doom-eternal

[strange gale]

the rocket rain isn't really a threat since it has a super obvious sound cue and visual tell, the attack takes a while to actually start, and the blast zones marked on the ground are relatively small

the shark fin waveblast has stupid tracking at high fps but it's just one attack

[static vortex]

i think the main concern would be running out of ammo trying to kill it

[strange gale]

tyrant melee is not a concern since they never fuckin move

you have infinite ammo

you can kill a tyrant with 13 sticky headshots and stagger with 12, it's not that bad

[static vortex]

would his point make more sense if it was a baron or archville instead

[strange gale]

i'm fully serious when i say this, i don't think having a single archvile anywhere after you get pb would change that much

you can use level geometry to avoid its fire projectiles, and you can jump to avoid the flames it summons underneath you

1 pb breaks the fire shield and another falters

1 baron anywhere in the level would be scary though

you don't have the mobility or the damage output to invalidate it

the problem with this is you're implying the turret was threatening pre-nerf

lurch hopping or even just counter-strafing (both of which are available as soon as you can move in level 1) made the shot leading a non-issue

you could always just pb the turret to make all of this irrelevant, and if the spider is possessed, lob is still hilariously strong there

i.e. the nerf makes no fucking difference in practice

[waxen field]

I meant in regards to a newer player

[strange gale]

a mayo classic

[waxen field]

Though even like a medium player really I still get hit by stupid things a decent amount

It’s probably easier on pc to hit their turret like frame 1 though

Tbh you can argue everything except those stupid wave attacks are easy to dodge once you’ve played the game enough

In regards to the other commenter though a tyrant on the first level would be more tedious than hard. Tyrants take 10 years to do any attack that isn’t their easy to outrange melee

[jolly igloo]

I feel like Turrets peaked with the marauder bubble fight in the blood swamps

And in horde mode too

[spiral echo]

Weapon related milestones appear to be broken

If mastery tokens are used in mastering all mods of a weapon it gives you the milestone but not the rewards and locks you out of the gunpletionist steam achievement

It also does not give you the reward for achieving the gunpletionist milestone

Seems like a really glaring issue to have in the game after so many patches

[slow sigil]

yeah for a while

you can do it again on another save and can be fixed hten iirc

[light wyvern]

So I rarely get to play Doom and from what I have heard TAG 1 and 2 require combos and other tactics

So how screwed am I?

@ me if you respond

[slow sigil]

They do not

[light wyvern]

Oh

I thought it meant like super shotgun and ballista combos

And meathook airstrafing

[slow sigil]

Still don't require them at all, and you should just be able to do those even with most disabilities

[light wyvern]

Thank god

I rarely get to play and i have a potato of a ps4

So thats a fun saver

[jolly igloo]

unpopular doom opinions time: go!

[strange gale]

hot take: i'm taking a nap. bye bye

[jolly igloo]

:0

so hot!

[light wyvern]

The combat shotgun is both balanced and unbalanced

The baron is less powerful than a zombie

The tyrant would be fun in bed

[jolly igloo]

i dont hate the fact that the dark lord is a super marauder.

[light wyvern]

Theres three

[jolly igloo]

i do wish he had a few more unique attacks tho

[light wyvern]

Well it was covid year so yknow

[slow sigil]

Stickies make the shotgun bleh as they are too strong, there instantly is no real reason to use the basefire anymore at all

[light wyvern]

I use stickies only on special things like mancubue cannons and arachnotron turrets for that reason

I like to run around with quad damage, the classic slayer skin, and the classic skin for the shotgun so i can act like im playing Doom 1993 with ultra high graphics

[jolly igloo]

also microwave beam's more useful than heat blast imo

[light wyvern]

I use microwave for big enemies or just to soften bigger enemies up

Ive never actually used heatblast correctly

[jolly igloo]

i think people just overthink microwave beam cause it's basically a mix of the stun bomb from 2016 and the solem vow from team fortress 2

[light wyvern]

And im going to try a new tactic that involves me using flame belch and chainsaw at the same time

Hang on how solem vow?

[jolly igloo]

the solem vow lets you see enemy health bars

[light wyvern]

Isnt solem vow just seeing enemy health and slower firing speed?

[jolly igloo]

yea basically

[slow sigil]

Yeah but both are kinda bad

[light wyvern]

I dont see that honestly

Plasma rifle feels op but not op at the same time

[jolly igloo]

idk i think microwave beam is especially valuable against pressure demons like barons

[slow sigil]

Aleo it's not an unpopular opinion lol

[jolly igloo]

also uhhhhhhh mobile turret is the weakest weapon mod imo

[slow sigil]

There is full auto

[light wyvern]

Ok shit starter lmao

[slow sigil]

Also, again not unpopular....

[jolly igloo]

...ok?

is hot take hour, so

[light wyvern]

I always use base shotgun with sticky bcuz full auto is hard to use to me

[jolly igloo]

yea me too, but tbf, im on ps5

[light wyvern]

Im on a potato ps4

[slow sigil]

Those are both not hot takes though lmfao

[light wyvern]

Ur one of those rich kids lmao

[jolly igloo]

i sorry, i need to play the spider mans🥺

[light wyvern]

Not a hot take its just my opinion

My gameplay rly

[azure oriole]

Full Auto isn't good.

[slow sigil]

Another none hot take

[jolly igloo]

ok now here is hot take

[azure oriole]

You're picking the, like, objectively right choice. Full Auto sucks.

[jolly igloo]

oh ok nevermin-

[light wyvern]

I didnt say full auto sucks

I just have a hard time using it

And i forget to use it so thats on me

[jolly igloo]

ok here is maybe hot take: i dont like the music in uac atlanta

[light wyvern]

I forget the music sound lol

I just vibe with meathook and bfg division

[jolly igloo]

👍👍

[light wyvern]

That and metal hell

[jolly igloo]

what else is there?

uhhh i dont like the caco redesign all too much compared to 2016's caco?

[slow sigil]

Full auto has a small niche, when you're playing hordr and want an easy time capitalizing on a 4x

[light wyvern]

Bruuuuuh im too out of the loop to understand any of this shit lmao

I just get gun out and shoot demon

I examine shit later

[jolly igloo]

i like to use full auto as a makeshift chainsaw for when im saving up 3 chansaw charges for a heavy demon

[light wyvern]

I havent even completed the base campaign yet for eternal

[jolly igloo]

ah oke

well just know that the mastery for full auto is real good

[light wyvern]

Ik i got it

Im all the way up until the khan makyr fight

[slow sigil]

But then you're limiting yourself to only ssg and fa, which is quite slow

[light wyvern]

Whats fa?

[jolly igloo]

full auto

[light wyvern]

Oh

[jolly igloo]

also you can just switch to grenades before you enter an arena

[light wyvern]

Its sad that i own every single doom game yet i cant play them bcuz i never have time

[slow sigil]

Or just unbind weapon mod swap as it's unneeded

[hazy spade]

If say grenades are better imo

[jolly igloo]

if only i could do that on conso-i can but using the d pad to switch to weapons that arent the crucible or hammer throws me off so hard

[light wyvern]

I wish we had grenades in Doom 1 and 2 bcuz we did get them in classic teamfortress but that was after Doom 1 and 2

[hazy spade]

Console on doom is quite hard tbf when compared to pc the only gun I can rly duo with is the ballista and super shotgun

[light wyvern]

Plus grenades would fit due to doomguy being an actual marine

[slow sigil]

Rebind something else and put that on the dpad

[jolly igloo]

no >:)

[light wyvern]

Bro i have trouble with that lmao

[hazy spade]

There's alot of spamming

[light wyvern]

Im slow and my ps4 is a potato so whenever i fight a marauder i straight up just use only the super shotgun

[jolly igloo]

yea but once you get used to the positions on the weapon wheel, it becomes a bit easier

[light wyvern]

And if i see one powered by a buff totem i pause the game, pray, then cry after i die in seconds

[hazy spade]

Fighting a marauder thats posseded is disgusting

[jolly igloo]

i can just barely do a single pb rocket

[slow sigil]

Why not pb combs

[jolly igloo]

it is possible, but it's hard to get the timing right

[slow sigil]

You know you can hold fire for rocket and aim for pb right

[hazy spade]

Fr

[slow sigil]

You only need to time the shooting of pb
Nothing else is really timing

[hazy spade]

Usually just use the bfg it make him aim somewhere else

[jolly igloo]

ok i guess that leads into my next hot take: the precision is...kinda boring?

[slow sigil]

Without swapping, yeah kinda

[jolly igloo]

although i guess i just dont like sniper rifles in general

[slow sigil]

Still better then all the "i shoot fast" guns

[light wyvern]

Ive actually never had my game crash due to bfg

[hazy spade]

It's satisfying destroying a weak spot at 50 mph

[light wyvern]

Its never actually crashed

[jolly igloo]

even with swapping, i just dont really care for it all too much. I still use it, but i feel like the other weapons are more interesting

[slow sigil]

I mean being a semi beefy weapon that speeds up your swapping is interesting enough

[jolly igloo]

that's just me tho

[light wyvern]

Ima head out

[jolly igloo]

ok have a good day :)

[light wyvern]

Cya have a good one

[hazy spade]

Somehow have managed to get pretty cool photo mode shots tho

[jolly igloo]

i keep forgetting doom eternal has a photo mode

[hazy spade]

Same it's in beta for idk how long

[jolly igloo]

is it still in beta?

well...shit.

[hazy spade]

I've got 1 of them for my background on ps5

[jolly igloo]

only "photo mode" i use nowadays is gmod cause it's basically sfm for people that don't have sfm

[hazy spade]

I use to play gmod when I was little

[jolly igloo]

is a good sandbox game :)

[hazy spade]

Probably the best tbf

[jolly igloo]

idk does minecraft count?

[hazy spade]

Ig

[jolly igloo]

it has a stigma, sure, but there's a reason why it's so popular

its pretty great and deserves it's success

[hazy spade]

Minecraft gets boring pretty quick tho without mods

Just played it to much ig

[jolly igloo]

yea

[spiral echo]

the hammer is awesome

[slow sigil]

Noone is arguing that it's not awesome

Just that it's completely BS qua game balance

[spiral echo]

and marauders are only hard when their ai decides to strafe in place forever

[azure oriole]

i think the titan/cyberdemon redesign is better than 2016

[spiral echo]

Fair

But ive seen a lot of people just say they hate the hammer

[slow sigil]

Well yeah it's just too stupid

[hidden delta]

Baron of hell in doom 2016 is imo better then in eternal

[slow sigil]

I wished it was even remotely balanced so i could use it without feeling like i'm barely playing the game

[azure oriole]

on that we can agree

[hidden delta]

Yay

[azure oriole]

the redesigns were kinda really hit or miss

like, yay! hell knights have eyes!!

but the baron looks like a different demon all together

[spiral echo]

Same honestly i think i wouldnt like it as much if it wasnt only for three levels

though the crucible can be used across doom eternal after teras nabad and i avoid using that too :p

[slow sigil]

Crucible isnt that op

[spiral echo]

not even in the master levels or un

[slow sigil]

Strong but incredibly boring aswell
Meanwhile hammer invites you to use it and using it is just bleh

[spiral echo]

Yeah

[spiral echo]

also idk how unpopular this is but i only ever use the unmaykr by accident because 60 bfg ammo is only 2 bfg shots so i just dont think it is ever powerful enough to wanna use that pool for it

Pretty much any sustained fire weapon or combo serves pretty much the same purpose

especially the chaingun and mastered heat blast plasma rifle

Am i just crazy

[slow sigil]

also not unpopular, unmaykr is just straight up worse except in scenarios where you don't want to use the unmaykr either

[spiral echo]

Oh ok so im not crazy and/or stupid

how far it has fallen since doom 64 where it literally replaced the plasma rifle and bfg

i still do slayer gates anyways though cause i always go for hundred percent

same reason i do slayer gates in ancient gods 1 despite only ever using the extra life recovery rune

[river rock]

Wish the support runes were a bit more interesting

[primal estuary]

the music in the new games isn't that good as everyone makes it out to be and the story in the eternal dlcs is just terrible

[azure oriole]

That second one isn't unpopular. Most seem to agree.

[slow sigil]

Story in tag1 was shackey but it wasn't terrible
Tag2....

[azure oriole]

i feel like after tag1 ppl just realized the story wasnt worth following anymore

I quite enjoy TAG's story as a whole. It's alright.

[river rock]

Agreed with the second one

[slow sigil]

No tag2 just retconned a shitton and took it in a really dumb direction because of time constraints

[azure oriole]

I still have yet to see any kind of real quality downgrade in the writing between the base game and either DLC.

[river rock]

I really didnt like once the game started to turn from scifi demons to maykr angels gods and devils

[azure oriole]

idk i rly liked 2016s story i feel like they could have kept that up in eternal

I mean it starts that in Eternal itself.

[river rock]

Same, the maykr stuff is kinda meh imo

[azure oriole]

true i mean eternal couldve been smth great but they didnt even explain huge plot points like the gaurdian coin thingys

My opinions are:

1. The DLCs have little story problems that the base game doesn't also have.
2. 2016's story is a bit boring; it is essentially a less well-written Doom 3 to me.

Eternal is where the universe these writers wanted to make actually begins to shine to me. Not exactly a masterclass in writing, but it succeeds in what it sets out to do.

yeah and ig the true story is still kill everything with a pulse so as long as they nailed that the actual story kinda takes a backseat

[azure oriole]

The coins are called Deagic Talismans. They are representations of a Deag Priest's connection to their Guardian - the Khan Maykr allowed them to pick a Guardian that, unless killed, would render themselves immortal. This is why the Slayer is required to kill their Guardians. By obtaining the coin, he shows them they are now mortal.

[azure oriole]

yeah ik and its actually a rly cool premise but the fact we have to read codex and watch yt videos to know that is where i question id software

instead they could totally just have vega explain it or smth

[slow sigil]

Not like yall wouldnt complain if they put the story first

[azure oriole]

The problem is, which would you prefer? These things to be explained in Codexes, or them to be in unskippable cutscenes like Doom 2016?

At least in Eternal you don't have to look at them.

[slow sigil]

.... skippable cutscenes? This isn't a one or the other scenario tbf

[azure oriole]

I get that, my point is having VEGA explain this concept to you wouldn't flow well either. The game implies what the coins are through the cutscenes well enough.

That's the conflict with Doom - the idea Doom can't have a story it cares about pervades its community, and so they're forced to railroad basically everything necessary to understand the plot into Codex files, otherwise fans get mad that the game is forcing a plot down their throats. Which they already got mad about with Eternal, with the more expansive cutscenes and dialogue.

[slow sigil]

Also i wouldnt recomend YT for lore, they too often try to put in their own fiction or use retconned story bits

[azure oriole]

If you're confused with lore, there's the guide in the pinned messages for this channel. You can also ping me if you have questions. Unfortunately not a lot of other sources are reliable, especially on YT.

oh rlly? ive been sticking to ppl like midnight and under the mayo which seem trustworthy to me

[primal estuary]

the ai turning out to be the god of all gods doesn't seem like a strecht to you?

[azure oriole]

Eh... Midnight makes shit up.

damn thats news to me

[azure oriole]

No, because the Father wasn't the god of all gods. It's still an AI. Eternal just told us it was made eons before we thought, and had access to more resources - enough to create a reality.

[primal estuary]

that is pretty much a god

[slow sigil]

Vegafather and davoth are both God for all intents and purposes

Untill the next game introduces megagod

[azure oriole]

Well, I'd argue Doom posits there's not really such thing as a God, and that the entities positing themselves as much are frauds and assholes. And that the argument of whether they are or not is pointless because they'll bleed either way.

If I were to criticize TAG for shitty writing, I'd bring up the Davoth twist, which comes out of nowhere and is constructed out of duct-tape. That's where my main criticism would lie.

Twist itself is cool. It's told very poorly.

[primal estuary]

there can be more than one god

[azure oriole]

The twists regarding Samuel being the Seraphim and VEGA being the Father are better, relatively speaking, and I don't have a problem with them.

[primal estuary]

those the worst ones imo

It's just so dumb

[slow sigil]

Yeah the concept is quite decent, lucifer's betrayel but turned upside down
The execution is godawful

[primal estuary]

"yeah uh I was actually an inmortal angel all along! And this lil robot dude? He was god all along too!"

[azure oriole]

Having more than one God waters down the criteria that makes a God a God. None of the entities in Doom are almighty, really.

[primal estuary]

a god doesn't necessarily mean it has to be omnipotent

[azure oriole]

Yeah I don't mind that. It was teased in the base game as well.

[slow sigil]

Vega being a makyr is a great decision tbf

[azure oriole]

None of them fit all the criteria anyway. The Father created our world, but there was reality before it, and it's just a robot, so it's not divine. Davoth didn't do all that much, nor is he almighty - he was just the first.

The criteria that makes up a God, in their case, is made up shit. It's artificial. The Father isn't divine except by his own standards.

[primal estuary]

does he control reality in any sort of way?

[azure oriole]

No. He just created it, and even that is said very vaguely. He doesn't control reality any more than any really smart robot with a lot of resources can.

Hypothetically a UAC-robot with enough energy and power could do the same thing the Father did.

[primal estuary]

that doesn't mean he's not a god

you don't need to be born a god to be one

[azure oriole]

Maybe, but the point is that if they are "gods" the title is superfluous and means nothing to the Slayer.

[primal estuary]

there's a whole series of games about that concept

[primal estuary]

we're not talking about what doomguy can't or can kill

[azure oriole]

I'm not either.

I'm saying functionally whether Davoth is a god or not means nothing. There is no reason to care about them, or worship them. In fact all being subservient to them does is fuck over your own world.

Doing that fucked the Argenta practically forever in the case of the Maykrs.

[primal estuary]

that's not the point of what we were talking at all

[azure oriole]

The term "God," in this case, is subjective. The Slayer is a God to Elena Richardson, but to Valen he is an equal, and to the Khan he's a pest.

[primal estuary]

the point is that it's stupid for them to even be hinted at being gods when previously they were established as something more grounded

[spiral echo]

My criticisms about ancient gods are lore inconsistincies with doom vfr which isnt a big deal but also the actual impact of destroying the father's life sphere and commander valen just kinda portaling in to immora despite the entire previous level establishing you have to go through the gate of divum to reach it

[primal estuary]

the perception that in-game characters have about the term is something different entirely

[azure oriole]

My point is that in Doom Gods as a concept are already relatively grounded within its universe.

[spiral echo]

also samuel just never showing up again which is also minor

[azure oriole]

VEGA and the Father really aren't that different in terms of how they operate within Doom's rules.

[primal estuary]

it's just a character assassination

what even is the point of just eliminating a character's entire concept and then replacing it with "yeah I just forgot I was god"

how is this a good story in any way?

[spiral echo]

also yeah vega being the father is flimsy at best

[primal estuary]

and samuel being a maykr also sucks

[spiral echo]

i didnt mind that but it might be because it was already being hinted at in doom eternal

[slow sigil]

Excuse me but if you are literally the abrahamic god but you're only real "requirement" you don't hit is a full control over the laws of physics, then you're still fucking god

[azure oriole]

But the same can be said for VEGA and the Father

[spiral echo]

obviously was not a thing in doom 2016 and doom vfr though urdak didnt even exist in the lore yet

[azure oriole]

"Am... Am I the Father, Dr. Hayden?" from the Urdak level.

[spiral echo]

that was the reveal that wasnt really a hint to the reveal

[azure oriole]

Most/all of the lore in Eternal and its DLCs was conceptualized before any of it came out.

[spiral echo]

yeah but a lot of it was not fleshed out in 2016 yet

[primal estuary]

a very stupid line imo

they should've kept the father a different character and elaborate on him later

[spiral echo]

and i know for a fact samuel hayden couldnt have been written as the seraphim at the time because of dr peters referring to him as dr hayden

[azure oriole]

I do not see this as character assassination. In either case, this character is still a manmade AI that despite its intended perfection, feels immense human-like regret and doesn't seem to quite be capable of recognizing it.

I agree that none of this was planned out in 2016, yeah.

[primal estuary]

an ai learning to become human sounds a million times better than reconning it as a god for no reason

they robbed Vega of a huge character arc

[azure oriole]

Retconning it as a god does not change that. The Father is still an AI learning to become human.

[spiral echo]

this isnt related but olivia pierce is so lame im glad shes barely even acknowledged

[azure oriole]

I like her but she's basically less cool Betruger

[spiral echo]

she's betruger but not charismatic or threatening

[azure oriole]

Here's my thing. Retcons aren't inherently bad. They're only bad if they suck. Whether this sucks is subjective - you think it does, and that's fair, you expected something different and I get that.

[spiral echo]

i think she shows up in an easter egg in doom eternal somewhere but thats it i dont even remember if shes mentioned anywhere

[azure oriole]

Personally, I find that Eternal and its DLCs represent the vision these writers have more than 2016 did, and that vision in spite of some outlandish bullshit feels authentically like it belongs in Doom to me.

I think the twist with the Father made VEGA more interesting to me, and I feel even moreso about Samuel and the Seraphim.

[spiral echo]

i honestly preferred when vega was just an ai that generates several times the heat of the sun staying on

though he is more entertaining in doom eternal

[primal estuary]

you'll have to agree that if your plot depends on recons of dubious quality that are very hit or miss, then it's not a good plot

[spiral echo]

I think its an interesting plot but its not a very solid one

[azure oriole]

This in itself depends on the quality of the retcons, which is something we disagree on.

[spiral echo]

depending on your point of view it doesnt really matter much i mean it doesnt necessarily bother me

[azure oriole]

What they were retconning IMO just wasn't as interesting. I said that before but Doom 2016 isn't really that great of a story to me - Doom 3 but less well-written.

[slow sigil]

Vega being from makyr origin is cooler then being "just" an ai
Hayden being a makyr feels kinda more ehhh to me

[spiral echo]

hayden being a maykr almost makes sense

almost

[azure oriole]

I'll take Eternal feeling like a weirdly-written story that is at least authentic over 2016's story feeling sometimes weirdly... corporate, like they had to compromise parts of it for the sake of "selling" Doom to audiences again as a series.

[primal estuary]

anything they did would've sold anyways, that's not a good point

[spiral echo]

if not for lore contradictions in doom 2016 and vfr

[azure oriole]

Most fans seem to prefer the latter. That's fine. I just do not.

[spiral echo]

ive never seen anyone who actually prefers doom 2016's plot as a whole

[azure oriole]

Bethesda disagreed. They had to focus on marketing the multiplayer way too much, and this was after years of restructuring Doom 4.

Bethesda clearly did not have the most faith in Doom 2016 as a game that would be revered for its campaign.

[primal estuary]

doom eternal is what we're talking

[spiral echo]

ive seen people who argue the atmosphere and gameplay is better and i can see where theyre coming from in both cases but not the story

[azure oriole]

I get this, but I'm comparing it to 2016.

[azure oriole]

The typical opinion I see is "2016 told its story better and the lore wasn't stupid."

[primal estuary]

the context for 2016 and eternal's release are wildly different though

[azure oriole]

I agree with the former, and I guess the latter is true but only because 2016's lore tends to be boring instead.

[spiral echo]

well doom 2016 locked you in a room with samuel hayden for 10 minute lectures

[azure oriole]

I get this, my point is that I feel like 2016's story isn't very impressive and consists mainly of direct copies of Doom 3's plot points because the campaign wasn't allowed as much focus or resources as the developers wanted. Bethesda did not have faith in its campaign, so the campaign ended up feeling more like "Doom: The Story" in its most vanilla form rather than something with its own identity, which I feel Eternal has.

[spiral echo]

when i play doom 2016 i can still feel the rage 1-ness

[primal estuary]

eternal wasn't a complete gamble like 2016, that's why it feel like that

[azure oriole]

Yeah, I get that.

I'm not saying this isn't understandable. I don't blame them. I'm just saying it affects how I see the story nonetheless.

[spiral echo]

doom 2016 as a reboot and not a sequel reminds me a lot of the doom movie with the rock actually

[primal estuary]

the thing 2016 did really well was plant seeds for future stories, that being eternal and tag and whatever comes next

[spiral echo]

well the thing about that is eternal contradicts established points in 2016 and vfr so it doesnt really

[primal estuary]

exactly

there are ways to tie things together without outright reconning stuff from the past. it was super avoidable.

[spiral echo]

yeah

[azure oriole]

Well, I don't really care much about VFR, personally. Never played it, so I can't comment on it.

[primal estuary]

eternal feels like they worked with what they wanted 2016s story to be, not with what 2016 was

[azure oriole]

With 2016 the only real contradictions are with the backstories of Hayden and VEGA- which it does explain as being able to mesh with what 2016 says. Not particularly well-thought-out, but it does work in-universe.

[spiral echo]

ive never played it either i have a headset but it just looks like a neutered doom 2016 where you play as a voice acted character who is as good with guns as the slayer for some reason

i consider it a 2016 lore expansion more than anything

[primal estuary]

doom 2016: blue shift

[spiral echo]

it is pretty funny that dr peters dies at the end of vfr and the slayer uses his corpse to fool a retinal scanner later though

[spiral echo]

Now with motion sickness

[azure oriole]

But yeah TLDR it's fine, whatever, Doom's story is like a D&D campaign being made up on the fly and I think by that metric it's pretty good, and that fits Doom's origins.

[primal estuary]

except the part where this isn't 1993 anymore

[spiral echo]

Find it really weird that the dark lord is revealed as "you, in their world" and its really dramatic but then this is never acknowledged again

[azure oriole]

So?

[primal estuary]

so why would you cross your arms and accept bad writing because "yeah it's what it was like back then" ? do you not want a good story?

[spiral echo]

well its already. Written

and the franchise is over

[azure oriole]

I don't think this is a bad story to begin with.

[slow sigil]

"It's an old game" does not excuse shit story what???

[spiral echo]

yeah thats true

[primal estuary]

It's over yeah

FOR NOW...

[azure oriole]

I think this is an Acceptable Story. It's not as simple as if it was good or bad. Did it succeed in what it set out to do? Was what it set out to do good to begin with? What if it set out to do something, fucked that up, but succeeded by a different metric?

[spiral echo]

look out cause one demon had a one in 5 billion chance of surviving the doom slayer's proverbial thanos snap and started breeding asexually

[primal estuary]

the doom 3 universe in my pocket:

[spiral echo]

they would pull some shit like that actually

i imagine doom 3 is canon but is just happening somewhere else

i dont care enough to cross reference the lore or anything

i just think thats fun to think about

[azure oriole]

That is correct.

[primal estuary]

Ahhh but what if doom 3 is it's own canon

[spiral echo]

thats lamer

[primal estuary]

How so?

[spiral echo]

holistic universes are intriguing

[primal estuary]

How do we connect doom 3 to the new ones though?

[spiral echo]

its happening somewhere else

maybe a different uac mars base or something

[azure oriole]

Doom 3 is in a different universe set in Doom's canon.

[spiral echo]

damn i havent beaten doom 3 since i was like 10 i had the resurrection of evil bundle on the xbox

i always just start it and get really bored when a zombie kills me and then quit

maybe ill try bfg edition

[spiral echo]

this release was also my first exposure to doom 1 and 2 though since they had weird half emulated versions on the disc

i think these are the versions of the wads with e1m10 and map33

[azure oriole]

Let's compare to a different story, right? I've been on a Resident Evil kick recently. I love RE. I love its story. Between this and RE, RE is obviously far more competently written. Resident Evil 5 is a well-thought-out, progressive story about the horrors of race supremacy and an omnicidal terrorist motivated by genetic supremacy originating from Nazi-era eugenics. I expect this from RE, because RE set this precedent a long time ago.

[spiral echo]

Whats funny is that theyre both sewer levels one of the people working at nerve software made in the 90s

[azure oriole]

Doom set its precedent decades ago and that precedent was "the story means nothing." It's been fighting that precedent for a while now. I go into Doom expecting something different than I do when I go into Resident Evil.

[spiral echo]

so you get doom 1 and 2 but with secret sewer levels

[azure oriole]

So with Eternal, I went into Doom expecting a 6.5-7, and I got around what I'd consider a 7.5-8. So good job from Eternal.

[spiral echo]

Doom 64 was pretty good with story

for what little they had which was a manual page and text intermissions

probably cause id software didnt make it

doom on ps1 has similarly reworked text intermissions though except they were scored and voice acted

which is cool even if there were only two of them in that port

[fleet verge]

Bro I have to fight 2 marauders vs hell 😭😭

This is gonna be impossible for me

[river rock]

Immora?

[strong quartz]

Nah it’ll be fine

Don’t hit the purple guys though

[west comet]

What's the hardest master level?

[dull wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-LGvDUlv8
O M G
Finally!
If id isnt able to do it, a modder does it

[midnight sparrow]

This is cool but would probably be absolutely nauseating in later levels

Oh god and the DLC

[dull wind]

So perfect fodder for me 😄

I would love to have 2016 in VR too

But why this always has to come from a modder and never comes from the dev studio 😦

[vivid compass]

Tried ultra nightmare, died in 5 minutes

[midnight sparrow]

There is a 2016 VR game it’s called DOOM VFR

[dull wind]

I want to play the main game though

[midnight sparrow]

VR isn’t the most accessible medium. That and the fact fast paced FPS may not blend well with VR

[dull wind]

also the VFR made the most boring decision to glory kills. Telefrags. I mean why?

Serious Sam works wonderful in VR and so will do doom

Flat is so boring when youve seen VR and still so many games support only flat 😦

[midnight sparrow]

VR ≠ Good Game

[strange gale]

because it'd be really strange to control a virtual body to that extent only to see it do things on its own

[dull wind]

that wouldve been much much better

than boring telefrags

it does do it on its own when you press that button - so its totally in your control

[strange gale]

no, there'd be forced limb & camera movements you don't have control over, which is a big no-no in the vr space

[midnight sparrow]

Again VR is expensive and not highly accessible yet. Look at the top rated VR games and they all have been designed with VR in mind and aren’t just ports. DOOM Eternal would be terrible in VR.

[dull wind]

but if they wouldve been creative they couldve made you in Vr it possible to make your glory kill by using your own body. we have tracking, so make use of it^^

[midnight sparrow]

Half-Life Alyx, Boneworks, Bonelab, Into The Radius, Saints and Sinners etc work cause they where made specifically with VR in mind

[dull wind]

I dont see at all an issue about that. Its an animation and when its gone you continue playing normally

[midnight sparrow]

Have you played much VR? Cause glask is right

[dull wind]

I disagree on that though

you just wait that animation gone and continue normally. where is the problem . I dont see the problem

[slow sigil]

most people get quite motion sick?

[strange gale]

think about how fast that'd cause motion sickness

[dull wind]

none for me

[slow sigil]

also VR glorykills will just end up being just "i rip of their head" 99% of the time

[dull wind]

some people get motion sickness on flat screens, some none at all

[slow sigil]

otherwise like, what's the point of vr except your screen is now on your face

[dull wind]

really? XD VR isnt just a screen closer to your face lol

[slow sigil]

then why ask for things that just take away from vr lmfao

[dull wind]

the animation would still be 3D, even if automated, isnt that obvious 😄

[slow sigil]

same with how the game is regurarly

except your audiance is like, 35% max the population of peeps who even own a vr headset aswell

[dull wind]

DOOM Eternal would be terrible in VR.

We will see. Serious Sam wasnt made with VR in mind either and is a fast paced game too, and plays super good in VR

[slow sigil]

wait you just.... stand still in it?

[dull wind]

hm?

[slow sigil]

all the gameplay vids i see, they just.... stand still

if all you do is just aim somehwere else that's barely scratching the surface of fast paced game

[dull wind]

of course. How else? Then you wouldve to buy a treadmill if you want to use your legs to run

[slow sigil]

;-;

[strange gale]

i sure wonder how this'd feel to play in vr https://youtu.be/4kt8lOXs-2k?si=xCAYUylVYV9hpY3G

[slow sigil]

well simple! take away everything except the aiming and it will def be an identical game

[strange gale]

skip to 13:11

that'd be SO ASS

[dull wind]

I dont understand what you are about?
Turning and looking around is with your body, but you can also turn with an analog stick. Moving must be with analog stick if you dont have a treadmill for obvious reason 😄

[dull wind]

I would probably play eternal seated with keyboard and mouse.
The most important thing would be still there. Being in a virtual reality instead of looking on a pancake screen

[midnight sparrow]

Serious Sam and DOOM Eternal have very different combat loops

Serious Sam has much MUCH more basic gameplay

[strange gale]

debilitating neck pain from turning your head 180 degrees every 2 seconds

[dull wind]

like said, nobody steals your keyboard and mouse ^^
The most important thing is being IN the game, having it Full around you and in 3D and not just looking on a screen. biggest immersion changer

[slow sigil]

It basically was an arcade shoot em all where you stand still but the screen is 4 cm away from your eyes lol

[slow sigil]

I love the immersion of having to constantly turn around my neck to check everything in an actual fast paced game

[dull wind]

I dont understand what you expected else if you dont have a Treadmill? what you want to see? that he runs against a wall? of course he can only turn around with his body, but if moving as well you need obviously a treadmill, or you need to use your analog stick to move

[slow sigil]

Also.... for what is immersion really needed?

[slow sigil]

Sounds like garbage compared to actually being able to have a decent posture

[dull wind]

but that you can actually aim your gun like a gun instead of using a mouse is also much better

its just so much more fun

or throwing with your own arm a grenade

[slow sigil]

Sounds slower

[dull wind]

i dont care

[dull wind]

or turn your whole body, or use the analog stick to turn... or use a mouse...

[slow sigil]

Great! Then dont play a fast paced video game, maybe play a slower paced game meant to be immersed in?

[slow sigil]

At that point just plug in your vr headset and use it as a screen

[dull wind]

your arguments give no sense, you act like VR is just about the body controls, and the renderer is still flat

even using kb and mouse is 10 times better in VR, because you are in a VR and in 3D and not on a boring flat screen.

[slow sigil]

If it's just the screen then... plug in the screen?

[slow sigil]

Meh sounds annoying af by being "in" the game but not.... actually in the game

You're jumping arounds, meathook slinging across the arena whilst your balance motors in your head just stand still from you sitting

Plus with the screen i can easily just alt tab and menus aren't in my face

[dull wind]

thats in sitting easier for the brain to handle than standing. When you first experience VR it can be weird for the brain when you stand in reality, but move in the game with your analog stick ^^. probably the most reason why some people get motion sickness
a treadmill would solve that. then you can use your own legs to move, this understands the brain then 😄

[dull wind]

why is he forever in the air? That looks weird. I didnt play the game far yet

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/Tj7Jy-JwSrs?si=R2IP3cs8IANxp11N

[young mango]

Mid-night unfortunately

[azure oriole]

The stronger it'll become obviously

[viscid viper]

Hey guys! Who have tricks or tips for the ultra nightmare campaign of doom eternal?

[azure oriole]

I don't

[sturdy abyss]

Here, take that:

https://tenor.com/view/animal-cute-gif-6154128

Good luck mate

[vivid compass]

Does a gold color behind a box in the collection mean I have unlocked everything?

[viscid viper]

Thx bro

[azure oriole]

It means it's a master collection

[vivid compass]

is there a way to tell if I have unlocked evrything then?

[azure oriole]

For a specific set you just go into the collections tab and scroll to the set in question

[fickle bridge]

anyone knows the console command to unlock all sentinel crystal upgrades?

[ember void]

playing the game

[fickle bridge]

after tens of playthroughs you kinda get tired of needing to do exploration lmfao

[ember void]

umm true but no sentinel crystal feels that hard to obtain imo...

progression is part of the fun anyway

[fickle bridge]

obviously not it's just tedious work lol. also i'm playing the kaiser campaign which is pretty much an overglorified master levelled version of the campaign so it's just more convenient to play the game with all the mechanics unlocked

[ember void]

i heard the kaiser campaign was kinda bs in the beginning levels but COME ONNN cheating is lamee

[fickle bridge]

i wouldn't consider it cheating lol i just want my experience to be smoother

it's not like i'm submitting a speedrun or bragging about clearing the levels

[young mango]

If you can’t play it the intended way you’re going to have a much harder time in the later levels

[fickle bridge]

willing to take that risk lmfao

[azure oriole]

A more useful response:

give all
Gives everything the player can obtain.

This is the only console command that gives you shit, it seems. Can't find one specific to only Sentinel Crystals.

[fickle bridge]

cheers

[strange gale]

"exploration" as in grabbing things that are at worst a 20 second detour away and at best placed directly on your path

this is like calling the basic ass platforming in de "parkour"

[fickle bridge]

No need to play semantics lol my point was it's just tedious to do every level, especially after playing something like Ultrakill where you just unlock the stuff right away

[rustic rampart]

Random question. I've 100% completed eternal offline but finally got good internet and can play my Xbox online but aren't getting any of the achievements I should be. Is there a fix for this?

[rustic rampart]

I don't want to play through the game for the 1000th time to get all the achievements I definitely should have earned by now

[fallen heart]

its a good game

worth replaying

[rustic rampart]

Ive replayed it over ~30 times

I'm a God

A bored God

[jolly igloo]

Coming up with a set list for a hypothetical “Doom Symphony” akin to that Sonic Symphony tour that’s happening atm

I wish I had the talent or knowledge on how to make these a reality, but I dont😔

[fallen heart]

might aswell start speedrunning

[median crag]

The first chaos gate in ancient gods nightmare. what the fuck.

[strange gale]

?

[slow sigil]

Chaos gates, gives emerald runes on completion

[strange gale]

indeed.com. oil rig. job. now. ⛈️

[burnt moss]

Anyone play John Wick Hex?

[burnt moss]

I don’t think that’s even the worst one lol

Double marauder, I think buffed? I never did beat it.

[median crag]

I know, i just started

[burnt moss]

Well good luck slayer, it’s very difficult

[jolly igloo]

gain all 7 to become the super slayer

gives you access to permanent haste & the gauss cannon siege mode for the ballista

[rustic rampart]

What are you saying??

Oh are you telling me to work at an oil rig?

Well as it turns out I already have a very heavy labor job working at a grain mill

[gentle ridge]

What the hell am I supposed to do if I wanna listen to eternal's OST

[burnt moss]

Piracy

Youtube

[jolly igloo]

Soundcloud

[gentle ridge]

Not the quality I want

[gentle ridge]

U got any links or anything?

[velvet olive]

you got 2 options, go on youtube, or, search.

[vale pebble]

Some sites have the OST free to download

[acoustic lark]

Play the game

[west comet]

I wish doom eternal had a snapmap mode like doom 2016

[stray oasis]

[slow sigil]

It's not piracy if you can't buy ut

[gentle ridge]

Haven't found anything yet

[gentle ridge]

Yeah but...
I'm greedy
Looking for the finest quality I can find

FLAC even

[vale pebble]

Most have pretty good quality bro

[outer harness]

co-op anyone?

[river rock]

Im so mad bruh, i lost my un run at sentinel prime and now i cant get past cultist base

[covert basalt]

don't give up, you can do it

[random vault]

youtube like, exists yk

people upload entire ost’s all the time

[random vault]

pull the music straight from your game files

[burnt moss]

That’s not a backward slide; cultist base is the biggest bottleneck

Hey what do you guys think about the Doom Year Zero rumor?

[slow sigil]

it's not a rumor, it was an official document of bethesda's planning

problem is that it is from quite a while back

technically, i think corona also maybe screwed up the list?

[feral trout]

Hi Guys

[vivid compass]

Easter egg spoilers ||are the Doom & Doom 2 games you unlock the full games or just demos?||

Its a question btw^^

[slow sigil]

full game iirc

you can also go in the game files and just extract the OG game and put them in an gdoom runnner or how it was called again

[vivid compass]

Ok cool

[north agate]

That's cool I didn't know that.

[slow sigil]

Tbf its probs easier to download them online

[north agate]

Yeah true lol

[azure oriole]

I still don’t find a link to download them

I want to play something in college while I’m not in class

(Something that can run on the college’s computer and that I can easily erase track of it ever being downloaded)

[waxen field]

Full games sadly not full screen

[static goblet]

Any graphics I can reduce for optimisation without gravely affecting quality?

[young mango]

Pretty much all of them

The games really well optimized, but one I advise is reflections quality on ultra nightmare, makes it look a bit fancy and takes up 0 VRAM

[static goblet]

Cool thanks

[echo rampart]

does anyone else have a problem where in taras nabad if you drain the underground acid pool your entire session crashes/gets destroyed?

[chrome nest]

That has happened to me once but i have no idea how to fix it.

[echo rampart]

damn

i just decided to restart level and see if that fixed it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/979397421668921394.webp?size=48&name=prayge~2&quality=lossless

[chrome nest]

Goodluck

[echo rampart]

thanks

[light pasture]

In the save folder

[burnt moss]

By rumor I meant the rumor that it’s still going to happen soon. Yeah I think you’re right and COVID probably pushed it back, BUT the document is dated late into COVID so one might hope it was adjusted. My real question is whether it was scrapped or just pushed.

[slow sigil]

Well they're not gonna release shit without a teaser minimum with more then half a year time inbetween

[burnt moss]

I don’t want you to be right but you probably are

Since Doom I’ve played Hollowknight to death, got mostly done with Deadcells, and beat Celeste. I’d love a new doom game.

[cunning gulch]

I just hope for a teaser this year

[random vault]

well, i mean, of they dont want the game to flop they have to

if you drop a game with 0 advertising its not gunna exactly perform well

[slow sigil]

Can recomend metal hellsinger

Not that eternal like but it's a fairly fun fps

[river rock]

Hollow knight peak fr

Watcher knights on radiant broke me though

[slow sigil]

I somehow managed to do radiance in like 2 tries

Also blasphemous which got a new part recently

[light pasture]

Yk what i wish

Realistic damage to the caco and meatball if u hit that mf w a ballista or heavy cannon snipe it'd either kill it if u hit it in the eye or leave a nice hole in its face

[slow sigil]

Ballista can 2 tap it which seems like a great hp vallue

[sly dew]

hi all, i installed doom eternal on my xbox via gamepass, but can't start the campaign because i don't have the license? has anyone else had this issue? thanks!

[chrome nest]

You might need to make a Bethesda acount, if not i dont know

[strange gale]

nuh uh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744018834813485076/913127051295326228/mt.mp4

[strange gale]

this does more dps than micromissile bodyshots (1440 vs 1383), absolutely not the weakest mod

[fresh tinsel]

how can you touch him like that ? didn't he have his shield ?

[strange gale]

possessed marauders don't like to block against mobile turret

[jolly igloo]

I didn’t mean in terms of damage ;-;

Is very good in terms of damage ;-;

[slow sigil]

But that's literally the only thing it does

[jolly igloo]

Yea that’s my main issue

The other rapid damage dealing weapons are either faster or come with additional benefits

However, I commend you for using it since it is a pretty cool concept

[sly dew]

already have an account (you can't open the game without one on xbox) and opened a ticket on their support site. we'll see 🙂

[strange gale]

kagurabachi solos the doom verse

[static vortex]

it has been 0 days since someone took a hilariously funny quote from DOOM: Eternal

[jolly igloo]

Doom Salvation’s soundtrack p good :)

[chrome nest]

ok, well best of luck mate

[subtle loom]

i bought doom eternal on the switch 💀

im new to doom

WHY IS THIS SERVER DEAD

[vale pebble]

Because it is

[subtle loom]

real

[zinc osprey]

Guys, any tips for world spear master level on ultra-nightmare? I did all the other MLs on UN but this one feels incredibly exhausting and difficult. It's so long as well, feels like it never ends.

[vale pebble]

I didn't do UN master levels 💀

[vale pebble]

General is pretty active throughout the day

[wanton matrix]

Is it possible to actually get really good on console eternal?

I wanna try to get actually good💀

[vale pebble]

Yeah, you can be the best player on any platform

[west comet]

What's the best weopen mod?

[slow sigil]

probs shield

[outer harness]

fucking hate gargoyles

[river rock]

Same

Useless fucking enemy and the melee is for some reason so deadly

[outer harness]

ong the melee is fuckimg bull 150 damage at one point

[exotic swan]

Wait this is the wrong fandom

I'm from the little nightmares fandom 😭

It doesn't matter guess I'm here now

[vale pebble]

I mean u still welcomed here

[exotic swan]

I'm playing doom eternal rn

[flint flame]

That’s only if you stood still while it was attacking

[young mango]

#doom-eternal message

[zinc osprey]

thank you a lot fr , some really good advice, i am trying to play the game without skipping arenas and without using bfgs to try to git gud but for this one i think its gonna be necessary lol

the purple goo, the screecher tyrant baron little arena and the escalation place are really annoying as well as the last part after you think the level is over lmao but no it gets even more insane

[outer harness]

i guess just fucking hate them

[rustic rampart]

Always be looking to recharge your hammer. It's your best friend

Bloodpunch demons with weak points for easy recharges

[rustic rampart]

With the right custom controls yeah

[azure oriole]

It’s hard but it’s possible, I’m getting real good on it (I think)

[frosty bear]

are there any "asset remakes" that well, remake assets from the classic games

[burnt moss]

I’ll see if it’s on Gamepass. I’m thinking of buying John Wick Hex. Not a FPS but I just watched the movies.

[slow sigil]

dont know it

[burnt moss]

#screenshots message

[opal galleon]

Oh dude I haven't seen Volden in so long

That's cool

[solid sky]

Can anyone connect to Bethesda?

[burnt moss]

Hi

[burnt moss]

Mick can’t

[burnt moss]

OH it’s you hi

[azure oriole]

I think I'm the only one looking for a game in the battlemode on nintendo switch

I even went to the server that they mention in the #battlemode channel, and there is no one

[umbral quartz]

I am fighting The Dark Lord and am wondering how I get him to flash more often? I have been fighting him for about 7 hours now and he has only flashed green 5 times, each time he just regenerated using his attacks way too quickly.

[burnt moss]

It’s all about distance management and patience. If you stay far away he shoots and if you get too close he shield pounds

[umbral quartz]

What is the best distance? In meters.

[burnt moss]

Wtf are meters

[umbral quartz]

A way to measure distance???

[burnt moss]

Jk not sure, just play with it

[random vault]

american mf

[umbral quartz]

fr ong

[burnt moss]

I haven’t played for close to a year

[umbral quartz]

oof

[burnt moss]

Yes to the first, no to the second

I’m not from that part of America

[umbral quartz]

Bruh I literally just unpaused and walked back and fourth for like 2 seconds and he flashed green 💀

[burnt moss]

Like I said, just play with it. The worst thing to do is keep trying the same thing expecting different results

[random vault]

thats not a part

[umbral quartz]

ok bruh wtf I literally just got him to 0 hp, glory killed him to go to the next stage, and he didn

't change

why tf did my text split 💀

[flint flame]

Bro did the Muhammad Ali shuffle on em

[umbral quartz]

fr ong

Gosh diggery darn it I missed the first flash of the 3rd stage

[static goblet]

Any graphics I can reduce for optimisation without gravely affecting quality?

[static goblet]

Had someone say I could decrease most settings and put reflections on ultra nightmare

So it doesn’t affect fps at all?

Well barely

Cool, so what graphics should I prioritise to fit within the vram cap

Gtx 970

[flint flame]

Yeah it doesn’t. But it still works

I used to run it on medium-low on a rx 570

[static goblet]

Sorry whats DE?

Oh lmao

My monitor is 60hz and it seems to stay at 60fps with high settings and some ultra

I am getting a 3060ti soon hopefully thats good for doom

Yeah was planning on getting a new monitor

Yeah it’s on by default, no clue what it does lol

Thank you

fps drops by about 5 when its off

aight thanks

around that yeah

yeah haha i start getting annoyed anywhere below 40 fps

did bro get banned lol

the guy whos messages deleted

💀

fair enough

he is tho tbf

true

[azure oriole]

Who are you talking to

[static goblet]

Bro did this guy get banned as well 💀

[silent osprey]

ik what meters are and im american

[vivid compass]

Meters are an inferior form of measurement

[raw folio]

I just finished the game it was so cool

[cunning gulch]

You just use the american system because it has feet

[raw folio]

What do you think about the end boss?

[random vault]

goofy take

[cunning gulch]

Which of the 3? Samur, The Icon of Sus or Davoth?

[vivid compass]

🇺🇸Cope🇺🇸

[raw folio]

Everybody I practice my English

[random vault]

im american, our measurements are dumb

[vivid compass]

I rather die than use metric

[random vault]

i will only defend Fahrenheit

because humans arent water, we dont need to measure our feelings of heat based off water

[raw folio]

Icon of sin

[young mango]

feet?!

[young mango]

@random vault

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[vivid compass]

I LOVE THE IMPERIAL SYSTEM!!!!

[flint snow]

I finally reinstalled eternal

[versed dawn]

same

[jolly igloo]

is good :)

considerable improvement over the final boss of doom 2

[raw folio]

Probably, I didn't play at doom 2..

@flint snow pretty nice profiles pictures, from what animate?

[flint snow]

Reincarnated as a slime

[raw folio]

Noice

[cunning gulch]

Npesta

[frozen cove]

is there no store to purchase skins, etc…?

[river rock]

There are

[burnt moss]

You can purchase “packs” on your console’s store.

[river rock]

U gotta buy it like the dlcs tho

[frozen cove]

figures, thanks

[burnt moss]

You can also earn tons of skins

Most can be earned

[frozen cove]

aight, I just started playing, it’s a really well built game, mechanics are smooth and intuitive, minor changes needed, overall good on Bethesda

[vast comet]

Doom is boring bruh

[cunning gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/geometry-dash-acheron-text-bubble-text-bubble-meme-twitter-reaction-gif-7862370536887409955

[vast comet]

Agreeable

[strange gale]

ragebait

https://tenor.com/view/shun-akiyama-yakuza-tired-gif-23671090

[wise pebble]

Agreed we need more spirit buffed marauders

[strange gale]

wow i love mobile turret

[frozen cove]

It’s a great game, hope it won an award

2019 Best PC / Action Game & 2020 GotY

[flint flame]

This guy never heard of last of us 2

[exotic swan]

I hate the archvile, I think we all do tbh

[fresh tinsel]

i do so much that i always use my crucible all the time

[wary badger]

is it possible for a person to be so used to low fps it calibrates their brain to think there playing higher fps ?

[wary badger]

ice bomb + lock on

[fresh tinsel]

i didn't take the lock on upgrade on the launcher

is it really worth it ?

[wary badger]

well quickly switch to it

[fresh tinsel]

dunno good question man

[wary badger]

I main remote burst but I still use lock on if theres a archiville

[fresh tinsel]

but to have it i need to find a drone, i didn't take it at all

[fresh tinsel]

okay thx for advices

on which difficulty you play ?

[wary badger]

nightmare

[fresh tinsel]

ooooooh impressive

[wary badger]

I used to play on hurt me plenty but moved up to ultra violence and to nightmare

[fresh tinsel]

yeah normal progression

[wary badger]

I did practice takes before attempting nightmare

[fresh tinsel]

i'mma practice ulra violence i guess

i got the game last week so i'm only beginning

[wary badger]

also since doom year zero might be real how about when you finish the game on nightmare you try out the mods

im trying out reshade

since I like my game dark and glowly

[fresh tinsel]

i should maybe do the same, is it better ?

[wary badger]

Well the game gets a little boring.. but after that its normal boring so yeah

[fresh tinsel]

before being boring i wanna beat ancient gods 1 and 2 and the campain in ultra nightmare mode

and maybe try pvp, i didn't yet, i wanna finish the main story to get use to new mechanics since doom 2016

[wary badger]

Dont try doom eternal multiplayer

trust me, its not worth it

[fresh tinsel]

it's not worth it ? oh sad

[wary badger]

you can barely find a server

[fresh tinsel]

and horde mode ?

[wary badger]

worth it🙏

[fresh tinsel]

that's sad, i was kinda hyped about online

[fresh tinsel]

didn't try yet, what kind of mode is it ?

[wary badger]

always try it in nightmare for the cool rewards

[wary badger]

basically you start with the normal shotgun then go up the weapon wheel within the levels

[fresh tinsel]

okay, i'll always try in nightmare

[wary badger]

until the holt

[fresh tinsel]

is it like zombie cod mode but with weapons upgrade ?

[wary badger]

and if you die after the starting map you basically need to restart

[fresh tinsel]

oh okay i got it, seems cool !

i'll try tonight i guess

[wary badger]

well the weapons you get are fully upgraded but the weapons for you are randomized

the only scripted weapon (I think is the ssg) in the reclaimed earth level

[fresh tinsel]

okay cool, you hyped me

thanks mate

[wary badger]

also collect all of the coins for a cool title

like gold to slayer

[fresh tinsel]

seems interessting

[wary badger]

basically you get poins that get larger and larger with buffs but with difficult demons if you choose to do the challgene by killling the challenge demons but you can skip it by not killing the challenge demons

[fresh tinsel]

okay i'mma discover it tonight and i'll tell you ! thanks mate

[wary badger]

happy for me to raise a eventual pro player🙏

[fresh tinsel]

maybe maybe who knows ? (far from being one 🤣)

[wary badger]

a single video of doom eternal gameplay made me a pro player

and a single tip about it also.

[fresh tinsel]

give them to me and i'll maybe become pro ?

[wary badger]

well you should get used to the weapons and dont over use them. always be unique with weapons

like doing quickswitching

for all of us doomers we used the first quick switch method, ssg ballista then problem to solution with future quick switches

[fresh tinsel]

okay i'mma train !

[wary badger]

goodbye my friend I must do something

[fresh tinsel]

see ya my friend

[river rock]

Finally made it back to sentinel prime on un

I need some concrete tips so i dont throw myself into a load of shit again

[slow sigil]

try it out in nm

[jaunty vapor]

BFG refills after EACH phase is killed, so you can blow all BFG shots.

Best practice is usually to shoot above/away from the gladiator so he doesn't block/reflect it (splash damage hits him from behind), and use it when he summons adds so you don't actually have to deal with them

He summons 2 waves each phase I believe, when he's taken "enough damage". Im probably a bit off in that but I know for certain in phase 2, hell summon a wave at like 2/3 health, then again at 1/3 health.

[river rock]

Something for the jump rope attack?

Bruh

I just lost the run to the fucking jump rope at 1/5th health

I think im gonna go for the tag 1 un

Oh wait the blood swamps

And the holt

[hoary bough]

I know you’ve lost the run so this is late, but for future if you try again, I usually just dodge to the best of my abilities, usually not dashing as you might over-dash, and use lock-on burst to deal very good damage. It’s probably the only time in the fight you can effectively use lock-ons so use as many as needed 👍

I guess you could also use rockets with remote detonation in both phases but I tend not to just to have more for lock-on

[river rock]

I fucked up once the gargoyles started spawning, i lost like 2/3 of all my hp because i went after them when they started chipping away my health, and then the fucking jump rope border thing killed me

[azure oriole]

🇪

[low ruin]

is there someone who can help me learn quick swiching in doom eternal

[azure oriole]

Console?

[acoustic lark]

Nobody can help you train your own muscle memory tho

[low ruin]

nah, pc

[low ruin]

ik but im tired of dying in ultranightmare

idk how to learn it

[acoustic lark]

Play more nightmare then until you feel ready

[low ruin]

you own that skill>

?

[acoustic lark]

Quick Swapping is not the "key to heaven" mate

[low ruin]

ik, but i want to know hmuch time it took to learn it, if its idk, 500 hours i will give up

[river rock]

Switch your closest controls to the most important weapons ig?
Like ssg, balista, rocket launcher and heavy cannon

[low ruin]

i tryed but it don't worked

[azure oriole]

It can work eventually, you just need to find out your best keybind combination. I would use 1 for ss, 3 for ballista, and so on.

If you don’t feel good yet, you can always try the campaign on lower difficulty. Or Horde Mode even

Horde mode has made me a better campaign player

[river rock]

Master levels did that for me, i still suck ass though

[azure oriole]

Git gud

[flint flame]

Dawg. You have to get good at the game. You have to practice. Of course you’re not good at something the first time you try it, you have to put in time and effort to improve. That’s something you should’ve learned in life. If you don’t want to put in the time and effort to learn the game, then don’t bother ultra nightmare lol.

[strange gale]

or alternatively...

[opaque oak]

What is the best weapon mod?

[young mango]

Precision bolt

[opaque oak]

indeed

but the most fun one

[young mango]

Close seconds are lock on and dblade

[opaque oak]

are sticky bombs ;D

[young mango]

Love sticky bomb combos actually

[opaque oak]

i mean i really like the remote detonation

[young mango]

Sometimes when I’m rusty and bored I’ll just spam punchswap sticky bombs all the time

And it just… works somebow

[opaque oak]

for the soft faulter for faultering setup

cool

[young mango]

Not a fan of soft falter mechanics, considering you get a hard falter midway through an enemies health anyways

[opaque oak]

ye but like

remote det instantky grenade

microvawe second grenade

ice bomc grenade

and you should be able to put some high damage attacks somewhere

[young mango]

If remote det was a hard falter it would be so cool to use, imagine spamming a tyrant with its AOE while it can do absolutely nothing

[opaque oak]

ye lol but you can just microwave him instead

i think short microwave is a hard falter but idk im crazy rusty

[young mango]

Yea microwave beam is hard falter

It can even falter possessed enemies as a silly oversight

[opaque oak]

ye ik

microwave instant s+

[young mango]

Also sylars funny little trick of microwave beam FSE SLOBS means you can stunlock a possessed enemy if you’re feeling stylish

[strange gale]

optimal too because id loves the lock on burst

[young mango]

Too bad there’s no places where it’s actually the MOST optimal strat

Like yes it’s convenient as hell but I’d love to see it in a speedrun

In terms of keeping you safe it’s good but again nothing beats just spamming things in terms of sheer speed

[river rock]

Not shield?

[river rock]

Arbalest for me

[opaque oak]

arbalest cool, i prefer dblade tho

[river rock]

Fair

[young mango]

Precision bolt deals 400 damage and is one of the easiest way to activate FSE, it’s very good early game dps

[river rock]

Damn, i expected shield or lock on

Meathook too ig

[opaque oak]

i mean meathook good for some easy armor and traversal

[strange gale]

even with energy shield vacation it's pretty gimmicky

[river rock]

Oh yeah, i found that out when i lost my un run to gladiator, it doesnt work on the fucking jump rope i guess

[low ruin]

can someone tell me, in ultranightmare we have something named sentinel armor and it gives us a sheld and thats all or there is some other bonus>

[slow sigil]

nope that's it
they are outside of UN too but in UN they replace a lot of extra lives

[static goblet]

When does bfg division play in DE?

[river rock]

When you visit the demon's prison after exultia

[midnight sparrow]

The Ripatorium

[static goblet]

Ripatorium?

[river rock]

Yeah

[static goblet]

Yeah thanks guys

[cyan frigate]

seeing this cracked me up

[azure oriole]

It’s not on UN

UN is only “one” live. For it to pop up you need to die 3 times on a boss fight (don’t do that lmao)

I think you really need to practice a lot of the campaign before hoping in UN

Fortunately: the campaign isn’t that long. Plus you can practice in other places outside of it

Myself: I’m on my second Nightmare run, I try to die as least as possible

After that (and finishing Horde Mode): I’ll hop in UN

[foggy bronze]

If you did not know where there is extra life's the moment you get in un the extra life gets turned into sentinel armor

It's does not give you resistance but it maxes out ur armor

[azure oriole]

Wait, fr?

I thought there was extra lives available

[foggy bronze]

No

[azure oriole]

I have not touched UN like…ever

[foggy bronze]

Ye search up UN sentinel armor

All extra life's are tuner into sentinel armor

[azure oriole]

Damn…guess I really need to train myself

[slow sigil]

Would kinda defeat the point wouldnt it

[static goblet]

can i save the anti aliasing console command so i dont have to use it everytime i play

[tidal coyote]

How do I get cheat 4 and 14?

I got every cheat from every mission but am still missing those 2 somehow

[chrome lily]

This game needs tanerite bullets

[random vault]

whats that

[wary badger]

Currently doing un 100%

[wary badger]

Died

[azure oriole]

listen to novik’s speech snd get shootin again

If you can get past doom hunter base half the challenge is already done, it becomes a test of will

It's not that deep

Ngl

[snow wigeon]

Just Rip and Tear, until it is done.

No matter how many attempts you have to take, you always need to Rip and Tear, until it is all over.

[burnt moss]

UNnecessary

[strange gale]

how many times have you said that now

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-fast-lick-cute-cat-cats-gif-27624519

call human recources on the cat

[random vault]

an UNnecessary amount of times

[burnt moss]

Precisely

You guys like bench press

[river rock]

Doom hunter base is like the second easiest level after sgn

Imo

[static vortex]

if you’ve collected all the cheats in the missions then the two you’re probably missing are
All Runes - unlock the 2016 praetor suit in the fortress, there’s a hole in the wall that you drop down onto a platform
Quakecon - have every praetor suit upgrade

[azure oriole]

yes

[river rock]

Isnt quakecon in the doom fortress in the roof of the room before the unmaykr room?

[static vortex]

i don't think that collectible is a cheat at all

[burnt moss]

I just started lifting again today. 225lbsx5 reps bench

[azure oriole]

idk freedom units

[burnt moss]

I was born this way ok

OH one sec

[azure oriole]

102 kg

nice

[burnt moss]

That’s still a bit less than I weigh though lol

[steep barn]

im gonna beat the icon of sin on hurt me plenty mode today

[burnt moss]

First time?

[azure oriole]

well if youre just started lifting thats good

[burnt moss]

More of a return

[azure oriole]

good

i hope one day you can beat UN or UV

[burnt moss]

UT?

Ultra Tired?

[azure oriole]

i ment uv for ultrs violence

i just woke up

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-eepy-gif-10295980600460052163

[burnt moss]

Yeah UV is a sweet spot for me. NM is too unforgiving sometimes.

I should say was

Haven’t played much this year

[azure oriole]

i beat one hore mode lvl on UV and thought i was good enough to do a nightmare run

big mistake

[burnt moss]

Nah just beat the game UV and then try NM

[azure oriole]

i have to go

[burnt moss]

I should go eep

[azure oriole]

back

[azure oriole]

I’ve nearly finished horde mode on UV, I’m using it as a warm up. Hopefully I can get to kill those final marauders by next week

After that I’ll follow up with my trying to do deathless Nightmare run

(Trying, because I’ve already died at slayers gate, so maybe I’ll just make an any% run)

Tho I’ve felt Horde Mode has improved my reaction time

[river rock]

2 possesed barpns spawn after the marauders im pretty sure

[azure oriole]

Hi could someone pls help me do the battle mode trophys?

[azure oriole]

yes when first marauder is dead double possesed baron then the next marauder just makes a bunch of heavies, im pretty sure at a certain point theres 3 arch viles aswell

[azure oriole]

are you on pc, playstation, or xbox

?

Playstation

You?

[limpid orchid]

Wassup

[azure oriole]

eck bock 😔

[limpid orchid]

What are yall doing?

[limpid orchid]

Xobx

[azure oriole]

yes

[limpid orchid]

Yo another Orthodox

Sup brotha?

[azure oriole]

im not orthodox, im eastern catholic

im doing great, you?

[limpid orchid]

I thought you where ortodox from your pfp

[azure oriole]

yeah its a cross

[limpid orchid]

Im good btw im just really annoyed rn

[azure oriole]

why?

[limpid orchid]

Im at school

But I'll be leaving soon

[azure oriole]

well be happy about it

[limpid orchid]

Yeah i am

[azure oriole]

im confused now

you're happy and annoyed?

[river rock]

Yup, i shit myself when i saw 3 archviles the first time i got to that point in horde mode

[azure oriole]

the raged double marauer scare me more tbh

[river rock]

Marauders take the L quickly if you shoot them with arbalest to falter

[strange gale]

2020 ass tech

[river rock]

I aint doing "full auto one cycle punchswap ballista" shit made by some fat fuck who doesnt go outside

[strange gale]

you just made that up, nobody does that

one cycling results in less sweat anyway since you spend way less time fighting each mara

[azure oriole]

console😔

have to use weapon wheel

[blissful moth]

Hi. Is possible change the dead zone on DOOM eternal for PS4/PS5/XB1/XBSX|S?

[cosmic hamlet]

Isnt marauder onecycle just.. icebomb + lock on

[strange gale]

that's been patched out man

[jolly igloo]

full auto may not be the best weapon mod, but its one of the coolest looking imo

[azure oriole]

Hello

Can someone help me do 8 guns kill trophy, 200 kill trophy and 50k helth trophy

On ps4

[river rock]

You cant ice bomb that mf

[river rock]

Valid

[cosmic hamlet]

Shooting an ice bomb over their head will cause them to shield upwards, allowing you to 2-rocket lock on burst

[river rock]

Love how the crosshair spins