doom-eternal

[low bronze]

well that sucks. Idk how to install mods from nexus or game banana

[clear holly]

You can ask here in Eternal modding or in Doom 2016+ Modding server, if needed. I never played Eternal with mods, but assume you need mod injector for Nexus/Banana one.

[limber inlet]

Hey, I read that Doom Eternal is "Officially supported" on the steam deck, but I'm wondering if I can get an explanation of what exactly that means, or some help with the issue I'm facing. I'm trying to submit a bug report on bethesda.net and I can't because it needs dxdiag/msinfo and those don't exist on the Steam Deck. (My bug that I'm trying to report involves being stuck on the "Press A to start" screen at the start of a mission when I'm using M+KB and the A button is out of reach)

[ebon elbow]

yeah eternal is one of those games where you rust fast. just play for a bit and you'll get back into it. I kept mistiming my quickswaps when I returned after a few months

[little holly]

I hate the brain spiders

I dont remember their names but i dislike them heavily

[quiet crypt]

They're light work, just use a PB to knock off their turret.

[little holly]

Whats a PB? I just got started on the game

[quiet crypt]

do you not have tutorials on? I'm pretty sure it tells you the weakpoint of the arachnatron, a PB is a mod for the heavy cannon (Precision Bolt)

It used for destryong weakpoints and doing quick switches

[little holly]

Yes i do have tutorials on

[little holly]

Ooh alright

Thanks anyway :D

[quiet crypt]

Oh yeah, you can use a Sticky Bomb to destroy the turret as well

It's cheaper in the early game, as a PB costs 6 Heavy Cannon ammo to do

[rigid cedar]

Can you quickswitch as efficiently on console like you can PC?

[quiet crypt]

Good luck playing this game on console, let alone quick switching 💔 🥀

[twin umbra]

and now with this update every time i launch the game it crashes
like all normal at first but then i press one key and it crash

not sure if it's just me or it happens to other people

[low bronze]

i can try to launch without mods to check if ya want

[twin umbra]

eh not sure if that will change anything
right now i dont have any mods on it because injector it's outdated

[low bronze]

damn

[warped sage]

Wild that this just launched on GOG but it’s also being offered super cheap there as a promo.

Great Doom game offered at a great discount.

Oh and no DRM too.

[twin umbra]

I know this is dumb to ask but ¿what it's the difference of the GOG Doom and the Vanilla Doom (the steam version)?
i know it doesnt launch the ID launcher or use any type of ID thing or maybe i'm just confusing myself

[warped sage]

GOG Doom has no DRM of course, but I also read that the use of Bethesda.net account is completely optional

[twin umbra]

i see

[austere bronze]

yes

there is a marginal difference in the speed you're able to go at, but it's so small it doesn't really matter

[austere bronze]

why discourage someone unnecessarily? it's very possible to play eternal on console

[quiet crypt]

I'm not discouraging him??

Doom Eternal sucks to play on console, that's why I said good luck

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/B0zqciiyUBU?is=Qz3TI1dOc3A1F1iZ&t=36

this is a console player at 450 hours, and it's super rare to see someone that good at 450 hours on pc

[storm eagle]

[quiet crypt]

So you're comparing someone that's sunk 100's of hours into the game to someone who is presumably just trying to get into it on console? based on the questions he was asking

[austere bronze]

no, i'm just saying i don't think the game sucks to play on console

it's a hard game no matter your platform, so it moreso depends on what you're familiar with

[quiet crypt]

That's your opion then, I'm speaking from personal experience as when Eternal first came out, I tried playing it on console and it sucked, before eventually caving in and getting it on my PC

[austere bronze]

that's anecdotal though, there isn't anything that objectively or universally makes eternal suck on console

i don't think a console player could become the absolute best eternal player, since it is a bit worse than mkb, but it'd be possible to get in or almost in the top 5

[supple schooner]

DOOM (2016) has no multiplayer included.

[quiet crypt]

I'm not the only one who thinks eternal sucks on console, ask many people who first started on console and they will probably tell you that it sucked.

Idk why you're making such a big deal out of a single statement I made

[supple schooner]

You have to be really, really good to play well on console. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_B0kkpeGdI&list=PL_qUta4H3zmbQnyUEHaIQ307jQjcIwd-b&index=4

[austere bronze]

isn't it the same on pc?

[astral hamlet]

I mean there kinda is
no individual weapon binds is already a huge handicap

[olive moss]

https://tenor.com/view/security-guard-guard-getting-hit-guard-stan-twitter-stantwt-gif-11522368493661569910

[supple schooner]

PC easier to play, naturally. Unless you play DE with a Crontroller there.

[astral hamlet]

maybe not enough to make it "suck" per se but easily enough to make console players at a disadvantage to pc

[austere bronze]

this video came out 11 days after release btw

[astral hamlet]

and with a game that's already as mechanically difficult for new players especially as eternal is, console is going to have an even steeper learning curve

[supple schooner]

One of the bigggest reason Hugo failed too much often on his livestreams is because of he using controller to play DOOM Eternal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJoyFx0ZpSU

[astral hamlet]

like yeah, you can be good on console, great even
but it's pretty clear that it's harder to be good on console than it is on pc

significantly so, unless you're already used to playing a bunch of shooters at a high level on controller

[austere bronze]

i agree that console isn't as good as pc, but i think some stuff is more comfortable to learn and perform on there
and the limitations present on controller are regarding less important things, and surmountable

[low bronze]

Is anyone having long load times for logging in to bethesda.net

[austere bronze]

how do you know it's because he uses a controller?

[supple schooner]

Huh, it's there on HUD. And Hugo hasd stated he always preferred to play on consoles instead of PC. Maybe this is why DOOM The Dark Ages is much easier than DOOM Eternal.

[austere bronze]

console has fewer binds than pc though

[astral hamlet]

yeah

so to use all your stuff effectively it's gonna be more difficult

[austere bronze]

i meant why do you think he struggles because he uses a controller?

[quiet cloud]

eternal is just plain harder with controller especially because of the weapon swap situation cause of fewer binds

[supple schooner]

Yes, and he has skill issues too. Lose-lose.

[low bronze]

It still not let in me

[quiet cloud]

btw any1 here has ever experienced crashes when they use bfg

cause am playing a mod for eternal and in one encounter u have to use bfg to progress and ma game just crashes everytime i progress there

i got a r7 7800x3d and a 4070ti

so its prob not a performance issue

[austere bronze]

that is true, but it also isn't what players need to focus that hard on immediately

funnily enough, what i see most console players struggle with the most is movement, which is something that isn't worse on console (except ballista boosts), and it's also what most pc players struggle with

i'd say it's possible for a console player to become a top 5 player, and definitely top 10, although at that level the limitations with controller will be more noticeable

[storm eagle]

That is odd. Try binding it to something else and see if it still happens

[quiet cloud]

might be the mods fault cause i saw so many bugged walls in gore nest

ill try binding it to smth else ty

[low bronze]

i couldn't play it kept saying "connecting to bethesda.net"

[storm eagle]

lmk if it works

[quiet cloud]

ye i tried it like 10 mins ago

didnt work

i figured it out tho i just looked down when i used the bfg and that somehow didnt cause me to crash

ill def look into this further

[warped sage]

At least he seems to be still enjoying it, that’s what important.

Just having fun

[austere bronze]

uac atlantica is such a good level

especially with how they used varied environments that still fit together, and the arena design is peak

[storm eagle]

It's my fave in TAG1 tbh

I don't think it's too long either

[high kayak]

The soundtrack for the dlcs is one of my favourite

But I think it gets a little bit undermined because everyone always focuses on mick

No offence to him, love mick as well

[minor abyss]

DOOM is Eternal

[mystic valve]

It's the most 2016 feeling level in Eternal, and that's probably what they were going for

[real holly]

My favorite levels in Eternal are all in TAG 1, but if I had to rank em top 3, UAC would undoubtedly be least favorite of my top 3 favorite levels

there's some arenas I think are unnecessary and pad out the level a bit too much

[austere bronze]

after having played eternal without any CC (knockback/slowdown) and coming back to it, i don't hate it as much anymore

i still think it's somewhat overused, and it really suffers from some attacks with it sometimes being broken
though overall i don't mind it all too much

[real holly]

playing grounded mfs when faced with knockback/slowdown attaxks

https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-ashton-gta-gta-5-gta-v-gif-2349664973986874613

like shit i vary my level of grounded-ness but it's so not optimal in shit like that enclosed arena in sgn ml with carcasses and tyrants and doom hunters

you can dash to dodge the whiplashes ranged attack but it's so hard

[austere bronze]

grounded slayers are fake

[real holly]

this might be real

[austere bronze]

i feel like i barely see players entirely stick to playing grounded

[real holly]

i chose grounded when I can, which is alot more than people initially know

[austere bronze]

and what players define as grounded also differs

[austere bronze]

except for in online play ofc

[real holly]

but there's some arenas where it's grueling torture to do grounded

[real holly]

legitimately many times just with basic moving and dashing you can do plenty

[austere bronze]

for sure

i mean you can do any level with grounded gameplay, but whether or not it's a good approach depends on arena and demons

also i don't think almost only aircamping is optimal, true aircamping sequences isn't something i incorporate a lot

though staying in the air a lot is still often a really good idea

[real holly]

ye

aircamping enthusiasts when presented with a possesed pain elemental

https://tenor.com/view/esports-game-game-time-game-day-game-on-gif-20437016

also too much aircamping just isn't fun, at least for me

[austere bronze]

same

i used to do it a lot, so now i don't like hyperfocusing on it anymore

[dawn bison]

Lanrete mood

[real holly]

whar

[cloud kayak]

guys how tf do people manage to play ultra nightmare master levels

i get my ass beat when a single marauder shows up in "im too young to die" campaign

panicking, running out of ammo, getting physically stuck in a corner, spamming the wrong moves, etc

[drowsy wedge]

practice

[cloud kayak]

the thing is, i finished the main campaign (somehow), where do i even practice now

[fringe torrent]

Look up good strats to defeat Marauders. With some practice you can 1v1 one easily

[fringe torrent]

You can keep playing it, level select is an option, or just a new game

[cloud kayak]

yeah but will i get better at it if i play the same levels over and over? i already replayed all the levels again (but this time to 100% them all by doing all demonic encounters and slayer gates)

is there a "new randomly generated map and demons every time" mode

to make things unpredictable

[drowsy wedge]

another run

the more you play the better you get

up the difficulty this time

[cloud kayak]

hmmm

okay, il try the next difficulty level

[fringe torrent]

That is what practice means, yes

[cloud kayak]

yeah. btw, does increased difficulty increase the number of demons or the strength of each demon

[clear holly]

As far as I'm aware enemy count is the same, but enemies have more chances for special attacks and charge you more same as deal more damage.

[austere bronze]

i was in that exact same spot, but just playing more like others have said can make you however good you want

focusing on getting better by talking with good players, practicing things you don't know, and just wondering about what you can do better will help a lot

[cloud kayak]

yeah, playing slayer gates was fun (demonic encounters? not so much because of the time constraint), i liked zooming across the map wiping the demons out, wish there were more of these gates

also why wont it let me select some of these unlocked customizeable stuff (cant post screenshots here)

[modest swift]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

[rigid cedar]

Does anyone here play on console💔

[austere bronze]

some definitely do, why?

[austere bronze]

#screenshots

[fiery dagger]

a well landed ballista shot can insta stun a marauder even with its shield

easy cheese

[cloud kayak]

sent it there

[austere bronze]

sorry, no idea what's going on there

[austere bronze]

if they're aiming their shield away or you just get lucky

[fiery dagger]

no

u aim the ballista next to their feet

so the aoe does enough dmg to stun them

and u can spam it

[austere bronze]

ohh yeah feet ballista ofc

although that does require you to have dealt 1001 (or more) damage beforehand and not too long ago

[gaunt smelt]

Any tips on the last arena in TAG2 with the possessed mancubus (I’m struggling a lot with dodging the barons that keep moving across ledges while I’m doing glory kills for health)

The archvile normally isn’t a problem because I already have 2 blood bunches and an ice bomb saved up by the time it shows up

[austere bronze]

do you have savagery equipped to give less time for enemies to reposition?

and mobile turret works quite well against barons of hell, since it will falter them regularly, you just have to be careful to not take damage or tunnel vision while using it

if the possessed mancubus is giving you trouble, i recommend just tapping it with the microwave beam whenever it gets dangerous, because even a super short tap will "falter" it

lock-on burst is also good against any possessed enemy, and it's very powerful against archviles if they're already frozen (i wouldn't spend blood punches on archviles most of the time)

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah I mainly rely on LOB

And meathook

[ivory leaf]

I am slowly getting better in Eternal. Just completed Arc Complex Master Level on Nightmare

[gaunt smelt]

I got that on UV I don’t play the Master Levels much, not a big fan personally, much rather do Horde Mode

[scenic axle]

Dang really? I feel like the master levels are way better than horde mode

[gaunt smelt]

Well like by the avoiding in time, it’s not the glory kills directly are causing, it’s the fact the Barons keep moving up and down while I’m tryna focus on other problematic heavies, particularly pain elementals and cacos

[gaunt smelt]

Well when SGN is the first Master Level you play you get the impression it’s an hour long horde mode

[scenic axle]

💀

fair

well horde mode is like an hour long for me

[austere bronze]

horde mode is much longer than sgn ml yeah

[astral hamlet]

horde mode is really just a master level with randomized weapons and more gimmicks

[austere bronze]

do you mean that the barons of hell are constantly able to pressure you?

[ivory leaf]

The Master Levels are perfect for a mid player like me to train. In Super Gore Nest I actually started to do what I saw in the Gameplay vids from Pros but clearly not as good as them but still. I'm just happy I am starting to improve

[astral hamlet]

because the enemy spawns don't actually change

[austere bronze]

mls are good for most players to practice in tbh

[clear holly]

Don't know, if it's normal, but I have same issue as Katsu and game periodically crashes now.

[austere bronze]

or not most players, but most players among those who can somewhat comfortably beat mls

[ivory leaf]

Yeah crashes also happened to me a lot

I thought it was my One S being not powerful enough

But I dont mind (as long as it doesnt happen near the end of a Master Level)

[austere bronze]

mid-ml crashes suck so bad

[fringe torrent]

I do

[ivory leaf]

Same here.

[twin umbra]

i might have a sight suspicius that using msi afterburner it's the cause most of my crashes and fps drops

[gaunt smelt]

More like it comes out of nowhere and fucking snipes me

[scenic axle]

If you keep moving at a good pace they shouldn't be able to get you

[real holly]

they both aren't that great

[fringe torrent]

They both are that great

[austere bronze]

fake news!!

[gaunt smelt]

Nah like earlier I was legit dashing and moving down and it comes from the side from like an awning and fucking one shots me

I was headed for a zombie that I had just put in a GK state

[real holly]

master levels are too long, literally my main criticism, by the half of them im already burnt out

[austere bronze]

i can't know for sure since i haven't seen your gameplay, but i'd guess this is because of tunnel vision or a lack of situational awareness, or both since they are very closely linked

tunnel vision is when you focus on one enemy or a group of them, especially focusing on dps-ing them, and thereby forget to move, restack, or control the arena (vague concept ik, i can specify if you want me to), or a combination of them
it sounds like a beginner mistake, but it's present in i'd say virtually every person's gameplay (even among the absolute best players) just to varying degrees

and having good situational awareness means not tunnel visioning, but also being aware of the demons present and if a demon is in a spot where they threaten you
moving around a lot, getting into the air, and looking at your whole screen helps with this a lot

[austere bronze]

for most of them, if they were shorter, they'd be very underwhelming

they're meant to be a harder experience, which, if you don't want to lose arenas, means making the levels longer

[real holly]

idk abt that, i understand challenging versions of levels but making them so long changes them from just challenging to sluggish

even without dying once they take soooo long

[austere bronze]

having checkpoints in them would of course be awesome, but apparently they couldn't figure out how to implement that

[scenic axle]

I think the only one that’s too long is world spear

[real holly]

like i really can't enjoy Master levels primarily bc they take so long

super gore nest is the only one with an appropriate length

[austere bronze]

yeah, i agree, i beat sgn ml in 20-21 minutes

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah it might have been temporary tunnel vision

[austere bronze]

taras in about 30 iirc

[real holly]

mars core, taras nabad and world spear go on for too long

[gaunt smelt]

Cuz I was at decent health and armor but I needed a lot more

[austere bronze]

think it was 28 or 29 minutes

[clear holly]

I restarted Nightmare today and finally started to get into Eternal flow, but still lost so many Extra Lives simply because I got hit by high tier enemy in the back or I don't expect so much damage and get too confident with rushing enemy. Would be cool to have ability that signals that there is enemy behind my back.
But it's way better now. Yesterday, it was miserable.

Don't rememeber already how to upgrade properly, but I went:

• 1 Health+ 1 Armor = Faster recharge for Flamethrower. + 1 Health. Plan to get +1 Ammo for more armor from enemies. Then would go for drops from higher distance.
• Faster recharge for Dash and frag grenade. Plan to go for Dash recharge after GK and 2 frag grenades.
• Runes: Longer Stagger and Final Blow (extra life).
• Weapons: Shotgun - Sticky Bombs (going for mastery); Assault Rifle - Scope (going form mastery); Plasma Rfile - Heat Blast; Rocket Launcher - Lock On; Super Shotgun - going for mastery.

With such upgrades I feel cooldowns better and it feels way more handy. But is it optimal approach?
Also does Extra life Rune works before player lose actual picked up Extra Lives or does it work after all lives are lost?

[austere bronze]

obviously it will usually take longer, but each normal level still takes about half an hour to beat for people who don't struggle with UN

so much shorter MLs wouldn't make a lot of sense imo

[fringe torrent]

What extra life rune? Do you mean the one unlocked in TAG 1?

[clear holly]

No, Final Blow or something. Always forget it's name. Same as in Doom 2016 it grants extra chance to survive after final hit.

[austere bronze]

i would go with drops from further away before armor at faster rates
hot swapper as the first rune upgrade, faster dashes as second, then just whatever i feel like
air control first, then equipment fiend/savagery/dazed and confused

[clear holly]

Saving Throw!

[austere bronze]

for weapon mods and such it really does't exist as optimized paths, so i can't really comment on that

mostly just due to them being up to personal playstyle a lot, though the meathook mastery is goated to get early true

[scenic axle]

I agree with world spear but I think the rest are all just slightly longer than the normal levels which is a good amount

[gaunt smelt]

Mars Core is pretty fire though

But no I’m also okay TAG2 on Nightmare rn and lowkey I’m not loving it

[fringe torrent]

That's TAG 2 for ya

[fringe torrent]

Also I do not know unfortunately. Posting this so it doesn't look like I ignored you

[austere bronze]

think saving throw works before an extra life is lost, can't say for certain though

and i don't think it will re-activate if you lose an extra life

[sacred zenith]

Hey

[austere bronze]

hello!

[sacred zenith]

I’m gonna try learning E1M1 tomorrow because it’s 11:30 where I am

I tried before and gave up but I’m better at guitar now so I’ll try again

[hollow cypress]

it doesn’t, i’m 99% sure

[clear holly]

Thank you very much!

Yeah, I would go for Equipment Rune next for sure. Already took Dazed and Confused. Air Control messes with me too much, unfortunately.

Didn't go for fast swap, because I barely use fast swap. Mostly use mix of weapons+mods (but just scrolling through them, if needed), a lot of Dash, Flamethrower, GKs. Periodically Frag Grenade. Rarely use Chainsaw (often try to save for high tier enemy) and Ice Grenade (mostly against Whiplashes or high tier) and I guess that's it. I use Blood Punch mostly on accident, when going for GK or against Pinkies/Armored enemies. Probably need to use these 3 more often.

I would go for SSG mastery first then. 👍

Got it! Thanks once again. I guess, I'll stick with Saving Throw for now. Maybe later would replace with some other, when would feel more confident.

[hollow cypress]

i’ve used it in extra life playthroughs and horde mode

it doesn’t

[clear holly]

No worries! 🙏

[austere bronze]

oh ye, you're right

[austere bronze]

without quick swaps hot swapper does become less useful true, although i still think it's worth going for early, especially since it speeds up mod swap animations too

[twin umbra]

question ¿does anybody using the injector mod have some kind of fps drops or perfomance issue? as long side with some crashes ?

like vanilla doom eternal without modding i'm perfectly fine but with the injector mod i got some perfomance issue like from 120 fps to 60 or even 50 fps from all the sudden

[clear holly]

I have similar issues, but not sure it's related to ModInjector. Yesterday and today, I had random crashes and FPS drops with vanilla game too.

[austere bronze]

yeah you definitely want to use those 3 often, because you don't want to be out of ammo, getting all ammo pools to roughly 50% then chainsawing is a good rule of thumb imo, but there are ofc exceptions, like when you use lock-on burst
ice doesn't need to used super often like other equipment, but you don't want to have it off cooldown too much
and blood punch is imo a really underrated piece of the arsenal, it hard falters enemies 360 degrees around you and deals almost as much/more damage than rocket (depending on where in the game you are), i'd recommend just experimenting with it to see how you can use it effectively

(also idk why i didn't just turn these 2 messages into 1, sorry)

[twin umbra]

yeah it's weird

[gaunt smelt]

Ok lowkey tho the ice bombs cooldown is too long

[astral hamlet]

well the ice bomb is also really OP

so you gotta balance that with the long cooldown

[austere bronze]

yeah

[clear holly]

Guess, it's the same story for me as with Stun Bomb in 2016. I know Ice Bomb is good, but barely use it, since can't integrate well into combat loop. Maybe due to cooldown, maybe due to switching from Frag Grenade and inability to Glory Kill stunned/frozen enemies.

[gaunt smelt]

I play on console so trying to switch between frag and ice almost always ends up in me switching mods and it’s super annoying with the rocket launcher bc lowkey remote det is useless

[fringe torrent]

Could rebind the controls to fix that maybe

[low bronze]

asking again because of last night. Dpes anyone have the same problem of it constantly saying "Conneting to Bethseda.net"

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah but finding a good replacements kinda hard

[austere bronze]

i agree that that would be very annoying, but i will not stand for such remote det slander😤

it's my prefered rocket launcher mod

[low bronze]

on pc

forgot to add that

[fringe torrent]

D-Pad down is unbound right? You could rebind switching equipment to that, that way it's further away from switching mods

[gaunt smelt]

Lowk judging you so hard rm

[austere bronze]

in what way whatt😭

[gaunt smelt]

Idk I’d have to check when I get home but that’s a good idea

[austere bronze]

and why!

[gaunt smelt]

Every way

Remote det is trash

[austere bronze]

i disagree
remote det is very effective at crowd control

[astral hamlet]

is it tho

It deals just 2/3rds the damage of a normal rocket explosion to a smaller area

[austere bronze]

it allows you to have a larger degree of control over the battlefield by stopping demons, setting up longer falter chains, and keeping them from moving

[austere bronze]

you can earn that back through detonating missed rockets though

plus you won't lose out on a lot of damage since you detonate far from all rockets

[astral hamlet]

idk man
It feels only useful for the free falter

[austere bronze]

yeah the falter is what makes it good

[astral hamlet]

which you can get a number of other ways

[austere bronze]

more falters is better though

more falters will always be better

[astral hamlet]

right, but the opportunity cost is the best source of burst damage in the game

[austere bronze]

you don't use lock-on burst super often though, since a single barrage consumes half the ammo you get from each chainsaw

it doesn't cost you lock-on burst, since you can just swap between them

i like maining remote det during fights because i really like integrating the falters into combos (and even detonating it on demons i'm not engaging yet), or to detonate missed rockets, and then i swap to lock-on burst whenever a high priority or dangerous demon appears

same for sticky bombs and full auto, i main stickies but swap to full auto

same for dblade and arba, pb and micro missiles too

with the plasma rifle i don't really have a preferred mod

[gaunt smelt]

Alright buddy I’ll take this seriously when I see remote detonate actually help in Final Sin

[astral hamlet]

all the more reason to steer away from remote det imo
because you're using a whole rocket to accomplish something you could accomplish essentially for free with a frag (plus a frag's a hard falter)

[gaunt smelt]

Real

Ice and frag after when I’m cornered is my go-to

Then I back out, throw a regular rocket, swap, shoot, then 2 LOBs

[astral hamlet]

obviously if you can pb-rocket well, then lock-on burst loses a lot of usefulness because pb-rocket is more ammo efficient
so it makes sense to me why you (M1) use remote det more often
but for most players remote det is kinda just a bad investment--can't even handle basic higher tier fodder consistently and the falter is more easily found elsewhere

[clear holly]

That sounds interesting. I never played through faltering enemies. I mostly try to kill them on the spot with as much damage as possible in 1 go and if it doesn't work I retreat to fodder refill resiources and go back to big folks.
What about ammo consumption with such mods?
Like Shotgun with Full Auto, Assault Rifle Micro Missiles, Plasma Magnetron, Remote Detonate. I barely used them in any of my old playthroughs. But I guess they can be used enough, if chainsaw is used often, right?

[gaunt smelt]

Usually I swap Rocket with Ballista or SSG

[austere bronze]

i mean
https://youtu.be/DTPmu5rkl6M?is=-IhJeRE_5fo1ct3b

[gaunt smelt]

Ok but being so real, being forced to use full auto because of Stone Imps is such a bad decision. Lowk never used it until I looked in the codex to figure why Imps were suddenly white

[austere bronze]

though, not sure how much i actually used remote det here, since i often try to maximize DPS (survival isn't really a worry), so maybe not the best example

[gaunt smelt]

Atlantica Facility was never a roadblock for me but then again I haven’t touched TAG1 since I beat it on Extra Life Too Young to Die

Atlantica Facility just felt dragged out at the start more than anything

[austere bronze]

that's cbt atlantica which is a modded level

much harder than any normal master level

[gaunt smelt]

Ok

[austere bronze]

use the rocket and frag! more falters means that enemies attack you less, and have less opportunities to do anything

[gaunt smelt]

I can only say that I’d use remote det if there was a pain elemental or caco right before you get the SSG in Cultist Base

Not using remote det any other time though

[astral hamlet]

obviously more falters on its face is gonna be better

[austere bronze]

well the thing is that quick swaps both make remote det better and worse
it's easier to integrate into gameplay that way, but during the time it takes to mod swap, you're also losing out on more

[astral hamlet]

but when I'm already utilizing frags, ice bomb, heat blast, weak point breaks, blood punch, etc. I just don't see the need to waste rockets on a task that can be performed without such a high cost

[gaunt smelt]

But like remote detonate is not gonna help me for Final Sin, Nekravol or Sentinel Prime

[astral hamlet]

I mean it can

I'm not arguing that it's not useful--it is

[gaunt smelt]

Nah I shoot and worry about that shot later

That’s why I legit can’t use remote det, it’s just cuz I’m not worried about my rocket after I’ve fired it

[austere bronze]

the harder a map is, the better remote det becomes (and the less lock-on helps, relatively)

[gaunt smelt]

Tyrants

[austere bronze]

i'd recommend experimenting with it

[gaunt smelt]

I have

[austere bronze]

i used to completely dismiss it, but then i got into it and realised yoo this is rad

[gaunt smelt]

Ice and LOBs usually get that stuff down for what remote detonate COULD do

[austere bronze]

how much/little you use remote det will come down to playstyle, but i think it has a place in any player's arsenal who is trying to survive and not "speedrun" levels

[gaunt smelt]

Like I could see its usefulness, I’m just never in a scenario where that’s beneficial at all

[austere bronze]

what about them?

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

[gaunt smelt]

LOBs are way better in taking care of tyrants than remote detonate

[astral hamlet]

tyrants and barons have resistance to lock on burst, so they're not really a great showcase for it anyways

[gaunt smelt]

They have a resistance to literally everything

[astral hamlet]

no

[gaunt smelt]

Beefy annoyances

[austere bronze]

true, but its not the goal of remote det to dps-max, so that's kinda irrelevant (btw, tyrants and barons have a 30% resistance to lob)

[astral hamlet]

tyrants especially are enormous stationary targets, so you can just kinda swap through whatever weapons you want and everything's going to hit

[gaunt smelt]

Barons are the exception, but like with tyrants, where they don’t normally cause me a problem except for them being so freaking big, that I do my usual, and while I’m not actively attacking something else, I switch to LOB them and I’m good

[astral hamlet]

2 normal rockets deal about the same damage to a tyrant or baron as a lock on burst

[gaunt smelt]

Problem is a tyrant can dodge

And I don’t like that

[astral hamlet]

tyrants are kinda ass at dodging tbh

[gaunt smelt]

And rockets are stupid slow

Bro I guess just got bad luck or something

[austere bronze]

well here's the thing though, no one is constantly faltering (if you were you'd never die), and remote det allows you to, seamlessly, integrate more falters

the fact that you have other falter sources doesn't detract from remote det, since they can all play into eachother nicely to allow for really cool "falter combos" or control of the battle

[gaunt smelt]

Cuz lowk they always be dodging when I send a regular rocket

And move right before I fire the ballista, so it always ends up missing

[astral hamlet]

all of this is true
I'm just saying that the opportunity cost is not there for me

rockets are a fairly scarce resource, and burst dps isn't exactly easy to come by unless you're swapping a bunch or using something like, idk, full auto

if I got more rockets from a chainsaw than just 6, I'd definitely consider using remote det more often

also if the inner explosion radius wasn't so damn small

[austere bronze]

full auto has great dps, but i wouldn't use it a ton without its mastery, since that's what makes it really useful. with the mastery, upon killing a demon you get back shells, which makes full auto the absolutely best mod for ammo economy xd

micro missiles isn't spammable, unless you wanna be out of ammo, so i'd either use pb more, or not use either a lot

plasma magnetron? do you mean heat blast or microwave beam?

remote detonate isn't really costly ammo-wise (though it does depend on how much you use it), throwing in a couple exploding rockets here and there won't have a massive hit on your economy. though it will still have an effect, but since remote det still deals damage (just not as much as a normal rocket), and you can explode rockets you otherwise would've missed, the amount of damage-per-rocket stays roughly the same with or without remote det. however! lock-on burst actually decreases damage per rocket, due to lack of splash, and it consumes 3 rockets, so i'd consider that mod much less ammo friendly

[astral hamlet]

lobs deal the same damage as a regular rocket to their target (900)
in eternal, at least--in 2016 they deal less

except instead of 300 direct + 600 splash it's 875 direct + 25 splash

[austere bronze]

how you play will come down to personal playstyle a lot, so you might not use all weapon mods, or use them to varying degrees, but i think in general that optimal play includes almost all weapon mods

[austere bronze]

exactly, which is why you will ultimately get less damage per rocket

[astral hamlet]

oh you mean total damage

[austere bronze]

that's when remote det would be useful for example ;p

[astral hamlet]

but in that case remote det does even less

except for pinkies, which take like 200% damage from remote det explosions, you're getting both a bigger explosion and more damage from just shooting a rocket at the floor

[austere bronze]

and due to rockets being so scarce, you can't use lock-on a lot at all, and during the time you don't use it, you may as well have remote det equipped

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-drunk-shocked-surprised-gif-15546336

[austere bronze]

hmm?

[astral hamlet]

lol

[austere bronze]

using remote det will obviously decrease the amount you can use lob, which is where personal playstyle comes in to play

[astral hamlet]

lob isn't something you use very often, since it kinda just deletes most heavies
but being able to use it 2x per chainsaw is still very strong

[austere bronze]

but i still think it's a useful mod to every player, since there are times when you have rockets flying, and you can just prevent taking damage by detonating the rocket, and if you miss a rocket, might as well detonate

[astral hamlet]

but yes, playstyle and what all you need from a given weapon comes into play here

[last hornet]

Never ever used that mod😅 it was the most useless for me

But I cannot even imagine playing the game without bombn shotgun sheels

[austere bronze]

starting with one remote det into longer falter combos is also super good imo (remote det->weak point break with the break blast rune->frag->dblade->another weakpoint)

the creativity is very large with the remote det

[austere bronze]

my reasoning is kinda that you want to save lob for particular high prio targets, so when they're not present, you might as well have remote det out

and that goes for every player, regardless of playstyle i think

and from there the usage of the mod can split up

[astral hamlet]

weelll
for my skill level at least, high priority targets are hell/dread knights, carcasses, pain elementals, barons, and archies
with the exception of carcasses which can be dealt with a number of ways, lock on burst is a really easy way of killing or dealing massive damage to any of the above enemies, which in harder content are almost always present in some capacity

[austere bronze]

the utility isn't super clear in the beginning! but it's also commonly disregarded by even really good players (and some of the absolute best players) which makes me sad :<

i do genuinely think all players can benefit from it

[last hornet]

Used to think eternal was extremely hard and nothing like 2016 then I realized the fact that chainsaw keeps renewing

[austere bronze]

i don't think hell knights should be up there xd
carcasses can be disregarded on account of low health, and the pain elemtnal due to ballista weakness

barons have their resistance which makes me very hesitant at using lob against them, especially considering options like mobile turret with the falters

then you're left with the dread knight and archvile, where lock-on genuinely is very good

[gaunt smelt]

Ok by LOBs also work just fine

Remote Det with that would have to be incredibly luck-based

And plus it wouldn’t do nearly as much damage

[austere bronze]

but lob also isn't always the solution to those 2, as you may get a really nice dblade setup or something

[gaunt smelt]

Bro I hardly use the ballista mods and when I do I’m always completely isolated

Which honestly is almost never the case when a tyrant is around

[last hornet]

Oh fuck them hell knights bro just f****** sponges

[gaunt smelt]

Dreadknights are worse

Infinitely

[last hornet]

I call them artificial difficulty they are not hard but just annoying

[gaunt smelt]

They lowkey kill me when I get unlucky and am trying to dodge and find a quick glory kill

They always do that weird like blade move that makes it go through the air

And it somehow always lands 😭

Ok but can we all agree that Whiplashes are like Top 5 worst enemies

[last hornet]

It's scripted move away just before it lands

[austere bronze]

also btw, going back to this

i wouldn't try to always kill demons in one go. you want to focus on moving throughout the entire arena and restacking all 3 stacks while doing so, and then move between targets. then you can prioritise which demon to focus the most on and potentially use high damage options (like lob) or many falters for, to take out quickly. it's very common that it is completely fine to kill a demon in one go though, but it depends on your surroundings and the demon

[astral hamlet]

what's artificial about them?
they're fast and hit hard, which is about the most organic difficulty imaginable

[gaunt smelt]

Lowk the dreadknights always come in when I get bigger fish to fry and they always finish me off when I forget about them for two seconds

[astral hamlet]

they essentially act like hell knights on steroids, because they're, well, hell knights on steroids

[gaunt smelt]

They got beef with me

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

[gaunt smelt]

Dreadknights got beef with me

[austere bronze]

the ballista mods are super goated!!

[last hornet]

I genuinely think that hell knights are harder lol

[tawdry vapor]

I hate dreadknights bro🫩🫩🫩

[last hornet]

Should i buy the dlcz?

Any new wepons?

[tawdry vapor]

Yes bro🥹🥹

[austere bronze]

arbalest is a plain solid mod, being great for flying enemies, and the destroyer blade is imo the second best mod in the game (behind the meathook)

[gaunt smelt]

They are, I just get cornered so damn easily

[austere bronze]

though the destroyer blade has a bit of a learning curve to it

[last hornet]

Wish i could only play the bosses then refund

[gaunt smelt]

And so waiting for them to charge up always gets me killed

[astral hamlet]

they do the same things, but dread knights do them better
hell knights are just less threatening in every way imaginable lol

[austere bronze]

there's nothing that could make hell knights harder
less threatening attacks, slower, less hp

[gaunt smelt]

Also lowkey idk the big difference between the two ballista mods other than one acts like the dreadknights blades and the other essentially does the same but doesn’t go through enemies and has a small hitbox

[fringe torrent]

On sale only

[gaunt smelt]

I got eternal deluxe when it was like $20

[fringe torrent]

Yeh that's how much one DLC costs off-sale

[austere bronze]

my reason for disliking them is that their waveblast attack is kinda broken, particularly on higher FPS it can go really fast, get into the air (despite being suppsed to be grounded), and get way too much tracking

[last hornet]

Ballista spam

[austere bronze]

it will also break you off your meathook and cancel dashes...

[gaunt smelt]

I keep missing with the ballista 😡

[austere bronze]

remote det is never luck based

[gaunt smelt]

I just have to ice bomb, frag, bp, hope and pray

[gaunt smelt]

Well you gotta hope that the tyrant doesn’t dash too far away from the rocket

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-obama-gif-15684252

[gaunt smelt]

And even then the remote det might be useless bc you might just straight up hit it with the bare rocket

[austere bronze]

genuinely, it objectively is a good mod, you can choose not to use it due to the learning curve being too steep or you just disliking it or anything, but you would be missing out

except if your only goal is to beat levels as fast as possible, then remote det is ballssss

[astral hamlet]

well, in terms of the falter it's not
but when you're relying on it for actual damage it kinda is

[gaunt smelt]

As someone who uses the rocket as heavy damages, I’m not missing out

My main goal is to blow up

[austere bronze]

as someone who's spent over 2k hours in the game, you are

[gaunt smelt]

I have like over 200

[last hornet]

Never ever tried mods🤷‍♂️ can you add new weapons with them?

[gaunt smelt]

I’m good enough to know my play style

[astral hamlet]

because the inner radius where it actually deals meaningful damage is so pathetically small that even slow AI can waddle out of range of the explosion by the time you detonate

but yeah, the falter AoE is huge

[austere bronze]

that's fairr, though i'd say that i only got done exploring playstyles at a bit over 1 thousand hours in the game, and i still haven't gotten as good as i'd like to with them

[gaunt smelt]

RD literally didn’t help me in Taras Nabad so it’s automatically useless ☺️

Jkjk

[gaunt smelt]

Well I would spend more time if I could

[astral hamlet]

should’ve left in remote det’s damage against marauders

[austere bronze]

and it isn't a case of being good or not anyways, and i don't think you want to make it one

[astral hamlet]

can’t believe id would do something like this

[austere bronze]

maan it would be dope if remote det was somewhat strong against marauders

[gaunt smelt]

When I was relatively new Taras Nabad was so difficult for me, but now it’s only like 4 levels that have any sort of difficulty

[gaunt smelt]

I honestly thought it did

It took me forever to get the Marauder down, and even now I still get unlucky, he loves dashing too close to me so he can shoot me from behind

[astral hamlet]

4 hardest levels in the main campaign are cultist base, arc complex, taras nabad, and final sin imo

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/0LCgcbnDPFQ?is=YQRdgYbOyLsxqddE

[astral hamlet]

assuming no superweapon usage for TN and final sin

[gaunt smelt]

Well I know it doesn’t I’m just saying I used to think it might’ve worked

[austere bronze]

ahh i see

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah it’s purely luck-based and timing-based for me,

[austere bronze]

it doesn't matter how much time you've spent in the game

[gaunt smelt]

That’s why it took 2 hours to get the last secret encounter in The Holt because I kept getting bad Marauder RNG

Like I could barely even take a shot because it kept dashing into me and shooting me

[austere bronze]

the marauder isn't only luck, there are ways you can guarantee green eye flashes, restrict his movement, get in free damage, or even bypass his green eye flashes

[gaunt smelt]

You can force the green eye move?

Bro how?

[astral hamlet]

lock on to him with lob and look up

[austere bronze]

if you let him throw his axe, then run at you, he's going to go in for a green eye flash every time

[astral hamlet]

yeah that too

[gaunt smelt]

So just back tf away at first?

[astral hamlet]

but geometry and enemy fire can screw you

[gaunt smelt]

And ofc take out the dog

[austere bronze]

also if you keep the correct distance, you can trigger multiple green eye flashes directly after eachother, though this isn't entirely consistent

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah I also can’t maintain his stunned state, it could be frame rate, but it feels so sluggish tryna do that, I’ve only been able to do it once

[austere bronze]

and he'll never dash across your crosshair, so if you keep it on his right/left side and flick it slightly to hit him during green eye flashes, you'll have removed 50% of his movement options

[gaunt smelt]

Plus it’s not as fun to instantly eliminate the Marauder. I like mine with a little resistance

[astral hamlet]

just start off with ssg, hit him when he flashes green, hold down the fire button, swap to ballista, then once you've hit him with the ballista, swap back to ssg
hold down fire the entire time

[austere bronze]

while he's changing elevation, he's also completely vulnerable to any damage, so you could lock-on burst him while he's jumping up a ledge

[gaunt smelt]

Oh hold it ok

[austere bronze]

bypassing his green eye flashes is a bit more complex though

[astral hamlet]

you can throw in a frag grenade as well, and that extra damage can semi-reliably allow you to kill him in 2 cycles

[gaunt smelt]

I know about the frag, that’s my go to

Unless you’re doing the Holt Gate

That’s a nightmare, I was stuck in that gate for over an hour

Possessed Marauder is the lowest circle of Hell, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy

[austere bronze]

biggest thing there is to not overcommit against the possessed marauder

if you make sure to back away in time, not focus on dealing damage when you shouldn't, properly restack in between dealing damage, and get into the air with the meathook a lot, you should be good there

though it's definitely easier said than done xd

[gaunt smelt]

Then again I also didn’t use air control rune during that run

[austere bronze]

that's kinda crazy

i'd just always keep that shit on me, unless you're experienced with grounded gameplay, then no air control can be fun to experiment with

but i always jusy play with it on, unless it's to challenge myself

[austere bronze]

didn't have time to respond to this earlier, but the goal of remote detonate is to utilize it for its falter
you can send out a rocket over crowds and detonate it, or detonate a rocket close to a demon that's about to attack, or use it to keep a group of demons bunched together, the creativity possible with the mod i find really fun

being able to detonate missed rockets for extra damage/potentially extra falter is just a bonus imo

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah it took me forever to realize why everyone was better at meathook than me

It was def the rune

[austere bronze]

hahah yeah no air control is really rough

[low bronze]

I never turn off air control

one of my mods is to always have air control on

[clear holly]

I made small run - tried to use different stuff on Easy to check how my opposite approach to gameplay for casual me look like.

Weapons:
Shotgun Full Auto: good damage, but bye-bye ammo. Only can be mastered, when Pinkies appear (Doom Hunter boss level). I remember using it long ago, but don't remember how effective is ammo restoration vs high tier enemies.
Assault Rifle Micro Missiles: weak damage, long cooldown. Sometimes miss target. It looks like even primary would be better at least at long distances. 🫤
Plasma Rifle Microwave Beam: interesting thing. Bye-bye ammo, but can pin and damage few enemies at once and blow weaker enemies quite fast. Not sure, if better than Heat Blast, but cool as a tool.
Rocket Launcher Remote Detonation: seems weak (is it weaker than normal shot - I don't know). I didn't upgrade it still, though.

Equipment:
Using Chainsaw more often seems like good idea and necessary with such approach for sure.
Ice Bomb is amazing when slightly upgraded. Need to use it more in normal runs.
Blood Punch - still forget to use it or use it on accident.

Runes:
Seek and Destroy - I guess, it's useful, but not very useful for me, same as 2016 analog.
Chrono Strike - forget to use it, but it's interesting. I tried to use it long ago, but had same issue, since extra thing to keep in mind.

Overall I was often out of ammo and used chainsaw constantly, but it's possible to play this way even though not very handy overall.

Thank you @ M1 for information - I guess, I'll use some of this stuff and would check later fully upgraded one.

[scenic axle]

You are missing out if you want to be able to get to the highest level of play, otherwise don’t worry about it, I don’t worry about it

[blazing warren]

[coarse summit]

How can I tel from the "items found" how many more I need per level easily?

like some are white, some are blue, some are green

[gaunt smelt]

If I swap the difficulty to do this arena and then swap back to Noghtmare before finishing the mission, do I still get the mikestone of having done the mission in Nightmare

[coarse summit]

#screenshots

[gaunt smelt]

I’d assume no, but idk

[gaunt smelt]

Ok so the ones with the green highlighted backdrops are stuff you’ve collected

[coarse summit]

Alright gthanks man

[gaunt smelt]

If the object is told, you’ve seen it without grabbing it

[coarse summit]

told? u mean white?

[gaunt smelt]

You’re only missing like one praetor suit point

[coarse summit]

OH I see

It was cause of where I was looking at it on the map that it looked weird

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah like the backdrop of the item

[coarse summit]

I see it now

[gaunt smelt]

It’s a little confusing tbf lol

[coarse summit]

🪴 little too much weed

i wish i knew the answer to your question homie

[gaunt smelt]

Little too much to drink personally lol

You’re good

I’m struggling on this last arena in Reclaimed Earth on Nightmare

[coarse summit]

I beat the doom eternal single player and then did the multiplayer achievements, then I got half way through dark ages but now im just having fun backtracking in eternal again

I only play ultra violence sorry

U are better than me

[gaunt smelt]

I’m a bit of a completionist so I can’t even play it like you

[gaunt smelt]

No I just grind at it until I get it lol

[coarse summit]

I go for perfect games too, I just have so many that I wittle down usually

[gaunt smelt]

UV is honestly the most fun difficulty

[coarse summit]

I think so too I tried the first level on nightmare didnt like it

I did some of the dlc too, those missions are way harder

Nice got all the stuff on that level now

[gaunt smelt]

Yeah especially the first part

What level is that one exactly

[coarse summit]

Doom hunter base is one of my favorite img gonna do super gore nest or wahtever now

I know thats the fan favorite

[gaunt smelt]

Personally not the biggest fan of SGN. My favorite is either Nekravol Part 1 or Sentinel Prime. I’m starting to really enjoy the gladiator fight honestly

[coarse summit]

that was a good fight

[steady forge]

guys is the game good?

i just got it

[low bronze]

I really like it

[thorny copper]

yes, but its heavy on mechanics and definitely more challenging than Doom 2016.

[wispy sigil]

Agree

[drowsy wedge]

i think the server dedicated to the game will tell you it is bad and to not play it

[steady forge]

i’m playing a modern version right now and it won’t goddamn load

[gaunt smelt]

Ok note to self before I legit end myself: changing the difficulty even for one second does not allow you to get the Nightmare completion milestone

There was no way I would’ve been able to do that entire bs arena all in Nightmare

[scenic axle]

None of the arenas in the DLC are bs, hard, definitely, unfair, no

[cloud kayak]

insanely good. maybe a bit hard at first (for me it was), but once you get the hang of it, it is very rewarding

guys how do i skip the intro video (of id software and other animations) on every boot? esc and stuff dont work and its annoying to wait for the videos to finish

[long nexus]

I will never try to attempt to get the multi-player trophies

[long nexus]

Which arena

[long nexus]

It's unavailable to skip

[cloud kayak]

damn

[austere bronze]

if you're playing from steam, type this into launch options:
+com_skipIntroVideo 1

[cloud kayak]

Microsoft store

[tiny beacon]

Ayo aint no way this server exists 🤩

Omggggg

[elder raft]

it sure does

[fiery dagger]

???

someone smite this man

[elder raft]

they did. that demon is no more

[tiny beacon]

What does that mean

[tight star]

привет я здесь единственный Русский

[fiery dagger]

banish them from living

[tiny beacon]

Damm 🙁

[fringe torrent]

Too much animation work for something most players won't even care about

I didn't even notice they're gone until my third playthrough of the games

[fiery dagger]

the odds of u being able to even pull one off in eternal is too unlikey to even add it

it would be a waste of time for like 1/200 glory kills to be a wall one

same with death animations tbh most of the time ur in the air so they wouldnt even be able to play

@jagged cedar i see you

[fringe pendant]

I am looking for people to help me unlock the Steam achievements of Doom Eternal in Battlemode.

[cloud kayak]

me too, but im a noob at it

[fringe pendant]

np these are just for the achievements

add me

[sinful cove]

Y’all give me like some tips to beat the dark lord I’m actually about to Crash tf out

[azure oriole]

Stay in mid-range and don’t stop moving. When Davoth flashes green, shoot him with either the Super a shotgun or Ballista (they are the most ideal to stun him), and use the Sentinel Hammer to faze him further. And while he is dazed, fuck him up.

I recommend Changun Energy Shield to protect yourself from his projectiles.

What is most frustrating for you, @sinful cove ?

[gaunt smelt]

Bro I got sniped outta nowhere from a Baron that wasn’t even locked onto me

[gaunt smelt]

The last arena of Reclaimed Earth

[long nexus]

use the shield to also block his shield charge attack

[long nexus]

eh it shouldn't be that difficult

[gaunt smelt]

Went at it for like 2 hours yesterday and genuinely kept getting either cornered ran out of ammo at the worst moments or got sniped outta now where

[long nexus]

which enemy do you struggle with the most

is it the possessed

also do you use plasma rifle heat blast
it does a lot of damage too

[gaunt smelt]

Not a lot. I hardly use the plasma rifle because I like saving cells for easy ballista shots

[gaunt smelt]

I’m not sure if I struggle with one particular enemy but the barons are a massive hassle

[long nexus]

I don't mainly use the ballista in my rotations, only sometimes

[austere bronze]

you should probably use it more, it's imo the best weapon in the game

[gaunt smelt]

It’s kinda my fault because I also tend to not have the best aim (partly because I play on console) and so I miss a few shots anyways

[wide field]

The marauder is a fun challenge and nobody can change my mind

[fringe torrent]

It's true

[wide field]

I usually use the ballista for ssg>ballista>pbolt cycles

[wide field]

If somebody doesn't like the marauder, I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just saying they're bad.

[storm eagle]

That's rude and incorrect

[wide field]

It's mainly a joke

You can dislike whatever you want.
I hate doom 2's archvile.
I still love the challenge

[real holly]

yesss

[real holly]

these types of jokes make people dislike Eternal fans more

[wide field]

Yeah you're right

On an unrelated note once somebody sent me a 5 page essay on "why autism makes you less than human"
Haha that was funny

https://tenor.com/view/duke-nukem-duke-nukem-forever-duke-nukem-meme-duke-nukem-not-reading-too-long-dont-read-gif-17171040675104568396

[queen orchid]

You might even say subhuman

[real holly]

are there any weapons in Eternal you can outright ignore the pickup from outside of the Plasma rifle

even though it's given to u on Mars Core anyways

[austere bronze]

think you're given them the next level if you don't pick them up

[twin umbra]

everybody are gansters until they play the randomizer unbalanced version

[storm eagle]

Talk about this in the #general chat and not the Eternal chat

[spare marsh]

Stick to channel topics please, don't spam

[long nexus]

I do Ssg pb and pb rocket mostly

[long nexus]

Oh yeah I should try that

[twin umbra]

good luck
i guess (?

[austere bronze]

randomizers are peak

[clear holly]

I may speculate game crashes often because of launcher, since both launcher and game stop to work and terminate themselves as process.

[tiny beacon]

Guys what is the best weapon for me to use while progressing?

Btw anywone wanna be my friend? :]

Im even play rn lol 😂

[clear holly]

Any weapon, which fits you well. Also it's more about weapon mods and switching between weapons/mods rather than using 1 weapon.

[wide field]

When I wanna flex i go ssg>pb>rocket>ballista>stistikybomb

[muted ermine]

I beat the icon of sin without sentinel armor

[zinc blade]

Is it still possible to do the slob method espeically on Marauder

where its pb rocket rocket lock on

for me it locks on too slow

[scenic axle]

Yes you can, if it's not locking on fast enough you probably aren't slobing properly

[zinc blade]

I see thank you

[gaunt smelt]

It’s not really challenging or particularly fun. What’s fun is them being smoothly integrated, like in Taras Nabad

[wide field]

I find it fun either way

I especially loved the Super Gore Nest master level on classic mode so I had to fight a marauder using only stickybombs

[gaunt smelt]

I would’ve liked to do it if my game didn’t bug out that one time

One time my game bugged out and didn’t spawn in one of the archviles so I couldn’t advance, and kept getting attacked by an endless horde of Imps

It was right before the double marauder encounter too, and that’s one of my favorite parts of that master level

I do not generally like that one either way

[wide field]

I love the super gore nest master level

The... 4 tyrants at once?

So fun for me

[gaunt smelt]

I don’t remember 4 tyrants 😅 what I remember is the cramped tyrant at the start and the blind marauder and whiplash encounter

[coarse summit]

I got a question in #screenshots if anyone knows the anwer, thank you

[quiet cloud]

the encounter at the end ?

ye thats peak

[clear holly]

Yes. you need batteries.

[wide field]

I loved killing a tyrant with only stickybombs

At the beginning

[quiet cloud]

never thought i would meet a guy who likes classic mode

anyway which difficulty

nm?

[coarse flint]

i just got doom and im having this problem where it crashes when i get achievments or randomly has problems with cloud syncing (i bought it on epic games launcher)

[rigid zealot]

He is easy

[quiet crypt]

Easy but also one of the worst boss fights in doom

[rigid zealot]

Like “disappointing”?

[rigid zealot]

I kinda agree with it

[quiet crypt]

It's just not fun, wailing on the Icon's armor while ads keep spawning endlessly, the funnest part was killing the ads with the crucible / bloodpunch charges.

[rigid zealot]

Well at least fight with marauder and dark lord is not worst😃

[austere bronze]

nah dark lord is definitely worse than icon of sin

[quiet crypt]

Marauders are light work, good challenge when there's other enemies along with the marauder.

[rigid zealot]

Whyyy

[rigid zealot]

But would be better if dark lord fought without armour

Big ass armour

[austere bronze]

cause the dark lord is really bad😭

[rigid zealot]

😂😭naahh he is good

[austere bronze]

his moveset is lacking and rudimentary, without an interesting context. the flat arena makes movement and spatial awareness less important and much easier, enemy threat management doesn't exist as he's the only thing you're fighting. there's minimal creativity in approach (only creativity comes from how you DPS him), and then it's just a waiting game based on luck

[rigid zealot]

He kinda is easy, but fair enough

Would be interesting to fight him if his half of power didnt got taken

[austere bronze]

him being easy only makes it worse if anything

it's the final boss to the final dlc

[rigid zealot]

Marauder is easy too, but two marauders were nightmare

[austere bronze]

all normal enemies are easy

[rigid zealot]

Who is hard for you

[austere bronze]

or, at least they become at some point

if enemies were hard on their own, id wouldn't be able to create complex encounters with many different demons

[austere bronze]

no demon in isolation is hard to me, but there are some which are much more threatening

[rigid zealot]

Ahhh, i remember that demon, who makes all demons stronger

And is protected with orange stuff in front of him

[austere bronze]

the archvile

[rigid zealot]

He was pmo

[rigid zealot]

He was hardest even in easy mode

[rigid zealot]

I even called my brother to help me, he kept losing too hahaha

[drowsy wedge]

frost bomb and 2 LOBs gg

[snow cloud]

Hello guys, someone can help me for the online trophees on doom eternal ? I play on ps5

[muted ermine]

Not on ultra nightmare?

[real holly]

Archvilles hate this secret technique!

this combo is so busted against them I'm happier when there's two archvilles so I instead am forced to first use ice bomb+lob on the first one and then double nade+lob

[rigid zealot]

On ultraviolence

I havent started ultra nightmare yet

[muted ermine]

Ah

Yea he's like easily 2x harder

Than on ultra vio

[austere bronze]

difficulty is kinda irrelevant

because if 2 people struggle the same amount on 2 different difficulties, they'll both find the boss easy/hard

[cloud kayak]

guys, is it not possible for microsoft store guys to play battlemode with steam guys?

[clear holly]

And PC just froze, when I switched to Ballista with RT skin in Super Gore Nest. 🤦‍♂️ Just wow how stability degraded for me this time.

[fringe pendant]

Hi, we're looking for a last player on Steam to help us complete the achievements in Doom Eternal.

[carmine leaf]

Hi, I'm looking for two people from PlayStation who need to boost the 200 kills in BATTLEMODE, is there anyone who is interested in helping me or in any case needs this trophy

[snow cloud]

I'm interested because I still have the online trophies to do. I’m also on ps5

[nova jay]

Hello

[wooden relic]

hellow there !!!

Doom in my head !!!

[gentle shale]

Helloinggg

How do people spam weapons so quickly? Especially the sticky bombs and the rocket launcher?

[austere bronze]

for weapons beside the rocket launcher and combat shotgun, it's just about finding the rhythm/timing

you can fire before a weapon is fully brought up though

[austere bronze]

for the rl/csg, you gotta fire a pb (precision bolt) shot beforehand if you want the swaps to be fast, but the timing becomes much harder, especially for the combat shotgun

[gentle shale]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-that-down-gif-27686706

[gentle shale]

Ahhh makes sense, thank youu. Also hello M1!!!! <D

[austere bronze]

HAI Kayl0r!!

[gentle shale]

How you been?

[austere bronze]

absolutely great, i think
been playing alotta eternal xd

youu?

[gentle shale]

I've been good too!! Played a bit of eternal earlier today and practiced for the world spear master level on PC lol

After hyperfixating on Stardew Valley too

[austere bronze]

wait you weren't always on pc, right? or am i misremembering

[gentle shale]

Nope, I was on console. I finally got a good laptop to run Eternal properly

And I could also play Dark Ages lol

[austere bronze]

oo nice!

[gentle shale]

Yaaaa :D I've already beaten all of Eternal on nightmare lol

Just world spear master level to beat again on nightmare...

I've beaten it on console tho

[austere bronze]

then you definitely got this!

[gentle shale]

Thank yee :D

[ivory leaf]

Just got the golden SSG skin

[real holly]

Holy shit I tried Mars Core ML un and i actually got through it on the third try

ima be 100 i WILL use the bfg on master levels (always be sure to have 2 ammo left doe) cause of how long they are

[still apex]

Where can i ask questions with a ss

i cant figure out how to get past a gate

[storm eagle]

#screenshots

[coarse summit]

I was like done with cultist base to get collectables, I saved at the slayer gate I thought... to finish later but when I log on my game is at fortress of doom again 🙁

I am going to guess mission select isn't actually going to save prog towards finishing the level but counts the collectables

[atomic prairie]

Would anyone be willing to help me get the online achievements for the game so I can finally platinum it? (PC)

[clear holly]

I decided to check and turns out at least first 3 levels you can ignore Assault and Plasma Rifles.
Thank you so much! I decided to make minimalistic run and turns out:

Required:

• Chainsaw.
• Rocket Launcher.
• Super Shotgun.
• Frag grenade.
• Ice bomb.
• Flame Belch.
• 1 Crystal upgrade (I put it in ammo).
• 1 Mod Bot (Sticky Bombs).
• 1 Praetor Coin (not required to be used).

Not required:

• Assault Rifle.
• Plasma Rifle.
• A lot of encounters can be skipped in 1st 3 levels without glitches.
• Rest of pickups/upgrades aren't needed (outside of level progression one).

I assume:

• Plasma Rifle, Ballista and BFG would be required.
• Assault Rifle and Chanigun maybe can be skipped.

I had a blast - levels feel much faster, if not to pickup everything and fight each enemy. 😅

[coarse summit]

What ones do you need? Message me sometime

[wide oxide]

Can anyone help me? im trying to play the game but once i load it up all audio on my computer STOPS, Spotify stops, Doom Eternal STOPS, idk how to fix this, the audio disappears as soon as it says "Click to enter"

Im playing off the Microsoft store if that helps anything since thats where i have it

nvm fixed it

[atomic prairie]

Sent you a dm!

[wide field]

Good for you

[twin umbra]

why the hell everytime i press a keyboard my game crash on the main menu 🫠

[low bronze]

I finally played horde mode again.

got a score of 157250 on easy. Not too bad for not playing it in forever.

gonna try again tomorrow to get higher. I'm not playing with mods this time since the launcher is shit so i gotta make some headway on the campaign.

got a new poduim i didn't have on my main game on the ps5 so thats cool

[low bronze]

anytips for getting a higher score?

[fringe pendant]

Hi, we're looking for a last player on Steam to help us complete the achievements in Doom Eternal.

[quiet cloud]

dont use bfg
play on nm
collect all extra lives and dont use them (use the steal back rune if ur having problems)

[queen orchid]

Fancy seeing you here

[real holly]

bro tf u mean the double Marauder arena can be ignored in Mars Core ML if you just dont kill the Cyber Mancubus (it causes the second Marauder to spawn if you kill it)

[quiet cloud]

lmao

ive been here for a long time

[real holly]

optional double marauder arena in a ML is crazy work

[quiet cloud]

its easy af to one cycle marauders at this point
double marauders doesnt make that much of a dif

[wide comet]

Started my fourth run of Doom Eternal, haven’t played since 2022. This game is still a blast!

IMO the first slayer gate is the hardest one on nightmare. The lack of tools made it so hectic and challenging

[clear holly]

Yeah, I also struggled with 1st Slayer's Gate. Then I restrarted game and put starting upgrades in a bit different way and started to move around arena more, instead of camping in a corner and it become better.

[austere bronze]

it's not easy to one cycle them, but it's not super hard either

[real holly]

double marauders by themselves are simple, it's when their paired up with heavies in not big arenas that's when shit gets funky

like the donut arena in Taras Nabad with endlessly regenerating prowlers and double Marauder, or the Mars Core arena with (optional) double marauders and every heavy demon ever at the same time

[gaunt smelt]

Not when your game runs at like 45 fps

[atomic prairie]

I can help if you still need one

[fringe pendant]

i add you

[quiet cloud]

i got a lot of prac in kaiser campaign so am pretty decent at doing that

[quiet cloud]

fairs

[quiet cloud]

i found that easy cause the prowlers are just free armour and health

[real holly]

im the weirdo that likes that arena, it's bs but not impossible

the only arena of taras nabad i hate but everyone likes is the buff totem coin room

[quiet cloud]

ur not a weirdo for liking it

its a decent arena

[quiet cloud]

i just use the crucible in that room lmfao

[real holly]

i use the BFG

not dealing with the bs

[quiet cloud]

i mean its just valid for that arena

[real holly]

Master levels, final sin and the holt are levels I don't mind using the bfg on cause the fact they don't kill arenas but just help them which is rare, master levels are so long I don't mind using bfg sparingly

final sin is the only main campaign level i use the bfg on due to the fact that like, if im using it for the Icon of Sin, might as well use it on the stage cause the arenas are just flat with two floors and enemy spam

it's a fine level but the bfg makes it more digestible

[quiet cloud]

i lwk have never use bfg not even in mars core master level
not even in the encounter right after u get the bfg

[real holly]

the holt is a 50/50, depends on how im feeling if i want to speed up the possesed tyrant/pain elemental kill

[real holly]

u playing on nightmare like me?

[quiet cloud]

ofc

ultra nm actually

i havent played the master levels in a while tho kinda focusing on kaiser campaign at the moment

[austere bronze]

that doesn't mean it's an easy thing to do though

[quiet cloud]

i mean i found it rly easy

[austere bronze]

still doesn't mean it's easy

[quiet cloud]

i taught it to a couple of my frnds and they got the hang of it rly quick

[austere bronze]

even with the simplest one cycle (using slob+grenade(s)), it requires a decent amount of mechanical skills

you need to be able to do pb rocket, and then have the correct mouse presses to activate fast lock-on, and then throw frags in there too

[quiet cloud]

ngl i find the lock on cycle easier

i mean its just my perspective and i have like 4k hours in eternal so myb thats showing smth

[real holly]

same, i like no deaths runs

[quiet cloud]

K

[real holly]

🇰

[austere bronze]

yeah that definitely has an impact😭 4k hours is crazy

goat

[austere bronze]

until they teleport into some bullshittery position and get you..

[quiet cloud]

lmfao true

[quiet cloud]

lmao ye its my most grinded game aside from sekiro

[austere bronze]

you got like twice mt playtime xdd

[quiet cloud]

ye well play time doesnt rly matter

i havent played in like 4 yrs so am pretty trash rn

[hollow cypress]

shoots with ballista once, auto stuns into glory kill
profit

and even better if you meat hook and shoot them straight up it just kills

[halcyon bramble]

anybody grinding multiplayer achievements rn?

[olive idol]

i could hop on, just got the game

[halcyon bramble]

that would be awesome!

[olive idol]

alrightyyyy, no idea what to do tho so pls be nice lol

[halcyon bramble]

ofc bro i just started too

[sweet portal]

Best game in the franchise besides the og

[low bronze]

I ran another horde mode run but on the next difficultly

SO CLOSE to the slayer tier

[compact gazelle]

hey all, anyone know how to make the ballista beam green, ive been looking all over. cant find toms green beam mod. ive stumbled upon rune scared(green) but still havent been able to change the beam. and i know it is possible. is there anyone who can offer some help on this?

[olive idol]

Am I silly or isn't it green by default

[compact gazelle]

wait a min

not on mine

[olive idol]

Maybe u modded it accidentally

Like maybe its part of a bigger modpack

[compact gazelle]

google keeps giving contradictory responses lol

[olive idol]

L google

I could be very wrong

It might be red

[compact gazelle]

im bad with social jargon online, L as in what? like L-<amino acids> jk ok and u mean look

[olive idol]

L kinda means like its lame or its subpar

[compact gazelle]

ohhh okay

[olive idol]

Although the root of the slang is loss

"Take the L" = "take the loss"

[compact gazelle]

urban dictionary etymology, i love it lol nd gotcha

[olive idol]

Might also just be a weapon skin

[compact gazelle]

its like a mini bfg i just wanted a green beam haha

[olive idol]

Im not entirely sure the full mechanics of the game yet

I found this online:
"To make the Ballista in DOOM Eternal shoot green projectiles, you must equip the Arbalest mod.
How to get it: The Arbalest mod compresses the Ballista’s shot into a single, high-damage explosive green bolt, rather than the default twin-beam blue laser.
Alternative: The default, un-modded ballista and certain cosmetic skins can have a greenish hue, but the charged explosive bolt is specific to the Arbalest mod. "

I have not check the accuracy but maybe this can help

[compact gazelle]

the blades gotta be green but thank you it does help. every little piece of info does.

[austere bronze]

you want a mod to change the weapon's fx?

[olive idol]

Yeah probably the best option

[compact gazelle]

u read my mind

[austere bronze]

complete colour library on nexus mods is awesome for that

it gives you like 10 different colours to choose from for each weapon

[austere bronze]

though you need to run the eternal mod injector to use that mod, and not just the new mod portal

[compact gazelle]

i gota the accounts and injectors set up, imma send a dm and make sure i got the right one

[calm folio]

Are you the Scooby Slayer

The one that strikes fear into the Scooby snacks

[untold ravine]

Reclaimed earth ost is FIRE

Underrated ash

[low bronze]

i love reclaimed earth

[untold ravine]

Same

[low bronze]

brutlist design with overgrown plants and vines are so good

[untold ravine]

I like the map design but i love the ost the most

I even got the best part (imo) looped

[low bronze]

Oh the ost is really good

[untold ravine]

If you want it i can send you it

[low bronze]

sure!

[olive idol]

Doesnt VEGA help the slayer? 😭

[untold ravine]

Dms, i cant send links and stuff here

[olive idol]

How the turn tables

[untold ravine]

The chairs turned instead of the tables

[calm folio]

[twin umbra]

does anybody want to play battlemode just for the achivements ?
i only requer the bloodbath and the slayer arsenal achivements (also the healing thing) 🫠

[compact gazelle]

yes thats meee 😄

[compact gazelle]

everything works great thank you 😄

[calm folio]

So tuff

[compact gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-smiles-laughing-gif-9761868593119391505

[keen hawk]

GM chat, how you doin?

I just beated doom eternal

[lunar fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[low bronze]

lets go

[quiet cloud]

Bro I alr know ts
I've been playing the game for a long time

[fringe torrent]

He wasn't trying to teach you shit my man

[random remnant]

bros old

[quiet cloud]

Am not even 30 lmao

[random remnant]

im just playing dawg lol

[quiet cloud]

Ye me too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1378678868986298489.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=party

[random remnant]

so what got yall into playing

[quiet cloud]

I had nth to do in my final year of college and I liked 2016

[random remnant]

i just seen people play it so i thought id check it out myself

[quiet cloud]

Ye I didn't think I would spend more than 4k hours in eternal

[random remnant]

im just starting

[quiet cloud]

Gl
Ur gonna enjoy ur gameplay

[exotic oracle]

yea same

[random remnant]

where are you at

[exotic oracle]

idk at some spinner with that slime and some of those rocket guys

[random remnant]

same

[exotic oracle]

ha lol

[random remnant]

wish doom was co-op

that would be dope

[exotic oracle]

yeaaa that would b esick

be

[random remnant]

modders need to do that

[exotic oracle]

ye

[austere bronze]

there is a modded co-op mode

[random remnant]

ph fr

[quiet cloud]

They alr did that yk

[random remnant]

i need to find it

[real holly]

okay did mars core ml on un again

this might actually be my favourite master level ngl

it doesnt pull off that buff totem bs that the other 2 main campain ones ocasionally do that pisses me off cause i just dont enjoy fighting buffed demons

[fiery dagger]

have u played taras nabad yet?

good lord

[formal glen]

Does anyone else's game crash upon loading the modded version?

[candid dawn]

My pc struggles to play the regular version as is but the modded version just doesn't work at all

[formal glen]

I haven't had this issue before

Now after 3 weeks of not playing it just wont work at all

[clear holly]

If you use ModIjnector - it was updated recently for new update.
Works fine for me, but both vanilla and modded (ModInjector) games crash for me periodically after some time, I assume because of launcher
But 2 days ago, didn't have crashes by launching modded without starting game through launcher (ModInjector auto launched launcher and game without pressing "play" in launcher).

[real holly]

i hate that one lowk

un experience months ago was agonizing

[slate sierra]

Yo guys, can you guys help me? My controller keeps on bugging out when a battle starts.

Like when I try to jump, dash, change weapons, it like, there's a delay.

[fiery dagger]

that room is genuinally a joke

"that" room

[gentle geyser]

just hopped in chat but im just gonna assume we're talking about the ml taras nabad coin room lmfao

[drowsy wedge]

of course

[fiery dagger]

not that one

the double archvile room

i mean the coin room is still disgusting

[real holly]

the double archville room is fine

[calm folio]

Just beat doom eternal like 15 mins ago

[charred flint]

I just got the unmakyr with BFG division playing in the background, so peak

[fringe pendant]

Hi, we're looking for a last player on Steam to help us complete the achievements in Doom Eternal.

[gaunt smelt]

Lowk Taras Nabad is one my favorites

[low bronze]

does anyone else's game keep disconnecting from bethesda.net so you don't end up getting rewards? I'm on a LONG grind for a skin I want and it keeps doing it

[low bronze]

what do i do? I want to get this skin really bad and Its super far in the pass.

should i just completely removed the mod launcher? I'm playing vanilla btw

[untold ravine]

Guys im gonna do the achievement with one sentinel crystal and one suit upgrade

Which crystal and which upgrade should i get

[low bronze]

maybe flame blech cool down

or ice bomb

[low bronze]

ok i think i know the issue

so like if i want to get further in the season pass quicker, what should i do

[graceful carbon]

Tbh i just grind levels

Im lvl 46 rn

If anyone is on pc btw they should play the randomiser mod

Its really fun

https://youtu.be/lsh4jXCSHOo?si=dTmUXsae56Q33ghP

[low bronze]

Like on the main consle i played on for a bit before getting my own i was 150 something lvl

[graceful carbon]

Kk

[low bronze]

I wish i could transfer my stuff from the console to pc

i miss my skins

[copper karma]

anyone know what the new update is about ?

[supple hill]

what update?

oh wait this is eternal

[rigid cedar]

God dammit I should've gotten a ps5 to play this thing on

My mom gave me a choice when I was in 8th grade like 4 years ago when I had a good grade between switch and ps fuckin 5

Goddammit kid

[drowsy wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

your mom while giving you that choice

[arctic schooner]

anyone around?

need help plz

[jagged wind]

Help with what dawg?

[untold ravine]

Can someone help

[fiery dagger]

i just found out how to play doom eternal mobile and the controls cant be any worse

tbf its a phone

[jagged wind]

Whats the options?

[untold ravine]

There's a lot, for sentinel crystals there are health, armor and ammo

For the suit there's like 20 or something

[fiery dagger]

health
armour
ammo
health
health
health
ammo
armour
ammo
armor

the perk it gives dosnt matter tbh

they are all equalish

[clear holly]

I'm not sure about achievement, but I go this way to upgrade:

1. Crystals for Health/Armor/Ammo
   I prefer: Quickdraw Belch -> Loot Magnet -> Belch Armor Boost -> Napalm Belch -> both upgrades for Blood Punch (but, since I barely use it I prefer to keep health/armor on a map as much as possible, so may even get only 1 upgrade from each not to activate it). Health and then armor are my first 2 preferable upgrade for Nightmare.

2. Suit upgrades solely depend from what you want:
   If you are not very good with map - map one maybe should be priority, since in this case you would upgrade faster without replaying levels.
   Next one is probably speed related one or if you don't need map one - go for speed one first. Shorter recharge for dash for sure - rest depends from your playstyle.
   Rest are quite optional.
   I personally prefer frag grenades next, but in my last playthrough decided to use Ice Bombs more.
   Environmental upgrades are quite niche, in my opinion. So if you good with exploration and avoiding damage from hazards - map and environment probably should be last upgrades.

[vocal summit]

Looking for 2 people to help boost battle mode kills

[coarse summit]

Do enemies like tyrants have weak point anywhere if im just spraying them with chain gun

[astral hamlet]

the only enemies with weak points are revenants, mancs, and arachnotrons
plus cacos if you consider the sticky bomb/frag grenade in the mouth as a weak point

[coarse summit]

but even the mancs, it dont matter if u hit them in the stomach or head after the guns are gone

Just playing horde mode and was wondering

[astral hamlet]

it doesn't really matter

[coarse summit]

Can i only hit spirit with the plasma wave thing? i didnt get that weapon yet

[astral hamlet]

yes

[coarse summit]

word im sure ill get it in a moment then

[astral hamlet]

if you don't have the plasma rifle yet you've kinda just gotta kill the demons the spirit is trying to possess

[coarse summit]

this battle mode is interesting, i could have seen it being cool if you could customize it like dark age ripatorium

i mean horde mode

[astral hamlet]

if only horde mode spawns weren't completely set

should've randomized the enemies instead of the weapons

[patent stream]

Continuing my replay of eternal and it’s def faster than I remember

[coarse summit]

i dont like these gold shield dudes

[astral hamlet]

shoot a rocket next to their feet

[patent stream]

Combat shotgun sticky grenade spam works too

[astral hamlet]

yeah, just don't bother with remote det

[coarse summit]

my game just crashed on mission 3...

i was messing the angels up so bad wtf

at least it was prog saved and i wasnt far into it

[faint smelt]

Is super shotgun + ballista better or ballista + precision bolt?

[elder raft]

can use all 3. super shotgun + precision bolt + ballista. not only does this decrease the weapon switch time if you quick scope, it also gives extra damage

[faint smelt]

Alright, thanks!

[queen pilot]

Anybody up for battlemode?

[wide field]

Damn I wish my PC was up so I actually could because I have never played battlemode

[rotund veldt]

i hope there's a update

[twin umbra]

for getting the achievements ?

[real holly]

okay beat Mars Core UN for the third time in the past two days, definitely my favorite Master level now

[lilac hearth]

[low bronze]

I just had a marauder hide behind a wall and jump out and attack me.

I'm in tarads nabad and I'm this pillar, like out of his reach.

And after a bit he like, started walking up the stairs and disappeared. I got worried I had broken the game because the hell barrier was still up.

So I jumped down and walk to the barrier

He fucking comes out from around the wall on the inside and smacks me dead in the face with his axe.

I've never been jumpscared in eternal like that before.

[twin umbra]

and me who passed right now Mars Core UN because i procastinated

[fringe pendant]

Hi, we're looking for a last player on Steam to help us complete the achievements in Doom Eternal.

[twin umbra]

still looking ?

[real holly]

okay i finally did World Spear Master Level on UN

that sucked, I'm not fond of the hammer and it was just, TOO LONG. I forgive you Taras Nabad ML I didn't know what long level meant

once i finished it on UN I remembered why I didn't care enough to beat this level on UN before, it's too long and it has the Hammer which I don't like

[low bronze]

anyone know how long this current pass is going on for

[queen pilot]

Yes

[delicate marten]

Just beat UN

[sour arch]

Yo guys is super shotgun + combat shotgun with sticky bomb mod + rocket launcher a good combo?

[drowsy wedge]

ssg + pb + RL is better

[sand basin]

even beating it on Hurt Me plenty was tough as nails for me. it just never ended lol. like I was caught in a time-dillated limbo

[real holly]

that's a good way to describe it lol

time-dullated limbo

[still roost]

Alguien para hacer misiones en el modo online de doom eternal?

[fiery dagger]

it takes like 50 mins to beat it UN

theres so many arenas

[real holly]

I think Master levels really don't need to pad some arenas like they do

like, it's always a case of "final wave or final waves are the interesting ones" while the buildup waves just kind of waste time

i understand like the final arena of the level for sure, but sometimes I'm legitimately wondering why we're wasting our time with easy encounter's to build up to the big ones

like the levels already long, don't pad it out with buildup

[formal glen]

I know fast reply but I just use the official mod launcher

[real holly]

examples in Mars Core;
Revenant and Pinky/Bloodpunch charge spam arena: Good, it's unique and really pushes what Pinky's can do when u put em all together, and the revenants keep you on your toes slightly outside of the pinkies. This is the first fight in this arena and it's baller.
Arachnotron spam arena before double archvilles: Lame, it's not special and it just feels like wasting time before the actual interesting things come up.

[zealous path]

Hello

[clear holly]

It seems it crashes for me regardless of anything. I blame launcher, since even it crashes without game being launched.