doom-eternal

[real holly]

i love it ❤️

[gilded tinsel]

I wonder what it would be like to fight 5 spirit buff totem empowered marauders who are all invisible

[gentle shale]

That's how the world spear master level in nightmare feels like lowk

[gilded tinsel]

LOL wtf I just blood punched a demon and got launched fast asf

[austere bronze]

if you're interested in the mechanics behind it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWF_-yFLhiw

[real holly]

how it feels to accidentally do a movment glitch and fly 500 kilometers in the air

i once did that in world spear master level and skipped 2 long ass encounters

[gilded tinsel]

i was trying to download some mods since I saw i could download custom skins for the doom slayer but none of them exactly work

well like the ones that change the color work yeah but the ones that say they change the model don’t

[gilded tinsel]

I saw someone reload cancelling with the shotgun by punching and i’ve been trying to do it but idk how to

[austere bronze]

you often need to equip a specific skin, which either the description mentions or in the name of the mod

[austere bronze]

you need to first apply the fast swap effect (FSE) to the combat shotgun, which is usually done by firing a precision bolt and then swapping to the combat shotgun (can be done in tons of ways though), then it's just: fire, melee, repeat

howeverr, the timing for this is quite precise

[austere bronze]

punch cancelling the stickies differs from all other punch cancels though, since otherwise you need to press the weapon's bind after meleeing

[gilded tinsel]

okay then one last question 😅 do you know how i can do custom levels and go up against certain demons I wanna get good against

[austere bronze]

if you want to learn sticky punch cancels, i'd recommend first learning pb+rocket, then either punch cancels with the ssg or ballista or pb+sticky

[austere bronze]

do you mean how to create custom levels? i have no idea how to do that, you can however spawn in demons with commands

spawn ai/[demon class]/[demon name]
for example: spawn ai/superheavy/tyrant
spawn ai/heavy/mancubus_fire

[gilded tinsel]

ohhhhh that makes more sense I was only asking since I saw a video on youtube of someone going up against multiple marauders at once

[gilded tinsel]

okay now it’s time to fight 6 icons of sin

[quiet cloud]

dont u need meathook for this ?

[quiet cloud]

ye u can do that by punch cancelling

[austere bronze]

if you're on the mod portan, no
if you use the injector though, you need the meathook mod, and replace spawn with chrispy

[quiet cloud]

gotchu gotchu

i do use injector sooo

u can see why i had the confusion

[austere bronze]

for sure, i should've mentioned that it's not the same on the portal and with the injector

[quiet cloud]

also

any new custom levels released recently ?

[austere bronze]

like a fully custom level, or just a master level?

[quiet cloud]

any kind of level

[austere bronze]

i think the latest custom level was blighted base

though quan released a world spear level on nexus like 2 weeks ago

though it's very cbt (not as bad as doom hunter base though)

and there's the different chinese levels ofc, including a mars core one released about when quan's level was released

[quiet cloud]

i alr did blighted base and i hate all and every world spear level with a passion

so ig ill revisit a random level for now

[gentle shale]

I am going to summon 600 cyber mancubus and slime them all with the bfg

[quiet cloud]

how to crash ur game 101

[gilded tinsel]

okay i see what people mean now the ancient gods 1 is just wow so two tyrants are spawned one which is possessed AND then you spawn a doom hunter on top of that?

[real holly]

that arena is crazy on the first run

and it still is to me, 435 hour all UN runs done player, finds it tricky if im not locked in

i like the possesed tyrant bc unlike the normal tyrants their a threat, but holy fucking bullet sponge

there's two approaches i take to that arena, first is killing the support tyrant first to make the spirit repossessing another tyrant is not a possibility, other is to fucking charge like a maniac and head for the possesed tyrant first, which doesn't go too badly bc the other tyrant is slow and the doom hunter is far away

[gilded tinsel]

they literally spawned the one demon that you can’t kill unless it’s shields are down when it does a heavy attack

on top of that aswell

I wasn’t expecting that at all 😭

[real holly]

oh right there's a surprise blood makyr

[gentle shale]

Lmao

[gilded tinsel]

it’s actually pretty simple

first deal with the support tyrant
once the doom hunter is spawned hit him with a bfg shot to instantly get rid of him
deal with the blood makyr immediately after that
then it’s just you and the possessed tyrant

I forgot i had a bfg shot 😭💔

[real holly]

I don't use bfg 👍

[storm eagle]

There's nothing wrong with using the bfg

Idk why not using weapons is a flex lately in the comnunity

[gilded tinsel]

honestly as i’ve been playing ancient gods part 2 the demon additions in it don’t really seem that good to me

stone imps just kinda feel like what’s the point of even adding that

i forgot the name of the one that you have to break it’s armor but that one isn’t that good to me either

but I feel like I could start to like it

also as a side question for the stone imps how can i switch between my weapon mods without having to open up the dossier

[austere bronze]

i agree, the best tag2 demons are just.. meh xd

[austere bronze]

press the mod swap bind, or open the weapon wheel, hover over the weapon and press the mod swap bind

the latter makes it so there's no animation for it

you can also switch it without an animation with tech

[valid rain]

Nah, armored barons suck straight ass, not even just a meh.

[austere bronze]

ye, i think the best tag2 demons are meh

like the riot soldier and the immoran soldiers

[valid rain]

Covid really screwed up their creative expression with those demons.

[gilded tinsel]

the demons i like so far from the dlc are the spirit and the blood maykr and that’s really it

the eye one i kinda already forgot abt

[austere bronze]

holy

we have the same exact opinion!

[gilded tinsel]

do they add any other demons in the dlc after this?

i’m only playing since i wanted to try out horde mode

[austere bronze]

where in tag2 are you?

[gilded tinsel]

just after the part where they introduce the stone imps

[valid rain]

You might enjoy screechers then.

[gilded tinsel]

NO

😭💔💔💔

i’m just thinking about how bad they are gonna be in future encounters

well actually

[valid rain]

You'll have to deal with a double marauder baron on the penultimate level of the dlc

[gilded tinsel]

they aren’t that bad but still i don’t like them that much

[valid rain]

Along with a bunch of screechers

[gilded tinsel]

💔

[wide comet]

Blood Swamps and UAC Atlantica are some of the best DOOM content across all games IMO

[gilded tinsel]

blood swamps were amazing

[austere bronze]

then there isn't anything left really

there is, but there isn't really

[gilded tinsel]

i’m guessing nothing major atleast

[valid rain]

schrodinger's existence

[quiet cloud]

"am rich but am broke " ahh

[gilded tinsel]

doom eternal is the first DOOM game i’ve ever played and it’s also one of the first story games ive ever been able to get through playing because of how fast paced it is

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[gilded tinsel]

i’m gonna be very sad after I complete it

I just started playing it cause someone gifted it to me for my birthday

[quiet cloud]

dw theres master levels

play them and u will have ur hands full are quite some time

[austere bronze]

there are master levels for it ;> and if you're on pc tons of mods (with a wide range of custom master levels and entirely custom made levels)

[quiet cloud]

also mods exist if u play on pc

[gilded tinsel]

I do and i’m gonna buy the game for my girlfriend too so she gets to experience it

[quiet cloud]

albeit the custom levels are generally a bit difficult

[valid rain]

New players in my 6-year-old game 🥲

[quiet cloud]

mf just wanted to flex on us single mfs

lmao

[gilded tinsel]

this is my first time with anything doom related lol

[austere bronze]

yeah most of the custom maps are designed for players who are already comfortable with the regular MLs

[somber frigate]

Anyone can help with battlemode achievements slayer

[austere bronze]

and most of the more recent levels are just not accessible at all

[gilded tinsel]

after i’m gone with the dlc i think ill go back and try and do 100% completion

[quiet cloud]

ye one of my frnds just beat tarus nabad ml on ultra v so i told him to try saleems blood spawn master level lmfaooo

poor guy actually lost his shit playing that

[valid rain]

Should've told him to play the extremely unbalanced Taras Nabad ML

[gilded tinsel]

I don’t think i could play this game if i was on console ngl

[quiet cloud]

gng am only gonna recemend what ive played

[gilded tinsel]

with a controller i just feel like you would turn too slow

[jovial coral]

ok what the point of saying that ??

[quiet cloud]

speak of the devil lmao

[valid rain]

Yeah u right I had no reason to mention that

[austere bronze]

you gotta max out the sensitivity xd

[jovial coral]

?

[gilded tinsel]

the only way i survive sometimes is by flicking a demon and getting a headshot

idk if i could do that on controller

[quiet cloud]

i just mentioned ur master level a few seconds back and u magically appeared

[gilded tinsel]

well you do have aim assist on that i think so maybe not that bad

[jovial coral]

Ohhh ok lol

[austere bronze]

played that once and am never touching it again

literally just tormented earth on steroids

[quiet cloud]

that level is actual cbt ngl

[austere bronze]

that level makes unreclaimed earth look like a normal level😭

[quiet cloud]

i was gonna play it then i saw the gameplay of it 😭

[valid rain]

Imagine if it had Kaiser Campaign demons too.

[jovial coral]

Too much CBT brainrot talk here 😒

[gilded tinsel]

I would be interested in doing mods for the game though that seems fun

[austere bronze]

gosh that one maykr enemy which takes multiple headshots

[quiet cloud]

do kaiser campaign trust its actually good

[austere bronze]

it's fun for a while... then it's just gets very samey imo😭

[quiet cloud]

its my fav eternal mod

[valid rain]

Arc complex on Kaiser is lowkey unbalanced though, the entire level was fodder, then the last 3 minutes is just buffed marauders

[quiet cloud]

here i struggle to get past the first room with the 3 zombies in it

other ppl here beat eternal blindfolded without limbs on ultra nm barebones

smh

[austere bronze]

slayer gate was very underwhelming too

[quiet cloud]

the mini marauders were pretty fun

[austere bronze]

the mini enemies were all pretty fun

[jovial coral]

CBT levels should be illegal 😎

[austere bronze]

but i would've liked if it was more than just that

[quiet cloud]

ofc u would have preferred if there were 32 ios and 86 possesed archivles

specter versions

[valid rain]

spectre possessed molten archivles, yes

[austere bronze]

they all just died so fast😭

[storm eagle]

Elitist type stuff

[austere bronze]

felt like i was fighting speedy zombies that wete cut in half the entire time

[simple holly]

WHAT levels?

[storm eagle]

The super difficult custom levels that people play in order to flex to others

[simple holly]

Ah

[quiet cloud]

oh ye btw did they patch the "buggy wall of terror " ???

[austere bronze]

i play them cause stuff like hell's abyss is fun🤷‍♂️

[quiet cloud]

holy peak

[austere bronze]

nope xdd

[quiet cloud]

best level oat

[storm eagle]

yeah we know

[quiet cloud]

hells abyss v2 is the only "difficult " level ive ultra nm ed

[lucid geyser]

Why is my infinite ammo mod only giving me slightly more extra ammo? I'm trying to beat a master level with cheats/mods enabled.

[austere bronze]

arguably so yeah

unholy urdak would've been my goat if there wasn't soo many gimmicks

[austere bronze]

sounds really odd, i don't even think it's supposed to give extra ammo since, well, it just gives infinite ammo

oh wait never mind, i don't think cheats work in master levels, only in mission select

[lucid geyser]

Well, that would explain it. Thanks, @austere bronze.

[austere bronze]

you can get infinite ammo with console commands though, but to unlock them you need to either be playing on the mod portal, or have run the mod injector once

command is: g_infiniteammo 1

to disable it just put a 0 at the end instead

[lucid geyser]

What does the "g_" mean? I know the 1 means turn the flag on.

[austere bronze]

not sure

[valid rain]

game

[austere bronze]

ahh

[lucid geyser]

Ty

[gilded tinsel]

just in here blessing everyone with amazing information 😭😭❤️‍🩹

I really hope after I play doom eternal that doom the dark ages gets me as addicted to it as i currently am to eternal

[valid rain]

Should we tell him?

[gilded tinsel]

Yeah i know it plays entirely different but i like to go into games with a open mind

playing doom eternal finally made me try out ultra kill for the first time and ultra kill was amazing I think doom eternal opened up my mind to a lot of games that i wouldn’t have tried / played otherwise

i’m gonna be playing a lot of the other games by bethesda

[austere bronze]

play other games by id! doom is made by id software, bethesda is just the publisher

[gilded tinsel]

ohhhh 😭😭 okay

[valid rain]

Yeah, Bethesda themselves do not have a good rapsheet.

[austere bronze]

tda is a good game, there's a good chance you'll enjoy it then :>

[gilded tinsel]

tda? what’s that

[austere bronze]

the dark ages

[valid rain]

T(The) D(dark) A(ages)

[gilded tinsel]

i’m slow

but okay

tda is on my list after this

what about wolfeinstein?

[quiet cloud]

its good

[quiet cloud]

if u wanna play a fast paced fps like eternal then play ultrakill

[gilded tinsel]

yeah i tried it and ultra kill is amazing aswell

my aim used to suck before playing doom eternal but the game kinda forces you to get good at aiming

which is the only reason i could play a game like ultra kill now

[storm eagle]

That's awesome dude, hope she loves it!

[wild rivet]

anyone on playstation willing to help out in battlemode? Grinding for the kills. need another person

[quiet cloud]

nice

[gilded tinsel]

the doom guy is just so fucking badass bro 😭💔

favorite game character of mine definitely even if i’m new

[gilded tinsel]

just finished my first escalation encounter and it’s funny cause both encounters just felt like the average tag1 encounter it didn’t even feel hard

[gilded tinsel]

lies i have to experience the horrible experience of having to deal with the demon that curses you

[cedar blade]

Yeah, tag2 is much easier than tag1.

If you want it to be harder, a good way to do so is to just not use the hammer (until the boss of tag 2).

[gilded tinsel]

I never use the hammer at all cause I literally forget it’s there half of the time

same thing for when i had the sword

i never really felt the need to use them unless i really had a certain enemy bugging me

[sweet ore]

Hi, just got on this server when I saw it on doom eternal, I’m currently fighting this one creature that khan makyr had created and they are really hard to beat, I’m doing what the tutorials say to do, like trying to destroy the sleds and using the plasma gun to destroy the shields but with the horde it’s hard to focus on that

[gilded tinsel]

the doom hunter?

i would recommend switching between using rockets and the ballista with the destroyer blade mod

later in the game you can deal with them quite quickly with a bfg shot

once its shields are down you could also get in close with the super shotgun

[cedar blade]

Ice bomb, then blood punch the sled. It deals massive damage. After it's off the sled, focus with lock on Burst with the rocket launcher.

Be careful with their mele attack though. It's very fast, and deals massive damage.

[low bronze]

ok so i've mastered the weapons. I have the challenges left for base game ultra violence

[storm eagle]

good work!

[low bronze]

Those mastery tokens are so helpful

i was hording them because i never figured out what they were for

[austere bronze]

oupps😭 forgot about thatt onee

[valid rain]

Quick question rq, why do you use arbalest on those cyber cacos?

Im pretty sure they're made to have a resistance to both rockets and ballista rounds

[tidal oar]

Cyber cacos?

[austere bronze]

i think kaiser campaign is the only mod where the resistance is super noticeable

normally they get staggered with 3 arbalests, but sometimes 2 even

depends on the mod

[tidal oar]

Oh pain elemental

[austere bronze]

a custom enemy created by the modding community

[valid rain]

Oh so custom stats for every mod gotchu

could've sworn pb punch swapping was just far faster

[austere bronze]

yeah mods often don't have the same stats for their custom ai😭

[gilded tinsel]

do the escalation encounters sometimes glitch out?

[austere bronze]

in what way?

[gilded tinsel]

I was trying to do one and it just destroyed the orb but the second stage didn’t start

i had to exit my game and go back into it

and then it worked

[austere bronze]

that sounds odd, can't say i've ever encountered that bug

[gilded tinsel]

it just happened to me on tag2

idk first time i ever encountered it either

[austere bronze]

or, i might have, but then it was in a mod

no wait, the thing you need to destroy just didn't spawn at all😭

[gilded tinsel]

oh LOL

it’s okay i’m only doing it cause I really like the skins that the encounters give you tbh

[forest night]

Guys

It turns out killing demons in doom eternal doesn't kill the sickness in your body

My rage is imminent but my health is poor

[low bronze]

so true

[forest night]

I wish there's a doom slayer in my immune system

[swift zinc]

Same chara same

[meager schooner]

The time I got covid it was so nothing I thought I just needed a drink of water, I might be hogging him

[low bronze]

bro, share. my coughing is getting HORRID

[meager schooner]

In january I did blow my nose so hard that it fucked up my ears so bad it's still like that so like he's not here ANYMORE

[low bronze]

Oh no, he's loose

[storm eagle]

#general

[low bronze]

Good LORD the mancubus has a LOT of skins

like 25! That i could count

[tidal oar]

Holy shit

The holt horde mode on nightmare is ridiculous

[sick wind]

Just finished all three campaigns on ultra nightmare. When do I get to escape the madness?

[valid rain]

Got a shift in an hour, but I gotta ask if anyone knows the name of a no recoil mod for this game? Or one to shift the position of the weapons, similar to the hands_fovscale command.

[austere bronze]

g_weaponkick 0
hands_offsetz (can replace z with x and y, and it works for positive and negative values)

[austere bronze]

(both are commands to enter into the console)

and ofc g_weaponkick 1 turns the recoil back on

[ivory leaf]

Hey guys. I wanna grind at Eternal next week. Should I go back to UN or do the Mars Core Master Level complete first?

[quiet cloud]

mars core ml

[autumn dew]

tag 1 and 2 UNM completed 😮‍💨 🫩

[austere bronze]

lesgo

[marsh thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-crucible-doom-slayer-crucible-gif-26209346

I raise my Crucible to you like a toast!

[autumn dew]

hell yeah

[quiet cloud]

Master level ultra nm awaits

[autumn dew]

🌚

[deep compass]

Is that an eradictator sword

[gilded tinsel]

how bad is tag1 on UNM?

I was gonna try after i’m done

with tag2 I just am taking my time cause I don’t want the game to be over yet

[marsh thunder]

Not by name, but by purpose!

[autumn dew]

to be fair, its wasnt that bad (for me atleast)

i do recommend going for master levels before jumping straight into UNM

they can give u a huge skill boost

that’s what i did

[gilded tinsel]

i’ve done the base campaign on UNM but idk how i’m gonna do on tag

[autumn dew]

or you could practice each level on a mirror run on nightmare

[autumn dew]

just play it safe and you’ll be alright

always use the ice bomb and flame belch to heal

[gilded tinsel]

until 99 tyrants get spawned on me

you know honestly no demon in the game is that bad

EXCEPT the priest one

that summons other demons

[autumn dew]

meathook + D blade and PB + SSG gets the job done for me

[autumn dew]

archvile?

[gilded tinsel]

yeah whatever his name is that one is always ruining my runs

[autumn dew]

ice bomb and 2 lock on bursts instantly kills it

the part that makes them really hard is finding them lol

they hide really well which is annoying

[gilded tinsel]

yeah that’s what kills me i know how to deal with him but sometimes he literally spawns in the most inconvenient place

and that’s how i die 99% of the time

[autumn dew]

i had more runs ruined by a dread knight and cacodemon

archviles never really ruined my runs

[gilded tinsel]

what’s the one that’s pink and you have to shoot its tail

[autumn dew]

yeah, use meathook at all times when trying to find him

you could also use some frags to falter nearby demons so you can maneuver more safely

[autumn dew]

pinky

[gilded tinsel]

oh that’s actually a very fitting name

[autumn dew]

very

[gilded tinsel]

but yeah sometimes i die because a invisible one is chasing me and i already used my ice bomb

[ivory leaf]

Today was my last exam this year. I now have all my time usually spent learning math n stuff all to Doom

[autumn dew]

i personally ram into them with the chaingun shield to falter then shoot their tail lol

[gilded tinsel]

in tag2 it’s much easier because of the hammer

[autumn dew]

mhm

honestly if u want to, you can do tag 2 unm before tag 1

[gilded tinsel]

the sword felt useless for me because I never got any time to use it except on the icon of sin boss fight

[autumn dew]

that’s what i did

[autumn dew]

yeah, crucible charges were kinda hard to come by

[gilded tinsel]

(because I would use it any chance i had cause i loved the animations)

[gilded tinsel]

they really should have made it work like how the hammer does tbh

[autumn dew]

fr, its pretty badass to use

i like the way it is honestly

it would be too op if u can use it all the time

[ivory leaf]

Once you know how many charges there are in the missions then you can use the Crucible pretty often enough

[autumn dew]

mostly just a delete button for annoying demons like the arch vile

[gilded tinsel]

yeah fair enough

[autumn dew]

sometimes when i do reruns on some levels, i tend to forget about the crucible

[gilded tinsel]

kinda like a trump card u save just like the BFG

[autumn dew]

ye

[ivory leaf]

Yeah probably because you got the skill to not rely on them too much

[ivory leaf]

Definitely

[autumn dew]

and cuz u cant use them all that much

but i like to use them on archviles

[gilded tinsel]

I beat the whole base campaign without knowing the weapon wheel was there so i used to have to move my finger all the way to switch to the BFG when I was about to die and that sucked

[ivory leaf]

I maximized its use during the SuperGoreNest Master Level. I ALWAYS saved one for that totem boosted Tyrant in the end

[autumn dew]

i never really used the weapon wheel tbh

i didnt really have to use it because of mouse side buttons

[gilded tinsel]

it’s amazing since it slows down time and you can also use it mid air to decide what you want to do

[gilded tinsel]

wait…. are you serious

[austere bronze]

the weapon wheel is nice, but it's not better than individual keybinds

[autumn dew]

yeah, and especially in taras nabad for that double archvile room which is really cramped up

[gilded tinsel]

i can do that

idk why i never thought about doing that

[autumn dew]

💀 bruh

[gilded tinsel]

that probably would’ve made my life a lot easier

[ivory leaf]

You guys on pc are lucky with those keybinds.

I always have to use weapon wheel on my xbox

[autumn dew]

pretty impressive that u beat the base campaign on UNM with default key binds

[autumn dew]

lol yeah i feel you

[ivory leaf]

But I learned to be quick with the wheel

[autumn dew]

how hard is quick swapping there?

i heard it was pretty difficult

[ivory leaf]

I raised the time for the wheel to be triggered to 200 miliseconds. That way I can quick swap much better

[gilded tinsel]

the default binds are amazing imo the only one that kinda sucks is the dossier bind for me since it glitches out but i changed that to the home key

[ivory leaf]

Those PB Ballista combos are pretty quick that way

[autumn dew]

oh yeah just press alt for that

doom eternal is wack with alt + tab

[gilded tinsel]

yeah i know it’s alt but it glitches out based on if you’re in fullscreen / windowed mode and you can fix it sometimes by pressing alt+enter

but just really annoying imo so i just changed it to home

[autumn dew]

i see

[ivory leaf]

My favorite weapon combo has to be the SSG Ballista quick swap

[autumn dew]

highest dps

but it drains ammo pretty fast

[ivory leaf]

The fastest one is probably PB Ballista since they are like Sniper Shots

[gilded tinsel]

gets rid of demons so quickly

it’s amazing

[autumn dew]

so i mostly stick with either SSG + PB or PB + Ballista

[ivory leaf]

Sadly. But thats the point in Eternal

[gilded tinsel]

chainsaw time 😭😭

[autumn dew]

fr

[ivory leaf]

A combo I love against Mancubi is PB Rocket

[austere bronze]

funnily enough, pb+ssg is higher dps just due to the heavy cannon swapping quicker than the ballista

[ivory leaf]

Gonna make some demon goulash

[autumn dew]

pb ballista for me cuz i can take out both arms in less than a second

[ivory leaf]

Yeah

[autumn dew]

oh fr? never knew that actually

[ivory leaf]

A weapon I rarely use now is the plasma rifle. I mostly use it now against spirits and possessed demons for a quick stagger

[austere bronze]

that's pretty fair

[autumn dew]

i like to use it to stun possessed demons

mw beam then whatever combo u like

[ivory leaf]

Ever since I gave myself the goal to complete to finish UN my entire playstyle changed

[autumn dew]

rinse and repeat

[austere bronze]

in what way?

like you got a more safe approach to arenas?

[gilded tinsel]

the demon i forgot about so quickly was the turret

[gilded tinsel]

yeah same

[autumn dew]

theyre kinda annoying

[ivory leaf]

I stopped playing normal and easy mode, I learned quick swapping, what mods are "better", how to use all weapons and much more

[autumn dew]

but stone imps were the most annoying ngl

[austere bronze]

screechers and cursed prowlers are much more annoying imo

[autumn dew]

its hard to go back to easier difficulties

[austere bronze]

stone imps can often just kinda be ignored

[autumn dew]

oh yeah forgot about screechers

[gilded tinsel]

wait that actually gives me a question for them how do i swap between my weapon mods without opening the dossier i tried X but it didn’t work

[gilded tinsel]

both are the bane of my existence

[autumn dew]

hated them so much for that double marauder arena in immora

[ivory leaf]

When I killed them with the auto shotgun for the first time and saw that I got some ammo back after killing them I thought "Oh they give you some ammo back?" Not realizing that this happens after completing the mod mastery

[austere bronze]

just check your bind for mod swapping in settings

[gilded tinsel]

don’t remind me 😔

[autumn dew]

press F

[austere bronze]

by default it's F i think

[ivory leaf]

I HATE the screechers. Especially in TAG 2 with them two Marauders. If it was without them screechers that would be perfectly fine for me. BUT NO! IT HAS TO BE TWO MARAUDERS AND ONCE YOU HIT ONE OF THOSE SCREECHERS YOURE COOKED

[autumn dew]

and that one purple sludge area in the world spear

[gilded tinsel]

well after I beat tag2 i think it’s time to play the entire game again as hatsune miku

[autumn dew]

i still struggle with this area lmao

[ivory leaf]

Absolute cancer

I just fire a bfg in the air to get eid of em

[gilded tinsel]

horrible

[ivory leaf]

Once the Mancubi shows up obviously

[austere bronze]

don't you love your weapon choices being restricted

[autumn dew]

screechers are unironically worse than any super heavies

they ruin the flow of the game imo

[austere bronze]

yeah

[ivory leaf]

Yeah but whenever I try to stagger that empowered Marauder nothing happens except him summoning a wolf

[autumn dew]

yeah theyre like spirits

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

[ivory leaf]

And you cant really do anything to slow those empowered demons down so you can lower their hp

[ivory leaf]

I see green flash, I shoot, shield active

[autumn dew]

i definitely didnt lose some UNM runs to that area in immora

[ivory leaf]

But MUCH worse

[autumn dew]

i mean they dont have double health so i digress

[austere bronze]

ohh, yeah if you get unlucky that can happen
otherwise it's probably from you hitting too late

[gilded tinsel]

i rarely remember area names in eternal but immora scarred me 😔

[austere bronze]

the green eye flash doesn't necessarily perfectly match the duration of the marauder's attack

[ivory leaf]

And I have gotten much better at dealing a marauder (even two at once) on nightmare

[autumn dew]

lol, atleast after that its a breeze

[autumn dew]

davoth made me feel like i was playing on hurt me plenty

[autumn dew]

this reminds me of armored barons

like there’s a chance that their armor wont break at all, really annoying honestly

[austere bronze]

oh yeah😭

[autumn dew]

i actually lost an UNM run because of that

unfortunate times

[ivory leaf]

A tip I discovered a week or so ago: Immora those two Marauders and the screechers. If you activate the screecher just keep swinging on that pole there until the effect is over

Or if you guys already know that idk

[autumn dew]

idk i just pop chaingun shield while running

[ivory leaf]

Idk about you guys but I prefer the classic weapon stance and this moving of the weapon whilst walking turned off

And my crosshair as dot

Helps me quite a bit

[austere bronze]

i used to play with centered weapons like over a year ago

i also used the dot crosshair until basically a couple of weeks ago

weapon bob i don't really have an opinion on though

[autumn dew]

never tried centered weapons

[ivory leaf]

I also wanna learn how to play without the HUD. I have my usual HUD size on small

[autumn dew]

might try it tomorrow

[austere bronze]

i think if anything it'd affect your normal gameplay in a bad way

[ivory leaf]

Its not really a gamechanger but more personal preference

[austere bronze]

though if you just wanna learn to play without hud just to play without the hud, go for it

[autumn dew]

doesnt sound like a good idea imo

could be a good challenge

for the masochists

[ivory leaf]

Yeah. I would think I have no ammo then chainsaw a demon even though I still had half my ammo on everything

[autumn dew]

yeah, thought it would be fun to try

[gilded tinsel]

no HUD every demon empowered UNM mode and reading the bible

[austere bronze]

since checking health (other stuff too, but mostly health/armor) is something almost everyone could do more of, and playing without hud would get you used to not doing that

[ivory leaf]

Nice throwback to the classic games

[austere bronze]

that's the best time to chainsaw though!

[autumn dew]

realest

[austere bronze]

you don't want to wait until you're out of ammo

[autumn dew]

i just chainsaw whenever i have the chance lol

[austere bronze]

when you get to about half ammo, you can start thinkinh about chainsawing

[ivory leaf]

Actually yeah. Then you would have full ammo on everything again since one chainsaw gives half ammo on everything

[austere bronze]

yess

[deep compass]

Lol

[gilded tinsel]

i’m about to fight the dark lord for the first time

i’m kinda sad since the game will be over after this but i still have the master levels

[ivory leaf]

I'll just start now with the Mars Core ML

[gilded tinsel]

ngl the dark lord fight is so wonky 😭😭

but it’s okay

[opal dew]

I haven't played The Ancient Gods part 1 and 2, but I heard part 1 is the hardest game.

[gilded tinsel]

it is

well i just beat the entire game

very fun experience

[pearl pollen]

it is

[ivory leaf]

Definitely. The Samur Maykr Boss Fight is pure cancer on higher difficulties. First time playing the Boss Fight I died like ten trillion times

On Marscore ML I completed regular Nightmare and classic mode so far. Now just extra life and UN

[wise reef]

just beat my first slayer gate on uv, holy shit that was hard.

[real holly]

anyone here know damage values, how many shots would it take to kill an archville with pb+ballista combo?

for sgn master level since that's one open last arena

[austere bronze]

5 cycles of pb+ballista

and it'll just insta-kill going past gk state

unless you get some headshots

[opal dew]

Probably the best idea for me is to play it on easy mode, since I had troubles even with the base game, I died a lot at the last 2 chapters

[restive crest]

What’s the best build for UN?

[valid rain]

Back, and thanks a lot.

[valid rain]

Archviles have 5980 Health

[valid rain]

PB does 400, and the ballista does 860 to ground enemies, so about 5 cycles.

[low bronze]

ok NOW i've mastered all weapons

Im blind af

[covert plinth]

If the game crashes does my ultra nightmare run get deleted?

[valid rain]

No it only sends you back to your last checkpoint

If you die and Alt-F4, however, you'll spawn at the nearest checkpoint as well, but you'll be unable to shoot anything.

[cunning wing]

I just bought DOOM Eternal on the ps4 and it is saying the content is pending and it been running an hour and it’s not fining me the rest of the campaign what do I do?

[low bronze]

did the game fully download

[cunning wing]

How do I check?

[low bronze]

downloads. see if theres still bar left

[cunning wing]

I don’t see Downloads am not familiar with ps consoles

[low bronze]

find notifications

[cunning wing]

Oh

Thank you so much

God damn!!!

One hour!

[low bronze]

yeah

[cunning wing]

[low ingot]

If you are looking for doom eternal tips for Ultra Nightmare

I have some you may want to utilise and know

With most bosses and enemies in ultra nightmare some may seem menacing at the start but when you truly start to fight them you realise how easy they really are.

Enemies that are easy in UN:

Khan Maykr
Spectre
Revenant
Dreadknight

Enemies that are sometimes hard in UN:

Cacodemon
Pain elemental
Mancubus/Cyber Mancubus
Whiplash
Gladiator

Lock on is a must have for UN and same with the Energy Shield modification for the Gatling gun which both are game changers for people trying to get past

[cedar blade]

There is no "must-haves" in Doom Eternal, everyone can play it at their own pace and speed.

[meager schooner]

The closest thing to a must have is the heat blast, not becaus the heat blast is op, but because the microwave beam is so bad

It's a "you have to not have the alternative option"

Having something to destroy weak points is def required by a certain point, but I'd say that point is the mancubus, and you can pick between the precision bolt or the sticky bombs to do so (and you should have enough time to pick up one by the time you fight one the first time, if you grabbed all the mod drone caches)

How you do it though is up to you, the precision bolt and the sticky bombs are both amazing, as are the micro missiles and the full auto (at least now once the full auto has been buffed)

[cedar blade]

I don't beleive there is even a "close thing" to a "must have." Unless you're speedrunning. But even then, in niche cases, it is still useful.

[cedar blade]

Doom Eternal is far more complicated than "Must-haves" black and whites. Even remote detonation or the mobile turret, two weapon mods that can very easily be seen as "worse" or "inadequate", especially in comparison to their alternatives, can still be useful.

[austere bronze]

truth

if a must have is a weapon mod you should always have equipped, i don't think they necessarily exist

though there are parts of the arsenal that if you never use, you'll be worse off

[valid rain]

Could sticky bombs be considered a must have then?

[cedar blade]

No.

But chances are, you will have both sticky bombs, and full auto when you actually need it.

In other words, when you fight the first arachnotron.

[valid rain]

In the context of any sort of playstyle, too, I suppose, or is it unique to speedrunning?

[cedar blade]

Well speedrunning is much more driven by a set meta, where the "must-haves" are already set out, and usually if you don't use those "must-haves," your run will be slower.

In speedrunning, when you see the first arachnotron, you completely ignore it and actually just skip the whole arena.

For casual play, one of the best ways to kill that first arachnotron, is to stun it by shooting its cannon off with a sticky bomb, then spam full auto at close range.

[valid rain]

Yeah that makes

Also, that skip is with that punch boost tech too right, or whatever its called?

[cedar blade]

Yes and yes.

However, there is still a way to complete that arena quickly, without a punch boost.

[austere bronze]

you'll be worse off if you don't use it at all

[ivory leaf]

Sticky Bombs are goated

[cedar blade]

Yeah, very much so.

Both people.

[high valley]

Is anyone up that could help me with 1 trophy?

[real holly]

microwave beam is useful in dlc beyond just killing spirits since its the only thing that can stun possessed demons

[pastel lagoon]

just beat doom eternal on nightmare mode! im aiming for extra lives then ultra nightmare now

[hushed solstice]

any of you got some tips to beat doom eternal the ancient gods 2

i rlly need some

[gilded tinsel]

what part are you stuck on

[hushed solstice]

puzzle with some train outside

idk what to do

[gilded tinsel]

uhhhh

can u explain a bit more what u need help with

sorry i don’t exactly remember what part that is

[hushed solstice]

wait

lemme get in game to see

is that alr

[gilded tinsel]

yeah idm

[hushed solstice]

brb

[dark crypt]

I just started doom eternal 2 hours ago

[gilded tinsel]

I just beat it 😔

you’ll love it so much

[dark crypt]

Dang

[gilded tinsel]

enjoy it while you can

[dark crypt]

Already am

[hushed solstice]

i beat it like 2 months ago

the normal one tho

not ancient gods

im at reclaimed earth

[dark crypt]

I think I got all the dlc's

[gilded tinsel]

i’m suprised though because if you beat tag1 tag2 should be a lot easier of a experience for you

[hushed solstice]

i needa reach the gates of divum

thats all i can really get of info from where im stuck

[gilded tinsel]

can i add u

[hushed solstice]

yea

[gilded tinsel]

so u can show me

[hushed solstice]

yep

[smoky cedar]

@austere bronze I’ll respond to your reply later. Busy atm. Keep one eye open

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388567765475922053/1509887904829276230/Doom_Eternal_level_Tierlist.png?ex=6a1ad030&is=6a197eb0&hm=f370eb0831068b605300be274fd3074a37ac6ca4d363f5d3f36657b840b2307b&

i would have ranked the holt over blood swamps if the Samur was a little more fun

[fresh yew]

Anyone here on Steam who can help me with the Battlemode Trophies? Need Most of them done and I suck lol.

[quiet cloud]

i agree with u on everything on this list except blood swamps

only 2 encounters are good in that whole level

[real holly]

damn hard disagree there

[quiet cloud]

regardless

[real holly]

I'll say the path with the buffed totem marauder and possesed baron is way more fun than the other one with the green dog

[quiet cloud]

tarus nabad master level the best level for base game

[real holly]

I'd have to go with super gore nest master level

[quiet cloud]

or myb mars core

[quiet cloud]

thats good too

[real holly]

mars core is SO close to being my favorite but the problem i have with it is the fact it literally only has one marauder arena

double marauder one, i like it but i wish there were more

speaking of base game, i love how taras nabad is the first level that stops pulling it's punches in most regards, like marauders

[graceful current]

i wish they fixed mars core's music

[signal dune]

What’s wrong with the music?

[graceful current]

randomly playing SGN at the end instead of mars core ;p

[smoky cedar]

“Without the hammer” 😂 without lock on rockets or bfg ahh

[signal dune]

Never knew that

My fav level is def nekravol part one

[smoky cedar]

My top 5 is like Mars Core, Urdak, Holt, Taras Nabad and Blood Swamps

[graceful current]

mine is either blood swamps or mars core master level i think

[real holly]

this i agree with

i like the theme but why

[signal dune]

Should I buy dlc

[graceful current]

eternal has all sorts of weird music quirks like that which make me go :/

[real holly]

mars core ml if it just had two more Marauder encounters

[graceful current]

yeah i mean TAG 1 is probably the best 3 level run in the game (gameplay wise not story wise)

[real holly]

agreed

[signal dune]

I see

[graceful current]

TAG 2 is kinda mid but still like yk fun to go through

[real holly]

this single factoid makes me consider sgn ml above mc ml

[graceful current]

like it's mid for doom but you'll still enjoy it + horde mode is banging

[smoky cedar]

I recommend it. It’s easier that the rest but you got the master level

[signal dune]

Im saving my money for doom the dark ages rn

[real holly]

tag 2 can be entertaining without the hammer for me at least, except for that stupid final boss

[smoky cedar]

It’s discounted rn

On steam

[signal dune]

Wait for real?

[smoky cedar]

Unless it expired

Yeah I got it for like 30 bucks and beat it today on nightmare

[signal dune]

Lemme check

[smoky cedar]

Very peak. The mech sections are mid but I fuck with the dragon for navigation

If they made like a huge non linear open level where u can freely fly with the dragon, it would’ve been received better methinks

[real holly]

tda is fun

[smoky cedar]

The bosses are solid too. Azrak was very enjoyable

[signal dune]

Eh it’s not on discount rn

[smoky cedar]

Oh too late ig

[signal dune]

😔

[smoky cedar]

100 USD is fucked lol

No game is worth allat

[smoky cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doom-eternal-the-ancient-gods-the-ancient-gods-sword-gif-14501907736878168538

What a beast. Just a big mean marauder

[graceful current]

its the summer sale soon for steam

it probably wont be 66% off again but itll probably be a lot off

[smoky cedar]

Doom powerscaling is off the rails now

[gusty ocean]

Its 70 brochacho

[smoky cedar]

High Outerversal

[signal dune]

Yay

[smoky cedar]

Oh yeah I got confused. For me it’s AUSD

[graceful current]

115 NZD </3

[smoky cedar]

forgot to convert

[gusty ocean]

Not even mean bro he takes ages to flash green

[real holly]

also true

[smoky cedar]

66% off what unprecedented

What was even the occasion

[gusty ocean]

Oh well

[signal dune]

What should I buy next after I bought dark ages? Doom 2016 or eternal dlcs

[smoky cedar]

Yeah normally 100 AUSD. It was 30 when I bought it

[gusty ocean]

Time to flex that due to my country's economy its 50 usd where i live

[smoky cedar]

Eternal DLCs then 2016

Ideally u should’ve played 2016 first

[gusty ocean]

Dude how have you not played 2016 yet

Whenever 2016 is on sale its like 4 bucks so honestly you could buy both at the same time

[signal dune]

I saw people saying that eternal is better than 2016 so I bought eternal first 😂

[smoky cedar]

That’s why he’s mean. Not very lean. But mean and green

[smoky cedar]

I mean valid

2016 is the larper’s favourite doom

[gusty ocean]

Nah thats eternal

[smoky cedar]

Def not

[signal dune]

🧐

[gusty ocean]

Eternal is the most popular doom

So larpers will get attracted to it more

[smoky cedar]

Especially when u factor in the reasoning behind why 2016 is liked “oh I prefer the visuals, so gritty, and the story”

[gusty ocean]

That aint larping thats just valid

[smoky cedar]

I mean if we presuppose popularity attracts larpers, then yes

[smoky cedar]

Nah.

[gusty ocean]

I like that demons feel bigger in 2016

[smoky cedar]

2016’s visually boring to me

[gusty ocean]

And also i do feel they handled the story better than in eternal

So i see the appeal

[graceful current]

for a moment i read that as "handled the story better in eternal" was gonna start swinging

[smoky cedar]

I can see why but I also just prefer the whole scale of Eternal’s plot

[graceful current]

thats 100% eternal dude

the only thing they fear is you has been in 100x more larp posts than bfg division

[smoky cedar]

Hard disagree but go off

[smoky cedar]

I’m talking abt the reasons why one is lauded over the other. Just larp.

[graceful current]

i think you just dislike that people prefer 2016 ngl

i dont see how visuals and narrative are invalid reasons

[gusty ocean]

Eternal had a good story but the tone was off

[smoky cedar]

Mechanically 2016 is a very flanderised idea of doom. Plays more like quake but

[graceful current]

im sorry did you just say 2016 plays more like quake than eternal

[smoky cedar]

Idrc what people like or dislike. I am looking at the reasons. When you call someone a larper you put yourself in a position where ur scrutinising others lol

[real holly]

tbf its such a good game it turns larpers to slayers somehow

[signal dune]

Wait how many levels are in eternal dlcs

[smoky cedar]

Yeah it’s a very flanderised idea of doom lol

[real holly]

this is true, calling others larpers unironically is superiority complex founded on nothing

[graceful current]

tell me how 2016 is more flanderised than eternal

[smoky cedar]

Classic doom has more in common with Eternal’s combat philosophy than 2016

[graceful current]

7 levels

[graceful current]

YOU ARE INSANE DUDE YOU ARE ACTUALLY INSANE 😭

[real holly]

madness?

[signal dune]

Ok thx

[gusty ocean]

3 in each one, 6 in total. The first two of each dlc feel fairly long so i'd say they feel more like 8 levels total

[smoky cedar]

How? You can literally run around with one weapon in 2016

[graceful current]

you can literally run around with one weapon in 2 and 64 and 3 lol

[gusty ocean]

Classic doom is a cover shooter

[smoky cedar]

Have you played classic doom at all? It’s about weapon selection, enemy priority, ammo conservation. In fighting is a major factor too

[gusty ocean]

If anything it plats the most like tda

[graceful current]

saying 2016 is more like quake than eternal is just legitimately an insane opinion im sorry. eternal is literally an arena shooter like the later quakes. eternal has a level hub like quake. everything about eternal is like quake

[smoky cedar]

Yeah no lol. In a wide field sure

[graceful current]

dude literally 99% of doom ii can be handled with the super shotty

[smoky cedar]

Fallen for the psyop award

[graceful current]

i have played every doom game and quake game i think i know what i'm talking about lol

[gusty ocean]

Big gun go bang and kill

[smoky cedar]

But it doesn’t give you the privilege because u have far less ammo. This is my point. You have to manage your ammo in classic doom better than 2016

You have to pick your fights, use monster infighting

[graceful current]

yeah and classic doom ammo isn't infinitely replenishable via chainsaw lol

[graceful current]

2016 has monster infighting and eternal doesnt

eternal is entirely linear and you cant pick fights

[gusty ocean]

Alright 1993 does feel like you need to manage your resources more than the other ones

[smoky cedar]

That’s only a factor in a macro scale. In a micro scale, Eternal’s limited ammo factors into your decision making

[gusty ocean]

But big gun go boom

In 2 onward

[graceful current]

not really you can do pretty much all of eternal with the super shotty too

[i have beaten UN on eternal]

[smoky cedar]

Monster in fighting isn’t actually practical in 2016. My point is that classic doom forces you to approach fights carefully and conserve your ammo, priorities certain foes, etc. it’s much more cerebral than 2016. That’s what it has in common with eternal. I’m not saying they’re 1 to 1

[smoky cedar]

You can beat any modern doom game with a single weapon if you’re good enough. You can’t do that in classic doom tho. Classic doom is even stricter than eternal in that aspect

[smoky cedar]

Good for you.

[graceful current]

you have to conserve ammo in quake as well so not sure what part about this adds to your argument

[smoky cedar]

Picking fights as in, choosing to kill a certain enemy or not. This is something eternal does have. Keeping certain enemies alive to prevent waves, or using for ammo, etc. screechers are hard example of this philosophy taken to the extreme

[graceful current]

screechers r pretty much the only example i can think of

[smoky cedar]

Yeah sure. I’m saying quake is more in common with 2016 due to the mobility. Like I’m not denying quake is in eternal either. It’s just it’s more palpable with 2016 due to how little it shares with classic doom, compared to eternal even

[graceful current]

eternal has way more mobility to 2016

and has several other quake-isms like a level hub

[smoky cedar]

Read the rest of my comment please

It’s more obvious with 2016 cause it doesn’t occupy that space with classic doom design compared to eternal.

[graceful current]

eternal also has more of a focus on platforming, quick switching and vertical level design

[smoky cedar]

This is mostly just due to the ammo reserves and monster designs

Eternal having monsters with weak points and weaknesses is very similar to that sort of gameplay approach in classic doom. Use chain gun to stun lock caco due to high pain chance, swap to fist to conserve ammo and trigger in fighting, conserve plasma etc

[real holly]

people really underestimate how relevant the vertical level design is

[smoky cedar]

Eternal is not built around quick switching per se

[real holly]

and the fact the Slayer can become airborne so easily

[graceful current]

quick switching is encouraged

[smoky cedar]

But yes both 2016 and eternal share verticality.

[real holly]

no other doom game has this level of verticality

[smoky cedar]

General weapon switching is

[real holly]

2016 has some but nowhere near as much as eternal

[smoky cedar]

Not quick switching combos necessarily. They added that tutorial after Taras Nabad master level

The devs just leaned into it

[smoky cedar]

Yeah but those are optics. Verticality is just another form of spatial reasoning. Naturally a 3d game will incorporate that. I’m talking abt the blood and bones philosophies underpinning these games

Classic doom is very strict with ammo management. And this is immediately obvious if you play episode 4 or final doom

Sigil, or any difficult WAD.

This level of resource management isn’t seen until Eternal

[real holly]

ima be 100, resource "management" in eternal boils down to "find fodder and chainsaw"

the reason so many people find it so wack especially new players is bc they don't understand how easy it is to find fodder to chainsaw

[smoky cedar]

And I think the idea of classic doom being just this mindless run and gun thing, that 2016 sorta popularised, is wrong. So many classic doom levels contain cover and shit

The main give away that it’s not a hyper aggressive run and gun game is the existence of hit scan enemies

[graceful current]

2016 requires a lot more cover than eternal

[real holly]

true

[smoky cedar]

Chain gunners will eliminate any notion of “I can run around and shoot anything”. You certainly run around but not mindlessly

[smoky cedar]

I don’t think there’s any pressure in 2016 to warrant this

[real holly]

Doom 2016 is almost a tactical shooter at times with the amount of cover you take

at least on nightmare

[smoky cedar]

The enemies are designed to miss when u run around

[real holly]

but nobody in their right mind enjoys nightmare on 2016

ultra violence is where its at

[smoky cedar]

Not even dissing 2016 here. I think this is better than classic doom as an idea. Moving around should be encouraged

It’s the presence of hitscan that forces cover in classic doom

[real holly]

doom combat before eternal REALLY boiled down to "shoot while running back"

[real holly]

true

[smoky cedar]

So 2016 sorta flanderised this, although for the better

[real holly]

and now with Eternal on heavy bigass arenas it changed to "evade with style and speed while shooting"

[smoky cedar]

I much prefer the mobility focus in modern doom

But I lament the lack of resource pressure in 2016. Which is why I’m glad Eternal exists

[real holly]

TDA is the first one to actually go "CHARGEEEE AT THEM AAA PARRY THEIR ATTACKS"

[smoky cedar]

Dark ages is a fun new direction in its own right. It’s got the bullet hell aspect

But definitely not traditional

[real holly]

Eternal fundamentally encourages push forward combat too, but with the required intelligence to dodge and be spatially aware to not get hit too much while doing so and knowing how to restack

[graceful current]

TDA is the closest to classic doom i feel, even with the added mechanic of parrying

it requires a lot more cover and ducking and weaving

[smoky cedar]

Definitely not

[graceful current]

and probably has the most target prioritisation out of the 3

as well as less of a focus on verticality

this is obviously putting mech/dragon levels aside and focusing on slayer gameplay

[smoky cedar]

Resource pressure isn’t there (but u can adjust settings), but the shield just kinda changes too many things. Not to mention you can kinda stick to a build

Classic doom will force u to use other weapons

[real holly]

classic doom: Survival horror
2016: Shoot while running back and/or push forward to shoot then go back
Eternal: WHERE DID THE SLAYER GO HE WAS RIGHT THERE - Said the terrified tyrant.
TDA: Oh, he's coming straight for me ok-DID HE JUST PARRY MY ATTACK

[graceful current]

TDA will make you switch as much as classic i think

neither of them have much pressure unless you overuse one weapon

[smoky cedar]

Classic doom is very horror core

Maybe doom 3 is the most accurate

https://tenor.com/view/the-deep-deep-thoughts-deep-thoughts-with-the-deep-the-boys-gif-26372785

[graceful current]

it's a pretty common critique of doom 2 that it just lets you SSG 90% of the time and a reason why people praise 64's enemy changes

[smoky cedar]

That’s definitely wrong then

[real holly]

Classic doom gameplay wise is close to survival horror but there's no way it matches 3 right?

[smoky cedar]

Doom 2 is pretty easy compared to episode 4 but even it has strong resource pressure. The SSG is just a solid DPS option but you run out of it fast.

[real holly]

besides while people play classic doom they say "woah that enemy scared me" while also saying "lmfao shotgun and gibs"

[smoky cedar]

Like using standard shotgun is encouraged a lot

City levels for instance tend to be stingy with the ammo iirc

[graceful current]

i think level 09 is the only doom 2 level where one can struggle with ammo and thats usually if youre not going continuous

[smoky cedar]

Classic doom is scary. You’ll be in the dark and then a monster closet opens

Suddenly ur dying

[tame topaz]

Honestly 64 is a great game but.

WAY too many hell levels for how little enemy variety there is.

[graceful current]

That’s true that’s true

Makes me annoyed the Lost Levels from the remaster didn’t throw in some new ones and take advantage of it being on PC now

[tame topaz]

If they had cut down on some of them enough to add at least the Revenant and Chaingunner, and maybe restore the shotgun reload animations while they were at it, it would've been so mint.

[graceful current]

They had like bootleg Revenant block

[tame topaz]

The remaster was being supervised by ID so they probably didn't wanna stray too far from vanilla.

[graceful current]

They literally should’ve just put the Marine NPC in a regular level

Since they’re hostile and fire quicker than the other 2 humans

[graceful current]

Idk, Nightdive got to do Legacy of Rust for D+D2 so I reckon it was more like they didn’t have time since it had to be out alongside Eternal for promo purposes

If it had no set deadline I reckon they’d have tried

[gilded tinsel]

worst demon combo in doom eternal is lowk a possesed pinky + multiple cacodemons + archville

the possessed pinky runs like 30x faster i swear 😭

[storm eagle]

talk about Legacy of Rust and classic Doom in #general or #classic-doom please

[vale bear]

I've noticed that playing the ancient gods on nightmare for such a long time makes the base campaign seem much easier, has anyone else noticed that?

[storm eagle]

Yes because it is harder.

[vale bear]

I am going to try ultra-nightmare now, probably going to have another practice save though, gonna make sure I can beat every level five times in a row before doing said level on UN

[hoary axle]

I agree: demons telegraph attacks more imo. Especially when compared to the other games

[harsh totem]

How do you think the Blood Punch works lore-wise?

[small helm]

been playing around with rendering modes and gritty one actually makes seeing stuff in the distance easier

[small helm]

I'm gonna call it doom 4 filter because of how it changes the feel of visuals

[meager schooner]

Yeah that's you improving

[safe iris]

h

[cosmic palm]

i

[honest kernel]

Im trying to beat tag1 on un but keep dying consistently to the spirit tyrant room in the holt. Any tips to deal with that?

[high valley]

Anyone on that could help out today?

In battle mode 2.0?

[sick wind]

I like to burst down the regular tyrant on the right, take out doom hunter, blood makyrs, then you can just have a 1 on 1 with the possessed tyrant and use the pillars as cover

[real holly]

if you feel overwhelmed by the spirit titan, you can use the microwave beam to stun him and also take his health down, it's a good way to give you a breather in a 1v1

[honest kernel]

is it worth using two bfg rounds to end the fight faster

i dont need them for samur right

[austere bronze]

if you don't need them at any later point, and you have both without having to cut down on BFG usage, then absolutely

[valid rain]

Chats dead asl so I'ma pose a question. Between CBT atlantica and unreclaimed earth, which is more difficult to UN. Depending on which one is ranked higher, will being able to UN that level put me on a level capable of beating levels like Cultist stronghold and or Taras Nabad extremely unbalanced? Maybe even that one doom hunter base Unbalanced ML as well?

[austere bronze]

cbt atlantica is both harder overall, and especially harder to UN (longer level, and probably the hardest encounter is towards the end)

if you can UN it, you can definitely beat cultist stronghold and the extremely unbalanced taras nabad

if you can UN cbt atlantica without much trouble, the doom hunter base level might be beatable in less than like 20 hours

[austere bronze]

cultist stronghold isn't super bad overall, and the hardest encounters are at the end (looking at you slayer gate...), so you don't need to be able to un cbt atlantica to play it, just as long as cbt atlantica feels pretty reasonable you should be fine

[valid rain]

20 hours on a single level is ball tickling

[austere bronze]

just beating the level at all is harder than a UN run of almost any other CBT map

[valid rain]

Shit, even a potential Campaign of all the CBT levels or am I over reaching?

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

[valid rain]

Like putting a bunch of cbt levels in one big campaign

that kind of difficulty

[austere bronze]

that's 2 very different kinds of difficulty

the doom hunter level is "only" about 2,5 hours to do deathless, but it's way harder than anything else ever created

meanwhile all the cbt levels in one campaign is never close to being as hard, but it takes a very long time to do even deathless

[valid rain]

Even with it being different difficulties, hearing that this doom hunter base level has that much difficulty condensed in "2 in a half hours" is sickening

[worldly quiver]

Anyone that can help me with 100% doom eternal with the battlemode achievements? >.<
Game is kinda dead and so can't find any lobbies 😆

[outer pelican]

how to put a blood maykr into glory kill consistently?
like sometimes i think that i headshot it with pb, instead it goes into glory kill

they have such good animations, i always like seeing them

[quiet cloud]

i may be wrong but i remember that in rev 2.2 u could shoot ssg at the blood maykr immediately after they spawned in just before they started moving towards their side and that would send them into a glory kill state

[outer pelican]

thx

[austere bronze]

oh i had no idea actually

[quiet cloud]

well i do have like 4k hours in the game

sooooo

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

[real holly]

the weird but very useful blood makyr knowledge is that baiting them for a melee attack (risky bc much like mancubus ground slam its fast) increases the chances of them exposing themselves for a heavy attack more

[austere bronze]

think it makes them always perform a heavy attack after max one normal attck

[real holly]

yeye

[opal dew]

That makes you a Doom God, like Zero Master

[zealous path]

Zero Master and Decino. The CHADS of DOOM

[quiet cloud]

nah gng am ass at the game

still stuck in the first encounter in hell on earth with the 3 zombies frfr trust

[austere bronze]

if you're ass what is zero master

[opal dew]

Zero Master is a beginner. :D

[quiet cloud]

imma be real i dont even know who zero master is

[austere bronze]

that's crazy

[opal dew]

He has like all the world records for classic Doom

[quiet cloud]

i got a hazy memory

[austere bronze]

he's a really good classic doom player, one of the best (not sure if he's the best even?), and often cited as the best eternal player too

[quiet cloud]

oh that guy

yeye ik him

[austere bronze]

but he's definitely not the latter

[quiet cloud]

the guy with the blue pfp and shit

[opal dew]

He also beat DOOM 2016 literally on the day the game released on Ultra Nightmare. Absolutely insane!

[quiet cloud]

true

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[quiet cloud]

ye well thats cause ur the latter

[opal dew]

He's really good at Eternal, but maybe there are people who are even better at it.

[austere bronze]

that would imply he's the second best..

[quiet cloud]

😭

murican eagle is rly good too ngl

[austere bronze]

he's certainly a very solid player, but he's not in the same universe as the best players

[opal dew]

Yeah, but he can still play really well

[austere bronze]

true, many cracked players

[quiet cloud]

theres prob a random ass chinese player thats better every single person we all know

multiple*

[opal dew]

true

[austere bronze]

if that's the case, they'd have to be unknown to the chinese players too

it could be possible, but the chances are very slim

[quiet cloud]

ye ig

[austere bronze]

cause i couldn't imagine spending thousands of hours on a game without interacting with the community

would be funny though

[quiet cloud]

i mean i thought i knew who the best sekiro player was but then i saw this random vid on telegram of a random ass player beating a boss that straight up kills u if u move

so u never know

[austere bronze]

yeah it's not impossible

[quiet cloud]

😭

gng its a world first

[austere bronze]

huh?

[quiet cloud]

i wasnt talking about eternal

talking about another game

[austere bronze]

i know

[quiet cloud]

yeah

that boss is the hardest modded boss ever made

[austere bronze]

and then you added the "so u never know" part, which kinda brought the conversation back

[quiet cloud]

oh

[austere bronze]

and i just reaffirmed you with the "yeah it's not impossible"

[quiet cloud]

myb am just too dumb to communicate

https://klipy.com/gifs/johnny-joestar-jojos-bizarre-adventure-4--k01KQCCVR078G0QBS7JJZDWXSVS

[fresh yew]

Anyone on steam need help with achievements

[real holly]

Samuel Hayden:

[low bronze]

you've reminded me of something i need to do.

[quiet cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167194664890282097/1489771142804930680/attachment.gif

[low bronze]

I got to choose if I want his arms to move or be static

[tepid locust]

whats yalls faviroute crosshair in the game?

like a crosshair that is in the vanilla game

no mods

[vale bear]

is there a way to file a report for toxicity?

with screenshot evidence. me and a friend who are still new to battlemode and even newer to playing demon encountered this slayer player who is an absolute egotistical dickhead who spent the entire game shit talking when he steam rolled us

[quiet cloud]

gng if u play online games ur gonna meet ppl who are toxic

just ignore them
they are not worth bothering with

[iron lynx]

Hi everyone I’m new here. Is anyone open to the idea of helping me get trophies in battle mode? I am on PlayStation

[prime spear]

I dont play on ps and judging by my experience with the interactions I couldn't complete I can't help you sry.

[iron lynx]

That’s ok thank you anyways

[restive crest]

😭 was so close to beating UN then a cacodemon sniped me

[austere bronze]

that suckss

but you're definitely capable of doing it then !!

[harsh totem]

Umm, care to explain how you thinks the Blood Punch works lore-wise?

[quiet cloud]

slayer thinks its time to kill demons but with his hands so he proceeds to use 0.00002% of his power or smth idk

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/waltuh-gif-15047182408787778489

[chilly aspen]

Whenever someone complains about Marauders, my go-to argument is “blame the fodder, not him.”

[valid rain]

Unless he's buffed in a tiny arena

His Ai tends to get a bit goofy in those predicaments

[quiet cloud]

the words buffed and marauder do not go together

they are buggy as shit

[valid rain]

Canceling their greens or just dashing into your asshole to shove a double barrel in it.

Pause

[quiet cloud]

gng

u could have worded that literally any other way

and it wouldnt have been this weird lmfao

[valid rain]

It fr be how it feel tho

[quiet cloud]

ik what u should do when u encounter a buffed marauder

step 1 : close the game

step 2 : go to the mountains and become a saint or smth

[valid rain]

Cuh turns you into a monk fr, gotta go bald

[quiet cloud]

true monk refrence

https://tenor.com/view/this-peak-is-this-peak-so-peak-peak-it's-just-so-peak-gif-1360442599844596686

[valid rain]

Alr I'ma go numb my brain with some bs for an hour.

[open trench]

anyone looking to help me boost the battlemode achievements on xbox? i have a spare one X with an alt profile so just need 1 player

[iron lynx]

I would but I’m on PlayStation 🫩

Unless it’s cross play

[gusty swan]

Battlemode is dead

[crystal ridge]

Why is gladiator so hard on nightmare bru 😭 anyone have tips? I’m stuck on the second phase

[formal plover]

Davoth is so hard to beat

[sand jackal]

When I fought Davoth he made me rage quit

[sand jackal]

What main weapons do you primarily use and what are your peripherals cause I'd recommend using super shotgun and heavy cannon

What skin in doom eternal do any of you guys use most often

[crystal ridge]

Primarily for the weaker heavy demons like the hell knight, revenant and arachnotron I use super shotgun+heavy cannon and for stronger heavy demons and bosses I use ballista+super shotgun

[sand jackal]

Good pick for aresenal

[crystal ridge]

I’ve been trying a few new combos with the boss, like rocket laucher w/lock on+ballista

[sand jackal]

Im not sure how much I could recommend

[crystal ridge]

It’s alright I’ll just thug it out

[sand jackal]

Since I've been getting back into doom

[crystal ridge]

I used the sentinel armour on my first playthrough (on ultra violence)I think, but this second one (nightmare) I’m being too stubborn to use sentinel armour lmao

[sand jackal]

Question how many master levels have you beat

[crystal ridge]

Never tried one

[sand jackal]

For starters to master levels I say start with hurt me plenty and do the arc complex its the easiest one in my opinion

[crystal ridge]

Okok

I might try it on ultra violence

[sand jackal]

I ve beaten the arc complex on nightmare

[crystal ridge]

I like the challenge but it makes me want to die, but that’s the fun of it

[crystal ridge]

:O

[sand jackal]

And once stayed up till 2:00 in the morning beating the mars core master level

[crystal ridge]

Jesus

[sand jackal]

Yea some take long

Have you beaten the dlcs

[crystal ridge]

No I just bought the ancient gods 1 but I wanna finish my replay of nightmare on the main campaign first

So that I go into the ancient gods as prepared as possible cause I hear it’s hard

[sand jackal]

Davoth is the final boss in the dlcs he's just a marauder on steroids

[crystal ridge]

Oh god

[sand jackal]

Yea but beating him is really satisfying

I very beaten the whole modern trilogy of doom

[crystal ridge]

I remember struggling so much with the first marauder on my first playthrough of the main campaign cause I didn’t understand how effective weapon switching was, yet on my replay I beat him first try cause I understand how the mechanics work so much better 😭

[crystal ridge]

Hell yeah twin

I’ve beaten all 3 of the modern games

[sand jackal]

I've tried beating the original trilogy but idk its something about it that makes it fun but hard to attempt to beat

[crystal ridge]

It’s cause back in those days they wanted you to have the challenge and showed no mercy probably lmao

[graceful current]

by original do u mean 1, 2, 64?

or 1, 2, Final or 1, 2, 3

[sand jackal]

And counting 3 yes

Im playing eternal rn as im yapping to yall

[crystal ridge]

Hell yeah bro

[sand jackal]

Fun fact I've beaten eternal 3 separate times once on my switch and two others on my xbox

[crystal ridge]

On switch???

[sand jackal]

Yep

[crystal ridge]

Holy shit I can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been lmao

[sand jackal]

Well at the time I didn't have any other console but the switch

[crystal ridge]

Oh true

[sand jackal]

When dark ages was announced I played it a friends house and loved it and asked if there was any other doom game that worked on switch

I have doom on way to many devices

Steam deck switch xbox

[crystal ridge]

Imagine playing doom eternal on like, an iPad or something

[sand jackal]

Some dude did it on a calculator

[crystal ridge]

Eternal???

[sand jackal]

Yep

[crystal ridge]

Holy shit

[sand jackal]

https://youtu.be/XmY83eCzHwI?si=HdKdH_7B-w_-scbl

It worked 2 besides running at like 10 fps

[crystal ridge]

Omg

[sand jackal]

Yea im a big doom nerd

Have you gotten the unmakyr

[crystal ridge]

Watching it rn

[crystal ridge]

Nope! I heard it’s really underwhelming

[sand jackal]

You have to make it fun with cheat codes

I got it in 1 week

And we can all agree the blood makers are so annoying to fight

[cedar blade]

At least they're not all that difficult.

And their glory kills, however rare, are awesome.

[crystal ridge]

OH MY GOD I DID IT