doom-eternal

[serene stone]

I predicted your prediction of my prediction

[dry yacht]

That’s it, putting a dog collar on you

[serene stone]

That'd just cause ... Ultra Violence

[fringe torrent]

No comment

[dry yacht]

Like that conehead thing

I don’t know how it is called

[austere bronze]

i thought you were getting all kinky for a second

[austere bronze]

when the doom ultra violences

[dry yacht]

Ok it’s literally just called dog cone

[dry yacht]

I’m never freaky in this server

All my freakness is stuck in 1 place

[fringe torrent]

Me too, I was like D:

[austere bronze]

as you can see Ross, I and AnomeQ hold you in very high regard

[dry yacht]

I don’t think I deserve that

[fringe torrent]

Factual information, fact checked by the tick my cat had

[austere bronze]

as you can see, I was being sarcastic

[dry yacht]

D:

[austere bronze]

you're impossible to please

[dry yacht]

Yeh.

[serene stone]

I'm the real life equivalent of the Marauder

[austere bronze]

fact checked and founded by M1

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/4RO-qItuhQM?si=56rFmWv5OiQadci7

Peak has arrived to DOOM Eternal modding

[austere bronze]

I actually tried brawler mode X

but then I thought "if I now am gonna torture myself, better to go 100%"

so I straight up removed the chaingun, rocket launcher, flame belch and frag grenade

and only used savagery

[young mango]

under the Mayo if beating a dead horse was a job: 💰🤑

[tame topaz]

Do you get style points for beating it with certain weapons?

[young mango]

I do not agree with somebody with as little mechanical understanding as Mayo making a ruleset to restrict oneself, especially when it’s more or less a derivative of how he plays rather than an actual counteraction towards an unbalanced arsenal

[austere bronze]

i feel like you need a certain level of understanding of this game to be allowed to make videos on how it works

and Mayo just does not have that understanding

the Mayo videos effects can still be felt today...

[azure oriole]

I would honestly prefer doing a no upgrades run rather than brawler mode

[young mango]

a majority of the doom eternal community is novices giving advice to other novices, it’s like a perpetual loop of bad players telling new players how to become bad players

[austere bronze]

man, this is unfortunately so true

[plucky cove]

Hello, I wanted to play doom eternal battlemode and I have seen some videos but I realized that in many of these they warned me about Bethesta's account and when I reviewed it I noticed that the email is invalid and now I am afraid of playing and losing progress, maybe someone Do you know how to change it?

[sour temple]

Doom Eternal is the very definition of **All Killer, No Filler 😎 **

[regal walrus]

Isn't that the guy that made some shitty ultrakill takes or something?

[austere bronze]

It is

And the only thing he got righr about Eternal is that it's a good game

[azure oriole]

but a bad Doom game

[regal walrus]

☠️

[broken glen]

in need of genuine help, i may have lost access to all deluxe content due to making a typo when creating a bethesda account and linking it to my steam account

[left solstice]

Does anyone know how to reduce the input lag on Xbox? I wish they would let you turn off vsync and/or triple buffering

[sour temple]

MIghty Doom

[serene stone]

Unironically? 🤔

[lusty viper]

Does anyone know how to unlock all the golden weapons?

[young mango]

golden combat shotgun is from doing all SGN ML challenges
golden BFG is acquired by completing all of TAG2’s escalation encounters
Every other gold weapon is given to you by basically just completing TAG2 on nightmare

[azure oriole]

Gold slayer is the easiest to get

And also the ugliest

[lusty viper]

Ok, thank you

[lusty viper]

Obviously

[grand crystal]

I didnt think I'd be dying so many times in HMP 😭

[sage axle]

Cringey you win!

[fathom plank]

Hi

[empty hull]

Sup @fathom plank

[fathom plank]

I’m fine

And you??

[empty hull]

Good, glad to hear a fellow demon slayer is well

[craggy geode]

anyone wanna do battlemode steam achievements with me?

[tacit monolith]

What did you guys think of the new bethesda pack?

[azure oriole]

I liked it

had some cool stuff

I beat my first Slayer's Gate in the Super Gore Nest

Was difficult but kinda average for how Eternal feels

[chrome tendon]

Nice bro!

[manic summit]

just beat tag 2

i didnt know about the hammer stun being way longer until phase 4 😭

[eternal halo]

What new Bethesda pack

[gritty crag]

hello again bitches

[trail dew]

What’s up y’all

[gritty crag]

nothing much, just doing my own doom song that would probably do in the dark ages

[turbid heron]

I'm new to the server whats up

[azure oriole]

Anyone smarter than me - are the Doom Eternal mods on Nexusmods compatible with the official Mod Preview? Can I like download mods from there and load them through the beta?

[dry yacht]

i dont think so

nexus mods actually change your doom eternal code

like you have to manually edit it im pretty sure

you gonna to wait for some mods to show up on the official thing

[azure oriole]

Ah man that sucks.

[azure oriole]

just finished doom eternal

now ancient gods left

[restive violet]

hey guys
what's the best place to kill enemies with soldier shields?

[azure oriole]

take them from the back

[restive violet]

not on their body

in campaign or dlc

[azure oriole]

idk

i didnt play dlc yet

[restive violet]

let me rephrase the question
what's the best map to kill other enemies via shield overload
carcass doesn't count

not at the start

more like towards the end

[spring panther]

flank them or do a risky shot at their arm

[spring panther]

concentrated groups

[restive violet]

are you trolling?

[spring panther]

why would i be trolling

[restive violet]

you aren't addressing my question

[mighty quail]

Anyone still play vs mode on the switch?

[restive violet]

killing enemies by overloading shields

how do these two relate?

[spring panther]

i didn't see the map part

[restive violet]

💀

[fringe torrent]

As Cringey said, do Cultist Base

[magic reef]

Is anyone else having problems launching doom eternal after the new update?

[spring panther]

not me

[mighty quail]

On what?

[magic reef]

Steam

[mighty quail]

Forced close and retry?

[magic reef]

It wont even say that the game is running, I click play and it just immediately closes.

[spring panther]

verify game files

[magic reef]

I always forget to do that. Thank you.

[spring panther]

having no problems on xbox so verify files

[restive violet]

my bad and thank you

[oak crypt]

Man....I thought there was something missing in DE.....I miss the door opening animations that 2016 has lol

There wasn't a lot in 2016 but for some reason they are rememberable to me xD

[azure oriole]

Nobody told me there would be Cyberdemons Tyrants in Arc Complex's Slayer Gate

[gray dove]

yooo

how is the modding platform?

[oak crypt]

Honestly it feels like you could use idStudio to make an entirely different game if you really wanted with all the stuff they give you access to. Probably can't I'm sure but it really feels like it's an actual engine instead of an editor rofl

[serene stone]

It's official. Humanity has peaked:
https://youtu.be/EGgATcQce8k?si=RUCvhwP4s4BiSxiS

[valid wedge]

already got peaches castle loaded up and ready to convert or import lol

[gray dove]

I'm not much of a modder, I wanted to know if it's usable to play mods already or if it's still too beta-ish

I've had the idea to mod the game once I finally fully ultra Nightmare the game and I only need to UN the world's spear ML

[oak crypt]

Ah didn't know what you meant based on the wording of that question sorry lol

[gray dove]

It's ok, it's my bad c:
That was still an intriguing answer, if I were to be interested in making mods

Besides, it may mean also that I can just create my UI, which is something I sometimes like to make

[oak crypt]

You can definitely change the UI if you wanted. It's not a watered down editor that's for sure.

[valid wedge]

There's so much room for activities.

[oak crypt]

Yeah this is about as supportive as you can get for mods and I love it. Don't see any other company topping idSoftware anytime soon for that rofl

[worn terrace]

so who is going to try an dmake mods with idstudio? I need to at least try

[oak crypt]

I'd love to see DOOM Eternal in PC-98 artwork graphics rofl

[flint warren]

TAG 2 FINAL BOSS IS SO TRASH HOW DID THAT GO THROUGH TESTING 🥲

[young mango]

Time crunch

they were in a rush and ended up with a final product that wasn’t as good as intended

[eternal halo]

Tag 2 was crunching? I thought just the base game was under unnecessarily soon deadlines

[young mango]

yeah but they felt the need to release both DLC’s under the span of one year because of the whole “year one pass” shtick, as well as COVID having limited things

[eternal halo]

Oh right. Tag was in COVID time. Makes sense now

[astral jetty]

Hello everyone, im having an issue i was wondering if anyone knew how to help in here. My game is displaying a black screen every time I boot up the game, nothing I have tried has fixed this, any ideas? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050926248077054083/1272405968705028126/image.png?ex=66bb84a7&is=66ba3327&hm=ea7c16d878768de604a7b06e0dc690ea76e19744b5928779faed2fbfdbf573f2&

[storm eagle]

Maybe just uninstall and reinstall

[astral jetty]

I did that, didnt help

[midnight silo]

You can't have idstudio open at the same time as launching the game normally

[astral jetty]

I, dont think I have that open? I dont see it when the game is running im not shure what you mean

[midnight silo]

I just know you'll get that when you launch idstudio then also launch the game normally.

So if you haven't installed idstudio or haven't downloaded it , this is not your issue.

[astral jetty]

oh is id studio the official mod support stuff? I tried messing around with it but I dont have it installed right now

[astral jetty]

(insert many swears here) it was because of hdr, i fixed it

[oak crypt]

Sounds like HDR is a hit or miss

[spring panther]

you can make custom levels with the editor so thats entirely possible

we could also in theory port d2016 maps to eternal

[oak crypt]

I'm gonna have to learn how to create texture type stuff lmao. Cause the PC-98 artwork I'm looking into is VERY VERY small pixel style that gives it a lot of detail. If I can figure that out then it will be a super fun thing to work on

[spring panther]

if i even get a pc that can utilize eternal i would do idstudio stuff

[astral jetty]

so far yes

[young mango]

3 gold prestige? how many hours do you have?

[astral jetty]

1784.4

[young mango]

wow my estimate was actually pretty close, i estimated at about 15 minutes per level and got 1,692.5 hours

[copper fox]

Xd

[worn terrace]

says idstudio is in my library ... bu tit isin't

oh wait im dumb, its under tools.

[rich ferry]

Hola

[worn terrace]

dumb question but how do i warp to any level?

[worn terrace]

okay ill just find the first hell knight manuell and reload that save

but now i cant use photo mode ...

poh i need ot beat fukcing level first ... ugh

[lusty viper]

Does anyone know why in DE the DLSS lowers the FPS instead of raising them? It only happens in DE with no other game

[azure oriole]

Haven't seen a Marauder yet but am excited to cause they're so cool ❤️

[scenic cedar]

Depends on the option you have selected

Happened to me

[tame topaz]

We'd probably be able to port over the raw map geo. Textures and assets would all then have to be manually imported or indexed.

[lusty viper]

What do you mean?

[scenic cedar]

Under dlss, there are options, like screen resolution, quality over speed, etc

Not on my pc rn so can't help much

[wanton robin]

Ever gonna be console mod support?

Ping me with a response cus I have notifications off

[tame topaz]

'I know they'll ping me one day. I just know it'.

[flint sparrow]

Anyone able to fix the not being able to login into the mods launcher?

Do we have to wait for a next update?

[scenic cedar]

Wdym you can't log in?

What's the issue, exactly?

[grand crystal]

Does anyone else fee like everything is overdesigned in this game? I mean it looks cool yeah but it feels comedical at times

[scenic cedar]

Not really

[storm eagle]

It's a video game idk

[scenic cedar]

It's what makes the game so atractive, being able to kill an enemy in various ways

It's everything great packed together

[tiny gust]

Guys, if i log in in my bethesda.net acc in doom + doom II will i get skins for it?

[scenic cedar]

Some FPS rely on hide-n-shot mechanics whereas doom is like "get straight into the fight, use every weapon and every combination as you need"

[scenic cedar]

Try it

[tiny gust]

I tried and still dont have skins

[scenic cedar]

Idk then

Are they supposed to give you skins?

[tiny gust]

If you log in doom 1/doom 2 before yes, after doom + doom 2 release idk

[scenic cedar]

Then i don't know, tbh

[austere bronze]

yup, Eternal's combat is very fun

I would have like... 10 hours on the game if it was the same boring hiding n peeking combat

[scenic cedar]

I can't have more than 45mins of combat bc i think I broke a bone in my arm and it hurts me after a while

Didn't happen to me befote

Also I fell off the stairs

[austere bronze]

ouch, that sucks

[austere bronze]

what do you mean by "overdesigned"?

[grand crystal]

needless stuff added just to make it cool

[austere bronze]

I do not agree with that

[serene stone]

Maybe not everything, but a lot of it can be quite "busy" and "noisy" if you're referring to aesthetics.

[austere bronze]

I think some of the stuff should've been implemented a bit better, but there aren't too many things in the game

[serene stone]

Maykr structures come to mind

[grand crystal]

I actually like most of the stuff, its just whenever I stop and think about it is kinda silly

[austere bronze]

what do you have in mind?

[serene stone]

Yeah that's true. Though classic DOOM is also kinda like that, atleast for demon designs in some ways

[grand crystal]

whenever I see his left arm

[serene stone]

Classic DOOM Revenants are extremely goofy looking lol

[austere bronze]

dude what, you have a problem with seeing his arm when punching?

[grand crystal]

Like I said I have no problem with it, it all just looks unneccesary

[fringe torrent]

I think they mean the blade

[serene stone]

Ngl. I'm not a fan of the blade lol. Same for the spikey gauntlets.

[grand crystal]

https://youtu.be/CGq8Ee2gOe4?t=297

just pause for a second and look at all the detail lol

[austere bronze]

I like actually seeing his arm when he punches, imagine pressing punch and the enemy just takes damage

[austere bronze]

this might just be me, but I like games that have detail

[serene stone]

Think he means the way the gauntlet looks and the blade

[serene stone]

Wait...

[grand crystal]

If only I could post images here I could explain wha I mean

[austere bronze]

post it somewhere else and copy the link then paste it here

[grand crystal]

its just the link I posted above

[scenic cedar]

I always think about this part of the gameplay reveal. Never made it to the final game, when the big door opens

[austere bronze]

what?
the message link for your image... is a youtube video?

[grand crystal]

pause it

[serene stone]

The helmet and visor detail in first person was so cool. Sad it was cut. Could have been a toggle option if it became distracting

[grand crystal]

the one thing I would never understand is why would they cut out the intro for the archville

[fringe torrent]

They probably wanted to move him to appear later in the game and just didn't see a way to repurpose that intro

[grand crystal]

I get that but they could have easily placed archville in some other location and shown an intro for it

[serene stone]

Taras Nabad Archvile caught people off guard, they thought it was a funny troll.

An intro would ruin the surprise I think

[austere bronze]

yup

[grand crystal]

Yeah that came to mind when I was thinking why they removed it

[fringe torrent]

Did you not see what I said at the end

[serene stone]

Though they ended up putting a tutorial pop up for the Archvile in later updates anyway

[grand crystal]

They dont need to repurpose the same intro, its easy to take the archvile model, animation and camera work to a different location

[scenic cedar]

Yeah, that looked cool af

[grand crystal]

They have their reasons I suppose

[fringe torrent]

Yeah, but what I was saying is they probably didn't find a location suitable for it in Taras Nabad

[grand crystal]

true

[scenic cedar]

They could've put it in the master level

[serene stone]

An intro cutscene specifically for a Master Level sounds odd and counter intuitive

[scenic cedar]

It woul've been cool

[fringe torrent]

I'm pretty confident it was just a shot for the trailer, I doubt you'd have to fight him by himself after an entire encounter, plus in the trailer the Slayer already had the Crucible

[scenic cedar]

Fuck it. Somebody make it a mod

[austere bronze]

an archvile by himself would be way too easy

[scenic cedar]

Mod Eternal 🗣️

[silk wagon]

Does anyone know the exact time the first dash (when you press shift) takes to cooldown?

[austere bronze]

it's half a second for each dash iirc

with the upgraded dashes

why did you want to know anyways?

[silk wagon]

ty

for a gmod add-on i have installed

dashing mod (i can modify cooldowns)

[austere bronze]

alright

[azure oriole]

I'm so confused, didn't steam allow workshop for doom eternal?

But when I look up workshop for doom nothing comes up

[fringe torrent]

No

[azure oriole]

Huh? But it said that on IGN

[fringe torrent]

IGN is wrong, it's via an app id made

[olive flame]

Yo I AGREE WITH YOUR USERNAME

I love shawarma

[bronze moss]

Hey, it the first time i'm talking on this server but I wanted to know if the doom marine indigo skin and doom marine brown skin obtained by logging on to doom 1 and 2 respectively are still available, knowing that they have now been transformed into a single game following Quakecon 2024.

[azure oriole]

Wait, r u Muslim?

Not because you eat shawarma, but ur other app names are haseeb

yo anyone got a link to the Spicy Demons discord, I cannot join it or find a link at all. Just send it to me in like a DM or something idc :3

@olive flame yo bro, r u Muslim?

[fringe torrent]

#battlemode

[azure oriole]

thnx

[olive flame]

Yes

[olive flame]

Why what happened

[azure oriole]

Oh nothing 🙂 it's just that I'm Muslim aswell!

Salam alaikum bro

[olive flame]

Wa alaikum asalam

[void remnant]

Are the mods gon be on console

[sleek acorn]

Guys I just got the industrial espionage skin in eternal and man they were cooking when they made it

[violet zealot]

Hey, how can you set the weapon wheel delay to 0 if that's possible? I'm assuming it's something done in the console. Tried setting it to 0 in the settings and the lowest I could go was 70 or so.

[young mango]

weapon_OpenWeaponWheelDelay ( insert desired number of ms here )

but may i inquire, what do you need such a low delay for?

[violet zealot]

hated the 70MS delay I had on console, it kinda annoys me

got PC mainly for it lol

but yeah, thanks

[young mango]

but now that you have key binds for individual weapons, the weapon wheel for intended usage should become obsolete

[violet zealot]

fair

[violet zealot]

Also, do you need something like meathook for this to work? Getting a unknown command error when using it.

[young mango]

Meath00k does unlock the console yes, but seeing as you are probably on steam, that might not be necessary, with the recent update if you get the mod preview beta and launch a modded session ( doesn’t need mods to function ), it unlocks the console as well, and has a bit more quality of life than meath00k

[violet zealot]

would it clear my save and/or disable achievements when running the mod preview?

[young mango]

I have no clue about achievements but the mod stuff does function on different saves

but I guess for simplicity sake meath00k is good, note it hasn’t been updated for current patch yet, so it will give you an error message, but you can just ignore it, it functions identically as it would before

[deft turret]

I find it funny that they kept the plasma rifle intro on even tho it doesn't make sense but the archville intro got the axe

[vestal mantle]

I need help on decisions

What Doom game should I get

?

[azure oriole]

All of them

They’re all good

[quasi acorn]

i know im late but choose 2016 first then eternal then get the other 4 as you please

[astral inlet]

Just beat doom for the second time

Learned so much from my first play

I play on controller 🥲

But I use the PlayStation edge so it gives me an edge with the mapable buttons in the back.

I have them to jump and boost

[spring panther]

i forget about the extra dualshock 5 controller buttons every now and then

i'd use them to bind other weapons tbh

[azure oriole]

I have seen like 5 messages on the Spicy Demon discord server about Slayer's Club awards

[azure oriole]

Ay, peeps! I did it, I got Eternal for PC. Now to learn how to get good on mouse and keys!

And maybe, quite possibly, by some chance, get mods too.

[azure oriole]

Welcom to the modding scene

[burnt moss]

Unpopular opinion: UV is more fun than NM

[azure oriole]

Ehhh

For me nm or un is more fun because it’s harder but you feel more satisfied in the end

[burnt moss]

That’s fair. I get to hold on to extra lives in UV. BUT the more unforgiving it is, the closer the stress is to that of real life. And that’s a negative thing, the opposite of fun.

[azure oriole]

They told me I might have hypertension so I thought it was because I was doing a un run atm which was successful

[burnt moss]

Goodness, are you a kid or an adult?

[young mango]

you’re entitled to your own opinion, and I feel like UV was probably the difficultly the game was balanced around, but it doesn’t change the fact that the ai is really predictable, restackings busted, and various quality of life features under the hood. But all in all what you find funner is subjective

[azure oriole]

Underage

I spent like 6 months attempting un run after un run

Until attempt 61 was successful

[burnt moss]

Well I’m currently below my peak skill level, but even when I was doing everything on NM for the first and second time I didn’t love how harsh NM is

[burnt moss]

Sounds unhealthy. But good job

[young mango]

honestly i think difficulties with higher damage scaling should’ve existed as opposed to the existence of the same thing as nightmare but permadeath

[azure oriole]

I took breaks inbetween missions

[azure oriole]

Like saving and exiting to take a break for a few hours or maybe days

I remember being devastated when I got to Kalibas and failed to a pain elemental cornering me. I legitimately had a breakdown for a good hour before trying again.

[burnt moss]

Permadeath isn’t fun for me. I think it’s a good final thing to try with a game that’s become boring. Like I did permadeath on Hollowknight

[burnt moss]

Like how are you supposed to feel optimism and happiness when you know that a slight mistake will wipe the last hour or 20 of hard work?

[young mango]

20 hours?

[burnt moss]

Cautious play could extend a run

[young mango]

I’d say for a person capable of beating ultra nightmare, a campaign clear should only take around 6 hours

[azure oriole]

After my breakdown I just “pick myself up, dust myself off, and start all over again”

[strange gale]

self-imposed restrictions make for the best challenge runs imo, there's no clear equivalent to the souls games' sl1 run here but something like that is peak. going into ng+7 with the exact same build isn't very interesting to me

[young mango]

doubling the run length through caution is something I think is a bit absurd

[burnt moss]

If there were extra lives on UN I might actually try it

[azure oriole]

I think of it as the game testing me to make sure I really know what I’m doing

[burnt moss]

Tests are the least fun part of any learning experience tho. That’s kinda what I mean

[austere bronze]

Once you start really learning the game, I don't think Nightmare is that harsh

[azure oriole]

It actually became too easy for me

[burnt moss]

Well my aim is trash so

[azure oriole]

Until the world spear and Taras nabad levels dropped

[azure oriole]

So is mine 💀

[burnt moss]

Mls you mean?

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[burnt moss]

You on controller?

[azure oriole]

Nah pc

My hand tends to shake a lot when I’m under pressure

[austere bronze]

Some changes in how the game worked would be nice IMO

[burnt moss]

Yeah master levels can melt my Nintendo switch

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah

[young mango]

yeah true, I’ve never been a huge restricter, I just don’t use superweapons and call it a day, I don’t really have much to add to this as a result

[azure oriole]

I used to play on switch

[burnt moss]

Me too. Got an Xbox S specifically for doom

[azure oriole]

That’s how I beat eternal on nightmare for the first time

[burnt moss]

I’m currently doing a no plasma run of TAG

[azure oriole]

If it’s allowed I can send a clip of me beating an ml on un if you want

[burnt moss]

Not intentionally. But I unmapped plasma for easier quickswapping

[azure oriole]

That showcases my trash aim

[austere bronze]

Doesn't really changw that much

[young mango]

sure

[austere bronze]

It's allowed

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/NzouIW-mHXk?feature=shared

YouTube screwed up the quality for some reason

Xbox game bar captured it at 85 fps and yt put it at 720p48

[young mango]

yeah man wanted to say something but didn’t want to be rude

[azure oriole]

You can say it

[young mango]

oh that was it, just that the videos quality sucks

[azure oriole]

Oh ok

Yeah ur right it does suck; when I get the time I’ll reupload it after reexporting it to 1080 60

[burnt moss]

I think your aim is better. I have a hard time keeping aim during meathook for instance

[young mango]

bulldozer at 2:18 for some reason

[azure oriole]

I also forgot to turn off classic sounds lmao

They’re so silly

[burnt moss]

Yeah it does because of spirits

[burnt moss]

I was gonna say that haha

[azure oriole]

??

[young mango]

funny weapon tech thing

[azure oriole]

Is that another tech I am unaware about

Oh

I just learned how to punch cancel rockets after that video

Since my mic was also off you could probably imagine me saying “oh fk” when I take a big hit

[austere bronze]

You can kill them last

[burnt moss]

Still makes it harder

[azure oriole]

If you eliminate the other demons they’ll just give up and die iirc

[austere bronze]

Depends on who you ask
But I do respect you for doing a challenge run

[burnt moss]

Haha it’s not even a challenge run

For a very long time I’ve had plasma unmapped so that I can have only 4 weapons on the wheel

[ocean pelican]

Stupid question but wanted to ask, when I started up eternal on pc it recognized my slayers club account, I have both Ancient Gods on ps4, would I still have to re buy them on steam again?

[burnt moss]

I would think so

Slayer account activity doesn’t replace buying the game for your platform

[ocean pelican]

I see

I don’t mind re buying them, it’s just it would save me $14

[burnt moss]

Unless PlayStation has a way to download the games on ps+ or something. Xbox has that

[ocean pelican]

Might check that since I have basic ps+

Also does eternal have any pc benchmark test for ray tracing and other graphical things?

[burnt moss]

Idk I’m console only

[azure oriole]

Do we know how long will last the id studio beta ?

[charred gale]

dlcs for doom eternal ended by saying "Regrettably, we must inform you that Doom is unfortunately not eternal."

[compact temple]

Does anyone else get reset to level 1 when launching the game through the mod launcher?

Huh interesting

[azure oriole]

I thought I got decent at the game

[flint flame]

Good stuff

[keen saffron]

hi

[olive siren]

hi i'm new here

i don't know how to start doom eternal on my playstation 5

bc i've got a problem

and I joined this server in search for someone that can help me

[fringe torrent]

If you're for DOOM then go to #classic-doom or #doom-2016

[olive siren]

no for doom eternal

sorry i made a mistake

can someone help me please

[lunar schooner]

when can one be considered a good doom eternal player?

[azure oriole]

Idfk

I'm not good enough to know

[slow sigil]

when you're pretty skilled at the game

there's not really like a tasklist

[lunar schooner]

well duh

[dense shale]

Tbh i don't think you have to do X or Y thing to be considered "good"

You should be able to tell wether or not you're improving by yourself

[azure oriole]

I'd say in my very humble opinion that if you learn combat to where you aren't dying much then I guess?

[dense shale]

Constantly challenging yourself is one way to get better, but if you wanna check just how much better you've gotten then replay some easier levels you used to have trouble with

[dense shale]

Not a bad take actually, once dying becomes a rare occurance rather than a constant one then i'd say you've gotten a lot better

[azure oriole]

Me playing on UN for my second playthrough (I'm not even done with ARC for my first one)

[dense shale]

Obviously i could sit here and say that you REALLY get good once you beat the game on ultra-nightmare but it's definitely not an objective way to look at your skill level

I remember i died about 5-6 times when trying to do the base campaign on UN

[azure oriole]

God now I wanna do 2016 UN again

[dense shale]

It's been like 2-3 years since i've played eternal actively but i think arc complex is relatively okay for the most part, but i HATED super gore nest

[azure oriole]

SGN is cool

[dense shale]

cramped spaces, and alot of damaging floors

[dense shale]

Sure is, but it's definitely the one i had most trouble with

[dense shale]

I never attempted a UN run on 2016, i wanna change that soon enough tho

[azure oriole]

I honestly think that level made me a lot better

[dense shale]

I can't even count how many times i replayed final sin, i always did that as a warmup

to get comfortable with quickswitching and then i did whatever challenge run i was trying to go for

most notably TAG1 UN, that was a NIGHTMARE

i may have died 5-6 times on the base campaign but i died over 20 times on TAG1

[azure oriole]

if you die too many times do you get locked out of UN?

[dense shale]

You don't

[azure oriole]

It's locked for me on 2016

[lunar schooner]

id say ur "good" if youve beaten nightmare on TAG 1

[azure oriole]

Says I need to survive "Into the Fire" (Kadingir)

[dense shale]

idk if i'm remembering this correctly, but i'm PRETTY SURE you need to beat the game on nightmare to unlock UN?

[azure oriole]

I did

[dense shale]

then i have no idea lol

[azure oriole]

I have the Plat Trophy

[dense shale]

Honestly yeah, i could see that

TAG1 is way harder than the base campaign and it stays relatively consistent with that difficulty throughout all the 3 levels

[lunar schooner]

bro i bought this dlcs a few days ago

WOW its hard

[azure oriole]

Okay I don't have to complete Kadignir again

Time for suffering

[austere bronze]

There is an incredible amount of skill levels in this game,so it's hard tp determine what's considered good

If you consider yourself good, that's great

[lunar schooner]

fr. this is one of the few games where getting better is something you truly feel as it happens. perfect FPS game

[austere bronze]

But it's always important to keep the dunning-kruger effect in mind xD

[austere bronze]

Yeah, if you ever doubt yourself, juat replay some old level

[lunar schooner]

bro the only game i consider myself truly good at is geometry dash lmao

[dense shale]

It's important to not compare yourself to the best of the best, and that goes for anything not just eternal

[lunar schooner]

doom hunter base and arc complex never let me down

[dense shale]

like sure maybe you can't remember a combo for every demon RIGHT NOW but with time you might

If you WANT to get better then you WILL get better and it'll happen faster than you may think

[lunar schooner]

youre also in the gd server, do u play gd?

[austere bronze]

I like to compare myself just to see what level I can reach

[dense shale]

Not that much anymore, i only hop on like once a year to play a new hardest and then i dip out for another year

Like yeah i used to play actively a few years back but not so much anymore

[lunar schooner]

what is your hardest?

[dense shale]

Bloodbath or prismatic haze, i'd say bloodbath was a little harder tho

[lunar schooner]

oh nice. i have 96 on acu 😭

[austere bronze]

Just wanting it and doing what's necessary to get better will get you far

[dense shale]

prismatic was around 15K attempts and bloodbath around 10k? but that's mostly because i was already VERY familiar with the level

[dense shale]

Yup exactly

[dense shale]

pretty sure the worst fail i had on acu was 92%

the robot part near the end

[austere bronze]

I'll see gow much I'll actually play Eternal now that's school has started

[lunar schooner]

pain

[dense shale]

i GREASED eternal when i got it back in 2020

Apart from geometry dash (technically), eternal is my most played singleplayer game

[austere bronze]

I think I played it for about 200 hours during summer break

[dense shale]

and there's a REAAALLY good reason for that

[azure oriole]

which is because doom is goated

[dense shale]

the gameplay loop is just way too fun i'm sorry

[austere bronze]

Which would be a bit more than 3 hours a day for 2 months

[azure oriole]

nah true

[dense shale]

i'm pretty sure doom unironically made me type faster on my keyboard

[austere bronze]

Truth

[dense shale]

That's INSANE. I have 192 hours on eternal and that was spaced out through novemeber 2020 till the end of 2021

i don't remember playing eternal that much in 2022

[austere bronze]

I'm guessing I'll have 750 hours on Eternal once I've played for a year

[young mango]

I’ve averaged 1.54 hours a day since I bought the game, which is absurd because it only averages out like that because I’ll do an absurd amount of playing then sometimes barely play it

[austere bronze]

Which would be about 2 hours a day for a year, not too shabby

[dense shale]

I did literally everything i possibly could in eternal by the time i stopped playing it, but with eternal mod tools being a thing now i'm sure the longevity of the game will increase by a SUBSTANTIAL amount

[young mango]

when I was at the peak of my TAG2 grinding I was able to spend like 6 hours a day on the game

[austere bronze]

Holy guacamole

[dense shale]

i remember going into TAG2 UN expecting myself to have a very painful experience but it was a complete ride in the park

[austere bronze]

There's always something more you can do ;)

[dense shale]

i did die once in that part with 2 mancubi and like 9 million sentinel hammer pick-ups

i MAY HAVE overestimated my abilities in that very moment.

[young mango]

yeah man, it really is a ride in the park, so much so that I have a world record in it 😛

[austere bronze]

Once you've done MLs on UN, do it restricted

Or learn speedrunning

[dense shale]

yeah speedrunning is something i've thought of

[azure oriole]

sentinel hammers?

[dense shale]

what category did you do

[young mango]

any% restricted

[austere bronze]

Weapon from tag2

[azure oriole]

ah

Oh wait I took charged burst instead of explosive shot...

Well I might be screwed

[austere bronze]

What

[azure oriole]

2016 UN

The Shotgun mods

[austere bronze]

Oh

[young mango]

well at least you’re screwed on the first level

[azure oriole]

I have died here like 30 times

that first wave is hard

[austere bronze]

I would've given up a long time ago lol

[azure oriole]

Why?

I have determination.

[austere bronze]

Because I would've gotten bored and not be motivated

[azure oriole]

I'm not you. While I admit I take breaks, I will do it.

[austere bronze]

If I die 3 timea on some UN attempt I'm done with it until at least like 1 month later

[austere bronze]

Yeah, not saying you are me, just that I would have given up a long time ago
So respect to you for continuing

[azure oriole]

Thank you.

I will continue ripping and tearing until it is done.

[young mango]

man if I had the type of drive I had like 5-6 months ago I’d be unstoppable

[azure oriole]

Nah just beat it :3

Honestly it isn't too terrible

[young mango]

nice

didn’t really doubt you, but I did want to provide moral support by reassuring you that if you were screwed, at least it was early enough on to where the impact was minimized

[azure oriole]

Impact compensation

[austere bronze]

Was that the height of your speedrunning grind?

I think I'm going to heavily decrease how much I'm playing now that school has started

[young mango]

yeah

[austere bronze]

I think I'd get diminishing returns even if I continued to play 3 hours every day

Just because I'm so tired after school, it drains my energy like crazy for some reason

And I'm usually not even paying attention

[grand crystal]

Do you guys use your pinky finger for dashing? Is there a better bind? I'm not good at using my pinky finger for games

[austere bronze]

I use my pinky for dashing, but only for dashing

there is no best bind, do whatever you think feels good

[grand crystal]

[eternal halo]

Ring

[grand crystal]

Ring is only used for Q and A tho

[eternal halo]

I also use it for dash

[odd finch]

i just completed my 2nd nightmare savefile yipee

and its exactly 1 year apart from the first one (besides the hour)

[low marlin]

whats your favorite glory kill

[clear estuary]

i have just one question. how do I easily copy all my config from my normal profile to the mod profile?

[dense shale]

one of them for sure has to be the imp back glory kill

the one where you slice him vertically in half

[low marlin]

o that one is wild

prowler back is hella ugly too

[clear estuary]

breaking the whiplashes arm and shoving the bone through its head

[low marlin]

doom music be like

https://tenor.com/view/spikedmauler-spiked-mauler-doom-isabelle-gif-24452302

[ocean pelican]

Wait does eternal have an actual dash or is it a sprint?

[austere bronze]

Eternal has a dashing ability

[ocean pelican]

YAY!!

Also wanted to ask why the reviews for TAG2 are soo bad when TAG1s are decent

[grand crystal]

Some annoying possessed enemies and a straight up bad boss

Also the hammer

[azure oriole]

And too easy

[azure oriole]

Ty

[azure oriole]

I’m sure you are

[azure oriole]

When you can beat the dlc or base game on nm or un

Otherwise you decide

[ocean pelican]

Isn’t that the optional weapon to the crucible?

[azure oriole]

I only have 220 hours on this game which I don’t think is a lot compared to some people here who might have way more

[austere bronze]

I wouldn't say so

I've heard everything from that you need to be an absolute master at the game to do UN to if you're a 3/10 player you can clear UN easily

[azure oriole]

What

I still feel like a rookie at times

[austere bronze]

Most players do

[azure oriole]

Fr?

[austere bronze]

Yea

I very often feel like I gotta improve on many fronts

[dense shale]

The DLC released and it was WAY easier in terms of difficulty than the base campaign and TAG1, and people REALLY weren't big fans of that

is the DLC by itself good? me personally i'd say yeah, sure the final bossfight is a little lackluster imo.. but it's still really fun to play through, i wouldn't say it was a bad addition whatsoever

[azure oriole]

I feel like I gotta improve on stability under pressure

[austere bronze]

More content is almost never bad, but in the case of tag2, it definitely could've been way better

Also literally every new enemy introduced was extremely mid or bad

[dense shale]

would've LOVED for all the TAG2 levels to get a master level

Man i'd kill for a complete master level campaign in eternal

[austere bronze]

The ones I wanted a ML for the most was reclaimed earth tbh

[dense shale]

TRUTH

[austere bronze]

World spear is probably in last

[azure oriole]

The armored baron has a pretty cool armor design tho

[austere bronze]

True, but he's not a good enemy

[dense shale]

I was just about to mention that

Idk how i feel about armored barons, they just kinda feel annoying to fight?

Like i have to wait aaaaall that time for him to flash green to remove his armor and then i may not even kill him in 1 cycle, so i gotta do it twice sometimes

[austere bronze]

We're gonna take a fun enemy, but before you can actually engage with this fun enemy you have to wait for him to do a specific attack!

[dense shale]

it's not necessarily BAD, i just don't enjoy fighting them

[azure oriole]

Or you can use the plasma rifle to slowly break down his armor

[dense shale]

Marauder is fun to fight because you get to DANCE WITH HIM WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE ATTACK

with the armored baron, you just sit there. waiting.

[austere bronze]

Same problem as with the marauder

You have other ways to kill them, but they're slow and ammo inefficient

[austere bronze]

It's the same with the marauder tho...

[azure oriole]

If im fighting two marauders + a lot of fodder i just usually sticky bomb their feet with frag grenades while i try to isolate one of them

[dense shale]

The thing is tho, marauders don't let you breathe and they constantly engage you, and force you to move differently

armored barons just do the same thing as a regular baron except there's a window in which you just can't damage them

[austere bronze]

No, I ignore marauders until it's the only enemy left

[azure oriole]

I usually prioritize them first

[dense shale]

tbh it depends on the scenario, but when i get a decent opening i do some damage

let him be for a minute while i kill other stuff

and then wait for another opportunity

[austere bronze]

You just proved he lets you breathe lol

[dense shale]

if there's not that many demons around then i'll just 1 cycle him

[dense shale]

Yeah i may have slightly shot myself in the foot with that one,,,

BUUUT the point i was trying to make is that he at least TRIES to make you acknowledge his existence

[austere bronze]

Too bad he doesn't succeed

He should've
A) been used more sparingly
B) been an interesting enemy

[dense shale]

i feel like the amount of marauders throughout the campaign and both DLCs is pretty fine, never had that big of an issue with it

they became a problem when i was playing the unbalanced randomizer mod, when you get like 2 of them WHILST BEING FORCED TO FIGHT OTHER STUFF, yeah,,,, that's not exactly too fun

[austere bronze]

Because while the marauder is a bad enemy, he apparently serves as a reality check for some players, so some encounters should keep him

And have like 2-3 master levels with double marauders and 1 double marauder encounter in one of the campaigns

[austere bronze]

Precisely why I avoid them until the end

[dense shale]

It does bring up a valid point tho, is the enemy well designed if you don't want to fight with him?

There's 2 sides to this i'd say, one where you could argue that this is simple target prioritization OR he's just genuinely such a nuisance to fight whilst dealing with other things that it just becomes tedious

[austere bronze]

No it's not well deisgned because of that, the only reason why I avoid him is because I have to

If I fight him while other demons are alive they will damage me

[dense shale]

Tbh i'd say that's valid, it's a total pain in the ass to fight marauders with the rest of the arena trying to kill you

[dense shale]

And some people could argue that you're just mean to be more careful and take it as yet another thing you have to dodge

Idk, i feel like the gray area for this is too big, i wouldn't say the marauder is NECESSARILY BAD or GOOD it's just kinda, ehh... depends on the situation

[austere bronze]

Literally impossible to dodge stuff while killing the marauder because you can't see what's attacking you

[dense shale]

Meant it the other way around, like kill all the other demons while dodging the marauder attacks

but yeah you're right, if you just attack the marauder you'll be tunnel visioned

which in turn leads to unnecessary damage WHICH in turn leads to you probably dying

[austere bronze]

Problem is that he has like 3 attacks

1 green eye flash and 1 short range attack (not important if you're fighting other stuff)
This leaves us with 1 entire attack that can damage you which is an incredibly slow axe throw

Give him some more attacks, less predictability and faster attacks

[dense shale]

But then you can make the arguement that it's not THAT difficult to dodge, which would just make him a target with low priority until the end and honestly from my experience i don't remember the axe throws being that bad like you say, but it was definitely something to look out for

[dense shale]

Actually now that you say that, that MIGHT work if you tweak some stuff

Unless you're using some fancy combo, you will more than likely 3 cycle a marauder

now how about giving him those stronger attacks but maybe making him 2 cycle-able

obviously this is just an idea on paper that i just threw on the table but MAYBE it could work?

[austere bronze]

The axe throw is very slow and easy to dodge

[austere bronze]

2 cycle*

[dense shale]

if i remember correctly if you just do the ssg + ballista + ssg combo it's a 3 cycle

and that's what most people stick to when they first fight a marauder

[austere bronze]

Pb+ssg for 2 cycle

[dense shale]

does that really 2 cycle?

OH PB + SSG

[austere bronze]

Which is by no means a fsncy combo and super easy to pull off

[dense shale]

yeah that's not a combo i tried

mb then

[dense shale]

Yeah defo, that does change the game up a little bit then

then we could just give him faster attacks and see what comes from that

cuz it's really not a bad suggestion

[austere bronze]

He also needs more attacks to make him an interesting enemy

Faster+more attacks could work well

[dense shale]

Yup, exactly that

i'd just start with increasing his speed by about 20-30% with new attacks and see how that pans out

[austere bronze]

Increasing his movement speed by that much might not sit well with most players

Since that's the possessed marauders speed

[dense shale]

is it really?

whoops then, might've overshot that just a TAD BIT

[austere bronze]

A possessrd marauders movement speed is increased by 25%

[dense shale]

okay then i'd do like 7-10%

[austere bronze]

Along with all his attacks

[dense shale]

god i wanna test that out now

[austere bronze]

You can do it with a console command

[dense shale]

not sure what all you can do with the eternal mod tools as of yet but if i can play around with that then i'll try it out

[austere bronze]

But it's for all enemies

[dense shale]

what's the command btw?

[azure oriole]

god fucking damn it

[austere bronze]

I've been playing with 1,5x damage to the player, 1,5x enemy speed and 0,8x damage to enemies

[azure oriole]

died on the last stage of the dark lord

[ocean pelican]

Haven’t played it but Immora looks fun

[austere bronze]

ai_haste_overriderate (x number)

[dense shale]

Thanks a lot

[austere bronze]

Np dude

Playing with faster enemies is really fun IMO

[dense shale]

I remember seeing some guy make a video about a mod that makes the game much faster

it was a few years back and that looked REALLY interesting

never tried it out tho, could be a good idea now since i'm getting back into the franchise after about 2 years

[austere bronze]

Then you're probably thinking about timescale, which increases the speed of everything

[dense shale]

pretty sure that the HP values were the same, but enemy speed along with your quickswitching speed was faster

i'd have to look it up to see what the values are like

[austere bronze]

Yes, the timescale command just imcreases the speed of everything

But it caps your FPS to 60

[rough valve]

Hello, I have a question, does the new doom eternal mod system work well for you? Why does it let me download mods but not install them?

[valid wedge]

did you drag them over to active mods?

[rough valve]

Yes

But when I change from Pajín, example of library to play mods, they appear in the undownloaded folder, I even tried to see if I could uninstall the mods that I already have installed and they work

But exactly the same thing happens, they appear directly in the newly installed part

[azure oriole]

Starting UN I'm in for pain

[rough valve]

I sent you the video privately, sorry it's in Spanish

[compact temple]

is the modded launcher like completely bugged rn? i cant sign in and it says my lvl is 1

it also reset all of my settings

[rough valve]

That's normal

It's like playing on another account over there

[ocean pelican]

Anyway I can pull up my fps active in eternal or 2016? Gonna have to do it through this since as far as I’ve been seeing the games don’t have a benchmark test

Gonna load up first mission and just run around and see if it stays consistent

Then see if I need to turn anything down since I have most of eternal at ultra or high with no raytracing

Nevermind, found a fps counter I can toggle, that’s good enough for me

[sturdy sapphire]

Alguém br para me ajudar na conquista de matar com as 8 armas no online? (Ps)

[rugged heart]

Plying Eternal for the 1st time
I’m loving the campaign dude it’s about 30% done

[left quest]

That's only if you play with mods

It has a custom save kinda thing for it so you don't break anything

[left quest]

Go to the directorie where they are installed and delete them

[hard cobalt]

does anyone know if/when the encounter with the big tentacle thing in the ancient gods 2 ends? I’ve been killing the same two types of basic demon for over half an hour now

[crimson python]

A weapon that would be good to use is the Ballista, super shotgun, and the chain gun.

[idle cove]

Need help with a tech issue. #community-support

[azure oriole]

I’ve heard some people calling the big tentacle mojo but idk where they got that name from

[regal walrus]

I'm abovethemayo and doom eternal sucks cuz it isn't like ultrakill

[azure oriole]

Why... why would it be like a game that came out after it?

[burnt moss]

It doesn’t

I’ve been fighting it for a month now

[compact temple]

Does anyone know a consistent way to put pinkies in glory kill? I’m trying to do UN 100#

every time I try hitting their back with bullets slowly they just die regardless

[azure oriole]

There is no way to put them into glory kill consistently even if you do have a perfect setup with the perfect amount of damage it’ll still kill them so best to chip damage with heavy cannon base shots

Same goes for the other demons too the only difference they don’t have a 90% damage reduction from the front like pinkies do

[compact temple]

Damn that sucks

I’m on sgn rn so ig I’ll just pray for the best

[azure oriole]

Damn do all Slayer Gates play The Only Thing They Fear is You or is that ARC specific

[young mango]

arc specific

[burnt moss]

Don’t hit them in the back then

Guys I forgot the Holt slayer gate has a possessed marauder. I hate my life

[compact temple]

yeah i figured

4 rockets to the face does it for me

[azure oriole]

Can't wait to see Marauders

They won't fuck me up right?

...right?

[burnt moss]

They absolutely will lol

[azure oriole]

I beat two Slayer Gates it won't be that hard

(Overconfidence)

[burnt moss]

He’s the first enemy with iframes (basically)

[azure oriole]

the dark lord is actually so insufferable ive been stuck on this dude for 2 hours

[polar marten]

who up trynna kill the dark lord

[sour temple]

who up trynna doom their eternal

who up trynna Doom their Dark Ages

[full wagon]

shield bash is nice

[azure oriole]

Incredible how effective it is on possessed pinkies as well

[polar marten]

oh bruh, i would loved to learn about that earlier

[azure oriole]

i fucking hate the pinkies

[young mango]

a more in depth response to this is that the damage pinkies receive on their tails isn’t consistent, well it is but not in the way you’d expect, basically anything below this red line deals more damage than the part of the tail above it, this makes it far simpler to gauge your damage, ( i.e: 3 precision bolts above the line or 1 precision bolt above the line and 1 below the line can get the job done fairly easily ) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1273531833266737233/image.png?ex=66bef472&is=66bda2f2&hm=79079ded83eebf3d622b00d9553006dcbf5213b0e1b04459a4cecadb161183d9&

or if you’re feeling especially confident, you could take advantage of the sticky bombs crit mechanic, precision bolt, sticky bomb, boom instant glory kill

[azure oriole]

would two precision bolts and a blast from the reg shotgun do some good? prolly doesn’t now i say that but it’d be good to know

[young mango]

if all of it is aimed above the red line I drew, then yes

[azure oriole]

gotcha

my way if handling the pinkies is by Slidddddddeeeeee to the left whip out the super shotgun and Boom

also im super new to DE i just bought it not too long ago, but i watched a ton of people play it, The Ancient Gods included

[young mango]

nice

[polar marten]

W

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1273534489133318237/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_47.mp4?ex=66bef6eb&is=66bda56b&hm=09611b781a05c04221d187b39cab1d6250bfc577db782dd9afd336079c1c22cb&

[azure oriole]

made my way yo to the 3 last missions and toke a break from it for the time being cuz i be messing up my buttons sm LMAO

[azure oriole]

why couldn’t they just named the pinkie demon piggy if it sounds like one lmao

[young mango]

the silliest part about pinkies is that name was made up by the fans and just adopted in later titles

[azure oriole]

the first iteration of them basically made them look like Dooms take of a thwomp with the way their mouth and face look

points to the tv the angry rock mfs from Mario

[young mango]

so what’s your thoughts so far? Im assuming you’ve also seen what the skill ceilings like

[azure oriole]

brother i was NOT ready for playing it myself

i had got on it just as i finished beating 2016

i’d only go back to 2016 just to get all the upgrades and toys and codex and etc. but DE is gonna be my main until i get around coping TDA

[young mango]

nice

[azure oriole]

i loved how they made the barons look even more menacing compared to 2016

[young mango]

it was definitely a good design choice especially with the introduction of the visual mechanic of destructible enemies

[azure oriole]

Some mf at id: how do we make the baron scarier?

This mf: Turn him into fucking wolverine

[azure oriole]

The new visual mechanic would look a bit weird on the 2016 barons since their skin is red.

also i feel like they missed out on making their insides green as a node to how the original barons fling green argent

probs would look a bit goofy but eh i wouldn’t mind it

[serene stone]

Well that's new

[austere bronze]

Almost no one knows what the skill ceiling kinda looks like, because all the really good people don't usually get thousands of views

Sad world we live in

[young mango]

yes it’s quite disappointing to see how much of the doom eternal fanbase thinks zero master and such are the peak skill level in this game, most of the times it’s just people being unaware that better people exist because of the disproportionate popularity levels, but I’ve seen some wicked fanboying, some people will do mental gymnastics even to try to keep the idea that zero master is on top afloat

[azure oriole]

MureicanEagle has 475k views on his no boss damage vid and that mf is insane and is nearing 4k on yt

[young mango]

like there’s a very annoying minority of people who could see somebody way better than zero master but are such a big fan that they’ll do anything to try to eliminate such a notion

[sour temple]

the skill ceiling is comparable to halo 2. doom eternal has a tone of glitches and weapon combos. halo 2 also has a tone of glitches and coincidentally weapon combos as well.

[young mango]

huh?

sorry that wasn’t a very apt comparison and felt a bit shoehorned

i feel like there are far more games than just doom eternal and halo 2 that share those 2 very broad traits

[austere bronze]

Murican got 1 million views in total, ZeroMaster got videos that alone have over 2 million views

[strange gale]

dmc 1 is just like halo 2 because it has guns and animation canceling

[austere bronze]

Idk if you remember but there was a guy in here a while back claiming that ZeroMaster was thr best gamer to ever live because he can learn games so quick

[young mango]

yeah man i heard the guy

[azure oriole]

thats wild considering Zer has 77.2k subs on yt

[safe prism]

Ah the autisms strong in the community

[young mango]

that’s very true, but what in specific prompted that

[safe prism]

I couldn’t tell u, as a fellow autist the game can get extremely overwhelming for me sometimes so idk how they do it

[azure oriole]

Welcome to the club

[strange gale]

merozaster 🤩

[azure oriole]

mood

i get corned more than i need too playing it lmao

[safe prism]

I can’t play above nightmare difficulty cuz I’d get frustrated with all the shit that happens and then having to start again

[austere bronze]

Sure, it's good, but nowhere near what peak skill looks like

He's obviously not a bad Eternal player

[azure oriole]

In Ultra-Violence we trust

[austere bronze]

I usually only UN something when I'm confident I can do it first try

[young mango]

never called the guy bad, but he’s not the best, Infact there’s nobody I could definitively point to and say is the best

[strange gale]

there's like 2 hard levels in the entire gauntlet, taras and world spear

the rest of the run is just about endurance cause it'll take a WHILE no matter what

[young mango]

and if you come into taras with a game plan it’s a cakewalk

[strange gale]

routing 🤩

[austere bronze]

Yeah, there are multiple people all at the top who are either good at different things or roughly at the samr skill level

And then you have the random kid with unlimited internet access and 7000 hours on the game

[azure oriole]

i need to reconfig my binds so that QSing is a lot more smoother

[young mango]

never been one of a master level speedrunner but world spear is laughably easy to skip the entirety of in comparison to the other levels on that roster

i honestly think if somebody more experienced than myself took a swing at it, beating it under 2 minutes is a possibility

[keen saffron]

anyone wants to do battlemode duos?

steam windows pc? idk what are requirements

(im on steam)

one of my first times on battlemode lol

[serene stone]

Are you trying to tell me that Doom Eternal is the Super Smash Bros Melee of Halo 3?

Happy feet. Wombo combo!

[serene stone]

Tbh Zero Master is much better at Classic Doom than he is at modern DOOM, and he's not even the best Classic DOOM player.

[fringe torrent]

But he is pretty dang close, at least in my eyes

He's a legend

[serene stone]

For the classics?

[fringe torrent]

Yeah

[serene stone]

Yeah he's probably one of the best Classic DOOM players.

I think that reputation carries over to how people view him in Eternal making people think he's "one of the best Eternal players" as well

[fringe torrent]

His E1M8 100% kills run was great

[flint warren]

ayo

I have just experienced SGN master level on nightmare

I think I have enough to beat it on UN but I want to ask if there is a consistent solution to the last arena

because the only one I've found is to dump all your crucible charges on archviles and bfg charges on the wave of like 4 tyrants

[flint warren]

it is so good btw

[vital relic]

hi guys, I decided to play with mods through the Doom launcher, but when playing with mods my progress was not transferred, or is this how it should be?

[fringe torrent]

Yes, it is how it should be

[vital relic]

oh, thanks

[young mango]

actually relevant question, what’s your framerate

[flint warren]

How does framerate affect it 🗿

I did not mean performance issues

[young mango]

the same way framerate effects everything in this game

even at higher framerates you’re just softening them up in that scenario, and probably not as much as you’d hope

[flint warren]

OH LMFAO I FORGOT THAT BFG CALCULATES IT'S DAMAGE VERY STUPID

oh then it would be around 140 I believe?

[young mango]

even on 250, getting tendrils from 2 separate BFGs in that arena to actually manage to kill a tyrant in that arena is highly inconsistent

[young mango]

so I feel like your method should be the other way around, you could spawncamp the archviles that spawn in the center of the arena, freeze them, kill them with BFG tendrils, and have the BFG itself fire in the direction of the third archvile, you’d need to be very accurate to actually land the hit on him but you should at the very least substantially softened him up with the splash damage

[young mango]

and considering you said crucible charges, like plural, i think it’d be very easy to just crucible the first two tyrants, take out the third one normally, and proceed with this tactic

[flint warren]

so archviles are not worty

aight, got it

[keen saffron]

is there a vc i can stream my campaign in?

[fringe torrent]

Nope

[young mango]

no, unfortunately the vcs were removed around a year ago because things got too out of hand

[keen saffron]

oh noes

yeah they can be abit hard to moderate ig

[young mango]

This got me thinking, I know beating SGN ml un isn’t a cakewalk for most players but I never envisioned the final arena as a massive difficulty spike, and I decided to make a graph visualizing what I think the difficulty spike looks like

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1273576098092810240/IMG_1631.png?ex=66bf1dab&is=66bdcc2b&hm=b1cc14673c811252ce95f1695d8f34cda8082c4425b2cc8ef24c3fb13966dd99&

just to clarify these aren’t out of 10 or anything these numbers are comparative

[keen saffron]

in your opinion whats the most annoying demon lol

[young mango]

cursed prowler, having an enemy that cripples you with a single hit, as well as dealing passive damage, and becoming functionally immortal until blood punched, along with not taking damage to the blood punch unless it’s a direct hit, also the fact that it has an intrusive change to the UI to display the fact that you have been cursed, along with distortion of audio cues, to me the enemy doesn’t even feel like it’s lazily designed, it’s more like the time crunch for TAG was bad enough to make them start having to spitball ideas and land on them unfortunately.

[keen saffron]

GODDAMN XD sounds like experience too lol

tbh for me the imps are just annoying

i hate most ranged damage guys XD

whiplash is annoying too

[sullen meteor]

tbh a lot of Eternal gets annoying once you stop playing, get out of the groove and then return later 😄

I get the sense that on nightmare some of the enemy AI is just a bit overtuned and fast even though I completed ultra nightmare when I was "good" at the game

and when it comes to the later released master levels I fail to see the intended audience

they are just way too hard, unfun and gimmicky, they were seemingly made for the 5 doomtubers and nobody else

I remember the World Spear master level having stuff like red laser beams that not only damage you but slow you down when they hit

and a lot of fog

like... why?

it's a bad time focusing on every single thing that's not great about the game

[glad osprey]

I mainly enjoy playing because of the challenge like I don’t love it when games are to easy

But you have a point with how it can be to difficult and what not

[sullen meteor]

yeah that's fine, I think that the main campaign, the basic master levels and TAG1 are balanced really well

[glad osprey]

Yeah

[sullen meteor]

TAG2 is weird (used to be too easy, now it's too easy with a few weird difficulty spikes)

and when it comes to Taras Nabad and World Spear master levels? couldn't even bother finishing them, they are just not fun

[glad osprey]

I’m actually still completing doom and haven’t beat it yet because I’m a new player

And I did this crazy thing right

So you know the second priests guardian?

And there is three of them

[fringe torrent]

Doom Hunters

[glad osprey]

I beat all three first try no deaths

Because my dad said if I do I have to go to bed

*if I die

So I beat all three of them first try but it’s not that much of an achievement because since it’s my first time playing I put the difficulty one hurt me plenty so it wasn’t that hard

[austere bronze]

I'd say that on nightmare demons are a bit too slow, with all the movement tools you have it's not hard to make demons seem extremely slow

[sullen meteor]

maybe but for example it never stops being annoying that in Eternal whenever you get close to a demon you get hit multiple times if you're not paying attention

like an imp doesn't just hit you once, you get hit a bunch simply because it got close, shield dudes somehow have autoshotguns or whatever, it's just weird how overtuned that stuff is

[austere bronze]

gets close to demon
doesn't pay attention
gets hit multiple times
complains about it

[sullen meteor]

after Doom 2016 id seemingly got a bit scared from having demons in the game that you can just you know, walk up to

[sullen meteor]

well as a normal human being who doesn't play games all the time yeah, I make mistakes and getting dramatically whopped for one is weird in a game that actually has damage scaling that is proportional to your HP

lot of HP? big damage. not that much HP? smaller amount of damage, there is nothing "hardcore" about that, it's just for drama's sake

[austere bronze]

Then if you don't have time to get good enough at the game,play on UV

[austere bronze]

Brink of death only applies between roughly 20 and 50 HP

And it has a cooldown

[sullen meteor]

instead I'd choose no damage scaling but enemies that hit in a way that doesn't look stupid, like presentation wise Eternal's monsters just look sped up

and if I get hit because oh god, I happen to momentarily suck, don't notice that something spawned right next to me and get hit I shouldn't lose so much HP that now I have to collect armor again

[fringe torrent]

The hard mode is supposed to be hard

[austere bronze]

No way🤯

[austere bronze]

You get back armor too easily

[fringe torrent]

I'm pretty sure it says you will need quick reflexes and to pay attention on NM; it's no Kaiser Campaign Marauder boss

[austere bronze]

If you took tons of damage, just light some fodders on fire

[sullen meteor]

and that's fine, what I'm saying is that it'a overtuned so you have to do stuff like flame demons all the time to have armor on the ground because you will get hit a ton anyway.

A cleaner design where a good player could achieve not getting hit once would be preferable.

once you get down the meta I'd say that nightmare is very manageable and downright easy... but it's annoying

[austere bronze]

Then you would have to take massive damage each hit

[fringe torrent]

Well Nightmare has been always kind of the BS difficulty, it's already piss-easy compared to literally any version of it on Eternal

I see your point but I don't think Nightmare is fair to complain about the difficulty of, that's why it exists

[sullen meteor]

I'm not complaining about the difficulty

I'm complaining about how it's designed

but Dark Ages seems to follow a completely different design so that's fine, I get the sense that they'll slow things down naturally

[fringe torrent]

Well that's fair enough then I suppose

[sullen meteor]

Eternal was a reaction to 2016's bad parts and chances are Dark Ages will be a reaction to Eternal's bad parts

[fringe torrent]

I'd just be glad it's not Classic DOOM, DOOM 3, or Quake Nightmare

[sullen meteor]

Quake's nightmare is fine

[fringe torrent]

Well, which Nightmare

[sullen meteor]

Doom 3's nightmare is fine too except for that annoying sound

[fringe torrent]

DOOM 3's Nightmare is NOT fine

[austere bronze]

Wait, you want no extra damage for nightmare but good players can get away with not being hit..?
That would just make Nightmare way easier

[fringe torrent]

As I said, design-wise I want Nightmare to be BS, not completely BS but still BS

I think the current one is fine, I'd make it even slightly harder if I could

I know M1 is about to pull up the 'restrictions' 🤓

[austere bronze]

Yea, I would say Nightmare is too easy if anything

[austere bronze]

Why lmao

[fringe torrent]

"Make the game harder by doing restrictions!"

How about you play with the first game's controls?

[sullen meteor]

or just have a brain aneurysm, that would make even hurt me plenty very difficult to complete

[fringe torrent]

@austere bronze try that restriction

[sullen meteor]

I don't think so, with the right balance of course. I guess that the devs just made Doomguy too powerful and instead of nerfing him they buffed every single enemy in the game. It's a solution but might not be the most elegant.

[fringe torrent]

Mesh every single Nightmare before into a single one

[sullen meteor]

because those weird sped up hit combos will never not annoy me 😄

[strange gale]

if you were to slow down the enemies, you'd also have to extensively nerf the player's movement (and probably damage output) to account for that

i think that'd be less fun and a net negative

[austere bronze]

Doomguy is too strong and demons are too weak

Nerf parts of the slayers arsenal, buff a small bit of it and buff enemies

[sullen meteor]

Dark Ages seems to counter that by upping the scale of the game

[strange gale]

tda has a parry system so i'm sure it'll have ridiculous setups of its own

it's a very different kind of game which is great

[dry yacht]

mfw i have to parry 20 demons at the same time

[sullen meteor]

Doom The Dark Souls Ages

[sullen meteor]

well the World Spear master level is still awful garbage even on UV 😄

[azure oriole]

is it fun

[sullen meteor]

I never found TAG2's gimmicks to be particularly fun so in a master level format it's pretty much Doom Eternal if it was bad

I just don't like how the whole thing is messing with my muscle memory

like if I can chainsaw shield guys

then why can't I chainsaw chaingunners? they look the same

the whole thing just feels lazy, rushed and badly made

which is kind of TAG2 in a nutshell

so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the master level is bad but oh boy

[azure oriole]

Chaingunners? Those are in Eternal?

[sullen meteor]

yes

I don't know how they are called in Eternal but they are chaingunners

[fringe torrent]

Describe their appearance @sullen meteor

[uneven quarry]

Hello! Just finishing up Eternal. By far the WORST Doom ever. So many inconsistencies in the control mechanics...i.e.....grabs somtimes don't work and failed trigger pulls. Also, why in the same battle do two of the same demon have different hit point counts? Just sad for such a great franchise. Looking forword to the new one.

[fringe torrent]

Wait, do you mean the Riot Soldiers?

[azure oriole]

You can't chainsaw Riot Soldiers because they're guarded by a divine angel shield that nothing penetrates lol.

[flint sparrow]

I open the launcher, click browse mods, it asks for credentials, I put them in and it says that something has gone wrong...

[uneven quarry]

Pulse rifle

[fringe torrent]

What?

[uneven quarry]

Sorry, thought yu were talking about the blue shields on the gunners. Pulse rifle kills the shields.

[fringe torrent]

Or a well-timed frag/rocket to go behind the shields

[uneven quarry]

Ah, yes! Forgot about that one!

[sullen meteor]

it's such an awfully weird thing and I'm very surprisied that it was never patched

[azure oriole]

I'm saying that not being able to chainsaw them makes sense. They're being guarded by a magic invulnerable shield.

[sullen meteor]

I know that all the movement / mechanics bugs weren't patched because the engine has shortcomings... but those stupid chaingunners should be chainsawable

[sullen meteor]

if that's a real lore reason then Doom Eternal has the dumbest lore in the franchise lol

like imagine writing that down as a writer 😄

[azure oriole]

How is it dumb that a chainsaw can't penetrate a shield that tanks rockets with no issue...?

[sullen meteor]

and in order to disable the shield of a shiled guy you have to overload them with energy weapons... or you can just chainsaw them

it doesn't have to make sense lore wise, I don't care about Doom lore and never did, it has to make sense mechanically as it should be consistent with the other shielded enemy's behavior

which you know, you can just chainsaw

even though it has a shield

[azure oriole]

Yeah but this is a different shield from the other shield lol. You can tell because they look completely different.

[sullen meteor]

yeah it's yellow and the dude's armor is red... completely different

[azure oriole]

That's like saying that Imps and Barons should work exactly the same because they have to have all the fireball-throwing enemies completely consistent.

[sullen meteor]

and they largely work the same, no?

[azure oriole]

No, not at all. They have completely different movement patterns, deal completely different damage, throw fireballs at different circumstances, and have different strategies to beat them.

[austere bronze]

hears that a shield is literally unbreakable
calls it stupid that you can't chainsaw this unbreakable shield

[sullen meteor]

anyway it's just one of those annoyances that should have been patched out I feel. like you can chainsaw them before they pull up the shield, you can chainsaw them when they are glory killable so just make that consistent, letting me chainsaw them wouldn't alter game balance at all

it would just let me have one less thing to pay attention to which is cool in a game that has a lot of mechanical bloat if we're honest

[sullen meteor]

okay then how it is more stupid to chainsaw the "unbreakable magic shield" than to chainsaw the energy shield that should clearly be unaffacted by a chainsaw?

[fringe torrent]

Because the energy shield is not indestructible

[sullen meteor]

like Doom Eternal fans you're not exactly the brightest bunch when it comes to accepting criticism but come on, lore reasons 😄

[azure oriole]

The former thing is literally said to you and the latter thing is just something you're assuming.

[austere bronze]

Yup lmao

[azure oriole]

Oh fuck off lmao, I've criticized a lot about Eternal. I just do not accept this specific criticism. Quit being pretentious and be serious.

[austere bronze]

I have critcism for the game, but it's not... whatever this is

[azure oriole]

I have a lot of problems with Eternal. This specifically is a silly criticism.

[sullen meteor]

I don't mean it like that, I mean that it's a very clearly spelled out to you because it's a hole they had to plug because not being able to do the thing that you'd expect to be able to do is strange

[fringe torrent]

Because being unable to chainsaw something indestructible makes way more sense than lighting something on fire for it to drop armor

[austere bronze]

Aw man, I gotta pay attention in a game that's all about strategy
The horror!

[sullen meteor]

yeah lol

[azure oriole]

I never expected to chainsaw Riot Soldiers because the game literally told me the shields were invulnerable and that the point of the enemies are that I have to attack them from the back.

[fringe torrent]

I don't think you got what I meant

This game is full of illogical things and you criticize one of the things that makes sense

[sullen meteor]

no, the point of the enemy is to use remote detonate for something 😄

[austere bronze]

Nope, I don't use remote det for anything

[fringe torrent]

Do you want the enemy to just work like every other one? That's so insanely boring

[azure oriole]

then why are you complaining about being unable to chainsaw them

[wooden aspen]

Yellow shield being one of the easiest thing to recognize because barely any other enemy uses yellow

[sullen meteor]

because it doesn't make sense? it's a small demon, should be chainsawable

anyway TAG2 aged badly and it sucks

[austere bronze]

Tag2 is pretty bad yeah

[violet zealot]

am I the only one that likes Tag2?

[azure oriole]

The shield is indestructible ofc you can't chainsaw them

[austere bronze]

The only good things about it is

1. More content
2. Master level babbyyy

[azure oriole]

I never used Remote Detonate, that's on you. A simple normal rocket to the ground behind them is good enough. Or a grenade.

[azure oriole]

Can't say cause I don't have either dlc

[fringe torrent]

I like it

It's admittedly not the best the game has to offer, but I like it

[austere bronze]

They are chainsawable, from the back

[wooden aspen]

anyway, sorry to interrupt this discussion, but does anyone else have this double click bug when you launch doom eternal in pc-mod-preview?

[lethal fjord]

No one got time for that just sticky the ground and move on

[azure oriole]

I enjoy it. The hate is overblown. I don't see any reason why it isn't as good as TAG1.

[austere bronze]

But from the front their shield protects them

[violet zealot]

Stone Imps:

[lethal fjord]

🤮

Dumb

[austere bronze]

It's mostly because of bad enemies and it being way easier than tag1

[azure oriole]

Stone Imps suck but I'll take them over Spirits.

[violet zealot]

fair, I hate Spirits even more

[fringe torrent]

Though now that I think of it, if you ask me to rank the 3 main campaigns I will just not give you any answer because I have no idea which one I like more than the other

[azure oriole]

TAG1 and TAG2 both have lame additions. Stone Imps and Cursed Prowlers suck but I hate Turrets and I don't like Spirits either.

[violet zealot]

Stone Imps are only annoying because you gotta constantly switch your mod

[violet zealot]

I genuinely hate the Turrets and Spirits

[wooden aspen]

I generally dislike mod-specific enemies

[austere bronze]

1. Normal campaign
2. Tag1
3. Tag2
   There you go

[fringe torrent]

I can consistently kill the Turrets in one cycle and I am proud of that