doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

fps 🗿

[covert zephyr]

Hey

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-marine-doom-guy-doom-eternal-doom-gif-21755318

How yall doin

[azure oriole]

bad

getting ready to school at 4:14 am

I only slept 3 hours. I'm gonna stay in that school for 9

[flint flame]

[flint flame]

The amount of times this gif has been posted

[azure oriole]

you're in doom server where there are thousands and millions of doom pfp's which keep posting these gifs 🗿

[waxen field]

Probably cause you can easily look it up in Discord

[burnt moss]

If that’s his experience then it’s valid. Why do you think it’s silly? The discussion was about performance.

MC ML is hard

[sacred dirge]

you're such a gert

[burnt moss]

What’s a gert

[sacred dirge]

If his experience is pizza taste bad it doesn't mean it's right in any way or makes the statement any less dumb. If he's having slow fps it isn't the games fault. It's his

[burnt moss]

If he has played Eternal and 2016 on the same rig and 2016 feels like it runs slower than Eternal, then that’s a valid point. His rig’s power becomes irrelevant because it is a constant, not a variable in the comparison

[waxen field]

Some pizza does taste pretty bad though like school pizza

[sacred dirge]

That's just a really stupid statement. I'm going to bed

[slow crown]

2016 way easier

[sacred dirge]

Nightmare was harder

[slow crown]

I didn't play it that much I beat the campaign and quit

I'm playing eternal now

[waxen field]

Slower is bad phrasing, saying it runs worse is how most people would phrase it

[sacred dirge]

Like seriously " I'm getting 120fps in eternal and 120 fps in 2016 but 2016 has worse frames per second... okay yeah done with discord for the day

[waxen field]

That’d be a frame pacing issue

[sacred dirge]

Yee

[burnt moss]

This BMW has the same 0-60 as that Mustang but the BMW breaks down more often. That’s what he’s saying in terms of FPS.

[sacred dirge]

Ahh that makes more sense

[waxen field]

That being said 2016 doesn’t have frame pacing issues from what I’m aware of.

[sacred dirge]

In my experience though bmws break down more

[sacred dirge]

First time I've ever heard that before also

[burnt moss]

My interpretation is based on his use of the term “fps drops”

I’ve never heard it either. I just object to you treating him like he was dumb.

Nobody treats me like I’m dumb for hating the Switch’s limitations like fps drop and crashing on Master Levels.

[waxen field]

It’s inconsistent time between frames From Software games are infamous of this due to a flaw with the engine they’ve used since Demon’s Souls.

[burnt moss]

I only half understood that. Are you saying there’s a good reason for inconsistent fps on all Doom games?

New Doom anyway

[waxen field]

Nah I just said that cause a game can have a stable frame rate while still technically having fps issues.

[burnt moss]

Are you talking about intermittent fps issues? Like on specific encounters?

[waxen field]

I said it cause the other commenter seemed to think the only possible fps issue is fps drops

[burnt moss]

Isn’t that the same thing you’re talking about?

[waxen field]

I explained it poorly the length of the frame itself is the issue when it comes to frame pacing

[burnt moss]

Yeah but that’s not a problem 2016 has. I don’t think. Were you explaining that to Gougaru?

[waxen field]

^

[burnt moss]

Frame pacing and fps drops are two separate issues right?

[waxen field]

Yea

[burnt moss]

And you were saying 2016 has pacing issues not fps drops?

[waxen field]

By possible I meant any game not specifically 2016

[burnt moss]

Oh ok. So the guy being made fun of was saying 2016 suffers from worse fps drops than Eternal. I don’t think he was referencing generally slower fps

[midnight sparrow]

Funnily enough today we where talking about how DOOM 2016 runs worse then Eternal

Like 2016 is a masterpiece don’t get me wrong but FPS drops are something many people experience across all kinds of games

Sometimes it’s the games fault for being poorly optimized others it’s the players hardware not being suited for the game

[burnt moss]

It should not surprise anyone that older software is less optimized

[burnt moss]

I probably should have used my crucibles on the double Archies in early mars core master level (right before you take the maintenance hatch downward)

[flint quiver]

Yup just ...-MAYBE-...

[dapper rivet]

Nooooo, i wanted to see the argument

[dapper rivet]

I Don't play master levels but 2 archviles and no crucible sounds like a very bad situation

[burnt moss]

But I never know if I’ll want the crucibles later

[burnt moss]

I envy you

[azure oriole]

if the doomslayer talked would he say one-liners or be an edgyass

none of the above

[tame violet]

he just infodumps about rabbits

[icy ice]

Save em for later. Ice bomb & double lock-on the first one and use the quad damage power up on the second

I usually use a crucible on the very first archvile in the level, and ice bomb and two lock-one for the second one.

[azure oriole]

Just use them whenever, you'll get plenty of bfg for harder encounters

[shut phoenix]

whats a good combo to kill a tyrant

[icy ice]

Ice bomb, db and 2 blood punches to weaken it and then a few ssg-whatever cycles will kill it

[shut phoenix]

thx man

[icy ice]

Alternatively, shoot it until it dies 😎

[shut phoenix]

fax

[icy ice]

I'm probably going to have to restart my TAG1 UN run. Going into the holt boss fight without a saving throw seems like a bad idea

[azure oriole]

Just try it

If you die you'll restart then

[shut phoenix]

sorry to act like an idiot, im pretty new to the game anyway, what does db mean lol

[slow sigil]

Hey it's better to try then do restart anyways

At worst you get some practice

[azure oriole]

Destroyer blade

[shut phoenix]

oh ok

[burnt moss]

I have bad luck with dblade so I try to mostly LOB (Lock On Burst) Tyrants from the air

[shut phoenix]

thats how I kill the tyrant most the time but I just thought that there was a quicker way and I guess there is

[azure oriole]

There are several tyrant combos

yes

the quickest one is killai in console

or I pull my booba and do torn to oblivion to him 😂

but besides my bad jokes.
slob pb would be prolly good

or slob bal pb idk if thats too long

[slow sigil]

Freeze>dblade>pb slobs is probs the fastest, not too highly complicated combo

[azure oriole]

Ssg punchswap into slobs + ballista is fairly simple and fast

But even plain pb rocket is relatively quick

Basically anything with a double slob is fast since double slob consumes half the tyrant's health, give or take

Pb rl lob lob is 5080 damage when accounted for tyrant's resistance to lock on

[warped sage]

What’s a slob

[azure oriole]

Sylar lock on burst

[slow sigil]

Yeah but ssg doesnt get a damage boost on a freezed tyrant

[azure oriole]

Then don't freeze

ywah get gud and learn to aim /j

[wary badger]

doom guy sus

he vents

and breaks vents

[azure oriole]

omg I only now saw, what's that slayer pfp, remove it at once, yuck

😄

[warped sage]

wait what’s wrong with my Slayer PFP

[azure oriole]

reputation. cuz most of doom slayers pfp are edgy big ego kids who dont care about anyone or anything and there are annoying cuz of their big ego.

and much other things

[azure oriole]

nothing, joking

(but change it)

[mighty urchin]

Hola

[green phoenix]

It’s too hot 🥵

[zinc sage]

my progress is not synced on xbox and steam

wtf bethesda, its the same account

and by progress i don't mean saves, i mean cosmetics n' stuff

[flint flame]

Nothing transfers between platforms

All the account does is hold slayers club skins

[azure oriole]

[sacred dirge]

Default is the best anyways

[burnt moss]

That’s like saying pizza is bad 😉

You gert

[sacred dirge]

Now you got it

[burnt moss]

It’s big brain time

[azure oriole]

Now you gert it

[burnt moss]

[azure oriole]

[edgy fjord]

clearly you don’t have the doom 64 skin

[cyan frigate]

or just duo dblade tech🫣

[ember void]

EGGAWOTT NO

default is the best okay...

[cyan frigate]

bu but 64 skin is seggsy 😞🤘

[ember void]

omg but default is literally regular doom slayer!! rip and tear and stuff!! xd

genuinely sry for saying that :c

[brittle quest]

You clearly haven't seen the pink praetor skin! It's so good that it gives me schizoprenia!

[cyan frigate]

schizo gaming

[strange gale]

goofy chat

[ember void]

ummmmmmmm idk if thats a real skin floir...... but u may be right idk im not a schizo yet i guess i gotta try the skin for myself :3

[edgy fjord]

ehhh i prefer biker

he’s like guy fieri if he killed demons and he wasn’t blonde

[burnt moss]

And he wasn’t guy fieri

[zinc sage]

by slayer's club you mean the battlepass?

i didn't get them transfered either

[burnt moss]

What’s battle Pass

[zinc sage]

the seasonal skin for levels thin

idk if its actually called that in-game, but it feels like a BP (burh i typed thing with a k)

[burnt moss]

Is it awarded on the Bethesda site itself?

[zinc sage]

idk :/

[burnt moss]

Are you talking about the events where you earn skins?

[zinc sage]

the quake ranger skin finally got transferred to my pc tho, problem solved

[burnt moss]

By getting xp

[zinc sage]

yeah

[burnt moss]

Those won’t transfer

[zinc sage]

what's even the point of this account then

[burnt moss]

Very little. I think it’s dumb

[zinc sage]

it doesn't even transfer your level

[burnt moss]

Yup you lose almost everything when you change platforms

[zinc sage]

my pc runs it in 20-30 fps win 720p 50%res scale, with an optimizer config, while my xbox does at 60, and because of this shit i will keep playing on pc

atleast i didn't buy the game on xbox, imagine the disappointment of someone who got it not from gamepass

[flint flame]

dude what

[acoustic elk]

Anyone know how to share a twitch stream link? I wanna stream getting my ass kicked on nightmare mode master levels

[zinc sage]

nvm, its me being stupid after sleeping

[flint quiver]

Damn, i beat nightmare mode, i have slight PTSD

[flint flame]

#livestreams

[midnight sparrow]

Copy the link of your Twitch stream and post to #livestreams

[daring osprey]

hey all

[flint quiver]

Hello

[daring osprey]

there isnt kbm support for console is there

[flint quiver]

No idea

[daring osprey]

hm

[acoustic elk]

Thanks

[flint quiver]

[brittle quest]

No, and it's surprising why there isn't.

[daring osprey]

yeah it sucks

[brittle quest]

If I had to take a guess, it's probably because of BM balancing but it may also just be that devs forgot 😵‍💫

[burnt moss]

No

[burnt moss]

Just buy the skins you want

And play on Xbox if it’s higher quality than your pc

[zinc sage]

bruh

[flint quiver]

[azure oriole]

That shit look like the battlepass!

[balmy acorn]

That’s what I’m sayin

[zinc sage]

who the fuck cares if progress is not carried over + i have deluxe edition on pc

[flint quiver]

[zinc sage]

like quality... in doom... most of the time the screen is bloody mess what quality are you talking about

[burnt moss]

Do you have UN runs or something?

[burnt moss]

FPS makes a difference

[zinc sage]

what is UN runs

[burnt moss]

Ultra Nightmare

Besides that, what progress are you going to miss?

[zinc sage]

yeah, doom eternal is easier on ultra nightmare with less fps because game runs slower

[burnt moss]

I guess that’s one way to look at it

[zinc sage]

i have completed half of bloody gore nest master level challenges and i'm not doing it again

fuck that level

[flint quiver]

[burnt moss]

I’m in the middle of Mars Core Master Level and it’s awful

Taras Nabad is worst

[flint quiver]

True

I did it, but died at least 10 times

[burnt moss]

I die 5-10 times per encounter on these Master Levels

[flint quiver]

Facts

[burnt moss]

Last night I beat 2 encounters in like 2 hours of play

[flint quiver]

Nice

[burnt moss]

It’s freaking difficult

[flint quiver]

Very

[daring osprey]

bm 🤢

[azure oriole]

Kb+m support on console needs dev implementation but also support from the vendor side on per game basis (sony or microsoft).
It was discussed in some hugo stream, it's not only up to id

[brittle quest]

Much more plausible explanation

[azure oriole]

That's a little heavy, maybe drop the difficulty?

[azure oriole]

Battlemode balancing is a fair point too, hardly even if a kb+m player is against controller player

[burnt moss]

I already did UV though

[tepid wasp]

Chaingun shield

[azure oriole]

Whenever I (try to) quick swap with Combat Shotgun’s Sticky Bombs, I don’t seem to do it smoothly, or at all lol. Is this just an Xbox/Controller issue or is it a skill issue?

[tepid wasp]

I think it's framerate based, and consoles have a cap for framerate, but I'm not sure about that

You doing classic mode or something?

[azure oriole]

I’m on Series X, and I haven’t done anything with my video settings. Although I believe it is set to “Raytracing” instead of “Balanced”

Could that be it?

[tepid wasp]

maybe

[low zephyr]

is there any place i can obtain the doomo eternal ost?

[tepid wasp]

I'm not well versed in the nuances in DOOM's semantincs or whatever

[tepid wasp]

rip them from the game files Ig. tho idk if either file extractors can rip out music

[low zephyr]

im on console lol

[tepid wasp]

oh

oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sacred dirge]

Collectors edition

[sacred dirge]

You wouldn't steal a car

[low zephyr]

Who got it? 😭

[sacred dirge]

Me

[tepid wasp]

no, that's just a tape with ambient noise

[sacred dirge]

It's not even a tape

[tepid wasp]

k

[frank rivet]

Is it a glitch when I don’t get a secret when I walk into the question mark in cultist base?

[flint quiver]

anyone down for a doom eternal stream?

[icy ice]

There's a code on the tape to redeem the soundtrack. There are people on eBay reselling the tape for much less than a sealed collectors edition

[tepid wasp]

the soundtrack was still never made tho :C

[sacred dirge]

Your new name is sack of gert

K

Also don't be a chod. Stop pirating

[burnt moss]

No I don’t want to fight double marauders

[tepid wasp]

some ppl can't get the game in their country

[icy ice]

Is this the toxic slime double marauders?

My saving throw was used at that part for my UN run of SGN

[burnt moss]

It’s on Mars Core Master Level and I think I misremembered because I only see one marauder

But there are infinite cybers, hellknights, and snakes

[icy ice]

Ohhhhh yea they spawn one after another once you kill them.

[burnt moss]

Is there only 1 marauder though?

[icy ice]

There are two but the second one spawns in after you kill the first

I still need to do that ML on UN

The furthest I got was the caco fog room so far

[burnt moss]

No, that’s terrible

[azure oriole]

But I imagine you died a fair bit there too?
Maybe do UV until you can do it with minimal deaths, then NM.

[burnt moss]

I don’t remember UV being terrible actually. There’s more leeway on damage you can take

[azure oriole]

The second spawns in on a timer or some trigger. Take too long with the first one and you have 2.

P sure it's timed

[azure oriole]

Ok. Then embrace those deaths.

[burnt moss]

I can’t last that long. I’ve only gotten to the marauder like 3 times

[azure forum]

BFG thr first marauder and it makes the fight way less boring.

[azure oriole]

Fr

[burnt moss]

He shields it though right?

[azure oriole]

Or bfg both that arena is a mess for marauders due to friendly fire

[azure oriole]

Stun first

[azure forum]

That fight just like the donut fight in TN isn't difficult but annoying because of the other demons - in Mars core the hell knigts and cyber mancs

[sacred dirge]

Stag works too

Especially when they're close

[azure forum]

Yep, stun first and then quick swap to BFG to kill it. If I remember correctly, you should have 2 full BFG shots up to that point. Use one there and I usually use the second in the fog arena with the cacos and specters

[icy ice]

I didn't realize that encounter had a timed one. Guess I killed it fast enough

I wouldn't use a bfg there. You absolutely will need it for later in the level

[azure forum]

Nah, the only arena whwre you need one is at the end to clear the cyber Mancs and they already give you one there anyways.

[broken mauve]

I’m almost done with tag 1 on ultra violence 😎

[burnt moss]

I think I’m gonna give up on it

[ember void]

sry to be such a stupid stinky spoiler but ummm... the intern dude actually becomes a demon and is the final boss.

[hushed garden]

pyro how could you 😨😨

that's so mean :c !!!

[opal galleon]

Pyro....

[flint flame]

Put your super shotgun away Pyro

[opal galleon]

we don't need it out right now pyro..

[azure oriole]

Put your super hooker shotgun away

[azure oriole]

For which you get plenty of ammo later

[azure oriole]

And there's a respawning pickup in the arena before

[floral ore]

glad to see the exact same people are chatting in this server

[slow sigil]

[balmy acorn]

[wanton surge]

Can someone help me in battlemode for trophies?

My psn is BennyFrency2002

[azure oriole]

I wanna try playing DOOM but with calm music in the background. Like minecraft music or some classical from the 1600's

[frank junco]

I would say doom 64 its not classical but its not heavy metal

[azure oriole]

I meant doom eternal because this is the eternal-chat I thought that is obvious

[azure oriole]

What if all the music in doom is played inside the doomguys helmet and he composed them (evidence: The 3 guitars in the fortress of doom and his computer)

[slow sigil]

Then nothing would change

[azure oriole]

no i mean i think this is how it is

[dapper rivet]

I had trouble on that, i need help please

[wary badger]

i love doom so much

[brittle quest]

@jaunty vapor https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029419282129489980/1029480085478195200/Doom_Eternal_Screenshot_2022.10.11_-_15.42.55.36.png

Finally; perfection, made by Eggawott.

[onyx raptor]

Hey can I ask something about Eternal's OST here?

[jaunty vapor]

It's beautiful

[blazing thistle]

The cute kvintiloin killer

[brittle quest]

It's everything I wanted from this game. Might I dm you like the link to the mod?

[jaunty vapor]

That'd be fine

[blazing thistle]

is any speek Ukrainian or Russian ?

sorry for my bad english

[azure oriole]

why does this look better than the gold skin? (also pog)

This ultra nightmare runs are gonna make me go insane

dont do them

[azure oriole]

Honestly, not bad.
Dm me the link too

[azure oriole]

Ooohh no. I'm gonna finish these milestones.

[still brook]

I can tell you a glitch if you like to help with ultra night mare

My apologies for replying to the wrong msg

[still brook]

Meant to reply to this

[brittle quest]

Because it is better than the gold skin? What a redundant question.

[fringe crow]

Hey y'all, been ages since I've played Doom Eternal and have had an itch to go back to it. Are the 2 expansions worth it? If so, what should I expect and any tips?

[flint flame]

THE PINK PRAETOR! The pink praetor is real!!!

[opal galleon]

We can't get any higher we're in hell

[burnt moss]

Many demons. Much possessed. Very death.

[fringe crow]

Sold

[burnt moss]

It helped prepare me for master levels

[sudden edge]

How smart are the demons which we fight in the games?

For example it seems like pinkies are a sort of "animal" for the actual civilizations in Hell

but Barons, Hell Knights and Archviles all seem to have titles

Is it just like a name or are some of the demons not just savage monsters but actual smart, sentient creatures

[slow sigil]

it depends from demon by demon

[sudden edge]

Yeah, demonic troopers for example are probably capable of language and all

[slow sigil]

pinkies are literal animals, but archiviles are quite smart and are near the top oft he demon hierarchy

[sudden edge]

Confused about how the actual hierarchy was created tho

like, it requires a civilisation. So are there cities like Immora where

[slow sigil]

oh i have no clue, just pretty sure there are multiple mentions of it

[sudden edge]

the demons that we actually fight such as arachnotrons actually live in?

[slow sigil]

probably?

[sudden edge]

Or do they just wander Hell and the "hierarchy" is more of a food chain

[sudden edge]

I remember thinking about this before TAG2 and I kinda wish we saw more of that

[slow sigil]

same

hell lore is so damn interesting if they arent rushed

[sudden edge]

We saw how the actual architecture of hell was in Immora which was awesome but I wonder how the demons actually act in hell

[sudden edge]

Yeah like in 2016 Hell was so great

Eternal did some things like Nekravol great too

[slow sigil]

immora is i'm pretty sure a quite isolated city

[slow sigil]

true, loved that place. wished we had more of those biblical hellish structures

[sudden edge]

Yeah

I think they couldve also explained demons as being created "artifically"

not like in a lab, but by rituals by the intelligent life in Hell

We know that theres already ways to "demonically transform" life as shown with the Possessed and Marauders

and a ritual/temple map where there are huge chambers where demons are summoned would be awesome

[brittle quest]

We don't really get to see much, but hell is pretty complicated. We know they are smart enough to build structures like the argent tower, though honestly it's not defined that much.

Most hell structures are just built by immolated human corpses, ie just the lowest levels of demons. The more complicated ones are either built by entities being corrupted by demons or just other factions working with demons (like the argenta), so there's not much to define the general societal structure of hell.

My guess would be that most of hell is just uncharted barrenscape with creatures just roaming around, and the original people of hell were the only people who actually had a definite societal structure.

[sudden edge]

The Argent tower was built by Samuel Hayden right>

[brittle quest]

A bit of an error here, I meant Nekravol

[sudden edge]

and yeah, buildings such as the Gates in Exultia's Hell and the Necropolis

[sudden edge]

oh right I see
The buildings may have been built by demons but

we dont know if the demons which we fight architected them

[brittle quest]

Most demons are just primal brutes and even the intelligent ones like the archvile only display the most basic of human emotions, hence demons alone aren't intelligent enough to form a society.

[sudden edge]

Yeah

and ones like Barons or Hell knights, I think the title is just like a military ranking

[brittle quest]

They didn't, demons are stupid. It was built by sentinel slaves for the most part

[sudden edge]

it doesnt mean that they come from any sort of hierarchical background, just stronger enemies

[sudden edge]

But its unclear who created the designs for them and enslaved the sentinels

[brittle quest]

The sentinels weren't enslaved, the makyrs fooled them.

This is actually a pretty long type, so bear with me

[sudden edge]

we know of a few intelligent Hell affilitated people like Davoth, Hell Priests, the Maykrs and "The wretch who shall not be named" (not sure if its explained who he is)

[sudden edge]

Yeah, and I think its mentioned specifically that the maykrs made the deal with Davoth for Nekravol so we know that he was the mastermind

[brittle quest]

Long story condensed, the makyrs were dying as we see in the basegame, Samur snuck out the Father and hence they couldn't do the process by which they revitalise themselves. Which meant that they slowly suffered transfiguration and needed enormous amounts of energy to halt their transformation, it wasn't a cure; only a way to stop it for some time.

Thus they start communing with hell and also with their most powerful territory, Argenta. The Argenta kings wanted nothing to do with Hell, but the Argenta Priests (IE the hell priests as we know them now) were strongly sided with the makyrs. Two sides emerged, one in support of the makyrs and one in the opposition (Doomguy, King Novik and all of the remaining, living argenta, along with the night sentinels).

One day the night sentinels uncovered that hundreds of argenta slaves were secretly being hoarded to hell to build nekravol. King novik immediately ordered an assault of the night sentinels to uncover the truth and to kill hell.

The assault was actually winning and hell was loosing, so the priests goaded valen into betraying his own kin for the promise of the rebirth of his dead son. Long story even short, it went horribly and now almost all the argenta are dead with valen choosing exile in hell for his crimes. Doomguy, Valen (And presumably Novik) are the only argenta leaders alive.

[sudden edge]

Ahh right, and his dead son was the Icon of Sin right?

[brittle quest]

It wasn't Davoth, Davoth does play a role yes but he's only a whisper, not someone who can take form and make deals. There was another Leader of Hell at the time who had the ceromonial Dark Lord title. Dark Lord doesn't apply only to davoth.

[brittle quest]

Yes, and after his death Valen appears to be relieved.

[brittle quest]

Yeah, I'm also pretty sure that barons don't really command anything. They're just supreme in hell and are feared by many.

Not to mention how the names Baron of Hell and Hellknight are not given by the demons that live there, but rather just us.

[sudden edge]

so.. Valen is John Romero's father?

[sudden edge]

Ohh, its a title in this case. Thought "Dark Lord" was always Davoth

[sudden edge]

Assuming Doom 2 icon is same as eternal icon

[brittle quest]

Who knows, the answer to such a question can not be answered by me.

You might be interested in pinging m0nologue, he's the lore guy.

[sudden edge]

though, that probably isnt true since the betrayal was after the events of Doom 2 (Though its unsure if the Eternal universe is the classic universe, only that the slayer is the doomguy)

[brittle quest]

The lore master, as his name states.

[sudden edge]

lol yeah

still, Hell is the most interesting environment and backbone of Doom

so I want to see more about the demons environments and stuff in future Doom installments

I remember hearing about the Blood Swamps in Nekravol and wanted to see how they were like, and id delivered

(still my favorite level across 2016 and eternal)

[brittle quest]

It is, and for all it is expanded I still feel it's woefully underutilised for what it could be.

[sudden edge]

another thing I never understood

in 2016 to get to Hell we had to throw an accumulator into the argent tower and rip one out of the damn cyberdemons torso

but in Eternal VEGA can just teleport you there at will

and you can also get to Taras Nabad and Exultia just fine, but not Sentinel Prime and you go through Hebeth insteadf

never understood that

[brittle quest]

Remember that in 2016 we're using human tech, and in DE we're in access of a vessel that is already capabale of travelling and teleporting such distances, along with Vega helping us in every way.

[brittle quest]

That's pretty clearly explained, we simply don't know how to get to Sentinel Prime. That's why we need to find hebeth and to get an actual entrance to it.

[sudden edge]

ahh yeah fair

[sudden edge]

Isnt Sentinel Prime just on Argent D'Nur though? which I thought was a planet

[brittle quest]

It's.... complicated again. When hell won over, certain pieces of Argent D'nur fell into hell. Those are the pieces we actually travel onto in d16. Exultia I'm pretty sure is another teritory different to Argent D'nur.

We've never actually travelled onto Argent D'nur, only to other sentinel colonies and the parts that fell into hell.

You would also be much better helped by m0no in this regard, it's not explained very well.

[sudden edge]

Right, i see

gonna read the codex entries on the locaitons again, will ask him if it still makes no sense tho haha

[flint quiver]

[sudden edge]

thanks for the explanations, this game may not have lore as a priority but its still honestly pretty solid

[flint quiver]

True

[brittle quest]

I'd agree, and it'd be a lot more fun if it was explained in a more satiating way.

[flint quiver]

Also true

[brittle quest]

Rather than just to flip a codex, reading in what is supposed to be a fast paced game is horrible.

[flint quiver]

Yeah, kinda defeats the point in "fast-paced"

[sudden edge]

Yeah thats true

[flint quiver]

Thats why most just disregard it when they get a page

[burnt moss]

I keep one slot at 100% in case I feel like reading some time.

[flint quiver]

Same

[burnt moss]

Hasn’t happened yet, but when it does I’ll be ready

[flint quiver]

Infact im working on a 100% codex on a nightmare run and ive gotten really interested

[brittle quest]

If you have any doubts or just a general interest in lore, there's a lore guide in this channel's pins.

[flint quiver]

Nice

But i gotta say, the nightmare run was EXTREMELY difficult, i loved it and working on more nightmare runs for the U-nightmare run.

[burnt moss]

Yeah most recently Urdak destroyed me

[flint quiver]

True

[sand night]

Good morning slayers

[flint quiver]

[random vault]

interesting pfp

[green phoenix]

Daily reminder Gauss cannon > Ballista

[azure oriole]

(Doesn't actually say this daily)

[random vault]

so true teriyaki bone

[azure oriole]

Heh heh, yeah that's me! I'm the coolest!

[acoustic canyon]

is there any french player ? i am searching someone for helping me getting better

[azure oriole]

bfg or unmayker? 🤔

[alpine plaza]

bfg no doubt

[patent stream]

Unmaykr only because I don’t like how the bfg works

[vestal oracle]

big fucking gun

oops sorry i got a bit excited

[azure oriole]

OK, so, I'm late but I'd like to give some explanation.

The Doom Fortress essentially seems to have the ability to teleport anywhere within its range or to places it's already been before.

It operates on Maykr technology, so I believe this is why it can do this so easily.

Obviously, it has limits. It can't track everything down, it needs a Celestial Locator to find Ranak after all, and then Sentinel Prime is locked off from it, which I presume to be perhaps because of a seal akin to Immora and Urdak.

[sacred dirge]

Point and and shoot at a problem gameplay

[wanton surge]

Can someone help me with battlemode trophies? My psn is BennyFrency2002

[azure oriole]

have some more chicken have some more pie

it doesnt matter if its boiled or fried

[flint scarab]

how do you even beat UN

nightmare is already caused me (yes i have counted) 300 deaths

[slow sigil]

You don't die

[flint scarab]

dang i should try that

[sacred dirge]

If you're dying that much then you can't do it

It's just that simple. Some things in life just aren't for you. Better to just accept that

[azure oriole]

or just get better at the game, practice makes perfect

[burnt moss]

I’m probably going to give up on NM MLs for now

[sacred dirge]

Nah. Practice doesn't always mean you can do something. Talent skill matter also

[strange gale]

you act as if genetics are a serious factor in something as slow as doom eternal, but they're not

slow, as in you don't really need anything but good decision making to do well

one can have below average finger dexterity & reaction speed and still beat UN, because to achieve that one needs practically nothing but a well-built flowchart

this is not world-class athletics, so stop pretending it is

you just make yourself sound like a massive bozo

in fact NM is pretty fucking forgiving if said flowchart is in order

[azure oriole]

this guy is spitting facts

he is a sentinel so he's gotta be right

[strange gale]

talking up UN let alone NM as if they're some kind of pantheon for the top 0.001%, at best, tells me you don't have a very good understanding of the game or the developmental potential of the average person

[sacred dirge]

You should ping in the future if that was directed towards me. No it's not world class athletics like 99 percent of hobbies activities people do on this planet. However for some no matter the time they put in they will not be able to do it and will just sour their experience In a game trying to reach a random goal.

It's better to just play on the level you enjoy

[light pasture]

i need some help w the unmodded milestone im confused on how to really achieve it ?

cant perfect perfection

[burnt moss]

False. Aim is HUGE even if you have spawns and enemies and strats memorized.

[light pasture]

False, I beat it and my aim was iffy

[burnt moss]

You beat UN with bad aim?

[light pasture]

Mhm, I usally run precision bolt and ssg, and ibgotta say it's a big hit or miss when I'm using the Pbolt

Not terrible aim but honestly if u find a way to take her slow u should be able to even everything out

[flint quiver]

Just found out... The whiplash... Is a... Female character.

How didnt i know this before

[light pasture]

Common sense ?

[flint flame]

Dont... not again

[burnt moss]

Grab a bucket and a mop for that

[flint quiver]

Why Hugo... Why?

[light pasture]

Yall watch " Dahmer " ?

[midnight sparrow]

Something something had to make her look less feminine so she could be used in marketing. Hugo said that in I think the Noclip interview

Doesn't really matter though, the fact it even has a gender is odd since again it doesn't matter

[solid quiver]

[sudden edge]

Right, makes sense. I guess this also works as a kind of explanation for why we have to travel a bit in levels even though it's mainly just for gameplay

Still not explained how valen and the sentinels reached Immora lol

[azure oriole]

My personal opinion is that Immora is protected by a seal, just like Urdak, and this seal was broken when Doomguy got inside through the Gate of Divum.

By breaking that seal it allowed Valen and the Sentinel army to get into Immora.

[flint flame]

Cope mald seethe

Literally doesn’t change a thing in the game

[azure oriole]

They should make Doomgirl real.

[strange gale]

it's fine, you don't talk to women other than your mother anyway

[midnight sparrow]

Guess what? The Spider Mastermind is female to

[azure oriole]

Damn her

[sudden edge]

I thought maybe Immoras location was hidden

So after travelling to the only known slipgate

The praetor suit sent the coordinates to the sentinels and they could directly teleport

[sudden edge]

Honestly even though it really doesn't matter I couldn't tell it was meant to be female

Female demons like the summoner are cool cause cool design

[azure oriole]

Hey guys! I just started playing Doom Eternal today, but I've never really played first-person shooters before and I'm not that great. Does anyone have any advice? I'm not that far in I don't think, and I've died multiple times even though I'm on the easiest difficulty. I want to eventually work my way up to Nightmare or Ultra Nightmare, but I doubt that's possible for me.

[sudden edge]

But whiplash being female, ik part of it was cause they had to censor it but I think they could've made that a bit more apparent

I still love the whiplashs design either way so I'm indifferent lol

[sudden edge]

I started on hurt me plenty and died maybe 40 times, and eventually beat ultra nightmare in the campaign and dlcs. The best thing about eternal is you will get better to a much greater extent than you think

It takes practice, but there are a few things that new players change that seems to help a lot

One thing I see is a lot of players back away from all demons since further away = less damage

But try to stay at more of a mid range that varies for each demon

Don't be too aggressive but not too cowardly. For example, go too far from a hell knight and you won't deal much damage but get too close and you will get hit

It takes some practice but enemy positioning is one of the main things to learn. Always be in a position where you don't take damage you could avoid but don't just run as you may get hit

[azure forum]

My best advice would be to do the first couple of runs "blind" without asking for help and jsut learning the basics. From there, once you feel like you have gotten a good understanding of the game, you can work on polishing and finding what are the best weapons/mods and such. You can definitely climb your way up to Nightmare or even UN.

[sudden edge]

Apart form that, mechanically mastering the flame belch, ice bomb and AoE such as blood punch will give you a LOT of resources and always keep you topped up

Make sure to use all of your equipment when you're not near full health to get back up, I kept forgetting about ice bomb and flame belch my first playthrough but they're incredibly useful

[azure oriole]

Hm, alright. I guess I should ask one other thing before I head back into it, my aim is pretty bad (naturally since i barely play shooters), and my sensitivity is pretty high (my mousepad is a circle that's probably 6-8 inches in diameter lol), is that gonna cause any real issues for me?

[sudden edge]

Doom is surprisingly not too reliant on aim

Some evasive demons are tough if your aim isn't great but a lot are just big punching bags

[patent stream]

You will want to lower that sense if you cant hit stuff

[azure oriole]

I really hate those snake ones

[sudden edge]

Focus more on firing fast (like getting your crosshair just over the demon and firing) instead of being as accurate and possible, that will be improved later

Reaction time has saved me more health than a good shot

[azure oriole]

My mousepad is so painfully small that if I lower it I'll have to constantly lift and reposition my mouse, is the problem.

Alright, that's all I wanted to ask. I'll update you guys on how I do with this first playthrough lol

Thanks!

[flint quiver]

olivia peirce

[azure oriole]

Lift and reposition is quite common, just need to do it fast in fps games.
But yeah get a good sized mousepad definitely

But if you set your sens so high you can do 360 turn without lifting the mouse then you will lose precision for sure

I have my mouse dpi at around 800 and ingame sens at 6

[azure oriole]

The Imperatrix is female as well, so even if Pierce weren't a part of the Mastermind it'd be female.

One of the Aranea Imperatrix's names is literally "the Atorcoppe Queen".

[azure oriole]

My sensitivity is to where i can do about 160 without lifting my mouse, but nothing more than that. That's just because of how small my mousepad is, though.

My DPI is at 1600, I don't know what my in-game sensitivity is at.

Wait, no, my DPI is 800 as well

I accidentally pushed the button that increases sensitivity

[midnight sparrow]

What about her

[midnight sparrow]

The Imperatrix is another name for the 2016 Mastermind right?

[azure oriole]

My mouse sensitivity is 70, but the "sensitivity scaling" is 3, I don't know what sensitivity scaling is

[azure oriole]

Sounds similar to mine then yeah

[azure oriole]

70? Are you sure?
Mine is at 6.0 (six)

Sens scaling at default value (it's a factor that determines how much movement in game is caused by mouse movement)

So if you ask is doubling the sensitivity or sens scaling practically the same thing, yes

I adjust sens scaling only if I want a different sens for x and y axis

[azure oriole]

I'll just send a screenshot of the settings because I don't think I understand-

Ok

Could I do it in DMs? I can't send attachments here.

[azure oriole]

Yep go ahead (btw you can send pictures in #screenshots )

Correction: I have sens scaling at 6.0 and sensitivity (both x and y) at 45.
Mixed up the terms

[vivid cliff]

ok am i doing it wrong or is the dark lord fight just ... bad?

he waits like literally 40 seconds before doing the green flash attack and idk how else to bait it

[frank junco]

took forever, even with the sentinel armour

[slow sigil]

Being in sword range, still takes him a while

And yeah he's pretty terrible

[wary badger]

doom guy should get magic powers in the next doom game

[slow sigil]

He literally just lost them

[vivid cliff]

It's a bit sad how hard they fumbled the last third of TAG 2

You have this crazy cutscene with the sentinels and music buildup and then near silence while the father whispers to you and you don't get an arena fight for a few minutes. And then the boss fight is annoying

[wispy valve]

My gosh this game is so great

Decided to replay it again, it’s so awesome

[wary badger]

in a dream limbo where dr samur developed into a lovecraft beast who could enter dreams and drag demons from hell to the limbo

[slow sigil]

Oh no all of tag2 is just fumbled

[dapper rivet]

Same, i hate whiplashes too

destroyer blade gets rid of those dumb snakes

[wary badger]

both balista weapon mods send the whiplashes to ohio but the arbalest mod only staggers them

[azure oriole]

the fight is bad

[dapper rivet]

If you have incremental blade, can the weakest blade insta kill whiplashes?

i think stagger actually

[azure oriole]

2 charges staggers and 3 kills

[wary badger]

no

[dapper rivet]

i see

[wary badger]

but i think the second load up will stagger it

[wary badger]

pretty decent

[dapper rivet]

it feels so satisfying chopping enemies in half with destroyer blade. Is that weird?

[wary badger]

but the hoard of super heavys are giving me ptsd

[azure oriole]

dblade damage goes 1 charge 800, 2 charges 1600 and 3 charges 2400

[wary badger]

no and yes

[azure oriole]

whiplash has 2000 health

[wary badger]

the second charge will bring down a whiplashes health by 2400 to 800

[azure oriole]

wut?

[wary badger]

also whats the dmg of a close range ssg shot

[dapper rivet]

What mod do you use for ballista?
Arbalest = Red
Destroyer Blade = Blue

[slow sigil]

1600

[wary badger]

Mmmmm

[slow sigil]

But whiplashes are too agile and thin so
Better to pb rocket or pb ballista them then

[slow sigil]

Dblade my beloved

[dapper rivet]

This is going to be a interesting poll

[dapper rivet]

same here. even tho u use arbalest

[wary badger]

a slight altitude change when a whiplash is on crawl the d blade will kill it

[azure oriole]

just for the record, the damage sheet for each weapon and health of each enemy is pinned to this channel

[dapper rivet]

so it is

well i gtg, bye guys

[azure oriole]

this is incorrect
2 charges does 1600 damage and whiplash has 2000 health, stagger threshold at 500

[wary badger]

well i used a calculator and i dont know dmg input i shoot anything until it dies

[azure oriole]

oookay... what do you calculate if you do not know damage inputs or enemy health values?
Not that it matters but a little curious

[wary badger]

uhhh minus the dmg and demon health

[lethal fable]

Dark lord is pain in the ass

[azure oriole]

literally just a marauder fight but diffrent

you can do it my guy I believe in you

[wary badger]

i recommend ssg hammer ssg balista ssg then use turret chaingun its a good combo for dark lord

[slow sigil]

Why not use just 1 combo

[flint quiver]

SpiderMastermind was confirmed a female for me in doom (2016)

[wary badger]

idk

[wary badger]

"for me"

[flint quiver]

Yes, when Olivia Peirce turned into the SpiderMastermind i knew that it was female

[slow sigil]

Not really how it works

But the OG spider masterminds where confirmed being female somewhere

[flint quiver]

Yeah also whiplash is female

I thought it identified as "pain in the ass"

And the Dark Lord wasn't all that diffucult

[wary badger]

get vegad

[slow sigil]

??? Uhm, ok i'll try that again

[slow sigil]

They are demons, who knows what their intelligence is

[wary badger]

i question lady lucis bio

[flint quiver]

...

[slow sigil]

Well, it isnt. Tedious at most

[flint quiver]

[wary badger]

Doom - On The Hunt remake by Andrew Hulshult is so good

[flint quiver]

Underrated song?

[wary badger]

doom 1 song

[flint quiver]

Ooooo

Another easy boss for me was the icon

The hardest was the seraphim

[wary badger]

everybody knows it hard

i hate the spirit pain elemental

[flint quiver]

OMG facts

Ive started an U-nightmare run

[wary badger]

good luck

[flint quiver]

Thanks

[azure oriole]

Imperatrix + Olivia = Mastermind

The Mastermind is the Imperatrix having gained a body thanks to Olivia.

[flint quiver]

Correct

[lethal fable]

I know

Did this in fight

[wary badger]

whats "imperatrix" tell me what it is

[lethal fable]

Died alot, but got em

[wary badger]

what do you do when davoth summons the super heavy horde

[lethal fable]

Hammer

[wary badger]

use bfg

[lethal fable]

Bruh

No bfg ammo?

[wary badger]

😔

[lethal fable]

Yeah, that's fucked up

[flint quiver]

I use mainly chaingun, the rocket launcher, ssg, hammer, plasmagun, and the assult rifle micro missiles mod

[slow sigil]

I just dblade them all and then pb the tyrant

[wary badger]

okay

[slow sigil]

Or hammer them then get ut back via zombies

[wary badger]

also lady luci i question your bio

[flint quiver]

The armored baron is a pain because every other demon makes you miss that opportunity to delete the armor instantly

[slow sigil]

I also have many questions

[wary badger]

about what

[slow sigil]

Depends

[wary badger]

just tell me

[flint quiver]

Doom (1993) us been confirmed to be the hardest doom ever made by far

[wary badger]

well i finished it via practicing in uv

this was the turning point where doom classic wasnt hard for me

[brittle quest]

It's a cat holding a floir.

[wary badger]

also i might have a succesfull run in doom 2 the other runs i ran out of ammo

also uh doom guy in doom eternal has big eye brows

[flint quiver]

Yeah, thick eyebrows

[azure oriole]

The Aranea Imperatrix was the Dark Lord of the Fourth Age (during Doom 2016's events). It's the main antagonist of 2016.

[slow sigil]

I wished we got to know more about the dark lords

[azure oriole]

It's the demon mainly manipulating Olivia Pierce and convincing her to, with Ranak, start the Cultist Division. It's a psionic, incorporeal demon, and it seeks to gain physical form through the body of an "infidel" - in this case, Olivia.

[azure oriole]

Same, really wish they'd give us more on them and the Archdemons

[slow sigil]

We have no idea if the archdemons are actually a thing ingame

Just a concept so far right

[azure oriole]

Yeah, basically. They're in the art book but that's it.

Personally, as far as I'm concerned they're canon since they don't contradict anything and just give us more lore.

I like thinking back on Doom's various enemies and speculating as to if any of them were Archdemons.

[slow sigil]

I think so far not really

I really wished the archdemons would drop in tag

[azure oriole]

I like to think the Mother Demon and Resurrector were Archdemons

The Maledict may well have been Dark Lord of the Third Age too.

[slow sigil]

Ok i forgot about that one

I was only thinking about doom 1, 2, and newdoom

[azure oriole]

I kinda thought the dark lord boss was lame i wish we got a cooler looking archdemon.

[slow sigil]

I mean looks arent entirely what was wrong with davoth lol

[azure oriole]

Visually I like Davoth looks great.

Presentation-wise the boss fight is perfect and everything I wanted.

It's just the gameplay that falls a bit flat.

[burnt moss]

But the spider mastermind is massive. Where did her body get used in its construction?

[green phoenix]

I mean tbf the dlc was rushed ik the devs said he was supposed to have a red dragon form

[azure oriole]

Her body is twisted and malformed into the Mastermind through demonic bullshit.

It happens in seconds, as we see in the boss intro. She's pulled under the surface of Hell and arises as the Mastermind.

[burnt moss]

Ok but it multiplies her mass? Lack of a body held it back, but it isn’t limited by the laws of physics?

[green phoenix]

Wish we got a spider mastermind demon mini boss like the tyrant

Arachnatron was cool tho

[azure oriole]

Hell energy doesn't care about the laws of physics.

[sudden edge]

I still dont understand after stuff like Olivia becoming walking mechanical spider in 5 seconds and demons like the mancubus and stuff

[azure oriole]

Logically Titans shouldn't even be able to, like, exist. But it does!

[sudden edge]

the Intern is still like "Wow, we didnt know Hell had its own technology"

[azure oriole]

I can answer any questions you have!

[sudden edge]

Well then did the UAC assume arachnotrons just found walking spider legs?

I thought after the events of atleast 2016 (if its in a different universe from classic doom)

that theyd assume that Hell had their own tech

Plus they wouldve known about the Cyberdemon.. unless Olivia made the cyberdemon and it wasnt cybernetic before they brought it to Earth

[azure oriole]

What the Intern meant isn't that they thought Hell had its own technology- moreso, Hell's technology is very rudimentary and primitive, hence why they rely on Cultist UAC engineering.
Immoran technology isn't Hell technology; it's the progenitor of Maykr engineering, and Immoran tech isn't allowed to be used by wider Hell citizens.

Immora and its resources are sealed off from the rest of Hell by default.

[sudden edge]

Ah right, he meant more the advanced technology found in the cities

[azure oriole]

So Immora having such advanced tech was very surprising to them when normal Hell tech is rudimentary. Yeah

[sudden edge]

Still wonder about the origin of stuff like the Crucible, and the nature of "magic"

[slender wigeon]

I'm new but it's awesome to read what you know. How long have you been this deep into the lore?

[sudden edge]

I guess its just explained that every soul has some sort of "magic" that they could harvest into Argent

and some demons can use it like the Archvile and summoner.

[azure oriole]

Since Eternal's release, maybe before! I'm very passionate about Doom's story and lore, which I find to be better than many assume.

I don't think it'd be a stretch to say I've become the most knowledgable person when it comes to this topic, ever since my release of the Doom lore guide. I like it.

[sudden edge]

Oh yeah m0n0logue, another q

[slender wigeon]

Can you link the guide? I'd love to read it! I've played since I was a kid in the 90's but would love to learn more.

[sudden edge]

Is it confirmed anywhere that the Eternal universe is the Doom 1 - 64 universe?

we know that the Slayer is the classic doomguy but I'm not sure if events like the invasion of Earth in DOOM 2 occuerd in the Eternal/2016 universe

[azure oriole]

Eternal's universe is definitively not Doom 1-64's universe.

Eternal's Earth is separate from Doom 1-2-64's Earth.

[azure oriole]

It's in the pins!!

[sudden edge]

Right, so the Slayer was transported into the Eternal universe some time after killing the Mother Demon and going to Hell. How long exactly did he fight there, cause Ive heard numbers in the thousands thrown around but he didnt have the Divinity machine back then so idk how that's possible.

No Praetor suit either, so if he survived that long in Hell that takes some serious skill

[green phoenix]

I mean the explanation is he was basically a divine being before even the divinity machine

[azure oriole]

So, the Crucible is an Argenta weapon. Most Argenta weapons are powered by Wraith Energy, being a source of energy emitted from the Elemental Wraiths. Wraith Energy is a completely separate substance from Hell's Essence.
Hell's Essence is a substance Hell creates by extracting and distilling the souls of mortals. (Note, that means more than just humans. Argenta and other lifeforms can be made into Essence too.)
Argent Energy is a colloquial term that refers to any Wraith Energy that has been tampered with, distilled, or purified. Multiple forms of it are seen across the series, including 2016's Argent (purified Wraith Energy), Eternal's Argent (Wraith Energy + Essence), and Argent-synthesis.

[azure oriole]

The "many eons" Doomguy spends in Hell are from after he becomes the Slayer with the Divinity Machine.

Realistically Doomguy most likely only spent a few months in Hell before meeting the Argenta, I think.

If you look to Doom 3, it offers some potential explanation as to what Doomguy was up to before he met the Argenta while he was in Hell, but that's not confirmed.

[sudden edge]

Ohh right, I see. I know that the blue sentinel energy is from the wraits but never understood the red energy (which is sometimes Argent and sometimes just "hell energy" like in the Demonic crucible)

[sudden edge]

Few months in damn HELL without a praetor suit is still pretty insane tho haha

[azure oriole]

Red energy is essentially just "activated" Wraith energy.

Oh yeah no Doomguy was fucking nuts. Even before he was the Slayer he kind of went insane after 64 and just wanted to wreck shit.

[sudden edge]

Right, I see. So the Well is an example of where the Wraith energy is activated?

I kinda skimmed the codex in that level so I dont fully remember

[azure oriole]

Kind of. In Hell lore, Wells are areas where Hell's Essence coalesces. Demons then transport the Essence to where it needs to go to be, well, spread.
By the time 2016 happens, old Wells are obsolete thanks to Nekravol's industrialized Essence-manufacturing. The Well we see in 2016 is a Wraith Energy plant. It was constructed on an absorbed Argent D'Nur region. It siphons Wraith Energy from the Wraiths, and it is then transported to Nekravol to be combined with the Essence.

Its power also kept the 2016 portal open. That was kind of just circumstantial - Doomguy never truly shut down the Well in 2016, since the demons have a great supply of Wraiths on Argent D'Nur itself. He just kind of interrupted its process by killing the Wraiths they had, so that they'd lose access to Mars.

[sudden edge]

right, I see.

Wonder if they ever did anything with the World Spear

Final question, sorry for the confused gaps in my knowledge lol

What exactly is Hell? A planet like Earth, a dimension or just any place Hellified

[azure oriole]

Well, AFAIK the implication is the demons were able to grab Wraiths from the World Spear thanks to their alliance with the Maykrs.

[sudden edge]

Hebeth is in Mars but referred to as Hell. Argent D'Nur seems to be a planet where the World Spear, Taras Nabad and Sentinel Prime were on but its also called Hell in 2016

[azure oriole]

Hell itself is a primordial dimension - the first one, to be exact.

[sudden edge]

So is the Well part of Argent D'Nur and Hebeth actually in that dimension?

[azure oriole]

That's because Hell is capable of absorbing worlds into itself.

[sudden edge]

Ohh I see, now that makes more sense

[azure oriole]

Hell is an inherently colonialist realm - Demons conquer other lands, and thanks to the spread of Hellgrowth, are capable of pulling those lands into Hell itself. We see this in Doom 1993, where Deimos is transported to Hell.

In 2016, the Argent D'Nur we explore is a part of the planet Argent D'Nur that was absorbed and turned into the Well.

Similarly, the Titan's Realm and Necropolis from 2016 are also implied to originate from another realm; perhaps even Doomguy's original Earth.

It's implied that the vast majority of Hell as we know it in the modern games isn't even "original" but actually absorbed places from other realms.

The only parts of Hell we know for a fact to have always been there is the region surrounding Nekravol, and Immora.

[sudden edge]

Ahh, I see. Kinda wanna see more of the more creative Hell landscapes such as the Blood Swamps in future games

[azure oriole]

Yeah, the Blood Swamps were awesome.

[quartz dust]

I love full auto one cycle maraude

[dark ruin]

yo what's good

just bought eternal

[burnt moss]

So it could have just taken her arm, or something

[azure oriole]

Perhaps, but if you'll notice the Mastermind's legs seem to be made of her exoskeleton.

[slow sigil]

or is her exoskeleton made out of legs?

[shadow vessel]

its a stretchy exoskeleton

it just stretched out cause she got bigger

[quartz dust]

Enjoy

Try to think of the combat less as funny shoot man game and more like a fighting game with different combos

Very fun

[slender wigeon]

even gotta think like that for certain map traversing 🤣

[quartz dust]

Sort of

[dark ruin]

hey uh quick question how do i get the fallen angel skin?

i have the maykr skin but the fallen angel is locked

[quartz dust]

Idk lol

[slender wigeon]

I think you need to level up in ancient gods

[flint flame]

play a few levels in the campaign/ do weekly challenges

[dark ruin]

Alr thanks

[quartz dust]

Taras nabad master level good

[burnt moss]

No. Bad.

[quartz dust]

Nuh uh

I will say it overly long

But that opening arena goes hard as shit

[azure oriole]

The opening arena is good

[frank rivet]

Is there a way to disable crystal upgrades because armor for blood feels like a downgrade

[quartz dust]

?

[azure oriole]

How? Also no, you can't

[quartz dust]

[frank rivet]

Dang

[strange gale]

i guess it's a "downgrade" in that it'll eat up armor you could've used to heal?

but armor is so abundant anyway that that's never actually a relevant downside

[quartz dust]

Exactly

Just like dont fuckin

[azure oriole]

Not to mention it makes recharging blood punch piss easy

[quartz dust]

Dont get hit

[strange gale]

yea but armor for blood only works at full armor

[azure oriole]

Lack of which when you'd need it can lead to loss of life

[quartz dust]

I love blood poonch

[flint quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-dancing-car-meme-gif-17542560

[flint quiver]

Same, it's dissapointing that the regular punch barely does anything anymore.

[strange gale]

[azure oriole]

Plus armor pools stay on ground for 20 seconds.
Flame belch recharges in 12 (or faster with eq fiend) and meathook recharges in 4.
So even if you saved armor pools you'll be able to create more way faster than the old ones expire.

[quartz dust]

Heheheha

[azure oriole]

Point being: you want to generate more armor every 4 or 12 seconds anyway instead of relying on that pool you made almost 20 seconds ago.

[static goblet]

why do demons fight eachother when they are not in combat with the player? Quite funny to watch lol

[quartz dust]

Callback to infighting in old doom games

[azure oriole]

"Some demons hate each other as much as they hate you"

[quartz dust]

[static goblet]

ahh ok 😂

[static goblet]

ohhh yeah

[azure oriole]

Quote from Doom manual 1993

[flint quiver]

I need some tips, ive started a U-Nightmare run. Any advice?

[quartz dust]

Dont die

[azure oriole]

Watch a walkthrough to get some pointers

[quartz dust]

Prioritize cacodemons and cyber mancubus

Those mfs can instakill you pretty far into a run

[flint quiver]

Yup

[quartz dust]

Also beware the arachnotron in the train station right before you get pb

[azure oriole]

Honestly the question "any tips for un" is so general and vague it's impossible to answer in any meaningful way.

[flint quiver]

O

[quartz dust]

Cope

[flint quiver]

And what's pb tomato?

[quartz dust]

Precision bolt, sniper shot thing for assault rifle

[azure oriole]

But one allround advice Ig is: do nightmare near deathless first

[flint quiver]

Oh yeah

[quartz dust]

Right before you get that and the grenade theres an arachnotron placed rather devilishly

[flint quiver]

Ive got pb already

Beaten that level

Im after the point when you get the celestial locator

er*

[quartz dust]

G

Ye just not die

[flint quiver]

Ill reset if i have to, but ill learn at the very least

[quartz dust]

Try booting up some other levels in a normal nightmare save first to get accustomed if you want

[burnt moss]

It’s too much.

[quartz dust]

Nah

It's a longer arena, but its awesome

[burnt moss]

No I get it. I’ve been saved a couple times by a pile of armor that got dropped a minute ago.

[burnt moss]

Not just long. Too many of same demon same time.

[quartz dust]

Nah

2 tyrants is beefy, but not insurmountable

2 barons demand good movement

Arena good

[crimson yarrow]

https://youtu.be/fg5aDM22gRo

[sacred dirge]

Hahahahah the fuck

[burnt moss]

I might be thinking of when you return to it

[azure oriole]

The opening arena of taras ml is the best part of the level and one of my favs overall, if not the fav

The rest of taras ml can take a flying fuck to a jet engine

Okay not all of it is bad but eh

[slow sigil]

underground small arena after sewers is cool

[azure oriole]

Probably the often claustrophobic level design is what bothers me

It works with the base level but less with ml encounters

[azure oriole]

I don't like it much exactly because it's such a crammed space

[green phoenix]

Which one are you guys most excited for between dead space remake and Callisto protocol ?

[burnt moss]

So apparently moving my Xbox to a different state necessitated closing Doom. In the middle of MC ML

[azure oriole]

That's a tough one... maybe callisto because it's new

[green phoenix]

Callisto feels refreshing but dead space remake has that nostalgia going for it. Also there is supposed to be newer mechanics in it.

[azure oriole]

Yeah I am stoked for the remake.
On the other hand I'm fully expecting EA to somehow fuck it up

[green phoenix]

Hopefully they don’t.

[azure oriole]

Fun fact: EA closed down the studio that developed og dead space

Anyway doomy turnal yis

[azure oriole]

Yeah thinking of it I like all the outdoor fights (barring the last double marauder maybe) but dislike to hate the indoor ones

Oh yeah taras ml has not one but two double marauder fights.
That alone makes it bad, lols

[burnt moss]

I’m retreating to UV

[azure oriole]

In comparison world spear ml has only single marauder fights.
That alone makes it best level ever

[azure oriole]

Sounds like a good idea

[scenic egret]

No best config for Switch Gyro controla right?

Ive' been experimenting with Sshotgun/Shield Upgrade Chaingun in Nightmare

I can aim efficiently well but i feel i can make It a lot better in switch

[burnt moss]

Wym

[sacred dirge]

No one knows

[burnt moss]

But seriously I die about once every other HARD arena on UV. In the past hour I’ve caught up to 3 days worth of NM play on the same master level.

On UV

[azure oriole]

try to figure out what's the difference between UV and NM. Do you tank damage but can survive in UV but can't in NM? etc

anyway for master levels it's not a bad idea to aim for deathless or near deathless first, then up the difficulty

[burnt moss]

Yeah basically. But aim and timing seem to be why; I keep missing a lot, and sometimes I swap back and forth without firing

[azure oriole]

Hello #doom-eternal wasn't so eternal

[slow sigil]

do you hold fire while swapping?

[burnt moss]

Yes

[azure oriole]

that's good to know, so work on getting shots on target faster

and probably damage avoidance via movement too

[burnt moss]

Meathook response issues put a serious kink in my movement. How tf am I missing a giant Mancubus with a meathook?

[azure oriole]

meathook has worked fine for a good bit imo

Sometimes my meathook has trouble grabbing a pain elemental even though I'm directly below it

[burnt moss]

For one thing it’s picky. On tyrants and arachnos I often have to sit for a whole second raking the target with my reticle before it recognizes it

[azure oriole]

pain elemental's are know to be iffy for meathook, apparently have only a single node

[azure oriole]

that doesn't sound right, you sure the thing just isn't on cooldown?

[burnt moss]

Demons that are on fire also have this problem for me. It’s like the flames “hide” the hitbox

[burnt moss]

Hmm no I’m not entirely sure. I switched my reticle to dot which makes cooldowns more of a guessing game

[azure oriole]

I still often find meathook on cooldown when I'd need it

managing the cooldown is a big part of meathook movement "mastery"

[strange gale]

plenty of mh nodes aren't placed anywhere near center mass (i.e. the logical place to put them)

pains and spiders are especially horrendous

https://youtu.be/nCqH-I7PfNs

every enemy having a single node certainly doesn't help

[azure oriole]

all of them have a single node only? I thought that was exclusive to pain elementals

well shit

that video is from Apr 2021 though so not necessarily fully accurate anymore?

[strange gale]

nodes haven't really been changed

you still have to mod the game for mh to feel anywhere near consistent

[azure oriole]

fair enough, well I'm off to hook my meat if you catch my drift...

[strange gale]

you know how meathooking is supposed to line you up for a fully connecting shot? not on imps (and lots of other shit), bozo

if you try to fire ssg point blank after hooking to an imp, it'll straight up just miss because the node is already placed pretty high up + disconnecting forces a jump

[azure oriole]

I saw on the Xbox store that you can buy cosmetic packs from the “Season Series”. What were these?

[burnt moss]

The current event allows you to earn cosmetics from certain series’s. If you missed some events in the past but want the cosmetics associated with those events, you can purchase them.

[azure oriole]

oh that's what it is, was wondering I felt like I always had to purposefully aim downwards there

[burnt moss]

That’s part of why I was saying my aim is bad. It’s still bad, but not when shooting meathooked imps I guess

[burnt moss]

Beat Mars Core Master Level UV again. A couple arenas really got me stuck. The final arena only took 3 tries, once I pulled out the crucible haha.

[alpine plaza]

Guys i started tag2 on ultra nightmare, just completed world spear, any tips?

Almost died three times, but besides that i think it went flawlessly

[azure oriole]

Idk, just keep your guard up as the first arena of reclaimed earth is tough

[vivid cliff]

Everybody gangsta until the dark lord shield bashes

[burnt moss]

Everyone gangsta until the Meathook goes wet noodle

[alpine plaza]

I managed to beat reclaimed earth once whitout dying so i'm pretty confident i can do it

I'm worried about immora, gotta practice more i guess

[vivid cliff]

bro i rlly recorded immora and dark lord, last night, said in the recording "im gonna kick his a**"

and then died 4 times to the last phase because he NEVER FLASHES GREEN

bro i had 5 lives this boss fight is just not fair with the rng

[strange gale]

[vivid cliff]

idk what they do in the next game if they even do it. but they better improve the boss fights

[wanton hazel]

is ancient gods worth

[vivid cliff]

YES

[wanton hazel]

i wanted to get it on my ps5 for 30 bucks but i wanna know if it's shared between the other accounts on there

[burnt moss]

Shared how?

[wanton hazel]

cus i wanted to buy the dlc for my account, but want my sibling to play it as well on his separate account

[vivid cliff]

Doom hunter boss- prettymuch a super heavy with more health for the bossfight. so he fits in normal arenas
Marauder- kinda the same, but with extra controversy
Gladiator- 2016 cyberdemon (when he forces u in a single area) + Marauder
Khan Makyr- pushover
Final sin- this is just me but i hate fights where the boss is basically a wall

dlc boss spoilers
||Maligog boxes- moving turrets
Seraphim- actually difficult but feels a bit cheap at times
dark lord- just bad design.||

[alpine plaza]

it worked for me in xbox

theres only one account with gamepass which allows every user to play those games and it works the same with dlc's

dont know if its the same on ps5

[foggy schooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khRlZXXa5sA

for sale on Ebay

[viral hemlock]

The worst sort of pain is when you are about to beat a boss after 10000 cycles of dumping rockets into its face, getting health and ammo from the nearby zombies and the game crashes right when its about to die to the last rocket

Seriously that just happened to me

[flint flame]

Master levels do this consistently

[viral hemlock]

Idk if its because i have a shit pc and I have to use cheat engine to increase my fps

[flint flame]

I can with a decent pc, the game crashes during master levels

[wary badger]

i know doom lore

[viral hemlock]

Like lowspecgamer is the only reason i can play doom eternal at all

[foggy schooner]

Lowspecgamer is a friend of mine

[viral hemlock]

Say hi to him for me if ur not trolling

[wary badger]

doom lore

[foggy schooner]

I will do. and also to Nate Gentile. another friend

[viral hemlock]

Doomguy from doom1, doom2, doom64, doom3, doom2016beats the shit out of demons for killing his bunny

[wary badger]

yes

[foggy schooner]

here you are Low Spec Gamer in the Nate Gentile Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ZoyNSlZk0

And here you are the interview to Nate in my channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkKpiwtbXA

[foggy schooner]

Where are you from ? (Brasil, maybe?)

[viral hemlock]

Yes

[foggy schooner]

entao que carallo estamos a facer falando en ingles?

[viral hemlock]

Sla é servidor de ingles agente vai levar ban

[foggy schooner]

ah...

ok

My mother was born in Brasil (in Bahia)

I have family there

greetings from Spain

bye

[azure forum]

We need a portuguese channel for sure.

[viral hemlock]

Yes

[foggy schooner]

well... there is a spanish channel... I suposse nobody will be angry if we wrote in portugues there...😅

[azure forum]

Lol people have tried and they usually get ignored.

I think maybe it comes down to not having mods

[foggy schooner]

Spanish and Portugues are very similar.

I live in "Galicia". Just touching Portugal.

[burnt moss]

Idk how accounts work. I only have one account on my Xbox. I believe once it’s purchased and downloaded to your psn that every account will be able to play the game on that console. That’s a guess though.

[flint flame]

You should make a YouTube channel. You could be Midnight but better

[flint flame]

Not quite

[midnight sparrow]

Doom 3 Doomguy isn’t the same as the rest, Doom 1, 2, 64, 2016, and Eternal however are the same guy

[azure oriole]

I’m new hi hi hi hi wassup

[signal dirge]

hello

[azure oriole]

tryna beat master level super gore nest

who’s idea was it to lock me into a confined space with two tyrants and a doom hunter

[wary badger]

well my old yt channel failed to ohio of the shadow realm

[winged mortar]

What happened to Samuel Hayden after the first mission of the ancient gods

[flint flame]

he returned to his original body.

[winged mortar]

Makes sense

[azure oriole]

Maybe it's just nervous or drank too much

I was fighting the seraphim and my game just crashed

rip

I really don’t like master level super gore nest

why are there just so many tyrants

how much health does a possessed hellknight have btw

[wary badger]

check the pins

[azure oriole]

ah alr

[azure oriole]

damn tag1 is only 3 levels

it seems like its extremely painful to do an UN run tho

[azure oriole]

Less painful than campaign.
Sure tag is harder but it's only 3 levels and 3 great levels of almost pure combat versus the catatonia inducing early game of the campaign

[azure oriole]

Oh of course, id rather go through un tag1 100 times than 50 times of the same stupid 4 levels of the campaign

early game campaign is the most monotonous thing ever

[tiny brook]

Hello all, I'm new here and slowly working my way through the Doom games. I play on PS4 and getting the plat for Doom 2 took me almost a year on and off

Anyways, more to the topic, I'm sorry if this has been brought up a million times before, but do we have a definitive answer for why the Slayer was found in the OG suit rather than the one from 64?

[pallid forge]

That was a question I had too. A theory of mine is that 64 was a branching timeline, for lack of a better term, but that theory has it's flaws

[azure oriole]

That's a good question and the answer likely is: another plothole

Another one is: doomguy remained in hell and based on eternal's story neither maykrs nor sentinels knew anything of demons or had been to hell before doomguy came along.

So how did doomguy end up in sentinel prime in the first place?

To be discovered outside the castle walls

Seriously the events between 64 and 2016 and also between 2016 and eternal would need a game or book of their own

I don't mind things left unexplained as such but the connecting threads need to be consistent

As in not a fan of 2016 ending with slayer getting teleported to god knows where, next thing you know he's floating outside earth in a giant space rock castle

Why oh why it couldn't just have been a UAC spaceship?

[hushed garden]

because fortress of doom

epic mancave

[azure oriole]

Mancave schmancave, I want logic dammit

Also hi @hushed garden

[hushed garden]

hey asiju

[hushed garden]

I dunno my guess is he went in another portal to Argenta and found the ship

[slow sigil]

Cause it looker cooler and would be more obvious i guess

[azure oriole]

Sure the moment was better the way it was done (I audibly went "no fucking way! Holy shit!" there) but it's true it's less consistent with the established storyline

[slow sigil]

Yes

[azure oriole]

Possibly but it would be less of a stretch, imo, to think he fought his way back to a UAC facility from wherever he was sent to, stole a spaceship and left for earth.
All the upgrade stuff you find in the fortress could just as well be found inside some UAC research vessel or such

Besides gameplay stuff exists for gameplay reasons, that's fine, not every pickup location needs to make story sense

Then again Ig we could just as well assume slayer was teleported to argent d'nur in the end of 2016

Hayden wanted to prevent slayer from stopping him but also already knew he'd need slayer later

[fallen mango]

Is there any way to use keyboard and mouse on console or is it really a no go?

[ocean gale]

Hello

[fallen mango]

Hello there

[brittle quest]

No, no there isn't.

[brittle quest]

Co-incidence, or a very interesting plotline that is horribly vague and needs to be expanded. Also I absolutely agree with your ending remark, D16's final ending was amazing for what it was, and it needed to be expanded as well.

[red geyser]

Hey guys just a question when you finish at Ultra Violence can you start Ultra Nightmare with a New Game+ or does it completely reset?

[tepid wasp]

It's a completely new save starting from scratch

[tepid wasp]

though if u unlock the console you can basically do a new game + if u use the commande `give all

[burnt moss]

In previous conversation, I think we established he found the Fortress in hell, where Hayden sent him.

[wispy valve]

Ngl I’m wishing eternal had multiplayer like Quake/Doom ‘16

[inner leaf]

same

I wonder how insane it would be with all the movement mechanics added in eternal

[wispy valve]

Man of culture 👍🏽

[wispy valve]

My gosh it’d probably a constant seizure warning but would make some supremely great highlight reels

[slow sigil]

Bit too insane i would guess

[inner leaf]

yeah most likely

It would be really funny to grapple on people with the SSG though lmao

I am kinda sad there's not any coop though

[slow sigil]

Yeah coop is the only way i could truelly see eternal MP working

And even then not with current balance so

[inner leaf]

hopefully the next game has it

[slow sigil]

Yeah, or no MP at all