doom-eternal

[slow sigil]

for every single one? yeah bit much

[burnt moss]

Well it’s a range. Like the Rocket Arena took me probably 5 tries but the big arena halfway through took like 10. Mostly not used to how slow swapping and cooldowns are early game

Oh and no meathook throws off my groove

[solar rover]

How do I post pictures?

I just got the platinum for doom eternal!

[burnt moss]

Post in screenshots and link it

[shell radish]

You can upgrade it

[steel musk]

Are they going to fix the rewards with the mega event? Mine keep disappearing

[tropic mesa]

how do i get maykr skin for slayer?

[umbral bobcat]

yeah same here

it’s my archvile stuff that just unexists for no reason

[vivid cliff]

i have just discovered i can quickscope faster than i thought

[magic marsh]

You have to buy the ancient gods part 1

[tropic mesa]

but i did already buy it

[magic marsh]

Oh

[tropic mesa]

a week ago

[magic marsh]

Then I do not know

[tropic mesa]

daymn

[magic marsh]

I thought it was a little reward for buying it, because when I bought part 1, I got it

That’s pretty strange

[tropic mesa]

OH

i bought the dlc on the other account

so maybe, if i will..

[timber drum]

Where’s the computer in the fortress?

[magic marsh]

You know the room with the toys and the weapons

[timber drum]

No

I don’t know that room

[magic marsh]

Well it’s in there

[timber drum]

Ima try to find it

[magic marsh]

The computer is in there

It’s before the ripatorium

[timber drum]

Found it

[magic marsh]

Yea but pro tip

The computer that plays the game is the old looking computer

Not the monitor with the slayer symbol on it

[timber drum]

Ik

[simple umbra]

cacademon my beloved

[half moat]

did they fixed reward system in mega event

[violet dome]

Gladiator always likes killing my UN runs

[steel musk]

nope

[vivid cliff]

just beat gladiator nightmare with only 1 death, my best so far

[shell radish]

I finished the whole thing no 64 slayer :((

[half moat]

idk but im ok with santa skin

[timber drum]

I BEATED THE BOSS

[azure oriole]

well I was in the middle of doing this, after an hour system hard crashed and lost the recording completely

so fuck that, I guess, and what's more seems my computer is still unstable even after I replaced the motherboard

[limpid pollen]

Woah

[azure forum]

That sucks man. Campaign takes some good hours unless you're a mad man speedrunner

I was thinking about doing UN run as well and record it, but I retired after the last UN run. Takes too long. Also, I actually never did 100% campaign UN. Some of those challenges are BS especially the ones at the end

[empty drum]

Anyone else playing their wii rn

[dire chasm]

On the final part of ancient gods part 2 let's goo

[warm juniper]

i hope they do soon its so annoying

i really want to use the le manc podium

and level up the agent vile stuff

[stone imp]

Should i buy eternal i really liked doom 2016 and on a ps4 pro

[brittle quest]

PC master-race 😔

[chrome summit]

Is the Allfather on the throne in the Holt?

[slow sigil]

which throne?

[flint flame]

The throne?

[slow sigil]

also, allfather? dont you mean just The Father/Vegafather?

[chrome summit]

Yes

[flint flame]

He’s a bit…incorporeal

[chrome summit]

I may have missed many moments, but how is Vega connected with the Father?

[slow sigil]

vega is the father

[chrome summit]

It is a spoiler?

For TAG2

I completed TAG1 only

[azure oriole]

Yeah, I mean the save is still usable but I'd have to restart for the video series.
Which I could if I knew what caused the crash.
I left some stress tests running overnight but the tests have passed before so...

[burnt moss]

I never upgrade weapons before I’ve maxed the SSG

[slow sigil]

it was confirmed in tag1

"hinted" at in basegame

[azure oriole]

Honestly at times I feel like throwing the entire thing out the window, time and money waster

[flint flame]

“Am I…the father, Dr. Hayden” in the Urdak cutscene in base game

[burnt moss]

That’s a personal question lol

[burnt moss]

First world problems. Imagine being able to stream your gameplay

[azure oriole]

Can't you do it on xbox?

[burnt moss]

After a cursory search, there’s a select few who can, but I don’t have the option where the articles say I’m supposed to

[chrome summit]

damn, i miss a lot of things

[azure oriole]

Well the xbox is a pc in disguise so...

[woeful brook]

Hey

[burnt moss]

But 10x cheaper

[chrome summit]

But, thank u

[burnt moss]

But yeah if there’s a way to stream on Xbox I’d love to know it

[azure oriole]

I meant it by definition doesn't work like it should, lel

[burnt moss]

Oh haha

Yeah I’m still getting in tune with how Xbox thinks and works

[shell radish]

I meant you can upgrade weapon swap

[woeful brook]

Dr.Hayden: your DNA tests are back and you are the father

[slow sigil]

you arent upgrading the weapon then though, thats a suit upgrade

[burnt moss]

Oh yeah I got faster dasher instead, definitely worth it

[shell radish]

yeah

[burnt moss]

He didn’t say anything incorrect

[woeful brook]

If spectre carcasses exists we would be fucked

[stone imp]

Should i buy doom eternal?
I played doom 2016 on my ps4 and loved it

[slow sigil]

definitely

[warm juniper]

yes

[woeful brook]

Doom eternal

[slow sigil]

once it hits sale get the deluxe edition, definitely worth it

[warm juniper]

its better then 2016

[flint flame]

That would be funny

[warm juniper]

most people think eternal is better

[woeful brook]

@flint flame I'm gonna break your kneecaps

[warm juniper]

2016 was good but just not for me

[chrome summit]

Me the appearance of being stupid when important dialogues go past my ears that I don’t pay attention to, but the Doom itself is generally confused, like, Vega was hooked up to the body of the Father, and he gained the mind of the Father, do I understand correctly?

[flint flame]

Vega was hooked up to the maykr system where he then realized, wait I created this

[warm juniper]

classic doom lore vs modern doom lore

[woeful brook]

@flint flame oh that's why he asked

[azure oriole]

Wut?

[woeful brook]

If he was the father?

[flint flame]

Vega was the father, Samuel Hayden (the Seraphim) forcibly removed his conscience and used him for the Vega core

[chrome summit]

я запутался, Вега и есть Отец, но он не помнил, что он Отец?

[woeful brook]

@chrome summit Guys he is explaining in doom language

[timid plank]

Bro the big arena fight in reclaimed earth (the one with 2 doom hunters, possessed manc, Archie, tyrant etc) feels just like the one right after getting the sentinel hammer

[warm juniper]

tag 2 is kinda

[woeful brook]

@warm juniper mid

[warm juniper]

less fun then tag 1

[timid plank]

Definitely

[woeful brook]

(Sorry I thought it was funny to say that)

[timid plank]

It’s not even cause it’s easier, it just feels same-y and boring

Tag 1 felt fresh

[woeful brook]

I never played TAG should i?

[warm juniper]

doom lore: doom guy kills god to fight the devil

[timid plank]

I wanna say maybe immora is better but from what I heard, it’s not lol

[woeful brook]

Guys I need an answer

[timid plank]

Absolutely

[warm juniper]

yes both of them

[azure oriole]

42

[chrome summit]

all this is written in the codex? OTherwise I didn’t read everything

[woeful brook]

Why do i have to read to understand the game

[chrome summit]

+++

[woeful brook]

(I know what "The Father" Means by the way)

[warm juniper]

blood swamps best level in the game

[dire chasm]

Just beat the ancient gods part 2 let's goo

[woeful brook]

@warm juniper if there Is purple lakes in that level then no

Or swimming in general

[warm juniper]

do i get break blast or desperate punch

tell me now

[void saffron]

I've got to say, almost every demon added in the tags is so annoying

Especially turrets and blood maykr

[warm juniper]

yes but its not a bad thing

[woeful brook]

@warm juniper lolwut

[void saffron]

The bloods have the most annoying attacks

[warm juniper]

true

and they barely ever do the attack u can kill him in

[void saffron]

The little aoe pool is so stupid

[chrome summit]

Where can I find out all this? I have not heard this in the game (i didn't playbin TAG2)

[void saffron]

Yea and when they do I always get hit away by something

[warm juniper]

its in tag1

[void saffron]

Notably in horde

[warm juniper]

why is deag ranak the horde mode priest

or whatever his name is

[azure forum]

Both are equally bad and have their niche moments. I personally use break blast just to keep another health indicator available, and the blood punch comes in handy sometimes.

[obsidian oak]

Hey, isn't it better to buy "Buy DOOM Eternal Year One Pass" than Ancient gods 1 & 2 separately?

[dire chasm]

I just got the deluxe edition when it was on sale during summer

[azure oriole]

Health indicator?

[flint flame]

Check pinned messages

[flint flame]

I believe it’s more expensive to buy each game separately as opposed to getting the pass

[flint flame]

Those are like the best additions ngl

[obsidian oak]

yeah thanks for confirming :)

[flint flame]

Blood maykr is peak design imo

It’s a better executed marauder

[woeful brook]

Marauder better

[flint flame]

Marauders just a road block, literally unfun to fight at a high level

[chrome summit]

I just wanted to play the game 😭

[woeful brook]

So is the blood makyr my guy

[flint flame]

Play the game

[woeful brook]

You have stare at him all day and when your focused on another enemy he does it

[flint flame]

You can bait him out easier than the marauder. Also note that the marauders ai is prone to breaking

[dire chasm]

Lore is basically as I have heard demon kill bunny bunny owner destroys hell

[chrome summit]

and in which chapter does Hayden talk about what he did to Vega?

[woeful brook]

@flint flame do you actually like fighting that piece of shit

[flint flame]

Codex for holt

[woeful brook]

Understandable opinion have a nice day

[chrome summit]

and as I understand it, Hayden made a "clone" of the dark lord? (doomguy)

[flint flame]

No

[chrome summit]

Aaaaugh

[flint flame]

The dark lord was behind everything, he gave suggestions to Hayden to do what he did

And the Khan Maykr

[woeful brook]

Also did Hayden fight the doom slayer (samur boss fight at holt)

[dire chasm]

I have one question at the end of ancient gods 2 why do they lock doomguy up?

[flint flame]

That was indeed Samuel Hayden

[woeful brook]

@dire chasm because when he killed the dark lord his power got the best of him and they locked him incase on emergency

[azure forum]

It makes a loud noise when the rune activates at 80health

[woeful brook]

Also did anyone had that glitch where they logged in the game and their event rewards are gone

[chrome summit]

But, Hayden makes Doomguy, right?

https://youtu.be/MzTjgpRF3wU 35:50 so, Hayden makes Doomguy

35:50 timecode

[void saffron]

Zero master is such a god

He is the best I would say

[woeful brook]

I pretty sure he meant create his POWER

[flint flame]

Sorta, that was a divinity machine thing that he was indeed responsible for

[woeful brook]

Even though doomguy is TOP tier and powerful he is not a God he is a human

There is no clue in the game that Hayden "Created him"

[chrome summit]

Ahh, like he made a new one, stronger one, not in the literal sense

[void saffron]

A human but one strong one

Samuel/seraphim but him in that maykr thing that enchanced his strength greatly right?

[woeful brook]

@void saffron ok go on..

[void saffron]

What

I'm not the most familiar with the eternal lore

I like the og lore, base invade rabbit dead kill everything

[unborn hill]

Oh i don't try ancient god yet , i see Somewhere that the slayer was created by dark lord but i'm not sure about this

Is that true ?

[flint flame]

The dark lord imbued the slayer with his power yes

[unborn hill]

There is many references to Daisy ( the rabbit ) in eternal

[woeful brook]

@flint flame WAIT that true?

[void saffron]

Yes I'm aware

[woeful brook]

Do I have to know tag lore though

[void saffron]

With or without lore doom will never get old

[unborn hill]

Doom is eternal

[woeful brook]

So are the events that keep reusing

[unborn hill]

( doom films are really Bad )

[woeful brook]

Thank God we only had one

[unborn hill]

No 2

The other one is doom annihilation

[void saffron]

I wouldn't mind if they made one with the slayer

[chrome summit]

OMG, THANK YOU, I didn't read the codex about the seraphim, and that's why I was very confused, but now everything fell into place! Thank you!

[void saffron]

Anyone else waiting for the new bioshock show though?

[unborn hill]

Yeah a Real doom film with the Real slayer who just kill and don't talk to anyone just killing demons

[woeful brook]

Guys I'm gonna play the super gore nest master level on ultra nightmare any tips?

[unborn hill]

By netflix ? If they don't ruin BioShock YES

[woeful brook]

Honestly why make a doom film

[void saffron]

Yea so it's like a 40/60 of it being good

[unborn hill]

I never tried UN master level yet so idk

[woeful brook]

@flint flame any tips you have?

[chrome summit]

It would be cool if the doomguy turned out to be Blaskowitz, and it would be a former American captain who killed the bad Germans, and many years later, demons

[fossil terrace]

abuse chaungun shield lol

[void saffron]

Crazy

[woeful brook]

OK imma play now BYE bye I'll tell you how it went out

[shadow vessel]

Does the santa slayer give you the 64 marine or is it still glitched?

[woeful brook]

@fossil terrace I do that already

[chrome summit]

@flint flame Thank u again

[fossil terrace]

from what i've heard, no it's still glitched

[woeful brook]

Bye bye

[chrome summit]

Bye

[woeful brook]

I accidentally died by a baron of hell

But that's fine I'll just turn on saving throw

Attemp 2

[void saffron]

What's its cool down? I never took the time to search

[woeful brook]

I think you only use it once I dont know

I had no idea it had a cooldown

[void saffron]

Oh idk

[fossil terrace]

once a life

[woeful brook]

Bad news I don't have saving throw apparently

Guess I don't die

[edgy sentinel]

Does anyone have tips for controller on Doom

[azure forum]

Switch to a 6 or even 4 Weapon wheel size.

[void saffron]

Why?

And do the rest of the weapons just go into the others in the wheel?

[fossil terrace]

master movement on them, movement is and will always be more important than dps skill

can't die if you don't get hit

[void saffron]

I'm on Xbox and I think I'm getting pretty good at movement

Ass at dodging for now though, thinking about changing boost to something else for better access

[azure forum]

Right, you bind other weapons to the controller. That way you don't have to open the WW every time and it makes your swaps better

[edgy sentinel]

How do you get good with the meathook

[void saffron]

I just have the full wheel, I got used to going to the right weapon

Quick switching kinda sucks on controller though

[fossil terrace]

practice

and watch a tutorial if you don't understand kt

[edgy sentinel]

You just gotta have good muscle memory that's it I'm pretty good

[azure forum]

If you use the weapon wheel it does. Other than that, it does not .

[void saffron]

Yea

[fossil terrace]

oh also turn the weapon wheel delay down to lowest

[void saffron]

Sometimes it opens though and messes my hits up

Oh that's a setting??

[azure forum]

100-120 is the best timeout in my opinion

[void saffron]

Good to know when I get home

[edgy sentinel]

I turned it down low not the lowest yet tho

[void saffron]

I play on max sensitivity

100, 100 with 0 smoothing

[edgy sentinel]

Should I turn aim assist off?

[void saffron]

No

[edgy sentinel]

What does smoothing do?

[void saffron]

It is pretty helpful for hitting crit spots

[fossil terrace]

learning how to quickswap through weapon wheel alone is imo, more important because it won't lead to reliance on bumper swaps and more important, enforce muscle memory with the wheel

[void saffron]

I have rb for wheel

[edgy sentinel]

Same

[woeful brook]

I did not die so far

[void saffron]

LB flame, RB ww, RS paunch, LS nade but gonna change to boost, the rest is pretty basic

[woeful brook]

@fossil terrace I like to quickswap by pressing r1 more

[azure forum]

The wheel is inconsistent no matter how you master it.

[void saffron]

Yea

[valid wren]

sensitivity its a preference thing. you dont need the highest sens to aim 'better' in fact, for most people, having mid to low sens actually makes their aim better, you clearly dont know how to give advice

[void saffron]

Yes ik

And I'm saying I play max

[edgy sentinel]

Should I try a master level on ultra violence then nightmare?

[woeful brook]

@valid wren I still suck lol

[void saffron]

Not saying if you don't play max you suck ass

I just play with high sense in games I play

I like being able to turn in an instant

[valid wren]

Ah stupid me i read it as play as instead of i play on, sorry, its night and ive had a stressful day

[woeful brook]

@valid wren POV: TAG 2

[valid wren]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-tech-tips-ltt-lttstore-youtube-gif-19356047

[woeful brook]

That is confusing to look at

[burnt moss]

You’re ignoring the powers endowed upon him through the Divinity Machine

[woeful brook]

No One:

Absolutely No One:

Voldeneye Scrolling up for some reason:

[burnt moss]

Rodark or myself can give you an excellent template for binds

[woeful brook]

@burnt moss ooh ooh give me tips too

[void saffron]

I think I'm ok with mine once I change boost to LS and find something good for nade

[woeful brook]

Me playing super gore master level on UN

Me play joke, me go pp in your coke

[burnt moss]

Because I was absent during that time. Wanted to see if someone replied to my earlier comment about not being able to stream on Xbox

[burnt moss]

About what?

[void saffron]

For xbox you just download twitch then get streaming it's pretty easy

[burnt moss]

What about streaming to discord?

[void saffron]

Xbox is currently working on adding discord to Xbox anyways

[woeful brook]

Bruh

[burnt moss]

Thanks. The articles made it seem like it was currently available but only to select few

[burnt moss]

What

[void saffron]

Yes it's in early stages but the alpha/beta (idk) only has voice for now

[shadow vessel]

the event keeps removing and giving back my items is this happening to anyone else

[woeful brook]

The comment you made about binds

Also im am currently playing super gore nest master level on ultra nightmare am I actually good

[void saffron]

Yes that's the 4th time you have mentioned it

[burnt moss]

You didn’t like my comment about binds?

[woeful brook]

Thank you for that glask I appreciated it giving me confidence

@burnt moss the opposite homie

[azure oriole]

I am so fucking pissed. Game decided to crash just as I completed the last secret encounter in holt on nightmare (second secret encounter with blood maykr and marauder) and it did not even count. I also hate the fucking blood maykrs but since that was replaying lvl none of my progress was ofc saved so I have to play the whole lvl again. And that was my first time eternal crashed and ofc it had to be that moment. 🤨 And yes I found holt probably in general as lvl hardest in the entire game so it’s a reason why it pisses me off even more.

[woeful brook]

F in the chat for respect Fam

[void saffron]

That's a rip

[woeful brook]

F

[burnt moss]

Oh you want me to tell you some good binds?

[woeful brook]

YAY

[waxen field]

That happens if a save corrupts, it uses a backup from the level’s start

[woeful brook]

@burnt moss yes by the way

[waxen field]

Also how is that the first time it crashed? On one patch it crashed 10+ times in my run.

[woeful brook]

@waxen field goddamn even more depressing for you

[azure forum]

Finally I bought my steam deck. Very late considering I placed the pre-order months ago. Now let's see when it comes!

[azure oriole]

It usually doesn’t crash for me,. I don’t usually rage but this made me lose my shit 😐

[burnt moss]

I have flame, grenade, melee, and chainsaw on face buttons. Jump is L button. SSG is on left stick. Dash is on right stick. And I currently have HC, Bal, Rocket, and Equipment Swap on Dpad

[waxen field]

It was I think the patch before 5.0, not sure if it was that exact one. Though yea even though I wouldn’t call Eternal a polished game it used to be much worse.

Just be glad there are backups are you’d be starting over the whole dlc.

Anyways my recommendation is to drop it to the lowest difficulty to get back to where you crashed.
That’s what I did when this occurred for me in Final Sin when fighting icon.

[void saffron]

Tf

[waxen field]

I’m not sure if there’s a tag 1 nightmare milestone and/or trophy though.

[burnt moss]

You don’t like it?

[void saffron]

What's tag2 un reward? I know tag1 is gold maykr

[void saffron]

No.

To me atleast it makes no sense

[woeful brook]

D Pad for me is uncomfortable

[void saffron]

Very

[woeful brook]

I rather play on my play style

[burnt moss]

Which part?

[burnt moss]

I agreed until I got the Xbox controller. Love that Dpad

[woeful brook]

@burnt moss XBOX NANI!

[void saffron]

Everything

[woeful brook]

Thats why IT did not make sence

[waxen field]

If your doing brawler mode you can remove the weapon wheel on console without loosing anything.

Though it’s a pretty unforgiving challenge.

[woeful brook]

I play on ps4

[strange gale]

"unforgiving" 💀

[waxen field]

Well I’m sorry I don’t hate myself enough to do un

[void saffron]

I can barely get past big arenas in tag1 on uv lmao

[woeful brook]

What is brawler mode

I though that was a difficulty made up by a player

[burnt moss]

PS4 has same buttons as what I said

[waxen field]

A custom ruleset by Mayo just look it up brawler mode for doom Eternal

[woeful brook]

I do not have L on my controller 😢

@waxen field that is for doom 2016 my guy

[waxen field]

No the vid is for Eternal

[strange gale]

there is a brawler ruleset for both games.

a fuckin joke in both games as well, it absolutely doesn't promote more aggressive play

[waxen field]

For 2016 I just don’t upgrade anything cause the game is super easy

[waxen field]

Still harder than abusing op mods and cyro. I guess you could just ban everything but the combat shotgun if ya want.

That’d make it hard

[void saffron]

Modded or no

[woeful brook]

I just killed on my ultra nightmare super gore nest master level run by a TENTACLE

[void saffron]

Because with stickys and auto it isn't as bad

[waxen field]

Don’t need mods though there is one that doesn’t force you to play with the ruleset

[woeful brook]

You can never understand my hate for tentacles

[void saffron]

I don't mind them

My reflexes are good enough where I can precision bolt them before they hit

L

[woeful brook]

L vega

[waxen field]

The tentacles aren’t too bad, I’m kinda salty alot of them were removed from TAG 1

[fair mango]

I end up not remembering where they are and then falling out of my chair because they jumpscare me

[woeful brook]

@fair mango that happened to me relatable

[fair mango]

You could probably tell I’m not the greatest of players

[void saffron]

I got jump scared by the bridge popping out in cultists base lmao

[woeful brook]

You play on hurt me plenty IhaevaTajpo

[void saffron]

I forgot it popped out and my headset volume was on max

[woeful brook]

I hate tentacles for life

[fair mango]

I completed nightmare on both 2016 and eternal

[woeful brook]

"You could probably tell I'm not the most greatest of players"

-IhaevATajpo 2022

[void saffron]

Can't wait until 1 day where an official doom that isn't ported or just classic comes to vr

[fair mango]

The only thing that makes me good is the mods I progressively unlock

[void saffron]

But until then I have so much fun with vr

And I don't even have a lot of the really good games since no pc

[woeful brook]

All the mods and arsenal are the best

[fair mango]

I couldn’t play without double jump and air manoeuvrability rune for my life

[woeful brook]

Although full auto is really mid

[waxen field]

Air control is the best rune

[woeful brook]

@fair mango Pretty sure everyone is bad at that part

[void saffron]

Mainly just for the ammo eating

[fair mango]

Correct take

[void saffron]

Without that movement sucks

[shell radish]

ur forced to in battlemode 💀

[woeful brook]

@void saffron it's all fun and games until you haven't unlocked the shell AMMO mastery

[void saffron]

Yea

[waxen field]

Followed by equipment rune and then maybe dazed or blood fueled

[fair mango]

Blood fuelled is a cool rune

[woeful brook]

@waxen field I use savagery, blood fueled and air control

[fair mango]

Handy for snapping a glory kill and quickly disengaging

[waxen field]

Not very good if you are good at keeping high speed since it’s capped

[woeful brook]

@waxen field It's good for bunny hopping and boosts

It's for everyone

[fair mango]

I’m one of the bottom feeders ok, it works for me

[waxen field]

Idk that’s what bloodshot said about blood fueled and he knows more about the game than I

[woeful brook]

Bruh I saw a Hugo Martin reacts to doom TAG 2 speed runs and bloodshot was in the call

[waxen field]

He’s a resident speedy boi

[waxen field]

Same

[strange gale]

you still have access to some busted-ass shit, even with brawler X rules. sure, you don't have SSG there, but you just replace all the cool combos you'd otherwise have with micromissile mastery spam.

[waxen field]

Well yea but you can only ban so much till the point it becomes stupid

[fair mango]

Just do a play through with the pistol at this point

[strange gale]

every brawler version allows faster dasher & air control, so kiting everything to death is still incredibly easy.

[waxen field]

Then you can ban that if you find it too easy

[strange gale]

the point is that i find brawler to be a dogshit idea.

[waxen field]

I’m still trash at dodging lol

[fair mango]

Doom eternal but you unbind your ASD keys and you can only play with full auto and microwave beam

[azure oriole]

The most accurate description of Doom Eternal is "a $60 music list with a free game." I completely agree

[waxen field]

Make your own ruleset idk

[strange gale]

no

[warm juniper]

thing everyone likes abt doom is that you can play in your own way and brawler mode limits that

[strange gale]

see i just don't like these "modes" that are marketed as total game changers, when they aren't

[fair mango]

I wanna die 40 times by trying to melee a zombie

[strange gale]

you still do the same shit, you just see different models on your screen

[fair mango]

Ultra nightmare limits me from doing this

[warm juniper]

ok go for it then

[fair mango]

I am go sob

[waxen field]

Didn’t say it was it’s just a nice mixup. No one forced you to play it.

I just wanted to forced myself to play differently for once

[strange gale]

forgot that looking at anything with a critical eye in this server leads to dismissal and "yea but you're not forced to do XYZ". this is going in circles.

[fair mango]

Yeah but nobody is forcing you to complain, so please shut up and move on thanks tsk tsk tsk

(Irony if you couldn’t figure)

[strange gale]

forgive me for trying to talk about something that isn't the same 3 jokes, or painfully obvious year 1 things.

[fair mango]

No we continue with the same 3 jokes because they never get old right guys

[burnt moss]

It’s called L1

[fair mango]

Also considering how much elitism there is in doom eternal, I have a damn hard time believing that a doom community is as wholesome and loving as people claim it is

From my previous knowledge with gaming communities the more elitism there is space for the more toxicity that follows

[woeful brook]

@burnt moss how is L1 good at jumping at all

[gray rivet]

Frees up the face buttons to perform other actions while jumping

[woeful brook]

I'll try

[burnt moss]

Mostly frees up your thumbs so you can steer while you jump instead of one or the other

[woeful brook]

I tried to change the jump to L1 one time and I just keep forgetting how to jump

[burnt moss]

Every change will have that sort of problem. I usually give any change a full level or two of use before I throw it out.

[woeful brook]

I changed it

Also do you mind me telling my controls now to see if anything is wrong with it

[burnt moss]

Sure

[woeful brook]

R2- Fire weapon
R1 - Switch weapon/weapon wheel
Triangle - chainsaw
Square - Flame belch
Circle -Switch equipment launcher
X - Launch grenade
R3 - Melee/Glory Kill

L2 - Weapon mod
L1 - JUMP
Up Arrow - Switch mod
Left arrow - SSG
Down arrow - Mission information
Crucible - Right arrow
L3 - Dash

[burnt moss]

Personally I hate pressing a joystick while moving it so I put dash on R3. My SSG is on L3 because, like jump and dash, it’s part of my movement scheme

[woeful brook]

It's easier to move more with the L3 scheme and to free your right thumb for a comfortable gameplay👍

[burnt moss]

Pressing a joystick while holding it forward is uncomfortable

[woeful brook]

That is what you do

[burnt moss]

I do recommend putting SSG on a stick

So you can meathook without moving a thumb off the joystick

Since gk gives you a few iframes you can afford to move your thumb for that

[woeful brook]

Then what button should i change for melee?

[sacred dirge]

It is. Classic doom is one of the best gaming communities out there. New doom is usually where the toxic is found. Mainly because of eternal and it's successful ad campaign attracted alot of younger new gamers to the franchise

[burnt moss]

I’m torn. I get that you like having grenade and grenade swap on the right face buttons but I like Dpad to have swaps and other less frequent actions because you have to remove your thumb from the movement to press Dpad.

I have equipment swap on Dpad and melee on a right face button

[woeful brook]

I don't use left pad for SSG often or at all in combat it just there

Frankly I only use it for weapon mod switches

[burnt moss]

Do you not use meathook much?

[void saffron]

I'm pretty sure it's ok to use the meat hook and ssg without needing its own bind

[woeful brook]

"left pad FOR ssg"

I don't use it to switch SSG I just use weapon wheel

[void saffron]

Yea dpad to get a weapon like that is uncomfortable

[woeful brook]

For some reason when I quickswap I jump while doing it, so I think it'll impact my weapon swap skill

[burnt moss]

Why do you jump

[woeful brook]

@burnt moss Probably because I practice most times with jumping being in it

It's good for speed and comfort anyways

[burnt moss]

How does your SSG bind impact your ability to jump while quickswapping?

[sacred dirge]

Sounds like you have Jump bind in trigger?

Bumper sorry

L1

[waxen field]

R2- Fire weapon
R1 - Switch weapon/weapon wheel
Square - chainsaw
Triangle - Flame belch
Left Arrow -Switch equipment launcher
L1 - Launch grenade
R3 - Melee/Glory Kill
L2 - Weapon mod
X - JUMP
Up Arrow - Switch mod
Down arrow - Mission information
Crucible - Right arrow
L3 - Lol
Right Arrow - crucible/hammer

[sacred dirge]

That's very close to default

[waxen field]

It is default

[sacred dirge]

Still doesn't explain swap issues

[waxen field]

What issues?

[pine crow]

Odd yeah, try resetting them, perhaps that will work

[sacred dirge]

Gandalf

[waxen field]

?

[sacred dirge]

Did you random post binds with no relevance to the discussion we were having

[waxen field]

I just saw binds tbh
I jumped in just now, I thought people were just posting their binds

I mainly posted it cause my muscle memory makes it hard to switch and I’m too lazy to relearn new binds.

[pine crow]

In all honesty, posting binds for console isn't really necessary, as you often don't deviate much from the default when it comes to using a controller

[waxen field]

Yea some do though circle dash isn’t the most intuitive for example, but I’m used to it due to soulborne and Sekiro

[pine crow]

Ahh yes, it's funny and sometimes obnoxious when previous games you've played use certain keybinds that you want to carry over in another game

[waxen field]

Muscle memory is a curse as much as it is a blessing

[pine crow]

You're not alone with the laziness btw, I still have ballista on 6, which is quite far to reach on the keyboard

[waxen field]

I don’t think I could do default keyboard binds without getting carpel tunnel

[pine crow]

It gets annoying if you use the defaults, I believe 8 is supposed to be the chaingun

[mossy lotus]

give it up for day 5 of the santa slayer still being in the D64 skins place! Day 5!

[pine crow]

7* I mean

[shell radish]

yayyyy

if they do change it i better get 64 slayer because i already finished the whole event

[waxen field]

And the entire even is still bugged to hell

[pine crow]

@sacred dirgeYou were the one who owned a SSG replica right? Can you tell me it's lenght?

[sacred dirge]

It's a 1:1 replica

[pine crow]

That's perfect, thanks

[waxen field]

How’d they get its measurement though?

[sacred dirge]

3d mod is public then a peice print

[shell radish]

Whats the company you order from? You said your ordered from a small german one

[sacred dirge]

Yes and I'm not sharing it in official doom server

[shell radish]

ok

[sacred dirge]

No worries

[timid plank]

Ever take literally an entire day to beat a fight? The last fight of reclaimed earth made me lose my sanity lol

[trail sky]

what edition of doom eternal do I get? on steam

[timid plank]

Not even the fights in tag 1 was this bad for me lol

[timid plank]

The standard just gives you the campaign while year one edition gives you the dlc but no campaign. So I’d get the standard first, if you like it get the dlcs

[trail sky]

alr tysm

[azure oriole]

What keybinds do yall have for this game? Im trying to figure which button i should put my equipment launcher to but ive been having a tough time

[timid plank]

I do default cause I got big ass hands lol don’t have any trouble reaching any of the default key bind buttons

[azure oriole]

For me its moreso it feels awkward

[burnt moss]

I don’t have any ass hands at all, you ok?

[timid plank]

It’s my secret for being good at the game

[simple cove]

please tell me that the best character (intern) has a name

[gray rivet]

Sib Canay I think

[simple cove]

i love it

[gray rivet]

Lol I feel bad. That's actually not his name xd

[simple cove]

💀💀💀

[gray rivet]

I love how this soda burns the top layer of skin on my tongue away

[timid plank]

Fuck kinna name is that lmao his parents must really hate him

[timid plank]

Oh that makes sense

[azure oriole]

What kind of soda is that and from which brand? What I usually drink doesn’t do that, but I mostly drink sugarfree.

[gray rivet]

Lol!

[gray rivet]

Grape crush

[opaque oar]

hello

[gray rivet]

Hi

[waxen field]

Imma orange crush guy haven’t had that happen, maybe grape is cursed

[timid plank]

Damn the dark lord fight is boring lol

[burnt moss]

SSG Pit should go to hell. I just spent like a half hour beating it.

[timid plank]

Ssg pit?

[gray rivet]

The blood pit

[timid plank]

Where is that? Doesn’t ring a bell

The blood swamps?

[gray rivet]

In cultist base, when the floor around the platform collapses when you see your ssg

Then your in a pit and shield guy, whiplash, arachnatrons, 2 mancs

Cueball guys

[timid plank]

Ohh

Yeah that part is annoying

The one fight that gave me the most struggle out of every single one (including both dlcs) is the first arena fight in doom hunter base where the pinky is first introduced

[gray rivet]

I figure you'd do better if you tried again

Not sure how many times you've played through it

[timid plank]

Me?

[gray rivet]

Yes

[timid plank]

Oh I’ve beat the game, I was just saying out of all the fights, that’s the one that took me the most time to get past

[burnt moss]

Idk how you’re supposed to not die by manc there

[waxen field]

Cueballs

[junior mortar]

got any tips im doing nightmare in campaign

[waxen field]

Air control and equip rune are great

Don’t forget to flame belch, use equipment, and blood punch

Weapon switching is op

[junior mortar]

i do it but doom hunters are literally destroying me even with sentinel armor i still cant do it i use lots of equipment

[waxen field]

Freeze then bloodpunch, ssg, and lastly ballista the sled. Dash to break their rocket’s lock-on.

Lock-on rockets to finish them after the sled is broken

If you can’t beat them without sentinel armor though you’re going to have a rough nightmare run

[burnt moss]

Master Meathook. Like, get the mastery so it gives you armor. And also use it all the time to stay in the air.

Guys I just had a realization, in the depths of Cultist Base on NM

I am… not good at the game

[azure forum]

Cultists takes some practice. You'll get there

[burnt moss]

Like, I can beat it, but that’s because of how forgiving the game is with Flaming Meathook and extra lives etc.

That’s why the first few levels are hard: I’m missing the repentance factor, and boy am I a sinner!

[azure forum]

You need to get more used to long distance combat. You got no shield and you take a lot more damage

Plus the low health already

[burnt moss]

Long distance absolutely. Because it’s hard to aim I close the distance all the time but I should be engaging from a distance

[waxen field]

Lack of upgrades/weapons/equipment/runes/ect.

[azure forum]

Since I started playing without shield, I am way more aware of the health/shield that I have. The shield is very strong, but it creates this dependence on it that really hurts you in UN first couple of levels

[waxen field]

Yea it’s a noob trap

[azure forum]

Nah, it is not a noob thing to use it.

[waxen field]

As in overuse and dependence

[azure forum]

You see a lot of players overuse it for sure. Learning to not rely much on it is definitely important. Many players go all in with the shield and that hurts them back in more difficult scenarios. That's my personal opinion

[azure forum]

Mastering PB is important for that reason. Also, loot magnet is simply the best first upgrade imo. On praetor tokens, quick swap and then dash. I personally from there go to explosive barrels and then try to max some of the frags and ice bombs. The rest of upgrades can wait till the end.

[azure oriole]

I used to play a lot with shield in the beginning but I do the same, mainly tho because I use other weapons a lot more nowdays. But it depends though at times it can be useful but I’ve come to realization my playstyle is kinda aggressive and thinking of UN I think I’m going to need to change that.

[burnt moss]

Unfortunately you need good aim for PB

[waxen field]

I still am not the best with pb combos, though I never tried to master them

[gray rivet]

I just reached 100 hours of gameplay today

[azure forum]

It is OK to use the shield. Let me get that clear. I am not against it. It is a freaking OP weapon. Now, the shield makes you get closer to demons or try to combat at low health which is not the best thing when playing UN in the early levels.

[waxen field]

That’s my thoughts, I still use it a fair bit

[azure forum]

That safe factor from the shield creates bad habits. That's my point. You can learn to play around those for sure and still abuse the shield.

I've been playing a lot of battlemode lately. And let me tell you, not having the shield punishes a lot of slayers

[azure oriole]

Yeah it is, but I realized I did not use it as much in TAG 1 for example. I could have used it a lot more and made some things probably easier.

[waxen field]

Shield dashing

[azure forum]

I wasn't as well when I started playing, then someone kinda showed me the way. I used to use Micromissiles a lot, now I just can't play without PB. It is just too good.

[waxen field]

Honestly chrono is also a noob trap

[fossil terrace]

aggresive can work, you just have to be incredibly thoughtful with your moves

[azure forum]

I've cut the shield and the BFG from my arsenal and makes the game more interesting to be honest- of course, after many hours of play and not having anything else to play for other than to just have fun

I have been using the Unmaykr instead of the shield lol and it is actually pretty decent - I use it just to use the BFG cell ammo

[gray rivet]

I just don't use the bfg, except for the challenge on Mars core

Unmaykr is cool

[azure oriole]

Sad part is I fire away bfg accidentally so often and then I ended up not having it when I could have actually used it.

[gray rivet]

Lol that happens to me sometimes

[azure forum]

Today I beat Taras Nabad master level UN without shield, BFG or Crucible. I did use the Unmayker but it doesn't really make a huge difference.

[gray rivet]

Unmaykr is fair

[azure forum]

It basically melts one demon, but I like that it is quite limited since ammo pool is low

Makes it fair to use it. Don't get me wrong, using all those powerful weapons is good and you should do it if you are trying to beat anything in UN. That's my advice fam

[burnt moss]

How do you kill the three tyrants in the final battle?

[waxen field]

I’ve played a good bit like 5+ playthrough of base game all but one on nm. Have also done a few dlc runs all nm. Also al mls but the two newest and cultist.

It’s the one thing I really need to work on.

[azure forum]

You grab the power up right before the arena is about to end, then SLOB the shit out of them. If not, use Dblades to hit all 3 and go from there.

[azure forum]

Nice man. You'll get UN soon don't worry. Once again, use those powerful tools. Don't limit yourself.

If any of you is trying to beat UN, have a plan to maximize your super weapons and get the max out of them. Once you've beaten UN, go crazy and use whatever you want 😂

[waxen field]

Permadeath in a 10+ hour game doesn’t seem fun to me

[gray rivet]

Yea I really wanted UN for a while. But I think I might just be ok with not chasing after it

[azure forum]

It is not, that's why you want to make sure that you utilize everything to the max. BFG the shit out of arenas, skip unnecessary encounters, use upgrades on the most important things, etc.

[gray rivet]

Yea true

[azure forum]

I used to say the same Archipielago, and here I am 😂

[burnt moss]

Sounds super difficult

[gray rivet]

Right now I'm playing through on NM. Just beat sentinel prime. Had maybe 10 - 12 deaths

[azure forum]

The Archie room and the coin room are rough. The coin room because when the totem spawns, you can die super quick. The Archie room is just about killing those tyrants as quick as posible and then you can unmaykr 1 Archie. From there, you can manage the second one with ice bomb - making sure that the summon demons don't kill you. That 3 tyrant arena isn't that bad. They are just bullet sponges.

[burnt moss]

On Sentinel Prime? Or total?

[gray rivet]

Total, so far in the campaign

[waxen field]

Probably just do my current run finish mc and ws mls on nm and move onto something else

[azure forum]

That's fine. Let me tell you something, all UN rewards suck anyways

[waxen field]

That archie room is bs

[azure forum]

Maybe except for the immortal banner

[burnt moss]

Bullets=time and there’s nowhere to run in that hallway

[azure oriole]

Imo they don’t. Especially if you have everything golden they look pretty good

[waxen field]

Yea I could tell from their looks in the milestone menu

[azure forum]

Right, the hallway is designed for Crucible. But if you get the Haste thing, you can melt them with rockets.

[burnt moss]

Good job. I think my last NM run was similar. I’d die occasionally. I guess I still have to improve further on joysticks

[burnt moss]

Haste does something to your weapons?

[azure forum]

Nah, they all look bad even the gold weapons. I personally don't like them. Also, the stress from UN is not worth for many. I don't blame them. At the end, play the game to have fun and enjoy it no matter the difficulty. The only thing that you ALWAYS have to do is Glory Kill the shit out of marauders. That's a must

[gray rivet]

Thanks are you wanting to beat UN one day?

[night arch]

Yes

[burnt moss]

UNnecessary haha.

[azure oriole]

Yeah it’s subjective, I think they look better to me because 1. i like gold 2. You know the effort that went behind it to get there.

[gray rivet]

Haha

[burnt moss]

So no I just want to feel like I’m good at the game. My goal is beating all MLs on NM. On Switch I got all but MC, TN, and WS and crashing/lagging necessitated buying an Xbox. But now with no gyro I’m on a quest to redeem myself as a NM player, and then eventually take on the MLs

[azure forum]

The only UN stuff I always use are the plasma riffle skin, the Archie Icon (fav demon) and the immortal banner

[gray rivet]

Word pretty much, same. Want to feel good at the game

[waxen field]

Yea the mls suffer from poor qa

[azure forum]

Nah, switch has some crashing issues

[waxen field]

Due to bad qa

[indigo surge]

My ps has bad crashing issues

[azure forum]

Then I guess yeah. I have had crashes on switch but not a single one on stadia. I have had soft locks though

[azure oriole]

Ps4 or ps5 ?

[indigo surge]

PS4 1215

[waxen field]

Mine hasn’t on the most recent update though I haven’t done mc or ws mls. I’ve only had one crash current patch.

Also play ps4

[indigo surge]

My ps is kinda old though so it's probably just that

[waxen field]

Bad install possibly

[azure oriole]

Remember to clean the dust and rebuild database.

[indigo surge]

Probably

[indigo surge]

I've cleaned it but I'll try the rebuild

[waxen field]

If it occurs in other applications try what the other guy said, otherwise it could be a hardware issue like a failing hardrive or something.

[indigo surge]

Yeah I will thanks

[burnt moss]

I just barely beat that one and it took me 3-4 tries, not nearly as bad as the blood pit. SSG is just SO OP

[strange gale]

good weapon = op

[waxen field]

Yea that fight is brutal

[waxen field]

Faster to write

[night egret]

bruh i posted that in march 2020 1 day after eternal came out lol

[night arch]

Correct

[night egret]

aight

[burnt moss]

GUYS I made it through the Lava on DHB!

[waxen field]

Power move

[simple umbra]

what's the coolest looking mission in TAG 2

[azure forum]

Reclaimed earth by far

[gray rivet]

Lava actually has killed me a few times

[mental stone]

The floor is lava.

[simple umbra]

wats DHB

[waxen field]

Said it before I could lol

[night egret]

doom hunter base

[gray rivet]

Another cool looking map is Arc Complex

[simple umbra]

oh ok

[gray rivet]

Imo

[waxen field]

Tag 1’s Atlantica

[gray rivet]

That one is nice

[simple umbra]

atlantica was really nice

[azure forum]

I really wonder how he ended all the way back to 2020 to find that specific comment 😂

[sacred dirge]

Water theme like Atlantica in general

[waxen field]

Glad Atlantica was unnerfed refused to touch update 5 due to that

[burnt moss]

WHY THE FUCK DO GLORY KILLS TURN YOU AROUND

[indigo surge]

They don't for me

[sacred dirge]

Glory kills are ass

[simple umbra]

I dont think they do for me

[sacred dirge]

You can get a jank animation time to time

[night egret]

thats what i was wondering too

[simple umbra]

dragon scale ballista looks really cool..

[burnt moss]

It’s only sometimes. I tried to run away right after a glory kill right into a lazer and died

[burnt moss]

How do you get that?

[simple umbra]

TAG 1 extra life mode with at least 5 or more extra lives

[gray rivet]

I like 'rune scarred' for ballista as well

[burnt moss]

If only I bought TAG on Xbox

[simple umbra]

what's that

[azure forum]

You should when it goes on sale Volden. I didn't buy it on switch but playing on 60fps or higher is so much better

[burnt moss]

Please post pic can’t find one

[simple umbra]

yea I'm interested in it too

[waxen field]

TAG 1 has the best weapon skins imo

[azure forum]

I love the ray tracing ballista skin

[gray rivet]

Skin from series one

[burnt moss]

Idk. Not sure I love TAG enough to make it worth it. Maybe after I beat all the MLs on NM in a year or two haha

[waxen field]

That one is great too

[night egret]

got 2600 hours on PC so its gonna be jarring tryna play on switch when that arrives lol

[burnt moss]

That looks good

[twilit dune]

Why couldn't they give us co-op mode on Eternal or 2016 ugh

[burnt moss]

Wait you’re doing WHAAAAT?!

[simple umbra]

is the barbarian gold slayer skin worth getting

[azure forum]

Switch isn't that bad. At least battlemode is active, but if you can play on 60fps or higher it is just a must

[waxen field]

Eternal is already held together by duct tape

[azure oriole]

You can search msg from specific dates too, I think that’s how they did it.

[azure forum]

I doubt I'll get this game for the steam deck, but I am definitely beating 2016 on UN in the steam deck

[twilit dune]

Doom 3 on original xbox had co-op mode it was amazing

the bfg edition did not had it and then the upcoming Doom games all did not had jack shit

[night egret]

wat

[twilit dune]

seems like ID software forgot about co-op

[burnt moss]

You’re so positive. But Switch is literally the worst way to play DE. Even the fact that you have a better experience on actual cloud gaming attests to that.

[waxen field]

Bfg is trash

[burnt moss]

Switch is the worst

[twilit dune]

it doesn't matter what you think it did not had co-op

[gray rivet]

@simple umbra @burnt moss posted ballista in #screenshots

[azure forum]

I think I just really appreciate the fact that the game runs in such crappy hardware.

[waxen field]

Except for ws ml

[night egret]

yeah well, i saw the limited run gaming switch bundle and went fuck it why not

[azure forum]

It works for me. I've had a lot of fun playing battlemode on switch. Not the best but it works

[burnt moss]

Imagine all the clipping into your partner lol

[twilit dune]

well that's understandable

but in 2016 that was unnaceptable

[burnt moss]

Ooh pretty. How do you get it?

[twilit dune]

with eternal with all the jumping I could see how co-op could pose a problem

[azure forum]

Yep, I got only base game on switch. I heard bad comments on MLs before. I already got all on Stadia anyways

[sacred dirge]

Ml classic is not very enjoyable

[burnt moss]

Rooting for the underdog is cool, but maining the underdog is just disappointing

[waxen field]

Yea on Switch they’re particularly probe to problems

[azure forum]

Mars core is just the worst

The other master levels are fine. Mars core just plain sucks. Full auto and heat blast for the first 3 arenas. Fuck that

[waxen field]

Only thing switch has is gyro and portability

Both are done better on steam deck

[azure oriole]

Guys... this is my first time ever playing DOOM Eternal, and I chose Nightmare difficulty, and omfg, I've died like 5 times on this one encounter, each time I'm like 7 minutes in and almost done I think. Save me from smashing my keyboard to pieces xD
(Accidently posted that in the 2016 chat, here's an update:)
Just finished mission 4, where you fight the doom hunters. Hoooolyyyy, that mission was insane.
I think I'll be able to handle it, I've solo'ed the Halo games on Legendary, Gears Insane, etc. Just gotta get the mechanics down. Think I'm getting the hang of it already.
I finished 2016 on Hurt Me Plenty and thought it was too easy, so went for Nightmare. Plus, the content. Putting it on YouTube. It's been an experience, that's for sure xD

[azure forum]

Yep nightmare usually requieres some knowledge on the game and it’s mechanics. Going directly to nightmare is going to be rough

[burnt moss]

I’ll be more direct: do not play Nightmare as your first run

[simple umbra]

yea playing nightmare on your first run is a mistake

[waxen field]

Nightmare isn’t even half as bad as Halo 2 on Legendary. You got this.

[waxen field]

Not necessarily

[azure oriole]

Not really no. I wouldn’t say it’s mistake. It’s a choice. Like life is choices.

[fossil terrace]

picking nightmare on your first run is chosing hardship in learning the game

[azure oriole]

Besides you can always change the difficulty around.

[burnt moss]

Some choices are mistakes. Conditional upon the desired outcome

[waxen field]

Me playing tlou on grounded

[fossil terrace]

like picking the thickest board to break in karate, you will eventually get through it if you're committed but, it's gonna suck

[azure oriole]

I spent most of this last level just double jumping and dashing around, harvesting the little guys for resources, then shooting some rockets at the big guys, then back to circling the room xD

Well, I made it this far lol It's difficult af, but rewarding when I finally prevail. I will say I didn't expect there to be so many new mechanics from 2016, probably not the best to learn like this. But.. 🤷‍♂️

[burnt moss]

As a blue belt (not currently training) you will break your hand doing that

[waxen field]

Nah, it ain’t that bad

[burnt moss]

Just doesn’t sound fun. Because you’re having to focus on keeping your health and armor up more than on killing the demons of doom

[fossil terrace]

some will yes, it even works in my metaphor

[waxen field]

Some people enjoy that challenge

[burnt moss]

It is fair to call it a bad idea though because of the risk

[waxen field]

I didn’t properly use the mechanics on nm till the Holt slayer gate I still had fun

[fossil terrace]

probably

i can see some people getting bad habits from nightmare being their first playthrough

and it will definitely burn you out lol

[waxen field]

I think y’all overstate nm personally and I’m not even a phenomenal player

[azure oriole]

Things like that doesn’t apply to everyone. So to say it’s mistake for everyone isn’t true.

I did have to take a pizza break xD
But I'm enjoying it. I like a challenge. And it's all about those satisfying glory kills xD and the cutscenes.

[fossil terrace]

true

[burnt moss]

It’s not the hardest thing in the world but it shouldn’t be your first attempt.

[burnt moss]

That’s like saying j-walking on the freeway isn’t a bad idea because people often make it to the other side

[azure oriole]

I don’t think that’s true. You get no penalty technically, actually you gain something from it. You still die/ get cp / lose extra lives so you don’t lose anything (cause it is no un). If it is something you absolutely hate then can always lower difficulty too or play mixed difficulties.

[fossil terrace]

now nm is cool and all but UN first run xD

[azure oriole]

Yeah no UN first run. But my point it is that it is no UN, so you don’t lose anything by upping the difficulty/ changing it even if it’s your first run.

[sacred dirge]

Do you mean over estimate

[fair mango]

What else?

[sacred dirge]

?

[burnt moss]

You risk not having fun though

[sacred dirge]

Was I replying to you

[fair mango]

Oooh we live in a George Orwellian society where I cannot talk in a conversation without you talking to me

[sacred dirge]

Okay

[fair mango]

Holy shit guys

Absolutely incredible

[sacred dirge]

[burnt moss]

Wtf is going on lol

[sacred dirge]

No idea

[burnt moss]

Any advice on killing DH phase 1 boss quickly? It’s just wearing on my endurance

[fair mango]

Target the sled

Blood punch

[azure forum]

Quickly? You need BPs and get close to SSG PB the sled for high damage. You can use frags to falter while you hit. Also, on a slower version for sure, you can just micromisisles from far until the sled breaks.

[fossil terrace]

ice bomb frag rocket pb to death lol

[burnt moss]

Now that I’ve beaten him, tell me why I should have not LOBbed him to death lol

Is he resistant?

[slow sigil]

Destroyg the shield and then LOB spam takes longer and is less fun

[burnt moss]

I only had one BP so I never destroyed his shield lol. So does the shield actually block damage and make him stronger?

[slow sigil]

With lob? I think the rockets target his body soo

[burnt moss]

What I’m asking is does he require a different amount of damage overall if you don’t break the shield first?

[fossil terrace]

it blocks some damage till it's gone i believe

[slow sigil]

The shield is a shied like what the zombies have, blocks all damage except MM and stickies for....some reason

[fossil terrace]

I believe some damage is still applied to the sled

Because the sled is unshielded and splash damage should still cover it.

[burnt moss]

So I’m wasting some time if I just LOB?

[slow sigil]

If you hit his shield, yeah obviously

[burnt moss]

I was thinking it was similar to my armor, where it doesn’t change total hp

[fossil terrace]

plasma rifle then lobs would be the way to do it if you were going for that

[burnt moss]

Finally beat second phase.

[burnt moss]

Plasma doesn’t work

[sturdy saffron]

How efficient is a chaingun against archvile

[burnt moss]

Btw I started using SSG more and aiming for the sled, and it did help. Thanks.

[slow sigil]

Well it's like any other energy shield

[near nest]

Yo

[slow sigil]

Huh,that's strange. It should work (according to the toturial/codex atleast lmfao)

[burnt moss]

Well when you say it like that I guess it is obvious. Except does breaking the shield change the overall hp required, compared to shooting the shield?

[slow sigil]

Same as any other gun, but chaingun isnt a great weapon unless you shieldbash so yeah

[near nest]

Just unlocked a bunch of skins through the event and equipped. Exited game and restarted the skins were not equipped and not available to equip. The event rewards page shows them as still unlocked though. Any idea?

[sturdy saffron]

What about BP + mobile turret

[slow sigil]

Nope, except if his shield gettig overcharged hurts him but i dont know

[slow sigil]

What about it

[sturdy saffron]

Could it do good against an Archvile

[slow sigil]

Well good it wont be cause it's mobile turret lol, but idk if you have to reconfigure MT every time you BP

But shieldbashing with BP would still be superior anyways

[fossil terrace]

items are still bugged

[near nest]

So this is known issue?

[fossil terrace]

yeah

[near nest]

Any chance it will get fixed or

[azure oriole]

event is bugged <--
best event ngl.

[fossil terrace]

dunno, hope so

[near nest]

Ok. Thnx

[fossil terrace]

the santa slayer skin needs to be fixed anyway, it's not supposed to be in

[near nest]

Yall know how to insta kill a tyrant?

[azure oriole]

yeah, /killai in console.

[slow sigil]

It's the best event cause it doesnt abuse FOMO cause they make you angry hell yeah

[slow sigil]

Bfg, crucible, it somehow falling off the map, traps, ~ killai

[near nest]

Na if you bring up weapon wheel just long enough to slow time then dash into tyrant with chain gun then quickly bring up shield after dash he dies. Handy.

[fossil terrace]

oml lmao

[slow sigil]

That's not instantly though

[near nest]

Sure ok. Im very sry

[slow sigil]

It takes a few microseconds, smh my head

[burnt moss]

The points sheet says that sledless he has half the hp compared to with sled. So I assume that LOBbing him to death requires the same HP as killing the sled and then LOB?

[near nest]

Try it. It def wont make you better at the game but good for oh shit moment

[strange gale]

shield raze

[slow sigil]

If you shoot him without shield he still first abandons his sled

[slow sigil]

Meh sounds too OP and easy to be really fun as a trick

[near nest]

I mean there are inputs

[slow sigil]

Like weapon wheel-bfg in 2016, sure it's fun to know ig but it's a sleeper

[near nest]

And timings

Well i guess i should die

[azure oriole]

in 15minutes I got to go to school
boring

[strange gale]

😱 basic execution! my achilles' heel! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929873339583971399/949673300907425822/jesust3.mp4

[fossil terrace]

cursed af

[near nest]

Thats my hc skin. Where did u get permission?

[strange gale]

like there's so little to this. it's not physically challenging in any way and there's no decisionmaking to it. you just nuke 1 enemy and that's it

[slow sigil]

Bro has a heavy canon NFT

[fossil terrace]

lmao

[near nest]

Yea

Glask im sry i brought it up. I hope one day you will be able to forgive me. When i invented that tech i never meant to hurt you. Deepest apologies. Love Bruxa.

[azure oriole]

What the FUCK just happened

[strange gale]

you didn't invent nothin

[near nest]

No shit nerd

Your a fucking detective huh

[mental stone]

Someone's perturbed.

[near nest]

Its def not glask

[strange gale]

talking bout "inputs" and "timing" as if this had fighting game level execution to it 💀

[near nest]

Oh man ur a mess. An i just said it wasnt like deleting in console

You have to press a button

[azure oriole]

Brapped too hard

[near nest]

It obviously doesnt require skill

[mental stone]

Don't you just hate it when that happens?

[slow sigil]

Mightas well be, takes the same level of skill

[near nest]

Why yall pretending like i ever insinuated it did lol

Neither does ledge launching. Still fun

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

His sled has X hp and he has Y hp.
You have to damage the sled first (or disable shield with plasma)

[junior mortar]

heckerrrrr

[burnt moss]

But it’s not like there’s a lower damage way to kill him. Phase 1 will always require 12k damage etc overall. Right?

[azure oriole]

Yeah exactly

[near nest]

I still fuck up pb rl quick swaps after like 4 ofem

[azure oriole]

Although bit of a missed opportunity imo.
If you could kill the dh straight then there would be a point to disabling his shield

As an alternative to destroying the sled first

[near nest]

Thats a good one

[last hamlet]

Eye

That must be very painful

[near nest]

No way

Its a feature

[burnt moss]

Yeah the shield leads one to believe it may work that way

[proven birch]

yeah it's a hard mode and kind of a NIGHTMARE lol

[azure oriole]

:peeposus:

[proven birch]

?

[waxen field]

Don’t even think that’s available on a first run

[fossil terrace]

it is :p

[fair mango]

yea i think you need to complete nm first before you can play on UN

[fossil terrace]

they didn't lock any difficulties this time

[waxen field]

Ah I thought it was

[azure oriole]

you can play UN right away

[waxen field]

I’m surprised this wasn’t patched yet umaykr haste was. Hugo must really hate that weapon.

[fossil terrace]

could be not worth fixing

[waxen field]

Same thing can be said with more so with Unmaykr haste

[fossil terrace]

wasn't unmaykr haste the infinite ammo with haste when using the unmaykr?

[waxen field]

Yea it was literally its only use

[azure oriole]

to my knowledge the thing that makes it possible is "collision detection" on dash, namely your momentum is arrested when you dash to an enemy.
They would probably have to change that to prevent shield raze from happening so it's kinda logical it's not patched

[fossil terrace]

well, from what i remember of my second of game design back in college, that was an easy patch since it would be a condition already present with the bfg while this bug with the tyrant is entirely different. it honestly seems like a collision mesh bug.

[waxen field]

It was unnecessary though, which is bad planning

[azure oriole]

shield raze is possible on any enemy not just tyrant

it is related to dash collision and the shield somehow going rapidly back and forth between damage / no damage frames

[waxen field]

They could fix it, they fixed the bfg exploit from 2016

[fossil terrace]

arguable but, that comes to your perviews on what is necessary and whether or not to patch unintended effects.

[waxen field]

Such an easy op option is bad design it takes no effort unlike for example instant db

[slow sigil]

Considering how far into the game it already is it isnt that vital

[azure oriole]

the guy who came up with shield raze explained it in more detail but I can't recall the specifics

[waxen field]

Yea, but I was mainly saying it’s odd they wasted time patching haste unmaykr and not this

[strange gale]

whenever the shield is active, there's a 0 damage collision check every frame. shield bashing does 200 damage. shield raze somehow replaces the collision check damage w/ shield bash.

[waxen field]

It’s this games version of instant siege

Honestly bit of a tangent but if they can’t be bothered to qa test events why bother with them?

[strange gale]

the game handles weapon bringup/bringdown animations in such a way that you can change their properties via mod swapping/weapon wheel. i'd say the real issue is the weapon wheel (considering how many other things it breaks).

[fossil terrace]

yeah, was just mentioning it on the tyrant as it was what was shown in referred video.

[azure oriole]

I'm betting it's related to the time slowdown of weapon wheel, it somehow messes up weapon states on bringup etc

[strange gale]

it's the timeslow, yeah

[waxen field]

At times I wonder if this game is duct taped together, though I suppose most game are.

[fossil terrace]

this honestly raises some questions i now have on the functions of the shield. like what condition could possibly enable the damage check.

[waxen field]

Possibly due to it lasting longer than intended idk

[strange gale]

the shield has 600 hp (which decays over time and in response to external damage, don't remember if shield bash applies)

the uptime doesn't get extended at all

[fossil terrace]

do you know if momentum would enable it? If so maybe it's an engine effect on how it's appling gravity to the slayer when the collision mesh is interacting with another also being effected by gravity.

[waxen field]

I mean as in it only checks for a certain number of frames when bashing to make sure to not rebash. Just a random guess likely wrong.

[strange gale]

you can only shield bash whenever you dash. here the collision check i mentioned becomes shield bash, which is still activated by dashing, but then the shield bashing continues on every frame until the shield dies.

there's no special check to know when the player "should" be able to shield bash

[waxen field]

Why’d they give it a bash to begin with its op even without it and it makes mt even more trash then it already is.

[strange gale]

i mean you could just say "only allow as many shield bashes per second as there are dash charges", no?

[fossil terrace]

ah so would it be an applied condition?

[strange gale]

w/ faster dasher, a single dash cooldown becomes 500ms so the math would be really easy

[waxen field]

Yea it could have been more intelligently implemented. The issue is multiple enemies with that idea though, I’d assume.

[topaz quail]

doom gives me an adrenaline feeling in ultra nightmare when u master the weapon combo

the weapon combos can get technical

[proven birch]

very true combos are fun to do

[fair mango]

I don’t really plan my combos out I just click on random keys on my keyboard at random intervals

[topaz quail]

I like challenging myself in hitting cool shots

with the rocket u can play sick asf

in sniper combo

i like the micro beam noise

[fair mango]

I’d miss a baron right in my face, I won’t ever hit any cool shots

[waxen field]

Me on controller

[wide crest]

microwave be like: hmmmmhmmmmhmhmh

[waxen field]

[royal sparrow]

.

[random vault]

?

[topaz quail]

meathook launch up + rocket n sniper

not the launching rocket it wastes to much ammo

[amber mauve]

Did rewards system fixed I saw they patching something

nvm

[slow sigil]

Why go to rocket launcher if you arent gonna shoot?

[azure forum]

[ruby solar]

People say that eternal has too many currency systems. If they DID combine them all, then first off, how would we be able to upgrade ourselves? Second, if we DID, then we’d be able to unbalance ourselves to SHIT. The whole reason we have this many currency systems is for added customization.

[slow sigil]

There arent too many currency systems though

Theres hp, armour, and 4 ammo types. That's not too many at all

Ok and BP i guess

Supers are, well, supers so those are kinda away from the rest so i dont count them

All your equipment automatically recharges so not really currency

[random vault]

❔

[slow sigil]

Oh wait they meant the upgrade stuff oops

[slow sigil]

Idk i can see sentinel tokens and weaponpoints to be combined, and batteries to possible be removed but then there would be no hub stuff so ehhhh

Or they just remove suit upgrades too lol

Things in the uhhh mobility section (forgot how it was called) should all be default anyways

[ruby solar]

Well the reason they have more currency systems is for more customization. There were already Praetor Suit Tokens, Sentinel Crystals (which were Argent Cells), and Weapon Mods and Points in 2016. They added the other systems to make a wider variety of upgrades.

[slow sigil]

Yeah but still, many suit upgrades are a bit insignificant anyways, and some should be just default. And mixing weapon points and sentinel coins isnt too much of a stretch.
Crystals are okay ig, and runes are cool but should be a bit more unique and strong compared to what they are in eternal

[ruby solar]

The Runes in 2016 were so annoying. Especially Saving Throw. Good god.

[slow sigil]

As in what they do fyi

[ruby solar]

No. The challenges.

[slow sigil]

Yeah but i meant solely in what they do

[azure forum]

If 2016 had the same rune mechanics as eternal, it would have been great- and too op maybe? I mean on having the option to choose what rune you want

[ruby solar]

Rich Get Richer would’ve been WAYY too op.

[slow sigil]

You already can choose which rune you want at any time once you have them. I dont want rich get richer to retyrn that one was just silly i just want there to be more competition cause in eternal the balance in runes is uhhh quite poor

[azure forum]

But putting rich gets richer on the side, all other runes are usable as opposed to eternal

[slow sigil]

They should straight up combine some of the GK runes lol

Faster GKs and speed after GK, more range and they stay longer in gk state or something

Slight rebalance of the stats ofc but it would be funner and then have the other runes be equally impactfull

[strange gale]

could just use the same currency for every upgrade. game wouldn't really get much more busted than it is

[slow sigil]

I think there was a 5th GK one but i genuinly forgot if there was one

[azure forum]

I would have love to see the BP one somehow being better. Maybe it adds BP recharge time? Something like that to make it more usable.

[strange gale]

sure you'd get highly skewed builds early game, but you'd also get fucked for not balancing things

[slow sigil]

Just make stronger upgrades cost more smh

Not too much more though, that's bs

[fast sage]

[proven birch]

?

[azure oriole]

❔

[topaz quail]

i meant locking rocket mod

[vast kettle]

DOOM Eternal should've had more hard rock music

[topaz quail]

no

[vast kettle]

Don't get me wrong. I like the music, but having more hard rock would've been fucking awesome.

[topaz quail]

it wouldnt be themed

[vast kettle]

You're the hellwalker, it's themed

[topaz quail]

its

mix

[azure oriole]

I preferred the electro shit.

Eternal's soundtrack is an improvement over 2016's IMO

[unborn sorrel]

welp, accidentally deleted eternal, now I have to wait for eternity to download it back again

[warm juniper]

how do you accidently uninstall something

[azure oriole]

by accident

I uninstalled alot of games by accident.

[warm juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-unlock-your-brain-gif-14425366

[burnt moss]

Same way you accidentally get pregnant I suppose

[void saffron]

You banged the uninstall button?

[burnt moss]

Idk ask your mother or something. I missed that day in school.

[void saffron]

My mom doesn't own doom eternal

[burnt moss]

No but I said it’s the same as accidental pregnancy

[azure oriole]

Saber Is somehow always online and he puts the misery emoji
somehow

[random vault]

misery emote describes EC at basically all times

[azure oriole]

wait that's EC?

I thought we are in general

[random vault]

E(ternal) C(hat)

[azure oriole]

Daddy issues and too much alcohol?

[void saffron]

Rip

[azure oriole]

Lols 😂

[random vault]

el o el

[long locust]

i dont think i switched off of the super shotgun after i got it

[low zephyr]

Console fam - anyone use a scuf controller for doom eternal? Lol

[proven birch]

?

[proven birch]

?

[proven birch]

no but i play claw

[azure forum]

hi