doom-eternal

[serene stone]

VEGA Core and Argent D'Nur>

Though I know you haven't gotten that far, so I'll shush lmao

[past sinew]

I also really just like the look of VEGA Core

Completely different from like 90% of the game's look

[frank drum]

no, is single player, you have battlemode for that

[serene stone]

It's straight up aesthetics of the Gods themselves.

It's one of the most beautiful things I've seen

[past sinew]

The elevator ride up to the core itself is so good all the red lighting on the shaft walls and such

[austere bronze]

literally every single DE ML>>

[frank drum]

you guys like the maykr drone huh? personally dont like him, 100% health and ammo is too much

[past sinew]

A big draw of DOOM Eternal to me is the varied environments

[serene stone]

Eh. I'm not too fond of those outside of the Taras Nabad Master Level and parts of World Spear

[austere bronze]

I like the ammo, not the health, the HP should've been like 50

[past sinew]

And the colors just pop

[frank drum]

really? i was pretty sure is 100% oth health too

[austere bronze]

WS ML is actually really good, MC is good, TN is pretty good, SGN is alright, CB is pretty alright and AC is meh

[azure forum]

It should have been only ammo and not health imo, or maybe 50/50 as stated above

[austere bronze]

it is 200 HP, but I would've liked if it was 50

[serene stone]

They're varied, but I find them a bit hit or miss, and they feel so disjointed from each other.

[frank drum]

yeah i misundertood

[austere bronze]

you probably need some HP to compensate for killing a maykr tho, otherwise it would've just been better to chainsaw

[frank drum]

i would prefer only health, i like using my chainsaw

[serene stone]

MC Master Level is okay. I like the parts before you blow up Mars.

But after you blow it up, it kinda falls apart and gets stale

[austere bronze]

the restacking system is already super good, you don't need 200 HP from drones

[fringe torrent]

I'm glad it drops ammo, if it dropped only health it'd just be a walking weak spot with nothing else to it

[serene stone]

I just realized AnomeQ is a Cacodemon now

[fringe torrent]

Always have been, actually

Not even joking, I used this PFP before the Praetor one

[austere bronze]

huh, I haven't mentioned the marauder today

I hate the marauder and love him

daily task complete

[austere bronze]

I do think I remember someone with this pfp, might've been you

[serene stone]

Task succeeded successfully

[frank drum]

you dont like to wait for his attack?

[fringe torrent]

I talked every once in a while in the server, I only got active when TDA got announced so likely not me

[serene stone]

I also used to use Caco pfps funny enough lol

[austere bronze]

the marauder is implemented poorly into the game

[serene stone]

Also buggy AF x4,567 (because I mentioned this thousands of times lol)

[austere bronze]

there are 2 solutions
a) make him interesting
b) have you facing him rarely

[strange gale]

there's a green flash tied to an entire two melee attacks but they're functionally identical. you respond in exactly the same way every time he shows up, it all blends together

[frank drum]

almost everything on this game is actually

[serene stone]

Indubitably so

[fringe torrent]

So it has always been that way with DOOM

[frank drum]

do you guys like the blood mkyr?

[azure oriole]

Suuuure

You don't chainsaw tò get a resources, absolutely not

[fringe torrent]

M1 knows his stuff

[past sinew]

No, but I can't say I hate 'em. They're just kind of there

[azure oriole]

You don't Need It in a consistent and thoughtful

[serene stone]

I'd say mostly just Eternal, atleast 4 mii

[austere bronze]

I never chainsaw to get potentially 20 health and a bit of armor if I would waste a flame belch on that

[fringe torrent]

Carmack is an ungodly programmer but he still did oopsie daisies sometimes

[azure oriole]

So ammos are not resources?

[serene stone]

Doom 3 was pretty buggy now that I think about it

[past sinew]

Everyone knows you just flame belch a group of fodder and then drop a grenade for armor, that's the move

[fringe torrent]

I funnily enough had the least issues with DOOM 3 out of all of them

[past sinew]

Doom 3 pretty famously ran bad on PC and id blamed graphics card manufacturers

[austere bronze]

yeah, ofc, that's the entire reason you chainsaw?

[past sinew]

It was a whole thing

[austere bronze]

idk where you are going with this

[fringe torrent]

To be fair DOOM 3 was like the future back then

[serene stone]

I never had much issues with 2016 or Classics.

But 3 had weird stuff sometimes

[azure oriole]

You said Is not a resource management mechanic, but Just like hp and armor you have tools to manage your resources efficiently

And chainsaw makes It trivial mechanically

[past sinew]

My opinion of DOOM 3 has only grown fonder over time and I was already pretty fond of it. Apart from the shotgun sucks and I cannot stand the Cacodemon redesign, it was criminal

[azure oriole]

But other that you Need time management too

[austere bronze]

I would barely call chainsawing basically whenever you feel like it "management"

[fringe torrent]

To be fair Caco was made to fit the horror style more, if you had the classic Caco in it'd look goofy

[serene stone]

I prefer DOOM 3 over any 1993 Episode other than E1.

[azure oriole]

Yo the shotgun sucks???? @fringe torrent you seeing this????

[fringe torrent]

Shotgun has bad spread, yeah, but getting close to enemies isn't really an issue

[fringe torrent]

Calm your ass, I'm already on it

[past sinew]

Too many eyes! Cacodemon should be cyclopean! With two buttholes!

[frank drum]

i find curious the easy you can kill him, but the goddam annoying he is when you dont

[past sinew]

Like God intended!

[serene stone]

Fr I wasn't big on E2 and E3 on 1993, and Thy Flesh Consumed was a mixed bag lol

[fringe torrent]

Thy Flesh isn't 1993 🤓

[past sinew]

Yeah they are always a priority when I see them but they go down so fast it ain't a big deal

[azure oriole]

Then play with no CD chainsaw or infinite CD chainsaw

Or keep playing with the gameplay loop breaking armor

[strange gale]

it might be a little difficult if weapons either did less damage or had less ammo, but DE in its current state is an unbalanced mess

[jovial coral]

Doom 3 good because: ...... that what I think doom 3 is amazing game

[visual steeple]

I think doom 3 is good because ..... and that's why!

[azure oriole]

Nah man It makes you piss in your pants

[jovial coral]

and also......

[azure oriole]

It's spooky 👻

[past sinew]

Doom 3 is good because someone is there to check in on your progress regularly

[twin cargo]

the armored baron is good because

[fringe torrent]

Which is what it intended, so it is good

[storm eagle]

lmfao

[fringe torrent]

Every time you piss yourself, Carmack smiles

[serene stone]

He's a kinky man. What can you say lol

[jovial coral]

yeah fnaf is spooky game

[austere bronze]

I'm still chocked how quickly enemies die, if you want to they can literally just disappear immediately

[serene stone]

I just saw Hmmmp typing

[fringe torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

[past sinew]

I got big spooked by Doom 3 back in the day

[visual steeple]

chat can we ban the penguin?

[azure oriole]

Peak game design

[twin cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067896775685447710/1265044941092950017/image.png?ex=66a20ea9&is=66a0bd29&hm=a60dea31687702c31bb409420d9f505ad3be25c6661e873f95091cafab8984d4&

[jovial coral]

I am more doom 3 shotgun player

[past sinew]

Armored baron is a good enemy for a game that puts in a mechanic that lets you stun

[serene stone]

Because T0yOta is peak

[visual steeple]

@austere bronze hi

[austere bronze]

@visual steeple hi

[twin cargo]

@signal perch omggg hump

[visual steeple]

@signal perch omg big fan oyff

[austere bronze]

definitely didn't see it when you said it the other time

[serene stone]

Thank you for reaching us how to be romophobia

[past sinew]

You make an excellent point

[fringe torrent]

Advertising, I see? Play Wolfenstein.

[visual steeple]

🤓

[austere bronze]

you think too highly of me if you expect me to read something on a paper

[austere bronze]

play the perfect tower or something

[fringe torrent]

Play Quake 4

[past sinew]

Don't do that you have so much to live for

[fringe torrent]

Quake 4 is peak gaming, man

[serene stone]

Play Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil.

[past sinew]

(I just started playing through Quake 4 again like... a couple days ago)

[fringe torrent]

Play all of the above, good ending

[past sinew]

Play DOOM Eternal

[serene stone]

Play none. Because Vidya sucks . All of them are objectively bad

[fringe torrent]

What about DOOM 2016?

[past sinew]

Sure knock yourself out

[serene stone]

Huh say what?

[jovial coral]

Doom 2016 was amazing game, but doom eternal is better

[fringe torrent]

Kiryu 2016 hater confirmed

[visual steeple]

No

[fringe torrent]

I like both equally

[serene stone]

Fair point

[visual steeple]

y u like both equally?

[jovial coral]

can you elaborate why ??

[fringe torrent]

good game

[visual steeple]

doom eternal is just bedder

[jovial coral]

that it ??

[visual steeple]

dat it???

[austere bronze]

eternal is like 2016 if it was fun, trust me because I got to the second mission in 2016 then quit

[visual steeple]

get off redit lil bro

[fringe torrent]

Comical, everybody claps

[austere bronze]

my takes on eternal are top notch

[twin cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067896775685447710/1265047788828491930/image.png?ex=66a21150&is=66a0bfd0&hm=53cb12b7c31acd01fa288b91f460e3be998229398507b4c1c3d4b1cc040520a2&

[jovial coral]

still waiting, can you explain why you like 2016 and eternal equally

[azure oriole]

True

I agree

[jovial coral]

literally I like 2016 and eternal because ........ And that why I love both game literally

[azure oriole]

....

[austere bronze]

I'd just like the game to have a bit more consequences and be more balanced, I get away with way too much stupid shit when I play

[visual steeple]

No

[austere bronze]

Even without flame belch, hammer, super weapons, equipment launcher and most mods

[frank drum]

you are talking about eternal here?

[sage axle]

Why does bro have so many reactions

[serene stone]

Marauder is good because..... that's why it's peak game design

[austere bronze]

Did that about 600 hours of playtime ago

[austere bronze]

Yes

[sage axle]

In more important news does anyone know if seek and destroy applies to the chainsaw?

[visual steeple]

Marauder is good because it enforces doom's game design

[storm eagle]

yes

[sage axle]

Thanks

[storm eagle]

np

[jovial coral]

no it because The Marauder is a Defensive Powerhouse

[sage axle]

See y’all in a few hours

[serene stone]

Are you talking about the game design from .... DOOM Eternal?

[visual steeple]

No we are talking about fortnite mb

[twin cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796889193615851551/1265417305907789845/image.png?ex=66a16f34&is=66a01db4&hm=dc89fece717721c9c83f4caad092cff91530cef5259213da34fb76f500289cd5&

[serene stone]

Fortnite.... from DOOM.... Eternal?

[peak sentinel]

hehe

[dry yacht]

Finally managed to have world spear ML not crash on me and beat it

[visual steeple]

If you continue to spout out falsehoods regarding the doom eternal's absolute peak game design you will be smited by the lord and savior daug phighingerher @serene stone

[storm eagle]

naice good job

[serene stone]

The intended way to play Eternal is to just use regular melees.... on the Icon of Sin

[frank drum]

yes

[dry yacht]

Because.

[serene stone]

.... it's peak.

[dry yacht]

Yo can we kill this hmmmp guy?

[buoyant hearth]

Are you trying to get yourself banned on purpose?

[dry yacht]

You the kinda guy who has it comin

[serene stone]

Don't kill him. He's just a penguin who's homophobic and based and based for being homophobic

[fringe torrent]

Amok based

[buoyant hearth]

Jesus fucking Christ man, that’s one hella downfall you’ve taken

[dry yacht]

Amok, kill this guy

[visual steeple]

is it possible to appeal bans?

i am new here

[buoyant hearth]

Sorry, but I have seen it all

Say goodbye.

[jovial coral]

The fact ross saying to kill someone that crazy

[shell fox]

Damn bro

[oak storm]

i doing the Ancient Gods Part 1 on Ultra Violence and hate with Passion the Spirts Demons on Blood Swamp

[fringe torrent]

Mark missed the hmmmp event

[visual steeple]

cool

Thank you so much for banning hmmmp

[frank drum]

based

[visual steeple]

man he was so insufferable

[jovial coral]

finally hmmmp is gone finally @buoyant hearth thank you so much

[fringe torrent]

So as I was saying, I like 2016 and Eternal equally...

[shell fox]

Bro's humor has not changed in 4 years he missed the canon event of maturing up and becoming a better person

[buoyant hearth]

Good fucking god

I watched his content before

[visual steeple]

fuck hmmmp all my homies hate hmmmp

[dry yacht]

Thank you amok, I will throw the body into the river

[frank drum]

is garbage

[buoyant hearth]

What body, man got incinerated already

[shell fox]

Isn't this dude like 20 now

[visual steeple]

like I can't imagine being transphobic and racist only occasionally

[fringe torrent]

Amok is based as usual

[jovial coral]

that crazy

[serene stone]

I think you liked all the DOOM games equally if I remember right

[fringe torrent]

Yes, unironically yes

[serene stone]

Why?!

Nah but fr, based

[fringe torrent]

They're all peak

It's too unfunny

[shell fox]

It's understandable that he was like this as a teen because of all the anti-sjw bullshit grown smelly men push on teenage boys but you're a grown ass man now bro

[visual steeple]

Disagree, doom eternal is better than 2016 and 3 is mid

[serene stone]

That is truthful

[azure oriole]

Don't interact with the alt troll account please guys

[fringe torrent]

Good tip

[shell fox]

2016 humor jumpscare! (Terrifying!)

[buoyant hearth]

Bans can be appealed only in case of compromised or hijacked accounts that have been restored. Manual bans for being a dogshit human being are never revoked

[visual steeple]

kk 👍

[shell fox]

Me when my humor is uh

Hating minorities

[visual steeple]

like it's so funny

[dry yacht]

“Scream and moan” woah dude kinky

[visual steeple]

agreeed

[fringe torrent]

"comedy"

[visual steeple]

sorry I deleted that cuz I thought someone might not catch on the sarcasm I need to put in tone indicatiors next time /srs

[buoyant hearth]

Of course you’d think it’s gold

[jovial coral]

That Crazy never like hmmmp videos

[buoyant hearth]

I think it’s fucking cringe from the looks alone

[jovial coral]

agree

[fringe torrent]

Least obvious alt account

[past sinew]

We're getting distracted from the main point here, which is that the shotgun in DOOM 3 belongs in prison

[buoyant hearth]

Because you’re so programmed it’s predictable

[fringe torrent]

For being too goated?

[past sinew]

For being a crime

[visual steeple]

smite him

[fringe torrent]

No, it's too goated

[buoyant hearth]

for the record, you’re getting banned anyway

bye

[past sinew]

The Super Shotgun in Resurrection of Evil is okay

[fringe torrent]

Don't

[visual steeple]

funny hmmmp is gone

[fringe torrent]

DOOM server moderation team never disappoints

[visual steeple]

finally

[past sinew]

Amok, I have only been here for like a couple hours but I love you

[shell fox]

Anyone got a gif of the bald british thumb screaming "FUCKING PRONOUNS" at starfield having they/them as an option?

[visual steeple]

No

[jovial coral]

ong

[buoyant hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/starfield-weird-british-guy-hasan-gif-14222299422436671778

[frank drum]

nuDoom shotgun kinda sucks too

[ivory bay]

precision bolt on controller is funny instant weakpoint targeting

[azure oriole]

Holy shit he's already back

[visual steeple]

You are a bum

[past sinew]

Now ban this man for his bad shotgun opinions

[ivory bay]

no i was am me not them who was are banned

[fringe torrent]

DOOM 3 shotgun is goated, whatever you guys say about it is wrong, unless it is positive, then it is very much based and correct, I am not biased at all

[jovial coral]

you mean the dark ages ???

[dry yacht]

Wow he is a thumb

[frank drum]

the last ones, the normal shoot is terrible

[shell fox]

Peak.

[past sinew]

The only explanation I will accept for the shotgun in DOOM 3 is that it is supposed to suck on account of it's a horror game

[serene stone]

https://tenor.com/view/pronouns-starfield-yapping-rage-spitting-facts-gif-11981307528457578648

[inner girder]

Guys, you know how the doomicorn skin has like sparkles and stuff coming out of the blade? Well it does not do that for the other variations of the skin and im wondering why

[serene stone]

Not the GIF, but the same guy

[jovial coral]

so you prefer the doom 2016 shotgun then ??

[fringe torrent]

It's still pretty good if you get close, which you do a lot (pressed enter too fast)

[dry yacht]

It.

[shell fox]

DOOM 3's shotgun works because most of the game is in closed hallways, even Hell is very CQB oriented.

[fringe torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[past sinew]

It works but I dont like how it feels

[fringe torrent]

I think it's very punchy

[frank drum]

i prefer eternal because stickies and full auto, but i talking about the normal shoot

[buoyant hearth]

Anyway - please be on the lookout for any people who seek to disrupt and troll other members on this server.

Hmmmp got banned, so he will try to sic his fanbase at you just to throw futile tantrums.

If you see anyone acting disruptive, send the screens and the user ID to @grim leaf

[past sinew]

Now the Plasma Rifle in DOOM 3, that is a thing that rules

[visual steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-gif-27205452

[jovial coral]

fair enough

[fringe torrent]

Every DOOM 3 weapon is awesome, as I said, not biased in the slightest!

[visual steeple]

AYE SIR!

[past sinew]

I was really pleased they kept the design going into 2016

(I do like the classic box design in Eternal too but you know, Doom 3 had its real good points and the plasma rifle was one of 'em)

[shell fox]

Honestly, they are.

[past sinew]

I really like the machine gun in 3 except for the tinny-ass sound effect that accompanies it

[shell fox]

The lamest one is the grenades for being so bouncy, very counterproductive choice by the UAC.

[ivory bay]

sick trickshots though

[fringe torrent]

The grenades are very good if you throw them right through, 3 of them take down a Commando and you get stocked on them

[visual steeple]

I will defeat you in the glazing competition

[dry yacht]

I’m zoning the hell out

[shell fox]

Imagine throwing a grenade at a wall hoping it bounces to the corner ur opps are holed in and it bounces back at you like a tennis ball

[ivory bay]

rq does chainswa scale with ammo cap or is it flat

[past sinew]

That's comedy

[fringe torrent]

Like that one vent in a bunker that just throws the grenade back because it's not an actual vent

[past sinew]

I use the grenades to get rid of soldiers and the like

[visual steeple]

relatively fixed

in sequential portions

[shell fox]

Same, but I cook them a bit bc of how bouncy they are

[ivory bay]

thx

[past sinew]

Yeah I try not to have them bounce too much because otherwise

They will just not do the job

[storm eagle]

I just really prefer 2016's melee...

[shell fox]

Shit they might get you instead

[ivory bay]

well eternal doesnt have it so

slayer pats them instead

[past sinew]

I do wish you could at least just melee away the lower-level fodder in Eternal

[jovial coral]

I don't understand, why people compare doom 3 to eternal both are different games, it's Doom games it not fifa

[serene stone]

Hi Zazman

[fringe torrent]

Getting a glory kill on a fodder enemy after punching it was satisfying in 2016

[past sinew]

Yeah

[shell fox]

Slayer had an 80% increase in musclemass in eternal but saw a 100% decrease in strength

This clearly shows he has been juicing

[visual steeple]

zaz is here???

[past sinew]

Or did the demons just get better at taking punches?

[storm eagle]

https://youtu.be/vopxN3L5yaw?si=jHblRElV8R8X_Yca

[dry yacht]

That is eternals largest mistake

I loved punching possessed

[shell fox]

https://tenor.com/view/synthol-fake-working-out-plastic-gif-18313567

[visual steeple]

No it was janky as fuck in 2016 and takes away resource management

[shell fox]

Doomguy in Eternal:

[unreal flare]

I'd say the lore is this game's biggest mistake

but you're right, I do miss the 2016 punch

[visual steeple]

blood punch is just better

[serene stone]

and he really prefers....

[ivory bay]

thats an actual ability

[past sinew]

Oh I understand the design reason for dropping it, I just liked it in 2016 a lot

[unreal flare]

why not have both?

[visual steeple]

why would you rather janky floaty melee?

[ivory bay]

you might as well as sent a link to the crucible and bfg

[shell fox]

A melee that can reliably push back an imp or gargoyle hardly takes away from it, ur never getting killed by a gargoyle anyways

[visual steeple]

why would you give player resources for free

[shell fox]

Blood punch less janky than 2016's melee

[ivory bay]

solid clip tho

[past sinew]

Is it that janky in 2016? I always just used it as a quick way to handle dudes and never really thought about it

[unreal flare]

Dude, it's just a punch. It's only free on low tier fodder lmao

[visual steeple]

you can already hard falter with melee and if you get caught in a situation where you get surrounded by fodder enemies it's ur fault lol

[visual steeple]

that brings in blood punch gain as well.

[shell fox]

I'm never getting surrounded by imps

[past sinew]

If I am getting surrounded by fodder it is because I want to set them on fire and then drop a grenade

[unreal flare]

Ok, and? How's that so bad?

[storm eagle]

@shell fox sorry I didn't reply last night, I fell asleep. Hope you're having a good day today💫

[visual steeple]

it takes away from positional awareness

[shell fox]

Eternal is easier than 2016 lol, you get surrounded by imps in 2016 more than you ever will in Eternal

[visual steeple]

because ur accessing it for free by just meleeing a fodder

[visual steeple]

I want to see ur gameplay pls

[strange gale]

hello hmmmp alt

[shell fox]

I haven't played in 2 years but eternal ain't as unbalanced as 2016

[unreal flare]

You already get shit for free in this game though

[shell fox]

You can get out of a sticky situation in 20 gazillion ways in eternal

[visual steeple]

that only applies for the first three levels where imp fireballs can one shot you

[unreal flare]

Everything about grenades and belch is free

[visual steeple]

no you can't

[buoyant hearth]

Leave this server and delete all of your social accounts

[austere bronze]

Literally

[oak storm]

is this a smol slayer?

[visual steeple]

just because it's on a cool down doesn't mean you are not punished for not using them properly

smite him

thank you @buoyant hearth

[shell fox]

2016 does not have flame belch, glorykills give less health and also have less invincibility frames, no icebomb, and no dash

[tacit aspen]

Just w i d e

[visual steeple]

?

[buoyant hearth]

This man has gone off the deep end

[austere bronze]

Literally no iframes after GKs compared to eternals 300 ms

But they are good

[buoyant hearth]

he needs psychiatric help if he’s gonna fume that much over a completely justified ban tbh

[dry yacht]

Oh that’s why I die sometimes

[visual steeple]

no it does not have 300 ms of iframes what are you talking about

[oak storm]

i think i only here i finished the normal Story using the Classic Skin + the Classic Sounds on UV

[twin cargo]

it doesn't

[visual steeple]

uv is just easy mode LOL /srs

[austere bronze]

Eternal has 300ms of iframes after GKs

[fringe torrent]

Who was it this time? I missed it

[visual steeple]

ban him

[storm eagle]

sup dad

[strange gale]

DE demonstrably has post-gk invincibility, which 2016 doesn't

2016 also doesn't have brink of death

[unreal flare]

A regular punch doesn't really get punished true but does that really matter?

It's the weakest move in the game!

[visual steeple]

post a clip regarding gk invincibility

[oak storm]

Nightmare or UN i not go do it because i suck at higher difficulty than UV

[visual steeple]

@buoyant hearth

[shell fox]

^

[buoyant hearth]

sigh

[austere bronze]

Can't even be bothered to get on eternal rn

[buoyant hearth]

obvious alt account is obvious

[oak storm]

i plan try do the Masters Levels after i finish the DLCs

[shell fox]

Hell, even UN is less balanced in 2016, one slip up in Argent Tower's parkour section and ur cooked

[austere bronze]

And then set up a clip? Not thanks

[visual steeple]

you have 100 ways to get out of sticky situations but you still have to use a resource

[austere bronze]

The shield on like a 6 second cooldown yea

[visual steeple]

elaborate

[shell fox]

Insanely busted chaingun shield that is also not available in 2016:

[jovial coral]

I recommend start with Arc Complex and cultist base

[dry yacht]

At least use an account that is not 2 nanoseconds old bruh

[austere bronze]

What is there to elaborate? If you're surrounded or on low HP you can just pull up the shield to save yourself, then after a very small period of time you can use it again

[storm eagle]

Nice, have you started TAG2?

[visual steeple]

2016 has like more sources of difficulty but it still is an easier game because nothing poses a challenge.

[unreal flare]

gee I wonder why

[buoyant hearth]

That means you’re banned. Goodbye

[strange gale]

bye yuji

[twin cargo]

Eternal doesn't actually have iframes after glory kills, I've died multiple times right after doing gk

[visual steeple]

@buoyant hearth smite him

[oak storm]

i still at the Blood Swap right Now on UV difficulty

[jovial coral]

most wholesome banned in history

[fringe torrent]

Every person with a green heart flower thing next to their name now is gonna be suspicious immediately

[visual steeple]

when you are doing that you are not changing the circumstances in front of you

[visual steeple]

u mean ez mode /j

[past sinew]

Oh man I love Blood Swamp

[visual steeple]

if you are talking about chaingun shield is busted than you can also say that rich get richer is also busted

[oak storm]

i prefer play UV than going into Nightmare or UN

[austere bronze]

I could move from 2 barons of hell in fron of me to 2 imps in front of me

[jovial coral]

you should try mine

[visual steeple]

those barons did not disappear you still have to face them

[austere bronze]

Not even interested in 2016

[past sinew]

I have done Nightmare once and I think the balance in UV just feels better to me

[shell fox]

Can't even take no fall damage in eternal from falling to the void, shield too busted 😭

[visual steeple]

nightmare is normal mode /srs

[buoyant hearth]

Imma go grab some snacks, lemme know if anything suspicious happens

[visual steeple]

AYE SIR

[jovial coral]

my blood swamp it peak design

[austere bronze]

Yea? But you can just W+M1 yourself into them, then pull up shield, move away, restack and do the same thing

[storm eagle]

Cool lmk what you think of it

[austere bronze]

The shield allows you to get away with a bunch of shit

[visual steeple]

i much rather in 2016 when there would be death volumes with ledge grabs

[visual steeple]

sure if you are gonna play in the most boring way possible i guess

you are spending time as a resource and your enjoyment of the game lol

[strange gale]

that's not relevant to what you're arguing about

[visual steeple]

what do you have to add to the conversation?

[austere bronze]

Getting in their faces is literally the fastest way to deal with any enemy tho

[visual steeple]

not to be pretentious btw

[strange gale]

i'm saying that's a non sequitur, whether or not something is fun has nothing to do with which game's easier

[visual steeple]

not true lol

[austere bronze]

Pb+ssg and blood punch with ssg punch swapping

[visual steeple]

fair

2016 is still easier because it is much unbalanced game

[jovial coral]

let be honest doom 2016 become a joke after you get rich get richer and Siphon Grenade

[serene stone]

I'd say 2016 is just easier to cheese/exploit, but Eternal's cheese/exploits are more broken overall. Look at yeethooks, double shot Destroyer Blade, and Bulldozing

[jovial coral]

Forget about hologram grenade too

[unreal flare]

I never ever used grenades in 2016 lmao

[jovial coral]

you can still cheese the bfg in 2016

[unreal flare]

gauss cannon made most fights trivial

[visual steeple]

2016 is easier to cheat and exploit from the base design perspective

[strange gale]

for what it's worth, un is much more consistent in de

[visual steeple]

you have to work for a lot more for the tech in eternal

[jovial coral]

You can kill the olivia spider mastermind in one bfg shot

[serene stone]

That's what I just said. 2016 is easier to cheese/exploit

[visual steeple]

you are confusing a meathook swing for a yeethook

[serene stone]

Okay?

[oak storm]

aside the fog and the Spirt Demon is a nice Map and the music is tooo good

[visual steeple]

All of the powerful tech in doom eternal puts you some kind of negative state that you have to do a lot to mitigate

[jovial coral]

the right side of blood swamp fog it peak design

Love it

[oak storm]

i not liked becuase since i have a eye decease is hard to me see where i need to go

[dry yacht]

what?

[serene stone]

Not really

[jovial coral]

fair enough

[storm eagle]

Yeah that makes sense, I think I saw you talking about that yesterday. I mean the fact that you're doing it is impressive. If you can get through it then you're good with the others after.

[dry yacht]

spirits im mostly fine with...the others ones however just waste my time

[oak storm]

so far the spirt not have possed a Maruder otherwise i will get my ass kicked

[dry yacht]

oh boy.

[visual steeple]

for an example with
ddb you lose fluidity of movement, fluidity of quickswaps, and you are doubling your output of plasmas cells

[visual steeple]

you are wrong

[twin cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796889193615851551/1265047862753099827/image.png?ex=66a21161&is=66a0bfe1&hm=e49bbbd81f5442dd4c1540363e81909d052ed275d25f5edecba629ed2844d158&

[storm eagle]

You can always take an easy route and freeze and then lob or something. You don't have to full auto

[serene stone]

laughs in blood punch chain stacking

[past sinew]

Funnily enough if not for the stone imps I would never have used the full auto mod even once

[oak storm]

and i take like how many trys to beat 2 Maruders at the same time in the Artic UAC Base

[past sinew]

Now I will bust it out on occasion

[visual steeple]

stone imps are bad

[serene stone]

Compelling

[twin cargo]

this right here

give this man a true

[past sinew]

The dual marauder fight was so funny to me

[serene stone]

laughs in SW3's full auto

[past sinew]

They ain't no great shakes when you just weapon swap

[dry yacht]

not even the funniest dual marauder fight

[visual steeple]

@serene stone ^^^

[serene stone]

Yeah they're not a very good enemy. But still fun to blood punch chain stack them

[dry yacht]

...huh?

what point are you trying to make?

[visual steeple]

do you know the double destroyer blade tech?

[dry yacht]

i do, i dont get your point

[serene stone]

Destroyer Blade you can just b hop while charging.

Or meathook fly into the air, charge it, then b hop while you land.

B hopping is pretty safe with it

[visual steeple]

there are downsides to using ddb putting you in a negative state

[oak storm]

i laughed when Hayden get Pissed for us blow up a hole in the core of Mars

[visual steeple]

haha

[twin cargo]

it's not even the full auto weakness, it's the fact that they can do more CC than the majority of heavies and it's a fodder that has resistance to every weapon except FA

[jovial coral]

that was funny yeah

[oak storm]

we dont care about Hayden opinion we go do it anyway

[serene stone]

There's many ways to circumvent and rectify the downsides

[past sinew]

Like the cranial bore in Turok 2

[dry yacht]

and thats why 2016 is an easier game???

[visual steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067896775685447710/1265746570813378661/Editor62.mp4?ex=66a2a1da&is=66a1505a&hm=2bbd3b97d3b94683b3692e3a760ee2b31ed93111f508fed5e0295ae2dbf24395& in regards to stone imps lol

someone identify what is going on in this clip

[storm eagle]

Can someone identify what's going on in this clip?

[oak storm]

so everyone here have a favorite Slayer Skin?

[dry yacht]

lock on burst a baron of hell, stone imps starts doing a sonic, slayer shoots em with stickies, stone imp does a sonic, slayer switches to full auto, slayer kills stone imp

[visual steeple]

2016 is a easier game cuz there are no semblence of balance in that game enemies don't challenge you enemies are overtuned no resource management slayer's capabilities are too high for the enemies

[jovial coral]

Golden bounty lord looks nice

[storm eagle]

Wrong

[visual steeple]

wrong

[serene stone]

That sounds more like Eternal tbh.

But eh

[visual steeple]

no

[serene stone]

Ye

[dry yacht]

2016 is harder than eternal....its a lot more bullshit

[serene stone]

Ebony Praetor

[jovial coral]

wrong

[visual steeple]

for the first 3 levels maybe

[jovial coral]

.

[oak storm]

the ones as my favorites are the classics ,Demonic and the ´Prateor skins for Slayer

[visual steeple]

cool 👍

[storm eagle]

ig I never really much cared about the skins bc it's a fps...

[past sinew]

I like the World Spear Slayer skin

[visual steeple]

not the case

[past sinew]

Big fan of that particular shade of blue

[oak storm]

and DOOM for me is the only Franchise i play since start because i born 2 years before existed

[dry yacht]

both siphon grenade and rich get richer appear later in the run

[frank drum]

playern change the shotgun mod by changin weapon, some times happens to me by mistake

[visual steeple]

wrong

[frank drum]

what happen after those 3 levels?

[jovial coral]

forget about Hologram Grenades

[visual steeple]

game becomes laughably easy

[frank drum]

how?

[visual steeple]

@left prairie ^^^

[oak storm]

it just me or always Slayer just pick the mod from the robot or in 2016 he decide to punch it

[dry yacht]

2016 he punch it cuz its uac bullshit, in eternal he just takes it cuz its vegas robots

[median oak]

when i do weapon swapping should i use the swap hotkey or should i click the weapon bind each time? i just swapped to mnk for eternal and am trying to figure it out

[frank drum]

so becomes easier after 3 levels because slayer get gadgets? and good weapons?

[storm eagle]

Just find a set of binds that are comfortable for you; mess around with some different ones and see how it feels.

[frank drum]

because shotgun was total garbage

[visual steeple]

that and the enemies don't challenge u

[storm eagle]

I wouldn't bind weapons past 1-4 tbh

[visual steeple]

not true lol

[dry yacht]

well the game gets easier once you get gauss

[median oak]

thank you

[storm eagle]

np

[dry yacht]

but i still find 2016 way harder, maybe its cuz i play the game mostly normally and dont do exploits

[visual steeple]

define exploits

[storm eagle]

Define exploits?

[frank drum]

really? only use the grenade launcher of the combat shootgun, and was really bad

[jovial coral]

what kinda exploits ??

[dry yacht]

well maybe i used the wrong word, i dont wanna bother learning hologram whatever the hell

[jovial coral]

so hologram is exploit in your opinion ???

[frank drum]

so the early enemies are stronger than the later ones from the third level?

[dry yacht]

the hologram swap or whatever its called yeah

that is what you guys are talking about right?

or do you just genuinely mean the hologram in general?

[jovial coral]

NOO

[visual steeple]

the slayer is really weak in the beginning

and a lot of imps that do hitscan fireballs

[jovial coral]

hologram swap what that exactly ??

It obvious you don't know about the hologram grenade

[dry yacht]

???

[frank drum]

and what is the first thing you get after the thirty level that makes you stronger

[dry yacht]

whatever...i wont bother with this conversation any longer.

[jovial coral]

Yeah because you have not idea what you talking about

[dry yacht]

sure buddy.

lets go with that.

[visual steeple]

💀

[jovial coral]

nvm

[frank drum]

genuinely ask

[visual steeple]

you have more gear more stats more ovetuned gear with undertuned enemies

🥱

[ancient vine]

Is anyone else having problems connecting to the eternal servers?

[storm eagle]

no

[visual steeple]

it's a chewsday so it has issues lol

[ancient vine]

Tf ym it’s chewsday

[visual steeple]

ITS CHEWSDAY INNIT BRUV /j

[storm eagle]

bruvvy

[ancient vine]

I’m going to wait till my game isn’t shitting itself

[jovial coral]

super shotgun mastery, stun grenade plasma rifle mod, remote detention mastery mod

[storm eagle]

you on pc?

[ancient vine]

PS5

[visual steeple]

🥱

[frank drum]

all of that just after the thirty level? well i was curious because how is it that the game is difficult for only 3 levels but then suddenly becomes easy

[jovial coral]

thirty level ???

you mean after third level ??

[visual steeple]

I think he means third

[storm eagle]

Is it just crashing or whu?

[visual steeple]

and yes the slayer can get all of that after the third level

[jovial coral]

the stun grenade mod is a whole story you can get it in second level

remote detention mastery you can get in foundry which level 3

[storm eagle]

I'M YOUR MOM AND YOU'RE ALL GROUNDED

[ancient vine]

No won’t let me connect to the servers

[storm eagle]

You're signed into Bethesda?

[visual steeple]

the general boost you get by the third level negates majority of the articifical difficulty

[ancient vine]

Yes

[frank drum]

thats insane

[ancient vine]

It’s says eternal can’t connect to the psn servers even though when I check my network it says I’m connected to psn and everything is fine

[frank drum]

well, maybe ill play that game for more than 10 minutes someday.

[storm eagle]

good chyat everyone

[visual steeple]

anyways daug phighngiher signing off

[storm eagle]

hope you all have an awful day

[dry yacht]

thats just life in general

[visual steeple]

have an amazing day :D <3 all love espeically u @buoyant hearth

[serene stone]

Are you LB?

[storm eagle]

no

[visual steeple]

No i am not prymier

gtg

cya guys much love

[buoyant hearth]

yeah have a good one too

[storm eagle]

hmmm lmk if it gets resolved later today

[strange gale]

using 60fps timecode for timing and the zombie headbonk gk as an example, the slayer become actionable 7 frames after your fist goes off-screen. after that, you have 18 actionable iframes which translates to slightly over 300ms, and that lines up with what's listed within decls\playerprops\player\default.decl

tested on nightmare, and according to this you have even more invincibility below UV https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1265756830915625132/image.png

[junior token]

I think we should have gotten crucible or chainsaw skins

[dry yacht]

i think we should have gotten skins that changes the designs of guns

would have been cooler than slayer skins

give me a SSG forged out of demon flesh and bone

[junior token]

Fuck YEAH

BOOM! A LOST SOUL FLIES OUT

BITES THE HEAD RIGHT OFF

OR A MAYKR CRUCIBLE KATANA

[dry yacht]

a maykr plasma gun, demonic crucible, classic bfg...

[junior token]

YEAH

[fringe torrent]

I'd love DOOM 3 weapon skins and just slayer skins in general

[junior token]

Or they could ACTUALLY MAKE A 1883 CLASSIC SHOTGUN

Unmaker ver. Of the unmaykr

I'm hoping off bros, see ya

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-gone-vanish-imout-bye-gif-17966048

[visual steeple]

thx for researching it fair but it doesn't amount to much

I still get murdered after glory kills in eternal instead of 2016 because the enemies are actively engaging me

[serene stone]

Okay Zazman

[strange gale]

you can mash bp out of gk, and that comes out way faster than your invincibility ends

you can also dash as soon as you're actionable

[strange gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/1265765182093660320/iframes.mp4

pull this into your editing program of choice and look at the frames

[twin cargo]

hmmm I stand corrected, it does feel like it doesn't but you are right

the weird thing is you hear the low health sound before the iframes end

[strange gale]

that's because the iframes last for exactly 300ms and this is a 60fps video, which means the 18th frame is slightly longer than the actual invincibility

[twin cargo]

gotcha

well the more you know I guess

[azure oriole]

I should play with no hp gate

Curious to see how hard It is

[frank drum]

theres iframes when you respawn after falling?

[azure oriole]

Nah

Maybe there are

But the screen turns black

And you can still move

[zinc flax]

Im trying to finish the campaign on ultra nightmare and I literally lost my sanity

And my common sense

[azure oriole]

damn

[calm gust]

Someone who plays doom

Like a member of this channel please help me

[azure oriole]

Just type your problem and if someone who knows how to help comes along they'll probably answer

No one in the server is guaranteed to know how to help you tho so just saying "I need help" doesn't really clarify who should be responding

[calm gust]

Oh okay

I feel like I’ve been laced

Holy shit let me type

I don’t know man I think I’ve been laced

I’ve been typing nothing and trying to send a message

Dude

[tacit aspen]

I hope you're safe, best case at home

@calm gust you good?

[calm gust]

Yeah in my bed lmao

I saw myself In third person sneaking around

[tacit aspen]

Fever? Maybe? Other than that I can't explain. Get some sleep

[azure oriole]

No offense to the man but he just seems baked as hell lol

Like too baked to remember what his problem was

[tacit aspen]

Lol I was wondering what it was

[azure oriole]

If he's still having it when he's sober we'll let him speak

[tacit aspen]

Like, after the second message I thought there would be a description of his problem incoming, so I've been waiting lol

[gusty pebble]

most sane doom player

[azure oriole]

I mean yeah the "I think I've been laced" statements were concerning but the fact that he keeps disappearing and then going to general to complain to Kex about how chickens can't be men makes me think he's just baked

[tacit aspen]

I'm not active in general. I've decided to ignore that after I saw a very upsetting gif being posted, and it was fine and funny

Well, to me it was upsetting.

[calm gust]

Lmao I just melted

I did some research

Nah I uhh bought something I won’t say and I just smoked the “free weed” he threw in there 😭

I thought the other thing was a bit lacklustre

Lmao now I’m melting

Apartttttt

[young mango]

cwin just like me fr

[tacit aspen]

Free weed - and your profile pic is green.... Aha

[calm gust]

lol green like doom slayer

[calm gust]

Literally me fr

[azure oriole]

Cwin do you also get really good at doom eternal when you combine substances together?

Asking for a friend

[tacit aspen]

[calm gust]

Yeah surprisingly

I just shit posted four videos to YouTube about that

Funny even

https://youtu.be/Ys5mjtysDGQ?si=YufiWBzwuKV_3gjs

[azure oriole]

Aha so it isn't luck or coincidence

[calm gust]

Lmao tbh I don’t even remember most of it

[azure oriole]

Substance abuse = better doom eternal gaming CONFIRMED

[calm gust]

Only just I was more alert sober

[calm gust]

Hell yes

[tacit aspen]

You guys

[calm gust]

I’m tweaking what the fuck

[young mango]

pattern started with immora

can’t overdo it though, if I get high I’m just gonna sit on my ass

[azure oriole]

Nahhh

You've gotta get the TAG1 record too

This is how that works

Get out your witch's cauldron Tammie cause we're about to do some mixing

You're gonna be the best doom eternal player since drunk Tammie

[sour gazelle]

Does any actual good players play battlemode anymore?

I get so many noob players. Both slayer and demon

[calm gust]

I’m okay at demon

[sour gazelle]

Okay can mean a lot of things bro

[calm gust]

Okay that’s true

[azure oriole]

No

[sour gazelle]

I figured.

[eternal halo]

https://youtu.be/HhGHU2-zZX0
any tips yall?

i apologize for the bad quality, my computer cannot handle recording and playing games at the same time

[azure oriole]

Memorize encounters

[frank drum]

space out from the enemies, use bombs and shit

[eternal halo]

ive been trying, but i always notice that trying to get away from one super heavy i always crash into fodder. its a problem with my game sense that's been getting better, but still needs to be worked on.

[stuck nova]

The chaingun turret mod with the infinite ammo cheat is fun

Also I’m not a fan of the SSG in the dark ages being lever action

[queen yoke]

I BEAT DOON EATERNAL ON ULTRA NIGHTMARE

[valid nova]

Nice

[sage axle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-jim-carrey-im-back-back-return-gif-4781968

[slow spear]

Man I shouldve done ELM

Replaying the campaign on nightmare currently have >30 lives and Im on nekravol

Only died once the whole way

[sage axle]

ELM also gives you extra lives right at the beginning

How much damage does a pb do in comparison to the other guns

[azure oriole]

Idk the numbers but it’s pretty mid

[young mango]

There should be a damage spreadsheet in the pinned messages

[azure oriole]

But it’s extremely versatile so it can be used in any situation

[storm eagle]

@young mango I still need a vid of you high off your ass doing a speedrun btw

[azure oriole]

His yt is full of vids like that wym

[storm eagle]

hahaha

Also, hi!

[spring panther]

only for stuff like achievements

[azure oriole]

pink shield yes

[sage axle]

Thank you

[forest marten]

Question guys, i play doom eternal on easy mode (I’m too young to die mode) because I find it difficult tbh, it’s fun but those pink things suck imo. My question is, is the game difficult or do I suffer from skill issue?

[sage axle]

Doom is really, really hard if you’ve never played a game like it before

[forest marten]

Eternal is my first doom game

[sage axle]

If you’re referring to pinkies, they instantly die to blood punch, you can also double jump over them, or freeze them, so try to save your ice bombs for them

[forest marten]

I’m happy to say I’ve only died once on the lvl I played more recently

[forest marten]

Yeah I don’t do well with multitasking is kinda my issue, but I’m still learning

[sage axle]

There are several methods of faltering demons that you can use to stun them, such as frag grenades, remote detonation on the rocket launcher, chain gun shield, and I think also the microwave beam explosion

[sage axle]

Don’t worry too much about it

[forest marten]

Yeah I’m working on it. I’m defiantly better, I’m almost finished I will post likely replay it on a higher difficulty later.

[forest marten]

I took a break from doom for a week or so to play some other games but I’m going to play it tomorrow some more.

[sage axle]

Keep playing the game regularly and you’ll definitely keep getting better as time goes on

[forest marten]

Yeah. First person shooters in general I’m not great with. My dead island 2 gameplay is ass lmao

[sage axle]

It’s kind of difficult to actually put into practice what people tell you to do for this game, so try stuff out that you’re comfortable with and if something works, do that until it doesn’t work anymorr

[forest marten]

Good point. My strat is use the most in (I have the rune that slows time when mid air ads) use the hook on the super shottty and jump around. Once out of ammo I use chainsaw. And use things like the heavy canon and grenades in between, it works well for me. The heavy canon is great for taking out weak points.

[sage axle]

Chrono strike is pretty good to start out with to help you line up shots. Try to take advantage of your full arsenal as much as possible, but really just practice is the best way to get better. Which sounds obvious writing it

[forest marten]

I don’t memorize things by name much that’s the time slow when midair one right?

[thorn ibex]

can somebody help me get bloodbath achievement later

pls

[lunar birch]

Guys i just make this short edit clip, is it ok? Not about the gameplay bc my skills suck lol

https://youtu.be/SZAik9qebbw?si=9o7cg6l27e9QSdMh

[barren sonnet]

Me like doom

[azure oriole]

ain't so bad

[nocturne lynx]

Ah, the speedrun mentality of calling your play shit yet it’s better than 90-95% of global players.

[pearl viper]

I think I'm improving :D

I can get through Nightmare hoard mode with few problems

an it's fun

[azure oriole]

It is shit because it is for your standards

Not globally

[pearl viper]

Nvm I just got killed in the Urdak by a giant hoard that spawned surrounding me :p

[thorn ibex]

can somebody help me get bloodbath achievement later

[limber canopy]

I honestly dont get why the fireborn barons of hell are so damn hated

Yeah i can agree that the completely gray body isn't as cool as the red one but i really think the fiery wrist blades offset it

[azure oriole]

Fireborne Barons are better than normal Barons.

The grey skin flaking off for a lava body is awesome.

[past sinew]

I think the Fireborne Barons are a cool design but the big pink boys of 2016 were my favorite visual upgrade so I am forever disappointed we didn't get both varities in Eternal

[azure oriole]

Same

They’re awesome

[limber canopy]

That'd be sweet

[azure oriole]

I think people are mostly just disappointed that they replaced the 2016 look which was essentially a modernized classic Baron

[limber canopy]

I wonder if the barons in the dark ages will look more like their classic designs

[limber canopy]

Not really, the only similarities they really have are the color schemes

[azure oriole]

I said they’re modernized lol

They’re not 1:1 with the classic Baron design but are very clearly heavily inspired visually

[limber canopy]

Yeah thats true

[azure oriole]

They mainly just muscled them up and gave em a much stronger jawline

[limber canopy]

If they only had furry legs...

[azure oriole]

Classic Barons looked more minotaur-like

[limber canopy]

They were classic goat demons

[azure oriole]

Wtf

[pearl viper]

Vega didn't like something

[azure oriole]

Man this server really need to give perms to active users

[pearl viper]

hi vega

[eager storm]

Hi, @pearl viper.

[sage axle]

I prefer the new barons tbh

They look more threatening and they have a better pallet overall

[limber canopy]

They're a bit too gray for me

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730631585485029406/1266027523028811818/IMG_6766.png?ex=66a3a783&is=66a25603&hm=99f5245cff94429350aa9ef7c02412f670222aa5bb5ae90e2bd2fc4f0153eed1&

[limber canopy]

Big ahh forehead

[pearl viper]

I just got done fighting one of those in eternal

:p

[azure oriole]

Fuck Vega

[limber canopy]

I hope you explode vega

[azure oriole]

All my homies hate Vega

[limber canopy]

Hes only cool in the games

[azure oriole]

Not downloading the backup next time

[austere bronze]

vega is chill 50% of the time and the rest annoying

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730631585485029406/1266027523494645941/IMG_6768.jpg?ex=66a3a783&is=66a25603&hm=dd0923fa2e7ff35a2363e2bb231cbf95a828287e9ab9eeac7f5618a3240c3704&

Finally did it holy shit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730631585485029406/1266027523993636926/IMG_6770.jpg?ex=66a3a783&is=66a25603&hm=fa2b79082822ac14eaaa4116e9a161cdd4940b15ff752bff29e18c9ca5ef1890&

Never going to understand the Fireborn Baron hate beyond just wishing they didn’t completely replace 2016 Barons ngl

[ivory bay]

what do people complain about of them

[azure oriole]

They’re often brought up as an example of the downgrades Eternal made to Demon designs (which I think is overstated across the board honestly)

[ivory bay]

id say the dlc demons are debatable but the vanilla ones are fine to me

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730631585485029406/1266030213733814383/IMG_6771.jpg?ex=66a3aa04&is=66a25884&hm=0052754070a21de3b36c33a3d5f11afd51fbf7f043a8de004410d0ae1977c03d&

This is genuinely terrible though

Wait nevermind thought you responded to the armored Baron image for a sec lol

But yeah the classic Baron is by far my favorite

Fits the vibe of the rest of dooms demon roster while looking the most traditionally demonic out of all of them

Really calling the cyber demon out huh

Eternal made changes that bring its base game roster more in line with classic doom demons, though of course aesthetically it’s changed to fit the more colorful artstyle so it doesn’t quite hit the same spot still

Anyone who complains about it looking too alien are lame asf

The demons having that blocky tech would be nice yeah

Would help to set hell technology apart from the sleeker NuDoom UAC designs

Though there’s inevitably going to be some merging unless they cut the Cyberdemon, Cyber-Mancubus’, and Arachnotrons connection to the UAC in 2016/Eternal

[humble inlet]

wrong the truly greatest design is the Cacodemon in doom 3

[slow sigil]

"Eternal made such big downgrades on deamon design smh my head"
demons generally look like fromcthe classics

[azure oriole]

Honestly I’m a big fan of the doom 2 revenant because it’s so fucking goofy. Looks like it came out of army of darkness and they just slapped some RPGs on it.

Peak demon design

The Doom 3 Pinky is just alright though I will go on the record and say I like it more than 2016/Eternal’s pinky

Doom 1/2 and 64 pinky are better though

It’s like honestly one of the most generic designs they could have gone with

[past sinew]

I love the new Pinky they made him just this goofy idiot what slips on the floor like an overexcited puppy

Except he also wants to eat your torso

[azure oriole]

Idk it does nothing for me

I don’t love the Doom 3 pinky but it stands out more to me at least

[past sinew]

Revenant will always be beautiful though, no matter what game he is in

[azure oriole]

#screenshots message

I love doing this

[past sinew]

(Classic Cacodemon is my favorite demon design overall, followed closely by the Eternal re-design)

[azure oriole]

“They do nothing but scream” isn’t an overstatement

They’re the example everyone uses for why eternal demons suck and tbh rightfully so

[past sinew]

Just giving him a pupil between 2016 and Eternal and making him a little rounder was such a good move

[azure oriole]

They are terrible don’t really get what they were trying to go for

[past sinew]

The Tyrant is the most 1:1 "we just took the sprite and made him 3D" and I love it

I guess the zombie soldiers in Eternal are close to that too

Mouldy green hair is peak

[azure oriole]

Fireborn Barons, Tyrants, Soldiers/Shield Guys, Cacos, and whiplashes are my favorites.

[past sinew]

I also really like the Archvile design, although he is (like most of the demons) a lot more chitenous

[azure oriole]

Yeah agreed Archvile is quite good

[past sinew]

Yeah if the fireborne barons had been a separate thing like the dread knights

[azure oriole]

I do like the Mancubus as well though I think that’s more of a 7/10 than a 10/10 design

[past sinew]

The change of face for the Mancubus between 2016 and Eternal was really good

[azure oriole]

Doesn’t really translate as well into 3D as some of the other classic designs did imho

But I still like it slightly more than 2016 Mancubi

It suits the Archvile quite well gonna be honest

Definitely shouldn’t be on like the majority of demons though

I’d be lying if I said Eternal didn’t sacrifice some mood for the sake of making shit easier to see, but I do also think Eternal isn’t bad visually either

Has plenty of bangers in there

[past sinew]

I gotta say I disagree. I love how fuckin' cartoony the visuals get.

I like my colors to pop

[shell fox]

Eternal's artstyle style was definitely not just to make gameplay easier, it was full on cartoonish.

[past sinew]

Everything in Eternal pops, it's so nice, and the absolute nonsense of the story is great! It's full-on nonsense that takes itself very seriously, and that makes it funnier

(Obviously this is all just my preferences here, but, you know)

[shell fox]

I prefer 2016's atmosphere and artstyle

The cartoony and humourous elements collide heavily with The Slayer's attitude and the OST

[past sinew]

I think the OST fits how cartoony it looks

Metal is cartoonish, to me

[shell fox]

It's like the game tries to partially take itself seriously, only for there to be a huge floating blue armor chestplate behind King Novik.

[past sinew]

See that's great! That's comedy, baby!

[azure oriole]

The devs deciding to go with a different artstyle in Eternal instead of what 2016 had going on was probably mainly for the sake of visual clarity, at least initially. It’s not like being “cartoony” was the only thing the artstyle was aiming for either honestly. Does feel like there are conflicting elements of the visual direction tbh.

[past sinew]

Everyone is being Super Serious about the Fate of Humanity while a big floating blue orb is floating off to the side

I love that shit so much

[azure oriole]

Some levels at least give the vibe that they were genuinely trying to elicit vibes that aren’t just “look how colorful shit is”

[shell fox]

Atlantica is a great example of this, and so is the Holt.

[past sinew]

2016 has a great atmosphere but Eternal going for something different is totally fine to me. I mean you keep going to a big fuckin' space castle between levels, it's inherently ridiculous

[azure oriole]

I will say while I think 2016 is a fine game artstyle wise I also think it’s overrated as shit in that area

[past sinew]

To me, it's the shift from Evil Dead 2 to Ash vs. Evil Dead

[shell fox]

I love the more colorful environments, but the game can have more colors without being super cartoonish.

[fringe torrent]

Don't forget Boneyard from 2016 exists

[past sinew]

(Skipping Army of Darkness because DOOM The Dark Ages exists now)

[fringe torrent]

Wasn't ED2 comedic in itself?

[past sinew]

It is but it still has a more pure horror vibe

Darker palette and a little grimier

[azure oriole]

The mars levels tend to just bleed together, Hell levels are generally visually appealing although I think the overuse of rocky plateaus is really apparent.

[shell fox]

Honestly, even Ultrakill is less cartoonish than Eternal.

[shell fox]

I mean, it's Mars.

[fringe torrent]

Finally, someone who recognizes DOOM 1993 tried to go for horror sometimes too

[past sinew]

DOOM '93 has great horror moments

They used the hell out of that sector lighting

[fringe torrent]

I see a lot of people call it BS when it's brought up

[shell fox]

Where can you go on the planet that has been dead for millions of years?

[azure oriole]

The Hell levels are a lot better than the Mars/UAC ones though imho because they use lighting and architecture more creatively to set the Hell levels apart

Not to say Mars has no diversity either

[past sinew]

(SIGIL if nothing else is a good showcase for the way '93 was capable of real spooky vibes)

[azure oriole]

There’s the refinery

[fringe torrent]

I really don't have any opinion on art direction other than it's great in every game, but I also think Wolf3D looks and plays amazing and that is something most would disagree with

[azure oriole]

But it’s not as good as I wish it was

[azure oriole]

Doom 3 says hi

[fringe torrent]

Everyone knows E3M1 is the best Hell level

[past sinew]

Wolf3D looks as good as something on that engine could look but the lack of floor and ceiling textures are a bummer

[shell fox]

Doom 3's UAC looked the same most of the way through, though?

[fringe torrent]

I unironically like the level

[azure oriole]

Not really, at least the areas that weren’t blackish grey hallways

[past sinew]

Yeah DOOM Eternal's hell levels rule

Nekrovol is extremely good

[shell fox]

Which are most of the UAC...

[azure oriole]

Lol

[shell fox]

You stop sometimes at certain spots, which look like 2016's UAC lol

[azure oriole]

I just replayed the game, I can confidently say the majority of the locations feel distinct enough

Like mars city, the underground tunnels, alpha labs, and delta labs all have unique vibes

You can see the technological progression between them all

[shell fox]

I'll give it to you, the underground tunnels do look pretty unique.

[azure oriole]

And ofc there’s the excavation sites and hell itself

[shell fox]

Everything else tho? Ehhh

[azure oriole]

Feel like it’s disingenuous to claim everything blends together

It’s not perfect, some corridors can feel samey

[fringe torrent]

The sewer pump level or whatever the name was is also very distinct

[shell fox]

Hmmmm

[past sinew]

The uhhhh refinery

Where the first Mancubus encounter is

[fringe torrent]

Maybe? I think everyone knows which one I mean though, it's the one that introduces the Revenant

[azure oriole]

But like I said, Mars City feels unique from Alpha Labs, Alpha labs feels unique from Delta, etc etc

2016 isn’t as fresh on my mind who knows

[fringe torrent]

Probably not used as much nowadays because it used to be crazy shit back then

[past sinew]

I like Doom 3's visuals a lot (except for everyone's pointy heads)

[azure oriole]

Perhaps it does a better job than I’m remembering

[shell fox]

Humans looked rough in Doom 3

[azure oriole]

But as my memory serves most of the UAC installations kinda just completely blend together besides for the factory in level 2 and parts of Lazarus labs

[past sinew]

I think 2016's only failing is that you don't get really big differences in environments until you go to hell and then go to the Vega core, which is one of the coolest levels of all time

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah Vega core

[shell fox]

The level where we chase Olivia looks pretty different tho

[past sinew]

Heading down into the Lazarus labs is also really good

[shell fox]

Argent Tower is also unique looking

And like he said, Vega Core is damn amazing

[fringe torrent]

Correct answer is all of 'em

[azure oriole]

Overall Eternal

Pretty much every 2016 level is good and unique looking

[azure oriole]

Number 2 would be Doom 1

[fringe torrent]

I also really love the DOOM 3 marine armor

[azure oriole]

Except for argent factory and argent factory destroyed, they really could've been more creative with that

[azure oriole]

Placeholder looking ah

[past sinew]

Probably Eternal? It's a toss-up between him and the original Doomguy

[fringe torrent]

Thanks

[azure oriole]

Doom 3 marine armor is cursed in general ngl

Looks wonky asf

[past sinew]

Oh fuck I forgot about the 64 look. You know what, maybe that.

[shell fox]

It is a placeholder but it looks better than Eternal's mr. Gaps ahh design.

[past sinew]

(I just played through 64 again how could I forget how good that armor looks)

[azure oriole]

His biceps neg fortunately

[shell fox]

Exposed biceps and unsealed neck

Yuck

[azure oriole]

2016 praetor suit deserved to be dragged more

Won’t call it mid but I want to

[shell fox]

Looks better and resembles a tank more, despite the Slayer being lean in 2016.

It feels like power armor, not like an incoherent suit made up of different parts.

[azure oriole]

It’s lacking in personality and any memorable qualities besides for the helmet

[shell fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hench-gif-22572149

[azure oriole]

If the helmet was any worse I’d call it shit unironically

[azure oriole]

Dude has fucking tumors growing on his arms

[austere bronze]

oil injection moment

[shell fox]

It's perfect for me, but the Eternal skin version with the equipment launcher is better.

I dislike the really clear visor though, so dumb looking.

Thanks for the mod that darkens the visor to look like 2016's.

[fringe torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246106122566373407/1266041216915472526/E599nsMX0AEmIyS.png?ex=66a3b444&is=66a262c4&hm=a90251a6daf26bd2d0b78e49377039298762a62c8ae15b608d1a3a1421b2bd15&

I love shitty clickbait

[azure oriole]

Depending on the lighting it looks fine to me

[shell fox]

The Slayer's biceps lowkey look synthol injected because of the armor

[azure oriole]

Do slightly prefer the 2016 visor color though yeah

[shell fox]

They look so funny at times ngl

[austere bronze]

fr

[shell fox]

Football channels in the late 2010s clear

"FOOTBALL INSANE AND RESPECT MOMENTS 2018"

thumbnail is Cristiano Ronaldo slicing someone in half with his laser eyes

[fringe torrent]

God damn is it weird seeing people say 2010s and not "x years ago"

[fringe torrent]

I once saw one with Ronaldo whipping it out

[shell fox]

Yeah fucking torso sized ass thing 😭

[fringe torrent]

Pretty cursed

[azure oriole]

HUH

They allow that stuff on YouTube lmao?

[forest marten]

He means his trophy guys 😬

[worldly anchor]

Bonjour,il y a des francais sur le discord ou des personnes qui parlent francais svp

[thorn ibex]

Can someone one help me get bloodbath achievement on ps

[gloomy trench]

Anyone else wish we got the Doom 3 marine as a skin for Eternal.
I know that's not gonna happen at this point, but It'd been nice to have a nod to every game in the franchise.

[azure oriole]

They forgot eternal existed after they started working on dark ages

But then again that’s how single purchase games are

[slow sigil]

Eternal had updates for a year even throughout covid

[azure oriole]

Yes

But it is what it is

At least we got the rest of the classic skins

[gloomy trench]

Yeah, there's quite few, so that's nice.
I heard the 64 skin is a part of the Fall Mega event, so it'll be nice to get that.

[olive flame]

That'd be cool!

[olive flame]

Interesting!

You know I'm hoping like we get custom colors and skins throughout the map like secrets in the game agree?

And then you can select them

That'd be awesome!

[gloomy trench]

I'm sure the Dark Ages will have skins.

[olive flame]

I see

[shell fox]

Eternal got updates up to like early 2022

2 years worth of support for a mostly singleplayer game is not shabby at all

[dry yacht]

also KEX found that they are updating something in eternal

so you never know...we might get something for quake con

[shell fox]

Wouldn't hold my hopes up for anything too big

Might just be something as simple as minor fixes, who knows?

[dry yacht]

i dont hope for much either but you never know

[shell fox]

Or maybe an UI update teasing about TDA just like 2016 had one for Eternal

[past sinew]

We will finally discover how Doomguy got his fortress

[ivory bay]

looted

not what that meant

[shell fox]

^yes, not what I meant

[thorn ibex]

Can someone help me get bloodbath achievement please

Ps

[azure oriole]

What’s wrong with it

[ivory bay]

cluttered and scales poorly

[azure oriole]

I get that it’s too colorful but just lower the saturation

Or make it transparent

#videos message

Look at my hud settings

Exactly