classic-doom-maps-mods

[cloud tangle]

i wanted that room to kick your ass

[hexed jungle]

I thought it was pretty smart to make the SSG secret monsters teleport so you can't just get it scott free

[cloud tangle]

ohh yeah all of my teleporters will do that i think its fun

more chaotic

shit my nose is bleeding

[hexed jungle]

Tissue time

[cloud tangle]

yup

also in lower difficulties, the room before the bridge has the chaingunner behind the other enemies so they infight

sometimes i get pop ups on discord but theyre in dutch and i cant read dutch so i just press the no button (nee/nu)

[hexed jungle]

That's weird

[cloud tangle]

yeah

i know

[hexed jungle]

On the topic of mapping, Romero is streaming Sigil 2 dev rn. He's how I learned a lot of the basics

[cloud tangle]

oh shiiii

[hexed jungle]

He has vods on his YT too which are a great source of learning mapping tools and techniques

[cloud tangle]

but he uses udb

oh neat udb shows the sprite angle too, not just an arrow

[hexed jungle]

Wait, do you not use UDB?

[cloud tangle]

no i use the arguably worse slade

[hexed jungle]

That's kinda impressive that you made the maps you did in slade considering what I've seen of the editor

But then again maybe I just don't know enough about slade

Either way, are you still watching his stream? He had the same issue with monsters not moving that you did lol

[cloud tangle]

oh lol, i had to eat dinner

[hexed jungle]

Filbert come get your dinner

[cloud tangle]

lmao
imma chill and work on map03 after i shower

[cloud tangle]

map03 time

[hexed jungle]

[cloud tangle]

👀 it looks weird now but youll see

and its supposed to not show a lot information

[hexed jungle]

Epic

Dude battlements are a bitch to make

[cloud tangle]

holy shit

[hexed jungle]

I hate em but they gotta be done

Been putting off mappin because of this lol

[cloud tangle]

remind me to never make castles like that

but id be such a cool setpiece ugh

also can you not just use the shape tool and make each one line that? and then select those sectors and bring them down

i feel like itd be pretty quick

[hexed jungle]

I just made separate sectors behind them so I could bring the wall behind all the battlements down in one click. Lets me have sky texture behind them and allows for depth of the battlements.

Also the actual battlements themselves didn't take that long to place, I just copy and pasted the sectors for them before I made the sector lines behind them. I just don't like doing them to begin with lol

I also had to do the battlements over the windows differently since, ya know, windows and stuff

[cloud tangle]

yeah

[cloud tangle]

i dont know what to do for the yellow key

@oscult gimme an idea
bruh i dont know how to do @s its been soo long

@hexed jungle

[hexed jungle]

Lemme think

[cloud tangle]

k thanks

[hexed jungle]

@cloud tangle Okay, so maybe you can have a room where when you pick up the key the floor breaks off into platforms and monster shelves open up. Maybe if the player falls into the pit trying to get back to an area where the floor didn't fall down, they have to find a teleporter. Maybe as punishment you can make a linedef trip that opens up a teleporter in a monster closet to teleport more monsters in.

[cloud tangle]

thats fun

i kinda just borrowed the "tall room with other rooms at different heights adjacent to the big main room" idea

[hexed jungle]

Halfway there

[cloud tangle]

taking screenshots to prove my point rq

check #screenshots

[hexed jungle]

Yea that wouldn't be a bad idea

[leaden juniper]

how did smooth doom manage to add in all those extra frames?

[teal wyvern]

wow that's very pretty

[brave hemlock]

castel

[cloud tangle]

sometimes i need to remind myself im not wasting time by making doom maps

because im having fun

[real sigil]

Me who’s spent six months on a map: me too bro, me too

[cloud tangle]

6 MONTHS??

[brave hemlock]

its this time of the year when i have an urge to make a doom wad

this time with custom music because why not

thoughts on this bad boy?

[cloud tangle]

listening time

[cloud tangle]

shit goes very hard

[brave hemlock]

thanks brother

[cloud tangle]

np

[cloud tangle]

hehe

[brave hemlock]

0/10 not enough fireblu

[cloud tangle]

oh

youre in luck

play map31 of this, its not the latest version but try it

[brave hemlock]

[cloud tangle]

actually fuck it imma update my wad for yall

[brave hemlock]

hmm i need a cool wad name/theme

i made a track but no map or wad to accompany it LOL

[cloud tangle]

shploingus

[cloud tangle]

i could make the maps

WAIT WHAT IF WE ALL COLLABORATED ON A WAD TOGETHER

[brave hemlock]

would be cool but im too unreliable for collabs

[cloud tangle]

so am i

lmao

[hexed jungle]

Thanks! It has gotten even better now. I'll have an updated version of the WAD with this new section playable soon probably.

[cloud tangle]

the yellow key room is so hectic i love it

[real sigil]

I might finish all the modeling december. Then comes the custom sprites and scripting.

[cloud tangle]

oh THAT kinda map

[real sigil]

yyeah

Totally worth my lifespan maybe

[cloud tangle]

lmao

[bitter flame]

Nice

[cloud tangle]

is 129 enemies on UV too much for map03?

lets see how many vanilla doom has on uv

...78

uhm

[brave hemlock]

it's alriiiight

[cloud tangle]

also this map does employ fireblu1

you know youre close to the end of a map when youre double checking line specials

im worried this level is so brown people will mistake it for a quake level

[cloud tangle]

i might make this map04 instead of map03
i have now done this

[hexed jungle]

Vry nice

Also 129 shouldn't be too bad

I downloaded ur new wad, I'll try it out soon

[cloud tangle]

alrighty, map04 is still not done, just needs a bit more polish

@hexed jungle this one is playable
map01/02 map04 and map31 all have been changed
map04 and map31 have had significant changes

forgot to add the attachment

[hexed jungle]

@cloud tangle filbert

Help pls

[cloud tangle]

yep?

sorry i was enjoying some ice cream
(there appears to be a pattern with me and culinary-related absences)

and the severity of your issue determines how long i will stay up tonight

[hexed jungle]

I still can't figure out how to get into those hallways on map 4 lol

Also there are imps stuck in the middle sludgeway on map 2

And imps stuck in various places in map 4

[cloud tangle]

did things break in map04?

are you running it in gzdoom?

@hexed jungle it runs in gzdoom

[cloud tangle]

i know and it infuriates me

and i dont know what the issue is

[cloud tangle]

also also i know about one imp, where are the others?

anyway, ill be heading to bed now, if you have any issues. dm me so i can see them quicker
toodles!

[leaden juniper]

how can i extract the maps from a mod?

i want to use another mod with Wolf3D TC, but it's incompatible and i solely want it for the maps only.

[lusty dove]

You can open the pk3 with slade and take the wad files out with the maps, but you are going to have so many issues because those maps will be expecting all of the custom content, enemies, and textures that the mod adds

[leaden juniper]

oh well i got one that has the custom stuff with me

except the textures i wonder how i can get those

same way?

[lusty dove]

Take the textures out of the pk3 and put them in a new pk3

[leaden juniper]

simple as that?

whoa. will try. big thanks.

the project has a wolfenstein to doom map converter but you probably have to fix some stuff manually

so idk if it's really reliable

[lusty dove]

Wait what do you mean

[leaden juniper]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfenstein-3d-jaguarpc/downloads/wolf-en-doom-lite-classic-35

it's like uhh
beautiful doom of wolf3d

[lusty dove]

Are you expecting the custom enemies from this to perfectly replace the custom enemies in the maps of the other mod?

Because if so, it's not gonna work like that

[leaden juniper]

it usually did with many wolfendoom wads

[lusty dove]

Oh huh

Maybe I'm mistaken then

Well might as well try it, if it works great, if not, unfortunate

[haughty flower]

awesome pillow

[cloud tangle]

thanks, its memory foam

[cloud tangle]

im burned out with mapping

😭😭😭

[brave hemlock]

already?

it's important to take a break so i guess go and do something else, you'll find some inspiration along the way

[cloud tangle]

i worked on map04 for like 7 hours yesterday

and i dont have much to show for it

gimme like 2 days ig

[brave hemlock]

the superior spotify

[hexed jungle]

Dun worry bro you got this. I ignore my map for like 2 weeks then crank out like 10 hours of work in a day when I'm feeling it.

[cloud tangle]

slade my beloved

[brave hemlock]

okay i thought i didnt save the track i made yesterday but i did

ive noticed an oversight where both the bass and the solo is played on one device resulting in sometimes only one sound playing at once

i will move the solo to a separate device with the same instrument

[bitter flame]

How does everyone do the skyline to look good on outside levels? Mine looks like shit lol

I was trying to add a chainlink fence but that still leaves a horzion

[cloud tangle]

wdym by horizob

also send ss

[hexed jungle]

You mean like how to get the skybox behind terrain?

[bitter flame]

Like I am trying to make a fully outside city level but after awhile it runs out of grass and goes to the void because I don't want to make the level too large. Right now I have some random greenish brick walls there but they look terrible lol.

[hexed jungle]

Okay, so you're wanting something like how I made the terrain in the castle section of my map to replace the walls then I guess?

[bitter flame]

No I mean like what to put in place of the green brick walls in the background

Like do I just make the rest of the map grass?

Wouldn't that lag alot?

[hexed jungle]

I wouldn't think it would, I've played plenty of maps that go out into the distance and just end abruptly

I guess if you really wanted it to look fancy you could try making some smaller buildings and then copy and paste them around the edge to make it look like there are suburbs or something in the distance

[bitter flame]

Hmm. Thanks

[cloud tangle]

map01 of no rest for the living does that really well

[hexed jungle]

I think I remember that. Been awhile since I played NRFTL

[cloud tangle]

i havent beaten it i need to

the civvie video sings praise of it

[hexed jungle]

Take notes on how they do the final fight. I know it isn't anything crazy, but I've seen a lot of wads where people just throw a spider mastermind or a cyber as the final boss and barely do anything with the map to make them more threatening than they would be as just a random enemy.

[cloud tangle]

thanks

[hexed jungle]

That's not a dig at your dead simple remix btw, I'm just talking about end of the wad levels

[cloud tangle]

it IS only map07, though

[hexed jungle]

Yea but that's the thing, it's only map 7. I wouldn't expect a big wad final fight for a middle of the wad map, so the cyber at the end was fine

[cloud tangle]

also an archie with mancubi

[hexed jungle]

Also I didn't have the bfg, so that's a plus in my book

[cloud tangle]

i intended that

[hexed jungle]

The archie alone was a good move I think too, it forces the player to leave cover

Mancubi help with it, though I killed most of them before the cyber showed up when I played

[bitter flame]

I am trying to add some friendies to try and help the player on the city map. For some reason they will visualy shoot the player but not deal damage despite having the friendly tag. Does anyone know how to fix this?

The melee only friendlies seem fine

[teal wyvern]

The best thing you could do is using a skybox and have the outside portion of the map surrounded by some buildings

[cloud tangle]

GUYS WE ARE SO BACK IM GETTING IDEAS ONCE AGAIN

[bitter flame]

Same lol. I just added a ton of stuff. Level 5 might be the last level but it will be huge lol

[cloud tangle]

im just gonna make the end fight of map04 less shit lmao

[bitter flame]

Nice lol

[cloud tangle]

because lets be honest, the last room kinda sucked, i was getting burnt out

im rewatching civvies unreal video and im getting ideas

[bitter flame]

Nice.

These files were from the "Divine Shadow" that I am trying to import from realm667 to be the final boss of my mod. I have all the files but these placed in the correct spots but he glitches out during some attacks. Does anyone know where these go?

[hexed jungle]

👍Nice

[leaden juniper]

Am pumped

(sigil 2 is near)

[brave hemlock]

remade the solo and also made some improvements to one of the basslines

heres the midi if someone has their favorite soundfont

[brave hemlock]

okay this is the definitive edition

grew 4 KB in size (i feed it well)

[bitter flame]

"Always feed your pet Pk3s with delicious map wads" (I know its not a pk3 lol).

[brave hemlock]

wasn't the definitive edition after all (i didnt like the octave-higher solo in the end)

fed it another half a kilobyte

thankfully it's just 11.5kb in MUS format

not that it matters nowadays but its just cool to save space

[brave hemlock]

does whacked4 just not work on windows 11

always gives me python deprecation errors

spun up a w10 virtual machine and it works so i guess ill use it like that

good thing i made a separate partition for my doom wad shenanigans so i can just make a shared folder

[brave hemlock]

Hm, should I make a proper map first or should I make weapon sprites first

[hexed jungle]

What do you want to do more?

[brave hemlock]

can't decide

[brave hemlock]

decided to make this pistol thing

it still looks kinda weird for some reason

was basing it on this suppressed FN FNX

[hexed jungle]

What's the part past the front sight?

Oh okay

I think the suppresor could maybe be bigger

It was hard to tell what it was until you sent that pic

The rest of it looks fine to me

[brave hemlock]

oh yeah i widened the suppressor

it looks better definitely

[hexed jungle]

I'd love to see a walther p99 in doom, I always thought that gun looked cool

[brave hemlock]

i'm kinda going for a secret agent turned badass theme for this wad so a suppressed pistol with a tan desert finish is pretty much perfect

[hexed jungle]

Yea that will be cool to see the other sprites you make

Do you know what other guns you're gonna make already?

[brave hemlock]

I've got a few candidates

i think i want to add an automatic shotgun

less accurate but fast firing

honestly looks amazing

also made a sound for it (i have to make the rest of the frames too lol ignore that for now)

[cloud tangle]

holy shit jack of all trades

[brave hemlock]

master of none

[bold breach]

Has anyone made an AKS-74U in doom?

[hexed jungle]

I'm looking forward to that, do you have a specific gun in mind?

[brave hemlock]

SRM Arms M1216

i don't think it's automatic IRL but it's a good looking gun so.....

well, all i'm gonna say, plasma rifle is a toy gun so i think i am allowed to have a non-automatic shotgun be automatic

[hexed jungle]

Cod had an automatic version of that I think

[brave hemlock]

well the one i know is Widowmaker from tf2 and it's kiiiinda automatic

ammo is metal, uses 30 metal per shot, and on shot it gives back the same amount of metal as the damage

so if you hit someone for 30 or more hp it's basically infinite ammo full auto

[brave hemlock]

level design is my passion

[hexed jungle]

The design is very bold

[brave hemlock]

great idea i just got

[cloud tangle]

so, death?

[brave hemlock]

no totally not 😃😃😃😃

just dont suck and you will beat him

[cloud tangle]

i mean if you have the super shotgun you have a 50/50 chance to send him into his pain state

or bfg ig

[brave hemlock]

best i can do is pistol and 50 ammo

[cloud tangle]

damn

[hexed jungle]

Will you throw in an extra 50 ammo if I mail you some warheads candies?

(Potentially missing the sour apple ones)

[cloud tangle]

all the twizzlers are mine and i refuse to acknowledge any other opinions

[hexed jungle]

Give me your twizzlers

[cloud tangle]

no fuck you theyre mine

[hexed jungle]

Are they cherry or strawberry ones?

Bc I only care about the cherry ones you pull apart

Damn bro, I want some twizzlers now

[cloud tangle]

i eat all twizzlers

i will walk into my local (corporation) grocery store and walk out with like 4 things of twizzlers

[hexed jungle]

v0.50 is ready for testing

Still vanilla gameplay, so no jumping. Mouselook should still be fine. GZDoom only.

[cloud tangle]

the perfect vibe, alone on halloween playing doom

[brave hemlock]

you just gotta iddqd and you'll be fine

[tribal copper]

this a cyber demon?

[runic breach]

nah that's a technodevil

[tribal copper]

oookay

[brave hemlock]

archvile

i think cyberdemon would be marginally easier but archvile just sets you on fire twice and you're Fucking Dead™

[quiet igloo]

I come to you with a portion of speedmapping.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141189-russian-random-speedmap-pack-1-18-totally-different-maps/?tab=comments#comment-2725910

[brave hemlock]

that's a nice megawad

[serene lava]

hey i got a question

so doom eternal comes with doom 1 and 2 wad

whats the best program to use those wads to play doom and can i mod them to play my house or total chaos?

[brave hemlock]

GZDoom is the most painless

also thats weird that it does

[bold breach]

Is it part of the computer that lets you play doom 1 and 2?

[serene lava]

thanks

[brave hemlock]

oh is that a thing? then maybe

i know that doom 3 also has D1 and D2 wads

for some reason

dang i need to play doom 3 some time

[bold breach]

Yeah in doom guy’s room there’s a computer that you can play doom 1 in if you get all the cheat codes

And doom 2 if you put in a password

[brave hemlock]

the id guy who coded the easter egg in after i tell him that source ports exist:

oh crap imagine speedrunning all cheat codes and then speedrunning doom 1 in one run

[serene lava]

hey so does anyone know where do i find the mod that makes doom 3rd person and adds the crucifix blade and makes it play like an action game

[cloud tangle]

how to do third person
press ` and then type in either 'chase' or 'chasecam'

i have chasecam bound to f11

guys i cant map im having too much fun with d64

[brave hemlock]

understandable, have a great time

[cloud tangle]

i am dont worry

[tiny jewel]

ANYONE HAVE THE MOONMAN MOD

[cloud tangle]

no, its probably against the rules

[tiny jewel]

sorry for caps

brutal doom?

[cloud tangle]

• Do not discuss or promote mods that feature real world religious or political content.
• Do not discuss or promote mods that include hate speech, malicious content, or content that slanders/harasses users.

[hollow meadow]

Bro 💀

[bold breach]

I don’t think that’s allowed…

[cloud tangle]

how much yall bet hes like 12

[hollow meadow]

They definitely are

[serene lava]

yo check out just found the best mod

its called the eternal slayer and it literally turns doom a 1st person shooter into a 3rd person action game like devil may cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZANNxsNQDSY
best mod fr fr

just wish somehow it used the og doom sprites for the slayer because the 3d model contrasts a lot with the sprite enemies

[tiny jewel]

16

also i aint edgy i just wanna see the mod

dumb mf

[whole blade]

Play nicely in the sandpit or you'll be sent home

[bold breach]

lmao

anyway heres an archvile segment ive been working on

[cloud tangle]

(nobody tell him im the same age as him just *slightly* more mature)

and no i cant play in the sandpit i will eat the sand

[lusty dove]

Be careful though because the version of the wads that comes with doom eternal is a bit different from the normal ones so it may cause issues with some mods and maps

[bold breach]

(nobody tell him im younger than him)

[serene lava]

i see thanks for the heads up

also doom fighters is so good

[brave hemlock]

that's the best response to mild toxicity ever im stealing that

[brave hemlock]

holy mother of sin

[cloud tangle]

imagine

i share a birthday with TF2 and doom 2

sometimes i forget that time passes in the real world and not just day by day

[runic breach]

thas so cool

[cloud tangle]

im so consumed with the cycle to know anything more

[cloud tangle]

yeah i share a birthday with my favorite shooter its fucking awesome

[runic breach]

my birthday's on halloween

[cloud tangle]

October 10th

[runic breach]

candy and cake ‼️

[cloud tangle]

october birthdays >>>>>

[brave hemlock]

i was born a day before the launch of xbox 360

it's kind of crazy that x360 is almost 18 then

[cloud tangle]

æöügh im old tf2 is 16 years, 23 days 8 hours and 37 minutes

[solar brook]

LMAO

[brave hemlock]

still better than ow2

[solar brook]

I was born before the very first DOOM game even existed and you tell me ur "old"?

[cloud tangle]

yeah

[whole blade]

I'm 38 and I'll still kick all of y'alls asses in death match

[cloud tangle]

well see

(i have played consistently for a year, im fucked)

[cloud tangle]

but if anybody wants to do a round or two of deathmatch i can make a map

[whole blade]

We're actually releasing a dm map pack this weekend c:

31 maps

[brave hemlock]

rigged you had more time to practice

also i suck at movement

[warm hornet]

So i play Gzdoom Port through ZDL and wanted to play the Batman wad but it has a deh file for textures; since u cant just drag the deh in the same place where the wads/pk go i wanted to ask: whats the command line to load deh files into gzdoom?

[whole blade]

If you're using zdl you can load multiple custom files

You should be able to load it in the same load list as everything else

[warm hornet]

this doesnt work for some reason- like i cant drag it into the window neither do deh files show up when i want to add it to external files; but after some search i finally found the command line for it in the zdoom wiki- it works now

[whole blade]

hmmm i'm sure i've managed to load deh patches in ZDL. i'll have to double check when i get home

[warm hornet]

i just found out that i had some options wrong in my file manager and thats the reason why deh files wouldnt show up in my file folder

[cloud tangle]

guys i have added like one room to map04 im too distracted by doom 64 its SO FUN

[cloud tangle]

i must emulate the difficulty of even simpler from doom 64 its so good

[haughty flower]

that explains the graying hair

[solar brook]

hah, funny you think i have hair on my head

[haughty flower]

grandpa gaming?

[brave hemlock]

male_pattern_baldness.wad

[near cave]

This map is called lulab

[leaden juniper]

does chex quest hd have all 3 episodes?

[cloud tangle]

dude deathmatch seems like so much fun

[wind patio]

hwat
I thought you were in your twenties

[cloud tangle]

also is there a server for classic doom deathmatch

[royal wave]

Help me out here folks: https://x.com/kbeevans/status/1720577768038309939?s=20

[cloud tangle]

FR WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS

[royal wave]

Oh it does get discussed. There's just a pair of obstacles that insists it's not a universally hated feature

[solar brook]

BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Looks like a buggy LOD lmao

[cloud tangle]

fast travelling in fo4

[hexed jungle]

I feel like that face would make a great "wtf" emoji

[cloud tangle]

"ech"

• Zombieman, in E1M1, 1993

[cloud tangle]

also i wanna test this at some point

im pretty damn confident in my skill, but im nowhere perfect

[whole blade]

it's being released tomorrow and we're running a big session for it

[cloud tangle]

oh fuck yes

[whole blade]

open to all comers c:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtActLyurMY

[cloud tangle]

oh its zandronum dammit

[brave hemlock]

i dont use x but it's bad

first thing i do is disable it LOL

im glad unity ports have no filtering by default

[round birch]

Is there an overview map for Doom 2?

Maybe some mod expands Doom 2 with such picture?

[brave hemlock]

hmmm, doom 1 was divided into clear chapters but doom 2 is just map1-map30

so i dont really know if an overview like that would be feasible

[leaden juniper]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129057-doom-2-intermission-maps-complete/

[gray glen]

I made a map last night, I didn't know what to do with it so Im posting it here

Run both files for better gameplay

[haughty flower]

yo that's really cool, I never really get into doom deathmatch but I will set this up

[whole blade]

we had about 20 people in the server today

it was chaos

but very fun chaos

[cloud tangle]

woah buddy not cool

yall ever play doom fall of mars

[outer scroll]

I need a map idea to work with, throw somethin' at me

[cloud tangle]

uh

inner circle, middle circle, outer circle, each one needs keys on outer towers

also its nighttime and dark

@outer scroll

[outer scroll]

idk if I'm skilled enough to do nighttime theming and take into account things being dark but I can try

[cloud tangle]

cool

doom 64 textures would prob help the mood

im thinkin its also in water

[outer scroll]

ok I've only made like one good map (and one map that wasn't me trying to learn how to even make a map)

shit being in water is a bit much for me lmfao

[cloud tangle]

oh wanna make the same map prompt and see who makes a cooler one?

[outer scroll]

fuckin sure why not lol

[cloud tangle]

hell yeah dude!

[outer scroll]

I'll wanna bit tho, I wanna think this shit out a bit

[cloud tangle]

get backt'ya in a few days tho

im loading up slade rn ive already got ideas brewin

[haughty flower]

I still wanna make like, a shoot house map
To use for practicing weapons and enemy pack combos

Might actually open up the CoD map to copy the layout

[bitter flame]

Where does one aquire this?

[cloud tangle]

just google doom fall of mars its fun

also when you play the number that looks the most like a 6 is actually a 5

the 6 and 9 look very... abstract

[bitter flame]

Yo @hexed jungle what ever happened to your mod? Also when the last level is done can you test level 5 of mine? (Just level 5 as I was not able to figure out how to make the change to level 4)?

[hexed jungle]

@bitter flame You mean this? It's the latest version with the new section

Also yea I can test it sometime soon when you're done with yours

[bitter flame]

Nice. Will play it when I can

[bitter flame]

Nice. That is almost ready

A few things need some improvement. Should be done tommorow or tonight if I have time

[grave flare]

hey guys is it possible to make a series of falling sector that forms some stairs?

in vanilla / limit removing

[hexed jungle]

You mean like ceilings?

[grave flare]

uh like a series of high platforms that lowers with a trigger, forming stairs

[hexed jungle]

Idk if any of the stair action specials build in reverse, but you could in theory use a series of walkable linedefs that lower each platform by a specified amount per a tripped linedef

Either one of the platform specials or a floor special would work, I think the generic should do it but I believe you should have access to a by value action special in like the boom configuration

If you do the linedef thing then I would advise not connecting the linedefs to any of the sectors so you can fine tune the placement of them as needed

[grave flare]

ok had a work around working

now I have a lowering secret door with stairs rising seperately

also a sofa made with original doom 2 textures

top-down view:

prefab fiel created using doom builder x

[haughty flower]

finally actually downloaded UDB to try it out, and wow it's super easy to use. made a few edits to a map I like and added a couple monsters and weapons, that could be my testing map for now. would it be okay to post the modified version here for you guys?

[hexed jungle]

I don't see why not

As long as you aren't claiming others maps as yours I imagine it's okay

[near cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27HoY8FepE

[brave hemlock]

comfy

[haughty flower]

well yeah that's the point. So, here is my very very slightly modificated version of a map from 2011, Kurogane. I added a few monsters, a shotgun to start, a plasma rifle and some more rocket ammo to allow the player to use it a bit more, on the added monsters. Now the map has at least one of every non-boss monster type to see what they're like under monster mods. Map originally by Memfis.

[west tapir]

Ya gotta do it.

[hexed jungle]

I gotta do it? Uh oh

[bold breach]

Has anyone thought of making a map based off Dante’s Inferno?

Seems like an interesting concept that would fit in a doom megawad

[leaden juniper]

i think that's like

the entire inferno chapter of doom 1

[bold breach]

I mean I don’t really remember any nine circles in E3…

[haughty flower]

Some maps in the Master Levels are on that theme
Honestly it's the most obvious theme for hellish Doom maps, I bet if you search on doomworld you're gonna find some

[whole blade]

there's at least one that i've seen (quite old), and i've had an idead for a dante's inferno inspired map for about 15 years lol (it'll finally come ot life in age of hell)

[cloud tangle]

alr guys i beat doom 64 it was wonderful

i call it "objectively the best architecture in any of the official classic dooms campaigns, although kinda easy, even in the hardest difficulty"

oh and yes, i will be taking aspects of its mapping style

[hexed jungle]

Vry nice

I still need to beat Doom 64

[brave hemlock]

my ass got stuck on the 3rd level

but i agree the maps are beautiful

almost quake-y to an extent

[cloud tangle]

ohh theyre sooo pretty i love them

[bold breach]

I couldn’t finish doom 64

Too boring for me

also just started playing Kama Sutra

so fucking fun

[cloud tangle]

it gets good

dark citadel can fuck off tho

[white blaze]

Y’all wtf do I do?

[brave hemlock]

looks like zscript errors

[white blaze]

What do I do then?

I reinstalled the mod and stuff too

[brave hemlock]

man i dunno

[haughty flower]

what wad is that?

[white blaze]

Alaln

[haughty flower]

You may have to update GZDoom

Or, on the contrary, look for compatible older versions.

[white blaze]

What one should I try?

[haughty flower]

I really don't know, I'll try to download the Mod and see what versions it is compatible with.

Could you pass me the wad please?

[white blaze]

Just checked the read me file and it says it’s been tested on lzdoom

[white blaze]

Yea one sec

[haughty flower]

Ok i'll wait

[white blaze]

Can’t send the file it’s to big

Just search up A.L.A..L.N on google

[haughty flower]

Ok

[white blaze]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/alaln-v8 @haughty flower here

[haughty flower]

Which version of the wad are you using?

[white blaze]

The final version

[haughty flower]

Okay, I'll download it and try it in some versions of gzdoom

(By the way, I love that the wad name is literally a phrase in Spanish)

[white blaze]

Wait a minute

[haughty flower]

What's happening?

[white blaze]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131698-lost-in-darkness-208/ this is the one I downloaded actually… I though I downloaded the alaln one bruh😭

I’m so fuckin dumb dude🗿

[haughty flower]

Don't worry, I also confused the mod when I was searching for it on Google

[haughty flower]

So, is this the mod that doesn't work for you?

[white blaze]

Yea

[haughty flower]

Well, it will take me a while to download it since my internet is not the best

[noble sable]

my monkey brain cant handle this

[haughty flower]

@white blaze And what version of GZ Doom are you using?

[white blaze]

The newest version

[haughty flower]

The Version 4.11.3?

[white blaze]

Yea

[haughty flower]

One hour left 😭

[white blaze]

@stone gale fuck you

Smh

[brave hemlock]

what did vega do

[white blaze]

Warn me for to many emojis smh

[brave hemlock]

[haughty flower]

@white blaze For now I guess the only solution is to use the latest version of LZDoom

Download stopped

[white blaze]

I’ll try it quickly

[haughty flower]

Okay

[white blaze]

Can’t find it anywhere I only see gzdoom and zdoom

[haughty flower]

A little further down you will find the versions of LZ Doom

[dark crown]

[white blaze]

Still sone errors when loading in @haughty flower

[haughty flower]

Damn, Unfortunately I can't help you, I already gave you all the solutions I could have given you, the only thing I can recommend is that you search Google for old versions of GZ Doom

[white blaze]

I’ll try alanl since it’s the closest thing to lost in darkness

Guh

How tf do I load this bruh

Yo @haughty flower what the fuck does all this goofy stuff mean🗿

[haughty flower]

They are the files of the wad, right?

Well, compress it to a pk3 file, it's that easy

[white blaze]

How do I do that?

[solar brook]

U know... u can do screenshots on windows.. xD

[haughty flower]

Or wait, GZ Doom also accepts .zip files as Mods, just compress it to a .zip file, and open it with GZ or LZ Doom

[white blaze]

To lazy to log into discord lmao

[haughty flower]

Indeed

[white blaze]

Loads Into doom 2 and it has all the guns and stuff but not the map

[haughty flower]

I think maybe it's just a weapons mod.

That's at least what I saw in the screenshots.

[blazing solar]

has anyone ever used the gzdoom vr mod? I'm wondering how well it actually works

though unironically I'm not even sure if I could properly play everything gzdoom in vr because of the performance

[cloud tangle]

i dont think a sprite-based game would work well in vr, but thats interesting

[leaden juniper]

it has voxel doom

[cloud tangle]

ah i see

[leaden juniper]

also it's weirdly great

[cloud tangle]

really?

shit then i might need a vr headset to play exclusively that

[leaden juniper]

there's also questzdoom, which has better support

[near cave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb4mYlUknns&t=1s

[dark crown]

[celest sandal]

Ya know that vr doom thing?
Does it work with the MM8BDM mod?

[near cave]

https://youtu.be/vIvMIV2ebVc

[atomic drum]

On Dooms 30th year anniversary my father is releasing a WAD both him and I have been working on for the past few years. The WAD is called Rebirth of Damnation and will be released on ModDB. Although not necessarily the greatest from a gameplay standpoint (not entirely my fault as I didn't do the overall mapping), it does have a rather heavy focus on detailed environments and unique architecture, using only the default Doom 2 texture set (at least for the maps that is). There are a few minor bugs in the four maps included, but that's going to happen when each map takes around 20-25 minutes to beat... Yeah, they are big maps. There is music composed by my father (as he's an audio engineer), and each map uses some neat tricks utilizing sky or untextured walls/flats (although the visuals only really work in GZDoom hardware accelerated rendering). The maps were made in Doom 2 Doom format so theoretically you could play them in say DOS Box, although I am unsure if you could even run, let alone beat them without no-clipping. It's a bit of a flawed masterpiece, but I would like to watch my father's reaction if this managed to get downloaded/played by more than just his friends he shares it with. I'll post an update whenever it's released.

I hope this doesn't go against any of the rules, fairly certain it said that one can advertise mods in the appropriate channels. I'm pretty sure this is all the information I would like to post about it.

Edit: No jumping in classic Doom/ Doom 2.

[runic breach]

can't wait to see it

[brave hemlock]

HYPE

[cloud tangle]

i will play the FUCK outta this dont worry hun

[whole blade]

that's cool c:

[brave hemlock]

would be cool to do a community fix if some maps really are unbeatable

[whole blade]

community fix for?

[brave hemlock]

the 30th anniversary mod

IF

they're really unbeatable

[whole blade]

it's highly recommended to not release broken maps

[brave hemlock]

...

[whole blade]

controversial opinion i know

[atomic drum]

Every map is beatable in GZDoom with default compatibility settings, in fact I've been recording my playthrough of the Wad with 100% kills & secrets, however I'm currently unsure if the player could beat it with restricted Doom compatibility settings as some sections of maps might be inaccessible due to "infinitely tall actors".

[lusty dove]

Then you should advertise it as gzdoom format

[atomic drum]

I did XD

[lusty dove]

Ah cool

[whole blade]

just make it clear what port(s) you've tested it in

gg ez

[atomic drum]

It's very specifically designed for GZDoom, otherwise the graphics would look awful.

[leaden juniper]

man it's really cool seeing people make absolutely amazing maps in doom engine but i never ould find a proper starting point or tutorial and the ui of the level editors confuse me

[brave hemlock]

it is pretty confusing

but once you get a hang of it it's the only editor you'll ever want to use

[leaden juniper]

anywhere to start

[brave hemlock]

Tutorials on youtube

actually if you have source games like idk tf2, check out Hammer tutorials, it's very similar to UDB

[leaden juniper]

wait i already know hammer well enough

so udb is like, hammer lite or smth?

[atomic drum]

I would recommend that you use Doom Builder 2, however for whatever reason the site is either not currently working or has been taken down.

[brave hemlock]

basically

[solar brook]

Ultimate DOOM Builder Masterrace

[brave hemlock]

but in 3D view instead of WASD it's ESDF by default for some reason so be wary of that

[solar brook]

You can change the keybinds tho

[brave hemlock]

yea by default

[leaden juniper]

i found this cool guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucWtn__O8Q&list=PL-36gm0W-VKmfVVCGe1HTVABepUXshxjY

is it good

[brave hemlock]

chubzdoomer and doomkid have good tutorials about various stuffs

[leaden juniper]

how do i fix this

[solar brook]

add the gzdoom.pk3 from your gzdoom installation folder as a resource package

[leaden juniper]

i did yeah

stoobid me

[solar brook]

[cloud tangle]

fuck it yall can have an updated map04 today

work has been slow going

[brave hemlock]

map04 moment

[cloud tangle]

for real ‼️

[cloud tangle]

i uh, forgot to update the map for yall

(theres some things that need to be fixed)

[cloud tangle]

discord isnt letting me send the file agh

[bitter flame]

F

[cloud tangle]

real

[cloud tangle]

guess ill just work on map03 now

[indigo vigil]

Hey all. I'm making a Doom II map called "MAYHAM". I'm a beginner to doom modding but after playing doom for numerous years I thought I'd have a go at modding it! I've made music for MAP01. MAP02 is partly finished - it just needs a bit of work. If you want to test it I can make a group and add you to it. 🙂
Here are some pictures:

I'm also trying to follow the rules by John Romero while making these levels so it looks and feels like an actual doom map.

[cloud tangle]

from what i see here, and mind you this is from an ameteur doom mapper; the walls need more texture, add some variation, besides some straight lines, use more lighting, to contrast, and use more decoration objects. besides that, it looks pretty good!

if youd also like a damn good map by another active user in this channel, i recommend Beneath Hell, by @hexed jungle (yes oscult, i am pinging you because im too lazy to find the .wad file)

[indigo vigil]

thanks! i'm getting help from my friend with the stuff now

[cloud tangle]

and, if you ever need inspiration, i highly encourage you play through the original dooms and see what tricks the mappers used there

[indigo vigil]

i have it in a list 🙂

[cloud tangle]

wait, theres a list of rules? i just flung myself into slade at one point and just went from there

[indigo vigil]

yep

[hexed jungle]

I have an updated version, I'll post it in a sec

[indigo vigil]

1. always change floor height when changing floor texture (and vice versa) 2. always add a special border texture when changing wall segments 3. be strict about texture alignment 4. use contrast between light, dark, cramped, and open areas 5. if you can see out of the map, you can somehow get there 6. have several secret areas per map 7. make maps flow naturally so player revisits areas 8. create several easily recognizable landmarks/structures so the player knows where they are when they revisit said areas

[hexed jungle]

Same parameters as before: no jumping, mouse look is fine, gzdoom only. If you anyone has any feedback I'm all ears. The third area is still in early stages but if you wanna explore it then no clip and god mode are your friend.

[cloud tangle]

oh shit i might need to follow these

[bitter flame]

Will try it. My mod is having some issues. For some reason the exit switch on map 7 will not work lol.

[cloud tangle]

i always forget to select the trigger

[bitter flame]

Selected lol

[cloud tangle]

was it the issue?

[bitter flame]

Nope

[cloud tangle]

welp, thats all i could think the issue is

[bitter flame]

F

[leaden juniper]

misaligned textures look ugly most of the time

[cloud tangle]

yeah, the crates should always be made in multiples of 64 units

[cloud tangle]

i love water based maps, i love water based maps, i love water based maps

[bitter flame]

I mean somewhere out there someone has to have made a underwater map

[hexed jungle]

Now I wanna do one lol. Maybe have a hole in the ground for entrance to some underwater area, and use self referencing sectors for the deep water effect. In a certain area of the water have a linedef that teleports you to the underwater area, and it could be something like pallette swapped doom 2 textures or a custom set. The underwater area would do 5% damage without suits.

[bitter flame]

Would definintly be interesting

[cloud tangle]

oh my god ive never gone so hard on a map, this level is gonna slap

its like, these aqueducts you travel through and oh my god it looks so good
might be the zaza talking tho

[bitter flame]

Nice

[signal crescent]

add me

[cloud tangle]

what

[brave hemlock]

zaza 🧐🧐🧐

mf on that megasphere high

[cloud tangle]

dude it bleeds doom 64 architecture

(insert map10: the bleeding joke here)

[cloud tangle]

fuck it cyberdemon monster closet

[bitter flame]

lol

[cloud tangle]

question: would a cyberdemon fight or a giant fight with cacos, barons, mancubi, pain elementals, etc be more fun

i also think the sheer fear factor of a fucking cyberdemon showing up in a place youre backtracking to

[runic breach]

depends

u can make both shitty and both fun

but generally i think the bigger fight would be more fun if it's just a singular cyberdemon

[brave hemlock]

both

i mean all at once

[grave flare]

my very very first map!!!11!!!1!
so there are several design choices that might be a bit confusing at the start:

• eye switches are shootable switches
• eye switch with beating heart pillar spawns extra monsters
• gray doors with red edges are not meant to be opened by any way cuz theres nothing behind it
  (I know its a s*** design but I wanted to add city levels eventually and there are areas where u r just running on the street)
• brown doors are manual doors
• green doors are remote doors

I know for a game like doom, which is supposed to be able to pick up and play instantly, the fact that i have to explain these in the first place is not the best thing in the world but I gotta do it

crap sent that too early

any ideas for my first map ever?

[grave flare]

oh also forgot to mention this is the pwad, the iwad is doom2

[cloud tangle]

guys i now know why every 12 year old on this discord is asking how to get brutal doom, it fucking SLAPS

it is VERY stimulating too

[lusty dove]

I tried it and it seemed boring and dumb

[cloud tangle]

its very high quality, but theres simply wayy too much going on

a very good mod is drla

oh also lasting light that one is so good

[runic breach]

not rlly

it only feels like that cuz of how over-the-top the gore and effects are

brutal doom just makes u FEEL like ur doing more

[cloud tangle]

hence why i say theres too much going on

[runic breach]

i say there isn't because other mods have way more shit going on relatively

[cloud tangle]

also how much effort is it to implement gore like that

[runic breach]

no idea

ive only mucked around w/ movement

[cloud tangle]

too much going on on screen, i mean its overstimulating sometimes

[cloud tangle]

turbo 1000

[runic breach]

maybe i have ADHD

[cloud tangle]

i have adhd

its the sounds is what mainly fucks with me

[whole blade]

there's definitely more mechancially going on. way more weapons added, way more enemy variants, items, marines to rescue ... it's definitely got a shit load jammed in there

and that's before you get to the sensory overload with all the extra (too loud) sounds and vfx

[runic breach]

yeah

bd isn't a bad mod

[whole blade]

it's improved a lot but it's still far from good

compare it to something slickly designed like supercharge

[runic breach]

mhm

tho i am a bit hyped for brutal fate, sgt mark's new game

[whole blade]

that being said i like Insanity Deathmatch which is .... chaotic as hell lol

brutal fate does look good

mark's sprite work is fantastic

and he's gotten really good at vfx

[runic breach]

yup

[pearl brook]

I have been addicted to Brutal DooM for maaany years now. Its one of my favorite ways to purge lifes baggage. I will play it till the day I die, it just doesn't get old for me. I will pick it over ANY AAA title. The legs of the engine are nothing short of amazing. I've even played it in VR, like what the actual

[indigo vigil]

never tried it, might try it out

[indigo vigil]

anyone wanna test my new wad

[urban flame]

yeah, i think it's a neat mod but after a while i also feel like it's too much in a way. i think im just nostalgic for the vanilla feel usually lol

[urban flame]

me me me

[indigo vigil]

ill give you the link 🙂

[urban flame]

thank you bud

[indigo vigil]

no problemo

[urban flame]

Hey all, just recently finished my first map, Blood Processing. I worked on it for a few weeks and am entering into a doomworld community project. If anyone wants to give it a go let me know! (Also, send me your maps-I love to test play and meet other mappers).

[indigo vigil]

holy shit this is amazing

[brave hemlock]

looks kinda interesting

[hexed jungle]

Sure, I will

[hexed jungle]

I'll try yours too

[bitter flame]

Yo how did you get the blood on the floor? Looks nice

[indigo vigil]

brutal doom

it's an amazing mod

whoops

[bitter flame]

Nice

[bitter flame]

Agreed lol

[indigo vigil]

someone spilled their slurpee

[urban flame]

Thank you ❤️

[bitter flame]

Wait where is the doomworld community project? I have not heard anything about this lol

[urban flame]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133250-doomworld-maximum-project-2023-come-one-come-all/

deadlines end of the year pretty much anyone can join 🙂

[bitter flame]

Nice

[plain sundial]

Oh noes

[indigo vigil]

what is your guys' favorite maps/WADs ever?

[runic breach]

sunlust

[haughty flower]

Currently, Auger;Zenith

[crude vapor]

Oops wrong channel

[royal wave]

https://vxtwitter.com/kbeevans/status/1728288575006122123?s=20

[brave hemlock]

ive never seen this wad, looks cursed af

i was already scared of you before kev and now im even more scared

[royal wave]

you've never seen it because I've never released it, and won't release it for a long while

[brave hemlock]

okay then im still scared

[quiet igloo]

Well, it's not really my work. Suddenly, a small part of the community secretly decided to make a megawad. And now I want to share what they've done with you. It was awesome.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141703-boom-gift-for-dron12261-a-collective-megawad/
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/3413/boom-gift-dron12261-collective-pack
http://i.iddqd.ru/viewtopic.php?p=136090#136090

[atomic drum]

Mini-update for Rebirth Of Damnation, the page is currently up, however the WAD will be released December 10th. A trailer and screenshots are currently available to check out.

Link: https://www.moddb.com/mods/rebirth-of-damnation

[haughty flower]

So I've been trying to mod my No Rest for The Living wad.
There's the community MIDI pack, and the cool intermission screen that's has a map on it (like the intermission in DOOM 1).

What is PISSING ME OFF though, is that I have no idea how to make them work together.

If I load the midi pack first before the intermission mod, the intermission somehow loads the default DOOM 2 music. And if I load the intermission screen mod first before the midi pack, the intermission screens don't appear.

What in the actual hell do I do here?

[whole blade]

Does the midi pack have a Mapinfo lump?

Resources overwrite in reverse load order, ie stuff loaded later overwrites things loaded earlier

[junior hollow]

So I have been working on a Heroes of Might and Magic themed Doom Mod recently :}
I’ve been making the sprites from pre-remders and so far it’s turning out great!

[brave hemlock]

dang..

[haughty flower]

Heroes of Might and Magic Doom? huh that's a cool idea, keep us posted

[junior hollow]

Will do :}
I’m working on a bone dragon right now

[hexed jungle]

Peekaboo, I see you

[brave hemlock]

heroes of ripping and tearing

[brave hemlock]

he just wanna say hi

[eternal scroll]

Has someone remade the entirety of another FPS in the GZDOOM engine?

Like Star Wars Dark Forces?

Or what about a demake of sorts

Has anyone done a demake of DOOM64 or DOOM 2016?

[runic breach]

yes

doom 64 ce, psx ce also exists

there's also several demakes of doom 2016's gameplay but not the levels

[runic breach]

same with dusk, quake, doom eternal, duke nukem, and i think blood

there's also an entire quake fangame, quake champions doom edition, that has even more content than quake champions

[runic breach]

never mind there's a nearly complete blood remake

only missing one level it seems

[junior hollow]

Doom 64 I know for sure is
Dark forces wasn’t remade but I think all of its weapons and enemies made it into Xim’s Star Wars mods

[eternal scroll]

Is the Youtuber Midnight in this server?

And has he found “the most disturbing DOOM mod” for the 500th time? ||(not hatin’ on him btw)||

[hollow meadow]

Despite the clickbait and calling every single wad "the most disturbing doom wad" those videos are still kinda interesting to watch

[haughty flower]

They are

[eternal scroll]

No they are very good vids

Thats why I said I wasn’t hating

I just think the clickbait names are funny and also I wanted to know if he was in this server

[cloud tangle]

my 5 second attention span ass needs a civvie video
i click of usually

off*

[runic breach]

midnight fits his content completely bc it's mid and makes you sleepy

[plucky marlin]

I like midnight his videos keep me hooked

[hexed jungle]

FILBERT

Where your map 4 bro

Been waitin for the drop

[crystal perch]

In Honor of Half-Life's 25th Anniversary, I've created a remake of "Surface Tension" In DOOM 2016's SnapMap Editor. The Map ID Is SKLL73DT. Enjoy!

[haughty flower]

yooo nice

[bitter flame]

Yo @hexed jungle if I dm it to you do you know if you can test my mod? I need another opinion about how difficult it is currently

[hexed jungle]

Sure, I'll try to get to it sometime in the next day

[bitter flame]

Okay. I will send it to you sometime soon

[haughty flower]

Has anyone played Doom zero?

I just wanted to talk about it

[hexed jungle]

Yea, I just replayed it a few days ago

[haughty flower]

I'm still into my first playthrough

And I'm playing the console version, not the current version, but I play the current now and then

[hexed jungle]

I haven't played anything other than the unity version since I had doom on ps4 before I ever got a pc

I know there are a lot of changes between the two for some areas

[bold breach]

is there a way to make slopes without converting to UDMF?

[eternal scroll]

They should make a mod like MyHouse except you’re miniature and everything is giant sized and a giant Cyberdemon is chasing you throughout the map, it should be called MyDad and the goal should be to get a soda-textured keycard from the gigantic fridge without alerting the demon

Actually make it a giant Pinky and have him hold a single Sandal, give him a tanktop

[haughty flower]

LMFAO

[bold breach]

working on a map of the area around my school

some resource suggestions would be nice

[bold breach]

also could some help me with this ^

[junior hollow]

I prefer Hexen type maps, it allows slopes too

[brave hemlock]

at least doom is not counter strike

[teal wyvern]

you could look at different texture packs that you can use

there's one named otex that's very popular and it has a lot of cool looking textures

[junior hollow]

If you wanted, you are free to use my textures and decorations I’ve made for this mod, there’s a good variety in here and they’re all decent resolutions
If you wouldn’t mind crediting me if you do use them though

https://www.moddb.com/mods/mall-trip-map

[teal wyvern]

you pinged the wrong person homie lol

i'll keep your stuff in mind though, i've been working on a map myself but i'm still pretty far from the detailing/texturing phase

[junior hollow]

Great job, I like the detail on the windows!

[fading zephyr]

Not sure if this is the place to put this but here goes. Bonelab is a physics driven game but what if you could play doom mixed with this as well. It's a start so far as you can fight doom 1 and 2 enemies but no maps yet. Yet being the key word. But yeah check this gem out.
https://youtu.be/8zchTJ-BoKY?si=T2yyJvoycpU2IAtX

[uneven thistle]

hey can anyone help me? im trying to use a doom mod on linux and i cannot get the mod to work

when i try to just launch the mod, i get an error about playpal not found, and if i try and launch it with doom 1, i get an error message about the game being a sharewear version (even though its not)

[haughty flower]

Explain what you're doing in steps? What sourceport you're running? What mod, how are you launching

[stable fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1116523665383768154/1180376930176999445/anti-furry-brutal-doom.mp4?ex=657d32ae&is=656abdae&hm=4338f6131a2f52f85ac2fee7624e4696154322cb42eabf4af37a71ddf3bee419& does anyone know what this mod is lol

[hexed jungle]

Anyone have any idea why "actor enters sector" things and linedef actions wouldn't be working in DSDA 0.27.5 with MBF21? The map format I'm using is doom 2 UDMF and the iwad is DOOM2.WAD. I was under the impression that unlike PrBoom+, DSDA would be able to run UDMF maps, but GZDoom is basically the only sourceport that runs this thing it seems.

[royal wave]

https://vxtwitter.com/kbeevans/status/1731411505915318440?s=20

[bitter flame]

I just released the first alpha version of my mod. Any feedback would be appreciated: https://www.moddb.com/mods/project-argent-overload

[cloud tangle]

i got lost mb

(cant consistently be on discord bc of family issues)

or online, period.
fuckers cant take away my school computer so stuff is STILL being done, just a little slow

though motivation has been hard from said family issues

[whole blade]

DSDA supports UDMF, but that doesn't mean it supports everything GZDoom does

UDMF is just a file format

zdoom, zandronum, eternity, gzdoom and dsda all support udmf file structures and they all have different featur sets

[lusty dove]

This misconception drives me crazy

[hexed jungle]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

[whole blade]

there's a list of the new UDMF related features that DSDA supports somewhere

[lusty dove]

In my opinion, this kind of misconception is the direct outcome of the community morphing the term UDMF to simply mean “gzdoom format”

[runic breach]

me i want sick doom mods

[haughty flower]

You are very welcome uwu

[mellow granite]

why would you want to punch the boy kisser cat?

[sterile prism]

You must kill it

It is the icon's father

It must die

[mellow granite]

fair enough, what's in hell must upto no good.

[bitter flame]

Does anyone know if zandronum works with zscript? I wanted eventauly play through my mod with a friend but it uses zscript and I thought I heard somewhere Zandronum only did DECORATE.

[uneven thistle]

im playing the legand of doom mod (tLoZ in doom)
im running the command:

./zandronum -iwad doom/DOOM.WAD -file LegendOfDoom-1.1.0/LegendOfDoom-1.1.0.pk3

zandronum is my launcher, works with other mods and vanilla doom, -iwad tells it whhere the doom wad is, -file tells it where mod pk3 is
im getting the error msg:

Script error, "LegendOfDoom-1.1.0.pk3:zmapinfo" line 122:
DoomEdNums: Unknown top level keyword

[mellow granite]

oh i see why.

[runic breach]

you are WRONG!

boykisser neg diffs doom slayer

[haughty flower]

try it with latest GZDoom, might be using some scripting not supported by Zandronum

[uneven thistle]

i set gzdoom up the exact same, but im getting the error
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
i cant find anything about this on google... sorry to bug you more guys

[mellow granite]

wait, i thought it's all the same.

[haughty flower]

it's not the same, different ports don't support the exact same things

[haughty flower]

could be a bug with the mod itself, can you find the mod page and ask the creator about it?

[mellow granite]

true but i thought most scripting will work with each other.

[runic breach]

welcome to doom

[quiet igloo]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141905-scythe-reforged-teaser-map20/
http://i.iddqd.ru/viewtopic.php?p=136300#136300

[whole blade]

it does not

[bitter flame]

Oof. Is there any multiplayer sourceport that does?

[whole blade]

i mean, gzdoom does support multiplayer. it's just peer to peer and therfore gets squirrely with more than 2-3 people if they're spread out across the world

but zscript is gzdoom exclusive

at least for now

there are talks of maybe adding zscript support to zandronum but that's a while away (if ever)

[runic breach]

aren't they still lacking full decorate support lol

[bitter flame]

How do I use the gzdoom multiplayer? It was just one person and is close enough we could try LAN if the networking doesn't want to work

[whole blade]

that's not really how it works. zandro forked off from gzdoom a decade ago and put the focus on net code. anything new after that point has to work with zandro's netcode, which is why zscript has not been added. that being said there's been a lot of development on zandro the last 12-18 months so work is being done to fold in new features

[whole blade]

port forwarding iirc

[runic breach]

yeah, i know, i just heard in another modding server that zand doesn't have full decorate support

not sure how true that is though 🤷

[whole blade]

there's no definition of "full" support

other than what the port devs decide they want to support

[runic breach]

that's fair since we don't have a decorate or zscript standard lol

[whole blade]

exactly

it's all very vague

and usually the people who complain just want their own whims catered to

like when i complain zandro doesn't support multi tagged sectors or udmf slope fields

which i complain about a lot lol

i think multi tagged sectors are being added in?

[eternal scroll]

Has anyone made a Dunder Mifflin map?

[real sigil]

Hiya guys, I’m finally releasing my first wad internally explodes of exhaustion
Imma link both the thread and the download directly (for lazy people 💀)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/139171-6066wad-—-can-you-remodel-reality-with-doom/

Make sure to drag and drop both 6066.WAD and 6066TEX.WAD on GZDoom only because of .udmf format!

[runic breach]

WOAHHHHHHHH

[real sigil]

7 months down, xx more to go

All y’all’s sweet comments are my fuel

[leaden juniper]

playing some shovelware wads

this ain't bad, this ain'T half bad

i'll just wait till it becomes shit

[severe swift]

How did you change a texture's offset?

[whole blade]

put a number in the offset field

or you can move it with the arrow keys in 3d mode

[real sigil]

Oh <@&162901871168585728>

[solar brook]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[real sigil]

Thanks

[leaden juniper]

doom and griddy (still wip)

[whole blade]

looks good

[obsidian schooner]

Yoo

[lime raptor]

here is one of the creepiest doom wads https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi9up6h-oCDAxXgJDQIHbEnCK4QFnoECAwQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.doomworld.com%2Fforum%2Ftopic%2F134292-myhousewad%2F&usg=AOvVaw25ypT51YL6Q9L7WKVflZR6&opi=89978449

[haughty flower]

yes, everyone knows about myhouse.wad

[eternal scroll]

You think there’s someone out there that knows Myhouse.wad that doesn’t know a thing about DOOM?

Like some kid sees a Cacodemon and they think “Oh thats one of the monsters from MyHouse”

Kinda like kids who see G-Man and think “Omg Skibidi Toilet!”

[brave hemlock]

yeah at this point myhouse is it's own thing

[wispy bobcat]

55555555

[indigo vigil]

i hate that bullshit these kids have come up with nowadays

blame all these yt kids creators

[whole blade]

imagine letting yourself get upset by what teenagers enjoy lol

[brave hemlock]

dont lie to yourself

the gmod shit that was popular at its inception was also terrible in hindsight

[eternal scroll]

Not all of it

Not all…

https://youtu.be/M9J6DKJXoKk?feature=shared

[brave hemlock]

okay this animation rocks

this would be impressive for sfm

but it's all in gmod

[whole blade]

bruh
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142015-rc1-eviternity-ii/

[haughty flower]

Amazing, the first one was perfect !

[timid flume]

Happy 30th Birthday, Doom!!

[runic breach]

teens don't watch skibidi toilet btw

the audience is mainly tweens n below afaik

[sterile schooner]

at least 50% of the people that played myhouse.wad are like that I'm pretty sure

[real sigil]

Yeah I only know a few people who watch it unironically and theyre all below 13

[ancient mesa]

this is a modified Doom 1 IWAD, you shouldn't do that

there's a test map inside it which uses UDMF and ACS, which are not vanilla

[whole blade]

distribution of the iwads is also not allowed here

edited or otherwise

[atomic drum]

Salutations all on this fine day. The time has come for the celebration of Doom's 30th anniversary! I had stated previously that I would post an update when Rebirth Of Damnation was released, and it seems we've arrived.

ROD download:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rebirth-of-damnation

(calling it an unofficial expansion is a bit of an overstatement. Not my decision as I didn't write the mod summary, although I did write most of the mod description.)

[quasi willow]

sigil 2 finally released
wooooooooo

[bitter flame]

Has anyone made the PSX Nightmare spectre for doom 2 mods yet?

[eternal scroll]

Anyone know how to get PSXDOOM with 3DO Music and DOOM 64 sprites?

[valid basin]

afadoomer com/wolf3d/files/Wolf3D_TC_3.1.zip

(add a period between before the com)

[eternal scroll]

This it?

PSXDOOM with 3DO music and 64 sprites?

[valid basin]

no

that's a wolfenstein 3d tc

really cool and better than ecwolf imo

[eternal scroll]

Cool

[quiet igloo]

So, here is the release of Russian Random Speedmap Pack #2. We have made 23 maps, which can show both interesting views with combat and experiments with gameplay.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142098-russian-random-speedmap-pack-2-23-new-interesting-maps-happy-birthday-doom/

[junior hollow]

I got the urge to work some more on my WW1 doom mod, so I’m remastering the sprites and adding some more infantry types
I got the German Empire Rifleman completed :}

I completed the second enemy infantry type for my WW1 Mod, the Trench Raider.
If the Rifleman is more representative of the early war, the Trench Raider is much more evocative of the late war. He is donning a steel helmet with darker colors and his uniform is soaked with mud and blood.
He wields the iconic MP-18 SMG.

[primal charm]

Hello! I am doing a research paper on how linear algebra was used in the classic Doom Engine since the source code and I have been poking around it but have been struggling to find places where linear algebra is used explcitly, I was checking out r_ files to look for places in the renderer where it could have been used but wasn't having any luck. Any suggestions?

[real sigil]

It’s more programmer oriented, but the episodes FOV and Walls in Coder Space’s Doom series has a lot of charts throughout the videos showing implementations of algebra and trigonometry. However the videos are meant for programmers to look and do rather than teaching the math, so it’s up to the viewer to work out the problems themselves. I still have my notes (although a horribly written mess only I can read).

There’s other videos out there of course, but that’s the one I recall with the most math charts in there

[primal charm]

thats perfect (i am a programmer doing a project for my linear algebra class)

will check that out!

[mystic ibex]

Anyone here know how to create a doom source port?

[whole blade]

get good at coding

code stuff

????

profit

(i lied, it has to be for free under GPL3 license)

[brave hemlock]

https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM and snoop around

rewrite it in rust 🤑

[runic breach]

dust

or room

or doust

or ruom

[mystic ibex]

Wouldn’t it be the source code that has to be free after making major changes to the engine? I’ve heard there had been a couple indie games (and no, not half life or cod) that has a highly modified quake 3 engine, and still sold a game, while at least on of them being open source.. then again, I’m comparing quake 3 over classic doom

Also @brave hemlock, thanks for sending me that, I’ll look into the GitHub source page, but I can’t really rewrite it in rust.

[runic breach]

it's only under GPL if you're forking it off the og doom code

you can make it from scratch and just use the doom standard as reference (not recommended tbh)

or you can translate it to another language bc algorithms aren't copyrighted lmao (assuming this is how gpl3 works)

[mystic ibex]

Ok, so forking the code to use as a base, and rewriting practically everything that wasn’t there, and original assets, would still be under gpl, got it.

[runic breach]

wdym rewriting everything that wasn't there

[runic breach]

the assets aren't gpl, only the code is

the assets are what you pay for when you buy doom

[mystic ibex]

Here’s what I mean:
*additional weapon slots
*different gameplay elements(for example, stamina, food, or jumping systems)
*making original game modes
*secondary attacks for weapons
*etc

Some of these stuff sounds more like it would just be used for quake, as quake has less limitations than doom, but I thought of making a heavily modified engine using the original doom source code as the base.

[runic breach]

ah alright

that's doable even without having to do engine programming lol, you can use gzdoom and release commercial projects with it

but it seems like your goal is an engine and not a game so go with it

[brave hemlock]

broom engine

im actually planning on making a quake engine type beat in rust but im addicted to playing video games

[haughty flower]

real

[whole blade]

Doom's source code was released under gpl3, so any ports that use jt must have the same license

[whole blade]

You'd get sued into oblivion lol (I know way too much about gpl3, perks of publishing a bunch of gzdoom games)

[karmic egret]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/unchanged/downloads/changed-doom-mod-v-01#downloadsform

Yay my first ever doom mod

[mystic ibex]

Well engine wise, I’ll have to follow the gpl3 laws, and release the source code for free, which I am alright with (obviously)

Just the curious question is mainly just say you make a game with the custom engine, it will also have to be free, correct?

[icy delta]

Does anybody know how to add Sigil into Brutal Doom?

[whole blade]

nope, the game can be sold (there are at least 60 commercial gzdoom games being sold). but any gpl3 code has to remain gpl3. this includes any alterations, or code based off of gpl3 licensed code

for code to not be gpl3, it has to be a clearly identifiable separate program

[primal charm]

just checked it out and also watched a little bit of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I845O57ZSy4&ab_channel=LexFridman

after hearing them chat, i am gonna look into how the compiled scalars work with moving enemies, it sounds like they would have to use some sort of transformation to get them to scale

do you guys have any experience with that in the code, im not sure where to look for that

[real sigil]

Unfortunately I can’t help you there cause I’ve been too busy trying to get my current silly project to work to continue to research doom to that point haha

[runic breach]

no

sell the levels and assets

why do you think doom still costs money

[whole blade]

you can 100% sell your game with gzdoom bundled

GPL3 is explicitly a commercial license

[mystic ibex]

Ah, so all I got to do is basically when I’m done making modifications to the code (which will take a while), make my own assets, I could just release a demo of my game, with the source code already on GitHub, and can sell my game.

||Sure, I could just use GZdoom, but I do want to at least attempt myself||

I also noticed that the source code is Linux based, which for the most part is exactly what I’m going to need due to the current ide I’m using… which I won’t disclose that yet

[royal wave]

This is not how source code works or even what GPL allows

Language to language is still a form of code copying since you need to look at the original source in order to copy it

If you can intuit a behavior (and maybe by some miracle replicate the behavior identically), that in of itself is not copying the source

The only vector of making a Non-gpl version of Doom is the intuit method. WHich would require a firm understanding of how the code works before any work approaches it

[cloud tangle]

youre kidding

furry doom mod

[cloud tangle]

the question is; do i play it? im oddly intrigued

[runic breach]

well yeah

but i mean they're not technically paying for gzdoom

[runic breach]

i see, thanks

[mystic ibex]

Would I need to compile all 4 files, or just the first 4?

Wait, I don’t need to compile the readme text, lol

I tried to see what happens if I used make just as a test on the Linux doom folder and oh boy 👀

[runic breach]

it's 1993 code

might be some differences in how you compile it

work off a more cleaned-up and user-friendly codebase, i've heard chocolate doom is more readable and easy to work with

[brave hemlock]

isnt the github source already a cleaned and tidied up of 1993 doom lmfao

id was definitely cooking

[runic breach]

i remember reading it was a slightly updated version from like... 1996?

[brave hemlock]

judging from readme.txt it's from 1997