doom-eternal

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

you can't punch swap dblades and fire 10 dblades in 3 seconds

you can only do it insofar as punch BATS with arbalest will cancel the base fire cooldown

[formal glen]

can you skip the animation to change weapon mods with a punch

[austere bronze]

kinda cool actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3GSIZ_gk3s

first is just a demonstration of the normal cooldown after an arbalest shot

[austere bronze]

yes

[astral hamlet]

imagine the absolute abuse that would ensue

[austere bronze]

it doesn't drastically reduce the time it takes, but it does kinda cancel it

[astral hamlet]

just spamming single charge d blades

[austere bronze]

use silent BATS, silent mod swap, or swapping mods with the weapon wheel if you wanna skip the animation entirely

but the weapon wheel should only be used if you already use the weapon wheel normally

[austere bronze]

lmao

[austere bronze]

and this is extra cool because it applies the BATS effect

[formal glen]

bats

[austere bronze]

ye?

[formal glen]

I dont know bats

[austere bronze]

BATS stands for bring-up animation transfer switching, and it allows you to transfer the bring-up speed of one weapon to another, can be done in multiple ways and one of them being mod swap cancelling (press mod swap, immediately switch to another weapon to cancel to the bring-down of a weapon, if done incorrectly you'll see a normal mod swap)

silent mod swapping is when you swap, immediately press mod swap, this will change the mod in the first weapon without any animation if done correctly, if done incorrectly you'll do a manual swap in the second

silent BATS combines mod swap cancelling and silent mod swapping, so the inputs are: mod swap, swap weapon, mod swap
and it just does what both of them does but at the same time

silent BATS is most likely needlessly advanced so i'd stick to silent mod swapping

and there's a decent bit to mention about silent BATS too

[formal glen]

you have a talent at making everything sound more complicated than it is 🎉

[austere bronze]

this is complicated stuff😭

there's not really any way to simplify it further

[formal glen]

IT STILL SO UNDS WORSE THAN IT IS!

[civic pivot]

im done with this shit multiplayer is there a mod for ts

[formal glen]

no

[civic pivot]

🙏

[formal glen]

I also need to grind them, I got 2 people but with one of them the timezones dont match up well

[civic pivot]

i can do it w u

[formal glen]

what time is it for you rn

[civic pivot]

9:45 pm

[formal glen]

so one hour later than me

ok

[austere bronze]

howw😭

[civic pivot]

really it takes like 2 hours to get it done

[formal glen]

wait

I pinged the other guy now, maybe he'll answer

[civic pivot]

which achievements u still need

[formal glen]

all of them

:D

[civic pivot]

i only got the 5 demons and 5000 dmg as demon done 🙁

[formal glen]

aa

wait

are you on steam..

[civic pivot]

uh yeah

fuck

you're on console im guessing

[formal glen]

so you are?

[civic pivot]

yeah im on steam

[formal glen]

lets goo

[civic pivot]

you got me shitting bricks dont do that again

[formal glen]

maybe

depends if the guy answers or not

[gusty trench]

Noice

[true fog]

Can anyone help me with doom multiplayer?

[inland mica]

I can

[true fog]

Are you on console

[gusty trench]

I'm on console

[scenic axle]

If you ballista boost and yeethook you can outrun them

Don’t ever just normal run and dash especially in battle mode

[civic pivot]

i got the achievements im never touching battlemode again

[iron marten]

I like battlemode

I play that gamemode a lot for fun

[tender otter]

Wanna play for fun then ?

[formal glen]

you also left us 🔥

[storm timber]

i need a mod or a way to make it so commands like g_weaponkick 0 is auotmiacily loaded when i play

[amber igloo]

ollo guys

right now, are any two dudes willing to play with me the battlemode?

my username is Papuphobos

on xbox

also to add as friends or smth

[iron marten]

im busy at school for the whole week srry i cant 😭

[amber igloo]

anyone gng?

[ripe sierra]

i js finished tag2

dark lord boss fight is the worst in the whole game

[amber igloo]

yes it is

[astral hamlet]

yep

[ripe sierra]

so its nothing but stay exactly at one certain place away from him. SSG when he flashes green, hammer and spam dmg combos. Also he heals if u shoot his shield. Nothing special. Plus he never attacks

and its all that for 5 phases

i did nothing but sgg ballista the whole time while shooting the fodder twice for the glory kill

never thought id play a doom boss where i do the same thing for 15 minutes straight

[amber igloo]

I also didn't enjoyed one bit the Samur makyrs fight

it was just had and not fun

hard*

[shadow ibex]

yay i got all rewards and milestones in horde mode🎊 🥳

[scenic axle]

I found the challenge fun

[ripe sierra]

how do i get the secret encounter in blood swamps

i searched it up on yt but im blocked from using the path?

[amber igloo]

@ripe sierra try just going to the menu and then back to the game

it should let you just pass through it

[ripe sierra]

nvm it worked

thanks

[pearl pollen]

its sad cuz they only had a few months to make tag2, i would’ve loved to see how they would do it truly

[timber cipher]

Guys what's one issue with doom eternals gameplay you have

[pearl pollen]

id say this fight isn’t too bad since if you enjoy challenge its definitely there

[timber cipher]

Outside the story and shit cuz that's lame to complain about

[pearl pollen]

the weapon mods have whack balancing

im not sure if they intended you to only use one or both, or for each situation

[timber cipher]

For me it's the chainsaw kill animation time

Its just so long

I dont wanna be slowed down in a doom game

[pearl pollen]

full auto sucks unless its mastery and you master it skill wise, microwave beam sucks unless you have crazy maneuvering, energy shield is broken op, while mobile turret is dogshit

[timber cipher]

Agreed

[pearl pollen]

the unmayker is the coolest weapon in the game but it shares ammo with the bfg so it sucks

the sentinel hammer they have no clue how to balance (even if it is awesome)

[candid dawn]

I think this is part of why I like dark ages so much, cause you can get ammo back so quickly with melee attacks now, it flows so much better than eternal because of it

[timber cipher]

They should have made bfg units 360, 120 ammo each for bfg shot and everything else for unmakyr

[pearl pollen]

crucible usage is way too simple and infrequent, its cool but couldve had a cooler system

[pearl pollen]

i think its fine but the Savagery rune should speed it up

[timber cipher]

I do love tda in that area

[pearl pollen]

oh and RUNES

90% of the players use Air Control

because why would you ignore that rune in a movement shooter

[timber cipher]

If I have two issues with tda it's the demonic leaders and the slow motion from parrying and melee

[pearl pollen]

it was fine in 2016 since movement wasn’t core, not here

[timber cipher]

Air control is peak

[pearl pollen]

they’re adding a slider for the slow motion

[candid dawn]

Well luckily one of those issues will no longer exist

[timber cipher]

Yeah I can't wait for it

[pearl pollen]

it literally should be embedded into the slayer, no rune

[pearl pollen]

honestly just make unmayker have its own ammo

[candid dawn]

Or what if they somehow made it share ammo with the crucible instead

[pearl pollen]

i think the crucible shouldnt be a rarely used super weapon, when was the last time u used the crucible on something that wasn’t like an archville or maybe tyrant

[candid dawn]

Tbh I don't use the crucible outside of the icon of sin fight

[timber cipher]

I wish there were more chainsaw kill animations

[pearl pollen]

i always thought that like maybe a system where you could use it after performing something really hard (superheavy gk?) and then u can use it for like a few seconds that way you use it in bursts (and on smaller enemies)

[pearl pollen]

yeah

[candid dawn]

Damn now I kinda wish it functioned like a dark ages melee weapon

[ripe sierra]

i dont have complaints abt the gameplay but i hate that i cant skip the animation where doomguy slowly inserts his sentinel battery into each energy thingy

dude takes his sweet time acting like the world is all sunshine and rainbows while he puts in the battery

[astral hamlet]

it's very headache-inducing
everything's so fast and frantic that at the end of a tough level instead of feeling fulfilled I honestly just feel mentally drained a lot of the time

also the bigger arenas in dlcs and master levels can just drag on for ages and ages until you just want it to end

[timber cipher]

Its the opposite for me

I actually play it when I get a headache

But that's fair

[austere bronze]

i feel like restacking is too busted, and aircamping is almost always just better than playing grounded, which is boring because it's not as engaging imo

also some of the balancing in the game

most is fine, like remote det vs lob

but it's unfortunate that the mobile turret is only really useful as a beginner

like yeah sure it will always have some use cases, but it's just not a lot

unmaykr vs bfg for obvious reasons

[visual mirage]

its quite useful for double db

[austere bronze]

and dblade vs arbalest, dblade is kind of an odd one because it's extremely useful on the intermediate and above level, but otherwise it's kinda hard to use

damage probably should've been turned down a bit though, instead of +800dmg per tier make it like +700, +650, +600

and lob's damage should've been turned down a little bit too

[austere bronze]

mobile turret doesn't trigger a ddb

[visual mirage]

it does

the change between mobile turret to shield

[austere bronze]

isn't it the other way around for dblade?

[austere bronze]

oh yeah this too, probably my biggest issue is the chainsawing
glory kills are annoying too, but they're not as prevelent

[visual mirage]

nuh uh

[austere bronze]

dam

[storm eagle]

hi @austere bronze

[austere bronze]

hi lm!

[frank ginkgo]

Hi

I just started doom and it's so fun

[gleaming roost]

hi

[worldly sparrow]

i have this problem w doom eternal where it blue screens and locks up my computer. no other game does this. have reinstalled windows multiple times to fix idk atp

[formal glen]

Sometimes I don't need to see the same cacodemon kill

[civic pivot]

i afked for 3 hours yall gave up on the 200 kills

[formal glen]

We just got burned out for the day

[fierce topaz]

Lack of death animations on cacomelons and arachnotrons, especially considering how common they are

[inland mica]

srry, I'm on pc

[true fog]

You can help me?

[onyx crypt]

Fun fact. Theres a classic map (i think) in doom eternal. In one of the earlier levels that is 👍

[frigid root]

Don't know if I can ask here, but me and some else are trying to get the battlemode achivements in Doom Eternal, and we need another one for the game to start

Can someone perhaps help us in that?

[gritty mica]

Yes you can ask for help on achievements, but I'm not available rn, sorry

[frigid root]

I see

Thank you anyways

[graceful inlet]

Alr howcan i help

[frigid root]

Just helping us to get most of the achivements

I'm trying to get the one of the demon healing

[graceful inlet]

how do I join ur lobby

[frigid root]

DM me

[tender otter]

Are u on ps5 ?

[graceful inlet]

He's tryna hack u

Don't fall for it

What

[gritty mica]

Bruh

[storm eagle]

no

[civic pivot]

did i do something wrong

[frigid root]

No

It was a mistake

It isn't how it looks like

[civic pivot]

cmon i didnt even know i cant say it]

i got warned

[storm eagle]

Now you know, that's what a warning is. Don't do it.

[civic pivot]

how am i supposed to know what i can and can't say

[storm eagle]

Now you know not to say that one.

[civic pivot]

ok 😔

[storm eagle]

Not having this convo, I'm not your parent. Move on please.

[civic pivot]

i get it 🙏

[graceful inlet]

u put the dot in between steam

[frigid root]

I didn't, it was a copied quick link from the steam page

[graceful inlet]

Nvm ur legit

Mb bruu

He ain't tryna scam

I just saw s.team is actually an official service buh

[frigid root]

It happens

[graceful inlet]

mb bro

[hardy umbra]

wait a damn...

it's me.. and i'm you.. but you're not me..

[ripe sierra]

guys whats the most underrated track from the doom eternal ost in your opinion

[kind basin]

The holt

It slaps

[ripe sierra]

i like phobos base

[formal glen]

Can anyone help me and another guy with the 200 kills on battle mode?

[lusty lark]

Trail of maligog

[astral hamlet]

The baron of hell

[last osprey]

Holt theme

[visual mirage]

literally 2025

[azure oriole]

The blood swamps

[astral hamlet]

In fairness, I don’t think anyone underrates the blood swamps

[civic pivot]

i might be trippin but i dont hear anyone talking about sgn

as in like the ost

[astral hamlet]

sgn is probably my second favorite song in the game

first being meathook

[civic pivot]

what about the ost with the cool long name

[astral hamlet]

the only thing they fear is you?
it's great

[civic pivot]

totfiy

you cant even make an acronym for it lowk

also imo cultist base is a better sgn

or idk feels like a combo of meathook and sgn i cant explain it

[astral hamlet]

favorite songs in eternal probably are (not counting bfg division)
1 meathook, 2 super gore nest, 3 bfg 10k , 4 cultist base, 5 blood swamps, 6 the only thing they fear is you

[civic pivot]

quite low rating for the only thing they fear ngl

but i guess it does have solid contenders

[astral hamlet]

the fact that I've heard it so often probably doesn't do it any favors

obviously it's the bfg division of eternal, but I still like a few other tracks more

[ripe sierra]

The only thing they fear is the most popular rn

Kinda overrated tho

Its good but the other tracks def deserve the same hype

[astral hamlet]

agree

[ripe sierra]

Especially SGN and cultist base

[visual mirage]

especially the ones i personally like

[magic axle]

I am here to ruin peoples day

[frank ginkgo]

Well i am here to stop you

[gritty mica]

No

[frank ginkgo]

*clocks shotgun

[graceful current]

Phobos Base

[graceful current]

i mean lowkey i think tottfiy (given it was actually mixed by mick) was clearly given the bfg division treatment where he put the most effort into it lol

like you could clearly tell it was the one he wanted people to focus on given the RIP AND TEAR at the end

[formal glen]

@austere bronze double dblade is so easy and so peak

[gilded aspen]

Which rune do you recommend for the first rune in Ultra Nightmare?

[azure oriole]

Time slowdown when mid air

[ripe sierra]

Is there ever a reason to not use air control rune? Besides ballista boost but u can still do it with practice

[visual mirage]

air control brainrot

[lusty orchid]

air control only in ohio

back in 'nam they forced us to single dash

[formal glen]

thats so useless honestly

[azure oriole]

Not for me

[formal glen]

I was playing horde mode when they decided to throw a spirit at me (I had no way of killing the spirit, only 3 guns)

[formal glen]

I respect that

[astral hamlet]

you just gotta look at what demon the spirit's about to possess and kill it

and then do that for the whole rest of the round

[formal glen]

I did

but I felt a bit harassed at first

luckily it was only targeting prowlers

[lusty orchid]

gotta agree tho chrono strike is bad

[formal glen]

except for the mancubus at the very start

[formal glen]

is that what its called?

[lusty orchid]

ya

[astral hamlet]

if your accuracy is good it's not that useful yeah

[formal glen]

the only usefulness is for the pain elemental toy

[astral hamlet]

and eventually it just becomes a crutch

[formal glen]

it does the opposite of what I want, make everything slower

I like a good glory kill for some relief but not everything slowing down temporarly

[lusty orchid]

any time you wanna use a mod mid air slows down time, game as movement heavy as DE it dam near feels like a negative status effect

[formal glen]

I also find aiming in fps games quite easy

[pearl pollen]

i got used to not using it so that way i can use that slot

got ballista boosting down

[lusty orchid]

woawie a lot of ballistga boosters in chat today

[pearl pollen]

its a crutch it helps beginners

[lusty orchid]

hmm ya

didnt think of that, never used it myself when i was a beginner

[ripe sierra]

Alr next question. What's ur guys fav main campaign lvl

[pearl pollen]

uhhhhh

[astral hamlet]

super gore nest

[ripe sierra]

Mine is arc complex

[pearl pollen]

wait no

doom hunter base

[lusty orchid]

hmmm i like urdak

[pearl pollen]

or arc

[ripe sierra]

Arc complex is so good

But sgn combat encounters are lowk hella fun

Ima be real I prob only like arc cuz of my constant pb rocket spam on the mancs

[lusty orchid]

u can pb rocket spam anywhere brother

hearts content

[ripe sierra]

Its more fun on arc complex

Feels like the encounters are built for pb rocket

[lusty orchid]

do yall play any mods

if so, reccomendations?

[pearl pollen]

kaiser campaign is really hard and cool

[lusty orchid]

ill have to give it a try

[formal glen]

miku slayer

[austere bronze]

lol yea

nice sidenote, if you double shot rhe dblade while having less than 100 ammo, you will fire 2 dblades but it'll only cost 50 ammo

this does not work for arbalest and idk how/if it works for partially charged dblades

[formal glen]

Erm

That's so weirdly wonderful

[storm timber]

why dosnt dlss 4 give fps boost in eternal?

[timber cipher]

Cultist base, super gore nest, taras nabad

Worst levels are probably doom hunter base and exultia

[timber cipher]

Super gore nests theme ngl, Its awesome as hell

The music in final sin is also really cool

[gentle tundra]

anyone want to do multiplayer achivments? needed one person

steam

[formal glen]

What do you need

Or still all of them

[gentle tundra]

for me bloothbath and heal 50k (30k done) for the other guy 25 matches and 5 diff demons

[formal glen]

I only need the kills

I have 59/200 I think

[gentle tundra]

so

are you willing?

[formal glen]

Yes but idk how long ill be able to stay on for now

[gentle tundra]

what's your nickname

[formal glen]

Don't you need my steam user

[gentle tundra]

ye thats why im askung

sorry for not being precise

[formal glen]

No it's fine I'm gonna check soon ill go shower rq

[gentle tundra]

sure

[true fog]

Can anyone help me with battlemode for the platinium

[scenic axle]

Anything by Saleem

Infernum isn’t too hard and is a really cool looking level

Bysiors stuff are super cool but a huge step up in difficulty from base game mls

At least consumed earth is

[formal glen]

Why didnt they release some MLs?

Im playing them and theyre completly fine

[gentle tundra]

@formal glen Have you already checked?

[formal glen]

checked what?

oh

[gentle tundra]

your steam nickname

[formal glen]

I sent you my code

and its goji

[gentle tundra]

oh now i see

[lusty orchid]

imma try this

[wind hornet]

Game is really fun

[timber cipher]

doom eternal campaign ultra nightmare is already hard enough

should i try tag1

[light elbow]

I* played it on UV and it was tough 🤭

Im also bad so

[timber cipher]

uv is normal for me

[light elbow]

Ignore me

[timber cipher]

i play on hard difficulty for all my games

[light elbow]

Haha

[timber cipher]

nightmare is the normal difficulty for me atm i dont want to turn it down

[light elbow]

You'll have no problem 😊
It is action packed! More so than the base game

[timber cipher]

i really want to get my skill up i keep dying on UN for some reason

[fierce topaz]

Me too

[ripe sierra]

does any else put there music up to max in settings and tone down everything else?

[astral hamlet]

yep

[ripe sierra]

please buff the Khan Makr boss fight 💔

[pearl pollen]

no that would be harder

un tag2 is easier

[smoky cedar]

UN TAG2 is the easiest of the 3. Largely due to how short it is.

It was very easy to practise

[austere bronze]

largely due to how easy it is compared to the other campaigns lol

[smoky cedar]

Like I practiced Tag 2 like 10 times before doing UN

[smoky cedar]

I mean sure but I wouldn’t say it’s that much easier

Especially on launch with Cursed Prowlers n the like

[austere bronze]

tag2 has been made harder since launch

and it is quite a lot easier, especially with the absolutely game breakkng weapon that is the hammer

[candid dawn]

Yeah the only part of tag 2 that's like actually hard is the first and last arenas of reclaimed earth

I dont remember what the escalation encounters are like but those are optional anyway

[lucid flame]

Who has all the skins for Doom Eternal

[frank ginkgo]

I Dont

Cause I just started

[scenic axle]

as long as you know how to beat the dark lord and you abuse the hammer, its actually absurdly easy. If you play with intent to abuse the hammer theres no challenge at all, if you don't then it can be kinda hard

[restive kestrel]

I didn't really like the hammer much, so I tend to avoid it

[smoky cedar]

Yeah a lot of that ease is the length

Short encounters, short levels, hammer being powerful is ofc a major factor

[restive kestrel]

I greatly prefer the Crucible for a quick escape when I miscalculate a movement or manage to somehow not notice a particular demon is in the arena before he's already in my face.

The hammer I didn't really use very effectively, and the cartoony sound effects really drew me out of the game, so I mostly avoided using it.

[visual mirage]

Damn thats kinda zased ngl

[restive kestrel]

Not that I used the Crucible much either, but it's nice to have for them sudden moments where there's no time to think or act.

[austere bronze]

i think it's kinda dumb how the hammer was a universal solution to problems (low armor/health, bad ammo management, bad positioning)

[restive kestrel]

I used it so little that I didn't even notice that to be honest with you.

[visual mirage]

It also makes the marauder (the best enemy in the whole game mind you) a complete joke

[austere bronze]

so true

[restive kestrel]

As much as I didn't enjoy the hammer personally, I don't mind it being present. The folks I know that didn't really vibe with Eternal all had a similar complaint, which centered around there being too much going on the entire time and too much for them to manage. While I'm great at multitasking and tend to thrive better when there is more to focus on at a time, I understand that others can't really do it the same and have their own very different strengths. I think having a tool to help mitigate a glaring issue for some of the fanbase isn't a bad thing so long as the rest of us have the choice to just not use it.

[smoky cedar]

The hammer is awesome

Another way to falter enemies? Yes please. Only issue is that it’s ridiculous easy to get. If it was 4-5 charges, it would be a perfect balance. And we can see what a level is like when it’s balanced around the hammer with World Spear ML

[restive kestrel]

Opinions like that are why I think it's a good thing the hammer is in the game overall despite my preferences.

If it brings you joy, use that sucker

[smoky cedar]

Yup, I love it. It was balanced perfectly in horde mode and the aforementioned ML

[restive kestrel]

I'll have to try it out more in Horde and in Master Levels when I get a proper PC together again. Maybe it'll manage to grow on me.

[smoky cedar]

But yeah it really needs to be balanced accordingly for custom maps. Its one of if not THE strongest tool in the arsenal

4 second falter, multiplied resources, huge damage

[visual mirage]

modded content that rely too much on the hammer is kinda boring imo

[austere bronze]

the hammer isn't a falter though, it's a whole-ass stun
making it take more charges isn't a sufficient solution in my opinion, as each usage of the hammer severely detracts from the game's intended challenge and breaks many of the foundations

[smoky cedar]

I wouldn’t put it in everything, but having it every now and then is appreciated. I don’t think it necessarily replaces the other options more so contributes to the resource management. The reason I say this is because you actively need to engage in gameplay to get it. Which is why I think 4-5 charges is perfect for it.

[austere bronze]

i'd make it require 2/3 points to charge, fodder headshot kills and weakpoint destruction is 0,5 points, heavy headshot kills is 1 point
then half the damage it deals, remove ammo drops, drastically decrease armor drops and decrease health drops, and make the stun a hard falter

optimally, it would be replaced by something like the sentinel axe (a modded that replaces the hammer)

[smoky cedar]

Insignificant difference. Just semantics. 4 second falter, stun, you know what I mean

And I disagree completely. I see it as a super attack you can use more regularly, but one that still contributes to the loop. Like it sorta trivialises the chainsaw in some capacity but I don’t rly see an issue. The fact you gotta work towards it is why I think it’s fine. Just like a blood punch or something.

Eternal's end game meta is basically just falter looping enemies, so I think it’s just an extension of that. Plus there are ways to balance it beyond adjusting resources. Screechers were introduced to literally deter hammer usage. Possessed or Screecher buffed enemies can only be stunned via microwave beam. Hammer's main function is useless against them

Hammer is meant to be strong, I personally wouldn’t nerf it in any major way beyond adjusting the charges. The game already possesses mechanics that can balance the usage. Hazards, screechers, spirits, etc.

[visual mirage]

false advertising

you can stun possessed marauders with the hammer

[smoky cedar]

When they’re already stunned, yes

Just put more possessed marauders, problem solved lol

[astral hamlet]

The hammer as a concept just isn’t good for gameplay
The whole game we’ve been operating under the same loop: chainsaw for ammo, GK for health, flame belch for armor
The hammer completely covers almost all three of those bases for damn near no cost at all

[smoky cedar]

Which is why you adjust the cost

[astral hamlet]

And to boot it trivializes marauders and other dangerous enemies

[astral hamlet]

No, it’s why it shouldn’t even exist

[visual mirage]

remove the hammer and give me back my beloved crucible 😛

[smoky cedar]

And there are ways to augment this.

[smoky cedar]

Nope, I like it

[astral hamlet]

Honestly a better idea

[astral hamlet]

Well yeah it’s fun
But it destroys the core gameplay of eternal

[smoky cedar]

Ah yes the oneshot sword is better for the gsme's loop, compared to something that plays into it

[smoky cedar]

But it doesn’t tho

[visual mirage]

I dont want to have a weapon previously owned by a betrayer

[astral hamlet]

I explained how it does mess up the gameplay loop, maybe you could explain how it doesn’t

It turns proper resource management into just farming charges for the hammer

[austere bronze]

it provides excessive resources across the board, eliminating the need for good flame belching, glory killing, and chainsawing. on top of this it severely reduces the need for good positioning and enemy threat management, as anytime that's an issue you can just daze everything somewhat close to you. generally, this game promotes efficient usage of your arsenal and maximizing the utility of each weapon, but the hammer is more like a universal solution which therefore limits player skill expression. the hammer lets you get away with worse plays across the board while reducing skill expression (at the very least not increasing it).
it's not even close to the blood punch. the blood punch ties in well with the gunplay while having many different practical applications and promoting skill expression and individual playstyles a lot. it's also not excessive and the way you charge it is by doing things well.

[smoky cedar]

It plays into the falter/stun system. You have to actively engage in gameplay mechanics (getting GKs and part breaks) to get it in the first place, and then proper usage and multiply your existing boons. You can already get huge amounts of health and armour without the hammer. The most it rly does is trivialise the chainsaw which I’d argue is offset by the charges required (which in my ideal scenario would be 4-5).

[austere bronze]

making glory kills charge the hammer was also terrible

[astral hamlet]

A free 4 second stun does not play into the falter system
It encourages you to completely ignore it, because why falter an enemy (which takes some skill, mind you) when you can just press V and stun him and everything around it

And weak point breaks and gks are already incentivized—there is zero need for an all powerful weapon that charges on something you should be doing anyway

[austere bronze]

that's an extremely reductive view of the end-game "meta", and doesn't really take into consideration that people have different playstyles. screechers are terrible enemies and when you need to modulate the usage or effectiviness of a tool via external means, that should indicate it's opverpowered. moreover, that forces map makers to use these modulators, or risk making their encounters significantly weaker and not as reflective of eternal's general philosophy.

[visual mirage]

Eh not really you literally can falter anything with a single shot from the ssg

[austere bronze]

having GKs charge the hammer also risks incentivizing players to overly glory kill to the point where it's bad for their gameplay (maybe not when the hammer is there, but without it it definitely is)

[smoky cedar]

Flame belching or icebombing a crowd of fodder will already give you excessive resources. Once again, this can easily be balanced by using more difficult enemies at once where the resource boon is needed. And once again it requires game planning to use the hammer effectively too, especially if you’re in a pickle. Gotta Iceborne and flamebelch a group of demons and then hammer. You just get more, which as I said could be necessitated by enemy placement balance.

The daze is powerful sure, but an ice bomb or double frag isn’t? Again, add more possessed or screechers.

And once gain, I don’t think it limits creativity at all. It’s just a tool that you can use to extend your combos lol. It can be a crutch for new players but it can also be excellent for vets as well.

How does the hammer not tie into gunplay? You need to get weakpoint breaks lol. Most people use it on Mancubi and proceed to break weakpoints to get it back. It is essentially an extended falter. If microwave beam locking is considered advanced and conducing to gunplay, I don’t see how the hammer cannot contribute to it either lol.

[smoky cedar]

Screechers are excellent enemies lol. They make you adjust your approach. Can’t spam Pb rockets or whatever, you have to avoid an enemy instead of just killing them.

[astral hamlet]

because point-blanking a baron/mancubus/dread knight/tyrant/caco/pain elemental to get them to falter has zero risk involved, right 😆

and besides, once you soft falter them once, there's an immunity window

[astral hamlet]

true

[visual mirage]

it doesnt
You can stun lock all of them just by ssg+pb

[smoky cedar]

It quite literally plays into lol. And it’s not like you’re getting the hammer that often (if it was 4-5 charges), like that’s around the same frequency as a blood punch or frag, or the timing around soft falters. Like it’s a long stun window sure but it’s a super weapon. It’s meant to be strong.

Hence it plays into the existing systems. You already want to break weakpoints cause they falter enemies, heavily nerf enemies and do good damage, and now they give you charges for the hammer.

[visual mirage]

And its even worse when they are starting to spawn

[astral hamlet]

you can do anything to enemies when you spawncamp them
doesn't really prove anything

[candid dawn]

If I were designing the hammer I would just have it be a simple hard falter instead of a long daze and give half the resources it does normally

[smoky cedar]

Ik in Kaiser mod they made it so you need blood punch kills to charge the hammer. If that’s a more elegant solution than GK, that’s a worthy adjustment too. I just think players only using GK's on fodder will be ubiquitous

[astral hamlet]

why on earth would getting the hammer around the same frequency as a BP or a frag be a good thing

[visual mirage]

You can do anything to enemies even when you dont spawncamp them

[smoky cedar]

Cause it’s fun. And it’s meant to be used and not rly saved up like a BFG charge. Again many ways to balance this with enemy encounters n the like. Screechers lone stammer it

[visual mirage]

ssg+pb a baron doesnt take any skill at all

[astral hamlet]

yeah if there's only one enemy on the screen

[candid dawn]

I don't think it makes for interesting gameplay when they're literally just standing there asking for you to deal damage to them

[visual mirage]

in that case you just pb+rocket lol

[smoky cedar]

That’s fair. Idm the stun personally

[astral hamlet]

is your whole argument seriously "the game is already easy, so why not make it even easier"?

[smoky cedar]

The thing is double fragging or ice bombing can achieve the same thing.

[visual mirage]

Also its not like its going to take ages to take out a pain elemental via ssg+pb without the danger of other ai approaching you

[astral hamlet]

"it's already easy to falter enemies with normal weapons, so why not let the player stun them for multiple seconds on end with the hammer"
this is literally the argument you have just made

[candid dawn]

True but they require at least a couple more inputs and some semblance of aiming

[visual mirage]

I never said that
You said “faltering takes skill”
I never defended the hammer

[astral hamlet]

yeah, strategically faltering enemies takes skill
you can't stunlock enemies with just pb/ssg and pb/rocket, we both know that's not how the game works

[visual mirage]

You can via damage threshold

with any weapon

[astral hamlet]

yes, and after said damage threshold is reached, enemies become immune to soft falters for multiple seconds on end

[visual mirage]

then you just launch a grenade and then repeat

or blood punch

[astral hamlet]

bro it's not like enemies are just fed to you in isolation one after the other
I really don't know what you're trying to accomplish by acting like this is somehow trivial or something

[austere bronze]

it is true that the flame belch already provides the player with excessive resources, restacking is already busted! but at least there's quite a bit to learn about restacking effectively (even at the advanced level of play), the hammer is generally mindless and due to the excessiveness of it, can just be spammed. and let's say the charge requirements were upped, making it less spammable. it would still be game breaking on each use, and it isn't particularly skillful still.
like i said earlier, using external means of balancing a single tool is drastically worse than just nerfing or reworking the tool itself for many reasons.
the daze is very powerful, much more so than an ice bomb or frag. frags are routinely integrated into combos and synergize with gunplay, along with being used as a means of controlling the arena, and the skill roof with them is quite high. the ice bomb's skill roof is smaller, but it's also less useful overall than the frags. and even if these were overpowered tools, does that justify adding another one? "Again, add more possessed or screechers." again, better to just fix the issue.
the hammer limits creativity by being a universal solution to encounters and excelling at a great deal of fundamental eternal skills without you actually... well.. having to learn the skills. threat management? reduced. positiong? eh. restacking? lol. the hammer isn't used to extend combos. while it does apply FSE and you can Wack Swap it, it is by no means a combo tool.
the hammer doesn't tie into gunplay because it reduces the need for high DPS (again, the daze, which even applies to marauders, armored barons, etc). weak points are already at the top of the priority list when entering a battle, and being more rewarded for destroying them doesn't change anything. and the microwave beam isn't particularly advanced.

[visual mirage]

Base game is really like that

[austere bronze]

also, something being wack swappable doesn't mean a lot when you can literally wack swap a mod swap animation lol, same goes for applying fse, when the literal ssg reload animation can do that

[astral hamlet]

uh huh

[austere bronze]

screechers are a poor attempt at modulating combat. they could be somewhat defendable, if it wasn't for the absolutely bonkers amount of bugs with them

yes i love when enemies supposed to punish the enemy for killing them kills themself!

[visual mirage]

you dont like how destroying a weakpoint triggers them??

[austere bronze]

yes i love when that enemy pulls all other enemies towards it, clumping them together around it!

[storm eagle]

lol M1

[austere bronze]

🤫

[storm eagle]

The energy you have is unmatched, brother

[austere bronze]

i know i have such aura

lmao

[storm eagle]

real

[south pine]

Disculpen, saben como conseguir los 3 hitos secretos del the ancient gods parte 1?

[visual mirage]

Creo que son los que te tienes que pasar los tres niveles en dificultad pesadilla

[south pine]

Ah ya, y supongo que así también para los hitos secretos del the ancient gods parte 2 no?

[visual mirage]

Sí

[storm eagle]

English only please, thanks!

[amber igloo]

I don't know if you're on play or xbox but if you want to you don't have to pass it on nightmare mode, you can get the achievements in hurt me plenty, but if you can do that then go ahead

[visual mirage]

He was talking about the ingame milestones, not the achievements

[spark minnow]

is there a good way to get used to binds again like a trainer

[storm eagle]

Practice

[timber cipher]

i just invented quickswapping in dmc3

it shreds through enemy healthbars crazy just like doom eternal

[lethal fable]

Chat

Im gna try Ultra nightmare again

[obtuse edge]

looking for one more person to farm kills in Battlemode (on playstation)
feel free to @ me or send DM sankyuuuuu ^~^

[pearl pollen]

gl

[lethal fable]

I died 2x again

Been a while since i played, used to die at cultist base now i die at exultia

[haughty juniper]

has anyone ever beaten un for all 3 chapters on nintendo

[lavish mantle]

Guys

Do your demon tier list of how much you hate them

[haughty juniper]

mech zombie at s tier and marauder at a tieer rest is fine

[astral hamlet]

carcasses and spirits in S tier
whiplashes and shield soldiers in A tier
everything else I don't mind

[lavish mantle]

Ok ill do a tier list template rn and then 'yall can share it

[visual mirage]

marauders and every dlc demon suck

[lavish mantle]

tiermaker.com/create/doom-eternal--ancient-gods---demons-tier-list-18557799

here is a tier list template

[boreal shoal]

I just first tried ultra nightmare tag1

I hate you samur

[boreal shoal]

Which situation is more annoying:

Carcass shield blocking your glory kill

OR

Carcass shield blocking your blood maykr/maykr drone headshot

[astral hamlet]

probably the first one, because the second scenario doesn't really happen to me all that often

[ripe sierra]

big blue shield always annoying

i cant seem to beat the gladiator without using a one up

i always js use one

im js not good at dodging the flail attacks

[astral hamlet]

I still don't understand that fight honestly
I can either have a nearly-flawless run or die multiple times in each phase, yet I have no idea what I even did differently between the two

[ripe sierra]

i always js use one

never used more never had a perfect run

def gonna be a problem during ultra nightmare

[narrow oyster]

Try going airborne a bit more often?

Can do some nasty lob shenanigans iirc

[scenic axle]

Stone imps are buns but marauders and spirits are awesome

[frosty nymph]

Salut je suis nouveau ici j'ai installé DOOM eternal avant hier sans jamais avoir joué à la franchise et franchement c'est une masterclass je m'éclate comme jamais

[wide field]

I like fighting marauders

[lapis osprey]

Let's nuke some places irl

[formal glen]

Finally got all the achievements..

[shadow ibex]

battlemode seems much easier for demons

[austere bronze]

it's kinda funny how strafe dashing in water specifically is faster than going in any one direction, but otherwise it isn't

i kinda wonder how that came to be lol

[astral hamlet]

Really
I never knew that

[austere bronze]

tons of small weird things lol, gets you wondering sometimes though

[shadow ibex]

bro battlemode is literally impossible for new players everyone i play with is a battlemode god ive played against 4 people on the top 10 global current leaderboard for demons

ik theres not that many playing so the leaderboard is small but like these guys have beat ultra nightmare over level 250 like whattt

[tulip finch]

hi

[small galleon]

Hello there

[bronze estuary]

Sup

[shadow ibex]

dawg i just played up againsf the #1 on the leaderboard for demons and hes level 180 with a star so pretty much level 400

[scenic axle]

Playing more campaign and just being good at campaign can help a lot in battle mode so if you don’t have many hours just playing campaign can help

[shadow ibex]

i have like 80 hours and i still wont be able to beat those guys

[mint pulsar]

somebody play fortnite here

[visual mirage]

battlemode players preying on new players just so they can brag about being on top of the leaderboard but start dodging matches after they encounter a decent slayer 🥱

[haughty juniper]

play doom slayer vs 50 screeched, buffed, and spirited

marauders

and 100 screeched, buffed, and spirited barons and tyrants

and 100 archies

no fodders, no powerups, no superweapons, no hammer

on un

inverted controls, no scroll jump

trapped in an enclosed box

just small enough to perfectly fit everything

[uneven vine]

https://tenor.com/view/spamton-gets-burned-spamton-spamton-tenna-spamtenna-tenna-gif-15397680562598785666

[scenic axle]

Those guys probably have 800 hours, 80 hours isn’t much

[shadow ibex]

ik thats what i was saying also i bet they have more cause one guy i played had 8 stars which means level 250 8 times

[lapis copper]

Ive had to do the cultist base chapter for a fourth time in my first playthrough because I accidentally hit escape twice while trying to get the slayer gate done.

Proof I probably shouldn't stay up late when im tired

[charred pier]

can i postt images here

nvm

[vestal meteor]

[lavish mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[charred pier]

What

I posted it on screenshots

[nimble marten]

is arc complex crashing on load for anyone else??

[desert jasper]

Guys how to put cheat codes on doom eternal???

[gritty mica]

You mean the floppy disc ones or console commands?

[astral hamlet]

Mission select has a cheat codes button at the bottom

[desert jasper]

Console

[desert jasper]

TYSM

[gritty mica]

To open the console commands, press the tilde key, and then you can put in different console commands, also I think if you use them it disables achievements

[potent cove]

Hi how can I do the 200kill trophy quickly on console ?

[candid dawn]

Play as slayer and just let the demons respawn for multiple kills

[potent cove]

Are the kills I made in demon counted or not?

[nimble marten]

they are

[potent cove]

Tysm

[potent cove]

I need help for the trophy 200kill

[austere bronze]

yes

[waxen goblet]

Hello, is it normal that when I close the new launcher, the game also closes?
Hi from Kazakhstan

[split needle]

I wish to have the mods on console

[shadow ibex]

battlemode is sooooo bad bro why did i even say i wanted to get all milestones, series for slayer and demons, and altar of glory 😭 this is so painful

[shadow ibex]

can anyone help me get the hide and seek champion and that escalated quickly milestones on battlemode? im on ps

[austere bronze]

i love having 280 heavy cannon ammo while in the ballista
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1403156258076364941/doomsandbox64vk.exe_Screenshot_2025.08.08_-_01.18.06.99.png?ex=68968699&is=68953519&hm=f8aba8d62d9cd09dcb46eaa7c01cfb64683304a482fef69fcd7e974ad4d9ffae&

[fiery gate]

Is the launcher and mod menu kind of buggy or is this local to me? I haven't done a ton of troubleshooting yet

There also seems to be a bug in the menu when lauching the game modded and I can't rebind my controls?

[humble marlin]

I think eternal deadass might be one of the best fps games I've ever played

and it's 120 fps on consoles

[astral hamlet]

it's top 3 for me for sure

[fiery gate]

Looks like the key binding bug is persistent in both modded and unmodded

Sorry if this is the wrong channel to talk about it, will gladly post about bugs elsewhere

If there is somewhere better for it

[austere bronze]

ye it's my personal fave game at least

[smoky cedar]

Water is wet ahh take

[austere bronze]

naw not really

[smoky cedar]

Downloading bob-omb battlefield rn

[austere bronze]

do version 1.0 for maximum fun

[smoky cedar]

Oh brother I gotta redo my bindings I think

[austere bronze]

it's somehow even worse don't do version 1.0

or i haven't really played any other version, but i don't imagine it's worse than 1.0 lol

[humble marlin]

I thought I liked tda more idk

split between the two now

[smoky cedar]

Broooooo they added fucking Kaiser campaign enemies

LMFAOOOOOOOO there’s like 50 enemies on screen

[pearl pollen]

absolutely

[pearl pollen]

me too

[smoky cedar]

Yeah this game is gonna be endlessly replayed. My kids will be playing this shit. Eternal modding will be crazy in 10 years time

[formal glen]

I needed to pull out the bfg for that one..

[tame topaz]

I love how modded DE is mainline now.

Welcome brothers and sisters, to peak DE.

[smoky cedar]

I got fairly far into the wave of Kaiser enemies I think

But I rly wanted to record the chaos so I ended up dying LOL

[formal glen]

Awesome

My main issue was that I don't how to counter the enemies

[smoky cedar]

It was ridiculous though

[smoky cedar]

Yeah I’ve never played Kaiser mod. Will certainly do so in the future

[formal glen]

I mean I still don't. But the blood punch worked against the cyber cacodemon

[smoky cedar]

It was so fucking awesome tho. The hammer came in clutch so many times

[formal glen]

I feel like I'm just gonna get frustrated eventually

[smoky cedar]

Wasn’t enough

[tame topaz]

Fuck you VEGA.

[smoky cedar]

Kaiser mod looks masochistic. Like Ninja Gaiden 2 Master Ninja type shit

[tame topaz]

REEEEE.

[formal glen]

Is that even eternal lol

[smoky cedar]

But I will peep it. 😋 classic mod

[formal glen]

As a fellow masochist I think there's a difference between pushing through something hard and getting frustrated

[smoky cedar]

I think most people came out enjoying Kaiser mod so I think I’ll be good

I will NOT be attempting UN

[tame topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1403177645113606195/20250804231202_1.jpg?ex=68969a84&is=68954904&hm=5e64b555970218c5f37a81be4a83e8eef743718992092ddc573b2fc856559943&

VEGA gets pissy if I do more than one at a time.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1403178904423764019/20250806201758_1.jpg?ex=68969bb0&is=68954a30&hm=35cf2969fe3500bc9b0f64ea49dc13e5e4f3a3f0e8fe166c6aba5ce2e7fd8edc&

[candid dawn]

Woah are those 2016 cyberdemons functional?

[tame topaz]

They're WIP according to Nayrham. I spawned them in to test and compare.

I was curious to see how they'd function and they seem to work fine, they're just missing attacks, sounds and most animations. They do have the 3-blade swipe and stomp though and deal damage.

[rough snow]

hey guys, are yall having problems with launch options? when my game starts, it doesnt go past the bethesda intro / cutscene anymore, nor do i have my fov and view model changes and i think its because of the new launcher thing. anyone have a work around?

[tame topaz]

Did you have these mods installed via the injector?

[rough snow]

no. it is in the launcher options via steam.

i cant send images, but i have the string of commands for you

+com_skipIntroVideo 1 +sync_JeffsFOVHottness 0 +sync_autoFOV 0 +hands_offsetx 0.08 +hands_offsety 0 +hands_offsetz -0.05 +hands_fovscale 1.05 +g_fov 130

[tame topaz]

That's odd, my game works just fine with those.

[rough snow]

really? i just validated my files and they still dont work

[tame topaz]

Do you have any mods loaded?

[rough snow]

no, i do have the injector but no mods

or i guess, the old mod injector

since they just added one into the game

I would assume you are also playing on steam?

[tame topaz]

Oh.

Yeah I am. You should probably get the new version of the injector and try with that.

Otherwise those commands won't work. The injector unlocks the console.

Also get meathook.dll. I'll try to link it.

[rough snow]

whats that do? and im pretty sure i have the new one actually, i meant like the new launcher thing that came with steam. have you seen it yet?

it seems there is a new injector, how would i wipe the old one from the games files? just drag and remove?

[tame topaz]

The meathook dll will unlock other console commands and cvars that you might need, I think the one in Nexumods still works even if it's dated 2022.

[rough snow]

Is it the one that came out 3 days ago?

[tame topaz]

After reverifying files, just drag and drop the injector files and overwrite the old ones. Run it once, and DE should launch afterwards. Try and see if it boots with those commands.

[tame topaz]

That would be the mod injector. For right now just update that and see if it has any effect when you boot up DE.

I think meathook has been deprecated and replaced by Kaibz's advanced options actually. Been a while since I checked out what that does.

[rough snow]

alright, ill be back in a couple minutes

uh, now im a bit confused. got this error message trying to update the injector : ERROR: "doomSandBox/DOOMSandBox64vk.exe" has a wrong MD5 hash!-

    This means that your copy of "doomSandBox/DOOMSandBox64vk.exe" doesn't match the version that this batch file was made for.

    Please update EternalModInjector, delete "doomSandBox/DOOMSandBox64vk.exe", and verify DOOM Eternal's installation through Steam.
    This version of this batch file is designed for Update 6.66 Rev 3 of DOOM Eternal.

[tame topaz]

Oh look it up on gamebanana.

#eternal-modding message

You're on Steam right?

[rough snow]

you cam DM it to me

i just got the one from there, posted 3 days ago

[tame topaz]

Oh.

Wait 'DOOMSandBox64vk.exe'?

You're supposed to drop the injector in the root DE folder, not the sandbox folder.

[rough snow]

i feel like i should just re install the game, theres so many files in the game folder now

when i tried updating the injector it seems it just pasted most of the files and didnt overwrite the previous ones

[tame topaz]

Sure, if you can afford the time to reinstall you can go for that. Just remember to drop the injector files in /DOOMEternal, not /doomSandBox, and run it once.

[rough snow]

strange it is in eternal

[tame topaz]

What happens when you run the manager?

[rough snow]

the manager gives me that same prompt, with the text above here -

i didnt word that right, the manager is fine works till the injector starts to run after ive selected my mods

then gives me that prompt

[tame topaz]

Just to clarify, you're running the injector from /DOOMEternal, right?

You didn't drop the injector files in the sanbox folder?

[rough snow]

yep, ill send an image. its VERY cluttered and im not even sure why or what happened with everything in the file

[whole cape]

I want to try using mods but no launcher opens to do so.. I am on steam deck

I just get to the main menu

[timber cipher]

i am officially quitting ultra nightmare on doom eternal

[scenic axle]

Why

[humble marlin]

I died to fire on ultra nightmare today 💔

[noble forum]

Just downloaded game wish me luck

[nimble marten]

wait why do all models look so much worse in terms of lighting in pc mod preview??

[storm eagle]

gl, have fun!

[noble forum]

Thank you so much

[crimson yarrow]

To those who know how, please upload the following mods to the new official manager: https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1204
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1187
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1499
I hate how I can't see it properly if I have a higher scale on my display settings, btw

[visual mirage]

DOOM Eternal would have been a good game if you could do this in vanilla

[crimson yarrow]

Do what?

Are you referring to the third mod?

[visual mirage]

crucible a marauder

[crimson yarrow]

So yes, then

[pearl pollen]

i mean but then you’d basically ONLY use it on marauders

i would at least

[cedar girder]

Kinda random but is anyone else here unable to play battlemode? (I'm on PC)

[kindred pebble]

so whats new/different from the beta

[umbral yarrow]

is there a way to speed up the game through console

like how dark ages has a slider

[tame topaz]

Timescale.

[umbral yarrow]

can you share the command

[tame topaz]

Timescale.

:U

[umbral yarrow]

the one I gotta enter in the console, is just "timescale"

thats it?

[austere bronze]

well you have to put a value too of course

it does however limit your fps to 60

but it doesn't really feel good to play on anything other than the normal gamespeed, imo at least

[umbral yarrow]

I'll see through it

[umbral yarrow]

I dont mind that

[umbral yarrow]

it says "unknown command"

[austere bronze]

are you on a modded instance of the game?

[kindred pebble]

you need meath00k

[umbral yarrow]

playing without mods

[austere bronze]

you can't really use commands otherwise

[austere bronze]

then get on the official mod portal

[umbral yarrow]

I gotta play with mods in order to use commands?

[austere bronze]

meathook's only needed for some commands

[austere bronze]

you don't have to actually instal any mods, and it doesn't change anything, but it will unhide commands

although, there should be a button somewhere to import your normal game to the sandbox, otherwise you'll start fresh there

i mean you could use the old mod injector too, but that's more of a hassle (still easy though)

[umbral yarrow]

ahh

okay

thnx

[tame topaz]

Yeah I wished they would just unlock the console for good.

Core game's not being updated anymore, cut it open and let players fiddle with it.

[torn copper]

Does enabling cheat codes disables wave 2’s Escalation encounters?

[austere bronze]

dam that last church of the holy map was harder than i thought

[tame topaz]

Oh yeah it really made me sweat blood the first couple times I ran it.

[fervent holly]

there is a mod for using the hammer in the main story?

[jolly igloo]

You know, in spite of how bad the situation between ID Software and Mick Gordon got, I’m at the very least glad that Andrew Hulshult got to finally work on an official Doom game

[boreal shoal]

I might actually be dumb

I went into tag2 to do all of the escalation encounters to get the golden bfg

And then i proceeded to NOT do the 2nd escalation encounter on the world spear

Literally right at the start

[finite sierra]

Hello

[thick wasp]

IM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WILLING TO HELP ME, (or yourself aswell) TO COMPLETE BATTLEMODE ACHIEVEMENTS IN DOOM ETERNAL IF YOUR INTERESTED DM ME. That is all 🙂

[finite sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

[carmine cypress]

so like

you think people will port their nexus mods mods now that the official mod launcher is fully out?

like idk kaisers mods for example

oh its already there

[crimson yarrow]

It doesn't launch guys

When I press "launch with active mods" nothing happens

Any advice?

[austere bronze]

verify game files

[humble marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-doom-marauder-slayer-doom-slayer-gif-26535203

[crimson yarrow]

@weary goblet @steady basin good job on the No Extra Lives mod, any chance for a version that replaces them with the full armor refills from Ultra Nightmare? (except for other difficulties)

That way we don't have instances like breaking a wall only for nothing to be behind it

[candid dawn]

This is me when I walk into Tesco and there's lots and lots of sausage rolls in the reduced section

[carmine quiver]

YO! Did anyone downloaded the newest Quakecon 2018 hud mod?

[wary trench]

Hi, can someone help me with the achievement of killing 200 players please?

game on steam

[crimson yarrow]

Pretty sure killing the players themselves is illegal but I respect the hustle

[steady basin]

there might be a different mod that does just that, as I go through all Nexus mods to port I should find it

[wary trench]

I'm referring to BATTLEMODE and to get the bloodbath achievement.

[ripe sierra]

so we have a new doom launcher

thats pretty cool

[austere bronze]

the mod portal? that's been there for almost a year or something

[ripe sierra]

idk its only started working for me now

it says new launcher look

i think it came with the update recently

[austere bronze]

it was updated recently to not be in its beta version

[ripe sierra]

oh ok

so thats why its appearing now

[crimson yarrow]

I don't think there is but thanks, good luck

Also please port this mod as well https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1187

[fallen valley]

yoo sup anyone know if there's a mod like randomizer? like dark souls randomizer where the enemys are all randoms

[astral hamlet]

Proteh has a few enemy randomizers on the official mod portal

[fallen valley]

thx

[light elbow]

It took me 2 and a half hours to defeat the final boss in AG pt 2

Geez. 😅

Took a random vacation day😎 got things done 😅

[ripe sierra]

do i seriously need to keep the launcher open to have DOOM: Eternal play

[astral hamlet]

yep

[ripe sierra]

yeah thats annoying

[nocturne minnow]

Does anyone have the GPU driver error when trying to launch Doom Eternal?

[ripe sierra]

js update ur driver as much as possible

[lost nymph]

My game crashed when the update for the mod launcher happened

Now both the launcher and the base game don't open

[nocturne minnow]

I have the latest driver

[ripe sierra]

ok then idk what it is

[sterile finch]

Does anyone have the double mouse click issue, I had it last year when starting the game through the beta launcher, but now it is an official update so I can't really play

[hollow oak]

why tf did i just lose all of my progress

[gusty trench]

Doom be doomin

[light elbow]

Are you playing on steam? My game earlier failed to load to the cloud today

[storm eagle]

The fodder be fodderin

[hollow oak]

yeah but it says my cloud is fine n up to date

[visual mirage]

then you're pretty much screwed

[hollow oak]

dang ok

atleast i still have my skkins

[visual mirage]

gl with the battlemode milestones

[hollow oak]

meh im not doing that bs

p sure my acievments r fine too

[pearl viper]

Anyone know what that medallions are that Slayer throws at the Hell priests in the cutscenes? Plz ping

[nimble marten]

i love how cultist base is basically the perfect warmup level

[scenic axle]

Why’s that

[nimble marten]

good pacing, pretty straightforward path, interesting little revenant bit and my framerate doesn't tank 😭

actually scratch that last part it goes to shit in the firewall pit

[hollow oak]

nvm my milestones are gone

fuck me ig

[crystal ravine]

hell yea

[civic pivot]

what r ur specs

[pearl pollen]

also a hella good level

top 5 imo

[steep wave]

is there anyone who wants to help me grind the multiplayer achievements

Im on pc

[deft flame]

Hey can anyone help me do the battlemode trophies on PlayStation?

[visual mirage]

#doom-eternal-achievement-farming

[steep wave]

?

[deft flame]

I hate it when games lock trophies behind a multiplayer mode its worse on PlayStation bc they are needed for the platinum trophy

[nimble marten]

laptop
potato

i get 32 fps on a good day

[civic pivot]

on doom eternal?

its like one of the best optimized games

[sullen karma]

gang are the dlcs worth playing?

might buy them today

[austere bronze]

yessirr

[pearl pollen]

i think they’re good, just too expensive

id wait for sale

[nimble marten]

my laptop
is business laptop
i have intel integrated graphics
and 16 gigs of ram

doom being one of the best optimized games is proven by my laptop being able to run it at all 😭

[cobalt pendant]

DLC is kicking my ass, I thought I was a good player, apparently not

[warm heath]

blood swapms on nightmare cooks me

[vast verge]

Looks like the latest update broke the skip intro video launch argument

[sterile finch]

It also broke the menus for me, so I can´t change the binding now, is there a way to downgrade to rev 3?

[upbeat leaf]

Same. Waiting for someone with a fix 😄

Got a workaround already 😄 Go to game folder, base-video-boot_sequence and in that folder, change the name of the video file

[calm zephyr]

how do i log out of my bethesda acc

i lost access to the email of it and cant log into it for mods

[loud wigeon]

Iiii don't know actually. I think you have to delete it and make a new one, though going on the website could work

[distant dome]

Hi, I have a problem that my tab key is not working in the game. Does anyone have any idea why?

[austere bronze]

the game is dum and thinks tab is being held down, just press alt to fix it

[distant dome]

hoh thank you, you are my great savior I couldn't get past the map tutorial

[austere bronze]

yeah i'm quite awesome

[civic pivot]

they on sale rn

[kind basin]

[deft flame]

Anyone on PlayStation willing to help me with battlemode trophies? I have the game on both my ps4 and 5 I just need 1 person

[craggy grotto]

Hi. Still looking?

[craggy grotto]

wanna team up?

[steep wave]

yea

[sage flare]

Why do the season passes last so long

[deft flame]

Basically they use to be regular seasons but when the I think it was 6.66 update came they combined like 3-4 passes together into mega passes and made them last longer I feel like you should just be able to switch them honestly

[drifting crescent]

Kira i thought you get run over by ambulance

[sage flare]

I’m able to complete a pass within a week

[sage flare]

That was kosaku kawajiri

[pearl pollen]

how much

[austere bronze]

doom hunters are weird man

i managed to get one to 0 hp, where it should've died, but then i apparently dealt -1 damage, so it healed back up to 1 hp??

[astral hamlet]

the way doom hunters take damage is so cooked

[austere bronze]

as far as i am aware, it's generally fine

[astral hamlet]

whenever I use lock on burst on a sledless doom hunter I honestly never know what's gonna happen
even though numbers-wise, it should kill him 100% of the time

[austere bronze]

that's quite logical though, i believe they got some kind of resistance towards lob (it's 3 am, won't check exact numbers now), which is why they sometimes stagger
however, any potential excess damsge you dealt when you took them off their sled is transferred to their second phase

for example, if they have 2600 HP (sled is 7500-2500, sled-less is 2500-1) and you deal 600 damage, their sled-less phase will start with 2000 HP

[astral hamlet]

i did not know about the excess damage thing, interesting

also holy crap doom hunters have damage resistance to LOB
wtf

[austere bronze]

could be when they removed iframes during their detachment, it made damage carry over, and it's just treated as a normal health pool

and lol yeah, doom hunter's first phase take 0 damage from lobs

there are a few oddities with DHs and damage though

[astral hamlet]

since a lot of times sledless doom hunters die outright from a LOB I kinda just assumed that they had no damage resistance to it

although micromissiles are still super weird with them

[austere bronze]

the last micro missiles you hit them with will deal 0 damage, and the rest 130, so a chain of 10 MMs will only deal the damage of 9

and if you tap MMs, you will get no damage at all

[astral hamlet]

wtf

and if you blast them with micromissiles they can get into GK without even dismounting the sled somehow

[austere bronze]

and they seem to have beef with direct damage in their first phase from various sources, so that 130 is all splash and no direct

[astral hamlet]

jeez

[austere bronze]

which is a big contrast to their normal 5 splash and 100 direct

[astral hamlet]

I thought it was the other way around
5 direct and 100 splash

[austere bronze]

lol the visual bug where their sled also appears to be in a GK state is funny

[austere bronze]

nah, MM got little to no splash 😭

and since DHs often take no direct damage, it'd be a little underwhelming of them to only deal 5, so they just turned it up to 130 ig

[astral hamlet]

I'm looking at the decl files rn
heavy_cannon_burst_detonate deals 5 damage
and heavy_cannon_burst_detonate_splash deals 100 damage

[austere bronze]

i'm exclusively talking about their first phase, as rhe second does take direct damage from more sources too

[austere bronze]

ye

[astral hamlet]

wait so doesn't that mean that micro missiles are almost entirely splash damage

[austere bronze]

no the reverse

almost no splash

wait

[astral hamlet]

[austere bronze]

no what

oh yea i must've gotten my numbers mixed up there ma bad

[astral hamlet]

all good lmao

[austere bronze]

i blame it being 3 am

[astral hamlet]

fair

[bright compass]

Samuel hayden in eternal was so ahh

[warm heath]

yapper

[warm heath]

"The longer the Icon of Sin is on earth, the stronger it becomes"

[prisma laurel]

he said that sentence at least 20 times'

[tardy cairn]

what are the best 3 runes

[final bobcat]

air control is good

fast glory kills plus speed boost

[jolly igloo]

My personal preference is Air Control, Blood Fuelled, and Punch And Reave

Although Equipment Fiend is also really good if you prioritise your equipment launcher over the blood punch

[tardy cairn]

i see, thanks guys

[gilded patrol]

Guys guess what

[final bobcat]

what

[gilded patrol]

I finally got the gunpletionist and If only i could read tophies

It took me 3 campaigns

cuz first one i used cheatcodes

[final bobcat]

good for you 🥳

[gilded patrol]

2nd one was xtra life

and i just beat the 3rd

THX

But now comes the 2 hardest parts

Blood Bath and Weapon Master

[sudden haven]

hi guys

[gilded patrol]

hulo

[sudden haven]

Which one is better eternal or dark ages

[final bobcat]

i like DOOM

[sudden haven]

2016?

[gilded patrol]

eternal cuz havent tried dark ages

[final bobcat]

i mean everything

[sudden haven]

fr

[final bobcat]

Im not too picky and appreciate every game

[sudden haven]

same

[sudden haven]

fair enough

tbh i just love the concept and storylne

[final bobcat]

Im slowly getting back into eternal

I took a long break

[gilded patrol]

Bru im just learning about YEETHOOKING

[final bobcat]

meathook flying?

I havent mastered it at all 😭

[gilded patrol]

search it up

Its absolute craziness

but i love the grapple mechanic so I MUST LEARN IT

[final bobcat]

sameee

I was crazy good back then

[gilded patrol]

I wasnt going to plat and replay eternal until i plat astros playroom in 4 hours

then i was like BET

[nimble marten]

isnt yeethooking fps depended

[graceful current]

for real

well i like him in some moments in the base game but holy shit fuck samur shittyass retcon

[austere bronze]

almost everything in this game is fps dependent, but yeethooking more so yeah

just because you gain speed for each frame spent on the hook while holding a sideways key

[austere bronze]

there aren't 3 objectively best, but air control and equipment fiend (if you actually use your equipment) are the 2 best, then for the third you can kinda choose between a few, which mostly depend on your playstyle and skill level

[warm heath]

air control is a must for me

[tame topaz]

Samuel in Eternal was... fine I guess. I don't care for story in a Doom game.

In 2016 all he did was piss his pants over the argent filters and lock you in place on 3 occasions, and in Eternal he's an exposition tool. Not exactly beaming over him.

[graceful current]

i think that's a pretty inaccurate take over 2016 Samuel

[tame topaz]

Oh yeah he also sent you to retrieve a maguffin then locked you away.

[tame topaz]

I don't care about the fine details of a background character that's there to bark orders at you. I got tired quick of Eternal's half-assed lore dumps and 2016's 'let's pretend the story is more serious than it actually is'. No reason for me to care about Optimus Whine and his motivation.

Personally I play Doom to enjoy the combat, ambience and music and got plenty of mileage out of every game. Any character that tries to take the limelight, my mind filters out automatically just like how everytime I try to make sense of nuDoom's plot 'nuances' I zone out. I start and end at 'Slayer is 1993 Doomguy blessed by angel, he stronk and angry' and everything else is brown noise.

[safe gazelle]

hi all, i accidentally clicked on the tick on the new launcher and now i cant see the play mods option at all. can someone help me undo this ?

[hollow oak]

Personally air control equipment fiend and the blood punch gives health

[graceful current]

i dont really gaf abt that im more talking about his personality in 2016 and how he acts

im not big on eternal and onward's story but i think in 2016 samuel has very good characterisation and he's a very welcome presence that improves the game

🤷‍♀️ 2016 having a """serious""" story isn't even like that crazy for doom given the three prior released games had all done that

[tame topaz]

2016 treating it like a mystery to solve when the story fits in a napkin, including stopping you on your tracks multiple times to hear him talk, makes the story and Hayden's character not very appealing to me.

End of story.

I just didn't care much for him in either game.

[graceful current]

🤷‍♀️

im already typing something up so you can ignore it i just like talking

[graceful current]

his exposition-y dumps in 2016 serves as both a way to characterise how he treats other human life and also serves to show how doomguy doesnt gaf about it given the numerous times he interrupts him (particularly at the intro), it's fun working with someone who disagrees with your methods heavily but both of you don't have any other choice (also it's really funny when you go against his instructions), stuff like that really makes 2016 more appealing to eternal for me

[graceful current]

the main simple story isn't treated like a mystery it's only if you read the codexes for the deeper story so it's all out of the way in 2016

i can't think of any time the story tried to be mysterious about the very main plot in 2016 other than that tree in kadingir which vagues about the mastermind but that's more like foreshadowing than a mystery

[boreal shoal]

Does the modded version not save the game??

I grinded the escalation encounters yesterday on the modded sandbox for the gold BFG, left, and it didn't save

[austere bronze]

it saves progress like the normal game

[boreal shoal]

Do you have any idea what happened there then

[austere bronze]

you exited without saving or something?

[boreal shoal]

No

After doing the one in immora, i got the very clear ''your latest progress will be saved'' text when exiting to the menu

I went from lvl 105 to lvl 106

I even equipped the gold BFG

Now i don't have it anymore and i'm back to lvl 105

[austere bronze]

oh damn

[nimble marten]

Bruh the World Spear first fountain encounter after you meet the armored baron is literally not ending what the fuck 😭😭😭

I killed EVERYONE and now it's non-stop spawning imps augg

This is abuse

[astral hamlet]

That’s just tag2 in a nutshell lmao

[nimble marten]

doom eternal is definitely not held together by knotted strands of string and paper clips

i had to close it and lose my first ever UN save 😭

[austere bronze]

how long has it been like that? cus you need to kill a lot of imps

at the very least 20, but good luck with getting it that low lol

[nimble marten]

By the point I AltF4'd it, I'd been killing imps for 20 minutes I think

[astral hamlet]

jesus

[nimble marten]

The encounter was utterly bugged

Honestly surviving UN imps swarm for 20 min feels like it's worth a pat on the back to myself

[austere bronze]

oh damnn

yeah that's for sure bugged😭

my best guess would be that with all the delays in that encounter something somehow got put on a loop? but i'm not too familiar with how encounters work

[nimble marten]

Time to reclaim earth 💀

[astral hamlet]

don't let the cursed prowlers ruin your day lmao

[nimble marten]

Im so glad I memorized where and when each one spawns in my hurt me plenty runs 😭

NEVERMIND

[austere bronze]

they're randomized!

lots of randomized spawns in tag2 lol

[nimble marten]

Wait what? It feels like at least ones spawn is seemingly fixed in reclaimed earth's first encounter though?

[foggy moth]

I think I got softlocked in Mars Core. Does anyone know how to get out? It's after you get the BFG, in a room with a 1-up. https://imgur.com/a/NyQjSsQ

Nevermind, restarting fixed it.

[nimble marten]

It's always spawned in the same spot for me

Oh wait
This is where they're introduced
Ofc it's probably fized

[austere bronze]

yea not everything is randomized, but a decent bit is

[nimble marten]

Nvm

Yeah thanks guys 😭
I'll come back weeping if I die

[austere bronze]

lmao glhf

[graceful dune]

Anyone want to team up for some online trophy hunting?

[nimble marten]

omfg i beat reclaimed earth un yay ^w^

[steel violet]

Ever since the PC mods update, the game bricks itself after the opening credits roll. Any solutions? The issues seem to be graphics and display related as if I manage to reach the settings, changing resolution or display type results in it bricking itself.

[austere bronze]

ayy, lesgoo

[nimble marten]

also does anyone have a fix for the game crashing on loading hell on earth at 66%?

nevermind i guess its just "reload game till its not broken" lol

[warm heath]

is it just me or is the mod launcher not launching

[quasi isle]

dude the new launcher doesnt load for me

yeah

[warm heath]

mine just launches the actual game

[tranquil nest]

Armored Barons are bullshit

[austere bronze]

true

[tranquil nest]

Yeah but its worse when you only have a combat shotgun and the heavy cannon

[warm heath]

when you only have combat shotgun

[austere bronze]

their bullshity-ness stays the same, but it's harder to deal with them yeah

[tranquil nest]

That too

Im regretting doing the Kaiser Campaign mod but like

I mean, at least I look badass while doing it?

[austere bronze]

lmao yeah then it gets kinda challenging to one cycle him if you don't wanna use too much equipment

[tranquil nest]

Wtf is a cursed prowler

[austere bronze]

worst enemy in the game

[tranquil nest]

I havent played TAG