doom-eternal

[vale pebble]

hola, casi nadie habla ingles aquí pero yo si :3

[flint wolf]

Upi

[sour sage]

thanks Pyro

[dull herald]

yaa ofcc

[serene stone]

Does Hugo Martin go here?

[dull herald]

hugos spoken a little

however he stopped at around the time him and josh were streaming doom

[serene stone]

I see

[spare willow]

is eternal doomness?

[patent pond]

That is a question only the father himself can answer

[serene stone]

Is DOOM 3 a "gud gaem, butt bad Dewm gayem"?

[patent pond]

I haven't played the original Doom 3 just know that Doom 3 BFG edition is ass

[serene stone]

BFG Edition is unfortunately the only version I played.

While I liked it, I'm sure I would start hating it, if I ever played the OG D3

[patent pond]

Like I said I never played the original Doom 3 myself but I've seen videos and it looks and sounds a thousand times better than the BFG edition

I still don't like it that you have to reload in that game one of many Doom rules the only weapon that could be reloaded in a doom game is the super shotgun and the super shotgun only that's just me though

[serene stone]

I think BFG Edition Shotgun sounds better , but the other guns on OG sound better

[patent pond]

Yeah

[patent pond]

Like I said haven't played the original so I don't know if this applies it's to the original Doom 3 but mostly every gun in the game in Doom 3 BFG edition is basically a fucking Nerf gun even the super shotguns not really that good so I would recommend using the plasma rifle just as a heads up

[small helm]

og Doom 3 shotgun is a peashooter

[inland kite]

enough playthroughs i will now play the game on un

wish me luck and i hope i dont die from the weird ass fire spilling thing in the doom hunter base

[rapid moat]

Plants vs zombie?1?

[azure oriole]

They're on to something there.

[small helm]

it just sounds and feels bad, simple as that

[rapid moat]

Fair

[vale pebble]

hey! peashooters are actually good

[serene stone]

Tbf Eternal Combat Shotgun also kinda a peashooter if you use the base fire, and not the mods

But the mods (Sticky Bombs and Full Auto) make it good

[rapid moat]

Full auto kinda mid only good if you know how to use it

[azure oriole]

Full Auto should be base fire, the only reason it isn't is to keep the reference animation to classic DOOM.

[rapid moat]

Yeah

[lyric lodge]

Full auto's pretty ass

Sticky bomb is good for pb stickies

[pearl viper]

I like full auto in some cases.

You can rip the cart right off a Doom Hunter if you're low on other ammo.

[rapid moat]

True

[pearl viper]

I've also used it on Barons and it works well while they're running at you. When they stand still, you combo.

[patent pond]

Factual

[lyric lodge]

Chaingun shield bp

[pearl viper]

There's going to be times where you don't have blood punch because pinkies and cyber manc. I don't really use chaingun shield that often myself. I can usually roflstomp a Doom Hunter by SSG+Ballista the cart and then finish it off with a LoB and a glory kill, but like if theres 2 of them back to back, I might pull the full auto out and go after the other one.

[lyric lodge]

Unless youre a really good player and have max hp and armour often then maybe yeah

Ssg ballista isnt fast nor good for doom hunters tho

[pearl viper]

I try to stay at 50% or more at all times before I go in for a kill. Armor on the other hand, it goes so fast on nightmare. I just try at all costs to avoid being hit by the attacks that matter.

SSG Ballista seems to work for me well, but I forgot in a perfect scenario, I'll blood punch once and then SSG Ballista

[lyric lodge]

Yeahhh but its better to stay long range against dh

[pearl viper]

I don't long range Doom Hunters after that whole thing I had with Nightmare Reclaimed Earth in that one room.

A perfect kill for me would be meathook, blood punch,SSG+ballista until the cart comes off, LoB. No Glory kill.

[strange gale]

with the right spacing you can also just dash in

[pearl viper]

I don't know why but it's 50/50 if they go into glory kill state

[azure oriole]

Check the damage chart.

#doom-eternal message

[lyric lodge]

I ran around waiting for my ice bomb cuz i was too stupid to pull up my chaingun shield 😭

[pearl viper]

Shouldn't the damage be the same each time I hit them with the same attacks?

[lyric lodge]

Some rockets like walls

[pearl viper]

Ye, but I can see them either hit the wall or the target.

That room is a wide open space so most of the time wen I Lob'd, all 3 would hit.

[azure oriole]

Ah. That is right. Probably some oddities with the Blood Punch shockwave. That or some other kind of weirdness like with Prowler and Arbalest.

[pearl viper]

I think maybe Ballista splash sometimes, but if I make a direct hit, does splash count on the same target?

[azure oriole]

The sheet does list them as additive damage, for whatever that's worth.

[pearl viper]

So maybe that's it. I'm guessing if I make a direct hit, the splash is different just enough at a different angle each time to glory state

The reason why I saw on a Doom Hunter that a perfect kill for me doesn't end in a Glory is because there's usually something else I need to take care of just after like a Baron or Cursed Prowler. I'll either have the second blood punch ready or not need it anyways. I do take the time to find fodder and use heavy cannon base fire on them to charge it tho.

[timid heath]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-2-retro-gaming-pain-elemental-gif-15567657007096176461

[topaz sundial]

Man I just did some crazy thing on DLC2

I ended up essentially backwards long jumping

[round beacon]

guys does anyone know if theres noclip, and how to activate it?

wanna start like a 6th or 7th playthrough and i am so sick of doing hell on earth i just wanna skip it

[serene stone]

Better than the base fire doe

[brazen vine]

hi

[austere bronze]

I think you need to have meathook by chrispy dowloaded but then you can go into console and just type "noclip" to enable it

[austere bronze]

Hello

[young mango]

pre 6.66 it was a very consistent glory kill, because of the iframes Inbetween phases, but it’s still an oddity to people because its 5000 hp first phase and 2500 hp second phase, with doom hunter having no resistance at all towards lock on, so it should be 2700 damage, but because of some weird quirk, he tanks more damage than he should be able to, I’ve seen this in a document before

[pearl viper]

I forgot about the dual health bars. So there is something weird about how the damage calculates.

If I fight 10 Doom Hunters off the cart and direct hit every LoB on each one, I find that 5 of them will glory state and 5 will just die. Give or take.

Also, did Revenants get any changes? I feel like They're made of paper now compared to when I first started.

[wheat vigil]

Doom Hunters now take full damage during their sled destruction animation

I'm fairly certainly the sled explosion damages them - but I'm not sure by how much

[cyan sorrel]

when i do 1 cycle pb grenade double lockon on marauder sometime the second lockon got delay ( didnt get the speed up second lockon from swapping PB to RL)
anyone used to experience this know what the problem here ?

[empty basin]

You're probably doing the tech incorrectly, try watching this video guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw

[young mango]

it does not

it is purely visual

[cyan sorrel]

ok thanks i know the problem now , can do it mostly 8/10 time
those fail attemp i probably still holding the mouse 2 on the second volley

[austere bronze]

the blood swamps slaughter map was really fun but felt more like a ML

[serene stone]

Buffed micro missiles on Doom Hunters are chef's kiss

Especially when you blood punch them atleast once during the buffed micro missile volley

[austere bronze]

only time I use micro missiles is when I accidentally equip them instead of PB

[serene stone]

Buffed micro missiles straight up ignore the Doom Hunter shields.

[austere bronze]

just feels like there are better options

[austere bronze]

oh, that's nice

[serene stone]

And they pretty much instantly kill DOOM Hunters, even when they're in "critical damage" mode

[serene stone]

I don't like the regular micro missiles, but the temporary buffed versions can melt basically anything nearly instantly.

[austere bronze]

how do you buff them now again?

is it killing an enemy with base fire?

[serene stone]

Yeah killing an enemy with base fire.

A lot of people don't know this but you can also shoot dead bodies with base fire before they disappear to buff them as well

[austere bronze]

that's neat

[serene stone]

During certain death states the "shoot at dead bodies" trick won't work though.

Like it they're gibbed or cut in half, or if their body exploded (I.E. Arachnotron)

You can't shoot an enemy that was glory killed/chainsawed/killed with any execution animation to buff it either

[unreal trench]

anyone on playstation for a few battlemode rounds?

[young mango]

4000/5000 damage dealt to phase 1 then 8 bullets, then 22 more bullets to finish off ( not a half bad strat if the meta wasn’t so broken )

[empty basin]

MM is also good against Icon of Sin

though the range limitations is kind of annoying on phase 2

[serene stone]

Bulldozer into double Arbalest tech. Eezy clap

[young mango]

why arbalest in specific 😭

[serene stone]

Idk double Arbalest is fun

[young mango]

also current patch doom hunters don’t have iframes so I’m pretty sure the finisher isn’t necessary

[young mango]

idk tho, maybe their janky hitbox will make it so that it stops dealing damage after they enter phase 2 because you’d be bulldozing the sled

with a proper bulldozer you could very easily shred their plasma shield so you could probably get him that way

[serene stone]

Yes. It's so fun to kill Doom hunters during their "critical damage" animation

I like killing them so fast that they don't even have time to even begin saying it

[gaunt spoke]

1/10 what yall think of doom

[young mango]

6.0-6.4 their iframes take even longer than before

[serene stone]

It sucks because it isn't actually Eternal

-2/10

[gaunt spoke]

ok, and eternal 1/10?

[serene stone]

I thought you were talking about the series 😭

[gaunt spoke]

whoops

[serene stone]

The original? Or the 2016?

[gaunt spoke]

Og

[serene stone]

Episode 1 is incredible.

Episode 2 is really good too.

Episode 3 is okay.

Thy Flesh Consumed is a mixed bag with high highs and low lows.

If SIGIL 1 and 2 count those are phenomenal, and elevate the original a lot.

So probably between an 8.5 to a 9/10

[gaunt spoke]

For how long have you known/played doom?

[serene stone]

If SIGIL counts then it might even be a 9.5/10

[serene stone]

I first started with DOOM 3 like.... IDK 12 years ago or something

But it turned me off the franchise because I didn't really like it

[gaunt spoke]

WOW

[serene stone]

But then a miracle happened....

DOOM 2016 was a thing, everyone was saying it's amazing, but the trailers to me looked a bit off, so I gave DOOM another chance and then I started getting into DOOM with 2016.

[gaunt spoke]

I myself only started doom eternal last year on ma ps5

[young mango]

I just play tested this shit, their plasma shield is impervious to shield dash damage for some reason

[gaunt spoke]

so yea im pretty shiat

[serene stone]

I think buffed micro missiles are the only things that can ignore their energy shield to my knowledge.

[young mango]

Infact, first phase doom hunter doesn’t take damage from bulldozer no matter what

[serene stone]

And when Eternal came in 2020 , that became the second DOOM game that I really started getting into

At first Eternal was even my favorite game ever from like 2020-2022

[serene stone]

That's rad. Always cool to start somewhere

[strange gale]

heat blast, sticky bombs, blood punch, and crucible are also redirected to the sled

[serene stone]

Oof I meant in terms of guns, not melees

[strange gale]

which is irrelevant, the shield isn't being ignored here

the damage is just being redirected to the sled while the body takes no damage

[gaunt spoke]

And now, i have bought doom eternal on my pc (the deluxe edition, via Eneba)

[serene stone]

But yes blood punch is super overpowered against DOOM Hunters

Basically trivializes them

[strange gale]

that's just quickswapping in general

[serene stone]

Quick swap/punch swap with a blood punch or two thrown in, Doom Hunter big ded

[serene stone]

Yeah I'm probably one of the only.... IDK, like 5 people in the world or something that started with DOOM 3 lol.

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1233352097215283300/Untitled_video_20.mp4?ex=662cc826&is=662b76a6&hm=fef1380df7df106d90f1d867bfd7ecc65f1c18161f5f88d92b0298a7795d482f&

goated with the sauce

[strange gale]

the joys of current patch

[young mango]

keep in mind TAG2 unrestricted would be most optimal for current patch if they didn’t add an additional wave to reclaimed earth

imagine shit like this being done in a speedrun as opposed to having to wait like 3 seconds because of them making the iframes even longer on 6.0-6.4 for some reason

also I hate that glitch in older patches where the dossier music would persist in the actual level and the only way to get rid of it was to leave the game and reenter

[strange gale]

the removal of dh iframes warrants the removal of chainsaw iframes 🌝

how about this: no cc in exchange for no iframes

[young mango]

also they made ramp hops way easier, like you don’t need to even time it differently anymore, you can get them while bunnyhopping now

shits so wack, current patch has so many advantages just in its mechanics but the sheer amount of stuff they patched out in exchange makes it not worth it for pretty much any speedrun category besides master levels

[serene stone]

Bulldozer is just Kiryu beast mode

[serene stone]

Have you played any other since then?

[gaunt spoke]

No i actually havent

Am now playing the Exultia level btw

[pearl viper]

What even just happened??

[round beacon]

yea lol crazy

freeze bomb blood punch, sheild bash, sheild launch

[pearl viper]

I wanna learn to do that +-+

[young mango]

ice bomb + bloodpunch ( 5000 damage exactly, because frostbite ) then an energy shield bulldozer for the second phase to finish him off

[pearl viper]

Just... delete

[young mango]

doom hunter is completely impervious to bulldozer in its first phase for some reason

[pearl viper]

Then why do people use that on the sled

[round beacon]

probably cuz his upper hitbox is wider id guess

[pearl viper]

I usually just meat hook up to it and slap it and then back up real quick to ssg ballista

[young mango]

idk I’ve never seen that, but personally when I was testing it, it would do the damage animation on the shield as if I was dealing massive damage, I was getting the sound cue, and it did it as normal, but it just didn’t do anything

maybe something about the doom hunter changed between 6.4 and current patch idk

something I have not tried yet is hitting him with the hammer first, maybe that’s another factor

[pearl viper]

I sometimes see people shielding and bullying, maybe they just don't know it does nothing.

[young mango]

bashing an enemy with a shield isn’t the same as what I just did in that clip

[pearl viper]

Ever seen the marauder get shot from demons behind and just sit there with his shield up?

Oh, you're talking about throwing the shield?

[young mango]

no, bulldozer, it’s neither of those things, it’s a glitch where the game confuses your dash state for energy shield and walk state so it kinda makes both happen at once and deals 200 damage every effective frame

Also I just checked, he loses his invulnerability to bulldozer if you hammer him first

[pearl viper]

Ooh, is something I probably couldn't pull off.

[young mango]

you probably could

it’s just prepping it ( opening the weapon wheel until it reaches full timeslow ) and then after that it’s prepped until a checkpoint is loaded or level is changed. Then all you have to do is dash into an enemy and pull up your shield at the end of your dash

[pearl viper]

Wow that's a weird glitch

I might try to do it after my breaksticks get used to the new controls

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1233370092054511727/Untitled_video_21.mp4?ex=662cd8e8&is=662b8768&hm=723256b43ab0788559371a32d8c35e401cdeeda598fd6ab026ce3375c8ce4a77&

also this isn’t just because of notarget, I’ve tested it, it literally kills him so fast he doesn’t have the time to say “critical damage”

but to be fair so does ssg punchswapping him to death

[pearl viper]

omg

[young mango]

also I just tested it out, normal shieldbashing doesn’t do any damage either

[round beacon]

What.

i needa learn this lmao

[pearl viper]

I sort of understand it, but I don't think my brain has caught up yet

[round beacon]

oh yea btw how do you set up these custom things

[pearl viper]

Something with the console

[young mango]

meath00k, the file Is called “XINPUT1_3.dll”

[round beacon]

is that like some popular mod things?

[young mango]

I wouldnt call it a mod, it doesn’t function that way anyways, it just unlocks the console

[round beacon]

oooo

[pearl viper]

On PC, you can even accidentally hit the ` button and bring it up

It's gotten me killed so many times

[young mango]

there is a way to stop that

[pearl viper]

I'd love to

[young mango]

DESRU ( the speedrunning utility ) has the ability to rebind the tilde key to ctrl + shift + tilde making it very hard to accidentally press

there’s no crazy instructions for installation or anything either, you just kinda install it, do it’s rudimentary set up, and then launch it before doom eternal and it just works

[pearl viper]

Oh, I've just been popping the key out. I didn't wanna have to run another thing

[young mango]

okay

[pearl viper]

When I get ready for mods, I will tho so thank you

[young mango]

cool

[young mango]

for the longest time I didn’t know how to bulldozer and idk why

[empty basin]

Speaking of DH and notarget, something about how their sled works makes it so that they can't be glory-killed when the cheat is on

[pearl viper]

I kinda still don't, I don't really use the chain gun often yet.

[lofty estuary]

... wtf just happened

[young mango]

funni bulldozer

I really need to write an explanation on how it works to copy and paste along with a bunch of other stuff so I can stop paraphrasing

[pearl viper]

lol

[lofty estuary]

i gotta try that move

[pearl viper]

I'll read it when you do

[young mango]

I’m working on making a new document from the ground up because the one in pinned I feel I was inexperienced when I wrote

I’ve barely started, I got the introduction out of the way and I listed 3 movement tech in depth but that’s about it

[pearl viper]

I know how that feels :3 best of luck

[jovial berry]

Cheese?

[pearl viper]

yee

I use cheese in place of hearts

[jovial berry]

Doom cheesternal

[pearl viper]

Cheesyternal

x3

[jovial berry]

(it's not an insult)

[lyric lodge]

Cheese Eternal

[tacit aspen]

I haven't even thought of that, that's such a simple but effective idea

[jovial berry]

Doublecheesyternal

[jovial berry]

O my Gosh, a new McDonald Burger!

I'm genius

[pearl viper]

Glad I could help ^-^

That was a good one lol

[tacit aspen]

Yeah thanks! I had this problem so often as well, and this is just brilliant

[lyric lodge]

btw if you need someone to do your deeds im right here bro just give me the info i need

[young mango]

hey man i appreciate the offer but by the time i gave you sufficient information i might as well have already written myself, i try hard not to pad for words

[jovial berry]

Destroy the world?

[lyric lodge]

ah, makes sense. good luck bro i'll be there to read it fr

[patent pond]

Factual

[pearl viper]

I'm doing way better with my keybinds now. I'm able to do any of the levels in main on nightmare without too much trouble. I think that's progress.

[lyric lodge]

it is

its very good progress actually

[pearl viper]

:D

[patent pond]

Nice

[pearl viper]

I still don't feel like I'm as good just yet as with my old keybindings tho, but I'm getting there. My fingers still get confused and slide all over the place on occasion

I also feel now like Ballista on C might have been a good choice.

[austere bronze]

eyy, nice

[patent pond]

Factual

[lyric lodge]

sounds like an awesome choice ngl its close and doesnt effect movement

[pearl viper]

I've noticed with HCannon on E, SSG on F, and Ballista on C, I can snipe the marauder and go into SSG Ballista combo and finish him in like 2 cycles.

[patent pond]

Nice

[austere bronze]

I'mma just say my weapon binds for no reason

[pearl viper]

yee

[austere bronze]

heavy cannon: E
rocket launcher: Q
chaingun: TAB
CSG: T

oops, accidentally pressed enter without shift

[patent pond]

I personally just play on controller

[lyric lodge]

T is crazy far

hc and rl on q and e sounds so harmonious like its paradise

[pearl viper]

I'll list what I have so far if anyone want it

[austere bronze]

SSG: scroll up
ballista: scrol down
plasma rifle: 2
hammer/crucible: V

no idea where I have BFG

[lyric lodge]

you can still have 2 or more keybinds depending on if you use crucible tho

L3 is left opened and mission information is pretty useless so

[patent pond]

But like for which controller specifically because I play on PlayStation

[lyric lodge]

weapons on the scroll sounds very uncanny lmao

[austere bronze]

eh, it gets the job done and I barely use it anyways

[lyric lodge]

playstation. top dpad for weapons with the claw grip is PURE paradise

[pearl viper]

I had to put my crucible out of the way because I kept hitting it

[lyric lodge]

i suppose you dont pb sticky alot then

[austere bronze]

why?

[patent pond]

Four or five?

[lyric lodge]

idk i just imagine jump or punch on the scroll wheel most of the time

[austere bronze]

nope, I punch cancel PB usually to clear fodder

[lyric lodge]

ps5 but theres no difference so

[austere bronze]

fair enough

[patent pond]

Okay well I need to try that

[austere bronze]

it is

[lyric lodge]

i have ballista on R3 but ssg is a good option too

[patent pond]

I just usually spam super shotgun when I need to

It's also kind of my favorite weapon so I use it more than any other gun in the game

[pearl viper]

Shotgun 1
cannon E
Plasma 2
Rockets R
SSG F
Ballista C
Chaingun Currently 7
BFG Currently 8
Chainsaw Z
Crucible H
Flame Blech Scroll down
Granades Scroll up
Switch Grenades Tab
Switch mods Shift
Dash CTRL
Melee Q
I think that's everything

[patent pond]

Damn

[lyric lodge]

what diff bro

[patent pond]

Exactly

[pearl viper]

If I spam SSG, I just do punch tech now

[austere bronze]

why do you have chaingun all the way at 7?

[pearl viper]

Because I don't know where I want it yet

[strange gale]

so zased...

[patent pond]

Now listen I'm no keyboard player but I'm going to have to agree on him why is chain gun 7

It's like on the other side of the keyboard

[pearl viper]

I need to give it a key and haven't yet because I'm working out the other guns placements first

I'm thinking it might go on T or 3

[patent pond]

You can always just use the weapon wheel if PC has the weapon wheel

[pearl viper]

It does, but I don't have that bound to anything

[patent pond]

Oh

[austere bronze]

it has but weapon wheel slow and no quick swapping

[pearl viper]

I wasn't going to use that anymore

[austere bronze]

aight

[pearl viper]

The weaponwheel button is also the quick switch

If I'm binding every weapon to it's own key around WASD, it defeats the purpose

[patent pond]

I just use the weapon wheel all the time but I might start using the quick switch more

But the weapon wheel is a little bit faster on controller when it comes to switching

[pearl viper]

You should, it's fast damage

If you tap the wheel button, I think it'll be quick switch, I've never played on controller, but I'm pretty sure it's the same.

[patent pond]

The weapon wheel is easier not as fast as quick switch but the weapon wheel is easier on controller

[pearl viper]

I used to just use scroll to cycle through weapons and use whatever popped up

It worked very well, but I couldn't go from SSG to snipe because the plasma was in the way of the scroll

[austere bronze]

it's harder to quick switch but way better

[lyric lodge]

what? quick switch is 10x easier. its just pressing a button

[austere bronze]

oh yeah, true

[patent pond]

The snipe? Don't you mean the heavy Cannon scope mod

[lyric lodge]

keybinds

[pearl viper]

You just need to get the rhythm down

[pearl viper]

Ya, I know what it's called, but the action it does it snipe.

snipe, quick scope, all that

[patent pond]

Factual I'm just not used to people calling it snipe

[lyric lodge]

its just called pb for short

[pearl viper]

or PB

peanut butter :3

[lyric lodge]

2 letters over 5 letters

[pearl viper]

either way, I don't care how many letters I have to hit to convey what I'm talking about, but that's probably why I'm even key binding the game like this in the first place :p

[patent pond]

Yeah!!!!!!

Peanut butter flavored vape

[pearl viper]

That exists

[patent pond]

I know

[pearl viper]

But I can't help call it a sniper sometimes because I played a lot of Borderlands before all this and guess who I was on the team :3

[patent pond]

Doom eternal flavored vape

Cacodemon blood looks like the blue Hawaiian Punch change my mind

[pearl viper]

It's Trix Yogurt

[patent pond]

Every time I kill a cacodemon it makes me thirsty for Hawaiian Punch

[young mango]

after a bit of procrastination I finally got a section on miscellaneous jumó tech done

[lyric lodge]

Yippe

[placid robin]

how do i not get annihalated in nightmare horde mode

[austere bronze]

because there is an insane amount of extra lives

[young mango]

38 if everything is done

[placid robin]

what?

[young mango]

meaning even if zero restocking is done, you still have 8000hp you can completely throw to the wind, you can take the highest damage attack ( that I can think of, which is a cacodemon bite ) on nightmare like 45 times in a row

not factoring in restocking or the temporary invincibility said extra lives give you

[patent pond]

Factual

[placid robin]

hm

[nocturne lynx]

Don’t lose Extra Lives? No one here can really give any actual tips with no snapshot of experience to look into.

But if you haven’t already you might want to do "TAG 1" on NM to strengthen yourself a bit.

[patent pond]

Do you guys think Doom guy likes his pizza with bones or boneless?

[placid robin]

sigh

yeah that seems like the death of me
oh lmao

[exotic swan]

I’m trying to find a match (I’m the slayer) if anyone wants to join battlemode

[austere bronze]

Oh mb, I thought you wondered why you didn't get annihilated

Aint really much to it except for getting good normally and getting all extra lives

[placid robin]

i lost it all to the fucking uhh maykr thing (not the drones)

literally the third wave from the first arena fight

[placid robin]

the one that gets one hit by headshots from ballista and stuff and that is invincible most of the time

[austere bronze]

Blood maykr

Blood maykrs are annoying but really good for ammo

Depends a lot in what context you face them and when if they are good or annoying

[placid robin]

well long as you have heavy cannon or ballista its fine

problem is the automatic shotgun is not that

[austere bronze]

Yea, I've also noticed that the shotgun isn't the heavy cannon or ballista

[storm field]

sticky bomb to his head

[jolly kernel]

anyone noticed that the Whiplash and Prowler have this exact same glory kill animation?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1233460477594570863/same_glory_kill.mp4?ex=662d2d16&is=662bdb96&hm=45dd60b3a7358092c7114b6c737a2ee3be72ebc9d4626ed3239ae3d07a18037e&

[glossy warren]

🤷

[placid robin]

that.. works?

[robust geode]

Hello, finally a can join to this comunity. I love Doom saga

[storm field]

That works

[placid robin]

allright :3

[austere bronze]

Welcome!

[slow sigil]

tbf it's a fucking good one

[robust geode]

Thanks 🙂

[vagrant owl]

in ur opinion what is better tag 1 or tag 2?
@serene stone

[austere bronze]

You didn't ask me but I think tag1

[hidden dagger]

https://youtu.be/J2JvuuEStXI?t=2

[jolly kernel]

I find interesting that completely different enemies with different body structures have the exact same animation though

usually, characters in a game only share the same animations if they have the same skeleton and similar body structures

[slow sigil]

the only important animations are the head reactions and the bone snapping

those seem to be close enough to fit without obviously warping after slight tweaks

[rapid moat]

Hello

[robust geode]

@rapid moat hello

[rapid moat]

Well to the doom community

[vagrant owl]

thank u for ur opinion

[manic frigate]

after losing my ultra nightmare consistently at the last boss fight makes me mad to a degree it shouldn't.

[placid robin]

awwh

[manic frigate]

four times in tag1 to samuel hayden

[storm field]

pb rocket or pb sticky

[manic frigate]

splash damage to their backs and sides til stagger or death

move and strafe, don't just stand infront of it

[placid robin]

silly

[jolly kernel]

someone said that their upper bodies look similar

[serene stone]

Plutonia

[vagrant owl]

alr

instead of playing doom 1 and 2 i will play plutonia

[serene stone]

But anyway TAG 1 , but Reclaimed Earth is cool

[serene stone]

Y

[marsh folio]

Guys i'm gonna start tag 1 and 2 since i've 100% main campaign

[spark gorge]

Good luck slayer

[marsh folio]

thx

[spark gorge]

Hell yeah

[opaque current]

Hello

[marsh folio]

hello

[halcyon remnant]

Should i do all games on UN

If the games doesn’t have UN ill do them on Nightmare without dying

If i die on any ill have to restart from Doom 1993

I might to Tag 1 and 2 if i habe time

[rose thistle]

I like how every game up to Eternal, restarting from the beginning on failure, is a given but the two short expansions for DE are "if I have time"

[slow sigil]

if you really want to ig
it doesn't really ad much more gaming experience compared to NM, if at all

[untold root]

@rose thistle go for it

@halcyon remnant go for it

I didn't mean to reply to adre

[rose thistle]

lol

[placid folio]

can someone please help me on the nekravol gate puzzle

I can't climb onto the spiked wall

[serene stone]

There's an invisible wall that prevents you from grabbing it, unless you ride the rising cages on the side

[vagrant owl]

@serene stoneyo man just finished tag 1 and for a dlc i think its very good

im curious about tag 2 now and about the dark lord or the "doom guy" from hell

this game is getting more and more interesting

[serene stone]

[vagrant owl]

@azure oriole
could you just help clarify something for me?
who hell is the dark lord or the "doom guy" from hell or are they the same thing?
just try not to give any major spoilers

[vagrant owl]

blud is smilling

[azure oriole]

The Dark Lord is the ruler of Hell. He and Doomguy are not the same - they just look identical.

Per TAG1's lore, Davoth (the Dark Lord in question) is the first being of Hell, or Jekkad as it was originally called. TAG1 claims the Father created him as a Primeval to lead one of his realms - TAG2 explains what the truth behind this is.

[vagrant owl]

after you explain everything i want to ask one more thing
is tag 2 smaller than tag 1 or is it almost the same thing?

[vagrant owl]

damn deep lore

[rose thistle]

Same size

[azure oriole]

TAG2 is a tiny bit bigger, as the final boss gets his own level unlike TAG1. But this is minute. They're basically the same size.

[vagrant owl]

damn i just dont want it to be small

doom ends fast u know

[vagrant owl]

ok ty man

[placid folio]

Can I replay a mission and do a secret encounter then abandon the mission or do I have to finish the mission so it counts

[azure oriole]

You can abandon it

[untold root]

Dark lord is doom guy but demon

[vagrant owl]

epic

[serene stone]

What's funny is VEGA straight up says "he is you. But in their world", and while it's not really the case, I just think it's funny that's what the Father said lol

[serene stone]

Fun fact TAG 2 was the only one that got a Master Level

[blissful moth]

Hi. I see this video of this guy than play the game on ultra nightmare settings with a 1050Ti 4GB 16GB RAM and i38100. I have 16GB Ram GTX 1060 3GB and i38100. How he can have a very low CPU compare with the one than I have and play on ultra nightmare settings, if the game dosen't allow change the graphics more than your GPU can run?

Video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3MmayFCfgQ

[vagrant owl]

vega became father

[serene stone]

I know. That's why I called him both VEGA and The Father

[vagrant owl]

i still dont know why he became the father because they dont speak english they speak doom's language

they say like "coconut killed the altist cult of akbark and dthe ruilty of the darkness just destroyed the power of the core"

average doom dialogue

[serene stone]

Cocodemon

[rose thistle]

Chocodemon

Cacaodemon

[spiral wraith]

[midnight bolt]

Crackodemon

[serene stone]

Cocademon

[spiral wraith]

Cocademon

[serene stone]

Colademon

[vagrant owl]

epic conversation

[serene stone]

Convodemon

[vagrant owl]

omega

[lyric lodge]

Condodemon

[serene stone]

Crapodemon

[untold root]

cacopet

[serene stone]

What's an Eternal mission that you thought was top tier but lowered a lot over time?

For me Arc Complex. It has some of the best fights, flow, and presentation, and the best music.

But the pacing falls apart after the kitchen/restaurant fight with all the lame elevator rides, turret cutscenes, tunnels, underground....until you reach the garage.

And it just feels a bit too long for its own good after the kitchen fight

[azure oriole]

That underground segment really killed it for me

I always skip it cause I just don't care

[serene stone]

But it USED to be my #1 Eternal mission for so long because the kitchen fight and Slayer Gate are god tier

[serene stone]

Yeah after the kitchen fight, I have began to just punch swap Ballista boost to the ending bridge.

[azure oriole]

My enjoyment of that level's music has also decreased quite drastically

[serene stone]

I like it, but Metal Hell and Gladiator are better

[azure oriole]

So zazed!

[serene stone]

You mean Zazman117?

[azure oriole]

Tbh most of the game's music fell off for me but I do find myself enjoying the dlc tracks a little more

[serene stone]

I agree. I only really like Gladiator mostly at this point for the Mick Gordon tracks

Reclaimed Earth is probably my favorite song in the game

At this point

[azure oriole]

That Hulshult I tell ya he can make some bops...

And Levy

[serene stone]

Also the Doom Hunter level, especially the boss fight is way too dubsteppy for my tastes tbh

[azure oriole]

I fw it

[tacit aspen]

I like them all. Every time I'm at work I listen to the OST, 2016, Eternal, the DLCs, and the remake of the classic tracks. It's randomized, pushes me to work faster, and get home sooner

[azure oriole]

video games cause road rage

[serene stone]

2016 OST still banger AF.

Especially sinceI haven't heard it nearly as much as Eternal's.

VEGA Core, Skullhacker, and Flesh and Metal are godly

[tacit aspen]

2016 is more aggressive I feel like

[serene stone]

It's more aggressive, bassy, raw, and experimental

[azure oriole]

2016's soundtrack felt more alive I think

[tacit aspen]

Rip and Tear vs Meathook for example

[serene stone]

Meathook is probably my least favorite DOOM combat song. It's so bland

[tacit aspen]

It's more groovy

[serene stone]

True, but Meathook always kinda reminded me of a more repetitive and not as lively version as TOTTFIY

[serene stone]

Yes indeed

[tacit aspen]

I love Harbinger. There's a mod which changes the DLC menu music into that, and I love it

[serene stone]

I love Harbinger too, but I love pretty much every 2016 track.

Also Rust Dust and Guts is like a more brutal, chaotic, and angry version of Metal Hell

Super Gore Nest is pretty cool, but it kinda reminds me of Rip and Tear, but not nearly as good somehow

[tacit aspen]

The Stench always makes me jump, no matter how many times I've heard that sudden loud noise lol

[serene stone]

Also Damnation and the Hell choirs are the most badass Hell music out there

[tacit aspen]

They are.

In the beginning I didn't like the music of SGN, or Immora. Now I do

[serene stone]

Skullhacker has the sickest riff in a DOOM game bar none.

In my opinion

[tacit aspen]

Skullhacker is a fantastic track

[serene stone]

I also love Lazarus Labs as a level. Which is funny because for the longest time I didn't like the level much, but I love the level now

[tacit aspen]

Not a fan of Olivia's Doom

[serene stone]

Hmm?

Oh the track? I don't think I remember that one

[tacit aspen]

Yeah the track.

[serene stone]

Is that the ambient track that plays in cutscenes?

I thought it was pretty cool, atleast in game

[tacit aspen]

I'm not sure where it plays, I have around 50 hours in 2016, and still didn't finish it since I find it hard to get back to it after Eternal

[serene stone]

There was a time where I thought it was hard to go back to, but when I ended up finishing the game, I started liking it a lot more than I used to, and Eternal started making 2016 feel like a brand new game again because of me applying cracked quick swap combos and Gauss boosting to my gameplay

So Eternal eventually made me appreciate 2016 even more if that makes sense

[tacit aspen]

It does

[serene stone]

But also wow 2016's glory kills and chainsaw kills are so much crunchier, more brutal, and satisfying.

Same for the weapon sounds.

Though I do prefer Eternal's plasma rifle and grenade sounds

[serene stone]

Especially the multiplayer exclusive glory kills and chainsaw kills like damn

[tacit aspen]

I just love the Ballista, and I came to appreciate the chaingun shield more than I thought

Also photo mode, and I admit I'm a sucker for ray tracing, lol

[serene stone]

Punch swap Ballista boosting is so fun

Especially combined with b hops with it

[tacit aspen]

Which I still can't do. 577 hours in, just checked, and still pretty clueless about techniques

[serene stone]

I liked how 2016 photo mode has more free camera, but you can't see Doomguy himself unless you have the hologram activated lol.

But Eternal has the emotes/poses and more filters

[tacit aspen]

Yes that's true. Also I find myself playing with visual mods a lot in Eternal

[serene stone]

Also for some reason 2016's photo mode straight up kills you if you stay in it too long

But you can also skip to encounters, skip to bosses, or trigger checkpoints with the 2016 photo mode, so it's basically a cheat code at times lol

That's probably why Eternal doesn't have as much free camera, to prevent those exploits

[tacit aspen]

Right now I have 45 mods installed... they gathered up, haha

[serene stone]

Speaking of visual mods. One of my favorite mods is the one that makes the 2016 Praetor look more like how it did in 2016.

The 2016 skin always looked so off in vanilla Eternal.

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233630654269489203/20240414045840_1.jpg?ex=662dcb93&is=662c7a13&hm=11400d725f3cfa294d108635b079fd53bfe616bd8e4e5a2a5905d0bc8fdd5324&

For example

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233631131497140318/20240416155606_1.jpg?ex=662dcc05&is=662c7a85&hm=6abf526d266ba30af50572cbedf11fdb801cd4a258810c06c8fb67634d692dba&

[serene stone]

That's pretty cool.

That Doom Hunter color scheme is so much more appealing

[tacit aspen]

It's demons in the style of 2016

[serene stone]

Yeah I see the 2016 Revenant, but I'm not sure what a 2016 Doom Hunter would actually look like.

But yes, dope mod

[tacit aspen]

The tyrant is more inspired by the cyberdemon, the whiplash is darker and has green plarts too

I still haven't taken photos of them all

Only got that mod just recently.

[lyric lodge]

Bro might be bane

[serene stone]

I wish the 2016 Harvester came back.

It's so weird that Eternal brought back the Prowler from 2016 MP, but not the Harvester as well

[tacit aspen]

https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/398?tab=images

Samur gets turned into the Harvester

[serene stone]

Lol, the Eternal hybrid with the 2016 Manc looks funny

[tacit aspen]

I love it

[azure oriole]

he likes pizzaless bones

[patent pond]

It took you down long to reply

[tacit aspen]

I only didn't install the mod which changes the gargoyle because then you just can't see them

[serene stone]

Tru, the Cyber Mancs in particular looks awesome

I remember the gameplay trailers for Eternal having a silver Cyber Manc color

[azure oriole]

i just saw this

[tacit aspen]

The archvile is amazing. His energy waves are completely red, if I remember right you can choose between several versions

[azure oriole]

please get off my back <3

[serene stone]

Nice. I love the Summoner's waves

[tacit aspen]

Also got "gritty Doom" which tones down all pickups. Chainsaw fuel for example doesn't really glow anymore. And I know how important those are for gameplay but my demon drops are invisible. You can still hear them when collecting but my game isn't as rainbow-ish

Some sounds are not as loud (Blood Maykr e.g.)

[serene stone]

Good, I always thought they were way too loud. Same for the Marauder dogs lol

[tacit aspen]

Yeah

Even my partner who doesn't play Eternal, or any fps games at all, knows that howl and shouts "Marauder" when that dude summons that dog, lmao

[serene stone]

Lol

https://youtu.be/ysklAiBvks4?si=uTpszxWeK_75mPsy

The mods on this channel looks so damn cool

[tacit aspen]

When I see shit like this I wish I was actually good at this game...

I've played through the campaign on Nightmare and it was such a grind, then I tried UN, managed the first level Hell on Earth, then I went back to Hurt me Plenty since I just wasn't able to get through the next level, always died in the same arena, lost my energy and endurance.

I feel comfortable on Ultra Violence, did that in Extra Live mode easily butNightmare is a huge step for me

[azure oriole]

What the deuce this looks nuts

[serene stone]

Shit like this makes you wish this game had official mod support

Funny enough I don't think I ever tried Ultra Nightmare. The game got too much jankiness for me to deal with that LOL.

[tacit aspen]

Too many bugs

In the SGN ML I once got softlocked right before the three archviles, that was frustrating. No option to load the last checkpoint either, so I was really done with Eternal on that day, lol

[serene stone]

Oh yeah, I found Arc Complex the worst level in the game for soft locks lol

[tacit aspen]

With all those prowlers I guess

[serene stone]

Soft locks probably 80% of the time

[serene stone]

Two fights that soft lock all the time are the breaking hallways right before you get outside....as well as the fight when you climb the plane.

[tacit aspen]

Also you know that secret encounter in Taras Nabad with the Marauder? One time he just didn't attack, had always his shield up. I had to restart the game

[serene stone]

Yeah and you can't save Master Levels or replaying missions either, and the missions are long as fuck

[tacit aspen]

That's true

[serene stone]

That sounds like typical Marauder behavior. The dude's AI is so inconsistent and dysfunctional lol

Also even faltering him can be very inconsistent haha

[tacit aspen]

"Best enemy" lmao

I can deal with those guys if! they behave

[serene stone]

And when he's possessed, he's extra extra extra buggy and dysfunctional

[tacit aspen]

In the blood swamps that Mara was hard for me on UV

[serene stone]

Yes. When he behaves, he's quite possibly the easiest enemy in the game

But he doesn't behave most of the time lol

[tacit aspen]

True

[serene stone]

He kinda behaves on the base game missions, but that's probably because he isn't typically thrown in the big fights or arenas with complex collision geometry

[tacit aspen]

The one which behaves the most I think is the very first one but then there are just zombies around who don't have ranged attacks

[serene stone]

I think Final Sin is the first time you really start seeing the Marauder's true jankiness and inconsistencies lol

[tacit aspen]

I've been there just 7 hours ago, lol

[serene stone]

Also I hate how enemies shooting him triggers his endless lagless wolf spam lol

Enemies don't even have friendly fire, why TF does he even block them lol

[lyric lodge]

Mf runs into walls and gets stuck then jumpscares me with a whole ass red glimstone arc from elden ring

[tacit aspen]

Yeah, Watched people play Horde Mode on Twitch (I can't do that myself), and there were so many wolves from the Marauder getting hit by shit

Proteh's Horde Mode

[serene stone]

Yeah he's "the inner machinations of my mind are an enigma" from Patrick Star as an enemy personified

[serene stone]

Also a problem in regular Horde tbh

Like the official Horde

https://youtu.be/28_GhG2Kl1s?si=3HH7MYPAHd3FJNBe

The perfect mod doesn't exi----

[tacit aspen]

https://youtu.be/YlQb8Q40sfI?t=3465

[serene stone]

Also this channel Giga Chad for rocking best skin "Ebony Praetor"

[serene stone]

Definitely pretty wild lol

[tacit aspen]

It is. And that was a World Record

I've watched it live :D

[serene stone]

Indeed. Very cool

What do y'all think of Urdak and The Holt?

[tacit aspen]

I mean the game itself is beautiful, I love the scenery, sky maps, demons, of course the Slayer but when someone is really amazing at it, it's just such a spectacle

[serene stone]

There's two arenas I really like on Urdak, but they end so fast

[serene stone]

Tru

[tacit aspen]

I'm struggling with those cyber mancs and the tyrant, whiplashes are there too, a buff totem

That arena.

[serene stone]

One of my favorite skyboxes is the Arc Complex one with the red sky and big ass tower

Also the golden sky of the Cultist Base and Mars Core Slayer Gates

[tacit aspen]

I like the UAC Atlantica skybox, with the thunderstorm in the distance

[serene stone]

Yes. Might be the goat, it reminds me a lot of 2016 with added beautiful rain effects

There was a mod with a red sky for UAC Atlantica, and it looked SIIIIICK

[tacit aspen]

Also the Mars Core, shortly before the huge portal. Flames going high up towards the sky

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233643257297109022/20231018221128_1.jpg?ex=662dd750&is=662c85d0&hm=67f64e0b6d013da6d26a7f52dbdcc132a22a6d491f86e13ba2506de49fba36b7&

[serene stone]

City of Hebeth reminds me a LOT of DOOM 3

IIRC it was actually a DOOM 3 reference or something

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233643426751447040/20231018221337_1.jpg?ex=662dd778&is=662c85f8&hm=c995a316b697cc5ede8244c9912c6eaaaef925b2db1a345bc684109000516a25&

[serene stone]

Gordon Doomman

[tacit aspen]

One of my favorite places for photo mode with just the Slayer

UAC Atlantica, he can have a very menancing expression
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233643832856285266/20231011140533_1.jpg?ex=662dd7d9&is=662c8659&hm=b5c1427fb4c90c5100ffdefde87b493536e95004f5b8bc8c663b40ab3ebea14a&

Was the wallpaper for my phone for some time

[serene stone]

I know he's not as true to Classic Doomguy as Quake Champions, but he has a cool face in Eternal IMO

[azure oriole]

Wish I had my series x when I was still big into photo mode I would've pumped out some bangers

[tacit aspen]

He has, so difficult to draw because the anatomy is off. The eyes are too far apart so that people can see them under his helmet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233644898335330344/20240414043639_1.jpg?ex=662dd8d7&is=662c8757&hm=9539f6181c694990353d7c9297f7afae8f514432a5bc6515ced4bcb3345b558b& heh

[serene stone]

Yeah, but in a weird way, it makes it cooler.

[tacit aspen]

Zombie Slayer was never meant to be shown without helmet haha. His hair is just a black area

[serene stone]

Doomguy right before the Divinity Machine patches him up

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233645427635785759/20240414045541_1.jpg?ex=662dd955&is=662c87d5&hm=21d49cc9e7f345562e61bf13bbc63ac49a2193eeb35fd8a11faa8ee2446db5df&

[serene stone]

Hulk Slayer

[tacit aspen]

Still so many details.

[serene stone]

True, they probably had the modders in mind who are going to remove the helmet

[tacit aspen]

I think so too

[serene stone]

But IDK why they didn't just give us the option to remove the helmet without mods lol

You need specific skins like Classic DOOM II Marine or Barbarian to see it in the unmodded game lol

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233646049097289808/20240417192953_1.jpg?ex=662dd9ea&is=662c886a&hm=4dff7a6a52dcc698a8ae88c4e879e5b5482856f196c93b0271ceb0d4df1e412d&

Went up with the resolution for this one

Open in browser and you'll see

[azure oriole]

They even went out of their way to tweak his facial animations when they started dropping helmetless skins

[tacit aspen]

Yep

[serene stone]

Yeah, and also him removing the helmet during the intro ... rather than putting it on

[tacit aspen]

I've found that so cool

I probably spend more time in the game with looking at stuff than with playing/fighting, lol

[serene stone]

Yeah I remember early patch TAG 2 ending he'd always remove the default Eternal helmet no matter what you wear. But then they fixed it I think

I noticed the gore effects look so much more detailed in photo mode than the gameplay

Photo mode Gore reminds me of 2016

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233647283875086416/20231010210243_1.jpg?ex=662ddb10&is=662c8990&hm=76b2c7e0cfd33fd4dfee5a8ec1ab2a00d681a73a52ee783efed15bd533c537c0& those red dots around the Slayer are those from the Slayer. He got hit and was bleeding, his body got bent

He was in pain

Such cool details, haha

[serene stone]

Yeah and the Slayer also sweats a lot during fights in photo mode

Atleast with the DOOM II skins

[tacit aspen]

Swimming is great too. I can't make photo mode work during swimming though but then I have ray tracing and can see what he's doing via reflections. It's very natural

[serene stone]

I replayed Super Gore Nest with the DOOM II skins today and there was so much sweat and it was quite detailed lol

[tacit aspen]

Well SGN is a hot map

[serene stone]

Yes

[tacit aspen]

It fits :)

[serene stone]

Indeed. It's cool they added those details

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233648709644976128/20231011140654_1.jpg?ex=662ddc64&is=662c8ae4&hm=68f51ac84b7529813800cb358947e47eb78f103a1e615b027d460821defc80bf& so wet he's shiny haha

[serene stone]

UAC Atlantica rain effects are such a marvel

[tacit aspen]

They really are

[serene stone]

And the water itself is beautiful too

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233649034418327653/20231011142214_1.jpg?ex=662ddcb1&is=662c8b31&hm=430ee6e0e77b5dc06b629afddaaf3cf6a1837ffd8718de98def1fb389a618220& sparks

[serene stone]

The water and rain remind me of Battlefield a bit

A better comparison might be the oil rig level in Crysis 3, thinking about it

[tacit aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183398655789649962/1233649331672973312/20231012160720_1.jpg?ex=662ddcf8&is=662c8b78&hm=a5693a20db349dd40e4e9882d08b87d329b0ada2833c13073201dcf92ffdf3d9& Flames in his eyes. Even that!

Yeah I think I really spend more time looking at stuff than really trying to get better. Lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1233650333524426793/20231106003116_1.jpg?ex=662ddde7&is=662c8c67&hm=d457d218cf0a5eb64f9e6bec89b170fe846291edba0c5468ecb021e58e96c75a&
I'll stop now

[serene stone]

Is the green variant your favorite version of the 64 skins?

[serene stone]

Dark Lord

[tacit aspen]

Possible

[tacit aspen]

Was Mars Core again.

[serene stone]

I was just joking because of the red eyes lol

[serene stone]

I think I might like the default 64 one the most

[tacit aspen]

Yah I thought so... There's another mod btw lol

[serene stone]

But the green Crusher version of DOOM II Marine is my favorite DOOM II variant

[tacit aspen]

I like the silver one

[serene stone]

The default one or the other silver one?

[serene stone]

Dead bodies remaining?

[tacit aspen]

No, play as the Dark Lord

I've posted some pics before, maybe I can find them

[serene stone]

Oh

I seen the mods where all the dead bodies stay from other people and it's so cool

[tacit aspen]

#screenshots message

Found it

[serene stone]

"Tell me... have you nothing to say to your creator... before you strike him down?"

[tacit aspen]

No

*after the stab

Right, I'll leave now. Overdue for some sleep. Was a fun conversation, have a great day!

[serene stone]

Indeed! good night and you too.

[left grove]

after 4 years am back

was heck of a time

[cyan sorrel]

Any mod that got spirit archvile

[austere bronze]

Do you mean archvile?

[cyan sorrel]

Yes I miss type

[austere bronze]

Alright, immora slaughter map has 2 of them, I think both versions of CBT atlantica has 1 close to the end, Delta's world spear ML has 0-2 of them depending on how quickly you kill the archviles, unbalanced tormented earth has 2 at the end and 1 I think if you choose not to destroy the totems that possesses enemies and unbalanced unreclaimed earth has 2 in the second to last encounter (idk about balanaced since I haven't played that one)

But why would you want to face possessed archviles?

[lyric lodge]

pain

[austere bronze]

There are probably way more but these are the ones I can think of from the top of my head

[lofty herald]

The doom eternal slayer Figma figure’s hands suck they don’t grab anything tightly and the equipment falls out of his hands

[young mango]

the archviles main weaknesses is that you can stop him from summoning if you break his shield ( which falters him ), and the fact that he has a decently low health pool, meaning once you find him you can stop him before he’s able to do anything

but when breaking his shield doesn’t trigger the falter he doesn’t stop summoning ( don’t quote me on this I don’t mess with that too often ), meaning he effectively becomes a teleporting buff totem with a lot of health

[empty basin]

Konvaz' TAG2 Rework also has one on Immora's second Escalation Encounter

[austere bronze]

Yeah, and that is really annoying especially when paired with other enemies and his pretty decent attacks

[rose thistle]

I kinda wish they were more threatening straight on. Maybe remove the buff effect in turn
But ig the old devil majicks zap attack wouldn't translate very well to Eternal

[empty basin]

Hitscan Magic Zap attack would be super annoying yeah

[austere bronze]

You reminded me that a master campaign for tag1 (don't remember who made it) also has one in UAC atalantica facility

[empty basin]

Should be Delta

[austere bronze]

Yeah that sounds right

[young mango]

I tried playing that master campaign once and encountered a weird softlock VERY early on

[young mango]

( this gameplay is from more than a year ago, I know it’s bad ) https://youtu.be/q8aONTioTho?si=dmrIynJjkZ1VHfYm

[strange gale]

you falter him by hitting the body like any other enemy, the shield's an extra step in the way

[empty basin]

huh weird lol I never experienced that

[austere bronze]

I just remembered 1 more possessed archvile encounter in at least unbalanced CBT atlantica pretty earoy on, not entirely sure about thr balanced version

[rose thistle]

Maybe they coulda done it so the lake of fire he spawns blows up after a while, conplete with his chest clutching animation
Maybe the lake could try and follow you too? Idk
The classic archvile is some really big shoes to fill. The new ones are at least still threatening in their own right.

[empty basin]

but a newer version of the mod was released 2 months after your vid so maybe the bug's been fixed?

[strange gale]

the joe biden staircase 🥹

[young mango]

wowie that’s when I used all the master level weapons and shit because I thought it was brag worthy, crazy to think that was only a year ago

[rose thistle]

I think in general the new doom formula struggles with making enemies as impactful as in the old games. You're so much more powerful in these games and resources are much less of an issue, you can take out pretty much any individual enemy in seconds if you focus on it, and any one particular new guy is never really a significant threat to the situation. Unless you do something particularly out of the ordinary with them like the Marauder.
Compare with classic doom where a single archvile or cyberdemon showing up during a fight could really be an oh fuck kind of moment.
The fact you can basically move in any direction you want now instead of essentially a 2d plane also changes a whole lot, of course lol

[austere bronze]

I use every ML skin that I have except for plasma rifle, not to brag but because I genuinely think it's the best skins I have

[lyric lodge]

The gold skins from the dlcs are better imo

But bloodstained on the ssg is unmatched tbh

[lyric lodge]

Power fantasy

[austere bronze]

I don't have that skin :/

[austere bronze]

I have all the gold skins but only use the one for the SSG since using all the gold skins feel like a bit too much and SSG is the only gun where I don't have a better alternative

[swift citrus]

Guys, please tell me, what is the name of the mod that increases the volume at the beginning of the monster's execution?

[lyric lodge]

Woah what? I swear i just got it from playing lmao

[austere bronze]

except for the ML skins I've gotten every skins from just playing too

for the SSG and rocket launcher I only have 2 skins not including the normal skin

[empty basin]

that's odd, the requirement is to just travel 850 meters with the Meathook

[austere bronze]

I definetely have done that

weird

[empty basin]

Sometimes the achievements/milestones for the game is buggy like that

I'd say just use the unlocker tbh
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1118

[austere bronze]

yeah ig

[pearl viper]

Would using any visual mods like reshaders or changing flame colors lock my steam achievements?

[young mango]

no

nor would mods that change the games mechanics, ID software really doesn’t care if you cheat in a single player mode

[pearl viper]

Well lol I'm not looking to cheat, but I love to play around with lighting

Also, what is this thing that pops up before the game launches saying something about disabling layers?

[young mango]

yea i know but I’m just saying, the rules are really lax, however having mods installed does lock public battlemode, but for some reason even if that is true you can still have eternalmodinjector have your console unlocked, i don’t think there’s any precaution against that but they can also ban you so yea

[young mango]

no clue

[pearl viper]

Well I absolutely don't wanna get banned from anything, so shaders would lock my battlemode access?

[young mango]

yes

[pearl viper]

kay then I won't install them

[young mango]

private matches are still very much accessible though

[pearl viper]

also, I'll put a screenshot of the thing in #screenshots

I always hit yes on that window that pops up so it doesn't freak out

[young mango]

if you actually wanna run reshade, press no

[pearl viper]

I only even have that for other games I have

I didn't know it just runs itself

After I unlock all the achievements though, I do kinda want to use mods, but I don't wanna get locked out of anything, but I'm guessing if I disable the mods before using battlemode it would be okay then?

[cyan sorrel]

Thanks I ll check it out

[cyan sorrel]

Just to suffer I guess
But yeah I alr know how to deal with the other prossessed efficiency, only archvile and doom hunter I haven’t faced yet

Oh yeah armored baron too

[young mango]

yes

just run the mod injector without mods in your folder or just verify file integrity

[pearl viper]

ty :D

[empty basin]

Restoring Backups is the fastest way

Press "Restore backups" (not "Reset backups") and your game will be reset to the vanilla state

[austere bronze]

Good luck with with possessed archvile, he's really annoying

Doom hunter is pretty easy and armored baron is just a really big inconvinience

[fossil dove]

Why did doom slayer take a random guards gun in the bfg chapter?

[austere bronze]

If you want to only face possessed archvile(s) you could spawn in spirits and archviles

[empty basin]

It's a leftover from the earlier stages of the game's development

It seems to be the intended section where the player first get the Plasma Rifle, and perhaps the levels' ordering were different back then

Or perhaps it was just a cool cutscene for the game's gameplay showcase pre-release

[placid folio]

can someone help me get the battlemode trophies on playstation?

[halcyon remnant]

Just beat gladiator on UN

[halcyon remnant]

Or if you didn’t pick up the plasma rifle in Exultia hell zone

[azure oriole]

can someone help me find the battlemode theme in the Doom Eternal OST on KHinsider?

[young mango]

going 5 levels without picking it up is cazy… also the game just places the weapon in the next level if you didn’t pick it up previously

[lyric lodge]

Is that why i constantly see speedrunners somehow having chaingun in arc complex

[halcyon remnant]

Im trying to do that without the optional pick ups so Plasma rifle, heavy cannon and rocket launcher

[young mango]

yes

[cyan sorrel]

Nah I prefer fighting him around while other still roaming around since I alr try fight him 1 v 1 in slayerpalast practice ground

[twin smelt]

is there a mod that reduces the time needed to switch weapons? it feels hella slow

or is it like an in game setting

[lyric lodge]

Punch

[quiet thicket]

https://youtu.be/3xCdqTdXCek?si=IUUFuSiBz6r2wxe2

[serene stone]

and suffering

[blissful moth]

Hi. It's possible change the time than I need hold the wheapon wheel key and the time than opens? For more faster opening of the weapon wheel? Iirc yes, but I forget where's that option. I play on PC btw

[placid folio]

Can anyone help me get the Battlemode trophies on playstation?

[lyric lodge]

Its in controls

[nocturne lynx]

ARC Complex is after SGN where you get it normally though.

Unless if I’m misinterpreting route stuff (probably am).

[austere bronze]

There is a preator suite upgrade that reduces the time

[young mango]

ironically it’ll end up feeling slower with a mod like that because even though bring up and bring down would be faster, it wouldn’t change the delay after you fire a weapon, making it FEEL slower, and not have much of a change anyways

[twin smelt]

I'm pretty sure I have it but it still feels kinda slow

[young mango]

? Arc is after SGN

[twin smelt]

Compared to some of the videos I see

[nocturne lynx]

…

Yeah I meant after.

Shut

[young mango]

basically if you miss a weapon it reappears in the next level, for two levels at least ( only weapon I’ve skipped and done a playthrough without is the chaingun ) and then it just kinda stops appearing

[nocturne lynx]

Is one of those spawns directly on the way though? Getting the Chaingun in SGN would probably cost ~10 seconds.

[young mango]

yes it being directly on the way is why it’s skipped in SGN in speedruns

also even if it weren’t a timeloss it’s still a risky thing to do because campaign speedruns are played on earlier versions when trying to be most optimal, dread knight pre 6.0 had a glitch where his ground slam dealt 3-4x damage

[austere bronze]

Those videos maybe use BATS then

[obsidian sun]

Of course

[coral turtle]

Wsp

[obsidian sun]

Actually, some weapons need less time to switch on them, in general it's because they are light weapons
If you strategically switch the correct weapons, you can quickly switch on almost any of them

[twin smelt]

oh so its different for each one

[coral turtle]

Tes

[twin smelt]

so its a matter of technique and not people using some third party programs?

[coral turtle]

Yes*

[twin smelt]

I see

[coral turtle]

Does any else use the doom 2016 suit I doom eternal or just me

In*

Any one wanna vc?

[runic marlin]

got the good bunny stance in eternal
the doom 2 master collection one

soo
can I use the stance with other slayer skins?
or just the Doom 2 marine

[obsidian sun]

Totally

[obsidian sun]

I use it sometimes too

@twin smelt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHQoaJz_YPA&pp=ygUYZG9vbSBldGVybmFsIHF1aWNrc3dpdGNo
If you want some advices about quickswitch combos

[twin smelt]

ty

[wary bridge]

Can You still get zombie slayer

[placid folio]

yes

If you join the Slayer's Club you get him

Anyone wanna play battlemode?

On ps5 btw

[serene stone]

General quick swapping got slowed compared to 2016...but Precision Bolt and punch swap techs can make it very fast

[austere bronze]

Pb punch swap🗣️🔥

[placid robin]

is there no crossplay?

[placid folio]

don't think so

[placid robin]

is it just me or is the dreadknight fucking op

or am i just malding rn my god (battlemode)

[rose thistle]

malding sorry

[serene stone]

Ballista punch swap and Ballista boost punch swaps doe

[placid robin]

;w;

[serene stone]

I heard they nerfed him

[placid robin]

guh

[placid robin]

how the FUCK do i do nightmare horde mode arena round 1 wave 3

i lost all my 3 lives to the blood maykr lmao

[austere bronze]

Plasma rifle punch swap is crazy good tho

[jaunty wigeon]

why is there no mouse and keyboard support in the console versions of doom eternal? it's one of the games that would most benefit from it

[serene stone]

BFG punch swap when?

[austere bronze]

Nah, we need crucible punch swap

[serene stone]

We need Sentinel Hammer punch swap

[austere bronze]

We need flame belch punch swap

[jaunty wigeon]

quake, quake 2 and doom 64 have it

[karmic fulcrum]

Unpopular opinion : Ancient gods 1 & 2 were complete and utter Trash.

[azure oriole]

Yeah nothing compared to battlemode, all of single player is bad. Yep

[serene stone]

The levels kinda felt way too long and full of weird gimmicks tbh.

But Blood Swamps and UAC Atlantica had cool moments

[placid robin]

is there a way to not automatically switch to the bfg?

like, id enjoy if i didnt waste my bfg after emptying my shotgun yknow

even doom 93 didnt get this wrong

[austere bronze]

Tag1 was good

Had really nice levels that were hard withoit being anything too crazy

Rn I can only think of 2 good things from tag2: meathook nodes and the world spear master level

[placid robin]

qustion

how do i effectively kill a marauder without a heavy cannon, ssg or ballista

[jolly kernel]

I actually enjoyed TAG 2

[jaunty wigeon]

uninstalling the game has a 100% success rate of killing all marauders instantly

[jolly kernel]

yes, it has the op sentinel hammer and the fights aren't as intense as TAG 1, but I still think it's enjoyable

[lofty estuary]

legit, my favorite level in tag2 is immora

[jolly kernel]

TAG 1's levels were way too cramped tbh

the arenas have a lot of tight spaces

[placid robin]

thanks

[jolly kernel]

what if the Marauder's sentinel hammer stun time was his normal stun time

[slow sigil]

Then he'd just be more boring without fixing any real issue

[jaunty wigeon]

marauders are one of the worst aspects of DE

even worse in later parts of the game and TAG because they throw multiple at you

i gave up on playing both TAGs for that reason

[jolly kernel]

the game never throws more than 2 Marauders at once lol

[jaunty wigeon]

1 is too many

[hasty wolf]

the doom doesn't even works after reinstalling

[jolly kernel]

and 2 Marauders at once isn't that hard

[hasty wolf]

ig i can't play it

[jaunty wigeon]

until you accidentally hit the one which didn't blink green and now you have to deal with a fucking dog going at you

[slow sigil]

Marauders are just boring and halfly badly designed for DE's higher level play, let alone their buggyneds

[jaunty wigeon]

now do that with a bunch of other enemies in a cramped arena

that's TAG right there

[slow sigil]

I mean that's kind of a non issue

[jolly kernel]

tbh, the Marauder DOES seem to be buggy and janky
I sometimes see him block shots when his eyes flash green

[placid robin]

wait they only spawn their doggo if you shoot their shield

[jaunty wigeon]

nah

the sheld is what spawns the dog and it appears if you shoot them when they're not "vulnerable" (green eye)

[placid robin]

...?

so it is shooting the shield that spawns them

[jaunty wigeon]

no it's shooting the marauder that spawns them

he only pulls out the shield when he goes to spawn the dog

the shield is not always visible so it's not obvious when you can shoot him

[placid robin]

yeah, so its shooting the shield

if shooting an invulnerable marauder makes him spawn doggos, then its practically you shooting his shield

[slow sigil]

Or if other demons shoot it

[jaunty wigeon]

what

[placid robin]

guh

[slow sigil]

Other demons can hit the maraudsr

[placid robin]

okay so shooting an invulnerable marauder makes him spawn his dog. alright

[placid robin]

well yea ofc

[pearl viper]

Apparently he'll also on occasion spawn a dog for no reason. I was running around looking for health when I'm guessing he got hit by another demon's friendly fire and he spawned a dog.

[serene stone]

Extremely buggy and inconsistent definitely. Especially the Possessed ones

[placid robin]

mfw i fight two possessed marauders that are also totem buffed cuz final wave in horde mode

[empty basin]

Nah the Possession Buff and the Buff Totem doesn't stack

[austere bronze]

They can't be both possessed and buffed and it's just 1 possessed marauder, no?

[placid robin]

okay it might be one buffed possessed and one buffed marauder im not sure

wait no you said smth else fuck

yeah im pretty sure it is just possessed not buffed too

but i recall it being both possessed though im not sure
still ass tho

[austere bronze]

A possessed marauder isn't that hard, just really annoying

[placid robin]

well two is annoying, especially if one or two are possessed

[austere bronze]

I even killed one with only sticky bombs which can't even stun him

[austere bronze]

Any marauder is annoying

[placid robin]

i lost 3 lives and wasted a bfg shot on a single marauder in the first arena round in the second.. world, area?

[pearl viper]

Pb can stun

[austere bronze]

How'd one marauder make you lose 3 extra lives?

[austere bronze]

Yepp, but for some reason can't if he's possessed

[placid robin]

not having a ssg, heavy cannon or ballista

[placid robin]

well possessed enemies cant be frozen either so

[austere bronze]

Just launch sticky bombs at the ground near him

[placid robin]

hm yes 2 damage at a time lovely

[austere bronze]

It's tedious but works

[placid robin]

yeah fair

[pearl viper]

Best thing to do is move around until you have a proper ssg shot and keep ssg+ballista and deal with the dogs if the splash doesnt restun

[austere bronze]

Well I took out a possessed marauder that way without losing any extra lives so you'll be fine on a normal marauder

[placid robin]

i just said i didnt have them
obv its easy with ssg and ballista

[empty basin]

It's because of the damage resistance he gets when Possessed, his Faltering system depends on how much damage you can deal in a single shot and the damage res makes a PB shot no longer enough to hit that threshold

[placid robin]

well i suck
also what was that on

[austere bronze]

Nightmare

[pearl viper]

Sorry, im not awake yet :p

[placid robin]

silly

[placid robin]

ah, yea i was playing on nightmare too

[austere bronze]

Ooh alright, thanks for the info

[pearl viper]

Hoard mode has thrown spirits at me before it's given me plasma

[placid robin]

is that a problem?

[austere bronze]

PB punch swap is really effective against normal marauders if anyone was wondering

[pearl viper]

Sometimes yes, isn't the microwave the only way to kill them?

[placid robin]

pb stands for the uh sniper shot (i legit forgot what the mod is called) right

[pearl viper]

Precision bolt

[placid robin]

WAIT YOU CAN KILL SPIRITS

[austere bronze]

Like, it's really good, I took out both the marauders in the SGN ML with obly PB punch swap

[pearl viper]

Yee, microwave beam mod

[placid robin]

[austere bronze]

Yes, and it's called precision bolt

[placid robin]

do they respawn or

[austere bronze]

You didn't know that?!?

[austere bronze]

Nope

[pearl viper]

Nope, you kill them, they don't come back

[placid robin]

I NEVER PLAYED THE DLCS OKAY

[austere bronze]

Oh, fair enough

[placid robin]

I DIDNT LOOK AT THE TEXTS FOR THEM I ASSUMED THEY WERE INVINCIBLE LOLLL

[pearl viper]

There's a message before playing hoard mode that its recommended to play the dlc first

[placid robin]

well hey microwave beam gets a usecase for the first time in ever

[placid robin]

well uhh im poor

[serene stone]

Oof

[austere bronze]

Would be fun to do SGN ML with only PB, but maybe that would be a bit too hard

[pearl viper]

Same, but steam has really good drops in prices sometimes.

[placid robin]

also, i played horde mode more than a year ago and only am starting now again

[placid robin]

thats what got me into doom modding and mapping (og doom) lol

[austere bronze]

I did do it with PB and sticky bombs but that was pretty hard so only PB feels very hard

[pearl viper]

24dollars for the all games plus DLC

[placid robin]

huh?

[pearl viper]

Yee

[placid robin]

if only i knew what sgn or ml ment

[placid robin]

wdym both dlcs cost 30 euro, 40 if bought seperately

[pearl viper]

Thats what i paid for it

[placid robin]

damn

[austere bronze]

Sgn= super gore nest and ml= master level

[pearl viper]

Wait for them to go on sale and get them

[austere bronze]

So it's the super gore nest master level

[placid robin]

oh fuck off i dislike super gore nest for one and ik that all master levels fuck(ed) me up
..havent tried them since i stopped playing more than a year ago tho.

ive only done taras nabad on 1up mode or whatever

[austere bronze]

I like master levels, they're fun

[pearl viper]

Master good weapon switching and traversal and the game will get easier for you.

[austere bronze]

And only PB SGN ML feels hard but doable

[placid robin]

yea i should try them again
i just dont want to cuz i know i cant beat them on like ultra nightmare

[placid robin]

i only know ssg ballista man

i can barely quickscope lol

[pearl viper]

Pc?

[austere bronze]

Practice PB quick switching then

[placid robin]

[austere bronze]

Personally, I love PB rocket launcher

It's absolutely goated

[pearl viper]

Pb rockets are fun

[placid robin]

yea im sure but augh

[pearl viper]

You just have to get the rhythm down

[placid robin]

also my god i hate going from doom 2s rocket launcher to eternal

[austere bronze]

Do them on nightmare then

[placid robin]

bro its just half the attack speed and less damage

[placid robin]

but no sweet sweet golden shotgun
alltough if it was the ssg id be grinding my ass off for that

[pearl viper]

That's why you spam them with pb rocket combo

Its stupid fast

[placid robin]

but everything go boom boom by holding left click in doom 2 its so simple

[austere bronze]

Agreed https://youtu.be/Zt1JmkecNE0?si=tEPqMJT3OuDkXH1B

[placid robin]

does it have higher dps than ssg and ballista btw

[pearl viper]

Yes

Its the highest damage combo

[austere bronze]

Except for pb SSG but that only works when close range

[pearl viper]

I love the sound it makes :D

[austere bronze]

Ssg?

[pearl viper]

Ya and then the PB ballista is for long range

[pearl viper]

Pb rocket

[austere bronze]

Yepp but I usually do ballosta punch swap cuz that's funnier

[pearl viper]

Lol

[austere bronze]

Oh yeah, 100%

Easily my favorite combo, mostly cuz of the speed

I'm pretty quick but I still wanna improve

[pearl viper]

Now that i have each weapon bound to a different jet around wasd, im able to do more thought out combos tho without relying on scoll wheel to give me next weapon.

[placid robin]

i just press 5 and 6 and then Q

[pearl viper]

I can either rip through an area with just 3 weapons or use them all at random.

[placid robin]

why not use 2

[pearl viper]

Because i really love using all of them

[austere bronze]

Because it's funnier with more weapons, some weapons are better for some enemies and it's better to use many weapons to save ammo

[placid robin]

fair

[placid robin]

just use infinite ammo bfg

on an unrelated note, how much damage does the base punch deal?

[pearl viper]

Like 1 damage

[austere bronze]

A few

[placid robin]

silly