doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

Would like a comic bridging the gap with 2016 and Eternal

[severe ermine]

i love the fact we can play doom 1 and 2 inside of doom eternal

[primal relic]

I don’t think there’d be very many interesting things between doom 2016 and eternal other than him getting the fortress of doom

[true bough]

Anyone got any idea how to beat the part of the blood swamps with the baron of hell thats possessed by a spirit in ancient gods 1? I'm still new to the game so I'm on hurt me plenty difficulty

[azure oriole]

That is why you make up interesting things to put in there!

[primal relic]

How much have you played the main campaign?

[true bough]

Beat it

[primal relic]

I personally think Hayden sent the Slayer off to Argent D’nur, where the sentinels revealed that they were, in fact, not dead, then set the slayer up with his man cave

[true bough]

When I said beat it i mean the campaign not the possessed baron of hell btw

[primal relic]

I’d say play the main campaign a little more. From my experience just your first completion of the campaign doesn’t make you ready for TAG1 without getting pummeled

[true bough]

Should I play it on a higher difficulty?

[primal relic]

Final sin is good practice imo

[slow sigil]

Killimg the first priest's guardian

[primal relic]

Don’t stress yourself, but imo yes

[primal relic]

Mastermind?

[true bough]

Got it ill practice on the main campaign until I start to get better and then I'll try to tackle the possessed baron of hell

What difficulty should I set it to i was on hurt me plenty last time

[primal relic]

The Slayer didn’t really do anything with the invasion of Earth until the very beginning of eternal, so I doubt he did any killing on argent d’nur or anywhere else a guardian would be. I’d think it’s the Mastermind.

[slow sigil]

Mastermind was before the priests got involved

[primal relic]

Oh

[slow sigil]

Ok then, but how would it be the mastermind then?

[primal relic]

Ultra-violence

[true bough]

Got it thanks for the tips

[primal relic]

That’s what I don’t really know

[primal relic]

👍

[azure oriole]

Mastermind ain't Nilox's guardian.

[primal relic]

Is it known what is?

[azure oriole]

Nilox didn't arrive on Earth until after Doom 2016, and the Mastermind is the physical form of the Dark Lord of the Fourth Age. Way above his paygrade.

[azure oriole]

No, but if you use your imagination it could perhaps be a Titan or another big demon, considering the Slayer has a ruined Atlan in the Fortress.

[primal relic]

And yet dyno did nothing about the 900 other people that said that, therefore making me think it was fine 🗿🗿🗿🗿

[novel sierra]

When will we be able to play as that atlan

[azure oriole]

What word?

[novel sierra]

[primal relic]

Slang for female reproductive organ

[azure oriole]

Ah

[primal relic]

Mister loremaster, could you help me out with an enemy concept? I want to know if it’s feasible to exist lore-wise, as it’s a maykr enemy

[azure oriole]

Yeah sure.

[flat trail]

critical damage or whatever

[primal relic]

Is it alright if I head to DMs with it?

[azure oriole]

Sure thing.

[timid plank]

Why do I gotta unlock shit that’s already in my own ship bruh, let me just get that unmaykr

I’ve been leaving slayer gates alone but then I realized I need them to unlock the unmaykr so I’ve been going back and doing them

Up to doom hunter base now

Also picking up collectibles that I missed first time around

But the whole point of me doing them is to do the slayer gates

Although I think one of the missions don’t have a slayer gate in it at all, so I’ll use cheat codes for the ones that don’t have slayer gates

[slow sigil]

Khan makyr locked your ship

[timid plank]

I thought it was “we’re lacking energy to open some parts of the ship, so we need sentinel batteries etc”

[slow sigil]

Oh yeah or that, idk i'm just saying something random to justify it
Unmaykr is definitely just locked though

[timid plank]

I ain’t never heard of a lock that requires 6 goddamn keys

[sullen imp]

Hello chat...

[timid plank]

I’m watching too much Tarantino, starting to talk like Samuel L Jackson lmao

[slow sigil]

One to lock away the makyr's only weapon

[bleak star]

I'm currently doing a UN run and I just encountered a friendly caco and it didn't even shoot lightning balls at me or bite me. It was just yawning

When they stop trying to kill you, you really realize Cacodemons are actually kinda cute

[azure oriole]

There should be a pet caco in fortress of doom. Like Slimer in Ghostbusters

[bleak star]

I want a game mode on eternal where I raise my own caco like a demonic chao garden

Do you think cacodemons can be tamed legitimately, I mean it says they're just always in a constant state of hunger right

[azure oriole]

I'm still in my ghostbusters phase, 33 years of it and going strong (saw the film when I was 5)

Oh boy did I want to be a ghostbuster as a kid 🤣

Cool

[azure oriole]

IMO, no. The Codex says they're driven solely by hunger, and they don't seem to have much intelligence beyond that. It'd be like taming a hippo.

[bleak star]

Tarter sauce..

[azure oriole]

Pinkies could perhaps be tamed, though yI guess you won't find out if it worked until it's too late.

[bleak star]

Won't stop me from trying

[azure oriole]

I haven't watched the cartoon much (didn't air much here) just the films. And most games.

[azure oriole]

Just make sure your blood punch isn't charged if you slap it for disciplinary reasons

Probably as they are a delicacy in hell

Depends on the breed.

The Nameless are brutal, wild animals and demons do not fuck with them.

Hellhounds seem to be more domesticated.

-Nameless
-Hellhounds
-Specters (UAC)
-Psecters (Hell)

Nameless are the Pinkies you see in Doom 2016 and Eternal
Hellhounds are the Doom 3 Pinkies

So what are og doom pinkies?

The manual refers to them simply as demons

[azure oriole]

Either the Nameless or a different breed altogether. You could argue they are the same as Nameless and they just don't have armor because it's 1993

Or, if you want, you can say they're a different breed.

[primal relic]

Could the demons have adapted to Doomguy’s arsenal, thus making them stronger as the games went on and indirectly making forces such as the UAC and ARC useless against them?

[azure oriole]

Potentially, but I should note that the ARC actually did a very good job against the demons.

They were anything but useless - they drove back Hell's forces for 13 years straight.

[primal relic]

Yeah maybe useless was the wrong word

[azure oriole]

But yeah, we don't know about actual evolution but we know stuff along these lines seem to have happened.

Mainly with the Argent Energy.

[azure oriole]

Then this one guy just shows up in a flying rock...

Argent for Hell acts as a canon explanation as to why demons are so much stronger post-Doom 64. Why do Barons only walk and throw fire in Doom 1 but in 2016 they leap and crush and all? Aside from technological limitations, this is why.

[primal relic]

I see

[azure oriole]

Combining Wraith Energy with the Essence dramatically bolstered the strength and stamina of demons.

[azure oriole]

Now they can use heavy weapons in dark souls!
🤣

Ok I stop make bad joke now

That we see? The Spiderdemon

Hugo was wrong there.

Female demons, listed in order of appearance:
-Spiderdemon
-Mother Demon
-Resurrector
-Vagary
-Spider Mastermind
-Whiplash

[slow sigil]

All of them unfemaled, except the whiplash mah hugo says

[severe ermine]

but but

mother demon

[slow sigil]

Who doesnt

[severe ermine]

why does doom guy have an actually good gaming setup

3 monitors

where did kb go

oh shit its there

[patent stream]

Easter egg

Ello

[severe ermine]

oh damn theres a shredded picture of his wife and child on the floor

i didnt see that before

[patent stream]

Recessive gene

[severe ermine]

bro his keyboard is fire

and then he has classic pc with the og doom games on there

[sacred dirge]

Science

[severe ermine]

oh theres daisy's cage next to his pc

[burnt moss]

Does Xbox One handle DE better than Switch?

[patent stream]

Technically no

[severe ermine]

i mean

i dont know the exact amount of fps i get

i think its like 40 with default settings

[burnt moss]

I’d still have slowdowns and crashing on Master Levels like I do now?

[severe ermine]

i never crashed on my doom

[patent stream]

That version of the game tries to run it at 60fps, but it almost never reaches 60fps. So the game is constantly around 40-55fps average

It also utilizes dynamic resolution constantly, so the game will always have a smear or blur sense to it, that the switch doesn’t

It may not crash, but it is worse in most other regards

Plus if you were looking at the one for cost, just go with the series S

The other day I saw a used series S at GameStop for $220

[flat trail]

hi bob

[patent stream]

Hi shark

[flat trail]

hello

[burnt moss]

I’m wondering if it would make sense to borrow it from my sister until I buy the S

[severe ermine]

wait can series s stay at 60 fps with doom

[patent stream]

Yes

It also supports the 120fps mode if I recall

Lemme double check

[severe ermine]

yea it doesp

xbox one s is supposed to go 60 but i think i dont have the right tv

[burnt moss]

What is sacrificed with 120?

[patent stream]

You would be playing with 1080p

Which is still more than what the switch has

[patent stream]

The tv wouldn’t really matter, like I said eternal on Xbox one runs at like 40-55fps dynamically. If your tv only has a 40hz refresh rate that’s actually better t for now

[burnt moss]

I can’t tell the difference between SD and HD, even watching TV. That is never a priority to me.

[sacred dirge]

Overpriced for the proformance

[burnt moss]

Really sounds like Series S will make my dreams come true

[patent stream]

That was the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard my guy

[burnt moss]

It’s cheap tho

[sacred dirge]

The ps5 man. Not xbox

[patent stream]

You do realize the series S is $300 right?

[sacred dirge]

I saw another ps5 going for 900 today

[patent stream]

Even the ps5 is worth the price for the performance. ( not that you can find any o course)

[severe ermine]

honestly i cant tell the difference between 1080p to 1440p so 1080p is just fine for me

[sacred dirge]

Yeah there isn't really

I did see a jump in 4 k though

[patent stream]

Yeah it’s not noticeable unless you own a huge 4k tv or such

[severe ermine]

and 4k i dont really need

[sacred dirge]

It's pretty noticeable at that point

[severe ermine]

the series x can run 4k at 120 fps right

[patent stream]

Besides the power needed for 4k imo isn’t worth it

[sacred dirge]

I thought it was 60?

[patent stream]

No

[severe ermine]

4k60?

[patent stream]

Yes

It has 1800p 120fps which is like 2k or something

[burnt moss]

Still I bet 60 will feel amazing

[sacred dirge]

It does

[severe ermine]

cant the xbox one x do that?

[sacred dirge]

Especially if you're coming from 30 and 40

[patent stream]

Not a steady frame rate and it’s an upscale 4k

[slow sigil]

Tbf if you are setting like 3 meters away from your tv it's hard to see the difference

[severe ermine]

i can confirm this is true

[slow sigil]

On PC i definitely would, sometimes i see some pixellines on 1080p so 1440p would smooth those out

[severe ermine]

honestly i didnt expect my xbox to run doom

it can barely run roblox at 30 fps

[sacred dirge]

I didn't notice that much of a difference between nightmare and ultra just because the monitor is so close to my face

[slow sigil]

Ngl i dont think most graphic options in eternal do a lot lol

[sacred dirge]

Right?

[nocturne skiff]

i dont even notice the fps since I run it on my PS5

[sacred dirge]

Thought it was just me lol

[slow sigil]

Like i changed (almost) everything from ultra to low and uhhh.... what's the difference?

Ray tracing was cool though, extra reflections

[sacred dirge]

More frames I guess ?

I think I was getting 150 on low

[severe ermine]

is there an fps counter in the settings?

[slow sigil]

Yes

With a buttload of metric options with it like how hard your cpu and gpu are working

You honestly almost can't ask for more

[severe ermine]

what tab in settings is it located in

[slow sigil]

except that FOV is tied to graphics and so so that i have to reset it everytime i change graphics a touch

[slow sigil]

Graphics, somewhere up top i thought?

"Metrics" or something and putting that on low shows FPS

[severe ermine]

i dont think my console actually has that menu

[sleek siren]

Not until you die to the second missions platforming 5 times in a row

[severe ermine]

looking at video rn, i think its because my console isnt the best thing in the world

[burnt moss]

On Xbox?

[slow sigil]

Idk, usually consoles quite limit the graphic options in games

[slow sigil]

I mean, the console shouldve dealt with that. Maybe clean up your console

[burnt moss]

So I can’t see my fps?

[slow sigil]

idk how console handles it

On pc you usually have an fps counter ingame and steam provides one aswell if you want to

[sacred dirge]

I think some consoles mention a cap for some games? Not sure if you're able to look it up

[azure oriole]

ofc i have to die at the last tn ml arena because id left a half done game with these shitty buggy marauders

i want to refund this game only because of those fuckers

[severe ermine]

pro tip: ssg + ballista

also try and learn to one cycle them

i admit i got pissed at the arena with the buff totem

[azure oriole]

why would i when they wont do their fucking green attack because little shitters keep shooting at his shield

[severe ermine]

keep them at mid range and bait them

[azure oriole]

bro did u read my message

[severe ermine]

let them run to you

they do their green eyes when you bait them

[azure oriole]

bro im not new to the game no need to tell me how to play

[sacred dirge]

Skill issue

[slow sigil]

How did the mara bug out?

[severe ermine]

@azure oriole how did you get past the triple marauder part

[azure oriole]

well their eyes flash green for 1 ms then the bring up their shield at my face

[azure oriole]

triple marauder?

[severe ermine]

taras nabad ml?

[azure oriole]

i just slobs one of them and finish them off with stickies or pb ballista

[severe ermine]

whats different with this marauder then

[azure oriole]

that it has some little shitter called gargoyles and soldiers spamming at their shields

[severe ermine]

then get rid of them first and deal with the marauder

[azure oriole]

they infinitely respawn bud

[severe ermine]

ok but didnt you have to face a tyrant and a marauder at the same time earlier in the level

[azure oriole]

yeah thats easy

[severe ermine]

the inf gargoyles and soldiers with shields are just ammo packs

[strange gale]

they're still worth clearing out because they'll respawn somewhere that's not in your face or an instant interruption to the mara

[azure oriole]

ammo packs and free wolf spawns for marauders

[azure oriole]

i guess

[severe ermine]

the wolf only spawns when fire from a demon or slayer hits his shield or you hit his shield too much

[azure oriole]

literally what i just said

[severe ermine]

yeah just kill the gargoyles and face the marauder

this is a normal one right

[azure oriole]

yes

2 of them

[severe ermine]

is it a tight space

[azure oriole]

no but it got alot of stairs which always bugs out marauders

[strange gale]

so then don't lead them to stairs or corners where they can use their magic drifting powers

[azure oriole]

yeah thats what i did then died because skill issues

[flint flame]

Lol

[snow holly]

attempting doom un i am now on exultia time to pray i dont die

[snow holly]

because i would loose an entire 30 minutes of progress

[flint flame]

That’s like… nothing

[snow holly]

ik lol

[strange gale]

30 minutes you could've spent not doing UN attempts

by all means keep going, but 30 minutes is not "nothing"

that is roughly 1/48 of an entire day

[slow sigil]

In the grand scheme of the universe 30 minutes might aswell be nothing 🤓

[strange gale]

holy

[sacred dirge]

That's about as long as my shits are in the morning. I/48th of my day wasted on poopin

[hot tree]

Chad

[azure oriole]

Wdym wasted?
Time well spent

[sacred dirge]

You know what! You guys are right !

I should be proud

[proven swift]

Well pooping is pretty pog though

You can think about all the choices in life you took which led you to that moment

[severe ermine]

what

[snow holly]

especially if it was tacobell

well exultia is done now yay

[azure oriole]

The morning shit is the moment of tranquility before the real shitstorm begins

[sacred dirge]

Truth

[azure oriole]

Amen

[azure oriole]

Good luck in cultist base

[snow holly]

yup ive heard its hard

on un

[timid plank]

I always try to do the hardest difficulty in games but one thing I’ll never do is that “if you die you start over” bullshit

[azure oriole]

Good choice

[hot tree]

Nice stay sane

[valid wren]

same lmao

Unless i play that game for a time, when i know everything that i have to know to beat it

[burnt moss]

Except when they don’t.

[severe ermine]

ong?

[azure oriole]

agreed agreed

[woeful root]

where are photo mode screenshots saved at?

[azure oriole]

i cant believe muricaneagle uses the y button to quick swap on controller

the pain you have to bear to play like that

or maybe he uses paddles idk

[sacred dirge]

As an exclusive controller player. Paddles kinda blow. They really don't feel right for me

[azure oriole]

i would die for a controller with paddles

[sacred dirge]

Normal binds and wheel works just fine

[sacred dirge]

That's what I thought too. So I got em. Stopped using them. Just messes with my muscle memory

[azure oriole]

i hate how you have to leave your thumbstick to click buttons and claw is painful and uncomfortable at some point

[jaunty vapor]

Could be he does claw grip

[azure oriole]

that would be pure torture if he does

[jaunty vapor]

Eh, the more you use claw the easier it gets. At this point it's kind of second nature for me in most games

It's not the most comfortable granted, but I wouldn't say it hurts either

[sacred dirge]

Usually only for jump and binds. But I use tac layout plus only 2 binds with wheel so I'm not leaving the sticks often

[azure oriole]

maybe i have small hands

[sacred dirge]

I don't swap Equipment often either

[sacred dirge]

Could be it. I grew up with the Duke and it mutated mine

[severe ermine]

paddles on doom feel weird

i have buttons for paddles and i cant use them cause im too used to rb switching

[azure oriole]

use them for jumping and dash

[flint flame]

Have you seen a sledgehammer

[severe ermine]

based

[strange gale]

[azure oriole]

ofc pb lockon ballista doesnt stagger pain elementals

heavy demon btw

[strange gale]

...and the only competent aerial enemy

wait that should stagger though

pains stagger after taking 4500 damage and that does 4605

the lost souls around it are eating up some of the damage

[azure oriole]

maybe

[strange gale]

that's the only thing stopping the combo from staggering, aside from missing shots

[severe ermine]

wait can pain elemental die after 2 lock on bursts

[strange gale]

that's 2700*2, obviously

[azure oriole]

i just got hit by a whiplash wave attack while being 50 feet in the air

thats funny

[strange gale]

that's to be expected

[severe ermine]

how much dmg does a frag do fully upgraded

[strange gale]

you can look at the pinned damage spreadsheet to find that out

[severe ermine]

aight thanks

[outer cliff]

[junior juniper]

I have remapped chainsaw to down on the d-pad which lets me use X for ballista. The left stick is also a free weapon spot which I have SSG on

You don't really lose anything with chainsaw on the d-pad since it is easy to put your thumb on the right stick again during invincibility

[azure oriole]

i personally have ssg on right stick and dash on left, melee is on left dpad

[sacred dirge]

I mean if it works for you it works

[azure oriole]

im really used to left hand claw so yeah

[junior juniper]

I like the idea of melee on the d-pad aswell. In order to get another free weapon spot from that I would need to drop the sword from the controller

[azure oriole]

you can drop the mod button

theres no real reason to swap mods if u equip the meta ones

[green phoenix]

So apparently next doom game doomslayer will be slower but stronger so I a, guessing no dash but perhaps triple jumps or instead of jumps he just gets jetpacks

[junior juniper]

That could work but I would really miss lock on and micro missiles

[azure oriole]

only thing i want is that id blurs out the controller limitation for the next game

[azure oriole]

then equip lockon

[junior juniper]

But then there's no remote detonate to play with. But I get your point and I will play around with my options. I really like the idea of melee on the d-pad

[azure oriole]

sure

[timid plank]

Yo I just beat the slayer gate in the mission where you go to arc headquarters where you first see a bunch of tyrants, the adrenaline that was pumping through me was enough to punch a hole through Mars

[sacred dirge]

Noice

[timid plank]

Or punching becomes viable as a weapon

[azure oriole]

doomguy don't like punches

im currently beating nightmare on console and its actually not as painful as some ppl say it is

im only half way through it tho so i cant judge much

[sleek siren]

Why is arc complex the only challenging level for me on nightmare besides the early levels

[azure oriole]

what part you stuck on?

[sleek siren]

I’m not stuck it just takes a few tries to beat parts

[azure oriole]

ah ok

[sleek siren]

Super gore nest took me 2 tries

Arc complex is now 8 those include slayer gates

[azure oriole]

i hated the 3rd slayer gate

[sleek siren]

My first play through is nightmare which I’m still currently doing

[azure oriole]

nice

[sleek siren]

1st gate was the hardest for me and 4th the easiest

[azure oriole]

ive beaten it once before on ultra violence it was kinda ez ngl

[sleek siren]

4th was easiest bc somehow the doom hunter offed himself

[azure oriole]

damn

[sleek siren]

Nightmare imps are a pain especially in 2016

No dash sucked

[azure oriole]

also for some reason i just feel like punching a hole in a wall trying to fight marauders

[sleek siren]

I’m getting real close to facing one I’ll figure it out I suppose

[azure oriole]

ya im still on the arc complex i have been pretty busy

[sleek siren]

Tyrants are probably one of the most tanky but easiest super heavy’s I ever faced

Almost as easy as a regular heavy

Like mancubus

Difficulty?

^

[sacred dirge]

That doesn't matter to much. As long as they enjoyed it

[sleek siren]

I’m not holding it against them lmao I’m just curious

[severe ermine]

i have yet to replay the game on uv

im doing master levels, btw, can you pin master level challenges?

[timid plank]

Y’all think Doom is inappropriate to introduce to my 11 year old brother?

[azure oriole]

as long as hes mature enough its fine

listen man i know 9 yr old that plays this game because of me... i feel guilty

but its fine bc he doesnt mind the blood he just likes the style of the game

[azure oriole]

there's like nothing wrong with playing that game at not good age as long as it doesn't have that other stuff which I'm not gonna name nor say

[timid plank]

Yeah I just don’t know if the gore would be too much

[azure oriole]

Idk... ask him

show him a tiny clip of gameplay and ask if hes fine with it

I don't see it being related to doom eternal nor doom eternal chat

okey. but it is still not related to doom eternal.

wrong chat tho

idk i just joined the server so idk if there even is a chat for that stuff

[sacred dirge]

.....

[sleek siren]

Just killed my first marauder and they’re pretty easy ngl

[azure oriole]

whats the strat

[sleek siren]

…….what am I…. Locking at

[sleek siren]

Idk I just stood mildly far from him then each time he glowed his eyes I comboed him the tutorial did a ssg ballista combo so I did that and it was ez

[azure oriole]

dude ssg and ballista combo carries hard throughout the entire game for me

[azure oriole]

you would need to learn other combos tho

[azure oriole]

ya i need to work on other ones i dont know many at all

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGhLiLpzsEo&t=19s

[sleek siren]

Idk any combos really I just use the power weapons to start off and end off with not so damaging weapons

[azure oriole]

ya tbh i rely on ssg wayyy too much

[sleek siren]

I do to sometimes

Only because of movement and it’s mastery

[azure oriole]

ya

[sleek siren]

Man everyone over hyped the marauder for me lmao

[azure oriole]

I was relying on the SSG/bal combo too. but then I decided to learn all the quickswitching combos and gamesense, and my gameplay has Improved very good. allowing me to beat Ultra Nightmare Within 20 attempts

[flint flame]

Oh hell naw

[azure oriole]

maurader alone is easy but i hate it when there are like at least 10 other demons trying to punch a hole through me

[sleek siren]

Is it possible to be somewhat as fast on controller?

[sacred dirge]

Well they've had 2 years to learn how to melt him. It was something else at launch

[azure oriole]

well I'm not profesional on controller I'm more of a pc player so I have literally no experience with controllers

[timid plank]

Yeah I’ll take a video of me ripping through an arena in Eternal

[sacred dirge]

Yes

I only use a controller. Just takes practice

[sleek siren]

All I knew about the marauder is that people hated him lol

[azure oriole]

ya but it can be annoying when you are switching between more than 3 weapons constay

[sleek siren]

K ig I’ll have to learn like 15 combos now

[sacred dirge]

Wheel swap. It's all practice. It's only annoying if you haven't mastered it yet

[sleek siren]

I think I’m definitely getting better skill wise it’s just sometimes I choke for like no reason

[azure oriole]

Meanwhile me playing 400% defensively on Ultra nigtmare on sin fight choking right into my throat

[azure oriole]

yup

[sacred dirge]

When it comes to wheel swap I recommend 2 swap and focus on those 2. Then add 3 and then so on

Don't try to be a swap master right away. It won't work out

[sleek siren]

Also I have my horizontal sensitivity on max it’s fun

[azure oriole]

ultra nightmare? me beating that gamemode? ya, as if

[azure oriole]

high sensitivity is fun

but not that high damn

[azure oriole]

ultra nightmare ain't that hard if you know what's goin on and have overall mastered every arena and Combo

[sleek siren]

It took me like 2 minutes to get use to it on control

[azure oriole]

do you have to beat it all in one run or can you like go to menu or nah im confused on how ultranightmare works

[azure oriole]

all in 1 run preferably but the game saves after every mission or just alt f4 after every mission if you want to chill out and go outside

It's like hardcore In minecraft but harder

so can i go to menu or do i have to forcefully close the game

[sacred dirge]

Sensitivity in the sticks comes down to your personal stick control. If you use the sticks with a lighter input 100 will work fine for anyone with a harder input I'd go mid. Personally I'm around 85 80

[azure oriole]

I think after each mission you can go to menu. or if you're not too sure after each mission you can task manager preferably

[tribal lily]

Sup

[sleek siren]

Bruh I fast travelled to a location and it put me through the end portal

Now I have to beat half the level again just to do a secret combat

[azure oriole]

alr

[azure oriole]

ive never even used fast travel, bc i dont even know how to ._.

[sleek siren]

At like the very very end of a level you can travel the whole map

You know they tell you at the end of the first mission right

[azure oriole]

ah ok

yaaaa but like i didnt pay attention and i ended up not knowing it had to be at the end of a level

[sleek siren]

I think it also saids in codex or something iirc

[azure oriole]

damn my eyes are actually blind

[azure oriole]

Meanwhile me -40 on left and -28 on right
I am basically blind what to talk about

tf how

[azure oriole]

uncureable disease

i mean my lens are so thick it protrudes outside of my glasses frame

[timid plank]

The first thing I did when I downloaded the game was to increased the sensitivity both ways lol, default was waayyyy too sluggish

[azure oriole]

cus i actually wear glasses

[azure oriole]

I play with default sens 💀

[azure oriole]

pc be like

[azure oriole]

same I need to wear them all the time to see something

[timid plank]

I’m on pc too

[azure oriole]

dude default sens on console is impossible

[azure oriole]

tf

[timid plank]

It’s all down to play style, I like to play fast and jump around a lot, so I can’t play with low sensitivity

[flint flame]

Not funny, didn’t laugh

[last linden]

I was starting Ultra Nightmare today and i got through Hell On Earth pretty easily, and was in the fortress of doom when i figured i'd go back to main menu, but when i tried to it gave me the "Ultra Nightmare only saves progress when complete a mission so if you leave now your save will be deleted." thing. I figured that maybe it was just something it was telling me anyway so i went to menu and it deleted it.

[sleek siren]

I still hate that I have do half of a level for a combat secret

[azure oriole]

what runes do you guys use

[sleek siren]

Bc I got glitched

[timid plank]

Bro it literally told you what it was gonna do lmao

[azure oriole]

wish we could lower the ww delay to lower than 70ms

i use fast glory kill, speed boost a gk, and air movement so the gameplay feels faster

[flint flame]

Doom memes will never be funny

[azure oriole]

savegery, fiend, air control. most popular combo

[azure oriole]

I use savagery ac bf

[timid plank]

The one that stops you from dying, the one that slows down time when you aim in the air and the third one whatever I feel like having at the moment

[azure oriole]

eq fiend like the 2nd most op rune in the game

[last linden]

anyone know why this happened?

[flint flame]

That’s normal lol

[timid plank]

Bro it literally told you what it was gonna do if you quit lmao

[flint flame]

It’s supposed to delete if you leave at any point that’s not after a mission

[azure oriole]

there are 2 options either do it in 1 run or task manager if you want to chill out and relax

[last linden]

i know but i had BEATEN a level

[flint flame]

You have to leave during the points screen

[last linden]

ah i see

[flint flame]

You can’t leave in fortress

[sleek siren]

I use chronos strike (bc I suck) in air mobility and speed boost after a gk

[azure oriole]

wait really? damn I didn't knew that

you cant leave mid level? what kind of bs is that

[timid plank]

Same

[flint flame]

UN

[azure oriole]

yeah ik why cant u

Not Funny Don't repost it

[sleek siren]

UN is suppose to be the embodiment of pain ofc it won’t let you leave that easily

[azure oriole]

not funny, didnt laugh

[flint flame]

I guess because they want to force difficulty in UN to make it stand out from regular nightmare

[azure oriole]

the average original funny text to speech meme videos

[amber mauve]

what is the guys name that talk to doomguy when he enter UAC

[azure oriole]

**unoriginal **

[flint flame]

Intern guy

[azure oriole]

yeah im never touching un campaign

[azure oriole]

intern guy from the dlc is just awesome

[azure oriole]

same

ithought u finished it

hes so cool

werent u on urdak or smth

[azure oriole]

cuz I did It was a pain dying to khan maykr 2 times <:

[sleek siren]

I mean I chose nightmare as my first play and I’m still never gonna touch un

[azure oriole]

I did finished it long time ago I think 7/15/2022 UN finished

[amber mauve]

its good that he didnt die like the guys from serious sam 4

[azure oriole]

am i the only one who sucks ass at bossfights? they are so hard to me for some reason

[azure oriole]

nice

[azure oriole]

Glad was harder than sin fight
Glad Can like 1shot you but sin I think can you but you got much more cover unlike in glad arena

[azure oriole]

fr

[sleek siren]

Doom hunter was ok and marauder (probably not a boss fight) I killed in 30 secs somehow

[azure oriole]

marauder is a mini boss i think

marauder isnt considered as a bossfight

[sleek siren]

Yeah that’s what I thought

[azure oriole]

ya marauder and doom hunter are just minibosses

[azure oriole]

both are easy

there are no mini bosses imo

[azure oriole]

ye

[azure oriole]

Meanwhile spirit buffed marauder. let me introduce myself to you

i still have the holt to finish on un from 3 days ago but ik im gonna choke at the bossfight

[azure oriole]

I won't gonna do TAG 1 on un It's not worth you get some paint skin

[azure oriole]

aka the bugrauder

[azure oriole]

its suprisingly easier than i thought it would be, tho yeah the skin sucks

I mean if you're completionist then yeah but other than that, it's not worth the time spend.

im aboutta hop on doom eternal rn

[sleek siren]

Man now I have to stare at a 9/10 because of a glitch bruh

[azure oriole]

anyway, Imma go to sleep cuz being tired is a good thing g'night.

[sleek siren]

G’night for you cuz for me the sun is right in my face

[azure oriole]

same

[shrewd salmon]

the worst feature of doom eternal is random fodder enemies standing on jump pads

the amount of time I assume its open and enables me to escape only for some mook to block me by standing there at the worst possible time

[azure oriole]

kill

[sleek siren]

Never happens to me

[sullen depot]

Do you need doom 3 bfg edition to get the red classic skin in eternal?

Cuz I have regular doom 3 but I don't see the Bethesda sign in

[azure oriole]

WHY ARE PINKIES THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE

[mental stone]

You hate tiny fingers, eh?

[sleek siren]

2016’s we’re worse trust me

[azure oriole]

this is whats gonna be in my nightmares all night

#screenshots message

[sleek siren]

In 2016 there’s no freeze no dash no meat hook just tryna double jump over or walk around them

[azure oriole]

ya

[sleek siren]

Plus there speed was way more inconsistent

[azure oriole]

whiplashes are even worse for me idk why

[sullen depot]

Spectre whiplashes

[azure oriole]

does having higher fps makes u meathook jump higher?

[sullen depot]

Not sure about that. I do know that having a higher fps increases quickswap speed

[azure oriole]

literally the only way i know how to kill those things easily is the lock on rocket

[azure oriole]

qs meathook yeethook yes

[sleek siren]

Bruh same they literally have aim assist on their ground chain move thing

[azure oriole]

tips on killing whiplash please especially when there are 5 tryna kill me

[sleek siren]

Here’s a tip

If you’re above them

You can kill them way easier

[azure oriole]

everything is easier to kill when in the air

[flint flame]

You need the updated Bethesda version. Afaik, the only way to get it is to get doom 3 on console or pc game pass

The steam version is not updated basically

[sullen depot]

Gotcha

[sleek siren]

Is it just me or are tyrants laughably easy (nightmare)

I think their purpose is just to tank

[sacred dirge]

Also increases enemy speed / engagement pressure

[flint flame]

Fully charged destroyer blade wipes out a whole group

[azure oriole]

bro i dont even know when the last time i used the destroyer blade was

[sleek siren]

What was the hardest slayer gate for everyone here for me the 1st one well atleast on nightmare

[last linden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939360463031009372/1003037679199473734/makesweet-5ojws0.gif

[azure oriole]

Battlemode Slayer be like:

[lucid bolt]

in UV i had no trouble with any of them, in nightmare the 2nd one

[azure oriole]

bro i just forgot it existed ;-;

[flint flame]

First playthrough the Mars core one really messed me up since they introduced the maykr drones and I didn’t know how to counter it. Hardest slayer gate would go to holt

[azure oriole]

the first sgate on un

[timid plank]

Anybody notice the blatant Bloodborne influence with Marauder?

I killed him in 2 tries cause of that

[azure oriole]

i see no correlation

[timid plank]

Parrying with the gun

[patent stream]

Bit of a stretch

[sleek siren]

Ssg ballista combo and the marauder is dead in like 20 seconds

[timid plank]

I mean maybe you guys don’t see it but that’s what came to my mind immediately as soon as I saw the mechanic of stunning him by shooting him at the right time

[timid plank]

I did that unknowingly, simply cause I use ssg + ballista for like everything lmao

[sleek siren]

I figured that out because the tutorial showed me

[azure oriole]

20 seconds is too long

[sleek siren]

Your right like 12 seconds

[azure oriole]

average is 5/7

[sleek siren]

That fast damn

[azure oriole]

well maybe I'm just overtyping cuz my fastest was 8 but average is 7/9 seconds

[azure oriole]

bro what thats insane to me

i can barely do it in 20

[azure oriole]

Welcome to pc gaming

🥲

[sacred dirge]

https://imgur.com/a/io0oYF5

[timid plank]

I wanna use a cheat code but I just wanted to know if once you use a cheat code is it gone forever or can you use it again?

[opal galleon]

Reusable

[azure oriole]

you can use it again

[jaunty vapor]

In fairness even console can kill Marauders fast.

https://youtu.be/aBAZcErkXxs?t=5316

[timid plank]

Oh then I’ll just use the “activate all cheats” lol

Cause I’m going into doom hunter base just to get a sentinel battery and a toy lmao I want it to be as quick as possible

[azure oriole]

Wild, 4.5Second

[azure oriole]

I still can't get the grenade timing right

[grizzled cloak]

do u guys prefer the crucible or the sentinel hammer

[azure oriole]

Hammer

[severe ermine]

or you can one cycle but i just do the ssg ballista method in like 5 cycles

[grizzled cloak]

and why is that

[azure oriole]

Overall, the Sentinel Hammer is a versatile weapon that can be used much more liberally and stylishly than the Crucible. It can give the Slayer extra resources, leave powerful enemies vulnerable for retaliation, or just clear out a horde of demons when he needs some breathing room. Straight from google cuz I"m lazy

Crucible is just get out I don't want to arch you and after that it's pretty boring

[jaunty vapor]

Tbh both are kinda "boring", but Crucible is the obviously boring weapon since there's more or less no depth to the weapon from a casual (or rather, a "non speedrun" perspective)

Sentinel doesn't exactly have "much" depth either but it has a BIT more since it actually asks the player to do something to get the resource back, rather than just being a pickup and blah blah

Hammer is a bit too OP OP PLZ NERF so it's a bit boring in that aspect, but it IS fun to use whereas Crucible is... not

[azure oriole]

With sentinel hammer I have those strikes of adrenaline and dopamine when I'm at 2hp and 5spirit demons attack me and I strike them down and replenish everything

[cyan frigate]

made me laugh irl very epic

[severe ermine]

crucible is just a get out of fight free card

bfg maybe but it doesnt kill everything (specifically tyrants)

[cyan frigate]

counter argument:it looks cool so its better. no but in all seriousness i wish there was a sort of perry system with it somehow, and more ways to get a crucible charge. every 100 demons killed or something idk

[azure oriole]

destroy 8weakpoints to refill 1 charge.

[cyan frigate]

for crucible being as strong as it is, i think 8 weakpoints may be too low. then again 2 weakpoints for hammer is too low imo too haha. so yeah, screw it lmao

[azure oriole]

we can add 4 more so it adds up to 12 but then to refill 3 of them you would need to destroy 36 instead of 24

[cyan frigate]

better^ 😃

[grizzled cloak]

tbh i think the sentinel hammer should a have regenerating charge like the chainsaw, but is extremely slower

[cyan frigate]

counter argument: Crucible chainsaw. i dont care what it does but it sounds so cool lmao

[patent stream]

Id be down for the crucible to be more dynamic and act as the chainsaw

[azure oriole]

but for destroying 64 Weakpoints you would get full refil for crucible

and did you knew that a robot and a robot can't have emotions

[flint flame]

Void creating his own doom lore

[azure oriole]

watch out for monologue to appear from out of nowhere confirming that what he said was true

[sacred dirge]

Gert is love

[grizzled cloak]

new piece of lore, doomguy killed the dark lord and was sent to the shadow realm

[azure oriole]

but doomguy was in hell already?

[burnt moss]

I said this the other day! I hate having to pull it out and then use it

[severe ermine]

what do the disks mean on the computer in doomguys mancave?

[azure oriole]

doom 95 and doom 2 if you ask in his pc

[severe ermine]

i have doom 2 but how do i unlock doom 1

nvm imma look on yt

[wraith sail]

Get all the cheatcodes

[severe ermine]

oh wow

great i think need 4 more

[wraith sail]

Also is it normal to skip the pain elemental fight in the start of Arc complex master level?

[burnt moss]

I hated The Sightless Judge without gyro aiming 😦

[wraith sail]

ok

[burnt moss]

I’m trying to re-learn aiming without gyro and it’s awful

[azure oriole]

btw first time I played DE in pc was with aim assist
and I didn't know that I had it enabled 💀 💀

[burnt moss]

Aim assist helps me though. Esp with arachnotrons. Do you really think I’d do better without?

[azure oriole]

I turned off AA when I had 50hours on the count and I Improved

[burnt moss]

Alright, it is off. We will see how it goes haha

[azure oriole]

Missing shots *let me Introduce myself to you

[severe ermine]

i improved with AA off on controller

although i do sometimes miss the occasional ballista shot

[eager helm]

Rip

[azure oriole]

i was about to complain about how AA off on console would be hell but i just realized ive been playing without it this entire time on accident. oops

so thats why my ballista shots miss sometimes

[sacred dirge]

You eventually want it off or low anyways. Well done

[wraith sail]

Same I didn't know my AA was on when I first started

[burnt moss]

Just go to general and you might be ok talking about it

[burnt moss]

I thought you said it’s better?

[azure oriole]

cuz it is

[burnt moss]

Then why are you saying I’m about to miss a bunch of shots?

[azure oriole]

cuz my foreshadowing says that you will miss your shots

[urban sapphire]

any tips for the cube boss in the first dlc idk if i should ignore all the demons and focus on the cubes or kill them

whats pb

[azure oriole]

Precision bolt

[urban sapphire]

is that just what the ammos called

[burnt moss]

Why would you tell me to do something that will make me miss more shots?

[azure oriole]

Cuz *out of argument I know

[urban sapphire]

any other tips i really struggle with 2nd phase

[burnt moss]

Just don’t get impatient and take too many risks

[urban sapphire]

ok

god damn it bruh i just keep getting hit with all these fodder plus the cubes its too much to handle

[sage glen]

what difficulty are you playing on? There's no shame in turning it down in order to get the basic flow of the fight, when you feel comfortable with the flow of the fight, you can always turn it back up then

[urban sapphire]

im on hurt me plenty but there it gets shameful to me when i lower the difficulty

[azure forum]

@azure oriole

Hi

[tame mango]

bruh

[dense vale]

Hey all, I've had this nagging thought in my head for a bit that I really wanted to share with the Eternal community specifically. Anyone mind if I put in a particularly long message about my theory about Novik's "they're not your people" speech?

[tame mango]

did you really ping yourself

[azure forum]

Go ahead. If it is doom related, some people in here like to discuss about eternal lore and such.

[dense vale]

Awesome, thanks :)

So Novik's projection is sitting in his throne and says a few things that just seems totally backwards to everything else. I think this speech is not a remonstrance; I think it's more along the lines of guidance.

"You cannot kill the priests, you know our laws... They are still of sentinel blood" is talking about how they cannot be killed without their little coins because their souls are protected - a power that, by law of their position, the priests possess. "What you interfere with now is bigger than you can imagine." There's still that voice that says "No!" When he kills the Kahn Makyr, this may be what is alluded to. "It is their time to give penance." Meaning the priests, in a reversal from the priests telling others to give penance. "They are no longer your people to save." The priests again - since Novik knighted DoomGuy into The Slayer, he became one of the Argent D'nur elite protectors, the Night Sentinels, but the priests no longer earn that protection. That ending with The Slayer turning back would be in surprise that Novik has officially condemned the priests, or possibly indicating that he understands the edict.

Still a little unsure about his curiosity in "Why are you here?" (As opposed to... The Betrayer, perhaps?) "It is not yours to take" it's commander Valen's, who still has the power supply for that Celestial locator.

This is a pretty classic case of the Pronoun Game, as Griff from RvB sorta called it. Intentionally ambiguous and potentially misleading while being apparently obvious.

"You cannot kill the Priests. You know our laws - despite their transgressions against the covenant they are still of Sentinel blood. What you interfere with now is bigger than you can imagine. It is written, it is their time to give penance - if you continue you will bring down the heaven's wrath. You are but one man - they are no longer your people to save!"

For context.

[azure oriole]

Very interesting interpretation of Novik's speech.

I'm not sure I agree, but I see very little analysis of Doom's dialogue and whatnot here, so I commend it either way. Novik's speech is nice, and gives me a nice feeling of what it must have been like to be Doomguy in Argenta culture when it was in its prime.

[dense vale]

Thanks, I appreciate it! Yeah, the dude's got some serious gravitas going for him. I can see why the Night Sentinels respected him as King.

Whether or not the theory is close or way off base, it's fun to think about :) . Anyway, happy to have joined the community and am looking forward to learning and possibly contributing!

[azure oriole]

Very cool to hear! If you are ever curious about lore or confused about part of it, feel free to ping me or take a look at the Doom lore guide I wrote and have pinned in this chat.

[dense vale]

Will do! And thanks again :)

[timid plank]

I only have one weapon mod left to unlock, and im about to start taras nabad mission. should i unlock it through the fortress or do we get another one in the missions?

[dry perch]

pretty sure there isnt any more weapon mods after taras nabad

[timid plank]

is there one in taras nabad?

[dry perch]

lemme check

[burnt moss]

There are no extra mods in the game

[dry perch]

no

[flint flame]

Check the fortress as there are 2 mod bots

[timid plank]

oh ok cool, thanks

yeah i only have one left unopened. also, do we get like 12 more praetor suit upgrades in the last 2 missions? cause that's how much i have left to finish the wheel

[dry perch]

u get more in the doom fortress

[flint flame]

Yeah there’s a billion praetor upgrades, and you get some for completing mission challenges

Complete 3 mission challenges in a map and you get a sentinel battery

[timid plank]

i only have 2 more suit upgrades left in the fortress

[dry perch]

that means 10 more left

[timid plank]

overall, all i have left in the fortress is 2 suit upgrades and 1 weapon mod

and the unmaykr

[dry perch]

u can replay missions if u want

[dry perch]

unmaykr poopy xd

[timid plank]

meh, the slayer gates are fun to do at least

[dry perch]

true

[near root]

What does the Slayer use the gauntlet studs for

[tame mango]

#bringbackthecor you imposter

🧀🐱

[timid plank]

is there a third person mod for the game out there? i dont wanna play it like that, just wanna see how certain animations of doom guy look from that view

[dry perch]

yes

u can see them in battlemode

[timid plank]

true

i really suck at battlemode though haha

[dry perch]

haha lol no one plays that mode anyways

[strange gale]

haha LAAAWL

[vast kettle]

doom eternal RTX looks the same without it

Kinda disappointing ngl

This game looks fucking beautiful

was hoping it'd look better with RTX

[warped sage]

Changes in reflections but that’s just it, and it doesn’t look that significant especially on how since this is a fast-paced game, it’s unlikely that you’ll catch all the details.

[vast kettle]

Yeah it feels so slight, it doesn't actually feel like a big enough difference for the performance cost

[azure oriole]

It is intriguing but I dare assume the meanings are the most obvious here:
their time = humans' time
they are not your people to save anymore = humans aren't your people to....

[azure oriole]

RTX affects reflections only and they do change drastically, but you need to have visible reflections ofc.
The biggest difference is - apart from higher quality - that reflections are no longer tied to what's visible in screen space.
You look down on a puddle and you can see the reflection of what's above and your own reflection.

Screen space reflections that the game uses without RT are indeed tied to what's visible on screen (and often optically inaccurate and grainy)
Also big world objects seem to use cubemap reflections, as usual. These remain visible even if the object is off camera but are very static.

[vast kettle]

Yeah I have a basic understanding of what RTX is

I know why it's much harder to run.
it has to render what you're also not seeing.
Normally in a game what you're not seeing is unloaded.

[warped sage]

Games like Quake II looks different with RTX enabled, but I think it’s due to how it’s an old game. I’m not really sure however.

[azure oriole]

not exactly but rather the entire rendering process is different. Ray tracing involves a whole bunch of complex calculations traditional rasterization doesn't do

[azure oriole]

Quake 2 uses a path traced renderer, meaning everything is handled with ray tracing (shadows, lighting, reflections...).
Most RT games these days still use hybrid solutions like Doom Eternal, where something is done via RT and the rest is still traditional raster techniques

[slow sigil]

Blood punch i'm fairly certain, maybe absorbing of energy

[azure oriole]

Ofc Quake 2 rtx also looks vastly different than vanilla because practically all assets are changed

[near root]

That makes sense
I just thought it was for blunt force, or those rolos chocolates

[azure oriole]

punch someone with studs and it leaves a way bigger dent than without...

[warped sage]

So that’s why.

[vast kettle]

You seem very informed on this subject

[azure oriole]

btw quake 2 rtx, if you revert to default OpenGL renderer, works as a really decent and authentic source port of q2

quake 2 is quite smooth at 1000 fps, lols

[azure oriole]

I've been following PC tech for more than 30 years so I try to stay somewhat informed.
I'm not an expert on rendering or RT though in any way.

but real time ray tracing is kind of the "holy grail" of rendering. We are on the verge of making that happen.
On the verge because current solution is actually a hybrid one (ray tracing + denoising pass on shaders) and the perf cost is still quite massive

You can actually turn the Denoiser off in q2 rtx and see what the image would look like after ray tracing only. Still very grainy and full of mistakes.
Quake 2 uses 2 rays per pixel for RT pass. For comparison Metro Exodus uses 1 ray per pixel.

It was postulated way back in the 80s that ray traced imaging would need 16 rays per pixel to catch all information.
So you can get from this that we are still quite ways from pure real time RT

Add to that modern high resolutions of 1080p and above and you can get how insanely computationally intensive it gets.
Even at 1080p = 2 073 600 pixels x 16 = 33 177 600 rays per each image shown on screen

I kill chat with jargon, yesh!

[slow sigil]

Can't wait for ray tracing to be the norm

Making games should be quite faster then right

[vast kettle]

I can't wait for pcs that can run ray tracing to be the norm

[slow sigil]

Well thats kinda what i said

[azure oriole]

yes, instead of having to place "fake" lights everywhere, you have unified RT pass that does lighting, reflections and shadows

[slow sigil]

gotta make fake lights
bake lighting in textures around the light
fake reflections

[azure oriole]

well, implementing illumination part of rendering is notably faster, ofc there's a shit ton of other stuff in game development that doesn't change

[vast kettle]

I got a 3070 but I still don't have Ray Tracing on for the sake of performance

I guarantee when the 50 series comes out it'll be easy to run

[azure oriole]

yeah all that. Though pre-baked lighting isn't mandatory even without RT, PBR can be used with "fake" global illumination just as well and it has been used for some time now

PBR = physically based rendering, where textures are given material properties for roughness etc, determining how light should interact with surfaces (reflect, refract, bounce)

[humble ruin]

Anyone know why when I booted up my ultra nightmare save after dying I had spawned at my last spawn point with no gun on hell on earth?

[azure oriole]

Sounds like classic Bethesda to me m8 sry

[humble ruin]

It's fine just a few mins wasted is all rlly

[azure oriole]

I feel ya good luck btw I can barely play on hurt me plenty

Ultra nightmare seems like hell

[azure oriole]

when you die on ultra nightmare your save should get deleted

[humble ruin]

I finished nightmare so the only difference Is I can't die or I go all the way back

[azure oriole]

Based

the no gun spawn usually happens if you try to "cheese" death in UN

like alt f4 the game while at low health in combat

[marsh canopy]

just beat trial of the dark lord... they sent 5 marauders at me at once

there is no bfg

have u ever played trial of the dark lord?

its intesnse. they send marauders and blood maykrs, 2 possessed archviles at once, stuff like that

oh

u should try it lol

bruh thats not how it works

bruh

[humble ruin]

I'm living in the you have died screen rn

[azure oriole]

wdym game updates often break mods until the mods are updated too

not that any updates to the game are expected anymore

okay "corrupt files" is not gonna happen really

you can always restore unmodded content with modinjector

as long as the game was 100 % unmodded when you first ran modinjector and took the backups

that said I recommend using separate save slots for modded / unmodded content

[strange gale]

trying to run backups from an older patch on current patch tends to break shit, so yes that is how it works

[azure oriole]

yeah if your backups are from older version of game, that won't work.

I just woke up from after I stayed whole night

[humble ruin]

Have any of y'all completed the summer event for doom eternal?

[marsh canopy]

u mean unlock all the stuff?

i unlocked it all in like 2 days lol

[humble ruin]

Ye

[azure oriole]

Yeah, trash stuff

[marsh canopy]

only thing i use is the hotrod combat shotgun skin

[humble ruin]

Fair

[humble ruin]

Fr

[weary perch]

Hi

[timid plank]

Guys do I have to play all 63 Dooms to play Doom 64

[slow sigil]

No you can safely skip over 7, 8, 9, 16, 32, and 56

Those arent part of the main multiverse plotline and arebt really great games either

Well except 16 that one is a banger, really a top 10 of doomgames albeit the story is shit

[azure oriole]

That is absolutely wrong and I think you should reflect over how dumb of a statement that is. Doom 32 is very important to the overarching story, especially with how it connects to Doom 35

[slow sigil]

It literally connects with 1 jokeline wdym

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/get-fucked-dennis-reynolds-iasip-sunny-gif-25181021

[slow sigil]

Also ngl 47's plot with reviving commander keen only to just kill him 8 minutes later was.... off

Like i get that they wanted to establish alisha as a character but... yeah no

[coarse cove]

Horohorohorohorohorohoro as a mii costume

[azure oriole]

but you have to admit, Betruger showing up to kill him from dimension of the past was kinda badass

I finally learned how to yeethook

[slow sigil]

Well yeah but like, they just threw away their main plotline of having to revive keen

[azure oriole]

Yes of course. You also have to play all games from 65 to 2015 before you can play 2016

[slow sigil]

Nah ID fucked up naming after doom 59

[azure oriole]

Imagine if there were, in fact, 2016 doom games...

[slow sigil]

Doom 1-59, then you got 64, 60, (cause why the f not ig) and then it jumped to the doom annihilation movie, 2016, eternal, tag

Waiting for the next doom

[azure oriole]

You forgot Doom 69: The Funny Sex Number

[slow sigil]

Weird how they waited this long to make what happened between 40 and 44 storywise all the way till eternal and 2016

[slow sigil]

I would like to keep forgetting that one ty

[azure oriole]

Weird how they renamed that game and just slapped an H before it.

[azure oriole]

yeah and used the age old og doom engine too

[azure oriole]

I replay it from time to time

[slow sigil]

Well yeah cause you're a sick, sick man

[azure oriole]

bro im tryna learn some stuff abt doom on nightmare like which gun switch combos are best for some demons but everything on youtube is just like plain info and it wouldnt even help in most scenarios

i can tell you some of them

yes pls

tell me which demon do u struggle the most with

100% archville

combo for archie is lock on or just freeze and slob

combo for tyrant the easiest is pb/slob

combo for arachno is pb/bal or pb/ssg for me

ssg deadswaps 2 shots them

for pain elementals double arbalest or pb ballista

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGhLiLpzsEo

[azure oriole]

Explains everything

quickswitching hard on console :((( but ill try

it feels so slow for some reason

its not that hard actually

ya it's probably just a skill issue of mine

ill tell u the trick, basically you press the the ww button as soon as you shoot

ill show u a short video rq

https://youtube.com/shorts/Dve5zDhmwlw?feature=share @azure oriole just like that, you can use remote detonation instead of lock on burst so u can just hold the left trigger but i recommend learning how to that with lock on after u get the hang of it

with pb rocket

[azure oriole]

[azure oriole]

2 shots what?

arachnatrons

[azure oriole]

decent basic quickswap guide. Pb rocket could be way faster though

Yo

[azure oriole]

It was the guide I learned from and my pb rocket Improved since

[azure oriole]

tooting my own horn but a clip of pb rocket (and I mess it up still sometimes)
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5UphprRvxY5NHcGenm6n3hx6USYSiIl1

[azure oriole]

the same with mine but I am a bit slower but still decently fast sadly still sometimes I don't shoot PB and mess up

[azure oriole]

yeah missfiring pb is my problem too, especially under pressure

pb rocket is a forgiving combo though in the sense it can be done at varying speeds, unlike pb sticky which practically needs optimal timing

Pb sticky for me is like playing doom for first time

(also no I didn't clip my own video because I'm some master quick swapper, rather to show how fast pb rocket can be and as it happens I can find stuff faster from my own content, xd)

[azure oriole]

oh ya time to get use to a new grip

[azure oriole]

It's not a very crucial combo to learn but it is useful in early campaign and for clearing fodder mobs

i still use the "standard" controller grip and it really limits me

[azure forum]

PB rocket is extremely easy to do when using Remote Det (not saying that you should use it)

[azure oriole]

yeh you can hold down alt fire that way

I died to a marauder

[slow sigil]

The only reason to "use" rem det is for easier swaps

[azure oriole]

learning claw clawgrip on right hand rn

kinda hurts my pinky finger since its the only thing supporting my controller from the back

i personally have jump on L1 and my flame belck, grenade, gren swap on dpad that way i dont have to claw with my right hand

i would recommend to bind jump to l1 and not play claw with your right hand

[honest locust]

I kept everything defaulted

I don't know why but I can't learn binds very easily

[azure forum]

Takes time, but it is much better. Default controllers are bad imo

At least from a controller perspective

[quaint wren]

Hey if anyone can help me in #tech-talk, would love that <3

[azure oriole]

alr ill try this setup so far jump on l1 is just so much better

[azure forum]

The only problem that I've personally found with setting grenade and Flame B in the dpad is that you have to remove your thumb from the movement thumb stick

But they are single press actions so they can be set in dpad

[azure oriole]

i use my index finger to press those buttons when im in the air

you can get away easily by using claw with ur left hand unlike the right one because you have to constantly use the firing and ww button

this is my new setup its a lot better for me

#screenshots message

since im right handed i put the more used items on the abxy buttons for easier access

oh i forgot xbox controllers got the left joystick above the dpad

ya its really dumb

im gonna have to play on ultra violence for a while to get use to the controls

[violet zealot]

Hmm, now I remember why my hand cramps every time I used an xbox controller for FPS games

Also if you did not try this

In the settings there should be an option to lower the delay of the weapon wheel

helps with switching on controllers

[azure oriole]

REALLY?

where is it

[violet zealot]

In controls

Console got unlucky, you can only lower it to 70

But it’s better than nothing

[azure oriole]

yes

dude how did i not know about this before

[violet zealot]

I only found out about it today tbh

[azure oriole]

damn

[violet zealot]

Got bored and scrolled through the settings mindlessly

[azure oriole]

before i used default settings for everything

i didnt even bother looking at the options

[burnt moss]

I have a hard time pressing for any less time than that

[violet zealot]

I use 70 delay, also I borrowed someone’s settings and binded my grenade switch to L3 on my controller (Playstation person here lol)

[timid plank]

I can’t imagine playing doom with controllers lol

[violet zealot]

It’s more than possible

[green phoenix]

Thoughts on a demon that has the ability to snatch the weapon you are using and can use it against you ? I find it would be pretty neat a demon snatches the weapon you are using forcing you to use a gun you may or may not Ike

[sacred dirge]

That would be ass

[red stirrup]

is there a bug report channel?

[sacred dirge]

You don't have to imagine. I'll show you

[timid plank]

I can’t imagine *myself playing doom with controllers

[sacred dirge]

It's kinda my whole gimmick

[slow sigil]

Sounds kinda ass, just make it so that certain weapons are better against that demon (NOT the only realistic option)

And even then, there is 3 great weapons in eternal, and 2 very decent ones. So even it 1 gin got disabled that doesnt mean anything

(Hc is "decent" cause it's only really for swaps but you can also punchswap)

[granite scaffold]

Hey

[brittle quest]

If only a heatblast with global cooldown existed, and possessed demons weren't so reliant on mbeam 😔

[slow sigil]

Tbf i'm ok with spirits really ONLY being killable by mbeam because you arent using heatblast anyways lol

If it was about as gkod as stickies spirits would be shit thoufh

[azure forum]

I'm OK with Mbeam as well, but I hate how they had to add more specific Weapon demons later on just to promote a bad weapon mod

[slow sigil]

Stimps are basically spirits but they try to make you stop using an actual good weaponmod

mqybe instead of adding enemies weak to just 1 weapon they should instead just fucking buff the weapons in the first place to make everything balanced, hmmm

[azure oriole]

yeah stimps are like the worst designed demon in the game

[azure oriole]

Or at least make using that specific mod recommended rather than required.

Just do the Maykr Drone thing, if you use full-auto you get more resources and if you don't then you don't.

[plush trout]

You guys think it is worth to play the game again after like half a year pause?

Cause like you have to teach yourself so much again

[cloud crescent]

I quit and pick up games months later. Muscle memory is still there. takes me about a half hour to get back into the flow.

[plush trout]

thanks guys, imma start it rn

[slow sigil]

But it'll come back wayyy faster

[azure oriole]

bro 20 mins after the switching to a new controller grip and new controls im already doing better than i was before

doom is a lot more interesting like this

[timid plank]

Every once in a while I see some combat footage from Doom 2016 and it’s jarring how slow and not fluid it is compared to eternal

[quiet ridge]

Who decided to put 2 marauders in the same room in the super gore nest master level

[burnt moss]

First time?

[slow sigil]

Someone who knows you can just eadily 2cycle the first one before the second one evne reaches you
Or use the quad damage powerup from the room before

[azure oriole]

what are good marauder 2 cycles

[slow sigil]

2 cycles? Almost fucking anything

Bal-ssg-bal us the most braindead, easiest one

Pb-bal is better

[azure oriole]

im a new player thx

[slow sigil]

But just do lock on 1 cycles tbf

[edgy vapor]

was the super jump glitch patched long ago? is there any way you can skip levels now?

[jaunty vapor]

Yes, slope boosting was patched forever ago.

Yes, there's countless ways to "skip levels", or at least portions of levels.

[slow sigil]

Slope boosting EVERYTHING is boring anyways

[edgy vapor]

tutorial somewhere?

[jaunty vapor]

The "easiest" skills you can use to skip certain areas/levels would.ve Pause Boosts and Pet Caco.

https://youtu.be/QAtCM4XMELI

https://youtu.be/hyNVrW21j5A

[edgy vapor]

thanks ill check it out

[azure oriole]

[jaunty vapor]

If you REALLY wanna figure stuff out I'd recommend checking the speedrunning discord, it has a bunch of clips and resources for different skips

But the two above work on current patch and are very easy to do/learn

[jaunty vapor]

Much like PB rocket, I love that most people just assume slope boosting itself would make the game easy even though there's a lot more that can go into certain levels/setups. But most people probably only see the one run and think "easy peasy he did it in 5 minutes"

[strange gale]

now land 15 consecutive setups to get even a semi-competent run

even getting a single good slopeboost doesn't happen instantly

[quiet ridge]

I beat them but them but the actual area where you need to put the keys is fucking miserable

6 tyrants and 3 archviles is ridiculous

I’m taking a break from the master levels for now

[strange gale]

you can't just spam scroll because that reduces your height gain

you can't run the game at too high a framerate or you get too much height

you can disqualify an entire run by fucking up a slopeboost and flying oob

etc

[quaint wren]

Hey guys, would really appreciate some advice because I am lost now.
Upon starting Doom it gets to the loading screen and says 'Teleporting' in the bottom left, it then freezes (with the audio still playing sometimes)
I have unplugged my second monitor, started the game in windowed mode, changed the resolution of my monitor and game, done a complete reinstall, delete the id Software file, deleted the Vulkan-1.dll file and done a complete Vulkan reinstall, verified game files, Drivers are up to date (I'm Nvidia), ray-tracing is not enabled upon startup, tried '+com_skipintrovideo 1' as a launch option.

I've tried literally everything I can think of other than updating the bios of my motherboard which I really don't see as a viable solution.
CPU and Memory usage is nowhere near to 100% whilst Doom is in this frozen state.

I have ran this game before on my PC, I completed it shortly after its original launch and it ran smoothly, I've purchased the DLC and now want to go back through the game.
This does not happen with any other game including other Vulkan games

[azure oriole]

taras nabad done on un

chaingun shield is broken asf

when was the last time you guys actually used micro missles

[timid plank]

When you guys memed me into thinking they’re actually good

[azure oriole]

have you tried turning it on and off?

[azure oriole]

jkjk

[quaint wren]

I'm literally listening to the soundtrack in place of playing the game

That's how bad I need my fix :(

[azure oriole]

sorry i cant rlly help bc i play console not pc :(

[strange gale]

dopamine addiction

[timid plank]

It be like that though, I’d be outside doing things and suddenly get the urge for that dopamine release from fighting in a big arena with tons of enemies

[quaint wren]

I know it won't work but I'm almost at the point of updating my bios just to try and get this fucking game to work

Literally tried every single thing

[edgy vapor]

does playing ancient gods 2 without having done part 1 make any difference?

[azure oriole]

storywise yes

[azure oriole]

dude idk much abt pc bc im a normie console user but i would like put all my important stuff on a drive and just restart the entire thing if you really that desperate. idk tho cus im not good at that stuff

[azure oriole]

ancient gods 2 is easier than part 1 lol but there are some demons you might not know how to deal with from part 1

ya

[quaint wren]

I'd have to buy an extra 3TB of storage to back my stuff up and then spend the next couple days downloading like everything lol

Nah, unfortunately I'm not that desperate

[azure oriole]

damn alr

[marble cedar]

Hoi

[azure forum]

Thay new quake con skin looks really nice

[azure oriole]

"New"

[timid plank]

Is ancient god 1 + 2 worth the 40 bucks total?

As in is there enough gameplay to warrant it

[azure oriole]

There's a lot of fun to be had with it, though you should get the year 1 pass instead as it includes both dlc for 30 bucks

[timid plank]

Oh yeah I’ll do that instead, that’s a good idea

[azure oriole]

Came out two years ago

[azure forum]

I don't have it

[azure oriole]

So it’s new for you, not new

[azure forum]

You get the point

[azure oriole]

Yuh

[azure forum]

That skin was one of the first ones then to be released. I started playing back in December 2020

[azure oriole]

Log in and get a free skin

[tame mango]

#freethecor

hi

[gray rivet]

Hallo

[tame mango]

hey periphery

what's your favorite video game

[native mango]

demons are pretty cool

[tame mango]

true...

[azure oriole]

whats your guys fav skin for the slayer

[tame mango]

2 farcor alts😡

[gray rivet]

Daemons

[azure oriole]

u can buy the year one pass to get both of them for 30 buckaroos

yo what i just got a quakecon skin or smt

[severe ermine]

is the seraphim a maykr?

if so are there 4 or 5 makyr types

[high yacht]

Im pretty sure it is

[alpine plaza]

I hate blood maykrs i hate blood maykrs i hate blood maykrs

The most annoying enemy in the game

[azure oriole]

Archville and spectral whiplashes + those fodders who are somehow there. let us introduce ourself

[severe ermine]

ong

oh yeah i forgot archie and the whiplash spectres

i hate them much more than the pinky spectres

[burnt wraith]

Hi

[jaunty vapor]

Tbh specter Whiplashes arent all that either since they die to 2 charge dblade

[severe ermine]

oh i always 1 charge it

no wonder why they dont die 💀

[jaunty vapor]

I believe 2 charge puts them to glory kill if not kills them.

3 charge definitely kills them

[azure oriole]

I literally forget to use dblade

I forgot that it existed

[severe ermine]

its good for clearing out stuff if you are overwhelmed (specifically fodder)

[jaunty vapor]

Even aside from dblade being great in most situations, specter Whiplashes are usually MADE for Dblade use. Most of the time you can hit all or most of them when they're in a room without much hassle

[severe ermine]

i mean i usually just used ballista ssg spam on the spectres

[azure oriole]

I bully them with a chaingun shield

[severe ermine]

ballista ssg spam works against everything ❤️

[marsh canopy]

how do people skip the pb cooldown by punching?

[severe ermine]

i never use chaingun shield

is its only use faltering?

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV54A3lrXh8

[marsh canopy]

ty

[severe ermine]

and i should use it the most against super heavies excluding marauder

[azure oriole]

no... it is a 360 Bubble Invicibilty for 5seconds I think

so If you are in very risky situation you pop it or when you are out from gk you can pop it too

[severe ermine]

mastery is useful right

[azure oriole]

I don't even rmber what mastery of it does

Mastery launches the shield after you deal enough damage, acts as another falter basically

[jaunty vapor]

The inputs are

Shoot -> punch -> weapon bind for PB -> shoot

Repeat.

This probably isn't technically right, but you can basically imagine you're "quick swapping" between punch and the same weapon you used before the punch

Technically you can punch swap to another weapon and/or weapon mod cancel some stuff but then we're really getting to some convoluted stuff

[crimson yarrow]

Here's the thing about full-auto

If we can agree that DPS matters more than ammo cost, then we should also agree that this weapon mod is good

Because it has about triple the DPS of sticky bombs and about double that of even the super shotgun