doom-eternal

[kind patio]

I can't do it at all, to say the least-

[fiery dagger]

how easy is it to install mods like master levels.

i always thought it was really complicated

[austere bronze]

oh no it's really easy lol, you can do it in maybe 5 clicks

[fiery dagger]

do you need the id studio?

[austere bronze]

here's how to do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fEFwZ1_4s

[fiery dagger]

bet

[nimble lantern]

Creía que era el único español acá:v

[wooden citrus]

yo tambien

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-doom-slayer-doomguy-lunar-party-dance-gif-27238260

[wooden citrus]

but i have it downloaded on epic games, not on steam

[austere bronze]

the official way to get mods is only available on steam, idk if the mod injector works on epic games

I didn't even know it was possible to get DE there lol

[wooden citrus]

i bought it on epic games because it was cheaper than on steam.

it was underpriced.

[flat tusk]

YO GUYS

I FINALLY GOT THE SKULL FACE SKIN

[austere bronze]

Nice

[young mango]

Actually funnily enough mod portal is on the Microsoft store release of doom eternal as well for some strange reason

That playerbase of like 10 people is really thriving right now

[austere bronze]

Oh wow, there must've been an update with it then

Or I am just making shit up

[azure oriole]

@young mango Probably cause Microsoft owns Bethesda. Best to have the steam version IMO.

[fringe torrent]

It's the second most popular release of the game on PC

[polar osprey]

theres 2 methods

only one needs steam

[young mango]

Really? I swear that release just came out a few months ago

[fringe torrent]

December 1st, 2020 was wayyy more than a few months ago

[young mango]

damn I guess just nobody talks about it then

I was only aware of its existence when that mod portal stuff happened

[fringe torrent]

DOOM Eternal, did land on EGS however a few months ago, probably what you're thinking of

[polar osprey]

at first i got doom eternal from smoeone who got a free key from the xbox membership thing, after playing it i was like "damn these people deserve atleast some of my money" so i bought the deluxe edition on steam on sale

[dire tapir]

in general try to buy your games through steam, there's things like workshop content that's impossible to access through epic games, steam is an infinitely better launcher than epic
(also doom eternal goes for like 5 dollars for me when it's on sale idk about your currency tho)

[wooden citrus]

alguen quiere jugar doom

[steel loom]

What's y'all's favorite demon in domm eternal

[austere bronze]

Carcass and dread knight

[desert sable]

none. all are demons, all deserve to die

[young mango]

My favorite demon in doom eternal is probably the mancubus

[azure oriole]

Cursed prowler

[lusty wind]

Cacodemon all the way

[austere bronze]

It's honestly a bit boring IMO

Possessed cacos are neat though

[violet zealot]

Honestly, my personal list is in this order

• GOG
• Steam
• PlayStation
• Anywhere else

[flat tusk]

THX sorry for responding late

[dire tapir]

does gog give you access to eternal's mod support tho

[graceful trail]

How does the gunpletionist acheivment work?

i have all the guns mastered but it still isnt given it to me

[violet zealot]

Sadly Eternal isn’t even on GOG

Every other Doom game besides 2016 and Eternal are on there

[cedar wolf]

What do you people think of Santa doom slayer

[austere bronze]

cool skin, but the equipment launcher ruins it for me

[static relic]

Que rollo pleves

[cedar wolf]

I just checked how long I been playing doom

It has been 6 hours

[polar osprey]

i have a really fucked up idea for a modded doom eternal creature, but its basically a reskinned bigger and more resistant archvile that summons two archviles that have the effects that an archvile gives to enemies he spawns

[dire tapir]

do all series skins come back? i've heard they all come back but i'm not 100% sure

[violet zealot]

They might?

Minus the ones that you need to pay for, of course

[dire tapir]

yeah ofc

[polar osprey]

we dont know

[dire tapir]

have at least all the weapon skins returned?

(not special events btw)

im only interested in the red halloween super shotgun which i guess comes back every halloween like the christmas skins?

[austere bronze]

Much of the custom AI is essentially like this

20k HP mancubus🙂

[polar osprey]

what the fuck

[austere bronze]

We also got such bangers as:
The behemoth, it has twice as much HP as a normal tyrant, and you can't lock-on, meathook or microwave beam it (not in all versions of it, but usually that's how it go) and to just make it peak it can fill half an arena in AoE stuff (again, not in all versions, but usually)
And I can't forget the superheavy carcass which has the HP of a baron or something, and it spaws 20 meter wide shields along with ghost tyrants

[polar osprey]

what the actual fuck

[austere bronze]

Usually custom AI is not too common, but it is annoying 90% of the time

[polar osprey]

thats fair

[idle gate]

Anyone else here play Eternal on PS4?

[brittle ferry]

No i play on xbox

[neat cargo]

does anyone here play doom eternal on a nintendo switch?

[jolly kernel]

anyone else uses the Crucible on just Arch-Viles and barely any other enemy? lol

[austere bronze]

I think that's pretty common

[neat cargo]

what’s the easiest way to kill the archvile because i’m in tara’s nabad and im crashing out

[fiery dagger]

freeze him

[austere bronze]

ice grenade+2 lock-on bursts

[fiery dagger]

lock on spam

[austere bronze]

it's a boring strat (IMO), but it's the easiest

it also heavily relies on the ice grenade which isn't optimal

[dire tapir]

i tried playing doom eternal on my switch and it was unbearable, it's not a good port😭

i fell through the ground like thrice and got soft locked in the 2nd level

[young mango]

30FPS on game with frame dependent physics😢

[neat cargo]

i’m still playing and that hasn’t happend to me

[dire tapir]

at least my switch can run doom eternal with higher graphics than my pc lmao but it's still better to play on pc

[neat cargo]

true

[dire tapir]

i hope not, it ruined my experience

[neat cargo]

i can’t beat the last level of the campaign though i hate taras nabad

[young mango]

For some reason they thought it’d be a good idea to make the cutscenes play in a different aspect ratio and Lower framerate so they could ever-so-slightly increase the graphics quality

waiter waiter more 15fps cutscenes please

[fringe torrent]

At least classic DOOM is good on the system... oh nevermind

[dire tapir]

if only the switch port was good💔

i wouldn't even play it anyway because switching weapons with the weapon wheel is kinda annoying

im surprised they didn't implement a way to set a weapon bind for your controller

[young mango]

They did

[dire tapir]

at least the weapon wheel is customizable ig

WAIT REALLY THAT'S AWESOMESAUCE

LOL

how did i not notice that in the binds im so stupid😭

[fringe torrent]

Like the only good Switch DOOMs are 3 and 64

Funny system

[young mango]

I wouldnt go as far to call it a recent feature given how long ago it was implemented, but the ability to rebind buttons like that was only added in 6.66 iirc

[fringe torrent]

Would be funny if they botched 64 though

[jolly kernel]

unless if you are so broke that you can't buy even decent 90s PC equipment, anything you own can run Classic Doom

[fringe torrent]

In the Switch's case it's not about hardware with classic DOOM

[jolly kernel]

playing Doom Eternal on a console must be pain

[fringe torrent]

It's fine

[jolly kernel]

it's like, the perfect example of a game that benefits from being played with keyboard and mouse

[fringe torrent]

It's not as flexible but it's not bad either

[jolly kernel]

console players quickswap via the weapon wheel

[fringe torrent]

Muscle memory can make that fast too

[jolly kernel]

I sometimes think of getting either a switch or a steam deck. being able to play so many games you like on a portable console must be good

people say that you actually CAN damage Marauders without their eyes flashing green via splash damage

that doesn't sound effective imo

[young mango]

I’m not going to lie and say console isn’t a disadvantage but with enough practice the gap in the playing field gets a lot smaller

And yeah splash damage isn’t very effective but it doesn’t take much damage at all to make them vulnerable to being foot ballista’d

I cant attest to the practicality of this on console but there’s always distracting them with the LOB if needbe

[fallen heart]

yeeeee...but its not

you can play DE with whatever u feel most compfortable with

[tidal cosmos]

So, I may or may not be getting better at this game.

[pseudo hare]

Is there a site documenting cut content for this game and 2016 the cutting room floor page seems incomplete

[vagrant narwhal]

Combo for tyrant?

[austere bronze]

There really is none that's very applicable in normal combat, since you usually won't be killing one in a single go

They don't do a lot and have tons of HP, making it way better to slowly kill them by intermittently shooting at them

[tidal cosmos]

Burst Rocket Twice, SSG or Blood Punch, and Balista. This is my combo

[austere bronze]

You generally want to just keep moving and dealing a bit of damage to each demon as you go

[austere bronze]

Even if you did both the SSG and blood punch, you're lacking over 2000 damage for a stagger

[tidal cosmos]

I see. I'm probably forgetting something I do in my combos, then. I'm pretty sure it's aero blast, then the rest of my combo

[austere bronze]

Aero blast? Do you mean arbalest?

[tidal cosmos]

ye.

[austere bronze]

It may be that this combo works for you because the tyrant has been damage via splash or something

That's still too little damage, assuming the tyrant is at full health

[tidal cosmos]

That might be the case.

[austere bronze]

Anyhow, I feel like I'm finally getting good at using remote detonation

[tidal cosmos]

I still need to get used to using that mod.

[austere bronze]

I can see if a rocket is going to miss and then detonate it, I can shoot it at another/other enemies than what I'm currently dealing with and it synergizes well with frag grenades and the break blast rune

It's honestly very fun

[tidal cosmos]

I am getting better at using meathook and meathook points

[placid pumice]

What’re the best weapons to use against the IOS?

[tidal cosmos]

thinking about trying the brawler mode mod

[austere bronze]

Oo nice, the meathook is awesome

[austere bronze]

Just any random combo is good I'd say

[tidal cosmos]

just shoot at it's limbs until it's armor or flesh is gone. Use whatever combo works best for you.

[placid pumice]

Alright

Thanks mates

[tidal cosmos]

welcome

Happy Slaying

[austere bronze]

I don't like that at all, it's pretty boring IMO

[tidal cosmos]

what i thought

I kinda want tio see what it would be like to fight terraria and Calamity bosses with Doom Eternal comat

[stuck canopy]

hello

[tidal cosmos]

I'm literally imagining trying to dodge Calamitas' bullet hells using the meathook

[tidal cosmos]

Hi

how are you?

[stuck canopy]

good how are you?

[austere bronze]

Hello👋

Enjoying Eternal lately?

[stuck canopy]

yes

[tidal cosmos]

Amazing!

[stuck canopy]

I just now started playing the PC version of Doom Eternal, after playing the Playstation version!

[tidal cosmos]

How are you enjoying the PC Version so far? Are the controls easy to understand?

[austere bronze]

Ah, nice

PC is an upgrade for sure

[tidal cosmos]

true

On consol, i could only do one type of combo

[stuck canopy]

It's great especially because of ray tracing. My Playstation won't handle it.

[tidal cosmos]

I got a potato PC rn, and yet I'm able to Run Eternal mods, minecraft mods, terraria mods, with barely any trouble. I still want to upgrade, though

[stuck canopy]

I'm trying to finish Doom Eternal before I start modding. I'll be right back.

[tidal cosmos]

Understandable

[young mango]

Pb rocket, unironically; the resistances are skewed in such a way where the faster combo speed starts being an advantage over something like pb ssg, because they’re closer in damage against the icon

[stuck canopy]

Back.

Later, maybe you wanna play Battlemode 2.0?

[full storm]

I have a problem if you can help me I just bought the game on epic game but when I launch it it shows me unspecified vulkan error

[stuck canopy]

Are your drivers up to date?

[tidal cosmos]

I'm eating rn. Maybe battlemode later

[full storm]

yes on the internet they asked me to put myself in studio driver but that doesn't work either

[stuck canopy]

Yeah, I have to eat too.

[full storm]

the game is compatible with my pc because I already played it with the xbox game pass

[stuck canopy]

Are you using windows?

[full storm]

yep

[stuck canopy]

Re-verified the game?

[full storm]

uninstall and reinstall

[stuck canopy]

Press on the three dots next to the game name and press manage - verify files

You can try reinstall also if that doesn't work idk what will.

[full storm]

ok thank i try now

[stuck canopy]

No problem.

[ember widget]

Hey I wanna get into the doom games and about to start doom 2016 and eternal would I benefit from playing Nightmare on my first playthrough? cause I mostly want too

[polar osprey]

mmmmno

[waxen hatch]

If your experienced with first person shooters and like a challenge than go for it, but if your not that experienced than go lower like hurt me plenty

[polar osprey]

doom eternal and 2016 will not stop any punches

you will have to use what you have

[ember widget]

Im gonna do it

[waxen hatch]

You can change the difficulty at any time (except for Ultra Nightmare), so use that if needed

[ember widget]

Naw

[waxen hatch]

You’ll experience why we say Nightmare isn’t for a first playthrough, good luck

[polar osprey]

you can maybe argue that ultra violence can be a first

but there is a VERY CLEAR DIFFERENCE between each difficulty

[ember widget]

Been playing fps games my whole life I’ll learn from my deaths

[polar osprey]

its not just increased enemy hp and tankiness

more enemies can attack at once, and they are more aggressive

[waxen hatch]

Death is back to a checkpoint, so no real punishment there

Ultra Nightmare sends you back to the start of the campaign

[polar osprey]

if you want real punishment you can do ultra nightmare which is just hardcore

[ember widget]

Maybe after a few nightmare playthroughs

[waxen hatch]

It challenges you to be focused on the fight instead of just shooting everything you can

[polar osprey]

nightmare enemies deal 200% damage, give me violence deal 100%, and hurt me plenty deal 70%

ultra nightmare is same as nightmare damage

[waxen hatch]

But permadeath and no difficulty changing make it hard

Well the inability to change the difficulty doesn’t make UN hard, but it takes away a possible way to prevent death

[ember widget]

But will doing Nightmare from the start help me adapt and get better faster than at easier difficulties? just asking but im gonna do it regardless

[austere bronze]

The optimal thing to do is pick a difficulty that challenges you, but you don't want each arena to take tons of tries

I started on ITYTD and worked my way up

You don't have to increase the difficulty only on new campaigns

[young mango]

I started at ITYTD as well, and barely scraped by at that

[stuck canopy]

I started at HMP

pretty hard though.

[vagrant narwhal]

Alr thanks

[tidal cosmos]

might not be enough damage, though. Look up tyrant combos. I hope you can kill that big bastard

[vagrant narwhal]

Thanks man his defense is so annoying

Im marauder #1 hater

[stuck canopy]

I kinda found a console?

[tidal cosmos]

it's a love hate relationship for me. I love how the devs wanted to add a new enemy, but hate how weird they coded his AI

[vagrant narwhal]

Gut feeling they didnt had any ideas left for new enemy so they just made the stone imp

[tidal cosmos]

That's how I feel with the Cursed Prowler

[polar osprey]

i started at hmp, shit got me fucked up

but then i learnt that john hugo gave us extra lives and where to find them

and thats how i 80% a run each time i go through it

[polar osprey]

but now im doing hmp master campaign (master campaign by delta)

which has an empowered archvile in the super gore nest main arena, so thats gonna be fun

extra lives spent are my fault, i didnt utilize the arena enough

i try to corner a foe that cannot be cornered

[knotty quiver]

Can someone help me with completing cultist base on ultra nightmare. Is there even any point in completing any of the optional fights? Will it affect my playthrough later?

[polar osprey]

just choose the correct gun module and you wont need to do optionals

[austere bronze]

In my opinion, people generally utilize the arena too little
Monkey bars are underrated😤

[polar osprey]

oh fucking true

very thoughtful of all the architects who created all the areas to make the arenas a playground for the slayer

[tidal cosmos]

I agree. I use the monkey bars a lot

[stuck canopy]

Cacodemon is so annoying

[tidal cosmos]

true

[stuck canopy]

you can't use the mini missiles from the heavy cannon for it's weak point... I learned from experience 😭

[violet zealot]

to me they're not even enemies in Eternal

they're just too easy to stagger

[tidal cosmos]

They're just meathook points

[violet zealot]

also, the game does explicitly state the sticky bomb or frag nade for the weakpoint iirc

[young mango]

you know, I wouldn’t say I don’t use monkey bars, but I do often forget they exist

[knotty quiver]

They do have the ability to one shot you in the earlier levels.

Can't ignore them

[violet zealot]

and I don't, I pop them with a frag or sticky before they can cause any trouble

I put them high on my priority not because they're hard to kill, more because of the exact opposite

[knotty quiver]

They are free health once you know their spawn locations

It's the whiplashes that give me the most trouble honestly

[stuck canopy]

I'm a newbie so I cannot kill them without SOME struggle.

[polar osprey]

very easy to deal with thankfully

[polar osprey]

fuck these pieces of shit, i LOB immediately

[violet zealot]

Fuck Whiplashes

[polar osprey]

i love the LOB, my favorite "fuck that heavy in particular" weapon

[young mango]

Idek why the frag exists for the purpose, hmmmm use 1 shell out of an ammo pool of 24 or expend an entire frag which takes 10 seconds to replenish at best and has a higher bar for execution because it has more gravity to it? What to do…

[polar osprey]

free health and shield pack if you light it on fire before doing a gk

[knotty quiver]

The shield soldiers are also no joke. Lost my ultra nightmare run just now to one of those mfs

[polar osprey]

oh fuck these guys too

[austere bronze]

Ah nice

[polar osprey]

i just put a shotgun nade behind them

[knotty quiver]

I swear it's these earlier levels that give me the most trouble

[polar osprey]

and bloodpunch or gk

[polar osprey]

well thats the case for games like terraria or the planet crafter too

[violet zealot]

Yeah, there's no reason to waste a frag for it

[polar osprey]

the start is always a pain

id say the game really starts kicking after SGN

or, you really start kicking it

[austere bronze]

A surprising amount use frag grenades for it😭

[knotty quiver]

You're untouchable once you get the mastery for that thing

Instant armor

[polar osprey]

wait which one is that

ohh right

yeah i love that gun

[knotty quiver]

Ikr. How long have you been playing the game for?

[polar osprey]

uhh

40 hours on steam

and i did a playthrough on the microsoft store version since i got it for free there

so probably 50 ish

[young mango]

I like how being staggered twice by the sticky bomb the cacodemon is left with virtually 0 health

[knotty quiver]

60 for me

[polar osprey]

well ur practically cooking it's insides

twice

turning a cacodemon into a shitty pipebomb

[stuck canopy]

I'm at Fortress of Doom finally

going to the northern hell priest

[knotty quiver]

💀💀

[fallen heart]

does anyone know if the secret with the 5 marauders in the world spear mission is still in the game?

[knotty quiver]

Good luck on that man

[austere bronze]

It is

[fallen heart]

ok thx

[stuck canopy]

what is the ripatorium? Prison?

thx

[civic spruce]

I'm makeing a top down shooter and I need weapon ideas

Heeeelp :d

[stuck canopy]

minigun

shotgun

Assault Rifle

@civic spruce

[civic spruce]

Those are being implemented lol

I need like fiction weapons

Like the bfg or smth

Not the bfg obviously but smthn cool

[violet zealot]

Why ask in here, though? #general makes more sense.
Anyways, a handcannon.

[civic spruce]

Idk why I asked here but
A hand cannon does sound sick

[smoky mountain]

Combining anything with a chainsaw will never not make it cooler

[civic spruce]

A gun that shoot chain saws

[midnight sparrow]

Living gun. Something similar to the Reaper from DOOM 2016’s multiplayer

Mix of that flesh and bone

[steel loom]

Which doom game is or will be the best

[violet zealot]

Doom 1 full stop.

[steel loom]

Why

[violet zealot]

Levels are mostly fine, gameplay works well, and a good amount of content with a single game (not including mods, which then Doom 2 beats it out)

[austere bronze]

I think Eternal because I like its style

and it is genuinely a good game

[austere bronze]

holy shit, 2022 was the year of the baseness apparently
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1325628781209063454/image.png?ex=677c7b82&is=677b2a02&hm=129d4c5baad175b40cbd18ce44dcaca0386fe859ae0f5aa25ca3ebc48a4e7c68&

I didn't even know I had DE back then lol

@violet zealot I told you I'd get that 93% higher...

[violet zealot]

Okay...

[vagrant narwhal]

Easiest way to beat ultra nightmare?

I only want the gold slayer ngl

[waxen hatch]

If i recall correctly you can increase damage to player, so you could probably turn it down too, but that does take away the feeling of the achievement

[azure oriole]

Just use one of the item unlocker mods

[azure oriole]

Don't you think asking this in the doom eternal channel would give you a biased answer lol

[young mango]

G_damagescaleaitoslayer 0 moment

Also the gold slayer isn’t really all that visually appealing, and a lot of people concur with that, im under the impression the gold skin is wanted under the pretense that there was a successful UN clear that happened, but at the end of the day it’s not monumental enough to care that much about if somebody wants to do that

[azure oriole]

Switch port is ass

My god quick switching isn’t even that fast

[young mango]

Comparative to what? I’m sure that’s probably one of the things impacted the least in that port

[azure oriole]

having hotbinds on pc is faster for no reason

I can’t properly damage the marauder in a secret encounter

[young mango]

I mean i wouldn’t have expected that to be the reasoning, seems like switch port is being singled out in that regard considering that’s just how console ports are in general

[azure oriole]

I haven’t played the other ports

But why does the switch to previous weapon button not switch as fast as hotbinds?

why does the winter event have to last for 59 more days

im gonna have 100 million extra event xp by then

[violet zealot]

Spare Change?

[azure oriole]

gonna kill the gladiator in anger

i wish i could skip the traversal and go straight to the bossfight

the gladiator is just my personal aim trainer at this point

i just spam PB+ballista at him until death

[azure oriole]

Why no super shotgun

[azure oriole]

dont wanna get too close

[azure oriole]

If i had to guess it would be because the button for weapon wheel is the same button as switch to previous weapon. This means that it only registers an input when you release the button, instead of when you press it. I'm not a PC player, so I have no idea if I'm right about this, so anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but let me put it like this. Let's say you have the "5" button on your keyboard bound to your SSG. As soon as that button is pressed down, the PC gets an input and switches to the SSG. Meanwhile, on console, when you press the switch to previous button input, it received the input that the button is pressed, but it can't do anything yet, because it doesn't know if you want to switch to previous weapon or if you want the weapon wheel. It needs to wait until you let go of the button before it can register it as an input and choose between the two options depending on how long you held the button for. So the reason it takes much longer than hotbinds is because of it being a "release bind" rather than a "press bind." If you're using a wired keyboard on PC and a wireless controller on switch, that could also factor into the delay a small amount.

[dire tapir]

yeah this is how it works, i've played a lot a game that also does the same previous weapon is the same as weapon wheel thing

[urban nimbus]

is it good to beat the Ultra Nightmare Master lvl with 120hours game time, it was super core nest

[austere bronze]

That's pretty good, yeah

[urban nimbus]

yeah oke, the gold skin is also the only good looking combat-shotgun skin in my opinion

[azure oriole]

Fr

[dire tapir]

i like the mastered combat shotgun skin, the green one

[austere bronze]

I use modded skins for all my weapons except the ballista

Plasma rifle, BFG and chaingun are also not modded, but I never pull them out

[polar osprey]

uhh idk if its in game or not, but does the super gore nest have a skull at the very start you can push?

[austere bronze]

No

[polar osprey]

well i pushed that and now theres like 20 cacodemons, idk what to do

[austere bronze]

Lol
Destroyer blade!

[polar osprey]

https://imgur.com/a/Q4vCZaE

ok destroyer blade worked but i used up almost all my plasma so that sucks

[austere bronze]

You can just chainsaw later

Neat hud btw

[polar osprey]

thanks

also goddamn that arena was somehow really fun, loved that shit

had all the enemies except the serious pieces of shit, and was also just straight up a fucking parkour park for the slayer

not for one second was i on low hp

[austere bronze]

I'm starting the master campaign now too

[polar osprey]

it gets really fun once you get the environment down

[austere bronze]

I'm just gonna try to speedrun the first 2 missions

then I'll probably hop on some custom difficulty

[young mango]

Speedrunning mentioned

[austere bronze]

I won't be doing any cool kid speedrunning, unfortunately

and holy shit quick switching without hot swapper feels so weird

[polar osprey]

oh god im at the main gore nest now, im cooked 🙏

[left cosmos]

Oh good luck 😭 I hate that level

[woeful mural]

I hate a lot of the levels or parts of levels in this

this game feels more like 3d super mario as I play through it

[left cosmos]

I don't think I'd ever call eternal 3d super Mario, but.. sure?

[woeful mural]

like sometimes half a mission may just be parkour with a few skirmishes

[austere bronze]

that's certainly... a take

[woeful mural]

and any reasons devs never added the pistol in an update?

[austere bronze]

because it'd be useless and go against the entire resource management thing

[woeful mural]

like just add it in as a starter weapon

similar to doom 2016

[left cosmos]

I suppose the platforming is a bit odd but it's integrated into the game well enough that I (personally) hardly notice it

[young mango]

2020 take 😭

[woeful mural]

doom is about slaughtering hordes of monsters and demons

not parkour

[austere bronze]

the parkour takes literally no time to finish lol

[young mango]

Name a doom game where it was ONLY about killing demons lol

[austere bronze]

yeah, that's why you are slaughtering demons and sometimes doing a few seconds long segment of parkour

[left cosmos]

I like the parkour aspect because it makes it feel like doomguy is actually as powerful as he is 😭 being able to move like that

I love both reboots but in 2016 you feel more helpless

[woeful mural]

and this may sound like a noob question but to my understanding modding in the pistol like people do i heard breaks the game a bit

[left cosmos]

That's just me though probably

[austere bronze]

why do you even want the pistol though

[woeful mural]

jumping a few platforms here and there is in all yes but doom eternal and a few doom 2016 levels takes it to new heights (literally and figuratively)

[young mango]

I mean i wasn’t exclusively talking about platforming there, expecting the experience to be completely unadulterated combat with no buffers is silly

[woeful mural]

why NOT?

joking aside cause it's cool and could come in handy some, could at least be in multiplayer

[young mango]

Considering doom eternal is the most movement centric of the games as far as I’m concerned, having that buffer also be movement related isn’t a bad choice

Fairly rudimentary movement at that

[austere bronze]

if the pistol would come in handy, it means you're not managing resources properly

[woeful mural]

and this may be unpopular too but that BFG segment in Doom 16 felt like something that would be in a puzzle game

[young mango]

Can you believe they wanted to not only add that thing but give it ammo too

I’m so glad they went the shotgun start route

[woeful mural]

oh shit here comes the nerds explaining why the doom 2016 pistol broke the game...

[young mango]

?

[austere bronze]

yes I love spending 100 ammo for 10 damage

[woeful mural]

yeah people literally think the pistol in doom broke the game cause it having unlimited ammo and decent killing power on smaller enemies

[young mango]

Imagine the barge if the pistol start was a thing

[woeful mural]

I was more picturing like still having the shotgun but now having the pistol as a secondary

[austere bronze]

again, it'd be completely useless if you know how to manage resources
and if you don't, it'd incentivice to not learning it properly

[woeful mural]

and like when all weapon ammo is spent instead of chainsaw you swap to the pistol

[austere bronze]

essentially just bad game design to have it in DE

[azure oriole]

pone

[woeful mural]

and can I just get this out of the way? doom eternal some enemy designs are just trash and not as scary as the doom 2016 designs

[young mango]

I mean “trash” might be a bit harsh, it’s a different art style, more arcadey game, “scary” wasn’t the end goal with those designs

[austere bronze]

again, manage your resources and this will never happen

[young mango]

Chainsaw automatically restocking every 20 seconds is good because to run out of every ammo type under that timeframe you have to be legit actively trying

[austere bronze]

yeah, it's basically not possible, you'd have to be neglecting the chainsaw

which is quite common

[polar osprey]

you run out of ammo : calm
there are no fodder enemies : panic!

[austere bronze]

that's why you start thinking about chainsawing long before you run out of ammo🙂

[polar osprey]

also just did the modded master SGN main arena section

[austere bronze]

noice

[polar osprey]

holy fuck

the 2 tyrants from the easter egg are just in the fight

[azure oriole]

giant tyrant that always gets killed by geo

[polar osprey]

theres 2 archviles that spawn also on each side of the map

[woeful mural]

look at some side by side comparisons I just sent in #screenshots

[young mango]

I think I’ve seen those games before yes

[polar osprey]

really?, you think so?

[young mango]

No

[polar osprey]

damn

[woeful mural]

frankly I am not a big fan of the chainsaw mechanics in the newer games, I think it should have been setup as another weapon you can swap to, or all enemies only take up a single fuel bar instead of like some taking one and others requiring 3 or all 5

[young mango]

If all enemies took up a single fuel bar, especially in eternal, you’d have a free diet crucible for basically no cost

[polar osprey]

well, at that point the chainsaw would just be a regenerating crucible blade

literally

[austere bronze]

"yeah, let's make it cost as much to chainsaw a heavy demon as a fodder demon"

[polar osprey]

also, if you ar really up for it, you can mod it in

[austere bronze]

do you realise how... odd that is?

[young mango]

the crucible itself is already useless enough as is it doesn’t need anything making it even more obsolete

[woeful mural]

well they all take about the same amount of time in the animations

[austere bronze]

but one is a free resource pinata and the other is an actually threatening demon

[polar osprey]

well it would be pretty damn boring if it took like 4 seconds to cut down a heavy no?

[azure oriole]

chainsaw in classic doom aint that good tbh

[austere bronze]

my biggest gripe with the chainsaw is the fact that it's a forced animation

[polar osprey]

we can just say that the chainsaw is doing it with a faster rpm and more torque

[polar osprey]

true true

thankfully it seems all sorts of animations like glorykills and otherwise are gonna be gone in TDA tho

well, the animation part

[azure oriole]

Remember when it also didnt work properly?

[austere bronze]

ye, that's very nice

[fringe torrent]

DOOM 3 chainsaw ❤️

[young mango]

Yes I remember today

[woeful mural]

my point is logically they would all take about the same amount of fuel then but you might could say it has to burn more fuel to cut through the bone and thicker flesh or metal parts of larger demons

[young mango]

but yeah no target was even worse on lower patches

Pre 5.0 blood punch 😢

[austere bronze]

yeah because logic is the main focus in a game where punching cancels the reload time and you're fighting demons...

[fringe torrent]

Do we need realism in a game with floating green pickups

[azure oriole]

Someone at id thought it was a good idea to make the chainsaw not work at all if a demon was in the process of doing a jump/climb animation 🤪

[polar osprey]

do we need realism in a game where the main character is practically a fucking god

[young mango]

Someone at id uh insert chainsaw joke here https://youtu.be/DSp-w1EJPfU?si=t1zpyQzuItY3X6_j

[polar osprey]

we need animations to show the slayer putting fuel into the chainsaw, that would be pretty logical instead of him just running over the fuel

[fringe torrent]

Glad to see the tradition of DOOM games being held together by duct tape and hair is still carried over

[austere bronze]

whew, finally done with Exultia

[woeful mural]

this is a game without reload animations except for the super shotgun so you make a point

anyways at least my point stands on the chainsaw it had a better setup in doom 3

[young mango]

Also sky state is the reason the slayer just appears to stop mid air, and since it doesn’t take very much height to achieve, relatively speaking, the 300k-ish speed I picked up here could very easily be a fraction of the apex I would’ve reached otherwise

[austere bronze]

you didn't really say why the chainsaw in DE is bad other than you want another crucible though

[young mango]

A reload animation of 2 shells being stuck in at the same time is not the same as an entire mag being inserted or something mid combat, stands out in the sense that it’s an actual reload but it’s just as fast if not faster than other weapons reloads

[woeful mural]

well it's kind of a waste to use on fodder demons in both 2016 and eternal as they dont drop as much ammo and they are easy to kill, I try to reserve it for the tougher demons but oh big surprise cant even use it cause it requires using 3 bars and only got 2, the chainsaw is mainly used for replenishing ammo from what I can see

[austere bronze]

they drop the exact same amount of ammo as heavies in Eternal

and yeah, of course it's for ammo, you have the crucible to kill tougher enemies with

the chainsaw is just something that's there so you can keep your ammo supplies up, which adds some depth to the combat

[woeful mural]

I'm just going on an opinion that the chainsaw feels underwhelming just like the above mentioned pistol would be, yeah has its uses but given its role and place in previous doom games feels like a disappointment

[austere bronze]

"it has its uses"
it's literally instrumental to the combat loop

without it you'd have no ammo, therefore you'd be unable to kill demons

[woeful mural]

I would have gone with an approach of making the chainsaw function like a standard weapon

like equip it and as you hold it it starts burning through fuel slowly then when using it on an enemy starts burning through it faster and the kill animations would just be additional glory kills from hitting a staggering demon

ammo drops still being a thing obviously

[austere bronze]

that'd function exactly the same as the chainsaw we have now

[polar osprey]

its just like one extra button to press

[austere bronze]

yup lol

[polar osprey]

does the game give you the weapons you just didnt get?

like the minigun

[austere bronze]

if you didn't pick it up, you're given it in the next mission

[polar osprey]

so the next mision?

oh ok good

didnt get the minigun so thats why i asked

[austere bronze]

ah👍

[woeful mural]

I didnt get the gauss gun early or rocket launcher

found the minigun by mistake in the sanctum

[violet zealot]

This is the Eternal channel btw

Just informing you

[woeful mural]

already noticed

[violet zealot]

Alright

[vagrant narwhal]

How you do that

[vagrant narwhal]

Im on xbox

[waxen hatch]

G_damagescaleaitoslayer 0 source Tammie

I don’t know if that’s possible on xbox tho

[left cosmos]

It isn't

[vagrant narwhal]

I just gotta train abit

And maybe if i have a feeling im ready then i try

[worn vale]

What and where do I use mastery tokens?

[fringe torrent]

On weapon masteries, they skip the challenge required to master the specific mod

[spring panther]

you would need a jailbroken xbox to do that

[worn vale]

Where is that

Im on mission 10 and Idk where that is

[fringe torrent]

It's just where your weapons are, when you press tab

[worn vale]

Ohh

Tysm

[azure oriole]

tru

i remember when i was a beginner i looked at that upgrade and thinking "faster weapon swap? thats uselss its already fast"

[austere bronze]

Haha, same!

[vagrant narwhal]

Where i get one 😈

[fringe torrent]

Is it worth risking a console and account ban over a skill issue

[polar osprey]

is it worth risking a console and account ban

over fucking anything?

[fringe torrent]

A lot of things yeah

[azure oriole]

But cheese skin shiny 🥺

[azure oriole]

was playing super gore nest classic master level and i didnt even realize they took my crucible until i found it in the pool

did all that to get the default skin but slightly greener

[wooden citrus]

buenas

[azure oriole]

Any help on combat for ultra violence master level gore nest?

I've been trying to do it but it's been tough when you get to where you put in the keys for the air shaft

[azure oriole]

the first or second time

[azure oriole]

First

[azure oriole]

remind me what's in that encounter i forgot

i know the second time has like 4 arch viles

and 4 tyrants

or maybe that's the first one

[dire tapir]

did they ever fix the fps discrepancies? like the 144 fps meat hook?

[young mango]

No

[strange gale]

fix everything that makes the game good 🌝

[azure oriole]

quickswitching

[floral locust]

hi

i want de onlline archivements

[minor abyss]

Just started my Ultra Nightmare run

I know this bout to be a raging experience

[polar osprey]

well that became a game mechanic

[minor abyss]

Just Finished Exultia On Ultra Nightmare, gonna save the game for now

[austere bronze]

Oh nice

[minor abyss]

I've had alot of moments where I couldve died if I wasn't being careful

[left cosmos]

How do you do it

😭

[minor abyss]

Honestly, I'm surprised myself I haven't died yet

I have too many close calls tho

I bloody hate the Combat shotgun so much tho

I can't wait till I get the Super Shotgun so I can use that instead

[austere bronze]

Why😢

[left cosmos]

Sticky bombs on top

[minor abyss]

Never liked the Combat shotgun

The full auto is pretty much a waste of ammo

Sticky is Ok, but useless after a few levels

Where you instead us Super Shotgun + Ballista, Rocket launcher or Heavy cannon precision scope

[austere bronze]

It is not, it's great to add into your combos or to take care of fodder with it

[austere bronze]

Until you get the mastery, yup

[minor abyss]

Once I get the SSG, I completely stop using the Combat shotgun

I play on controller

So I usually do SSG + heavy cannon and ballista + rocket launcher

[left cosmos]

Suit yourself

[austere bronze]

You can still use stickies

[violet zealot]

And it can give you quite literally the easiest GK for only one shell

[minor abyss]

Oh well

I just hate the Combat shotgun 🤷‍♂️

[austere bronze]

You can do so much cool stuff with it tho😢

[left cosmos]

Sometimes I like to use it almost exclusively for one level to draw it out

[austere bronze]

I personally like to use my entire arsenal

Ot at least what's actually useful

[left cosmos]

I won't lie, I have my mains

[austere bronze]

What are those?

[left cosmos]

Plasma rifle with the heat blast mod and chaingun with the shield

Ssg+ballista for marauders and such but I've only recently gotten okay at quick swapping

[austere bronze]

Ssg+ballista is fine to use if you're new to quick switching, but you'll want to move away from it soon

[austere bronze]

I like the heat blast, but charging it is so boring lol

[left cosmos]

I'll be alright lmao

Been working just fine

[spring panther]

the stickies do more damage than precision bolt on headshot

[austere bronze]

Way more

[spring panther]

twice as much

[austere bronze]

Great thing is how much of it is splash damage

So if you punch cancel 5 headshot stickies, that's almost 4000 splash damage

[void lodge]

The game keeps freezing when i go to for example check discord or something, and whenever i load in i always lag extremely much for a few minutes. I've tried reinstalling the game and chaning the version, but it didn't work. And i've had DOOM Eternal for over a year and this hasn't happened before

[left cosmos]

Maybe your pc needs updates

[void lodge]

Ah

Thanks

[austere bronze]

I got no clue about this stuff, but maybe it's because vertical sync or hdr?

[void lodge]

Thanks but should i have them enabled? or not?

Oh, and every time i change a setting the game freezes too

[austere bronze]

disabled

[austere bronze]

that's odd

[void lodge]

both?

[void lodge]

Yeah

Well atleast i can still play DOOM Eternal, guess i'll just have to ignore everyone until i leave the game if it continues happening

[void lodge]

It worked, tysm

[austere bronze]

oh nice!

[void lodge]

Yeah, i'm still a bit laggy when i start playing but the game doesn't freeze anymore!

[austere bronze]

glad I was at least able to help a bit

[void lodge]

Yeah. Thank youuuu!

[exotic star]

Who speak french

[austere bronze]

I could buy you a baguette

[scarlet venture]

Nuke france

[exotic star]

Vous parlez français

[scarlet venture]

non mais je peux utiliser Google Translate

je parle à un russe via un traducteur

[exotic star]

Ok je voudrais vous demander si l’histoire de doom dark age est la suite de doom eternal

[scarlet venture]

je ne sais pas ce que j'ai entendu dire doom : l'âge des ténèbres est censé avoir lieu avant l'éternel

[exotic star]

Donc c’est DOOM 0

[scarlet venture]

probablement

[azure oriole]

i know a little bit

[signal scarab]

God I forgot just how much fun freezing and burning a group of enemies is then just sentinel hammering them and lagging the game

Also I hadn't played doom eternal for nearly a year first thing my dumb ahh decided to play was rush mode. That last level ....

I mean I got the highest rank so whatever

I know yall probably heared of the the review of the dude who said 2016 > eternal because he somehow finds 2016... faster? Idk but dude was like "why can you burn a freezing enemy and they don't melt its unrealistic" you are playing as a angry dude who rips hell apart

And last thing before I stop yapping. Can someone explain to be what goes on with eternal with all the fractions and all that the maykers, FAC all that I don't get it and this is like my 5th playthough

[fallow tusk]

i finally played doom eternal (thats just it)

[signal scarab]

And?

[fallow tusk]

its fun

[left cosmos]

2016 is unbearably slow compared to eternal

[signal scarab]

Same dude who said all tokens and chainsaw plus crucible should be all the same thing

[signal scarab]

Dude was stupid he's mad that you use the chainsaw to spawn ammo instead of running around the arena

In his video he used the chain gun aganist the marauder

[left cosmos]

"oh nooo cool mechanics"

[fallow tusk]

w h y

[signal scarab]

Look up "why I think doom 2016 is better then doom eternal on youtube" it's generally the worst review

[left cosmos]

I'll spare myself the headache

[signal scarab]

He says that all the tokens should just be all one currency (even though doom eternal has all the same) he said he's mad the chainsaw is no longer a get out of fight free card (crucible does exist)

[signal scarab]

No its not a headache it's just funny.
He says that
Archviles
Buff totems
And
Empowered demons
Should all just be one thing

[fallow tusk]

empowered arch totem

[signal scarab]

And that chainsaw and crucible should be one thing

[left cosmos]

Average fun sucker of the 2016dom

[signal scarab]

Somehow worse then intothemayo batman arkham knight review where he didn't even finish the game and made a review

[fringe torrent]

I cannot read this, can you rewrite it to be readable

[signal scarab]

Ah time to just rail cannon every single fight

... tbf eternal is just Super shotgun, balastia

[left cosmos]

I don't know how else to write it

[austere bronze]

Crazy how no one points out the actual flaws of Eternal

[signal scarab]

https://youtu.be/eeBcMAJRUac?si=5i-nSM4ZD1MViKnx

[fringe torrent]

Well what the heck is a fun sucker of "the 2016dom"

[signal scarab]

Here's the link to the vid if anyone wants a good laugh

[left cosmos]

Fandom of 2016 (doom)

[fringe torrent]

So you basically tried to say "average 2016 fan"?

[left cosmos]

I do like both games though

[austere bronze]

Yeah, many people learn that combo and always use it for everything

[signal scarab]

He plays eternal like 2016. He complains about there being to much tutorials just turn them off bro

[signal scarab]

I somehow know how to do the scope shoot punch thing better on my switch then my Xbox

[austere bronze]

Although there are way better combos ofc

[fringe torrent]

Pb rocket?

[signal scarab]

Worst review I've ever seen

But fr average cry baby "wahhh marauders are to hard" he said using the chaingun on them

[austere bronze]

Essentially anything pb
Pb rocket, pb ballista, pb sticky bomvs, pb ssg
And then combinations of those along with punch cancels

[fallow tusk]

if i remember well isnt there a tutorial on how to kill marauders in game

[signal scarab]

The only time I hate marauders is ither when they are buffed or spirited

[signal scarab]

It says when you first meet them wait for the bright flash then shoot with a heavy shotgun

[fringe torrent]

Doesn't it say with a strong damage output or something along those lines, not necessarily the shotgun

[fallow tusk]

so basically hes saying that the game is bad cuz he is bad

[signal scarab]

Game bad because me bad at game

[signal scarab]

Fair

I still remember my sad first playthrough of 2016 I used the pistol and supershot way more than I should've

[austere bronze]

They still aren't hard though...

Meathook exists

[signal scarab]

They aren't but I get distracted easy

Also I forgot how HORRIFYING spirited pinkys are

[austere bronze]

During my first and only playthrough of Eternal I literally never used the super shotgun lol

[signal scarab]

Lol

I'm bad at doom eternal I only super super shotgun batista and sometimes sniper

I suck at quick swapping off the first 2 weapons

Alright boys enough dumb talk what runes yall run plus support runes

[fringe torrent]

Casually I go with air control, the glory kill time expand and distance expand runes, and the extra life saving support rune, though with UN attempts I switch it up a bit, haven't attempted in a while so don't remember what my loadout there was except for the support rune being the double damage blood punch

[signal scarab]

Me personally
Speed up after glory kill
Better air mobility
Launch into glory kill from farther away
Damaging Shockwave after destroying a crit spot (I don't find use in the other support runes)

[austere bronze]

Air control
Equipment fiend
Dazed and confused
Break blast support rune (or whatever it's called)

I use to use savagery, but I glory kill so little to the point where it's negligible

The first 2 are definitely the right choice in my opinion, but the second 2 are up for personal opinion

[waxen hatch]

I used the air control one on my first playthroughs, but don’t use it anymore since I’ve found that the little bit there is without is enough for me (I mostly dash when I want to drastically change direction)

[lusty lark]

Then explain why do you use /killai when you get a marauder encounter Haha

[versed radish]

Hey does anyone playing doom eternal downloaded from epic games because mine doesnt launch tried everithing?

Ive tried every settings possible…?is it maybe that ive bought beta version and cant get verified?!

Ive tried all things to change 3rd day messing araund?

[austere bronze]

Damn, you caught me... I got a massive skill issue

I can barely kill a marauder
https://youtu.be/E-uaL35JAro?si=LB5Ym9whh8ap_ogC

[lusty lark]

Caught in 1080p lol

[austere bronze]

So true

[dusk sleet]

You know what else is massive?

[austere bronze]

Oh god

Why has the brainrot chosen me

[dusk sleet]

LOWWWW TAPPEEERR FADEEE

[austere bronze]

Wow, that sure was a plot twist

[dusk sleet]

Indeed, isn't it?

[polar osprey]

i just really learnt how to quickswitch, and holy fuck

[weary moat]

[polar osprey]

made the modded master campaign much easier

[austere bronze]

Oh nice

[young mango]

Fast as hell + barrier of death bypass 😢

[austere bronze]

+can't deal with a jump

I think most possessed demons are more challenging than a pinky

[young mango]

yeah true but they’re still annoying

but not much more than many other enemies are

It’s main weaknesses are defended pretty good by being possessed

[timber widget]

Can anyone help me and my friend please with some trophy’s for doom eternal

[azure oriole]

pinky is absolutely pathetic unless you dont have any blood punch

same with the specter

[young mango]

I mean unless you’re using the e-shield using a blood punch on a possessed pinky is a very poor choice

[azure oriole]

oh i thought he ment the og pinky

possessed pinkys are tuff

[austere bronze]

I almost never blood punch pinkies

[young mango]

Yeah well you should blood punch the left pinky

[austere bronze]

Only if I'm in a tight spot

[austere bronze]

Omg...😭

That's equivalent to a rocket

That'd hurt a teeny tiny bit

[azure oriole]

regular pinkys?

[austere bronze]

Yeah

[azure oriole]

why not

[austere bronze]

Unnecessary to come down from the air to blood punch one

[azure oriole]

fair

[polar osprey]

i do, they deserve the fist of a demon slayer into their faces

[azure oriole]

in doom 2016 i didnt know you could just shoot them in the back to kill them faster so when i got to the room in lazarus labs that has a lot of them i struggled really bad

[azure oriole]

remote detonation

[austere bronze]

Lock-on burst but good:

[tidal nymph]

bro its fun you can do some sick tricks bping them

[austere bronze]

Like what?

I don't use bp a lot at all tbh

[tidal nymph]

Nah see you're missing out

Well you can boost of them with punching

and honestly it's just fun to ballista boost and punch them at the right time

[austere bronze]

Oh shit I never knew that

Sounds like a dope mechanic though

[azure oriole]

That would be 2016's lob

[austere bronze]

DE's remote det is better than DE's LOB

Trust

Just trust me and start using remote det!

[tidal nymph]

bro is trolling

remote det might be the most useless mod in modded content

[azure oriole]

false

[strong halo]

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.

[worldly verge]

hey guys- need a little help. im looking through the ps5 store for the deluxe edition of doom eternal bc im trying to get the demonic slayer skin. i have the year one pass already, but i dont see anything about a deluxe edition. any solutions, or is it just not on ps5?

[azure oriole]

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP1003-CUSA13338_00-DOOMETERNALDELUX/

[worldly verge]

oh thx dude

[dire tapir]

how often do they change the cosmetic rewards? monthly?

[tame topaz]

Excuse me what.

I mean yeah maybe with the RMB release exploit that lets you fire 3 normal sized rockets instead of the pitiful homing barrage, but that's still 3 rockets dealing 500DMG~ each vs a single rocket with RD mastery dealing almost double that + DoT.

It's wild that RD mastery in 2016 actually buffs base rocket DMG to be almost on par to DE's. You're finally able to one-shot soldier mobs, 4 hours into the game.

[azure oriole]

Its so sad id had to nerf lob in Eternal

[cloud wasp]

Can someone give some tips about how to get better at doom eternal? I was playing the ancient gods on "Hurt me plenty" and died so much it gave me a super armor option so some help would be great

[lusty lark]

spend more time playing and watch some pro players footages to learn

also use the super armor you mentioned if necessary i remember it was named sentinel smth

[cloud wasp]

Sentinel armor

[lusty lark]

yes

i almost forgot it exists

[cloud wasp]

lol

[lusty lark]

even when i used to be a noob i never used it no matter how many times they suggest it to me because i felt it will be humiliating to use it

[cloud wasp]

Same here I was doing the final boss fight of ancient gods part 1 and didn't want to use it but I knew i would most likely want to punch something so I used it

[lusty lark]

omg you accepted the fact that you are bad at the game haha

[cloud wasp]

Absolutely terrible

Also probably the fact I haven't touched the game in 2 years

[lusty lark]

so that's the case

i advice you to replay the campaign to get used to the game once again

especially when the DLC is way harder than the campaign not to mention that the first DLC is harder than the second one imo

[cloud wasp]

Really?

[lusty lark]

i played DE back in 2020 but quit it for 2 years i returned to play it just for the DLC

when i entered the first DLC i got my ahh kicked so hard

[cloud wasp]

That's exactly what I'm doing

[lusty lark]

so i replayed the campaign

[strange gale]

does he know?

[cloud wasp]

You became better after that?

[lusty lark]

absolutely

[cloud wasp]

Alr I'll replay the campaign

Thanks for your help!

[icy yoke]

Just played DooM Eternal for the first time in a long while

I played horde mode and I actually best all 3 rounds

Although something I have to say
WHAT THE FUCK??

THREE BUFFED MARAUDERS, AND THEN THREE ARCHIES!?
IS ID FILLED WITH SADISTIC MFS 😭

I mean I still won but still I'm drenched in sweat

-# still better than Halo Reach on Legendary

[polar osprey]

where is the horde mode map in?

maybe you were supposed to use traps or something

[austere bronze]

There were no traps to use, but there were also not 3 marauders

It's 2 of them

[polar osprey]

archviles arent really too hard to deal with if you know to quickswitch

they arent easy

but they also arent too bad

[minor abyss]

Just Beaten the Doom Hunters Boss Fight

Still doing my ultra nightmare run

Super gore nest time

[austere bronze]

Good luck!

[austere bronze]

Nah, not the most useless, mobile turret exist...
It's the most fun outside of the meathook though

[minor abyss]

Nah, it's def useless the remote detonation, Mobile turret at least Makes you shoot faster, Making you be able to kill the heavy demons faster

[austere bronze]

Regular quick switching deals more damage than mobile turret while not limiting your movement or consuming a ton of ammo

You could counteract the last 2 issues by using it in short bursts, but then you may as well just do a ballista shot or anything for higher damage

[minor abyss]

Tbh, I'm really using my ammo for that if I feel like it, I'm always using the ballista and SSG anyway

[austere bronze]

You should try experimenting with other combos

Especially stuff with precison bolt

[minor abyss]

The only other combo I do is precision bolt and maybe rocket launcher

But I'm trying to take less risks with ultra nightmare at the moment

As I'm pretty much the 5th level in

[austere bronze]

Precison bolt can activate FSE (fast swap effect) in the rocket launcher and for stickies, meaning if you do pb->rocket/sticky->repeat, that's a very fast combo

Pb+ssg is the highest DPS combo in the game, if you're in close range

And pb+ballista is good for aerisl targets, long range, and you may just want to throw it in here and there for ammo management reasons

[minor abyss]

👍

I wish I was on MNK

Cuz you can assign weapons I think

To the numbers

[austere bronze]

Anything close to WASD or on the mouse, yes

[austere bronze]

You can do that too on controller

[minor abyss]

Really? I didn't know that

[austere bronze]

Yeah

I'd suggest you experiment with it a bit after your UN run ofc

[minor abyss]

👍

Also do you get anything for beating UN?

[austere bronze]

A gold slayer skin

[minor abyss]

Nice

Any achievements?

[austere bronze]

No achievement, but I think you get a milestone

[minor abyss]

Oof but still good

Also, Just Beaten Super Gore Nest

Arc Complex Is Next

I'm scared for the later levels

Especially when the archvile comes 😭

God help my soul

[azure oriole]

Memorize when they spawn and use the crucible

[minor abyss]

True

[minor abyss]

I just Finished ARC Complex

I'm gonna save it for now and get some sleep, it's almost 1am. I'm going to grind it out tomorrow, and hopefully beat it

[storm eagle]

yeah I was like wait...huh

[gray rivet]

Sick! You got it man

[zinc pulsar]

I'm trying my first nightmare run in storymode. How do I get pass the arena right after you get the rocket launcher

[gray rivet]

Keep your distance from the mancs, watch out for the caco.

Don't forget to use your grenade, and ice nade

Shoot their cannons off

[zinc pulsar]

I know I use the crono (time slow while aiming) for weak point hits

I just about overwhelmed by the amount of gargoyles (flying demon spit acid)

[fringe torrent]

Gargoyles are overlooked but me personally I think they're great. Might be a nod to Heretic? Another fodder enemy that isn't a Zombie reskin is neat though!

[gray rivet]

A well placed grenade should take out a few of them

[versed radish]

I solved the problem doom not launching in epic games launcher must run as admin and all other apps must be on high perfomance! After 5 days of trying to log in to the game woohoo

[zinc pulsar]

I'm trying to not killed them all at once to keep them available for glory kills so I can get health

[austere bronze]

they are infinitely respawning

light them on fire and kill 'em

[zinc pulsar]

Oh ok

I think I chose wrong as I have micro rockets for the rifle, and microwave beam for plasma rifle. My life is so much harder than it needs to be 😐

[gray rivet]

Yea Heat blast is highly needed until you get the ballista in my opinion. Even after

Microwave beam is fun to mess around with sometimes

[austere bronze]

heat blast is needed for armored barons, that's all I use it for

[zinc pulsar]

Mirco stuns the demon in place while you cook them, I use this for big demons at the start of combat

[austere bronze]

lost souls are annoying man

[fringe torrent]

So true, all 5 of them you encounter throughout the game

[polar osprey]

easy to deal with thankfully

just shoot them

[austere bronze]

yeah nah, I can't do that when the pain elementals start spawning them

[jolly kernel]

I hardly can remember Lost Souls appearing on their own lol

aside from that one secret encounter in Exultia and one of the rooms in Cultist Base

Doom II 🤝 Doom Eternal
a sequel to the previous Doom game where Lost Souls are now often spawned by Pain Elementals instead of appearing on their own

[austere bronze]

Yeah you should get air control as your next rune

[jolly kernel]

so when Mancubi sometimes infight with other enemies, you can see them using their hands to damage them

[gray rivet]

Lost sould spawn in 3 locations in cultist base I believe

[jolly kernel]

can that ever happen to the player instead of the Mancubi slamming the ground to push them back

[gray rivet]

With one spawn being triggered by picking up ammo right before the second secret encounter

[austere bronze]

Lost souls are just annoying little shits lol

[fringe torrent]

Boy you'd love the older games then

Literally any game other than Eternal actually

[austere bronze]

Nah they can't be worse than dealing 200 damage

[fringe torrent]

Dealing less damage can be equally as annoying if they're more common

They are also a lot harder to kill in the classic games and 3

[violet zealot]

Also, face rockets actually do damage unlike in Eternal

[austere bronze]

Face rocket deals damage in Eternal

[violet zealot]

You can live a face rocket in Eternal, even with Mega Armor and 200% health you can go as low as 20% HP in some cases in the original games

[austere bronze]

Why rocket yourself in the face though

[violet zealot]

Lost souls get in the way

And unlike in Eternal, are fucking stupidly fast

It’s very easy to face rocket in a horde if a lost soul comes outta nowhere

[fringe torrent]

M1 are you familiar with the classic games combat

[jolly kernel]

I just wonder why the Doom 3 Lost Soul is this abomination

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465235452148842518/1326598862407991377/Lost_Soul.png?ex=678002f7&is=677eb177&hm=c5e5ad4488852d16e096fe1e0695bbe32cd8273a99fc76085e43d02bad116b0d&

[fringe torrent]

Well they are freshly demonified, wouldn't make much sense for their flesh and skin to rot away already

RoE makes them skulls

[austere bronze]

i am a classic doom expert

[fringe torrent]

What is the alternative cheat code (not idclip) required to noclip into which map of which game to enter which demon boss to find who?

[jolly kernel]

I have a special fondness towards Doom 3 lol

I played through like every version of it

[austere bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1326599516559900682/image.png?ex=67800393&is=677eb213&hm=ba6d10f680368c1b98293751ee36986ba44c1358f1f3d2017aa4ccad2c722fba&

[jolly kernel]

PC, og xbox, BFG Edition

[fringe torrent]

2019 and VR to go

[jolly kernel]

2019 is just BFG Edition without Classic Doom and multiplayer lol

[fringe torrent]

It has a fancier flashlight and another excuse to replay is not a bad thing

[jolly kernel]

I'm actually playing through the og xbox version of the game

I beat it on xbox 360 before, but now I'm playing it on an actual og xbox

[fringe torrent]

Neat, have fun

[polar osprey]

so i guess i got a bullshit bug where i couldnt switch out of my shotgun when doing the master campaign, so i just godmoded and infinite ammo'd that section, aint dealing with that

what the fuck

fell through the floor now im on 5 hp 🙏

[fringe torrent]

Revenge for cheating

[austere bronze]

what part are you on now?

[polar osprey]

well it fucked me over in the part where theres this big open area with a little place in the middle

when u press the elevator and you fall down sveral floors

[austere bronze]

what mission

[polar osprey]

because the elevator broke

arc complex

[austere bronze]

ah

[polar osprey]

it did also have spirited/empowered marauders with the glory kill pickup thing

so i guess i did that incorrectly and it fucked me up

had one marauder that was practically immortal no matter how many shells i put into him (was locked into shotgun), but straight after that was a spirited archvile

[austere bronze]

how.. fun

possessed arcvhiles are the worst

[fringe torrent]

C'mon M1 you're so knowledged on this topic I know you've studied for it

[austere bronze]

sir no sir

ur the nerd

[polar osprey]

and right before that was several possessed marauders (WITH 4 GLORYKILL PICKUPS SO ITS ACTUALLY FUCKING POSSIBLE)

but i was running around like a headless chicken instead of glorykilling the marauders

[fringe torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/finish-it-green-goblin-spiderman-gif-12255609

[austere bronze]

finish what

do you want me to kill you

[fringe torrent]

No I want you to answer

[austere bronze]

i dont have the answer

[fringe torrent]

Fake fan.

[austere bronze]

so true

im not really a fan of the doom series even lol, just eternal

[fringe torrent]

First time I've heard that

[gray rivet]

I like doom

[jolly kernel]

tbh that seems to be common
most Doom fans seem to be those that played only 2016 and Eternal, while not being all that familiar with the Classics and 3

[austere bronze]

I don't even like 2016

[fringe torrent]

Yeah I know, I was referring to hearing it from M1 specifically... which I hear like weekly so

[gray rivet]

Ok that's the first time I heard that

[jolly kernel]

I used to not like Classic Doom that much, but since recent years I enjoy it a lot

[austere bronze]

you expected me to know some random classic doom fact😭

[fringe torrent]

I did not, I just wanted to do a little trolling

The answer is idspispopd map 30 DOOM II Icon of Sin John Romero

[austere bronze]

i read it and didn't remember the beginning when i got to the end

[storm eagle]

🤓

[fringe torrent]

Yes I am a nerd and I am proud!!! 😤

[storm eagle]

same🙂

[azure oriole]

classic doom doesnt do much for me anymore

i used to love playing it but ive played through the ultimate doom 20 times and i got to doom 2 city levels before being too puzzled to get through them

think it was map 16 or something

[young mango]

Kind of an odd topic but do you guys ever think about how pointless punch and reave is as a rune

[azure oriole]

what does that do

[young mango]

Provides health from blood punch shockwave kills, as opposed to just direct hits

[azure oriole]

yeah it is pretty useless then

plenty of other ways to get health without taking up a valuable rune spot

you only get 3 but since air control is a given you really only get 2

[young mango]

It feels like something that should’ve just been a normal blood punch upgrade, and maybe it could’ve been, but a good opening for it wasn’t found

[fringe torrent]

Time to dig into the other campaigns?

[azure oriole]

i tried final doom and didnt like it much

[violet zealot]

There is community content, by the way

[fringe torrent]

Well, No Rest for the Living is AMAZING

[violet zealot]

On all modern platforms minus Switch

Which even that still has approved content

[azure oriole]

i played some of that and it was good but i didnt finish

[violet zealot]

My personal favorite mapset being Overboard tbh

[fringe torrent]

Finish it, the X360 pride in me makes me recommend it to you

[violet zealot]

Anyways, I’ll leave this channel before I get too heavy on the Classic Doom talk

[azure oriole]

i think its just im tired of the classic doom gameplay

not very surprised since ive been playing megatons of eternal

[austere bronze]

Equipment fiend is definitely the second choice

[young mango]

I mean 600 splash damage isn’t a crazy amount, that pretty much means this rune exclusively exists for getting fodder caught in the crossfire, it’s almost a complete waste of a rune slot

[azure oriole]

i have seek & destroy and longer glory kill state

[violet zealot]

We all got our preferences. I personally think Classic Doom’s gameplay is perfect. But well, it is an acquired taste.

[azure oriole]

i could probably get rid of seek& destroy since i usually dash up to enemies anyway

[young mango]

Seek and destroy is lowkey useless 😭😭

[fringe torrent]

I always use seek and destroy 💔 Well except for UN

[austere bronze]

Nah you just gotta lure 4 demons into 1 spot and stagger them all at the same time and then get another demon right in front of them which you can blood punch

[azure oriole]

i used to play with faster glory kills but one day i decided nah and changed it but i still had faster glory kills without the rune

[austere bronze]

I use air control, dazed and confused (same as you) and equipment fiend

[azure oriole]

isnt that the one where enemies drop health if killed by equipment

[young mango]

Even though you said this sarcastically, a lot of heavier enemies have a stagger health of 500, you’d have to hope and pray the damage fall off isn’t too huge

[austere bronze]

No, enemies killed by equipment reduce charge time for said equipment

[young mango]

( this also assumes that they have the full 500 which is unrealistic so idk )

[azure oriole]

oh thats sweet

byebye seek & destroy

[austere bronze]

Yea, it's very good

Based rune setup!

[azure oriole]

heres the real question what support rune do you use

[austere bronze]

The one that falters demons upon weak point destruction

[fringe torrent]

I remember how splash damage in Classic DOOM has a bug that lets you take out any enemy demon with it, even the strongest ones, if you do it in a precise way

[austere bronze]

It's just sexy to use with remote det and frag grenades

Remote det->weak point destruction->frag->weak point destruction

Then you can falter again by fully charging a dblade or with heat blast

[azure oriole]

does remote detanation do more damage

[austere bronze]

No, it deals less damage than a normal rocket

Max it can deal is 2/3 of a normal rocket, per enemy, so you can get in more damage if you hit many enemies, but the damage decrease is quite sharp

It's used for crowd control

You can detonate one at the demon(s) you're currently dealing with, if you miss a rocket, before going in for a blood punch or something or you can throw one at another group of demons

[azure oriole]

gonna stick with lob then

[austere bronze]

Why only use 1 mod?

Switch between them

[azure oriole]

i would say i dont have a use for remote detonation that i'd actually use consistently but ive never used remote detonation to find out if that id true

[austere bronze]

I'd say remote det has a pretty high skill floor (and ceiling) so it may take some getting used to

[azure oriole]

only pros like Under The Mayo are able to use it correctly

[austere bronze]

He needs to learn automized remote detonation...

[icy quest]

hello?

[hot sphinx]

E

im deleting this game

[austere bronze]

I mean, you can lower to ultra violence😭

[hot sphinx]

no

am not a baby

[austere bronze]

That doesn't have anything to do with it

I started at I'm Too Young To Die

[hot sphinx]

i alr completed both dlcs in ultra violence

same but i want to do it in nightmare now

[austere bronze]

Ah

[hot sphinx]

but with this fucking keyboard it makes the game almost unplayable