doom-eternal

[outer mulch]

Like doom 64 at least

[stuck apex]

epic games.

[outer mulch]

Which you just said it was a mistake not getting for free, and it's pretty damn close to free rn

[stuck apex]

2 free games every week

[outer mulch]

Right

Idk about Argentina currency, but US dollars, two dollars is like pocket change

[stuck apex]

its like 139 dollars to just buy terraria

even a ps5 costs less than that

that is how bad the economy is

its like 85 dollars for doom 1993

[grave moat]

I got 2016 doom and eternal for only 30$

They were on sale tho

[stuck apex]

doom eternal is 1999 fucking dollars in steam

now you all know how fucked up is argentina we get the best footballers but the worst economy

does venezuela get 500% more price on games

why are we talking about economy shit in doom´s discord server

as i was saying

room is a good doom fan game

which official game has pog cacodemon

none exactly

but fredoom is a pretty good fan game too

my last message before i go do something else is: fallout and doom are the best classical games ever

[dark charm]

speaking of "classic" i just beat it on super gore nest mastery level on classic mode

[stuck apex]

epik gamer

[west coyote]

Really

Cool

[tight phoenix]

When do I get missions to get settle batteries

[languid flint]

Roman

[rapid remnant]

E

[trail wharf]

Which one does more damage, ballista or heavy cannon snipe

[azure forum]

Ballista. If you check the pin messages you can find all weapon damage values 👍

[quasi glen]

How do I buy the dlc on PlayStation

[glossy warren]

ballista all the way brotha

[trail wharf]

I saw that dash did 50 damage

Did anybody kill a heavy demon with it

[glossy warren]

I quite like them

they provide optional lore for those wishing to listen

[slow sigil]

Mechanised zombies?

Sticky to the head or pb bolt to the chest/head

[dusk copper]

how do i do i fast lock on

for the rocket

[solid schooner]

Hey I just finished my first doom eternal game, I was wondering if there was a part 2 after I beat Olivia

I can’t seem to find one, is there one in production?

[glossy warren]

did you play 2016? olivia isn't in eternal

[solid schooner]

yes 2016 sorry

[dusk copper]

do you know how

[solid schooner]

😅

[sudden pecan]

I agree

[glossy warren]

yes, we all know that 2016 and eternal are in chronological order

[sudden pecan]

Just snipe them once with the canon

[solid schooner]

Is there a second game? Or not

[sudden pecan]

they go in glory kill state

[solid schooner]

I just beat that??? Doom eternal? With Vega and everyone else?

Is there another part to the game like an add on or just something else, they left me with a cliffhanger

Yeah? She turned into a giant brain thing, I haven’t had time to read the name yet

[sudden pecan]

yeah doom eternal is the sequel to the game you just beat

[solid schooner]

Oh, so that’s it? Like no other game then?

[sudden pecan]

no

You play doom eternal after

[glossy warren]

you played 2016, now you can play eternal

[solid schooner]

Still confused but I think I have the gist of it

[glossy warren]

eternal is the chronological sequel to 2016

[sudden pecan]

it’s not that hard, you play DOOM, then you play doom eternal

sequels

[solid schooner]

oh

[strange gale]

https://youtu.be/H_k7ZgLTXXw

[solid schooner]

That makes more sense 🤔

[north glen]

How bad at doom are you if you have to activate sentinel armour twice on the last two stages of the seraphim fight

[glossy warren]

what difficulty are you on

[north glen]

Hurt me plenty....

[solid schooner]

Well considering it was my first time playing I chose too young to die

[glossy warren]

and I don't blame you for it, the spirit buffed dread knight is pure hell

[solid schooner]

Ok THANK YOU this is more helpful, sorry

[north glen]

My like 4th run, I killed the knight first which was easy but pain elements a bloody pain. Just wont die. And then there's the blood makyr to deal with and by the time all of thats tru, ur layering the spirit and get killed by the respawned knight

[solid schooner]

I see where I went wrong, there was a flyer for doom eternal in the case, got confused, the disc was doom 2016

[glossy warren]

lol

[midnight sparrow]

Doubt we'll see a return to Doom 3. Maybe a Doom game that still keeps the face paced action yet has some more horror elements could be cool

[slow sigil]

I dont think fast paced would really work with horror. Maybe some grim things like enemy design and environments but not horror-scary, just unsettling

[sudden pecan]

The doom movie

[midnight sparrow]

yeah something like that. Man I hope the next game has new demons and not just variants

[sudden pecan]

💀💀💀

[midnight sparrow]

Universals tried twice and failed twice. Lets all just accept the fact Doom shouldn't be adapted into a movie

[slow sigil]

Like eternal literally did? Added new demons?

[sudden pecan]

Wouldn’t the next game have the demons from doom 64?

Cuz doom and doom eternal are literally just doom 1 and 2

just better

[slow sigil]

Game has icon of sin = literally the same game

Apparently

[midnight sparrow]

There's only one new demon from Doom 64 though. And there would be no point to bring back the Mother Demon

[sudden pecan]

yeah 2016 had cybedemon and spider mastermind, literally doom 1

[solid schooner]

No, this was the first year with a new ps4 so I bought a slayers collection on sale and got the doom 2016 disc from it, inside there’s a “Doom eternal” page in there, I’ll show you in dms because I don’t have photo privileges

[sudden pecan]

Mother demons cool though

[midnight sparrow]

According to rumors a sequel to Doom Annihilation is in the works. And if that does actually come out it'll definitely kill any chance of adapting Doom outside of a video game

[midnight sparrow]

There are new demons in DOOM 2016 and Eternal though

[sudden pecan]

Yes

but it’s got the exact same bosses pretty much

[slow sigil]

Exact same boss = exact same game

[sudden pecan]

Exactly

[slow sigil]

Gameplay mechanics? Dont matter
Story? Dont care
Final boss? Only thing that matters

[sudden pecan]

yeah

But it’s the same boss

With the same name

[midnight sparrow]

The Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind fights in 2016 are NOTHING like the ones from Classic Doom

[sudden pecan]

yeah

[slow sigil]

The eternal icon is technically a bit different then the new tyrant

[sudden pecan]

what I mean is they are the same boss, and the next game should have mother demon in it

[slow sigil]

The spider mastermind is a more low-ranking general in doom1 whilst being the literal dark lord of the cyrrent age in 2016

[slow sigil]

"Should"
Specutalive

[sudden pecan]

yes

[slow sigil]

If there are heavies yeahp

[sudden pecan]

yes “should”

[slow sigil]

Yeah but that's extremely tedious and boring

[midnight sparrow]

Naw. The Mother Demon has no lore reason for it to come back. It and it's sister where both killed by Doomguy.

[slow sigil]

Just play the game with a slight focus on challenges

[sudden pecan]

Well the icon of sin was killed by doom guy and the spider mastermind and cyberdemon, they came back though

[dull herald]

rebel

[sudden pecan]

I agree that there’s no lore reason

But it’d be cool idrc about lore

[slow sigil]

Cyberdempon didnt come back though?
Different spider mastermind, theres not just 1
Icon did get revived, but with a new soul

[outer mulch]

@rapid remnant Devil May Cry V pfp

[sudden pecan]

they came back, in the game

[midnight sparrow]

Cyberdemon: Rebuilt by the UAC.
Spider Mastermind: Not the same one from Classic Doom soooo
Icon: Much higher ranked demon then the Mother Demon and had a lore reason to come back

Also the Mother Demons corpse is on a radiated Phobos base in the old Doom universe

[sudden pecan]

I don’t think you get what I’m saying

[midnight sparrow]

please tell me

[sudden pecan]

They came back, the lore doesn’t matter

they are in doom 2016 and eternal

idk how to explain it otherwise they’re in the game

[slow sigil]

Spider mastermind didnt "come back" though?

[midnight sparrow]

But it does though. How they came back is explained in the lore.

[sudden pecan]

Spider master mine is in doom 2016 did you play the game?

[slow sigil]

That's like saying the imp you killed i n the first level "came back"

[slow sigil]

Yes, but that was not the one in og doom

[sudden pecan]

ok

[sudden pecan]

I know

[slow sigil]

????

[sudden pecan]

But it’s in doom 2016

[slow sigil]

Yes

[sudden pecan]

that’s what I’m trying to say

[slow sigil]

Also in eternal technically

[sudden pecan]

yes I know

it’s betrayers son and stuff idk but its in the game

[slow sigil]

Tbf eternal could have a "mother demon" ig, or a "champion of hell". But not really those

Reviving them again like icon would be megacheap, and the story fundamentally is different with the killing of davoth

[sudden pecan]

wouldn’t a sequel to doom 3 be a better game?

[midnight sparrow]

ehhhh

[slow sigil]

A sequal to eternal would suffice tyvm

No need to go back to.... 2004

[sudden pecan]

how would they make a sequel to eternal though the slayer killed davoth isn’t he the highest power?

[midnight sparrow]

no? Doom 3 is great and all but the story was wrapped up nicely. There's nothing to lead on from

[sudden pecan]

and the demons are gone

[slow sigil]

Tag2 lore was rushed to no there is a megagod*

[midnight sparrow]

Hell was merely sealed not destroyed also there are beings higher then Davoth. Plus Samur is still on the loose

[slow sigil]

No they just can't leave hell
Which will be retconned the moment the trailer for the next doom hits mark my words

[sudden pecan]

Yeah that’s what I meant the demons are gone off earth

I really need to rephrase what I’m saying

[slow sigil]

Yeah they wrote themselves in a corner
I don't see how bringing in doom3 will help though as it is the same multiverse

[outer mulch]

I really don't think we need any sequels to any games

[sudden pecan]

Same but everyone wants one

[outer mulch]

If we get another doom, I want a fresh take like maybe it's own story

[sudden pecan]

Uac soldier perspective? Better than vr though

[slow sigil]

Then why not kinda.... have a new game? Why must it be doom then?
Oh wait, branding

Clash origin story

[dusk copper]

is there an actual sandbox mod

[outer mulch]

No, like the story could be expanded upon

[sudden pecan]

yeah

[outer mulch]

Like having a story about UAC employees trying to survive

[glossy warren]

I want to play as the intern

[slow sigil]

i want a clash protagonist with just new lore to start fresh

[sudden pecan]

that would be so fun

[outer mulch]

Or like a story about the resistance against demons on earth during the bridge between 2016 and Eternal

Like what doom 4 was gonna be, but more doom styled

[slow sigil]

I'd rather use ID's talent to make more kinda high-skill shooters like eternal rather then survival horror games though

[sudden pecan]

I don’t really mind

[outer mulch]

Just play eternal then 👽

[sudden pecan]

I like the idea of uac employees

[slow sigil]

I mean the studio has no experience with those, they arent really what they make

[sudden pecan]

Si

[slow sigil]

Why waste that skill?

[outer mulch]

I mean they could just get another studio to develop that game

[slow sigil]

For survival horro, give it to a new studio then. In which case who knows what'll happen

[sudden pecan]

they could expand on the story with the betrayer or something

idk how

[slow sigil]

Doom's story is downright mediocre, gameplay is the only thing that makes them shine

Anyways gtg

[sudden pecan]

oh

bye

Has there always been 10 second slowmode?

[outer mulch]

I like it's story more than it's gameplay 👽👽👽

I like og doom gameplay more than new gameplay

2016 is pretty good since it's closer to 1993 than Eternal

The whole skill based gameplay thing is cool but it's not doom

Og doom you just kind of mindlessly shot at demons

And it's really fucking fun doing it tbh

Eternal is very skill based

Plus you can't just shoot, different enemies require different weapons and have different weaknesses, so it's really a slog to play after you beat the campaign if you can't instantly switch weapons and have a really quick reaction time

[sudden pecan]

if you play it a lot you can zone out and your fingers automatically plays eternal

[outer mulch]

Yes, I am saying this because I'm bad

[sudden pecan]

I find og doom harder than new

idk why though

[strange gale]

every game more complex than RPS is still just RPS with more parameters

[sudden pecan]

Good job

Now you gotta do ancient gods 😈😈😈

no

I mean ultra nightmare

[strange gale]

as in: find the correct response to thing A, restart that process when thing B shows up, repeat as many times as needed

[sudden pecan]

Possibly yeah, you’ll probably beat them before that

It’s only 6 level and tag 2 is easy peasy

7 actually.

if you count dark Lord level as a level

Why couldn’t the slayer just slip under the tentacles

there was clear gaps

Or shoot the tentacles with his arsenal of weapons he has in his back pocket

He was simply putting him out of his misery

[strange gale]

how so? there's a winning condition, there's some obstacle in front of that winning condition (this forms a game), and then playing the game consists of figuring out how to get to the winning condition

[sudden pecan]

nice dude

[azure oriole]

technically he did all that in 10 hours

theres no time jumps in the game

besides obvious flashbacks

[sudden pecan]

probably less time cuz he could probably bash down doors and shit

[azure oriole]

^

[sudden pecan]

still, we’d all probably be dead

[strange gale]

in RPS you win by picking the option that beats the opponent's option, in any other game you win by doing things that beat what the game/opponent presents to you. yes there's usually more than 3 options to consider, but RPS still functions if you add more options to it

[sudden pecan]

he can punch Olivia pierce statue

Bro can kill my bird (somehow)

I used ballista

and heavy cannon

yes

oh you aren’t missing much it’s not really that good

[azure oriole]

L + ratiod

[strange gale]

stickies are the obvious solution, but you can still just shoot them to kill them faster than you would with stickies

[sudden pecan]

same unless it’s doom Hunter

What do you play on?

idfk man

[sacred dirge]

They don't touch grass

[azure oriole]

well ye i mean theres more than just shooting

[sudden pecan]

I died to icon of sin on my first ultra nightmare run and I stopped playing after that for so long

😭😭😭😭

[azure oriole]

personally i want more enemies that make me use the plasma rifle more

[sudden pecan]

same I love plasma rifle

I only really use it on shield zombies to kill multiple ar once

[azure oriole]

like more enemies with Plasma shields like the Doom Hunter

Make the plasma rifle have other uses

[sudden pecan]

Agreed

I gtg

[strange gale]

"ruin" and "forced" are strong words here, quickswitching is better than most of the obvious solutions and so this circles right back around to just shooting things

[sudden pecan]

The blast kills the shield zombies instantly

[azure oriole]

the plasma rifle isnt bad its just theres obvious Super shotgun and ballista switching metas that are just way better

Plasma rifle is NOT useless its the fact end game makes u really play differently and understand whats more useful

which is hard to even make a game where every weapon can be equally useful

The plasma rifle isnt useless against cannon fodder but then again any gun can kill cannon fodder

Yo what game are you guys talking about

Ooh yeah

the plasma rifle can break shields but thats kinda it

Dont use plasma rifle against doom hunters they take too long obviously and their hoverboards are the weak spots

like the ballista is basically your best friend

It’s because I just joined it’s send me straight to here when I joined

besides using Microwave on spirits and killing shielded shotgunmans its not gonna be used a lot to other enemies

ye but like ur draining a lot of ammo

[glossy warren]

lore accurate doomslayer:

[azure oriole]

ive only ever pulled it out if a possessed is around. or im meming around like the chain gun

[glossy warren]

I use it to torture tyrants

quick microwave + ssg, repeat method

[azure oriole]

my idea is to take plasma and find other inspirations to how it can be used. My idea is keeping the microwave but causing it to hit multiple targets ig

something that ig makes me wanna pull it out

why i suggested maybe take inspiration from other games such as Halo

plasma is always the “shield breaker” in games so why not make it break a marauder’s and force em to be aggressively faster ig

[remote kraken]

Hey um at doom slayers computer by the original doom game there is this password thingy what is it

[azure oriole]

flynntaggart

Unlocks doom 2

[remote kraken]

Can you use other passwords

Like secret wise

[outer sable]

no

[remote kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[azure oriole]

oh my fucking god i can kill the raider or whatever his name is in 6 hits if done properly

[outer sable]

bro what is a raider

[remote kraken]

🤨

🧐

[outer sable]

around 8 feet

i actually dont know

wiki dont say

but probably like a circumfrence of a hell baron and a half

[glossy warren]

that's one way of measurement

[outer sable]

not rly

whats the challenge

[azure oriole]

just find a level encounter with a group of cannonfodder and blast em

[azure oriole]

the thing with a shotgun and a dog

[outer sable]

marauder

[glossy warren]

it's called a marauder

[safe schooner]

Do you ever just feel like… a wet noodle?

[rigid gorge]

no

[upbeat sierra]

marauders felt so tough when i first fought them

[rigid gorge]

a furry going postal?

[upbeat sierra]

now im at the urdak map and they're not much of a problem

i have more issues with doom hunters strangely

[azure oriole]

when i first fought the marauders i didnt even feel fustrated

[azure oriole]

The translations are weird

Truly separates from the boy to a man

[upbeat sierra]

i almost never get frustrated at games

[azure oriole]

wait till he plays a souls game

[upbeat sierra]

tho i did die a few times against marauders

[upbeat sierra]

is it good

[azure oriole]

ye

[rigid gorge]

I feel like this belongs here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKgqoV-Lios&t=1s&ab_channel=ThyHolyNoodle

turn down volume if you don't like black metal

[upbeat sierra]

maybe ill try it when im done with the games i bought on black friday

[safe schooner]

Lmao not even you Noodle?

[rigid gorge]

when I shower

[safe schooner]

Guess I’m the only one

[azure oriole]

when theres 4 marauders after u and they wonder why ur laughing…

[upbeat sierra]

marauders stun really easily

[azure oriole]

hammer go brrrr on TAG2

[upbeat sierra]

they take alot of damage just from me using grenades on fodder

[azure oriole]

@outer sable @glossy warren Wait i just checked google translate

Marauder:
a person who marauds; a raider.

[rigid gorge]

Because their a trap you're supposed to use and you have a hammer. But I didn't use either

[azure oriole]

the dark lord is just a big marauder with STD’s

[upbeat sierra]

overall i really like this game

[outer sable]

hyptohetically speaking that dont count

[upbeat sierra]

my first pc fps

[azure oriole]

Technically speaking

[rigid gorge]

Yeah, what do you expect from extreme crunch?

They didn't have their main computers due to covid

[azure oriole]

my only complaints is the quicktime events in Doom eternal

[rigid gorge]

The glory kills?

[azure oriole]

whenever doom guy has a big gun turret to shoot. let me fucking shoot

[rigid gorge]

oh

[azure oriole]

no the cutscenes

[upbeat sierra]

bethesda studios

[rigid gorge]

yeah, not sure why they did that. I mean it couldn't be that hard to just let the play press the button at the very least

[azure oriole]

its one of those scenarios where i cant stand taking control out of the player in these moments

[upbeat sierra]

from bethesda md

[rigid gorge]

but being a dev myself, yeah game development is hell

[upbeat sierra]

generic moms and dads

[lilac marten]

I love Doom Eternal , I just picked it up and the fast paced feeling of it, like how you have to pay a lot of attention to it because if you don't you will immediately die, I just love that.

[upbeat sierra]

i might up the difficulty to nightmare

or is that a large jump

[azure oriole]

Also it was a bit weird when u pick up the Plasma rifle and inspect like its the first time using it yet it isnt and the Cut arch-vile scene

my only nitpicks for eternal. Also i really want movement techs in doom like rocket jumping and such like quake

[rigid gorge]

Whenever you get good or if you already are, you should try not using the chaingun shield and using aircontrol. Really fun to master

[rigid gorge]

bloodpunch jump

[azure oriole]

How do you get the hammer? Also why tf are there 4 marauders on cultist base is that a mod or what

ye

[azure oriole]

U get it in tag2. 2nd dlc

[safe schooner]

I feel you bro… you get that tingly feeling down there MMM Just love Doom

[upbeat sierra]

is it a replay of the whole game but harder

[azure oriole]

no its just more levels for the story

[rigid gorge]

yeah it's Kaiser Campaign. An extra hard remake of the campaign (not done yet). And that was on nightmare, practicing for ultranightmare

[rigid gorge]

tag1 is more difficult, tag2 is a cake walk.

[azure oriole]

I mean it doesnt matter if its nightmare or ultranightmare because you didnt die anyways

[lilac marten]

I might look at getting the original Doom just because I grew up playing it( I'm not a old fossil, one of my family members have a ancient PC that I used to play it on )

[azure oriole]

tbh it be baddass if the game had doom guy running with the sentinal army straight from Avengers Endgame and ur running through the demons

[rigid gorge]

Play it on a pregnancy tester 10/10

[lilac marten]

Prob work

[azure oriole]

instead of just walking into a linear level and seeing the cool atmosphere

but still works

[rigid gorge]

dev crunch

[lilac marten]

No joke some of the new thermostats that are being made are probably good enough to run it.

[upbeat sierra]

ok

[rigid gorge]

inb4 doom is a default program in everything

[upbeat sierra]

i have both i think
i got this game on black friday

played it a little occasionally

[flint musk]

I hate cyber mancubus

[upbeat sierra]

it has a blood punch weakness

i usually charge it and do a blood punch quickly

[lilac marten]

Bruh I just looked up the size of the original doom as a joke and its 30mb

[flint musk]

I know, but if u are not enoughf fast he will hit his shoots to you

[upbeat sierra]

alot of fodder demons to heal with

and maykr drones if applicable

dont anticipate, react

[flint musk]

Yeah thats the thing, im in that fight with 2 titans and like 5 cyber mancubus, that fat ass demons are annoying

[upbeat sierra]

yeah i died to them to my first time

what i do is if he gets close ever i dash immediately

i remember he spammed the dog like 3 times for no reason

[drifting flower]

maurader

[rigid gorge]

jump and bloodpunch or meathook and bloodpunch. He won't do his aoe if you are just above it.

[flint musk]

The thing is when he hits like that acid bomb that fuck me up

[rigid gorge]

if you bloodpunch him from high enough he won't do it

[vestal ridge]

On Xbox its 1.5 GB

[icy ice]

Lock-on burst (or 3 rockets) & blood punch kills it. 2 rockets and blood punch puts it in glory kill

[rigid gorge]

when in doubt just lockonburst and chaingun shield bash

[azure oriole]

ima clap my friend in doom eternal battlemode i just got it for him like last week for his bday hes already played some of the game but that doesnt stop me

[lilac marten]

Xbox edition changes a lot of things

[outer timber]

just got doom eternal deluxe on switch for $23

[versed lily]

feel like this battle in an open area would be soo much worse. Gr8 job regardless

[vestal ridge]

Oh alright my bad

[ruby ridge]

Is UV much worse than Hurt Me Plenty

[alpine plaza]

yes

[rigid gorge]

eh maybe, depends because the fact that I had to avoid triggering the trap to make the challenge work was really annoying

and I'm pretty good at surviving mid air

[safe schooner]

Show off

[gilded cave]

This is so sick

[stuck jolt]

@outer timber I got the regular for 15 today

[stuck jolt]

And still learning

[bright brook]

man i got mine for 30 you lucky

[uneven summit]

Is there a lore explanation for Samuel Hayden's human portrait in 2016 or was it just retconned?

[slow sigil]

Either it's a fake portrait he needed to give more credibility tothe story that he used to be a human or he first put himself in a human and his makyr braim gave the human brain cancer cause it wasnt compatible

[jagged jay]

I got it for 22$

would have been 23 or more if I had to pay tax

[azure oriole]

WHY CANT I USE THE HOOK ON KHAN MAYKR

[slow sigil]

Is her shield down?

Is there enough clear space infront of her so you can meathook her meathooknode?

Like you arent directly underneath her

[ruby ridge]

Just pulled an all nighter beating the first four missions in UV, tired as fuck

Considering knocking out SGN just to get it over with

[nocturne lynx]

Not really, just waited longer.

[shadow cloak]

Hello, i can't see demons flash anymore when they are almost dead, someone can help me? 🥺

[slow sigil]

Option menu

[shadow cloak]

Thanks!

[wary badger]

well my laptops battery broke again

[jovial bear]

my laptops battery has been broken for 2 years and i jut fixed it, i feel you

[wary badger]

this is the 3rd time now

[jovial bear]

sheesh, at this point id buy a new laptop

[wary badger]

my godfather said he wont give me another one

[jovial bear]

you have a godfather? whats it like

[wary badger]

cool gives us gifts i could also ask games, and mcdonalds or jollibe if i requested

[jovial bear]

i see your another jolibee enjoyer too

lemme send a friend request

[grave lake]

does dread knight damage not go towards battlemode milestones???

[crimson forge]

I mean, it should, shouldn’t it

[grave lake]

thats what i thought but it doesnt go towards the mix and match from what ive seen

[crimson forge]

What’s that achievement again

[grave lake]

play 5 different demons

[crimson forge]

My guess is they didn’t update the achievement for battlemode 2.0, so you gotta play the 5 original demons. Archvile, Marauder, Mancubus, Revenant, Pain Elemental. Dread Knight was added later

[azure oriole]

GUYS I BEAT GLADIATOR

IAM SO FAR

My difficult is hurt me plenty

I also have deluxe edition

And doom eternal gave many skins

I only started the game and they gave it

[thorn depot]

Why is the winter mega event so long

I did one playthrough of the campaign and beat it lol

[warm thistle]

I just got eternal and beat 2016 yesterday. It feels so weird with graphics and all cause everything looks so different

[slow sigil]

almost as if they are different games

[warm thistle]

is that sarcasm?

[crimson forge]

It is

[azure oriole]

That was Samuel as a human. No retcon.

[azure oriole]

The latter's right. TAG1 specifically mentions that Samur implanted himself into a "cloned human body". The human backstory for him is still true, aside from the fact that he was an eons-old Maykr before he was a human.

[slow sigil]

i missed the tag1 part it seems

[azure oriole]

It's a Codex line, yeah.

[crimson forge]

I didn’t remember Hayden becoming a human in the codex, I remember reading about it on the wiki and just kinda took it as true, maybe I missed a codex entry

[azure oriole]

I can bring it up, hold on.

also another weird translation: "renevant" is "upiór" in polish which means "ghoul"

[crimson forge]

I mean they’re not dissimilar in definition, plus in the doom RPGs there’s a revenant variant called the ghoul

[azure oriole]

oh

[crimson forge]

I doubt it’s intentional, idk if the polish language has a word for revenant

[azure oriole]

LOL I couldn't find it at first and I was like holy shit was I wrong?

From the Codex entry The Seraphim:

Traveling to the Earthly dimensions, he used his power to establish secret control over the growing UAC organization and implanting his consciousness into a cloned body in order to move among the humans more easily as Dr. Samuel Hayden.
Later in the entry:
Samur transferred his consciousness once again, this time into a technological shell of UAC design, enabling him to sidestep ancient laws and enter Hell during the earliest human expeditions.

[slow sigil]

pretty dumb how the "no makyr can step in hell" rule can be overruled by just.... not looking like a makyr

[azure oriole]

Well it's moreso that Samuel stripped himself of Maykr qualities. He has none of the biological qualities of a Maykr

Including, arguably, a Maykr's memories. So by this point he basically is just the Seraphim's personality in a human's brain in a cyborg's body.

[crimson forge]

It’s a bad comparison but I figure it’s a bit like Odysseus’s trick in the sense that he said his name was Nobody, and when the cyclops cried “Nobody has blinded me!” the gods didn’t listen

[flint flame]

That works yeah

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[patent stream]

Ehhh

So maykr human clone clone dying back to maykr become magic alien again

[slow sigil]

alr yeah if he has no memories then ehhhh ok

[sudden pecan]

Si

[azure oriole]

The no memories thing isn't confirmed, to be clear, but I personally think it's pretty obvious and makes sense. But one could argue I'm simply filling in a plothole with theory.

Just depends on how you look at it, I think.

[slow sigil]

hmmm but then again he does show still quite a lot of knowledge about the makyrs

[patent stream]

Aside from the entire UAC Atlantica when he keeps praising the seraphim and then says to get his body 👀

[slow sigil]

like "magnificent isnt it", knowing the sentinel locator or how it was called, the whole uac self-praising thing

[azure oriole]

Well this stuff ties into my theory: that he only starts to recollect once he gets closer to Maykr status again.

[patent stream]

Unless he removed his memories aside from the absolute self love and praise of his own self, man’s vain as hell

[azure oriole]

Hayden slowly displays more and more knowledge of the Seraphim's dealings and surroundings as his consciousness continues to approach Maykr tech.

As a human: only did normal human shit, was approached by the UAC for his intellect.

As a cyborg with a machine mind: had an intense interest in the Argenta, the Slayer, and Hell, and displayed a very keen ability to engineer and craft the Argent Tower, which was inspired by the Nekravol Citadel. He also is intensely narcissistic, like Samur.

As a consciousness within the Fortress of Doom, which has Maykr architecture: Suddenly gains an intricate knowledge of Hell, the Argenta, and Urdak society, suddenly knowing things that were completely unknowable in 2016, like Argent D'Nur's history, the Slayer's origins, and the Nekravol Citadel. When he approaches the Seraphim, he realizes who he truly is, and merges with the body to attain his full memories.

[patent stream]

All that praise to turn into a squid.

[slow sigil]

kinda random of the most part though

[patent stream]

I still think it woulda been cooler if robot man remained as a separate entity

[slow sigil]

except that vega knew hayden WILL help them locate the translocator which would definitely be makyr knowledge soooo

[sudden pecan]

Me too

[azure oriole]

I always felt that was just VEGA trusting Hayden a shit-ton.

[slow sigil]

i would have liked it if hayden found a makyr/a makyr carrying the father and decided to turn that makyr/father into vega, rather then hayden being samur

[azure oriole]

He's the smartest guy on Earth - would make sense to recruit him.

[slow sigil]

but then why did vega want him specifically for that 1 task?

i dont think vega as an ai would really bullshit something like that

[azure oriole]

Well, that's the first time they were stumped in the game.

They know where everyone is up until now, where they really don't know where Grav could be, so they're like well fuck it I guess Hayden can help.

[slow sigil]

but didn't vega mention it would be specifically for that 1 thing though?

[azure oriole]

IIRC in-game it was like "oh shit we don't know where Grav is. I believe Dr. Hayden can help us."

[slow sigil]

oh i thought he was talking for some specific makyr stuff that wasnt core of mars

[azure oriole]

I personally think when he made himself human, Samur lost his memories, but the actual core of his identity remained -being that he's a narcissistic genius with a hero complex. His memories are "locked" within himself, unable to be "loaded" by a body that can't handle his vast memories.
As his consciousness approaches bodies that can more dutifully handle a Maykr's memories, Samuel's consciousness begins to understand more. As a robot he has an innate interest in the Slayer, Argenta, Hell... as a consciousness in the Fortress he suddenly knows everything about the Argenta and their history, as well as the Maykrs. And so on.

Hi!

[sudden pecan]

???

[flint flame]

Once you have the unmaykr, you can use it when replaying the campaign levels in mission select

[azure oriole]

God I really wish they'd switched the BFG and Unmaykr in Eternal

[flint flame]

But muh shoot hole in mars joke

[sudden pecan]

yes

Not all you have some spare over

[desert viper]

did anyone here try the coop mod?

[sudden pecan]

I had like 4 spare over

you get them from completing all mission challenges aswell

oh

I have a few spare over though and I’ve gotten everything

idk why

[flint flame]

Crucible ammo does not respawn in levels before Tara’s nabad

[slow sigil]

No

[flint flame]

No

[sudden pecan]

there’s crucible ammo before Taras nabad!?!? 🤯🤯

[slow sigil]

There are no spawnpoints for those as there wasnt really a reason to have them

[sudden pecan]

Yes

[slow sigil]

Plus they like, probably forgot

[flint flame]

That’s what you were implying by saying yes to their message

[sudden pecan]

Oh

yeah thanks for correcting me

Yes I got everything

[flint flame]

No???

[sudden pecan]

no?

[flint flame]

You can only revisit once the campaign is over

[sudden pecan]

i have 3 battery's left over after getting everything i just checked

yes

[crimson forge]

I never once thought about Samur/Samuel having a hero complex but now it makes sense, plus if I had Darin De Paul’s sexy, sexy voice I’d probably have a hero complex too

Demons don’t drop health, armor, or anything else I think

[sudden pecan]

no

[flint flame]

4x damage

[sudden pecan]

they dont drop anything you gotta find the stuff on the floor conveniently placed

[flint flame]

Nope

What achievement

I think you’re supposed to use the famine cheat, hell on earth works

Nekravol 1 I believe

It’s the one right after taras nabad

Yes

[slow sigil]

Don't you get more weaponpoints then you can spend?

[flint flame]

Er wait

[sudden pecan]

yes you get 11 more

[flint flame]

Yeah Lucis right

[slow sigil]

Be at the end of a level

[flint flame]

Get to the end of the last fight or before the last fight for some levels

[slow sigil]

Are you at the end of exultia?

Would otherwise break stuff probably

Only if they massivally reworked bfg to be weaker

You get infinite chainsaw and fodder, and thus infinite bfg ammo for no effort at all

People would just very borely grind bfg ammo, cause that would be OP despite unfun

[sudden pecan]

also ultra nightmare would be easier

[light epoch]

ok wtf just happened to me

attempt to beat blood swamps on my ultranightmare save
get killed by the first marauder lmao
this was so stupid im not even mad
decide to play blood swamps anyway on my complete save because why not it's fun
beaten deathlessly on 1st try
bruh moment
wanna keep playing so load the holt right after
0 deaths for my very first time ever including the final boss
mfw

[flint flame]

You probably lost tempo in the marauder fight, it’s very easy to snowball to your death on nightmare and ultra nightmare

That or the UN stress got to you

[light epoch]

yep

still, im satisfied

[azure oriole]

Link embed

Or #screenshots

Holy toledo...

[flint flame]

Bro that’s mancubutt

Go back to the hallway with the bomb chain in the ceiling and the plasma shield guys were, there’s a breakable wall to the left

[fair loom]

How's playing in Ultra Nightmare like?

[glossy warren]

noooo don't kill my precious little boy

[azure oriole]

It's good for super shotgun mastery

[azure oriole]

I don't imagine it would, being a cheat code and all

5 or 6

[crimson forge]

there's a switch you have to shoot above you

[flint flame]

Go down the stairs, turn around and look up

[outer sable]

yo anyone got a battlemode server besides spicy demons

[slow sigil]

maybe spicy demons knows some good alt battlemode servers

[outer sable]

cant go to that server

banned

[slow sigil]

lmfao for what

[outer sable]

raiding with another doom server, and i got banned from that one too same day

[slow sigil]

sounds deserved

[outer sable]

ik i aint say i didnt deserve it

[fervent trout]

What’s the achievement that has the skeleton sitting in ash? I heard it was use a bfg on a fodder demon but it didn’t pop for me

[quiet valley]

yo my doom used to run 120fps

now it always buffer to 40 fps

[crimson forge]

a singular fodder demon, I think it might have to be a zombie

[outer sable]

did you blow on it

[quiet valley]

anyway to fix this?

[quiet valley]

what does that mean?

[outer sable]

nvm, get a pc cleaner or sum or check task manager

[fervent trout]

I tried using it on the zombie in the first room on the first level, but I’ll try it again

[sly wedge]

I'm having the same problem. I've tried doing it multiple times although still haven't gotten the achievement. I think it's just broken

[azure oriole]

Guys i think the marauder drinked a minecraft speed potion for 10x speed

LIKE WHAT'S WRONG WITH MARAUDER SPEED?

[slow sigil]

nothing last time i checked

how is it for you then

[velvet crater]

😳

where did you get this image

how many more demons are that thicc

I'm having many emotions

[outer sable]

red hot cheeks

https://tenor.com/view/icon-of-sin-brb-gif-23688717

[safe schooner]

Me on my way telling my mom I threw up

[tight phoenix]

Lol

[finite heart]

lets see how much i can go in nightmare mode

[odd heron]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-pog-gif-22171410

Cursed cacodemon

[finite heart]

lol

[odd heron]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

Look at bros head

[north glen]

Doomslayers a magician. Can make anyone's neck dissappear in 2 seconds

[small shale]

L

Wait why

[slow sigil]

Congratulations on downgrading

[sacred dirge]

2023 people out here still using micro missiles

[sand ibex]

do doom eternal and 2016 run alright when booting off of an hdd?

do they take forever to load? my main ssd is nearly full and doom eternal and 2016 are my biggest games installed there so i want to move them to my hdd to free up space, but i might not do it if it will heavily impact performance/load times

[sacred dirge]

Nah you'll be fine

[sand ibex]

cool

yeah thats probably fine, like how long? (its a 7200rpm hdd btw)

ah

[rare cliff]

Does eternal run well on the xbox one

Might be a stupid question but just in case

[tribal orbit]

Runs great

[rare cliff]

Nice

[slow sigil]

Is your playstyle simply straight up ignoring one of the best damaging combos ingame?

In that case it's a downgrade though

There's 4 pb combos and they are 10 times more interactive then autoaim m1 m2

"Shreds"

Relative to pb combos not really

You announced it in a public chat, i was just simply stating it's an downgrade but nothing specifically negative

Yes which you took

You are the one coming in saying "guys i am deciding to take the worse option" and then state untrue things like "it shreds"

Half the weaponmods ARE boring

"Gun shoots faster" is incredibly boring design they copied 3 times

And then they are inferior to other forms of dps whilst.... having dps be the only thing going for them

It's not elitism to state it's an objective downgrade and boring design though

Ok so "gun shoots faster" done over 3 guns is creative?

Despite it being not different to base fire for 2 of them even?

You can literally do dps comparisons buddy

Atleast we can agree on them being worse then ig

I hope next game they have the mods better balanced and some more creative designs/features

[azure forum]

It is not, but on higher level it is the most optimal way to play.

Whatever makes you happy son

[indigo juniper]

I WAS 2 HOURS INTO TARAS NABAD MASTER LEVEL AND IT FUCKIGN CHRASHED

I WAS SO FUCKING CLOSE

[azure forum]

I've felt that pain. You'll get it next time son you'll come back stronger

[indigo juniper]

I know what it saw: don’t chainsaw a pinky’s toe

[sudden pecan]

Yeah happened to me once I was at the end of Mars core in ultra nightmare

[indigo juniper]

Fuck the steam deck

[sudden pecan]

😢😢😢

[indigo juniper]

[azure forum]

How so? It is an amazing device

[indigo juniper]

Made me loose 2 hours of me clobbering pinkies in master level

[azure forum]

And how's that the SD fault?

[craggy forge]

I still don't understand why you can't save and quit master levels

[azure oriole]

On a Hugo stream some time ago it was said that it would have interfered with campaign saves

[slow sigil]

Yeah if they had it early on it would be simple but later on in development i would be hell reprogramming saves to allow it

[woven rivet]

Does anyone else wish snapmap was in eternal?

[cyan frigate]

that reminds me i gotta try the xbox series x quick resume thing never utilized it before

[warm jolt]

How can I get dread knights skins?

[prime terrace]

Yo so I got eternal on steam deck and quickly realized that this game is unplayable on controller but I can’t like… turn the controller support off
How do I do that lol

It just keeps up the controller button prompts so I can’t even really start the level

[unkempt flame]

Yo the crucible blade SLAPS

[azure oriole]

Unplayable? Untrue!

[azure forum]

I think you can dl it from game settings. Go to settings and disable the controller.

[azure oriole]

I played it on controller. Twice!

[boreal patio]

does anyone have a fixed for my steam deck issue for doom enternal

i cant play on controller at all its not im stuck on the menu i spam a so many times

[patent stream]

Tried changing the proton ?

Verified files.

Checked that the proper controller layout is enabled with steam button -> controllers

Tried downloading Proton GE?

[boreal patio]

i havent try proton ge

[patent stream]

Tried changing the deck to beta branch OS?

[boreal patio]

like it was working on the first day on the steam deck like when i got it

[patent stream]

Tried making sure you have button set/ changing a different button to start the menu

Or reverting controller to default

[mild gorge]

Hey guys, I have a question, I thought they had fixed this bug when I first encountered back when TAG2 launched but at the world spear where the arena where you encounter the armored barons, got to the end and it spawned endless imps, no matter how much I try, they just keep spawning, and I am doing this on extra life mode, I heard going back to most recent checkpoint fixes this but it only allows me to reset mission, is there any way to get through this?

[sly pier]

Quick question, is the Ancient gods or horde mode hard? Like not impossible but significantly more challenging than the base game. I haven't played either besides like 2 DLC levels on a different save file a while back. I'm playing on Hurt Me Plenty, and so far (just finished second to last level) I haven't died a single time not counting extra lives.

[patent stream]

You might have to lower your main difficulty while you get used to the change

Dlc start you maxed out and throws big stuff right away

Hordemode gets progressively difficult

[sly pier]

Ok that makes sense, does the DLC give you 100% unlocks?

[mild gorge]

nvm, I just had to basically try over and over until it fixed itself lol jeez...

[sly pier]

https://tenor.com/view/engineering-stephen-sharer-engineer-builder-designing-gif-18104145

[spice temple]

Wassup guys

I wanted to ask; is the DLC free? I looked it up and one answer says it’s 30 bucks and another answer says it’s free

[dull herald]

whoever said its free is incorrect

[spice temple]

Dang, how much does it cost?

[dull herald]

depends on the currency but it is about 30 bucks canadian

iirc

20-30 dollar range

[quiet valley]

You should probably wait until there's a sale

i bought it when it was under 10 bucks

[spice temple]

Yeah, 30 bucks is a lot 😬
I’ll wait for a sale

[quiet valley]

On the 23rd there's gonna be a sale

[azure oriole]

doom on ultra- nightmare is hard, not lying

[dull herald]

erm u are lying its so easy .....

[spice temple]

Noice

[idle cargo]

Exactly

Micro Missiles have terrible damage and are not worth using at all

[idle cargo]

Its a step up from 2016 I would say

2016 had more boring mods for sure

People say "oh the sequel sholdn't be an Eternal iterative sequel beacuse you can't improve on Eternal"

MF yes you can, in a ton of ways

I actually like that there is still so much room for improvement for Doom 6

Have fun with the obhjectively inferior playstyle because you are an infernor player who can't PB combo for shit

Neither can I and I admit I am inherently inferior because of that

You deserve ALL the insults thrown your way in the future for playing that way

[sly pier]

PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS SATIRE

[mossy lodge]

let him have fun

[sly pier]

e x a c t l y

[mossy lodge]

we shouldn't fight over which mods are better and which aren't

if someone wants to use micro missiles instead of PB who are we to judge?

[sly pier]

"You deserve ALL the insults thrown your way in the future for playing that way" for playing like that? for playing a video game? how could he? We must kill this man!

[velvet gale]

I beat the icon of sin yay

[sly pier]

oh lets gooo

[velvet gale]

I was having a stroke trying to fight it and the rest of the demons at once

[mossy lodge]

ggs man

[velvet gale]

It was a fun campaign

[sly pier]

yeah, im loving replaying it after a few years.

[velvet gale]

I’m gonna start the first dlc in a bit

[sacred dirge]

Don't do drugs kids

[idle cargo]

Prove me wrong I dare you

Destroyer Blade is way more interesting than Siege Mode

Charged Burst is just diet Full Auto

Gatling Rotator is the exact same as the Chaingun, just without windup. Even if it is broken, Chaingun Shield is more interesting and has more to offer than that.

Anyone who even tries to defend Gatling Rotator is a fool, it isn't worth it

[idle cargo]

Lacking the brain capacity to do realize "this weapon mod is shit, I shouldn't use it"

[ionic root]

Me like big gun tho

[sly pier]

Bro out here adding evidence to my argument

[ionic root]

Isn't Doom Eternal mainly a single player experience anyway? Shouldn't a "correct" way to play now exist and instead is up to the player's choosing?

[idle cargo]

Your big gun is dogshit and you should be embarrassed

[ionic root]

Naw, I have fun with it, that's all I care about

[idle cargo]

You're deliberately sabotaging your fun by using inferior tactics

[ionic root]

Not really, Eternal is still my favorite fps ever, all I care for

Doesn't matter how people play, having fun in a game is what matters

[sacred dirge]

I can't make you like something you don't through discord. But like always its on you. I think tac scope is alot more fun than pb for example but micro is where it's at. Remote detonation is dog shit in eternal and so on. I just think you need to stop thinking your personal feelings about things are facts. It's weird

[mossy lodge]

ever heard of "to each they're own"?

instead of being toxic to other players for not playing a mostly single player game how you want to, just appreciate that others can still do well with different combos

because if the game was only these certain combos, the game would be boring

[idle cargo]

I have yet to see this man "doing well"

[strange gale]

[idle cargo]

Realistically the Remote Deth's strength should be somewhere in between the 2016 and Eternal iterations

[digital musk]

I like your pp

[idle cargo]

Not overpowered but not horrible

[digital musk]

That’s true

[idle cargo]

At least we can agree the Gatling Rotator isn't good

[digital musk]

Indeed

[idle cargo]

Its the laziest mod in 2016 probably

[digital musk]

Definitely

[sacred dirge]

Hahaha ya fuck that shit brother

[digital musk]

Yes

[idle cargo]

Ok I give up the act, yeah in all seriousness

Its just sad that quickswapping overshadows so many weapons and mods

[digital musk]

Most likely

[idle cargo]

I hope they can implement more combat strategies in the future

[digital musk]

Ok fr what are we talking about here guys

[idle cargo]

People can play however they want

But there are some weapon mods that I just think "why do you even bother using that"

Mainly Gatling Rotator

[digital musk]

What are we talking about guys

[idle cargo]

Something that is not just underpowered but also mechanically dully and boring

[sacred dirge]

This is facts. Quick swaps wasn't supposed to be what it Is people forget that. It was just supposed to keep combat flow smooth. It was never intended to be a base mechanic

[digital musk]

Yo waht we talk bout in this moment

🫃🏻

[sacred dirge]

Gert

[digital musk]

🤓

[idle cargo]

Also, anyone else think the tendrill effects for the BFG 9000 are way better than the ones in Doom 2016

The BFG tendrils in Doom 2016 looked like stock green lighting gifs

The ones in Eternal move around like electric tentacles, its cool

[sacred dirge]

99 percent of kids here haven't played 2016 to begin with

[idle cargo]

True, at least know that while i am late to it somewhat since I finished Eternal first

I beat 2016 and am currently on a Nightmare playthrough of it

The only thing with Remote Det in early game for me is that I can easily get myself killed with it on NM

[sacred dirge]

Nightmare in 2016 is sexy af I can't even tell the difference from uv to nightmare in eternal

[idle cargo]

Other than that yeah its a top 3 weapon mod

[idle cargo]

I feel like Nightmare in Eternal with 2016 levels of difficulty would be too much

Especially early game, considering almost everything can two tap you at that point

[wary badger]

Doom guy hitting the griddy outside of fortnite

[idle cargo]

Time to feel old I guess

Doom Eternal was built for near 10 year old systems

Yes that is right, PS4 and XBox One will both turn 10 this year

PS3 and XBox 360 are almost 20 years old as they came out in 2006 and 2005 respectively

[slow sigil]

Every mechanic quickswapping has was intented, it's just that id didnt foresee the combination of them

[slow sigil]

Never said much about fun

Only that it is an downgrade
Which..... it just is

[sacred dirge]

It really wasn't it was made a mechanic in eternal though but originally it was just supposed to be weapon changing that didn't slow down pace

[slow sigil]

Weaponswapping without a cooldown is intented so it kinda is

[sacred dirge]

It wasn't at all Hugo has done a few interviews on that. I see what you're trying to say though

[slow sigil]

They didnt intend for it to end up in quickswapping but the mechanics itself where intented

[sacred dirge]

Switching weapons quickly to keep the combat flow was intended. Ssg seige combo or stun det wasnt

[mossy lodge]

even if he isn't doing well, who are you to tell him how to play?

[atomic basin]

I’ve played doom 2016

[warm jolt]

How can I get dread knight skins

[azure oriole]

Dread knight skins are battlemode exclusive

[grave lake]

truce between demons milestone is going to drive me crazy

[flint snow]

Are the marauder and archvile the only demons that don't infight?

[nocturne lynx]

2016 on NM at times was just rubbish.

Looking at you, VEGA Central Processing.

Also GK a good bit of the time being kinda worthless.

[flint snow]

The first arena on Nightmare in 2016 is brutal

Also who's idea was it to have Imps that climb the levels like fucking chimpanzees

[strange gale]

rolling anything other than a nat 20 on gk health drops in 2016 just means you fucking die right after the iframes end

[quiet valley]

yeah hello

my doom is running on 40fps but it used to run on 140fp, somebody said to use a pc cleaner and i did and it still doesn't work any help pls?

my Vram is 4231MiB

and im on windows

playing on low settings and resolution is 1920 1080

[flint snow]

Why is idtech 7 exclusively vulcan rendering?

[quiet valley]

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)

thats what it saids and i don't know what that means

Intel(R) HD Graphics 630

is that badd?

i solve this problem once with turing the vertical sync with tripple buffering now its back to potato mode

so then what do i do?

[devout pumice]

play on lowest graphics, maybe lower your res

[brittle quest]

It's an integrated graphics card, I'm pretty sure that's below minimum specs for DE.

Infact, I'm amazed you managed to get 140 frames on it.

[quiet valley]

so should i upgraded or something?

[devout pumice]

yup time to buy a new gpu

[brittle quest]

Indeed, you should upgrade if you want to play anything more than simple 2d really.

[devout pumice]

damn your name looks very familiar

[quiet valley]

welp back to playing ultrakill

can i run ultrakill with my spec?

[devout pumice]

thats somehow both funny and sad at the same time

[jagged jay]

Are these requirements for doom eternal

ngl doom eternal is optimized to oblivion, it runs amazing on PC, ps5 and even ps4 and Xbox.

Switch port is not up to par tho but it even running at all on a tablet is impressive

The ID engine is great

[quiet valley]

nv,, i fix it

turns out the only thing i had to do was turn down the res

[devout pumice]

yea

I dont know

do you know natesuki?

alright wrong toaster sorry

[crystal widget]

What do you think is the best weapon in the game?

[tulip grove]

Super Shotgun

[odd heron]

Yeasss

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doom-shotgun-gif-20891501

[burnt moss]

Plasma rifle

[slow sigil]

[noble lintel]

What's your favourite demon (based in design, abilities, lore or whatever)?

From Eternal if it's possible, I don't know a whole lot 'bout the Doom lore

[slow sigil]

probably archviles or dreadknights

[nocturne lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-opinion-opinion-gif-22134945

Never used it once I got the Rocket Launcher.

[noble lintel]

Plasma Rifle is my favourite gun. Kinda sad it isn't as strong as the other ones, but hey, spraying a Tyrant with more than half a clip it's a merit of it's own, right?

[azure oriole]

L

[jagged jay]

Why is the unmaykr not in horde mode

[random vault]

[nocturne lynx]

No one uses it. At all.

[random vault]

liar

i use it

[jagged jay]

Damn im no one then 🥲

It's fun to use but not as strong as the bfg obviously

[nocturne lynx]

Nah you’re Mayo then.

[random vault]

[azure oriole]

[cloud trout]

BFG

https://tenor.com/view/doom-boom-intercontinental-missile-gif-21571439

[slow sigil]

the bfg stunlocks the entire arena while you shoot 1 chunk off of the icon
is the unmaykr able to destroy all his armour, except maybe 1 or 2 fragments without reloading? otherwise bfg is better

[azure oriole]

This reminds me, wish we could've gotten the original hud as an option in the final build

[cloud trout]

Original Hud like the original doom?

[azure oriole]

From the quakecon build

[slow sigil]

those have less hp so the bfg is also less important against those

[cloud trout]

True but i just really like it for some reason!

[slow sigil]

plus you dont have enough bfg armour to shoot ALL his pieces anyways with bfg

[cloud trout]

Or the crucible which i pretty much frickin love

[slow sigil]

i wished the crucible wasnt that boring

[cloud trout]

Yeah, i like that one

[cloud trout]

I wish it had more Ammo

[jagged jay]

Atleast we have the hammer

[cloud trout]

The Hammer was great against marauders

[slow sigil]

which sadly is disgustingly OP

so much so that it takes away from the fun

[jagged jay]

Nah being op is fun, being the doom slayer 101

[cloud trout]

Also I'm on TAG1 and i fought the roided Marauder

Bro it was FUN!

[jagged jay]

Spamming the double barrel and the laser weapon combo with quickswitching is broken too

[slow sigil]

your stuff still should have balance though

[jagged jay]

I don't even remember the weapon names and I played it yesterday lmaoo

[slow sigil]

way less and those dont restock nearly everything you have

[cloud trout]

I play on Console so quickswitching gets a bit hard

[jagged jay]

U right

[jagged jay]

Once you learn how to do it consistently it's not that bad on console

[cloud trout]

Well i have to, The Ancient gods pt 1 is difficult

[jagged jay]

What difficulty u on?

[cloud trout]

Ultra-Violence

[jagged jay]

Yeah it can get hard sometimes

[cloud trout]

Don't get me started on the first trial

Had the save the BFG for the end I'll tell you that

And those goddamn archviles

[slow sigil]

archviles

[jagged jay]

People always complain about marauders, but I complain about archvilles.

[cloud trout]

ONG

[jagged jay]

They are not hard but so so annoying

[cloud trout]

I love the Marauders, they are fun to fight, but the hate i have for archvilles.

[jagged jay]

Saame

[slow sigil]

i like archviles cause unlike the marauder, they actually fit within the arena

[cloud trout]

Wdym?

[slow sigil]

marauders dont really fit in in the game

[jagged jay]

Archvilles are demon groots

[slow sigil]

within the arena fights

[jagged jay]

I love the marauders tho

[slow sigil]

whereas archviles do, their attacks arent anything extraordinary, but if you let them summon/buff stuff you are in for trouble

and sped up demons are extremely fun and chaotic to fight

[slow sigil]

i dont like em at all. they are annoying and buggy

[cloud trout]

Bro those roided Demons are tough

[jagged jay]

Yeah until you play on ultra nightmare 🗿

[cloud trout]

[slow sigil]

that's your punishment for simply not killing them nor interrupting them

[cloud trout]

True, everything is bad on Ultra Nightmare

[slow sigil]

UN is the exact same difficulty as normal nightmare

[cloud trout]

Oh nah, i do that, I'm just saying they are tough to fight

[slow sigil]

yeah, but in a good way

[jagged jay]

Shiii its bad on nightmare too then

You know something else I hate, spirits that control barons and stuff.

Bullet sponge simulator when a spirit takes them

[cloud trout]

Yeah, and Hell Knights too

[slow sigil]

hell knights arent too tanky

[cloud trout]

They get all up in your face too

[slow sigil]

honestly if spirits just almost never took super heavies they would be great

[jagged jay]

With quick switching they are not that bad but still bad

[slow sigil]

if only there was a button that lets you dash away from them

[jagged jay]

Even with quick switching it takes a million bullets to kill a possessed hell baron

[cloud trout]

I know that stuff.. I'm jus sayin

[cloud trout]

Still haven't fought one of those

[jagged jay]

Thats big brain, ID software should hire you to add a feature that is probably already there 😳

[jagged jay]

you see them all the time in horde mode ending section

The last waves in horde mode on nightmare, absolute hell.

[cloud trout]

That's..gotta be annoying

[glossy warren]

blood swamps

[cloud trout]

Oh yeah, been there..only completed the first trial tho

[sacred dirge]

Definitely a challenge

[flint snow]

I like them just wish they were spammed less. Some encounters with them are a tad obnoxious. Like the ones in both Nekravol levels. The secret encounter in Taras Nabad and Arc Complex are fine tho.

I feel like making one or two of them an aerial fight would have been good, where you have to meathook off of enemies or grapple points and damage them in mid air.

[slow sigil]

Except marauders literally do not work like that

[flint snow]

That's my point, they have 0 depth.

I'm trying to give them some depth

[slow sigil]

They should have like atleast 2 more interuptible attacks or something like that

[flint snow]

I'm fine with enemies in games not playing by the rules laid out in the rest of the game, so long as playing how they want me to play is actually fun and challenging.

[slow sigil]

I mwan the marauder itself is a set of rules
It's just that, as you said, those rules suck ass

[flint snow]

A good example is in Resident Evil where hunters can kill you instantly even if you're at full health, you can telegraph its attacks and once you understand that you can avoid most of his attacks by sticking to his left, it's actually a fun encounter

[flint snow]

The marauder not having a weak point sucks ass

[flint flame]

That is not the biggest issue

[slow sigil]

his green felsh practically is

[flint snow]

I'd much prefer us being able to remove his shield either by meathooking it off of him or by microwave beaming it

[slow sigil]

in that case he would be a wayyy too boring of an enemy

[flint snow]

The green flash is more a pace killer than anything

[slow sigil]

just make it so that he has more green eye attacks so you can actually hit him during an arenafight without bugging out by enemy fire aswell

like bmaykrs, who do it more in the middle of the room with better time to react

[flint flame]

Also patch out the fucking enemy fire causing him to shield and thus summon dog, that shits not a feature

[slow sigil]

also make it so you can shoot him 1 frame earlier

shooting him the first frame of green eyes makes him still block it.... and you still hear the green flash vfx

[flint snow]

How does that extra frame help me?

[slow sigil]

it's mistimed
if you shoot him the frame he green eyes, he blocks but there still is a green flash and soundcue

[flint snow]

A better idea would be letting us deflect his energy blades back to him, and if we hit him with them while he's shielding, it's disabled for the rest of the encounter

[slow sigil]

not the rest

[flint snow]

Well temporarily

[slow sigil]

disabling his shield permanently would just be stupid

in any way or shape

i'm not talking about davoth

[flint snow]

I think Id thought too much about putting in conceptually cool enemies with great designs rather than enemies that function mechanically first.

It is possible to have enemies that work both conceptually and mechanically. Other franchises do it, doom just can't for some reason

And some of the enemies designs this go around feel very mid compared to 2016

Namely cybermanc

[azure oriole]

I struggle to name many enemy designs in 2016 that are outright better than Eternal's, other than, uh. Zombies I guess.

[slow sigil]

different deisgn philosophy aswell

in 2016 they are made more grim and uhhhh "zombie" like

[sacred dirge]

Revs better for one. I like the barons look more also

[azure oriole]

I'll give you Revenants, that's a good point. Not Barons though. The lava body is raw as hell.

[sacred dirge]

Just dig the classic design

[crimson mesa]

Get the boost with the fully mastered micro-missles and melt them down. It's just fun as shit

[slow sigil]

classic with lava 😳

[marble thistle]

my familily said doom or them i live alone im not letting my 1000 hours go to waste would you guys do the same?

[north glen]

Errrm, better question is how tf u played doom for that long

Yeah but still

[shell field]

What do you all think the new doom game will be like (story wise)

[north glen]

He's played for over a year straight

Or ur a gigachad who has time for doom, working out and has a wife. Plays with one hand, pumps iron with the other while the wife's making dinner

[shell field]

I have a question why aren't community slayer suits a thing?

[signal dirge]

Barons are their OG color. Cacos and Revenant.

[signal dirge]

custom slayer skins are, but the ability to mod DOOM that much isn't possible yet.

[north glen]

*none of the above

That type of a sigma does not exist. He would ascended to the haven't, be more power than the slayer himself

[azure oriole]

Cacos are much better in Eternal for being more expressive and having blue blood.
Barons have their OG color in 2016 but they look cooler and are better in Eternal. The ashen skin is awesome.

[north glen]

CHESS, LETS GOOOOO

What's ur rating

Hey @azure oriole if the seraphim was gods right hand man, why wasn't he just the eternal Khan makyr too. Wouldn't that make more sense, putting his right hand in a position of power and ruling

Wtf, wdym u suck

[signal dirge]

Revenant in 2016 is my personal favorite between the two. Classic Revenant skin over everything else. I get the design change is explained through them being manufactured by a cultist division, other than 2016's underground Lazarus Operations

I'll probably make a mod that changes the revenant's jetpack to the classic metal colors

[shell field]

I saw a irl slayer armour on ebay but...
It costs £2000

[signal dirge]

worth every pence

[shell field]

True

[north glen]

Bhahahah. I'm like 200 or smth and I consider myself ok. We talking abt chess.com right? It's also mainly bc I win the game but go over 50 moves so it's classed as a draw

[signal dirge]

I'm getting a 3D printer next paycheck so I'm going to make my own armor.

[shell field]

I think it was like £2830 I think

[north glen]

At least buy the official helmet replica bc why no. Cooler to have some official stuff

[signal dirge]

m0nologue going to rewrite his document from memory explaining to me why I'm wrong about the 2016 revenant being a stylistically better design than Eternal's

[azure oriole]

Oh Jesus fucking Christ

[signal dirge]

LOOOOOOOOOL!!!

[azure oriole]

I agree with the Revenant thing though.

[signal dirge]

👍

[shell field]

I feel like there should be events in eternal where custom made skins could be unlocked

[signal dirge]

They should have brought in the Harvester as an enemy.

[north glen]

So what language does vega flag and what doesn't he. Bc ngl the games 18+ so shouldn't the server be too and just no care abt language

[signal dirge]

It's rated M for mild language (hell and damnation) and violence. other than that, doom is for all ages

[azure oriole]

TLDR - The Khans have always ruled Urdak. 10000 years, Khan dies, new Khan serves. Most were nice. The latest one is corrupt and evil and she has lived far longer than she's supposed to.
The Seraphim is above ruling Urdak itself; he is a "minister of creation". The Father is Urdak's God, not their king. That's the Khan's job.

[marble thistle]

well i dont go to school finished early and i had nothing else to do so im going for all 50 achivements but most of the time i play horde

[north glen]

The pegi is 18+

[azure oriole]

VEGA flags the B-word for some lame-ass reason, and unfortunately it's a word I use a lot.

[signal dirge]

For extreme violence.

and some swearing.

[marble thistle]

same dude i cant walk for 7months after surgery

[shell field]

I have basically all the doom games except for doom 3 (I have doom 3 but on vr) and doom 2 which 1 should I get next?

[signal dirge]

Hope the leg recovers.

[azure oriole]

It has nothing to do with feminism, lol.

[north glen]

Makes sense, ik abt the khan's dying and stuff and how the current (dead) Khan lived bc the creator of khan's whatever made the was destroyed so she lived on but I never knew how powerful the seraphim was actually supposed to be. Thansk

[signal dirge]

Urdak is responsible for Crop Circles

[azure oriole]

Kinda doesn't. I know plenty of feminists, none of them give a shit about that word.

[marble thistle]

thanks they just finished the worst part but in like 2months its another surgery

[shell field]

I have basically all the doom games except for doom 3 (I have doom 3 but on vr) and doom 2 which 1 should I get next?

[signal dirge]

VFR, I guess.