doom-eternal

[unreal flare]

3 dollars?? Holy shit it's even lower than last sale

[pearl viper]

yee

[unreal flare]

It was 4 dollars last sale hot damn

[burnt thistle]

But I'm currently building a pc, once I get a new power supply for it then I can get doom 2016

[pearl viper]

I got every game for 24 dollars

[unreal flare]

3 dollars for 2016 is a fucking steal

[pearl viper]

If you're defiantly building one, you might wanna just spend the 3 dollars now

[unreal flare]

Good luck man 🙏 I'd love to build my own PC but I'm only gonna do that once my Alienware kicks the bucket

[unreal flare]

Honestly you should do just that, I don't think I've ever seen such a low price for that game

How much are the other Doom games right now btw? I can't check Steam

[pearl viper]

lemme see

[burnt thistle]

Fair enough lol, it's been an interesting experience, but make sure you check all your parts are compatible when you do lol, I didn't check and I had to go back and get it again lol

[unreal flare]

I'll just check with one of those sites where you can buy PC parts when the time comes

[burnt thistle]

Yeah that's a good idea

[rich lagoon]

My sons 9 and yea started with eternal

[pearl viper]

it's 33 dollars for all of them

[burnt thistle]

I started doom, like 3 days ago, and I was not ready for it lol, I've only just got the hang of it

[unreal flare]

Yo nice but that's more than last sale, wonder which game didn't get a discount. Probably 64 because this one tends to ignore discounts lmao

[rich lagoon]

lol same I picked up eternal this past weekend it’s amazing tho very different from anything else I’ve played

[burnt thistle]

That is a bargain

[pearl viper]

it is still

It's not 24 dollars, but it's still a great price

[unreal flare]

tbh isn't he a bit young to be playing gory games? I know you're the parent and I'm not but I don't think I'd let my kids play Doom Eternal at 9.

[slow sigil]

in eternal lore there is

also, the game straight up says the bible's heaven is inspired by urdak

[burnt thistle]

So, how many doom games are there all up?

[rich lagoon]

No I agree He’s not playing only watched a little when I started

[burnt thistle]

Doom is probably my new favourite game now, I'm not gonna touch anything else on doom until I finish the campaign

[pearl viper]

lol Good luck putting it down

[burnt thistle]

I don't think I will put it down

[pearl viper]

I haven't yet :3

[rich lagoon]

It’s funny I was deciding between this and borderland 3 and while this is more gory it has no sexual content or swearing so I thought it was the safer bet

[burnt thistle]

Doom is one of the games where at the start it is just way too fast paced and intense, and then you slowly get the hang of it being fastpaced

[pearl viper]

You become the fast-paced

[burnt thistle]

Borderlands is so good, I used to watch my dad play it all the time

[burnt thistle]

Exactly, you become the slayer

[pearl viper]

ngl, I'd ride into battle on Slayer's shoulder x3

[burnt thistle]

Lol

Guys what's your favourite doom?

[pearl viper]

Eternal

I did have lots of fun playing the others, but by far, Eternal is my favorite because of how fast it is and the controls feel nice and all that

[urban basin]

Yo guys so i was just killing demons then the slayer switched from guns to fist automatically and started killing everybody with fist and its not bloody punch since it had no cooldown how is this thing called like ultimate or smth? Also how do u get it like get 30kills in a short time or how?

[urban basin]

Eternal

[pearl viper]

You picked up the berserk perk?

[urban basin]

what

[pearl viper]

There's like 1 of them in the entire game. It makes the weapon disappear and you can just go into glory killing demons with one shot for like 10 seconds or somehting.

It's a red orb.

[urban basin]

Ok

[urban basin]

I dont remember it but i remember i picked up yellow orb in another level

[pearl viper]

You might've been in Mario's Resturant. Look that up and see if it looks familiar.

[unreal flare]

DOOM 2016

[pearl viper]

I'm trying out quick switch on different keys and the result does not look pretty 😭

[azure oriole]

Hi

[lyric lodge]

See thats the thing. New keybinds take time because its completely different muslce memory. A few hours in urdak quickswitching should help tho

[pearl viper]

I can't find a good button for it T-T I have it on E, but I have trouble moving left when I'm using it

[austere bronze]

A good button for what?

[pearl viper]

quick switch

[hazy coral]

am I the only one who switched controls on everything in eternal cus i was used to 2016 xd

[pearl viper]

A whole keyboard and the only place I feel comfortable with it is on E

[austere bronze]

You have multiple buttons for quick switching??

[pearl viper]

No, just E

[austere bronze]

Huh

You have each weapon bound to a unique key

[pearl viper]

The weapons are on default number keys, but I can't seem to make myself rebind them because I've used those in every game ever :p

[austere bronze]

Want to know my keybinds?

Just to get some inspiration

[pearl viper]

Sure ^^

Maybe I wont be terrible anymore

[austere bronze]

E: heavy cannon
Q: ssg
Scroll up: rocket launcher
Scroll down: ballista
CAPS: mod switch
TAB: chaingun
T: csg
2: plasma rifle

[pearl viper]

😭 I just had a Cacodemon eat like 3 arbalests and chomp me in half

[austere bronze]

F: punch
X: chainsaw

Rest is normal

[pearl viper]

What's weapon switching on?

oops.. somehow I've ended up inside the map

I'm in the floor

https://tenor.com/view/doom-revanant-gif-10462704

[austere bronze]

you mean the weapon wheel?

[pearl viper]

no, it's a button that just switches between the previous weapon and current

[austere bronze]

I don't use that

I have no button for it

I find it easier to just use the assigned buttons for each weapon

[pearl viper]

I hope I can even do that

Suddenly I've lost the ability to play at all T-T

[austere bronze]

I did that too when i first swirched weapon binds

[pearl viper]

No I mean even with mine

[lyric lodge]

Speaking of cacodemon i got jumpscared by one whilst dealing with a marauder

I cant fucking access the clip because ps app loves to randomly log me out

[pearl viper]

My game is glitching really bad this morning :<

[lyric lodge]

I wish my glitches were cute ass demons not attacking instead of me getting stuck into a ever living wall

[pearl viper]

#screenshots

I also just died and started the checkpoint with 7 health for no reason

I think I'm done

[lyric lodge]

Restart again

[pearl viper]

I'm gunna cry if this keeps up, I think I'm done :<

[austere bronze]

Might be a bad day

I too have those

[lyric lodge]

take a break or just start a new save slot

i find starting fresh gives me some skill back

[pearl viper]

I have been feeling bad all day, so maybe

I wanted to play battle mode but I'm just gunna get in the way of other players who wanna have fun with it

[slim wasp]

Talking about battlemode, the 200 kills trophy is only for players kill not fooders ?

[pearl viper]

it's player kliills

[slim wasp]

Damn, I'm far away

[pearl viper]

I'm at 27

[austere bronze]

Nah, there are players with 1 hour on the game playing battlemode so you'll be good

[pearl viper]

Everyone is on other levels than I am, I've played for a few days now. Every now and then I get lucky

[slim wasp]

I'm at 53 but there's not a lot of peoples, matchmaking take a while

[lyric lodge]

truly insane https://youtu.be/5bh5IADjcU4?si=WXqf5RPHJoLTxZnj

[pearl viper]

Caco sneak

[lyric lodge]

The 1cm missed ballista shot hurts so bad

[pearl viper]

https://tenor.com/view/foxplosion-fox-explosion-gif-23524330

Looks like we're both not having a good day with it

[lyric lodge]

ehhh i beat tag1 for the first time finally then went through all of tag2 until that clip

Im finna do all the escalation encounters in immora to make sure the demons are actually trying to win 😭🙏

[pearl viper]

The only thing I had trouble with was Tag1 boss

[lyric lodge]

That was easier for me than the arena with 3 mancubi, invisible whiplashes, 4 blood makyrs back to back, 3 barons and blah blah blah

Like genuinely bro that arena was rage inducing

Died so many times i know every fucking demon spawning in that arena now

[pearl viper]

I spent 3 full days in a room because of a possessed manc followed by an archvile

[lyric lodge]

Reclaimed earth? I just bfg'd the mancubus lmao

[pearl viper]

I didn't have any :<

[lyric lodge]

I wasnt tryna deal with another possessed mancubus after samur

[lyric lodge]

I had a full 2 cuz i keep forgetting to use it in previous levels lmao

[pearl viper]

I can deal with possessed anything else

I accidentally kept scrolling through and hitting BFG

[lyric lodge]

Speaking of which @young mango sorry for the ping but you know how to deal with possessed enemies without tech? Lobs barely kill them and theyre honestly insanely powerful, even a zombie

[lyric lodge]

thats why you gotta use weapon keybinds on pc

[pearl viper]

I can't seem to get used to those

It messes with my movement

[lyric lodge]

It'll work out. I got used to pb on top dpad pretty fast

[lyric lodge]

Place the keybinds around the movement keys

[pearl viper]

That's the problem, I have quick switch on E which works very well for me if I'm not moving left.

[lyric lodge]

Thumh on D index on E middle on W

Tbh a game like doom eternal can MESS with yo fingers on a keyboard now that i think about

[pearl viper]

It does..

[austere bronze]

Pb+ rocket spam (my go to method fpr basically everything)

[pearl viper]

I might also have to take the acrylic off my nails soon

They're not long, but I can feel less feedback with them on

I love PB rocket combo and I use it all the time, but It's just keeping my finger on E and needing to move left and/or jump is the only problem. I would put it on middle click, but I kinda don't have one of those

[austere bronze]

Try to just bind every weapon to an individual key and use those instead

[pearl viper]

The things that can't change for me tho are
R chainsaw
F Flame
G Grenades
CTRL dash
Space jump

I think if I bind PB and rockets to something that I have to use my index for, I'm goiing to have the exact same problem that I have now

[austere bronze]

Why can't those change?

[lyric lodge]

Man i feel like i never use pb rocket anymore lmao

[pearl viper]

Because those are my personal bindings that have been with me since Borderlands

[lyric lodge]

Attachment issues

[pearl viper]

😭 ya..

[lyric lodge]

Tbh doom eternal improved my overall controller skills

Back then i didnt even use my middle finger for R2 nor did i ever think a claw grip existed

[pearl viper]

F for Bloodwing, G for grenades, R to reload

[lyric lodge]

Alphabetical bro

[austere bronze]

You should change anyways

[glossy warren]

same

[lyric lodge]

Doom eternal is really a gamechanger as a 3rd game

[pearl viper]

Doom Eternal pushed my skill in other games to limits I didn't thin were possible, but today, I got killed by the possessed :<

[lyric lodge]

Shit had me so engaged i learned new shit about my own controller

[austere bronze]

I used to have E for heavy cannon and R for rocket laubcher because of really easy quick switch between them but now I changed rocket launcher to scroll up cuz of more consistent punch swap

[lyric lodge]

I remember struggling with an easy ahh game lile spiderman2(it was my first game on ps5 so eh but still) but when i revisited it after de i dominated ultimate like a champ bro

[pearl viper]

I might try scroll up for PB and down for rockets

[slim wasp]

I'm sorry to ask this here, it may have been asked a thousand times but can anyone help me with one online trophy please ? I don't know if it's against rules to ask that

[lyric lodge]

If i had de on pc i feel like bp on mouse wheel up and jump on mouse wheel down doesnt sound bad

[pearl viper]

My first real PC game without a controller was Minecraft and watching me learn wasd wasn't pretty

[lyric lodge]

dang well i at least had roblox for basic pc stuff 😭 except now my laptop is ass beyond measure

[pearl viper]

I've never played Roblox, but I feel like "ban the furry" is a past time they have over there since I see a lot of complaining about it

kid moderators

[lyric lodge]

the what now

never heard of that i only play peak

[pearl viper]

I'm in another server where some of the users play Roblox and they get banned for the dumbest reasons

[austere bronze]

Just try around a bit

Put your keybinds in a way that looks good and then feel if it is good

[pearl viper]

I will later, I don't feel like I can aim anymore at the moment :p

[austere bronze]

And change depending on how good the binds are

[austere bronze]

:/

Do you have aim assist on btw?

[pearl viper]

I was told that's not on the PC but I refuse to use that anyways

Yep, definitely have a problem this morning. I just picked up a dish to put food on and just let go of it :<
I broke it.

[lyric lodge]

damn.

[austere bronze]

damn.

[pearl viper]

I'm thinking pinched nerve again

[austere bronze]

Welp, time to get food and play doom eternal

[pearl viper]

I just ate half a sausage egg croissant sammich and the top bread was so hard I could kill an imp with it :<

[austere bronze]

Lmao

I'm gonna go for a swedish classic: billys pizza

[lyric lodge]

i could never

[pearl viper]

Angle monitor downwards
Cook steak
Put steak on keyboard
Chew steak off keyboard
Play Doom Eternal
Profit

[austere bronze]

Lol

I just cook my steak inside my PC

[lyric lodge]

nah but i cant imagine playing an ML whilst eating food

[pearl viper]

That's why combos exist. The food, not the action

[lyric lodge]

imagine quickswapping between your spoon and fork

[pearl viper]

Just hold the steak with foot and keyboard with hands

[lyric lodge]

petition for every game to have quickswapping i wanna quickswitch between my gadgets in spiderman 2

[austere bronze]

I'm gonna play a slaughter map while eating food (wayy harder than MLs)

Like I actually have real trouble with UAC atlantica facilty slaughter map

[pearl viper]

I played ml gore nest on easy and.. uhh... no

[lyric lodge]

Theres slaughter maps in de now 😭🙏

[lyric lodge]

Oof nightmare was a pain in the ass i couldnt even get through half of it

[pearl viper]

I don't know if I'd ever be able to do those

[austere bronze]

Yepp and they are NOT easy

[lyric lodge]

if i can do it on console you can do it on pc man

[austere bronze]

When did you start playing @pearl viper ?

[pearl viper]

I beat it on easy...

I don't know when I first played, but I have put in a lot of hours on pc game pass and then bought it on steam

[lyric lodge]

What even is easy man 😭🙏

[austere bronze]

itytd

damn, can't dowload mods rn cuz nexus is down :/

[pearl viper]

I feel like itytd is slayer invincibility

[austere bronze]

ofc I deleted my slaughter maps before this so I can't play them now

[lyric lodge]

i feel like fodders deal 10 dmg there i mean they have to right

[austere bronze]

enemies deal eight times less damage on itytd than on nightmare

[lyric lodge]

but no way i actually lost 74 armour to a singular caco blast

ultra nightmate is INSANE bro 💀🙏

[pearl viper]

Nightmare feels about right to me, but the sweet spot is ultra violence

[lyric lodge]

crazy how nightmare is 2x harder than UV

[pearl viper]

I don't usually have trouble once I get going, but today I literally got slapped to death by fodder

[austere bronze]

PB punch swap go brr on fodder

[pearl viper]

I punch reset sometimes, but if I try to PB right after the punch, the gun won't fire

I dunno if I'm doing it too fast or what, but the videos I've seen of people doing it are ultra fast

[austere bronze]

you have to press your bind for PB before the punch is finished

[pearl viper]

was puchSSG patched out?

[lyric lodge]

i got slapped by a gargoyle in UN because the snipe didnt want to fucking snipe

[pearl viper]

I have that issue all the time

[lyric lodge]

You need to shoot, punch press the weapon keybind then shoot

the weapon shi needs to be during the punch not after nor before

[pearl viper]

no wonder why it's never worked for me

[austere bronze]

I had the same problem for a while

[pearl viper]

I've been just punch, wait a sec, then fire

[lyric lodge]

i had the same issue before tammie enlightened me lmao

[pearl viper]

im gunna try it in the fortress

[lyric lodge]

i do it all the time for fun when waiting for a portal lmao

[pearl viper]

is not working for me still

[austere bronze]

feels so weird changing keybinds for the first time in like 200 hours of gameplay

[lyric lodge]

Shoot punch keybind DURING punch shoot

theres tuts on yt anyway

[pearl viper]

ya it just zooms in and does nothing when I do that

[lyric lodge]

Weird. You sure you clicking the keybind during the punch? Thats the main factor

[pearl viper]

I mean if this server had stream channels I could show you :p

[austere bronze]

upload a quick video to yt and give us the link to it

or I could upload one so you can see when I do it

[lyric lodge]

I would record ps remote play but they dont let you record 😔

[pearl viper]

I could upload a video in #videos

[lyric lodge]

Just send a yt link

[pearl viper]

I don't currently have a way to do that

[lyric lodge]

upload to yt

[pearl viper]

I put it in videos

When his arm is on screen, I'm activating the PB, but that's what I'm seeing

[lyric lodge]

Not much to see with no keyboard overlay

[austere bronze]

idk if it would help but I can put a vid of me doing it in there too

[pearl viper]

if it's no trouble

I'm gunna delete mine so I don't get bullied for bing terrible :p

[austere bronze]

nah, you definetely won't get bullied

[austere bronze]

I didn't even gte to see the vid 😭

[pearl viper]

..oh.. im sorry

[austere bronze]

true

[lyric lodge]

well his pb wasnt firing thats all

[pearl viper]

her*

[lyric lodge]

oh mb

[pearl viper]

I can't see what I'm doing wrong

there's a 15 minute slow mode in that channel T-T

[lyric lodge]

timing, maybe? you gotta find some sort of keyboard overlay man

maybe record your hand if thats more convienent

[pearl viper]

How do I get an overlay?

[lyric lodge]

uhm go on youtube

[scarlet anchor]

Hey I'm I've already beaten the game and just now working on getting the unmaker how good is on a scale from 1 to 10

[empty basin]

3

[pearl viper]

Never fired the Unmaker

[vale pebble]

2

[scarlet anchor]

Also weres the slayer gate in super gore nest

[vale pebble]

in the big arena in a sewer I think

[glossy warren]

if you face the gore nest in the big arena, on the bottom right there will be a bridge leading to the gate

[scarlet anchor]

Ok

[lyric lodge]

1

[austere bronze]

nexus is finally back so I can install UAC atlantica slaughter map again (:

[pearl viper]

Ya I can't recreate what you were doing in that video :p

[austere bronze]

you have to shoot PB, punch press your keybind for PB before the punch is finished and PB again

[cold olive]

quick question: can you use the extra life rune on ultra nightmare?

[austere bronze]

might be that there is some kind of weird mix up with or something

[austere bronze]

not 100% sure but I think it works once and then never again

[pearl viper]

If ultra nightmare is "die and start over from hell on earth" then it'll only work once.

[lyric lodge]

Saving throw? Yeah you can. It can even be used in a cheesed way

[scarlet anchor]

Where is the key

[pearl viper]

It might reset during each mission though, but I'd Google that to be sure.

[lyric lodge]

The key, slayer...

[lyric lodge]

Or you could load checkpoint by force closing the game and walah fresh saving throw

[pearl viper]

That could work maybe

[scarlet anchor]

I'm trying to find the slayer gate key on super gore nest

[pearl viper]

I just run into it accidentally each time. Keep progressing.

[scarlet anchor]

Ok

[pearl viper]

It'll be high up in the center area, look for purple.

[austere bronze]

so I get past a wave of 4 pain elementals, 2 possessed cacos, 2 custom tyrants that are almost like possessed ones, 4 revenants and 4 mancubus only to find out that it isn't the last one, and when I get to the last wave my game crashes

or I hope it's the last wave

[lyric lodge]

i feel you bro

dying to a fodder after dealing with insane amounts of hordes is rage inducing

its so fucking satisfying to see "checkpoint reached" after struggling with an arena for hours tho

[lyric lodge]

truly fills my heart

[austere bronze]

I don't think I've ever struggled with an arena for hours tbh

But I understand

[pearl viper]

how about 3 straight days?

[austere bronze]

The arena aint too hard, it's only that you can die so quick and when you do it takes quite a bit of time to get back

[lyric lodge]

shi got me so beat i started a fresh new slot to try and get into the right pace

[lyric lodge]

thats what hits me so hard fr the amount of work i did all reduced to nothing but ash

[austere bronze]

Yea

[lyric lodge]

I was doing so good in one reclaimed earth arena only to get stuck in the floor after sentinel hammering 😔

[lyric lodge]

got out but lost all my hp and died

[austere bronze]

I got through first 4 tyrants, 4 cacos, 4 pain elementals, 4 pinkys and 3 caecasses and then 2 possessed barons of hell, 4 pain elemntals, couple of whiplashes, 4 carcasses and something more I think that I'm forgetting

Then I get to that ave I mentioned earlier only for my game to crash on an even harder wave

[lyric lodge]

thats like 10m of work no way

[austere bronze]

Yepp

So at least 4 waves that just get harder and harder

[lyric lodge]

sounds like an escalation encounter

[austere bronze]

The one I was at now looked really hard

[austere bronze]

But with no checkpoints and way harder

[austere bronze]

It almost was like everything I mentioned combined lol

[lyric lodge]

escalation encounters have checkpoints before the 2nd part?

[austere bronze]

Yes

[lyric lodge]

damn

[austere bronze]

In offwines final sin ML there is an escelation encounter without checkpoints

That escelation encounter was the best part of the entire ML tbh

[pearl viper]

I just found a video that the guy is saying that I also need to hit the weapon bind key and punch to get it to work

[austere bronze]

That's what we've been telling you?

[lyric lodge]

I put during in caps too

[lyric lodge]

I dont get why id didnt add master levels for the final levels of every campaign

It just seems like a great idea yk

[pearl viper]

I'm sorry :< I don't think I understood until I saw his overlay and heard him say it

[austere bronze]

Same, I've always wanted MLs for final sin

[lyric lodge]

Sad i cant get none on console 😔(i wouldnt dare play it anyway)

[pearl viper]

That is gunna make it way harder for me when things are running around at mach fish and I'm trying to punch cancel

[lyric lodge]

I would be grinding MLs but my lazy ass cant even bother replaying missions to get myself maxed out

[lyric lodge]

Just punch cancel on basic fodder in earlier levels or smth. Its barely necessary

[austere bronze]

Np, I'm only trying to help (:

[lyric lodge]

gotta play MLs with 125 hp goes crazy 😭🙏

[pearl viper]

and I really appreciate it ^^

[austere bronze]

I'm not maxed either lol

[lyric lodge]

Visual representation works better for certain people, i get it

[pearl viper]

I forgot a while ago but I was gunna say it's kinda hard for me but if I can see someone actually pressing keys I'd get it

[austere bronze]

125hp??? Damn

[lyric lodge]

Listen man i played it like how i'd plan my UN runs 😔

[pearl viper]

I learned how to play cod zombies right when I watched someone else do it

[lyric lodge]

kinda speedran lmao

[lyric lodge]

or just onscreen text telling me fr

[pearl viper]

Only sometimes that'll work for me

I must have missed it completely when he said weapon bind key and punch

of course, then again something is wrong with me today

[lyric lodge]

simple stuff shoot punch keybind during punch shoot

[austere bronze]

When I get home I'm probably gonna try out tormented earth on unbalanced

It's going to go terribly since it on balanced was already probably the hardest thing I've ever done in doom eternal

I'm just yapping today

[pearl viper]

Is there anyone on yt that plays doom eternal so good to the point where you need to lower the difficulty in order to even see what they're doing?

That's what I wanna see rn

[lyric lodge]

wdym lower the diffficulty? How does that even work?

also i'd choose my goat plobbus

[pearl viper]

Not lower the game difficulty, lower the player's difficulty

[glossy warren]

smvr and zero master, console and pc respective

[lyric lodge]

plobbus and mmafro maybe but they are both speedrunners

[glossy warren]

general gameplay Id do these, tammie and mmafro for speedrunning

[lyric lodge]

smvr just has that peak mental state so he dominates every game he plays. I admire him for that tbh

[pearl viper]

I know Zero, my mom and I watched him to see the whole game

[lyric lodge]

Zero even conquers old dooms. Hes practically a generational figure lmao

Also apparently the first person to get a real 100% UV max in E1M8

[pearl viper]

his gameplay was just.... 💕

[lyric lodge]

their normal gameplay alone is still outstanding tho. i watched mmafro's tag1 UN(non speedrun) and it was damn good too

and plobbus' ML gameplay's sick stuff

[pearl viper]

Who would you say would have the most tech heavy gameplay?

[pearl viper]

wait, tammie, as in the one who was talking here a while ago?

[glossy warren]

tammie is plobbus

[lyric lodge]

sylar cuz he made most of the tech

[pearl viper]

That's exactly what I'm looking for, but what I mean by tech heavy is like mechanical gameplay. Using the exact right weapons, exploiting punch cancel a lot, proper combos, keeping proper distance and being able to just machine your way through everything with no resistance.

[lyric lodge]

So just being good at the game

Zero master and plobbus are the only ones at the top of my head maybe put in bloodshot but i havent seen any gameplay vids from him

[slow sigil]

what part of gameplay would not be mechanical

[pearl viper]

stopping in the middle of a fight to stand still hand hit fodder with heavy cannon base to get a glory kill and refill punch

[lyric lodge]

or getting stuck on the weapon wheel fr 😭🙏

weapon wheel the key to all my contemplating 😔

[pearl viper]

Firing a weapon more than once without swapping

I wanna see someone play so good the game is afraid to crash on them

[lyric lodge]

me with ballista sometimes

[pearl viper]

I do that too sometimes

I also miss a lot

This is how I learn tho, I see a level I can never get to and I'll try to at least get close.

I tried Sylar first ,-,
I didn't know Ultra Instinct existed

[austere bronze]

Murican eagle is super good

Way better than zero master tbh

[pearl viper]

I wanna be able to play like any of them so bad

[austere bronze]

You'll get there eventually, there is a lot of hard work leading up to that kind of skill

I'm starting to get pretty happy with my gameplay in doom eternal, but there is still a long way to go

My biggest achievement in etdrnal is tammie saying I'm pretty good XD

[pearl viper]

That probably felt great lol

[austere bronze]

No wait

It's knowing a tyrant is so close to gloey kill that I just fired a single heavy cannon bullet at him and he went into glory kill state

Then we have UN MLs, tammie and beating really hard modded MLs on nightmare

[pearl viper]

I haven't really paid much attention to what combo of shots will do what for certain demons. I know a few, but usually I just got them with what I think will do it.

[austere bronze]

I used to know combos for every heavy demon but know I have forgotten them and I either just kill them or guess how much I need to shoot them for a gk

When you've played the game enough you'll be able to just eyeball it

[pearl viper]

That's what I've pretty much always done was eyeball it

[lyric lodge]

Damn, i forgot about him 😭 his console gameplay is awesome but i can barely see anything with that quality

[austere bronze]

I've never seen any of his console gameplay, obly his PC gameplay but I've heard that he's insane on console too

[lyric lodge]

i wouldnt care bruh tyrant dead is tyrant dead 😭🙏

[lyric lodge]

peak console player. 720p is outrageous tho

[pearl viper]

I first learned to PB rocket on the tyrant before the portal to urdak

[austere bronze]

The first time I encountered a tyrant and I saw that ginourmous red thingy I went "nope" and just crucibled before I even got a look at him

[lyric lodge]

I'd rather freeze him before he gets on the platform so he falls

[pearl viper]

I like to spam him with ssg ballista and finish off with rockets

Turns out when you shoot demons with guns, they die.

[lyric lodge]

Lob betta than normal rockets

[pearl viper]

Absolutely, but I wanna try punch ssg on it now

[austere bronze]

Huh, interesting

[pearl viper]

:3

[austere bronze]

Welp, time to get absolutely wrecked in doom eternal

[fallen heart]

Welp, time to absolutely wreck doom eternal*

[austere bronze]

hahah, unfortunately not this time

[safe raft]

[pearl viper]

And they will fear you

[austere bronze]

currently I'm the one fearing

I was barely able to beat this mod on the balanced version and now I'm playing the unbalanced version

and my game crashed in 2 seconds💀

[pearl viper]

I believe in you ^^

[austere bronze]

thank you, I actually haven't died yet but I've also not been in a real arena

[austere bronze]

yepp, i'm not gonna get further on nightmare

nvm, i'm just too good

[rose thistle]

can anyone confirm how much a health potion (blue vial health pickup) heals you on ITYTD? It looks like it should be 10 on other difficulties and 15 on ITYTD, but I want to confirm

[burnt thistle]

I think it does 10, just pay attention go your healthbar when you use the blue potions

[rose thistle]

man i don't play on ITYTD
I'm doing some modding and wanna make sure I'm interpreting stuff right (and don't feel like booting up the game so I was hoping someone might know off the top of their head lol)

[runic marlin]

guys, you can't just shoot a hole through the surface of Mars.

[burnt thistle]

I'm not sure honestly

I've only played doom eternal and I'm also a very new player

I think I've played classic doom once but I did it with friends, not the campaign so I still know nothing about it

[storm field]

İm not the villain in this story ı do what ı do because there is no choice

[burnt thistle]

Real

[halcyon remnant]

Ive played the game since 2020 and i never knew this ?!?

[burnt thistle]

That's crazy man, same with me

[rose thistle]

tf happened to your i's

[unreal flare]

I'm starting to get used to my new controls

I can feel quickswitching getting within my grasp

[split stump]

Does anyone know why I have the gunpletionist milestone but not the achievement for my PS4? If so how do I fix it?

[rose thistle]

update on the nightmare mod:
enemies are dropping armour instead of health when glory killed help

[azure oriole]

The only thing they fear is the crippling realization that we are insignificant in this universe, and in several billion years when the sun implodes and all matter in the solar system ceases to exist, all traces of humanity will be completely erased. Nothing we do matters.

[glossy warren]

k

[novel vector]

dont feel depressed about this. you have an enourmous number of lives you can change, just because no one will know we exist, doesnt mean we should sit around until then, we can make life better for everyone while we're here. Nihilism is one of the worst outlooks you can have, it's really easy to go to darker places from it, channel that dread into comfort, knowing that there's more to do than just have a name in an alien's history book.

[lofty estuary]

too bad this already made me depressed, i will now wallow in a pool of my own tears

[rose thistle]

I may be stupid

@young mango I tested the rearward damage mitigation thing. Lost Soul did 10 damage front hit on ITYTD and 9 from behind, vs 50 from front hit and 75 over 2 back hits on nightmare. Checks out with it being a multiplier and becoming more generous on higher difficulties

also this confirms one of my changes isn't working lmao

[lyric lodge]

pb ssg is better

[pearl viper]

I gotta learn to do all the punch stuff

[azure oriole]

YOU GUYS
THEY JUST MADE TRANSPARENT RED LEGO AXE BLADE PIECES

[lyric lodge]

Not necessary. Quickswap combos are more efficient unless youre punchswapping ballista against a pain elemental

[celest coral]

as a doom and lego fan, where

[pearl viper]

Because I wanna learn it for more super fast stuff

[azure oriole]

It goes with the vampire knight from minifigure series 25

was i supposed to get the crucible somehwere on the classic mode mars core master level
cause i found a pickup but not the sword itself

[inland kite]

im finally able to play on nightmare

im on the 6th mission and i havent even lost a revive once since i started the game
well at the start yes i had to turn it down to uv and reloading checkpoints on nightmare and lost 1 revive but it doesnt matter)

[rose thistle]

https://youtu.be/ccmowiO9Vl0
you're telling me this game has multiple berserk kills for the Tyrant (which i don't think ever even appears anywhere with a berserk) but not for the fodder enemies you spend half your time in the one place the powerup spawns ripping apart?

[lyric lodge]

It does appear for the arc complex ML if you save the berserker powerup for the outside restaurant arena

[rose thistle]

oh, good catch

[lyric lodge]

NO FUCKING WAY I HAVE TO FIGHT THE DARK LORD AT 53 HP

THE FUCK MAN AT LEAST RESET MY SHIT ITS A NEW LEVEL

[rose thistle]

he's easy dw about it

you can just kill the zombies around if you're worried anyway

[lyric lodge]

Does he heal every 3 seconds

Laziest boss fight oat

[rose thistle]

yeah he's lame
he heals if you shoot him while his shield is up or if he hits you

[lyric lodge]

This is actually so boring damn

Ion even wanna beat bro atp

[lyric lodge]

Im so thankful i can change difficulties

What are the ways i could improve at the game? Not tips and tricks but just way to practice and get better

[rose thistle]

play on higher difficulties

[lyric lodge]

Nightmare's already my normal difficulty

[rose thistle]

uhh

play on famine mode?

[lyric lodge]

Whats that again

I dont think i have the cheat code either

[azure oriole]

ther are no armor or health drops from enemies

[lyric lodge]

what map do you find it

Was doing so well on tag1 UN only to get stuck between a mancubus and a hell knight with no bp to escape 😔

[azure oriole]

uuh
that area in Nekravol where the cages are moving up
theres one area where you can go beneath them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=hp_3YNDSgVE

[lyric lodge]

ight thanks

[azure oriole]

How far in?

btw thats not my video it felt right to say

[lyric lodge]

After the explosion and the cybermancubus mancubus hell knight stairway area

Quite sad i got stuck after doing so well

[azure oriole]

It's been a while for me, what level is that? Sorry I'm kinda bad at memorizing the encounters based on enemies and not looks 😭

who else likes drinking industrial solvent 😁

[empty basin]

@young mango Where can I find the guide on how to downpatch? is it this one? 🤔
https://github.com/mcdalcin/DoomEternalDownpatcher

[young mango]

yes this is the one

[empty basin]

👍

[lyric lodge]

UAC atlantica

[empty basin]

I found the one on reddit but it's from 2020 so I'm pretty sure it's outdated

[lyric lodge]

i only remember enemies if i die to them 😔

[lyric lodge]

is there an effective way to deal with possessed enemies without tech? even lob doesnt seem to do much

[azure oriole]

Little sucker has never had the pleasure of meeting friendly demons.

[lyric lodge]

quite sad indeed

instead of a caco letting me pet it it snuck on me while i was killing a marauder 😔

[young mango]

yea no the old method is people changing liek depots in steam directly and stuff, this straight up gives you the whole files needed; the quick download lets you download only enough files to revert to your patch from current patch, and the big file lets you go from any patch to any other patch, because it’s the entire game file, that’s why this application requires you to log in with your steam account; to prevent it from being piracy

[young mango]

lob is probably your best bet, 2700 damage before damage reduction is your highest dps option along with seeking the enemy

[lyric lodge]

ah, fair

[lyric lodge]

Is my weapon variety good enough? I tend to use ssg ballista, pb ssg, lob and chaingun shield but tend to use them singularly instead of mixing and matching. I always seem to end up using the same stuff

How could i learn from watching pros btw?

[azure oriole]

That sucks, at least you werent too far in though. That's the nice thing about TAG 1, it may be harder than the base campaign but it's a hell of a lot shorter, so it's not as bad when you die.

[lyric lodge]

Unless its samur

[young mango]

idk tbh I couldn’t recommend somebody decent to watch to learn from, but unironically you should probably watch a 100% speedrun of something because that’s where most of the combat happens, you could watch like tryhards and stuff but chances are they’re doing way more than necessary in an attempt to by flashy

[lyric lodge]

It sucked not because of the length but because i did sm better than usual

[azure oriole]

That's a pretty real opinion.

[empty basin]

The WR 100% UN Restricted was the one I watched

[lyric lodge]

ight i know some good speedrunning stuff thanks

[empty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdMDSUJ9Dpw

It does a lot of tech stuffs and whatnot but the main takeaway from me was the decision-making process

[lyric lodge]

I watched mmafro's run since hes on console 😅

[azure oriole]

are there mods where you can use cheat codes on UN

Ah. I should probably have asked for Tammie's opinion on those Slayer Gate runs.

Oh well.

[young mango]

wat slayer gate runs

[azure oriole]

Good the suggestion worked. I didn't notice these console runs were old but eh.

https://youtu.be/1REbJp7gHFw
https://youtu.be/r_B0kkpeGdI

[young mango]

watched the exultia one to get a feel for it, and he’s definitely doing a lot more than necessary, it’s not horrible, but he starts it by switching though liek every weapon in his arsenal for some fodder, and then just spams ssg ballista on the heavies, it’s not the most optimal, and there’s points he probably would’ve died if he was approaching this with regular progression, but it’s easy to cut him slack considering this was like 9 days after the game came out

[empty basin]

So what do I do to go back to the current patch when I need to? 🤔 I assume just verify the game files on steam?

[young mango]

yea verify integrity works but if you have shitty internet like me you could download the big current patch file to return at any time

[rose thistle]

Do we know why invasion mode was scrapped? Time constraints or it just didn't work well or

[slow sigil]

Likely both

[knotty wing]

Do you need ancient gods to complete the achievements on xbox

[pearl viper]

yes

[nocturne lynx]

Depends on if you want 1,000G or 100%.

[rich lagoon]

Random question but I can’t find an answer on google. How the hell did doom 2 release so quickly? They had a small team and released doom 1 it says in December of 93 but then in may of 94 released doom 2 that’s barely 5 months later

[empty basin]

Because most of the groundwork were already done

Doom 2 is essentially just an expansion pack to Doom 1, there are new levels, new enemies and the new Super Shotgun, but the baseline for the codes were already there and they barely had to change anything

[rich lagoon]

Oh ok that makes sense, still seems pretty remarkable to me but thanks 😊

[empty basin]

👍 There's definitely more details to this though

[unreal flare]

Doom II did release rather quickly but the level design is what suffered most from the rush imho

[empty basin]

Yeah lots of the levels were half-baked

[unreal flare]

We did get the iconic Dead Simple out of it though so I'm thankful

[empty basin]

Downtown is super hilarious

The dev just gave up on making a proper level progression that they just makes a giant arrow on the ground

[unreal flare]

LMAO TRUE

[empty basin]

And to make it worse, people still missed it

[unreal flare]

In a way I do think Eternal managed to pull of what Downtown tried in a much more streamlined way

Arc Complex is what Downtown tried to achieve

[rich lagoon]

Is it worth replaying the older ones? I’m on Xbox and doom 93, 2, 3 and 2016 are in a bundle for 7 bucks

[unreal flare]

Absolutely

I will however say the gameplay is very different

In Classic Doom, you can't look up or down, you can't jump, and there is much less to manage overall

In 2016 you're already closer to Eternal but you don't have dashes and you have much more ammo

For Doom 3 I'm sadly not informed enough to say

[rich lagoon]

Ok I mean for that price I’m not risking much, one day I gotta get doom on my Mac running to try some of these mods

[unreal flare]

Yeah I'd recommend playing Doom on PC but you'll especially be able to handle Classic Doom since it runs on basically anything

And there are so many mods and sourceports to choose from too, feel free to pick whatever you want to get the best possible experience

[hushed basin]

do dlc skins save on slayer club/bethesda accounts or just on the pc im wondering that rn

[lyric lodge]

boomer shooters do be pretty good despite that

[lyric lodge]

gzdoom the goat

[unreal flare]

GZDoom is good if you want to play mods but if you're looking for a vanilla experience I'd rather use DSDA-DOOM

[lyric lodge]

Gzdoom allowing you to jump and look up is crazy

[unreal flare]

Yeah it does feel pretty nice

[empty basin]

I used PrBoom+ when playing vanilla back then

[pearl viper]

So I bound heavy cannon to E and rockets to R, melee is on Q. I can consistently do punch tech and PB rockets, but I'm still having a bit of an issue being able to consciously move with WASD

[burnt herald]

Is there a way to play on a map without any demons for testing purposes like spawning a single unit and doing stuff with them?

[ocean marlin]

DOOM eternal Urdak map not visible

How do I solve this? Even if I clear Nekravol Part II, I don't get the Urdak map.

[small helm]

explore Urdak level to find the automap

[ocean marlin]

nice

[austere bronze]

Nice that you found something that works for you (:

[pearl viper]

I think it works, but I still need to figure out how to move :p

I'm relearning how to do even basic things and it's not pretty

[austere bronze]

Don't actually thunk I use S and D that much but I need to play a little bit to confirm

[pearl viper]

I use them a whole lot

[dull herald]

WHYS UR PFP SO SCARY

[austere bronze]

yeah I use them a bit too

more than a bit ig

[random vault]

the mothership is coming

[lyric lodge]

@young mango sorry for the ping but could you take a look at my gameplay? It isnt my best especially when i fucked around and found out but there were still parts where i was actually focused so i would like some advice from you https://youtu.be/t3d5_Huo-pY?si=0q4QERseLtDzfyo0

Thanks to cryomaniac for the pb ssg trick

[austere bronze]

no way, I just uploaded me playing UAC atlantica and that's the first time I've ever uploaded a vid of me playing a normal level

nothing cool but a kinda funny coincidence ig

[lyric lodge]

lmao can i see it

[austere bronze]

yeah sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdKXqDKJBg

I've just been off today it feels like, especially my aim has been bad

[lyric lodge]

happens to the best of us

[lyric lodge]

I forget how crazy the fov gets on pc 😭 least you aint using any crazy console commands for it tho, its become a soresight in doom gameplay tbh

[austere bronze]

I actually used console to commands to increase my FOV

but nothing crazy, instead of the normal 120 limit I used 130 or 135

and then I have a mod that puts my guns forward a bit

[lyric lodge]

tbh looking at your gameplay makes me realise how much i overutilise the ssg

[lyric lodge]

least it isnt 150 🙏

[austere bronze]

yea

[lyric lodge]

i get too close and thats why i deal most times cuz im apparently a meathook addict

[austere bronze]

I probably wouldn't use my gameplay as a benchmark and I haven't checked out your gameplay yet but on console it's more limited so it's easier to use the SSG a lot

[lyric lodge]

yeah, but i really need to use longer range combos. i used to use pb ballista for mancubi then switched to pb ssg and it amplified my ssg addiction sm more 😭

used it so much i forgot how to quickswap pb rocket bro

[austere bronze]

damn

pb rl is easily my favorite combo

[lyric lodge]

i hold L2 for pb ssg and accidentally did it for rocket causing me to fuck up so bad i almost died

[lyric lodge]

i use it alot for the icon of sin for sure but i really need to use it outside of that

[austere bronze]

it's basically my go to combo for almost anything

and if there is just a large horde of enemies? just pb rl or rl punch swap

feels kinda weird lookig at old footage of me playing and remembering I used to be happy over that

[lyric lodge]

Good times where i struggled in UV

[lyric lodge]

Idk why i always use grenade for those instead of the rocket 💀 its like the gun doesnt exist in my mind anymore

[austere bronze]

I don't have that old footage of me playing unfortunately but I do have footage of me struggling on Nightmare on balanced CBT atlantica facility

[lyric lodge]

Good stuff, i also remember last year where i would struggle on hmp when i only had my switch. Good times man i was straight trash

[austere bronze]

I'm wondering how I was struggling at itytd back in the day

sometimes I wanna relive my progression in doom eternal

[lyric lodge]

I suppose it was an entirely new experience

[austere bronze]

pretty much, doom eternal somehow was my first FPS game

[lyric lodge]

dude same here

if we dont count arsenal in roblox ofc

[austere bronze]

and we don't count bow duels in minecraft

obviously

wonder when I'm gonna quit with eternal, cuz rn I don't see myself quitting

[alpine pawn]

why is your game so beautiful

[heavy wren]

godamn the Seraphim boss is horrible

[austere bronze]

Because I use pretty decent graphic settings

[heavy wren]

what

[storm field]

that was the samur said

when second wave starts

[heavy wren]

I got to the pain elemental and dreadknight it was too hard so i got off

I just dont like it when bosses need to spawn in minions while you cant even hit them

[storm field]

lock on posessed dread knight and drop grenades kill posessed pain elemental with arbalest

[alpine pawn]

Do you know which settings specifically add more detail to your guns?

[heavy wren]

you think i should use the unmaker?

[storm field]

use BFG if you are in trouble

[austere bronze]

I unfortunately do not

I just just what Geforce tells me is optimal settings

[alpine pawn]

incredible

ty anyways

[austere bronze]

You're welcome

Even tho I didn't really help you

[regal walrus]

is this game finished?

i mean like this series

is this the end of the road

😞

[glossy warren]

nope

[regal walrus]

fr theres another game after this?

[rose thistle]

why do people keep asking this

they haven't announced a new game, and they haven't made any statement that the series is over

without any more info we can assume there will probably be another game at some point in the future

[heavy wren]

I just used sentinal armor i got bored

[azure oriole]

Anyone agree that the 2016/Eternal version of berserk is better than the classic version

[heavy wren]

obv

[hushed basin]

alright ive now finished main campaign and bassicly almost 100% so should i move on to TAG 1 and then 2? or do master levels first

[storm field]

it doesn't matter which you do first

But i think try TAG1-2 first

[spring panther]

doom 3's berserk was absolutely nuts if you consider it

[azure oriole]

how is it absolutely nuts

[spring panther]

it was a combination of quad damage and haste

[azure oriole]

WTF

[spring panther]

but still 2016/eternal berserk is better

[azure oriole]

Yeah one shotting every enemy you Touch is better than 4x damage + increased speed

[spring panther]

true

[young mango]

it’s definitely slower though, going through a glory kill animation for each enemy individually as opposed to clearing an entire room with your weapons in seconds

in eternal you can pretty much clear an entire room with a single dblade unless we’re talking about tyrants, marauders ( maybe current patch doom hunters? Idk )

[sweet trench]

Hello

[spring panther]

i have been using the dblade much more than i used to

still prefer the arbalest in some scenarios

(the part in sgn master level with like 16 carcasses total)

[young mango]

I never really counted all of them, all I counted is after 8 carcasses, the hellknights spawned, where I’d go to the very back of the arena and line up a dblade

they’re staggered by blood punch and die to a point blank ssg ( health pool is 1200, ssg is 1600 )

[azure oriole]

I never thought i could complete doom eternal on switch nightmare mode but man ive been a fan of doom for so long its awesome how far they have come and all the fan made music i only have a 6 string electric not sure if that'll make a beat lol nice to meet you all btw

[young mango]

the fundamentals aren’t half bad, most of the bad things that happened were mostly decision making and not actually an issue with your proficiency

[spring panther]

they also die to an arbalest direct hit which can then be chained to get multiple carcasses at once

[young mango]

yea ik, arbalest and ssg have the same damage value

[gray kiln]

Doesn't doomguy look like the hulk

[strange gale]

yeah he's ugly as shit

[gray kiln]

ͣ

[proven wadi]

just beat doom eternal on my shitty ass pc

[azure oriole]

it cant be that bad of a pc if you can run it

[proven wadi]

yea, i had to turn all the graphic settings on low because it wass lagging so badly

[azure oriole]

Ohh..damn yikes

[proven wadi]

ik, it looked like shit

[azure oriole]

i only have 10 gb of ram on here :/

[proven wadi]

damn, idk how muvh i have, im not really a computer guy

[azure oriole]

im not either but i just know lol more of a music guy

[proven wadi]

all i know is that my dad got it for free

[azure oriole]

dad pcs be hittin diffrent asf

[proven wadi]

it was literally on fire like the whole time i was playing

[azure oriole]

NAHHH jeez

[scarlet isle]

Okay, I didn’t have much money, but I’ve now got TAG Parts one and two, so…

Took a while

[azure oriole]

Have fun man, TAG is a pretty fun dlc all things considered

[scarlet isle]

I will

[burnt thistle]

Guys, my pc is finally finished, I can play doom on pc

Which will probably be much more enjoyable

[azure oriole]

those sprits in ultra nightmare kick ass tho

"sprits"?

the things that posses the demons makin em hella fast that shit scared me lol

Oh spirits yeah

my bad tryna get used to this new keyboard i got

They weren't that bad for me, I never died to one on UN, they just gave me a really fun challenge

No worries

oh yeah its hella fun

i beat horde mode on nightmare that shit took like..5 hours lmao

Oof lmao, was it like 5 hours of fun or 5 hours of agony 😭

5 hours of fun

istg this game cured my depression

Nice, I'm looking forward to doing horde mode nightmare, I haven't gotten around to it yet.

im about to finish Doom 64

[lyric lodge]

Thanks alot, is there an efficient way i could improve it? Aside from this i tend to stress out alot

[rose thistle]

it's so weird that armour doesn't play a different sound effect when you pick it up while full and it refills blood punch

I had the thought it might be a bug but the sound effect that health plays when you do that is specifically labeled for health, I don't see any armour equivelant

[lyric lodge]

Idk tf happened with my game but i managed to kill the pain elemental while the dread knight was just standing on a platform with some sort of effect coming from samur to the dread knight lmao

[rose thistle]

oh huh
it looks like there is a different sound for the small armour pickups and the flamebelch drops. Just the big ones missing it.

[lyric lodge]

i love the armour pickup sound

so crunchy

[rose thistle]

yes!

[rose thistle]

#eternal-modding message
finished the first version of my nightmare rebalance mod, if anyone's interested in playing with it a bit and letting me know how it feels

[azure oriole]

I don't trust that.

[young mango]

?

[young mango]

#doom-eternal message

[azure oriole]

Oh yes, there it is. 400 Arbalest impact damage shouldn't be enough to one shot a Prowler.

[young mango]

yes but 1200 splash. The splash alone is enough to oneshot him becuase his 1000 health total. 1200 splash and 400 impact equals 1600 total damage, SSG point blank total damage is 1600 as well

[random vault]

cant you literally check the damage numbers

[azure oriole]

No sorry I can't read English.

[shut moat]

admit your defeat dude

[vale pebble]

Tammie literally understands the game more than most of the devs 💀

[azure oriole]

that sounds pretty cool

good for Tammie

Now it's time to find out why 400 > 1000

[young mango]

hi, sorry for any confusion, that was explained in my previous message.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1230364075788075078/IMG_8193.png?ex=66330cd6&is=662097d6&hm=c8275e577d7374aaa8ac44070e877b9d562367f5228372090e33f2651a84b000&

400 is not the total damage number
there’s many damage values on that document that include a total that is not complete without splash.
frag grenade is 80 direct but 710 with splash.
blood punch is 600 damage without splash, but it is 800 pre-doom Hunter fight and 1000 afterwards.
micro missiles does 5 damage without splash and 105 afterwards.
there are many examples of such things in the damage values and I’d advise to test them yourself to see what I mean

[strange gale]

yea in-game testing should always take precedence

[austere bronze]

I could try it when I get home from school today

[rose thistle]

:3

[lyric lodge]

@young mango

[young mango]

being able to work out plans while you’re playing isn’t a skill you can force yourself to develop, it just becomes a thing over time, your best bet is just memorizing these arenas and routing out a plan

[pearl hollow]

hello

[strange gale]

decisionmaking is a skill that should passively improve as you develop a deeper and broader understanding of what your and the enemies' options are in any given situation

so for example, the blood swamps trial arena with the two buff totems (no way in hell could i tell you which path it's on though) feels like it's designed to favor the enemies there, which means i approach it with a generally defensive playstyle

the arena consists primarily of awkward bridges, walkways, tight spaces, and generally shit geometry which is perfect for the carcasses and barons that spawn there

the other trial arena that doesn’t have buff totems is entirely open space and therefore heavily slayer favored, there i can kinda just do whatever i want and win

[lyric lodge]

Ah, alright. Thanks

[rose thistle]

how do you even play "defensively" in this game lol

[strange gale]

here's one way to approach that: you respect the enemies' space and force them to come to you instead

this way you can deal with them one by one and move to a new position if need be

as a fighting game player, you of all people should understand

you can think of this like the tekken 7 meta where it was generally better to give up offensive momentum to then utilize kbd/stepping/low parrying etc to capitalize on the tiniest bit of overextension from the opponent

instead of charging in and running your offense 24/7 like you would in tekken 8, what you can (and oftentimes should) do in de is to hang back and force the ai you're fighting to follow you into a worse position for them

then you can use strong movement to steal the good position they just gave up

of course none of this translates directly from t7 to de simply because they're in entirely different genres, but the core concept of letting your opponent kill themselves for you does apply

[umbral totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujSg0UQw46Y @young mango very nais video bhai

[strange gale]

that's really the only way to make a boss fight in this game difficult though

the slayer is so hilariously busted that any 1v1 is going to be in his favor

[lyric lodge]

Is it just me or does the campaign feel slower than the dlcs? Not level wise but gameplay wise weirdly enouh

[rose thistle]

I'm just struggling to visualize it ig? You obviously can't just stay still because if you stop moving you die, so you're gonna be doing the same hopping around as usual, just in a smaller area. But like what really gets me is "one-by-one"... the demons don't queue up, wouldn't you just get swarmed?

[young mango]

to be fair not only is it adjusting for a smaller Arsenal but you can just walk past half the encounters anyways, take taras nabad master level for example, playing it then playing the normal level is night and day

[rose thistle]

Tammie did you see I finished the mod

[young mango]

shit not gonna lie I’ve been busy, I skim through a lot of this stuff, been quite the haze lately, but yea I’ll check it out later, I’m not doing anything important but I’m currently trying to set up cheat engine on doom eternal so I can read damage values in live time

[rose thistle]

based

[strange gale]

you absolutely can force demons to queue up in arenas with narrow spaces, like the blood swamps trial arena i mentioned

[rose thistle]

hm

[strange gale]

and if you have tons of open space to play around with, then you generally just wanna aircamp and run your offense

[rich lagoon]

Which dooms have couch coop?

[lyric lodge]

The classics, its split screen

[rich lagoon]

Not 2016?

[strange gale]

i don't have the credentials to write any kind of scientific dissertation on this, but i'm closing in on 2000 hours of nightmare playtime and this kind of approach works for me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich lagoon]

I bought 1993 doom last night and me and my 8 year old were having a blast on split screen I wish more games worked in that feature

[lyric lodge]

Sadly modern games focus more on online stuff now. Couch coops are hard to come by but theres good chill ones

[young mango]

hi, i noticed you may have experienced some confusion earlier, and after installing cheat engine on my 5.0 version of the game, i found a way to display the damage metrics in real time. as you can see in this clip i made, the splash damage ( which is listed as 1200 in the spreadsheet ) does in fact kill the prowler without a direct hit ( which is the aforementioned 400 damage you kept referencing ) with the spreadsheet listing the prowler as 1000 hp, and so does my real time damage metrics, going back to the spreadsheet, you can see that the only enemy in that room that takes normal damage scaling is the whiplash ( maybe fodder, but they'd get instakilled, nullifying my example ) the spreadsheet lists it as 1600 damage from a normal arbalest, and as you can see in my video, the health pool of 2000 that the whiplash has is reduced to 1600 by the direct hit ( which is 400 ) then reduced to 400 once the splash damage activates. hope this helps https://youtu.be/jyPNrHuqDpY

[young mango]

#videos message adding onto this because I think it’s funny how broken arc complex is, I’ll go in order of when in the level it happens/order of when I remember. so I’m going to start with the arc complex master level because this is the first instance, but if you’re fast enough you can just straight up skip the room right before the double baron encounter by kinda just walking past it ( enemies in previous room still required for hellified barrier to despawn I think ), and in the normal level in the outside arena there’s now two ways to speed to the end from this point onwards. the out of bounds version ( far easier ) is quite literally just going over the death barrier ) and the in bounds version, which has a little quirk of its own, if activates a checkpoint trigger when performed, and if that checkpoint is loaded, you are sent to the room near it, except it’s not activated and there’s no way to activate it so you have to restart if you get this one. the outside arena with the airplane has a chance of a softlock ( might be the master level idk ), the place after the cafe and before the turret is a part in doing the in bounds skip successfully because even current patch you can just boost your way off of it because there’s a shocking lack of invisible walls or death barriers, both turrets have a chance of you clipping through, that’s about all the major ones I could think of, I’d be nitpicking if I went any further

the funniest part is how pretty much all of those glitches take place before the first turret, also the reason skipping the turrets is possible is because the tentacles don’t have a hitbox

[tropic mesa]

k

[young mango]

I ain’t reading allat

[pearl viper]

Ark complex is so broken that I usually ride the elevator half way up and then ballista my way through it and skip the shooting cutscene which leaves one of the tentacles there at the end and you can just walk right through them. They don't have collision.

[young mango]

could you perhaps give more descriptors or provide a video example? I’ve never heard of this before

[pearl viper]

You know the elevator ride to go up to the tower after the resturant fight? you can skip the whole tower by shotting your ballista upwards during the elevator.

I can try to get a video of it too

[young mango]

alright I’ll test this out

[verbal wigeon]

https://youtu.be/GKXdqqupmTY?si=3LssojafVaUZAi0n
This is just amazing. Found this sfm animation on yt. (THIS IS NOT MINE)

i'd recommend u guys to check his channel! He has a lot of them

[fallow crypt]

Is the big update still in the oven or is it a shadow update of sorts?

[verbal wigeon]

i think they won't

[pearl viper]

Got it, I'll upload it to #videos soon along with an "I got stuck in a wall" glitch included.

ugh, 25mb limit DX

it's gunna look like garbage and im sorry

[austere bronze]

@rose thistle I tested your mod and it feels like it's around nightmare level, maybe a tid bit easier tho

I tried it on both something easier (taras nabad ML) and something harder (tormented earth) and I feel like it went a bit too good for me

[lyric lodge]

Diabolical 😭

Holy shit. This is like the first time ive seen someone do a modded level on controller and he fucking dominated ts https://youtu.be/8kX2F2FAcgg?si=VzDmItJ3RF7WHJJD

MuricanEagle they could never make me hate you bro 😭🙏

[rose thistle]

I see. Do you think enemy damage should be increased maybe?

[burnt herald]

4 archviles? omfg

[halcyon remnant]

Ive almost got the gold combat shotgun

7/10 i just need to beat it on N, Extra life mode N and UN

[crisp marsh]

If I wanna get the Golden bounty skin can I skip bonus waves/bonus stuff in general? Can I still get it if I just go through horde mode on nightmare without most of the bonus stuff

Or do I have to do it perfectly with everything

[halcyon remnant]

If you’re talking to me I already got it ages ago

[rose thistle]

afaik you just have to beat it

[crisp marsh]

I mean cool

just asking

[crisp marsh]

Thanks so I can skip bonus waves and all that shi

[halcyon remnant]

Yeah skip the bonus waves so u dont lose tok many extra lives

[crisp marsh]

Aight thanks

[rose thistle]

how do you skip them anyway? just ignore the bounties?

[crisp marsh]

Yh

[halcyon remnant]

Yeah

[crisp marsh]

I did it with extra waves and I died at the bonus wave on the second mission they're always way harder(the bonus waves)

[rose thistle]

I think my first run I died on the last bonus wave of the last stage lol

[crisp marsh]

Oh dang

[halcyon remnant]

I didn’t when i was trying to get it and was in final arena lvl 4 with 1 extra life

[crisp marsh]

Aight imma try

[austere bronze]

Yes, that sounds reasonable

[rose thistle]

how does 80% of their usual damage (rather than 75) sound?

[austere bronze]

Maybe even 85%

[rose thistle]

also how do you feel about the armour coefficient? is 40% nice?

[austere bronze]

It felt pretty good, although sometimes my armour was higher than my HP, it doesn't have to be a bad thing tho

[rose thistle]

yeah that's the idea largely
your armour will make your health last longer but it doesn't replace it

[rose thistle]

alright let's try that and see how it feels

#eternal-modding message

[austere bronze]

Aight, I'm on my way home from my climbing session and I'm gonna pick up a pizza on the way, so it'll probably be like 35 min before I get home

I'm just trusting that you didn't give me a virus lol

[rose thistle]

i'll name the next version "notavirus.zip" for reassurance ;)

[austere bronze]

Overall this feels like a nice mod actually

[austere bronze]

Appreciate it (:

[rose thistle]

something I'm curious about is maybe I should make the reduced armour drops apply to all difficulties. I worry your armour might be constantly full in them otherwise since the armour coefficient also applies to all skill levels (not within my capacity to make it nightmare-specific)

the mod is mostly intended for nightmare play ofc but that doesn't mean it should make other difficulties too easy or anything

[austere bronze]

Sounds like a good idea tbh, try it out

[rose thistle]

oh whoops, i think I missed something

I forgot to adjust the extra health dropped by superheavies, you're getting a full extra 30 there

...hm
there are also some decls for heavy enemy glory kills. Those might stack as well

now that I think of it I did forget to test the health drops on anything more than fodder...

[crisp marsh]

I don't think I'm doing it right cuz rn I'm on the third mission with 18 extra lives and so far it's easy af

[austere bronze]

Try out all these new things and only increase damage to 80%

Or maybe not even at all, idk tho

[rose thistle]

gonna revert to 75 for now, assuming I'm right about what missing these things did, it would have made a pretty huge difference

[austere bronze]

Ye, just tell me when you're done and I'll try it out as soon as possible

[rose thistle]

#eternal-modding message
ready

[austere bronze]

Damn that was quick, I'm not quite ready to try it out yet

[rose thistle]

lol, it's just a couple numbers to change
game is ridiculously mod-friendly

[austere bronze]

Nice, and I'm ridiculously hungry so I'll probably eat now and then try it

[rose thistle]

pizza time 😎

[austere bronze]

Yeaa💯

[rose thistle]

@young mango are you able to try it too?

[austere bronze]

aight, I'm trying it now

[azure oriole]

What are you guys playing

[rose thistle]

modge

[austere bronze]

@rose thistle I still feel like enemy attacks should be raised from 75% to 80% damage

[rose thistle]

ok, I'll do that

#eternal-modding message

[austere bronze]

I feel like this is very close to the normal nightmare difficulty now

probably just comes down to play style tbh

[lilac iris]

I began to play Nightmare mode now

Not having big trouble to be honest

[austere bronze]

nice

then you're probably a bit overdue with nightmare

nice mod @rose thistle , I'll probably substitute this for normal nightmare sometimes

[rose thistle]

you wanna test some other areas, maybe? see how the start a campaign UN run feels or maybe horde mode or something?

[rose thistle]

:3

[lilac iris]

Havent died yet

[austere bronze]

yea sure, not sure how much time I have tho

[lilac iris]

only gone to 20 hp once when my wifi shut down (the game paused)

[austere bronze]

gonna watch the last part of a movie with the family idk when tho, that's why my responses might have felt a little bit rushed

[rose thistle]

dw about it

[austere bronze]

I'm probably not gonna try UN or horde mode since I don't know those very well

I'm gonna try SGN ML I think

[lilac iris]

horde mode is fun

[rose thistle]

aight go for it

[lilac iris]

I want the Icon of Sin thingy

[rose thistle]

I got it with just two playthroughs (after dying at the end on my first one lol), it's cool

[austere bronze]

I unfortunately had to stop playing now, but it honestly feels very balanced

I would probably have to play a little bit more tho and I would strongly recommend not trusting me completely

[rose thistle]

sick, thanks for testing

hopefully Tammie can give their opinion sometime soon too

[lilac iris]

does Ultra Nightmare have extra lifes?

[scarlet heron]

No

[lilac iris]

okay thought so

[regal walrus]

Wait the lore kinda confusing with the wiki

Did the father create davoth or other way around

[austere bronze]

glad I could help (:

I've tried it out on taras nabad ML and it still feels balanced

[rose thistle]

Davoth created The Father, then after betraying Davoth, the history was rewritten to say it was the other way around

The Father was also the original title of Davoth, which was stolen by the being we now know by that name
funnily we actually have no idea what the current Father's name originally was

[slow sigil]

read it as the betrayel of lucifer but lucifer won

[rose thistle]

pretty much yeah

[slow sigil]

really cool concept, shame tag2 kinda fumbled it

[rose thistle]

also possibly Lucifer may have been kinda justified in doing so
it's hard to say, pretty much everyone we see who was involved are kinda pricks
Davoth is pretty evil, the Maykrs are pretty evil
tbqh the Seraphim is pretty chill I still think Doomguy was kinda an ass to him
And The Father is also pretty chill but we don't really see him with much power so it's hard to say what he'd be up to if he could actually like, do stuff

[lofty estuary]

nah the seraphim was full of himself

[rose thistle]

but like Davoth was supposedly really nice and just loved his creations a lot, and the Maykrs and co. were just like oh this guy is way too clingy we can't let him have this new toy
i mean idk maybe he was clingy to an existentially threatening level, again it's hard to say

[rose thistle]

oh yeah for sure
but like he still overall acted with generally positive intentions

[idle siren]

the prob. with him is/was that he never trusted / helped on his own accord other than the father. everyone else was just a mere tool for samur to achieve his goal. But I still do like him

[rose thistle]

like maybe he was a bit narcissistic but the only thing he really did out of self-interest was "hey we need to revive god to get the demons out of heaven so they don't pose a threat to all existance and while we're at it I kinda need his help to stop an agonizing death for myself so i appreciate you helping me"

but like I'd say he generally acted for the greater good?

anyway Davoth is like, clearly an ass when we meet him, but I'd be pretty bitter too if I created a bunch of dudes to help me find the secret of immortality for all the guys i love so much, and then after finding it they withheld it from me and locked me in my house
but like again maybe he'd already become a little assy before that

[austere bronze]

UAC atlantica facility slaughter map is impossible for me to play :/ as soon as I get to the fourth wave it crashes

lessgo, found a new level mod for eternal

[azure oriole]

Ah, it's too bad you didn't write that spreadsheet plobbus. Could've gotten something going there.

Anyways it is indeed math that the 1200 explosion damage of the Arbalest kills the Prowler instantly even without the 400 direct hit damage.

Which also kills it instantly.

[halcyon remnant]

I just beat the blood swamps on nightmare!

[rose thistle]

[austere bronze]

Well done! That level is hard

[azure oriole]

My personal opinion is that Davoth was likely already going insane by the time the Maykrs betrayed him.

[rose thistle]

yeah that is what they seem to indicate at least

[azure oriole]

The Father does not come off as a treacherous individual. He's kinda dumb and cowardly, but not malicious. I think his verdict that Davoth couldn't be trusted with the answer he was looking for was likely rooted at least somewhat in truth.

[rose thistle]

yeah

[azure oriole]

Of note: the Maykrs, like Davoth, didn't start out evil but became that way over time as they fell deeper and deeper into self-aggrandizing delusion. By all accounts they appear to have been very benevolent when they were first created.

But shit got lost in translation when the Father stopped actively leading them.

[rose thistle]

why did he do that anyway
like
was there really any reason for him to turn into a ball

[azure oriole]

I believe Hugo Martin said that Urdak as we see it in Eternal is not their realm's natural state, but rather the result of the realm splintering and becoming devastated by their bullshit.

[azure oriole]

I believe the implication is the Father turned to despair as a result of his fight with Davoth and decided to withdraw from the physical realm as a result. He was very hesitant to kill him, and Sphere-ifying him likely wasn't of any comfort.

[rose thistle]

so you're saying The Father was also a lil bitch

[azure oriole]

It was an immediate decision right after the fight.

[azure oriole]

Yes. If the Slayer is learning the same info we are through the Codex, that very well could be why he crushed his Life Sphere.

[rose thistle]

idk i still think it was a bit of an ass move

[young mango]

oh ya the mod thing? I’ll return to current patch rn while I’m doing some stuff👍

[rose thistle]

[young mango]

I suppose it doesn’t matter what I do, this discussion is no longer worth the effort, and no longer worth my time

[safe raft]

Hi chat

[slow sigil]

on the other hand, the only ones who tell it are also literally the ones that had betrayed him

[young mango]

y’know, i tried being nice, I tried patiently explaining, I went out of my way to make a paragraph and accompanying video on why that’s wrong to assist in your understanding, but when you’re actively refusing to listen to me and being rude for no reason the entire time it makes me not want to try to reason with you anymore and just drop it.

[raw plank]

hello

[rose thistle]

here's a fun fact: did you know Full Auto's sound effects change when you complete the mastery?
it has a bassy reverb that plays normally when you finish firing it and let go of the button, but it's absent once you fully upgrade it
if you try to add the sound back in by adding the appropriate line to the relevant file, the game crashes!

[safe raft]

I'm on the icon of sin boss fight

Like I'm surprised how the switch can handle it with like zero lag

[rose thistle]

doom eternal vs mortal kombat one switch ports prove that the secret to good performance is being funny about your excessive gore instead of serious

[strange gale]

mk gore might as well be fictional snuff at this point

[safe raft]

Mk1 on switch is honestly shit looking into graphics and shit

I mean characters mouthes do not move

The graphics are so low you'd think ur on a ps2

Loading takes forever

[strange gale]

there are ps2 games that look significantly better than the mk1 switch port

[safe raft]

Yeah that's how shit mk1 port is

I mean I don't even understand why they reset the mk timeline again

They had done it only 3 games ago

[rose thistle]

wdym
this is the first mk game

it's in the name

[safe raft]

I'm talking about mk1 the 2023 one not the 1992 one

[rose thistle]

yeah
1
it's in the name

[safe raft]

But it's not the first game in the series

[rose thistle]

I can't keep the joke going forever dude

[safe raft]

But still atleast mk11 on switch actually tried

[strange gale]

ff12 and god hand still look great

i'd list killer7 as well but that's cheating, its visual style literally doesn't age

[safe raft]

Yeah to me how I rate games is based on the year and graphics story and gameplay

[rose thistle]

"to me how i rate games is based on the contents of the game"?

[safe raft]

So I don't criticize old games for graphics

And I don't really care about lore much

[young mango]

blud wants to be slenderman the doomguy so bad😭😭

[safe raft]

Wat

[young mango]

@tranquil birch

[safe raft]

I've not once heard of that guy

[rose thistle]

slenderguy the doomman

[safe raft]

Wat

Yk something I just realized

[jaunty pumice]

petition to remove spirits from DE

i hate them so much

[safe raft]

Red dead redemption is early 1900 gta and assassins creed 3 is gta in the seventeen hundreds

[jaunty pumice]

I REFUSE TO USE SENTINEL ARMOR

[azure oriole]

What a gamer.

[strange gale]

nah, they're necessary in the dlcs

[jaunty pumice]

nerf them

[safe raft]

I only use it in the khan mayker boss fight I think that's the name

[jaunty pumice]

khan maykr was easy

[strange gale]

they already were, and even that nerf was a bit much

[azure oriole]

Adding Hell on Earth and Final Sin as Master Levels is indeed a good idea.

[jaunty pumice]

the only reason im struggling with seraphim is SOLEY because of the spirits

[safe raft]

Khan maykr made me lose my shit

[jaunty pumice]

what difficulty

[safe raft]

The easiest one

[jaunty pumice]

dean takahashi moment

[safe raft]

And that's the only time I need the sentinel armor

[jaunty pumice]

a good use for spirits would be to make weak demons stronger

for example, a possesed imp would be as strong as a marauder

[rose thistle]

well that seems a bit excessive

but i do like that idea
it'd make sense, too. Only weak demons can be possessed because the stronger ones aren't as succeptible to the spirit's influence

[rose thistle]

use lock on rockets and she just dies

not even joking, like
you do two lock ons and a precision bolt or something
and she's staggered

[jaunty pumice]

anyone have any tips for the seraphim fight

its easy, its just the part where the spirts possess the dread knight and the poain elemental

[rose thistle]

yeah so uhh
try... killing the spirits, i guess?

[young mango]

just spam lock on and keep a close eye on the bloodmaykrs because they Can singlehandedly ruin it for you, they also act as a free ammo refill so yea

get the dreadknight out of the way first tho he has way less health, one less threat on the battlefield to deal with

[rose thistle]

wow.... doom where you want to kill the pain elemental NOT first? truly the mutilation of an icon......

[strange gale]

i actually find the dredge less threatening

yeah he hops around and shit but the geometry in that arena more or less neuters him

lost souls do STUPID damage so if you get clipped by one of them and a blood maykr at the same time, you're just cooked

[young mango]

true but at least he’s quick to kill

[rose thistle]

tbh it might be worth like, saving a BFG shot for the area or something
do the tendrils do enough damage to take out the possessed dudes or do you need to actually hit them?

[young mango]

the tendrils are massively nerfed on samurs spawns, they do like 0.1% damage or something ridiculously bad like that

[rose thistle]

checks out
but i imagine a direct hit is probably enough to take out the meatball

[young mango]

factoring in even if the BFG had normal damage scaling there ( 4000 ) the pain elemental still has 5000 health, but it deals 2290 damage instead, so liek not even half

[rose thistle]

oh wow

fr? that's kinda nuts damn

bfg is probably better used just to stunlock them for a bit if anything, then

[young mango]

spirit stun resistance 😢

the only thing that stuns them is microwave beam

[rose thistle]

WHAT

goddamn those guys are crazy

[tranquil birch]

collect.. my.. slayer... GATES!!!!!!

[glossy warren]

doom try to have good gameplay design challenge

[glossy warren]

he hath been sumoned

[safe raft]

those things are hard af

[young mango]

but you can also fire the BFG before they get possessed which will kill both of them, and on current patch I think the spirit possession is longer so you can get both of them

[fleet tide]

Hello

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/-L5ufUd1Pco?si=qvMm_Xynu09fyxzr

[rose thistle]

WHAT

hey actually why can Samur even summon demons
aren't they like
the opposite of what he's meant to be

[young mango]

it actually makes no sense according to the lore, m0nologue himself thinks it’s ridiculous

[safe raft]

I just kicked the icon of sin's ass

[rose thistle]

@azure oriole what's the deal with transfiguration? is it ever explained beyond that it like... is a thing that happens?