doom-eternal

[clever thistle]

I finished the campaign on uv and I decided to start the ancient gods 1 expansion and for some reason the game gave me all the milestones that you get for mastering weapon mods without me mastering the weapons. i got the milestones without the rewards. are there any ways to fix this or am I screwed?

[polar osprey]

tag 1 and 2 assumes you got everything

[oblique topaz]

It’s supposed to be that way

[true heath]

Archvile murdering bonus

Cuz fuck archviles

[azure oriole]

They aint that bad

[clever thistle]

so redoing the milestones normally will give me the rewards?

[polar osprey]

yes

[clever thistle]

thx i'll test it and update u

[polar osprey]

tag 1 and tag 2 give u everything from the main game, atleast everything ur supposed to have

[graceful current]

playing ultra nightmare rn and now im really confused

is there no 1-Ups? why are they even in the game tbh if they're not gonna be in the singular mode where an extra life actually makes sense

i thought 1-Ups were included because of these modes but i suppose not

[terse sparrow]

The entire thing is you cant die once, consider urself lucky the saving throw is even in ultra nightmare, ultra nightmare would be incredibly easy to beat with 1 ups and the devs dont want that

[graceful current]

thats fair i guess i just dont really get why youd add 1-Ups to doom otherwise lol

like im not complaining about the lack of 1-Ups im more confused

[green bough]

anyone got any tips on the mars master level when you're in the asteroid field and get jumped by 3 marauders

they force me to slow down but then i get butchered by the fodder and normal enemies

[wraith scarab]

As you've figured out there are no 1 ups. But 9 times out of 10 there's super armor in place of where 1-ups would be outside of UN. Useful to know if you have the 1-up locations somewhat memorized

super armor fills your armor to full if you weren't familiar

[graceful current]

yea i noticed

that's pretty cool

[stable swan]

Do any of yall know why all my audio cuts out when ever I get to the first loading screen

They'll still be audio at the beginning with all the logos but then it just cuts out

[next adder]

I have never once used Doom Slayers default appearance in Eternal because the Deluxe Edition skin is so just fire. pun intended

[peak torrent]

is that the fiery armor that you get if you preordered Eternal?

[next adder]

Yes

The Demonic Slayer skin

[dreamy nymph]

Not preordered

[green bough]

just the deluxe edition

[vernal kayak]

I have a soft spot for the Doom 2 marine armor, the stupid haircut is the icing on the cake

[green bough]

i like the 2016 armor a lot

[vernal kayak]

Quake Ranger is a good one too

[green bough]

alt tab bud is super annoying!

forgot about it, alt tabbed to look on how to get the second toy on taras nabad because i was struggling. missed the dash and now i can't fast travel back up

[dreamy nymph]

Wait until you get Fast Travel then try until you get it

[green bough]

that's what i did. tried it multiple times, got mad, looked it up and people were saying to use the rune. i tab back in to fast travel and change the rune but i can't

[sturdy cosmos]

I’m 2 trophies away from Platinum 🏆 😁

[clever thistle]

today I randomly got some skins from the series 10 event even tho it was almost 4 years ago. I have only been playing doom eternal for a couple of months so how tf did that happen?

[dreamy nymph]

It’s spring and events return

[clever thistle]

events return in doom eternal? that's cool i guess

[dreamy nymph]

That’s how I hope to acquire the patriot skins

[vernal kayak]

When’s the Doom 64 skins coming back into rotation?

[dreamy nymph]

What time of year did they come

[vernal kayak]

Around Summer I think

[rich drift]

Oh sweet, I missed a bunch of that stuff. I lost my old account

[graceful current]

just lost my ultra nightmare run because a gargoyle jumped down while i was picking up the sentinel mech power thingy🔥

eternal really gave long as fuck unskippable cutscenes you can take damage in to randomass batteries but the guns just appear with 0 fanfare

[rich drift]

Yeah, I wish they would have kept how you obtained them like in 2016

[vernal kayak]

womp womp

[dreamy nymph]

Moron indeed

[azure oriole]

you need to admire the work of the animation team

[graceful current]

yeah in future i will stand next to all batteries for 5 minutes incase something shows up

[graceful current]

yeah idk i wasn't really a fan of some moments like that in eternal

where what would've been a cool cutscene that interacted with the world in 2016 was just like

Gun randomly floating on the ground you pick it up thats it

[rich drift]

Yeah it was better in 2016 but I liked eternal more for some reason

[graceful current]

Eternal overall is probably a more solid experience gameplay-wise so

2016 has a better vibe/cooler gun cutscenes but realistically it’s less important than gameplay in terms of enjoyment

[vernal kayak]

Destructible demons is my favourite mechanic in doom eternal

[graceful current]

It’s a lot of fun

I especially love doing it to Arachnotrons and Mancubi

[vernal kayak]

It’s like an evolution of Quake 2 where enemies’ textures would change and become bloodier depending on how damaged they were

Weak points are fun too

[subtle eagle]

I’m just run and gunning the ark complex rn lmao

[graceful current]

Such a good level

[subtle eagle]

i’m just going through it right now because I need to know how I need to write a portion in my book

[vernal kayak]

What book?

[subtle eagle]

It’s a book series about my OC traveling dimensions and the one I’m currently writing is based off of doom eternal

[nocturne lynx]

Grab the battery during the weapon swap animation and you skip the battery acquisition animation.

[subtle eagle]

how/where can i rewatch the cutscenes that take place on the fortress of doom?

[violet zealot]

YouTube

Or starting a new game

[subtle eagle]

damn

[fringe torrent]

Cutscene viewers are rare nowadays

They left with the era of FMVs

[azure oriole]

Love super shotgun 💔 love meathook 💔

Hell yea 💔💔💔

[young mango]

I’m a professional cutscene skipper I’ve got my menu confirmation time at 100ms and I skip the places where the cutscenes that are skipped even happen

[normal sonnet]

.l

[twin raptor]

im in the middle of an ultra nightmare run, and my cursor has just appeared in the middle of my screen. ive tried alt+tabbing and whatnot to hide it again and nothing worked. anyone have any ideas?

[dreamy nymph]

ESC?

[twin raptor]

ive tried that

[austere bronze]

exit the game after the level is done, then go back in and it'll be fine

[twin raptor]

man i dont want to do the entire level with my cursor there 😭

[azure oriole]

then your un run is over.

[twin raptor]

😔

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/1F5-ThQrZEY?si=ir0n7i9LO4TkV7mv&t=723

Speedrun I did a while back where a hellknight survived getting glory killed

lol wut how

[rugged flax]

dunno

[young mango]

I have never seen this glitch anywhere else but this run

[rugged flax]

damn

[kindred pebble]

is dlss broken for anyone else that has a 50 series rtx?

i noticed that the framerate doesnt change and if anything seems like it decreases

i know its pretty unnecessary but i was curious to see how much frames i could get with a 5070

[young mango]

It was basically arbitrary

Somewhat arbitrary, the main driving force for its existence at the time was slope boosts. In unrestricted they already allowed for crazy skips but high end pc builds gave a disproportionate advantage, to stop the speedruns from effectively becoming p2w, because somebody with a really high end pc and a free scroll mouse could turn a slope boost into something that can rival zip boosts and be done literally almost anywhere

A category extension yes

It’s called restricted+

actually wait it’s 120

[fallen heart]

120

[young mango]

yeah mmafro would know

He’s why it exists lol

[fallen heart]

• current patch, no macro's/no scrollwheel jumping and no fps capping (past the 120) allowed

[young mango]

120fps edge boosts no scroll wheel are a pain to do😢

[fallen heart]

maybe watch how n0va and kovaak do them..i know n0va doesnt cap fps for his

[young mango]

Oh so diagonal walking backwards?

I forgot that existed

[fallen heart]

ya

theres also the charge DBlade method of slow walking for a setup

[young mango]

I’m a scroll wheel skrub there’s next to 0 room for failure on the bar of execution

[kindred pebble]

that might be it actually, i think im bottlenecking my gpu with my old cpu

i7 10th gen kf

i wanna upgrade the cpu so bad but im gonna have to change the whole motherboard and the cpu cooler aswell

prices rack up

[strange gale]

this game sucks lmfao

[young mango]

Like I was genuinely so confused about it

I forgot about it for a bit and came back to it today

and I’m still confused

Like how’s this even possible dude

It’s a verified speedrun too, completely unmodified game

[graceful current]

he locked tf in

[young mango]

He did not lock in he got ssg pb’d like 5 seconds later

I would go as far to say this is single-handedly the rarest glitch out there, as far as I know anyways

[strange gale]

gk just deals something like a million damage to the target right?

n afaik enemies don't get additional dmg resistance while staggered

[young mango]

He behaved as if he came out of stagger cuz he didn’t have a lot of hp

glory kill that actually does the opposite of glory kill and takes them out of the animation

[strange gale]

couldn't have been a gk on the last stagger frame

you interrupted the "taunt" anim or whatever he did right after spawning

but enemies don't have extra dmg resistance there either

[azure oriole]

true

[strange gale]

no shot this is an immora specific bug

surely

[green bough]

any point in collecting praetor suit points after you max your armor other than the 100%

[azure oriole]

no

[graceful current]

is it advisable to go to the slayers gates on an ultra nightmare run

[azure oriole]

only if you want the challenge since the reward is useless as shit

They can get you some extra weapon points but the unmaykr is pretty worthless

oh and the weapon points too

I would avoid the cultist base and mars core gates just cause the arena layout for those is just not fun at all

[young mango]

you know the unmaykrs bad when what is effectively the games equivalent to spare change is touted as more of a plus than the final reward

[azure oriole]

Truth nuke

[strange gale]

remember that one guy who used to complain about shieldguys, think he got banned or left

anyway you can instakill them with an unupgraded pb

n it's not hard either because of the cylindrical hitbox

doesn't work on chaingunners bc their shield hitbox extends way past the visible part

idtech hates tech... calm trvke...

[young mango]

The oddest part is, from what I know their shield doesn’t behave as if it’s part of the enemy, instant salvo will not work on their shield.

Blood maykrs, who also have a state of invulnerability can very much make instant salvo work

[tame topaz]

You know this game is cool and all but 4k hours in and it still gets me fucking fuming to have enemies zoom toward you for melee.

It's very cool to have a system to dash attacks and then completely ignore it when enemies lock in on you straight up with near zero telegraphing.

[terse sparrow]

In the dlc i always wondered why the blood maykr and maykr drone item drops were switched

Werent*

[tame topaz]

This game can genuinely fuck off with that. FPS dependent physics behavior on fast-paced FPS like this is unforgivable.

[azure oriole]

id got lazy

[azure oriole]

Honestly man, people have beaten this game with 1hp on nightmare, I think you just get tilted easily and it's 100% a skill issue.

i disagree

[graceful current]

eternal fans cant take criticism of the game they just say "skill issue" and dont elaborate

[austere bronze]

wdym many people have beaten this game with 1hp😭

[strange gale]

sure, there are segmented hitless runs but i'm confident that's not what you meant by this

[austere bronze]

there's a few people who've done playthroughs while getting oneshotted, but then they just reload checkpoint... which is kinda boring

[strange gale]

also, that "skill issue" point is entirely moot

[austere bronze]

it stops becoming impressive after you've spent 100 tries on a single arena lmao

[strange gale]

you beat melee attacks with infinite range and tracking by aircamping but that's boring as fuck

the only good counterplay is to completely give up trying to move on the ground

[austere bronze]

you just gotta start predicting the broken-ness of the game lmao

[strange gale]

dashing to avoid shit just isn't reliable

it works on projectiles but AD strafing already does that

[austere bronze]

i had a revenant come in from 10 miles away to melee me yesterday... never knew melee was their strong point

it just gets worse if you wanna increase ai haste

[strange gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/1362338181076353125/dc.mp4

[azure oriole]

i beat doom eternal deathless no damage and full auto only

[strange gale]

yes i slowed the game down to artificially increase the effective framerate but this is a real thing

[azure oriole]

play at 30 fps

[austere bronze]

game is just better at 30fps

[strange gale]

that's not a good solution

looks like ass and it makes tech harder

• aircamping beats everything anyway

[azure oriole]

ik but its funny how even marauder axe tracking gets fucked

[dreamy nymph]

1. Why is there a hell knight there and
2. Why does your shotgun have the Ultrakill model

[austere bronze]

mods❤️

you can spawn in demons with commands, if you're on a modded version of the game

[azure oriole]

someone tell id to fix the performance for the modded version

pls

[slow sigil]

@idgamingstudios(real) plz fix this guy's game

[azure oriole]

thx u

[spark minnow]

doom's spoiled me, nothing scratches the itch

[spark minnow]

starting to work on master levels. is it important to know the spawns? seems like that's what makes them harder

[austere bronze]

you don't have to know spawns, but it makes stuff easier

not knowing spawns means you have to think on the spot and come up with new plans, more fun imo

[spark minnow]

true. aerial essential to make dying less often? i hear that a lot

[austere bronze]

being in the air is good, yup

[azure oriole]

air control nerfs the enemy ai

[azure oriole]

Wouldn't just being in the air, or being positioned properly just mean hell Knights aren't a problem (also I did mean the segmented runs, I didn't know they where segmented as the one I saw back in the day didn't say y anything about it being one)

Btw I agree that video looks like some bs super speed.

[austere bronze]

being in the air all the time is boring, and being positioned correctly doesn't necessarily fix the issue

unless you always consider the fact that a hell knight can jump at you from miles away

and even then it doesn't really fix the issue, especially in some arenas

[sudden haven]

i love doom eternal

[tame topaz]

You really typed this out and thought 'yeah hit send'.

[tidal fox]

ok man, not all of us are total sweats who spend every waking hour on the game

[azure oriole]

me

[tidal fox]

like, I have a life outside doom eternal and discord, I can't "get good" when a, it sucks for console players (imo) and b, i can't play as often because of my schedule, like some of us try to "git good"

[azure oriole]

You really typed this out and thought 'yeah hit send'. ??? Bro it's a question, if you don't like what I said answer the question and explain why I'm wrong like M1 did.

Weirdo.

[tame topaz]

Very cool and good troll attempt.

[azure oriole]

I'm not stuck in my thoughts, I haven't played much of the game only like 300 hours, I can be wrong, and if I'm wrong explain why I'm wrong.

How am I trolling lmao? Because I dared ask a question, and question the beliefs of others, how dare I be social lmao

I put I think, as it was my current opinion, and opinions can be wrong, so instead of being a asshole, how about you show me why you believe what you do?

[tame topaz]

You didn't ask a question. You called me bad and tilted over me pointing out the FPS dependent physics is shit and you acted like it's a good thing that adds to the skill ceiling. I have 4k hours into the game, enemies locking in with melee is not a problem with aircamping and pre-faltering but still dogshit and an objective flaw.

Is that enough for you or do I need to pull out some apples?

[austere bronze]

nah you can essentially just as easily become good at the game on controller

[azure oriole]

I don't know what fps dependent physics is man, maybe the problem would make more sense if you explained it?

Listen I'm sorry man, I have no excuse there I did come across as very aggressive and arrogant in my first message.

[austere bronze]

essentially, your fps directly influence how enemies behave
so higher fps means very fast and long melee lunges from some enemies

fps has an impact on virtually everything in this game

[gray rivet]

When I destroy a weak point does it do the usual damage count?

To the demon

[azure oriole]

i think it doubles the damage

[austere bronze]

it deals headshot damage, so it's essentially the normal damage from all weapons except stickies — if you headshot or destroy a weakpoint with stickies, they deal as much as a rocket

[tidal fox]

yeah, but when you have the bare minimum amount of time to play the game it gets annoying and hard to play

[gray rivet]

Ok thanks

[austere bronze]

no worries

[tame topaz]

Higher FPS = the faster the enemies become along with 'homing in' on the player for melee swipes.

I accept your apology but if you don't understand what the terminology even means then maybe don't insinuate it's an issue on the player's end right out of the gate. At no point did I say I struggled with it, I said it was stupid and shitty.

[azure oriole]

So fps changes enemy behaviour? So the faster you run the game and harder these enemies are?

[austere bronze]

essentially

[azure oriole]

I think I get it now

suffering from success

Yeah I think I see now, yeah that's stupid.

Does that by chance also mean the game is easier at lower frame rates?

[tame topaz]

Yes. It's usually mitigated by aircamping and just creating some distance between you and the enemies, but that's kind of hard to predict because some will randomly cancel out an attack to start another.

[tidal fox]

I've had this game since 2020 and I still only have 500 hours if that helps define how little time I have for this game, and why the controller system sucks in my opinion

[azure oriole]

yes but gl trying to do weapon combos

[tame topaz]

Yeah, but it plays like shit and some tech is flatout impossible to do.

[austere bronze]

the difference isn't really that large, but kinda yes

[azure oriole]

or bunny hopping

[tame topaz]

Even something is basic as weapon combos becomes difficult to do.

[austere bronze]

that's only on extremely low fps though

[tame topaz]

Like I said, it's usually mitigated by aircamping but the issue becomes really prevalent and really really offensive when fighting Marauders.

[azure oriole]

Weapon combos, like the weapon switching to cancel reload animations?

[tame topaz]

They start teleporting toward you, pulling up their shields when you shoot on green light, the dog will pounce at you and skip animframes, etc.

It's bad, sometimes it gets really bad and screws you over an encounter you shouldn't be struggling with, but it's usually not a problem. Still really fucking annoying.

[austere bronze]

yes

[azure oriole]

basic pb+rocket feels awful at 60fps

[gray rivet]

@austere bronze This is kind of random but do you have any comments on fighting the 2 marauders at the end of immora

That shit was so hard for me 😭

[azure oriole]

use the hammer

[gray rivet]

I am 😭

[austere bronze]

is it the encounter with the screechers?

[gray rivet]

Yep

[austere bronze]

i don't remember it all lmao, sorry

[azure oriole]

and spam lock on burst when they are staggered

[gray rivet]

Oh ok no prob

[azure oriole]

I mean falter

[azure oriole]

So something like meethook into blisters?

Not blister autocorrect

[austere bronze]

if you mean ballista, yup!

[austere bronze]

thought so lol

[azure oriole]

Yeah I always found those kinda hard on controller

but you did 1 hp nightmare run

[azure oriole]

I never said I did, I said people have lmao

I'm no where close to that good.

[austere bronze]

i'd recommend binding a few weapons

[azure oriole]

skill issue for sure

[tidal fox]

oof skill issue ig

[azure oriole]

So real.

real

[azure oriole]

How so? Custom controls?

[austere bronze]

yep

[azure oriole]

Any buttons I don't need or should use for switching?

mission information

[azure oriole]

#doom-eternal this feels really stupid, but I made something.

#screenshots

[austere bronze]

due to all this fps talk, i tried quick switching on 60

and it honestly feels very similar to 150 fps

just looks a bit weird due to it being 60fps lol

[gray rivet]

If I may ask, why not just use the weapon wheel solely?

[azure oriole]

the game will uninstall itself if you use the weapon wheel

[gray rivet]

xd

@azure oriole interesting binds tho, I hope they work

[azure oriole]

Idk, haven't tested them yet lmao

[azure oriole]

maybe its because of my monitor but at 60 fps or less I start to feel a lot of input lag

even at 80/90 fps

[austere bronze]

depends on you, if it's comfortable, go ahead

-# unbind your crucible too though...

[austere bronze]

i don't really notice that stuff, but it felt pretty normal to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuZGXnjkODk

[azure oriole]

Why unbind crucible? It's useful like every 30 years

[austere bronze]

nah you absolutely don't have to unbind it, it's useful
but many players — me included — find it to be a bit boring

[azure oriole]

Thats fair, I don't think I have anything I could possibly replace it with.

#screenshots

Updated it a bit

[austere bronze]

i definitely wouldn't choose to bind the plasma rifle

it's not a common weapon in quick switching combos

or at least, there are more common ones

heavy cannon, ssg, ballista and rocket launcher

[azure oriole]

Its binded because its not on the weapon wheel and my finger is never over x.

I switched it to rocket for now

[azure oriole]

You question that over the jump bind lmao?!

[austere bronze]

lol

didn't see the jump bind and i don't know what's good for controller

i've only played with it for less than an hour

[wooden crypt]

Hey y'all just finished doom eternal for the first time on ultra violence should I do the dlc first if yes do my items carry over ?

Oh and well I did almost do everything beside the finish the slayer hunter by glory killing him from left side but no matter what it dose not count it

[polar osprey]

the dlc thinks doomguy got every upgrade for every weapon and every upgrade

you will have everything unlocked except things that need exploration

things like collectibles or toys

but other than that, you have everything

[fringe torrent]

Those aren't used anyway

[wooden crypt]

Dose it matter if 100 percent every challenge beside just completion

Like will get any skin and should start the dlc with nightmare now that I played the whole game on ultra violence

[polar osprey]

you wont get any collectibles for playing the dlc

but the dlc gives you every upgrade in the main game

[azure oriole]

Is it just me or is the pvp very unbalanced and favours the demons?

[minor pumice]

I think the opposite. The slayer (at least a good one) is unstoppable: he is really fast and his weapons are really strong.

[azure oriole]

Shows how little I know lmao.

I don't even know what weapons are best, all I know is super shot gun good, and so is blister

God damnit autocorrect not again!!!!

Ballista

[austere bronze]

there are no best weapons

they all got utility and they work best in tandem

[azure oriole]

So what situations should I use the minigun in?

[kind basin]

To shield cheese every demon

(Forget turret mode )

[azure oriole]

Also I asked because I've never seen slayer win on playstation

Which is what I play on.

[austere bronze]

mobile turret is good for low effort high dps, and the shield is ana amzing defensive piece of utility

it protects you from all attacks except some attacks on the ground

[azure oriole]

How important is knowing your way around the maps?

[austere bronze]

it's generally very advantageous

not necessary, but it helps with routing, setting up funnel points, moving between the right spots, not getting cornered, and general control of the battlefield

[azure oriole]

One last question, should you always focus on the player demons? Or does a good slayer player kill alot of the small guys?

[austere bronze]

you shouldn't try to kill fodder demons because they might be a threat, but do it to restack

meathook and ssg for 30 free armor, but lose speed
meathook into pb and kill them with that for 20 armor but maintain speed

[azure oriole]

Ssg?

[austere bronze]

glory kill if needed and chainsaw of course

[austere bronze]

super shotgun

just meathook onto them and fire for the 30 free armor

[azure oriole]

Also lose speed? How do you maintain speed?

(bunny hopping is much to hard on controller with lag)

[austere bronze]

when the meathook pulls you in, it does so at a much greater speed than walking speed, by firing the ssg, jumping to detach or letting it do so automatically, that extra speed is lost
by swapping weapon and detaching from the meathook that way, you maintain the extra speed

and enemies stay on fire from the flaming hook a bit after you detach, so if you swap to the heavy cannon to detach, and pb them, you maintain the extra speed and get 20 armor

(only killing a demon with the ssg will yield 30 armor, any other method yields 20)

[austere bronze]

ah yeah, you do also need to bhop to maintain that speed for any meaningful amount of time

[azure oriole]

I need to see some high level slayer game play lmao.

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/uMBon7NtLD0?si=ooDyGm1FSBoJtm0X

watch a bit of both parts to see both playstyles :p

[azure oriole]

Thank you :3

[austere bronze]

i found the representation of aerial gameplay to be a bit weird, but it still shows roughly how that looks in higher level gameplay

[gray rivet]

I did not know that 😐

[austere bronze]

it only applies when you set an enemy on fire with the meathook

[minor pumice]

I used to win more time as the slayer than as a demon (and I played on ps4 pro)

[dreamy nymph]

I've been playing DOOM II on Eternal and it's pretty good

I got to map 09

[azure oriole]

When you punch cancel, does fps effect how long until you can shoot again?

[austere bronze]

yes, but it's extremely minimal

i noticed virtually 0 difference when going from 150 to 60 fps

[forest oracle]

Does somene want to play doom eternal with me?

[azure oriole]

Because sometimes I feel like my punch cancels don't make much of a difference with the sniper.

[austere bronze]

you neep to press the weapon bind after punching

[azure oriole]

Press switch weapon, or put the weapon I'm using on a button?

[austere bronze]

except with sticky bombs, but there you need to apply fse beforehand, which makes them difficult anyhow

[young mango]

This is at 30FPS

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1321502158201294921/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_7.mp4?ex=680271ca&is=6801204a&hm=53e5128bf0494ff4b34370d96d748b3a2fa97ad4dbab188a95854a75ec362fff&

[austere bronze]

if you wanna punch cancel the pb, this is what you gotta do:
shoot -> punch -> press heavy cannon bind

repeat

[azure oriole]

Rip crucible bind lmao

[azure oriole]

My binds are so wierd, I doubt anyone else uses them.

[green bough]

Does your monitor support 150 fps?

I have a 240hz monitor and the difference between 60 and 150 is life changing

[austere bronze]

it's a 165hz monitor, so yes

[polar osprey]

theres a big difference as i found out

[austere bronze]

i am not talking about how it looks lol

[polar osprey]

my monitor could handle 144hz for years but i used an hdmi cable so i couldnt figure it out

[austere bronze]

i am talking about the speed of quick switching/punch cancels

[polar osprey]

oh right about how quickswap works

[green bough]

Gameplay wise for a fast paced fps like eternal high fps and hz is better

[austere bronze]

and how that changes with fps; independent your monitor's refresh rate

[polar osprey]

well this is dffernet than gameplay wise

[green bough]

But quick swapping sucks

[austere bronze]

hmm?

do you think quick switching sucks at higher fps?

[azure oriole]

#videos so I have a dark monitor so I have to crank my brightness up alot, and it seems to have made a flash bang when the bfg fires, please help what brightness setting caused this?

[green bough]

idk i notice a difference in the cancelling animations when swapping

i feel like i can swap from 4-6-5 faster at 60 than 240

[austere bronze]

nah quick switching is slightly faster at higher fps

but different weapons swap at different speeds

[true heath]

I would say relatable but switch runs at 14 fps

[young mango]

switch does not run at 14FPS no

[slender solar]

anyone wanna help get bloody bath trophy psn

[azure oriole]

Yes!!!

If you help me get the multiplayer trophies, I'll help you get them :3

[slender solar]

reply me on dms

[terse sparrow]

this is all eoin gallaghers fault

[simple idol]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7wxaFtmB774?si=yJSnijWewxI6M_lC

Edit I did, I hope you like it.

[azure oriole]

i liked it

[simple idol]

Thx bro

[kindred cipher]

anyone to get online achivements?

in eternal

[fossil thicket]

Fellas

uhhh, what happens if youre on an ultra nightmare save and the game crashes?

OK THANK FUCK ITS STILL THERE

[true heath]

Cry and pray it's still there I guess

[fossil thicket]

it was

gold skin accquired babeeyyyyyy :DDDD

[true heath]

Niceeeeee I need to do that on switch

I want that shiny gold skin before I put myself through hell with tag1 UN

[azure oriole]

i laugh at gold skin slayers on battlemode

[gray rivet]

Damn so many people get thru UN 😭😭😭

[wooden oyster]

I just use Santa slayer

[stable condor]

You guys still doing this?

[abstract compass]

it's easter in nz already so I will be playing a lot of eternal in the following days. Im thinking of practicing weapon switching and some combos, is pb + sticky nades the first combo you can actually use in the game?

[unreal echo]

what do you think is the most annoying doom enemy? Not necessarily hard to deal with, but just annoying.

I’ll start: Archvile when you don’t have ssg and the ballista.

[patent wedge]

Doom Eternal haters, they are always obnoxiously spouting lies

[unreal echo]

I love doom eternal..?

[patent wedge]

You asked for the most annoying doom enemy

[unreal echo]

doom eternal enemy*

[rare bay]

well honestly you already started off strong and thats my personal first too, but spirits and stone imps. with the spirits, they just constantly overpower already spongey enemies (LIKE TYRANTS) and then you have to stay still and microwave beam them after their host is dead.

[patent wedge]

On a real note, I really do not like those new gremlins in the last DLC, the ones where you have to use the shotgun mod to kill

[rare bay]

the stone imps you have to swap to auto shotgun and personally i hate that attachment

plus it just bothers me when i waste all my ammo on them when i forgot

[patent wedge]

Can’t remember their name, but I didn’t like them at all. Spirits are fine and I like, the stones just dragged things

Stone imps I think that’s what they’re called

[unreal echo]

I haven’t played ancient gods since I haven’t had the time and money to buy it :/

I heard you fight two marauders tho
(I know abt the master levels)

[rare bay]

try a spirit-possesed tyrant, another tyrant, and a blood makyr all at once

that killed me

[unreal echo]

wait, do you get the ||unmakyr|| in ancient gods?

[rare bay]

nah, shes long gone

[unreal echo]

bru

[rare bay]

oh i read this wrong

i thought you said the khan makyr mb

yeah you get the unmakyr

[unreal echo]

nice

quick question, what do you main in battle mode? (If you play demon.)

jus curious

[rare bay]

I havn't played battlemode in ages. Last time I did I think I mained revenant?

[unreal echo]

I use revenant right now

shame battle mode is basically dead

[rare bay]

Try doom 2016 multiplayer

[unreal echo]

I have

I just make snap maps to play by myself in 2016

I made a wave defense where you use a demon rune

that was fun

[rare bay]

only time I used snapmap was when I was playing some doom 1993 maps

[unreal echo]

also, is it just me, or are SOME 2016 designs better than eternal?

[rare bay]

most of them are. the cacodemons in eternal just look dumb

also the cyberdemon to tyrant downgrade is unreal

[unreal echo]

I know eternal is mildly based on 1993, but they did the cyber demon dirty. From sick ass boss, to average enemy in late game. It also just looks a bit funny in eternal.

[rare bay]

everything just looked so out of place in eternal with the designs and all

[unreal echo]

it feels like the new demons got all the love when it comes to design. (doom hunter, marauder, etc)

then dark ages made the revenant ||look like the grim reaper (I love it) ||

[rare bay]

they spent all effort into the marauders design then made everything else about it bad

[spring panther]

give the shield a limited health pool instead of fucking infinite 🙏

[unreal echo]

i DO like the resource mechanics and speed compared to 2016 though.

[rare bay]

its so boring just constantly swapping between 2 weapons 💔

[unreal echo]

but that’s gameplay wise

[unreal echo]

rip gauss cannon btw

and pistol

[rare bay]

gauss cannon was so sick, thank God they got rid of the pistol though

good riddance

and at least Dark Ages is bringing back melee

[unreal echo]

I often used it to save ammo for fodder demons, but everyone plays different

speaking of melee, why did it get nerfed to hell in eternal? (1 point of damage.)

[rare bay]

thats what I'm saying 😔 I miss just blitzing through fodder enemies with a 2 punch combo

[unreal echo]

EXACTLY

[unreal echo]

that threw me WAY off when I first played eternal

[rare bay]

i was so unbelievably confused

[spring panther]

quickly finding out the melee does ONE damage

they did that so you use blood punch more

even then that does 1000 damage to most enemies when upgraded (less than ssg and slightly more than ballista)

[rare bay]

horrible descision

[azure oriole]

Proof??

[strange gale]

i don't think a spammable crowd clearing tool with zero whiff recovery or resource cost belongs in a game built around resource management

there'd be even less of a reason to use stickybombs if you could just mash your melee key to kill every fodder enemy

wouldn't quite outclass pb because of headshot blast, but come on

pb punch canceling is better than punch spam would be anyway

infinite range, infinite punch through, low ammo cost, fast fire rate, and aoe when you master it

[austere bronze]

only time the punch would ever be good is if your positioning and spatial awareness is way off

[strange gale]

also has a cylindrical hitbox so you kinda have aoe even before mastering it

[terse sparrow]

Glory kills arent that bad to get if u dont panic, all u need to do is use plasma rifle or heavy cannon for a quick stagger on a fodder

I panic tho so i suck at getting them

[strange gale]

in 2016 you could punch, cancel the animation with a pistol shot, and then cancel that animation with another punch

staggers fodder instantly, and while it isn't broken, i don't think it belongs in that game either

[terse sparrow]

Honestly being realistic that would only rlly help on hell on earth in eternal

[austere bronze]

most annoying and worst is the prowler imo, then the screecher
the rest of tag2 demons i find hard to rank, because the baron isn't too bad if he behaves like a normal enemy, but that's rare lmfao
stone imps and riot soldiers are annoying if you gotta face them, but you can often avoid them

[terse sparrow]

I hate riot soldiers on console

[strange gale]

armored barons have shit token priority, even with 3x tokens

[terse sparrow]

Cus i prefer to use lock on and full auto

[strange gale]

yeah you can nuke the armor with plasma, and the ammo cost is irrelevant because of a certain other tool

but i'm not sure they should be so passive

[austere bronze]

i find it impressive how they even managed to make him so his weak point isn't always destroyed when you shoot it

like what

[terse sparrow]

Never happened to me, its always because i use ballista instead of pb aim assist and i missed

[strange gale]

that might happen because pb damage sometimes gets reduced there for some reason

this is going off the assumption that the weakpoint has an hp value, like any other

another wild guess: pb might apply global crit state specifically in this context, and if it gets turned off for whatever reason the weakpoint doesn't break

afaik global crits are exclusive to stickies but you never know with this game

stickies can fail to break weakpoints if you turn off the crit before the explosion

[real holly]

beat tag 2 on Ultra Nightmare, got THIS close to beating tag 1 on UN but failed, and didnt make it much farther than Doom hunter base in UN

[austere bronze]

yeah i've mostly stoppped using stickies to break weakpoints because of that

but even the pb isn't a guarantee😭

[real holly]

The only legitimate obstacle im facing now is fatigue bc replaying Hell on Earth and Exultia so much is so fucking boring after the 10th time

[polar osprey]

if you can beat tag 1 on un, you will probably be able to beat eternal, the holt iirc is the hardest level in the game

[real holly]

its funny bc i died in the stupid cacodemon phase

[polar osprey]

or you probably wont struggle much

just gotta see what you prioritize most

what ability you use most in tag 1

[real holly]

its just so fucking boring to do Hell On Earth and Exultia over and over again

when I reach Cultist Base at least its more fun bc theres stakes

[austere bronze]

hop on some master levels and come back to un when you can clear it first try :p

[real holly]

ehhhhh

like the problem with un early game pre super gore nest

is your arsenal isnt full and you arent that powerful

your more of a glass cannon

thats why I got much further in tag 1 bc I had full arsenal

[polar osprey]

yeah yeah

[real holly]

but in main campaign the fatigue of hell on earth+exultia is getting to me

[polar osprey]

if you feel like being seriously masochistic you can try kaisercampaign, you get your full arsenal in cultist base, just gotta look for the shootables :3

[real holly]

I want to get the UN gold suit legit doe

to flex

but holy fuck is it boring to replay Hell on Earth and Exultia so much

[polar osprey]

kaisercampaign is alot harder than the normal campaign

[real holly]

and it takes like 40 minutes at best

[polar osprey]

even if you do get your arsenal early

which is why i said masochistic

[real holly]

im not that good at the game even with full arsenal

[polar osprey]

maybe u should owrk on that too

try learning quickswapping and doing combos, but most importantly, never stop moving, alwyas keep moving

[real holly]

all ive done so far is 97% of Horde Mode (All milestones but some biker set stuff missing) and beat all campaigns on Nightmare

and ofc tag 2 un

[polar osprey]

when i started to never stop moving in eternal, i felt nigh untouchable

[real holly]

yeah that works until you play un cultist base-doom hunter base

[polar osprey]

like if you want to, go to the normal campaign and try to always keep moving in the first big cultist base fight

[real holly]

heres the thing ive beaten cultist base on un already twice

[polar osprey]

well, did you learn to just always move and stuff?

[real holly]

its not even THAT hard the problem is doing 50 minutes of Hell on Earth and Exultia before it so much is boring

[polar osprey]

yea yea

[real holly]

yes

[polar osprey]

but thats part of the UN fun

[real holly]

not fun for me

[polar osprey]

if you want to, you can do extra life mode on nightmare, its the same but you can use extra lives

[real holly]

already did that

[polar osprey]

and limit yourself to only 1 or 2 extra lives per level

did you try limiting your extra lives?

[real holly]

i got the extra lives milestones

all of them

im good at this game the problem is Hell on Earth and Exultia take forever in my eyes just to get another shot at Cultist Base

the punishment is actual time wasting not something challenging

[polar osprey]

well, yeah fair

[terse sparrow]

yeah, i fucking HATE hell on earth its so boring theres no air control or dash or anything its repetitive and theres no stakes

[azure oriole]

i love hell on earth design

if only there was a master level version of it

😢

[terse sparrow]

the holt*

[terse sparrow]

they should give sentinel prime a master level

[azure oriole]

gold boss gladiator is aids

[strange gale]

it doesn't, it just checks if the weapon hitting it is eligible to break it

ssg and fully charged hb don't work 🤔

full auto does for some reason? wtf

[azure oriole]

dlc demons are a blessing

[strange gale]

takes 3-4 shots which is less damage than an ssg shot lmfao

@austere bronze the mace is a very consistent punchboost target

this is kinda sick

works the best when it's raised (green light/certain melee attacks)

[real holly]

I saw a video of a fanmade one its hilarious

https://youtu.be/f0VLxnqwgmM?feature=shared

[azure oriole]

Should you target a Marauder first, or last (to make sure no enemies hit his shield and summon his dog in)?

[real holly]

like im not saying its bad I just find the idea of these demons jumping the slayer in so many close up areas so funny

[austere bronze]

yoo
how do you pull it off?

[real holly]

Marauder last in most situations imo

[terse sparrow]

whats next are they gonna give the fortress of doom ripatorium section before cultist base a master level?

[real holly]

unless theres space to be safe from the other enemies activating the shield

[strange gale]

recording clip

[real holly]

https://youtu.be/cd47x85C7Hk?feature=shared

[azure oriole]

real

[real holly]

they should do a doom hunter base master level but its all in that one train segment

[azure oriole]

What difficulty is the intended one?

[terse sparrow]

ik this is random but i once got a viagra ad while watching a video in school

[austere bronze]

as early as possible, don't try to kill him if it puts you at too much risk, but you wanna get rid of him early

[azure oriole]

tiicketmaster doom hunter base

[terse sparrow]

i kill marauders last

[austere bronze]

there is none

[real holly]

when this question comes up im reminded of the holts first big arena, I take care of the Tyrant before the Marauder

[terse sparrow]

marauders arent too bad to avoid, fighting them with a room full of enemies is whats hard

[real holly]

agreed

[azure oriole]

I mean the original difficulty the game was made for before the others where added.

[azure oriole]

uv is the canon difficulty

[terse sparrow]

honestly the holt final arena in horde mode is torture

[austere bronze]

yeah, there is none

[real holly]

it is

[azure oriole]

100% damage received

[real holly]

the extra life consumers

[azure oriole]

Agreed.

200% in nightmare iirc

[terse sparrow]

i never do the bonus rounds on that

i beat it on nightmare and avoided bounties like the plague

[austere bronze]

but in the game files, hmp is labeled as medium lmao

and uv as hard

[terse sparrow]

even then i had no lives left and had 1 hp before i excorcised marauder spirit

[real holly]

i got all milestones in horde mode plus ONE no bfg run and holy shit the last horde mode arena in the holt is absolutely bonkers

[terse sparrow]

uv isnt even that bad

[austere bronze]

i'd like to redo only the last arena of horde mode, and skip the rest lmao

[terse sparrow]

yeah as a console player i do not know how the fuck people have beat round 4 on nightmare on console

[azure oriole]

i dont even remember that last arena of horde mode

[terse sparrow]

thats some smvr level shit

[polar osprey]

iirc theres a bunch of scrapped master levels that some used for actual master levels

[azure oriole]

I just remember that part where a buff totem is surrounded by turrets

[terse sparrow]

when i got that on a clueless ultra violence attempt i just set my controller down

[austere bronze]

yeah, they still exist in the game files, so some people just modded them in

but there's a reason they were scrapped...

[azure oriole]

hell on earth levels will always be peak

[terse sparrow]

i hate hell on earth in eternal

[real holly]

hell on earth and exultia are fine levels as long as you dont replay them 15 times bc of Ultra Nightmare

[terse sparrow]

i wish u could just skip it and start exultia with grenade full auto and pb

[austere bronze]

tormented earth❤️
i remember there used to be another hoe level on nexus mods that was the most cancer thing i ever played, but it's gone now </3

[real holly]

I wish I could skip AT LEAST hell on earth

[azure oriole]

wish they did all of the master levels like that

[terse sparrow]

i like exultia ngl getting air control is orgasmic

[azure oriole]

Guys I just randomly flew 2000 feet out the map?!

What?

Cuz having to wait for months for a single ml to drop by was…

[terse sparrow]

u probably punch boosted on accident

[austere bronze]

yeah, that happens lolol

[azure oriole]

idk

[terse sparrow]

i lost a UN run to accidental punch boosting

[azure oriole]

air control brainrot

[azure oriole]

I lost one to a zombie in the final boss arena lmao

[terse sparrow]

i cant get past the large arena a bit before the basement in cultist base

and i can do the basement fine like wtf

[azure oriole]

But the distance I got was not a punch boost I think, I went out the skybox

[real holly]

i dont fear dying in Ultra Nightmare I fear replaying Hell on Earth and Exultia while barely managing to stay awake bc of how boring they are by now

maybe ill just be glad I beat tag 2 on UN and stay complacent with the skin I got as a reward

tag 1 skin is just, yeah its gold but it just the makyr skin which I never really vived with. Should have been literally any other skin they painted gold for that

[austere bronze]

zip boost/rail boost i'd guess

[terse sparrow]

the first time i got past the world spear i died in the first arena of reclaimed earth (before you enter building

[azure oriole]

cheese skin

[azure oriole]

What's a zip or rail boost?

[real holly]

does anyone actually play master levels with the classic mode enabled?

[terse sparrow]

all they needed to do was to make aurum shine

[real holly]

like the one where you get the guns as you go

[terse sparrow]

theyre the easiest for me even if the skins are ugly

[azure oriole]

i dont have plans to kill two pain elementals with just the base fire of the shotgun

[terse sparrow]

do it on itytd

[real holly]

im talking classic mode and ultra nightmare all the fun stuff bc theres no way killing any Super Heavy demon in Mars Core with the base shotgun and plasma rifle is anything but excruciating torture

[terse sparrow]

thats the only reason i could be bothered bcs im NOT killing 15 cyberdemons on nightmare with the heavy cannon base fire and grenades

[austere bronze]

zip boosting is done by dashing and meeting some very specific requirements
rail boosting is when you are attempting to grab a platform, but you barely don't reach it, then thr game gives you tons of speed to reach it, but for some reasons, not all platforms reset this speed

and then you rail boost!

[terse sparrow]

are u ever cuddling ur dog but then he yawns in ur face and his breath is revolting?

[azure oriole]

Brush your dogs teeth

[terse sparrow]

i live on a farm every time i do it smells bad the next day

[azure oriole]

dog channel

[real holly]

bark

[strange gale]

the key to mace boosting seems to be to dash towards the mace and aim up and to the left

not really sure why dashing is affecting it since you can't melee lunge while dashing

maybe it's a spacing thing and my dashes happen to end at the same distance every time, either way it doesn't really seem to work if you just W and punch

[real holly]

https://youtu.be/AMpclkleEe0?feature=shared you ever like something in a game alot that it seems most others dont and that makes you feel weird? Thats me with the fact that the Dark Lord is my favourite boss fight in the game

[terse sparrow]

same

he can be a bit bs tho

[real holly]

i agree but like isnt that a thing with every boss

[terse sparrow]

the doomhunter is rlly good to me

[real holly]

id say the Icon of Sin is ten times more bs than the Dark Lord if it wishes to be

I have yet to beat the DoomHunter without dying on Nightmare so idk

tbf though I only tried twice

[austere bronze]

the dark lord will blatantly cheat, haven't really found that to be the case with other bosses

[real holly]

hes just tryna win so bad

[terse sparrow]

the dark lord sometimes just dsoesnt green flash for ages and THEN he recovers all his hp from a minor slipup

[real holly]

I want to shit on Doom Hunters second phase but I just feel like I suck at it so I dont feel like critiquing it

i only critique shit in a game after I get good at it

[terse sparrow]

the doohunters second phase is easy asf

[real holly]

the one with the two hunters

thats where i die

[terse sparrow]

its easier than the first

[real holly]

It is????

[terse sparrow]

the hp difference between the hunters is insane

[real holly]

on Ultra Nightmare the double Doom Hunters are a wall I have yet to climb over

[terse sparrow]

see it as this

the first doommhunter jhas 5000 sled health and 2500 body health, the second 2 have 2/ 3of that, normal enemy doom hunters have 1/ of the original hp

[real holly]

I must be missing something bc people say the first big arena is the hardest part of Doom Hunter Base when for me its the double Doom hunters

[real holly]

WHAT

what in tarnation

[terse sparrow]

omfg

[real holly]

i always thought this wasnt the case

[terse sparrow]

its my fuckass keyboard

first hunter is 3/3, second hunters are 2/3, all the others are 1/3

on healthg

[real holly]

i know the Doom franchise isnt a stranger to doing stuff like this but until now I wholeheartedly believed all Doom Hunters had the same health

i just assumed they died faster bc I got stronger

[terse sparrow]

even then the second 2 you fight might even be 2x as strong as enemy ones

[real holly]

buh

thanks for this information ill take it into account

is this the only instance of this happening on Eternal, I mean a enemy being stronger in a particular context without any visible buffs?

[terse sparrow]

idk tbh

[real holly]

youd think they would do something similar for the marauder but no https://youtu.be/w4zgGzTRpeI?feature=shared

[terse sparrow]

the marauder is easy anyway

[real holly]

ik

but like idk if hes supposedly a boss or something give him more health than the usual marauder

they probably didnt do it bc they knew people would piss their pants, they already had trouble dealing with the normal marauder

[azure oriole]

bullet sponges marauders arent fun to fight

[terse sparrow]

the marauder isnt a boss

[terse sparrow]

its an enemy with an intro cutscene

[austere bronze]

i think you confused the different values here a little
the first DH has 18 000 HP in total, where 2/3 is allocated to the first phase (applies to all DHs)
the second time it's 12 000 HP
and normal enemies got 7500 HP

[terse sparrow]

oh mb

[terse sparrow]

@real holly

[real holly]

👍

[graceful current]

It’s not my favourite but I find him fun

I think most people dislike him though because they’ve already done the style of bossfight twice and because the idea of an alternate doomguy makes ppl think it should’ve been a mirror match

[graceful current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642730879852085281/1362730350031278200/image.png?ex=68037509&is=68022389&hm=a324eb61f8120648008ffb13e6ed4ee625daf3b9ddb8de0cf1744b23e3f33c36&

is this true? does anyone know what missions are in what episodes?

and does doom 2016 do this?

[azure oriole]

levels are called like that on the gamefiles

e1m1_intro to e1m4_boss is from hell on earth to doom hunter base

[fringe torrent]

Would be cool if a modern Wolfenstein game had something similiar, like the first level called E1F1

[azure oriole]

e2m1_nest to e2m4_boss is from super gore nest to sentinel prime

[graceful current]

oh wow

[azure oriole]

e3m1_slayer to e3m4_boss is from taras nabad to final sin

[graceful current]

so wait how is nekravol written

[azure oriole]

And the dlcs are episodes 4 and 5

[graceful current]

is it e3m2 for both parts?

[graceful current]

the dlcs are modern final doom :P

[fringe torrent]

Or just DOOM II

[graceful current]

eternal is modern doom ii

the dlcs are a two part expansion to modern doom ii ergo they're final doom :P

[fringe torrent]

I thought you were referring to the level structure

[azure oriole]

i think for part 1 is e3m2_hell and for part 2 is e3m2_hell_b

[fringe torrent]

DOOM II didn't use the ExMx format

[graceful current]

ohh k

does 2016 have anything like this?

[graceful current]

no i wasnt lol sorry 😭 i guess that was confusing

[graceful current]

ya i thought it was weird eternal had this but not 2016

the ExMx format was so goated it sucks Doom II didn't have it tbh

or Final Doom or Doom 64
but Legacy of Rust at least has it 🙏

[fringe torrent]

It didn't really need it as it doesn't have an episode selection system

[graceful current]

ik ik i just find it cool :P

[fringe torrent]

Like Eternal, you could argue internally it is split into episodes, i.e. the Unity achievement list, but it's not TRULY split apart

[azure oriole]

honestly idk
im not familiar with 2016's map files

[fringe torrent]

The Mx system is better for DOOM II imo

[graceful current]

now i have to figure out how to look at 2016's map files i guess

[graceful current]

i suppose but that's cause Doom II has less of a structure

given it only has like one boss and the areas you're in aren't as clearly defined

[fringe torrent]

They kind of are

[graceful current]

theres the random text screens throughout

[fringe torrent]

Even then you could split it into the three main goals the game gives you; shut down the barrier, do something in the city (I forgot what), kill the Icon of Sin

But yeah the boss stuff is an issue

[graceful current]

if the text screens were slightly moved

ig you could make Mancubus/Arachnotrons the first "boss"

Dead Simple is kind of just 1 arena that introduces new enemy types

archvile should've had a boss encounter IMO

[fringe torrent]

Similiar to E1M8 in a way

[graceful current]

yeah

Dead Simple, Hypothetical But Nonexistent Archvile Boss Encounter, Gotcha! and The Icon of Sin could've worked probably...?

[vernal kayak]

If they kept the archvile introduction on mars core yeah

[fringe torrent]

Talking about DOOM II here

[fringe torrent]

What's Gotcha doing there?

[graceful current]

idk it throws all of the bosses from Doom 1 at you and theres already a text screen after it

[fringe torrent]

It's a gimmick map, there's no reason for 4 episodes, and I'm not really sure how you'd differentiate it from the next episode

[graceful current]

idk i just went off the fact there's 4 text screens for doom ii

[fringe torrent]

Yeah that's weird

But probably just because the game has a bigger focus on story than DOOM I

[graceful current]

does it?

[vernal kayak]

Is there a mod that puts Doom 2 into episodic format?

[graceful current]

i didn't get that impression when playing it even tho there are more text screens

might just be because of the lack of an intermission and clearly defined places to me ig

[fringe torrent]

DOOM I's entire goal is 'get out', each text screen just basically changes your location

DOOM II has three different goals, each text screen with more story than DOOM I's "you go there and you are now there"

DOOM II is a step forward to bringing story to these games, at least from how I see it

[turbid jetty]

Not much of a step up, but I guess it could be seen that way

[vernal kayak]

One intermission screen mentioned how Doomguy was waiting for death and was content with dying after saving humanity, that always got to me somehow

[graceful current]

i wonder if there was an inside man for the demons in doom 1

like Bertruger in Doom 3, Guerard in Doom RPG, Olivia Pierce in Doom 2016

seems to be a plot point they love

ik that Quake 3 Arena certainly implied the UAC were doing shady shit in Doom 1 given Phobos' backstory

[graceful current]

oh yeah that one is good

i always really liked TNT's final text screen

idk why i just like the visuals i think of when i read it

[vernal kayak]

Nothing will top Doom 64’s end text for me

[polar osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1133029268868317266/1362765834367533136/20CCFA1.JPG?ex=68039615&is=68024495&hm=f718a36c27634b3af1e80cf128568a856dcce46810fb710a52589ded4f235668&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1133029268868317266/1362765834057023711/204DAB1.JPG?ex=68039615&is=68024495&hm=ab220e41e1ed4a74bd4b8df4341cd3621aef3aa1db25b151590716d523251cd5&

good keybinds?

[median jetty]

I hope they add the Doomslayer model from DOOM: The dark ages to DOOM eternal as a tribute to the new DOOM, and also because i think it fits the "Ancient sentinel" podium the best. It's just cool as hell so why not.

[dreamy nymph]

eh

[candid juniper]

Very likely there was. Teleportation experiments had been occurring there for awhile, and that opens up a period of time for Hell to communicate with and corrupt people.

[azure oriole]

Why eh? I see free skin.

[timid cedar]

Random fact: Dashing into a pinky/spectre with the chaingun shield on will kill it instantly most of the time

[azure oriole]

It can take out a possessed pinky fairly quick too

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075620182615142401/1362828750634488120/ig5jh7zw1mue1.png?ex=6803d0ae&is=68027f2e&hm=92b515a8df0c5b43ebfc62547fd80e7bb306453da2c8e58300d6efcd52c17911&

[azure oriole]

I personally do not think there was an inside man with Doom 1, and I prefer the idea the demons just latched onto teleportation experiments and used them to mount a quick, dirty, unorganized invasion.

Doom 1 is the very first invasion Hell has had without Davoth being there. So I'd presume at this point they haven't really ironed out their strategies yet.

[subtle eagle]

Whats a good way to describe Marauders? (need info for my book) Right now i have “A big bulky demon with armor similar to The Slayer’s” anyone got any suggestions on anything i should add?

[sinful locust]

Is there a way to disable the chain saw fuel auto refill? I think it makes getting ammo too easy

[young mango]

no

[candid juniper]

That’s fair

Perhaps the strategy of deception came about only once they experienced their first setbacks against Doomguy and the Argenta

[buoyant abyss]

someone help me to get the battle mode achievements on steam plz

[candid juniper]

It would fit too since I’m assuming Davoth’s prior invasions were similarly all utilizing brute force tactics.

So that carried over into their invasions without Davoth, didn’t work out the three times they tried it, and then under probably Ahzrak and the Hell Priests they start utilizing new strategies.

[fickle kiln]

Hey, is there someone who can help me with the Doom Eternal Trophies on the PS5? GamerTag; buchsbunny99. I would offer my help for bossting them too

[honest siren]

Was about to ask the same thing

[fickle kiln]

Yeah. I think a lotz of peaple still need them

[dusky estuary]

another doom writer spotted

[bright lodge]

any playstation player willing to help me get my last two battlemode milestones

they’re the last milestones I need before argentas paladi

[young mango]

@strange gale #videos message it seemed fairly consistent, when I tested it I didn’t get much verticality, didn’t manage to get very much speed out of it, getting 30 m/s at best when I tried it, might mess with it some more

[strange gale]

i might just be overthinking it

it was consistent for me before i started labbing it in more detail

[young mango]

I tried WW buffering it but it seemed to make very little difference

[strange gale]

i don't imagine this is very useful in speedrunning but in a freestyle context it's a nice option

[young mango]

If I could get more speed and verticality, it could be useful, could skip the pole skip by just going directly over the invis wall to the next part

[strange gale]

yeah the lunge kinda sucks

i got this earlier but idk what the requirements are https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527939153297448/1362697132666261535/image.png

i'd assume this happened because there's an invis wall behind me

but surely that's not the only condition

[unreal echo]

I just beat (what I think is) the hardest slayer gate!

it’s the one with multiple tyrants, baron, and doom hunter.

[graceful current]

So having done a little research

Like Doom Eternal, Doom II is also secretly split into 3 ‘episodes’ in the files

You can which episode you’re in while playing because there’s 3 different sky textures throughout the game

SETUP.exe + the old unity port calls them “The Space Station” (1-11), “The City” (12-20) and “Hell” (21-30)

[dusky estuary]

TAG1 Holt slayer gate is salt & vinegar & everything sinister

opens with double archville

goes into a blood makyr

then another blood makyr

then two doom hunters

and a buffed marauder to end it off

[unreal echo]

I got the unmayker!

[worn terrace]

Time for battlemode, its been along time, but i use to be good

[graceful current]

The buffed Marauder was absolutely foul

[azure oriole]

try the second iteration of that slayer gate

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585809871891333132/1362946166966190190/782330_273.jpg?ex=68043e08&is=6802ec88&hm=316f650164a45167329ff22d3a2a14c3ac555f9fdc0b3cfbe2cecaf35b5677a0&

@hard marlin got bored of campaing ultra nightmare so instead I did this

its actually not THAT bad once you realize you have enough crucibles to kill all archvilles in the level plus enough bfg shots to deal with the tyrant spam in the very last arena, ofc using the shield to survive the escape too

now which master level should I try next, probably Mars Core

[azure oriole]

wrong person

[real holly]

what

[real holly]

@austere bronze

[dusky estuary]

wym second iteration

https://tenor.com/view/megosztható-horse-raining-downpour-gif-13970826

[gloomy solar]

Yo, how do you get the zombie slayer?

[violet zealot]

That's the neat part, you don't

Your best bet is to contact support, but there's no normal way to do so.

[gloomy solar]

oh

[azure oriole]

dont worry they'll also give you the “rare” 25th anniversary slayer skin

[fringe torrent]

Eternal is split into 4

[graceful current]

Eternal is 3 in the files

And Tag 1 and 2 are “4” and “5” I think…?

[fringe torrent]

Oh right sorry

It's 3am I just woke up my bad

[graceful current]

But those are expansions so if we are counting expansions then Doom II has like 5 million episodes

[graceful current]

All good lol

[fringe torrent]

It has a lot of expansions

But it'd be like below 10 probably

[graceful current]

Are we counting Final Doom as an expansion or as a separate game

[fringe torrent]

Seperate game

[graceful current]

What about legacy of rust

[fringe torrent]

6 I believe

[fringe torrent]

Expansion

[graceful current]

so that’s 5 episodes with II and LoR

NRFTL would make it 6

what about the master levels?

[kind pier]

which cosmetic packs should i buy, i already have doomnicorn

specifically a slayer skin that a lot of mods use thats locked behind cosmetic dlc

[terse sparrow]

Idk what u mean by thay

[green bough]

Does the tyrant have a sound? Everytime there's an encounter with one there's always that chime or tone

In the music

[graceful current]

what chime

[green bough]

idk it's hard to explain the sound

https://youtu.be/ZYncTqJEeHI?t=3250

i time stamped it

[lusty lark]

do you mean the sound which is similar to an alert when he aim his laser at you?

[green bough]

THATS WHAT THAT IS OHHH

25 hours and had no idea what that was, will make un runs easier

thank you

[graceful current]

checking now and it seems like horde mode is episode 6

[austere bronze]

oh awesome :D

you probably already tried it, but yeah, mars core is a good next step

[azure oriole]

holy shit no softlock in immora un

this has to be a miracle…

[polar osprey]

ITS TEH URN

[azure oriole]

i dont believe you

[young mango]

30FPS hot key for this consistently

[azure oriole]

lmao

[azure oriole]

I've died to the ultra nightmare super gore nest so many times, always on the same stupid poison thingy part!!!

With the two funny guys.

use the berserk powerup from the previous room and the seek and destroy rune

[graceful current]

Is there a Beserk in SGN?

I’m pretty sure that’s only in the master level

[azure oriole]

I cannot find the video that shows how to do it 😭

https://youtu.be/ZITUqNxML7M?si=4341rV9ODW6_um5y

6:22

If you get near the berserk powerup but without picking it you can trigger the spawns

If you know how to single dash you can reach both marauders with barely enough time

[graceful current]

Yeah that’s the master level

[polar osprey]

you can also cheese them by shooting them while theyre in the air and above something that hurts the player and puts them on proper land

[graceful current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642730879852085281/1363113327714111788/image.png?ex=6804d9b6&is=68038836&hm=695b93209b0e46174264c939e2b0adaf436e097194a0a055b1dd6965ba9d4c58&

it does not </3

which i guess makes sense, 2016 doesn't split into episodes as neatly as eternal

[fringe torrent]

Yeah all the boss fights are right up against the end

[wide citrus]

holy hell

doom eternal is a pain at the first three level

[vernal kayak]

Cultist base is the first major hurdle to get past, you still don’t have your full arsenal and you’re up against heavy hitters like Mancubi

[wide citrus]

cultist base is not the hardest tbh, personally i find the very first slayer gates is the hardest

you have no aoe weapons and fight against a dozen imps, and literally there is no way to quick clear them (if you accidentally pick the stun beam on plasma rifle)

on top of two fucking dread knight that is

but from that on it is very enjoyable now the ssg and missiles in your hand

in the early game stun beam sucks really bad, no stagger, enemy explosion is weak, dont be me pick stun beam at exultia

[oblique topaz]

ong that slayer gate is so annoying

[vernal kayak]

Imps and gargoyles everywhere

[sage axle]

Has anyone else been severely disappointed by ultrakill?

[austere bronze]

i wasn't disappointed, but it wasn't really for me

i am going to try get to the orange door, looks rad :p

[robust nacelle]

early game stun beam and auto shotgun is really for style points

stickies are your main workhorse till you get the ssg

[azure oriole]

Full auto is good against arachnotrons in hell on earth but that's pretty much it

[austere bronze]

full auto is good before you get the hot swapper, because it's the source with the highest dps

then it's good again when you master it

mwb is probably at its best in early game

[vernal kayak]

DMC style meter mod when

[austere bronze]

just play in a fun and "good" way and the style comes naturally lol

swapping between weapons, mods, moving fast, getting into the air, single dashing etc

[robust nacelle]

if under the mayo was more of a hack

[vernal kayak]

Mayo when a new FPS game doesn’t play exactly like Eternal (it’s unplayable)

[dusky estuary]

no meathook = unplayable

[azure oriole]

Under the mayo trying not to rip on Ultrakill (basically DOOM's lil bro)

https://tenor.com/view/guy-limbs-restricted-kneeling-on-the-floor-screaming-sped-up-gif-14767206172411155766

[robust nacelle]

I used to be a fan of him but playing the way he popularized during the ancient gods era with remote detonate and microwave beam combos made me actually hate the game after awhile

https://tenor.com/view/under-the-mayo-fortnite-meowscles-meowscles-fortnite-peter-griffin-gif-17331108300737201756

[dusky estuary]

never heard of this guy

lets do a google search

[robust nacelle]

I envy you

[dusky estuary]

not for long you won't

[azure oriole]

the first thing i'd do to Mayo if i ever got powere

https://tenor.com/view/tv-prime-invincible-omni-man-gif-3474718432791073197

[dusky estuary]

'The Slow Ages' 😭

god damn all this guy does is whine

[azure oriole]

'Under the shit'

[vernal kayak]

Never liked him to begin with, I always saw him as an obnoxious elitist

[dusky estuary]

never really heard of anyone in the doom community

[azure oriole]

'Under the Blowjob'

Watch Midnight, he's actually the GOAT

[polar osprey]

he made a new video being excited about it

[dusky estuary]

i knew about Raitro_ and midnight or whatever his name is

[dusky estuary]

zero way this is unironic

[vernal kayak]

When will Midnight review Pol.Wad

[azure oriole]

don kno

[azure oriole]

It's not

[dusky estuary]

when will midnight review clickbait.wad

[gray rivet]

Wasn't that only after he got a free helmet?

[vernal kayak]

“THIS IS VERY ILLEGAL”

[polar osprey]

yeah hes clearly biased

fuck that guy

[robust nacelle]

midnight doing his 8th apology video for clickbait content (he's gonna do it again)

[azure oriole]

eh, it's fine

[dusky estuary]

oh i cant say that here

[polar osprey]

it is completely fair for UTM to not be nearly as excited for tda as he was for eternal

[azure oriole]

for the content

[polar osprey]

becuase eternal was basically the game that gave him a platform

he was one of the people who tested in the 6.66 update, eternal has had an impact on his life that tda would never get close to

[dusky estuary]

the 'feminist doom review' is what got him the most views

[polar osprey]

you are missing the point

[robust nacelle]

game journalist le owned

[polar osprey]

that was clearly a joke video by the looks of the title of it

[azure oriole]

Naw haven't u seen that one video whining about how we killed a pedo in a horror game

[dusky estuary]

it was not

[polar osprey]

ok cool

[dusky estuary]

i watched it

[polar osprey]

clearly we gotta criticise him for it

anyways, eternal gave him a platform, he had a podcast that hugo even went on

[dusky estuary]

its the same "dogging on review i dont agree with" slop that happened when doom eternal first came out

[polar osprey]

tda will not have as large of an impact on him as eternal did, and it never will

[polar osprey]

and what are you doing right now?, dogging on a guy becuase you dont agree with him

[dusky estuary]

yes but im not making a twenty minute slop video about it

[polar osprey]

youre doing the same thing, video or not doesnt really matter

[robust nacelle]

make sure to add the soyjak in the thumbnail

[polar osprey]

also yeah youtube pays the bills bro dont be surprised if theres slop videos

everyone makes those, its just like clickbait, everybody does it, good or bad

of course, not every single person clickbaits, but you get the point

[dusky estuary]

? okay dude

[azure oriole]

doomtuber slop

[vernal kayak]

Doomslop

[azure oriole]

true

[dusky estuary]

doom the slop ages

[azure oriole]

i agree

[polar osprey]

yeah half the features are probably half baked

just like tag 1 and 2

[dusky estuary]

yeah its slower than eternal so its bad

[robust nacelle]

250 fov
max film grain
the only thing they fear is you playing
somehow doing the exact same glory kill everytime
oh yeah doom tube time

[polar osprey]

you can make it as fast or faster than eternal

[azure oriole]

certified hood classic

[dusky estuary]

nope its slower than eternal so its gonna be bad

[polar osprey]

so true

[vernal kayak]

Don’t forget obnoxious camera movement and quickswapping

[polar osprey]

doom 2016 is bad, slower than eternal

[dusky estuary]

doom 93 is bad

[polar osprey]

i fuckin hate quickswapping

[robust nacelle]

anime girl in sniper scope

[dusky estuary]

slower than eternal

[polar osprey]

fr. slow as hell

[vernal kayak]

Tetris is bad

Slower than Eternal

[azure oriole]

femboy in sniper scope

[polar osprey]

minecaft is bad

slower than eternal