classic-doom-maps-mods

[brave hemlock]

there's no actual sliding sadly

[subtle raptor]

damn

have no idea how they did some of those wiggly basses then

[brave hemlock]

could always just open an iwad in slade and convert the mus to midi and see how it's done

[subtle raptor]

true, think i actually have some doom midis already...

[brave hemlock]

placing a couple notes on top of each other probably

like a chord kinda but just transitioning

[subtle raptor]

don't think there was much else

thanks a ton

[knotty fable]

I know I don't talk here like at all but

help?????
I have no idea what causes this
Closest thing to a reason could be that I accidentally ran this with both ultimate doom builder and slade open at the same time but like, surely there's something I can do about it????

not sure if I need to send my wad file or not for this (if I do, just ask and I'll send it here)

[onyx scroll]

I wanna say GZDoom Jank L GZDoom but I have actually 0 clue what happened

[knotty fable]

that is veryyyyy concerning

I might just try copying/pasting the whole thing into another file and seeing if that fixes it though

[onyx scroll]

are you trying to modify your IWAD or something??

if so- don't

[knotty fable]

I did not touch the iwad at all
I think the most I did was add like an mp3 file to soundinfo to see if that worked???
I guess that could be it???
I really have no idea at this point

[onyx scroll]

I don't either tbh

check the hashes of your IWAD just to double check I suppose

[whole blade]

you've definitely scuffed your iwad somehow. reinstall time

on the remote chance it's the port doing something weird, try run it in a different port

but having the same file open in 2 different programs is a very good way to break things

[brave hemlock]

that's only when one's writing to it no?

[lost quest]

Hey @onyx scroll, I'm having a problem. I tired to import a couple of textures from Heritic (because they're neat and go with the 'ancient ruins' theme I have for a little side project) but for some reason they won't show up in the 3D viewer (though they will in-game). Let me show you:

There doesn't seem to be a major functional problem, but it is very annoying to work with.

[onyx scroll]

I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly why tbh

[lost quest]

And in-game:

[onyx scroll]

wait

[lost quest]

Yeah, it's weird. I mean, I can work with it, it's just annoying.

[onyx scroll]

add the WAD as a resource

[lost quest]

The whole wad?

[onyx scroll]

yeah

[lost quest]

In UDB or SLADE?

[onyx scroll]

UDB
not Heretic btw

your PWAD

that should allow you to see the textures in-editor

[lost quest]

You know, that could not have possibly made it worse.

I removed Heretic from the resources and now I'm back to square 1.

Oh, I did add my PWAD to the resources, it did not work.

Also, it's a pk3 directory like how you told me.

Maybe I could compile my textures as their own WAD and use that as a resource?

[onyx scroll]

I guess?

[lost quest]

Cool. I have no idea how to do that and I probably wont, I'll just live with this weirdness (and it is very weird, because that Ghostbustery level has perfectly working imported textures).

In other news, is there a way to import the Heretic torch and chaneleer Things? I know that is considerably more complicated, but they're cool and I like how they look.

[onyx scroll]

I honestly don't know

I'd assume you'd be replacing sprites of certain decoration Things

[lost quest]

Yeah, probably, but that sounds like work, and the whole reason I started working on this is that I was getting a little tired of the Ghostbustery thing (I have this annoying habit of making things way too big and unwieldy, when I really should be sticking a little smaller). I could send you the WIP if you want to see what I've done so far, and maybe give feedback? It's really the ending I'm having trouble with.

[onyx scroll]

if I wanted to spend a while setting up GZDoom, sure, maybe

but I would rather not bash my head into the wall right now trying to get that mess configured

[lost quest]

Did you get the new update? I just did, and have mixed feelings on the UI. It's cleaner, but it's a little trickier telling if it's loading properly or not.

[onyx scroll]

no, I just don't like GZ

[lost quest]

Fair enough. My level does make extensive use of 3D floors, lineportals, and all that jazz. Though I am going to be cutting back for this side project, and just make a normal "get key to get key" DOOM level for fun.

Well, maybe a few 3D floors here and there... and a portal or two. Ah hell, I'll just wait and see what I do!

[thin schooner]

What’s gz?

[onyx scroll]

GZDoom

[thin schooner]

I see

[spark fossil]

Also known as doom if it was infested with modern propaganda

Oh wow the messages were 2 days old

[idle kite]

Tf you mean propaganda

Propaganda? In my doom?
It’s more common than you’d think.

[brave hemlock]

doom propaganda edition

[plush juniper]

Modern propaganda? wdym

[spark fossil]

Curse of non-literal speech

[plush juniper]

So how hard is it to learn Doombuilder, are there like tutorials and stuff?

[onyx scroll]

I suggest using UDB btw. But the worst part when not using UDMF is trying to find ideas lol. There are tutorials online that you can easily find for any mapping format.

[brave hemlock]

if youve used source hammer before its very similar

assuming not then it's a bit difficult but manageable

[idle kite]

dont be figurative here. most of us are autisticc

3:<

[spark fossil]

im autistic too man

[idle kite]

then y are you being confusing

: (

[spark fossil]

can i not be judged for how i speak?

[idle kite]

you can if none understood what you meant

[spark fossil]

no

now im feeling horrible

[idle kite]

dont feel bad

im sorrgy

apple polish geez

[solemn harness]

YES I DID IT!! (im new to gzdoom and i made it so when you pick up the shotgun the walls around you fall down and imps start killing you)

[haughty flower]

Congrats :D
It'd probably take me a really long time to figure that out, my only experience with mapmaking is cause of 2016 snapmaps

[solemn harness]

same tho, i got help from someone nice on the doomworld forums

[upper drum]

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/singleplayer-map-toxic-citadel

[brave hemlock]

holy i dont even know how to do that

that's really cool i love when maps do that, gives you a sense of "oh shit"

[solemn harness]

yess

[haughty flower]

I tried to make Disassembly Drones into the style of Doom.

[worthy spoke]

[mortal ember]

oh hey that's cool! a real classic

[limber grove]

Murder drones doom 2 mod would be sick ngl

[lilac belfry]

Does anyone know where I can find a pk3 file for Reelism 1?

[haughty flower]

I tried to make the Necronomicon from Evil-Dead into Doom-style

[desert pulsar]

Heretic/Hexen vibes, that's dope

[brave hemlock]

bombonomicon

[raw carbon]

Lol.

[wide tendon]

I know this isn't Technically Classic Doom, But I Hope this is a adequate Channel I can get some help

I'm trying to make a retexture of the Doom 3 Alpha Shotgun, but when I load the game up It crashes

Any idea on what I could be doing wrong?

[wide tendon]

I Got it working, Just needed to use a Completly Difrent Model Port

I tried to make it look a little brighter and less scratchy and steely and remove the details from the Shell ejector
Its Not Great But its a start

[mortal ember]

Look at that, my first Doom Map! idgames is being weird, and despite doing everything right, it's not uploading onto the site. So ill just put the wad here for people to play if they want.

[sacred onyx]

This is it for me

When you figure out something complex in the editor and you feel like a genius 😎

[crystal perch]

new wad in progress

[wide tendon]

Evil plutonia be like:

It looks wonderful. I love the colour scheme

[wide tendon]

A Update To my D3 Alpha Shotty Retexture

Rethinked the main body a little bit and added a wood pump

[crystal perch]

Thanks, the wad is actually egyptian themed!

[wide tendon]

Thats A First For me, ive never seen somthing like that done in doom before

besides the secret level in tnt

[crystal perch]

epic 2

[wide tendon]

Think Ive herd of that, The name sounds familar

Also I hope I dont get in trouble for posting a doom 3 mod in the classic channel, i have nowhere else to put it

Tweaked The Satuataion on the wood and gave it a normal map

Any advice on what I could improve upon it?

[crystal perch]

here's some more!

[wide tendon]

I am off and on making a little wad myself but it's not the greatest, I think map design isn't my strong suit

I'm better at making doom cute rather than making a level that feels fun to play, I think

Texture modding is more my strong suit I think

[crystal perch]

I have some doomcute in this

[mortal ember]

For me, it’s the art direct of the level. I love shading my doom maps, giving them interesting themes, and fitting music tracks (that I sometimes make myself) but level layout and enemy placement can suffer a bit as a result.

but I’d love to pitch in to help some if ya’ll need it

[wide tendon]

A Retexture Of The Imp For My Doom 3 Mod

What Do Ya'll think?

[verbal sun]

Fantastic

[wide tendon]

Thank you!

[wide tendon]

dw I got that fixed

I used a difrent port of the alpha shotgun model and edited those textures and it worked perfictly

No idea why the other one was causing the game to crash

no?

why are you asking

thats Just the idtech launcher

try the dhwem3 source port

https://dhewm3.org/

it suports macOS

I hope that helps!

[haughty flower]

Party's over!

[idle kite]

I really like it when people take the time to support Mac, I know it’s hard but there are people out there like me who are stuck with Mac.

[oblique mountain]

Hello there. How can I launch multiple mods with GZDoom in the recent I + II bundle?

[onyx scroll]

you can just append several files with the -file parameter at once, or use a launcher

[oblique mountain]

I guess GZDoom's launcher won't let me do that, then? What launcher would you recommend, then? I just wanna play pk3 files like Brutal Doom or some WADs, really, idk.

[onyx scroll]

I use my own personal one that's available if you wish to use that. However, I recommend ZDL.

I overall don't recommend using mines anyways, ZDL has much more documentation behind it and a ton of people use it so you can quickly get help

[oblique mountain]

Is that the right launcher?

[onyx scroll]

looks like it

[oblique mountain]

Thank you, thank you.

[onyx scroll]

if you need help setting it up, I can quickly download it and help

[oblique mountain]

I figured it out. Thanks, though.

[idle kite]

headphones warning

[wide tendon]

Doom 3 GE Plus Mancubus Mockup

Its Based on the Dark ages model with the green eyes of the doom 2 sprite

[crimson crescent]

Wow,i like

Does anyone know how to change the messages when you exit the game?

[brave hemlock]

doom: redneck edition

[haughty flower]

No that's supposed to be a reference to Dead Alive aka BrainDead...

[whole blade]

if you mean the "do you want to quit?" prompt you can create your own via mapinfo

[crimson crescent]

I see, thank you very much for your help, before I go, I would like to ask you what the command is or how I execute that in the mapinfo

[whole blade]

https://zdoom.org/wiki/MAPINFO/GameInfo_definition

there's an example at the bottom of the page

[crimson crescent]

Thank you very much friend, I appreciate it very much

[whole blade]

np

[wide tendon]

for Golden Edition Plus A Few Of the Weapon Sounds In doom 3 Have been upgraded Slightly To give it a extra Unf

[wide tendon]

Is anyone familar with extrating files from the BFG Edition?

Im trying to get Sgt. Kelly's textures out and they dont seme to be in the .resources folder

theres just.... This

[coarse parrot]

Does anyone know how I can export Slade color textures to png?, I want to export some Duke Nukem textures that are in a wad :p

[upbeat shard]

Did anybody know that doom could be ran on Kindle tablets with mods?

Me neither until I found out as a little kid when I wanted to play doom without having to use PC or a console

[idle kite]

Turn up the opacity

[wide tendon]

There's a weird thing where for some reason BFG Edition has their textures in a completely different format to RGB and when I try to extract it, it made the blue values, the alpha Channel and completely fucked up the texture

So until I can find a way to properly extract it and convert it correctly, it's screwed up

[coarse parrot]

.

[crimson crescent]

Hey guys, a question, how can I make sure that each time a monster spawns, it is assigned the properties of each time it dies, activate the script

[whole blade]

much easier to do if you use a standard teleporter closet

but if you want to stick with spawning the monsters in, you can assign spawned monsters a TID

and then use this to assign an action
https://zdoom.org/wiki/SetThingSpecial

[crimson crescent]

Thank you very much friend, you saved my life, you are great

[whole blade]

np

[white saddle]

how do you fix this

the texture going in the ground

[tawny gulch]

I was gonna play some Reelism 2 and then this happened, I have no clue what any of this means

[delicate nacelle]

hello

[desert pulsar]

The magic of people saying hello in random channels will never not be funny

[wide tendon]

G'day

[slate maple]

i need to finish this first

6 more levels than i am done,

[haughty flower]

doom + doom II lets you post any mod you want but I want to make a TMNT FPS.

[desert pulsar]

Make them throw pizzas or something idk I never watched it

[haughty flower]

Exactly. Instead raph throws ninja stars instead of shooting bullets, and uses his sai instead of punching

[spark fossil]

https://youtu.be/hYyZv4gJLo0

The level with enemies actually existing

[spark fossil]

It was to show the general level and even then I almost hit the file size limit for uploading files on discord

[keen valley]

You can play with PK3s, you just need to drag the mods ONTO the launcher

[crimson crescent]

buenos dias,tardes y noches amigos mios,queria pedirles un favor,si pudiera probar un mapa que esta en mi mod,si no es mucha molestia,es para que me digan que tal esta

[whole blade]

i'm assuming you're mapping in vanilla/boom in which case you want to draw a sector on the back of the midtex and change the light value by 1. boom/vanilla ports can't increment light by values that small and it'll fix the rendering issue

[royal wave]

https://cbsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3laozp4ybbk24

[idle hound]

Can someone explain the console logging system to me. How does it cycle the logs and what not....

[idle hound]

What do you mean that you are stuck with Mac?

Oh okay, what about getting your own PC now though?

Good PCs are cheap enough now these days. I'm playing DooM 3 on Vega 7 Graphics iGPU. It's not as fast moving as I'd like but it's playable anyway.

I'm using the dhewm3.exe to play through DooM 3 right now. I see some error messages in the console every so oftens so I need to report those to the developers.

[idle hound]

Well, it sounds like Mac it is for now then. Maybe you can move to PC in the future if you are inclined. But it's whatever you prefer.

[eternal sorrel]

cool mod I found that replaces the chainsaw with a lawnmower, and the alt attack is a can of energy drink

[crystal perch]

started something huge

[azure lynx]

im playing myhouse.pk3 and i need help filling up the tub, i have all except one sink and cant find it

wait i just found the shrek pit do i go in the pit or fill the bathtub

i filled the tub but im still wondering which one

[spark fossil]

there is an unofficial speedrun category of myhouse.wad where this mod is mandatory

[eternal sorrel]

yeah, that's where I found the mod lol

[crystal perch]

new progress

[keen shard]

Nice!

[crystal perch]

Thanks!

[signal swift]

Egyptian themed DOOM WAD? Sick

Haven't seen those since Scythe 2 and Epic 2

[worthy crystal]

Couple pics of my maps in NT (necromantic thirst)

[plush juniper]

I know it's satire but damn I hate lawn culture so much

Like big businesses really convinced two whole generations that driving around a gas-guzzling wheelchair that eats plants is based and trad (LOL where did all the bees go?)

[azure lynx]

damn i got ingnored by almost 125k people

[haughty flower]

Almost it didn’t actually happen?

[velvet reef]

You got thats sink in that secret monochrome room?

[brave hemlock]

chill man ive just never played myhouse

[plush juniper]

Myhouse is good

[final plover]

trying to use dsda doom but it says "no iwad" when i run it or a wad with it but gzdoom doesnt do that
how do i fix this

[onyx scroll]

Do you have your IWADs actually in DSDA’s folder?

Because if not AND you’re not using a launcher, that is your issue

[final plover]

oh i see
weird that woof and gzdoom work fine without doing that
any launchers youd suggest?

[onyx scroll]

I use my own personal one, but ZDL works nice apparently

[final plover]

ill check that out
ty

[pure fern]

o

help

[idle hound]

Is this a channel for DooM 3 modding?

[idle hound]

Where is everybody...this is BULLXXXX!!!

[azure lynx]

idk if doom 3 is in it, it could be im new to this server

[brave hemlock]

i think d3 is counted as classic doom

its pre-2016

[desert pulsar]

I don't think it is, the #classic-doom channel doesn't cover anything post-Final. There isn't one probably because of how D3 modding is not all that popular

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lb4427uzts2x

[chrome oxide]

IDK how interested anyone here will be but I'm working on my own soundtrack for DOOM 1993

Original, not a remix

[fickle zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U57WxjR8I4 why does this exist

[eternal sorrel]

I just found out if you run freedoom1.wad with any other wad, you can get the same graphics, sounds, sprites as freedoom, if you put freedoom2.wad tho you will be teleported to the first level of phase 2.

[bitter solstice]

So I'm making a Lomando.com themed Doom wad and I'm starting to conceptualize the early maps with google slides

(Yes i am adding the mutants, and the phantasm from blood cause why tf not)

I haven't gotten the items placed down yet

[sudden monolith]

Ok post your mods that you have already made and new mods ya working on.They are different games too .Also can be general,review other people mods,tutorials,troubleshooting whatever. MODIFYINGEVIL.COM

[bitter solstice]

I am working on this btw

[sour wind]

Who wants to test my map and give feedback, it's my first map and has 2 levels currently and a total of 5 secrets across both, 2 in first level 3 in second

[bitter solstice]

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Kaizo Doom wad like there is Kaizo Mario

[gloomy galleon]

Hi I have a detailed Classic Doom coding question - is anyone here familiar with the code base?

[magic copper]

hey, could could someone help me figure out what's going on with this error my friend is getting?

we're trying to play multiplayer using Doomseeker and Zandronum, but she keeps getting this error

[whole blade]

Make sure they're using the correct zandronum version

Clean install of zandronum might be needed

Failing that, you're better off asking in the brutal doom server because that's where the error is coming from

[haughty flower]

currently working on my first project in a while, do y'all think this area looks good?

I'm currently working on a way to make this area a little less empty.

[cold heath]

my humanoid daisy mugshot and bunny doomguy sprite is up lol, just dropping this here. Feel free to critique or check out, its abit of a hiccup but its the first thing ive released in the public. (Will work on it maybe next year, if i succeed on my final thesis defense).
https://www.moddb.com/mods/hopocalypse/addons/hopocalypse

[cerulean phoenix]

cutee

[royal wave]

https://cbsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lbddrqc2e22v

[bitter solstice]

Aww that's cool

I made SHAWN2 from a prototype of doom have monsters and items for my lomando.com wad

It's map 5 Blossoming Nightmares

I gave a sphere and a backpack at the start so that it's easier

That and pistol starting wouldn't be really hard

I even added some of the ghosts from lomando.com

Elusive and Psychedelic

The phantasm from blood

And the mutants from wolfenstein 3d

And the enemies from legacy of rust

Just adding some variety to the unused level

[haughty flower]

Destroyer Blade (Demo)

[subtle grove]

Morning

And I don't want to go to school should I skip school

[solar brook]

Dont know why u ask this in #classic-doom-maps-mods
Go learn something instead of wasting ur time on discord of all things, kid.

[dusk steppe]

its only a couple of graphic and sound changes but let me know what you think

[magic copper]

Chaingun go brrrrrrr :D

[sour wind]

I've been making my map in doom format instead of udmf.... I'm going to cry, no I have to go through my maps and redo any circuits

[brave hemlock]

i dont see the bunny but the train is extremely cool :3c

[fervent mesa]

doom shieldsaw mod
please if someone can help me with
i have the file but it only work on doom 1 and i dont know how to use the shield

[haughty flower]

Found it

[bitter solstice]

(I kinda think i need more than one invulnerability sphere and add a mega sphere)

For the main map*

[cold heath]

this got updated

• mugshot with bunny ears
• daisy sfx
• player sprite
  play as her, doomguy, and buunguy in setting

working on a seperate companion wad for her before the campaign maps

[bitter solstice]

Is a reference to this

I have been thinking about redrawing the frames for Lacey when she is playable

*The arms

[solar mica]

https://bskyx.app/profile/darsycho.itch.io/post/3lbogqb4dcc2u
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135212-improvisation-no-guns-no-problem-gzdoom-gameplay-mod-091/

[crystal perch]

more progress!

[drowsy plover]

I’ve been trying to play auger zenith in doom 1+2 but saves for that mod won’t load?

[lethal notch]

Keep on the great work

[ornate knoll]

how do i make my textures not look like this

[bitter solstice]

What do you guys think of the enemy placement?

Should i move things around

(Yes, it is all in slides, i dont have a map editor ;^;)

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lby3rz35dk2e

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

I was shown some tricks to get more performance out of my models, and I'm able to render this whole scene without having to hide far away models, which is how I wanted it from the start. #Doom

Bluesky · Nov 28, 2024, 3:11 AM

[solar mica]

"this link is not allowed"
wat. the link was bskyx, i just made a post with bskyx 2 days ago, and nothing happened then

[whole blade]

I doubt it's compatible

[eternal sorrel]

is there any pk3 or wad that shows the uncropped sprites for the weapons?

[slate maple]

"too many monsters, too hard" from a player that picks the hardest difficulty. well yah right?

[bitter solstice]

...probably not the best time to show ya this@slate maple

[slate maple]

well if its a slaughter map then yes i would expect that

[bitter solstice]

Well...

I guess it can be that

[eternal sorrel]

I found a mod that does that (I also used universal weapon sway for it too)

[fleet zealot]

hey everyone, i'm making a remake of DatdudesGuns (my gun mod on doomworld), enchancing some stuff, tweaking it, and so far i've got this, report any bugs you find pls

[bitter solstice]

How do you mod an enemy from a different game like a mutant from wolfenstein 3d or the Phantasm from blood, just asking, thank you

[knotty fable]

Does anyone know how to toggle overtype in the ultimate doom builder script editor?

I keep turning it on by accident and can’t turn it off, it’s really annoying

[sand dragon]

does anyone know any good shitpost mods for doom

im bored n shit

[royal wave]

Mr. Fujiwara’s Office

[bitter solstice]

Look up any Terry wad thats popular

[bitter solstice]

Nice pfp btw 😊👍

[whole blade]

You have to pull all the individual assets (sprites, sounds etc) and then code it from scratch (dehacked, decorate or zscript depending on your chosen port)

[whole blade]

Plutonia 7

[bitter solstice]

So z script is for gz doom?

[whole blade]

Ye

[bitter solstice]

Okay

That's going to be a long time since i don't have any experience in programming, so i was (and still am) waiting for a programmer to help in

We were also going to plan out a character select screen

As well

But I'll have to put that on hold until we get one

[sand dragon]

thanks

[bitter solstice]

I have tried out the og game (it's a bullet sponge, and its hard and read the creepypasta)

[royal wave]

Be the change you wish to see:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-36gm0W-VKl89pw9lUfF36TJ28bjrNUn

[bitter solstice]

Oh

(Convenient, but effective)

[bitter solstice]

Thx, but we'll take stuff one at a time

[gaunt lotus]

Poogers and Twogers

[velvet reef]

idk why but my map on doom builder keeps crashing

27000 cyberdemons its not that deep bro

[bitter solstice]

Okay thats satisfying

[iron mesa]

Heyo everyone, a bit of a question,
So I downloaded the Sunder maps but I kinda dunno if Im doing it right, I got the "Doom + Doom II" from steam (Previously just Doom but while being on a long break they added all the episodes etc),
in the menu there i can add wads from my local files.
Seems like I can start the map and play, but then I hear that I should be using "Boom" or "prBoom+" for these kind of maps?

Is this required for maps to not break or can I just run it on vanilla doom?
I dunno how to set up this prBoom stuff so I can play the different wads, so if someone know a good video :D

[royal wave]

if you want the easiest method of running Doom mods, try GZDoom

All you have to do is drag the wad onto gzdoom.exe and it loads

[iron mesa]

Ahh I tried GZDoom a long time ago, but then was kind of on a break for several years and forgot

[royal wave]

Boom and PrBoom+ still rely on the command line method of getting wads to load

They're a bit unituitive if you're not familiar with the command line

[iron mesa]

oh, so GZ I can play it with mouse look etc?

[onyx scroll]

which in my experience is WAY less likely to break

[royal wave]

If you'd like to use mouselook, you can. Or it can be turned off

[iron mesa]

ahh kk

[onyx scroll]

drag/drop usually has issues for me, so I don't do it

can't say for others, though

my personal opinion is use a launcher no matter what port you're running

[iron mesa]

I mean the mouse to look left & right!
I tried free-look on mouse many years ago on a big slaughtermap, but looking around stuff got warped because of some weird perspective

[onyx scroll]

that's not an issue with hardware renderers (OpenGL & Vulkan) btw

also, even the original Doom had mouse support for looking left to right

[iron mesa]

I dragged and dropped a couple of mins ago, but it loads old old doom, only keyboard inputs

[onyx scroll]

what port are you using?

[iron mesa]

ahh okey

humm, I just downloaded prBoom+

[onyx scroll]

PrBoom+ is technically deprecated in favor of DSDA-Doom

so you may want to check out DSDA

which also has a hardware renderer that's damn near identical to software

[iron mesa]

oh damn so its old stuff now

[onyx scroll]

so you can get the benefits of a hardware renderer without sacrificing the look of software

[iron mesa]

ahh okey

[onyx scroll]

I don't personally use DSDA-Doom but it's more than a solid choice

[iron mesa]

Ill check it out gimme a couple of mins

[onyx scroll]

I'd say have GZDoom at least installed even if you end up preferring another port just so you have it in case you want to play a mod that requires it

never a bad idea to have a couple of ports handy at all times

[iron mesa]

yeah true, Initially I had the GZDoom to play some map I found, but it was on ye olde computer wich is no longer in use

[onyx scroll]

I personally heavily dislike GZ for multiple reasons, all of which basically sum up to me being a turbo nerd

but I do keep it installed for that off chance I do play something that requires it

[iron mesa]

Ive been watching some videos from this Decino guy, who were listing bunch of stuff about the prboom, so thats why I initially got it xD

[onyx scroll]

ah

Decino does use DSDA now just an fyi

[iron mesa]

oooooooh

[onyx scroll]

I actually planned on using it as my main port until I ran into a couple of issues I could sadly never fix

the main one being audio issues

[iron mesa]

I was watching those Sunder runs years ago, and somehow I found myself rewatching them and wanted to go die myself for a couple of hours thats why

[onyx scroll]

ah

[onyx scroll]

issues that I only had on specific complevels of DSDA and no other port

so I just settled on Woof and recently Nugget Doom

[iron mesa]

oh damn so many Doooooms I am getting all confused :D

[royal wave]

Just keep in mind there's no correct source port per se, but typically the mods you download will tell you what the "prefered" port is

[onyx scroll]

yeah

or well, preferred renderers in some cases

like Eraser, which pretty much requires a software renderer to be played correctly

some mods may tell you to use a vanilla-accurate software renderer, some may tell you to use a hardware renderer

but there's no wrong in using the "wrong" settings or port

they're mainly suggestions that the map was built around (or well, unless a map uses features specific to that port)

[iron mesa]

hmm but it should be fine to run the Sunder maps on GZ then? ;o

[onyx scroll]

yeah, depending on your specs

it'd probably be better to run it under DSDA-Doom if you got lower specs

[iron mesa]

just tried and it runs and all, just dunno if there would be anything weird with I dunno doors or whatever could go wrong xD

ahh computer is fine I guess spent wayy too much on it D:

[onyx scroll]

I'd say it'd be fully playable under GZ

if you wish to use GZ, I'd say demo it

just note if you care about it being more vanilla, GZ will never give you that

even with Doom (Strict) there's too many things changed to be considered vanilla

[iron mesa]

will them demons accidentally fall down ledges on GZ ?

from rocket explosion

[onyx scroll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not an expert on GZ tbh

[iron mesa]

me neither, I more or less always just played vanilla doom up until recently

[onyx scroll]

what port did you use, then?

[iron mesa]

im on GZ atm snooping around in the settings

[onyx scroll]

I mean when you played vanilla

or did you just use the DOS executables through DOSBBOX?

[iron mesa]

OH, humm I meant I was playing the vanilla doom hehe, the classic stock levels, only tried one custom map before ever(with GZ, but this was years ago)

[onyx scroll]

oh, that'd be vanilla maps, not complete vanilla

[iron mesa]

oooh okoke

[onyx scroll]

true vanilla is running the original EXEs

[iron mesa]

Im new to all this so I might sound weird in how I phrase everything

[onyx scroll]

but now adays vanilla just mainly means a demo can be replayed through the DOS version

so the original limits, movement, RNG, etc.

[iron mesa]

ah ye, I use the one through steam atm, though I had a dirt old gameboy advance version in the past ;D

aahh I see

[onyx scroll]

the official ports do NOT fall under this category

especially the new KEX (Doom + Doom 2) port

seeing it uses ID24 and not vanilla

... yeah modding can be a tad confusing

you'll eventually get used to it, though

just takes a good amount of time and research to understand it all

[iron mesa]

aah so the steam version Doom + Doom 2 is "KEX"

[onyx scroll]

yes

unless you're running the DOS option

[iron mesa]

naah not the dos option

[onyx scroll]

then that's vanilla as it uses the original EXEs

[iron mesa]

ah okey

[onyx scroll]

I could explain this better

Demos are basically just recordings of player input, pretty much

due to how the engine works (mainly the RNG), assuming the demo is being played back on the same port it got recorded on, it'll playback just fine

however, for example, you try playing back a Boom demo on vanilla, or vice versa

the demo would then desync due to the differences in each engine

[iron mesa]

the rng would be all screwed up ?

ooooo

[onyx scroll]

yeah, among other things, but RNG is a major factor in desync

so that's also why complevels exist in some ports

for two reasons
1: You can play back demos properly
2: You can play maps made for any complevel the port supports

so if you record a demo in a vanilla accurate port (or complevel), it should play back with zero desync on the original DOS exes

However, this becomes an issue as soon as limit-raising/removing ports come in

[iron mesa]

ahh the lost souls :D

[onyx scroll]

they can have everything else vanilla accurate, except the hard-coded limits

[onyx scroll]

not exactly in this case, actually

although that is another limit that can break vanilla demo compat

[onyx scroll]

so if you ran a demo that's played on a map that requires raised/removed limits, it will not run on the original EXEs

so they're usually just called limit-removing in that case

and then there's the other complevels like Boom, MBF, MBF21, and ID24

if you're not caring much for demo accuracy but want more vanilla gameplay, you could always just run a port like DSDA-Doom or Woof with MBF21 always set as the complevel

[iron mesa]

hmm I saw on a video that the prBoom had quite alot of different comp levels, though since its outdated I shouldnt pay to much attention to that stuff I guess

[onyx scroll]

as the neat thing about all 4 of those standards is that they are fully compatibile with the previous standard (so MBF is compatible with Boom and vanilla, MBF21 is compatible with anything MBF is compatible with, etc)

[iron mesa]

Ill check out the DSDA as well

[onyx scroll]

that video is still good knowledge imo

the concepts transfer among ports usually

[iron mesa]

I find all of em interesting and entertaining as well

[onyx scroll]

with the exception of the compatibility menu, which got removed in DSDA-Doom, everything from that video still overall applies

and also applies to other ports like Woof

[iron mesa]

at some point Id like to get into the mapping, though I have never ever done it in doom before, just Half-Life, more or less a lifetime ago

[onyx scroll]

your skills with Hammer will somewhat transfer over to Doom Builder

you'd just need to learn the formats and what is best for your project and what ports support what formats

[iron mesa]

yes hammer haha, tbh there is probably something newer better nowdays, Ive been gone for too long :')

[iron mesa]

mm yes, I imagine getting the hang of size of stuff so it looks decent

though Im guessing, the formats? depending on what type of wad its gonna be, then different ports would fit better?

[onyx scroll]

a general rule I follow is this

• Vanilla: pretty much everything with the exception of a few ports that may break a few bugs that are exploited
• Limit-Removing: anything that removes the limits of the base engine
• Boom: DSDA-Doom, Woof, anything ZDoom based iirc
• MBF: Same deal as Boom
• MBF21: Same deal as boom with the exception not all ZDoom based ports will have compatibility for this as it's much newer
• ID24: Pretty much only KEX and limited support in GZDoom and Woof atm
• UDMF: pretty much just GZDoom now adays

[onyx scroll]

basically each "tier" you go down gives you more control/freedom over your maps, I guess

that's just the simplest way to explain it without getting into details I may not know myself

[iron mesa]

hmm I see

[onyx scroll]

I would say learn anything other than UDMF or ID24 first

ID24 because of it's limited compatibility with ports atm

UDMF due to it's extensive feature set

so you can get more experience making maps rather than messing with a ton of systems at once

[iron mesa]

Ill give the GZ and DSDA some time, feel stuff out then!

[onyx scroll]

yeah, good idea tbh

[iron mesa]

yeah I dont wanna get overwhelmed right at the start hah

[onyx scroll]

yeah, once you feel comfortable then move to UDMF

well, if you wish/need to, that is

my personal advice is to pin down exactly what you'll need out of your maps and choose format based on that

[iron mesa]

yeapp, just gonna be something small and very simple to begin with

[onyx scroll]

but yeah, moving from Vanilla to Boom and to Boom to MBF(21) isn't as much of a jump as it is moving straight to UDMF

when I say it gives you the most freedom, I do really mean it

so yeah, learn gradually

[iron mesa]

alrighty!

[onyx scroll]

I do need to be heading to bed, however

[iron mesa]

yeah same, just gotta fiddle around with this GZ a tiiiny bit more before I go :)

Thanks alot for all the information btw, really appreaciate it :D

[whole blade]

UDMF is supported by gzdoom, eternity, zdoom, zandronum and dsda

(File format is different to port features)

[onyx scroll]

Completely forgot about DSDA tbh, should’ve also just said (some) ZDoom-based ports. Didn’t know about Eternity, actually.

[whole blade]

Yeah dsda is relatively new

Last 12 months or so

It's good, unlocks things like flat alignment

[onyx scroll]

I should look into UDMF a bit more, honestly

Not really a mapper but still a good idea to look into

[whole blade]

Lots of quality of life stuff

[flat harness]

UDMF is just the text format that stores map data, the specific features of which you'll be using depend on the target source port's "UDMF namespace". for example, UDMF by default specifies the default "doom" namespace as containing the features from Vanilla, Boom and MBF (not sure myself if it has since updated to support MBF21). other ports however can implement their own namespace with their own features, so ZDoom-UDMF is different than DSDA-UDMF which is different than Eternity-UDMF. the format is so flexible, in fact, it has even seen use in Nightdive's Killing Time Resurrected for its levels

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-10

[pastel seal]

Hey doom community I want you to give me the best megawads you can think of so I can try them out thx doomers

[gentle cedar]

does any body know how to make a post on doom world?

[storm charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znBuELUq-2E

[glossy spade]

I'm getting back to classic doom mappin

you guys know how I can flip the sides of a linedef in UDB ?

nvm I found lol

[whole blade]

Press 'F' to pay respects and flip linedefs

[storm charm]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/149803-ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-umkdxl-10-release-thread/?tab=comments#comment-2875576

official thread

[slate maple]

trying to get GPT to make a sprite sheet, not giong so well

[whole blade]

That's because chat gpt is a pile of shit

[slate maple]

yah im trying to train it right now, my work has some "premium" version of it, lets see what happens for fun.

my megawad that i plan to finish this year, is a template for another game i want to make.

[whole blade]

Or you could sprite properly

MS Paint would do a better job the genai garbage

[bitter solstice]

Finally drawed out what i think what map 30 should be for my mod on the slides

And i am planning to add vasagos in the second half of the mod

[ebon canyon]

Will you guys get interested in a map with an underground cult like slaughterhouse ?
Im working on a map in that theme and i need some inspiration aswell in level design if u have anything u like to see in a lvl im open to suggestions

[bitter solstice]

That legit remind me of blood for a second there

[quick rose]

hello from japan
its 0:30 am in Japan!
now I’m making my MEGAWAD’s map

[bitter solstice]

Get some sleep

[crimson crescent]

Hello, good morning, good afternoon and good evening, how are you? I hope you are well, I wanted to ask one of you if you would like to join my project, I am making a parody type mod for zdoom and I would like a little help with what be it, in maps, in script or in slade, please and thank you for reading and sorry for disturbing.

[plush juniper]

Need help finding a Doom wad I played back in...I wanna say late 2017? It was three maps, was made to commemorate a member of the doomworld forums who died. One of the levels had birthday music playing

[royal wave]

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/projkate

[plush juniper]

Thank you

[royal wave]

https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2024/index/

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lcxvcoss5s2e

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

Not quite sure what I'm cooking here, but I like it so far.

Bluesky · Dec 10, 2024, 6:40 PM

[sterile schooner]

Oh hey, that looks really cool! Reminds me a bit of Moonside from EarthBound, I love it!

[royal wave]

that's exactly the look I'm going for

[storm charm]

UMKDXL will have a new DM arena: The Forest Temple

V1.1

[dull plume]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/149964-evil-anomaly-new-doom-2-udmf-singleplayer-level/?tab=comments#comment-2877517

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-11#downloadsform

[lost flame]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132011-gregs-gargantuan-gadventure-of-glory-gaffes-and-garbage-rc21-finally-fixed-the-weather-bug/

[violet thistle]

making the worst, most abhorrent, downright awful WAD because of a joke in a discord server im in
very early screenshot of gameplay, if you know what this is im sorry

i walk 100 rooms of slop

[sour wind]

sigh

Mental anguish

[bitter solstice]

Backrooms lore

[crystal perch]

More progress!

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3ldjxtk3pl22q

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

This is not My House. #Doom

Bluesky · Dec 17, 2024, 11:13 PM

[royal wave]

https://cbsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3ldk5odag7c2q

[brave hemlock]

someoneelseshouse.wad

[sacred onyx]

I've made a map that uses OTEX, and I've added the whole OTEX pack to my WAD in Slade, to ensure I don't miss anything out when adding textures.

Except now my file size is huge - what's the fastest way in Slade to delete the parts of OTEX that I'm not using?

[whole blade]

Easier to add the textures you are using

You can sort UDB's texture library to show used textures first

[sacred onyx]

Yeah I already do that

If removing everything from Slade and adding them that way is the easiest way to do it then I guess I'll give that a shot

I also had an issue where adding the textures in SLADE caused UDB to not recognize my map, which made me panic! I thought I'd lost everything. Thank god for rolling backups.

[sacred onyx]

Thanks for the advice btw 🙂

[sacred onyx]

Umm, I've tried adding the textures that I'm using but half of them don't show up on the list in SLADE

[cedar tide]

hey guys, I'm trying to make a doom wad however I don't have a copy of the game on my computer, is there another way of creating the maps?

[onyx scroll]

You could always use Freedoom

[haughty flower]

Making a Doom mod based on Murder Drones

I'm BACK!

[cedar tide]

Does the map builder come with freedoom

[latent hatch]

Best to wait and get your hands on a copy of the game I'm afraid

[onyx scroll]

There is no official map builder to begin with. Use Ultimate Doom Builder.

[bitter solstice]

If murder drones and doom existed at the same time, because some humans left earth before doom took place and then after doom 64, murder drones takes place and then earth gets destroyed

But 4000 years before

Doom 2016 and doom eternal take place there

[latent hatch]

What if they just suddenly exist with no explanation and no lore parity at all

[cedar tide]

i wish but i have a mac

[onyx scroll]

Slade 3 would work

[forest kernel]

This FR looks like that game called Lomando idk its some japanese horror game

i mean that character

[bitter solstice]

As a surprise

IT IS!:D it's a Lomando doom mod

[forest kernel]

I would love to try it out!

[bitter solstice]

I got these too

@forest kernel wdy think so far?

[forest kernel]

Well to be honest I've never made a mod but I love to play em and that thing looks hella cool

I've been a fan of Lomando at some point and for sure would like to try this out

[forest kernel]

well map 9 looks kinda fun

[bitter solstice]

i like map 9 tbh

[bitter solstice]

is it okay if i can show you the server that we are currently working on?

[forest kernel]

yeah completely

[bitter solstice]

okay...

[bitter solstice]

This is going to be a improved version of an unused e2m8, the exit room with the banshees is my idea

[rich sierra]

hi guys, im creating my first doom map, am i architecturing right?

[pastel seal]

I don’t know any thing about doom mapping but I have to say it looks amazing

I wanna play it now😀

[rich sierra]

I haven't finished it yet, but it's going pretty well so far

A couple secrets a couple tricks... one involving an archvile. But rn I'm working on a bigger more open area that will have several arenas inside

[dreamy sundial]

yo, can anyone name me some weapon sprite swap mods that only(or mostly) affect visuals, like angled doom for example?

[pastel seal]

Do you think after you have made the map you will post it so other people will play it?

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-111/#8909902

v1.1.1 update

[rich sierra]

evil ass archvile hallway

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-111

had to update again to address an issue with raiden

[crimson crescent]

Hey, does anyone know how to make an ice ball that when it hits the player, they freeze for a while?

[crimson crescent]

Drugs are bad

[honest tide]

ok

[storm charm]

damagetype ice

[crimson crescent]

yes

Ice damage that temporarily freezes the player

[crimson crescent]

Hehe, I just realized, sorry, thanks for the tip bro

[hearty jasper]

Tbh it's looking good

Good job :3

[haughty flower]

I made a sound effect for a mod I was working on called: Murder Drones Damnation
This plays when you pick up the chainsaw
Tho only a 1% chance

[iron mesa]

humm, Anyone know if there is any cheatcode/command to be used in the KEX enginge to restart current level?

[dry mirage]

merry christmas yall, I made a snow themed level. awaiting moderation approval on doom forums so i can post the link

[bitter solstice]

Ooo

[pliant valley]

Just read on Doomworld that GZDoom 4.14.0 breaks MyHouse and prevents it from launching. It's fixable by changing a single line in SLADE: find the file called ZScript, and in line 75 replace weapons.push(int(weap)); with weapons.push(weap);

[storm charm]

the street

[cedar tide]

im honestly shocked nobody made a tai tanga megawad

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3leaowyfpic2g

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

GZChaos 1.4 update! A chaos mod for #Doom! Download here: kevansevans.itch.io/gzchaos

Don't know what a chaos mod is? Watch the trailer here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcSJ...

Bluesky · Dec 27, 2024, 12:05 AM

[brave hemlock]

i keep forgetting to try this

im sorry kev 😭

[royal wave]

Lol, don’t beat yourself up over it

[storm charm]

https://x.com/Mk666Skeletron/status/1872676814847717666

SkeletronMK666 (@Mk666Skeletron) on X

V1.2 is Koming

Twitter · Dec 27, 2024, 4:11 PM

map by user nomi from the doom community

[fierce rapids]

made this doom 64 inspired hud using flexihud for gzdoom

[slate maple]

need to finish my megawad/mod

[old seal]

Voyage Infernal mod: how do I use this mod´s gore w/ other weapons mods pls? somebody able to delete everything (player fem voice, all guns etc) from Voyage Infernal (using SLADE?) so that only gore graphics/sounds (+maybe machreaper blaster and nades) remain? so that the gore is usable w/ all other weapon mods pls? or add the gore to Obliterator weapons mod. thanks

[crimson crescent]

I could do it but it's a lot of work and not only that, but I would also have to delete some sprites or code and so on, but I'll see if I can do it. I don't promise that it will work 100% or that everything you don't need has been deleted.

Hey people, I'm making a doom mod called doomfranx, it's a parody of a youtuber and I would like to have help from people, mostly on the maps, so if anyone would like to help me or support me in something, please send me a message

[old seal]

oh really? that would be soooooooo awesome! thanks

[onyx reef]

guys i need some inspiration for my level so the level is centered around the gimmick that the power goes out go out so you can't go into the exit because theres no power to open the doors so so far, there's a crate maze and once you get the blue key, the level turns dark, and a door opens up so you can go into the maintenence area now im stuck

[crimson crescent]

Well, you could make a mini puzzle where you need to kill a specific enemy or touch some buttons in a specific order so that a door opens and you can activate the light.

[onyx reef]

well the level should be longer than a mini puzzle, im thinking more about the enviorment

[crimson crescent]

Sorry bro, I couldn't do it, I got really confused and in the end I decided not to rack my brains trying to figure out how things work.

[onyx reef]

what i thought about is that you just have to press three switches to turn on the backup generator or something

[onyx scroll]

I guess you could do that?

should be a simple Keen setup

[onyx reef]

doom 1 mod

[onyx scroll]

Voodoo dolls, then

[onyx reef]

also vanilla compatible

[onyx scroll]

well, actually might not really be possible if you're not working in Boom

[crimson crescent]

It seems fine to me, although I would tell you to put unique sections, such as in one part you have to enter a ventilation duct because the door is closed.

[onyx reef]

that sounds cool

[onyx scroll]

hmm, I could think of something in those limitations

like if you want to damage the player you could use explosive barrels for the generator switches

[onyx reef]

i was thinking it just lifts up some stairs one step for each switch

[crimson crescent]

Or else you may have to follow some colored lights to tell you where you have to go.

[onyx scroll]

explain with the player getting electrocuted or something

[onyx scroll]

colored lighting would be impossible

[crimson crescent]

Better see if you can make an animation for each switch or every time you activate one, the lights turn on and so on.

[onyx reef]

nah what happens is some imp scratches the wires so you have to get the steps to it which is in different rooms for some reason

switches to the stair

[crimson crescent]

use the false techniques of the powerful sectorcolor or the textures

[onyx scroll]

I guess?

[crimson crescent]

I see

[onyx scroll]

I can think of something, hold on

[crimson crescent]

I don't know, they can use some false technique to give illusions like I normally do, use the color change of the sector combined with a color transfer to a sector and that's it.

[crimson crescent]

Ok

[onyx scroll]

Doom 1 Vanilla format is rough to work in tbh

[crimson crescent]

or I see

[onyx scroll]

like if it was Vanilla Doom 2 I'd know exactly how to implement Ben's multi-switch idea

[onyx reef]

dummy sectors let me do alot of things

i think ill just have stairs that are raised up with every swicth

[onyx scroll]

well, I guess you could just block off the door to the generator

[onyx scroll]

oh yeah, that works as well

[onyx reef]

each stair will be sent to the next higher floor with a dummy sector (for the win) that has the height it needs to go to

[crimson crescent]

Or I see, they are using the original doom without using some source port like zdoom or something like that for the maps, then yes, it will be more complicated for them

[onyx scroll]

Boom would allow for voodoo dolls and moving floors

but well, he's working vanilla-compat so yeah

though the voodoo doll thing could maybe work for something

[onyx reef]

if i used boom i would use voodoo dolls so much

[onyx scroll]

like a Half-Life style health station?

[onyx reef]

no

[crimson crescent]

Well, I recommend putting a sector where you have to get into ducts, one where you have to follow the lights of the lamps and another where you have to guide yourself by the light of the sun and so on.

[onyx reef]

but thats a cool idea

[onyx scroll]

damn

it'd be a cool secret imo

[onyx reef]

i already had a vent section in the first level so i'll make this one minimal

[onyx scroll]

you could shove in a hidden berserk or supercharge like that

[onyx reef]

i think it'd be cool to have a health area with a berserk administer that i can use a voodoo doll for

ill put that in this level like a med station

[crimson crescent]

Well, I already tried to help, I will continue working on my super trash mod (just kidding, I will go to sleep until something occurs to me and I feel like it), see you later, take care

[onyx reef]

u gonna have EAT DRAWM

[crimson crescent]

Yes

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doomfranxcom

[onyx scroll]

okay, I know you don't wanna use it but I got a concept I wanna share

you can find the eye switches to "eat" their eye to regain health

[crimson crescent]

Are you telling me or who?

[onyx scroll]

just as a general statement, that's all

well, it was also directed towards Ben a bit

[crimson crescent]

Oh, I see, it helps me a lot, thanks brother for the advice

[cold heath]

Daisy companion 1.0 is finally released! She can do more stuff now unlike last time where she can only follow and shoot.

• she can die and be revived
• she can give you loot
• has some idle animations
• can shoot fireballs and punch demons
• still shoot via her gun
  https://www.moddb.com/mods/hopocalypse/addons/kemonomimi-daisy-companion-doom-mod

[old seal]

np, thanks for trying

[old seal]

as for the 2 mods (Voyage Infernal's gore + Obliterator weapons) merger: I got it working more or less (gore, sounds etc) when I load Obliterator mod and altered Voyage Infernal mod together. the only problem now is that I can not change weapons using 3,4,5,6,7 and next weapon keys. the correct weapon from Obliterator is selected only when I pick up a weapon or if I run outta ammo. any ideas how to fix the weapon switching pls? something to do w/ the weaponslot definition maybe? somebody able to delete guns 2-7 from the Voyage Infernal mod pls? thanks

[cerulean chasm]

Guys

Who have gun test map?

For gzdoom 1.9.1

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-13

Johnny Cage Update

[storm charm]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-cage-mortal-kombat-gif-22408654

[sharp panther]

im trying to add a custom demon and i keep getting this error in udb:
Failed to apply MAPINFO DoomEdNum override "69420 = samplename": failed to find corresponding actor class...
my function is named correctly and gzdoom.pk3 is loaded before my custom demon is loaded

[half owl]

first attempt to make doom mod:
import music from IDKAE to doom

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lesbw6pynk25

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

Talking f̶̭̒í̸͍x̶̣͝è̶ͅș̴̓ everything

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Bluesky · Jan 3, 2025, 12:00 AM

[boreal turret]

am i allowed to post raw wad maps into here? i tried sending them in a google drive folder since i thought it would be strange otherwise

[bitter solstice]

My first map with a help from a friend:3

The small train is done by Haidar 07

Although the exit might be different cause i forgot to save it

It still has the archvile trap

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-13

Changelog
 1.4 - BFG balances
- Tremor's Stilagtite attack now does more aoe damage
- Sektor's BFG Missile now tracks enemies
- Noob's Telefrag Attack now fires a bfg ball.
- Kotal Kahn's bfg Light Beam projectile now explosive.
Features:
- XLMON1.3 will include a new monster to replace the cacodemon, witch is the evil monk.
- Color Remapped the Pain Elemental Sprites
- MK_XL_MAPS_13 has two returning maps: "The Pit", and "The Balcony"
Nerfs:
- After ripping out a monster's heart in the MKMON1.4 monster mod, you will loose Xray after ONE heart rip.```

[haughty flower]

I'm taken Tribute Quilt template map.

[sharp panther]

this is STILL happening btw

[sharp panther]

it seems like its a problem with the map type, as udb doesnt support zdoom or gzdoom formats for doom 1, only doom 2. wtv

and decorate is weird and confusing so, yeah idk. doom 2 it is, most people make doom 2 mods more than doom 1 anyway

[random bluff]

Is anyone familiar with the project brutality master build console functions?

[pale cloak]

D O O T

[prime shore]

Heck yeah rip and doot until it is done

[pale cloak]

Breaking news: fat supersonic italian pizza man goes to abandoned UAC base with a portal to hell itself to destroy any demons that can possibly destroy his pizzeria, locals say he's crazy, and say that the man claims to have destroyed an entire tower of pizza.

[turbid leaf]

Does anyone know which DOOM mod is as equivalent to this 'movie?'

[haughty flower]

Ive tried playing Postal: Red letter day mod but it doesnt work

can som1 help me?

[crimson crescent]

Have you tried to test with other source ports? You can try with older or newer versions of gzdoom or try with lzdoom or zdoom

[onyx scroll]

More than likely just roll back the GZ version tbh

if I actually used GZ I'd give you better info if there was any

yeah, looks like you need a version prior to 4.11

[crimson crescent]

Hehe I hope this information we gave you helps you, friend @haughty flower

[haughty flower]

I got it there was a demo file I put in too which didnt work

[crimson crescent]

Damn, an incredible mod is coming

[crimson crescent]

Hehe

[haughty flower]

How do i change wad directory on gzdoom, im trying to mod doom 1 and 2, ones from/on steam. and gzdoom choses the directoriy where my wads are for doom I+II

[onyx scroll]

Well, that should be the directory you want anyways. I can look into it but I do suggest using a launcher like ZDL.

[haughty flower]

But i want my iwads in a seperate folder from my steam directory.

Im going to be modifing the iwads and still want to play the og version on steam and not my own version

[onyx scroll]

Don't modify the IWADs directly

that is a very, very horrible idea

always use PWADs or pk3 archives for modification

hell, I think even Slade will just straight up prevent you from modifying the IWADs

but yeah, ZDL is a good choice for what you want

[haughty flower]

Yo, arent you the dude that made that new port?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah

it ain't much, though

[haughty flower]

Really nice thing you did there.

[onyx scroll]

would barely call it it's own thing to be quite honest

[haughty flower]

But its easier to play my doom mods now

[onyx scroll]

also, if you decide to use ZDL

just note I have not used it in a long while, since I've started using my own launcher

so my ability to assist with issues on it may be low

[haughty flower]

k

[crimson crescent]

?

[pale cloak]

erm actually it's a mod that released a while ago, it's called bring your own class, i just played it with legacy of rust somehow

[crimson crescent]

Ok, I thought it was a mod in development, a thousand apologies

[prisma steppe]

hey, does anyone know what Save Failed attempt to save pointer to unhandled type NativeStruct means and how i can fix it? it only occurs when i use zdl, i was just trying to quicksave but it didn't work, and this pops up instead

[bitter solstice]

Yes this is a part of map 6 and it's not batim but into a doom mod;^;

If only...

[old seal]

where are the names of individual maps stored within a wad (other than dehacked and uimapinfo) pls? thanks

[crystal vector]

whoa

[old seal]

+how do I make water in a sector 8 points deep pls? is it determined by floor texture only? thanks

[onyx scroll]

It's basically just MAP01, MAP02, etc. or E1M1, E1M2, etc. for Ultimate Doom

[old seal]

intermission screen names = CWILVxx graphics

[runic breach]

does any1 know any mods or wads with an ultrasaturated cruelty squad-esque art style

[bitter solstice]

I mean...

It could happen, people can make really cool things by modding really great things

[elfin tangle]

LMG fun

[plucky plume]

im new to making doom mods and i was wondering if i could get any help as i have no idea what im actually doing i want to make like a tower where you fight your way to the top floor but dont know how to nake layered levels like stairs n stuff

[onyx scroll]

If you’re making a vanilla, Boom, or MBF(21) level this isn’t possible. If you want room-over-room you’ll need GZDoom UDMF

You could get away with Boom silent teleporters but it’d be a real damn thing to set up properly

Probably the best example of that I’ve see is with Overboard

[plucky plume]

thats what im using dude

I only wanna make a mod for gzdoom

[onyx scroll]

I'd help further if I actually knew GZDoom/UDMF specific stuff. When I rarely create stuff, it's exclusively for the former 4 formats I mentioned

like I guess you could check the ZDoom wiki but I'm unsure

[plucky plume]

i need someone to make custom weapons for me and item usages the idea is based off of a dream i had lol i want the play to shoot through about 24floors of a building fighting a bunch of junkies to the top fllor where he will be met with a boss fight and i want a crack pipe to the only way to heal up but it also gives you extra damage protection with its own animation to use it

[onyx scroll]

If you're referring to custom weapon sprites, you can usually find some to use on realm667

[plucky plume]

i wanna make my own but idk what the engine uses

[onyx scroll]

if you're referring to the actual scripting (if any, depending on what you're looking for), you could look for ZScript documentation

[plucky plume]

i like the sprites grezzodue 2 uses lol

[onyx scroll]

because depending how simple the weapon is, it could just be a very simple DeHackED patch

like if you want to just make the firerate faster, for example

[plucky plume]

i want mainly melee weapons

[onyx scroll]

though for the more complex weapons, ZScript would be your answer

[onyx scroll]

Probably better to use ZScript, then

[plucky plume]

idk how to sript im just a mapper

[onyx scroll]

I've tried looking for good documentation in the past but couldn't find anything good. Though I could just be looking in the wrong places

[onyx scroll]

Then learn like you learnt how to make maps

[plucky plume]

im trying

[onyx scroll]

I fucking hate saying that because I myself can't make maps myself, but it can be done for most people

[plucky plume]

my main thing is i need to learn how to make a multi floor map that goes up and down

[onyx scroll]

unless your brain just isn't wired correctly to fully understand programming concepts

[onyx scroll]

Hmm, a simple YouTube video might have answers in that regard

[plucky plume]

hopefully but all the videos ive seen mainly using default doom engine or crispy

[onyx scroll]

Maybe this?

[plucky plume]

ive got like 10 wads connected to the GZDOOM engine shit is so difficult lol

its mainly textures

this what im working with rn lol

[onyx scroll]

Hmm, you want those gates transparent?

[plucky plume]

yeah

its a new thing im doing

[onyx scroll]

basically you'd create a large area around your main building and then create a wall of linedefs (the fence)

[plucky plume]

figured

[onyx scroll]

you can then change the texture of the linedef to just be that texture

if you need help I could attempt to make an example

[plucky plume]

oh so ill just make the walls on the other side the same and it will be transparent

[onyx scroll]

though I'm not exactly sure if GZ does anything weirdly different

[onyx scroll]

Not exactly

[plucky plume]

hmm

[onyx scroll]

hold on, creating an example

you just want the WAD for it or?

[plucky plume]

yh would be nice

[onyx scroll]

but this is basically what you want (the highlighted lines being the fence)

the extra linedefs in the middle was just a platform I made

you can safely ignore those

[plucky plume]

thanks

[plucky plume]

thanks for teaching me this

[onyx scroll]

Np

[brazen shell]

is there an official app to make doom maps? because i cant trust any app

[onyx scroll]

No. All modding tools are 3rd party.

However, Slade 3 and Ultimate Doom Builder are 100% safe, assuming you get from the right sources

[brazen shell]

idk which app to use tho and like my antivirus all flags them

[brazen shell]

whats the link for slade?

[onyx scroll]

Your AV is throwing false positives more than likely

Vega doesn't allow the Slade link???

[brazen shell]

dang

[onyx scroll]

Surprising

okay, the repo works
https://github.com/sirjuddington/SLADE/releases/tag/3.2.7

though, Slade isn't the best for map making, it's used for WAD/pk3 archive editing

[brazen shell]

really hope this is safe

[onyx scroll]

basically all of the popular modding tools are

like I said, your AV is probably throwing false positives as they're not signed applications

[brazen shell]

oh ok

[onyx scroll]

also, if you're using Norton, stop fucking using it

[brazen shell]

what is the best app for making maps?

nah not using norton

[onyx scroll]

Ultimate Doom Builder, almost like it's in the name lol

[brazen shell]

is this the right one?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah

[brazen shell]

aight

[onyx scroll]

if you don't trust it, you can also look over the source code for it as it is open source similar to SLADE

[brazen shell]

i dont even know c and c++

aight thx

wait you cant make doom 1 + doom 2 wads?

thats aight doom 2 is good too

the og on steam

[onyx scroll]

Not at the moment, no. ID24 isn't all too well documented atm

Well, you can make Vanilla, Boom, MBF, and MBF21 maps and they will work on Doom + Doom 2

though, most people aren't running the official ports

they run 3rd party source ports like DSDA-Doom, Crispy Doom, Woof, and a billion more

[brazen shell]

Dang

[onyx scroll]

so it's always good to test on those ports as well

[brazen shell]

i thought i could make wads and upload it to the game's workshop thingy

[onyx scroll]

you can

[brazen shell]

but only on the doom II?

[onyx scroll]

though like I said, a ton of players won't be playing on the Steam/offical ports

[onyx scroll]

Okay, so you can upload your maps to Doom + Doom 2, but not Doom 2

Doom 2 has a restricted, manually approved mod selection that isn't supported anymore

[brazen shell]

Can i on doom 1?

[onyx scroll]

Doom + Doom 2 has it's own workshop thing you can freely upload to

[brazen shell]

oh ok bc the ultimate doom downloader just simply showed doom 2

so i didnt know if i could make doom 1 maps with this app

[onyx scroll]

you can select Doom 1/Ultimate Doom as well

[brazen shell]

i didnt know

[onyx scroll]

but it by default only shows Doom 2 maps as they're the most popular

[brazen shell]

ok

is it possible to make custom weapons?

[onyx scroll]

you can enable Doom 1 stuff by going into Tools > Game Configurations

[onyx scroll]

Highly depends on the source port

[brazen shell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adSlxtgNaSk&t=2s

[onyx scroll]

you cannot make majorly complex weaponry like that when it comes to Doom + Doom 2

[brazen shell]

kind of like this guy

[brazen shell]

dang

[onyx scroll]

you will need a source port like GZDoom that has scripting capabilities

[brazen shell]

wait so which doom was that

[onyx scroll]

Okay... so I should explain better seeing you're clearly misunderstanding

[brazen shell]

nvm

[onyx scroll]

Doom + Doom 2 (more commonly referred to the KEX port) is the currently supported official port

[brazen shell]

so i cant with mine right?

[onyx scroll]

No, you can't

[brazen shell]

oh ok

[onyx scroll]

you'll need to set up a port like GZDoom for massively complex weaponry

[brazen shell]

how do i do that

[onyx scroll]

you can make more simplistic custom weapons using DeHackED, which every port supports

but nothing to the level of the weaponry that something like Brutal Doom or Russian Overkill has

[onyx scroll]

hundreds of tutorials online

[brazen shell]

oh ok

[onyx scroll]

but yeah, step back and basically tell me what type of weaponry you wanna make

because I can direct you to what port you may want

because you may not even need to use GZDoom

[brazen shell]

the shotototgun

and um a cacodemon that you can hold to see if its possible

[onyx scroll]

yeah, you'll need GZDoom and learn ZScript, then

so yeah, better brush up on your programming skills

[brazen shell]

kk

[onyx scroll]

also, you'll need Slade for a ton of stuff

[brazen shell]

aight

[onyx scroll]

• Custom Textures
• Custom Music
• Adding in ZScript files
  • Editing them as well, if you wish to use something other than VSC or Notepad++

Slade is also used in vanilla/boom/mbf mapmaking for the first 2

though for the sake of your eyes, write the ZScript files in VSC or Notepad++ because Slade 3 basically lacks a dark mode

also, when you're making maps for GZDoom, do not expect them to work outside of GZDoom

because 99.9% of the time it won't

also, another tip

[brazen shell]

?

[onyx scroll]

if you plan to make vanilla/boom/mbf maps, don't use GZDoom as it isn't 1:1 to those engines

[brazen shell]

k

it seems like i missd a step before makign doom maps i dont have required stuff like textures

[onyx scroll]

basically just make UDMF maps when making stuff in GZDoom

[onyx scroll]

you need to add your Doom 2 IWAD as a resource in Ultimate Doom Builder

[brazen shell]

oh ok

[onyx scroll]

if you're unsure where it's located, C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Ultimate Doom\base\doom2

you only need to add DOOM2.WAD as a resource

[brazen shell]

k thx

what about [k3

pk3

[onyx scroll]

just use that for GZDoom stuff tbh

it will basically tell users that it's for GZDoom and not another port

as basically all other ports work with .WADs only

[brazen shell]

idk where pk3 is

[onyx scroll]

also, pk3s give more flexability anyways

[onyx scroll]

Oh, you mean when you're adding in the resource?

[brazen shell]

yes

[onyx scroll]

Oh, ignore that

basically only there when you're adding in another mod as a resource for that map

you just need to add in DOOM2.WAD

[brazen shell]

aight so i just made a new "map" by putting the DOOM2.WAD as a UDMF

that good?

[onyx scroll]

yes

[brazen shell]

so now im making a map for only zdoom right?

[onyx scroll]

yes

[brazen shell]

aight got it so no doom 2 thanks

[onyx scroll]

like DSDA-Doom has some limited UDMF support, but the weapon mod you're gonna make isn't supported

so yeah, basically only GZDoom

[brazen shell]

can i put custom images

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, with Slade

although I've never worked with custom textures, and I'm unsure if GZDoom does any weird shit

and I've also never worked with pk3s so...

[brazen shell]

oh ok thx

[quiet igloo]

Hi everyone! We released a very unusual MBF21 episode, where project members had to make a map in the style of another random project mapper. You can check it now!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/150809-who-is-who-community-project-mbf21-8-maps/
https://youtu.be/7L7ErogjdxI

[whole blade]

Test your map in all ports you want it to be compatible with

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, you're right on that one.

Honestly, I should just stop trying to help people

Seeing for the last couple times my information has been dead skewed

[whole blade]

Remnant is a good example of this. It's a vanilla compatible map but it uses miko portals, which break in gzdoom (or rather, the overflow that allows for miko portals is fixed)

A lot of this stuff is only obvious if you're a mapper/have released a few projects

I've run 2 projects where people could use whatever format/compatibilty they wanted as long as it was tested in the correct port

So we had vanilla, boom, zdoom and gzdoom maps submitted

(This was Mapwich 1)

[onyx scroll]

@brazen shell ignore everything I said, God knows what information I've given you is wrong or very bad practice. Would advise for you to double check the info I've given you.

[whole blade]

Sorry, not trying to beat up on you or anything 😅

[onyx scroll]

No, it's fine

but it's clear I need to quit for the next couple months and either fresh up on information or just pick and choose when to help

[whole blade]

i try to stick to things i have experience in. decorate/zscript is something i have very little knowledge about so i'm not going ot proffer too much help on those subjects

making maps and running projects (which relates to chosen ports and compatibility) i have done a lot of so that kind of stuff is in my wheelhouse

[onyx scroll]

I just have a natural urge to help, hence me going into topics I probably shouldn't be helping in

[whole blade]

people are appreciative of your help, so hopefully you don't feel like throwing in the towel completely

[onyx scroll]

alright

[whole blade]

i'm happy to be pinged as well if anyone has questions they think i'll be able to provide insight on

[brave hemlock]

doom wads dont exist theyre a figment of your imagination

[bitter solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[chrome oxide]

Just opened the udoom wad for the hell of it and apparently one of the wall textures is named AAASTINKY and I'm laughing my ass off rn

[royal wave]

AASTINKY is a placeholder due to how the engine works. I'm not sure what the specifics are, I just know it can't access whatever the first listed texture is, so a dummy texture has to be in that first slot

[old seal]

very cool lighting

[old seal]

my 2 favourite maps would be 01+03

[toxic latch]

Hey doomers! Have any doom mods to recommend? I’m mainly looking for total conversation mods

[onyx scroll]

Eraser v3.0

Avoid it if you have major anxiety disorders, however

the WAD will work under anything Boom-compat

Single, long ass map

[toxic latch]

Huh

[onyx scroll]

Also, not a TC but Overboard's really good

[toxic latch]

Also idk if it counts as a TC if it’s only one level right?

[onyx scroll]

It fully counts

Everything is replaced in Eraser

Also, there is a second map, but it's an ending map

[toxic latch]

Why should I avoid if I have an anxiety disorder

[onyx scroll]

and has no real gameplay

[onyx scroll]

It's mainly a horror WAD

[toxic latch]

Ohhhh

[onyx scroll]

mainly made to make you feel incredibly uneasy

also, it's not really a map you can play in one session

it's incredibly large

well, you can play in one session, but it'll take you at least an hour or more

[toxic latch]

Alright thx

[onyx scroll]

if you need the link I can send it over btw

Also, don't play it in GZDoom. The map basically hinges on the original software renderer and is apparently completely untested in GZDoom

Actually, it may be fine in GZDoom. But do use the software renderer.

[toxic latch]

What would I use instead

[onyx scroll]

Like source port? I do recommend Woof or Nugget Doom in this case.

If you absolutely want a hardware renderer, use DSDA-Doom or Nyan Doom

[toxic latch]

Would I still be fine with gzdoom with software renderer

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, probably

like I'm not 100% sure, but I'd assume so after rereading the Doomworld post

although the most recent version was mainly tested in Nugget Doom

[toxic latch]

How would I know it doesn’t work

[onyx scroll]

If something doesn't appear to function right, I guess?

[toxic latch]

Aight

I’ll check it out soon

Thank you

[onyx scroll]

but yeah, also Overboard if you haven't played it yet

like I said, not a TC, but it's still really fun and good looking

if you liked Going Down, you'd like Overboard

[toxic latch]

Never tried going down

[onyx scroll]

I've personally been playing Going Down Turbo and I've been liking that over the original