the files togheter but it doesnt work 4 me lol

[pale finch]

use zdl

[shy frost]

oh

so it will not work with gzd