classic-doom

[finite crag]

Plutonia

[mint elk]

I'll check it out

Wait wtf 32 maps??

ONE OF THE CREATORS WORKED ON HALF LIFE WHAT

ok this isn't just a fan mod it's game devs working on doom

[dusky sierra]

Can someone explain to me about Doom lost episodes red spot of jupiter?

Its a gas planet.. and the episode takes place in basically a cloud.

I'm pretty sure the knowledge of Jupiter being a gas planet was common knowledge even back then, is this just overlooked detail or is there an ingame explanation?

[halcyon elm]

i'm pretty sure plutonia was part of what got him into valve too

[spice radish]

Crazy how Archvile traps got a man a job at Valve

I blame Dario for some of the dickish stuff enemy placement in Half-Life 1

It’s got his stench

[halcyon elm]

i don't remember any particularly bad enemy placement in hl1

[spice radish]

Not bad placement. But stuff like enemies behind corners

Stuff that Plutonia would pull

Like using especially annoying enemies

[dusky sierra]

What's your favourite Total Conversion doom mod?

[remote cedar]

Mega Man 8-bit Deathmatch, if that counts

[spice radish]

Reelism 2 and Ashes 2063/ Afterglow

[west bane]

Just curious, what's the fastest time you've beet E1 of the original doom?

[dense plinth]

Probably like, 20 seconds

[cedar pine]

13.3

[dense plinth]

Oh wait E1 entirely not just e1m1

Probably 30 minutes

[cedar pine]

hm

idk actually

[west bane]

The entire first episode

[finite crag]

What's everyone's use key
Mine is mouse2

[vast reef]

check out icaruslives on youtube, amazing repository of mod reviews

[vast reef]

it's an official expansion pack lel

[mint elk]

Thanks a bunch!

I just got into doom modding damn it's literally everything I've been wanting, a pve non ending custom experience that has a charm of retro gaming, why haven't I gotten in sooner?? Ig more new experiences either way

[mint elk]

weh? I suppose that makes more sense now:P

https://youtu.be/s2JpikeT12o

Doom mods are so cool!

[vast reef]

are you filipino by any chance

[mint elk]

Nah lol I'm saudi

[vast reef]

ah

do you guys also use "weh?" to say "really?"

[mint elk]

Not really ive been seeing it a lot on a discord I talk in a lot and it kinda stuck for me

[dusky sierra]

Best time 14 minutes

Averaging around 20-25 minutes

[spice radish]

Its actually insane the stuff that has been made with GZDoom

Doom total conversion mods are so much fun

[mint elk]

Literally I feel like I'll have endless fun that's not just that but unique experiences as well

Most other games have just a gun collection that reuses the balance of weapons with new models or just another map but here it's actual games, plus it being around for more then 20 years map design has been mastered and taught around for new creators to expand too

[spice radish]

Theres a game made on GZDoom on Steam right now called Captain Wayne - Vacation Desperation. Only a demo out right now but I highly recommend checking out its stupid fun.

[mint elk]

thanks for the recommendation!

oOo it's style is awesome! It really looks interesting I can't wait to try it out

I love when creators go for fun weapons like his gun arm being fed ammo than traditional stuff

[zenith berry]

GZDoom is basically an all purpose engine at this point.

https://twitter.com/GreenL3gacy/status/1521058987579707392?s=20

GreenL3gacy (@GreenL3gacy)

Time to make it playable!
#pixelart #indiegame #indiedev #gamedev #gzdoom #アクションゲーム #ゲーム開発 #ゲーム制作 #ドット絵

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[spice radish]

Holy shit this looks incredible

[spice radish]

They got the sound design on the weapons perfect.

[mint elk]

I love how doom became beyond modding the game and its just full on self expression of what ever you want to make

I'm curious does anyone know what this pic is from and whats the mod name? #screenshots

[spice radish]

Its from a game called Beyond Sunset (also made in GZDoom) and is a stand alone game on Steam

[mint elk]

thanks for the info! It looks super awesome I can't wait to try it out

I'm curious from how long doom has been around and it probably being super optimized and easier to mod, is there basically a mod relating to anything that you would think is doomable? Like game related stuff or like big topics or especially horror stuff

[spice radish]

The series is like 30 years old. GZDoom has its limits but tbh nearly anything can be made in it now. It's sort of like the Source engine of retro style shooters. Mods and games like

-Selaco
-Total Chaos
-Ashes 2063 and Ashes Afterglow
-The Age of Hell (being developed by one of the servers mods)

These do some crazy stuff in GZDoom and Selaco, Total Chaos, and Ashes 2063/ Afterglow all have there own campaigns

[mint elk]

I heavily underestimated what giving 30 years to modders well look like

[spice radish]

Most modding communties for games that are from the same era as Doom have similar modding communities

Just Doom is the easiest to mod imo

[mint elk]

Ye bless the devs bro they heavily encouraged it and now its a non stop growing community

[zenith berry]

MyHouse.wad can also be in the list, with its complex utilization of world portals and polyobjects.

[spice radish]

True. I still have no idea how some of the stuff in that wad was pulled off

Super creative with its mechanics and the backstory about its creation is kinda wholesome and interesting

[split jewel]

I remember someone remaking FNAF on Zandronum

[cerulean delta]

Wanna try some DOS source ports, I’ve tried the vanilla EXE and Boom, what else is out there?

Is anything worth playing? I know of DOSdoom and MBF

[zenith berry]

Chocolate Doom

[mint elk]

https://youtu.be/Y1PJ6e8m7vI

This... explains so much

No wonder I hate the rocket in vanilla doom

[narrow condor]

Don't you love it when you facerocket in the middle of peekaboo shooting because of horizontal autoaim?

[fair snow]

H

[ornate vortex]

I beat crumpets map 8, time wasn’t great but it’s not worth speedrunning again

that start is the most stressful thing i’ve come up against in doom

and I also have a question

is DIY any good (the doom wad)

[halcyon elm]

<@&162901871168585728>

[calm cradle]

👍

[halcyon elm]

ty

[honest kindle]

i finally beat plutonia on UV

thats all

ill go back into lurking

[wide sinew]

I finally beat Plutonia, and, by extension, Final Doom!

I feel like Final Doom may just be the hardest Doom game

It's also probably the only Doom game to feature legit bad level design (specifically in the TNT half)

[silent remnant]

Doom 2 would like a word

[wide sinew]

I've literally been playing Final Doom off and on again for the past couple years, so it feels nice to have finally finished it

[wide sinew]

I never got the hate for Doom II's level design tbh

[halcyon elm]

It's just not fun

[wide sinew]

The Super Shotgun is all I need to have fun in that game lol

[halcyon elm]

You can use it in Plutonia

[wide sinew]

I never said Plutonia is bad

I said TNT is. And unlike Doom II, TNT was the only game in the series where I geniunely thought to myself "fuck this map" at one point

Yeah, both TNT and Doom II have the SSG, but while Doom II has some levels that are just kinda "meh" to some people, TNT's has a few levels that are just downright shit.

It has way lower lows than Doom II

I wouldn't call Doom II's levels "bad", more "experimental".

[gentle compass]

Someone had to make the first city maps

[dense plinth]

Doom II's maps are more rushed than anything

[vast reef]

👆

[glass anchor]

Fun Fact: Kitchen ace and taking names is based off a guitar riff in the PanterA Song Rise.

[vast reef]

yeah

e3m1 (untitled) is based on pantera's mouth for war

lots of 90s metal riffs in the doom soundtrack

i feel like demilich's songs could make for some good MIDIs

lots of other death metal goes well with doom too tbh

[remote cedar]

Another fun fact: it's my favorite track in the entire Doom franchise

[dim wave]

I’ve started playing through Ribbiks and dannebubinga’s SUNLUST and I gotta say it’s not nearly as difficult as everyone hyped it up to be, especially when I set the difficulty to I’m Too Young To Die

[ornate vortex]

Finishing crumpets today!

[vast reef]

your fault for playing on itytd

[dim wave]

I was being facetious, it’s actually quite fun and I don’t like brutally hard games anyway

On ITYTD it just plays like DOOM II on HMP

At least for now, I have yet to make it to the really slaughter heavy maps

[glass anchor]

i agree

[ornate vortex]

gg

[narrow condor]

Good work!

[tepid tulip]

I have a question

I was looking at Dean of Dooms review of Alien Vendetta and I wanna try it bc it looks fun but I'm seeing the later levels and it looks like it might be beyond my level

Well then again he reviews UV difficulty, is HMP difficulty of AV more tolerable?

[azure nimbus]

I think you'll be ok either way. It was one of the first wads that he reviewed. So, he wasn't as skilled as he was now. AV is helped a lot if you plan a bit and use the wiki. So feel free to look up secrets on doomwiki or even play in iddqd for a bit then return to a previous save as a way to plan your route. AV was hard for its era, but is very manageable by today's standards. If not, HMP should be better

[narrow condor]

Also helps that the difficulty slope isn't too steep. The early maps are fairly lenient and later maps won't be as hard as you gradually warm up and internalise the mappers' tricks.

[weary gazelle]

I just finished DOOM 1 for the Xbox One, but after I beat the Spiderdemon and the credits rolled, I didn’t see any neat cutscene like my guide showed. Do I have to do some extra thing or something?

[dense plinth]

Na that should have been enough

[vocal summit]

i don't remember there being a cutscene after you beat the spider mastermind in the xbox port

[weary gazelle]

Aww maybe it’s just not in the Xbox port

It looks awesome though

[vocal summit]

the xbox port or the xbox 360 XBLA port?

because the xbox one 2019 port is the same as on every other platform

[mint elk]

Wait a damn second

People dislike doom 2's city levels?

downtime is my favorite map when moving around I love how every building has it's thing going on

This isn't me as an old fan I'm saying as someone who's just getting into doom and just finished the city stage recently

The industrial zone can suck an egg tho

[mint elk]

ok so im kinda a sissy

i wanna try myhouse but i dont know if its too reliant on jumpscares or not

i dont mind jumpscares but if its png screamers spam i may pass

[zenith berry]

||There are absolutely NO screamers, but some stuff later in the mod may shock you at first anyways.||

Just to make you safe, you’ll eventually get back to some demon killing action towards the end, so fret not.

[mint elk]

oOo sweet! Thanks for the help btw I'll try it out

[mint elk]

I take it back

Fuck e1m19

THE REQUIRED ITEMS TO BEAT IT ARE SECRET???

[zenith berry]

You mean Map19?

[mint elk]

Yes the citedals

[ornate vortex]

the shitadel

[azure nimbus]

after being e3m8, there should be a short scroll sorta thing where you see daisy and the city

Though they might've changed it to a different redits thing in the unity port

[zenith berry]

The DOOM 2016 styled credits should follow the episode’s ending.

[proper steeple]

Incredibly based

[spice radish]

There’s only one part in the map I can think of that’s a “jumpscare”. It’s not that bad otherwise. It just has a eerie atmosphere more then anything

[ruby crater]

Beating episode 3 should show only a png of Doomguy holding Daisy’s severed head with the text “THE END” on screen

[dusky sierra]

Is there any way to see how long it took for me to beat one of doom's episodes?

I just beated E1 in possibly my fastest time ever and I have no idea how long it took and was honestly not expecting myself to be that fast so I didn't set up a timer (and no I didn't use any saves)

I don't know how long it took but I might've beaten E1 UV in only 13 minutes

[finite crag]

I beat the first 14 maps of speed of doom

i know that this is an unpopular opinion, but i like Joshy's maps better

They are just more fun to me, mainly because the harder and kinda better gameplay and simplicity in his maps

I don't like getting a 100% secrets but i need to because i feel like i left the map unfinished if i don't get a 100% kills and secrets, and that's also a reason why i like Joshy's maps better, because he puts 1 or 2 secrets in his maps and they are easy to find, while darkwave puts 5 or 6

[visual harbor]

probably got censored in an older port and they either forgot to readd it or just couldn’t be bothered

[lilac beacon]

hello chat

[royal heron]

Hello

[tepid tulip]

Alright I was really late to respond but seems like people say AV is tolerable at the skill I'm gonna play on

[tulip leaf]

refuelling base is so hard

are thre any other discords for classic doom by the way

[dense plinth]

I got Hexen yesterday and I discovered it has jumping and I still can't get over that fact

[elder igloo]

check my mod in #classic-doom-maps-mods

[cerulean delta]

Welp, might end up Deathmatching with a Tinder date

So that’s fun

[vast reef]

damn

[cerulean delta]

I dunno how I managed to find someone else my age into doom near me

Nothing says romance like virtually shooting your date in the face

[cerulean delta]

Haven’t death matched in a long time, remembering just how hard the SSG is to use in DM.

If you’re just off the mark it’s a pea shooter. If you’re right in it can be a 1 hit kill.

[remote cedar]

What map did you deathmatch on?

Was it Entryway?

[zenith berry]

I just read MyHouse.wad’s readme, considering the nature of the mod maybe imagine if one day it suddenly gets updated adding some subtle new stuff, etc. without the creator telling

It would add up to the feel that it “changes by itself”

[ornate vortex]

For anyone that has played both Rush and Scythe, how would you compare "Fire and Ice" to "The Destination"

As in Scythe map 30 and Rush map 12

[halcyon willow]

There aren't any cut scenes in classic doom

There's a still image if that's what you're referring too

[cerulean delta]

FreeDM map01, I don’t go on my date for another week so I just found a public server on Zandronum

[vocal summit]

https://youtu.be/29KYTA2EdhI

[finite crag]

im playing myhouse.wad

[zenith berry]

It's a new addition to the Unity port only (as it says on the tin)

[vocal summit]

and waow was playing the unity port

[fresh zenith]

I wanna run doom on a calculator

[vast reef]

OOM

[zenith berry]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/136944-moving-a-doom-walking-simulator/

Play this, it's so good.

[hexed escarp]

what is your guys favorite doom wad title screen theme

[azure nimbus]

Nosp2

[finite crag]

Um guys question here
I'm new to here and I don't really know which game to start at. Probably here cuz this is the first one but I just want clarification

[vast reef]

from what i see, start with any game you feel like but play d2016 before eternal ig

playing doom for the plot is silly

[vast reef]

also i'd recommend progressing through the IWADs (the commercially released classic doom games) in order of release

[narrow condor]

Grove

Eerie and moody but mildly comforting.

[ornate vortex]

crumpets, super groovy

[zenith berry]

TNT Evilution, DOOM 4 Vanilla.

[upper crypt]

Anomaly Report (which comes from Map 11 of Memento Mori 2)

[hexed escarp]

my favorites are eviternity and memento mori 2s title themes

[atomic violet]

Any want to do the when I we you trophy for doom 2. I am from ps4

[slender pilot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVuZ5SVBA3U if u go to 3:54-3:56 they got the sound effect when a demon gets hit

[spice radish]

A lot of Classic Dooms sounds are stock sounds. Barley any if any at all where originally made

Same with the music

[cerulean delta]

Wanna try and go as far back as I can with Doom demos. Where can I find more info about the oldest known Doom demos?

I’d assume it was uploaded on Usenet like Origwad.wad

[zenith berry]

Wonder what's the original source of ZDoom's secret revealed sound

If it's a stock sound, then I'd like to know which.

[narrow condor]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11387

[drowsy yew]

anyone else played original doom on console?

[azure nimbus]

It's solid. While getting the doom.wad file for source ports is better, it's a great place to start

[hexed perch]

Ayo, doom is so good

i played it and its hella fun

[halcyon elm]

pretty sure you can find the demos themselves

[vast reef]

yeah, that's the sound when a zombieman dies

decino has a video on the origin of doom's sound effects i'm pretty sure

[azure nimbus]

Mostly stock sounds and Bobby Price messing with objects

[vast reef]

yea

[steel lion]

What wads would you recommend that aren't too hard

[vast reef]

like final doom tier or on par with doom 2

[steel lion]

Yeah around doom 2's difficulty

Maybe even TNT

[vast reef]

earlier scythe 2 ig

[steel lion]

Ok thanks!

[halcyon willow]

yeah that's the unity port

that's a credit scene specific to that release

[vast reef]

i wonder what the hardest doom 1 wad is

[blazing narwhal]

does anyone know how to play doom 1 cooperative with remote play thing on steam?

like when i played the game with my friend we were always player 1 for some reason

[vast reef]

use zandronum or odamex instead

[blazing narwhal]

oh

ok

[red token]

Alien Vendetta is for me a love/hate campaign

I love the aesthetic and some levels, but sometimes it feels frustrating. I must take some time before continuing with another level when I finish one because it's exhausting

[silent remnant]

I've never gotten Remote Play to work for Doom. Works for every other game I use it for, just not Doom

[finite crag]

Looking for good doom mods that i can make videos on in my channel.
I got this ongoing series called Doom WAD Reviews where i play them and share my opinion about them.

[sweet widget]

i love classic doom

[patent umbra]

same

[vague idol]

Is it possible to enable freelook on doom 1993 on the xbox?

[azure nimbus]

no

[vague idol]

lmao

[azure nimbus]

doom is 2 dollars on steam. While no freelook is available there, you can use its files in sourceports and enable freelook from there

[silent remnant]

You could but why

[azure nimbus]

for youtube thumbnails. Otherwise, idk why you'd use freelook. Maybe gzdoom stuff ig

[dense plinth]

A lotta gzdoom mods kinda depend on freelook to work well

Especially if they add recoil

[solid crest]

Hey, I am planning to make a doom clone/boomer shooter like doom it's going to be a western. what do you think of it? Would you play it?

[drifting mortar]

anyone wanna do doom 1, 2, plutonia and tnt on zandronum?

[cerulean delta]

What are you looking at for inspiration? There’s 2 doom mods, Fistful of Doom and Bastards TC, as well as a game called Outlaws.

[drifting mortar]

never done classic doom before

so would be fun to play with someone, havent been able to find anyone

[solid crest]

the inspirations are from 2 movies rango and django I have never really watched a lot of western films and after seeing those I was really hooked.

[cerulean delta]

idgames archive is down, I got a “couldn’t connect to MySQL server” error

[solid crest]

I am not making it in gzdoom or anything I am going to make it in something else. It's not going to use dooms engine

[cerulean delta]

GZDoom is still a good engine if you wanna try it, it’s very malleable. But you could always try eDuke

[solid crest]

I have tried before a long time ago but I could not get anything to work slade was just not working

[cerulean delta]

Ultimate Doom Builder usually works better for that, although there’s also Unity

[solid crest]

I am planning to make it using my own engine actually

I might make it a raycaster just maybe

[zenith berry]

Just some question, if you know how to make DOOM maps, should making one for Build Engine be easy, too?

There will be differences though of course such as on how the Build Engine is able to handle floor over floor.

[plucky wyvern]

I was slowly falling asleep then I heard the sfx that plays when an archvile spots you then I got jolted awake by that

[hexed escarp]

What modern megawad is best for coop

[sweet widget]

seancon.wad

[patent umbra]

+rep that wad is great especially the boss in the middle of the episode

[halcyon willow]

Build engine is wildly different.

Not even remotely similar to doom stuff

[molten coral]

Controvertial opinion
The healer stalks is also a very good track

Like sure it's the "my one map wad is over" theme but i enjoy because its just a simple and catchy tune

[vast reef]

the healer stalks is my go-to background music for school projects

[molten coral]

It's just a good map 2 theme

[zenith berry]

The second being TNT’s.

Of course, The Imp’s Song remains the OG.

[dense plinth]

finished thy flesh consumed on ultra violence

[red token]

Like Outlaws, cool

[solid crest]

oh, cool find

[red token]

Has anybody played Sunlust? I love it so much, but sometimes it's fucking hard

[zenith berry]

Sometimes

[molten coral]

True!

[azure nimbus]

SL is iconic. ye

[upper crypt]

Top 5 Doom 2 soundtracks:

1. DOOM
2. Getting Too Tense
3. In the Dark
4. Message for the Archvile
5. The Demons Dead

[remote cedar]

I would personally put The Demon's Dead in 2nd and swap out Getting Too Tense for The Dave D. Taylor Blues

I would also swap out Message For The Archvile for Running From Evil

[void hemlock]

for me its more like this

1. Into Sandy's City
2. Between Levels
3. Running From Evil
4. Bye Bye American Pie
5. Adrian's Asleep

There is something so great about Into Sandy's City, probably because of that harpischord that was introduced within the OST giving that normal city aesthetic, then the guitar kicks in and it's realized there are demons terrorizing the streets

[remote cedar]

I should make a doom ost tier list tbh

I found one online. I'll share it to you guys once I'm done.

[finite crag]

Best classic doom OST track is between levels

Sadistic is also good but idk if it counts

[zenith berry]

It’s part of Final DOOM so it counts.

[hexed escarp]

For me it would be

1. Into Sandy's city
2. Shawn's got the shotgun
3. Message for the archvile
4. The Dave d Taylor blues
5. Bye bye American pie

[zenith berry]

I’ve been playing DOOM II since 2021 and it took me only weeks ago to discover that there’s a switch that lets you turn on the lights in the dark hallway located next to the entrance.

That’s in Map04, anyways.

[azure nimbus]

it took me so long to realize that that switch has nothing to do progression

[remote cedar]

Alright here it is. Tier list time https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/126733860674338816/1126192737964802109/image.png

(Tiers are unordered btw)

[hexed escarp]

Into Sandy's city being on c teir is heresy

[misty loom]

Oh uh

I kinda blanked out after completing dis for like the 5th time

Well

Now I know where that image of daisy impaled on a spike came from

[finite crag]

you did sweet little dead bunny dirty it should be higher

e1m1 at A????

[remote cedar]

Yeah it's good

[remote cedar]

Nah it really doesn't sound that good

I could bump it up a tier though

[hexed escarp]

Can you send a link to this teir list so I can make my version?

[remote cedar]

oh yeah I said I would do that. lemme get it again

[hexed escarp]

Bruh

[remote cedar]

Dammit Vega

[hexed escarp]

Dm?

[remote cedar]

sent

[hexed escarp]

Thx

[remote cedar]

It honestly kinda sucks how I can't send the link to the tier list maker

[cerulean delta]

I feel like I’m going crazy playing MyHouse again

I don’t remember it having the Heretic water splashing effects last time I played it

It plays the splash noise when I step into the water in Underhalls, and also whenever I fill the sinks

Does anyone else have this?

[remote cedar]

Yes that's part of the map

[hexed escarp]

whats the best modern megawad for coop?

or just a good one

[finite crag]

how do i fix the crunchiness of the og game's textures that isn't 'get gzdoom you nerd'

running the steam version right now and it looks quite crunchy

[sweet widget]

doom renderer moment

[vale gyro]

You could try out Crispy Doom and look in the crispiness menu and see if you like that?

Sorry if I’m not much help

[finite crag]

seen that answer too

[vale gyro]

Well you can’t really do anything with the Unity port

[finite crag]

you're fine, it's just i've seen a lot of videos on the doom unity port and it looks just like crispy doom

[hexed escarp]

unfortunately you cant really do anything about this, this is just how dooms software renderer works

[finite crag]

so i'm wondering how they got there

[patent umbra]

why wont u get gzdoom its epic

[vale gyro]

Because not everyone likes GZDoom?

[hexed escarp]

unless you are using gzdoom or dsda-doom or any other port with a hardware renderer, you cant really fix it

[finite crag]

i am holding a crusade against gzdoom for no reason and i'm not stopping now

oh hardware rendering fixes it

[hexed escarp]

i personally dont like playing with a hardware renderer bc it looks too different

[patent umbra]

use ZDoom then 👍

[hexed escarp]

unity doesnt have a hardware renderer tho

[finite crag]

yeah

[hexed escarp]

if you share my zdoom allergy, then you can try dsda-doom

[finite crag]

if that's how it is, then how does this work

[vale gyro]

I think Woof might have a hardware renderer if you did like some of the stuff Crispy Doom had (colored blood, literally the main reason I use Crispy Doom)

[finite crag]

the video i'm talking about is by dwars, and the video looks crisp af without an explanation

[vale gyro]

iirc, he uses Crispy Doom as his main port

[finite crag]

so there may be a way

well the video was about the unity port

[hexed escarp]

crispy-doom also uses software renderer

[finite crag]

so he was definitely running the unity port

[hexed escarp]

nope, it also uses software renderer

[sleek tusk]

can someone help me

[finite crag]

uh idk

guess not

[vale gyro]

Welp, sorry for my mistake in that case

I’m a professional idiot so yeah

[vale gyro]

I can try to help

[finite crag]

okay i'm just confused rn because he had the unity port open (as i could see in the menus) and the supposed software rendering looked quite hardware rendered

[sleek tusk]

i was completing a run of ultra nightmare and i got to supergore nest

[hexed escarp]

this is the channel for classic doom

[sleek tusk]

and when i died i was sent back to hell on earth

[hexed escarp]

ask in the doom eternal channel

[finite crag]

troll'd

[sleek tusk]

and all my progress was gone

[hexed escarp]

thats what ultra nightmare is

[finite crag]

does blud know what ultra nightmare is

[hexed escarp]

its a permadeath difficulty, you have to beat it in one shot

[sleek tusk]

if you die you restart to the begining of that mission

[finite crag]

no?

[hexed escarp]

in other difficulties yes, but the point of ultra nightmare is that you have to beat it without dying

[finite crag]

in other difficulties it's at the checkpoint

[hexed escarp]

also, this is the channel for the old doom games, if you have questions related to doom eternal in the future, ask in the doom eternal channel

[finite crag]

but anyway this isn't classic doom let's go back

[hexed escarp]

ah right

[sleek tusk]

it says you can save your campaign appon completing a misson

[finite crag]

#doom-eternal

[hexed escarp]

^^^^^^

[vale gyro]

Anyways

[finite crag]

so idk if i can link the vid i'm talking about

just a sneaky little https://youtu.be/I1Zje_LlTxM

no not the widget

you're giving me away

[hexed escarp]

what part looks hardware?

[hexed escarp]

???

[finite crag]

byeah the rendering looks crystal gear in the vid

[finite crag]

(joke)

[hexed escarp]

what port are you using currently?

[finite crag]

steam

the one in the vid

[hexed escarp]

ah

wait are you playing the dosbox version by accident?

[finite crag]

don't think so

[hexed escarp]

steam comes with a dosbox version and the unity port

[vale gyro]

Does it come up with a prompt at the start?

[finite crag]

it's got the add-ons menu if that helps

[vale gyro]

Like CMD?

[finite crag]

no

[vale gyro]

You are using Unity

[finite crag]

so i am running the unity port yea

[vale gyro]

Unity Port has always looked clear

[finite crag]

it's wide-screen as well

well i can't send a screenshot now

[vale gyro]

#screenshots?

[finite crag]

i can't anyway because of channel perms

i mean i guess it doesn't look that grainy?

don't have anything to compare it to

[vale gyro]

This sounds dumb but maybe check the settings?

I am not familiar with the port as I’ve been using Crispy Doom for the past year maybe?

[finite crag]

i've glossed over the settings a couple times

vsync, fps, all that stuff

nothing that looks like it'll do anything with the graphics tho

[vale gyro]

I would say your best bet is just switch over to something like dsda

As I’m not exactly familiar with all of this

Even then, dsda would probably give you way more options when it comes to maps

[finite crag]

alr

[vale gyro]

Yeah, it would, it does have complevel as a console command

[azure nimbus]

DSDA is far easier to work with than it might seem from the outside. You unzip the zip file, set your keybinds(probably the defaults are good if you're on mouse and key), set the resolution, and you're ready

[remote cedar]

That is very true

don't forget to drag and drop your wads when you wanna play

including the iwad

[dense plinth]

I've never used dsda before

Isn't it just the speedrunning port?

[vale gyro]

The only reason I don’t use it as I’m happy with Crispy and Woof when I need to play a Boom map or something that Crispy just can’t

[hexed escarp]

it has many useful features for speedrunning but its a great general use port

its basically a continuation of prboom plus since that isnt recieving support anymore

[dense plinth]

Ahh I see

Neat

[upper crypt]

Why is Getting Too Tense in D tier, it’s a good track that makes you pumped up. Map 28 should’ve been the penultimate level

[remote cedar]

I don't like how it sounds

[upper crypt]

Both have good solos but I like MFTA more

[hexed escarp]

has anybody ever noticed that some of the music in tnt has weird tempo misalignment on some notes?

a song where this is most noticeable for me is soldier of chaos

[hexed escarp]

i saw this plutonia meme a while ago and i cannot for the life of me find it for some reason

it was called 'the plutonia experience'

the music is countdown to death from doom 2

and its the meme of the weeknd during his superbowl show where he is walking thru the mirror maze and holding the camera but the background is a twisting hallway with the plutonia emerald texture for walls, and then one wall opens behind him with 10000 revenants and chaingunners and then the video cuts off

does anybody else remember this video and know where i can find it?

i might be wrong about the title

[cerulean delta]

Don’t even have to do that if you’re using a launcher like ZDL or Doom Explorer

[vast reef]

the song facing the spider is based on is really fucking good though

[dense plinth]

playing sigil, on E5M4, anyone know what this invulnerability sphere is for by any chance?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642304323560407044/1126411100250968083/image.png

it's when you take the rightmost pathway just before you fight the baron

you can't get up there till after you beat the baron though, unless you manage to zip past him

and placement wise it feels too far away to be useful anywhere else

[upper crypt]

Did you know in Wormhole there’s a missing flute in the background

[upper crypt]

Idk if it’s just me but in Into Sandy’s City I swear I hear the beginning of Facing the Spider

[vast reef]

how

you mean the single chord at the start?

[dense plinth]

oh wait nvm I think I get what it could be used for

the middle pathway where the platforms fall into the lava, since there's no rad suit

[upper crypt]

Yes

Just have a listen to the two

[azure nimbus]

If you follow the path on the right, you'll have a drop down thing. Turn right

[dense plinth]

thanks, but I already knew how to get to it

[hexed escarp]

if i modified the genmidi lump from the doom iwad, could i make the opl drums less puny?

[opal ferry]

Hello @everyone I'm new And I need help finding a working zombie fodder mod.

[opal ferry]

Sense the realm667 One doesn't work.

[azure nimbus]

what do you mean by a zombie fodder mod

[opal ferry]

Adding a new monster Which is basically like An actual zombie.

[nocturne kelp]

No mod?

I mean like brutal doom

Pure original

[vast reef]

yeah

why does it matter

mods don't change map layout

[dense plinth]

Crispy Doom

Since sigil doesn't work in Chocolate

[nocturne kelp]

Ok

[dense plinth]

Shoulda taken the screenshot from the top of the elevator right in front of the sphere

Since my question was for what was the point of it even being there, which I also figured out anyway

Not how do I get to it

[molten coral]

Trying out the early doom 2 maps

they sure are wacky

[cerulean delta]

The vanilla maps? Or you mean early Doom 2 WADs?

[molten coral]

The ones Romero shared on DoomWorld

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72509-more-goodies-from-romero-doomed-source-maps-graphics/
These

Tried a bit of ultra violence and already there's a Revenant in Underhall's little red key hut

[zenith berry]

DOOM II was basically Plutonia before Plutonia.

The first hallway of Entryway already had Pinkies.

[honest scaffold]

[molten coral]

I counted like atleast 5

1 in the zombieman hallway
2 in the room with the secret armour
1 in the room with the imp lift
and 2 more in the shotgun area

Oh also one in the exit switch

[zenith berry]

Or I could also say, the predecessor of DOOM Eternal's Master Levels (not the DOOM II one)

[molten coral]

Been playing the Syringe wad through the unity port

damn its hard

I'm thinking of doing a small series of just doing ultra violence through the maps with pistol start

[hexed escarp]

Being a teenager who likes classic doom is really annoying sometimes because it’s hard to find other people my age that also are interested in it

[cerulean delta]

Wonder what the odds are of Perdition’s Gate getting added to the Unity port

Seems like they’re not adding the classic megaWADs (Scythe, Alien Vendetta, Hell Revealed, Requiem, etc.)

[worn ibex]

Newbie playing through Doom 1 for the first time. E4M2 is so, so brutal...

[zenith berry]

https://twitter.com/NTDEV_/status/1677442292007723011?s=20

NTDEV (@NTDEV_)

The most bare-metal way to run a game, inside the system kernel.

Running DOOM inside the Windows kernel https://t.co/aEvRUbDMuO

Twitter · Jul 7, 2023, 10:19 PM

[dusky sierra]

Guys I've been playing this mod hellrider in doom, and whilst I went to the settings I saw thing option called "allow sliding" so I turned it on but I don't know how to use it.

I went to reviews of the mod and I indeed saw sliding action, but I don't know what button does it.

I even went to keybinds and there isn't any mention of a sliding button

[vale gyro]

I feel you

[tepid tulip]

I find E4M2 fun even if it's a challenging map

[vast reef]

hi

also imo

their age doesn't matter

you still get to talk with people who are into the game

[spice radish]

Never heard of this mod but I would assume it would be like most games? While running press crouch

Since this is a mod just enable crouching in GZDoom

[dusky sierra]

Nope

[glad heart]

as a teenager, i have permission from my parents to play doom

[vast reef]

imagine needing permission from your parents to play video games

[glad heart]

hm

yeah

[tacit remnant]

how does the multiplayer/coop mods work, does it have their own server to find match or do you have to invite friends manually?

[vast reef]

on steam?

if you mean zandronum, it works like minecraft

you host a server, people join with the server browser (doomseeker)

you want it to be private, use a password

[tacit remnant]

oh okay, thanks man

[late venture]

just set up midi packs gor plutonia

And cant even get through map 1 in uv

aaaand i decided to pistol start each level cuz i would die anyways

[vast reef]

forgot to mention you can host a server with allfearthesentinel.com

[tacit remnant]

is there a way to manage between gzdoom and zandronoum or can you have both at the same time and swithc between them as you like?

[vast reef]

yes, you can have them both simultaneously

their saves don't interfere with each other

[dusky sierra]

Guys I've been playing this mod hellrider in doom, and whilst I went to the settings I saw thing option called "allow sliding" so I turned it on but I don't know how to use it.

I went to reviews of the mod and I indeed saw sliding action, but I don't know what button does it.

I even went to keybinds and there isn't any mention of a sliding button

[night hearth]

Does anyone here know stuff about hideous destructor? Reply/ping so I get a notification please

[vast reef]

what do you need to know

[night hearth]

The main rifle, the simple black one, starts to just not work

Like eventually the next round won't cycle

[vast reef]

DM'd you a better place to ask

[night hearth]

Ok

[dusky sierra]

I know this is oddly specific but are there any wads or mods where the gameplay is somewhat considerably slow, not too many enemies, but they nearly one shot you in every attack?

[molten coral]

Hideous destructor

[dusky sierra]

thx

[pastel aspen]

I jave doom II on my switch lite

[ornate vortex]

I'm gonna try and have a crack at Sunder map 2 today

[dense plinth]

damn, I think Romero prepared for what I was gonna do for map 6 of sigil

there's an invulnerability sphere in a secret that's not too far before the cyberdemon maze, so I was gonna backtrack to it to use it for the cyberdemon, except the path gets completely blocked off

[azure nimbus]

you can pick it up after you open the exit, or just grab it first and run fast. He's a devious one

[hexed escarp]

if i want to be able to play at least some of sunlust on ultra violence, what do i need to do to get to that point of skill

so far, ive beaten up to map19 of eviternity on hmp continuous and map09 of eviternity on uv pistol-start and map20 of plutonia on uv pistol-start

[narrow condor]

I'm sure you can beat the first few maps on UV.

You can try Ribbiks's easier mapsets also.

After that I'd do HMP runs of each Sunlust map until I'm confident enough to attempt UV.

[hexed escarp]

I’d like to be able to experience it blind in its fullest form

I’m not looking to play it saveless

[narrow condor]

In that case, I recommend sticking to his other mappacks to get an idea of his mapping style until you feel confident.

[hexed escarp]

Ok

What are some good other ones he’s made that are easier

[narrow condor]

Stardate 20X6 isn't too bad, for one.

[hexed escarp]

Ok

[narrow condor]

Stardate 20X7 is significantly harder.

Crumpets is also fun with (comparatively) accessible bite-sized maps.

[hexed escarp]

What other wads should I play to help level up my skill

[hexed escarp]

OHHH BRUH

I just now understood the name stardate 20x6

I was confused before

I was calling it stardate twenty by six in my head

But it’s supposed to be implying that it takes place in the 6th year of the xth decade of the 2nd millenium

Or 3rd

You know what I mean

It took me hearing decino pronouncing it as twenty x-ty six for me to get it

[ruby crater]

It does not mean that traditionally in sci fi

Using X for a date usually means you can substitute any year for it and it would work, so Stardate20X6 means any variation of the year between 2006-2096 in theory

It is used to give a bit of implied vagueness in the exact dating of your story

For “creative wiggle room”

But I could be wrong and your interpretation might be the correct one Ribbiks had in mind

[atomic stirrup]

This is the best to doom debate me

[zenith berry]

I had a dream about MyHouse.wad but it was kinda different.

There were keycards placed around the exit area of the backrooms for some reason, and there were new areas such as a hallway of doors.

The latter was dark, illuminated only by the lighting coming from the windows resembling those seen in the brutalist area.

[tepid tulip]

Very important question, if I played on Crispy Doom can I still load in custom midi packs?

Bc I'm gonna play AV vanilla

With the Alien Vendetta MIDI Pack

Okay it does work, but it's not the right sound chip

I'm just gonna play this on dsda, I really don't like how puny the music sounds in crispy doom, if someone could help me out or say if it's possible to change the sound chip to sc55 let me know

[tepid tulip]

I took care of it already

[atomic violet]

Anyone want to doom 2 with me please I need only one trophy for platinum in ps4. Sent me a friend request anytime in discord. You help me I help you

[tacit remnant]

i have a question, so i'm playing brutal doom v21 and everytime i jump, the slayer makes the ugh sound, is this normal or anyone know how to fix it?

[hexed escarp]

Yeah I think this makes the most sense

[vast reef]

that's normal afaik, quake does it too

[tacit remnant]

Do you also play brutal doom?, if yes which brutal doom mods do you usually play?

[vast reef]

brutal doom platinum last time

[remote cedar]

Hey guys I'm trying to find a wad that includes Modern Doom sound effects for everything in Classic Doom, would you happen to know a wad that does that?

[vast reef]

if you have access to the sound files, making it in slade should be easy

[remote cedar]

I mean yeah but I just wanna know if it already exists

[vast reef]

don't think so

[azure nimbus]

Its difficulty is somewhat exaggerated because it reached a wider audience than any of Ribbik's other stuff. I think you can handle it. At worst, you beat the first several levels. Maybe map10 will be tricky. Personally, I found sunlust easier than Stardate. They could go either way. SL is tough, but I think you can do it

[zenith berry]

DOOM 4 Vanilla?

[remote cedar]

I'm not sure what you mean by that

[zenith berry]

It's a vanilla-compatible mod that 2016-ifies the classic games, so most of the sounds are replaced by their 2016 counterparts.

[remote cedar]

Interesting. I'll have to check that out.

[hexed escarp]

Yeah it's cool, it modifies the weapons and enemies to be like the doom 2016 versions

[oak ridge]

Any good wads people recommend for intermediate players? A lot of the maps Decino plays are too much for me rn lol

[rich imp]

Valiant is alright in this regard. The modified pistol and chaingun help you a lot. Also reduce your difficulty if you feel it's too much, don't get cocky with yourself.

No Rest For The Living might also be up the alley. Overall do account though modded tends to raise the challenge.

[azure nimbus]

those, scythe2, speed of doom, Antaresian Legacy/Reliquary great choices. if those are too hard for now, try The Lost Magic

[rich imp]

I would even mention Eviternity but feeling some of the maps might feel too much to an intermediate level

[sweet widget]

seancon.wad

[oak ridge]

Thanks so much everyone 😄

[hexed escarp]

do the cacowards have like an awards ceremony of some sort

or does the article just get published

[vale gyro]

Maybe overboard???

[ruby crater]

I have loved my adventures through Stardate 20X6, very well-done mapset and not super difficult imo

[upbeat sphinx]

Hi, I'm trying to play My House wad on WiiDoom but when I select the difficulty the game stops working :( Someone could help me?

[hexed escarp]

is sunder the hardest megawad?

[finite crag]

Wiidoom is a port of prboom

[dense plinth]

Myhouse is best played on GZDoom iirc

That's the port it was made for

[upbeat sphinx]

Yeah I wanted to play the game on CRT but I ended playing it on pc

Thanks for your answers! I'm new on this ^^

[broken hatch]

I'm trying to add custom wads (like Golden Souls Remastered) to steam (on my Steam Dec)k so I can add artwork and launch it seperately from regular doom. does anyone know how to do this?

[hexed escarp]

You can’t add custom wads to the steam version

You must use a source port

The steam deck os is based off of a Linux distribution called arch linux so you can use any source port compatible with that

[dusky sierra]

I've been playing Zdoom without audio for so long.

Help???

I can't hear gun noises or monster noises.

Only music

[zenith berry]

Check your audio options, make sure sound effects aren’t set to very low.

Also you should use GZDoom instead of ZDoom, the former is still being maintained actively to this day.

[spice radish]

Your new to Doom modding? In that case if you ever want to play a WAD that on the download page has a recommended source port (like MyHouse saying GZDoom) always use that source port

[halcyon elm]

you can, but they have to be vanilla wads

[halcyon elm]

try to install gzdoom and a launcher like zdl, then add the launcher to your steam library

[ornate vortex]

yeah, hardest well known megawad (considering the defintion suggests there’s 20 or more maps in total)

old sunder is a little easier than sunlust but the newer maps are a league of their own

[hexed escarp]

No, you can only add the wads that they have put into the addons menu, you can’t add your own

[vast reef]

there's a way to do that lol

[hexed escarp]

Oh huh

[vast reef]

nvm wrong link, i can't find that forum post

but there was definitely a way to do so

you just needed to modify the wad file

somebody got alien vendetta and scythe 2 on it

@hexed escarp https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/128689-custom-wads-on-unity-port/

[hexed escarp]

Interesting

Well then forget everything I said lmao

[dense plinth]

I'm on the final level of sigil, but man this really is a good wad

the penultimate level is probably one of if not the best level out of all of them

[zenith berry]

What about Hell Revealed?

[broken hatch]

I done that much I was wishing I could make a shortcut or something to run a specific mod but I guess you can't do that on deck unforenately

[void hemlock]

Yeah the whole wad really does feel like a true episode 5, and ends even better than episode 4’s imo

Sigil is canon imo

[halcyon elm]

you could make a bat file for a certain wad, that would help

[broken hatch]

I saw that but the thing is idk if bats would work on steam deck

[halcyon elm]

if it runs windows then surely it has to work

if it's the linux thing there's definitely a way to make it work, linux can do some crazy stuff

[broken hatch]

Ok, how do I get bats to run a wad

[hexed escarp]

They wouldn't bc steam deck is linux

[vast reef]

do you know basic cmd

[hexed escarp]

But the Linux equivalent is a .sh file

[vast reef]

just use bash then

or does steam deck os use something else

[hexed escarp]

Steam deck os is based off of arch linux

[broken hatch]

You know how to set it up with it? I did make a .sh to launch gzdoom so this should work

But idk how you would get it to open a wad

[vast reef]

can't you configure arch to use a different shell though

[vast reef]

-file ${wad_path}

[broken hatch]

Ok I'll give it a shoot

[broken hatch]

I couldn't figure it out, but is there a way to put a mod in the doom 2 wad

[vast reef]

?

don't forget -iwad

also afaik the path has to be in quotation marks

[dusky sierra]

GOD I KILLED A BARON OF HELL WITH 4% HP USING ONLY MY FIST (NO BERSERK)

IT TOOK WAY TOO LONG

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1123251585942827081/1128377401458573312/image.png?width=1202&height=676

[molten coral]

Awesome

[gaunt scroll]

insane

[dusky sierra]

I was also using only keyboard, since my mouse is temporarily broken

[vast reef]

god damn

[dusky sierra]

I have never felt so good

[halcyon elm]

this has to count as some sort of self inflicted torture

[dusky sierra]

I lost my mind...

At 20 minutes I was thinking of using cheats.

At 40 minutes I laughed for like no reason

At 60 minutes I cried

I think it took me around 2 hours or something.

But by the end of it... I already went through all the stages of grief.

[ornate vortex]

Sunder is harder than hell revealed

hell revealed if we’re talking the first one is as hard as alien vendetta

the second on the other hand is probably as hard as old sunder

what i’m tryna say is that sunder’s new maps are insanely hard (even harder than sunlust imo)

[dusky sierra]

They're fun though

I think every good doom player should experience it once, because currently sunder is my favourite wad.

[ornate vortex]

i’m currently playing through old sunder

[dusky sierra]

What version if you could get specific

[ornate vortex]

like the 2009 version

the version with 14 maps

[dusky sierra]

Ohhh

I think that's version...

0

Straight up, because it was released on 14

[vast reef]

sunder map 19

[ornate vortex]

i’m tryna uv-max speedrun sunder map 2

and it’s not going so well, I find most of the time I die to that one sniper cyberdemon that guards the switch

90% of the time it doesn’t want to infight

[dusky sierra]

Map 2 the burrow, is my go to map whenever I have free time.

Whenever I feel stressed I set the difficulty to hurt me plenty just to lay back a little

[ornate vortex]

I find the beginning part is easy, the point up to the hell knights, and then afterwards it gets slightly harder

[dusky sierra]

Try teasing it, infighting only works on demons that already walked a couple steps.

[ornate vortex]

the cybers are a pain and the revenants are also a pain

but zero master’s speedrun showed me a cool trick that really helps in the final area

you can basically just use a revenant as a shield for the homing rockets if you get it into its melee state

[dusky sierra]

Surprisingly arch-viles aren't that much of a huge deal for me in Sunder compared to other slaughter maps

I could relate with the revenants

[ornate vortex]

the viles aren’t so bad

they usually die to infighting anyways

[dusky sierra]

Very hot take that could get me killed.

Zombiemen are more annoying than viles

[ornate vortex]

depends on the situation

[dusky sierra]

But maybe its because I play nightmare.

[ornate vortex]

if you’re low on health then yes, a zombieman is dangerous

but viles are annoying most of the time

they can zap you from an infinite range if you’re unlucky with infighting and the fact they resurrect enemies is frustrating in most combat scenarios

[dusky sierra]

They slowly drain your health, but you don't want to waste ammo on them.

Meanwhile viles aren't super common, and at most the worst they could do is respawning a tanky enemy for me.

Their attacks are powerful, but find a wall and some shotgun shells and they're finished.

Some maps abuse this by intentionally making vile encounters be in a flat area with few walls.

[ornate vortex]

nosp viles

they can resurrect pretty much anything, other viles, cyberdemons

[dusky sierra]

Not everything

Lost souls

[dusky sierra]

I don't think cyberdemons could

It also can't resurrect pain elementals, ik that

And no vile deaths are permanent

Unless someone modded it to be harder, viles don't resurrect everything.

[ornate vortex]

This is nosp we're talking about

[dusky sierra]

Ohhh

Sorry I thought you meant vanilla lol

[dusky sierra]

I might be wrong, but aren't lost souls still are unable to be resurrected even in NoSp?

I'm pretty sure they don't since unlike other enemies, they don't have a death state.

And are just removed once killed

[molten coral]

Yeah they don't leave a corpse

Neither do pain elementals

[dusky sierra]

So yeah, arch-viles don't 100% resurrect everything

Even in NoSp configs

[molten coral]

I mean they could resurrect a pain elemental but they dont leave a corpse behind unless they're crushes

[azure nimbus]

they can be revived in nosp2. I have video from my nosp2 map10 if you want. lots of pains and lost souls in there

[ruby crater]

Nosp?

[azure nimbus]

There are three NoSp mapsets. I've played all of NoSp2 and a bit over half of NoSp3 but not the first. It stands for "NoReason's(the author) speedmaps" or possibly "NoRe's nth speedmapping session". It has some dehacked changes like letting viles revivve everyone

[vale kettle]

i have 2 monitors so when i play doom 2 for some bizzare reason, i move around my mouse to turn left but then my cursor goes left, off the screen, and i have to put it back to where im playing doom 2

any fix to this?

[dense plinth]

completed Sigil on UV

now to wait for Sigil II whenever that releases

[vocal summit]

the dosbox version or the rerelease?

[vale kettle]

nvm false alarm

[glass anchor]

what are the dimensions of the doom guys hands i need to make a doom mod

[cerulean delta]

Apparently someone made myhouse.wad in GMOD

(Also managed to get a Tinder date to play MyHouse, he was pretty blown away lol)

[odd granite]

E3M9 has to be the funniest secret in DOOM, I thought the game bugged for a second when I entered the level lol

[lethal sedge]

Looks like it's intention is still working well in 2023!

[odd granite]

Like I entered it the first time I played it and also got appalled but I'm replaying Ultimate DOOM and just forgot about it LOL

Yup, classic Sandy Peterson troll

[odd granite]

it's been 30 years and the game hasn't aged a bit

[cedar wyvern]

Technically its a software

[glass anchor]

What are the dimensions for doom guy's hands like width and height

[azure nimbus]

Maybe you could find info on Kevin Cloud (he modeled doomguy's arms)

[hexed escarp]

I think maybe he means of the sprite images

[ornate vortex]

there’s a simple solution

just go into slade and export the sprite

[zenith berry]

should I get "UHD Doom"?

[lofty wharf]

hey guys

I had one question, can someone hep me download classic doom with hd quality?

[void hemlock]

what do you mean by that?

doom with high quality textures/sounds?

[zenith berry]

There are plenty of HD texture mods for DOOM, but one was made for science.

[hexed escarp]

i wish i was good enough to be able to appreciate the beautiful views of sunder

[ornate vortex]

I was the same tbh, I thought i’d never have the skills required to beat sunder

but now i’m at the stage where i’ve beaten rush, crumpets and some other fairly tough wads and as a way to go up the difficulty curve, i’m trying my luck with sunded

and the first 3 maps aren’t actually so bad

map 3 is more grindy than it is difficult imo and that goes for quite a lot of sunder maps

[rich imp]

On Sunder honestly only screw Map 5

Even when it has an epic OST

And it's honestly not exactly the platforming itself, but rather the physics, even a milimetre away can screw you and you won't even be aware about it

[ornate vortex]

im not looking forward to maxing sunder map 5

sunder map 2 is hard already considering the cyberdemons refuse to infight and cooperate like 75% of the time

plus after sunder map 2 ive got to max fire and ice

which itself is an insane map

[hexed escarp]

Does insane gazebo have plans to continue after he releases map21? Or is that the last one

[ornate vortex]

I think he plans to get out a 32 map megawad

so yeah, there's gonna be more after map 21

[hexed escarp]

Cool

I'm scared to see what map30 will look like if it happens

[dull snow]

He's been working on it slowly but surely

[hexed escarp]

Why does dsda only have old sunder

The site, not the port

[ornate vortex]

from what i’ve heard (and I might be wrong), his computer couldn’t handle the massive maps he made back in 2009 and so he couldn’t continue making maps. Therefore he released the old 14 maps and ultimately got burnt out for nearly a decade

but why it’s on there, idk

[narrow condor]

I'm guessing because the old Sunder is considered finished, whereas the new Sunder is still WIP.

[azure nimbus]

old sunder is finalized. New sunder is still subject to change

[hexed escarp]

Ah, makes sense

[lone schooner]

I played doom on a Barrett M82 A1

[loud cave]

Good work soldier

[vale gyro]

They can slay demons in Doom while slaying the demons under their bed… Multitasking at its finest

[void hemlock]

then later after they sleep they have a sleep paralysis demon

[loud cave]

Kill that too

[candid mauve]

doom 2 is a lot harder than i thought it would be

i thought id be able to jump straight into UV but nope

[hexed escarp]

i wish that there was a better way to explain to my non doom friends that the music i listen to is community made doom midis

[vast reef]

"it's fanmade tracks, some of them are just renditions of existing songs"

easy

[hexed escarp]

its less the fanmade part, its the doom midi part

[candid mauve]

i barely made it through tricks and traps and im giving up at the next level for now

gonna turn it down to hmp

[vast reef]

"i listen to fanmade soundtracks for doom levels"

[hexed escarp]

ig

[vast reef]

anyway, what's your favorite soundfont for doom?

[hexed escarp]

sc-55

in anything else, the guitar is garbage

[vast reef]

based lmao

[hexed escarp]

the default microsoft one is decent as well but sc-55 is better

[finite crag]

Windows gs wavetable synth is horrible

It's just weak sc-55
Literally

[hexed escarp]

yeah fair

[finite crag]

I hate the sound of it

I used to hate Gus but I found out that the ports just suck at it if it's included
Eawpats is good enough lol

Try buying a good gravis it'll only be in the thousands

And if I were to get one I'd have to get specific models because the earlier ones have horrible sound blaster support I think

So then you'd have to just buy a sound blaster lmao

Although a nice opl3 card isn't a horrible idea

[candid mauve]

how do yall do tricks and traps for 100% kills?

[finite crag]

what port do you use

[vast reef]

prboom

[finite crag]

no i was thinking fot the tricks and traps one

if it's gzdoom don't lost souls count

i know there's like pain elementals so

[candid mauve]

dsda doom

[finite crag]

oh that's odd then

so it's not that

lemme see something

[candid mauve]

im more just asking like the route

not the literal mechanics of how to get 100% kills

[finite crag]

oh like for speedrunning or

[candid mauve]

just in general

doom 2 is really hard

i did all of doom 1 on UV with few issues (except E4) but im having to go down to hmp for doom 2 for now lol

[vast reef]

oh boy...

[candid mauve]

what

[vast reef]

when it comes to doom wad difficulty, doom 2 is near the bottom of the tier list

nothing to worry about though, i struggled too :D

[candid mauve]

one-shotting pinkies with the ssg is one of the most satisfying things ive ever done

also im pistol starting so that might be a bit of why it was escpecially difficult

[candid mauve]

theres so many monsters and not a lot of ammo

[azure nimbus]

ya gotta have a good order in mind for the rooms. I like to open the caco room so I can access the bfg. But the bfg is actually in the pinkys room. From there, I grab an invuln in the cyberdemon room, head to the baron+imp room for my second invuln. Now I can leave if I want, but for 100 %, I'll rush to the pain ele's with my invuln and bfg. If I run out of bfg, I use chaingun to stunluck the pains from my ammo hidey hole for extra safety. The rest is cleanup. It's one of the harder maps to 100 % for sure

[candid mauve]

yeah im thinking rush into the caco room for shotgun + bfg, go into the pinky room to actually get the bfg + ammo, clear out the cyberdemon room (with invuln + bfg if necessary), take down the hallway room with the chainsaw and then use bfg on the pain elementals

and then its just cleanup from there

does that sound reasonable

[candid mauve]

today i learned to NOT try to rocket launcher a pain elemental

[azure nimbus]

You might be doing this already, but I think you're new so I'll say anyway: let the cyber infight the barons. As you play more, you might rely less on hard rules like "no rocketing pains." It isn't always a great idea, but sometimes you need the damage

[candid mauve]

just got most kills on HMP so hopefully ill be able to do it on UV on my next playthrough

and yeah im letting the cyber infight

[azure nimbus]

progress

[candid mauve]

my current plan is to do a run on HMP, then a run on UV, then go back and UVmax doom 1 and then UVmax doom 2

then maybe get into speedrunning

i got a 9,.94 E1M1 nomo on doom 1 which im proud of

although thats not representative of most of the game since its just movement

[hexed escarp]

Are we ever gonna get a dean of doom sunlust?

[narrow condor]

When he retires, yes.

[violet mural]

Wait why?! i always try to kill pain elemental first, so i just rocket them most of the times! Is it a bad thing? I also play on UV if that matters.

[vale gyro]

If you screw up your timing, there is a high chance you’ll face rocket yourself due to a pain elemental spawning lost souls

[finite crag]

Guys idk who to tell but I just finished sunder uvmax

Feels good

[vast reef]

good job

would it be rude to ask for proof

wait is this new sunder or old sunder

[finite crag]

New one

Maps till 20

[finite crag]

Well I stream most of it for my wife on Facebook

[finite crag]

Are their any harder map packs than sunder ?

[vast reef]

dimensions

profane promiseland and okuplok are both single maps but are both BRUTAL

[ornate vortex]

I would also look at maps by Benjogami, they're usually quite on the hard side

For example, Toilet of the Gods

[finite crag]

Done okuplok

Took me 7 hours

Uv 100%

[vast reef]

wait never mind i assumed it was saveless

[finite crag]

Practiced it for a year

[vast reef]

respect

[finite crag]

My brother in christ I am not zero master

[ornate vortex]

What

you actually went out of your way to do okuplok!?

[finite crag]

Yep

Coincident an decino really inspired me to take it on

And*

Also done sunlust 100% no saves especially god machine twice

[ornate vortex]

Even i'm not experienced enough to beat God Machine Saveless

The hardest map i can do saveless is Fire and Ice

which is what i'm now having to speedrun

[finite crag]

Still impressive 👏🏻

I've been playing doom since I was 4

My elder brother made me play final doom plutonia map 32 go 2 it as the first game I've ever touched lmao

[ornate vortex]

I played through the IWADS like back in 2019

and then I discovered PWADS in late 2021

and pretty much ever since last year, my goal is to reach the pinnacle of doom skill

[finite crag]

Amen brother ❤️

[ornate vortex]

I've basically decided that Dimensions Map 3 uv max will be my last speedrun before I retire

[ornate vortex]

cheers man

[finite crag]

I'm gonna start dimensions

My wife actually loves watching me play doom so I play for her.

She's pretty good herself. Finished sunlust minus God machine be it on hey not too rough but still impressive

[ornate vortex]

HNTR is actually still kinda hard

it's much more manageable than UV, but it still offers a challenge

[finite crag]

Yep exactly

[azure nimbus]

if you can pull it off, I think it's perfectly fine to rocket pains. you just need to be careful. It's a good skill to have

[violet mural]

Guess i am lucky lol cuz the only times i got face rocketed is when fighting the archvile trying to hide behind something while firing rockets

[violet mural]

For me i don't think so it's skill lol but still i think the best method is to either rocket them from afar or just blast them with the ssg while super close to their face

[azure nimbus]

Everything is a skill. It can be dangerous to do and a lot of new players are dissuaded from doing it for that reason, but like you are doing, sometimes it's necessary

[violet mural]

In plutonia they throw a tons of stuff at you specially in uv and if i could i will just rocket as much demons as i can from afar

Specially pain elemental because i just hate lost souls sooo much

Like they would be the first thing i kill because of this deep hate i have for them lol

[hexed escarp]

im trying to play sunder even tho its really really really out of my league bc its fun to struggle with it

im doing no mid fight saves

or at least i will try

[junior geyser]

https://youtu.be/4lopQ6d7GM8 idk what dis is

https://youtu.be/G1cpdtj8qjk

[spice radish]

Seeing this thumbnail makes me wish Gearbox didn’t kill Duke Nukem

[hexed escarp]

lmao i just beat sunder map01 in around 5 segments with 1% health left

[junior geyser]

I’m actually starting to play classic doom on nightmare

Tho I am playing it on doom eternal so the pixels don’t look entirely good until you get close up and the music glitches out and overlaps with other songs and both play at the same time

[finite crag]

Why are you playing it in eternal

Also does eternal use the gravis soundfont OST like bfg

[remote cedar]

Do not play it on Eternal

Get the WAD files from the Doom Eternal internal files then play Classic Doom on a proper sourceport

Also, nightmare in Classic Doom? You've got guts my guy

[hexed escarp]

i wonder if we will ever get dean of doom sunder

[spice radish]

I really hope this isn’t your first time playing Classic Doom cause experiencing it through Eternal is a terrible way to play it

And on Nightmare difficulty no less

[azure nimbus]

first time I played classic was through eternal actually

[hexed escarp]

Is the gameplay of new sunder significantly different from old sunder?

[narrow condor]

I don't think so. It's just a bit more polished and less buggy, I believe.

Barring the new maps.

[junior geyser]

Thankfully it isn’t

I played the more polished version on Xbox

I had access to Xbox game pass so I just played whatever doom game I came across first which was doom 2016

Then I moved onto doom 1 & 2 then to 64 then to the more newer ones

[azure nimbus]

new is much harder

[atomic violet]

Any one want to do doom 2 with me?

[low ore]

does anyone know if it's possible to switch out the wad without starting a new game? I'm using lexicon which is a massive hub for wads but I'm not sure if it's possible to swap out the wad without the game exploding

[azure nimbus]

LIke while you're playing?

as in that exact moment? Probably not. But you can install new stuff then start a level

[halcyon willow]

you'll have to restart whatever port you're using

[hexed escarp]

can an archvile hurt a cyberdemon?

[narrow condor]

Yes, but only with its direct attack (20 HP). The splash damage has no effect.

It takes ages for an archvile to kill a cyberdemon.

[azure nimbus]

one of the weirder things with viles is how their attack is split up like that. Means that their attack can't gib a zombieman that they're targeting but can gib surrounding zombies

[dense plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642304323560407044/1130794394585403422/image.png

bruh

I missed 1 guy and I can't find him anywhere

[vale gyro]

Check it with a map editor maybe?

[dense plinth]

nvm, found em

group of spectres at the start

[finite crag]

Classic doom...

Intruguing... tell me more

[vale gyro]

what exactly?

[finite crag]

I dont know

how classic we talking

[vale gyro]

Doom 1 -> Final Doom

[finite crag]

is this server associated with bethesda?

[dense plinth]

a bit

[finite crag]

aye on nay

[finite crag]

as in..?

[dense plinth]

Bethesda owns the ip, that's the extent of it

[finite crag]

ah

[dense plinth]

the focus is on Doom, not any of Bethesda's other ip's

[finite crag]

I see

I see

[dense plinth]

Classic Doom refers to all titles pre Doom 64

[finite crag]

ah

I see

[dense plinth]

which is Doom 1 and Doom 2, with Final Doom just being more Doom 2 essentially

[finite crag]

Why is slowmode a thing?

[vale gyro]

just so spamming can’t happen

[finite crag]

Doom II was GOAT

[finite crag]

Yeah but it is for like, 5 secs

[vale gyro]

better than nothing

a 6 second delay between messages is a lot more manageable than no delay at all

[finite crag]

Anyways wheres the meme channel again?

[dense plinth]

none

[finite crag]

I am a memegod you see

[dense plinth]

no memes in this server

[finite crag]

It is my duty

[vale gyro]

then take it somewhere else

[dense plinth]

I'm not joking memes are not actually allowed in this server, it's in the rules

[finite crag]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transforming-jet-decepticons-truck-gif-16745131

That is how I feel

like optimus over there

[vale gyro]

but uhh random question, what’s the best way to deal with that one map in Overboard themed around cacos?

[finite crag]

A gif is not a meme, right?

[vale gyro]

can’t remember the name

[finite crag]

I don't remember names, one thing you should know about me. So um... Description?

[vale gyro]

lemme just search it up

[finite crag]

oh, ok. Thats cool with me

[dense plinth]

!meme

damn, guess I can't use the bot

[vale gyro]

it’s Cacotoa

[finite crag]

They cannot take memes from me...

Wait

[dense plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642304323560407044/1130810490596118569/image.png

[sick mist]

bet

[finite crag]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-tears-gif-25605273

What about gifs?

oh no

[dense plinth]

I've never gotten in trouble for using gifs

[sick mist]

As long as they are in context, not spammed and not just "meme gifs"

[finite crag]

what if the gif is a meme?

[dense plinth]

but I bet we wouldn't be allowed to spam them or anything

[finite crag]

oh

these guys really have no taste when it comes to making a server do they...

?

[sick mist]

!memes

[tiny rain]

I hope this helps you to understand why we limit memes so heavily in this community.

1. We want people to be here for DOOM and not for memes

In the past we had a population of users here which only wanted to throw some random memes into a specific channel. The health of the server suffered greatly from that and that's why we went so strict about it. Be here because you love DOOM and everything that comes with it and make sure there is some context if you post memes.

2. No oversight evolves into bigotry

Despite the fact that we have mods from multiple time zones to ensure this place is safe and enjoyable for everyone, there may be cases when we are not looking at the chat. If left unattended, the memes being posted will start to turn hateful, and it may take a few minutes for the moderation team to react.
We actively work to prevent this from happening.