doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

Been awhile since I played Eternal

But I did use it sometimes just because of the cool factor

[austere bronze]

In a game where you have tons of cool mods, weapons and movement options, I struggle to see why walking slower and shooting more bullets is fun

[azure oriole]

Yeah you’ve said that a lot

[austere bronze]

You could: A) fling yourself with meathook, charge up a deatroyer blade and bhop to maintain momentum to then shoot it and cut multiple enemies in half
Or: B) walk slow and hold down fire to see a gun fire quick

[young mango]

and “shreds enemies” is a brutal exaggeration

[azure oriole]

Sometimes the latter can be fun in short stints, really not hard to wrap your head around again. Never claimed it was the best weapon in the game.

[austere bronze]

If I had to choose between traveling ay high speeds and firing a giant laser which cuts enemiea in half or shooting a gun and doing nothing,I am always choosing the former

[austere bronze]

That's why you have a ton of other options

You can do so many different fun things in the game

And mobile turret just isn't a part of the cool kids club

[fringe torrent]

I can say I like mobile turret because pew pew brrrr

But shield better

[azure oriole]

That’s fine, don’t actually disagree in the sense that there are plenty of weapons in Eternal that are mechanically superior and have the aesthetics to match, but nothing fulfills the same exact niche as the chaingun in that department and hence why people still get enjoyment out of it. Just find it strange how so many here are either forcing themselves not to or literally can’t understand why someone would think that way lol

[storm eagle]

hi guys

[azure oriole]

Assuming this is what happens when you play too much Doom Eternal

[young mango]

the point about mobile turret is that it is fundamentally flawed, in the sense that even if it were good, it would just become press right mouse to win

[visual steeple]

you are now a speedrunner

[young mango]

the engagement a person gets out of it is so minute

[austere bronze]

Hi 612th mom, how are you?

[austere bronze]

I wish I knew how to speedrun

[visual steeple]

You are now

[storm eagle]

612th💀

[austere bronze]

Some people just re-marry, I'm not judging you

[azure oriole]

You can list every fundamental flaw with it, I’d probably agree, and nothing I said would disputed.

all I’m trying to say is the rule of cool can alone make it an option for people during combat

BFG is more useful but is also a rule of cool weapon fundamentally

Not a ton of people are going out to complain about it lacking depth regardless

Ideally everything would be perfectly balanced but hey

[austere bronze]

Now most things are completely unbalanced instead😃

[young mango]

BFG lacking depth is its main gimmick though, it’s design is FOCAL around just clearing everything with no engagement, which is why the ammo is so hard to come across, because if it were commonplace, the game would become a boring slog

[azure oriole]

I mean I’d argue it being a ez win button is more detrimental to the overall gameplay than the MT which is just inoffensively okay at its job, since it’s there to let you skip certain encounters you don’t like.

[austere bronze]

I wouldn't say either MT or the BFG is detrimental to the gameplay, because you can just not use it

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[austere bronze]

But, if MT didn't exist, maybe more people would experiment with the game's mechanics and learn cool things

[azure oriole]

What you guys think of the ammo rune with bfg in 2016

[austere bronze]

People play around with the game far too little

[azure oriole]

Though I think resisting the urge not to use the instant win button can be difficult for a lot of people

Like it’s there

Tantalizing you

[austere bronze]

Then I'd say you have a very weak will

[azure oriole]

I always forgor bfg existed in my play throughs lol

Yeah ngl I think I mainly only used it for rooms full of super heavies, maybe a marauder or two, and bosses

[austere bronze]

If you actually want to skip out on the BFG, it isn't hard to stop using it

[azure oriole]

I usually get into the mindset of conserving it’s ammo so I rarely end up using it

[young mango]

the fact of the matter is, the BFG isn’t even that huge of an advantage if you aren’t using it strategically

so it’s not a huge loss

[slow sigil]

yeah that's also a downside for MT, it's design is anathema to eternal's design

[azure oriole]

Look man I don’t think the MT is good enough of a crutch to be holding people back from experimenting lmao

If it wasn’t there they’d probably just be spamming full auto or whatever

[young mango]

it’s not a crutch at all

[slow sigil]

it's hard to switch out to, incentivizing staying on it and using all your ammo on it, which sends the wrong message

i have this gripe with all the "fuller auto" mods

[austere bronze]

I'd say it kinda depends on perspective, it will massively help out in any given arena, but in the entire game as a whole? It won't make much difference

[young mango]

micro missiles has a higher DPS

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[young mango]

thing you can pick up in the first level btw

[slow sigil]

alongside giving new people the wrong message and thus making it harder to get into the proper game flow, this also means that once you are in that gameflow you can barely use this tool alongside the rest

[visual steeple]

i hate m1 he is bad speedruner

(me when i spread slander online)

[slow sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[azure oriole]

I guess in the sense of sending the wrong message yeah that’s valid, but honestly if we’re going down this path the full auto would be more culpable since it’s introduced earlier when the player is still learning the fundamentals of the mechanics.

[visual steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/roleoutsold-giggle-skype-laughing-emoji-gif-22243320

[slow sigil]

down this path the full auto would be more culpable
i did note i have this gripe with all of them

[azure oriole]

Yeah I know

[austere bronze]

I hate livid, dude's not cool towards me🙅‍♂️

[azure oriole]

I just think the full auto is more egregious in this case

[austere bronze]

The full auto is usually not used by the newest players

[young mango]

Because he’s livid

[austere bronze]

It's often utilized by players who have been lead to believe it's some kind of game altering good mod and are often in the middle of the bell curve

[azure oriole]

Have you asked a ton of newbies or something

[coral ivy]

I've only ever heard a pope say Anathema

[visual steeple]

me when i spread information to harass people that people like 🤭

[azure oriole]

It does get overshadowed by the grenade launcher a bit but with how limited the weapons roster and mod selection is in the first few levels I’m assuming a lot of players switched between them

[slow sigil]

sometimes me use big word to use smart brain

[shell fox]

Full auto is only used by people who like to pretend eternal's gameplay is deeper than it actually is

[azure oriole]

That’s what I did anyways

[austere bronze]

No, but I've seen people talk, very new people usually don't see the benefits of it as they want to take out weak points with sticky bombs

[slow sigil]

honestly both the CSG mods are badly designed, in other ways

[austere bronze]

Me when the when the livid the when

[coral ivy]

I know big words, just dont use em

[austere bronze]

FA is usually used by people who don't know just how deep it is,most people don't in fact

[shell fox]

You spread information? does that mean that what ur saying is true?

[slow sigil]

FA isn't at all good enough and, again, disincentives the wrong play style
Stickies meanwhile, are too good, to the point they overshadow the primary fire of the shotgun, to a super obvious degree. Turning your shotgun in a grenade launcher instead since not only does it have splash, it also just has straight up more damage

[shell fox]

Im referencing mayo

[visual steeple]

that was also misnformation you been bamboozled

[shell fox]

Dang...

[austere bronze]

Oh hi Mark, didn't even notice you
I'd say Mayo doesn't really understand the game...

[shell fox]

comically timed explosion that blows me up into a million meaty pieces

[visual steeple]

under the mayo is the best doom eternal player

[austere bronze]

Well yea, I suck at speedrunning since I've never done it

[visual steeple]

he reminds me of my deceased great great great great great grand child

[austere bronze]

Livid lore moment

[azure oriole]

I’m honestly the kind of player that does like switching to mostly unused mods every so often to try them out against new enemies and the like, but I did mostly stop using the full auto after a few hours in since it does feel extremely underpowered against most enemies

Wasn’t very satisfying

[austere bronze]

The damage is extremely underwhelming

And the extra ammo is almist entirely useless

... and then it's also just quite boring

[young mango]

it’s so sad that Mayo died of Steve Jobs

[slow sigil]

who the hell is sad

[glossy warren]

Why is mayo still getting attention this shit happened so long ago

[young mango]

mayo is a trench coat full of crows that evolved from learning water displacement and decided to be a confidently wrong walking inferiority complex with a YouTube channel

[young mango]

tradition

[slow sigil]

every time anyone tries to defend just weak mods, he must be named

[young mango]

his playstyle is literally derivative from blatant contrarianism

[austere bronze]

Took me like 5 tries to understand this message because I'm so tired, but now I understand it, and yeah ig

[young mango]

you don’t have to understand, I just say random shit

[azure oriole]

Hey look at least I never seriously argued that the MT had some secret genius playstyle attached to it and is good because of that

Defending full auto ain’t gonna be a hill I’m willing to die on anyways so

[young mango]

full auto secret top tier?
the marauder from doom?!?!?

[austere bronze]

Full auto secretely trash😢

[frank drum]

full auto secret top tier, no let the normies know !!!

[young mango]

full auto well known trash actually

[lean lynx]

Gotta say

One thing I love about Eternal is how the slayer only took off his helmet at the end but basically no one was surprised to see his face

Because somehow everyone was expecting the same thing to what he looked like

[azure oriole]

Would’ve been better if it was revealed he was John Kane Doom Marine

[lean lynx]

Like everyone could already tell the dark lord looked exactly like him before The Father even says it

[frank drum]

mayo vanquish review was so trash

[azure oriole]

What review of his isn’t

Was hoping he improved but I saw the backlash to his Arkham Knight review along with his response and knew nothing changed lol

[frank drum]

also guy like mid of war eww

and mortal mid bro ugh

[young mango]

mayo when he reviews tying his shoes: 0/10 nothing incentivized me to tie my shoes, they were loose and I kept tripping over the laces, but I was still able to walk in them and their functionality is identical as they were before, so it all seemed kinda pointless

[azure oriole]

[young mango]

like I’m saying he’s an annoying contrarian that will say the most ludicrous shit just for a shot at being viewed as an exception to the general consensus, even if the attention he receives is largely negative

[frank drum]

just fix your vanquish review mayo

[young mango]

I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again, one time Mayo was streaming ultrakill and chat was telling him to use different weapons, then he proceeded to use the shotgun for long range, proceeded to die, and blamed it on the game

mayo literally tried to create artificial issues that did not exist with the game in an attempt to worsen the image of it, why? what does he gain from this asides from trying to negatively effect an indie developer and making himself look like a gigantic idiot in the process?

[frank drum]

Did he explicitly blame the game for that, or did he just throw random insults?

[young mango]

He just said sumshit like “see? it gets me killed”

it’s been a while

[robust jacinth]

What is up guys ☝️ 😄

[lofty oracle]

why do people hate tag2???

I mean except for the final boss which sucks doo doo dogshit

I think its good

[azure oriole]

General lack of difficulty compared to the first dlc and late campaign

Fodder spam and lackluster arena design

Reskinned enemies

[frank drum]

dont play tag2 yet but i fought yellow shield guys and sucks

same with stone imps

but not tha much as yellow shielders

[lofty oracle]

yeah those 2 do suck

but the baron is fine

[azure oriole]

"Hey guys here's an imp, it only has one new attack and is resistant to everything expect full auto. Oh and it's gray now."

[lofty oracle]

imo a better done marauder

[azure oriole]

May be a hot take but I think the armored baron is lame as fuck

[lofty oracle]

I do think they shouldve left it in the oven for a little longer

not really a hot take

he is kinda lame

[frank drum]

he is

[azure oriole]

Like he doesn't even shoot fire balls dawg what are we doing here

[frank drum]

only fought him in horde mode

[young mango]

the funniest part is the health value is still the same in the game, so it’s not even weak to full auto it’s just LESS resistant

and the resistance towards other weapons is so all over the place it’s kinda nutty to try to give an equivalent of what their simulated health would be

it’s strongest resistance is lock on rockets

at, and I shit you not, 25x weaker than usual

if that applied to stimps entire self, it’d have the rough equivalent of 5000hp, as opposed to full auto, which is only twice as weak as normal, which would give him the equivalent of 400hp

what were they even cooking

[lofty oracle]

I have theory that while making doom eternal they started snorting cocaine

which is why the game is so fast

then they did crack for tag1

but then some goober accidentally spilled his fentanyl into their coke stash which is why its not that great

[young mango]

TAG2 Is so good when you skip half of it

[young mango]

cough cough

[azure oriole]

What the fuck lmao

[azure oriole]

I think during a live stream Hugo Martin said tag2 was originally gonna be as nutty as 1 but at some point they decided to just change all the encounters, something about wanting it to be more of a "celebration of doom"

[cloud harness]

Tag worth it?

[visual steeple]

ligma bals

[frank drum]

lololol

[frank drum]

only own tag1 pretty based, and i like spirits

[hexed hollow]

Ok hot take: the marauder is the best demon

[inland cedar]

Concept and design wise it’s one of the best

Still hate going against them

[lofty oracle]

NO

WRONG

NOT HOT TAKE, BAD TAKE

not only is his ai super broken and shitty

and half the time hes just standing there not moving an inch

and not doing the green eye thing

he also often runs toward you

[frank drum]

oops someone is angry

[lofty oracle]

and then randomly dash tothe side and a little closer to shotgun you

[lofty oracle]

I am malding big time

I am a marauder hater

and also whenever a marauder enters an arena he completely freezes the game and makes you go through a tedious process of dealing with him

marauder le bad

[frank drum]

this is so ass bro, when you shoot all your sticky stack and then instanly switch to full-auto you must to wait a cooldown before use full-auto is so aass

this people actually tested the dammed game?

[lofty oracle]

I will have ops house nuked

[lofty oracle]

i dont understand ur broken english sorry bruv

[frank drum]

@austere bronze you make this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMVqiVMQmPI

[young mango]

No that’s a different M1

[hexed hollow]

I like him

[young mango]

Something something bell curve

[lofty oracle]

why?

[hexed hollow]

He looks cool and he’s hard to fight

[frank drum]

i see

[violet zealot]

I wouldn't say hard to fight honestly

[frank drum]

i watching the video pretty interesting

[violet zealot]

quite easily dealt with usually

at least in the base campaign

[hexed hollow]

Usually annoying which is why like him

[young mango]

easy to deal with doesn’t mean the engagement provided by fighting him is any better

[violet zealot]

yeah

like he's ok but doesn't add any spice really

[frank drum]

I usually tend to ignore the marauder fighting against other enemies until it decides to attack me, and right then, I turn to shoot it.

but him is very slow sometimes

[young mango]

post base campaign game design is kind of silly
“wow the marauder seems to be a topic of debate in the community, what do we do?”
“double marauder”
“wow they received that well, what’s our next move?”
“7 MORE TIMES”

[young mango]

Post base campaign game design in doom eternal is like when somebody who’s not very funny tells a funny joke, realizes they actually got people to laugh, so they keep telling it over and over again until it’s not funny anymore

[stiff tendon]

I'm losing my mind

I've been stuck trying to get the arcade slayer skin

For HOURS!!

[wanton notch]

Which one is this?

Can you show a picture?

[stiff tendon]

I cant

I don't know why but I can't send a image

[serene stone]

Here's the right M1:
https://youtu.be/Cj48bWPBTvo?si=cCDW7IdR6-1P8eqa

[violet zealot]

#screenshots

[wanton notch]

Oh. Well I wish you best of luck :((

[stiff tendon]

Sent it

But why is it so hard WHY

[stiff tendon]

[hexed hollow]

Another hot take: the marauder is a baddie😩

[stiff tendon]

[spice jungle]

what do you use the tickets for that you get in hot streaks in battlemode

[wanton notch]

What mission is it?

[stiff tendon]

Collect all weapons on the wheel in hordemode

In NIGHTMARE mode

[wanton notch]

Oh dear

My main tip to you is to never stop moving. Whenever you’re out of ammo find fodder, flame beltch, chainsaw.

[stiff tendon]

On fu@#ing NIGHTMARE

[wanton notch]

Have you made it to the sentinel hammer yet?

[stiff tendon]

Yea

But not on nightmare mode

Only easy mode

[wanton notch]

Oh man, I wish you luck my friend

[stiff tendon]

[wanton notch]

I would say try replaying on easy mode a few times to kinda get yourself in the rhythm and help memorize the enemy spawns

[stiff tendon]

Literally me rn

I can't fucking do it why me

[wanton notch]

You can do this 👽

I BELEIBE IN YOU

[stiff tendon]

Ight I'm try

[wanton notch]

YOU GOT THIS

KEEP ME UPDATED

[stiff tendon]

Ight

I'll try rn

[stiff tendon]

@wanton notch I died

Again

[compact stratus]

Uh I don't know if this allowed but is there anyone who is willing to help me farm battlemode trophies?

[wanton notch]

: (

[stiff tendon]

I'm gonna play later I'll keep you updated

[wanton notch]

Okayyyy, stay safe in the meantime

[stiff tendon]

Too tired rn

[stiff tendon]

Ight bye for 2 to 3 hours

[wanton notch]

Bye bye, I’ll probably be asleep when you get back

[frank drum]

based classic pov

This game is so crazy, i see that when you're quick switching everything, the weak points don't matter at all.

the dark ages will be more tactical, right? so weak points will matter more.

[young mango]

grahhh

[strange gale]

this is so corny man

they just went back to old school game design, it's not that deep

[azure oriole]

I was wondering if playing the quake games could be fun do you guys think the quake games hold up to Doom ive never played one but they look kinda fun.

aight im fine with that honestly

I just played through doom 1 and 2 for the first time

[cloud harness]

Not bad just old

[young mango]

“bad graphics” yeah man they should’ve totally done 4k ray tracing in 1996

what were they thinking huh?

for their time it really didn’t get much better

[frank drum]

love quake 1 aesthetics

quake 2 👎

[azure oriole]

I like quake 1s charm i havent seen much of quake 2 i feel like there was a charm with games that has kinda been lost lately

[cloud harness]

Quake 2 has charm

[azure oriole]

Im looking at a trailer and those games are pretty hype even right now

a new quake thing like they did with doom would be pretty cool honestly

[devout atlas]

Alot of games have charm even if they are old

Hell some games even try their best to recreate that charm of being old

[visual steeple]

Quantum how is doom eternal have u played it?

[devout atlas]

I finished the campaign and it was AWESOME!!!!

Rip and tear, until it is done!

[visual steeple]

Awesome brother, you finished in like 2 days lol

[devout atlas]

1 week

[devout atlas]

An example would be Ultrakill

Or Dusk

[visual steeple]

Has it really been a week since we last talked? Crazy.

[devout atlas]

They have that very retro charm

[devout atlas]

Mhm!

[azure oriole]

How much is ultrakill actually because ive been interested in that game for a couple years

hold up ill check

[visual steeple]

Play the game never get involved with the community.

[azure oriole]

Damn 33$

[devout atlas]

HUH

[visual steeple]

Get it on sale lol

[visual steeple]

It makes sense because in the beginning it had no content so it would be cheap.

[azure oriole]

thats alot for a game thats got ps2 graphics i dont really care about graphics but 33$ i better get something that atleast looks like black ops 2

[devout atlas]

ITS 15 DOLLARS ON MY END HUH

[visual steeple]

Now that it’s nearly finished it would be more expensive,

[azure oriole]

I mean i am canadian but

[visual steeple]

Unless it’s different currency.

[devout atlas]

NO SALE

[visual steeple]

Yup Canadian

[devout atlas]

Canada

[azure oriole]

thats still 25 usd

[devout atlas]

Jesus Christ I didn't know you were Canadian

[visual steeple]

I disagree, gameplay > graphics always.

Unless it’s that one goofy ass game where you fish and the graphics are beyond potato

(fps game btw)

Cruelty squad that’s what it is.

[azure oriole]

thats what im saying but 33$ is alot if were talking a ps2 looking game

[visual steeple]

Looks don’t matter Jesus it’s what’s on the inside

[azure oriole]

they must of made a crazy profit though

[visual steeple]

You know that better than anyone

[azure oriole]

I know im still gonna play it just get it on sale or something

[azure oriole]

facts

[visual steeple]

It’s gonna be well worth your money, however don’t get involved with the people

You cannot save them Jesus.

[azure oriole]

Thats how i feel about the souls community honestly

[devout atlas]

What's that retro boomer shooter style where you have a grappling hook but it's actually a lamp

[visual steeple]

Souls community idk much about them but Ultrakill is filled with degenerates

[visual steeple]

Uh

What.

[devout atlas]

Souls is funny, especially the Elden Ring one

[devout atlas]

Yes.

[azure oriole]

honestly souls community is fine but if you use a good weapon they say you didnt actually beat the game or something

[visual steeple]

Schizophrenic Arena Shooter

[visual steeple]

That’s a small minority of degenerates.

[azure oriole]

yeah pretty much theres worse communities out there

[visual steeple]

There’s also gonna be mfs saying you never really played doom eternal unless it’s nightmare

I seen people say ultra-violence is easy and nightmare is normal.

But that’s a small amount of people.

[devout atlas]

The dev for ultrakill is based though

[visual steeple]

He is something.

[azure oriole]

I know play a game on whatever difficulty you want man how does that affect me you know.

[visual steeple]

I still think everyone should play the hardest difficulty just for fun in any game just to push your limits on how much of a gamer u are unless u casual ofc

[devout atlas]

There's a person here named M1 he's so freaking cool because he has so much restrictions and he's still breaking demon backs

[visual steeple]

M1 is so short

@austere bronze Ur short

[devout atlas]

He's taller than me

[azure oriole]

I feel like gaming should mostly be about having fun not being pressured to play a game on the hardest difficulty

[visual steeple]

Disagree

[devout atlas]

Wait no he's not! Unless he lied...

I swear he said something about "I wish I was short"

[visual steeple]

I simply spread misinformation until they are not.

[devout atlas]

Hakita had like one take about piracy that goes

People shouldn't be barred from experiencing art from different cultures and people because of how wealthy they are.

So he approves of piracy because he wouldn't be Hakita today if he didn't experience piracy in some form or another influencing him

[visual steeple]

He’s the same guy that made ultrakill dildo compatible which I find disgusting.

Good publicity stunt. Still pretty disgusting.

[devout atlas]

I can't tell if this is one of your misinformation bits

[visual steeple]

No, this is real you can find it on twitter.

[devout atlas]

Honestly- that's weird but kinda funny 😭

[visual steeple]

I find the community already disgusting for fetishizing the characters, but the fact that he encourages it makes me not like him.

The shit with mirage and dildo. nah bro you’re something.

But anyways.

@devout atlas have you tried the dlcs of eternal?

[devout atlas]

Nop

Haven't because I'm busy with BG3

[visual steeple]

Did you find eternal difficult

[devout atlas]

Yes because I am very bad

[azure oriole]

wait what about a ultrakill dildo wtf?

[devout atlas]

JESUS CHRIST NOOOOOO

[visual steeple]

You can search it up I’ve said enough.

[visual steeple]

What do you think of the marauder

[devout atlas]

VEGA YOU-

[visual steeple]

real

[azure oriole]

no actual way the developper of ultra kill put in a compatible buttplug with ultrakill as well i just found that on the internet

[devout atlas]

He's fun, but he's utterly terrifying

[azure oriole]

im sorry dawg

[devout atlas]

He takes too long to do actually show an opening for an attack

[visual steeple]

I’m surprised totally thought mfs be crying about him.

[devout atlas]

But he's fun

[visual steeple]

Eternal does a terrible job explaining the marauder

[azure oriole]

idk about you guys but after that info im downloading ultrakill

Im joking

[devout atlas]

I had the displeasure of dealing with 2 Mauraders in a POISON AREA

[devout atlas]

J.C NOOOOO DON'T ADD THE THINGY!!!!!!

[visual steeple]

Well he is a lot more complex than that.

[young mango]

I Love the marauder, doom eternal is a better game with his inclusion, he’s fast, he hits hard, and he doesn’t follow the rules

[visual steeple]

Tammie I hope you stub your toe.

[young mango]

I’ve been micro dosing toe stubbing I’m immune

[azure oriole]

Honestly the marauder is my favorite enemy in the game and is a great inclusion to the gameplay.

[devout atlas]

Also honestly aside from this he's VERY fun

[azure oriole]

did you do super gore nest master level?

[devout atlas]

Yes

[young mango]

You got copy pastad

[visual steeple]

The marauder should’ve had another explanation containing

Shoot at him for no reason = dog spawn
Tip: make him run at you after his axe for a free flash attack.

[azure oriole]

yeah that is the problem with him

[devout atlas]

Invisible whiplashes can suck my ass- I mean go to hell

[young mango]

the funny part is the axe throw makes him just as vulnerable as his greenlight and that’s not mentioned once in game

[azure oriole]

In TAG1 that part with the buff totem marauder in a super close space annoys me so much though because i play on nightmare and cant think of a real strat for it

[devout atlas]

Oh, that's why the dog spawns

[frank drum]

I love close spaces

[azure oriole]

Im a fan of it too but not that instance

[visual steeple]

Exactly you didn’t know that even though it should’ve been communicated.

[frank drum]

Isn't the main idea of ​​weak points supposed to be to neutralize enemies at a distance so that they are no longer a threat and you can deal with the other enemies?

[azure oriole]

yeah basically

[frank drum]

So they matters then

[visual steeple]

the urge to not bombard you with tech is like me holding back a flood

tammie shut up

[young mango]

unforunately energy shield bullshittery has been long since patched out

[young mango]

dude predicted my bullshittery and told me to shut up in advanced thats so cazy😭😭😭

[visual steeple]

me when witness Tammie is typing

[young mango]

1 ping tammie: insert gif of man opening fridge from the fridges POV, with him initially rubbing his hands in excitement, only to be quickly dissapointed, swiftly shutting the refridgerator

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[visual steeple]

So true when I see tammie speak in english

[young mango]

This exact one!

[visual steeple]

It's time to indoctrinate the people of #doom-eternal to become lightningbreak levels of pro

[young mango]

time to indocrintate the people of doom eternal to start actually playing the game

[visual steeple]

starting with @azure oriole

next we do @devout atlas

[young mango]

I’m halfway through hell on earth guys🥳 for reference my playtime is 1943.1 hours! I think I’m almost ready for hurt me plenty!

[visual steeple]

tammie you better not be writing a parag-

real

[young mango]

guys when does the hell knight show up

[visual steeple]

oh no seems that i am alone in the chat with tammie, i better run now.

[young mango]

unfortunate

[visual steeple]

[azure oriole]

i gotchu dawg

[young mango]

oh my god it’s Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ is Jason Christ

Jason born

[lilac dirge]

What if it isnt Jesus, nothing states in the bible he used discord

[young mango]

that’s because Jesus was a closeted discord user and was ashamed to admit it

it’s in his secret diary

[lilac dirge]

Ah, it all makes sense now, ty for the clarification

[young mango]

We got environmental Bible story telling before gta6

[azure oriole]

Yep the bible is just a big discord server

[young mango]

https://tenor.com/view/chalmers-simpsons-may-i-see-it-talking-gif-11870196

[devout atlas]

I got pinged why?

Hello 👋

[young mango]

Because people think you’re awesome and want to talk to you or something. I think

[devout atlas]

That's very sweet

[young mango]

idk just check your notifs

[azure oriole]

No

[young mango]

It’s not Intended to be I’m just gobsmacked right now

[devout atlas]

Why am I being indoctrinated into being better

[devout atlas]

Why did Gob smack you

[young mango]

Who the fuck is gob

[visual steeple]

Because you are present in this text channel

[azure oriole]

A rock band apparently

[visual steeple]

Your mom’s nickname last night

[azure oriole]

Got em

[visual steeple]

[devout atlas]

With very bad internet connection

[young mango]

my moms nickname last night was actually “the keymaker”

ha! Ha! Get that correct!

[devout atlas]

In the first age

In the first battle

-# I forgor

[azure oriole]

Yup he sure did

[gentle shale]

I’ve started my nightmare run

It really is a nightmare

[austere bronze]

Why are you reflecting yourself at me? You told me that you're 4'11

[visual steeple]

Listen you can't spread misinformation if you are 2"10

[austere bronze]

Sorry😔

[visual steeple]

@lyric pike you should find a new game to play oyff is simply better than you 😔

[azure oriole]

What a strange thing to say

[visual steeple]

he is also stinky

[dry yacht]

Both of you are short as fuck.

[austere bronze]

Ross, you aint special

[acoustic lark]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A MILE?!?!?!

Just use the metric system already, like 95% of the rest of the world

[amber elk]

After the update my game started freezing, how can I fix this?

[native pecan]

yes i can relate

[devout atlas]

M1 you're very tall

What in the fudge is that name

[native pecan]

no but for real what is a mile?

[devout atlas]

I don't think that's allowed

[native pecan]

idk didnt get banned or anything

no server has banned me or warned me atleast i dont remember one

[austere bronze]

I am not very tall, I'm only a bit above average

[devout atlas]

What's even the average height

I'm 5'4 and tiny

[austere bronze]

In the US it's 5'9, you guys are tiny

Here the average is 5'11

[devout atlas]

I'm small

[austere bronze]

+some

[devout atlas]

You could unironically pick me up and throw me across the street

[steady ember]

I'm 5'10

[devout atlas]

Man-

Why is everyone so tall

[steady ember]

genetics mostly, I don't think height should be something you care toooo much about

[native pecan]

i am short

i think idk

[devout atlas]

I mean yeah I don't mind being short

But everyone is so tall

[austere bronze]

Probably throw you a bit a least

[devout atlas]

Ragh!

[devout atlas]

Yeah you could - 😭

[native pecan]

i have a friend you could keep in your pocket

[austere bronze]

I thought the average height in the US was also 5'11, but when I looked it up it was 5'9💀
I am forever going to joke about the americans height

[steady ember]

honestly in my experience I feel like most people I encounter are taller than me lol

[austere bronze]

I looked up the average, not the median, so maybe you guys just have a few really short guys idk

[devout atlas]

Yeah

In my country we are somewhat shorter

But I think I'm below the average

[austere bronze]

Being short is op

It makes you better at doom eternal

[native pecan]

When you get in a fight you can chomp their knees

very useful indeed

[devout atlas]

Not when your hands are small

[native pecan]

yea

i lost multiple times bc my hands are small

[austere bronze]

But being short means less distance for neurons to travel which means faster reaction speed

[steady ember]

just get a smaller keyboard

[austere bronze]

And all my binds are very, very easy to reach

[devout atlas]

I don't think that's how that works

[devout atlas]

I will eventually

[austere bronze]

You just have to bind your weapons around WASD

Then it's no problem even with small hands

[steady ember]

I'm a default keybindings gamer

I press q after using the SSG

[austere bronze]

Default binds in Eternal suck, having to reach that far for weapons is not really that fast

[steady ember]

just scroll

[devout atlas]

I use the ssg even when it's not convenient because I like to see demons go pop

[steady ember]

😏

[austere bronze]

It works, but there are way better options

[austere bronze]

Even slower, less accurate and you can't quick switch with FSE, or quick switch decently at all

[steady ember]

I never struggled in the base game or DLC because I couldn't quick swap from the plasma gun to the SSG to the machine gun in 2 seconds

[devout atlas]

Should demons have rights? Eh, kaboom 💥

[steady ember]

I don't really think its that important

for high level play I can understand it, but on Nightmare I never felt I needed to

[native pecan]

you ever wonder what life would had been if the marauders would just come out of nowhere?

[austere bronze]

You don't even have to switch weapons in order not to struggle, but it's still easier

[devout atlas]

I left my ssg and ballista at home sorry

[austere bronze]

Just because it works doesn't mean it's close to the best

[steady ember]

eh I guess I'm not the optimizing type

respect to those who are into that

[austere bronze]

So you still have pb? Then it's no problem

[native pecan]

i still dont know the trick to quickly switching between my shotgun and ballista to change his attack and get free kills

[devout atlas]

The tone coming from this message is a little funny

[steady ember]

sorry, I sent that message specifically to not seem like I was saying people who like being the absolute best they can be are dumb or anything

[austere bronze]

I believe you can 2 cycle him with precision bolt only, but maybe it's 3, I can't test rn and I don't wanna do the math

[steady ember]

did not mean to have the opposite effect lol

high level doom eternal play is really neat to watch

[austere bronze]

Yeah, it really is

[native pecan]

i saw a czech youtuber do it but i still dont know how to do it

[devout atlas]

No no I get it you weren't being mean but it just felt like a

"Oh, it's okay if your into that I guess" joke

[steady ember]

doomy ternal

[devout atlas]

Doom internal

[steady ember]

I replayed it a few months ago along with 2016

maybe its time for another replay lol

[devout atlas]

2016 is fun but gets repetitive

Because my head hurts trying to move around the map

[devout atlas]

It looks the same

[steady ember]

you mean you get lost?

[devout atlas]

I get lost easily

I should not be trusted with a map

[steady ember]

I actually rather like the more non linear maps in 2016, Eternal rarely gets into more non linear map design

[native pecan]

ye i was doing the super gore nest master level and i got lost

[steady ember]

which isn't necessarily a bad thing

Super Gore Nest is probably the map with the most non linearity

[native pecan]

i dont know what that means:/

[raven storm]

it doesn't tell you what to do necessarily

[native pecan]

ohhhhhhh

[steady ember]

well its not true non linearity, but it lets you do things in different orders

[native pecan]

yea but it was the master level

[steady ember]

same layout, yeah?

[native pecan]

so no marking on the hud

atleast didnt see it

[steady ember]

I think I still haven't beaten 2 master levels

one of them is the world spear

[native pecan]

wait

i dont know if there are more master levels that 4

because it only show me 4

[steady ember]

do you have the dlc?

[native pecan]

nope im poor

[steady ember]

there are 6 master levels

[native pecan]

oh

but i dont think i need the dlc

[steady ember]

but only one is of a DLC level so idk why you would only have 4

maybe the other one uses DLC monsters

[native pecan]

im already in pain trying to find all the secrets

[steady ember]

I would say its worth it, there are 2 DLCs with 3 levels each

[native pecan]

oh

i only seen some videos of the final boss

some big mech i think

maybe i get crucified for now knowing or not

who knows

[dry yacht]

yes i am, i am the best

[steady ember]

friends, we're all special in our own unique way 🙂

[austere bronze]

Ross is special in the sense of autism
(I am making stuff up)

[austere bronze]

There is 1 more: cultist base

[native pecan]

welp

[austere bronze]

But you have to buy the rip & tear pack for 5$ to get it

[native pecan]

only shows me super gore nest arc compley

and i dont remember more

[austere bronze]

All the master levels: cultist base, arc complex, taras nabad, mars core, super gore nest and the world spear

[steady ember]

ohhh

I think I got that for free because I preordered the game

[austere bronze]

Yeah

[native pecan]

i almost stabbed myself with a knife i keep on my table for fun

good thing its dull

[steady ember]

you shouldn't do that

[native pecan]

read my name

[steady ember]

I've been trying to ignore that

[native pecan]

welp

is there a channel for saying fun facts or i can just say them anytime i want?

[devout atlas]

We're all trying to ignore it

[azure oriole]

No shit

[native pecan]

wat

[azure oriole]

Dull knives are more dangerous than sharp ones

[native pecan]

why

blunt trauma?

[native pecan]

answer is it bc of blunt trauma?

[azure oriole]

no dull knives are not sharp enough to cut what you're trying to cut but it is enough to cut you

[native pecan]

oh

welp im alr and its small

smaller than my peanut sized brain

[spice jungle]

@worldly summit gg youre insane

[high sorrel]

Doom Eternal crashed in the middle of the game

😞

Hopefully not much progress is lost.

[azure oriole]

wtf

[austere bronze]

Wtf are you on about

[orchid latch]

Spammer or smthn

[sand urchin]

how do you get all the cheat codes (I have all of them in the campaign but some are still missing)

[azure oriole]

There’s some on the slayers ship

[sand urchin]

I only got like 3 there

[fringe torrent]

One is unlocked by buying all Praetor suit perks

[sand urchin]

Ok nice

That means I have a lot to do

[river quarry]

what happens if i die 666 times in doom?

[azure oriole]

Nothing

[river quarry]

but it evil number and doom is about killing the demons like you could get demon mode

[azure oriole]

My head hurts

[river quarry]

or sumthin

idk (i've never played doom enternal)

[fringe torrent]

Why does every new user call it Enternal lmao

[river quarry]

bruh

what chat are you in?

[fringe torrent]

#doom-eternal

What does that matter

[river quarry]

...

-_-

[fringe torrent]

Sir, it's not called Enternal

It's Eternal, without the first n

[river quarry]

lots of other people call it enternal

[fringe torrent]

That's exactly what I was saying lol

[river quarry]

OHHHH

[fringe torrent]

But I'll answer your question; nothing happens

[river quarry]

i thought you'd get like demo mode where the bot is the doom guy and bots and the player is demons

[fringe torrent]

There's a demon mode though, you can play as a demon in the multiplayer

[fringe torrent]

There's a multiplayer mode like that

[river quarry]

https://youtu.be/LJs6VNXgVBc

... ok

found this when i searched doom eternal

[devout atlas]

This is my first time playing on Ultra Violence, it's hard for someone like me with bad aim

[tiny gust]

Hi guys, ik nobody likes marauder and to kill him you need to you need to catch the timings when his eyes turn green several times, but is there a way to kill him faster?

[azure oriole]

With an adequate understanding of your kit you can do amazing things

https://youtu.be/rUqdmzJBFIM
https://youtu.be/55bG8KCaDtk

[tiny gust]

The best advice is to learn how to make quickswitch, if you make the right layout, it will greatly simplify your mastering it, personally I made an ultrakill-like layout and it is very convenient for me
Its like
1 - shotgun
2 - heavy canon
3 - super shotgun
4 - ballista
5 - rocket launcher
Mouse5 - chaingun
Mouse4 - plasma gun

After setting up the layout, you just have to learn how to switch all weapons via heavy cannon, because it will be faster, you can often just use connections, like heavy canon + balista/heavy canon + rocket launcher

You can also quickly switch weapons through punch, it's very easy to learn on some weapons, but you won't use it so often

[tiny gust]

I knew about the second method, but it seems I was doing it wrong, weren't these methods was fixed in future updates?

[azure oriole]

Foot ballista was very briefly patched but was brought back not long after

Second method I think you just gotta be perfect in your inputs, no room for error

[tiny gust]

Yeah, and it's insanely simple, like I said, I knew about it before, but apparently I was doing it wrong

[azure oriole]

I've only pulled it off a handful of times myself

[austere bronze]

You need to do a SLOB to make the second strat work, otherwise you're too slow

[azure oriole]

Something with the delays that I might be missing

I think you can do it without slob but you need to be extremely precise with your grenades

[austere bronze]

It's all about learning fundamentals: usage of equipment, adequate weapon switching, movement, usage of meathook along with other mods and understanding the enemy AI in some capacity

[tiny gust]

slob?

[floral ledge]

yoo i just beat ancient gods 2

[austere bronze]

Sylar lock-on burst

It's a tech that makes lock-on speedy

[tiny gust]

I guessed, I meant how to do it

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/H_k7ZgLTXXw?si=560X7OAsJQGmw1oC

[austere bronze]

Yo, nice

[azure oriole]

honestly its cool but i think its mainly good for speedruns.

[austere bronze]

It's very good in casual play too

[magic citrus]

nice but it only works on pc right ?

[azure oriole]

Yeah it is definitely faster

[austere bronze]

It works on console too

https://youtu.be/hG57XKhlB5g?si=p5p15J8FjQiqNhgG

[magic citrus]

oh

[young mango]

When you straight Chiefin that credit karma cart and the crib fucking explodes from a gas leak https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1277810732230250628/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_70.mp4?ex=66cf2e3b&is=66cddcbb&hm=51a181edc6b0a5967d90e6c397cc8e085bba797ff7f44ace4dc54d9eb66ff8f4&

[magic citrus]

thats nice thx

[azure oriole]

bruh what

how that even work

[magic citrus]

there is an ability that u can shoot the shild to enemys mayby with this

[magic citrus]

i saw that in speedruns too

[strange gale]

you override the shield's zero-damage collision check that's run every frame with the shield bash, then use chrono strike to increase your effective framerate which results in just a little bit of damage 🌝

[azure oriole]

This is gonna sound stupid but i think at a certain point doom eternal speedruns had to much tech to be as fun anymore.

[young mango]

different categories exist for a reason

[azure oriole]

yeah true

[magic citrus]

in the dlc 1 was a really importan glitch to bug u throw wals idk if they fixed it but that was cracy

[young mango]

and the fact that the tech shown here ( energy shield bulldozer ) was introduced so late into eternals lifespan that it’s actually a time LOSS to use it because you’d have to play on a later patch

[azure oriole]

yeah true

I liked doom eternal speedrunning the most in like 2021 i was watching the record yesterday and it was ridiculously fast

[fringe torrent]

As speedruns tend to be

[magic citrus]

but on consolle u have not so a big chance if on pc

[young mango]

I wish I could get back into TAG2 but I can’t bring myself to do much speedrunning or really much of anything involving this game lately

[azure oriole]

Yeah i know i just mean theres a certain point in a game where it becomes too techy to be interesting anymore

thats just me though

[fringe torrent]

I never watch speedruns for 'fun', I like challenge videos for that

[young mango]

this just in: speedrun actually uses speedrun strats 😨😨

[azure oriole]

I think you may be misunderstanding me slightly

[magic citrus]

those u guys played on pc or consolle ?

i think the wappon switshing is on consolle very slow

[azure oriole]

Theres people who are really good at weapon switching on controller but its way harder no doubt about it

[magic citrus]

yes ur right but on pc u only have to press one button to get all the wapons

if people can do it fast on consolle they are really pros

on consolle u have this wappon weel that u have to open first

[azure oriole]

I know i played on console for like 2 years and within a week on pc i was already a better player pc has such a distinct advantage

[magic citrus]

thats because all the speedruns are on pc

[austere bronze]

They aren't

MMAFRO is a really good console speedrunner

[austere bronze]

You can bind your weapons

[young mango]

also potdechoucroute did some pc speedrunning with a controller back in 2022 I think

[magic citrus]

on buttons i want ?

[austere bronze]

Yes

[magic citrus]

thanks for the help

i will look

👍

[austere bronze]

Tammie is a boomer confirmed

[young mango]

wat

[azure oriole]

What’s good, Slayers?!

Finally beat TAG 1 and 2 on PC. As a console guy, it was a lot of fun learning the keys and getting into the flow.

[austere bronze]

All that slang, sounds like a boomer trying to fit in🥱
Or it's me who can't understand shit

[young mango]

I’m just saying nonsense

[austere bronze]

Nice man! Playing on PC is rewarding, but it takes some getting used to

[austere bronze]

Thought so

[tiny gust]

Another combat technique?

[young mango]

yeah I suppose, although far more glitchy

it’s probably a relief to hear that the bar for execution is actually set really low however

[cunning spade]

hey

what should i do if i get this?

i cant put the image but its an herror from the DOOM eternal mod support

is like a white rectangle and crashes the game

[tiny gust]

Yep, it's combat technique, just checked, and as a quick switching it highly depends on your fps

[young mango]

this in particular is a bit more dependent than you’d think

it quite literally runs it’s damage intervals per frame

also the fact that on much lower framerates it becomes far less feasible

[young mango]

as in it straight up just won’t work at like 60 and below unless rng is blessing you

[tiny gust]

Well, my fps is often above 200, sometimes even up to 400-500, but only in certain locations

[young mango]

okay

[unique tendon]

I have probably already asked this on this server before, but what do you think would happen if a soul was selected for the argent energy process, but no matter what torture was gone through they didn't lose hope. Samuel Hayden says that specifically a soul has to lose all hope to be refined into argent energy

Once the soul leaves the body It's supposed to become a demon, but what would happen if that demon still kept their soul?

[tiny gust]

Such a soul cannot be chosen, Samuel said that the judge decides whether the soul is ready, they make sure that the soul has lost hope, if not, it will fall into the bloody swamps

[unique tendon]

he never specifies what criteria the blind judge uses

Unless it's listed in some kind of bio entry

[tiny gust]

I don't think it's important, I'm sure the judge has his own ways, after all, this is hell and its creatures, we generally won't be able to fully understand their nature, doom eternal as a whole left many questions undisclosed

[unique tendon]

I'm just saying, it would be cool to see the doom slayer have a demon ally. I have this idea for a character that managed to see the doom slayer in his last moments, sparking an inquenchable blaze of hope that would allow him to keep his hope up while deep in the city of necroval. His body slowly turning demonic and powerful as his own soul generates raw argent energy

[tiny gust]

It sounds cool, but unfortunately we never meet a single soul in nekravol, only demons

[slow sigil]

the wretch:

[unique tendon]

Oh I forgot about that guy

You think we're going to be able to meet him in the dark ages?

[tiny gust]

I don't think that demons can be considered souls, given that in fact they are creatures of the dark lord, demons who went beyond immora, Samuel said that people are created for suffering, they all go to argent energy, well, or I just don't remember lore well

[midnight sparrow]

Lost Souls

Forgotten Ones from Doom 3 as well probably

OH and Spirits from The Ancient Gods

Maybe Pain Elementals as well. There lore in Eternal states they constantly generate Lost Souls within there bodies but that’s kind of a stretch on them having a soul they can call there own

[keen dune]

I bet I can name all demons in doom eternal

[regal walrus]

Yeh there's only like 20

[midnight sparrow]

there names aren’t very hard to remember either

[keen dune]

Yeah

Fair point

[midnight sparrow]

If you wanna get real specific you got the demons that aren’t on the traditional enemy roster that still show up in game or are mentioned

So like 22 still lmao

[floral forge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-sword-fire-video-game-gif-17907135

[azure oriole]

Demons have at least their own unique life forces, as the soul cube harvested them

Whether or not a demon has a soul probably depends on what kind of demon it is and how it’s made

So archviles are like necromancers

I can see necromancy being the case since all of their encounters are after you kill a few demons

[tardy pier]

Imagine they expanded on the whole tentacle monster things

A whole level about full squids/octopus (idk what theyre tentacles to) with a giant one being the final boss

[devout atlas]

One thing I do like is the maurader DOESN'T TAKE 50 YEARS TO ATTACK

Ultra violence makes them faster so instead of having to wait until they attack you can just know they will hit with the opening as soon as possible

[frank drum]

Yeah marauder is ass

Try to kill other enemies until he decides to attack

[young mango]

Increased tokens 😛

[devout atlas]

UV is very fun but also harder than I thought

[azure oriole]

nightmare is the best

[thick mirage]

You get used to it lol

I'm replying again and I've completed super gore nest

But that one area in cultist base right after you get the rocket launcher is like the hardest part

[azure oriole]

4 mancubi with shit ton of gargoyles and a sus caco

[wanton cedar]

what do after beating campaign

[native pecan]

Master levels try to 100% maybe

[austere bronze]

Higher difficulty=more tokens=more enemy attacks

[azure oriole]

master levels ultra nightmare

[native pecan]

I could barely beat hurt me plenty:/

[azure oriole]

You must actively trying to die if you’re struggling like that lol

[native pecan]

Im just dumb and i barely know how to switch weapons properly

[devout atlas]

Not everyone is good at certain games

Including me

[young mango]

#general message

[azure oriole]

Doesn’t mean they can’t get better

[azure oriole]

[devout atlas]

We can, it's just we can't get better immediately after playing

[austere bronze]

... but you don't start out good

[azure oriole]

What i said lol

[young mango]

hi monstercat I am better than you at this video game therefore I hold manufactured superiority over you

sounds silly right?

[azure oriole]

I don’t get what you trying to say

[devout atlas]

I just learned SSG ballista Quick swap and I have never seen a tyrant go down so fast

This is really fun

[azure oriole]

And no i just want them to get better i’m not insulting bro calm down

[azure oriole]

Sure is

[devout atlas]

The tone you said the messages sounded really hostile

[azure oriole]

I get that a lot

[young mango]

you don’t get a lot of things

[devout atlas]

That's not a bragging point...

[azure oriole]

At this point it is

[devout atlas]

😭

[young mango]

if everybody colloquially perceives you as that, perhaps it is not a subjective witch-hunt towards you, and that you are actually undesirable to be around

[azure oriole]

Enough about me go kill some demons

[azure oriole]

Oh well i’m not trying to get people to be around me

[strange gale]

triple tokens 😋

[devout atlas]

How many tokens is it in each difficulty?

Like is UV double tokens?

And Nightmare is Triple tokens?

[azure oriole]

What token you talking about anyway

Weapon upgrade tokens?

[strange gale]

oh i'm talking about a mod, it uses nightmare tokens as a base and triples them

[azure oriole]

Nvm

[devout atlas]

I'm scared of you-

Madlad

[austere bronze]

Is there even a difference between triple and infinite tokens?

Maybe archviles actually do what they're supposed to? But I think there's still enough tokens for them to keep attacking

[strange gale]

inf tokens mess with archvile summoning so it's technically easier than triple tokens

n with triple tokens everything's gonna be attacking all the time anyway so i can't really tell the difference

[austere bronze]

Ah alright, never thought abiut using 3x tokens to fix that issue tbh

[azure oriole]

What mod you guys talking about

[austere bronze]

Token modifiers

[storm eagle]

lol stop being like this

[azure oriole]

Can’t

[wanton cedar]

I finished the game on uv, what are the mastery challenges? is that the list that replaces the 3 mission challenges thing

that was my first playthrough

[azure oriole]

You mean weapon mastery or master levels

[wanton cedar]

master levels

[azure oriole]

They’re the same levels from the main game with the only difference being demon spawns

[wanton cedar]

oh right I read about unlocking that

[azure oriole]

The demons you fight on those levels are rebalanced for a full arsenal

[wanton cedar]

is that a mission select thing like ng+ or do u start from scratch

[azure oriole]

Ng+

[wanton cedar]

cool I'll try that today

[azure oriole]

Make sure you max everything before you try the master levels

[wanton cedar]

I still haven't used the tokens that lets u skip weapon challenges

[azure oriole]

Except cultist base that one is the easiest

[wanton cedar]

well I used one for the ssg

[azure oriole]

I’d use it for destroyer blade and lock on burst

Most of those weapon mastery challenges are something you get just by playing normally

[wanton cedar]

yep I'll consider destroyer blade

[gloomy elm]

Ballista is best gun. Agree disagree

secound is super shotty

[azure oriole]

What does add the new update on PS5 ?

[fallen heart]

thats my 2 fav guns aswell...SSG & meathook. Both best for movement & damage (destroyer blade/destroyer blade double shots)

[cerulean dirge]

anyone got recommended keybinds?

[austere bronze]

Maybe not the best, but these are mine
walk: wasd
jump: space
dash: LSHIFT
shoot: left click
weapon mod: right click
melee: F
chainsaw: X
grenade: LCTRL
flame belch: R
Crucible/hammer: V
weapon wheel: Y
switch weapon mod: CAPS
switch grenade: G
CSG: scroll down
heavy cannon: E
rocket launcher: Q
ballista: scroll up
SSG: T
chaingun: TAB
plasma rifle: 2
BFG: 5

[devout atlas]

The story is very silly I love it, the intern trying to save the world is very fun

[austere bronze]

the entire game is silly

[devout atlas]

It's silly and badass

The unholy union of silliness and badassery

[austere bronze]

yea, pretty much

[devout atlas]

I finished 1-2 TAG 1

I'm holding off on Mission 3 because my brain is not working so well

[austere bronze]

fair enough

whatchu thinking so far?

[devout atlas]

It's very silly, But also badass

And more importantly it was fun

The platforming effed me up a bit but as soon as I got the hang of it I breezed through the second platforming

[mild loom]

I just finished Doom Eternal yayyy

as always - the best

[austere bronze]

ye

[austere bronze]

noice

[verbal wigeon]

Sup everyone

[austere bronze]

hi

i think i might play some doom eternal today, or I'll keep avoiding it

[verbal wigeon]

I like to avoid it as I am getting way too addicted but can't lmao

The game is way too fun to play

[austere bronze]

im avoiding it simply becasue i dont really feel like playing

[verbal wigeon]

I guess some ripping and tearing needs to be done at least once a week

[verbal wigeon]

Hopefully we get brutal Doom Eternal and people suddenly change their minds

[austere bronze]

people change their mind about what?

[verbal wigeon]

Not too much new content

[austere bronze]

i usually play daily, but now ive barely played for a week and havent even touched the game in 3 days or something

[verbal wigeon]

IG there are new Doom maps but hopefully we see something different in terms of gameplay. Something new

[austere bronze]

I'd want some rebalancing in terms of the arsenal in that case

[verbal wigeon]

More ammo would be nice

TBh it would be better

[austere bronze]

I'd probably want less ammo if anything

[verbal wigeon]

U got the hammer but sometimes the feeling of missing some combos mid fight because of low ammo or no ammo is horrible af

[verbal wigeon]

That's ur opinion ig

Just some PS opinion ntg too serious

[austere bronze]

it mostly comes down to how much you like/dislike chainsawing and how much you value resource management

[austere bronze]

i just don't like the hammer at all lol

[verbal wigeon]

If there are more ways to recharge and maybe destroying more weakpoints like in horde mode it would be nicer

[austere bronze]

It's already way too easy to charge

[verbal wigeon]

Yea.Sometimes shits recharged without my knowledge lol

[royal arch]

more ammo imo

[austere bronze]

Make the stun a falter, have it require 5 weak points destroyed/GKs, no ammo gained and armor gained reduces with each demon you hit

[verbal wigeon]

Would be cool

[verbal wigeon]

Heavier the demons more the ammo or armor you get

I mean the type of demon

Like marauder more and zombie less

Like that

Frequent use of hammer gives you nothing

Would be nice too

[verbal wigeon]

Yea true

I wouldn't expect 24 SSG to IDK maybe 16, that would suck real bad

[austere bronze]

I think 16 shotgun ammo sounds way better than 24

24 is a lot

On top of that you get 15 or 16 shotgun ammo after each chainsaw, so that too should be reduced in my opinion

But chainsawing should be way faster and savagery should apply to it

So the total time spent chainsawing would probably be less, but you would actually have to manage your ammo

[versed umbra]

haha downloading the 90gb thing again to experience the hell today

I hope it will be downlaoded in few hours

35gb downloaded in 12 minutes is crazy

[spice jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1035572081775100018/1278383968181555332/20240828180121_1.jpg?ex=66d09b59&is=66cf49d9&hm=b5e0d3eac60e444b83626cc67055dae846c2d2da869383d896494c0f03d5838d&

everything's been done, only two master levels left

[steady ember]

is one of them the world spear master level?

because good luck, that one is hard

[spice jungle]

yes lmao, mars core and world spear

[steady ember]

mars core is tough but not too bad

world spear is very difficult

[fringe torrent]

Having almost everything done but still at Prestige 0 is honestly an accomplishment in itself

I wonder what the lowest level possible in the game is while beating every campaign

[steady ember]

you can prestige?

I'm level 78 lol

I have 100 hours and played every campaign on nightmare

[austere bronze]

I'm prestige 0 and have 700+ hours🤫

[strange gale]

20. 13 from base game, 3 from tag1, 4 from tag2

[fringe torrent]

I'm at like 100 and my biggest accomplishment is TAG 2 on NM, 250 hours in

[steady ember]

first time?

[fringe torrent]

Thanks

First time beating it on NM? Yeah

[steady ember]

I'd say TAG 1 NM is defintely harder

[austere bronze]

Literally no idea how I'm only level 189

[steady ember]

looks like I first beat TAG2 on NM in 2021

I don't know if that was my first playthrough but its the only other save besides my recent one

I think my first play through of tag1 was uv?

[austere bronze]

Att level 250 you prestige

[steady ember]

Ohhhhh

[austere bronze]

You can prestige 48 times

[steady ember]

I bet playing battle mode is the quickest way to level up

[austere bronze]

Would take 800 hours to do if you're a very good speedrunner

Just to put into perspective

[steady ember]

Never been into grinding

[austere bronze]

Yea, caring about your level is kinda stupid

[steady ember]

Eh some people like number go up

[fallen heart]

wait you're saying max level in 800 hrs speedrunning? where u got that from?

[austere bronze]

I am blaming everything on this message #doom-eternal message

[spring panther]

i find the kaiser campaign mod's changes to the sentinel hammer to be very balanced

[fallen heart]

it took me around 4000 hours to hit all red stars 250(max) majority of it was base game UN attempts and Nightmare playthrus for practice

[austere bronze]

That's 8 weak points destroyed/GKs needed, right?

[spring panther]

4 weakpoints or 4 blood punches with at least 1 kill involved in it

[austere bronze]

Oh wow, alright

[austere bronze]

I still really don't like how the hammer fundamentally works, but it might be balanced yeah

It's yet another get out of jail free card+free damage+free ammo

[spring panther]

sentinel hammer stun times are also reduced in kaiser iirc

[austere bronze]

Shouldn't even be a stun

But that's nice to hear

[spring panther]

i believe its around 2 or 3 seconds long

[austere bronze]

Isn't that normal stun time?

[spring panther]

normal stun time is about 5 seconds

not entirely sure though

[austere bronze]

No way it's that long

That's about 3% of the entire encounter's length in stun time from just using it once

[steady ember]

wish you could play every level in classic mode where you start with a shotgun

[cloud harness]

Is there anyway to get the classic sounds for the guns?

[fringe torrent]

Sure, but you'll need Deluxe

Settings -> Audio -> Scroll down, enable Classic Sounds or whatever it's labeled as

[cloud harness]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[young mango]

I was running off really generous assumptions

[lost ocean]

favorite doom eternal ost song? personally mine is meathook

[austere bronze]

Maybe cultist base, idk

[austere bronze]

Sorry fo throwing you under the bus Tammie😭

[young mango]

Don’t worry I saved my ass there, the original message says “which is extremely unrealistic”

[violet zealot]

Cultist Base or SGN

[hollow granite]

I freaking hate the blue spirit demon

Especially when it gets into the heavy hitter demons . Smfh

[austere bronze]

It makes some demons way too tanky

But I like the extra speed they get

[hollow granite]

Forreal

[royal arch]

except marauders

possessed marauders are a nightmare to deal with

[austere bronze]

Not really, you just have to dash backwards

But they are way too buggy...

[sweet valve]

Hey i‘ve got a question im currently doing the plat trophy for eternal and i dont know if private matches count towards the progress does anyone know more abt that?

[magic citrus]

so on trophys for the battle mode there is nothing about with cant do in prived
i got the play as 5 demons ( battle mode trophy ) in a normal match so if u dont want to try it for nothing play the normal online matches it that works 100 %
but normaly it works on prived too because they dosent sad that it dosent work

[magic citrus]

i hope i helped u

[sweet valve]

Ok thank u sm

[magic citrus]

np 👍

[azure oriole]

?

[frank drum]

hardes boss in the game ngl

[azure oriole]

Huh

She’s one of the easiest

[steady ember]

good job!

[safe prism]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[visual steeple]

true the marauder is the hardest boss in doom 2016

just a tip use the unmakyr from doom 1993 to beat him