doom-eternal

[empty basin]

I mean if you can hear it reliably that's more power to you, I personally can't just rely on sound cues without a visual indicator to go along with it ingame

Which is why I personally don't really recommend playing with no HUD

[slow sigil]

yeah i also couldn't rely on just sound cues, but intuation also isn't crazy hard to get for those things.
plus like, generally i use them as bonuses, if they don't trigger oh well still killing infront of me

[fringe urchin]

might just be insatlling

your on ps+ right? the game installs in 2 seprate files one battlemode the other campaign

check your downloads again

[waxen drum]

Yes i on ps4

[waxen drum]

Ok

[waxen drum]

I was able to continue playing

[quasi hollow]

Hello everyone, I‘m currently playing a lot of Battlemode and looking for someone to farm the Bloodbath and weapon expert.

I know a lot of people dislike this and I hope I don‘t violate any of your rules with this request.

[burnt wasp]

Question about "One-Year Pass"

Does that mean I just buy DLC only exist for 1 year and after 1 year, my DLC is gone?

[small helm]

no, you see doom eternal was supposed to get more than one year of additional content but we never got more than both DLCs we have now

[burnt wasp]

I see... So "1 Year Pass" mean Doom Eternal after 1 Year update?

[small helm]

it means basically whatever was released in a span of year after game released, which in our case are the DLCs

[potent sedge]

i decided to try out dread knight in battlemode, won three matches in a row

either dread knight is really good or the slayers i went against were bad at the game

i feel bad for those slayers

[slow sigil]

It's year 1 pass, not the 1 year pass

[chrome wing]

I just beat Doom Hunter Base on nightmare for the first time!

Super satisfying to pull off

[foggy stratus]

yeah the doom hunters are difficult on nightmare, blood punching the shield helps a lot does a lot of damage to it

[chrome wing]

I didn’t even take out the shields, I just shot the sled with Ballista and rockets

I did this on my 100% save that might’ve been kind of cheating lol

[scarlet star]

Holaaa

[foggy stratus]

I meant sled

blood punch does massive damage to the sled

[chrome wing]

Ik

[young mango]

about 4x normal damage in specific

[full swan]

Super gore nest mastery mission got me f*cked up

Anyone got any tips

[leaden quail]

id say just react quick

i never finished the ml but yea just react fast

[full swan]

Damn

[leaden quail]

cultist base 🤯

[rocky lion]

wtf am i supposed to do on a level where i go get dr samuel hayden

did the game bug????

like it shows a red battle icon, which im at, and theres enemies behind a wall out of bounds

whats goin on with this game???

[leaden quail]

load checkpoint

itll prob fix itself then

[rocky lion]

didnt

bruh, i watched a walkthrough, some guys window was broken but mine isnt despite everything i do????

[leaden quail]

maybe restart the game

i dont think u need to reset the mission tho

[stable condor]

I just beat doom eternal nightmare in 1 day

[graceful kiln]

what would yall recommend on how to play Eternal on nightmare? The encounter right after they show you super shotgun has been really difficult for me, specifically when the Mancubises arrive

[young mango]

well on that arena if you want to be careful just open the boxes one at a time

[graceful kiln]

what boxes, im not on the encounter after you get it, its right after you see it

[young mango]

oh shit the pit encounter?

yea that one’s hard

[graceful kiln]

i dont know what i'm doing wrong, but I'm assuming its my positioning

i beat the first mancubis and then i died

im gonna rip and tear my pc if this keeps happening

I BEAT IT

[rocky lion]

this game iss literally broken

[strong badger]

how so?

[rocky lion]

i was riding an elevator and fell thru the floor while it was goin up

🤦‍♂️

[strong badger]

damn happened to me too

[stable condor]

I got glitched into an solid prop and could not get out

[sleek sonnet]

I’m working on ancient gods 1

[stable condor]

Same

[sleek sonnet]

Nice

The spirit hell baron tho…

[stable condor]

Where did the crucible go in ancient gods 1

[sleek sonnet]

Hmmm 🤔

[stable condor]

very weird because it didn’t get taken away at the end of doom eternal

[sleek sonnet]

Yeah, but in 2016 it did…

That’s a mystery

[stable condor]

Yea I got really sad because the crucible makes the game so much easier

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah it did?

[stable condor]

It did?

[midnight sparrow]

Did you beat the campaign? Doomguy stabbed the Icon of Sins brain with it and left the blade inside its brain

[stable condor]

Yea and I had the crucible after that scene

[midnight sparrow]

You can still use it when replaying levels after beating the game

It just doesn’t exist in TAG1 because canonically he doesn’t have it anymore

[stable condor]

Ohhhh

[midnight sparrow]

yeah

[young mango]

you literally break it off it’s hilt to defeat the icon

[small sierra]

aight bro what is going on with doom eternal

too many bugs

[young mango]

using the sentinel wolf in reference to bugs is probably something you didn’t even intend for but it’s so good because it’s true

[stable condor]

[small sierra]

what about

[ionic dagger]

[midnight sparrow]

Lost a run on World Spear because of those stupid wolves

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/whP9VPKiW1k?si=WnaC8IhQqyA586fu

beginning of run fountain is activated without wolf because the trigger for the fountain isn’t the wolf specifically, they just excluded the slayer from triggering it

[broken hearth]

I’m just sad about crucible don’t have infinite ammo no more

[rocky lion]

does using cheats count towards progress?

[foggy stratus]

you can use cheat codes when replaying a level and collect things you missed and itll still count, the only things you cant do are slayer gates (iirc with cheat codes on the key simply doesnt spawn)

[rocky lion]

o

[foggy stratus]

so besides the gates you can do everything while invulnerable super fast spamming infinite bfg everywhere lol

[rocky lion]

god that is so satisfying

so much destruction 😁

[stable condor]

Doom eternal so buggy

[acoustic python]

do people still play battlemode?

[inner moth]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

[novel token]

yes we are few, but still playing around

[potent wasp]

I just completed the Marauder fight after taking the Crucible from the giant’s chest. His dog was stuck the entire time and didn’t bother me. Odd, but relieved lol

[rocky lion]

wtf am i supposed to do now???

i run out of ammo, and theres no fodder enemies to use it on

🤦‍♂️ this game is great

[spare marsh]

wait and a fodder enemy will spawn. Chainsaw it

[rocky lion]

theres none spawwning

its like the remaining enemies that take like 3 fuels

[random vault]

the fodder spawns infinitely and the chainsaw replenishes infinitely

just like, wait 10-20 seconds?

[rocky lion]

been tryna run around waitin for the fodder to spawn for like 5 minutes now]

[random vault]

you can just like dash into a random weak enemy like a imp or soldier

deals damage until you can glory kill

[strong badger]

i think there is a cap on how many enimeies can be in one area so dash untill you kill some demons then some fodors should spawn

[leaden cargo]

am i only able to quickswitch between 2 weapons on console?

[random vault]

unless you can switch with the wheel or bumpers insanely fast, thats all you can effectively do yes

[empty basin]

No, you can bind the most relevant weapons in your arsenal to their own buttons

[random vault]

or that

[empty basin]

Go to Settings -> Controls -> Customize Slayer Controller -> Switch Layout to Custom -> Edit away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfpYhSOatCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mfjQqe6J-E

[warm canyon]

Do yall use bfg or unmakyr more

[random vault]

bfg

[wary tree]

Unmayker is just not very good unfortunately

[azure oriole]

its godlike for marauder

[austere bronze]

i dont use any super weapon

[azure oriole]

i use only on master levels

[austere bronze]

except for the hammer, but idk if that is a super weapon

[azure oriole]

nah its a gadget

[wary tree]

I'd say it is but it's too fun to not use

Unlike the screen cleaner that is the bfg

[austere bronze]

i feel like almost any encounter even on the modded levels gets too easy with the bfg

[azure oriole]

Im streaming taras nabad rn if anyone cares

the master level

[austere bronze]

i need to go and eat breakfast

[wary tree]

I like using my bfg on shield guys

Like when there's one left or something

[inner moth]

BFG

[unreal tide]

hey yall

why the 10 seconds cooldown

[azure oriole]

there's a buncha ppl in the server

[unreal tide]

btw how do yall quickswitch on m&k lol for me it's barely responsive

[azure oriole]

it'd be chaos

[unreal tide]

I've always played on controller on ps5 and it's so much easier

[azure oriole]

idk in playin on controller

do you play with aim assist?

[unreal tide]

m&k always misses my inputs but maybe it's just a problem i have

[unreal tide]

yea

[azure oriole]

can't say the same

[unreal tide]

i think it's fair because the stick deadzone is way too high to make accurate turns

[azure oriole]

i just bumped sensitivity to max

it seems pretty accurate to me

[unreal tide]

you gotta go 1/3 of your controller stick in order to get a proper input it's kinda insane

[azure oriole]

wanna watch me play?

[unreal tide]

you play on pc right?

[azure oriole]

ps4

[unreal tide]

i dont feel like it rn

[azure oriole]

k

[unreal tide]

the skill curve is so much higher on m&k tbh

[azure oriole]

yea

[unreal tide]

controller took a week to master for me

[azure oriole]

it took me a month

for aiming and shit, like quickscoping

[unreal tide]

for me it didn't take much to quick scope on controller but on m&k it feels like the shoot input is delayed

i think i just got a shit mouse and that's it

[azure oriole]

yea same, im playing m&k on fort and its kinda delayed on shooting

i just plug that bitch in the console and it works but mouse is delayed

[unreal tide]

on fortnite I'm way better on controller too

[azure oriole]

turning is sensational but weapon wheel and aiming is a lil bit off

i cannot play on controller fam

[unreal tide]

also i have to turn into a pianist to quickswitch more weapons at a time on m&k it's insane

[azure oriole]

im playing with pc friends most of the time

[unreal tide]

i have my weapon wheel at like 5 milliseconds delay

[azure oriole]

when im playing eternal on nightmare on controller i feel like im jacking 6 different men with 2 hands at the same time

[unreal tide]

lmao nightmare on controller is so much fun tho

[azure oriole]

mine is at 120

[unreal tide]

got through both dlcs on nightmare with controller

[azure oriole]

yep

[unreal tide]

I'm already having trouble on hurt me plenty with m&k

[azure oriole]

i dont got money for dlc

[unreal tide]

my run to get the golden weapons was so fun

[azure oriole]

you at least can get them, its almost impossible on controller

[unreal tide]

damn

grinded the game too much on controller

[azure oriole]

my friend who never plays eternal got goldies in a week on m&k

[unreal tide]

for me it was like 4 days on controller

[azure oriole]

to get goldens??

[unreal tide]

excluding the golden pump shotgun it's too hard for me to get

[unreal tide]

yes

[azure oriole]

goddamn

[unreal tide]

grind was insane

[azure oriole]

ultra nightmare always buggy for me

[tacit aspen]

Try staying on the mouse key, fire button, when you switch weapons

[unreal tide]

wait i never made a ultra nightmare run

[azure oriole]

for example a doom hunter got me trough a wall

[unreal tide]

you just gotta finish the second dlc on nightmare to get the golden guns

[azure oriole]

wdym golden suit is for ultra nightmare

[unreal tide]

I don't have the golden suit

[azure oriole]

oh, gotcha

[azure oriole]

well that's easy

[unreal tide]

second and third level would clap my cheeks on ultra nightmare

[azure oriole]

base campaign?

[unreal tide]

yes

[azure oriole]

the strongest fellow there is the fukin caco

i died at ultra on doom hunter base

[austere bronze]

nah, makes every fight too easy and it kinda feels like cheating even tho its not

[unreal tide]

I'm stuck on hunter base rn on m&k

the double boss fight is so goddamn hard

i can barely quickswitch on m&k

[azure oriole]

i got trough the double boss much faster than the buildup to it

[unreal tide]

my first ever run i didn't even know quickswitching was a thing lol

[azure oriole]

there's a room with a buncha enemies and like a bridge in the middle

goddamn

[unreal tide]

i was just bruteforcing everything with double shotty on controller

[azure oriole]

replayed this battle like 16 times

[azure oriole]

well that's just cheeky

[unreal tide]

if controller deadzone wasn't so high controller would be 100% perfect

[azure oriole]

imagine doing it with the ballista 💀

and not quickswitching

you played with xbox controller?

[azure oriole]

How do i kill archviles trough barriers?

[austere bronze]

do you mean those red barriers that stop you from going somewhere?

[empty basin]

which level are you referring to

[azure oriole]

figured it out

im on master level taras nabad

gotta kill the tyrants

holy fuck i did it

on ultra violence

[austere bronze]

nicee

[azure oriole]

thanks

[austere bronze]

have you tried any other master level?

[tame wolf]

Is it just me. Or are marauders just a pain in the ass most of the time? Like especially their dogs, their movement is to random for my personal taste.

[austere bronze]

yea, they are pretty annoying but not too hard to deal with so they arent too bad for me at least

[tame wolf]

Well I just started playing recently. And just beat the campaign on the easiest difficulty. And I wonder if theres a way to practice on a single enemy without worrying about 10 bazillion other enemies?

[austere bronze]

dont think so, im not sure tho

but you could find a place where there is just a marauder and practice there, and when you kill him just reset to latest checkpoint

[tame wolf]

I think I saw something in eternal mods. That might sound promising

[austere bronze]

aight try that

if you buy the one that says ancient gods part one you will only get part one and same with the second

doom is banned in some countries??

[tame wolf]

Guess they have already been corrupted

[austere bronze]

probably not if it only says part two

[austere bronze]

who are the best doom eternal players? i know that murican eagle is really good and maybe raitro but idk how good he is outside of speedruning

[young mango]

thx shadow mods

[acoustic lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[winter elbow]

I can't run doom eternal does anyone know how to fix it?

[acoustic lark]

With that amount of information probably not

[winter elbow]

can't upload the video here is there a ticket? or send to priv?

I sent you the video on priv

[azure oriole]

Sylar (retired maybe) sav (slayer vs Slayer), muted6 (got a slaughter map in the First try in UN),

[young mango]

and me :3 ( not actually, I’m mid )

[azure oriole]

I'm mid too

The think that makes a good Doom player good Is movement afterall

Combos are Just muscle Memory

[lyric lodge]

Chat is murican's controller grip worth my time to get used to cuz that shit look fye

[azure oriole]

No idea

What Is that for?

[lyric lodge]

Its a different hand grip for the controller

Ts awakened something inside of me https://youtu.be/NlHhTPRoxBs?si=8K6CawepPFNDg65s

[azure oriole]

It takes some time to understand if It Is worth It

But i'd you can give It 1 or 2 weeks, you Will Always learn something Is not wasted time

[lyric lodge]

Yeah, honestly looks like peak controller grip

[azure oriole]

It took me 10 or 20 Key rebinds to find mine on DE in 1000 hours

[warm canyon]

is controller or kbm better for doom eternal

[young mango]

of course I just knew it was going to be a claw grip

[lyric lodge]

Oh btw do you know why is it that when i try punch cancelling the pb the cooldown doesnt seem to be visible but yet is still there? Cuz i cant really shoot pb for a while

[young mango]

I’m just Zased https://youtu.be/EGfe9bMeLf8?si=-QmQRJxNCPb5b1bh

[young mango]

are you re-equipping the bind during the punch?

[lyric lodge]

The weapon mod? I do it after

[young mango]

no you don’t press the mod button you have to re-equip the weapon itself

[winter elbow]

KEX you can see the private conversation

[lyric lodge]

That just makes everything crazier

Ight imma go find a punch cancelling tut then

[young mango]

at that point pb punchswapping isn’t worth it if you’re trying to clear out fodder, just spam sticky bombs

[lyric lodge]

I wanna learn punchswapping itself tho

[young mango]

( assuming you’re on controller )

[lyric lodge]

Is punchswapping more complicated than just shoot punch shoot?

[lyric lodge]

Yeah i am

[young mango]

yes

shoot, punch, re-equip weapon during punch, shoot

but visually it just looks like shoot punch shoot, that’s why it confuses people

[lyric lodge]

Wait so on controller i have to open the weapon wheel mid punch?

[young mango]

yeah, or if you have a weapon binded to something you can use that

the only weapon where punchswapping has an obvious dps advantage is super shotgun

[lyric lodge]

Ballista too?

[young mango]

ballista has a slow bring up speed even with BATS it doesn’t match FSE speeds, a good pb rocket is better

unless you’re doing it to pain elementals or something

[lyric lodge]

Thanks a lot man

[young mango]

but hey if you have more questions, I can answer them, I may not be the best player, but I know my way around a tech or two

[lyric lodge]

Good to know

[azure oriole]

It's useless though

Unless you use It for super heavies with Rocket Launcher or ballista boosting

[strange gale]

ever thought about playing tekken?

[young mango]

I’ve never been huge on fighting games, but maybe, if you think I’d be good I could give it a shot

[fallen heart]

yes bind heavy cannon on controller for it and press it right after punch. The weapon wheel method IS possible but not worth

[young mango]

but hey glaskerino have you seen my epic speedruns

[strange gale]

i mention tekken cause it has execution heavy stuff up the ass

pdewgf (real acronym i swear) is 4 (technically 5 but the 5th occurs on the same frame as the 4th) frame perfect inputs in a row

[young mango]

well that depends on how many frames the game is played at

frame perfect at 30FPS ain’t that hard

[strange gale]

60fps

again, on 4 subsequent frames

[young mango]

damn

okay yea that’s insane

[azure oriole]

just saying i move with tfgh

[young mango]

insane

[azure oriole]

and all my swaps are done with my pinky

except chaingun which is with B

[young mango]

at that point you might be better off with default keybinds you’re straight up piano handing that

[azure oriole]

not really, these keybinds allow me to be very free with my movement

doing punch swapping while strafing left to right feels good

[young mango]

apricorum I would literally pay to see you do combos with nohboard on

[azure oriole]

what xD

[young mango]

with input overlay

[azure oriole]

oh lol

[young mango]

I need to see how you do this😭

[azure oriole]

ehhh practice

[young mango]

no i know but I need to see those inputs just to get a frame of reference on what you’re doing

[azure oriole]

ah wish i had a cam on my monitor

i can try to setup input overlay and record after this UN attemp for World spear though

[young mango]

bet

[marsh grove]

wearing thigh highs while you play doom eternal gives you a 10% buff against demons

[marsh grove]

huh i use my mouse buttons for ssg and balista swaps so i can easily that up unmayker and chaingun seems kinda odd to me but i suppose different playstyles and all, ive heard the unmayker is pretty underused by a lot of players and it can be quite ammo efficient if you use it properly but ive never personally played with it much

i respect it

[marsh grove]

personal preference but most people agree kbm is better for any fps tbh

[slow sigil]

unmaykr isn't really "underused" it's used about the right amount
aka never as using it is a waste of bfg ammo at best

it's not really ammo efficient unless you compare it to singular super heavies

and qua damage, swaps do like about as much?

[marsh grove]

what i mean by that is people dont utilize it into their playstyle as much as they could*

i just worded really badly

[slow sigil]

ik, and i'm saying that it is utilized\ the right amount. Cause unmaykr.... really doesn't unmake that well

[marsh grove]

ive seen it be pretty efficient before in tandem with ice bombs as long as youre only using as much ammo as it takes to kill a heavy demon

[slow sigil]

then you're still working with singular demons
the BFG straight up stuns or kills an entire wave, maybe even one and a half if you use it correctly

and the unmayker does about swap damage so it's not even like you're doing crazy DPS numbers

[marsh grove]

im not trying to make an arguement that its better than the BFG rn

[slow sigil]

they use the same limited ammo numbers, you literally can not talk about how good the unmaykr is without comparing it to the bfg

the opportunity cost is a vital part of it.

[marsh grove]

i really wasnt trying to start some annoying debate i was just trying to make a point about a weapon lol

[slow sigil]

yeah... a point that sadly isn't the case

eternal isn't perfectly balanced

[marsh grove]

idk i dont really think so, i dont think the unmayker shines very well in the base game but the DLC or master levels/modded levels where the game throws more heavies at you its more decent i feel, ive tested this in the past before in a room full of mostly heavies you can clear more heavies with the unmayker than the BFG, the BFG does leave them on pretty low health though, the unmayker will kill most of the heavies, its also better against the bosses, i dont really think this is much of a "one is better than the other situation" they are situational weapons imo and the BFG just fits into way more situations especially in the context of just the base game

BFG is generally better i will give you that

i just think it doesnt not have a place at all, plenty viable to work into your playstyle if you know how to use it

[slow sigil]

The more heavies, the more cost effective the BFG becomes.
It also doesn't just damage them a shitton, it also falters them for the duration, so the sliver they are left on can be easily wiped with just pb sticky if you really want to.
Unmaykr generally does... less damage against bosses for some reason? It's really weird idk why the game did that.
Unmaykr, again, doesn't even really do awhole lot more damage then swaps aswell, making it even less useful.
There's also the thing that if you shoot just a single unmaykr shot, you loose an entire bfg shot practically.

[foggy stratus]

ive never found the unmakyr useful even in scenarios where it theoretically would do well, simply because super heavies are almost never alone, and its more desirable to nuke everything else with the bfg and then just focus the super heavy with normal weapons

[warm canyon]

also i guess lots of people cant be bothered to play every slayer gate to get it

[foggy stratus]

I always get every slayer gate for completionist sake but the unmakyr is more of a trophy than an actual useful weapon

[slow sigil]

the real rewards for the slayer gates are the experience you do for completing them

[foggy stratus]

the extra weapon points are also nice

[slow sigil]

also, the BFG damages them and hard falters them, so you can just combo them whilst they get hardbaked

[azure oriole]

The BFG is the "better" weapon, but the Unmaykr is the better weapon.

[foggy stratus]

ice bomb and shooting a super heavy while they're being drained by a bfg tendril does quick work

[inner moth]

yea

[azure oriole]

As in the Unmaykr is better balanced and actually requires some degree of strategy and it didn't get turned into a lame "kill wave" button like the BFG.

[foggy stratus]

its a real shame, cause the unmakyr is a really fun weapon, but its use of bfg ammo completely kills it

infinite ammo unmakyr only runs are quite fun

[marsh grove]

it'd be nice if you could still shoot the BFG even after using some of the shells and maybe it could have been offset by having a less powerful BFG shot i feel like people might have used it more if that were the case

[foggy stratus]

also with the ammo if you're at 60 bfg ammo, you have 2 shots, you fire the unmakyr once, the slightest tap with it, and you're down to 1 bfg shot

[inner moth]

i use the BFG when i round up most of the heavies and just shoot

[warm canyon]

what new demons were added in TAG

[inner moth]

the ghost thing

wait i forgot the name

[marsh grove]

screecher, spirt thingy, armored barons

uhhh those mayker drones that jump into the air

idk what theyre called

i like the spirts being a call back to the summoner in 2016 that is neat

[inner moth]

also is it just me or did i see a helmet on the sheild soldier

[foggy stratus]

stone imps, spirits, armored barons, giant tentacles, blood makyrs, riot soldiers, those elite guard people in immora, screecher zombies, cursed prowlers, and turrets

[marsh grove]

oh yeah stone imps too

[foggy stratus]

think thats all the new enemies

[marsh grove]

cursed prowlers were just annoying lol

[foggy stratus]

besides the dark lord himself obviously

cursed prowlers are just "get back here you little shit" the enemy

[marsh grove]

hahaha

[foggy stratus]

they proceed to sprint 5 miles away immediately after lightly tapping you

its like they dont wanna die or something

[inner moth]

i thought the riot soldier would come in main campain

[foggy stratus]

nah they're too annoying

[inner moth]

because i think it was in the earlier games

[foggy stratus]

already find regualr shield soldiers annoying having to pull out the plasma gun to deal with them

but riot soldiers are immune to that so they're bleh

its 2016 shield soldiers all over again, but they come in packs

[marsh grove]

ii always just use explosives to take out the shild guys idk

[inner moth]

i just use meathook an then they move there sheild for a second so then i quick scope them

[marsh grove]

or ssg hook into them

[foggy stratus]

yeah just rocket behind them but I hate using rockets on fodder

[marsh grove]

i sticky bomb them lol

[foggy stratus]

at least the chainsaw goes right through the shield

[marsh grove]

i use so many sticky bombs

[foggy stratus]

sticky bombs are the caco killer

[marsh grove]

i use them a lot

i just balista cacos lol

[inner moth]

i used to use them a lot early game

[marsh grove]

ssg balista kills them

[foggy stratus]

I always did it before but in my nightmare playthrough I especially opted to do the sticky bomb into glory kill for cacos, usually flame belching them first for some armor

[marsh grove]

i like that area in mars core with a million of them because i get to cut them into 2 with the balista

master level*

[foggy stratus]

you dont have the ballista normally in cultist base but replaying it and getting to the part with all the cultists, destroyer blade is very satisfying there

bit of a waste but it hits the dopamine

[marsh grove]

yes

what master level is considered to be the hardest? or are the all generally the same difficulity

[foggy stratus]

I rarely find the destroyer blade useful but it gets points for being fucking awesome

[marsh grove]

the destroyer blade is useful if you can see the oppritunity but the times where stuff clumps together enough is rare

[foggy stratus]

usually the times where it would be useful is when theres a group of demons in front of you, but they're usually fodder in that case and in such cases I just explosive pb headshot them

it does take care of cacos but ive already said my preferred method of dispatching them

[marsh grove]

theres an area in teras nabad master that spawns like 8 spider mastermind thingies the odd time jump down and clump together and my fav way to take them out is ice bomb and fully charged destoryer blade, takes them all out at once and instanly spawns in the next phases of demons in like 2 seconds

whenever i pull that off it feels so good i always go for it

[foggy stratus]

my combo for arachnotrons is usually ssg to the body, ballista to the turret, ssg to the body again, usually staggers them

if not then another ballista shot to the body is almost certain to

[marsh grove]

yeah but theres TONS of times in the master level where i find that its pretty useful esp if youre in some small confined space

[marsh grove]

yeah thats mine to for single target

[foggy stratus]

shoutout to that one arachnotron you encounter right after a checkpoint in exultia

(I farmed sticky bomb master by reloading the checkpoint on him)

[marsh grove]

ssg balista is prob my most used como i have both of my mouse buttons its hard to beat its ease of use

compared to stuff like PB balista that i find is kinda hard

[foggy stratus]

I get ssg ballista together and then just use q to swap between them to combo

with big ones like tyrants its always ice bomb, flame blech, start blasting with ssg ballista

[marsh grove]

yess

[azure oriole]

you should slob with the ice bomb

is pretty easy to do just requires a bit of timing

[marsh grove]

with tyrants if youre perfectly timed you can one cycle them with that combo too

[foggy stratus]

making sure to get behind them so when they unfreeze they still have to turn around and usually they die before they can

[foggy stratus]

no idea how to do that and im not really interested

[azure oriole]

do you use lock on burst?

[foggy stratus]

yes but only when ssg ballista isnt available

[azure oriole]

it is the highest dps weapon in the game but i get you

i don't use it either, and i'm doing fine in Maste Levels

but if you use it you can Precision bolt then swap to rocket launcher, shoot a rocket, quickly press right click and you get a double lock on burst very quickly

[marsh grove]

yeah thats the nice thing about doom eternal, it leaves itself open to lots of playstyles even within higher level play

[azure oriole]

combined with the ice bomb you melt down super heavies

[azure oriole]

the mod i made pretty much removes the cheese from using LoB

[foggy stratus]

yeah I was able to beat nightmare just fine and the most complicated combo I used was ssg ballista, never even put a 3rd weapon into the loop like most people do

[cloud zenith]

hello

[azure oriole]

if you want to complete the game master levels you will either be forced to use energy shield, lock on burst and kind of ballista boosting, otherwise just spam ballista boosting

the campaign is just the tip of the iceberg...

[marsh grove]

if you dont want to use lock on burst as much, you dont have to, if you dont like the PB as much, you dont have to use it as much and youll still probably be okay as long as you are using one or 2 viable weapon combos, you dont HAVE to do PB rocket, or HAVE TO do ssg balista. ectect one might be a better than others but we can all agree theyre all plenty viable ways to play this game which is part of the reason why i love this game. i remember the first ime i saw someone do PB rocket i thought that was crazy i would have never thought of doing something like that

[cloud zenith]

i just bought the game 1 day ago and i have played the campaign little bit but who wanna play battle

dulex idithonm

shit

[azure oriole]

have you ever seen pb ballista as fast as pb rocket?

[foggy stratus]

im going to do a few more playthroughs of campaign nightmare before I even think about master levels or even tag nightmare, I still need to get a stronger hold on the combat flow, I was able to beat nightmare yes but I really just scraped by, I need to refine my combat

[cloud zenith]

damn

[azure oriole]

remember is a movement shooter, rely a lot on dashing meathook and ballista

[foggy stratus]

I already do that plenty

[cloud zenith]

oh

[azure oriole]

even when you chainsaw or glory kill, point at your feet and jump + ballista boost

that usually help against a group of enemies surrounding you

[foggy stratus]

I know how the combat loop works its just a matter of improving mechanical skill for me now

[marsh grove]

yeah PB rocket is silly lol

[foggy stratus]

basically I know what to do, now I just need to practice

[azure oriole]

i'm glad you are enjoying the game

[azure oriole]

the question was another tho

[marsh grove]

i havent because isnt PB rocket like the fasest and the highest damage in the game something

[azure oriole]

the highest damage in the game is SSG melee punch swap

[foggy stratus]

ive been playing it for a while, usually on itytd cause I find being overly powerful to be fun, but recently dipped into nightmare to force myself to improve, and just one playthrough of that has caused me to improve dramatically

[marsh grove]

one of* then

[azure oriole]

then Slob, then PB rocket then PB Ballista with mod swap

oh right, double dblade too, it is the highest burst damage

but dps wise SSG and punching kills a tyrant in like 2-4 seconds

[azure oriole]

i remember dropping the game for a while after completing my SGN UN, it felt really bad, the skill ceiling in this game is high

[foggy stratus]

yep its a game where the highest difficulty is so hard I can confidently say I am really good at the game now but far far from being capable of un

one day, perhaps

[azure oriole]

look, ignore all the people that think that UN makes a great player in base campaign, and i say that because UN campaign is all about repeeating the same thing over and over and over and over again

is not really about improvisation, so don't really bother about UN campaign, is a gimmick feature

[foggy stratus]

its definitely not worth it for the golden skin, though that is a neat trophy, its about the glory, the self fulfillment and the feeling of "fuck yeah I did it", thats what im hoping to achieve eventually

[azure oriole]

in 1500hours i didn't do it, not because i can't but because is a waste of time and improvement

[foggy stratus]

but as I said, I am not ready for it, its gonna be a while before I start racking up attempts

[azure oriole]

indeed when i did TAG 1 UN casually I did it effortless and in a good time, thanks energy shield

[marsh grove]

yeah i was never interested in replaying the game once i was fully kitted becaue it just didnt feel as fun

i just wanted to play more harder stuff that required my full arsenal

tbh i still haven't beat most of the master levels im getting pretty close though, im honestly thinking of throwing myself at it until i beat it today as long as i can beat it before i have to go out for dinner in like 5 hours lol

[vast flare]

I lost all my level in Doom, but I still have the cosmetics and items, I don't have any master level unlocked but I have the campaign completed, could someone tell me what I can do?

[young mango]

your profile.bin probably got reset

it’s a bit of a hassle but just complete the campaign to re-unlock the master levels and whatnot, your keybinds have also probably been reset to default if you ever changed them

[marsh grove]

i swear the fucking area in mars core with the 2 marauders and constantly respawning enemies is the hardest part of the whole level that shit is so hard

[azure oriole]

You Better kill the First marauder with lock on burst

There are no faster ways

[marsh grove]

OH MY GOD

I JUST SPENT LIKE 3 HOURS GETTING TO THE END OF MARS CORE TO CRASH

on the third fucking attempt of the last section im so fucking done bro what the fuuuuuuuck

man thats so fucked up

i have to do that whole muradader section again because of a stupid ass crash

[storm field]

Bruh ı completed taras nabad master level on UN this was very hard

[vocal folio]

I haven't played on UN yet, but I have beat everything except the Master levels on Nightmare

Also haven't beat the Horde mode

[wary tree]

I feel you, been there myself a few days ago

[strange gale]

chaingun shield bulldozer tho

[azure oriole]

It got fixed

[strange gale]

why are you so confident about that

have you actually confirmed that it is patched

are you absolutely certain you didn't just misinput it

[azure oriole]

I Remember speedrunners not doing It at all

I May Be wrong but It Is also true they have categories so It Is banned in the restricted

[young mango]

yes it’s banned in restricted, and ontop of that, the only unrestricted route that uses a bulldozer patch is TAG2, which probably explains why you haven’t seen it much because that’s the least popular to speedrun

[young mango]

literally https://youtu.be/ATXuAQbFICI?si=LgIDvox296StLXi0

also I just realized I could’ve brought up the shield on the green light to REALLY instakill him but i didn’t think abt that

[azure oriole]

Ragdoll moment

[rocky lion]

when demons r fighting against each other, r they actually damaging each other?

[azure oriole]

Nope

[graceful kiln]

would yall recommend maxing ammo or armor first

[slow sigil]

Max out the crystal upgrades first

[graceful kiln]

they're both for armor for blood, i maxed everything else (as in sentinel crystals)

[slow sigil]

It's a neglible difference

[graceful kiln]

ok armor it is

[slow sigil]

You'll most definitely not go "damn, if i just upgraded health instead!!"

[azure oriole]

Fr, I would just blame myself for not being cautious and not fast enuf

[marsh grove]

Yeah armor is generally better just because you get so many opportunities to so flame belches which refill your armor

[graceful kiln]

fair+super shotgun max level

[loud jasper]

hola soy latino

nadie va a enter estos mensajes

[azure oriole]

Dem

[rustic wasp]

yo si xd

[azure oriole]

ainglish ples

[rustic wasp]

[lost zephyr]

Sup yall

[fickle dagger]

i just beat tag2 so i joined the server cuz why not

that was awesome

[rustic wasp]

[fickle dagger]

[young mango]

tag2 is goated

[azure oriole]

Yeh I like the big fight even tho the final boss is underwhelming

[fickle dagger]

yea yea i didnt hate tag 2 i actually liked it

specially with how badly tag 1 kicked my ass im actually glad 2 is easier 😭

[inland kite]

guess the demon:

a buff totem with legs and health

[fickle dagger]

archville?

[inland kite]

yes

[fickle dagger]

[inland kite]

ok how about this

annoying as fuck (i would waste all ammo types just to humiliate its corpse)

and yes even though im good at eternal

i still hate the whiplash

[marsh grove]

FINALLY

beat mars core master levelllllsedllwdl

fucking 4 tyrants at the end is hilarious

[azure oriole]

I like TAG2 as much as TAG1.

Never got the complaints, personally. The Sentinel Hammer rocks and I like the Riot Soldiers and Armored Barons.

[fickle dagger]

congrats!!!

[fickle dagger]

exactly

oh hey i have a lore question

why did doomguy destroy the father's life thingy?

what wouldve happened if he didnt?

[azure oriole]

If he hadn't, the Father would have taken physical form. He likely would have been able to stop Davoth, and the Maykrs likely would have been remade.

[azure oriole]

There are multiple theories.
One thing to note is that the Slayer doesn't just hate Hell but Urdak and authority as a whole. The Slayer is in conflict with the UAC as well, and Urdak. Another thing to note is that the Father had the chance to permanently kill Davoth eons prior when he first betrayed him - but he hesitated and made him a Life Sphere instead.
It is possible the Slayer did this because he believed the Maykrs, if remade, could return to tyranny and the subjugation of other races. Or perhaps as an indignant sign of refusal against all deities, not just Davoth.
The title "The Ancient Gods" IMO refers to the Father and Davoth. The Slayer doesn't care for either of them. He fights for humanity, not for Gods.

Fuck all of them - the Slayer knows he can stop this himself and he doesn't give a shit about Urdak's wellbeing. Nor is the threat to Samur's life enough to sway him.

[fickle dagger]

that does make a lot of sense

thank you

i think samuel being samur and vega being the father is a lil forced

plus i liekd samuel bro

also im a lil confusedon what they said about davoth actually being the first or something

what happened there?

[azure oriole]

Davoth was the first known man in Doom's canon. The first being. He led the people of Jekkad towards a brighter future. He had immortality but wanted to make his people immortal as well, out of love for them. So he crafted the Father and the Maykrs, a supreme machine hivemind that could find the answer to immortality.

When the Father betrayed Davoth as they'd become convinced he was going insane in his quest to give his people eternal life, the Father turned around and crafted the Earthly realms. Maykr doctrine would then spread the lie that the Father was the first being, who had created Davoth.

[fickle dagger]

understand

thank you very much

[empty basin]

My own personal theory is that there's the risk of the Father continuing the Khan Maykr's plans to consume Earth if he was fully revived, since Urdak is still dying

No reason to keep that risk around when the Slayer can just crush it here and there

[azure oriole]

I find this fairly plausible as well.

I don't think the Father would want to do that. But does the Slayer know that? Does he want to risk it?

[small helm]

he had to go with a practical surefire solution to the problem at hand so makes sense

[burnt gate]

we can't use memes here?

[wind sky]

when a new event?

[nova sundial]

When yo mama 😱😎😎🥶

[golden meteor]

/video

[dense wave]

how to fast kill marauder in hord mode?

the noob who use dog and shield

[azure oriole]

The dog only appears if you shoot him when his eye ain't green

Use super shotgun, and ballista

Quickswitch those 2

Basically you have to be fast

[azure oriole]

Other demons can trigger it

[lyric lodge]

Use grenades for extra dmg too

Punchswap pb and full auto shotgun kinda works too

[warm lark]

how do I access eternals multiplayer menu?

[lyric lodge]

Its battlemode

[warm lark]

thanks

[dense wave]

what monsters?

[topaz elk]

how do I get past that one wall at thje begging of doom eternal (i cant sshot)

[slow sigil]

What wall

[azure oriole]

Anything that shoots projectiles

[topaz elk]

Should I DM you the img?

[slow sigil]

#screenshots

[topaz elk]

Ok

[slow sigil]

Have you tried punching it

[topaz elk]

Yea

The keybind for glory killing

It doesnt work

[glossy warren]

you need to put a sentinel battery into the mech arm

[topaz elk]

Where do i find it

[glossy warren]

once you kill all the enemies a door should open to an area you can explore, I dont remember how the level works off the top of my head

if you really get stuck then watch a playthrough or something

[topaz elk]

Aight ty

[azure oriole]

It should be E and when the Wall has Yellow cracks It means you have to open It through the sentinel cell

Or through environment mechanisms

[topaz elk]

Nnot this one

[topaz elk]

Didnt fibd it

[azure oriole]

Heh

So you Just entered hell right?

[slow sigil]

Theres definitely a sentinel thing nearby

[azure oriole]

Once you enter the organic cave with the gastric purple juices there Is a sentinel cell at the end

[topaz elk]

how do i activater it?
figured it out

[rocky lion]

Crazy how we can play 1993 on the computer

This game is cool

[willow crag]

And Doom 2

[rare juniper]

Hello, please I need help with a level (exultia) , Because the slayer's key doesn't appear and I don't grab it either since it won't let me open the door. Does anyone know how to fix it?

[willow crag]

Are you replaying the level with cheats?

[rare juniper]

Yes

[willow crag]

Then there's the reason. Cheats prevent you from accessing slayer gates

[rare juniper]

Oh okey thank you

[willow crag]

Np

[topaz elk]

doom 2016 > doom eternal

2nd time im stuck already

[foggy stratus]

I just completed 2016 again and I gotta disagree

there are some things I like in 2016 more, but eternal is way more tightly put together

[willow crag]

Where this time lol

[topaz elk]

idk i think DE is way more cryptic alreeady, buty im still at thwe begging so that might explain it

[willow crag]

^ This tbh

[topaz elk]

idk where to explain it

[foggy stratus]

especially balance wise, (almost, sorry full auto shotgun) all the weapons and mods are useful but not typically op, in 2016 some of the weapon mods (esepcially seige mode) were just completely busted

still fun though

[topaz elk]

also DE crashed my pc whe I put it on Ultra NM graphics

[topaz elk]

hmmm okay

[foggy stratus]

you put it on the maximum possible graphics and then are surprised your pc cant run it

[willow crag]

Full auto is useful in the first level to take down lone Arachnotrons

[foggy stratus]

literally the only time its used

they had to make an enemy specifically weak to it lmao

and its STILL not super useful for them cause the hammer works too

[small helm]

Just freeze em stone imps and hit with hammer

[topaz elk]

yeah but i wasnt expecting a BSOD with white lines - but still is my my fault okay

i overestimated the RADEON RX ^6700 XT

[azure oriole]

Eternal is definitely better.

Gameplay-wise, lore-wise, visually, and its soundtrack.

[topaz elk]

the cutscenes r really fun to look at

[willow crag]

They are fun to fight I promise

[foggy stratus]

microsoft pinball

[willow crag]

Sonic the Hedgehog for the Sega Genesis

[azure oriole]

Also reposting my TAG rewrite idea: #general message

Guys, it's in battlemod2.0 mode and I come across 4/3 times in a row on a guy who finished the story mode in ultra nightmare HELP ME

[willow crag]

Eternal confirmed that the Slayer is canonically a gamer, that alone makes it better

[foggy stratus]

he has a super elaborate pc gaming set up and he still exclusively plays classic doom on the crappy 90s computer next to it, based

[azure oriole]

No you didn't

I do 100fps in UN graphics with a 6650xt

Try to update drivers and check the vram

If It pass over your vram then surely a crash happens

[acoustic lark]

!memes

[eager storm]

I hope this helps you to understand why we limit memes so heavily in this community.

1. We want people to be here for DOOM and not for memes

In the past we had a population of users here which only wanted to throw some random memes into a specific channel. The health of the server suffered greatly from that and that's why we went so strict about it. Be here because you love DOOM and everything that comes with it and make sure there is some context if you post memes.

2. No oversight evolves into bigotry

Despite the fact that we have mods from multiple time zones to ensure this place is safe and enjoyable for everyone, there may be cases when we are not looking at the chat. If left unattended, the memes being posted will start to turn hateful, and it may take a few minutes for the moderation team to react.
We actively work to prevent this from happening.

3. Out of context memes kill conversations

This is by far something a lot of people have been bummed with. Since we got so many channels to pipeline discussions with like-minded people it could turn into a whole other mess if people just post random memes or other forms of content that can derail a whole conversation.

[azure oriole]

It Is before you Discover punch swapping, full auto Is a meme in the meta

[willow crag]

Huh

[azure oriole]

The dps of the full auto Is trash compared to any combo even ssg ballista and during ssg ballista you are pretty much very free to move

And by that i mean meathook spam

[wary tree]

I think I like 2016's artstyle more but other than that ye

[wary tree]

Ok that's a good point

[willow crag]

[midnight sparrow]

Chainsaw them

[willow crag]

You don't get enough fuel for every Arachnotron on the map tho

[young mango]

there’s only two mandatory arachnotrons in the entire level

[willow crag]

Pretty sure there's three or four

[azure oriole]

@willow crag if you want to get good at the game don't focus too much on combos or aim, or any fancy tech, the main tools for surviving are grenades, ballista boosting and meathook

use DBlade with grenades while charging, and whenever y ou can try to use the meathook for reposition

[young mango]

you can go the whole level chainsawing arachnotrons except two of them

[azure oriole]

spam energy shield whenever you are surrounded by enemies or post glorykill/chainsaw kill

blood punches are also a good tool for stagger heavy/superheavy enemies, try to have at least 1 of them always available

practice faltering and you will see taht playing the game campaign will be rather simple at some point in UN

oh and of course get LockOnBurst and Meathook upgrade for recharge in Cultist base

[willow crag]

I always get fucked by Cultist base lol

[azure oriole]

which part?

[willow crag]

Every part (except the first)

[azure oriole]

mmmh

do you use full auto? do you quick swap? you can have all the movement you want but at some point you may get exhausted

[willow crag]

No I don't really use full auto and I try to quickswap but I fuck it up very easily

[azure oriole]

the first combo you will learn is Precision Bolt + Sticky bomb, which is Hold left click and shot + swap weapon, very simple just need some timing

[azure oriole]

is a muscle memory thing, you just have to practice it, try to play ultra violence and patiently perform the PB + sticky bomb combo with infinite ammo and invulnerability

no pressure at all when learning

the only combos you need to be able to do consistently are PB + Sticky bombs, PB + SSG, PB + Rocket launcher

[willow crag]

I do swap between combat shotgun and the heavy cannon often, at least in the first stages

[azure oriole]

and kind PB + ballista, but that is not really a must if you can land your rockets

[willow crag]

That's why I have little trouble with Hell on earth or Exultia

[azure oriole]

ah true, make use of the heat blast

[willow crag]

I barely die in those

[azure oriole]

that's another aoe stagger very helpful at the beginning

[willow crag]

Yeah I already charge it up while idle. I prefer the Microwave beam overall but it's not very good until it's upgraded some more

[azure oriole]

microwave is a bit useless in terms of damage

but iget your point still, you want to kill asap before they kill you

so if you cana nd want, practice some basilar swap techniques

and when you reach Doom hunter base, start practicing with meathook

[willow crag]

Nah, Microwave beam can stun pretty much anything and I love the breathing room that it gives me

[azure oriole]

Hello, im trying the second wave of the gore nest in "reclaimed earth", but it's really hard, are there any tricks i missed for this particular section?

[willow crag]

That's why I like to use it

But again early game the heat blast is absolutely better

Microwave beam needs upgrades to shine

[azure oriole]

what do you have a hard time with>?

[azure oriole]

i usedup the ammo for the BFG earlier so i don't have that anymore

[azure oriole]

yeah but trust me, it removes your dashes pretty much, still, if you like it go for

also remember that Lock On burst shreds everything don't feel sad about using it, is agreat tool

[azure oriole]

the Marauder keep chasing me and i don't have enough area/ breathing room to deal with it

[willow crag]

Yeah but it's easier to combo the pb with remote det, also apparently barons and tyrants have a resistance to lock on specifically, I am not sure if that's true tho since I just read it somewhere

[willow crag]

I like to finish off and stun heavy demons with it so they're easier to combo is all

[azure oriole]

they take 700 damaage rather than 900

or 675

[azure oriole]

i pretty much disliked it but is it at the priest room?

the level is cbt which forces you to play with energy shield, that's why i disliked it. and of course it is thought for air control not movement at all. So you can lock on burst the marauder to keep it still in one place and focus on the other mobs

and when you are in a bad situation energy shield/grenade and meat hook again

[willow crag]

Yeah

[azure oriole]

probably you also get closed in corners too right?

[azure oriole]

it is still too low of a damage reduction for those 2 enemies, you melt them either way with the ice bomb

[azure oriole]

no, it's in a room with grass and plants on the concrete walls

[willow crag]

Fair enough but I have no ice bomb upgrades early game lol

[azure oriole]

oh dumb me i read tormented earth and not reclaimed earth sorry

[azure oriole]

do you know all the token locations? you would usually get them in a precise order and unlockp recise things in a pattern

[azure oriole]

in that case you just need to slob it

[azure oriole]

what does that mean?

[azure oriole]

no problem ofcourse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QwZhgWx6UU

[willow crag]

Oh yeah I've 100%ed the game before I ignore collectibles except for stuff like crystals, batteries and the tokens

[azure oriole]

the cheesiest way to kill a marauder and is kind of easy after some practice. Slob is Sylar lock on burst. Shot with the precision bolt, then swap to rocket launcher, shot with RL, left click as soon as you click right click and shoot twice with the lock on burst

[azure oriole]

that looks inhuman, damn

is actually easy 😛

otherwise you can arbalest and ssg, clear some fodders, use the meathook and energy shield in tight situations

i will try that, thanks a lot

if you have any doubts let me know

i will
maybe i shouldn't play on nightmare lol

i would play nightmare if i managed to get extra lives mode with ultra violence, one step at a time

[azure oriole]

i completed a big part of the main campaign and the start of the first and second one all on nightmare so far, so i don't get why im strugling so much

[azure oriole]

are you moving properly?

[azure oriole]

i feel fast for sure, sometimes hit the demons which isn't good

mmmh maybe is just a burnout

try to take a break or a walk would be better

[azure oriole]

feel like im getting better, so i doubt it
will try horde mode for a change

ayo that 's good

[topaz elk]

No it was like 7gb/12gb at yhe maximum

[topaz elk]

Bro the radeon softw is so shit i cannot figure out how to do it

[willow crag]

What even happened there lol

[azure oriole]

is not shit you just ahve to look in the game settings

[topaz elk]

In game settings to update drivers tho

[azure oriole]

heh? what are you trying to do xD

[topaz elk]

Update the GPU drivers with Radeon software

I’ll look it up

[azure oriole]

uhm

just check it in the first page of the tool, why do you make it so complicated?

[topaz elk]

Idk like 2 days ago I wanted to xheck my drivers and i looked at a page in the middle of nowhere, but it only showed the version of the AMD software, not the driver version

I looked up a YT vid and I think i might’ve checked the wrong page indeed

[midnight sparrow]

Ok then sticky bomb the turret and it’s easy from there

[willow crag]

Sticky bomb on the turret, mod swap and shoot it with the auto shot

[midnight sparrow]

That works too

Honestly as long as it works who cares?

[mossy ridge]

What the FUCK

i thought weakpoints worked in battlemode 2.0

But nope

Died so quick

Well got really low really quick

[azure oriole]

just download amd adrenaline

[azure oriole]

Get used to movement

[versed stream]

anyone wanna hop on battlemode with me so I can get goald

the battle modes (and ancient gods) are the only ones I don't have

[inland kite]

is it literally only me or does my skill decrease when im playing tag 2 or 1

ive noticed that and its strange

[spring panther]

some of the arenas are less open

[formal cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/super-shotgun-doom-doom-slayer-my-beloved-heart-gif-27227253

[vocal folio]

Truly, I wouldn't wish the Archville demon on my worst enemy.

[rustic wasp]

Yes, it was good for him to summon and escape because they had to make him attack and be very resistant.

[formal cypress]

Summoning is a cool ability but also giving him a ton of health is incredibly unfair. Whenever you get close enough to shoot him the summoned demons will end up attacking you.

Archville needs a massive nerf

[azure oriole]

Just crucible that guy

[azure oriole]

Nah it is supposed to be hard and it's tighter at some places too than usual

[formal cypress]

the first archiville encounter happens way before you get the crucible

he was a pain in the ass to deal with

[azure oriole]

Prioritise him first and be very aggressive

[formal cypress]

im stuck on the second encounter on taras nabad

he summons a lot of heavies and the room is really small

once you get close enough to hit him you get swarmed by all the other dmeons

[azure oriole]

Keep on moving don't stay at him too long

Move and do bunch of gun combos shit on him while moving

[lyric lodge]

My ass just bfg'd him

[azure oriole]

Lock on burst It

[versed stream]

doom eternal but every demon is an archvile that can only summon other archviles

[slow sigil]

you'll just hit the demon cap of 32

[empty basin]

already a mod for that
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1271

[azure oriole]

[untold quiver]

Hi just getting back into doom eternal after about a year or so of not playing. Have there been any big updates/ new content released?

[azure oriole]

Santa Slayer is real @untold quiver

[azure oriole]

someone actually did that lol

[azure oriole]

wtf is that nightmare fuel, holy fuck

basically fighting demons that split by mitosis

[azure oriole]

there is a custom unit called armored arachnotron

it absically spawns an arachotron on death lol

i saw that, it's cool

couldn't try it tho, im on console

oof

steamdeck by any chance

nuh uh, sry

[azure oriole]

took a break and finally got the "survivor" skin

[sharp stratus]

im kinda stuck at the place where you get the rocket launcher

[valid needle]

[stone pulsar]

New to DOOM, looking for anyone to play the campaign with sometime

[slow sigil]

the campaign is solo only

[stone pulsar]

Oh is that so? Thanks

[azure oriole]

there are some mods for playing coop

[marsh grove]

i found a good area to practice slobbing but im wondering if theres a good tutorial video anywhere i can find plenty of videos of people doing it but none of people doing it and also explaining how at the same time

man that is NOT easy lol

[azure oriole]

i finished the ancient gods part 2 on nightmare :D

[willow crag]

Nice

[marsh grove]

congratts

[willow crag]

Congrats

[marsh grove]

i remember the first time i did it the final boss was so fucking hard

[marsh grove]

now its time to do the master levels

[azure oriole]

it said i didn't own any master levels

[marsh grove]

i thoyght a few of them were just part of the base game were are they not?

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121477880199794698/1212109228035014727/image.png?ex=65f0a3af&is=65de2eaf&hm=32352d77f82ab9e801ee34bd5e7fa6bc2f5716b82b933a13860dae75588622c5&
They really could've found a better term for this tech.

[marsh grove]

hahahah

[azure oriole]

yes, just not for the dlc i thin

haven't completed part 1 yet...

[random vault]

shoutout to the fact that saying hoe is ok because it stands for hell on earth

[marsh grove]

ohh i seee

[azure oriole]

All Master Levels other than ARC Complex IIRC are in the base game.

There's one that isn't and it's World Spear for TAG 2.

[willow crag]

What is the tech anyway

[marsh grove]

damn i have arc complex maser level thats pretty epic

that one felt super easy compared to the other ones tho i heard it was before the devs knew exactly where they wanted to go with the master levels

i think that shows a bit

[willow crag]

I still need to do the super gore nest master level on ultra nightmare for the gold shotgun skin...

[marsh grove]

if i understand it correctly which i tottally may not, its a tech relating to quickswappig, quickswapping out of another weapon into the lock on burst is much faster

[willow crag]

Oh I think I heard about that

[marsh grove]

it allows the second lockon to be faster as well to

so you can throw 6 rockets out super fast basically in a burst

[willow crag]

Yeah

[azure oriole]

It's pretty lame I feel.

The others are better, especially SGN, Taras Nabad, and World Spear.

[marsh grove]

im trying to learn the murader one cycle with the SLOB im sitting here practicing it and getting nowhere lol

[marsh grove]

yeah i cant really remember the last time i came back to it other than the first time i played it it feels kinda like random placements almost, almost like someones first attempt as a doom map its weir5d

[azure oriole]

Yeah exactly. Unfortunate. I wish there was more support for usermade MLs.

[marsh grove]

im pretty excited to get into them but ive been putting them off until i at least beat all the master levels on nightmare

not UN tho lol thats like yeah lol far from my skill level atm

[azure oriole]

UN is lame anyway!

[marsh grove]

true!

[willow crag]

Yeah but I want the cool skins :(

[marsh grove]

i would consider trying UN base game since ive basically mastered the gameplay enough that i dont htink that owuld be much of a problem but fuck doing the master levels with that shit

fucking mars core double murader section easily takes me 10-20 times every single time i do it AS IF lmfao

[azure oriole]

I fuckin' hate the one Archvile section in Taras Nabad.

[marsh grove]

hahaha yeah sometimes i do that one first try and then sometimes it takes me like 20 its so funny

i swear i just get lucky, you have to be right on their ass the second they spawn in

[desert trellis]

is it still possible to get the pistol using console commands

[marsh grove]

as much as this is so hard and makes me pull my hair out its probably my fav section too because like normally they dont pressure you with much of anything when fighting muraders but in mars core the hellknights and regular fodder and cyber mancs litterally nevger stop spawnning untiul you kill the murauders first, clearing the area for and taking them out is not even an option

[azure oriole]

You must down patch for that

Or mod It but Is harder

[marsh grove]

lol i was looking up "doom eternal slog" to try to find more info and all i find are people complaining that eternal was too hard for them and calling the game a slog

[azure oriole]

Skill issue on their part.

[willow crag]

Suggestion: play on easy

[marsh grove]

ive actually never seen such a windly misunderstood game within its own fanbase, i think most people like eternal but theres some people who fucking hate it and most of the time their reasoning feels so flawed when they could be like "Well i wanted a more laidback expereince like 2016" or "i liked the look and level design of 2016" and thats comepletely reasonable

but most of the time theyre never saying stuff like that

[willow crag]

Yeah I prefer certain aspects of 2016 but overall I still like Eternal more

[marsh grove]

they dogging on the game for like reasons people like the game or they are quite litterally wrong about information

[willow crag]

I got into watching bad DE reviews recently on YouTube lol

[marsh grove]

yeah 2016 is great but to argue that the gameplay is faster is just ridiculus but there are peopl who will argue tthat is faster and a harder game and that eternal is just "not thought out gimmiks" where all of the new additions to the game work perfectly in tandem

[marsh grove]

oh god i found this really horrible one the other day it was so hilarious

ill dm it to you if youd like

[willow crag]

Sure go ahead

[desert trellis]

oh so, go play an older version on steam?

[willow crag]

Man I missed so many features they introduced in Eternal when replaying 2016 lmao. The dash, flame belch, blood punch, equipment launcher, ice bomb...

And the double jump on the early levels

And early air control rune

[marsh grove]

right... apparently thats too complicated for some people tho

which makes me wonder how you even played 2016 if a new type of grenade, and like 3 new mechanics is too complicated

either that or "its too bloated now"

[willow crag]

Heard that argument from someone in another server I'm in

[marsh grove]

its litterally a nothing burger statement haha

[willow crag]

That person said they completed Ultra Nightmare in both games but didn't know what the Blood Punch did

[wary tree]

I can kinda see that happening, compared to the other stuff blood punch is pretty forgettable

The same can be said about like frags or something but people are used to them

[willow crag]

But the frag grenade is insanely useful

(In eternal)

[wary tree]

Absolutely, but you don't NEED it the same can't be said for the flame belch or the dash

And the usefulness of blood punch is not as apparent as other abilities when you get it

[willow crag]

Well yeah you don't even need any guns except one technically. But swapping between them is fun and useful so why not do it

[willow crag]

It was very apparent to me due to the lack of melee damage in Eternal

[slow sigil]

that's why you always yell it smh

[wary tree]

When I got it the first time I was like oh neat a panic button and immediately forgot about it since I got the shiny double airdash

I had to actually experiment with it to see that it's really powerful

That's not very nice

[willow crag]

As soon as I saw the rune that let enemies drop health on getting blood punched I knew why I wouldn't wanna ignore it

[wary tree]

Fair enough, the game also reminds you about it like 4 times

But still, I can see how people would come to the conclusion that it's bloated, the game expects you to press lots of buttons I (and you) think that's really cool but if doom 2016 was already pushing it for you I can see somebody getting overwhelmed

[slow sigil]

people with severe skill deficiency

[wary tree]

I just SLOB it and it exploades

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-cat-fight-mr-fresh-cats-um-excuse-why-are-you-here-gif-11626294250740428269

mr edgelord wants ban for attention lol

[wary tree]

(plus I don't use that rune)

[willow crag]

Okay

I mean you can ignore a feature, you can't deny its usefulness tho

[wary tree]

I would if it wasn't bound to the same button as glory kill but as of right now it is so I want misinput glory kills to be slow

[wary tree]

Oh for sure, but you only know it's useful if you use it

[slow sigil]

luckily lower difficulties exist

[willow crag]

And if you ignore it while having it and it results in making your life harder it's your own fault

[wary tree]

The game is plenty hard even on easy to people who aren't used to fps games, most just don't go talking smack after

[willow crag]

I can see why as well
They're just wrong

[slow sigil]

to people who aren't used to fps games
well, simply put, eternal isn't exactly meant to be someone's first FPS game

[willow crag]

I mean I'm not very used to fps games (the first one I ever played I did so in 2018) and I didn't struggle with Eternal that much on my first run

[wary tree]

I mean, your right it's a bad take, but I can see how someone reaches that conclusion
Also 2018 was way before eternal came out

I'm talking about a person who's only played like Minecraft, Mario and tetris

[willow crag]

Yeah I know, I'm just saying I'm not as familiar with fps games as others

My childhood consisted mostly of nintendo games

And I enjoyed Eternal a ton after playing 2016 on Nightmare difficulty

And I picked Ultra Violence in Eternal and had a fun and balanced experience

Despite sucking at the game

[quaint root]

Sounds like you are just bad at the game🫤

We were all been there

[slow sigil]

yeah, and to them i would say that not every game is for beginners

[wary tree]

I agree it's great I just think not everyone is ready for games that require this many inputs just like people can see the path of exile skill tree and nope the fuck out

[azure oriole]

Eternal is definitely meant for experienced players.

[willow crag]

Eternal just isn't meant for Game Journalists

[azure oriole]

Also I'm reposting in this channel, made a post discussing how I feel about Eternal's direction. https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1b1ifrz/a_reflection_on_doom_eternals_story_and_why_i

[slow sigil]

then they can play it on a later time

[willow crag]

To be fair I'd moreso say Eternal is meant for competent players instead of experienced ones

[quaint root]

Tbh I have no rights to talk about this because I am kinda bad myself but I still completed the game 100% on ultra violence
But for some reason I didn't get the achievement of mastering all weapons even tho I did.

I also started a run on nightmare

[willow crag]

I can complete the first two levels on Ultra Nightmare pretty consistently

[slow sigil]

eternal isn't really that complicated, there is just a severe lack in complicated FPS games

[azure oriole]

I've beaten Eternal on Nightmare and I do not care for it. UV is the perfect difficulty.

[willow crag]

(I'm not very good)

[willow crag]

True tbh. Most fps games nowadays are just kinda boring

[wary tree]

Yeah of course, I'm saying you can look at something and say it's overwhelming and that's a valid opinion to have
The game isn't meant for people who suck but it would have been nice if they were also able to enjoy it

[quaint root]

I am on the second mission rn, I don't have a lot of time to really play doom eternal so I won't complete nightmare mode anytime soon.

[wary tree]

Being accessible and having and actually being interesting doesn't have to be mutually exclusive

[quaint root]

True, UV is perfect.

[willow crag]

It depends whether they are saying it personally or generally for me. Personally I get that, everyone is different after all. But generally it's just wrong imo

[slow sigil]

but they can enjoy it!
on lower difficulties, unless it's like their first game ever. There;s only so much you can really make it easier untill you just add an invincibility mode

[azure oriole]

I wish Nightmare difficulty, instead of cranking up damage taken more, was just UV but with more monster spawns. I miss different monster spawns in OG Doom.

[willow crag]

Yeah that was a cool concept

[quaint root]

After I beat nightmare mode I'll probably start a UN run cuz I want that Gold skin.

[slow sigil]

i quite like how the levels stay the same, that way you don't have to learn whole new spawns just because you up the difficulty ALONG with more difficult mechanics

[willow crag]

Same. I cannot beat cultist base tho

[wary tree]

I really like eating stupid damage from a zombie slap, I do wish there was another difficulty that had more enemies though

[quaint root]

Tip: shoot every single thing that moves.

[slow sigil]

tbf if you're getting hit by a zombie then... yeah

[willow crag]

Oh shit why didn't I think of that before

[wary tree]

well they can but again, I wouldn't blame you for taking one look at the path of exile skill tree and never touching it even if I think they would have enjoyed it

[quaint root]

I don't know

[slow sigil]

yeah, and i wouldn't blame the devs for creating a game for the people fully comited to the genre

[willow crag]

Honestly Cultist Base is the most bs level in the game ngl

And no I'm not just coping I swear

[wary tree]

I think not being accessible is a flaw, it just pails in comparison to everything the game get right

so it doesn't matter much at ther end of the day

[quaint root]

I'll be honest the first playthroughs I've watched of both DOOM 2016 and Eternal were from Markiplier.

[willow crag]

It's refreshing to have a game that strives to do one thing the best

[willow crag]

And nah I think keeping game journalists out is a positive

[slow sigil]

so people who like super specific skill trees can just never have a game for them?

[willow crag]

I dunno I'm okay with having games that can't be finished by a toddler

[slow sigil]

there's almost always (well, except fighting games i suppose) are entry level games

[wary tree]

of course they can, nothing is perfect and we really shouldn't pretend it is and we can acknowledge that some things or done poorly or come at a cost

[slow sigil]

games meant for the people dedicated are much more rare

[willow crag]

I mean I'd rather a game excel at its design than forcefully dumb itself down so it can appeal to everyone

Too many games do that already imo

[wary tree]

I don't really like giving fighting games a free pass for being difficult either (I've played guilty gear and blazblue for a couple of years now for what it's worth)

[willow crag]

But I do think both kinds of games should exist

[slow sigil]

neither didd i, i just said there wasn't really entry games for that one

[wary tree]

I'm sure the game could have been more accessible without meaningfully changing the experience for us people who are willing to die a lot and get good

[quaint root]

Play more, whenever you have time just use that time to practice, to play. I'll be honest horde mode completely helped me and it got me to use more combos.
I suggest you just play Horde Mode, it also introduces you to demons from The Ancient Gods part 1-2, and because of it, it will force you to use more weapons and melee attacks like blood punch, flame, ice and the Grenades.

[willow crag]

Yeah but "I'm too young to die" is plenty easy. If you can't clear that then it's a skill issue

[willow crag]

Extra Lives exist

[wary tree]

yeah I know it's another rant I have. I play FGs and they aren't inherently harder than other genres (FPS, MOBA, RTS, etc)

[quaint root]

Yeah but you can't just constantly use it

[wary tree]

they don't really healp the people who really suck at the game since they probably die multiple times on each encounter

[wary tree]

you kinda can if you're managing your resources well but that's hard

[willow crag]

I'm sorry but you can replay the first level over and over and just farm extra lives until you have enough to beat an encounter

[quaint root]

I literally use extra lives, I have like 90+ of those in my original run

[quaint root]

True

[slow sigil]

theres only like 4

[willow crag]

There are way more
And also you can replay levels

[wary tree]

you can??????

[quaint root]

Did you know you can go back and replay missions constantly to get extra lives?

[willow crag]

Yeah lmao

[slow sigil]

fuck i meant to type 49

[willow crag]

Oh lmao

[wary tree]

I thought they disappear after you pick them up

[willow crag]

Yeah but only during the level, you can revisit them and gain as many lives as you want if you're willing to spend the time

[wary tree]

I don't play with extra lives to be fair so I wouldn't really know

but that's pretty cool
I like it

[quaint root]

I always go back to old missions to practice and I even pick up some extra lives on the way.

[willow crag]

Yeah that's cool but there really are enough mechanics to help out bad players imo

At a certain point it's really a personal problem, not an issue with the game

[wary tree]

I guess there's also sentinel armor that I forgot about

[willow crag]

Yeah that makes sense

[slow sigil]

only during bosses though

[willow crag]

Yeah that as well lmao

[quaint root]

I wonder which person has the most extra lives in one save slot

[willow crag]

Really? I thought it can activate anytime if you die enough

[wary tree]

oh really? thought it was always a thing,
but anyways, I think the game could have enjoyed a debug menu with a warning or something - kinda like how celeste did it

[willow crag]

Don't they cap at 99 actually?

[quaint root]

My dream at having 200 is ruined now

[willow crag]

Yeah sorry but I disagree

[willow crag]

I actually don't know, it's possible you can collect more

I just always thought they cap at 99

I could be wrong tho