classic-doom

[finite crag]

Sounds similar to RayCasting effects

[dapper flint]

Not impressed

Fish Lens gaming

[finite crag]

Ah

[dapper flint]

If you play you'll see but if you watch gameplay only looks like a insane fast best boomer shooter made

[finite crag]

Oh I couldn't play that. I've seen Doom 2 Speedruns and that would do me

[vast reef]

it's definitely super fast on prime sanctums or late-level cybergrind

[hexed escarp]

is it possible to turn off the screen shake when you shoot in prodeus?

im not the biggest fan of that

[vast reef]

but i can see why you'd get that impression

[dapper flint]

Yeah everything is customized

Look in the menu

One of the best things about it

[dense plinth]

if you've played Boltgun, it's closer to Boltgun

[finite crag]

Modern without being too demanding. Boltgun does look impressive

[dense plinth]

although it would be better to say Boltgun is like Prodeus since Prodeus came out first

[hexed escarp]

what is the option called?

i cant find it

[dense plinth]

tbh Beautiful Doom doesn't look that beautiful to me

just seems to add lighting bloom and that's about it

the RTX mod looks good though

[hexed escarp]

@dapper flint what is the option to disable screen shake, i cant find it

[dapper flint]

Give me a second man I was watching a movie

[dense plinth]

I think the RTX mod for Doom is only on PrBoom though

[hexed escarp]

oh sorry

[hexed escarp]

yeah its a modified version of prboom plus

[finite crag]

Not too sure as I don't have any issues with ScreenShake. Try different settings and see what happens. Could also be a feature in Prodeus

[hexed escarp]

also it only works for vanilla doom 1

[dapper flint]

Can you show me a clip? How bads this shake ?

[dense plinth]

it's a shame all those RTX screenshots for a supposed RTX update for the unity ports were fake

[dapper flint]

Need to see to let you know

[dense plinth]

cause they looked great

well some of them did

others looked too clean and shiny

wait actually I think these screenshots are just mod compilations

[hexed escarp]

its just the screen jolting a bit when you fire

nothing major, just bugs me

im really liking prodeus so far

the combat actually does remind me of classic doom a lot

it has that fast movement speed

[finite crag]

Well, if you can get in touch with the developers and suggest to them to have a minor patch to change screen shake. Won't hurt to try

[hexed escarp]

im not the biggest fan of reloading but il live

is there any reason to fire only one of the dual machinegun things at a time?

rather than both at once

[finite crag]

I suppose they wanted something different. I think it also is to save ammo instead of auto-firing both at once

[vast reef]

yeah

[dapper flint]

Just for accuracy other than that go wild

[finite crag]

Shredded enemies within seconds. Although the Shotgun is brutal upclose. Similar to the one in Doom classic

[proper steeple]

I'm a bit over halfway E2 of DOOM '93, and I gotta say, this game does a great job of making the player feel like they're always in enemy territory

[dense plinth]

wait till you get to E3 and E4

[steady nimbus]

I need help with modding DOOM II 1994 I've got deltatouch

I also use GZDOOM

[clear bobcat]

well, ive gotten my doom collection set up even better now

used powershell to create an exe that sits in the root of my mods folder. searches for all the vbs launchers i made, and puts them into a gui you can select from

wish i could share a screenshot

[azure nimbus]

#screenshots

[clear bobcat]

oh nice

[radiant thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wZmjZ0yG0

this song in headphones always makes me feel wrong because of the

[clear bobcat]

the....?

[broken pelican]

i kill everyone shoot everything and collect all key cards, but i can't seem to get the second version of the house

the altered one

[vast reef]

???

i don't... what?

this sentence makes perfect sense grammatically but i don't know what you mean

what news about gameplay did you hear

virtually all the news about the game since final doom is fanmade content with the exception of rereleases

(good) community maps are better than the campaign, the community's had much more experience with doom mapmaking than the og devs who wrote doom 1 and 2 in about a year each

obviously this is not a diss to the original doom games, they still kick ass

but even plutonia, which released in 1996, was already better than doom 2 because of how it used the enemies

well, duh

classic doom has glorious enemy and weapon balance

and the way it achieves depth despite simplicity is what makes it the FPS game for me

i don't give a shit about eternal tbh

[vast reef]

not necessarily favorite FPS (though it's definitely a very strong contender), it's just that doom doesn't have fluff or gimmicks

[hexed escarp]

Who cares about combos

I really wish that they had called it doom 4

It causes so much confusion

Bruh what did I do to you

Also, I just mean it’s annoying to have to say to everyone that I talk to doom about “doom, I mean the old one”

?

Ok

[broken pelican]

there is Doom, Doom 2 , Doom 3 and Doom Eternal (preferably 4)

i have doom 1 and Doom 2016 bought on ps4

and let me tell you doom 1 has infinite replayability which alot of games don't have

And the mods for the game can turn doom into Minecraft if you wanted yo

maps builder is easy to acces but for the mods idk

[broken pelican]

Doom 64, and that Doom Horror game i haven't tried so i can't speak about them

And Mighty Doom is a good game to go on your phone

[vast reef]

average doomguy pfp (10 iq)

he meant who cares about having lots of combos in a game

not that nobody cares about combos in d2016/eternal

[warped wind]

You can play doom however you want. I prefer not using combos as well but just killing things as creatively as possible.
Shotgun teh zombie, punch that imp to "stun" it for a while, shoot a rocket into that pinky, get back to the imp and blast it with the shotgun again, JUMP, ssg the pinky.

https://tenor.com/view/kingsman-fight-punch-jump-riot-gif-4942981

[vast reef]

you're wasting time with the weapon switches

[warped wind]

I like having fun, that's all

[vast reef]

i'm all for creativity in doom though

[warped wind]

At some point you'd try to speedrun the game (or a section), that's when combos are useful

[vast reef]

...in classic doom???

[warped wind]

Eternal

I was referring to

[vast reef]

ohhhhhh

ah

sorry lol

[warped wind]

It's liek teh call of duty franchise
For nerds like me and DOOMGUY number 135124, We've had it all by hearted

[vast reef]

if i played eternal though i'd probably be squeezing out as much DPS as possible, and do my best to find unconventional ways to do that

[warped wind]

Honestly this is a problem, it makes it harder for new people to get into loving the franchise

[hexed escarp]

It's not confusing for me, it's just annoying to explain to others

[vast reef]

no

classic doom, doom 2016

[warped wind]

That too, actually
I mean, you could just say classic doom or doom 1993 or II

[vast reef]

honestly if somebody says doom they could be referring to doom eternal, 2016, or the IWADs

[warped wind]

Doesn't it feel like sometimes games with endless user generated content make them very much worth your buck?

Man, I played doom as a kid in the 2000's, I still feel for the game, but nostalgia hits way harder when I think of flash games.

[hexed escarp]

Yeah, I wish eternal had mapping tools

I hope whatever comes next does

[warped wind]

There were so many online games with ugc (user generated content)

Plasma Burst 2...
I want to play that game now
I'm going

[vast reef]

definitely

[warped wind]

Bro these motherfuckers quickswap too in plasma burst 2 D:
THEY'RE NPCs.

[vast reef]

what's pb2?

[warped wind]

It's a flash game that I used to play

It's a side scrolling shooter

With lots of physics and gore and stuff

The weapons are pretty similar to doom ngl
But there are a few extras
There's multiplayer as well, there are deathmatch maps, coop maps, etc

I'm playing the singleplayer campaign
I miss those times.

Vega deleted my link. And my text.
There is a standalone launcher for it as well.

You can get it at plazmaburst2.com

[vast reef]

need to play this

slr btw

[dense plinth]

I read chat too

if you want combos and shit stick to new doom or a faster shooter like quake

this channel is for the classic dooms, they were never about that kinda gameplay

(although there are plenty of mods that provide it)

ahh, apologies then I misinterpreted

[vast reef]

mfw i intetionally pinged you in the response

[vast reef]

depends on the quake btw

q1 and cpma have instant weapon switching

others don't

but i forgot about quake 2, haven't played it in a while

[ruby crater]

Take adderal, boot up doom eternal, play on ultra-nightmare, slam your spacebar and 10 other keys whenever they’re off cooldown to pull off that SICK combo where you use one gun...then a different one, and another, and five other all in under one nanosecond while never touching the floor

[broken pelican]

Ashes is one of the greatest mods for Doom. Change my mind

[vast reef]

nobody wants to change your mind

ashes is one of the greatest mods for doom

[proper steeple]

There's just something satisfying about getting Berserk and Invincibility and beating the hell out of a Cacodemon with your bare hands

[mossy marsh]

if i mod the game pass verion of doom to brutal doom will i still get achievements?

[broken pelican]

that's nice to hear

I am enjoying ashes so much

[zenith berry]

You can’t put Brutal DOOM to the official source port. It’s only made for GZDoom.

BD makes use of advanced GZDoom features not available in other source ports.

[mossy marsh]

sadge, i want to do my first playthrough ever for classic doom games and i don't know which version to do, i have a fixation with achievements for some reason so ...

[mossy marsh]

will you recommend brutal doom?

[zenith berry]

Honestly, Brutal Doom isn’t that bad. I guess go for it if you want some souped up DOOM.

[mossy marsh]

what's your fav way to play the classic doom?

[proper steeple]

ahhh there's nothing like getting a time of twenty minutes on a map where the par is a minute thirty

[hexed escarp]

i really wish that someone would do a full audio cover of the eviternity ost

that would be so awesome

[ornate vortex]

OBS is being choppy af

ive switched from dsda v0.24 to 0.25 and it’s made the obs choppy (it looks as if it runs at 15 fps)

which is weird since v0.24 was 60fps

does dsda use viddump?

[zenith berry]

GZDoom, but with vanilla-like settings: no freelook, texture filtering disabled, and OPL soundfont.

[cerulean delta]

I’m not OP but for the base games I prefer International Doom. I use widescreen HUD, minor sprite fixes, and occasionally vanilla smooth weapons enhanced.

I’ll use Nugget Doom or Eternity Engine as my preferred Boom/MBF compatible source ports (although DSDA-Doom is good if you’re ok building it from source), as GZDoom is a must-have.

That reminds me, is there any vanilla-compatible mod that fixes map bugs in the original games? Like the shotgunners and barrels stuck in the walls in Underhalls.

[cerulean delta]

Have you tried 0.26? I thought that was the most recent release. (Also DSDA-Doom binaries when)

[azure nimbus]

building it from source? You don't have to build it from source. Simple zip file

[cerulean delta]

DSDA-doom isn’t pre-compiled. You have to build it in Visual Studio.

[azure nimbus]

I have DSDA. It's download -> unzip/extract -> tell your favorite launcher where it is -> launch

idk what visual studio even is

[cerulean delta]

Ohhhh, I didn’t even see the google drive link. That’s way more convenient.

But at least I have Visual Studio installed and learned how to compile programs from source code

[azure nimbus]

Yeah I wouldn't know what to do without the extract key

[cerulean delta]

How’s the MIDI playback to you? Personally out of all the source ports I’ve tried, International Doom and GZDoom have the best MIDI playback.

[azure nimbus]

I like DSDA. Sounds clear to me. But it's not like I test everything with gz

[cerulean delta]

(Unless you count DOSbox-Staging with the vanilla EXE and Boom)

[azure nimbus]

I only use gz for gz stuff and I very rarely play gz stuff. I can't figure out dos sound. My dosbox sounds terrible

[cerulean delta]

PRBoom+UM’s version of Fluidsynth had some weird behaviors with the SC55 sound font I use on most source ports. I don’t know what’s been switched around, or which file I’d need to edit.

Whatever file it is, it might not even be plain text.

[azure nimbus]

the .cfg file for dsdda is a text file so you can try finnagling with it

[cerulean delta]

(That’s the good thing about some of these other engines I’ve modded like Papyrus and GMotor2. Almost every physics/graphics/sound parameter is plain text. Anything and everything can be edited in Notepad.

[cerulean delta]

Yeah, I see that. Not had any problems with MIDI on DSDA but I’ve only used the default general MIDI.

[azure nimbus]

dsda, at least recent versions, can run tracker sound files too which is nice for nosp2

But if you mod stuff, you'd know more how to change things

[cerulean delta]

Well not Doom, but yeah

Idk, some source ports just feel a bit more locked down and harder to change. Doom-Retro for example.

I tried it a few days ago, couldn’t find any way to disable the shaking effects, and I’ve not used it again.

[dapper flint]

Have to say dsda is my favorite port. They really nailed that controller support

[ornate vortex]

i use macintosh so i can’t really play the newest version

i’m having to downgrade because v0.25.2 is causing my obs to drop frames like crazy

back to 0.24.3 I go

I regret upgrading, it’s fucked up my recording

i can’t get this sunder run uploaded because of this

[ornate vortex]

yeah this is really weird! Version 0.24 works perfectly fine with obs, no frame drops or anything

whereas version 0.25 of dsda was dropping frames fast

gonna try and get this demo uploaded to youtube and then head straight to bed since i’ve been tryna figure out how to solve the frame drop problem for hours now. it’s nearly 1am 😭

[cerulean delta]

Oof. Yeah, IIRC Mac support for a lot of ports wasn’t good. PRBoom+ especially. (When I still had a MacBook PRBoom+ was still in active development, I have a Thinkpad now.)

And I remember having weird issues with game audio capture. I was never able to get it to work on Discord no matter what I did.

[broken pelican]

where do i learn to mod ? I know how to make decent maps but i want to start making custom weapons or something

[cerulean delta]

Even better when Apple dropped OpenGL and Vulkan support in favor of their own awful Metal API, and especially when they won’t release a Doom Classic port for MacOS

[ornate vortex]

I have to use OpenGL when playing through dsda

[royal heron]

don't do mods first. I recommend always vanilla for first playthrough.

[ornate vortex]

and that’s because software makes my computer lag

[royal heron]

if you don't like it, then you can modify it

[ionic sluice]

Tip for playing doom II vanilla: don’t play doom II vanilla

[finite crag]

you're right
1.8f is better

[vernal kindle]

anyone think there would be interest in a cash prize doom multiplayer league? I just got back into doom after many years but I used to remember flooded zdaemon/skulltag servers and pretty elaborate competitive leagues with high participation. I'd love to get something like that going again and willing to put down some capital as well if that could entice players into getting back into it. thinking something like 10 teams of 4, round robin with playoffs. mix of CTF/TDM. maybe stream on twitch if enough people were interested. but after checking out these multiplayer clients I'm not sure if there are even 40 players who would be interested in such a thing 😦 thoughts?

also if anyone knows of a discord server dedicated specifically to classic doom (or even better multiplayer) would appreciate the share!

[gentle compass]

KingDime's Take The Crown was a popular tournament event with cash prizes that happened about once a year! I don't think there's anything planned for this year that I know of, but you can feel free to reach out to him about that and collaborate!

[cerulean delta]

Except for some small mods. I’d say widescreen HUD and minor sprite fixes are perfectly fine mods for a first play through. But nothing else

(Unless it’s myhouse.wad, still crazy how much that one blew up. Saw plenty of folks pick up Doom just to play that wad, I suppose I did to since it got me back interested in Doom after 2 years.)

[cerulean delta]

(Just gonna amend that and say either the Unity port or Chocolate Doom are my preferred for a first playthrough, unless you’ve got the hardware for the vanilla game)

Speaking of which, what’s a good port for vanilla deathmatch with vanilla public servers, Zdaemon or Odamex?

[finite crag]

why is unity port preferred other than easy access and availability
or is that why

[cerulean delta]

That’s the main thing, it’s also decently vanilla-accurate and has a relatively hassle-free setup

[dry ferry]

damn, Nobody Told Me About Id is mega fun

[dry ferry]

i would say woof! is basically a straight upgrade from chocolate doom and crispy doom

[cerulean delta]

True, although I wish that Woof and Nugget Doom would allow for higher resolutions than 480p.

1080p and 4K support would be nice but it’s still a good option for MBF21.

[dry ferry]

i personally enjoy the low resolution look

[cerulean delta]

Fair, it’s not for me though. Especially on a big monitor.

[gentle compass]

Both have advantages. Both have launchers. You'll have an easier time finding public populated servers with ZDaemon, but you join a server in either with what you wanna play, people will eventually join, but it's certainly best to join either's Discord to organize any coop/deathmatch pickups

Based on my experience I would prefer Odamex for as close to the vanilla experience as possible while also containing a good chunk of quality of life changes

[cerulean delta]

Yeah, I’ve heard Odamex has a better community for vanilla.

Which one is gonna be easier for setting up private co-op/deathmatch between me and a friend?

Because I’ve done that in Chocolate Doom before

And I assume the process is similar in Crispy Doom if I’m dying for higher frame rates

[gentle compass]

I would probably say Odamex, I mean, both are gonna require a host to set up, but there are sample configs in the Odamex install folder that will help get you started as well

Think about checking out their discord and their website also has a getting started guide for hosting a server

If you've hosted Crispy p2p before it's not too far off

[grand sorrel]

So I play doom on PS4 and was curious if anyone knew of a way to get house.wad on it?

[finite crag]

Is there a gzdoom port for softmodded ps4

[unreal pike]

anyone know my house?

[azure nimbus]

not going to happen. You'll need the game on pc so you can use an advanced port

[ornate vortex]

Now I can finally take a week break from speedrunning

happy days

[warped wind]

You want play pb2?

[zenith berry]

Maybe it’s possible if you mod your PS4 and install GZDoom homebrew.

[proud mortar]

G

[dapper flint]

Definitely need to switch to pc for that

[unreal pike]

anyone know my house (a map)?

[zenith berry]

At this point I’m sure everyone knows.

[unreal pike]

everyone?

[silent remnant]

Yeah it's pretty popular.

[finite crag]

i am sick of the myhouse

[dapper flint]

Same

Shits over rated

[zenith berry]

Don’t rlly care if it’s overrated, I still enjoy playing it, this time combining it with other mods.

[finite crag]

how much more can you play of it

it's the same thing everytime 😭

it's not like it's some 32 map megawad
like that i can see how you could play it over and over

[zenith berry]

Most likely because I’m playing it with other mods, thus creating a slightly different experience.

It works with Brutal Doom anyways for most parts.

And recently, I played it with the CS:GO weapons mod.

[finite crag]

what

[zenith berry]

A mod named Counter-Strike Doom: Martian Offensive

[finite crag]

that's a thing
lmao
does it have the r8 please say yes

[zenith berry]

It does!

[finite crag]

amazing

[zenith berry]

Even got the P90 and the AWP too.

[finite crag]

i wish it wasn't csgo and it was a better cs game

[zenith berry]

I’m gonna say a fact that wouldn’t make sense to many.

I killed Shrek with a molotov and an AK.

[finite crag]

why not pp bizon

[dapper flint]

It's just a horror exploration wad really. I don't see the replayabilty of it. Then again I can see how kids new to doom love it not knowing any better

[ruby crater]

It’s amazing how Doom can be enjoyed in so many different forms

[ionic sluice]

Hey I mean I wouldn’t call it overrated I think it’s earned its spot
Although yeah I don’t see why people are replaying it it’s more of a one and done kinda deal

[dapper flint]

Engine wise it's insanely impressive

[glacial narwhal]

what's up guys

I found this (https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131929-no-this-is-the-best-sc-55-soundfont/) Roland SC-55 soundfont, easily the best I've heard so far, I think it's the ultimate soundfont. Thanks EmperorGrieferus for making this

[finite crag]

gravis is better

[royal heron]

Probably not what you expect of doom, but it's still a technical masterpiece and tells its story well

[ornate vortex]

The doom community when a newcomer mentions myhouse.wad

[wraith gyro]

any maps for High Noon Drifter?

I want something with the cowboy western vibe

or something like that

[wraith gyro]

btw

does anyone know why this happens?

Execution could not continue.

Script error, "WesternQCDoomV2.0.pk3:cvarinfo" line 1:
cvar 'bulletspeed' already exists

im trying to run the Western Patch

[wraith gyro]

I'm trying to find the order in which I'm supposed to run everything but nothing works

[cerulean delta]

https://youtu.be/5D25Xn0C_OQ

The Doom II version of Blessed is public now, it looks insane

Pinkies now fire mini chain gunners

And cacodemons shoot BFG rounds

Barons can still kill you in god mode

I don’t even wanna know what the Blessed engine did to Mancubi, Revenants, Pain elementals, or archviles

[ionic sluice]

If anyone ever beats the entirety of doom in nightmare mode with the blessed engine, then they’re actually a god in disguise I swear

[cerulean delta]

There’s a great 5 minute speedrun of The Sky May Be on YouTube somewhere

Amazing that the barons do so much damage that they can kill you even on god mode

[ionic sluice]

Don’t they do like infinite damage

[azure nimbus]

I don't think vanilla doom has a way to implement infinite damage. But, god mode (in vanilla) doesn't actually protect you from extremely high damage attacks. I think the cutoff is 1000 health(2.5 cybers worth)

[ionic sluice]

Ooh

[dense plinth]

I just discovered from a video that myhouse shows you an indication that not everything is as it seems early on when you go down to the bottom floor

Since Doom has never been able to have spaces on top of each other it should be impossible

[proper steeple]

yeah myhouse has a lot of tiny details like that that are hard to notice

I'm pretty sure it changes the gun animations the second time you go through the house

[cerulean delta]

There’s no infinite damage, it’s about 2 million hit points.

TSMB was actually pretty cool, other WADs at the time didn’t exploit vanilla bugs the way this one did.

[wraith gyro]

Has anyone here played the Western Patch?

If so... HOW?

[wraith gyro]

I've been trying to play it but this keeps popping up

in GZDOOM

High Noon Drifter feels so weird without it

[heavy fern]

True

[finite crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805743557390106624/1115764356769132744/stewiescareddoom.mp4

[junior karma]

wow I can't link relevant funny images thanks to vega bot, great job discord mods very cool

[sick mist]

Your welcome.

[remote cedar]

@sick mist do you know if John Romero posted the full VOD to his gameplay of myhouse.wad?

[glass topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859113006243905537/1117431997359464548/image.png

[radiant yoke]

big fucking gun or
have the power of god (lawn mower)

[zenith berry]

So does that mean being killed by a Baron equals to being telefragged?

I assume that.

[cerulean delta]

No, it means their attacks damage you regardless. They don’t telefrag you. I think the Blessed engine either has an exception in its code for what can still damage you in God mode, or it’s such a high damage score that it kills you regardless.

[cerulean delta]

It’s up on twitch

[remote cedar]

Oh shit hell yeah

thanks a lot for the heads up

[reef pewter]

guys i...cant trigger the change in myhouse

the soulsphere never appears

i try everything but its just the normal ass map, end with normal blue key

like wtf am i doin wrong

[remote cedar]

Have you tried going around the house counterclockwise

once you have all three keys this should work

[reef pewter]

i need to circle the house. got it, lemme try

[remote cedar]

try going around behind the garage

[reef pewter]

didnt work

am i cursed

i went around behind the garage'

roamed around the map

nothing

[dapper flint]

Myhouse.pleasenomore

It's pretty cool how myhouse introduced an Insane amount of people to classic doom

[reef pewter]

lmao i fixed it, turns out myhouse.wad ironically ISNT the file i was supposed to run

[clever jolt]

@cerulean delta Barons are just built different

[dapper flint]

Probably didn't know what a wad was until they played it

[reef pewter]

its myhouse.pk3

oh well ive doomed classic doom since 2020

but yeah its suddenly a thing now which surprised me

[dapper flint]

Thats pretty fresh but right on

[reef pewter]

yupp, got it with all the other dooms

[dapper flint]

Alot of people started in 2020 also thanks to unity port

[cerulean delta]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-difference-in-skill-meme-dog-gif-22631267

[dapper flint]

It was only like 5 dollars when they launched it?

[reef pewter]

for me it was the dirt cheap sale steam offering all the dooms for basically nuthin\

but since i had a shitty laptop classic doom and ultrakill was all i had

and then came the PLETHORA of mods

[dapper flint]

I've gone full circle with mods. Was a purest then had a mod phase and back to how God intended

[clever jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-guy-doom-nerd-doom-gif-15382398

@cerulean delta depends on how new you are to Doom

[pallid wigeon]

Fun fact: The original retailed price for classic doom was $9.

[dapper flint]

So 18 dollars now

[clever jolt]

On PS4 it's $5

PS4 clutching up I guess

[dapper flint]

I'm talking about inflation if the cost remained the same 9 dollars in 1994 was around 18 dollars now

[clever jolt]

Just saying Doom 1, 2,3, and 64 are all $5. Inflation would make doom cost a lot more because of supply and demand

[dapper flint]

That didn't make any sense

[ionic sluice]

Ok but you have to admit the loading screen is fucking hilarious

Now entering “My House”

[finite crag]

How much more my house do we need

[ionic sluice]

Yeah when do we get someone else’s house my house is boring

[junior karma]

there will likely be others inspired from it since it's unlike anything much of anything that's been released before

whether they'll be any good is another story

but myhouse.wad is closer to the classic point and click adventures than it is to doom, so that's another route you can take

e.g. zork nemesis, myst, riven, grim fandango, etc.

[halcyon willow]

Return to zork

[proud mortar]

Why didnt floor 6 bars rise when i pressed the right button in doom 2 ml 20

Please help

[sick mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIl_TqFJNO8

There u go

[proud mortar]

Can someone please help me fast

[sterile hazel]

what do you mean fast?

[proud mortar]

Like quickly

I wanna finish this level

[remote cedar]

Aye thanks a lot man 🫡

[sterile hazel]

oh

[proud mortar]

Bigmacdavis is already trying to help me in yt comments

[sick mist]

your welcome

[sterile hazel]

yeah he is a legend.

[proud mortar]

I cant press the switch again bruhh im doomed

[sterile hazel]

your playing myhouse right now??

[proud mortar]

Noo

T.e.e.t.h

Master levels

[sterile hazel]

never heard of that.

[proud mortar]

Doom 2 master levels

[sterile hazel]

oh

oh oh oh ok

[proud mortar]

the express elevator to hell

[sterile hazel]

That map SUCKS!

[proud mortar]

I agree

[sterile hazel]

its super hard

[proud mortar]

Tell me about it

I really wanna finish it still

I pressed a switch that shouldve raised the bars in floor six but it didnt work and i cant press it again

[sterile hazel]

i hate the chaingunners

in that map

[proud mortar]

I searched and this has never happened to like anyone

The cages that fill up

With heavy duuds

[sterile hazel]

oh that part

[proud mortar]

I have t reached it

[sterile hazel]

once I pressed that button the chaingunners killed me instantly lol

welp talk to you later...

[proud mortar]

Sorry for ignoring bruh i forgot

[sterile hazel]

nah its fine.

[proud mortar]

I finished the level

[hexed escarp]

I’ve noticed some interesting parallels between Eviternity and doom Eternal

The following statements all apply to both games

Their names are based off of the word “Eternity”

Towards the end of the game, there is a section where you are fighting demons in heaven

This heaven section caps off with a fight against the game’s main antagonist, a fallen angel whose form is a humanoid figure with giant wings

Immediately before this heaven section, there is a section in hell

Eviternity came out a year and four months before doom eternal

These are all likely coincidences but I still find it interesting

Oh yeah and both have snow sections

[azure nimbus]

they both have doomguy

[broken pelican]

e4m2 is practically asshole design

[split jewel]

https://youtu.be/gIl_TqFJNO8

John Romero posted his Twitch archives on Youtube

This, including his Sigil 2 mapping streams

[orchid fox]

hey lads, does anyone have a link to a written guide (or maybe video, but I'd rather have a written one) on source mods and all that stuff for the classic DOOM games? I'm feeling like finally giving them a try, but for obvious reasons I can't snoop around the subreddit anymore. Which I totally support! so cool that so many communities have found such a nice way to protest.

[velvet tusk]

Screw doom

JK

[ruby crater]

Why can’t you snoop around the subreddit anymore? I don’t go on reddit often

[narrow condor]

There's a protest right now and subreddits are shutting down.

[narrow condor]

Aside from Doom Wiki as a general reference manual for source ports, Dwars has videos on YouTube that give more informal rundowns of commonly used source ports.

[orchid fox]

thank you so much!

[proud mortar]

On console doom ports, if you want the same cheats that are on pc (more cheats), you can just connect a keyboard and type it. I found it out yesterday

I always thought there was the few cheats only

[junior karma]

this makes me think, a bit off-topic but are there any other game devs that are still active players of their own games?

[vast reef]

the dev of eraser

there are a lot more but that's what i can think of off the top of my head

[proud mortar]

I really wanna play myhouse but im on ps4

[vast reef]

no laptop?

[proud mortar]

I have a laptop but its a pain in the ass playing eith it

And i cant run gzdoom or zdoom on itå

[vast reef]

specs??

unless you have a reaaally old laptop, gz should work fine, even if you won't get perfect 60fps

[proud mortar]

Uhh intel celeron n3060, 4gb ram and 32gb storage

It should run but opengl doesnt work

[vast reef]

ohhh

can you update it?

i got my mom's old laptop to run gz by updating the opengl version

[proud mortar]

Sadly not, since i downloaded a modded windows 11 its really hard to fix things and its unupdateable

[vast reef]

i mean update opengl

[proud mortar]

I cant

[vast reef]

oh, i see

[proud mortar]

I cant find a working version for tiny11

[vast reef]

if you have money, you can use delta touch on mobile

[proud mortar]

Because my laptop is supposed to be on windows 10 so there isnt any working things

[proud mortar]

Whats that

[vast reef]

collection of source ports for mobile

[proud mortar]

Oh

[vast reef]

i know it has gz, zdoom, zandronum, dhewm3, doom retro, and prboom+

[proud mortar]

Ok

I have doom 1 on my old phone

I had google play monys and i used demz

[vast reef]

nice

[proud mortar]

Do i need to jailbreak a ps4 to get stuff on it

Cheesy doom kinda stuff

Gz cheezy

Because i will not do that

[vast reef]

gz will not run on a ps4

unless you can compile the source code to get it running on ps4

[proud mortar]

Is it possible to do in a legal way

[vast reef]

no afaik

[proud mortar]

A

Is it legal to jailbreak a ps4 because i have an old ps4 and everything i found on the internet was saying different things

[dry ferry]

íwhen you guys play gameplay mods for doom, do you usually play wads you've already beaten vanilla, or do you play new wads

[vast reef]

usually the former

[hexed escarp]

Is anybody else hyped for sigil 2?

[proud mortar]

Sigil 2 is coming?

[azure nimbus]

I'd only play a gameplay mod for the level wad that its intended for with the exception of just testing out which weapon does more damage. Say heartland and Antaresian Legacy and Spectrum of the Balls of Stell and NoSp2 and NoSp3 all have weapons debatably at the strength of the bfg. Well, I can load in a map with lots of enemies and test it out(Antaresian Legacy's Leichenfaust is the strongest weapon in perhaps all of doom?)

[hexed escarp]

Yeah in December for doom's 30th birthday

[proud mortar]

Sick

[trim nest]

is there a mod that makes you able to look up & down in doom 1/2?

[split jewel]

What source port do you use?

[trim nest]

wdym?

[split jewel]

You might not need a sourceport

Do you use a ZDoom based port?

[trim nest]

i dont know what that means

[split jewel]

What do you play Doom on?

[trim nest]

pc steam

[split jewel]

Ah, Unity Doom

You can get something like GZDoom and enable mouselook

[trim nest]

is that for doom 1 or 2?

[split jewel]

Every Doom Engine game

[trim nest]

oh ok

[azure nimbus]

Most modern ports allow freelook. gzdoom's is probably the best for someone looking for it. It's a simple download if you search up gzdoom download. Then you drag and drop your doom2.wad file from your steam onto gzdoom

dsda also has a freelook but your aim is always default straightforward with autoaim

[junior karma]

PrBoom Plus is a better recommendation for newbies since it's tried and tested and doesn't slightly alter game logic the way GZDoom does with flying monsters, chainsaw code accuracy, etc

[cerulean delta]

What are some lost doom mods? I’m talking about stuff that’s either inaccessible due to link rot, or highly anticipated projects that were never completed or released.

[hexed escarp]

A source port is a fan made modified version of the doom engine

They work with both doom 1 and 2

Gzdoom is a good one that will let you look up and down

[junior karma]

this one comes to mind: https://youtu.be/qltaJknlRwY

[azure nimbus]

I'm a big fan of dsda(essentially prb+'s sucessor as far as I can tell. Same general conservative mindset to keep vanilla while also supporting mbf21), but this person seem interested in freelook so a zdoom port seems appropriate. By all means though, I like when people try vanillaish gameplay

[cerulean delta]

How so? This mod is downloadable now. Or is it found media?

Oh I see the pinned comment now. There’s so many of those shovelware Doom packs that were mostly idgames scrapes. Maximum Doom was one IIRC, it was way easier than downloading wads on a 28k modem.

The only other things I’m thinking of that I haven’t seen mentioned elsewhere are that the Casali bros made more maps for TNT Evilution that were rejected, and that the ones that made it into the final wad had to be made smaller. They also made an 8 map demo for American McGee before being offered to make Plutonia. To my knowledge none of that is on the internet, unless I read the wiki page wrong.

[dry ferry]

i don't think a lot of wads are made with specific gameplay mods and vice versa though... like, i doubt there are levels specifically for something like samsara? like, i wanna play Nobody Told Me About Id but the only thing that seems to go with it is Doom 2 re-build-t

[cerulean delta]

Treasure Tech Land is coming along well

And The Sky May Be was made for the Blessed Engine, which did a lot of stuff that Zscript made much easier.

[proper steeple]

Just starting on Thy Flesh Consumed and god this game is amazing

[glossy lagoon]

As it turns out, items seem to disappear if under a closing door.

[azure nimbus]

yep. So be careful about door fighting hitscanners

[sterile hazel]

can anyone recommend a Classic doom Wad/mod for me?

[cerulean delta]

What source port do you prefer?

The Steam release has a ton of really cool ones as addons

[ornate vortex]

What kind of wad are you looking for in terms of gameplay too?

[proud mortar]

Nuts

[dapper flint]

Real doom fans play brutal doom

[dry ferry]

if i want to play brutal doom i just play project brutality

[dapper flint]

Only real doom fans play brutal doom and project brutality. Vanilla doom is for old people

[dry ferry]

real doom fans play quake

[proper steeple]

real doom fans fight actual demons instead of playing the games

[dapper flint]

Classic doom was meant to be played with jump and freelook. It's what John Carmack would want

[royal heron]

So true

[glossy lagoon]

Real DOOM fans play the elusive Real Life source port.

Only the absolute best players get past the first level of the WAD packaged w/the port, "1,000 Metres Underneath Mt. Etna."

[dapper flint]

Brutal doom is real doom gameplay. It's how doom should be played. With door fighting

[narrow condor]

Real Doom fans don't play video games.

[ionic sluice]

Yeah man my favourite part of doom is beating up the doors

[cerulean delta]

Hot take: Underhalls is the best deathmatch map in Doom2

Better than entryway

[vast reef]

latter? mordeth ep 2

[cerulean delta]

Well yeah

[vast reef]

god i should write down mod names, i remember finding an old dehacked mod that was inaccessible due to link rot

[ionic sluice]

Trickhouse (or whatever it was called) was pretty fun despite being spammy as fuck

[cerulean delta]

Tricks and traps?

Or Barrels o fun?

[ionic sluice]

That one

[grizzled ingot]

So i just got GZDoom for the first time, and I am loving it! I haven't tried anything big yet like Brutal Doom, because I'm not sure how my PC will be able to handle it. So, I tested the waters with a WAD that added E1M10 from the Xbox Doom port, just for the fun of it. It worked very well. However, is there a way to disable/remove a WAD/mod in order to return to normal GZDoom?

[vast reef]

?

"return to normal gzdoom"?

you launch gz with the mods and it doesn't affect gz

[cerulean delta]

Ah, that one is fun with all the teleporters and crushers. About like a Smash Bros stage

[vast reef]

just don't launch it with mods if you wanna play vanilla

[narrow condor]

Two thirds of Scythe X

[dapper flint]

If you want to test your pc with gz doom play lullaby. That's the base line

[grizzled ingot]

My apologies, I think I got confused.
So launching it normally will load the game as intended. But to load mods, I manually drop them onto the dosbox file?

[azure nimbus]

if you're using gzdoom, you're probably not using dosbox. The easiest thing is to use a launcher like ZDL to organize everything for you. There, it'll be clear what exactly you're loading.

[ionic sluice]

If you’re loading individual mods, you can just drag them into gzdoom
For two or more mods, you’re better off using a launcher like ZDL, because otherwise you can’t customize the load order, which can break a few mods

[junior karma]

yeah but I think dsda is less reliable, from seeing decino's vids the invulnerability graphics are slightly bugged. It's also less popular than PrBoom at this stage so harder for someone new to get support. Good for more experienced doomers tho

[dapper flint]

Doom 64 is the prime reason to use gz right now even for vanilla players. Can't believe one dude did all that

[junior karma]

well John Carmack wrote most of doom on his own so, can be done if you're smart enough.

[finite crag]

what about ken silve-

[vast reef]

mhm

[finite crag]

hacx is cool
has anyone here played it?

[loud elm]

Is it possible that the WAD “Hell Revealed” will one day be added to the expansions of Doom and Doom II on Nintendo Switch?

[lament epoch]

Hi

[vast reef]

are you the real one

[zenith berry]

DOOM mod idea: A megawad where each level are bunch of of exit doorways. With your health slowly ticking from 100 to zero, you must be able to get to the correct exit area in time.

Get to the wrong one, and they’ll extend to reveal another one, or a maze, or even worse: a Cyberdemon area like in E3M9 quickly sending you to death.

(Yes, I got that idea from that video of a map showing bunch of exit doors. Think of it like the fake exit at E2M6 but expanded way further. And is the whole theme of the mod.)

[vast reef]

sounds cool

[tepid tulip]

I heard that Hell Revealed is a notorious WAD set

And no not in the good notorious

and that HR2 is worse but it does have a great soundtrack

Like let's be real with a song name like Sweaty Mancubus Armpits you know HR2 have some solid tracks even if the name is weird and funny

And the legendary Map15 theme

[violet mural]

Damn that sounds amazing! plus just add few chaingunners and you got yourself a nightmare lol

[hexed escarp]

So just, mario maker pick-a-door

That sounds awful

[tepid tulip]

Tbh the concept sounds interesting

[warped wind]

It was not meant to have freelook and jump, though if it originally DID have these options, the maps would be a lot more dynamic than this.

[warped wind]

Doom ca-
Are you trolling or something?

Damn you got me

Guys,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIl_TqFJNO8
Johnny uncle played myhouse, and it's here to watch on youtube!

[cerulean delta]

So who originally made the DWANGO WADs? Or who compiled them? There’s a whole long series of map packs and I know some are considered lose media (DWANGO9 is possibly confirmed to have existed, but no full copy has surfaced).

[narrow condor]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DWANGO

They are compilations of existing maps put together by the DWANGO team. DWANGO9 is real in the same way Plutonia 3 is real, in that some random guy released a mappack named DWANGO9 several years after DWANGO shut down.

[kindred field]

hey

[hexed escarp]

what was the first doom editor to have a 3d mode?

[ornate vortex]

I would've thought something like Doombuilder

The original was released in 2003 and implemented 3d mode

idk any other editor that implemented it beforehand

[ionic sluice]

the e2m6 secret exit still gives me nightmares

[stiff kernel]

Guys I have an issue

I just got the WAD file for the No Rest for The Living "chapter" for doom 2

but I have literally been so spoiled by everything that brutal doom have that IDK if to first play NRFTL with BD or just normal

[halcyon elm]

does anyone have any good recommendations for wads to play through?

i'm particularly interested in maps mostly

[vast reef]

cacowards and skill improvement thread

then from the cacoward winners, check out the other stuff the mappers made

that should give you a sizeable list

[azure nimbus]

the set was designed for vanilla gameplay

[zenith berry]

Japanese Community Project looks great.

[halcyon elm]

Thank you fellas!

[dry ferry]

is memento mori really worth playing

[hexed escarp]

eviternity is absolutely amazing

the soundtrack is beautiful

the environments are immersive

and the gameplay is action-packed

[finite crag]

hacx

play hacx

[vast reef]

chex quest better smh

[dry ferry]

I've beaten hacx

[finite crag]

my favorite part is the file size

for a funny joke they left the rest of udoom in there

[narrow condor]

To tell you the truth, it really isn't.

It's of historic interest at least, as it's a great mappack by the standards of 1995.

[icy halo]

https://youtu.be/gIl_TqFJNO8

He played it

[bold bridge]

Recently beated doom 1 on ultra violence

Pretty good game, 10 cacodemons out of 5

[toxic knoll]

i love fireblu

[celest coyote]

[vast reef]

using this as wallpaper for my house when i'm older

[junior karma]

getting it to flash will be tricky 😛

[vast reef]

i will simply print a gif

[junior karma]

actually you could probably print the two frames interlaced vertically and then fold them where they interlace, so that when you move from one side of the room to the other you will see the frame change

like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_printing

[vast reef]

like those little cards you got from kids' food

[vast reef]

yeah

[junior karma]

I would almost be tempted to try it myself, if I had the talent and means 😛

[narrow condor]

There are companies that print out custom textures with that technology.

[full quest]

Hi, Doom n00b here. I'm a Millenial but I still was only 2 in '93 and I missed out. If I buy the DOOM on Steam is it unchanged from the vanilla original?

[radiant yoke]

well some things may have changed
like its on computer and enhancements

[zenith berry]

The last time the game has had a signifcant change was in 1995.

DOOM 1 had a new fourth episode "Thy Flesh Consumed".

Aside from the new content, many changes like new secrets are largely subtle, and thus they should all appear as they were in 93.

[azure nimbus]

Kinda. Like Mondy said, there is a new episode but that was added in 1995 so I'd consider it well within the classic setup. There are some changes to textures in the secret levels and minor sprite changes as well as a very slight controls change that is really more of a speedrunner annoyance is different. Also, you can't map weapons to particular keys on console. But broadly it is the same. If you want it to be exactly the same, you can take the doom.wad or doom2.wad files from the steam game(right click -> manage files. You'll find it) and have it run in a fan-made port like DSDA-doom. A port like that emulates the old dos release exactly

[warped wind]

Way in the future so that the wallpaper is actually animated

[zenith berry]

There’s also Chocolate DOOM which is basically barebones DOOM. Exactly how it would look on DOS down to the qualuty, without the need of actually using DOS or DOSBox.

Due to that fact, it has no widescreen.

[azure nimbus]

If youwant low res, you can play dsda with low res and 4:3, or is there some other difference not accounted for? DSDA's 320x200 is 4:3

[azure nimbus]

they're totally different. Choco is for vanilla everything, whereas zdoom supports mods less faithful to the original mechanics that only run on zdoom. So depends on what you want to play

[narrow condor]

I have concluded that I really don't like Poison Ivy themed maps. I'm sorry Joshy but please let it go already.

[gusty falcon]

is it a valuable lession to not be too stubborn or prideful to drop the difficulty level when you're having a frustrating time with a mapset?

i think it is.

[azure nimbus]

no you have to dedicate the rest of your life to that level

[gusty falcon]

I hope .....you're joking that's definitely not fun 😅

[junior karma]

fun? what is fun? we're here to win

pain is the name of the game 😛

[finite crag]

why does []zdoom feel so bad to play on to me

[gusty falcon]

I'd rather dealing the pain 😝

[narrow condor]

My rule of thumb is that if I realise I'm not enjoying a map and (based on what I've seen thus far) it doesn't look like it's going to get any better, I skip to the next map in the pack.

Though I have a high threshold for that because I fear missing out of something interesting later into the map.

[vast reef]

maybe you have some input lag in gz

some people here notice a difference in movement due to that

[finite crag]

no no it's just
doesn't feel right

maybe it's all the modern features

[vast reef]

^^

[finite crag]

the autosave message really makes it feel off for some reason

it just doesn't seem like doom
idk why

[vast reef]

game is game

[vast reef]

mods (that tend to be played on []zdoom) are a very, very integral part of doom though

[zenith berry]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135350-stanley-a-tribute-map-to-the-stanley-parable/

If you want something new but still similar to MyHouse.wad.

[dull whale]

I just played MyHouse.wad for the first time about 20 minutes ago, I'll check that out

[finite crag]

Oh yeah I'm on map 03 of hacx now
Levels seem a little long

Probably because the enemies are super tanky and there's like ~100 per level

[cerulean delta]

Isn’t Hacx flat out unfinished towards the end?

Like placeholder textures and geometry?

[finite crag]

Not sure
Probably
But it thought they fixed that in a version

[cerulean delta]

Oh right, v1.2

Isn’t the newest revision Zdoom-exclusive?

[finite crag]

Is it?

Hope not I'm playing it on dsda

1.2 if you mean

[azure nimbus]

zdoom physics are slightly different from vanilla

[warped wind]

Hey guys
Do you think the DOS version of the chainsaw is any harder to use than gzdoom's? Maybe it's the 35 FPS cap, but it's slightly more difficult to lock on to targets while moving.

[narrow condor]

It's not just the DOS version, it's pretty much every source port. GZDoom just has much better collision detection.

You can reach near hitboxes of mancubi and arachnotrons much easier to chainsaw them too.

Punches are less likely to whiff for the same reason, not to mention that the blockmap bug is fixed.

Quality-of-life enhancement or cheating? You decide. :-P

[warped wind]

Honestly, I'm probably going to go with what's in teh original game if I want the original experience. Otherwise, if I'm going to be using smooth sprites and stuff, for the definitive experience, sure.

[narrow condor]

I can't stand texture filtering myself but I still prefer GZDoom, since I'm not interested in the original experience either. I just set it to be as vanilla-adjacent as possible and enjoy the amenities.

[azure nimbus]

Specifically, DOS and ports with vanilla physics have a "blockmap". Basically the cause for all the physics issues that you'll stumble across with hit registration. Each block is kinda like a minecraft chunk. When you shoot hitscan, it only checks for objects in the blocks that it passes through. While monsters can occupy several blocks in reality, their origin(their center) is only in one block. So you could hit part of an enemy that is in a different block than its origin and miss. This happens for hitscan weapons, especially ones with low range(chainsaw and fist which have 65 and 64 unit range respectively) and for large enemies(arachnos, manc, bosses) because their bodies take up the most space outside of the block that their origin is in

As far as melee goes, you'd really want to check doomworld threads on tyson strats that are beyond me. But for usining chaingun or shotgun, a big help is to try shooting diagonally(not north, south, east, or west). I've never had this sort of issue with projectiles. But projectiles have their own issues: manc fireballs and -fast projectiles can go through walls. Again, it's more likely if traveling perpindicular to a cardinal direction wall. Non-fast baron projectiles can do this too but it's extremely rare.

[junior karma]

tl;dr when computers had the power of a potato shortcuts had to be taken that ended up making guns occasionally miss when they shouldn't

[cerulean delta]

GZDoom chainsaw feels a bit like it latches onto a target and pulls the player closer.

Idk if that’s just my imagination or not

[azure nimbus]

That's kinda true. The chainsaw already does that. But GZ has more accurate hit reg so yaknow...it actually works

[hexed escarp]

how come when you convert pngs to flats in slade it changes the extension to .raw instead of .lmp

[narrow condor]

That's default behaviour in original Doom. It'd be a pretty terrible weapon if it didn't have that feature because of its range. Fun fact: It also disables knockback for the same reason. Shoot a rocket at a monster and switch to the chainsaw before it lands to see.

[ornate vortex]

I’m kinda back from my break, not really, just learning another hard map, that’s all

Goetia from Tangerine Nightmare isn’t hard in terms of combat (it’s fairly moderate) but remembering the secrets will be hard since there’s about 11 secrets

[celest coyote]

Tangerine Nightmare, good choice 😄

[wispy kernel]

i got the gzdoom verson

[dense plinth]

GZDoom is a good choice

[junior karma]

I wonder if you could make a map where archvile was on a pillar and knocking back caused archvile to fall into a teleporter and teleport next to you so you have no cover, so you have to switch to the chainsaw after each rocket otherwise you are screwed

[narrow condor]

That's... actually a rather clever gimmick.

You wouldn't be able to telegraph that to the player since most people aren't aware of this mechanic, but decino made a gimmick map based on a specific mechanic (that monsters immediately target you after a pain state and archviles will target you even outside the range) using graphical signs as instructions.

[junior karma]

yeah it would need a detailed explanation, would be interesting though but maybe not that fun

[narrow condor]

Using graphical signs to explain a mechanic isn't necessarily a bad thing IMO. Of more serious maps, I can think of Sunder M17 (I think?) using a shushing archvile warning sign to tell the player to stay silent/go pacifist in an area, and Valiant M07 explaining that you have to keep the mancubus alive.

[narrow condor]

Found the map in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64pyo_WJs-8&t=1434s

He reused that idea in Poogers M03, a mappack dedicated to weird mechanical gimmicks in itself.

A gimmick I came up with was pushing a revenant up stairs to reach a teleporter — since revenants jump for a split frame to shoot from shoulder-height (to compensate for their hitboxes being the same size as imps') and that you can use weapon knockback to push monsters off platforms in Boom, you can push a revenant up a small platform it otherwise can't walk onto if you time your shots right. Though it'd be necessary to have hidden archviles to revive it. I just couldn't find a fun way to incorporate it into anything.

[junior karma]

wouldn't it immediately walk down?

[narrow condor]

Monsters can't drop from platforms on their own volition.

They can climb up and descend from stairs with very low steps that are large enough to accommodate their collision boxes.

I'm not 100% sure but I believe the revenant's jump is higher than the height it can climb (24 units).

[narrow condor]

Ah, you're right, it wouldn't work. I just checked the engine source and it only jumps up by 16 units.

[junior karma]

I see

[dusky sierra]

Anyone else thinks Pinkies are an absolute joke? Like in every difficulty except maybe Nightmare, there needs to be a thousand of them to even drain 20% of your HP.

I just find them more of a nuisance than anything, is there any reason why it feels like they do no damage no matter what?

[junior karma]

they're more meant for denying movement than outright damage

[craggy bone]

Yeah, pinkies aren't a "kill you" enemy, they're a "screw you over so other enemies can kill you" enemy

[vast reef]

👆

[weak python]

Question, I am not too experienced with code but I wanted to ask, how do you connect custom episodes together in GZDoom so it's like playing one long playthrough instead of playing through each episode seperately?
Also, if this is the wrong place to put this, I apologize.

[halcyon elm]

make em all one episode

[vast reef]

do it in slade :>

[halcyon elm]

ye basically you open slade and edit the mapinfo, setting what map leads you to what map after you finish said map

[warped wind]

I read this in decino's voice, thanks

[tiny rampart]

that silly mod with the house really made me come back to doom and stuff

i've laid off doom for like a year and forgot about it because of personal reasons

but damn it's so good to see classic doom thriving

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/828346173831512157/1119238801068396584/screenshot01.png
you get 10000 dollars for living here for one week would you do it?

[royal heron]

As long as I just stay in the house and not activate the second house I should be fine

[dusky sierra]

That's basically me in 2015, and since I've lived through it yes I would

[thin needle]

I would do that with problems

[hexed escarp]

You still have to deal with the demons tho

[vivid socket]

I just beat this mod

Holy fucking shit is it good

[ionic sluice]

Make them all your roommates, get like really rich from rent money

[dry ferry]

i beat memento mori

i wonder if i should pistol start scythe

[sick hamlet]

hi

I just installed GZDoom, and um, I looked up??? Is that normal???

you're not supposed to look up in doom

[ionic sluice]

That’s a gzdoom feature lmao
You can look down, crouch and jump too

[sick hamlet]

what

also how do I make the hud normal

I dont like the gzdoom one, I like seeing my face

[ionic sluice]

Set your Screen size down
You can also then go to hud options and make the hud bigger
Be warned though it feels really weird to use with freelook at big size

[sick hamlet]

I got it

how do I turn off freelook now

got it

now I've got the perfect doom experience

[halcyon elm]

the japanese community project is kicking my ass lol

i have a terrible skill issue

[versed coyote]

Using the bfg to kill archviles isnt about killing it

its about sending a message

[azure nimbus]

viles are worth BFGing. Maybe not in every case but it's not always overkill

[somber kite]

Imagine liking archviles

[sick hamlet]

anyone know how to do the bit in e1m5 with the pitch black room?

I cant see a thing how do I kill demons

[silent remnant]

if it's the map I'm thinking of there's goggles in an alcove to the left when you enter

[sick hamlet]

thanks

they make it easier to see?

[silent remnant]

yeah

[sick hamlet]

alright I'll run in there try get them

wow, thanks! I got through there and blasted all the demons

[silent remnant]

nice

[sick hamlet]

this game is fun

I like running into places guns blazing without any thought whatsoever

[sick hamlet]

i am not good at this game

[junior geyser]

Hello

[upper crypt]

Well Shawn’s got the shotgun so that’ll have to do

[dusky sierra]

Anyone else find mod-hate annoying?

Whilst I'm not an OG classic Doom fan, I've certainly grown up playing it learning about the game from my dad and I'm quite fond and seasoned on the entire game. For a majority of my life, my family didn't have too big of a budget so the only game I truly grew up playing was Doom and Minecraft, and maybe some other low-end browser games.

I just found an entire video of the beansprout hating on Brutal Doom for reasons that I honestly can't understand.

I've also seen people on forums complaining about similar things.

"This mod sucks it disrespects the original!!"

"This mod completely loses all the glory classic doom has!!!!"

"Reloading sucks!!!!"

"This ruined doom!!!!"

Like I don't get it Its a mod, and If you don't like it, don't download it?

Doom might be the only community I've seen online where people genuinely complain about mods when they have 0 effect to the actual original game.

Like seriously, when was the last time someone went "this GTA mod added aliens to GTA! That completely disrespects the original GTA where they don't have aliens! This mod completely ruins the game for me!"

I know Doom is an amazing game and it revolutionised gaming as a whole, but I never understood why so many of the community completely dislikes mods when they practically do nothing to the base game itself, like just don't download it?

I feel like people make something as simple as "reloading" in mods way too seriously.

Whilst yes I do prefer the original with the guns not reloading, but I have no offense with mods that do add reloading like Brutal Doom as example, again JUST DON'T DOWNLOAD IT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

I might be wrong, and besides I didn't exist when Doom I came out so I might be wrong, opinions?

[ionic sluice]

It’s like really stupid how they’re like “this isn’t like vanilla doom!!!1!” Like no shit what were you expecting the mod to do
Not change the game

[dusky sierra]

Yea fax, I have a feeling people who do that are genuinely just trying to be different and shit.

Just trying to put it in your face that they play Classic Doom.

Classic Doom is great, no reason to hate on mods for change when mods are literally made to change the game.

[lilac saffron]

frrrrr

[vast reef]

the thing with brutal doom is that many hail it as "the definitive version of doom"

nobody hates on stuff like high noon drifter (a mod where you play as a magic realmhopping cowboy) or codename demolitionist (a mod where you play as a robot with cool overpowered weapons) because none of them claim to be a better version of doom

though i do agree that if you hate a mod for not being faithful for the original, then your take is dogshit

i personally dislike BD because i don't find it that much more fun than classic and think it hasn't aged that well

[fickle flume]

Anyone familiar with Lilith.pk3? I'm trying to give it a go and while certain assets are loading, I can't seem to get into the maps themselves

Okay using the console I manually loaded the maps lmao

[ruby crater]

You need to run lillith with zdoom exclusively or else the wad will shut you out

[vast reef]

yeah

[fickle flume]

Gotcha, it just occurred to me that the Doom 2 WAD was loading even though it's not in the directory, it must be using a config file from my GZDoom install

Regardless, managed to bodge it enough to start the experience so here we go

Thank you!

[ruby crater]

It’s a fun wad to experience once just for the trip it puts you through

Not a hard wad to beat by any stretch

Just confusing as hell at certain parts because of what it is lol

[fickle flume]

Good god the hardest part is deciding what you're looking at is an enemy or not

Man this'll be fun

[ruby crater]

And the sound stuff is what got me a few times

But yea the visual distortions are wild

[fickle flume]

I got some Amanita Muscaria from my local shop earlier, trying to do this WAD on a psychedelic is fucking nuts

[fickle flume]

Some of these effects are seriously cool

[ruby crater]

Oh yea blind playing lillith on shrooms sounds insane

[fickle flume]

This is a really interesting challenge, it's pretty hard for me on UV

But these rendering tricks they do are incredible, having a load of fun with that software renderer lmao

[halcyon elm]

are there really people that stupid to hate mods "because it changes the original" or some other dumb reason like that?

[fickle flume]

oh my god what a ride

great wad

[dusky sierra]

Yes there are, and some are players that I honestly respect which is sad

[halcyon elm]

ngl that's loser behavior

complaining about mods and shit

unless they're horrible like moon man doom, fuck that mod and whoever made it needs to be locked up

[dusky sierra]

Yeah fax

No need to complain about difference, besides they're prolly just trying to flex and shit.

"I'm so cool, I play vanilla doom meanwhile you losers play on Zdoom GZdoom and mods 😂😂😂"

[finite crag]

i complain about zdoom because it feels weird to play

[dusky sierra]

I agree and the original will always stay on top, but there are definitely people who hate just because of the change or how "different" it is.

[dusky sierra]

No worries, as long as you don't see any version more superior than the other and appreciate each person's preference

[finite crag]

well i mean

there are better sourceports than others

and i'm still pissed at unity for 5 save slots

[dusky sierra]

That I agree, I can't stand 32x's soundtrack

[finite crag]

unity port having 5 save slots is really dumb

[dusky sierra]

Any game that has limited save slots is kinda weird in general

[finite crag]

"oh you don't need more than 5" yeah but addons use the same ones so
you have 5 save slots for like the 20 addons

[dusky sierra]

Glad I didn't use that, I use alot of save slots to speedrun certain levels and parts of the game

[finite crag]

unless there are more saves idk

also i have 2 other issues with unity

1. no 35 fps option, but it has 30 so?
2. sensitivity too low for mouse still

[dusky sierra]

I get your point but I have never met someone who plays on 35 FPS

[finite crag]

tbh mouse sensitivity is probably like vanilla's but it's too slow for me

[dusky sierra]

Option 2 is thankfully not a problem for me since my mouse has a quick sensitivity slider

[finite crag]

in dsda-doom i have a sensitivity of 60.

[dusky sierra]

My preference is like 90 on nightmare and 70 on just casual/ultra-violence

[finite crag]

maybe mine is too low

[dusky sierra]

Preference is all that matters really, if you're comfortable with your current one it shouldn't be a problem

[finite crag]

people find it weird i use m2 as use

[dusky sierra]

They just aren't used to it, but again I could definitely see that being useful at times

I wonder what Wahoo is typing

[finite crag]

i like not having to use a movement key finger for use
and also i can use thumb for alt or use too

[ionic sluice]

Honestly uh the unity port could be worse
It’s really good for playing on mobile
Built in addons are nice too (I think they make the pistol faster in those, for some reason?)
The 5 slot save isn’t that bad, I just wish you could name them or they at least said what mod was used on the save
Controls like shit but I can’t really think of a better way, mobile just be like that

[dusky sierra]

I think there's a better way of playing on mobile than unity, but it doesn't exist as of now.

Anyways

[ionic sluice]

I mean I was expecting like a fully vanilla port
Sure there’s like mobile gzdoom but for like a basic port it does the job pretty well

[dusky sierra]

Yea

What is your personal favourite enemy in classic-doom ?

Mine is cacodemon, and idk why tbh

[fickle flume]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-cacodemon-demon-cute-gif-7070685866677885551

[dusky sierra]

Yea its cute

[finite crag]

I think the cacodemon is loved because of how it looks

Like all the other creatures look creepy where the cacodemon just has this adorable face

[short flame]

How i make a classic doom guy cosplay

[dry ferry]

playing doom pwads on a 3ds feels so... wrong

[short flame]

I need some advice on how to make your cascero at home, because I will cosplay at a convention

[vast reef]

35 fps means you're seeing the raw game update every frame since the game runs at 35 ticks per second

don't know if that could help you though

[dusky sierra]

Ah that makes sense

[dusky sierra]

It looks like a pug ngl

[dusky sierra]

Hmm

I mean the shirt and pants are really easy to make yourself.

Don't know if that PFP is you, but if it is.

It already looks great ngl

Just needs texturing like spray paint to sell the effect of a classic but somewhat believable looking doomguy armor

I think you should look up other Classic Doom Guy cosplays online and see what you could improve from there.

[azure nimbus]

I do

[narrow condor]

I tried 35 FPS and it felt better and worse at the same time.

If my monitor weren't limited to 60 Hz refresh rate, I'd set the FPS cap to 70.

[warped wind]

I just have to kill all the monsters safely and relax. I'm not going in there without c4s to blast my way out.
Does the fridge actually work? I'm not going to bother finding secrets or anything, I'll have fun with the playstation... wait no... the xbox. Wait what?

[dry ferry]

anyone play classic doom on mobile? how are you supposed to circle strafe and shoot with touch controls

[ornate vortex]

it's a pretty nice looking house tho, i'd do it if I was offered like 500 dollars

[warped wind]

You weren't originally supposed to circle strafe, you gotta either take cover or figure out some 10-finger control setup :cacotrollface:

[ornate vortex]

As long as rent is free and I don't have to worry about bills

[warped wind]

Ahah, there are more stuff you gotta worry about

The monsters in there don't seem too inviting

[ornate vortex]

just turn on the nomo parameter and you're all good

actually I don't think zdoom uses nomo parameter, you just have to type in "kill monsters"

[warped wind]

But how do you open up the console in real life? Do you pull your eyelids away from your eyes to see the text?

Was checking out TAWOG gifs, sorry

[dry ferry]

you may not have originally been able to but most modern wads expect you to

[warped wind]

I guess you just gotta turn normally and stop pressing the shoot button to get your finger back to the edge of your phone

I'd stick to those casual obscure wads you can find that aren't too difficult on mobile

I've played brutal doom on mobile too, it went pretty fine, it was like a regular tactical shooter. Project Brutality is where I'd draw the line.
Shit, what about hideous destructor?

[vast reef]

bind volume button to fire

if that's possible at all

or you can put a button on-screen that you press with your index finger

that's what i do for most games

it feels really uncomfortable at first but you get used to it quick and it doesn't cause any injury

[short flame]

My pfp is not me

[dusky sierra]

Oh-

Well do you already have some things set for the cosplay or are you just starting to prep?

[short flame]

Im preo

[dusky sierra]

What do you have currently?

Or atleast could you tell me the budget you are going for?

[short flame]

Nothing for now

[dusky sierra]

Cosplaying is easy when you're in a huge budget, its difficult when you're finding creative ways for a cheaper alternative.

If you are willing to afford it, you could pretty much by the whole cosplaying set online at a price.

But if you're in a small budget, you would need creative ways to alternate or make it affordable using things you already have at home.

[short flame]

I only have cardboard for the helmet, the problem is that I don't have a silicone gun

[dusky sierra]

There's a tutorial for a double barrel shotgun prop using pipes and wood

[short flame]

First im gonna make the helmet

[dusky sierra]

Do you know how to make one?

[short flame]

No

[obtuse nimbus]

should I get doom builder

[dusky sierra]

Can't help you that much then, maybe try to find a cosplay community or smth

[obtuse nimbus]

oh well I'll get it then, let's see what monstrosity will I accomplish that isn't an empty enclosure

[ionic sluice]

I mean there’s no reason not too
Get ultimate doom builder though that’s the best one

[dusky sierra]

I really want a mod where the levels are open and the combat is more fast paced, any suggestions?

[ruby crater]

Doombuilder GZBF is where it’s at

(It totally isn’t because UDB doesn’t work with AMD cards or anything and I needed a workaround)

[ruby crater]

Struggle: Anterisean Legacy is a good one with faster-paced weaponry

[dusky sierra]

Ok I'll definetely check it out

What difficulty do you play this on compared to Doom I and Doom II?

[ruby crater]

I play on Ultra Violence for every wad, or whatever UV equivalent difficulty there is

[dusky sierra]

I play on UV casually and nightmare on occasions, in case this doom mod is more difficult I want suggestions on diff

[ruby crater]

Nightmare might suck balls for that wad, up to your pain tolerance

[dusky sierra]

Ok so I'm guessing there are more enemies but also more perks and better weapons to counter-balance?

[ruby crater]

You got it

[dusky sierra]

I'll download it asap then, seems like my type of mod

[dusky sierra]

The soundtrack is awesome

Already loving it, less damage more enemies

Got pretty confused on that target thing though lol, kept shooting at it closely when I was supposed to shoot it from afar

[sick hamlet]

mfw in dooms gate

you see the meaning is that i shoot gun

I genuinely went insane upon discovering that there were more than like 3 levels in the og doom

I only remember those first 3

because I just replay those on my dsi over and over and over and over and

[dusky sierra]

Probably just younger you not knowing saving exists

[sick hamlet]

I know saving exists

i just couldnt be bothered

[dry ferry]

im playing a doom wad harder than plutonia on my 3ds with stylus aim, 35fps

[halcyon elm]

🫡 we salute you you legend

[finite crag]

Normally I'd say there is no right way to play doom

But I think you've found it

[dusky sierra]

I disagree

We all know playing Doom in a calculator powered by potatoes is the true correct way of playing doom.

[meager zealot]

Nah the true way is playing it on a pregnancy test

[sick hamlet]

I thought the pregnancy test one was faked

like they just put an led screen in there and played doom on a computer, with the screen showing their gameplay

[finite crag]

the only real way of playing it is by both playing and not playing it at the same time

[sick hamlet]

the only real way is to just be standing still while you do something else in real life and then turning your head up to look at the screen every 10 seconds

[radiant yoke]

when elon musk makes a chip u can play doom games on
SOMEONE IS GONNA DO IT 💀💀💀

but the best way to play doom is the wall

[dusky sierra]

How about eating Doom?

Eat the pregnancy test

[radiant yoke]

nah u wildin

other way to play doom is with youtube

or excel

[zenith berry]

How about you LIVE DOOM? Put DOOM in your DNA!

[radiant yoke]

i
would legit do this

[dusky sierra]

We mortals aren't supposed to achieve such knowledge-

[radiant yoke]

mf who wouldnt want to sleep with holding ur bfg like a teddy bear??

[dusky sierra]

I would marry the Super Shotgun

[radiant yoke]

would doomguy take one of his weapons on a date?

[dusky sierra]

And die of old age next to my pet cacodemon

[dusky sierra]

Depends, I mean his single after all.

Canonically had a wife but died

[radiant yoke]

day in the life of doomguy (classic)
wake up
stop demonic invasion

[radiant yoke]

like not a person
just the gun.

if it were uhhh bfg or ssg

[dusky sierra]

I mean I feel like If I was punished to fight demons for literal eons, I would be insane enough to date a weapon but Doom Guy's kinda built different ngl

[radiant yoke]

fr

[zenith berry]

Wife and a kid

[radiant yoke]

at the end of eternal he walks and probably thinks “Hope this shit never ends.”

[zenith berry]

But man the Slayer really lost everything.

[dusky sierra]

And a pet rabbit "Daisy"

[radiant yoke]

had a wife, a child but most importantly…
bnuy

[dusky sierra]

I wished we got to see more of pre-doom Doom guy's backstory.

It would be interesting seeing the written lore put into cutscenes in newer Doom games

[radiant yoke]

ID better make a game where we get to see the wife and child, along with daisy

[dusky sierra]

Yea it would be interesting

[radiant yoke]

ye

i wonder what happens after the doom 64 ending

he decides to stay in hell, but what happens afterwards
did he get captured and went to sleep by the hell priests in 2016?

[ornate vortex]

May as well start speedrunning e1m1 but with a dance pad

[sick hamlet]

Doom

[radiant yoke]

yes.

[sick hamlet]

good game

i owe id software money tho

[radiant yoke]

why

[sick hamlet]

they said i do

when i close doom 1

[radiant yoke]

did u pirate it or smth?

[sick hamlet]

like the file yeah

im not buying doom again just for a wad file so

[radiant yoke]

did u torrent it or smth

or download

[sick mist]

Please refrain from discussing any form of piracy on the official doom discord.
Thank you.

[radiant yoke]

cause if u downloaded it thats illegal

[radiant yoke]

yes sir mr mod sir

[sick hamlet]

ok

[sick mist]

Cheers mates

[radiant yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

cheers indeed

[sick hamlet]

anyway

funny doom guy go brrrrrrrr

[dense plinth]

so I discovered today that Hell Beneath is very stingy about giving to 100% secrets

the secret that spawns the 4 barons only triggers as found if you walk over the logo that triggers the walls to come up around you

but only immediately after you activate the trap

it doesn't count the secret as found if you quickly run out of the room, kill the barons, then come back and walk over the logo

[dusky sierra]

Do yall know any mods where the maps are really open and simple to go through?

It sounds embarrassing but 80% of my gameplay on most Doom mods is simply walking around trying to solve things across the map and I'm kinda sick of it 😭

[halcyon elm]

Sometimes hunting for keys sucks

I understand you 100%

[dusky sierra]

Yea and sometimes its genuinely easier to find secrets than the keys or the proper progression of the map

[halcyon elm]

Lol i feel you

[finite crag]

idspispopd or idclip

[dusky sierra]

Thx I'll check it out

[halcyon elm]

those are cheats

[dusky sierra]

Wait

Oh yeah sorry my brain automatically responds to every message lol

I haven't even read it

That was funny tho

[finite crag]

Alternatively

[dusky sierra]

Isn't there also a cheat code to activate computer maps?

[finite crag]

Yes I forgot

[dusky sierra]

iddt or smth

[finite crag]

idbehold and I forgot the letter

Oh and also iddt yeah that too

[dusky sierra]

Oh yeah I've been hearing about this mod called Blades of Agony, I wonder if its any good.

From some screenshots it looks like its Wolfenstein-inspired or smth

[vast reef]

insane enough for impse?

[vast reef]

it's much less of a mod and moreso just a wolfenstein fangame made in gzdoom

[azure nimbus]

junkfood.wad

[sick hamlet]

finally beat Knee-Deep In the dead

the ending was weird

so I guess I'm just in hell now?

[finite crag]

I think you're ready now for pluton-

[sick hamlet]

now I'm in hell and everything is getting real

right before I went in there was these two new enemies that were really strong and now I'm in here and there's like floating heads or whatever

[dusky sierra]

Ahh ok, is it any good?

[dusky sierra]

Time for BFG spam

[finite crag]

Is it bad if I think that pain elementals are more annoying that archviles