doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

Doom slayer woke up, chose violence, destroyed God, Jesus, heaven, Satan, and the holy spirit. Then went back to sleep

[tender sage]

I am also playing on ultra-violence, I am in mega gore nest. I think it's harder than cultist base

[slow sigil]

||the devil looks like him btw||
Literal tag2 lore

[azure oriole]

I think the cultist base is the hardest because you don't have a full arsenal, you probably only have 1 or 2 runes and praetor suit upgrades, and the game doesn't like you. Perfect mix for a hard level

[tender sage]

you got a point

I am having a hard time on mega gore nest, more than in cultist base

[azure oriole]

Do you mean super gore nest?

[sacred dirge]

mega nest!

[azure oriole]

What

[steel grove]

Super Gore Nest is okay for me on nightmare

[azure oriole]

Yall making scripts or something?

[steel grove]

Unless it’s the master level

Then god help me😅

[azure oriole]

Man make a book about this

[steel grove]

Mars Core master level for me is like the LONGEST

Like Jesus dude if it had a time at the end I’d be at like 1:30😂

[slow sigil]

Did you do any of the other mls?

[steel grove]

Yeah I’ve done all the rest at least 3 times save for cultist base cause I didn’t pre order in time🥲

[azure forum]

Including TN and WS?

Because I personally felt MC and SGN were not too long. Mars core last arena is really long, so I agree with you on that.

[steel grove]

What’s TN again

[azure forum]

Taras Nabad

[steel grove]

Oh yeah

[strange gale]

MC feels really long cause it has lots of gimmick encounters that are stretched out to be 2-3x as long as they should

[steel grove]

Yeah fr so like I’ll find myself spending like a solid 10 minutes on any given encounter

And I usually never die unless it’s like nightmare

[somber quiver]

Guys idk if is a glitch but I keep punching enemies (without blood punch) and it automatically puts a them into glory kill state

[rustic rampart]

What cheats codes do you have on?

[sacred dirge]

[dry perch]

doom lore!

[sacred dirge]

I made that shit up but it sounds tight

[dry perch]

so if doomguy pisses his suit it vaporizes and he smells it for the rest of the time@sacred dirge

[dire sparrow]

Hmmm.. This reminds me of a great eternal-lore classic.
Essentially that theory is that the slayer shits and pisses in the suit mid combat. Shit then gets converted to flame belch fuel, and piss into chainsaw fuel.

[nocturne lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/killed-em-hold-this-stabbed-gif-14017151

[dry perch]

someone shoould make a IM SHITSINNIGSGGGG

of doomslayer

[sacred dirge]

Actually astronauts have a storage system. Doesn't stink at all

[dry perch]

can they drink it after

[sacred dirge]

Maybe.

[strange gale]

base punch does 1 damage, so no that's not a glitch

[tender sage]

Yes lol

[azure oriole]

took your time responding lol

[mossy nova]

shooty

[burnt moss]

Doomy

[patent snow]

I have extra Sentinel Batteries, where do I use them?

[burnt moss]

There are doors with battery terminals on either side in the Fortress of Doom

[mossy nova]

upgrades skins

[burnt moss]

Oh extra

Idk look around. But you might have everything already

[patent snow]

K

[burnt moss]

How many extra?

[tough fjord]

Should I replay the game before doing the dlcs. It’s been like a year since I played

[azure oriole]

Yeah you'll need to brush up your skills for sure. DLC is nutso

[tough fjord]

Ok cool.

[cold ivy]

Wow so I finally played Taras Nabad nightmare for the first time

The archville room imo is definitely not as hard as people made it out to be but it of course is still hard lol

(without the bfg)

I will say the coin room you have to play a lot and get great at

That is definitely one of the toughest rooms in all of the Master Level's

[ember void]

Taras Nabad on Nightmare?

Oh, you meant the Master Level, of course.

[dry perch]

beated that on UN it is hard

took me many tries

[ember void]

Same. not worth the grind.

cybergrind ultrakill omg

[opal galleon]

spoony?

[neon otter]

ultrakill?

ultrakill ruined my muscle memory i now press the same weapon button thinking it would switch mods but it dosent

i am not doing world spear master level mars core master level gave me ptsd

[azure oriole]

is spoony the guy from the new blood server?

with the doomguy pfp

[opal galleon]

[ember void]

yes, that's him.

[azure oriole]

ah yeah ive seen him

[ember void]

I think I'm in the nb server.

[opal galleon]

Doesn't hakita dunk on him often

[azure oriole]

mf won't stop asking about free games and doom wads

[ember void]

lmao.

spoony the gamer twenty-one.

[azure oriole]

yep ive definitely seem him

he's one of the guys from the doom eternal server in the nb

[jaunty wigeon]

who had the gigabrain idea of capping the shotgun to 20 fucking bullets

and have no infinte ammo weapon

[rustic rampart]

Chainsaw = infinite ammo

[jaunty wigeon]

ok but i don't want to use the chainsaw

at that point why even have guns

[rustic rampart]

Sounds like a you problem

[mossy nova]

no chainsaw skill

[jaunty wigeon]

if you could at least use fists whenever you wanted to

but nah i don't think eternal even has fists at all

[mossy nova]

eternal hast fist but on a power up

[opal galleon]

❔

[mossy nova]

no skill

[jaunty wigeon]

cope

[mossy nova]

no ammo skill

theres a reason why ammo is so low on eternal so you can use the chainsaw

[sacred dirge]

Chainsaw is fun anyways

[rustic rampart]

Chainsaw is the best video game feature ever

3 second scratch break without having to pause

[signal perch]

haha yeah

[ember void]

hmmmp what the hell

you never talk here

hi

[flint flame]

pingu

[flint flame]

[ember void]

[mossy nova]

go back to doom 2016

[jaunty wigeon]

i will

it's a lot better

[flint flame]

Skill issue unironically

[ivory ore]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-smirk-gif-18775562

[azure oriole]

But it's so cool!!!

[ember void]

I think if you press the t key, you chainsaw a demon that is in front of you 😱 (I honestly cannot remember the default bind for the chainsaw, but I'm trying to make the joke that you do not know how to actually chainsaw)

[azure oriole]

?

[mossy nova]

i have a theory about the crusible when a crusible kill a titan it takes 3 charges of the crusible thats why the crusible isnt in tag 1 and tag 2

[flint flame]

Or it could be that the crucible was stuck inside the icon’s head

[mossy nova]

how about the other titan in taras nabad and my fingers are going weird again

[flint flame]

It was stuck inside its head?

[mossy nova]

no in its chest

the only way to stop a titan is to stab it with a crusible

titans are immortal the crusible paralyzes the titan if the energy thing in the crusible is remove it will rise again

[lapis saddle]

Yup. The Slayer just took off the hilt and made a new crucible with it

[mossy nova]

wheres the other 2 energy hilts

im practicing pb rocket launcher and my fingers are goin weird because of it

whats better circuit board skin plasma rifle or specter plasma rifle skin

[gray rivet]

I like specter more

Imo carbon fiber looks sickest for plasma rifle. Missed that one unfortunately

[flint flame]

You just killed your own theory

[mossy nova]

wheres the 2 other energy hilts

[mossy nova]

im dumb so idk

[sacred dirge]

[mossy nova]

circuit board or specter ?

[onyx ice]

I have a complaint, campaign wasn’t long enough, also the icon of sin, wasn’t violent enough, also not enough Kahn mayker boobs, ADD MORE KAHN MAYKER BOOBS

[mossy nova]

try ultra nightmare then

[onyx ice]

No, like I mean the icon of sin wasn’t bloody enough

[mossy nova]

um sir ultra nightmare makes all demons more aggresive and bosses too

[onyx ice]

I mean blood

The icon of sin, sound like it would have more, way more blood in its battle

[mossy nova]

theres a second phase in the icon of sin fight

where you strip off its flesh

[onyx ice]

Idk

Not enough blood still, like we should’ve stabbed his heart, cut off his head, then rip out his spine, then slice his testicles

[mossy nova]

thats now the how to kill a titan

[onyx ice]

?

[mossy nova]

you need a fucking crusible to take it down if you want more gore then use mods

[onyx ice]

Ik you need the crucible, that’s why you cut it with the crucible

[onyx ice]

Can you say that again? I don’t understand

It would be fucking awesome

[mossy nova]

the only way to kill or take down a titan like the icon of sin is with a crusible did you even see the end cutscene ?

[onyx ice]

I did

[azure oriole]

What other hilts

[onyx ice]

That’s why we would stab it’s heart, with the crucible, cut its head off with the crucible, rip out its spine with our hands, then cut its testicles with the crucible

[sonic talon]

Is it me, or does the Doom Hunter seem easier and faster to kill than the golden Angels?

[onyx ice]

Golden angels?

[rustic rampart]

If you are aware of the blood maykers and actively prioritizing them I find them easier than doom hunters

[onyx ice]

Is there two more monsters to kill to get the codex in the ancient gods 1 and 2? Because I’m missing two

[rustic rampart]

Missing demon entries?

[onyx ice]

Ya

[rustic rampart]

Do you have the DLC?

[onyx ice]

Yes I have deluxe edition

[rustic rampart]

Hmmm... I'm not sure why. If you've completed the campaigns then all demons should have a codex entry

[onyx ice]

Weird?

[rustic rampart]

You have completed all campaigns yes?

[onyx ice]

Yes, killed the icon of sin

[rustic rampart]

Wuddabout the ancient gods campaign 1 & 2?

[onyx ice]

No, that was why I was asking if there are two more in the ancient gods

[rustic rampart]

Ah okay, I understand now. Yes there are more demons in the DLC, I didn't know their entries could be seen from the base campaign though

[azure oriole]

That shouldn't be possible

[onyx ice]

Yesss, more demons to stab, ty

[rustic rampart]

No problemo

[onyx ice]

I don’t wanna know their names or anything about them tho, but there is one thing, over at the fortress of doom, on the computer file two, what is the code?

[azure oriole]

flynntaggart

[rustic rampart]

Flynntaggart

[onyx ice]

Lol

[burnt moss]

Hey is there a modern Quake game (that is single player)?

[rustic rampart]

Unlocks DOOM II

[onyx ice]

Thx

[torn sleet]

enter it in and you can play doom 2

[rustic rampart]

Enjoy

[onyx ice]

Sick, ty

[rustic rampart]

Any time

[onyx ice]

I already payed for doom two, I wish I would’ve known this before💀

[rustic rampart]

2 Doom IIs means twice the fun

[torn sleet]

speaking of which

[onyx ice]

Awesome

[torn sleet]

are there any achievements related to playing doom 1 and 2 in doom eternal

or are they just there as a fun easter egg

[rustic rampart]

Dunno, I play offline without achievements

[mossy nova]

fun fact: you can play doom 1 and doom 2 in doom eternal without any problem

[onyx ice]

Not achievement, but the Kahn mayker does say “I can give you what the demons took from you so long ago” I think a reference to daisy

[torn sleet]

I mean on the monitor in doomguy's office/lounge

not as a separate software

[mossy nova]

whats better specter or circuit board skin for plasma rifile

[rustic rampart]

What color is circuit board?

[onyx ice]

Also what doom do we see daisy in?

[mossy nova]

like a circuit bard but blue tht ahs has a circuit board theme

[rustic rampart]

We can see daisy in DOOM 1

[onyx ice]

When

[rustic rampart]

Sounds cooler than spectre

[mossy nova]

okay

[torn sleet]

i have a question

what is the best way to utilize the heavy assault rifle's micro missiles

[rustic rampart]

End of the game cutscene

[onyx ice]

Ty

[onyx ice]

What do you guys think of this reference?

[torn sleet]

probably not just daisy

[onyx ice]

Wdym?

Did doomguy have a family?

[torn sleet]

his home, family, relatively simple and boring job

[mossy nova]

im being forced to watch a movie for a stupid assignment

[onyx ice]

Where the fuck is this lore coming from

[mossy nova]

yes its under his desk

[torn sleet]

compared to night sentinels, bringing down giants, and killing god

[onyx ice]

I’m going to look there soon

[mossy nova]

its ripped prob hes face

doom guy ripped his own face off from the picture doom guy hates himself

[onyx ice]

Tell me all the lore, now

[mossy nova]

im doing my assignment if im doing something while explaining the lore it will be all wrong

[mossy nova]

and the family of doom guy wasnt even mentioned until eternal

[onyx ice]

What if they are one of the demons we kill, or maybe they are still alive

[torn sleet]

to think all this happened because he slugged his CO

[mossy nova]

the humans are demons too

[onyx ice]

What

[mossy nova]

because of the argent factory husk of human bodys turns into demons

[torn sleet]

doomguy was tranferred to mars as punishment for slugging his CO in the face

[onyx ice]

Was it because of his suit he was safe?

[mossy nova]

no

[flint flame]

You don’t

[torn sleet]

He wasn't in the processing line and he's been to hell plenty of times before without the old and new praetor suits

i'd say he built up resistance to hell's environment

[mossy nova]

like the vaccine

[torn sleet]

why

[mossy nova]

spread them

[onyx ice]

Wow, he seems depressed, but also not at the same time, I’m now surprised how he hasn’t stabbed himself with his suit yet

[mossy nova]

spread the micro missiles like a cheetah on high catnip

[flint flame]

It sucks

[azure oriole]

i mean true

[azure oriole]

Micro missiles are only good if you use the mastery but it eats up your ammo and you'll be asking yourself if it was worth it in the end

[mossy nova]

i have been doing pb rl quick switching so i can get used to it

[flint flame]

[mossy nova]

and my fingers are going weird now

[flint flame]

Or it could be that the devs didn’t want to show the doom slayers face until tag 2

[mossy nova]

okay

[azure oriole]

bad dev tbh

[flint flame]

Not quite, the hell invasion was always going to happen, and the whole doomguy having a piece of Davoth in him would have happened anyway

[burnt moss]

I quit Doom 1. Because I’m tired of using the pistol.

[sacred dirge]

Then don't use it

[azure oriole]

I always entertain the thought of what if doomguy called in sick that day, lols

[burnt moss]

You don’t keep your other guns when you die

[azure oriole]

Manual save!

[sacred dirge]

Ah. You're dying? Gotcha

Yeah quick saves should help his issue out.

[azure oriole]

The og doom manual tells you to save scum basically

[burnt moss]

I just started E3 with a pistol and it’s just SO BORING to empty mag after mag into these stupid demons

[spice condor]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-guh-cat-cat-gif-24943124

[burnt moss]

Is that even an OG feature?

[keen gorge]

Pistol start

[spice condor]

yes, you can literally save in the first ever version that even lacked nightmare

[azure oriole]

Yes, quick saves and manual saves

[burnt moss]

It has NM tho

[spice condor]

nightmare was added in version 1.2 if my memory serves

[azure oriole]

There's such a version?

[spice condor]

yes lol

[keen gorge]

Saving was a feature in the first release before Nightmare in 1993

[spice condor]

i could get screenshots if you want asiju

[azure oriole]

Please!

[keen gorge]

Now if only forced pistol starting was a 1993 feature

[quartz cobalt]

Hello

[azure oriole]

I got the original floppy / retail version in 1993 (yes it was actually sold in Europe as retail) but want to say it had nightmare diff.

[quartz cobalt]

Ouch

[spice condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951569115074670676/989030246240096286/nonightmare.jpg

[azure oriole]

Neat!

[quartz cobalt]

Damn no one noticed me gonna go take the walk of shame then

[burnt moss]

Feature? And I had to start with a pistol just now

[spice condor]

doom 1 was designed for pistol starting

[keen gorge]

The game was designed around pistol starts in every level to begin with and there are people who play it that way

Like me. I've done it with fast monsters too.

[spice condor]

i can get not liking pistol starting though. inferno can be especially a pain

[keen gorge]

Doom 2 pistol starts where that super shotgun isnt in every level and you have to earn it when it is

[azure oriole]

Hi

[spice condor]

true. makes you appreciate doom 2 more

[quartz cobalt]

Wait why are we talking about doom 1 in eternal chat why not in classic doom

[burnt moss]

I’m sorry but using a pistol on a swarm of imps, then a caco, and then a pinky is just stupid

[burnt moss]

I don’t wanna go in there. They’ll just talk about mods and wads and stuff. Besides why would I go in there to talk about why I don’t like the game?

[azure oriole]

To clarify the full version was sold as retail, of course.
The free shareware version also existed and the retail box was actually the exact same you'd get in US.

[keen gorge]

You get the shotgun in under a minute in almost every level

[azure oriole]

That's legit conversation. Many people say here they don't like eternal.

Yes they are sacrificed to khan maykr but they can still say it

[spice condor]

lol

[azure oriole]

Ah you just started Inferno?
Yeah level 1 of each episode is always a pistol start, there's no way around that.

[spice condor]

e3m1 makes you pistol cacos if you dont go around for the shotty

[azure oriole]

Yep

[spice condor]

kinda confused on why that was a greenlit idea

[burnt moss]

Yeah and I’d be fine with it if the enemies matched the pistol

[burnt moss]

Around? I only saw the one door

[spice condor]

one sec

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951569115074670676/989032828425605180/319px-E3M1_map.png

[burnt moss]

That’s not straightforward at all. It requires running past demons without shooting them, and more importantly already knowing what to do. If I wanted that sort of game I’d be playing Majora’s Mask right now.

[spice condor]

its literally just walking to the left

nothing like majoras mask at all

[burnt moss]

You have to go around the caco to do that. And also skip the right turn. Completely altering the room-clearing procedure I use. And my problem with it isn’t difficulty; it’s that I have to already know that that’s what I need to do.

Imagine if Eternal was like that. I don’t think I’d play it

[azure oriole]

I mean even if you don't "skip" fights that's still just a handful of enemies before the shotgun in e3m1.
Also it's a very good idea to eye out what rooms have in them before proceeding when you have branching paths.

Figuring out what order you should take rooms in is a part of og doom

[burnt moss]

Maybe it’s not for me then. I am not taking on several rooms with a pistol before I get a shotgun. And running from a pinky because I’m outgunned doesn’t feel like correct Doom strategy

[sacred dirge]

Running fast get the gun only takes a few seconds. If you're not having a good time though I'd just stick to eternal

[keen gorge]

Run past fodder and get shotgun. Only shoot hitscanners which die fast anyway. Like 20 seconds in most levels.

[spice condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951569115074670676/989036762594705408/e3m1.mp4

[burnt moss]

Again, I could watch walkthroughs and ask for help and learn the strategies if I wanted. But I hate the kind of game where I find myself wandering around forever trying to figure out what’s going on. Or dying all the time because it’s a trial and error thing.

[azure oriole]

Im not saying take on rooms but open doors / check inside.
If you had just eyed out the left room instead of going to the right you'd have seen the shotgun.

[sacred dirge]

You're honestly overthinking. Even giant classic doom maps take maybe 15 minutes max. It's not an adventure game

[spice condor]

my clip i posted is like 14 seconds and i waste time

[sacred dirge]

Your movement must be off or I don't know what else

[burnt moss]

I’ve spent like an hour on many of these maps. So many contrived key/door combo situations. And random ambushes etc.

[burnt moss]

I did just barely find out running was an option, in E2M8

[keen gorge]

Always run is an option

Enable it and just move fast

[spice condor]

I'll admit I got lost sometimes on my first run. But it's part of the fun to learn the levels.

[burnt moss]

Nono I mean I didn’t know you could run at all

[azure oriole]

He mean't there is a setting in game options to make you always run

[burnt moss]

Yeah I found that in E2M8

[keen gorge]

Thats what everyone does

[spice condor]

What version are you playing Voldeneye?

[sacred dirge]

Ah

[burnt moss]

Again if I wanted to get lost and wander I’d be playing Majora’s Mask. Or like reading a book. Anything less frustrating than trying to find the next hidden button or key or trigger to be permitted to move forward.

[burnt moss]

Switch

[spice condor]

majoras mask is a banger

didnt know if you were struggling with a poorly configured dos emulation or something

[burnt moss]

Never played it. I will get confused and spend hours wandering if it’s anything like OoT

[spice condor]

its not like OoT in a lot of ways

world is a lot smaller but simultaneously theres a lot more to do

nothing like doom in any way tho

hope you can find some enjoyment out of classic doom some day.

[azure oriole]

I agree though that modern games communicate objectives to the player a lot better than old games

@burnt moss I wholeheartedly recommend Doom 3 if you haven't played it yet

[spice condor]

90s doom is a lot just finding where you need to go and killing demons in between

yeah doom 3 slaps dont listen to the haters

[burnt moss]

Is Doom 2 worth my time? Or will I have the same beef as Doom 1?

[azure oriole]

Doom 2 has worse level design

Doom 2 is very similar

[lapis saddle]

Doom 2 is less mazey but has its own issues

Overall I love the first 2 games but yeah they have issues

[spice condor]

i still love 2 to death

[azure oriole]

Ofc you should play doom 2 at least to the second level so you experience the og super shotgun

[spice condor]

BAUUGH clip clop

[azure oriole]

Same. I prefer 2 over 1.

[lapis saddle]

Same

[azure oriole]

Actually doom 2 doesn't episodes but it's one continous progression so you have only pistol start in level 1

[burnt moss]

But do I lose all my guns each time I die?

[lapis saddle]

Yes but you can save at the start of each level to circumvent that pretty easily

[spice condor]

yeah... you can save in the main menu

and load that any time. you keep your guns and whatever else when you make a save

[lapis saddle]

You can save whenever you want so you can have checkpoints wherever you want

[spice condor]

yes there is zero limit on saving except for the amount of slots you can use

[azure oriole]

Yes but again, manual save.
That's the thing you have to learn in old games

[spice condor]

and you can save over previous saves

its not like new doom where it autosaves. you have to save on your own

[lapis saddle]

I love how classic Doom can have so much level variety and also such massive combat pieces. Some of the crazier WADs (modded campaigns) have hundreds of demons in one fight, and not hard separated in waves

The official games are way more reserved than that of course

[spice condor]

the switch has some custom levels too in the addons tab. nothing gets as spicy as some of the things people have made on pc, but stuff like btsx2 can get heated

[lapis saddle]

Yup

I’d love to see the port get Speed of Doom at some point.

[burnt moss]

Ok fine that level was super easy once I had a strat. Do all the levels have at least the shotgun?

[spice condor]

pretty sure.

[lapis saddle]

IDK about all, but if not all then nearly all

[spice condor]

you also will find the bfg in episode 3 >:)

[lapis saddle]

And every single level has something better than a pistol

Usually the shotgun but sometimes that’s the chaingun or rocket launcher as well

Plasma weapons are saved for later levels as they are incredibly powerful

[azure oriole]

Yes and remember every shotgunner also drops the shotgun.
Learn to quicksave every 5 minutes or so, also

Unless switch version doesn't have quicksaves for some unfathomable reason

[lapis saddle]

Switch version has quicksaves

[azure oriole]

Good

[spice condor]

yep

[burnt moss]

Ok but why did I have to punch a specter to death. Where’s the ammo?

I just made a 45 second level take 11 minutes

[azure oriole]

That's one problem esp doom 1 has, on higher diffs you are often starved on ammo.

Pick ups are skill level dependent but ammo amount doesn't fully scale to enemy count / type

I guess id wanted to emphasize resource management but it doesn't always work

This applies to ultra-violence though mostly and to nightmare but nm isn't a balanced difficulty in old dooms anyway

[lapis saddle]

Yeah in old Doom Nightmare is basically a troll difficulty

[sacred dirge]

Still feel it's something every doom fan should complete or at least attempt

And it's classic ;) ... not old haha

[lapis saddle]

UV makes you be stingy with ammo in Doom 1 but doing stuff like pistoling zombie guys helps a lot

I have attempted Doom 1 on NM. I stopped after a few levels because it was so exhausting

I may try again someday but not soon

[azure oriole]

thinking back this applies to UV and NM exclusively, don't really remember running low on ammo on HMP let alone lower diffs

and yeah do not waste rockets or energy cells on low tier enemies

btw pretty sure also that Doom 2 did ammo pickups better too

[lapis saddle]

I find that I rarely run low on ammo if I’m very careful to not waste any. Doom 2 is significantly more generous with ammo

[burnt moss]

Nope 🙂 if I complete the game once then that’ll be enough. On HMP :):)

[burnt moss]

I was (pleasantly) surprised that the plasma rifle was OP

[azure oriole]

I kinda wish new dooms had a similar "joke" nightmare difficulty in addition to the proper nightmare difficulty where enemies respawn after a while

[azure oriole]

yeah plasma rifle is very strong in classic dooms

[burnt moss]

Ever tried using gyro on a game where you can only aim left and right? I’m missing a ton. And of course unable to plan out my ammo because it’s my first run.

[lapis saddle]

Oh yeah plasma in general in classic Doom is balanced around being rare so you should save it for the scary demons

[azure oriole]

although Ig if you measure TTK a hell knight with plasma in Doom 2 and Eternal I'd fathom the figures are about the same, actually.
But ofc in eternal the same TTK is way too long given the pace

this is just to say plasma isn't that much weaker in new dooms than in classics but the new dooms and eternal especially require way more

also plasma rifle is borderline broken in doom 3

not that I complain

also the sound effects and esp the reload sound are pure ASMR

[burnt moss]

Ok why are there 8 switches for 4 doors. Some kind of puzzle?

[spice condor]

yes

[burnt moss]

That was freaking door-ception.

[spice condor]

e3m7. be prepared

[sonic talon]

The one that is invincible during their golden yellow-ish state, until they do the thing and turn it off revealing

Their Red State

You know the ones with the spear

They turn invincible in a golden like state

[mossy nova]

i have been practicing pb rl and im getting the swaps

[humble wyvern]

hi

:((

[lapis saddle]

The angels you’re describing are the Blood Maykrs

[onyx ice]

Like the tiny Kahn maykers?

[lapis saddle]

If you mean the ones introduced in the DLC, yes. If you mean the ones in Urdak, those are Maykr Drones

[sonic talon]

Yeah them

The Blood Makrys, I feel like they are harder than Doom Hunters

[azure oriole]

why

just shoot their head when shield is down

[sonic talon]

Idk man, I just feel like killing the doom hunter is so easy

[slow sigil]

bmaykr gets harder when theres actual demons to pressure you, diverting attention away from the bmaykr

[lapis saddle]

Also blood Maykrs are extra tricky on console because controller makes headshots difficult

[azure oriole]

doesn't controller have target snapping tho

[mossy nova]

i hate my dad for thinking that pausing the game on horde mode will help

but i take a break for a minute but i still hate him

[mossy nova]

even when i was in second arena or first arena

[tender sage]

Yes sorry, I went to go play and just when I finished playing I saw your reply

[azure oriole]

?

[ivory ore]

“I’m gonna hate my dad for simply trying to give advice on a game I’m playing” bruh

[mossy nova]

yes im dum and i still hate him

[neon otter]

how to solve no target problem: use seek and destroy rune

[ivory ore]

Aim better*

[jaunty vapor]

Seek and Destroy doesn't increase chainsaw range though, just glory kill range.

The only rune that affects glory kills and chainsaw is Blood Fueled.

[neon otter]

ok

[burnt moss]

Sorry, is bumping into a group of 3 fodder not enough targets?

[flint flame]

Look at the demon you’re chainsawing

[flint flame]

Doom eternal players and anger issues. I’m seeing a trend here.

[burnt moss]

Ya don’t say. What kind of person did you think would spend $60 on a game that rewards multiple methods of dismembering and destroying creatures?

[burnt moss]

So you’re arguing that chainsaw targeting isn’t broken?

[frigid walrus]

[neon otter]

guys help i have this xbox tag stuck to me I’m a pc player

[ember void]

What

You mean your server name?

[bold token]

Unfortunate

[neon otter]

Yes

e

[flint flame]

Literally what Mkain said, just aim

[flint flame]

The average person?

[burnt moss]

I think the average person finds this game too gross.

[tender sage]

lol

[pastel wigeon]

discord.. on xbox???

is that real

[ember void]

[burnt moss]

Someone who knows things…explain what’s actually happening here?

[sacred dirge]

Aiming

[fading monolith]

no

[burnt moss]

I mean the Xbox tag.

[azure oriole]

improving in this game is a fucking pain

i literally do everything to dodge stuff but somehow i still get bursted to 5 hp

and idk how to improve that and my game sense

[azure forum]

Lower your difficulty is a good starting point.

[azure oriole]

but then its extremely easy

the difficulty difference between uv and nightmare is very noticeable

[azure forum]

If ypu are having issues then ypu clearly aren't ready for the higher difficulty.

[azure oriole]

i beat sgn on ultranightmare and other stuff idk why i cant even beat mars core without getting softlocked

[azure forum]

Right, there's a gap between them. Put it this way. Nightmare focuses on killing quick and having awareness on health. You take more damage and demons are more aggressive. A good way to practice is to make sure you got your quick swap in good shape and that you know how to approach most demons.

[azure oriole]

i have good quickswap

i can do sticky pb, ssg pb, etc

although i struggle against mancubi pain elementals and archviles

the archviles waves are annoying to dodge my dumbass always try to jump over them

is it best to avoid jumping too much to dodge more easily?

[jaunty vapor]

No, literally the best way to survive is BEING in the air. How often do you do meathook jumps, and Ballista boosts + dashes to maximize your time in the air?

Or how often do you group enemies into one side of an arena before meathook jumping + ballista boosting to the other side of the arena?

Doing things like that, or hook - PB into fodder for armor + speed into bunny hops, allows you to avoid enemies very "easily".

Of course it also depends on the arena, there's no one strategy fits all

[azure oriole]

i always use meathook and dashes but i dont ballista boost often cuz im on console and have like a 70 sens

[jaunty vapor]

If you want my suggestion go to a Tyrant or something in a level on low difficulty, and using only meathook, ballista, and dashes, try to maximize your air time.

Even at low fps ballista boosts downward shouldn't be too hard. So you should be able to hook off the same enemy 3 times at least before hitting the ground

[azure oriole]

i always jump like crazy but i still get hurt alot by pain elementals and just ranged troops in general

[azure oriole]

alright

[jaunty vapor]

I will say just jumping around itself isn't great, though if you have air Control jumping so you can do immediate left/right strafes can let you easily dodge ranged attacks

But youll still get hit by stuff like Whiplashes, dreadk/hell knights, Marauders, etc unless you also use the environment (jumping from on top of stairs + dashing over them etc).

Again dependent on the arena and such

[azure oriole]

i do have air control i will try that ty for ur help

ur a life saver

[jaunty vapor]

Good luck. It's easy for anyone (including me) to try and give advice but admittedly a lot of it is so much muscle memory now it's hard to really nail down what in particular can help improve people without making paragraphs upon paragraphs of nonsense. XD

[dry perch]

use flame for armor

ez tips

[burnt moss]

Kill the demons

Of Doom

[drowsy pulsar]

Yes

[ember void]

[drowsy pulsar]

Ok

[azure oriole]

will id software ever touch this game again? i want them to fix those goddamn softlocks

[ember void]

they might return to it at some point in time but as with everything, you cannot get your hopes up.

[burnt moss]

OMG so true!

[azure oriole]

i doubt they will even touch it because they want the last update to have the funi 666 number

[azure oriole]

I could see them doing rev 3 with a quakecon skin but not much else

[jaunty vapor]

Honestly with the "angel" theme of Maykrs, 7.77 should have been the final update.

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-none-of-my-business-idc-idgaf-sips-tea-gif-8654313

[burnt moss]

Nah they already did 2 revs of the 6.66, they could do another without messing it up

[azure oriole]

they wouldve fixed the softlocks by then if they actually did something

[cyan frigate]

hows eternal treating us gamers!!!!!! how are my dooming gamers!!!

[azure oriole]

decent

anyone knows how to do the pb + rocket + lock on?

smvr uses it alot and idk how to do it

[cyan frigate]

pretty good gaming!!!! 😎😎

[cyan frigate]

i think sylar did a video on it he explained it pretty well

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/uwKCGtg6TtQ?t=592

[azure oriole]

can u show the video?

[cyan frigate]

i assume this is what youre talking about https://youtu.be/H_k7ZgLTXXw

[azure oriole]

yes

hehe

ty for the vid

practice

is ur lock on fully mastered?

where are u rn in the game are u new?

arc complex okay so dont worry about those fancy techs for now

[cyan frigate]

the gameplay in general or just the lock on tech?

[azure oriole]

btw do you have air control rune on?

[cyan frigate]

practice, at the risk of sounding mean its really generic high level gameplay in my opinion. are you on console or pc?

[azure oriole]

i think because u need to master it, like upgrading it

[cyan frigate]

yee upgrade gamer

[azure oriole]

yes because its fully mastered, just progress into the game and you will learn about mastery

pc is much easier to imrpove with so it shouldnt take you that long to improve

to reach those high lvl skills

[cyan frigate]

should be way easier for you to get into great movement and weapon swapping. so good news for you haha

[burnt moss]

A lot of people know it as SLOB

[azure oriole]

@tender sage one thing more, do you have the air control rune equipped?

[azure oriole]

i see

equip it and never unequip it ever again its the most important rune in the game and makes dodging attacks alot easier

[cyan frigate]

such a sexy i mean uhhh gross name for it 😳😳

[azure oriole]

slob sounds funny

[lusty magnet]

slob

[cyan frigate]

yee air control is easily the best rune in most players eyes, you get so much mileage out of it and the game feels awful without it lmao

[azure oriole]

id replace the long distance one with savagery tbh

[cyan frigate]

slob 😳😳

[burnt moss]

It’s a very specific sequence of buttons to make it work. I personally can’t do it. And I’ve beaten the whole game on NM.

[azure oriole]

does battlemode have air control or not? i heard it doesnt

[cyan frigate]

it doesnt unfortunately

[azure oriole]

no its not lol its just hold right click then 2 left clicks for double lock on

[lusty magnet]

Idk

[azure oriole]

whats the 3rd rune u have?

its ok you will improve

[burnt moss]

Sylar Lock On Burst

[cyan frigate]

hey man we all start from somewhere its all good! you got this gamer 😎😎😎

[cyan frigate]

bu but slob seggsier

[azure oriole]

replace that with air control

[lusty magnet]

what even is slob?

[azure oriole]

weapon combo

[lusty magnet]

that is the worst and best nickname

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/wHhL6Xu3jiU @tender sage heres a guide if u need it

[strange gale]

you get the infinite lock by just having the two lob upgrades, btw

[burnt moss]

SLOB requires that you start with an automatic weapon, hold fire while swapping to rocket launcher, then hold the mod button while spamming the fire button.

[azure oriole]

oh i thought u were talking about the normal lock on not the combo mb

[burnt moss]

I planned never to play NM. But after playing the other difficulties, and then beating TAG, NM became achievable. I die several times per level still.

[azure oriole]

freeze + destroyer blade

[burnt moss]

#doom-eternal message

[azure oriole]

np

[burnt moss]

Yeah I’m mostly done with the game. UN tests some attributes I don’t feel like perfecting.

[burnt moss]

What’s infinite lock?

[strange gale]

you know, the component of slob where the lock-on is never disengaged

[azure oriole]

i also love it its also one of my favorite

[burnt moss]

Huh I’m not familiar with that. But for SLOB you definitely need LOB mastered.

[vast creek]

how is doom eternal if it aint actually eternal

[strange gale]

nah, slob works without mastery. you do get the regular old slow fire rate, but infinite lock is still very useful in early/mid game fights where you're already facing heavies that don't die in one burst

[flint flame]

Doom temporary, anime eternal

[burnt moss]

Really? I thought SLOB worked by tricking the launcher into thinking the marauder is two targets and locking on him twice?

[ember void]

metal gear solid

metal gear gas

[azure oriole]

🙀

[flint flame]

Noble gas gear solid

[azure oriole]

insane

[flint flame]

I paid attention in year 10 chemistry

[azure oriole]

can’t relate

[burnt moss]

Metal gear plasma

[ivory ore]

Plastic gear

[sacred dirge]

Whipped

[flint flame]

Cream

[azure oriole]

pretty good ngl

[ember void]

Cream

[azure oriole]

whipped

[ivory ore]

Cool hwhip

[azure oriole]

Best song in eternal is the map ambience

[burnt moss]

YOU’RE EATING HAIR!

[azure oriole]

Menu theme is mid

Most music in the game is mid

"Music"

[azure oriole]

Incredible Profile Picture brother.

[flint flame]

[mossy nova]

i like meat hook bfg division and cultist base ost

[ember void]

i dont

[azure oriole]

same

[burnt moss]

Hi, my name is Voldeneye and I like using Extra Lives

They’re like little horcruxes

[flint flame]

Year 1

[kind harness]

so i finished the game killed the icon of sin but i dont have the icon of sin collectable?

[ember void]

You didn't get all the toy collectables

[kind harness]

oh i need all those

[ember void]

yuh

[kind harness]

there goes my life, see you in 3 years

[burnt moss]

We can help you find them. Just ask

[mossy nova]

how to get circuit board chaingun

[gray rivet]

What event is the carbon fiber plasma rifle

[sacred dirge]

I believe that was 12

With keen

[mossy nova]

the waters in the blood swamps are green blood because of the sulfur magma of hells terrain but idk how the blood swamps has no magma

[wispy garden]

Cursed prowlers and 3 archviles fml

I beat it on nightmare and ancient gods 1 and 2 im trying the master levels now

I cant even imagine ultra nightmare with some of these mobs. Has anyonr actually beat ultra nightmare without exploiting any glitches in the game?

[azure oriole]

Byeah.. looking back I'm not entirely sure if it was worth it

[wispy garden]

Those cursed prowlers, they wait behind a super heavy , teleport, curse you, and then teleport vegind a superheavy and it just pushes you away until youre dead

Behind ***

[azure oriole]

That's why I memorize spawns to minimize bs like this

[wispy garden]

Good idea. Is there a spawn map i can google?

[azure oriole]

Not to my knowledge. I have the spawns memorized cause I used to replay the shit out of this game

[wispy garden]

Id ask you to draw me up a map of the hardest areas if it wasnt such a big request

[azure oriole]

So I was playing through campaign and wondering why it seems I can't msc from lock on burst.
Then I realized I haven't got remote det so I can't modswap...

[azure oriole]

Magma doesn't seem to be inherent to all of Hell. Several regions, such as the Great Steppe and Kadingir Sanctum, are shown to be relatively bereft of lava and magma. In the case of the Great Steppe, it is merely a wasteland of rock and sulfur and Kadingir Sanctum similarly lies on the borders between the Steppe and the Umbral Plains (which, as we see in Eternal, are much more lava-filled and unbearably hot).

One small steppe for man, one great steppe for mankind

In the case of the Blood Swamps, lava isn't naturally here because the area used to be aquatic. According to the Codex it used to be called "the Pleasure Lakes" back when Hell was Jekkad. I personally get the feeling the Blood Swamps are moreso called this because the place is packed to the brim with corpses and waste. I would imagine the transformation from heavenly Pleasure Lakes to an acidic, poisonous bog is because the Lakes were literally overflowing with corpses and rot thanks to Davoth's conquests.

[sacred dirge]

Loved the vibe of titans realm

[azure oriole]

Yeah it's all very cool.

My personal favorite depiction of Hell is Nekravol.

I love Nekravol's architecture, how it feels like a Hell monolith. 2016 Hell is very cool but suffers from mostly being rocky plains, which is kinda like if I had 4 levels of a game set in America and all were rural neighborhoods and the like.

In general Eternal does a fantastic job highlighting Hell's diverse regions - you get a look at the Umbral Plains in the second half of Exultia, a look at a Hell city in Nekravol, then you get to see a Jekkad holy-place-turned-acid-swamp in Blood Swamps, and finally Immora itself.

It feels like the level of environmental diversity the OG Doom strived for with levels like Mt. Erebus and Dis.

[sacred dirge]

Monolith is a fantastic way to put it. It honestly is in every sense

[rustic rampart]

What level?

[mossy nova]

i have found the source why for some reason i suck at moments

my back and neck hurts

[rustic rampart]

If the level you speak of is in the base game and not a mod then yes I have beaten it on UN

[mossy nova]

now i will take a break for a minute or 1 hour

[burnt moss]

He said master levels

[rustic rampart]

That's still base game tho right? In any case ive done all those on UN too

[burnt moss]

With the exception of World Spear I guess the MLs could be considered base game

[rustic rampart]

Why is the world spear the exception?

[mossy nova]

because its dlc ML ?

[rustic rampart]

Oh yeah.

Forgot you need the DLC for that one

[mossy nova]

can my neck hurting cause bad performance ?

[ember void]

Probably.

[rustic rampart]

Yes

[ember void]

Holy shit dude if you are playing doom so much to the point where your neck is in physical pain then I think it's about time you press the power button on that ps4.

[mossy nova]

okay thx i taught i was just getting bad

[mossy nova]

trash laptop*

[ember void]

My point still makes it across.

[mossy nova]

yes

[rustic rampart]

Why is your neck hurting?

[mossy nova]

staring at my screen while my laptop screen is lifted by the stand underneath my laptop

i used to lay head on the side of my laptop

[rustic rampart]

Huh

Interesting

[ancient plaza]

yes, take a break bro

[fair hedge]

Idk where else to ask this so does anyone know why the command to unlock all missions won't work?

[verbal frigate]

Would any PS4 players be able to assist me with some online trophies?

[azure oriole]

do you have meathook installed?

the mod / .dll file

p sure you need that for that command

@jaunty vapor did you know that remote detonation is actually a crucial mod to have? No joke

[fair hedge]

Where would I get that file?

Sorry I don't know much about this stuff lmao

[azure oriole]

just google doom eternal meathook from nexusmods

[fair hedge]

Alr thx

[azure oriole]

it's a single .dll file you drop into the game folder

and it unlocks the full console

including custom commands to spawn in enemies

[fair hedge]

Oooo

I've been looking for something to unlock console but google was not helping whatsoever

[azure oriole]

nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/851

[fair hedge]

I should extract it into the game's folder right?

[azure oriole]

yup and that's it

[fair hedge]

Not into the base folder, right?

[azure oriole]

to the same folder that has the executable

doometernalx64vk.exe

[fair hedge]

Alr

One more thing, are there commands for getting all sentinel crystal upgrades, runes, and praetor upgrades?

[azure oriole]

pretty sure yes but can't recall

you should be able to find a full command list somewhere

[fair hedge]

Maybe give all works

Time to find out lmao

Thanks though, I appreciate it :)

[vivid cliff]

eternal guides be like
"Ok heres how to quickly kill X heavy"
*does the most elaborate combo ever with no explanation

[slow sigil]

meanwhile most heavies dont even have that much HP to warrant elaborate combos

[vivid cliff]

its usually tyrant marauder lol

[lapis saddle]

Superheavies are pretty tanky

[slow sigil]

technically not heavies

[vivid cliff]

i just kill tryrants by magdumping lock on burst

[azure oriole]

rewatching Maxor's review of Eternal (part about TAG 2):
"...as I used this I became more obsessed with hammers than Bob the fucking Builder"

[azure oriole]

give all, if you have dev commands unlocked

If you want list of all commands you can do listCmds and ListCvars and then do condump console, and it will dump all the text in a text file at C:\Users\username\Saved Games\id Software\DOOMEternal\base\console.txt Then you have a list of all of them which you can go through. OH BEFORE YOU DO, write 'clear' so your console is clear, so you don't have to cut the other debugging errors out but just get the cvars and cmds. Cause otherwise it will have EVERYTHING in the console in the text and not just those things which you want.

[mossy nova]

i have now reached 269 hours in doom eternal the funny number

[azure oriole]

nice

[shy rain]

Welp, eternal's as buggy as ever

[mossy nova]

on saturday my dads friend is gonna buy me rip and tear pack

[shy rain]

loaded my save file and it's just void, no graphics, lol

[mossy nova]

im too broke to buy it own my own

[mossy nova]

its not that buggy for me even tho on my trash laptop

where every texture is lag

[azure oriole]

The more 3rd party mods you load the more buggy doom can get, it's more that which is the general issue. It's pretty much more or less bug or crash free if you barely have any mods. It's incompatibility everytime they make a slight update some of them get wonky.

[mossy nova]

whats the best opacity for style and other things that i could see for the hud ?

[azure oriole]

idk, it's personal, i have 75 myself i can't remember what default is

[mossy nova]

same i cant remember it

and whats the best gamma for style

[azure oriole]

i use 1.4, near max. I don't like this unnecessary dark stuff. I think 1.5 is max

[mossy nova]

can i balance cinematic mode with low gamma ?

[azure oriole]

That is very personal preference how light or dark you want it and all these things, it's hard for me to really say, try experimenting with the settings. And it also ofcourse has to do with how your monitor settings are too

[mossy nova]

okay

[zealous vector]

i just use my lightsaber for them

[marble orchid]

hello guys, does anyone here have a video of Slayer making a slaughter?

[azure oriole]

❔

[marble orchid]

Sorry, I'm from another country, I don't understand much English But I asked: Does anyone have a video of the slayer killing the demons

did you understand?

[slow sigil]

theres videos everywhere of people killing demons, just about any gameplay vid

[strange gale]

x then y then z = elaborate 😱

[azure oriole]

😄

[azure forum]

😄

[ancient plaza]

Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stJ-d8ua6lY&t=95s

[smoky tulip]

Hey! How can I see when new challenges are going to be active?

[flint flame]

There should be a timer

[smoky tulip]

I'm confused now. In the game, you mean?

[flint flame]

You do mean weekly challenges right? It shows a timer next to it in game

[languid gull]

where do i out photo

[azure oriole]

pb rocket or slob is the fastest way to kill stuff what do you need a guide

[languid gull]

s

[azure oriole]

#screenshots

[burnt moss]

I don’t understand the point of PB rocket. SSG does more damage.

[ember void]

You're able to do it quick and it has pretty high dps. splash damage is also cool I suppose.

[azure oriole]

yep

[frigid walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/doomslayer-glory-kill-doom-gif-16808615

[ember void]

[frigid walrus]

[burnt moss]

I get the splash damage, but can you actually do PB Rocket faster than a single SSG blast?

[ember void]

Can you base-fire ssg as fast as the pb rocket combo?

[burnt moss]

I think I can fire 1 gun in the time it takes to fire 2, yeah. Unless you know differently?

Actually you need to do PB-Rocket-PB in the time it takes to fire SSG, in order to beat it damage-wise.

[azure oriole]

You can do pb rocket easily twice in the time it takes for ssg to fire and reload.
Ofc you can also do pb ssg (or punchswaps etc)

[flint flame]

480p 3 fps gameplay

[burnt moss]

That’s not 3. It’s at least, like, 7

[ember void]

around about 10

[burnt moss]

No way. 9.5 at most.

[azure oriole]

tom boutta hit with a wall of text...

[ember void]

LOL

[strange gale]

to start off, ssg max damage is 1600. pb rocket max is 1300. with the 1.25x headshot multiplier you get 2000 and 1625 damage respectively.

1. different usage range (beyond point blank, max ssg damage is only consistent on tyrants because they take more damage per pellet). position yourself any farther than point blank, and ssg will start doing comparable (in lots of cases less) damage to a single cycle of pb rocket. being in point blank range after a single ssg shot is unsafe unless you spend resources (equipment, bp) or keep single dashing around your target. what's actually necessary depends on the target (barons fold to single dash circling). outside of point blank, pb rocket tends to beat out ssg in terms of time to kill and ammo efficiency.

2. killing everything with shells is inefficient. for example, marauders take 750 damage max from ssg (12 shells and change to kill). i'm sure you know just how fast the double slob one cycle is, and spending half of your rockets on a single enemy isn't anywhere near as bad as spending half your shells (ssg is generally stronger when paired with good movement, i consider it a better workhorse than pb rl). whiplashes and hell knights barely ever take max damage, even at point blank.

3. better combo routes (outside of point blank, what a surprise. ssg pcancel grants fast state if the punch makes contact with an enemy, and in that case you get mostly the same combo routes as pb rocket. exclusively within point blank.)

pb > rl > slob works from a much higher number of ranges than ssg contact pcancel > slob, so does pb msc > rl msc > bal msc > rl..., so does pb > sb > rl > bal, you get the point. killing fast state w/ ssg doesn't particularly matter if you're in point blank range because you can always cancel into blood punch. that gives you a falter and enough time to clean your room and still start a new combo.

4. ssg is terrible against possessed enemies (except pos. maras when paired w/ hammer). pb > rl > slob meta.

ssg is a generally applicable workhorse, but in lots of cases there are more specific and stronger options.

could write more about this, but it'd just be more nerdy specifics.

[azure oriole]

any efficient way to kill a mancubus? i cant avoid their projectiles at close range so dk

[ember void]

pb

yup. that's all I had to say.

[azure oriole]

pb + what

rocket or sticky bomb?

[ember void]

whatever breaks weakpoints

[loud prairie]

has hugo cosigned this?

[opal galleon]

I believe Josh has acknowledged it

[azure oriole]

id Software read it.

They are in the process of carefully rewording it so they can sell it as the lore book

[sullen depot]

I've been playing this game forever now and I'm still puzzled on this question

Is it a movement shooter? Is it a boomer shooter? Is it a retro shooter?

[flint flame]

Shooty shoot game

[sullen depot]

Idk what genre that games like doom eternal, ultrakill, and shadow warrior 3 fall into

[sullen depot]

True

But seriously does anyone have an answer to this?

What category of fps do these games fall into?

[slow sigil]

movement shooters i imagine

[strange gale]

i don't think trying to put it into a specific category is very productive because it features design influences from so many sources (including these) that it kinda evades any categorization other than fps. fellow Q enjoyer in the wild btw

[azure oriole]

Pb bal the cannons first thing, then just kinda do whatever.
Ssg bal or ssg rocket will kill.

[azure oriole]

The first one really.
It shares dna with old school shooters but eternal is really its own thing with combat

[azure oriole]

Also pb rocket x 3 is a kill.
Land the pb shots on the cannons for maximum effectiveness

[slow sigil]

i dont think you can call eternal fully a boomer shooter, "arcady movement shooter" with boomer and retro vibes would maybe be fairly close to describing it?

[sullen depot]

It's just that when I tell people what kind of shooters I like, they get confused lol

[strange gale]

i'd say something like "think titanfall but with a lot of resource management"

[lapis saddle]

Boomer shooter adjacent

[strange gale]

even if the comparison doesn't hold up upon closer inspection, it's still a good inkling of what has specifically been synthesized to create doom eternal, cause overloading a conversation with specifics usually doesn't help with understanding something

[burnt moss]

I forgot about headshot bonus.
And I do agree with the range issues. I didn’t know that SSG was buffed or nerfed against certain enemies.

[wispy garden]

I like the slayer man cave on the doom ship where it stores the collectibles. I wish there was more stuff in there like a vinyl player to look through the albums and a skin viewer and customizer

[azure oriole]

2000 in the very theoretical situation all ssg pellets land on the head.
P sure only icon has that big of a head, lols (and probably doesn't even count as headshot there)

[azure oriole]

Like lucitik said choose your weapons / combos based on situation.

[burnt moss]

But like how would I know that Whiplashes weren’t taking full damage from SSG?

[sacred dirge]

Personally I see new doom as quake and classic doom having a baby. Added mechanics mind you but since I play those games exclusively I see the game play mirrored in eternal often

[azure oriole]

They aren't nerfed but it's virtually impossible to land all pellets on those slithering dick suckers.
Max damage = all pellets land

Tyrants and barons take increased damage per pellet but the max is still capped at 1600

[azure oriole]

Fire the SSG on a wall a few feet away and see how wide the spread is.
SSG is a point blank weapon really (and movement tool but that's another thing)

[azure forum]

The ballista looks so cool without any mod attached to it

[azure oriole]

It does

[lavish talon]

Just bought the game, rn installing it

[thorny crag]

Is it just me or does full heat blast make the plasma rifle look like an old man without teeth smiling

[honest locust]

I think that might just be you

[severe stream]

jesus christ, what kind of old men have you SEEN?

[thorny crag]

Yeah it's definitely just me

[snow sand]

Lmao what

[weary perch]

The slayers fight is eternal.

[strange gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/989595423331205120/Doomiphobia2.png

[weary perch]

Yep

[pure iris]

Hey lucitik:D

Guess who made the keyboards and some other stuff in our school

[kind obsidian]

I just finished the ancient gods part 1

[gray rivet]

Sick

[jaunty wigeon]

how big is doom eternal on the switch? help.bethesda.net says it's 18gb but the eshop says 33gb

[burnt moss]

Who

[burnt moss]

Well, there’s Joe

[pure iris]

It was lucitik

[burnt moss]

33, but TAG didn’t require an additional download when I bought it separately

[jaunty wigeon]

shit

[gray rivet]

Yea

[jaunty wigeon]

i forgot to buy an sd card

[burnt moss]

Lucitik works for a keyboard manufacturer?

[pure iris]

Im talking about Logitech

[burnt moss]

Is the joke that they sound similar?

[pure iris]

https://youtube.com/shorts/H-VItggRvWA?feature=share

Its a joke about this shit

[gray rivet]

Ah

[burnt moss]

Lucitik is famous enough to be in a meme?

[pure iris]

Apparently

[zealous pawn]

lucitik

or babaji

[pure iris]

Babajé~

[sacred dirge]

I feel this

[burnt moss]

What is babajii? What are they saying?

[pure iris]

PUBG

[zealous pawn]

bro i buy doom

[burnt moss]

Ok now what’s PUBG?

[sacred dirge]

[pure iris]

Players unknown battle grounds

[zealous pawn]

[burnt moss]

A site?

[gray rivet]

Cores t

[pure iris]

No its a battle royale game from tencent games, they tried to sue fortnite for copying their game and fucked up

[zealous pawn]

where are living

im say somebody

[burnt moss]

What?

[jaunty wigeon]

why the fuck does it come with TAG

can i download it without TAG on the switch?

[gray rivet]

You should be able to

[jaunty wigeon]

it probably won't even let me download it

because 33 gig and i have 32

[gray rivet]

Fuck.

[burnt moss]

I didn’t even know I was downloading TAG at the same time. I just know it didn’t require a download to unlock TAG a few months later.

[terse sun]

Hello

[jaunty wigeon]

i'm gonna buy the game but i'll wait for an sd card to arrive in a couple of days

a 64gb sandisk card

since eternal is 98,67 rn

[terse sun]

looks like lot of peops left

wait no acutally everyone still here

[gray rivet]

Hi deathless

[jaunty wigeon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/297516776483454976/989615533215322132/2022062316364400-57B4628D2267231D57E0FC1078C0596D2.jpg

lets fucking GOOOOOO

[sacred dirge]

And so it begins

[jaunty wigeon]

i already begun i just wanted the switch version

i played it on gamepass

[neon nova]

One of the best things about eternal is the meathook

[jaunty wigeon]

the fact this is on my homescreen but i don't have an sd card like it's taunting me

[gray rivet]

Yea that feeling is the worst

[burnt moss]

That’s an expensive downgrade

[terse sun]

Ay!

[terse sun]

ha u also play on switch

[jaunty wigeon]

at least i actually own the game now

instead of "owning" it

[flint flame]

Yes ofc, everyone left as soon as you entered the chat. Oh the misery!

[terse sun]

?

[flint flame]

My sarcasm was too strong I see

[terse sun]

oh i remember u

[sacred dirge]

We all leave now bye

[terse sun]

my old nickname was ninjagecko14 ninjagek or ryth idk

[random vault]

oh the missouri

[edgy fjord]

everybody wants to be my enemy

[random vault]

spare the sympathy

[terse sun]

everyone wants to be my enemee

(look out for yourself)

[ember void]

[terse sun]

cmon bro why u do tht

[burnt moss]

What were you playing on before? Buy it for that instead haha

[edgy fjord]

ah! so sorry!

[jaunty wigeon]

gamepass PC

my PC also barely ran it so

[random vault]

allalalalalalalal

[ember void]

[random vault]

so true pyro 🥺

[burnt moss]

Fair

[sacred dirge]

Potato pc gang

[burnt moss]

That Spider-Man he is my enemy

[floral ore]

what is event xp even based off of? i just got 5900 xp from exultia on a new save file and someone said levels usually give 70-80k

[terse sun]

my mom my enemy

[floral ore]

oh the misery

[terse sun]

everyone wants to be my enemy

[floral ore]

spare the sympathy

[terse sun]

and is your pfp someone drinking marmalade

SORRY WRONG COPY PASTE

[floral ore]

how

[terse sun]

everyone wants to be my enemy

[floral ore]

where‘d you even

[floral ore]

where did you get THAT copy paste????????

[terse sun]

hehe another server

[floral ore]

where were you even looking?!

[terse sun]

ay u still got that pfp awesome bro!

[floral ore]

does anyone know?

[terse sun]

been a while since i plaed

played too much splatoon now im rusty af

[burnt moss]

I was so sure it would work! Idk why it’s not giving you good XP. I’m on Switch, maybe I get a handicap lol

[limpid orchid]

Sup guys somebody know how to enter in the slayers club from doom eternal?

[floral ore]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en

is it the difficulty?

nah, i played final sin with cheat codes on itytd and i got like 71k

and now i got 10k

[limpid orchid]

Thank you

[valid wren]

uh, am i wrong or this channel is for doom eternal

[terse sun]

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-blade-infinity-blade2-raidriar-god-king-pommel-gif-23952391

[valid wren]

💀

[terse sun]

oh wrong chat sorry

[valid wren]

Skulll

[terse sun]

no u

[valid wren]

No me what? skull?

[terse sun]

no u

[valid wren]

[sacred dirge]

[terse sun]

who here lvl 200

[flint flame]

Level 200? That’s nothing

[terse sun]

ok

i should go back to playing maybe

[burnt moss]

What if it’s based on time?

[floral ore]

google only says campaign missions, but not what to do in those campaign missions

and i‘m too horrible at this game to speedrun

[shadow matrix]

do you play doom?

yo who is deathless???

weird name

deathless looks like one of those chinese boys

hes immortal

[floral ore]

https://tenor.com/view/tuga-numeiro-gif-18302117

[sacred dirge]

Name checks out

Wait thought it said brain

[royal path]

Anyone know if the Steam DOOM Eternal Year One Pass will work on my PC Game Pass install of Eternal?

Surely it'll share the same Bethesda account?

[flint flame]

[royal path]

The next question is whether progress and Xbox accomplishments will carry over?

[opal galleon]

[flint flame]

Progress no, dlc likely not

[loud prairie]

cdkeys cheaper

[flint flame]

The Bethesda account literally does nothing except hold slayers club skins

[royal path]

Ugh.

Thanks, was hoping the MS store would have sale too, but nah.

So, my best solution is buying via MS store?

[slow panther]

Am I the only one who thinks that the brightness of ammo dropped when chainsaw is annoying over time even lower the setting of loot drop brightness to 0. I know this a nitpick but when I play the game for long time it feels distracting. I know there is a mod to fix this, but I hope there will be option in the next game to choose loot drop colour style.

[floral ore]

that was one mindfuck to read but i don‘t think id will add any more features

[slow panther]

I hope in the next game, just like the UI colour option.

[vague jasper]

So for the Doom any percent run I was reading some of the rules and it says that you can play on any difficulty you want. Is there any reason to play on the higher difficulties in that category?

I guess besides just wanting to challenge yourself a little bit

[mossy nova]

Difficulty slider should be locked on a higher difficulty like Nightmare ultra nightmare and others

[vague jasper]

For the speedrun.com page for just an unrestricted classic run, it says any difficulty can be ran besides ultra nightmare and extra life mode

So I was just wondering if there's any advantage to running higher levels of difficulty

[mossy nova]

And should be a setting

[vague jasper]

I feel like there's a miscommunication here

[mossy nova]

Im off topic this is a random thought that i had

[vague jasper]

Oh okay lmao, I thought you were responding to me. And therein lies the miscommunication

[plain panther]

Hello! New to the server here, just wondering how many switch players there are for eternal, it's on sale and I've been thinking about trying it :3

[bleak ocean]

There's a few but its not optimal on switch

[plain panther]

Yeah, but my laptop probably has a lesser chance to run it and the sale won't last forever v.v

20 bucks...... I sorta think it's worth it. The game is still the same even if the graphics are worse

[bleak ocean]

You can go for it if you want to personally I wouldn't play it on switch even tho I have a switch and like the game

[plain panther]

I mean, you probably have a better console to play it on

[bleak ocean]

I play it on pc

[plain panther]

Exactly, I have a switch and laptop XD the laptop is not good enough to run it. It barely runs stuff like TF2 well

[bleak ocean]

Its just not as enjoyable to play on a controller especially not with switchs input delay

[plain panther]

Input delay?

[bleak ocean]

Its a really fast paced game

It suffers a lot from the input delay

[plain panther]

What do you mean by input delay, like is it a switch thing or specifically with doom in switch?

[bleak ocean]

Just with switch not just with doom

Its the time it takes for the action to happen in game when you press the button on your controller

[vague jasper]

The switch is mostly a casual console so it's not usually noticeable, but with a game like Doom it's going to kill you a lot

[plain panther]

How many frames is it?

[bleak ocean]

How many frames does doom run on switch?

[vague jasper]

I'm pretty sure on switch it runs at 30, but with frame drops not super uncommonly

[bleak ocean]

30 fps

[midnight sparrow]

I assume your talking about the Eternal port right? From reviews I’ve heard the game mostly stays at 30FPS during gameplay and runs at 20FPS during cutscenes right?

[plain panther]

I mean how many frames of input delay does switch have in general

[midnight sparrow]

It’s not horrible at least 2016 on the switch was pretty responsive. Panic Button imo did a great job on that port.

[bleak ocean]

You don't count it in frames you count it in time

[vague jasper]

Honestly I haven't really kept up with it, I just remembered near the beginning of when the port was released people were complaining a lot about the frame rate and the frame drops

It very well could have been better optimized since then though

[plain panther]

Oop, accident

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah. Some people here who play on switch seem to say it isn’t so bad, hell I’ve seen videos on YouTube of people beating UAC Atlantica on the switch and that alone seems like a daunting task.

[plain panther]

So, if I do well I'm just goated? >.>

XD

[vague jasper]

Oh God I can't even imagine. Honestly I think the only big selling point is that it's doom on the go, which to be fair is a pretty damn good selling point

[vague jasper]

Honestly every achievement on switch is 10 times more impressive LMAO

[plain panther]

I really haven't noticed any input delay on fast paced games like Splatoon 2 or fighting games/etc..... If the delay is the same it shouldn't be at all a problem

[vague jasper]

True, but most games like that especially Splatoon 2 are built from the ground up for the switch

[plain panther]

Yeahhhhh v.v

[vague jasper]

There's definitely a universal delay which isn't too bad, but the potential stress on the hardware will only make it worse

[plain panther]

Unfortunate, I wanna try funny demon killer game v.v

[vague jasper]

I would definitely still give it a try, it's just not the best way to play

[plain panther]

I'm still on the fence I guess, this didn't help too much, is there anyone here rn that plays on switch only?

[vague jasper]

I kind of wish we had rolls depending on what device you played on

Would make this kind of convo a lot easier

[plain panther]

Yeah most other game discords I know of do that....

I probably have a gift card somewhere...... >.> I can try it XD

[vague jasper]

Honestly I'm probably going to buy it too. I just got a job at the zoo and we have like an hour and a half long lunch break, fully paid

[plain panther]

Noiceeeee

[opal galleon]

DE on switch is for what it is. I've done everything on it there and if it's your only real way to play DE then it's not a bad investment

[plain panther]

I've got a fifteen dollar check from my birthday and I'm gonna be getting hours at my job soon. I'm good to buy it 😎