classic-doom-maps-mods

[haughty flower]

i'm just gonna try the mapping thing tomorrow, i feel all unmotivated today for some reason

[glacial skiff]

@haughty flower Treat the level as a series of interesting choices the player is presented with and go from there

[haughty flower]

by "choices" do you mean like, have branching paths and have the player choose which ways to go? or am i misunderstanding

@glacial skiff

[haughty flower]

Have it be kinda like a sandbox, have multiple places to explore. Only one way might have the key, but by going the other ways that aren't the "Main Way" you can get weapons and ammo and more baddies to shoot and sights to see.

And dont lounge on secrets, either. 2-3 per level should be good, but at minimum try to have one in a level.

thanks for the advice! tomorrow i'll try making a map like that and hopefully it'll turn out good

👌

though it'll probably be pretty easy, because i'm sorta kinda... not that great at doom lol

I cam barely finish doom 2 without issue so I feel you

but i'm still gonna make that map cuz i have a weird obsession with making levels for every game ever

I always liked level creation so me and doom mix like peanut butter and marshmallow
(Which is actually a very yummy combination I highly reccomend.)

i've had peanut butter and marshmallow before and it's weird and incredible and i love it

Same tho

maybe i should get started on that map now

i'm feeling an odd burst of motivation

Food motivation activate

Food motivation!

[idle shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796046021581996082/796574802532892672/unknown.png

^trying to go all out with the third episode of the wad im working on

[haughty flower]

woah

wait why are there crosses if there's also demons everywhere

[idle shuttle]

shit there supposed to be upside-down but i guess the closeted christian within took over

perfection

[haughty flower]

maybe you could make some cool like cinematic thing where they slowly turn upside-down all ominously

like you hit a switch and the door opens and the crosses turn upside-down and its SpOoKy

[idle shuttle]

that would be better in a more enclosed area where you may actually notice it but nice idea

[glacial skiff]

re: choices: I think you should treat keys as suggestions rather than requirements

A key may open an optional path that makes the level easier in some way, but the hard way is always there if you dare

[haughty flower]

aight for some reason some walls in my map are like invisible to the enemies

like the wall is there, but a chaingunner on the other side can see through it and shoot you through it

no wait nvm im just being stupid lol

yep i fixed it, no worries

[haughty flower]

what's the difference between 'DR' and 'D1' doors

[coarse yarrow]

DR is able to be used infinitely
D1 can only be used once

[haughty flower]

oh that makes sense

also how do you do the thing where there's water and things kinda sink in to it a little

[coarse yarrow]

Tried to get that working myself, no fucking clue.

[haughty flower]

alright sorry for all the questions but i have one more: how do you make the wall textures kinda slide across the walls?

ill try to find an example quick incase that explanation was crappy

like if you go to this spot in e1m1 you'll see the texture is moving

[bold sage]

im gonna steal that idea take inspiration

[bold sage]

its when u right click on a sidedef

its in the part where theres like door triggers

[haughty flower]

the "Special" thing?

yep found it

turns out i forgot to check the thing labeled "Scrollers"

[haughty flower]

I was asleep when you asked this so mb but I have an old explanation really far up you can see with this link: #classic-doom-maps-mods message

[haughty flower]

yo i stayed up til like 5 am last night making my map and the result is not good

like i don't know how tired i was, but none of this makes sense and why did i build it

Raw deal.

somehow i managed to make this cool crack design in the floor

so so far staying up all night making a map has led to:

• enhanced creativity
• dank memes in the files

• the worst feeling ever im so tired
  noted.

[novel sand]

I'm interested, let me know if you manage to cobble together enough people. If not, we could always just do an episode or something.

[haughty flower]

i'm an amateur builder except im so amateur that i have no talent

[novel sand]

Your room in the screenshot isn't bad at all

[haughty flower]

i feel like i could've picked a better ceiling texture tbh

[novel sand]

Nice detail, but I wouldn't recommend using a wall texture for a flat like on the ceiling

Yeah but that can be changed easily
Also might be worth using the blue flat texture without the logo for the floor

[haughty flower]

im still trying to figure out which textures look good definitely

[novel sand]

You'll never stop doing that heheh

[haughty flower]

it's tough cuz im kinda trying to stick to the default ones and not adding any custom stuff

[novel sand]

I cycle through like three or four different textures for every flat without fail

[haughty flower]

i think the reason i use dumb textures sometimes is just cuz i never think there's enough variation :P

[novel sand]

You should take a look at Going Down, that wad doesn't use any new textures and does a great deal with the vanilla ones

[haughty flower]

i will check that out

aight downloading...

finished the first map, that was pretty dope

[idle shuttle]

first level of episode 3 is basically done

[novel sand]

Enjoy the rest of it. Going Down gets pretty brutal pretty quick, so good luck

[bold sage]

im so amateur i kinda know how to make a level good but i ended up restarting e1m1 of my wad and its going very slowly and im losing self confidenge oh god

[haughty flower]

we are the exact same person

replace e1m1 with map01 and we are the exact same person

[bold sage]

technically its map01

im trying to figure out if i want to map for 1 or 2

because i prefer the episodes structure, but doom 2 assets are nice

[haughty flower]

yeah i would say making a doom 2 wad and just getting the episodes in there somehow would be the best way

but that would probably take some kinda custom programmy stuff

[bold sage]

theres probably a way, but google sure doesnt want to tell me

i mean the bfg edition added an episode

and doom 2 re uses stuff

[haughty flower]

how do you tell the door that it's not 20 doors please help

[bold sage]

put a wall in front of it

and make it a roof

[haughty flower]

thank you

[bold sage]

basically just cover it

[tired pivot]

i'm interested

[idle shuttle]

that does sound cool ;)

[haughty flower]

https://gyazo.com/a69ea99e122bbe9da25e312f84f94ed1

[novel sand]

Is jumping intended in this wad? Because the bit where you have to go across the red platforms above the super-damaging floor on E3M1 seems impossible

Also, there are no weapons on map 5, making it impossible from a pistol start

[idle shuttle]

you just diagonal strafe

i tested it without jumping

[steep pebble]

I've only just found out how to edit MAPINFO and I feel like a master programmer

[haughty flower]

im trying to decide whether to share my first map now or polish it more and it feels like a very big decision for some reason

also @steep pebble cool pfp, i like slime rancher too

[steep pebble]

thanks

[haughty flower]

im gonna share my first map soon, just gotta fix up some texture stuff really quick

alright im still kinda nervous about sharing this but here it is
(edit: btw the mancubus, baron of hell, and cyberdemon are all supposed to be mandatory fights, but i didn't know how to do that so just fight them for me pls thx)

[bold sage]

Bruh.wad

Ill try it tomorrow

[elfin blaze]

how can i play bruh.wad

[haughty flower]

it's a doom 2 map

ive been testing it with gzdoom so you should probably use that

its probably pretty bad

[elfin blaze]

but how do i play it. ive nver downloaded or played a wad

[haughty flower]

your first wad should be an actual good one lol

[elfin blaze]

bruh

[quick flax]

.wad

[haughty flower]

but basically just download a doom source port, and drag the wad over the program

and it's like "aight loadin wad"

[elfin blaze]

oh

[haughty flower]

and then

[bold sage]

You can also use the official steam versions

Unless your wad is boom or zdoom

[haughty flower]

i used zdoom to test mine but it should work in others

i didnt use any fancy zdoom stuff

[bold sage]

What did you select at the start

Just doom 2

[haughty flower]

you mean when i first edited the map right?

and it has that popup of what base resources or whatever

[bold sage]

Yeah when u select the game

No not the resources the format

[haughty flower]

...this?

[bold sage]

No

Where it says stuff like doom in doom format

And hexen and strife and stuff

[elfin blaze]

how?

[haughty flower]

oh that

i picked doom 2

i think

[bold sage]

C:/Users/(you)/saved games/id software

[haughty flower]

my memory is a little fuzzy cuz i started this map very late at night

[bold sage]

That file path is off memory btw but its close enough

The wads folder is in there, just drop it there

Also at that folder u can extract any of the add ons by taking one of the files thats just called a number and renaming it with .wad at the end

[haughty flower]

oh btw in bruh.wad i didn't know how to make mandatory fights but your supposed to kill the mancubus, baron of hell, and cyberdemon

[elfin blaze]

and how do i open it? just double click the wad?

[bold sage]

My only real complaint with the new versions is that they dont say how to add wads at all

[bold sage]

No, what are you using to play doom

[elfin blaze]

the source port?

[bold sage]

Ig yeah

[elfin blaze]

whatever the basic one is

i only changed "the ultimate doom" port

[bold sage]

Oh so the steam one with add ons right

[elfin blaze]

yea

[bold sage]

Go there and put it in the WADs folder

[elfin blaze]

i did

[bold sage]

Then go to the add ons menu and enable it

It should have a caco icon

[elfin blaze]

its there

thats pretty simple ngl. thanks!

[bold sage]

Np

It is simple, but for whatever reason they made it really out of the way

[elfin blaze]

i would rather have it out of the way. just so i dont accidentally do something

[haughty flower]

reaper which wad are you playing

[bold sage]

Im saying they shouldve probably put the wads folder where the rest of the game is

[haughty flower]

Dont want to cause your pc to explode

[elfin blaze]

talk to valve lmao. they did the same thing with sourcemods

[elfin blaze]

none yet

[bold sage]

Not gonna happen unless the wad youre putting there is nuts 4

[haughty flower]

if you play wow.wad your pc just explodes cuz it wants to at that point

dude the regular nuts.wad brings my pc to tears

[bold sage]

At least that kinda had an excuse, they showed up seperate in the library

[bold sage]

But its nuts 4 that actually causes an explosion

[haughty flower]

Time to play nuts4.wad

[elfin blaze]

but theres more. there are 2 sourcemod folders. one in the actual steam library files, then the actual one thats seperated

[idle shuttle]

this door is fucking evil... i love it

[haughty flower]

i sure am quite evil

btw idk if you saw my previous messages or anything but the mancubus, baron, and cyberdemon in that map are mandatory fights

i just didn't know how to make them mandatory, but like, fight them pls thx

[idle shuttle]

i have allready iced the mancubus but ill keep that in mind for the others

[haughty flower]

also do you like the RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS difficulty

it's very fair :)

[idle shuttle]

im sure it is

[haughty flower]

:)

anyway once your done with the map remember to give some feedback on it

so i can git gud

[idle shuttle]

i will but at the moment im in hitscanner hell

[haughty flower]

you sound like you're having fun

[idle shuttle]

i am actually, i like the small rooms packed with monsters

i use that alot in my wad to add challenge

[haughty flower]

btw what diffcutly are you playing on

[idle shuttle]

the one above rip and tear

i just assumed that was UV

[haughty flower]

oh you mean wen u setp on legbo?

[idle shuttle]

ye

[haughty flower]

yeah that ones cool

i didnt actually know the exact stats for UV or anything so i kinda made up my own difficulties

[idle shuttle]

it feels a bit harder than UV but i might just be bad

[haughty flower]

imagine being so bad at bruh.wad you cant even beat it on RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS

[idle shuttle]

off topic but i do really like the design of this area

[haughty flower]

that's not really off topic, feedback was what i was looking for lol

but yeah good to know

[idle shuttle]

i think you should really try to play around with lighting to really make areas like this one stand out as the whole map is lit in basically the same way

[haughty flower]

yeah i was gonna add in lighting but i wanted to get feedback for the gameplay and stuff so i decided to do it later

same with decorations, ill add in some of those soon too

[idle shuttle]

well the gameplay is pretty great! although i have never liked crate mazes, but that's just my opinion.

[haughty flower]

yeah i know crate mazes could be annoying, that's why i made it pretty small

also the one secret of the map is in that crate maze, idk if you found it yet

[idle shuttle]

i did not find the secret

i did beat the level though

[haughty flower]

oh nice

[bold sage]

Making secrets is my favourite part of making a map

[idle shuttle]

i do like secrets

[bold sage]

However my least favourite part is having to make a secret sector large bc the finnicky detection

[idle shuttle]

i just hate making doors

[bold sage]

I made a small hidden pressure plate a secret sector since it opens a door, but i had to make the room inside the secret which makes it less cool

[haughty flower]

omg doors are so annoying

[idle shuttle]

they always break for no reason

[haughty flower]

there should be a key for just auto-making a sector into a door

[bold sage]

Yeah doors can be finnicky, just make sure you dont put in the detail before the door

Otherwise there will be pain

[idle shuttle]

it makes sense why doors are implemented the way they are but they still suck and i hate them

[haughty flower]

one time my door's lines were flipped the wrong way and it opened everything except the door

[idle shuttle]

yikes

[haughty flower]

entire roof of the crate maze was just like "aight cya"

[idle shuttle]

roof was boutta head out

[haughty flower]

lol

[novel sand]

There is

[haughty flower]

btw sydes let me know if you find the crate maze secret

[novel sand]

Select a sector, Shift+D

A whirlwind of emotions huh hahah

[bold sage]

I really love making doom maps, its simple and making cool stuff with what you got is satisfying

[idle shuttle]

i started making maps on Hammer but that shit just takes too damn long for one person

[bold sage]

You teally gotta try hard with limited y axis

Yeah hammer confused me, however i did make a barely functional tf2 map

[idle shuttle]

making maps on doom is almost better with having no room on room as you have to make creative solutions around the problem that end up making your maps better

[haughty flower]

oh brb guys, gonna go have some food

[bold sage]

I think next after finishing my WAD i might make a boom WAD, the options seem interesting and it still jkeeps it pretty vanilla

[idle shuttle]

;)

[novel sand]

Even vanilla format is deceptively versatile in what you can make

A couple of little tricks like control sectors can get you around the limitations of line actions

[idle shuttle]

i tried making a map with gzdoom format with room on room and coloured lighting and all that jazz but i have more fun on vanilla for whatever reason

[novel sand]

I love UDMF for the fact that line actions are way more versatile in that format

[bold sage]

Whats udmf

[novel sand]

But room on room and slopes just look... Wrong

It's the most versatile format, taking lots of stuff from Hexen, adding new things like coloured lighting/rooms on top of rooms/slopes, and simplifying a lot of the mapping tricks people have been using for years

You need GZDoom to play maps made in UDMF. You can do some pretty impressive stuff with it, but a lot of people prefer stuff made with vanilla or close-to-vanilla limitations because they're 1) playable on more source ports and 2) feel more "Doomy"

[idle shuttle]

yeah mapping with udmf doesn't feel like your making a doom map, wich if you dont want to make doom maps its fine but i like making doom maps

[bold sage]

Yeah im really not a fan of gzdoom

Im not a boomer, i started with gzdoom but i just prefer the vanilla renderer

Apart from how it butchers reds in low lights

[idle shuttle]

gzdoom is a damn good source port its just the one people associet with being the "least doomy" but you can still play it in software renderer with strict compatibility so its nearly identical to vanilla

[novel sand]

You can make that kind of thing in UDMF

[bold sage]

Every time i think if gz doom i think of that gmanlives video on the unity ports...

“Something simple like brutal doom”

[idle shuttle]

the unity ports are fine for consoles but for pc your better off with a fan made port

[bold sage]

I disagree

[novel sand]

The literal only problem with GZDoom in my book is how bad the performance is compared to something like glBoom+

[bold sage]

The widescreen images are cool, and its pretty close to vanilla

[idle shuttle]

oh yeah the widescreen backgrounds are awesome

playing doom on the switch is the coolest shit

[novel sand]

It chugs like fuuuck when you play something complex like Eviternity's ice or heaven episodes

[bold sage]

Gz doom deafult settings

[idle shuttle]

yeah its deafults are dogshit

texture filtering :(

[bold sage]

Jumping

[novel sand]

Turn off the horrible vaseline texture filtering yeah

[haughty flower]

im back now

[bold sage]

Also does anyone else have interact in space

[idle shuttle]

turns the original graphics to mud

[haughty flower]

what did i miss

[bold sage]

Talking about source ports

[haughty flower]

epic

[novel sand]

For me the perfect graphical sweet spot is the vanilla textures without the extreme pixelation at distance of vanilla

GZDoom or the Booms are good for that with the right settings

[bold sage]

I dont like how gzdoom makes dark areas brighter

Its way easier to see in gzdoom

[novel sand]

But sometimes when I play Chocolate Doom I can't see whether it's an imp or a Cyberdemon at the other side of the map lmao
(Exaggeration)

I think you can change the lighting

[bold sage]

Simple, memorise every monster spawn

[idle shuttle]

thats why i use gzdoom, so i can play in software renderer and also have 1080p

[haughty flower]

i just use gzdoom cuz when i was searching for source ports it was one of the first results

[bold sage]

Thats basically where everyone starts

[haughty flower]

i kinda just picked a random one tbh, but gzdoom is pretty good so imma keep it

[bold sage]

The unity ports are underrated and i will die on this hill

[idle shuttle]

they use bethesda.net

[bold sage]

You dont need it

[idle shuttle]

defend that >:)

yeah but its still there

lurking scheiming plotting

[bold sage]

Its optional and it allows you to get a cool skin in eternal

[novel sand]

Unity ports are good but severely lacking in versatility

Very very few options to play with and they desperately need Boom compat imo if they're going to be the official ports

[bold sage]

I kinda disagree, there are plenty of vanilla wads

If someone wants to get modded wads like that they probably already use a source port

And isnt it still the og code in a unity wrapper

[novel sand]

Fair enough, but I stand by what I said about the options

[idle shuttle]

its nice to know that if you want to play your mates wad he made you just can

[novel sand]

Yes, it's pretty much identical to vanilla. Maybe Chocolate Doom is a bit more faithful but you're splitting hairs at that point

[bold sage]

Well it depends if youre mates wad is vanilla compatible

[haughty flower]

oh i almost forgot to ask, sydes did you find the secret in the crate maze of my map yet?

[idle shuttle]

yeah

i found it

[haughty flower]

nice

[bold sage]

Yeah but te unity port is much more updsted with nice features while still being faithful to vanilla

[novel sand]

I'm a glBoom+ guy myself but I've been using GZDoom a lot recently to play people's custom wads

[bold sage]

At the end of the day its a free upgrade that is just meant to bing the pure doom experience into modern times, and i think they did that wuite erll

Slopes in doom feel wrong for me

[novel sand]

A lot of people seem to kinda default to UDMF when they make custom maps even if they don't need it heheh

[novel sand]

No disagreement here, I think the Unity ports are pretty popular tbh

I'm doing my speedmap in UDMF but that's only because the wad it's being put in will only work with GZDoom anyway

[idle shuttle]

all of episode 2 of my wads maps were speedmap's i hated making them

somthing about city's in doom just doesn't work for me

[bold sage]

Whats speedmaps

[novel sand]

Maps made within a time limit, often with limitations or rules

So this one I'm doing is "Make a castle-themed map in eight hours editing time with at least 10 secrets"

I've used 40 minutes so far on one room... Oops lol

[idle shuttle]

with my wads episode two it was "get it over and done with even if its shit and move on"

[novel sand]

That can be a good approach tbh if you go back and edit it after

Cities in Doom are rough though you're right

[idle shuttle]

i tried to do somthing i wasnt used to doing with more urban style maps but i just like doing demonic temples and hellscapes

[novel sand]

Ahahah, I always gravitate towards gothic maps

[idle shuttle]

yeah the doom2 texture set is just so perfect for that kinda thing

although in episode 3 ive tried to implement more custom textures into the maps

^ a very rough start to e3m2

[novel sand]

I might try and do a seven map episode

Still haven't made my debut, I'm gonna reshape the entire mapping game boys

(I'm really not lol)

[idle shuttle]

i was thinking about doing longer episodes but i dont have the time so i stuck with 5 levels per episode with 4 levels and a boss

[novel sand]

I only have time rn

[idle shuttle]

im trying to balance a shit ton of coding work i have to do, school and this wad im working on and it fucking sucks

[haughty flower]

F

[idle shuttle]

F indeed

[haughty flower]

i just added some decoration to bruh.wad

Bruh

[elfin blaze]

.wad

[haughty flower]

bruh indeed

[idle shuttle]

you beat me to it

[tulip monolith]

What’s in it

[haughty flower]

lol

[elfin blaze]

i had to do it to em

[haughty flower]

bruh.wad is my first map basically

[tulip monolith]

I have a few joke wads I can dump here if anyone’s interested in playing them

[haughty flower]

im trying to learn how to make good maps

na joke wads are for nerds

[elfin blaze]

guess ill download the newest version of bruh.wad

[haughty flower]

i just named it bruh.wad cuz i couldnt think of a name

[tulip monolith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[haughty flower]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin blaze]

bruh.wad i cant even download it

[haughty flower]

if bruh.wad gets a sequel it will be called ¯_(ツ)_/¯.wad

[tulip monolith]

Lol

I’m actually going to put effort into the next map I made

[elfin blaze]

just make bruh.wad but its mirrored

[bold sage]

Can you even call files that

[tulip monolith]

Where DoomGuy shoots up a demon-infested Costco

[idle shuttle]

i like the new decorations and stuff but the place is quite dark especially the crate maze

[haughty flower]

noted

[elfin blaze]

bruh that was fast

[haughty flower]

the best decoration by far is the corpse roasting over a flaming barrel at the beginning

[elfin blaze]

i wish school wasnt a thing so i could fuck around with wads

[bold sage]

This

[haughty flower]

me and my homies all love corpse roasting over a flaming barrel at the beginning

[idle shuttle]

yeah

[haughty flower]

certified hood classic

[elfin blaze]

more specifically i want to fuck around with doom, but i would probably do wads more

[bold sage]

Online classes are shit, i just endure them bc the teachers move way too god damn fast and the work is just brain numbing

[idle shuttle]

online classes are the bane of my existance

[elfin blaze]

online school just doesnt work tbh. my grades went from high As to like almost failing every class

[bold sage]

At least its not as bad as having to go there and sit half asleep in a shitty chair

Years 7-11 of school mentally destroyed any hope i had

[idle shuttle]

oh yeah definatly

[bold sage]

And also destroyed my back, who the fuck thought those chairs were ok

[idle shuttle]

9-11 just crumples your mental state

[elfin blaze]

it's my first week back in school after winter break and i got piled with like 4 projects and had like 2 days to complete them

[elfin blaze]

yes. i peaked in middle school doing other stuff, but high school is just numbing

[tulip monolith]

School is hard

[idle shuttle]

word

[elfin blaze]

at least i have doom for the last 1 and a half years though

[tulip monolith]

But doom mapping is harder

[bold sage]

Its hard, youre not treated like a person and i think ive missed like 2 years of it due to covid

[tulip monolith]

My first doom game was 2016 in July last year I think

[idle shuttle]

i started on brutal doom 😔

[bold sage]

Fireblue moment

How and why would you start on brutal doom

[tulip monolith]

I’ve never played BD

[bold sage]

Did you just play e1m1 and think “this would be better with grenades”

[idle shuttle]

brutal doom is fun but it isnt doom

[tulip monolith]

It’s actually fireblu

[bold sage]

Fuck

[elfin blaze]

so its just "brutal" then

[tulip monolith]

Fake doomer

[bold sage]

I dont play gz doom that by deafult makes me real

[haughty flower]

ayo sorry to interrupt but i turned the lighting up a little, lmk if this is better

[elfin blaze]

[tulip monolith]

Damn 😔
I used GZDoom

[haughty flower]

Brutal doom is a fun distraction but I dont consider it "DOOM 3" or something

[idle shuttle]

lets face it not a damn one of us played doom when it was originally released so are any of us really true "doomers"

[bold sage]

Sorry i physically didnt exist in 1993, i shall never play doom again

[elfin blaze]

i didnt even exist in 1993

[tulip monolith]

Doom 64 is the real Doom 3, it’s just Nintendo had to swoop in and take it for themselves, trashing the game to fit in their shitty little cartridges. Fuck that company

[haughty flower]

I technically first played doom on dos but I barely remember it, first full remembrance of playing it was when I was In like 3rd grade on a friend's xbox360

[bold sage]

Ngl nintendo always kinda sucked apart from their games themselves

[elfin blaze]

xbox 360 had doom?

[bold sage]

The NES Liscencing agreement was a bruh moment

[idle shuttle]

doom 3 bfg for Xbox 360

[elfin blaze]

oh

[bold sage]

Every game was a forced exclusive

[haughty flower]

Some kind of xbox, I know that for certain.

[bold sage]

Also there was doom on xbox live arcade, let me get the wikipedia

[elfin blaze]

ohhhhh i know there was an original doom port to the original xbox

[haughty flower]

I played through the entirety of episode 1

and then I played that ball game

[elfin blaze]

we should probably move to #general since we are not talking about maps

[bold sage]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(franchise)
In 06/12

[haughty flower]

na I'm good i was just saying what I remembered

[bold sage]

More like #classic-doom

[haughty flower]

👌

[elfin blaze]

that too

[idle shuttle]

you should add in some sector based lighting to make some of the decorative mad details pop out more contrasting bright areas with dark ones ;)

[haughty flower]

what

[haughty flower]

😳

[idle shuttle]

brightning up/darkning a certain sector

[haughty flower]

I think like make it gradual instead of sharp 120 - 200 or whatever

[bold sage]

Wait did you not know sector lighting

[haughty flower]

😎 💥

[tulip monolith]

Imagine putting effort into your maps

[haughty flower]

isnt sector lighting just the lighting value in the sector properties

cuz that's what ive been using

[tulip monolith]

Old screenshot of my upcoming map

[bold sage]

Yeah but its doing it in a cool way

[idle shuttle]

you can use controll and scroll wheel in veiw mode to easily do it

[tulip monolith]

Le Costco

[elfin blaze]

where are the $1.50 hotdogs. and are they made of cacodemons and/or pain elementals?

[bold sage]

No its horse

[tulip monolith]

They’re made from dead chaingunners

[elfin blaze]

ooh

[idle shuttle]

then you can get stuff like the glow from the torches and the shadows behind the pillar

[elfin blaze]

a delicacy then

[tulip monolith]

The meatbois serve them though, even though they have no hands

[idle shuttle]

why do caco's in 2016 and eternal have arms it allways looks so weird

[elfin blaze]

to do this:

[haughty flower]

you guys expect me to use all these advanced lighting techniques like bruh i dont even know how to make a switch yet 😭

lmao

[tulip monolith]

I just assume they’re vestigial

[idle shuttle]

the lighting is pretty easy and it drammaticly improves the looks of your maps

[haughty flower]

ill try to make it better

[idle shuttle]

its allready good the looks of it is 👌 it could just use some contrast

[haughty flower]

like what do you mean by contrast

[idle shuttle]

light and dark areas

adding some depth

god i sound like a GCSE art teacher

[haughty flower]

can you screenshot some specific parts of the map that i need to light better?

so that way i can kinda understand it a bit more

[idle shuttle]

sure

[haughty flower]

im having kind of a hard time figuring this out cuz i have this thing called 'stupidity' :P

[bold sage]

Nah your map looks way better than a lot of first wads

[haughty flower]

that's good to hear

[idle shuttle]

yeah for a first wad its damn better than mine

[haughty flower]

hopefully my later wads continue to impress

i mean technically this isnt my first map, its just the first ive actually finished and shared

i made a few random crappy levels before this just to kinda test things out

mostly just for learning the editor tbh

[idle shuttle]

this was my first proper map and its

[elfin blaze]

time to download

[haughty flower]

which iwad which iwad

[idle shuttle]

doom2

[haughty flower]

aight time to play this

[bold sage]

My first real map is coming soon ™️ in valve time

[haughty flower]

well technically its better than mine because you knew how to make switches

[bold sage]

Mega brain

[idle shuttle]

that was the whole reason i made that map

[bold sage]

Do you know how to now

[idle shuttle]

the switch is the most impressive part i can assure you

[haughty flower]

i still dont know how

hang on imma google it

[bold sage]

-select and right click the door/thing and right click in sector kode

[bold sage]

-give it a new tag

-select the linedef that is where the switch is in linedef mode

[haughty flower]

no its fine i found a tutorial

[bold sage]

-give it the same tag as the sector and set the thing the sector will do

[haughty flower]

seems easy

[idle shuttle]

just remember to make sure the lindef has a S1 or SR property

[bold sage]

Thats done, also switch textures automatically do the animation

[haughty flower]

switches confirmed for bruh.wad map02

[bold sage]

Mega brain

Doom mapping really becomes mega brain once you figure out fake floors

You can make water with depth

[haughty flower]

how

[bold sage]

Its hard to explain without images

And im not at my pc rn

[tulip monolith]

GZDoom allows crazy shit

[elfin blaze]

water with depth?

[idle shuttle]

yeah i saw people talkin about that a few days ago and i instantly put it into a map

[bold sage]

Its not gz, its vanilla

[haughty flower]

"...once you figure out fake floors"
"how"
*several people are typing*

[bold sage]

You can see the effect in map 2 or 3 of tnt i forget which one

[idle shuttle]

you can use the same trick to have ceilings with different lignting to there floors

[haughty flower]

neat

[bold sage]

Now that i didnt know

[haughty flower]

anyway im gonna start makig bruh map02

[idle shuttle]

its not really usefull unless you want somthing in fulldark with bright platforms

[elfin blaze]

i cant wait for your fourth map lol

[haughty flower]

ill improve map01's lighting later™️

[idle shuttle]

yeah doing the lighting while you are atually doing the map is way easier than trying to do it later

E3M1 (map11) is complete and E3M2 (map12) is Work in progress

[haughty flower]

it begins

[idle shuttle]

par 420... smh

[haughty flower]

also here is the bruh.wad lore so far:
in map01 there's like a uac place that gets invaded by demons and then at the end you jump into that hole and its actually a hole to hell so map02 is hell thanks for coming to my ted talk

[idle shuttle]

i have a whole ass story in my head for my wad that i need to write down in the intermission screens

at the moment after you beat the second custom boss it just says "the big bastard is dead" then ends

[haughty flower]

just leave it like that

it's incredible it's perfect

[idle shuttle]

i would but i wanna make this wad as professional as i can make it

[glacial skiff]

Again with the 1920x1800 Doom format patches

Why

[idle shuttle]

what does that even mean

[glacial skiff]

It means the sprites you included in your wad are ridiculously gigantic

[idle shuttle]

they are all super small

[glacial skiff]

No they are not lmao

[idle shuttle]

they are actually your right

[glacial skiff]

This is the size of every single sprite in the wad, and this is also where 2.3MB of the filesize comes from

[idle shuttle]

they have a bunch of empty space on them where the rest of the sprites i made where on the sprite sheet

i fix that later 😎

he do be ballin doe

[bold sage]

That moment when i want to make custom weapons sprites but my arms are hairless noodles

[elfin blaze]

just make the arms be double barrel shotguns

[idle shuttle]

my solotion: Robot hands

[bold sage]

I cant sprite good though

[idle shuttle]

it definitely isnt a traced TF2 revolver ;)

[bold sage]

How didnt i recognize that

Thats just spy hand

[idle shuttle]

exactly

[elfin blaze]

lmao

doom, but i just trace sprites and use them myself

[glacial skiff]

My advice: learn your way around GIMP, there is basically a handful of scripted effects I repeatedly come back to and run over otherwise very simple sprites to make interesting outputs like this:

[bold sage]

Bro ambassador in doom ur such a tryhard

[bold sage]

Yeah im still shitty at gimp

[bold sage]

Working smarter, not harder

[glacial skiff]

Learn the tool, particularly look in the different layer modes and filters - - they do most of the work for me. My art is not super amazing, but it is passable I'd say

[elfin blaze]

[glacial skiff]

And it's really like, maybe 30 minutes of work on first pass?

[bold sage]

Technically couldnt being lazy be more accurate to og lol

[elfin blaze]

bro i found a video that i want to share, but i cant

[idle shuttle]

not groovy

[bold sage]

Its what the devs did
“Yeah bro just edit this picture of a nerf gun

[glacial skiff]

Just depends on what you're trying to do I suppose

Most stuff in my iwad is heavily edited photo-sourced stuff

(All public domain or royalty-free, of course - but the point remains)

[bold sage]

Yeah but where do u find an image of a gun thats from the 1st person angle

[elfin blaze]

doom is just an amazing game. its 2d but also 3d and it just looks amazing

[idle shuttle]

use toy guns and get your own pictures >:)

[bold sage]

I mean the game is 3d, there is height

[elfin blaze]

its nerf or nothing now

[glacial skiff]

You open up Blender, separate it into parts, color the parts each differently pose the weapon and hand, render an image, then manually edit the colored parts

[idle shuttle]

if theres height then why cant i go under a cacodemon

[bold sage]

You mean get a model of the gun or something?

[bold sage]

Because theyre infinetely tall, pretty sure to save on space, since later doom engine games dont have that

[glacial skiff]

Or make one, yes

[bold sage]

If it was 2d you couldnt use momentum to cross gaps

[glacial skiff]

Example of this workflow; rendered image:

Converted to game. Animations suck, but this is fine enough to use as a standin

[bold sage]

If only i had the slightest clue in 3d modelling

[idle shuttle]

blender is a mystery

[bold sage]

Blender scares me

[glacial skiff]

Blender is a non-mystery if you're willing to spend that first hour learning enough of the geometry editor hotkeys to be able to produce some simple polygons

After that, everything starts making a lot more sense

[idle shuttle]

the furthest ive got on blender was making a circle apper on the screen and that took at least a hour

[elfin blaze]

what about default cube?

[idle shuttle]

i wanted a circle

[bold sage]

I made a shit gun, and i really mean it was shit

[elfin blaze]

👀

[idle shuttle]

gun was shot 😔

america indeed

[bold sage]

Im not allowed to question things

[glacial skiff]

Protips for Blender 2.7x: ctrl+tab, F/E/V to select different types of data (face, edge, vertex); alt-E with an element selected to extrude it; S to scale; right-click-drag an element around to move it and press X/Y/Z while doing this to lock it to an axis

And ctrl+F with a face selected to flip its normal

With only these hotkeys you can make the equivalent of Quake-like levels in Blender

[idle shuttle]

wait lemme note this down somewhere

K cool

[elfin blaze]

lmao

[glacial skiff]

My advice, crack open the tool and try making some simple level-type stuff in it, doesn't need to be anything complete. Try imitating Ultima Underworld or remaking the starting room of E1M1 so that you figure out how to use the goemetry editor, then from there try making other less level-y types of things like a sword or a gun

It could be very interesting if you, for example, made a GZDoom level that used lots of pre-made Blender meshes to add complex detail

[idle shuttle]

blender would probably be pretty cool for making textures

because using medibang kinda sucks

[glacial skiff]

NeoTextureEdit is an interesting one

You generate the output image procedurally by using a series of "generators" and other inputs, mixing them together in different ways, and then ... yeah, that

[idle shuttle]

ill check it out because i want to go all out with episode 3 of my wad when it comes to adding custom textures and props

[celest steeple]

how do I get the eternal mod injector?

someone either @ me back, or reply so I can get pinged

[tulip monolith]

http://www.doometernalmods.com/how-to-install-doom-eternal-mods/

comes with a download too

[celest steeple]

nvm I got it

thank you though

[celest steeple]

ok...

@tulip monolith , or someone else help.

I got the most recent version of it from the doom mod server

"DOOM 2016+ Modding"

and idk what's happening with my Eternal Patcher

I can send a screenshot of my doom eternal local files if you need me to

[tulip monolith]

@celest steeple do you have the game running?

[celest steeple]

no.

I know not to run it

I closed steam via task manager, I ran the mod injector, and then boom. error.

I was missing my DoomPatcher.def

I got it!

[celest steeple]

ok they're not working.

I have everything, but I don't see a change in my game.

[celest steeple]

if anyone has advice, please @ me

I'm going to bed, so I'll see ya'll tomorrow

[idle shuttle]

i think i've pretty much finished e3m2

[novel sand]

Your aesthetic sense is definitely getting better

I liked the custom textures in this one

[idle shuttle]

i still think episode one has the best maps in that wad though

there was talks a while ago of getting a bunch of mappers from this channel together and making a mega-wad, i think thats a damn good idea but idk if anyone else would want to do that

[novel sand]

A bunch of us said we were interested yeah

idk how many, less than ten

We could always make an episode instead

[idle shuttle]

yeah or a wad with 20 levels instead or even smaller if need be

[bold sage]

Its probably be terrible lol but im in

[idle shuttle]

who cares if its bad it will be just fun to do it :)

[bold sage]

Ye

[idle shuttle]

well thats 3 people i guess but we will probably need more for anything larger than just an episode

[novel sand]

You guys wanna do a specific theme or just freeform?

[idle shuttle]

thanks KEKZ very cool

If anyone wants in to the community wad that is in the works @ me :)

[snow hearth]

I am not the best at map making but I do enjoy it a lot so I am kind of torn if I should help or not

[idle shuttle]

we not doing this to be "the best wad ever only perfection alowed" just for fun at least thats the idea

[novel sand]

Join us, none of us are like pro mapmakers haha

[snow hearth]

sound good, I am in

[torn remnant]

i really like the idea personally

[idle shuttle]

you want in?

[torn remnant]

yeah, im also joining

[idle shuttle]

ive sent a freind request so you can join the group chat we have

[torn remnant]

good

[haughty flower]

wait i just woke up what is everyone joining

[tulip monolith]

I think this #classic-doom-maps-mods message

[haughty flower]

oh

that sounds like it would be fun but i only made one map so far so im definitely not experienced enough

[tulip monolith]

Never said it had to be good

[haughty flower]

[haughty flower]

That was me, mostly just an idea.

But if ya want I can make a map.

[idle shuttle]

there is 5 people at the moment all doing 2 maps each and all working on the secret level so if you want to make 2 maps and a peice of a secret level then you can join

[tulip monolith]

I’m in. Is there a server?

[idle shuttle]

its a GC

[tulip monolith]

Can I get an inv

[glacial skiff]

I'll belt out a map if I'm invited to do so

[haughty flower]

do you need to be experienced at mapping to join or is it just anybody

cuz it sounds kinda fun so i'd be down to supply some of my semi-trash maps

[idle shuttle]

you can both join

[haughty flower]

Yea I'll throw you a friend inv

poggers

[idle shuttle]

Invite is still good if anyone else wants to join in making a megawad with many others just @ me if you want in

[timid storm]

@idle shuttle id like an invite

[tired pivot]

@idle shuttle id like an invite

[tulip monolith]

I’m in the server, you can ping me too

[idle shuttle]

yeah i keep missing the ping so ping anyone really

[haughty flower]

Can I join

[novel sand]

Sure

[haughty flower]

we got 12 people in here

3 more and we can each have 2 maps :DDD

[haughty flower]

https://youtu.be/h27jBGxoOGg

[fair bolt]

I may consider working with my brother to make Descent Into Dis an actual Wad based on Doom 2. We'll see.

Planned NEW Demons:
Imperator, Sentry, Shade Gecko, Trespasser, Pouncer, Hell Wocker

[white arch]

Is there a way to make hitscan attacks (not rails) pierce enemies

[haughty flower]

Idk, only way I know is to use rails, make them spawn the bullet puff and hide the rail

[white arch]

I looked into Guncaster's implementation but it uses a fancy projectile and I don't think I'm skilled enough to pull that off without copying basically all the code

[outer mountain]

In snapmap, how do I configure one specific weapon to have infinite ammunition?

[haughty flower]

Yo we still buildin if anyone else wants to join the megawad, we have a few gaps we gotta fill

[split hamlet]

Sounds interesting.
If you still need someone can I get an invite?

[haughty flower]

Yea, FR me and I can hook you up.

[coarse yarrow]

@haughty flower any texture packs we need? or is it all Doom 2 textures?

[haughty flower]

PatchTex, along with a few more that SYDES made, the wad is in the lil'server we made

[coarse yarrow]

oh shit, can I join? dm me the link

[hushed oasis]

playing through Switcheroom 2 rn and one of the maps has a MIDI of the bootleg At Doom's Gate from the 2005 film

[velvet steeple]

Is it possible to install custom map on Doom eternal? if it is, is it only possible to install remix of existing maps or possible to install any kinds of maps?

[bold sage]

You can put maps and graphics directly into the wad but why would you

[haughty flower]

( o-o)/ hi yall, we're still looking for authors for
Amateur Levels for Boom II

wad is boom-compatable
with PatchTex textures and a few custom ones

We're missing people for

MAP04 - "Earth" Theme
MAP11, 12, and 14 - "Hell" Theme.

2 more people and we could have the whole list filled!
@ me if you want an inv.

[mellow blaze]

Hi,

We are to create a brand new gameplay, I need your help to customize a Mod for Doom3 BGF. Here are the demo videos for new gameplay: http://www.xianfan.net/dv/demo1.mp4 and http://www.xianfan.net/dv/demo-2.mp4

[mellow blaze]

In the game, press and hold a specific button to activate the shooting mode. In this mode, moving the mouse does not rotate the screen viewing angle, and the crosshair moves freely with the mouse. The position of the front sight is the impact point. The viewing angle of the screen can only be changed by the direction axis of the handle.Release the specific button to return to the traditional operating mode.
One idea is to add an additional camera in the game, which usually overlaps with the original camera, and it can be separated from the rotation when shooting mode. The added camera can only be operated by the handle. There is no need to change the logic in this way. The original camera is usually used, and the additional camera is used in the shooting mode. This can also solve the problem of gun rotation http://www.xianfan.net/dv/dv1.mp4 . Is there anyone who can implement these functions?

[torn remnant]

epic vanilla(ish) textures

[bold sage]

what

[coarse yarrow]

what

[bold sage]

guess we'll never know...

[unkempt loom]

Now I'm curious

[bold sage]

same

[candid pelican]

Isn’t the doomslayer literally to angry to die

[bold sage]

in lore yes

however i find that kinda dumb,since he can, well, die

[glacial skiff]

Shüt

[tulip monolith]

What

[glacial skiff]

This is a gun, out of which you would conceivably shoot something

Therefore, shüt

[idle shuttle]

he's not wrong

[tulip monolith]

SSG for wall peaking

[glacial skiff]

Three barrels, so more like "for wall destroying"

[tulip monolith]

I thought that was two weirdly-angled barrels

[coarse yarrow]

super-duper shotgun

[glacial skiff]

Supposed to be wielded by a barbarian who gives zero fucks whatsoever about precision or subtlety - more bang is more good

You might ask "why not 4 barrels then" and my response is... Just, like, shut up, ok?

[bold sage]

That line of thinking leads to this, never go down that line

https://youtu.be/tFrkninf8nU

[coarse yarrow]

triple barrels look cool, quad barrel is overdone

you are a man of culture

[haughty flower]

Ok yes but what about 8 barrels

[coarse yarrow]

103 barrels

[haughty flower]

116?

[haughty flower]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/370608600978292736/796799180437323817/Pistolepic.png

Pistol of death

Hey, I need some help. I am using Ultimate Doom Builder and i need to figure out what the skill 1-8 flags do as i do not know what skills they affect as there are 5 skill levels in doom 2 and there are 8 skill flags in the editor.

[novel sand]

I believe 1-5 correspond to the regular difficulty settings and 6-8 are for custom difficulties

[haughty flower]

thanks

[celest steeple]

does anyone know a good doom 2 multiplayer mod on gzdoom that allows me to play with my friends?

if it's not on gzdoom, that fine also

[bold sage]

...doom has multiplayer already

[snow hearth]

Download Zandronum

It's a source port focused on multiplayer doom

[celest steeple]

I said on gzdoom. so I can mod.

[celest steeple]

does it support modding?

[bold sage]

Yeah gzdoom has multiplayer

And zandronum is a fork of gz doom with better multiplayer

[snow hearth]

Yes its badically GZdoom but multiplayer

[celest steeple]

nice.

[haughty flower]

Give us a quintuple barrel you p*ssy

[coarse yarrow]

9282881 barrel

[weak galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740331740471623902/779382182711001128/image0.gif

barrel

[hexed hedge]

i think it's just he's immortal by age but can be killed like any other god

[sinful helm]

bruh im trying to make a map in doom builder but doors are just deciding not to work

[bold sage]

Send a screenshot

Of it in the editor

[sinful helm]

im trying to get it to activate via a switch

what should i send a screenshot of

[bold sage]

So the switch action is S1 or SR, and the switch linedef and the door sector are the same tag

[sinful helm]

oh that worked i didnt know that the letters before the action meant so i had it on D1 or something

what do the letters mean

[bold sage]

D1 is direct so basically opening the door

[sinful helm]

oooooohh

[bold sage]

S is switch, w is walk

[sinful helm]

tysm

[bold sage]

I forgot if theres others

[novel sand]

D = directly opens a door
S = remotely opens a door (switch linedef and door sector need the same tag)
W = opens a door when you walk over a linedef (needs a tag)
G = opens a door when you shoot it (only in some formats)

1 = action can only be triggered once
R = action can be triggered unlimited times

[haughty flower]

made this on roblox studio

[celest steeple]

now that's beautiful.

[kind yoke]

pog

[sinful helm]

thats actually very cool

[nova terrace]

Ok

[celest steeple]

when can I play this?

[haughty flower]

yo, what's the model id

that's sick

[sacred onyx]

I've learned how to make a body of water you can swim in with in-game adjustable levels

My water temple is gonna be SICK

[night raft]

Is making doom levels for either eternal or doom 2016 a thing?

[snow hearth]

in DOOM 2016 you have the snapmap feature, in Eternal there is no official support for custom maps but I think you can still modify which enemies spawn in current maps

[night raft]

So does that mean that doom 2016 is moddable?

[haughty flower]

Technically?

[trim gorge]

Hey all, where would be the best place for me to ask some SnapMap questions??

[haughty flower]

Probably here.

Either that or reddit.

[trim gorge]

SnapMap: when using a spawn container, you have 2 location options to spawn an object (explicit location OR activator). Is it a known bug that when using the activator location the spawned object becomes a physics object (ragdoll like) and when using explicit location it becomes that floating/rotating object? And is there a way to specify if you want a floating or physics object?

[sacred onyx]

Can you put apostrophes in map titles?

[haughty flower]

Yea, why?

[sacred onyx]

Wanted to give my map a fancy title lol

[sacred onyx]

also I went back through my map and realised my tag numbers were all over the place, so I've ripped them all out and redone them

[proven idol]

would anyone like to help playtest a map im working on?

[echo wing]

for classic doom? if it is then hell yeah

[proven idol]

yeah d2

[echo wing]

sick, i'll try it

[echo wing]

so guys, in vanilla doom, how do you raise and lower a platform?

im remaking the first level of quake under vanilla doom limits, and thats basically all i need to know

nevermind i've decided to do teleports instead

[bold sage]

its just in the linedef actions

try looking in the floor tab or the lift tab depending on what you need

[echo wing]

i dont see it?

i'm trying to make the floor lower

this keeps coming up. i haven't even got a switch in there

[bold sage]

what do you mean you dont see it

what are you looking at

[echo wing]

Nevermind, I got it
Thanks bud

[eager frigate]

@proven idol send it to me too!

[vital walrus]

hey i'm a new mapmaker and i'd like to have some tutoring on this

like doors

i cant friggin make em

like i can do 3d floors but not DOORS

DOORS!

[coarse yarrow]

https://youtu.be/m57H4fY79NU

[vital walrus]

well i mean i do good maps but they don't have the necessary functions

[vocal crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UtTtrwMQHI
not me ofc but eh.

[coarse yarrow]

graf zahl moment

[lucid mirage]

wow

[buoyant field]

hi.
i made a game project for school. we did a retro fps. i decided to share the assets here just in case anyone wants to use them in a mod. they're pretty sloppily done but maybe someone gets some use out of them.

here's a video showing what's in the google drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12npHuHwlLGmogUpYxjimzV87Y5tmvGYM/view?usp=sharing

and here's the folder itself.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1epOR1QnVXjXa6RutjS0IljL5D0_lFhmO?usp=sharing

[haughty flower]

Graf Zahl - "Salty Member"

[vital walrus]

salt

[coarse yarrow]

I'd be salty all the time if I liked texture filtering in early fps games too.

[sacred onyx]

Suppose I should include some screencaps

[vital walrus]

whoa. that looks freaking awesome

[sage totem]

Agreed

They shoulda had you on their dev team back in the doom 1 days specifically for level design

[sacred onyx]

Oh you guys ❤️

Here's a link to the Doomworld thread that features a download link: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119316-gzdoom-singleplayer-cest-la-vie/

Also... dynamic lights + reflective floors + dark rooms = 😍

[undone bluff]

bye muss off

[sacred onyx]

I was eight years old when Doom came out, lol

[coarse bane]

I was but a twinkle in my parents eye

[runic hull]

I have also completed my own doom map. More specifically my very first one. Definitely not as cool as the that one just a pretty short little map and I'm pretty happy with it. Also record and send me a demo of you playing it, I kinda wanna see someones first blind playthrough.

[sage totem]

Haha i wasnt born yet

[sacred onyx]

I like it! 🙂

[proven idol]

I took a playthrough quickly, didn't record my first playthrough, however I can say a few things (take my critique with a grain of salt I've only got three maps to my name LMAO); there's a lot of Shotgunners spammed throughout, which just end up being click, click, click with the shotgun, same with all the Pinky's, so it feels somewhat bullet spongey, also the blue armour platform went back up too quickly for me to get it and the button doesn't reset. Otherwise; great detail throughout, I really liked it

Also if anyone wants to test my wad: Three levels with different layouts based upon your difficulty level, tested with UV originally in GZDoom however attempts to be as vanilla as possible.

• MAP01 - ||"Quaking in my Boots", a short introductory map with a small boss arena to reach the exit. I'm unhappy with how short it is as of now, feels like it's incredibly outweighed by MAP02, est 5% finished||
• MAP02 - ||"Lead in Hell", a long Hell and Earth map, the telepads were supposed to be like the transitionary UAC to Hell parts in Doom 2016 SnapMap, however currently considering moving them to be a separate area spit by actual telepads. Has a lot of arenas, Archviles and Arachnotrons, est 65% finished||
• SECRET01 - ||A large horde-style Cyberdemon boss fight, no ending right now, overall quite rushed, mainly just for testing the layout, est 20% finished||
  Feedback goes here; https://forms.gle/rKkAeFAfF1xhuu7V8

[odd kelp]

does it work with zandronum?

[proven idol]

You can test it but I can't guarantee functionality

[vital walrus]

i wasn't alive when doom came out

[coarse bane]

You were but a twinkle in your parents eye

[proven idol]

updated wad, please play instead thank <3

[heady knot]

this is my first doom map. it isnt good, but i kinda tried

i would like any criticism

[haughty flower]

nice wad

it has some good texture use and nice design

the only problem i have is that is has too many monsters compared to the amount of ammo and health

so i advise either add more ammo and/or health or reduce the monsters

you dont have to listen to me you can keep it the way you want

[haughty flower]

It's pretty good for a first map

you should move the first platform with the sergeants a bit closer to the hallway as i had to use the jump key to get across

nice texture use

with the door switch

different texture to signify a use

[trim gorge]

Hey all. Got my snapmap to a place where I would love to start getting some feedback. I'm curious if anyone can enlighten me on what exactly are the differences between "Publishing" and "Publishing for review", can't find this information anywhere. Ideally, I wanted to be able to just share the map link with a few people, without actually making the map 100% public. Hope that makes sense.

[heady knot]

Wait what that was entirely unintentional

[heady knot]

Also the reason it was so far was that you needed to press the switch in the room with the hell knight. I guess I should've signified that better

[viral notch]

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[vital walrus]

is that a doom total conversion?

[viral notch]

Yup!

[vital walrus]

oh cool i might get it

does it work for zandronum?

[ocean hull]

All publishes are public. The only difference between "Publish" and "Publish for Review" is that "Publish for Review" also adds it to the "Review Queue" section.

[ocean hull]

The only way you could share maps to specific people, would require you and the people you're sharing with to be on PC, and then you can send eachother the map file

[scenic granite]

I am new to this right, how tf do I make a door work, I have been trying on this for an hour lmao

[sinful helm]

youre using doom builder right?

[vital walrus]

@scenic granite go message @echo wing he taught me how to do doors

or she honestly idk

[scenic granite]

ye

[scenic granite]

thanks

[viral notch]

GZDoom only (currently!)

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Twitter · Jan 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

[scenic granite]

why are the things missing weapons and monsters in Doom Builder

[bold sage]

Youre using doom 1

[haughty flower]

Bruh moment.

[scenic granite]

nah im using doom 2

[bold sage]

Did you select doom 2 as a configuration

Just using the doom 2 wad isnt enough

[scenic granite]

how do you know that you chose it as config

@bold sage

[bold sage]

Because you chose doom i assume

[scenic granite]

is that the option thing when you just open it

[bold sage]

You only have doom objects there

Yeah its the dropdown

[scenic granite]

yeah I got it

no sleep last night lol, I appreciate it.

[rocky vector]

nah, tbh looks pretty good

whoops

[haughty flower]

[torn remnant]

stuf

[coarse yarrow]

[wheat crystal]

that looks great!

[novel sand]

Looking good!

[trim gorge]

thanks for the clarification!

[heady knot]

i need a bit of help from yall, im working on another map, but all the entities i place dont appear in game. if anyone can help id be so great-full

[heady knot]

i use ultimate doom builder btw

[bold sage]

You might have set them to only appear on one difficulty

[heady knot]

ill check that

[heady knot]

that was the entire issue

[glacial skiff]

Moved Ylfe to GZDoom; Doom 64 lighting has made the pain worth it

[haughty flower]

ok i wanna use this mod but how ??

I never used mod before

[haughty flower]

[haughty flower]

plz som1 tell how i use mods in doom 2

plz

[sage totem]

stop being an idiot and do some research, thats how

[coarse yarrow]

yes

[haughty flower]

It's fairly simple once you know how to.

There's even 3rd party wad loaders out there.

[haughty flower]

yeha thank you for that information

now i can use mods

[short ginkgo]

is this the channel for "Can it run DOOM?" Posts?

[unkempt loom]

Nope

[short ginkgo]

does this server have such a channel?

[short ginkgo]

thank you

[unkempt loom]

Not directly, but If you want to show that you managed to play it on different devices then welcome to #showroom-archive

[haughty flower]

do a glory kill mod for classic dooms

plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz

[unkempt loom]

There's already some mods for
Just look for them

[haughty flower]

can you plz forward them ??

[unkempt loom]

Nope, I'm kina busy now

[haughty flower]

ok bye

[unkempt loom]

Bye!

[sick burrow]

just got into map making, gonna start by making something neat

[celest steeple]

now that's good.

[sick burrow]

would anyone happen to know why the SKY1 through 3 dont work as skybox textures?

[novel sand]

You need to use F_SKY1

Use that for the ceiling to make a "skybox"

If you want to have the sky go down the walls, you need to make another sector around the outside, give that F_SKY1 as a ceiling as well, make the floor and ceiling the same height, and leave the texture blank

[sick burrow]

is f_sky1 the only one that works? i wanted to use the same skybox from the hell on earth levels

[glacial skiff]

Are you using ZDoom or a derivative

If so, you have two options; one of which is line effect 190

[sick burrow]

yeah gzdoom doom 2

oh cool let me test that

im still really unfamiliar w most of this, would crtl c and middle clicking preserve these configs to the other lines?

[glacial skiff]

Generally yes

[sick burrow]

wait, i could just use copy properties, select all of the lines and paste right

[glacial skiff]

Not sure what you mean

[sick burrow]

hold on let me see if this worked

nope

oh right

close enough

[novel sand]

If you're using a GZDoom format you could just change which sky the level references using Mapinfo...

Then just use the basic F_SKY1 method to make your skybox

[sick burrow]

I am so unbelievably confused

[solar brook]

Hey @haughty flower please use the showroom for that in the future! Thanks :)

If you want to notify people in a specific channel about a "Channel Topic related" Stream just write something like:
Hey im doing XYZ on XYZ-Platform now, check it out in #showroom-archive

[cunning whale]

What software you guys use?

And does it allow to make customable sprites?

[bold sage]

I assume youre on about classic doom

Most people use a variant of doom builder 2 for mapping and slade for whatever else

[odd cradle]

is anyone up for helping with sprites for a mod im making. i cant pay but i can give you nitro

[celest steeple]

interesting. What type of mod are you making?

[odd cradle]

dababy mod. i want someone to turn the enemy sprites into different photos of dababy. i already have the soundtrack done

[celest steeple]

that would be awesome!

quick question, do you have any enemy sprites done already, and what version of doom will this be on?

[odd cradle]

doom 2 and no i have no idea how to do sprites but i do have ideas. pls dm me soon so we can coordinate

[celest steeple]

ok

[haughty flower]

will the dababy convertible be an enemy please

[odd cradle]

YES

[cunning whale]

Is there a link to it or something?

[eternal tartan]

Hello can anyone point me into the direction of good guides for learning how to map for Doom 2, and Sprite editing?

[cunning whale]

You want to do that too

[eternal tartan]

@cunning whale Should i just stick to learning mapping before even thinking about sprite editing?

[cunning whale]

Really now?

[cunning whale]

If so what is the name of the software that can you map?

[eternal tartan]

@cunning whale Doom Builder 2 is that good for a beginner?

[cunning whale]

Ok

I'll try it out

[eternal tartan]

? No I don't know how to map sorry if I confused you I want to learn how to.

[cunning whale]

Oh me too

I especially want to learn sprite making

Like make my own animations like Brutal Doom did

[eternal tartan]

Ok cool it's crazy how the Doom mapping/modding community is still going strong all these year's later!😀

[cunning whale]

Really now?

[cunning whale]

I sure hope ultimate doom builder doesn't cause computer problems?

[cunning whale]

How do I get the textures for my doom builder?

Cus I want to get started on the fun

[cunning whale]

Seriously who do you get all the map textures for doom builder?

[eternal tartan]

You need a Wad file i have a physical copy of Ultimate Doom, and Doom 2 on CD from the late 90's.

[cunning whale]

really how get i that?

actually i got some wads like doom 1 and 2

but unfornately i don't have characters like Spider Mastermind or Cyberdemon

[cunning whale]

i kinda of got the hang of the doom builder stuff

now i want to do something like this

[haughty flower]

I'm pretty sure they open sources the original doom game files

They're probably on archive.org

@cunning whale

[bold sage]

no theyre not

the doom .wad files arent free

you can buy it on steam or pretty much anywhere else

[novel sand]

Doom's source code is open source. The games themselves aren't.

It's why source ports are legal

[eternal tartan]

That custom demon looks interesting.

[unkempt loom]

It's actually whiplash

[eternal tartan]

Whiplash from doom eternal right?

[unkempt loom]

Indeed

[eternal tartan]

Awesome

[cunning whale]

Correct

[fair bolt]

Wait, someone made a Classic Whiplash? Nice.

[cunning whale]

Yep

And I want to make something like that too

[fair bolt]

Oh? Which demon?

[eternal tartan]

Going to mess around with doom builder after work I made a small wad yesterday lol. It was fun, but I have not figured out how to end the wad so once I killed all the monsters I checked out the atmosphere of the wad.🙂

[bold sage]

Dont think you can do that

Unless its a specific demon type and on a certain map

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Tag_666

[eternal tartan]

I didn't put a switch to end the level so I just walk back through to see if my texture were all lined up. Thanks I will check this out.

[trim gorge]

Hey all, if you feel like booting DOOM 2016 again and having a fresh new experience, please try my map out DOOMBORNE V0.1 (I know, very creative name)

• Heavily inspired by dark souls and bloodborne (gameplay & level design)
• RPG progression system : kill demons to collect their souls. spend souls to upgrade specific aspects of your character. repeat
• Stamina system tied to movement speed
• Every single enemy and asset is hand placed to create interesting encounters
• Learn how to melee since you wont have enough bullets to kill everything
• Leaderboard system based on how well you perform
• You will die A LOT

If that sound interesting/different enough to you, the map ID is:
LSQNMR9H

preview of the map

It's still v0.1 so a lot of room for improvements. Please send me your feedback if you have any!

[cunning whale]

guys

i got something called WhackEd4

[cunning whale]

So how do I edit one of the sprites?

[cunning whale]

how do i edit characters on slade?

[timid spade]

Is it possible to program a health pool for doom 2 that is deducted from before armor and normal health? I procrastinate much on doomagicka.

[cunning whale]

Ookk