classic-doom-maps-mods

[pale pagoda]

would anyone help me?

[runic breach]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/162899420013264896/1137421164407439441/VennDiagram.png

[pale pagoda]

i don't ant oyu to do it for me i want you to help me

[runic breach]

no offense, it's personally not unique enough of a concept to interest me

i'll help someone who comes up with an idea for a cool gimmick wad

[pale pagoda]

ok, maybe you don't like the concept of enchacing old classic doom, that's fine. . . but it would be very nice from you

sorry that i can't gave you the folder of the wad consepts

[loud spruce]

Maybe you should approach the Doomworld forums, but I cannot guarantee.

[pale pagoda]

thanks

[runic breach]

go to some mapping discords + the zdoom discord

[pale pagoda]

ok i will try

[loud spruce]

The reason on why Doomworld is a good place because many projects started there, such as Doomkid’s Rowdy Rudy.

[mellow coral]

Does anyone know a good place for free to use midis? Not just songs from other games but mostly in general

[pale pagoda]

yeah, i kinda have trouble logging in, i have right gmail and i ckucjed the send button multiple times but it never send me the verification

[grand token]

That's an unfortunately common bug. Try logging in through your Discord account.

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1688780388716679168?s=20

kevy Mckevyface (@kbeevans)

I recreated the #Pokemon Crystal intro in #GZDoom

▶ Play video

Twitter · Aug 8, 2023, 5:13 AM

[pale pagoda]

??

[slate maple]

not the many hours of playstesting to make sure shit works ...

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1688979271841427456?s=20

kevy Mckevyface (@kbeevans)

This is a weird pokemon battle...

Twitter · Aug 8, 2023, 6:23 PM

[haughty flower]

Hope you have the ultra ball 9000

[signal swift]

Rocks and spikes

It'll help in making it feel more lived in

[lusty dove]

How do I make that tho

[slate maple]

beta version of my MegaWad is up

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130278-the-eldritch-runes-of-discord-beta/

read all the shit or else you might have a bad time

[runic breach]

the spikes can be jagged

telescopic i mean

rocks, just make tiny lil sectors

[brave hemlock]

the oblivious legends of x.com when

[signal swift]

Check Realm667 for some premade things you can drop into your WAD and place around the map

[lusty dove]

ah like sprite rocks?

[signal swift]

Yeah

[lusty dove]

yeah that could work

[gusty plinth]

Got bored of other maps I was working on so I decided to start making a new one. Almost done with texturing so some walls aren't textured yet, there's also going to be an elevator which will take you downwards to a open small court-area like in Quake's E1M1.

[heady fog]

Whaa u can make a map how

[gusty plinth]

I use Ultimate DOOM Builder with GZDoom for testing
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=66745
If you are starting to get into DOOM mapping, I highly recommend looking up some DOOM Builder tutorials on YouTube

[heady fog]

i dont know how to set up mods in Doom 2 i want to set mods in doom 2 rerelease on steam

[gusty plinth]

I'm not sure how to set up mods in the DOOM 2 Re-Release as I preferably play with GZDoom and I'd strongly recommend using GZDoom. You could look it up

[heady fog]

its hard to find a tut

[gusty plinth]

I'm not actually sure if the Doom Re-release has external mod support, I think your best bet is to use a source port, you can find plenty of tutorials on how to install mods for source ports.

I believe only the Quake Remaster had external mod support, but I can't really confirm so I may be wrong

[sudden hill]

how do i mod on x box

[slate maple]

What do you mean?

[gusty plinth]

I'm sorry but you can't

[brave hemlock]

just making fun of the title thats all

[fierce surge]

Hello everyone

I'm making a curated list of Wads for a friend group I have. What does everyone consider to be the creme de crop of Doom wads? Like, must play or the most highly recommended ones.

I have a pretty sizable list already, all nicely sorted too

But there might always be something that slips on by, you know?

I would post an image of what I have so far but I don't have image perms and I don't know the etiquette here about posting Discord links to bypass that, so I'll stay on the side of caution for now. I guess you can DM me if you want to know what I have so far listed.

[teal wyvern]

embed the image link

[heady fog]

bro thats gonna need internet and this

[runic breach]

https://tenor.com/view/hindi-ikaw-ikaw-hindi-you-dont-stop-quit-gif-14296606

[hollow meadow]

You cant

Doom on Xbox has some wads available, located in the add-ons tab

[lusty dove]

My favorite is Eviternity

[fierce surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063715102592860170/1139064193010647070/image.png?width=278&height=668

This is what I've got listed so far, still a work in progress and any suggestions are appreciated

[lusty dove]

Add valiant, Eviternity, and sunlust (this one is hard)

And add plutonia to the iwads

[lusty dove]

I’d basically recommend scrolling thru the dean of doom playlist by mtpain27 and checking out ones that look interesting and see if he ranks them well

[fierce surge]

I've been mostly looking at Icarus so far, so thank you for the suggestion 🙂

Always a good day when you find another Classic Doom Youtuber

[haughty flower]

How to make custom armor?

[slate maple]

My map is getting free promotions on the Bethesda stream

I guess I’m a big deal

[slate maple]

Well they put me out of the frame. I guess they jelly

[lusty dove]

does anybody else just put random bullshit that has no logic or thought behind it and then afterwards come up with all of the reasons that that specific placement is good game design lol?

[gusty plinth]

Update

Messed with lighting, currently working on the elevator over there, you now pickup the shotgun from a dead corpse instead of the pedestal, configured some stuff for Ultra-Violence so 3 additional Imps and a Pinky will show up on the difficulty

[whole blade]

if it's fun then it is good

[grand token]

The golden rule

[toxic latch]

Any gzdoom mods worth downloading?

[runic breach]

i responded to you a while back

#classic-doom message
#classic-doom message

go to the cacowards and icaruslives on yt as well

[toxic latch]

Thanks mate

[runic breach]

no problem :D

[shut crane]

Temple level I am making

[brave hemlock]

temple template

[teal wyvern]

Looking interesting

[jade osprey]

I need help with Brutal Doom

[runic breach]

be specific

[jade osprey]

gzdoom.pk3 is overriding core lump engine/commonbinds.txt.

[runic breach]

how are you loading it

[jade osprey]

this

[runic breach]

you're just double-clicking it?

[jade osprey]

yea

am I not supposed to do that?

or do I gotta do somethin

[runic breach]

did you mess with the gzdoom.pk3

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131009-fixed-help-gzdoompk3-is-overriding-core-lump-engine-error/

there's this solution if you're willing to edit it

[jade osprey]

no, why?

[runic breach]

weird

you're on the latest version, right?

[jade osprey]

yea

latest vers

[runic breach]

probably has to do with how you load it i guess

try running it via zdl

[jade osprey]

zdl?

is it uhh

zandronum?

[runic breach]

zdoom launcher

[runic breach]

please use google

[jade osprey]

you've gotta be fucking with me

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-disappointed-gif-23456183

fuck this im done

[real sigil]

:>

https://youtu.be/Ja1oirWLw0w

[hexed jungle]

Got some screenshots of my first map that I've had on the backburner for a year

[runic breach]

sick

[hexed jungle]

Thanks, I'm still figuring out what textures I can use to break up all that green and still fit the stone theme

Also might get rid of the minotaur maze, I'm not sure how fun that would be to go through yet

[scarlet cape]

Why the fuck are you looking up and down and jumping

[runic breach]

it's a free country, mr. egg

[scarlet cape]

Its doom 1 tho

[runic breach]

did i stutter

[scarlet cape]

Bro do u have fucking powers

I was just asleep and as soon as i got this notification i was woken up by an electrical shock

[real sigil]

uhm acktually 🤓 this is a doom2 mod

And if y axis look and jumping are too modern for you might was well forget 3D floors (90% of my effort LOL)

[scarlet cape]

Nah everything else is fine its just looking up and down and jumping plus u can still see the floors and stuff

[runic breach]

giving a shit abt freelook and jumping is stupid when it's their own wad lmao

lots of wads are intended to have those features

[real sigil]

I don’t intend to force either feature, but specific areas do require crouching. In order to stay true to the actual design of my house, I had to make the wall secrets tiny doors

My next wad, though, I want to make a normal doom1 map. Just to take a break from all the unusual-ness I have planned 😂

[scarlet cape]

K

[ornate wraith]

Just here to ask a hopefully quick question. I have a converor belt connected to a teleporter. Once an enemy teleports at its destination it doesnt move off the teleporter and no more enemies can teleport in. I think a potential solution to this would be to alert the enemies but I can't do that before they exit the teleporter since that'll throw off the timing of the converor belt. Is there a way to automatically alert enemies once they're at their destination? I'm using Doom Builder 2, on Doom 2, with Zdoom (Doom) format.

[scarlet cape]

Mabye make it to where the player comes in through another teleporter and make it to where nothing can go back through the demon teleporter so that once the first demon sees the player then they move off of the teleporter and start attacking them and then all of the demons come flodding in through the teleporter

[ornate wraith]

Well that would only alert one monster at a time, and nothing can go back through the teleporter anyways.

[scarlet cape]

Hmm... good point.

[ornate wraith]

I looked at the zdoom wiki and there was some scripting stuff, and I put it in the script editor, but I didn't know how to use it

https://zdoom.org/wiki/NoiseAlert

[scarlet cape]

Imma try to decode this

If the target_tid is 0, then the thing that is alerted by the sound is the event that activates the script for that sound and if emitter_tid is 0, then it's the other way around with the event being what puts out the alert sound

Is what I'm getting from this

But nothing can't emit that sound, or be alerted by it

So it has to be something being activated or otherwise to work, I think

@ornate wraith

[ornate wraith]

sorry about not being here, busy, and i have to leave

[scarlet cape]

Ok

[ornate wraith]

ill come back later. thanks for all the help

[scarlet cape]

Np

[slate maple]

last chance to play my megawad before i pull the link. I will be putting more work into it, already have tons of changes i wnat to make but probably will not be done till next summer because i have other shit to do

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130278-the-eldritch-runes-of-discord-beta/

[lusty dove]

a couple questions:

1. why are you using a wad instead of a pk3
2. why not just leave the link up until the next version is ready

[slate maple]

Well for question 1. Becasue of a noob

only issue is that in active development, i cant edit maps on a PK3,

[lusty dove]

im making an eternity map thats a pke, and what i do is i just have the wad file outside, and then when im ready to send it to someone i just add it to the pke

i just have the resources pke and then the map wad file separate

[slate maple]

probalby smart, im still learning. It just was a bigger issue years ago. DO you just link your PK3 as a resource in doom builder? with all your maps in a wad?

[lusty dove]

yeah

[slate maple]

i learned something today

[lusty dove]

altho it would be nice in the future if udb could open maps in pk3s and pkes

[slate maple]

i asked on the UDB discord about a year os so ago and they said it was technically not possible

[lusty dove]

huh

thats annoying

[slate maple]

Does this look right to you?

oops its a zip

THERE

nothing in there yet. Just need to put every lump in when i get time

[lusty dove]

what is hires?

ah hi res textures

[slate maple]

y, but i am not using that

i made this "base" pk3 a few years ago

[lusty dove]

ah

looks good to me

for my pke, ive just been adding folders as ive needed them

[slate maple]

so some of athe critism i am getting about my mega wad are the guns and the complexity

i think people are too addicted to the chaingun

[royal wave]

Yes you can. You save your maps in the MAPS directory

[lusty dove]

no he means you cant open maps in an editor that are in a pk3

[slate maple]

These completly change how the game is played compared to normal doom. SO i guess i need to change its category into a MOD

[lusty dove]

looks really cool

when you guys make arena fights, do you come up with the concept of the fight before you make the shape of the arena? or do you make that first

i need to put one last arena in my map and i dont really know what to put. I know what i want the general aesthetic of the last room to look like and i have a few ideas for rooms that would look cool

[slate maple]

only a few arenas, my maps are layed out like classic doom maps. No slaughter style

[lusty dove]

but i dont want to fall into the pitfall of making something completely and then afterward having to figure out what to put in it combat wise

[slate maple]

I do use a arena with the slayer gates. they will feel ike Slaughter Lite

or boss fights

i suggest drawing it out, and figuring out what demon ingrediants it works with

but when i make maps, i let my mind just do it automatically. IT usually works ... but only have a little feedback to go on

[lusty dove]

huh

my mind isnt able to "do it automatically"

[slate maple]

grid paper is your friend in that case

with a pencil and eraser

[whole blade]

either method works. sometimes i'll make a space i think that's cool and then see what fight will fit in later, other times i'll have a specific fight concept in mind and build around that from the start

if you have space limitations to start with then thinking about what works in the area you have is a good place to start

[gusty plinth]

Working more on my DOOM II map, currently working on the Mineshaft area outside

really proud of how its turning out

[trail lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcVML2a-Wgo

[teal wyvern]

That looks very pretty!

[gusty plinth]

Thank you!

[teal wyvern]

what kind of map are you building pal?

[gusty plinth]

As in what the theme of the map is?

[teal wyvern]

theme, playstyle, gameplay, etc

give a description to your ideas basically

[gusty plinth]

Ah okay. Its meant to be a part of one big cultist facility (not the entire facility, just a part of it).

The map starts off in a big staircase room with lava and a cross with lava flowing and some Imps, going down the elevator you end up in a big outside area (Partially inspired by Quake’s E1M1 Outside area) with a dirt castle and the entrance to a Mineshaft around the corner. There is also some depiction that the soldiers are clearly at some kind of conflict with the demons with soldier and demons corpses littering the area, a dirt castle which was man-made to fight off the demons, etc. For the gameplay and play style, I want to encourage fast-paced fighting and also exploration, I want it to be quite difficult and also want weapons and items to be more spread out to encourage exploring and hunting for ammo and pickups.

My ideas currently is to have the Mineshaft breach through a part of the facility, as if the soldiers have been literally breaking through parts of the facility just to get to certain places. I’d also like to introduce bigger enemies and weapons through set pieces and scenarios slowly over time, possibly through out more maps.

[teal wyvern]

I like those ideas homie

Is it a UDMF map?

[gusty plinth]

I have lots of ideas for this map and more maps to continue off this one in hops of making a semi-short Megawad, like a plot, secrets, set pieces, etc.

[teal wyvern]

sorta like a 3-4 map set?

[gusty plinth]

I believe so, I’m not sure but I’ll probably check

I mainly just used whatever the default DOOM II settings for Ultimate Doom Builder are

I’ve essentially been self-teaching myself DOOM mapping for a little while and have made a few decent test maps, this is my first proper map that isn’t a test map

I know its crazy to be working on a Megawad as my first proper mapping for DOOM, but I’m actually quite confident I can pull off some good and fun stuff

[teal wyvern]

That sounds like a good goal

I'd say to not pursue such a big project for your first thing, focus on the first map first

[gusty plinth]

Yeah, I’m mainly focusing on making the first map, and afterwards once I’m confident the map is complete and is up to my liking I’ll begin with the next map, obviously I don’t want to make a crazy 32 level Megawad, in reality it would probably be 10 but that isn’t a goal, just an estimation. I do like it when maps are decently long so I’d probably go for that which I guess would make up for the length of the WAD

For the music, I would like to use custom tracks instead of the default DOOM II Soundtrack. GZDoom apparently supports a variety of sound formats allowing for proper non-MIDI tracks, I’d love to make some original tracks with my dad who loves making music with the guitar, but since that usually takes a lot of time I might resort to using some Nine Inch Nail MIDIs, I’ve found some really good ones on a MIDI website and I think are perfect for the tone

[teal wyvern]

try playtesting it often, once you think you have a somewhat decent gameplay loop where you can start detailing the map, try to use the time you take to beat the map as a marker for how long an average player will take to beat it

i got my map down to 21 minutes or so when played by me

so when i saw others play it they took like 40 minutes

[gusty plinth]

Thanks for the advice, I’ll keep that in-mind

[slate maple]

"your map is broken and X is happening!"

Me: Are you using custom mods?

"yes, im playing with brutal doom"

me: 🤦‍♂️

[lusty dove]

bruhhhh

that happened to me, when I posted my map, i made sure to say "this was made for eternity engine, do not play it in anything else, it definitely wont work" and someone was playing it with gzdoom

[whole blade]

Welcome to releasing doom content, enjoy your stay

[brisk plank]

BTSX seems very fun when you play with a randomizer mod, the maps look nice but wish they stood out more in ep1

I will play BTSX Ep2 and eh might as well play Ep3 after that

[primal charm]

People out here playing mods when I can't :

[haughty flower]

why can't you?

[primal charm]

I don't know what to do with the mods

[haughty flower]

Do you have GZDoom?

[primal charm]

And I'm on Xbox smhhh

[haughty flower]

Ah

[primal charm]

Hdhdkdjdndnfbfn trololololollooloodjdhdjdido

[haughty flower]

Can't you sideload applications with developer mode? Might be a custom version of ZDoom or somet you could use that way

[noble pike]

Sunder is hard

[ornate wraith]

Hey! I'm working on recreation of my house in Doom and something seems really off. I've been using a laser rangefinder to calculate distances, and converting every inch into 1.2 map units. Everything was fine so far until I got to my kitchen counters. Is doomguy really that short?

According to my rangefinder the counter is 34 inches , or 40.8 map units. tall

Is there a way or a mod to make doomguy taller?

[lusty dove]

Height units in doom are different than width units bc in the original doom, the screen was stretched vertically

So height units are bigger

[ornate wraith]

that's what i was guessing. Do you know the conversion rate?

[lusty dove]

I think 1 height unit = 1.5 width units

Wait no I think I’m wrong

Gimme a sec

[ornate wraith]

Ok. Thanks for your help btw

[lusty dove]

No it’s 1 height unit = 1.2 width units

[lusty dove]

Np

[ornate wraith]

That actually makes my math really easy, since height units are now on par with inches

Also end result. Doomguy's still a bit of a shortie, but he can see over the counter now.

[flat pebble]

Hmm imagine the guy who went through hell and back being short...

[slate maple]

i hate to gloat or brag but...

im just still amazed, that the intro to my mega wad is in the background for some of the quakecon hugo/marty speeches

[royal wave]

Me and a few friends were trying to figure out what wad that was during stream.

Got a link to it?

[ornate wraith]

Ok. Doomguy is still short, and cannot reach stuff on top of the fridge. Despite all that, the map's looking good. Also is there a mod to make doomguy taller? I would prefer him to be around 6 foot so my map can be more immersive.

[runic breach]

changing his size is certainly possible but you may have to code it yourself

[slate maple]

my WiP mega mod wad. It needs a lot of work still https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130278-the-eldritch-runes-of-discord-beta/

[ornate wraith]

Thanks for the advice

[teal wyvern]

make your stuff lower

doomguy is about 64 units tall

[ornate wraith]

Well I'm using irl measurements and I want to stick to them as closely as possible.

[teal wyvern]

make your stuff lower then

[ornate wraith]

Ok, off to lower my counter

(irl)

But serousily, I'll just stop complaining about doomguy's hieght. It's getting repitive, and if I really want him to be taller then I should look for a mod myself.

[teal wyvern]

the counter isn't too high at all in the map

[amber silo]

help door confusing

[ornate wraith]

Average doom builder user trying to make a door (impossible)

"I don't have time to play with myself" - John Doom

[amber silo]

i try mak door but it just doesnt feel like opening

i do everyting right

and its just like nuh uh

[ornate wraith]

Ok I'm having a bit of a problem. My custom texture doesn't show up on walls, but it does on floors

It's 19x13, so maybe it's too small.

[real sigil]

This is not from my actual mod I’m working on but from a throwaway wad where I test out stuff first before I risk messing up the real thing.

I learned how to import custom textures recently. My best test subjects I had on hand were some assets from my own game (unrelated to doom). So here’s how they look when out in a doom mod plus a screenshot from the original game

Pretty quick thing to learn, but I’d say it’s nice and even a bit weird seeing your own textures that you photoshopped and painted in a doom mod

[ornate wraith]

Did you use Slade?

That's what I'm trying to use for my custom texture, and it worked once, but after I did something the texture stopped working.

[real sigil]

I’m using slade, yes. To be more specific, I used slade to create the texture pack wad and udb to edit the map

https://youtu.be/lWoO6ts1KR0?si=T8cxj_yMw-tEIb4r

[real sigil]

Aw shoot. These assets were meant for my own game, never for doom . . . but now I’m super tempted to import all of my assets into a doom texture pack cause what if. But then I bonk myself and remember that I need to actually finish developing my game.

But afterwards I might just make a texture pack for the funny

[indigo grove]

Hello, I've been playing Doom for quite some time now, spurred by our beloved Dean of Doom, and I've been wanting to try my hand as making a custom WAD. I have downloaded Ultimate Doom Builder but I don't know how this works. Any help would be appreciated.

[real sigil]

https://youtu.be/OqFhVGl4AJQ?si=jdnTOvYDI4RkXCWR

You can make pretty complex maps with just these basics. The video may seem long because there is a lot of demonstration, but for newcomers, it often helps to see every little thing done visually

[ornate wraith]

Thanks for the link and the advice. I'm using Doom Builder 2 but it's probably a similar process

[lusty dove]

Maybe your scale value is off

Where did you get inch = 1.2 units

[ornate wraith]

@lusty dove dook wiki said 32 units is a meter

there's 39.37 inches in a meter, so i rounded down to 39 inches. Then i did something else and got 1.2

[lusty dove]

Yeah it should actually be 1.23

Idk how much that changes things, but it’s worth trying

[real sigil]

https://youtu.be/yQbngKnAeYw

[ornate wraith]

Oh yeah i remember it was some wonky number and i just simplified it. I don't think it would change much.

[ornate wraith]

Ok I just followed the tutorial roughly and it worked a treat. Thank you so much dude!

[real sigil]

No problem : )

[ornate wraith]

So do ACS scripts work in ZDoom format or only in Hexen format? If they only work in Hexen format how do I port my map over?

[teal wyvern]

pretty sure ACS should work just fine in zdoom format

[amber silo]

zdoom is litteraly zdoom

[ornate wraith]

ight

So I made the house and I want to add an outer wall to it so I can make an outside area. I've tried making a sector around the house but it just breaks the wall textures. How could I make a wall without creating any bugs?

[slate maple]

You need a void space between the inner and outer area's

[ornate wraith]

ok

[real sigil]

Not necessarily a void. What’s likely happening is that there’s a place on the outline that’s not properly thought of as as closed shape by the editor. Retrace the linedefs with the line tool to close the shape, then try again

Check out this message I replied to from long ago. Same concept

You can think of as the rectangle as your house. If I wanted to draw around the rectangle, I would have to retrace the original rectangle to help the editor rethink, then I can make a wall around the rectangle.

[ornate wraith]

I fixed my wall problem well enough for now

Although...

[real sigil]

lol highlight the floor and just change it back to grass

[ornate wraith]

Thanks, it worked.

[ornate wraith]

Is there a way to do a good glass effect? Right now it just looks odd...

[real sigil]

Import a custom transparent glass texture with slade3 then use it as a middle texture

[teal wyvern]

use the texture "SHAWN2" as a mid texture, then set the opacity low

[real sigil]

I’ve tried to mess with opacity myself but it doesn’t seem to respond. Is the setting called Alpha?

[hoary wigeon]

alpha is transparency

[real sigil]

Yeah I’ve messed with it many times and there’s no response

[ornate wraith]

Sorry for the late response, I had to go and do something. Where's the option to set the opacity to low? I'm using Doom Builder 2 so maybe I just don't have that option.

[teal wyvern]

Use Ultimate Doom Builder. It's more advanced and it has way more options.

[ornate wraith]

Would there be any issues porting over the map?

[teal wyvern]

No. You just open the map file as usual and work on it

But you will need to make the map into a different format that does support that kind of feature

[ornate wraith]

Thanks for all of your help. What kind of format should I use?

[teal wyvern]

What port do you use to test maps/play the game?

[ornate wraith]

@teal wyvern GZdoom

[teal wyvern]

ah cool

you should use the UDMF map format then

[ornate wraith]

Alright

It isn't the map. Am I supposed to do some conversion process or tick some box somwhere?

[teal wyvern]

you need to make it into a udmf map

open two windows of UDB, then on one side open your map normally and on the other create a new map in udmf

once that's done, select literally everything on your map, copy it and paste it into the new map.

[ornate wraith]

Sounds dumb. I love it

[teal wyvern]

it is dumb, but it works lol

[ornate wraith]

I forgot to import my custom textures. Time to this again

[teal wyvern]

you could've made it a new map in the wad

[ornate wraith]

I have no idea what you mean by that but I got the new textures in

[teal wyvern]

oh alright

i meant that you could've made the new map inside the wad file that has your textures.

that way you would've avoided having to re add them

[ornate wraith]

eh

I can use slade later to add in the textures

[ornate wraith]

So where's that opacity setting now that I'm using the right program?

[teal wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520800224914964482/1143579283290325012/image.png

make sure you set the texture both in the front and back

[ornate wraith]

After installing a new program, attempting to change the map format, changing the map format, and fiddling with a bunch of settings... It is complete

G L A S S

[teal wyvern]

😃

[ornate wraith]

Thank you so much dude. Couldn't have done this without you

[teal wyvern]

enjoy your new format pal!

[ornate wraith]

So what does Communicator Message (174) do? If it displays a message on the screen how do you use it, because I could do Dusk style dialogue.

[teal wyvern]

i have no clue what that does. you could look it up on the zdoom wiki, they have all the info about engine functions

[ornate wraith]

Yeah I'll try looking it up again. I didn't get anything the first time, but maybe I messed up something.

[ornate wraith]

Ok I got this page. It has a roughly similar name and the same action number.

It looks like the names for the action attributes changed names, which makes it a bit hard to understand.

And btw I give up on trying to understand this

@teal wyvern YOOOO! I copied some guy's script off of Reddit and got it working!

[teal wyvern]

ah you wanted to do a print

you could use the print screen function for that

[ornate wraith]

I'm using the print function now. I'm pretty sure I tried it before but I had no idea what I was doing, but that guy on Reddit did.

[teal wyvern]

Ah cool then

You're learning pretty quickly :)

[ornate wraith]

Also...

[teal wyvern]

that's adorable :3

[ornate wraith]

Least I could do for the help you guys have been

[teal wyvern]

thank you <3

[nocturne tusk]

Moon man

[real sigil]

First round of custom textures for my room. More to do

[waxen surge]

nice

[waxen surge]

which program did you use to make it?

[real sigil]

Ultimate doom builder for mapping and slade3 for custom textures

[waxen surge]

nice

[hoary wigeon]

the chambers

[waxen surge]

i still cannot get myhouse.wad to work

[real sigil]

The chambers?

[hoary wigeon]

your room

glad I wasn't the only one who thought of hyper detailing their living space when doing their house in doom

[real sigil]

Ah

Well I actually completed the entire house without any hyper detailed textures because I didn’t want to start off with the easy way. I preferred to force myself to experiment with magic tricks and such

By entire house I mean all the essential furniture and foundations. In the custom texture stage I use customs for everything I absolutely could not do without much pain with only the defaults and sector art

[rocky laurel]

I'm looking for someone willing to help me understand Complex Doom, LCA and God Complex

[runic breach]

wdym "understand"

[rocky laurel]

I am interested in some of the visual effects and porting them to Wrath of Cronos for a mod I am working on.

[runic breach]

oh

[smoky wedge]

so, it happens that my pc can handle big ass slaughtermaps on GZDoom, so

i did what i needed to do, play Okuplok on ultra violence with an op weapon mod

[real sigil]

This this may be the last interesting one for a bit

Anyways welcome back to another episode of thecringefactor attempts to break the game

[jovial nebula]

hey im trying to find a doom map called, dooms knight, or doomed heretic, i remember playing a long time ago on my ipad, and its basically a mappack for freedoom, but i really cant find much about it, theres one person who put brutal doom on it on youtube, but thats about it that i can find, here are a few screenshots i found, please help

[indigo grove]

What fun mega-WADs would you recommend?

[lusty dove]

Eviternity

[runic breach]

fraternity

[brisk plank]

Nostalgia

Fairly newer wad, but pretty fun if you want a more Doom experience

It's like the same difficulty as I'd wanna say Evilution, bc it's basically called a Plutonia Jr.

It's a really nice wad to play and it's fun as well, I play it with mods and makes the experience great

Maybe the only issue I have is after each episode arc, you must die and get rid of your weapons but otherwise it's still fine

If you're a pistol starter this issue is negligible

[lusty dove]

Eviternity is a recent megawad (2018) and its worlds are very well detailed and immersive, and the soundtrack is impeccable. The combat is also really fun and engaging

It has a really cool mystical atmosphere

[real sigil]

Bad habit. I thought it was alright for me to post just whenever I do something interesting, but now I finish stuff too quickly and post too often…next time I’ll try to post only when I’ve finished a room. But anyways, I finished this room for now. Certain tiny things like drawers and closet stuff will be done along with other like objects in the house.

https://youtu.be/ZL1gUCHOT_Q?si=MwEIdxzqU4aC4Ti8

[neon bobcat]

Looks good.

[real sigil]

Thanks my dude

[grave aurora]

yoooo, this is awesome
i discovered the world of custom wads not too long ago
i'm curious, where can i find the "best wads"?

is there a website?

[agile shoal]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109654-⬆️-doomworld-community-top-wads-of-all-time-resurrected/

[grave aurora]

that's awesome, thank you so much

[cursive moat]

Monkepro2000 / King Nick Presents....

HONK

A brand new doom mod that lets you Rip N' Tear.... as a GOOSE.

Coming out when I feel like it.

[haughty flower]

Is it almost done

[cursive moat]

yes

ill dm u a link of the demo

Quick demonstration video soon

here it is!!!

[haughty flower]

Is there a website or a place where I can commission with someone to create a Doom mod??

[runic breach]

you can ask around on community places and that's it

what do you need a commission for, sprites or scripting?

[haughty flower]

scripting

[runic breach]

is it hard for you to learn

[haughty flower]

Yes and no. Is there visual programming for Zscript by chance?

[runic breach]

nothing that i know of sadly

[haughty flower]

Darn. ok

[runic breach]

you mean visual like ue blueprints right

[haughty flower]

Yes

[runic breach]

i think transitioning from visual scripting to traditional isn't that hard

[haughty flower]

hmm ok

@runic breach Do you know if there's a simple way of turning DOOM player/enemy sprites into 3D Models?

Thats mostly I want to do. Is just replace the Doom sprites into models

[grand token]

Boom scripting is fairly visual, I'd say.

[stable swift]

Anyone know how to set thing visibility to sprite only in UDB without entering visual mode? My editor crashes otherwise

[runic breach]

wdym

a 3d model mod already exists

and a version made of voxels

[frosty walrus]

guys on the port for playstation (/xbox) what's the best available mods?

[frosty walrus]

anyone?

[solar brook]

There are no mods for consoles.

Only those curated ones available through the game itself

[frosty walrus]

yeah those are the ones i' talking about

which of em are the best?

[frosty walrus]

or anyones personal favourites

i played a bit of the medieval one, rekked

and deathlesswas great so far

[lusty dove]

if you like difficulty, the plutonia experiment is a good one

its probably the if not one of the hardest of the curated wads

but its really fun

[misty scaffold]

what version is myhouse.wad made for?

[haughty flower]

doom2.wad

[misty scaffold]

also how do I install mods for it? new to the game

[haughty flower]

many wads come with a text file like this with info like that

[haughty flower]

Have you installed GZDoom already?

[misty scaffold]

Nope, idk what that is. Is it like Curseforge for Doom?

[haughty flower]

It's basically a whole new engine for the game.

grab the GZDoom version for your OS here, install it, place your doom2.wad in the folder its installed in, then the easiest way to run the mod is to drag and drop myhouse.pk3 on the gzdoom executable
https://zdoom.org/downloads

[lusty dove]

it was made for gzdoom which is a heavily modified version of the engine

the doom engine has been modified into many different versions which range from replicating the originals behavior perfectly to being completely different (like gzdoom)

gzdoom adds many new modding features but at the cost of the original games behavior

there are other modified engine versions like crispy doom or dsda-doom that let you play some maps and mods while being perfectly compatible with the original

but myhouse has to use gzdoom

[misty scaffold]

so I put doom2 out of the folder on steam and put it in GZDoom's folder?

[lusty dove]

yeah you take doom2.wad out of the steam folder and put it into the gzdoom folder

[haughty flower]

Go to your Doom 2 install folder, then "base," there's a file in there called "DOOM2.wad"

[lusty dove]

doom2.wad is the file that has all of the games assets in it

[misty scaffold]

aight thx guys

[haughty flower]

speaking of myhouse tho, is there a way to get past the ||area with the dog without a blue keycard or do I need to restart?||

[brittle jewel]

geez how small do you wanna make your HUD

[raven patio]

yall arent really taking how mysterious myhouse is

like bro in "doom physics" and "gzdoom's physics" apparently something doesnt apply to those physics

and also something in myhouse doesnt apply to the physics of reality.

[haughty flower]

I do wonder how the dev managed to stack floors

They seemingly aren't actually physically on top of each other, since doors seem to stop when you aren't on the same floor as them

[grand token]

Silent teleporters that connect otherwise detached rooms.

It's an old trick but well pulled off.

[teal wyvern]

I did that in my map, it's not that hard to do actually

[brittle jewel]

Is there any way to play any mods on the Bethesda version of the games on steam? Cause there you only have a handfull of addons that are not really the ones I'm looking for. I'm super new to nodding in doom so help me out of possible.

*modding not nodding

[gilded matrix]

does anybody knows how to install brutal DOOM 64 on the epic games launcher? please i need help

[runic breach]

lmao

do you know how to use gzdoom

[gilded matrix]

what is GZdoom?

[runic breach]

mfw

@gilded matrix https://youtu.be/34HfmGvUJIM

[gilded matrix]

what?

[gilded matrix]

ok thank you

[runic breach]

this was a google search away

[gilded matrix]

ok you don't have to remind me how stupid i am

[gilded matrix]

so now i can know how to play the H

DOOM

hey dude but with GZdoom i can mod DOOM 64 on epic games?

[lusty dove]

Gzdoom is only for doom 1 and 2, not doom 64 because it uses a different engine

[gilded matrix]

well shit then how does it exist brutal DOOM 64?

[vale oak]

this is only my first so its gonna be kinda bad. hope yall enjoy it

[lusty dove]

It’s a mod for doom 2 that turns it into doom 64

[brittle jewel]

why did I only now learn of myhouse

I played it and it was legendary

I even got the true ending as its called so the real beach ending

super fun

[gilded matrix]

ooooooooh ok

[brave hemlock]

ive never played myhouse and i probably never will

[mellow violet]

oh no

[gilded matrix]

Guys i learned how to use GZdoom

And i played brutal doom

But somebody knows how to do the glory kills

[gilded matrix]

I was playing brutal doom and my marines got killed

[feral juniper]

If u like read and u love myhouse so read House Of Leaves by Danielewski

Myhouse is just a ctrl c ctrl v of house of leaves

[brittle jewel]

Ik house of leaves tho I never read it but myhous wis just inspired by house of leaves not a ctrl c ctrl v I think

[gilded matrix]

me and the bois
me and the bois on our way to beat the shit out of the icon of sin

[runic breach]

beat him on ur own smh

[formal latch]

[brave hemlock]

it's way more fun with the gang

[runic breach]

those r npcs

[gilded matrix]

No they are the bois

[runic breach]

oh yeah what source port

[gilded matrix]

WTF is source port?
I speak taco not to much school shoting

[runic breach]

yeah no those r the bd npcs

also wtfdym school shooting ☠️

[tidal steppe]

Man im ded

[gilded matrix]

Damn bro you are ded 💀

[tidal steppe]

Yea💀

[gilded matrix]

Didn’t pick up the megasphere💀 💀

[tidal steppe]

[real sigil]

Someone lobotomize me for building these (props for my little sister’s room)

[grand token]

Did you make that makeup box out of sectors?

If so, that's quite well done.

[real sigil]

Yeah. It’s quite easy. Just a bunch of circles. I’d say the most complex things I’ve make were my bunk bed and grand piano

[haughty flower]

there was supposed to be a phase of how much health the hellsmith has, where fireballs were supposed to rain down inside the boss room

[runic breach]

hellsmith?

[restive hornet]

Is that Moshi monsters

[real sigil]

On the laptop? That’s Animal Jam, namely the old screen back when they were still affiliated with National Geographic kids

[haughty flower]

yeah, the giant black minotaur with the 2 hammers

[cinder harness]

Currently making a sequel to tnt Evilution

[shell sentinel]

get berserk, press r to switch to the execution (?) mode and uhh melee an enemy i guess

[gilded matrix]

thank but i already discovered how but again thank you

[shell sentinel]

sorry then

[winter thorn]

wait you can do animated endDOOMS?

[digital trout]

MyHouse.wad

😶

[umbral skiff]

A quick Map21 replacer I whipped up, that started life as a speedmap, but thanks to a few crashes and setbacks, that got thrown out, in favor of me just finishing it up, as to not waste the idea.

A tiny bit more puzzle-y than my usual fare, but I'm hoping that the visual cues I give are enough to not leave players lost.

Tested with GZDoom 4.8.2, so I'd recommend using that, or higher.

Run with DOOM2.wad, obvs

(immediate reupload cuz the vega bot doesn't like m*diafire links for some reason)

[lean palm]

berserk

[hardy scroll]

Yo how do you get doom mods for Xbox tho(not the in game featured mods)

[royal wave]

You don't

Mods for classic Doom are a PC only thing

[wind patio]

Tho even a potato laptop can run classic doom

So if you wanna mod it just get like any laptop/pc

[royal wave]

Good video here on how to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34HfmGvUJIM

[karmic egret]

is it possible to run ultimate doom builder on mac?

[teal wyvern]

@royal wave here's the wad, use doom 2

[royal wave]

I think I already played that

[teal wyvern]

i don't think you played the final version of it

i built up a lot more on that map and submitted it to a competition

recently i've been trying to come up with ideas for a new map but no luck

[wheat wadi]

Hello. I need assistance understanding how to use textures in ultimate doom builder. I have very basic experience with making maps using doom2.wad, but now i'd like to use other textures like in the texture packs from doom world or like the textures of Heretic and Hexen. So : I open doom builder, and add doom2.wad as a ressource as usual, and then, Textures pack on doom world are .wad format, so I try to add the second wad as ressource also. But then I have conflicting ressource, like the texture are mixed, or, with a texture wad that works (meaning i can see the texture in doom builder and add them to walls and flats in the editor), but it doesn't works when i try to run the map in gzdoom (it just put a default blue "missing texture" instead). I've seen tutorials where they use Slade to add textures to a wad, but, does it mean that whith a texture pack from doom wolrd i have to add manually all the 500-ish texures one by one ? An even then I don't get it : do I have to add the texture with Slade to the doom2.wad ? to a special .wad ? or to the .wad of my own map i saved with the editor ? I know this is probably very noob questions, but I searched a lot of tutorial and didn't found an answer I can undertand (maybe I cant't get it because english is not my first language, I'm sorry for the bother). Thank you by advance for your help.

[trail lion]

https://youtu.be/-1eqVTcNDvU

[real sigil]

I still have to add the wire-connector-thingys between the pedals. I could just go with the notion “they’re out away in a drawer somewhere” but my perfectionist self would go AAAAHH but accuracy

[cinder harness]

https://youtu.be/huYF2KiilV4?si=7omcbrj9m_n08orY

[brave hemlock]

dang the most impressive thing ive ever done with sectors was a coffee cup

[real sigil]

This was easy. It’s just a matter of if you’re willing to do all the tedious work

I still uphold my grand piano and art drafting table (cause of all the weird slope manipulation, finding cheats to force degrees I wanted) as my best ones

I don’t think I’ll impress myself again until finally touch scripts lol. But this wad is taking months so in a few weeks

[frigid bridge]

When you test your map, are you using the test map button in ultimate doom builder or are you just running the wad file in gzdoom?

If your just running it I think you need to run the texture wad along with it. Or I think you can merge the two wad files together using wadmerge if you don't want to do that.

[royal wave]

I am approaching what I am feeling comfortable enough to call version 1.0 of GZChaos. Would anyone like to playtest my mod? Requires GZDoom 4.10

[idle flax]

anyoneknow how to align the highlighted texture without affecting the top one 😁

[whole blade]

i'm guessing you're in boom or vanilla in which case you need to lower and upper unpeg the texture above/below the window

[idle flax]

thank you now it only looks bad because of texture choice 😁😁

[whole blade]

i'm assuming you mean a multiplayer server in which case you want to use TSPG

https://allfearthesentinel.com/

[royal wave]

Trailer time

[lusty dove]

Oh god what is this

[jolly cargo]

True depression

[royal wave]

Suffering

[royal wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcSJdVDNLZk

[crimson rose]

Is there a mod that adds the original pc music to doom psx? or sounds?

I picked up a ps2 today and was wondering

[real sigil]

Update (the tuner’s light flickers but I’m not sending a short video this time because it destroys the resolution)

Why do I even bother with details people will look at in game for 5 seconds 😂

[crimson rose]

Its a fat ps2 ready for modding

[real sigil]

Warcrimes against doom

(My sister’s room is done for now, but I have to do the closet. It will have a dollhouse made of 3d floors, but I’m not sure what else to do. I want to model some nerf guns, but that would change the purpose of the closet from my sister’s to ours (cause she doesn’t like guns). I’ll have to mull that over.)

[teal wyvern]

i should learn how to make actual mods instead of just maps

[royal wave]

https://youtu.be/T2etRzEerA8?t=411

[cinder harness]

Currently making a fix for a bunch of “bad” tnt levels

[bold breach]

does anyone know how to fix this?

im on doom builder x btw

[bold breach]

nvm i got it

[whole blade]

doors raise to 4 map units below the lowest surrounding sector

i'm guessing those pillars either side of the door are sectors, not one sided lines

[twin rover]

I'm looking for some resources to make a historically themed Doom mod—textures, sounds, enemy sprites, whatever. Currently, I'm especially looking for right handed/angled sprites for weapons

Western-themed weapons and such

[teal wyvern]

have you browsed through realm667?

[twin rover]

not yet

[teal wyvern]

do look in there, there's a good chance you'll find almost everything you need there :)

[twin rover]

definitely seems useful for placeholder stuff

[runic breach]

woah

[ancient mason]

How do you make map

[runic breach]

just go to google

please

[lusty dove]

Look up a tutorial for ultimate doom builder

[ancient mason]

O k

[dawn moat]

Any recommendations for maps that work well with Brutal Doom?

[runic breach]

maps of chaos

[trail lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys17EBXIV0o

[real sigil]

Sorry guys girlies your doom

Finished the final edition to my sister’s room (the attic closet). This took eight hours…

[whole blade]

ok that's really cool

[grand token]

Good work!

[runic breach]

WOAHHHH

[real sigil]

Thanks guys! It was almost worth the eight hours of perpetual screen staring LOL

[thin swallow]

Can anyone help me with installing classic doom mods? I can't seem to get them to work

[runic breach]

https://youtu.be/34HfmGvUJIM

[thin swallow]

I’ve already seen it. Tried everything but still couldn’t get them to work

[runic breach]

<@&162901871168585728>

[leaden juniper]

nazi engineers are goofy as hell

like imagine playing tic tac toe on the blueprint and your commanders are like

"absolutely brilliant"

[thin swallow]

can anyone help me install Brutal Doom? I really have no idea why I can't it to work

[royal wave]

Drag and drop it onto gzdoom.exe

[thin swallow]

i have

multiple times it just opens regular doom

[royal wave]

did you extract it

[thin swallow]

yes, using 7-zip

[royal wave]

To be clear: You're dragging the .pk3 onto the gzdoom.exe?

[thin swallow]

correct

well actually brutal doom doesn't have the .pk3 at the end of it for some reason

[royal wave]

you have file extensions turned off

[thin swallow]

it shouldn't look like this right?

[thin swallow]

how do i fix that ?

[royal wave]

under show/hide

[royal wave]

this saying it's a .rar file tells me you didn't extract it out

[thin swallow]

that's weird because I did the first time and it won't give me the option to

everytime i tried to download it it always has the gzdoom icon and its always a .rar

[royal wave]

the extracted file should be 82mb

Doom mods are never .rar files. They are either .wad, .pk3, and sometimes rarely .pk7

[thin swallow]

this is how it looks like when i download it, I'm not sure on how to extract it

[royal wave]

Open it up with 7zip

[thin swallow]

I see, ok good to know. I'm still kinda new to this

[royal wave]

Inside you will find brutalv21.pk3. Click and drag that onto wherever, wait for it to extract, then drag that file onto gzdoom.exe

[leaden juniper]

speaking of bd

[thin swallow]

the window just closes when i try to open it with 7-zip

[leaden juniper]

am i the only one who thinks it's kinda feature creep?

i'd prefer beautiful doom which is very similiar

[royal wave]

Nashgore is all I need

[thin swallow]

Okay i got the mod working, thanks a lot @royal wave!!

One more question does brutal doom work on Ultimate doom?

[royal wave]

Works on all main IWADS

[thin swallow]

alright perfect, again thanks a ton!

actually another question lol, is it possible to run brutal doom through my steam version?

[leaden juniper]

no

use gzdoom

[thin swallow]

Can I not get gzdoom running on the steam version?

[vernal wasp]

So having to do with mk1, apparently kuai liang is scorpion, and hanzo hasashi is takeda

[thin swallow]

Kuai is scorpion yes, confirmed in the story mode a few times

takeda, however, is likely not Hanzo due to what datamines show.

[lusty dove]

gzdoom is not a mod for the game, it is a rewritten version of the original engine, its basically a completely new game that just loads all of the same levels

[runic breach]

bd is pretty damn light compared 2 other mods when it comes to feature creep lmao

[runic breach]

gzdoom is not a program that adds mods to your doom game like fabric for minecraft

gzdoom is an entirely new engine that just takes resources (levels and graphics) from your doom game

they opened the doom engine source code to the public in 1997 but kept the game paid by copyrighting the levels and graphics so users would still have to buy the game instead of just compiling the source code to play for free

gzdoom is just the engine after 25 years of modification, giving it as much capabilities as a full-fledged general-purpose game engine so the sky's the limit with modding

[thin swallow]

Alright I see

Thanks

[leaden juniper]

also i wouldn't recommend brutal doom for a first timer

may get a lil confusing, start with vanilla or beautiful doom

[thin swallow]

Really? I played it yesterday and thought it was super fun

I already played vanilla ages ago

[leaden juniper]

may just be perspective then

it's fun but i thought it'd be a little confusing with the tons of difficulties weapons etc

[thin swallow]

Nah I enjoyed it a ton

Myhouse is next

[leaden juniper]

my house requires a lot of hours but into it

and also you can check out the creator's doomworld page for more lore to understanding the story

[thin swallow]

Yea I’ve heard, I haven’t watched a lot of the videos though since I wanted to play it myself

[thin swallow]

That part I’ve seen

[leaden juniper]

thankfully it's not one timer

you return to myhouse after level 2 is finished in an endless loop

[thin swallow]

Like the underhalls? After I beat the map?

[leaden juniper]

yeah

[runic breach]

bd isn't confusing at all and is a great entry mod (fully serious)

what doom mods have you played

[leaden juniper]

not much

[leaden juniper]

does syringe have a story?

[ornate wraith]

What format to you recommend if you want to use GZDoom? (UDB)

[lusty dove]

do you care if the map is only compatible with gzdoom? or do you want people to be able to play it in other things

[bold breach]

submarine

[grand token]

Nice! Is it static decoration or does it do something?

[bold breach]

Just static

An actual submarine sounds like a nightmare… and I kinda just started mapping.

[grand token]

It doesn't need to have an interior. You can do fun things like pressing a button that blows up barrels and makes the sub lower as if it's sunk, for example.

[haughty flower]

My friend and I are working on an original TC Doom Wad

[lilac gale]

Noice

[haughty flower]

It's something like this

[bold breach]

its supposed to be a submarine hangar so i was trying to go for a water grate kinda texture

these are mostly just placeholder though

[leaden juniper]

i want to rescale levels to be half their size. how can i do it?

[teal wyvern]

on the bottom right there's a thingy that says "64mp", that's the size of the grid, making it smaller will allow you to make better fine details or smaller things that aren't 64x64

[whole blade]

select everything you want to change
press 'e' (edit mode)
enter 50% into the vertical and horizontal scale values on the docker (triple arrows on the top right)

or you can click and drag the bounding box after entering edit mode

[bold breach]

does anyone know how to make invisible walls in UDB? the only tutorial i can find is very outdated.

[bold breach]

no

like windows

alright...

alright

i'll try it

[teal wyvern]

Make a line and set the middle texture to a shawn2 texture, then set opacity to 50% and make the impassable

[whole blade]

That only works for ports that support opaque textures

[leaden juniper]

would this affect entity sizes too?

[whole blade]

No

Just map geometry

[leaden juniper]

cool

[whole blade]

Udmf supports sprite scaling but only if you directly edit the placed actor

[leaden juniper]

i have an old mod that's broken and has double the size on maps

[whole blade]

You'll have to realign all of your textures

And it won't change sector heights

[teal wyvern]

i assumed they were working with udmf since that's the common thing to use

[whole blade]

Prboom supports 50% transparency

[lusty dove]

I would recommend not making that assumption in general, many people also map for boom and vanilla

[royal wave]

Definitely important to understand that not all mods and techniques work on all source ports

[runic breach]

platform doesn't matter

[cloud tangle]

so, i remade map07, would i be allowed to post the .wad here? i checked the rules and nothing said anything otherwise

and i dont see any wads posted in the recent messages

[royal wave]

you are allowed to share wads here

[cloud tangle]

okay, thank you

of course, its map07, any feedback would be nice
accidentally kickass hard

made in slade
udmf
tested in gzdoom
made in chemistry class

[brave hemlock]

chemistry class is the prime spot for creating doom wads

[cloud tangle]

indeed

oh i also have this generic tekbase

made in slade
udmf
tested in gzdoom
made in health class (we were learning about eating disorders and i got bored, i already know all about those)

oh also all my maps are tested mainly in hurt me plenty and ultra violence. im too young to die and not too rough have very little changes

[cloud tangle]

i fixed a few things that i was dissatisfied with on it, probably not gonna change much after this

broken, working on a fix
i have no clue what i did
bruh i found it

[cloud tangle]

fixed

[royal wave]

lmao I used to do the same thing when I was in high school. Would download Doom Builder 2 and just scribble rooms together and working things out by hand

[cloud tangle]

im just too lazy to learn about oysters and would much rather make doom maps

[royal wave]

Try not to fail at the very least

[cloud tangle]

hah, i have an A in the class and have not done any work in class besides the tests 😌

agh i broke the final fight in my map again 😭

[royal wave]

you'll get the hang of it. Keep it up

[cloud tangle]

i know what i did

my map just has a lot of moving parts

oh. i just accidentally moved the enemies out of their little boxes

it should be completely working now, thankfully

kachow

currently sobbing

h

you should like play my map

[haughty flower]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/471981

[real sigil]

Phew, two down. Rest of the house should be easier except for ahh—the forest 💀 and our mess of logs and chainsaws

https://youtu.be/zp4G6fd3aJ0?si=1QqeyFL2FpDftZc6

Took almost a month 💀

I likely won’t make another video like this until I finish the entire house (including outside and secret areas). Then I enter the horrors of scripting and combat

[cloud tangle]

has anybody tried my map?
desperately need serotonin from someone trying it

[ornate wraith]

I would but I don't click on links on the internet without some background. sorry

[cloud tangle]

oh, thats respectable, what can i do to prove that its not malicious?

(i made it on a school computer and cannot use a screen recorder)
you could use wadext to extract the file

[bold breach]

cool name

[ornate wraith]

like a short video of you downloading the file from the discord and running it in doom

or i could just do it right now and look at it, is it for doom 2?

[cloud tangle]

yeah, doom 2, map07

[ornate wraith]

ight

[cloud tangle]

yep, UV and Hurt me Plenty were tested

[ornate wraith]

Ok i killed everything how to get out

[ornate wraith]

How do I exit the level?

I'm geussing I'm quite fucking stupid and can't figure it out

[cloud tangle]

kill the cyberdemon

hhhhh unless i mapped it wrong

its worked for me after rigorous testing

[runic breach]

just run it in a vm if ur paranoid lmao

also it's a wad 💀

[ornate wraith]

i didn't see a cyberdemon

[ornate wraith]

i couldn't see the .wad in the link and i ended up downloading it anyways

[runic breach]

how would they properly hide malware in a wad

[cloud tangle]

did you grab the latest one?

[ornate wraith]

i forgor, i think so, also loggin off in like a minutre

[cloud tangle]

ok

W on you for not letting some random guy restrict what you do because of a convo

cant talk today lmfao

[runic breach]

fair

[whole blade]

Even in the dark old days of Terry wad virus bombs, anything malicious was in a pk3 (which is functionally a zip file)

[bold breach]

My map concept art for sub.wad

[cloud tangle]

thats really cool. i just make geometry based of a vague idea i have in my head

linedef vomit, if you will

[bold breach]

does anyone know why my wall looks liek this and how to fix it

[cloud tangle]

no clue, but ill give you my two relatively uneducated ideas, its either a doom builder bug (i use slade) or maybe you have two linedefs on the same coordinates?

[bold breach]

imma try closing and reopening doom builder

[cloud tangle]

the classic turn it off and turn it back on again

[bold breach]

It didn’t work…

[cloud tangle]

i dunno man, does it look like that in-game?

it could just be a visual bug
though i am not an expert

[lusty dove]

if you send the map il take a look at it

but that effect that you are seeing is called z-clipping

[bold breach]

fixed it

[lusty dove]

it shows up in any 3d program when two surfaces are in the exact same position as eachother

[runic breach]

i've heard it more often referred to as z-fighting

[lusty dove]

Right that’s what I meant to say

What the fuck is z clipping

[rain snow]

Are there any wads that take place during the doom slayer’s time with the sentinels?

[leaden juniper]

doom zero

it doesn'T have sentinels but

i think it shows how he got trapped inside the sarcophagus

[hexed jungle]

I'll try them! When I get some time this weekend anyways lol

[muted stone]

This is my first ever Doom Map. I'd love to get some feedback on it (Made in Ult. Doom Builder in Doom Format)

[cloud tangle]

youll see i like ambushes :)

i dont think there is ever a traditional monster closet though

[fringe thorn]

Hello, anyone know if there is any program to port a Doom mod on ps1. Any resources at all?

[ornate wraith]

I think this may be what you're looking for but I'm not sure. I don't do anything with Doom modding, only mapping. https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/downloads/psx-doom-ce-205-full-version

[twilit sluice]

Guys

Which version of GZDoom is better to Play Project Brutallity 3?

The v4.11.0 or 4.5.0

[solar brook]

What makes you think there is a difference that affects gameplay?

[twilit sluice]

The game crashes while im playing

So idk if is something whit the version or my computer

[frank tree]

try a diff version

[twilit sluice]

I will

[hexed jungle]

I think this is a well made first map! I enjoyed the layout, texture alignment was good, it flowed pretty well, and the secrets were fun to find. I especially liked small details like the chipped walls in the darker area. Only out of place things I noticed were an imp on a crate that was kinda just chilling, and the texture in that one hallway leading to the hell knight felt like it was kinda tiling compared to everywhere else. I did get a little confused at times due to how similar areas looked texture wise while looking for the last secret, maybe it could use a little more texture variety with more colors to differentiate rooms at a glance. Overall pretty solid. I played it on PrBoom+.

[hexed jungle]

This was a fun dead simple remix, the start of it and the end with the archie were kinda butt clenching and ammo felt tight in a good way I think. I haven't looked for the secrets yet. It wouldn't run on PrBoom+ but I got it to work on GZDoom. Vry nice 👍

[bitter flame]

Does anyone know how I gather a team to work on a Doom 2 mod? Alot of things will not work correctly and with the size the project is planned to be it would take a very long time without a team to make something good quality.

[teal wyvern]

well i think the first thing you need is a small demo to show what the whole idea of the mod is

like an e3 presentation basically

[bitter flame]

How do I do that when only like 10% of the stuff I tried to make work actaully worked lol. There were 9 demons and 2 guns I was trying to import and only 4 demons worked lol. Plus where do I put the presentation thing to get people? The doom modding servers seem to be unorganized lol.

[teal wyvern]

well i think what you can do is work on your own for now on a nice sweet little demo map

then present it idk here i guess

or in doomworld

[bitter flame]

So like a small little video to show off the demons that were able to be imported correctly?

[teal wyvern]

you also definitely should ask questions about things that you don't understand how to do, people are definitely going to help you

[teal wyvern]

i'm not sure honestly, me personally i'd try to find some of the things that represent my mod the best, and then show that

[bitter flame]

Hmm

Should I make like a server for the mod for people to go to?

[teal wyvern]

probably not, at least not for now

[bitter flame]

👍

I will have to make a slideshow lol

my screen recorder hates gzdoom for some reason

[teal wyvern]

that's a pretty good idea

(also that's what i would've done lol)

[bitter flame]

Thanks. Here is the wierd slideshow that took more time than it should to make lol:

Hopefuly someone sees it

The server here hated links so its just a pdf

lol the slideshow took longer than it should have to make lol. I tried to get a good pic of the marauder but he just wanted to zoom at 999 mph lol

[cloud tangle]

thank you, i think its the map im proudest of, and i wanted it to kick peoples' asses on UV

and so i thought "what if, dead simple, but cyberdemon and archvile"

[hallow warren]

Shilling my ComProj here lolz
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/136660-wip-community-project-jaguar-doom-recreated-from-memory

[bold breach]

how do you add resources after creating a map?

[hexed jungle]

Tools>Game Configurations>Add Resource

[bold breach]

thanks

[wraith blaze]

hey guys

i have trouble downloading a doom 2 mod,which called the brutal doom ww2 weapon pack, does anyone know whats the problem?

heres the mod link: https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/brutal-doom-ww2-weapon-pack

[teal wyvern]

we can't help you if you don't say what the problem is

[bitter flame]

This is my first map. Can someone give me some feedback on how to make it better? Originaly I wanted to add doors and lifts but I could not figure out how to make those work so there are just barrel where doors should be.

Also it is for Doom 2

[bold breach]

having trouble figuring how to upload other peoples resources. specifically these bamboo textures by Elend. https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2064353

[tranquil spruce]

My DoomBuilder says some textures (startan1, ashwall) are in my doom.wad but my slade can't find them in there

[bold breach]

figured it out... but now i have another problem.

[teal wyvern]

add the resource to the map

you gotta do that when you open the wad in the mapping tool

[bold breach]

it was just the sprites and a script that i put into slade

there wasnt a wad file

[teal wyvern]

are you sure you're opening the same file in the editor?

[bold breach]

wdym?

[teal wyvern]

well if you added the content to the file you're storing your map in, it should work just fine

[bold breach]

ok...

i'll try that out

[teal wyvern]

Click that button that says "Add resource" and select the file where you stored those scripts and sprites

[bold breach]

okay

[teal wyvern]

i hope that works for you :)

[wraith blaze]

sorry for late response, the problem is everytime i drag and drop the mod with brutal doom, it shows fatal error idk why

[whole blade]

Are you trying to load more than one mod? Because if so then it's likely to be incompatible mods causing the issue

[bitter flame]

This is the pk3 that contains my first (and second incomplete map). Alot of the demons I have imported are not showing up in the slade map editor (only the marauder, wraith, chaingun pinky, and Baby Cacodemon) are showing up. Can anyone show me how to fix it so the rest of the demons (excluding the Blood Maykr and Zombie Commando that do not have zscript or decorate files) and the 2 guns show up in the map editor so I can use them? This is just the Pk3 because the credits are in a seperate file so please do not send this around until I put the credits and the pk3 in a zip once they are finished.

[stuck epoch]

i wont get banned if I ask for feed back on a map I made will I?

[hexed jungle]

I'll play the wad if you want

[stuck epoch]

its my first "real" map

thanks

[bitter flame]

I will try it out aswell

[stuck epoch]

thanks :)

[bitter flame]

No problem. Do you know if you could try out mine which is above? Just on the first map as the second is not finished yet.

[stuck epoch]

sure thing, ill do that after i finish walking my dog

[hexed jungle]

I tried their map, I'm checking your map out next

[bitter flame]

Thanks

[bitter flame]

Played good. Only gameplay issue was the lack of heals throught the map. I ended with 11% hp lol.

[bitter flame]

The second map is not done yet so while it is playable I have not balanced everything or textured everything quite yet.

[hexed jungle]

I second Necro, it plays well for a first map. Texture alignment and geometry in a couple places could use some work, but that's easy to clean up. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but the textures for the door tracks are unpegged.

[bitter flame]

How was it?

[hexed jungle]

Just got to the second map. It definitely doesn't need so many megaspheres and blue armors on the first map and could use more shotgun ammo. I didn't go in the cyber room because I'd get destroyed in the hallways if I tried. Texturework and alignment were fine, the best things I think you could do for the map are reduce the maze aspect of it, and add some doors locked by keycards and it would probably be pretty good. I liked all the custom monsters, though the marauder was a pain in the tight hallways. I think the second map has a pretty good start layout and you could definitely expand on that.

Small side note, there is probably a missing texture on one of the dead ends near the cyber room, I was getting the hall of mirrors effect.

[stuck epoch]

ok so in the future i should add more healing and align textures better, noted

ill play necros map now

[bitter flame]

Thanks. The issue with the doors was for some reason I just could not get any doors working in slade (hence the barrels). The marauder was supposed to be somewhat contained in the large room by the barrels (although that can be easily broken). The reason there were so many demons in the marauder room was because I intended for the player to grab teh BFG from the Caco room before going there. I will definintly add some more shotgun ammo. What do you mean by Hall of Mirrors effect?

Also what should I add to the second map?

[hexed jungle]

Hall of mirrors is that weird visual effect where frames repeat over and over, similar to how a windows screen would streak when the program stops responding

[stuck epoch]

just finished the first map, got telefragged by a shadow monster, and yeah it does have too many megashperes and blue armors, was fun though

[hexed jungle]

Also you're using slade to edit the map?

Well, not edit, but I mean build the map

[bitter flame]

Thanks.

[stuck epoch]

np

[bitter flame]

Yes

[hexed jungle]

Interesting, I didn't even know slade could do that. Then again, I haven't used slade because I don't need to edit anything like music yet.

I know in ultimate doom builder, you just draw what you want to be a door, then set an action special on the linedefs that the player will interact with

[stuck epoch]

how was the music choice in my map lol

[bitter flame]

I think I fixed the issue with the hallway. The dead ends were mainly there to store wraiths to jump the player. What should I change about the second map (besides the textures which I just fixed)?

[hexed jungle]

Oh I haven't gotten past the area with all the ammo and stuff yet, I closed the game so I could do my workout set

[bitter flame]

Okay.

[hexed jungle]

I laughed when I realized it was ghostbusters lol, at first I thought you just put in random sfx for the music

Was actully nice in midi form

[bitter flame]

I was trying to get the rest of the demons that are in the files into the maps but for some reason they do not appear in the list (although 2 do not have any code but the others should be). The 2 new guns (Bayonet rifle and Doom 2016 pistol) are also not working and I am not sure why.

[stuck epoch]

i just had on my computer and said "screw it itll be funny" guess i was right

[hexed jungle]

Unfortunately I can't answer that either, I've never done anything beyond working on my first map which is all vanilla

[bitter flame]

Thats okay

[hexed jungle]

It will probably be awhile before I ever mess with doing any kind of actual mod in fact, I'm mostly a vanilla gameplay andy

[bitter flame]

Okay. Also how is this now? I finished the second level and made the changes you suggested to the first (except the mega/soul spheres):

[hexed jungle]

So the first map plays a little better, it really just needs doors and some keycards in place of megaspheres to make some of the rooms more useful. Second map same thing with the doors. Second map could use more texture variation since it's all just green marble. If you go back to change the layouts anymore some height variation and changes to lighting would make it more pleasing visually.

Also fighting the marauders is a better experience in the second one naturally because of the open spaces

[bitter flame]

Thanks. I should add some more lighting and decoration to the second one. Not sure how to add the doors or change the height but if I ever figure it out I will likely change it. Also how terrible was the secret in the second level?

[hexed jungle]

I didn't really notice if there was a tell for it or not, but I found it on accident

I kept randomly taking damage at the start, I'm not sure if it was because of the monsters down the hall or not

[bitter flame]

Wierd. Maybe the stealth zombiemen shooting you?

[bitter flame]

Nice

How terrible was the BFG invincibility room?

[hexed jungle]

Once you add doors it would probably be best to do the slaughter room closer to wherever you want the end to be, and build up the intensity of the combat encounters on the way.

Also, it looks like slade works similar to UDB, so when you go into visual mode you just aim the cursor and the floor or ceiling you want to raise/lower and use (I'm assuming it's the same in slade) scroll wheel

[bitter flame]

Makes sense

[bitter flame]

wdm?

[hexed jungle]

https://youtu.be/B8Ktz11vXt0?si=2pF7Osm3gPmLdlxQ

This should help with some of the basics

[bitter flame]

I will check it out. Thanks

[lusty dove]

what are the benefits of mapping with slade instead of udb

[whole blade]

Slade works out of the box on Linux and Mac, udb does not

There's no other real reason to use slade for mapping other than personal preference

[lusty dove]

ahh i see

why is udb windows only, thats annoying

[whole blade]

Because that's what the udb devs have

You can get udb working on Linux through Wine

[bitter flame]

Its just what I could get working right

[cloud tangle]

(for me it didn't need admin privileges on my school laptop)

slade my beloved

[hexed jungle]

Hi filbert 👋, made any new maps lately?

[cloud tangle]

nah i lost my mouse and my mother is yet to order one

i also dont have many ideas besides generic tekbase

im a huge fan of maps changing as you pass through them, like e3m9 or map07

like monster closets, but cool

[hexed jungle]

You might like what I'm working on then

I try to make areas change a lot as the player goes through it and I like incorporating that concept into traps

I finished the first of four areas if you wanna try it out

[cloud tangle]

id love to, but no mouse, when its done, you could @ me and ill gladly play it then!

[hexed jungle]

Will do! It will be awhile before I get it done though, it's gonna be somewhat big lol

I'll probably need playtesters at some point tho

[cloud tangle]

i will happily playtest for you, if need be

[wraith blaze]

im only loading brutaldoom and that ww2 weapons pack

since it needs brutaldoom to load

but the thing is that the download file for the mod has a pk3.bak and sub addons, idk what they do or what is their use

[bitter flame]

I will whenever it is ready

[haughty flower]

hey, I hope someone can assist me with something I noticed while playing classic Doom 2 with mods on GZDoom, but now that I noticed it, it's driving me insane, because it happens even when I don't have any mods loaded.
My shots will come out at a lower point than the crosshairs on the center of the screen are indicating. Here's a screenshot of map 1 of doom2 with no mods loaded, all of these shots were fired at the exact same aim height, just moving sideways.

also happens on Zandronum, but not on other, more vanilla-compliant source ports. (Crispy, DSDA or Retro)

I wonder if it's some weird quirk of the autoaim settings on ZDoom

the fact that mods like Brutal Doom and Project Brutality do not show this quirk probably means that mods made to be played with mouselook on (and have different monsters locational hitboxes) fixed this internally

[cloud tangle]

ive noticed this before, i just turn off my crosshair

[hexed jungle]

I messed with all the auto aim options and it didn't change anything.

It seems to me that the crosshair just isn't aligned with the actual point of impact

But idk, I'm just spitballing here

Actually, this might answer your question

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=262

[bitter flame]

I am having a ton of glitches and softlocks in TNT (and I have metadoom on aswell). Does anyone know if it is the TNT levels being glitchy or metadoom is effecting it somehow?

[haughty flower]

huh, thanks for that. this actually clarifies some mechanics of the engine itself. how Doom is suddenly more realistic in this regard than CoD
guess it's not something to fix then, I'll just have to get used to it like I did in tactical shooters.

[whole blade]

It'll be the mod you're using

TNT originally had a softlock on map 31 due to the yellow key not having the correct difficulty flags but that was fixed for the steam version

[bitter flame]

Wierd. I saw some missing textures on some levels and got softlocked with some keys (for some reason red door did not want to open from the one side I was stuck on)

[whole blade]

Yeah tnt works fine apart from that historic soft lock

I've never heard of metadoom so I'm not sure what it changes

[bitter flame]

Its a gameplay mod that adds stuff from all of the other doom games and messes with monster spawns (along with adding more)

[whole blade]

easy way to test

load the relevant map without the mod and see if it's still bugged

[bitter flame]

I will do that soon

[cloud tangle]

boys mouse arrives tommorow expect some pleasant doom maps

[cloud tangle]

i had an idea for this map
backtracking, but good

will i go into more detail? ha no

[wraith blaze]

nvm guys, i fixed it

i had to do it in order

[brave hemlock]

i miss mapping maybe ill make a wad soon

[cloud tangle]

i wanna make a deathmatch map
and also reimagine map18/the courtyard

[cloud tangle]

oh and if anybody has any map ideas/sketches, feel free to @/dm me

[near cave]

https://youtu.be/WjacPKWOjVQ

[cloud tangle]

a map01, didnt really think about progression with this one, it's got a neat secret im proud of

[cloud tangle]

also yes i now have a mouse and i would like to test it

[hexed jungle]

Awesome, when I get some time today I'll post it

[cloud tangle]

alrighty

[hexed jungle]

Also a cool idea for map 18 is expand the first area with the toxic sludge to where you have to open up the marble area to get to the courtyard. Then each time you go through a sub area to get a key, the courtyard fills up with monsters kinda like that one area of plutonia map32.

[left lagoon]

Yo tell how to pro me nub

[cloud tangle]

i kinda had the idea to focus on that central courtyard with monsters teleporting in, like uhh map29(?) of ancient aliens

[hexed jungle]

I haven't played Ancient Aliens yet

[cloud tangle]

i just watched the decino video

[hexed jungle]

It's on my long long list of wads I wanna play lol

[cloud tangle]

i just make maps

its a great way to waste time in class

a few changes

i forgot to unpeg a door 😭

[haughty flower]

i made this for a mod im making

[hexed jungle]

@bitter flame @cloud tangle

Only works in GZDoom rn

Currently UV is implemented, lemme know how the ammo tightness feels. Also I recommend the software renderer, lighting looks kinda weird in hardware accelerated as well as the other settings.

[hexed jungle]

I'll check this out when I get home later

[bitter flame]

Will try

[bold breach]

anyone know how to fix this? it won't let me get rid of missing resources.

[whole blade]

all the information is in the error messages

looks like you've loaded the resources via the config set ups

F6

[bold breach]

it worked thanks

[whole blade]

np

[cloud tangle]

hardware accelerated on top 💪

[bitter flame]

Shit sorry I got a bit distracted. One of the sides of the blood hole (lol) in the first room is missing the teleport thingy. I feel like the first room needs more heals. Also in the begining room I feel like you should reduce the number of chaingun guys. Ammo wise I punched a hell knight to death. Also I kept finding energy ammo but no energy weapon. After getting the blue skull key the room opened up and I got killed by the hoards as I was at 3% hp. I would definintly add more heals and maybe some more ammo.