doom-eternal

[austere bronze]

that gets boring quick

and its not that challenging

[storm eagle]

Bunny's new level is about to come out so you'll have that

Wicked is doing one too that is not like the last one he did

[austere bronze]

i am currently playing it lol

[austere bronze]

that's cool

[austere bronze]

it went well until i managed to corner myself in an otherwise really open map lol

[storm eagle]

lol of course you are

[storm eagle]

noo

[austere bronze]

i was going to chainsaw a shield guy to get out but that bastard jumped an insane height to get away

3 doomguys in height he jumped to escape my chainsawing

oh, it wouldn't have mattered anyways, i was out of fuel

[orchid spear]

you new to the game?

[austere bronze]

i am not new to the game

[orchid spear]

ok

[austere bronze]

why'd you ask?

[orchid spear]

just wondering

[violet zealot]

He’s far from new to it lol

[empty cradle]

any tips for playing TAG 1 and TAG 2??

on UN and in general

[uneven vine]

chat what guns should i map to my two dpad slots

[austere bronze]

All the tips are really general like use the meathook a lot, move around, use your entire arsenal etc etc

The only way to give any definitive tips is with a gameplay clip

[azure oriole]

Do the Can't Perfect Perfection milestone

[austere bronze]

No thanks

[vagrant talon]

bru

[azure oriole]

Why

You wanted something new

[vagrant talon]

what do you have to do in the cant perfect perfection milestone

[austere bronze]

The campaign isn't new for me

[azure oriole]

Fair

[austere bronze]

You can only get 1 preator suit upgrade and 1 sentinel upgrade

[azure oriole]

Take a break from the game then come back? Idk

[austere bronze]

I have stuff to play lol

[vagrant talon]

have any of you tried doom 2016, is it good?

[azure oriole]

It's my favorite I'd say

[austere bronze]

2016 is a good game, but I don't like it a lot

[azure oriole]

If you're planning on getting eternal get 2016 first

[vagrant talon]

i already got eternal should i try 2016

[azure oriole]

Why'd you play Eternal before 2016

Just a question

[vagrant talon]

i just wanted to try the newest version first

[azure oriole]

Play 2016 though

[vagrant talon]

alright is it on switch?

[azure oriole]

Yes

All the dooms are

[uneven vine]

🔥🔥🔥

ther was only 5 😭

Lmao

[sage trail]

I used to play eternal and I had the zombie slayer but I forgot my account, how do I get it again?

[azure oriole]

#563035763738935296 should help

[sage trail]

Oh okay

[azure oriole]

hope you get it back

i love the praetor suit for eternal (and the alternate color variants)

[gray dove]

Sorry, are these all in the official doom eternal mod launcher?

[austere bronze]

i think every one of them is except reclaimden

[gray dove]

the one i was looking for then

that's funny. i'll check it on the internet first then

i just turned on the game with the levitation mod on. is it normal that it started with a level 1 account and no online-

i wouldn't want to lose my savefiles

[austere bronze]

yes

[gray dove]

OOF thanks

also i got the game in italian, what's the POI setting in UI setting?

[azure oriole]

POI...?

[austere bronze]

no idea, i think you just gotta learn italian

[gray dove]

"Please make sure to have POI in UI setting is on." is what the mod says

[gray dove]

i just mean that i can't find "POI" in my game since the game is in italian

[azure oriole]

I forgot I was ngl

[gray dove]

what could POI mean lol

[twilit plover]

Who here wants to fight me in doom

[austere bronze]

not me

[austere bronze]

no idea tbh

[twilit plover]

Dang

[austere bronze]

i dont remember getting something telling me to make sure it's on

[gray dove]

point of interest? maybe to help with the mission's flow

[gray dove]

not right now sorry c:

[twilit plover]

Does anyone else wanna play?

[strange gale]

point of interest/person of interest

[onyx kiln]

cbsm is in the mod launcher?

[young mango]

yes

[vagrant talon]

i knew there was battlemode but how do you invite certain people to ur party

in battlemode

[icy folio]

wait whats battlemode

[coral ivy]

Doom Eternal PvP mode

[icy folio]

hrmm

how do you play it

[coral ivy]

Don't know, haven't played it at all

[icy folio]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-skeleton-meme-man-skeletron-fortnite-gif-8574616040851063459

[young mango]

highly misleading, while dash physics will change a bit with framerate, mostly with collision, we are talking like 1-2 meter differences here, which in doom eternals case, is like, 1/4th of a second worths of just holding forward, it is not a noticeable difference, and if I may inquire, what made you come to this conclusion in the first place

also those differences I noted were drawing a contrast between sub-30FPS and 250FPS, the former is capable of recharging dashes mid air and sometimes dash cancelling off of floors ( albeit sloppily ), so I might even be skewing this in the favor of a way out of context message

[acoustic lark]

So I'm slower when i play at locked 400 FPS?
4090 is a fucking scam afterall, im going back to my 3060 -.-

[storm eagle]

Am I absolutely tripping or does your username look different now? Have I been calling you the wrong name this whole time? I'm sorry if so 😭

[austere bronze]

You are not tripping

[storm eagle]

It's backwards now, amirite?

[austere bronze]

Yup

[storm eagle]

Ok lol good

[orchid spear]

does anybody know if hord mode is good ive beat doom eternall so many times but never tried it

[young mango]

it’s an okay gamemode

[orchid spear]

ill try it tom then

[idle cove]

doom the fart ages

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-yikes-oh-dear-no-thats-bad-gif-18512358

[quiet drift]

How do you activate cheats I forgot

[azure oriole]

Play the game from mod support

[quiet drift]

What

[idle cove]

I hope he does this to me

[azure oriole]

me 2

[royal arch]

bfg division got done dirty in doom eternal

y’know

i think battlemode would have been way better if it was just 3 demons fighting each other

or 2 slayers fighting

[strange gale]

atp why not just play any quake clone

[onyx kiln]

theres a mod for that

[lament bluff]

Didn’t it get replaced by BFG 10k?

Well, “replaced”

[tardy pier]

Am I the only person on planet earth who likes the mech design of davoth? Sure, him being not in a mech will be cooler (a humanoid 1v1), but still, it has a decent design

I’ve been seeing a lot of forums on different sites dissing davoth

[glossy warren]

The mech design is hard as fuck

[serene stone]

Wait Halo is a Quake clone confirmed?

[serene stone]

Horde mode was disappointing

It's kinda fun at first, but loses its luster and novelty fast.

[round drum]

Does anyone know how to get that one doom skin that’s like on fire

Idk what it’s called😭

[orchid spear]

i have it let me see what it is called for you real quick

i dont remember how i got it but im sure the name will help you

[round drum]

Yeah that would be awesome

[orchid spear]

i have to start all my shit up hold on

oh shut man

its part of the deluxe edition of the game

[uneven vine]

Demonic slayer?

[round drum]

Might be

I’m not sure

[orchid spear]

thats what i thout he was talking about its a part if the deluxe edition of the game

[round drum]

Like the visor is orange

And he still has green armor

And he’s on fire

[uneven vine]

yeah i think thats demonic slayer

[orchid spear]

it is

i think you can get ember its like that

not as good

[round drum]

What if you have the deluxe edition

How would one still get the skin or am I just blind and it comes with it?

[uneven vine]

it comes with it

[round drum]

Ight, thank you guys🙏

[violet zealot]

I still need to do ARC ML seeing that I forgot to do it yesterday lol

[wraith palm]

It's the worst thing in the game

[uneven vine]

not really

[wraith palm]

I will firmly stand on my view that it's the worst

The gameplay is just bad. The objective feels unnatural according to the gameplay of eternal.

[azure oriole]

I mean, they did say to play it after doing Eternal, TAG 1, and TAG 2

[strange gale]

i disagree with the premise here, i like having an objective besides just survival

in the base game, there's no style meter or timer or high scores or anything that could be, at a glance, used to judge someone's level of play

[wraith palm]

I like objectives too. It's just that the ones in horde suck so bad. The act of optimizing your score with the coins, blitz, and slowing down your combat flow to gather demons together is something I find to be super boring and repetitive

[strange gale]

ultra nightmare gets the closest to fulfilling this (horde's gameplay sucks, i agree)

but there's wild variance even within the UN "tier" of play

imagine a global leaderboard that lists replays of UN runs and information about them, such as completion time and what mods/weapons were used

you could glance at the properties next to a given replay and, if the chaingun shield shows up, immediately tell whether it's by a scrub or not

[serene stone]

I think SW3 has a much better implemented version of Horde. Also you could extend it to indefinitely if you want in SW3

But Eternal's implemention of Horde kinda sucks unfortunately

[serene stone]

I'd say it's more the encounters and design that makes it bad, and how you can't extend it by choice.

I like the scoring stuff.

Glad scores and score multipliers carried over from DOOT 2016's Arcade mode.

[wraith palm]

The best way to get an eternal horde experience is through mods

[serene stone]

Oh yeah. Indubitably.

[wraith palm]

And in that regard that's the one thing I appreciate about eternal horde. Is the assets for modding.

[lusty totem]

Against all the evil, that hell, conjur all the wickedness mankind can produce we will send onto them only you…….rip and tear until it is done

[patent nacelle]

hey what’s up, anybody can help me to platinium doom eternal, i need two multiplayers trophee and it’s done. Thanks

[quiet valley]

hi

how do ii punch swap?

[woven peak]

I like it

Its a fun arcade like mode

[austere bronze]

Shoot, punch, press your weapon bind
Keep in mind that the rhythm varies between guns, and to punch swap fast with stickies or rockets you need you start with a precision bolt or something that activates FSE

[spring panther]

bfg division got replaced by bfg division 2020

[spring panther]

horde mode is a game journalist's absolute nightmare

its also a nightmare for 95% of console players

[idle cove]

Campaign's first room is a journalist's nightmare*

[young mango]

if I had a Time Machine, one of the first things I’d do is travel 5-10 years into the future and see if people are still making this joke

[young mango]

like it’s so blown out of proportion and it isn’t even funny, like why would you guys ever be surprised that the primary one people prod fun at, being IGN, basically just reviewed the stuff as fast as possible for a quick buck, and also had to do the campaign prior to its public release, meaning everything they figured out was something they figured out on their own, and you guys keep mentioning like, game journalists, like, plural, who else are we poking at? Some 2k subscriber nobody who made a review 4 years ago who was probably just ragebaiting? You guys really need to choose your battles

Like I get the majority of people who make these jokes are just doing so in an attempt to establish a connection with other people in the community, but Jesus, can the joke die already?

It’s like, it’s an issue that basically doesn’t even exist, people are just way too in their heads about it

[azure oriole]

Especially cause you were there too, at some point

You were at their skill level, playing the game blind

[woven peak]

No that's cupheads tutorial

[young mango]

it’s a joke that’s been told so much it almost is disconnected from its original roots, people who are even worse than game journalists make the joke frequently, like it’s been telephoned for lack of better words, people don’t even know who they’re going against anymore, they just know that game journalists exist, and know that they’ve been told they aren’t very good at doom.

[azure oriole]

The joke is just not funny

[young mango]

it’s mob mentality almost, like people can’t form their own opinion, mine personally being ambivalence towards those “game journalists”, as in, they are not worth my time and effort to continue reiterating ad naseum that they suck.

people are still ripping on videos made like 4 years ago mostly made by people with zero say-so in anything, people just need to let it go already

[fallen token]

No

[young mango]

I can’t force people to change their minds, but getting my point across is a good start

[tame topaz]

I'm wondering if anyone else caught onto the name King Ormero.

Does that imply the existence of King Karmak? Prince Holl? Councilor Pdresson?

Baron Mcghi?

[azure oriole]

Yes

[tame topaz]

Architect Punchath?

[azure oriole]

Lord Zazer?

Err that's not an employee

yeah

I'm kinda sick of the joke now tbh

[woven peak]

Arc complex master level ending the same as the regular level 🛌

What a letdown

[azure oriole]

Civvie ass playthrough

[woven peak]

Maybe i should try learning marauder cheese or something

Would be funny

[young mango]

what would you consider “cheese”?

[woven peak]

Isnt there like lock on cheese for marauder or something

[young mango]

I wouldn’t consider learning weapon tech “cheese”, but yes

[woven peak]

I mean

Its a strategy that purposely exploits the marauders ai to bypass its mechanics

Id definitely call it cheese

[young mango]

I personally think cheese implies that you’re circumventing the normal challenge of something via means easier than the traditional method, this has a bar of execution

[woven peak]

Not like cheese has a set definition anyways

Cheese is in the eye of the beholder

[young mango]

could you elaborate on this phrasing? in its current state, this reads as buzzwords, I of course am not implying that is true, I would just like to have more insight

[woven peak]

If im correct isnt the strat to purposely to aim the lock on rockets away so he aims his shield away from you

[young mango]

okay to be fair, I didn’t have very much context to go off of when you said “lock on” when talking about the marauder ( could be referring to a few different things ), but yes I suppose this specific instance could be considered cheese to a certain extent, but still falls under the whole “has a bar of execution” thing, as well as the fact that it is quite inconsistent

[woven peak]

Ok but thats your definition of cheese

Theres no real set definition of cheese

[young mango]

to be fair, slang words that have a set definition often aren’t slang

[woven peak]

Yeah so cheese is in the eye of the beholder

[young mango]

I would rather not devolve this into semantics, but yes back to where this exchange started, you should consider learning that strat if you so choose

don’t force yourself to learn anything that you don’t want to, just if you find it fun

[woven peak]

Arc complex master level wouldve 100% benefited from a taras nabad style final encounter

Since arc complex final encounter arena kinda blows

Like keep the single marauder encounter, but after that when you enter the exit portal it tricks you and takes you to past arenas

[azure oriole]

[spring panther]

thats what the kaiser campaign mod does 🗣️

last phase is a spectre marauder in fog

[woven peak]

Spectre marauder sounds sorta annoying and sorta fun

[jade frost]

Hola

Soy de wiscomsin

Preparamos queso

[storm eagle]

Hola, solo inglés en este servidor, lo siento.

[austere bronze]

Since when do you speak spanish??

Or did you take a spanish class specifically for that message?

[storm eagle]

I speak it sometimes when I feel like it lol. I know a bit.

Full of surprises, my friend. Like random tidbits of knowledge of Swedish things.

[median sun]

is swedish fish good

[storm eagle]

duh

[austere bronze]

oh yeah, you predicted what the translation of chicken nugget would be

[median sun]

sick

[storm eagle]

lmao yeah I wasn't kidding about the chicken nugget thing either

[austere bronze]

yeah i believed you

you would never lie... except for when you do

which is all the time

[storm eagle]

salmiak liquorice=not as good as Swedish fish

[austere bronze]

see?! you lie all the time

[storm eagle]

salmiaklakrits? is that what you call it

Oh yeah, Doom Eternal is a great game. Not a lie.

[austere bronze]

yes, we either call it salmiak lakrits or salt lakrits

(salt liqourice)

[storm eagle]

🤮

[austere bronze]

salmiak is a common name for the thing you add to make liquorice salty

[storm eagle]

I liked the idea of it. But the one I tried was SO salty. I'd like if it if had been half the amount of salt.

[fringe torrent]

Only Swedish thing I know sounds a bit like "Kar En Tuk"

[austere bronze]

yea, change the placing of the T and K and you get an interesting sentence lol

[austere bronze]

some is more salty than other

most of it is good, the only thing ive tasted thats too salty is svenskjävlar
(swedish devils)

[raven rampart]

i logged into my bethesda account in doom eternal on pc and all my console data isnt there, can anyone help lol. by the way im using xbox gamepass pc and mys console is a ps4

[fringe torrent]

Save files don't transfer

:p

[raven rampart]

noo:c

i accidently put wasd was playing a game lol

ty doe ty so much

[fringe torrent]

No problem, if you have any more questions, ping me

[raven rampart]

time to complete un again

alright

[jade frost]

Hello

I'm from wiscomin

We prepared chesse

[idle cove]

@orchid latch Bro's playing Eternal on his PHONE

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827730369200783383/1289547562608496803/Screenshot_20240928-072042_Discord.jpg?ex=66f93841&is=66f7e6c1&hm=0ac1e3691356458bed36c4724cd83fa0985658076916511e7002083837dbae92&

[orchid latch]

God fears me and me alone

[cold wave]

[orchid latch]

He looks down upon the scorched earth and he rests his eyes on the one man who stood against him and he, for the first time, feels fear :3

[thick whale]

Hey guys, is the Kaiser Campaign Mod available on the official mod launcher?

[storm eagle]

nope

[barren marsh]

bro IS the doom slayer

[strange gale]

yeah it seems pretty inconsistent

my game tends to crash after 30 or so minutes of play

could be due to mod incompatibility or messing too much with cvars, but this never really happens while using the community mod injector

[ancient vine]

Is anyone else having problems on PS5 with the a game refusing to give you the campaign?

[fringe torrent]

Did you buy the Year One Pass?

[ancient vine]

No

I already owned the campaign

[fringe torrent]

No clue then

[onyx veldt]

DOOM

[crystal trout]

Is

[azure oriole]

Check and make sure you aren't missing any add ons

[fallen token]

switching binds has made this game 30 times easier holy moly

[strange gale]

this isn't world of warcraft man

[fast crest]

Playing Eternal on controller (PS5) is hella tough. Cuz I need to keep pausing game to bring up weapon wheels & that ruin pace of game 😦

[orchid latch]

Now that my bird is hurt, yeah I'm gonna murder a mf

[orchid latch]

I mean if you look at the demonic invasion map in eternal Australia is surprisingly safe

The only issue is the other demons here (our politicians)

One of the allegedly ordered someone to firebomb a journalist's house

Nah, this guy is chill, he's called friendlyjordies, best aussie journalist frfr

Not only does he expose blatant corruption, he also is a comedian

I mean like his crew got investigated and arrested by the terrorism police for essentially, being jokingly racist against a politician (John Giovanni Barilaro when I get you)

[fallen token]

i started using under the mayos keybinds, c and z for heavy cannon, q for ssg, side mb4 for rocket launcer, side mb5 for balista, 2 for shotty, 3 for railgun, e is equipment launcer, ctrl for flame belch, f for equipment swap, r for weapon mod swap, up mw for blood punch, down mw for chainsaw. Works super well and didn't take super long to learn

[orchid latch]

He also assaulted a camera man, we don't fw Giovanni Barilaro

News kind

Yeah that's really a american thing, our news channels here are just kinda goofy

Anyways, friendlyjordies is a good dude

Totally I heard nothing

I know nothing ;3

Yes yes we should

Uhhh the marauder is easy and I'm tired of pretending he isnt

I killed him the first time around 😭

Yeah that's definitely apart of it

Just get a dock so you can play on the tv

Girl than its a skill issue

[vagrant talon]

hey i have a question cuz i was thinking of a new combo but im not sure if it would work

does the ballista deal damage to urself like the rocket launcher, because it explodes on impact

alr thanks

[fallen token]

Dude this is the most insane keybind setup ever

This is ridiculous

I was just thinking about that bro, I got stuck on The Holt slayer gate on nightmare, so i rebound all my keys and replayed the game on nightmare. Beat the gate 2nd try, so now after I finish TAG1 and TAG2, as well as master levels, I think i'll go replay UK on Brutal with new binds

On your keyboard?

This is a level of gamer I haven't seen before

[young mango]

wouldn’t that make it tremendously more difficult to simultaneously move and press other buttons?

[fallen token]

that spirit buffed marauder is no joke

[young mango]

I mean with an analog stick I’d think it’s primary advantage would be the ability to limit walking speed, having 8 directions isn’t that limiting when you could just turn your camera

[fallen token]

what even is the difference between spirit and totem buff

seems to make sense yeah

well then totem buff wouldnt be that bad cus you could still 1 cycle them.

[vagrant talon]

cheeseburger

[fallen token]

I just ended up using the mobile turret on him lol

i guess yeah especially if there are like carcasses and prowlers and stuff, then it would be way worse

where does that even happen, im still playing thru the holt and tag2 but i dont remember that

[young mango]

Despite my lack of expertise in console related things, I am fairly sure this is the reason the “claw grip” exists

and now we’re talking about completely different ergonomics here

[fallen token]

yea i remember that one but there weren't low ceilings. that one wasn't too hard

[young mango]

the claw grip exists so you can simultaneously control the analog stick while also pressing buttons on that side of the controller yes? I do not think I left myself up to other interpretations

[strange gale]

not a real 50/50, just backdash

like you would a safejump

he aint kazuya

[fallen token]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-gonna-sugarcoat-it-tekken-dorya-kazuya-mishima-gif-4143862341143342269

[strange gale]

you can always shoot him to force his shield up

[young mango]

I’m saying this hypothetical set up might have a bit more challenging ergonomics than you’re suggesting

[strange gale]

or if the shot lands, pb is a hard falter here anyway

not 100% sure about how the possessed variant would react here since they always tweak out a little, but yeah it should

[young mango]

let us just come to a respectful dismissal of this, because no offense, I do not think we are going anywhere productive with this

[fallen token]

dude i just hooked onto a lost soul as a pain elemental was throwing it and i did a little loopty loop lol that was awesome

[spring panther]

spirit buffed marauders do have their annoyances, such as pb not working on them anymore

(stun window reduction + damage resistance)

[fallen token]

[shy cairn]

wsg

[spring panther]

i start with pb then use ssg ballista ssg

screecher buff is spirit + buff

yes

if you mean resistances then yes

its a 25 to 50% resistance depending on demon iirc

[split dust]

And if you combo that with loww skill and ultra nightmare then they are mostly unkillable

[spring panther]

they cant

[split dust]

Wait... i cant belive i actually forgot what cueballs where

Damn it

[spring panther]

archviles cannot be buffed at all

[split dust]

That makes me happy cuz they are a pain in the ass

[spring panther]

atom bombs

[split dust]

Oh yeah those fuckers

[spring panther]

they do like 3.5k damage max to enemies

[split dust]

Yeah they are mostly in the way

[spring panther]

kaiser campaign secret that spawns in a cueball

[young mango]

I did not think it was that serious, I had iterated the claw grip as a point as to why these ergonomics would be possibly awkward when translated to keyboard, I realized my point wasn’t getting across and just decided that this is probably a waste of your time and decided to stop discussing it. Maybe my point could’ve been not very well thought out, but even if that were the case I’m fairly sure my pride in most cases doesn’t let me admit I’m wrong

[split dust]

To be fair i am slowly forgetting demons in doom so dont mind me just asking what demons there where when i randomly spawn in cuz mostly i an just playing dying light rn

Well i Will dissapear again so cya guys in a few weeks/months

[young mango]

see what I mean? this is not my forté, I had input on something but didn’t necessarily have a fleshed out explanation, entire reason I tried to dismiss this

[azure oriole]

Cause what you're explaining it would work

You want to use the stick and buttons at the same time

So use the claw grip

What

What is the problem you are having

Maybe I can help cause I am a console player

Why

Use the camera

I don't claw the controller

why

Why not

Nobody uses auto aim

It honestly makes aiming harder

Excuse me

When I use auto aim it fucks up my aim

If there is more than one target on my screen auto aim proceeds to fuck me over by aiming at the person that I do not want to hit

it's the game aiming for you
So like... training wheels?

that's... that's with an N64 controller... you realize that right?

I don't play competitive shooters

What is your point

[young mango]

Oh cool so it’s not just me, this guys just being provocative with everybody

[azure oriole]

XD

There is no need for it

Think about this, it's also an option, that can be turned off

Cause MnK has a desktop, which has more space than a controller

Why don't they learn to play without it then

[young mango]

because you’re straw manning, this persons skill level in a game has nothing to do with your point, you just want to be rude

[azure oriole]

But people play with controllers anyway, just cause something isn't intended doesn't mean it's not an option

Besides, I would rather spend $500 on a console than a nice PC setup, which can cost like double the price

[young mango]

what are you even on about at this point

[azure oriole]

The only example of something I can think of where people used auto aim is CoD, with that one trick where you spammed ADS while shooting

Then again auto aim doesn't snap to a target, it looks over towards it

Fine

Also just because I don't play comp FPS doesn't mean I don't know of stuff, I can play shooters and know of stuff like that

Do you play with aim assist then?

Cause with how much you're talking about how it's so good it seems like you use it

[strange gale]

moving with even a basic level of proficiency in de more or less necessitates it

[midnight yacht]

People still complain about aim assist in 2024?

[young mango]

so how experienced are you then? are you a professional? win any tournaments lately?

[azure oriole]

...so why are you complaining about an issue that's not even yours?

[strange gale]

now i don't have much experience on controller but high speed tracking without aim assist seems like a nightmare

ironically enough, a single thumb will never be as precise as an entire hand

[midnight yacht]

If games only used the raw inputs on a controller it would be practically impossible to aim consistently.

[young mango]

accessibility features = cheating
I guess.

do you think this is the type of fellow to say speedrunning is cheating as well

[midnight yacht]

Giving players a simple assist to make the experience actually enjoyable is not a cheat, its called game-play feel, something developers prioritize more then competitive gaming.

[strange gale]

there is a distinction between flat out aimbotting and aim assist though

[azure oriole]

I can't play with aim assist honestly, it just feels weird, doesn't help

[strange gale]

aim assist does the rest for you when you're close enough, whatever enough means in the context of the game, whereas aimbot does everything

[young mango]

and how would you go about that then

if you claim to have better methods than literal game developers

[azure oriole]

Have you made any games?

[midnight yacht]

Cheating is if the crosshair hard locks onto your head and my gun automatically fires instantly killing you, aim assist is slightly nudging the crosshair so you can actually hit shots consistently in regular game-play.

[strange gale]

gyro aim i guess

[azure oriole]

Gyro controls, yes

What was the initial argument even about?

[young mango]

it doesn’t even matter because the topic isn’t something this person genuinely wants to defend, and just wants something to complain about

[azure oriole]

Right, of course

I'm so silly for not realizing

[strange gale]

isn't this a little dishonest though

my opinions are strongly worded sometimes but i don't just say shit for no reason

[azure oriole]

Y'know honestly I'm just gonna go play a shooter rather than argue about a mechanic

[young mango]

yes, but the difference is, you know what you are talking about

[azure oriole]

And he's also talking about a problem that's actually his

[midnight yacht]

I don't know man, if you think giving controllers a tiny assist to make the experience enjoyable is cheating, you just sound silly. 🤷

[young mango]

and I had tried to be fairly civil and fairly patient at first, even tried to throw this guy a bone and back down at one point but he just wants to continue

I cant even comprehend the line of logic here

[midnight yacht]

So are all accessibility features cheats?

[young mango]

yeah having the camera move a singular inch to your target is cheating but having a hitbox triple the size is just fine

are we going anywhere with this or are we repeating ourselves until the sun comes up

[midnight yacht]

What if I have motor function problems and needed an assist because I can't aim precisely?

What if I'm deaf and turn on a setting that visualizes or subtitles the audio so I know where a sound is coming from?

[young mango]

it’s like, that can’t be a win you’re satisfied with having, the inability to do more than just say it over and over ad naseum until the opposing party just lets you have it out of mental fatigue

[midnight yacht]

Most likely repeating because the argument itself is made in bad faith, the guy doesn't even play with controller he just wants to whine how its "not fair", I'll most likely stop replying past this point

So... its a feature... made for accessibility...

Incredible, here's another one, imagine if games had difficulty selection so if you aren't at the same skill level as someone else you could pick between easy, normal, or hard.

[azure oriole]

That's not an example of a game with "aimbot", as you like to call it

[midnight yacht]

The core of a FPS is being first person and feature shooting.

So basically you don't want people to have fun unless they play the specific way you want them to.

Spoiler alert, people are bad at games. Another spoiler, just because they're bad doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to play certain things.

[azure oriole]

your rules of the game

[young mango]

Video games exist to have fun that’s why they’re called games

[midnight yacht]

Adding easier difficulties and settings/features to make the experience more enjoyable to those people is a thing developers do because that's the entire point of a video game, to have fun.

And if you don't like it, just don't use it.

Nobody is forcing you to have aim assist enabled.

Oh wait, I forgot you don't even play controller, you use keyboard and mouse.

So again, you really just sound like the fun police.

Define average.

[cold wave]

Average

[midnight yacht]

Again, you are just the fun police.

If you want to play games by their rules then do that.

But you have no business telling other people how to have fun.

[young mango]

just a slew of contradictions in my eyes, I remember him saying something akin to “even the best controller players with aim assist can’t beat mid tier PC players” which if that were the case, it’s not a highly advantageous “cheat”, and if every controller player has the option to enable it, nobodies being hurt by its existence

[azure oriole]

It doesn't seem like he cares about how fun it is, it seems like he cares about how pros play the game tbh

[midnight yacht]

Some people do that, but why would you care? How does it affect you?

[young mango]

yes oh woe is me somebody decided to cheat in a single player game

[midnight yacht]

Also, a slight nudge to make aiming more consistent is a completely different idea then being unkillable in a game.

[young mango]

the single player game, with built in cheat codes

[midnight yacht]

Even by your own logic, if someone is bad and plays on I'm too young to die, is that not just the rules changing to accommodate them?

There are no single set of rules that dictates a game.

Playing on ultra nightmare is a different set of rules then on I'm too young to die.

[azure oriole]

I also don't remember aim assist being a mandatory rule

So if I'm not using aim assist I'm breaking the rules?

Meaning I'm cheating?

[young mango]

also might I add, accessibility features go beyond just settings and whatnot, something simple as lunging towards a demon when you punch is a feature that exists specifically to make the game easier

[midnight yacht]

By your own logic aim assist is just a different rule because it is your choice to have it on or not.

[young mango]

I don’t think you should be setting goalposts, because you didn’t set a very high one, if we want to play elitist I can bring this way further than you can

[azure oriole]

Are you one of those "Doom Purists?" sounds like it

[midnight yacht]

Again, your just complaining that people aren't playing on your specific terms.

Your the fun police.

[young mango]

you haven’t beaten doom eternal unless you have a world record within it 😛

[woven peak]

Also gyro exists and is as good as m&k

Its a single player game why do you care

[midnight yacht]

My dad plays video games, hes a certified gamer with a collection of over 2 thousand games that he constantly adds to, every modern system, and is always up to date on the news. He is a certified gamer with decades of experience and dedication to the community. Guess what? He always plays on the lowest difficulty every single time. Why? Because he doesn't wanna deal with bullshit, he plays games to enjoy them not to get stuck on some specific area or boss and having to spend a large amount of time doing the same thing over and over. He has to deal with a lot in his life already, and games are an outlet for him to enjoy his free time, not to prove hes better then others because he beat some stupid hard level.

[young mango]

people when video games exist for recreation and people actually have lives outside of the internet:

[young mango]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[tame violet]

people when others are bad at games but still want to have fun and enjoy them:

[midnight yacht]

The idea of you "having to play THIS specific way or your not playing it right" is nothing but pure narcissistic elitism.

[woven peak]

Its not even being bad, not needing perfect aim makes the game more enjoyable for some

[young mango]

I think it’s funny that this guy is not replying to anything I’m saying because I’m making points he wouldn’t have an easy time refuting

[azure oriole]

What if it's an actual thing in the game?

[cold wave]

I like shotguns

[azure oriole]

Shotguns are cool

[woven peak]

Also aim isn't even that big of a part of eternals learning curve

[midnight yacht]

You are a condescending annoying dickhead. I will not continue to talk to someone who's going to disrespect my parent.

[tame violet]

I think if you buy a singleplayer game you can play it however the hell you want

[azure oriole]

based

[woven peak]

• ssg barely requires aim
• both rocket mods and its base fire dont require aim
• all spray weapons barely require aim

[cold wave]

Ok yall needa calm down please its just a chat no need to get mad this is what debates are

[tame violet]

Modding multiplayer is fine by me as long as its not giving you a massive advantage over the other players (cosmetic and qol)

[young mango]

see what I mean? even now I am just being dismissed because you know I’m right

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/multiverso-multiverso-akela-multiverso-scout-gif-8208802467565299466

[woven peak]

The only weapons it really matters on is pb and the ballista and the ballista hitbox is huge

[young mango]

here’s a point I made, your elitism, I can take it a step further, do you or do you not have a world record within doom eternal

answer my question

[midnight yacht]

Someone should make an image of a pixelated classic Doom guy, Doom 3 marine, and Doom 2016 / Eternal slayer pointing at each other.

[tame violet]

not if you're shit at the game lol

[midnight yacht]

If you had a shred of common sense the idea that there's a "right" and "wrong" way to play a video game would never have crossed your mind.

Do you hate yourself?

[spare marsh]

Quit it with the gate keeping

[young mango]

why does this guy care so much what people do in their free time

crazy how being employed will make you stop revolving your entire ego around video games

[tame violet]

1. Hell of an assumption
2. I don't want to be 'good' at the game, I want to beat it and have fun

You can have unlimited ammo actually

[spare marsh]

you sound like one of those guys who goes onto doomworld to complain about saving

Anyways, back down. You're gate keeping. We don't appreciate that here.

[midnight yacht]

You are comparing playing in easy mode vs hard mode as the same as using console and winning the game automatically, do I need to say more?

[young mango]

And in this scenario, to me the right way to play is to hold a world record in the game you’re playing, so do you have a WR in doom eternal?

[woven peak]

Aim in eternal is infinitely less important than stuff like positioning or situational awareness so why does aim assist matter bruh

[tame violet]

To me, the right way to play is to have fun.
What's right is subjective

[midnight yacht]

The developers also added aim assist so you can have fun while playing on controller.

[spare marsh]

also completely ignores the fact that mods exist, meaning people aren't satisfied with the base rules and want it changed.

[cold wave]

I like challenging things they are fun :))

[midnight yacht]

You should answer Tammie's question.

[spare marsh]

Do you struggle going to bed knowing people don't play Doom at higher difficulties?

[tame violet]

Everyone has a right to enjoy the game the way they want without affecting other users
Accesibility features, difficulty settings, custom hardware to accomodate disability, mods etc

[midnight yacht]

I struggle going to bed period.

[cold wave]

Real

[spare marsh]

Can't imagine wasting my energy on trying to convince people to play games the way I want them to

I have games to play instead

[woven peak]

Haven't gotten a good nights sleep in 2 years

[cold wave]

Just realized you are mod idk why thats funny to me but it just kinda is

[azure oriole]

Woah when did Kevan get here

[spare marsh]

some 8 years ago

idc how people play games

I make mods. Fuck the rules

[young mango]

You keep dodging

It’s a yes or no question

[midnight yacht]

So do you have a record or not?

[tame violet]

You seem very boring and I'd hate to play games with you

[young mango]

Like it’s not that hard to answer it, a literal 8 ball could answer my question

when will you stop dodging

[spare marsh]

not even Neo dodges bullets this hard

[midnight yacht]

Someone get this guy in the NFL with this Olympic level dodging.

[spare marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-dodge-throw-matrix-miss-gif-3764049638817774883

[tame violet]

You can't pick and choose what's subjective buddy.

[spare marsh]

I bet the guy hasn't even beaten the game at nightmare

[tame violet]

Can't say games aren't subjective then say no questions have yes or no answers

[midnight yacht]

He's behind the screen secretly trying to speedrun the game so he can get a world record before he has to answer. 😂

[azure oriole]

I think it'd be over by now tbh

[midnight yacht]

So do you have a world record or not?

[young mango]

strawman fallacy definition:

an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

The fact that you keep veering off topic, a yes or no question

[spare marsh]

I bet the guy enjoyed the nerfed DLC

[azure oriole]

Is that an Elden Ring joke

[young mango]

quit the semantics, yes or no

[spare marsh]

It's a Doom Eternal joke on how people complained the first DLC was too hard.

so it got nerfed

[azure oriole]

That makes two DLCs I know of that got nerfed

[young mango]

it is a 2-3 letter response it can’t be that hard

world record or no world record, yes or no

[azure oriole]

I don't think he does

[cold wave]

Thats crazy

[tame violet]

I've never held a world record speedrun in my life, if I ever did it was by accident or by virtue of literally no-one else playing the game.

[midnight yacht]

Thank god for it, I don't think I could beat original Radahn.

[azure oriole]

I would win

[spare marsh]

AG1 was so god damn good before it was nerfed. Exactly what I wanted out of more Doom Eternal

[midnight yacht]

Its funny, Radahn has been nerfed twice now.

The original Radahn got nerfed and now the DLC Radahn.

[azure oriole]

I have the stubbornness to beat a challenge

Cause I hate myself

[midnight yacht]

Do you hold a world record yes or no? Answer with a yes or a no or I will ask again.

[tame violet]

Fromsoft games scare me, i'd get too frustrated or fixated on them for them to be fun.
Could do with an easy mode but that's what modders are for I suppose.

[spare marsh]

THere he's dodging again

[azure oriole]

World Record, yes or no

[tame violet]

I think you overestimate the number of people who care.

[spare marsh]

Do you have a world record?

[tame violet]

Plus I know they're supposed to be hard.

[spare marsh]

Do you have a world record

[young mango]

see this is crazy who even dodges for this long, like you’d think he would at least try lying at this point or something

[midnight yacht]

Elden ring is incredible but it also destroyed hundreds of hours of my time.

[spare marsh]

Someone ask me if I have a world record, I'll show them how easy this is

[midnight yacht]

Do you have a world record?

[spare marsh]

No

[midnight yacht]

Wow... how easy...

So, do you have a world record?

[tame violet]

What the hell are you talking about. The true beauty of games is sharing what you got out of them and marvelling at all the points of view you missed.

Do you have, or did you at one point have, a world record?

[azure oriole]

They're not that bad, think of the entire game like a learning curve

[young mango]

that’s crazy we’ve been at this so long I’m going to have to scroll back up several pages for the second part of this if we ever get an answer

[spare marsh]

They're trying so hard to not answer, because they know they're in a corner

[woven peak]

This is such a waste of time

[tame violet]

Yeah I think I could do it I just also think it would probably stop being fun for me quite quickly.

[azure oriole]

DO YOU HAVE A WORLD RECORD?

[woven peak]

Yall should join nascar the way you guys are going in circles rn

[azure oriole]

That's fair. as long as you enjoy the games you play :3

[young mango]

oh definitely, but the end goal here is reaching the finish line of that

[tame violet]

Okay whatever but do you or did you at any point have a world record?

[azure oriole]

Recursion...

[tame violet]

I do my best!

[woven peak]

Theres no finish line

Yall gotta realize you cant reason with stupid people

[tame violet]

It's sorta fun to watch them keep digging though

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/diavolo-requiem-wha-jojo-jojos-bizzare-adventure-gif-15144068

Hey what's your world record? Or do you not have one?

[young mango]

yeah this is currently above me

[tame violet]

Some games aren't designed to be easy and that's when you either get modders to make it so, get someone else to beat what you can't, or just decide the game isn't for you. If you want to play it you have a right to play it the way you want.

[azure oriole]

Also I've tried Halo LASO, and I didn't ever finish any of them cause I wasn't good enough. If I came back to it then I would have the dedication to beat it

WR?

[spare marsh]

Tammie, show us some of your runs

[woven peak]

Worst jojo part everrrrr

[azure oriole]

why?

[woven peak]

Final fight bro just gets super powerful stand and wins anyways because um lol

[cold wave]

None of them are bad

All peak

[woven peak]

I hate the character designs, i think giorno is an uninteresting protagonist and i think the stands are mega lame

[tame violet]

I like learning about the mechanics speedrunners and people who play on much higher difficulties use even if I'll never learn/need them myself. Love learning new things from the different ways people experienced games I love <3

[azure oriole]

I don't agree with your opinion by any means, but I respect it, it's not for everyone

[woven peak]

Ger is so lame because theres no actual strategy or thought like previous jojo fights, its just le instant win button

[young mango]

going to use this one in specific because ultra nightmare, but honestly we should stop pressing the guy because we have been going in circles so many times it’s basically spam https://youtu.be/nUu0lFyjGv4?si=y2af9O5ATc2KB0D0

[tame violet]

I like playing doom eternal to get all the collectibles and get a picture of Daisy in every level :)

Love to uh... finish the game someday lmaoo

[woven peak]

Wait what

Picture of daisy?

[tame violet]

Daisy's hidden in every level!

[azure oriole]

Why is it not well designed? It's using a mechanic allows you to choose what makes the game more challenging, and turns all them on

[woven peak]

I did not know that

Learn something new every day

[azure oriole]

Someone was gonna make it eventually

[tame violet]

THE BEAUTY OF GAMES

I'm going for the world record in Daisy% (100% any difficulty) XD

[midnight yacht]

Notice how a person with WORLD RECORDS, who plays at the HIGHEST POSSIBLE LEVEL of the game, is the one defending the idea that you can play games however you want?

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah one more thing any world records?

Forgot to ask

[tame violet]

Currently 16.1 in game hours in and maybe halfway done lol. Maybe 2-3 years irl time?

[cold wave]

You can get pictures of daisy in doom eternal?

[tame violet]

You need to take them yourself, she's just hiding in every level.

[cold wave]

Time to collect

[tame violet]

You can't collect her, she's just part of the geometry

[cold wave]

??

[tame violet]

There's a little daisy just hanging out in every level, usually out of bounds where you can see but not reach her. I just like to take pictures of her

You can't interact with her.

[cold wave]

NOOOOOOO THIS IS RACISM I WANT DAISY GODDAMMIT

[plush totem]

There is a skin if you play enough hoard mode that will let you pet daisy as a stance

The classic doom 2 master collection

[austere bronze]

Lol, about this, you quite literally can fly in Eternal and you do have infinite ammo

And there is no proper way to play Eternal anyways

[storm eagle]

lol what the hell happened in here?

[azure oriole]

Some guy called aim assist cheating

[storm eagle]

groan who cares fr

Idk why gamers care about what other ppl do so much. Play how you want to

[azure oriole]

he was being a dick about it

Uhh let me get examples rq

[storm eagle]

I saw. Tell him to touch grass haha

nah I saw it all fren

[azure oriole]

nvm then

Yeah no that guy went off XD

[storm eagle]

haha fr. Weird behavior tbh

People get so snobby and flexy about Eternal, it gives me secondhand embarrassment 😂

[azure oriole]

For real

Hating on me cause I can't have a say cause I don't play comp shooters

[storm eagle]

You can have any say you want as long as you're civil, which you absolutely are.

[azure oriole]

yeah, thnx man

[storm eagle]

Keep doing you💫

[azure oriole]

you too dude

[spring panther]

what the hell happened here

[storm eagle]

brainrot

[covert basalt]

I think the takeaway here is that we should all play DOOM Eternal with a dance pad

[inner moth]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-kid-doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-gif-26144019

[storm eagle]

Hi Sylar🙂

Argent DDR ©️

[covert basalt]

hey how's life ❤️

[storm eagle]

Good, I saw a guy running around in a jester outfit today near the dog park. Wby?

[storm eagle]

@austere bronze What do you think is in the little pouch on the Marauder's left side of his waist?

[austere bronze]

A picture of me

[storm eagle]

loooool oh no

@fringe torrent Argent Energy drink...

Wait-too smol...M1 pic ig. Or Nokia flip phone.

[austere bronze]

Why not both

[storm eagle]

[austere bronze]

What does that face mean💀

It looks worried and proud and happy and angry at the same time

[storm eagle]

Idk it's fiendish and makes me laugh every time I see it

[storm eagle]

hahahah 100%

[austere bronze]

Good, I thought I was tweaking for a second

Anyways

Doom eternal

[storm eagle]

It's my face rn eating this Rice Krispy bar and watching Eternal videos

[austere bronze]

What Eternal videos

Whose Eternal videos

[storm eagle]

Why Eternal videos

[austere bronze]

Loooll

[storm eagle]

Koipit playing Wicked's mod

lol

[cold wave]

[storm eagle]

idk who this is but I want to watch the suffering for a bit

[austere bronze]

Haha, but that was mostly a walkthrough, no?

[cold wave]

Im gonna frow up

[austere bronze]

I think you forgot a t, here you go: t

[storm eagle]

Oh. Yeah, you're correct. lame boo hiss

The music in it has made me unwell

[austere bronze]

It's so fast paced music

But the walkthrough was pretty great
Even though the music would be better in an ultrakill montage or something

I need to play some Eternal today, I didn't play anything yesterday other than what I streamed

[storm eagle]

I wanted to watch a run of it that isn't 'Murican Tryhard Eagle lolol

I need him to be bad once at any Doom game in any level 😮‍💨

[austere bronze]

D3

[storm eagle]

LOL

[quiet valley]

is there a mod to get the graphfics so low for better fps

[azure oriole]

Scraping the barrel

[austere bronze]

What exactly even is this so called fun zone

Or what do you do to get into it

[tame violet]

oh god you're back

You never did answer Tammie's question.

[young mango]

maybe this is a stretch, but his last message being at 1:46AM UTC, and his returning message being at 10:43AM UTC, that’s almost 9 hours, not an absurd amount of time to be asleep, this guy might genuinely have started his day by continuing an argument from yesterday

[fringe torrent]

Even if it might be a stretch it's a pretty funny thought

[tame violet]

i'll admit, that's pretty dedicated

[inner moth]

makes sense

[fringe torrent]

Canon.

[austere bronze]

And inside these systems you can get creative, I almost never get close to enemies and am not that aggressive of a player while not moving that quick most of the time

If that is how things should be played, why is the player given more options to deal with them?

[young mango]

Have you ever experienced fun

[austere bronze]

Lol, yes you are forced to kill the demons, but that's it

The player isn't forced to do anything else

[young mango]

not one word out of this guys mouth has been remotely positive it’s just a slew of negativity and dismissal of others opinions

[austere bronze]

Everything is up to you, and sometimes there may be an easier way to do things, but for the majority of the game you can do it your way

[fringe torrent]

You can boil down every strategy game to "you can be creative but at the end of the day, you have to [goal of the game]"

[austere bronze]

That's not a limit of player creativity

[young mango]

it’s like is he really getting so worked up over what people do in THEIR free time that he neglects the factor of actually enjoying himself? like they’re called video games, games, they’re recreational, there’s more important things to do in life than to continue acting like that

because I’m not policing people minding their own business, we are not going to pull these grade school “I know you are but what am I” tactics

Sure I could walk away from this any time I’d like to, and it’d probably be a better usage of my time, but the fact that I continue to entertain any of this shows that deep down I have some sort of hope for you, that you are better than this

[long orbit]

[young mango]

interesting

hey I’m going to go do something real quick I’ll continue this when I’m back

[frank pawn]

Hello people! Faced with such a problem, there is no connection to the servers, who had it? How was it decided?

[dull summit]

Is there any way to use keyboard and mouse on ps5?

[long orbit]

Yes but it won’t work with doom eternal

[dull summit]

Hopefully dark ages support it🙏🙏🙏

[long orbit]

Would be great

I just wanna quick switch in eternal though

[austere bronze]

you can do it on controller

[long orbit]

Yes but only through 2 weapons

[austere bronze]

nope

you can bind weapons

[long orbit]

You can’t scroll through them all like you can on keyboard

[long orbit]

Ehh it’s not as good though

[austere bronze]

it's almost as fast as on pc, but not as fast, yes

[long orbit]

Would it be possible for keyboard and mouse to become compatible with eternal in the future?

[austere bronze]

you will probably never be able to play with keyboard and mouse on console in eternal

[long orbit]

It would be so cool though. It would save people so much money so that they don’t have to buy a pc

[austere bronze]

i 100% agree

[long orbit]

But your probably right

It’s a little unrealistic

[kindred olive]

sup everyone i need help

i got doom on pc now but i don't know where to play custom maps..also does it need wifi

[kindred olive]

Wait so is it like files that i put in doom folder? how does it work?

im not old to pc yk😭

Oh nice

i got doom cracked

so it can't connect to internet but pc can

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209891410426462302/1238422621000044594/togif.gif?ex=66f91df1&is=66f7cc71&hm=845f0aa371bde1156ed7bd4167e86fd7c4507b07b4d50e230a818ca8a79269a0&

[elfin turret]

im trying to do the one sentinal crystal one suit perk thing but idk what I should choose

any suggestions?

[fringe torrent]

^

[azure oriole]

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[hoary kernel]

Am I "safe" to die in my UN save file if I attempt some of these non-UN Master Level challenges and die?

Like, I go to my Game 1 save file, which is a completed UN file. Then, I go to Master Levels, and there are a bunch of challenges--some UN, but most are not.

[austere bronze]

Yes, you are safe

And if you die on a master level on UN, you're still safe

[hoary kernel]

Thanks

[elfin turret]

I was told quick swap and ammo

that still good?

[austere bronze]

Yes, you'll die a bit more, but you'll have to chainsaw less

[azure oriole]

Mouse1 shoot demons

[azure oriole]

Doom franchise explained in 3 words

[fringe torrent]

CTRL:

[storm eagle]

Rip n' tear

[cold wave]

They fear you

[austere bronze]

R.I.P. n' tears

[vagrant talon]

https://tenor.com/view/doom2-doom-archvile-gif-23324214

[austere bronze]

No ammo upgrades would be terrible

It would be so much chainsawing

Yes, no need to lock the player in a boring animation for an essential part of the game

[fringe torrent]

Would be cool if there was a mod that replaces chainsawing with just automatically dashing you into the enemy and having them explode in ammo. It wouldn't take from the dash meter btw

So basically be like the BP but it takes from the chainsaw meter and gives ammo

[old ginkgo]

The animation when you have no valid target with the chainsaw, but then that it drops ammo that way when u hit an enemy

Just a quick slash

[fringe torrent]

Could work but it'd feel a bit unnatural imo, do something like the crucible animation maybe

RAGE 2 has a sword you can actually use

I have no idea how to use it, clunky controls lol

The strangle thing was fun to play around with though

[fringe torrent]

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[onyx kiln]

chainsaw savagery on nexus

m1 complains abt chainsaw cus hes only good at air camping 😴

[strange gale]

making dashing omnidirectional and tying the vertical direction to your camera angle would be a good fix to this

i thought about lowering the cooldown to compensate but grounded movement is already really good, so nah

you just never see it outside of speedrunning and battlemode/svs

[onyx kiln]

meathook air movement has no problem

we just need more tight arenas

[strange gale]

making a game-wide change (low ceilings everywhere) to nerf one mechanic isn't great game design

[onyx kiln]

not what i said, just have both, meathook is fun

[strange gale]

this is like how the tekken 8 devs approach character balance, they saw devil jin making good use of the game's system mechanics so they nuked him instead of looking at the mechanics themselves

[onyx kiln]

also ID doesnt really need to do anything, anyone worried abt this is prob playing modded content

[austere bronze]

I wouldn't say that lol, it's just that I've been doing it a lot recently
And speeding up the chainsaws doesn't fix the boring animation

[onyx kiln]

real

[strange gale]

limiting meathook to one use per instance of being airborne would make it a little more interesting at high level while not affecting people who can't abuse it anyway, it'd be a good change imo

excluding meathook points obviously

[onyx kiln]

the pb no zoom mod you have, is there a version that works on viewmodels

[austere bronze]

I think meathook being pretty much the only means to gain any kind of verticality is inherently a problem

[strange gale]

every cbt level is the same: stay airborne or you die

they have to be designed this way because of how fucking stupid the hook is

fly around while charging dblade and you win 👍

[austere bronze]

I'd like to see more options for vertical movement and Eternal being balanced

[austere bronze]

Alongside a nerf to the meathook

[strange gale]

forcing a little bit of grounded movement would make these levels so much better but nobody ever does that

custom geo is so valuable for modders man

[austere bronze]

I think many players at the higher levels lack thr ability to play the game grounded well, which is unfortunate

[onyx kiln]

cbt atlantica first arena

done very well

[austere bronze]

Isn't the roof really tall there though

[onyx kiln]

first room its only jump height

with the poss baron

[strange gale]

oh that's sick

could make the baron smaller, it'd look silly but it'd fix the height problem

[austere bronze]

I just checked, it's about 2 tyrants in height

[onyx kiln]

yea after you kill the baron

[austere bronze]

Ah, the baron part has its own ceiling, I see

[onyx kiln]

also the very start of arc complex with unbal randomiser @strange gale

[strange gale]

true

[fringe torrent]

That would make me so uneasy

[strange gale]

but the issue there is a lack of horizontal space so it's fucked in a completely different way

something something dps check

[azure oriole]

Boomers

[onyx kiln]

he also makes his tokens lower 😴

[strange gale]

i guess you could thread the needle through that corridor, but enemy cc would still make it a bitch

triple tokens my beloved

[austere bronze]

The start of arc complex with the unbalanced rando isn't really that fun of an experience

[onyx kiln]

he had a vid that had them lower, then he took it down cus some1 called him out on it

not enough tokens to go around so some enemies just dont attack when they should

[strange gale]

it's hard (if not impossible) to prove that objectively but you could play the level with vanilla tokens and observe the enemies

if their attack frequency doesn't match the video then something's off

[onyx kiln]

him taking the vid down right after kinda proves it

[strange gale]

there's a minor issue with inf tokens actually, archviles never do anything

[onyx kiln]

yea it sucks

[strange gale]

to be fair, keeping enemies off-screen to stop them from attacking is an intended mechanic in dmc

[onyx kiln]

abt the meathook thing its also bc people cant do single dashing while swapping

[strange gale]

yeah dmc 4 has guard flying and you can get theoretically infinite airtime via jc (outside of dmd) but air movement has never been that good

[onyx kiln]

campaign brain

[strange gale]

dmc 1 is silly yeah

[austere bronze]

No way, something in Eternal that requires a decent bit of practice to pull off

[strange gale]

love the shadow instakill though, great berserk reference

[austere bronze]

Not that much, except making archviles even easier

Or at least making them incredibly easy to ignore

You'll maybe notice a difference in modded encounters with loads of enemies, but other than that, not really

The unbalanced randomizer can be quite underwhelming too, sometimes it decides to basically just spawn fodder

And in tight arenas it usually becomes very tough while in open spaces it's very easy, usually

[strange gale]

you'll see more single hits and multihit attacks that are treated as a single token, things like the arachnotron projectile barrage

[onyx kiln]

does inf tokens actually reduce enemy accuracy

[strange gale]

that's not affected by tokens afaik, at least not directly

the enemies' ability to lead shots might not be able to keep up with their increased attack rates but that's controlled by separate variables

[onyx kiln]

thanks

[strange gale]

though attack tracking might be reset every time a new token is used, so that could be a non-issue

these are just my observations

bulldozer though

it'd still instakill anything that doesn’t have discrete phases

the 200 damage on every frame thing was introduced when they patched the stone imp instakill

wouldn't it have been easier to just apply damage scaling against stimps?

[onyx kiln]

tag 2 was super sloppy

[onyx kiln]

the dblade thing with the stimps aswell

gave them the same gore value as all other fodder

[strange gale]

if x is used against y, y takes reduced damage

cmon man

[strange gale]

another game-wide problem caused by an attempt to patch a specific interaction 🌝

[jolly bluff]

Hi all

[azure oriole]

Stimps lol

[jolly bluff]

Are there more people they have not received the gunpletonist milstone?

[restive lantern]

🤨

[jolly bluff]

Its a bug?

[elfin turret]

tbh I havent died alot only cause I spam blood punch heal rune, flame belch, and the flame chain shotgun

[tender magnet]

Can battle mode trophies still be boosted in private matches?

[mighty jasper]

hey yall, in the super gore nest there is the challenge to beat both secret encounter and i did but... its not counting it cuz i died at the same time. but the secret encounter is gone

will i have to replay this entire level?

[vagrant talon]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-wth-tf2-team-fortress-2-shock-gif-5852517115769452555

[raven storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1062133063947145228/1275341534518186016/1724135479019.gif

[lavish sandal]

[vagrant talon]

hey how do i send photos the plus sign by the chat isnt even showing up

[raven storm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-6287489991893889017

[vagrant talon]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

https://tenor.com/view/doom-flattend-doom-doomguy-doometernal-doom-eternal-gif-312493936426332057

[uneven vine]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-archvile-gif-19878395

[cold wave]

GYAAAATTT

[sudden pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-doom-doom-eternal-poopy-poop-gif-6194649044683122767

[elfin turret]

I hate this dude so much delete his file!

[minor carbon]

Hello

just got done with the first boss on Doom Eternal

[austere bronze]

What did you think?

[minor carbon]

it was fucking insane

this is also my first time playing Doom btw

[austere bronze]

Yeah Eternal can be quite intense

But that's good IMO

[minor carbon]

so far man i love the Sticky bombs and the Super shotgun

those helped me a lot

[austere bronze]

The super shotgun is great, especially its mod the meathook

[minor carbon]

it also takes out Heavies fairly fast

[austere bronze]

Yup

It's one of the best sources of DPS without quick switching

Behind lock-on burst and destroyer blade

And mobile turret

[minor carbon]

wait Destroyer blade?

i dont think i have that yet

[austere bronze]

Yeah, it's a mod for the ballista

[minor carbon]

shit i dont think i have the Ballista yet either

[azure oriole]

That sucks

So much for so little

[austere bronze]

Compared to quick switching, yes

The bigger problem is how boring it is

[lament bluff]

True. I usually only use mobile turret when messing around with the cheat codes

Otherwise the ammo isn’t worth using unless for the shield.

[wooden lodge]

Can I just comment on the electric guitars in the fortress of doom.

[azure oriole]

Nah

[wooden lodge]

Alright then.

[coral ivy]

I see Jacket

[wooden lodge]

Huh

[coral ivy]

Your PfP, from Hotline Miami

[wooden lodge]

Yessssss

[cloud temple]

@wooden lodge I really like your pfp, I’m a big fan of Hotline Miami

[coral ivy]

Saaaaaame

[wooden lodge]

Agreed it was so fun.

[cloud temple]

I actually have the jacket from the game irl

Like I can actually wear it

[coral ivy]

...shut uUPPPP, NO WAYYY, question...you got the Chicken Head?

[wooden lodge]

Ok that's sick

[cloud temple]

No, not yet

[wooden lodge]

good question

[coral ivy]

Damn, I was hoping we could be twinnin

[wooden lodge]

Oh yeah by the way, thoughts on the marauder?

[austere bronze]

I don't like him

He gets very boring very quick

[wooden lodge]

For sure

Oh also... WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I SUPPOSED TO DO IN THE TARAS NABAD TOXIC SECTION AFTER THE FIRST ARCHVILE FIGHT?!?!?!?

[azure oriole]

Shoot

[wooden lodge]

Shoot?

[austere bronze]

Dash into the green cracks and shoot into the tubes with a green target

[wooden lodge]

Oh god thank you so much

[austere bronze]

I think I was bored of the marauder about the third time I fought him or something

It's an enemy whose design is so weird I will always ponder over how it got added

[azure oriole]

See? He told you to shoot

[wooden lodge]

Yeah but he told me what to shoot

[tacit ledge]

[wooden lodge]

that is true

[uncut helm]

i dont have clips but i usaly die from high damage mosters or ones that have a lot of health

[fringe torrent]

@austere bronze

[austere bronze]

This is quite vague, but going off of the high HP part you might get tunnel vision

Meaning that you keep attacking 1 enemy with little to no regard for what's actually going on

[cold wave]

GET THAT THING AWAY i hate those lil flying heads

[dense heart]

hi

Could someone help me with a problem or bug that I have in a part of the game that does not advance?

[fringe torrent]

We'd need to know what it is first

[dense heart]

It won't let me attach an image so you can see the level part

[fringe torrent]

Send it in #screenshots

[dense heart]

okey

the dog does not move

can you see the picture?

Anything, if you know something, write it down and thank you.
greetings from Argentina

[uneven vine]

maybe reload the checkpoint

[vagrant talon]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-doom-eternal-doom-genshin-sucks-glory-kill-gif-1618966088396377383

[glass trellis]

Fr

[azure oriole]

Hate me but I tried the game

I had fun with it for a day or two

[glass trellis]

It's actually not bad game

But this Is good meme

[azure oriole]

Yes

[fringe torrent]

The community for it is absolute garbage

[glass trellis]

Maybe but game it's not So bad

[austere bronze]

You are garbage... at being garbage
(Had to make it wholesome)

[azure oriole]

true

[fringe torrent]

Thanks M1, I think

[glass trellis]

How much dumb am i when i accidentaly waste two bfg ammo in Taras Nabad after that parts where are that other two ammos?

I waste on fucking Marauder

But it was accident

[azure oriole]

You can't use the BFG on the Marauder, right?

[glass trellis]

I don't know i just shoot

I was not having aby ammo within bfg And i was in pannick So i just shoot

[azure oriole]

Ah

[austere bronze]

Fair

[twilit ridge]

you can, but their shield deletes the projectile

[azure oriole]

Right, kinda what I meant

[twilit ridge]

if you hit them while they're stunned or time it right you can hit them deadon with it and instakill

you can also kill them with the beam from behind

[glass trellis]

Will i need it in Taras Nabad anymore?

[austere bronze]

You can also shoot the BFG directly up and the marauder won't block the tendril ;)

[next dagger]

Hello FRIENDS, just TELL me I have problems connecting to the servers?

[austere bronze]

Maybe, I don't know

[glass trellis]

Ok

I have activated crucible but i don't have completed Taras Nabad

[next dagger]

Can someone tell me? Are the servers all right?

[azure oriole]

Yes

Well idk but I'd assume so