doom-eternal

[pseudo kindle]

my recommendation: save your BFG shots for arenas you're sure are gonna fucking drag

because, that post hammer arena

Hoo boy that one is long as shit

WS ML is a wonderfully designed, innovative level but a lot of the arenas just drag for a lot longer than they should for seemingly no reason other than to pad out playtime

[humble marlin]

Yeah man

I feel like all MLs are like that, but man this one is rough

I get actually happy everytime I get a new checkpoint

right now I just got to the second part/map of world spear

gonna take a breather and go back to it

[pseudo kindle]

there's a lot of funny arenas in that part

[humble marlin]

omg the end battle

how the hell am I supposed to do this

[gritty mica]

Live

[humble marlin]

YEAHH I DID IT

[humble marlin]

TY

[gritty mica]

Np ig

[humble marlin]

I think I've beaten every master level on nightmare now

[gritty mica]

Awesome, is there un?

[humble marlin]

Yeah there is

I'm gonna UN super gore nest first

[gritty mica]

Nice, good luck

[scenic axle]

If you abuse the hammer it’s easier I think, but they are very similar

[visual mirage]

hammer breaks the game

[pseudo kindle]

nah just TAG2 wasn't as balanced around the hammer as it should've been

which the WS ML makes up for

I do wish though, as broken as it would've been, that we had the option to bring the hammer into the base game and TAG1

[smoky cedar]

I do think the hammer should require 4 charges instead of 2

Like how horde mode does it.

[pseudo kindle]

I think it should be 3 charges and ONLY weakpoint hits

because 4 charges being able to be refilled off of weakpoints and GKs still makes it really easy to get it back fast

[astral hamlet]

well then any arena with mancubi/revenants/arachnotrons would instantly be much easier than arenas without

difficulty balance would be inherently thrown off

[pseudo kindle]

yeah but I also think it kinda trivializes things when you can get charges off of both GKs and weakpoints when you can also refill your bloodpunch off of GKs

like you can charge two gauges at once with just one action

like you might as well restrict one thing to the other so the player can't just mindlessly GK to get both BP and hammer back in like 10 seconds

[astral hamlet]

I mean there's only so many things you can expect a player to do

glory kill, flame belch, chainsaw, blood punch

[pseudo kindle]

yeah but you're destroying weakpoints all the time

[astral hamlet]

weakpoints are neat but they're only on 3 enemies

[pseudo kindle]

yea so it makes the hammer used more sparingly, makes it more valuable

because the hammer is kind of ridiculous for what it does

[astral hamlet]

well like I said
your ability to use the hammer should not depend on the enemy composition

4 gks/weak point breaks like in horde mode felt pretty reasonable

because let's be honest 4 glory kills are pretty tedious to get

[pseudo kindle]

4 GKs and weakpoints are not, though

I just don't think a tool so strong should be so easily available

[astral hamlet]

well there are only so many solutions to this problem
making the hammer charge solely on weakpoint breaks is the least flexible of them

I honestly feel like the hammer shouldn't drop extra health/armor

like if the enemies are frozen/burning, they should drop health/armor proportional to the damage the hammer does to them, not more

[pseudo kindle]

yeaa

Ideally I'd say TAG2 should be overhauled to suit the hammer better, yk make arenas more chaotic like WS ML did but id isn't working on Eternal anymore

[astral hamlet]

dude if every tag2 level was like the world spear master level I just wouldn't play tag2 anymore

[pseudo kindle]

people will say TAG2 without the hammer is a nightmare but that only applies to a few big fights at best, which is kind of a problem

[astral hamlet]

yeah I used the hammer like 5 times in the whole dlc lol

still only had a few hard encounters

[pseudo kindle]

same LMAO but like adding a few more super heavy demons or a couple more armored barons wouldn't have hurt, the DLC really needed a little more balancing towards the hammer

it's pretty funny because I feel like tag1 was ideal for the hammer to shine

[astral hamlet]

true

[pseudo kindle]

like yk those big fights in the latter half of UAC atlantica, the hammer would've gone crazy there

[astral hamlet]

real

[pearl pollen]

yeah two is just WAY too strong

[pearl pollen]

actually this sounds the best

it shouldn’t be gks since they’re already pretty integral

[pearl pollen]

those enemies are pretty abundant tho like they’re probably among the most common heavies

like i understand what you mean and how the hammer could js not work if they aren’t present

but to they usually are

i just feel like gks are integral for health already and they have the justification of doing them even if ur at good hp for blood punches

making them on hammers would be excessive

[astral hamlet]

plenty of encounters don’t have them yeah
in fact, the toughest encounter in all of tag 2 (end of reclaimed earth) doesn’t have any breakable weak points at all until the very last wave (maybe not even then, might be misremembering)

[pearl pollen]

yeah reclaimed doesn’t have too many now that i think of it

world spear and immora are fine

honestly maybe a different mechanic than weakpointa wouldve been better idek

[astral hamlet]

even without the hammer, world spear and immora were a bit easy, with the exception of the second escalation encounter in the world spear

[pearl pollen]

ill disagree with immora ngl with the double marauders + screechers

[astral hamlet]

iirc the Kaiser mod made the hammer charge off weak point breaks and blood punch kills

[pearl pollen]

and the last encounters

[astral hamlet]

That one wasn’t too bad without the hammer

[pearl pollen]

that sounds really good

[pearl pollen]

idk i feel like that would be challenging for some

[astral hamlet]

Just run away until the screecher buff wears off if you screw up

[pearl pollen]

bp kills sounds cool

indirectly buffing punch and reave rune?

[astral hamlet]

But at the same time, kill a group of fodder with a bp and you have a hammer charge

[pearl pollen]

yeah

i was thinking what if its how bps charge (kills give half, resources give tiny bits)

so like out of like 6 for example

weakpoints give 3 and gk gives like 1

that doesn’t sound too bad either ngl

[astral hamlet]

Or

Maybe fodder gks would work like blood punch and only contribute a portion of heavy gks towards a hammer charge

Like say a hammer requires 6 charges
A fodder GK gives 1 charge, a weak point break gives 2 charges, and a heavy/super heavy gk gives 3

Maybe
But doom hunters would kinda trivialize it

Because it’s so consistent to get an easy GK with them

Nah then you’d have to be able to use the chainsaw on it

He lowk needs resistance to LOB like tyrants and barons

Honestly every super heavy needs lock on burst resistance

Deleting an archvile should not be as simple as grenade + 2 lobs

lmao

[pearl pollen]

i think its good put i feel like it just makes gks go into everything

[visual mirage]

And still there's a lot of people complaining that the archvile is hard

[pearl pollen]

they’re already integral for health and they fill up bp

[astral hamlet]

I mean it’s such a huge part of the game, why not

[pearl pollen]

it just gives no reason NOT to

[astral hamlet]

It’s more the unexpected spawns that make him hard

Equipment fiend buff

[pearl pollen]

as cool as gks are i dont want to be put at such a massive negative net for not taking one

[visual mirage]

Aside from the beginning of Taras Nabad, all of the archviles spawn exactly at the same position every time

[pearl pollen]

maybe?

[astral hamlet]

Unexpected as in a first playthrough
Like for example in the final arena of reclaimed earth, the archvile that spawns after you kill the possessed manc is terrifying on a first playthrough

[pearl pollen]

flame belch is too abundant it has like a 12.5 second cd

maybe frags since they don’t have an obvious place in combat other than supportive damage/stun

ice bombs are in a good place

[astral hamlet]

Correction, ice bomb, flame belch, then d blade

[pearl pollen]

i like this sort of but gks give 1 and weakpoints gives 2 (max 6)

smth like that

if weakpoints were more spread across enemies then gk wouldnt be needed (maybe count head shots?)

what

hell nah

for a weakpoint?

that would make gking the same value of weakpoints thats dumb

[astral hamlet]

heavy gks are harder to get than weak point breaks, which are harder to get than fodder gks

hence the 3-2-1 scaling

[pearl pollen]

and the hammer out of 6?

[astral hamlet]

Ye

[pearl pollen]

that sounds good

[astral hamlet]

Well thank you

[pearl pollen]

np twin

[astral hamlet]

the what now

[austere bronze]

i don't like making GKs charge the hammer because current-day GKs are very avoidable, and making them significantly more incentivized feels very meh
also i think what the hammer does needs to be fundamentally changed

this is all kinda speculative since i can't actually try it out, but make the hammer require 4 points, you get 0,5pts from fodder headshot kills and weak points, and you get 1pt from heavy headshot kills

then the hammer's range is halved, its damage is halved, equipment doesn't increase drops, and it hard falters instead of stunning

the point system? i also thought about that but it really isn't very complex

[desert shadow]

hello

[austere bronze]

hi

[desert shadow]

does anyone here wanna play 2016 doom multiplayer w me?

trying to 100 percent on steam

[austere bronze]

you're in the eternal chat😭

[desert shadow]

theres no one in the 2016 chat lol

you didnt get my point but fine

[visual mirage]

Wait…
You dont like watching the same animation play again and again?? 🤨

[desert shadow]

yuhr

[smoky cedar]

Too specific. Idm if it’s glory kills cause how often do you get those anyway

[pearl pollen]

this sounds good

[austere bronze]

dam yeah i'm kinda weird
i actually don't like having an animation i've watched 50 times shoved down my throat in a movement shooter

[pearl pollen]

i js think glory kills are already perfect

the nerfs to the hammer are necessary too

way too strong makes the chainsaw borderline unused

they nerfed the hammer in horde mode and it was fine

2 -> 4 wkp/gk

[austere bronze]

dude nothing will get nerfed😭 the devs won't pop in the chat and say "really good idea, let us make a new update implementing this"

this is just all speculative for how the hammer should've worked

[pearl pollen]

yeah this is all hypothetical

why are you talking about balancing the hammer if you’ve never used the hammer

😭😭

ppl do that?

js skip dlcs and play hordemode

[austere bronze]

yeah, some people say that the infrequency of the hammer if it requires 8 charges is enough
but the hammer is just way op, each time you use it it'd be a massive get out of jail free

[austere bronze]

if you don't own the dlcs yeah

[pearl pollen]

didn’t know that

[pearl pollen]

yeah the primary issue is that you use it, it fills up all your ammo, armor, and health if you use your equipment, does massive damage, stuns everything it DOESNT kill, and neutralizes marauders

the fact its cheap just makes it even more powerful

but wven if its expensive it still does allat

yeah

smth like that

the equipment buffs

[austere bronze]

i feel like health is already much more of a scarcity than armor, so making another way to get only armor feels eh

but yea removing ammo definitely works

[distant quiver]

That's a tough one.

[visual mirage]

Mouse1

[half lotus]

Good job

[buoyant jackal]

Don't make the therapist need a therapist

[devout shadow]

Congratulations

*congratulation

[rough moon]

Best game ever.

[pearl pollen]

real

[limpid bolt]

I was thinking perhaps the hammer also depletes all existing grenade/ice bomb/blood punch/chainsaw/flame belch charges upon use

Since it basically does the job of all those things anyway

[haughty imp]

Anyone wanna play some battle mode?

I have some trophies to finish

[distant quiver]

Congrats! Nightmare is no joke. I’ve tried a few times but I always end up crawling back to Ultra-Violence, lmao. Mad respect!

[astral hamlet]

[distant quiver]

If you can't find anything here, try asking the Spicy Demons in their server. Check out the #battlemode channel for a link. I play on Switch, and that's comfortably active, so you will probably find more activity in the PlayStation corner. I'm assuming you're PlayStation.

[haughty imp]

Yeah I'm ps thx

[distant quiver]

My pleasure!

[storm eagle]

I love doing a UN run and then dying right in the middle of a fucking glory kill. H8 my lyfe

[distant quiver]

I'm so sorry, bro.

[storm eagle]

Thank you. Only this community knows the pain of such things 😭

🥀⚰️

[astral hamlet]

[gritty mica]

I know more pain than any cod player

[storm eagle]

call of doodie

[gritty mica]

That's what they should've called it from warzone onwards

[distant quiver]

I do. I haven't picked it up lately, but, yeah. I'm all in on the Switch version.

[storm eagle]

idk about that one lol. But the good ones yes

The Eternal chat in here is pretty supportive, it's nice

[gritty mica]

Most of us are based and veterans

[storm eagle]

🙂 that's awesome

[gritty mica]

That's what happened when I joined last year, and now I know posting pizza memes is incredibly offensive to lgbtq for some reason

[civic pivot]

they should buff the marauder he goes down in 3 combos

in exchange maybe fix the dog spawning when enemies hit him

[austere bronze]

yeah, he's easy to kill, like all other demons lol

he isn't supposed to be an unkillable tank

[austere bronze]

that would be really nice😭

[astral hamlet]

bruh

[visual mirage]

k

[distant quiver]

Whoa. Bro.

Differently? LMAOOOO

[drifting crescent]

lil bro try ragebait

[visual mirage]

Who?

[drifting crescent]

welp cry about it

[hoary portal]

And other hilarious jokes you can tell your friends and family

[distant quiver]

Ragebait is cool and all, but maybe shitting on queer ppl goes a bit too far.

[drifting crescent]

yea I know

[distant quiver]

Yeah...

[hoary portal]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

[drifting crescent]

maybe call mods or smthng?

[distant quiver]

I was considering.

[drifting crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-rogan-chips-gif-25122817

[visual mirage]

Imagine being proud of being a trash human being

[drifting crescent]

oh look

[distant quiver]

Right?

[drifting crescent]

wdym bro

[hoary portal]

Dudes just 14 years old and being edgy for the sake of being edgy

[drifting crescent]

calling people trash is just too much

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-snack-wrap-fast-food-commercial-mcdonalds-snack-wrap-gif-25195857

[distant quiver]

LMAO

[drifting crescent]

try snackwrap instead

[austere bronze]

i literally LOLed when reading this! omg dude, that's a very original joke!

[distant quiver]

/s

[visual mirage]

didnt expect less from a nudoom fan

[hoary portal]

Let me guess, he hates furries too

[drifting crescent]

god of roasts

[drifting crescent]

in alternative universe

[distant quiver]

Furries just do their own thing, and that's cool. And some of them play Doom Eternal too, just like the girls, gays, and theys. Everyone!

[austere bronze]

me? absolutely😎

[drifting crescent]

nah

you're god of chicken nuggets

[hoary portal]

I feel like everyone came to this conclusion after they turned 16 lmao

[drifting crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/skibi-di-gif-10372807632773483652

[distant quiver]

Right? lol

[austere bronze]

pretty much

[hoary portal]

Mmmm some delicious KFC chicken nu- HOLY FUCKING SHIT GUYS DID YOU JUST SEE THAT

[distant quiver]

LOL

[visual mirage]

amongus

[drifting crescent]

VIZ IZ AMONGUS IMPOSTA IN RIAAAL LAIFEEEE!1!1!!1!!!1!11!

wait

forgot to add

[sturdy zenith]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[clear matrix]

cant you just click 🟪 on it to see

[humble marlin]

hi chat

the weapon that demonic troopers carry looks cool

[austere bronze]

hi halfawake, again

[austere bronze]

just sad they are so fragile

[humble marlin]

how r u

[visual mirage]

they used to be even more fragile🥲

[humble marlin]

the whole immora asthetic is peak

[humble marlin]

really?

[visual mirage]

Wish they would have kept the red sky from the concept arts

[humble marlin]

I'm so close to beating TAG 2 UN

I'm on immora rn

[visual mirage]

They died from a single shot from the heavy cannon

[humble marlin]

that sounds insane

[visual mirage]

Meathooking into them would also kill them

[astral hamlet]

immora is chill
just don't choke the dark lord boss fight

like me

[humble marlin]

ok I'm on the boss fight

I'm gonna practice it on normal nightmare mode

[humble marlin]

YES omg I've done that before

I was sooo pissed

I'm gonna get it this time

[austere bronze]

i'm like good i think

how bout chu

[humble marlin]

worrying

I really don't wanna fail davoth again

Just practicing the boss fight before I do it in UN

[astral hamlet]

you got this

[civic pivot]

who tf thought putting a marauder in an area with tons of shooting fodder and fog is a great idea

[astral hamlet]

I think it being obnoxious was the whole point honestly

[distant quiver]

Was that TAG 2?

[civic pivot]

no super gore nest ml

[distant quiver]

Oh! Of course, lol. Sorry you are dealing with that rn

[civic pivot]

the whiplash silhouette in the fog makes it look like a horror game

[austere bronze]

annoying ass arena

[civic pivot]

they want me to beat this on UN for some shotgun skin😔

[haughty juniper]

guys

ballista stunning for marauder is technically illegal

cuz ur not waiting for it to be green light

i beat world spear on un on nintendo 🥺

but immediately died to cursed prowler

woops

[civic pivot]

then they put invisible whiplashes who made this

[haughty juniper]

😭

[icy gulch]

Marauders are such an annoying design it's ok

Completely ruined ancient gods for me lol

[austere bronze]

you mean feet ballista?

[storm eagle]

rocket redirect is king

[civic pivot]

can someone send me gameplay of them beating sgn ml so that i dont go insane

on nightmare or un

[icy gulch]

Who the fuck is sgn

[civic pivot]

super gore nest

[icy gulch]

😩

[austere bronze]

plobbus the goat🙏
https://youtu.be/Wme45-o3XcE?si=uBTwmpWInXwdgwg9

[astral hamlet]

no health damage

goddamn beast

[austere bronze]

i've thought about doing something like tjat but never got to it

[sullen owl]

Sgn ml is prolly the easiest modern ml there is

[austere bronze]

arc complex and cultist base:

wait i'm dum nvm lmao

[sullen owl]

Taras nabad and world spear was ass

Mars core was nice

[civic pivot]

arc complex easier

[astral hamlet]

sgn is easily the best modern ML too

[astral hamlet]

keyword modern

arc complex/cultist base were released very early

[visual mirage]

first gimmicky ml

[sullen owl]

Ye

It's a lot more gimmicky than taras nabad

[astral hamlet]

uhhhh

[civic pivot]

atleast the ost keeps me going🙏

[sullen owl]

Tons of "fuck you" encounters instead of proper arena ones

[astral hamlet]

double archviles behind an orange wall feels kinda gimmicky

[sullen owl]

That and the coin room is the only gimmicky part of taras nabad

[austere bronze]

not really though

[astral hamlet]

but I always thought sgn had a good mix of fun open arenas and constricted areas

so maybe I'm biased

[visual mirage]

dunno what were they thinking with that

[austere bronze]

so sad when the archviles are allowed to use their mechanics instead of being obliterated immediately

more fun too imo

[visual mirage]

u can literally cheese the arena with the bfg

[civic pivot]

the whole levels tell me to fuck off vro at this point i gotta switch to uv😔

[astral hamlet]

you can cheese everything with the bfg

[austere bronze]

yeah, but you can cheese the entire level with a zip boost or something too

[astral hamlet]

yeah it's sad
sad for my ass getting destroyed over and over

[civic pivot]

and it gotta be all in a play session i can’t even save ts

[austere bronze]

this arena is special because the bfg tendrils can kill the archviles through the orange wall

[astral hamlet]

yeah I know

[visual mirage]

sgn triple archvile was way more fun and challenging when they were more spread out

[astral hamlet]

true true

such a fun arena

they got space to teleport around and it gets pretty frantic trying to stop the summons

[austere bronze]

i prefer the tn double archie room

[visual mirage]

now you can just use db to deal with the three of them easily

[civic pivot]

does anyone find this fun

[austere bronze]

the double archies?

[astral hamlet]

the archvile room in taras nabad? personally no
the triple archvile arena in sgn? yeah

[civic pivot]

does anyone find the sgn encounters fun

[astral hamlet]

all of them except the fog + marauder one

[austere bronze]

almost all of them

[civic pivot]

besides the first arena everything is a fuck you

yall find the carcass encounter fun??

[astral hamlet]

well I guess not fun per se
it's just meathook/blood punch city

[austere bronze]

more specific?

[civic pivot]

carcass and tentacle spam after first arena

[austere bronze]

oh yeah that's kinda boring

and the arena after is annoying as hell

otherwise almost all major arenas are fun

[astral hamlet]

fog + invisible whiplashes + marauder/mecha zombies

F U N

[civic pivot]

the invisible whiplashes in the fog make it look like a horror game

[austere bronze]

just needed the spectre marauder too

[astral hamlet]

then it becomes a horror game for the whiplashes when you pull out the d blade

[civic pivot]

wish me luck i’m at the marauder fog thing

[astral hamlet]

good luck

[civic pivot]

atleast the fodder fuels my armor and health

[visual mirage]

that fight was so fun when the marauder couldnt get falter on slopes

[astral hamlet]

marauders and stairs
name a more iconic duo

[civic pivot]

marauder and dog

[austere bronze]

doom eternal and bugs

[visual mirage]

beta testing the game for two years straight was so fun

im honestly jealous of those that started playing the game recently

[astral hamlet]

here's hoping TDA will end up taking less time to get to a polished state

[austere bronze]

yay for not having played eternal before the last patch lol

[astral hamlet]

same same

[visual mirage]

From the looks of it it seems its going to be the same thing with tda

Literally took them like three updates to fix the thing with the berserk achievement

[astral hamlet]

well let's be honest, eternal set a really low bar when it comes to bugs

so hoping tda is better in that regard is fairly realistic

[visual mirage]

And I've already seen three mods that seem to fix new bugs introduced with the recent patches

[civic pivot]

sgn ml is the most tedious thing the game has to offer

[astral hamlet]

who's gonna tell him

[civic pivot]

every arena is designed to be tedious and tells you to go fuck yourself

[austere bronze]

why?

[civic pivot]

idk i aint make it

[astral hamlet]

no he means why do you think they're all tedious

[civic pivot]

do i even have to explain myself

[astral hamlet]

I mean yeah there is some annoying stuff there

[civic pivot]

it looks as if it was made by a player who put everything he could

[austere bronze]

so it's annoying because of the amount of demons?

that's just what happens when you make things harder

and sgn doesn't have the most demon packed arenas out of even the un-modded master levels

[astral hamlet]

I've honestly heard a bunch of people say sgn is their favorite master level

[civic pivot]

it’s not even about the demons it’s that the environment is hand picked to be tedious at every corner, the demons picked based on the arena to make it tedious and i’m talking about demon types besides the fact they spawn a ton of them

[stoic basalt]

Who up doomin it rn

[astral hamlet]

what makes it tedious?

honest question, not trying to be sarcastic here

[civic pivot]

depends on arena

[austere bronze]

the sgn ml did a decent job at choosing demons that exploit the environment to the player's disadvantage
i personally think that's good gamr design

[civic pivot]

yeah thanks for finding my words

[austere bronze]

that's just choosing the correct demons for the environment though

otherwise to match the difficulty you'd have less interesting encounters with more demons in them

[astral hamlet]

yeah this is just eternal in a nutshell
master levels and dlc just do it more often and more aggressively

[austere bronze]

i think the increase in small arenas just allows the ML to accentuate this aspect

because in large arenas you can circumvent this to a larger degree

[visual mirage]

i wish there were more earth levels

[austere bronze]

as no one enemy has an equally large impact on the player

[visual mirage]

I would have prefered that reclaimed earth ml hugo talked on the streams over world spear

[astral hamlet]

wdym
a lot of the levels in the game are set on earth
hell on earth, cultist base, doom hunter base, sgn, arc complex, final sin, uac atlantica, reclaimed earth

I might be missing one

[austere bronze]

for sure

[scenic axle]

Go play Taras nabad and world spear mls

[austere bronze]

hi chicken guy

[civic pivot]

this is so bad

my problem is it doesn’t save because rn it’s late but if i go i gotta restart

[austere bronze]

oh yeah sucks

[pseudo kindle]

I wish we'd have both ;-; I hope id goes back and fulfills their promise of doing more master levels

I love the dark ages but I just wish we had more black-belt level content in Eternal

[austere bronze]

cbt master level

[civic pivot]

does anyone here have golden shotgun skin

[astral hamlet]

too late for that now I fear

[pseudo kindle]

yuh

it's sick but I run classic all day

[astral hamlet]

yeah classic shotgun is the way to go

[civic pivot]

i’m asking because how tf do you beat sgn ml on un

[pseudo kindle]

be goated

[civic pivot]

ok🙏😔

[astral hamlet]

people are very good at this game

[pseudo kindle]

i'm kinda joking LMAO

[austere bronze]

be nerd

[pseudo kindle]

it's a matter of knowing the map, all of its surprises, and also just being good at the game

[astral hamlet]

zero master has a good run up

[civic pivot]

there are so many enemies that are picked depending on the map so that it’s worse for you

[pseudo kindle]

because once you know the map, run through it a bunch and it's like a stroll on a nice sunny day

[astral hamlet]

his playstyle always felt more realistic to me because every other doomtuber kinda just quickswaps at light speed

[civic pivot]

i wanna watch a game journalist play this

[pseudo kindle]

that's applicable to all of Eternal's level design, or just Doom in general. everything is designed to fuck you over so you need to play around it

[civic pivot]

i don’t know the base campaign doesn’t seem to do it

only tag and mls

[astral hamlet]

it does

it's just less obvious

[pseudo kindle]

yeah

also SGN is typically the 'clicking' point for everyone

[astral hamlet]

sgn is such a good level man

[pseudo kindle]

yk where you actually start to get good

[austere bronze]

yeah because those things are supposed to be harder, so they are made to be harder

[plucky swallow]

i wish tag 2 was harder

[austere bronze]

tru

[pseudo kindle]

we all do

I think WS ML proves that designing around the hammer would've been the best approach TAG2 could have taken

because a weapon so powerful and so easy to get should primarily be applicable to such deadly arenas

[astral hamlet]

yeah even without the hammer tag2 is easier than tag1
world spear needs to be more conventionally difficult and less full of gimmicks
reclaimed earth felt like a tough difficulty without the hammer, but I'm sure it's way too easy if you abuse it
and immora was just sad

[austere bronze]

tag2 didn't just need better encounter design, but arena design

[pseudo kindle]

Reclaimed Earth was only hard because of those last few arenas imo

[astral hamlet]

yeah true

[astral hamlet]

yeah too many gimmicks, not enough tough arenas

[austere bronze]

tag2's arenas are extremely homogeneous while missing the multi-layered encounters from the previous campaigns

it makes the AI less deadly and leads to uninteresting encounters

[astral hamlet]

now that I think about it yeah
they all kinda felt like battlemode arenas of sorts

[austere bronze]

just look at the amount of large and flat arenas😭 and those that aren't that are generally still worse

[kind basin]

I mean I still find them fun

But ye not as varied

[austere bronze]

and i kinda think the new demons weren't that good because they were almost never used lol

[astral hamlet]

the funniest was the immora escalation encounter
you could just bounce up and down on the jump pads and snipe everything from like 100m above the arena

[pseudo kindle]

the highlight of Immora was definitely the double marauder + screecher combo

[austere bronze]

well yeah, the base-combat is extremely fun
but if the combat was on par with the hammer, new enemies, and arenas it probably wouldn't be super fun

[kind basin]

What abt the master level

[astral hamlet]

[kind basin]

Did that do anything for y'all

[pseudo kindle]

you become a lot more careful especially on UN

[astral hamlet]

drove me insane yeah

[austere bronze]

what about it?

[pseudo kindle]

I went from ballista SSG to PB SSG lmfao

[pseudo kindle]

like wdym

as in how the WS ML used the new demons?

[kind basin]

The master level didn't it use the hammer pretty well?

[pseudo kindle]

it makes you use the hammer a lot yeah because you feel almost pressured to

[kind basin]

I mean it was hard

[pseudo kindle]

with the insane scaling of the arenas

[kind basin]

I think Horde mode did it best

Just increase the steps to get the hammer

[civic pivot]

do yall also like tyrants

[pseudo kindle]

I think it helps more that the WS ML utilized both the new demons and unique environmental hazards

[kind basin]

Design wise no but I love to bully them

[pseudo kindle]

they're fun to dump bullets into but possessed/buffed variants are way more fun to fight

[astral hamlet]

depends on how they're used

[austere bronze]

the hammer is fundamentally badly designed for many reasons, making stuff hard to accommodate for it isn't going to fix that

[astral hamlet]

it disrupts the combat loop too much honestly

[kind basin]

Maaaybe lower the resources gained??

It's super fun for a reason

[astral hamlet]

yeah it is really fun

[pseudo kindle]

I think the armor/health++ from hammer is kind of ridiculous

[austere bronze]

here's what i'd do to the hammer:
make it require 4 points to charge, fodder headshot kills and weakpoint destruction is 0,5 points, heavy headshot kills is 1 point

then half the damage it deals, remove ammo drops, drastically decrease armor drops and decrease health drops, and make the stun a hard falter

[pseudo kindle]

I'd decrease the amount of health and armor gained when you freeze flame and hammer, maybe just remove that increase completely and just make the hammer squeeze everything out of everyone

[kind basin]

Alr ye fair

[pseudo kindle]

I was thinking the ammo drop aspect of it makes no sense

because you already have the chainsaw and it's not hard to find a fodder demon

[austere bronze]

ideally though, just replace it with the sentinel axe mod from toyota lol

[astral hamlet]

heavy headshot kills are really annoying to get

[austere bronze]

precisely why it's one point

[astral hamlet]

yeah this tbh

[kind basin]

No no funny bonk better

Bonk

[austere bronze]

the sentinel axe integrates into combat better

[kind basin]

No no

[pseudo kindle]

what does the axe do

[kind basin]

B O N K

[astral hamlet]

I'm surprised nobody has made a mod for the hammer that makes the metal pipe sound when you slam it down yet

[austere bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpTDWqVz2NU

throw and it goes sploosh

it activates FSE

instantly breaks doom hunter and armored baron armor

hard falters on direct hit

[kind basin]

No bonk

[austere bronze]

800 damage on direct hit

takes 1 point to charge, 0,5 gained from weakpoint destruction and 1 from headshot kills

[astral hamlet]

charges instantly from a headshot kill?
hell yeah

[kind basin]

But BONK

[civic pivot]

do i keep my crucible for later arenas

i can’t get past this cyber mancubus pain elemental baron spam slop

[astral hamlet]

of course you do

why wouldn't you have it

[civic pivot]

like do i keep the uses

ofc ima have it

[astral hamlet]

well if you use a charge you don't get it back lol

[civic pivot]

ik

[astral hamlet]

but i dunno if there are any crucible pickups

it should just show up on the automap

[pseudo kindle]

that's actually reasonable because it doesn't do much in relativity

the hammer is this like absolute godsend that takes absolutely no time to charge up

[austere bronze]

yeah

[austere wigeon]

Hi :3

[austere bronze]

hi

kinda unsure bout what to play in eternal

[humble marlin]

tag 2 UN complete!

[austere wigeon]

thought i was gonna get cooked in this chat

guess not :3

[austere bronze]

why lol

[austere bronze]

helll yeaa!

[astral hamlet]

let's goooo

[civic pivot]

does anyone know what to do to annihilate 3 barons with like 100 fodder around

[humble marlin]

might be my favorite slayer skin in the game ngl

[civic pivot]

no bfg or crucible

[austere bronze]

just move around a ton and restack

it's a very large arena

and then quick swap if you wanna make it go quicker

[civic pivot]

that’s what i’m doing but it’s boring asf and then i die after killing the last baron to some fodder

[astral hamlet]

well I hate to say it
but if you've already killed the three barons and you die to some fodder then you kinda deserve to redo the fight

[civic pivot]

maybe😔🙏

but like right after i killed him

like the second after

[humble marlin]

should I focus on campaign or tag 1 UN

[austere bronze]

whatever you want i suppose

[humble marlin]

which one is harder

[austere bronze]

base game generally

[humble marlin]

Alright

[civic pivot]

finally beat ts arena and got the bfg ammo back

and i gotta do this 2 more times with worse enemies don’t i

😔

what the fuck is this

2 tyrants and 1 doom hunter and the arena is small asf

[pseudo kindle]

just freeze the doom hunter then do ssg bp ssg and lob, then mag dump on the tyrant

[civic pivot]

i got past that and now it’s spamming buffed fodder

[lusty lark]

What level are you playing

[civic pivot]

sgn ml

what am i supposed to do against the buffed gargoyle spam @pseudo kindle

[austere bronze]

spam stickies or something

[pseudo kindle]

kill shit until the buff totem's shield lowers

you can use stickies, PB headshots

if you have distance then rockets never hurt

[civic pivot]

k thx

[pseudo kindle]

obviously BP

[civic pivot]

but how does pb help when it’s more single target focused

[austere bronze]

headshot blast

[civic pivot]

i don’t think i have mastery

nvm i do

thx

i could smell the arena

marauder tight space

[warm heath]

lmao

[civic pivot]

i have to fight in the toxic water??

i’m turn this down to uv it’s 1 am

and i can’t do that so

[austere bronze]

time to head to bed

i just got off because there wasn't really anything i felt like playing

[visual mirage]

full auto room

[civic pivot]

can someone tell me what to do in the toxic water room

the problem is the pinky and mancubus part

they spam and kill me so quick i can’t do shit

[austere bronze]

i can't think of any specific strategy to succeed there

other than playing very well... but that's not really a strat lol

[ripe sierra]

ngl I think cultist base is lowk the hardest mission in eternal

if ur playing by campaign

cuz u have such less weapons and face such good opponents

[civic pivot]

i give up it’s a mission for another time

[astral hamlet]

FRAG GRENADES

spam frag and flame belch

[astral hamlet]

I would agree

[astral hamlet]

Nooooo

[humble marlin]

gotta do SGN to get the gold shotgun

complete my gold weapon set

I've never done UN on a master level before

[astral hamlet]

Best of luck
I can’t really stay focused long enough to do UN of anything lol

[ripe sierra]

too little gear to do anything rly

like the only thing u can do is js get the quick swap rune

and pb rocket the whole lvl

and then use like ssg pb at the end

[astral hamlet]

3 mancs in the arena right after you get the rocket launcher is insanity

[ripe sierra]

like if u cant do pb rocket its js game over

[warm heath]

for me everything is a breeze after getting pb

I mean in cultist

[ripe sierra]

i lowk hella underestimated nightmare

[humble marlin]

what level r yall talking about

[ripe sierra]

cultist base

[humble marlin]

oh yeah

[ripe sierra]

saying its the hardest main lvl if ur following campaign

[humble marlin]

it's tough

[ripe sierra]

honestly im js gonna spam pb rocket

[humble marlin]

I'm genuinely starting to love remote detonate

[timber cipher]

Replaying doom eternal and apparently i just realized if you have your crucible in hand, and press right click you can actually blood punch

never knew that

[pearl pollen]

learn smth new everyday

[pearl pollen]

yeah most would agree

[timber cipher]

definetly

the level is a nightmare on nightmare difficulty and that is where most of my un runs end

atleast they had the platforming in the doom hunter base to calm you down

from all that cultist base chaos

[astral hamlet]

That one section of doom hunter base with the electrified walls and the narrow ledges is absolute nonsense though

[ripe sierra]

like the floaty area

yeah i hate that

i alwass use extra lives by accident

[humble marlin]

the skull face slayer skin is so fucking dope

[pearl pollen]

ive died thrice on the gladiator for UN

anything i should know

?

[gusty ocean]

alr first time playing doom TDA

yea it feels like the easiest doom

NO WAY I JUST NOTICED THE FREAKY IMP HAS ARCH VILE SOUNDS

[light elbow]

I love these master levels.. on hurt me plenty 😆

[gusty ocean]

alr i didnt say nothin

still easier than eternal

[pearl pollen]

u gotta crank the sliders to max if u want difficulty

[gusty ocean]

that sounds like hell

[hardy umbra]

It's actually tons of fun. Makes you really need mastery of the combat system

[astral hamlet]

which one are you doing now

[light elbow]

Taras Nabad and I spoke too soon. Im about to close out the game i gotta get to sleep 😅 i cant get past the enclosed room arena.

[astral hamlet]

bro

[light elbow]

I can feel myself getting worse

[astral hamlet]

that's the hardest one lmao (out of the base campaign master levels)

[light elbow]

I did them in the order they're listed 😅

[astral hamlet]

I don't actually remember the order they're listed in

have you done any of the other ones?

[light elbow]

Thank you, I felt really bad. It's soon much. I cant get past the buff totem part

[astral hamlet]

that room might be the first or second hardest room in the game without using the bfg honestly

[light elbow]

I have only done three others, I think, I only see 4

[astral hamlet]

ah ok

so you did the other ones first

what did you think?

[light elbow]

I wasted my BFG ammo by mistake 😅 before I entered this room.... I always do that when im panic swapping 🥴

[astral hamlet]

damn

[light elbow]

I really enjoyed Gore Nest because of how open it is!

[astral hamlet]

that's my favorite ML

and the three archviles at the end was just insanity

[light elbow]

Yes!

[astral hamlet]

on my first nightmare playthrough I was absolutely scrambling until I realized the crucible was a thing

[light elbow]

I might plat that one again before I give this one another go. My hands are t

Omg I have the crucible

[astral hamlet]

it's so easy to forget about it

[light elbow]

I haven't used it. OmG

[gusty ocean]

i also forget i have the crucible

and the bfg at times

[light elbow]

I mean, I haven't used it on this map today

Okay ill try two more times then im getting off!

Hit V Sylvia

[formal glen]

Ehm

<@&162901871168585728>

[storm eagle]

thank you

[austere bronze]

super based!

[torn sedge]

how did vega come back in eternal if he was fried in 2016

[gritty mica]

His AI was backed up and put in a USB drive

[nimble marten]

are the maykr shotgun and rocket launcher skins event only? 😭

[nimble marten]

bro got the sandisk 64GB treatment before the VEGA core got the electrical engineering treatment

[gritty mica]

Nah, Xbox 360 500gb hard drive for the slim

[nimble marten]

nah
64gb is enough for vega
maybe 128 gb for when he gets the Fatherhood update

[gritty mica]

Or the snapmap update

[nimble marten]

he doesn't need to be there
he not paid enough for that

[gritty mica]

Lol

[nimble marten]

behold
the true suffering of the Slayer in #screenshots

[full harness]

nice pdp guys

[merry spindle]

Yo i'm new to the server, has anyone here beaten all the master level challenges on Doom Eternal? Specifically on playstation?

[civic pivot]

yall think i can do mars core ml nightmare

[austere bronze]

probably a bit harder than sgn

[civic pivot]

i watched a video and it looks like it just throws everything it can at you

[warm heath]

well idk how good you are but the hardest part for me was the last arena, only due to being long

even tho I died more times on the other arenas

well actually idk now I forgot

[rugged flax]

Have you done it on uv

[civic pivot]

i haven’t touched it yet

[rugged flax]

Well try it on uv first

[civic pivot]

k

[rugged flax]

You know so u know what is in store for u

[hoary halo]

im playing horde mode on nightmare on a nintendo switch, wish my console good luck

[nimble marten]

if i just do the slayer gate in Holt and leave after i beat it, will it mark it as achieved?
{Assuming i'vealready beaten the entire rest of the DLC before}

cause i don't wanna deal with with samur after that slayer gate 😭

[nimble marten]

HOLY CHRIST I FINISHED IT

SPIRIT MARAUDER HELLO????

OH COME ON NOW THE SUPPORT RUNE IS BUGGED?

finally

god im done
goobye holt
goobye sammy maykr
never come near me again

....all that for a title?
yup im definitely done with tag1
UN isn't even worth it on this

[rugged flax]

Tag1 was bs

[nimble marten]

TAG1 is like
"Hey did you finish UN base game and UN tag2? Did you think they were hard? Oh boy, buckle your arse"

I genuinely think i'd find the slayer gate fun if not for the spirit marauder
the ai gets so broken it doesn't make sense to even try to fight it

Honestly if the totem buff/spirit buff/screech buff just made marauders ATTACK faster and harder and not literally turn into speedsters, it would probably fix a lot of their issues
cause their speed just ends up ith them in your face
giving you no recourse but to eat buckshot over and over

[rugged flax]

Yeah the marauder on crack is not fun

[astral hamlet]

Mars core is significantly harder than sgn (also significantly more annoying imo)

[astral hamlet]

I do love when a point blank ballista shot just doesn’t falter him for whatever reason

[civic pivot]

what’s y’all’s lvl

[astral hamlet]

uhh no idea
but I have like 150 hours in the game

[nimble marten]

140 or smth

ii've about 240 hoursin game

[astral hamlet]

ok I'm level 76 just checked

[austere bronze]

one star and 50 maybe

[humble marlin]

Just hit 170 last night

[humble marlin]

what's a star?

[austere bronze]

you get one unce you surpass lvl 250

you can get a total of 48 stars

you can get 8 "stone" stars, then you get one bronze, after 8 of those it's one silver, and then that pattern to gold, diamond, and slayer which is red

so i have about 300 levels

which is very low for over 1200 hours on the game lol

[humble marlin]

Ohhhh

[austere bronze]

so the max is level 12 000 lmao

[humble marlin]

I wonder why ur lvls so low

I'm at like 7 days of playtime at lvl 170

[astral hamlet]

oh so you're at like level 300 then lmao

[haughty juniper]

i swear i have infinite accuracy when it comes to every other demon on nintendo but when marauder comes i SELLLLLLL

how to do slob on nintendo 🤔

[astral hamlet]

honestly same

suddenly lose the ability to ssg ballista for no reason

[haughty juniper]

the only way i can technically once cycle marauder rn is run around and glory killing fodders

to fill hammer

[silent inlet]

I love doom

[austere bronze]

same

[haughty juniper]

same

[humble marlin]

same

[austere bronze]

same concept as for PC, just nintendo's respective inputs

[haughty juniper]

but then the look speed isnt that fast tho

[silent inlet]

tbf if your in this server and you DONT like doom then idk what to tell you\

[languid sand]

FINALLY got around to playing the ancient gods, can't believe I left it so long this is fantastic

[humble marlin]

I like dark ages more

[haughty juniper]

well

first i do the lob and look to the left

and then i try to look right fast enough

and ballista him

[languid sand]

What do you prefer about dark ages?

[haughty juniper]

but then as i said i have no accuracy

when it comes to mrauader

soooooooo

[austere bronze]

oh you're trying to do lob redirects? not slob?

[haughty juniper]

yeah

slob is basically impossible on nintendo

[austere bronze]

the key is to mod swap cancel out of the lob

[haughty juniper]

hhuh

wait what im tryna do is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3IzeRKFguI

[humble marlin]

I think eternal is a better game, but I just personally prefer the level design and the combat, since it's alot like classic doom

[languid sand]

thats fair

[humble marlin]

eternal has very vertical level design while dark ages is more horizontal

[nimble marten]

I tried slobbing once then gave up my 32fps ass is NOT doing complex combos in this game
decided to just do him the slow way so my game doesn't crash

[austere bronze]

oh this particular combo is way more advanced than it looks
at least if you wanna do exactly what's going on there

it combines lob redirect, rocketless SLOB, and BATS

[languid sand]

I started off not liking dark ages, but I think its a good game, just not great in terms of its identity as a doom game (shitty glory kills, mid music etc). It is a lot of fun to play tho

[humble marlin]

gotta try this on controller

[humble marlin]

yeah that's fair, eternal has better music I'd say

[languid sand]

dark ages does have some bangers dont get me wrong, blood red, transdimentional, into the void

👌

[haughty juniper]

well not slob

[humble marlin]

eternal has so much content, that's why I've been playing it lately, but I already have like 250 hrs on dark ages

[haughty juniper]

js tryna do the redirect part

bats is gonna take some insane timing on nintendo

[humble marlin]

eternal has a super high skill ceiling too

[languid sand]

one thing i like about dark ages is how FAST you are, going back to eternal (before you get double dash) you feel like youre in quicksand lmao

[humble marlin]

yeah man, it's like your just running through enemies

like a tank

[civic pivot]

i feel like everyone forgot about doom till tda released

each time a new doom game is out people replay the older ones aswell

[astral hamlet]

definitely not lmao

[languid sand]

when i saw dark ages announced I went and played TNT and plutonia for the first time lmao

[fallow zephyr]

now,i killed "icon of sin". i have many happy. doomguy is eternal

[civic pivot]

ray tracer or makyr skin for ballista

[haughty juniper]

noooooo nintendo doom eternal doesnt have ray tracing

idk i cant find the option

[kind basin]

Ye it's to avoid terrorist attacks

[nimble marten]

I GOT THE MAYKR RL SKIN OMG
Now its just the shotgun until divine perfection is achieved

[nimble marten]

oh my god the combat shotgun skin really is event exclusive
im gonna cry

[astral hamlet]

are you on console?

[full pecan]

How do I remove the capsule collection animations from the first levels?

[visual mirage]

weapon switching

[civic pivot]

the ssg makyr skin isn’t event exclusive

[astral hamlet]

combat shotgun, not ssg

[nimble marten]

Laptop

[civic pivot]

ohh

[astral hamlet]

oh then just get the unlocker mod

it's not worth messing around with the events to get the skins you want

[nimble marten]

I have a mod that gives the entire arsenal Maykr skins but doesn't unlock it for the ones that already have them ig I'm getting the unlocker tomorrow

[civic pivot]

the makyr shotgun skin isn’t that good imo

[nimble marten]

It's not, but it completes my set and full Maykr look

[full pecan]

How do I remove the capsule pickup animation from Chapter 2?

[full pecan]

thanks it worked

[nimble marten]

Couldn't find this on nexus, do you know of a link by any chance?

[astral hamlet]

https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1118

[nimble marten]

I have this 😭
It didn't unlock the Maykr shotgun skin for me 💀

[astral hamlet]

Oof

[nimble marten]

It's wild cause I have literally everything Maykr except combat shotgun now
Welp
I'll try reinstalling it tomorrow tysm

[tardy cedar]

Hi! Does anyone here have the zombie slayer skin? I think my account is bugging out lol

[distant quiver]

Is that the one from Slayer Club?

[tardy cedar]

Yeah

[distant quiver]

Hm. I never had problems with it. I just had to connect my Bethesda account to my Switch. But that was a while ago, so idk if something has changed now. Maybe someone else will have more insight. Or you can probably send a support ticket to Bethesda or something.

Sorry I can't be of more help. I would just say to make sure your Bethesda account is all link up. That you aren't accidently connected to a second account or whatever. I used to have that problem with my EA account.

[tardy cedar]

I linked my accounts too, but I think it’s because I don’t have PS+ so I can’t play online? I’m not sure

[pallid roost]

that’s precisely why

[distant quiver]

Really?

[tardy cedar]

Well that sucks

[distant quiver]

Yeah, like, I've always had my Switch Online membership. But I didn't think it was necessary to connect Eternal to the Bethesda servers. That's so weird.

[tardy cedar]

Would it work if I just got the free trial and then never touched it again?

[distant quiver]

That might be worth a shot, so that you don't have to dish out the cash to find out that it still doesn't work. I think the trial will be a good idea. Get the trial, see if the skin is granted to you, and if not, then contact support about the issue.

[tardy cedar]

K, will do! Thank you both!

[distant quiver]

❤️

[nova dome]

Hey is anyone willing to help me get some milestones for battle mode I've been grinfding nonstop for this whole week and last week and I've not even come close to some of the weirder ones

[gusty ocean]

FINALLY BEAT THE VAGARY CHAMPION

those mancubi were the real bosses

NO WAY ITS SERRAT

[cerulean jolt]

Ok

[kind basin]

Bruh wrong chat

[gusty ocean]

o shi

i thought this was the general chat

[storm eagle]

lol it's alr. Go into #the-dark-ages though so people can chat with ya about it. A lot in General don't play the game often. Good job beating the Vagary!

[tardy cedar]

May I ask, are there preator skins for every weapon or just the combat shotgun and heavy cannon?

[civic pivot]

those 2 only im pretty sure

[tardy cedar]

That sucks, I love the look of them

[civic pivot]

maybe you'll like the makyr skins

[tardy cedar]

I do, but I like to play with the default slayer so it would be a stark contrast

[civic pivot]

caution rocket launcher is pretty close to the praetor skins

[tardy cedar]

I noticed the Ballista is the exact same as the preator just dimmed, thanks!

[languid sand]

my game just crashed on immora on my nightmare run

[humble marlin]

can I learn to slob on console?

is it worth to learn cuz it seems tricky

[civic pivot]

taras nabad ml got my cheeks clenched

[lusty orchid]

fascinating

[civic pivot]

indeed

[civic pivot]

this the best ml ngl

[civic pivot]

can anyone help fodder has been spawning for 10 minutes even after killing all heavy and super heavy demons

[astral hamlet]

killai

[rustic copper]

have you tried turning it off and on

[languid sand]

happens sometimes, game can be buggy like that. I usually just restart a checkpoint unfortunately

[civic pivot]

yeah i beat this level it was so hard whoever made it needs to sleep with one eye open and i had to reload from the checkpoint it was a bug

it’s 4 am ima sleep cya

[formal glen]

What difficulty?

[timid dune]

Well, I just found an extremely well made helmet on Etsy for Doom Slayer

[pallid roost]

have you tried ripping and tearing

[visual mirage]

Who cares?

[astral hamlet]

I mean considering the guy said it was really hard
I think asking what difficulty he played on is a logical continuation

[formal glen]

And I also just want to know

[ripe sierra]

why is the Khan Makyr battle so easy

like its easier to fight her than any main boss encounter

literally all u need to do is js lob and shoot her drones to refill literally everything

takes like 2 minutes

even on nightmare

[pseudo kindle]

the difficulty is in yhe positioning honestly

cuz the damaging floor, it does a lot if you're not careful

but it's so negligible you can keep airtime if you're experienced enough

I feel like she needed more environmental hazards in her arena honestly

like the airstrikes or damaging slow lasers or spinning hazards

because it really doesn't push the boot on your neck enough for the second to last boss in the base game

[ripe sierra]

js spam jump and meathook and ur fine

also killing the drones refull the health and everything

[pseudo kindle]

yea

[ripe sierra]

i think shes the easiest cuz she doesn't have a blocking mechanism

[pseudo kindle]

she needed more environmental hazards

[ripe sierra]

u can js let bullets rip

and its free game

[pseudo kindle]

also probably some demons instead of just maykr drones

[ripe sierra]

the makyr drones make it like 5x easier

[pseudo kindle]

like spawning in barons of hell

[ripe sierra]

one pb or ballista is all it takes

[pseudo kindle]

nah the maykr drones make sense to be in the fight

but also adding in super heavies to compensate for it with a bunch more environmental hazards would have made the fight more interesting

[ripe sierra]

yeah but they js free health and ammo

[pseudo kindle]

beyond just LOB and meathook bp

[ripe sierra]

yeah lob is everything

js spam lob and u make it past every stage without breaking a sweat

[astral hamlet]

remove the environmental hazards and add in a crap ton of demons and the fight might actually be fun

[languid sand]

What's the best use for the ballista? I just did my first nightmare run and didn't touch the thing

[visual mirage]

destroyer blade

[languid sand]

Really? It makes you come to a complete stop how can you use that in a real situation

[visual mirage]

https://youtu.be/SgS0n1arUv4?si=yHmjUAauvZMvw4wI

[astral hamlet]

destroyer blade is nice for clearing rooms, but you have to know how to combo it with frag/ice bomb
but arbalest just makes cacos/pain elementals much easier so it's whichever one you prefer

[pearl pollen]

both are very good but id say destroyer blade is a little better overall

[scenic axle]

Just yeethook and spin around a room while it charges

Tons of damage

[astral hamlet]

Yeah I know how to use it

On a first nightmare playthrough arbalest is probably more useful though

[steep patrol]

That ballista skin is brutal.

[austere bronze]

or just... use both

but if you're talking about which ballista mod is better, it's not even close (assuming decent utilization of them), the destroyer blade absolutely destroys arbalest

it's not particularly hard to use the dblade decebtly though

you can just charge it after a monkey bar/jump pad or after a meathook jump

[nimble marten]

Why is the crucible's blade... shaped that way?
What's the point of it's crest?

https://tenor.com/view/megatron-transformers-gif-23471220

Is it literally to pin opponents the way Megatron's sword does?

[pearl pollen]

aura

[nimble marten]

ykw
fair and valid

the slayer clearly needs more aura

[mental hazel]

Hé has 10000000 aura

[civic pivot]

i mean it's so hot it can pierce through anything whatever its shape so you can make it look like anything

[rough bramble]

I think it's based off of the Ikakalaka sword.

[languid sand]

its a scale replica of his bepis

[late kelp]

the

[rough bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/cross-eyed-pepsi-smile-cheers-gif-9508191

i fucking love bepis

[civic pivot]

love it when im softlocked from a bug and gotta delete the save file

[tardy cedar]

Am I the only one who loves watching the intro cutscene and never skips it?

[distant quiver]

On Ultra Nightmare?

[civic pivot]

yes 💔

[distant quiver]

Oh man. I'm so sorry bro. What platform? That sounds like a Switch thing.

[astral hamlet]

The guy was just talking about an either-or scenario on a first nightmare playthrough

[civic pivot]

pc

[astral hamlet]

Why not just alt-f4? That’s the standard procedure for uncontainable bugs

[civic pivot]

idk i reloaded checkpoint didnt work

it was early on anyways so

[tired kraken]

happens on every platform

i got softlocked in arc complex elevator on pc

[distant quiver]

Geez. I just always thought it was a Switch thing, lmao. I had to kinda get used to it. Still hella enjoyed it tho.

[civic pivot]

i tried arc complex and at the tyrant 2 pain elementals encounter after beating it the encounter wouldnt end even after killing everything

this game so buggy

[astral hamlet]

Just killai

[strange rock]

@austere bronze hiii champion, how have you been? i have a little suggestion for you... can i slide into dm?

[austere bronze]

oh hi lol! i've been good, and yeah absolutely

[loud quail]

Is it just me or does Doom Eternal feel actually optimized

[austere bronze]

doom eternal is optimized for sure

[loud quail]

I just started it yesterday

And holy crap my FPS is both high and stable

Glad to see at least some modern games are optimized

[pseudo kindle]

it's really well optimized

which unfortunately can't be said the same for TDA but that can probably be chalked down to forced RTX because Bethesda

[lusty lark]

and Denuvo DRM which run behind the scenes and consumes your PC's resources

[pseudo kindle]

stop using RTX... for the children

[balmy ruin]

is there any such thing as a special reward for getting all 133 milestones?

[pseudo kindle]

don't think so

[tardy cedar]

There should be

Does anyone have any good recommendations for super shotgun skins? I’ve just been using the default grey for all my play throughs but it’s getting old

[pseudo kindle]

Lux is really fkn nice

Lux, Bloodstained, and Gold are my go-tos

[tardy cedar]

Are those unlocked by secret missions?

[pseudo kindle]

eerrrrrrrr I think they might be event stuff

[lusty lark]

if you like the default skin you can use the bloody stained version of it
otherwise it is subjective and depends on which skin you like

[tardy cedar]

I like default and preator

[balmy ruin]

aw damn

not a huge issue but i personally hoped there would be something

[tardy cedar]

How do you get the hellforged variant?

[lusty lark]

i think via battle mode

[tardy cedar]

Well that sucks, I don’t have PS+ so I can’t do battle mode

[lusty lark]

i usually use mods to get skins

there is a mod that's called "unlocker" that unlocks all skins

[lusty lark]

oh you are a console player

[tardy cedar]

Unfortunately yes

[lusty lark]

it's not unfortunate

[tardy cedar]

Yeah you’re right I just wanted some synergy in my arsenal, I’m using the old white quake con slayer skin with Mayker and Astro rn but I don’t have anything for the combat shotgun

[formal glen]

I like the jade skin

[tardy cedar]

I see wherein some of the confusion lies, I said super shotgun, I meant combat shotgun

[bright compass]

The praetor eternal suit is soo tuff

[formal glen]

Oh

[tardy cedar]

But the jade is cool

[humble marlin]

hi chat

[austere bronze]

hai

[storm eagle]

Hey

[humble marlin]

how many life sigls does Tag 1 have, because I'm going for extra life mode milestone

nvm i found my answer, Uac has 3, swamps has 2, and holt has 1. so that means I have to beat tag 1 in 4 deaths or less

[formal glen]

I finished mine with about 12 I think

You do get 3 starting lifes

[humble marlin]

ai says you can only carry 3 life sigils at a time

[formal glen]

Ai when it's wrong

[civic pivot]

makyr

[humble marlin]

for the people on gamepass, all of the series packs are on sale! I think I'm gonna get the series 5 one for the evangelion ballista

I still need the rip and tear pack aswell

[astral hamlet]

is that the one with the cultist base ML? cuz if it is then it's 100% worth it on sale

[humble marlin]

Yeah

[astral hamlet]

second most fun ML imo behind super gore nest

[humble marlin]

Wow

[astral hamlet]

although it isn't nearly as hard as the later MLs

[humble marlin]

is it harder than arc?

[astral hamlet]

yeah it's harder than arc
but not really on the same level as SGN, let alone mars core or taras nabad

[formal glen]

It was pretty boring imo

[humble marlin]

that's fine

[formal glen]

Mars core is my favorite

[astral hamlet]

[humble marlin]

imma buy it in a few mins

I love master levels

[astral hamlet]

also the classic combat shotty skin is sick

[humble marlin]

ya

it's on sale for $2.49 rn

[astral hamlet]

and the cultist slayer skin
2 and a half bucks totally worth it

[humble marlin]

nah the cultist slayer is in a different pack