the-dark-ages

[rare thicket]

Sad its not client-server driven like old id tech

[fading bone]

i still cant get over the loading times

[rare thicket]

Yeah instant loads

[delicate sparrow]

On series S its instant too,black magic fr

[fading bone]

i dont even have an insane PC or anything and its basically instant

i am upgrading my PC very soon tho so i will finally be able to bask in the full glory of TDA for once instead of lowest settings w/ultra performance preset

[rare thicket]

tda?

[fading bone]

the dark ages

[rare thicket]

oh lol

[fading bone]

the game we are communicating about

[rare thicket]

I just got a new graphics card so i can play, and the game on Ultra is very nice.

I had a 1080 since 2018 and was missing out and many games

[fading bone]

oh nice. yeah i have a 2080 super rn and gonna be upgrading to a 5070ti soon

[rare thicket]

Feels nice to finally have some power

[fading bone]

cannot wait

[rare thicket]

Nice i got an AMD 9060 16gb they were much cheaper than RTX

[obsidian shard]

Only if the game has loading screens lol

[rare thicket]

Yeah no wonder I never seen this lol

[obsidian shard]

They do have loading screens but the loading times are stupid fast

[fading bone]

did you see that guy on reddit today complaining about the loading screens lol

[obsidian shard]

I did lol, was gonna say how Dark Ages doesn't need them due to the Quick loading times

[fading bone]

its insane to me how many completely unimportant things people will complain about in these games man lol

damn i love this game so much! the game play and the combat omg its so good but god if i cant get over those fucking LOADING SCREENS!!

come ON id what are we DOING

[rare thicket]

Its like CS, they will make a small update, and the community will complain they wrecked the networking lmao

"WE ONLY MOVED A BARREL"

As a developer you have to just take all comments with a grain of salt, because a lot of them arent even logical.

[stuck basalt]

mugo hartin

[fading bone]

yeah the majority of people actually just have no idea what theyre actually talking about

[stuck basalt]

i play doom

[obsidian shard]

"Theres a reason they are game devs and we aren't"

[stuck basalt]

nahh imagine trailer dlc on intro and instead hugo just trolls us and say they never started the dlc

[versed quarry]

"It's a good thing you guys aren't designing ultrakill or it would suck"

[hazy pasture]

-Hakita... back in some years idk

[versed quarry]

Yeah

[burnt summit]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xbox-game-xbox-series-x-s-RicXwlK8KYPf7hGgLU

[frail bloom]

Yo 44 to 110 gigs for baked lighting?

Thank god they went with raytracing

[obsidian shard]

There's also the 26-68 days to bake all the maps (with our any changes or Screw ups or shutdowns)

[frail bloom]

What are ppl saying now huh

Now that we know this info

No way someone would rather have baked lighting now

[obsidian shard]

We've known for like 8 months

[frail bloom]

But did we know it would add this much

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[frail bloom]

Well why am I seeing coverage of it now

Everyone is talking abt it

[obsidian shard]

Idk

[frail bloom]

Breh

[rare thicket]

It would be impossible to map. You would have to create a Pre-Bake simulation of the light if it took that long to see the outcome because if u need to move the Light entity a few units and have to do another vis and light bake youre screwed

[obsidian shard]

That's the other thing, If they make any changes they have to re-bake

[rare thicket]

Im assuming they have a scene graph like Godot or Unity where you can Live place objects and see it in game.
With raytracing, no need to bake anything and you can see all changes and lights in real time

[final dune]

so this is why dark ages is raytraced? so they dont have to bake lighting for everything?

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[rare thicket]

Yes Real time lighting is the best advantage and has been a long challenge in game dev

[obsidian shard]

Yes, as well as Advanced Hit Detection

[rare thicket]

Real time lights usually cost a lot and can only have like 4 or so , without a complex system.
So they fake it and Bake light textures where the dark shadows would be

[final dune]

buuuttt all other games bake their lighting?

[rare thicket]

Old ones. However newer ones before used a mix

[obsidian shard]

Dark ages Maps are 4-10x bigger then Eternals

[final dune]

oh zamn

[obsidian shard]

They are Huge

[final dune]

as in texture maps or the levels?

[rare thicket]

They would combine baked static light textures, and real lights.
However you can use shaders to Add light to lightmaps to make them dynamic.

You would just make the dark parts white.
it is how half lifes flash light worked.

There wasnt any real lighting, it was all shaders affecting the Light Map textures. Simulating real time lights.

But baking maps and their light textures ontop of the geometry can take a long time, especially openworlds like dark ages

[obsidian shard]

All the Vistas are also fully modeled

[obsidian shard]

Like physical map size

[final dune]

why does the cosmic baron have a butthole lmao

kinda funny

[rare thicket]

A lot of other neat things become possible as well with this.
Like real mirrors in games for once 🙂

[final dune]

i remember in 2016 the mirrors were just kinda shiny things

[rare thicket]

If the game isnt raytraced its using some kind of "hack" or projection method of the view.
Or just uses Textures that dont even match what is behind you correctly. See Spiderman PS4 vs Spiderman 2 PS5

[solar cairn]

Stream today?

[errant osprey]

@worldly musk yes

[solar cairn]

[errant osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

[graceful rivet]

Tonight is the stream

If we get any DLC info

The dark ages Mancubus will be drawn

As per contract

[grim cloud]

streamie mcstreamieface

[errant osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-looking-down-pan-up-gif-2137303548561454911

[obsidian shard]

Will be peak

[fading osprey]

What about a dread knight? :D

[fleet spruce]

dread knight looks like a Bionicle lmao

[grim cloud]

showcase in 1 month, getting closer to a potential dlc trailer

[random sand]

maybe that's why he's so awesome

[fleet spruce]

I like the design myself honestly , it even got blades that remind me of those used in early Hero Factory sets

[random sand]

Dread Knight probably got my fav design for a basic demon (except Marauder if we count him)

he looks awesome

[graceful rivet]

Oh yeah dreadknight is top 10, no, 5

Bro gets drugged up every time he kills someone

[fading osprey]

Who’s number one?

[knotty crane]

Probably Revenant

[fading osprey]

Based

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1399628765826519092/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[fading osprey]

Also based

[obsidian shard]

What's your favourite?

[fading osprey]

In general?

[errant osprey]

Cyberdemon Doom dark ages

[fading osprey]

Or just TDA

[obsidian shard]

In general and TDA

[fading osprey]

General: Eternal Dread Knight
TDA: Agaddon Hunter

[frosty roost]

helloooooo haven't been chatting here in a while

there's a stream tonight right?

[warm ibex]

yeah, in 18 minutes

[frosty roost]

oh nice, hello horde

[warm ibex]

hey man

[fading osprey]

Hi horde! I’ve actually seen a bit of ur vids btw, and they’re pretty good!

[last geyser]

Battleknight design is underrated

And the armored titan

[warm ibex]

Thank you!

[fading osprey]

You’re welcome!

[warm ibex]

really cool design

I'm liking the theme of upgraded hellknight counterparts but I'd honestly prefer to have a stronger regular knight in the next game lol

[stone pasture]

Stream, do you think we will get more news or not

[warm ibex]

Most of the time we get some sort of dlc hint from Hugo

just don't expect anything bigger than that lol

[elder raven]

Today.

[solid nacelle]

Replaying some campaign levels after some time and I'm just now remembering that metal shield guys fire wall projectiles at you. I don't think I've ever seen them do it in the ripatorium though which is kinda strange to me

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-dare-i-do-i-dare-should-i-michael-the-office-gif-21612500

[obsidian shard]

There are still Cinematics

Bigger mix between Cinematics and First person cutscenes

[solid nacelle]

They're beefing up the gore a little bit apparently

[obsidian shard]

and buffing the flail

[solar spoke]

I saddened a little when he said nerf at first

Housemaid/TDA DLC collab confirmed

[frosty roost]

wait so what's happening? @obsidian shard

[unkempt dragon]

lol everyone asking sneakyjay

[frosty roost]

also hiiii LM

[unkempt dragon]

just watch the stream

[warm ibex]

all dlc stream reveals will be posted when the stream is over 👍

[unkempt dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/6xTEDPG5Do8?si=l2_4QQrO6rQxH9w7

[harsh egret]

much needed flail buff

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

[obsidian shard]

Help me bruh

[frosty roost]

@unkempt dragon I've been lurking slightly in the stream, kinda been straying away from doom because of irl stuff so I'm getting back in it (currently watching on twitch)

[warm ibex]

Stream notes so far:

They’ve entered a new phase of playtesting, trying to balance out the difficulty and player abilities. Avoiding things that are “hard for the sake of hard”. They’re implementing the codex at the moment and polishing the new bits, making sure the VFX and SFX feel punchy. More first person storytelling, and they’re working on the transitions between gameplay and cinematics.

They’ve updated threat detection for the DLC, improvement over the base campaign.

Beefing up gore a bit here and there, making it feel even better than it already does. Will apply to the base game as well.

A general Flail buff is coming, also coming to the standard campaign.

[elder raven]

its soon…

[unkempt dragon]

the big thing got unpinned, link it to me again btw

[frosty roost]

thank fuck for the flail buff, that thing needed it

[grim cloud]

go to the channel, i get a ad for cast iron

[errant osprey]

Awesome

[obsidian shard]

I'll send it Post-stream! (same with the Google doc link)

[harsh egret]

probably better to just link the google doc

pin* i mean

[unkempt dragon]

don't need the google doc link, just the other stuff

I'm not pinning a google doc, sorry

[obsidian shard]

alr alr

[unkempt dragon]

ty

[obsidian shard]

Soundtrack is also sounding good!

[warm ibex]

fork found in kitchen!

we knew it would be peak

[elder raven]

i just need classic callbacks please sir

[solar cairn]

Finally, there will be a buff for the flail

[solar cairn]

In general, it sounds like they need another 2-3 months and there will be a release

[warm ibex]

man you could not possibly gather that time frame from just that message 😭

[solar cairn]

[graceful rivet]

im doing other stuff rn so i can't watch but if any big info comes out let me know

[versed quarry]

The secret technique to finding all this information is called “making shit up”

[last geyser]

Soundtrack amazing

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[unkempt dragon]

🤕 I have a headache already

[harsh egret]

[graceful rivet]

the LM suffering has begun

[solar spoke]

on a game-related note, has anyone noticed the travel ring sound effect in City of Ry'uul is still missing?

[solid nacelle]

Yup

[ebon lynx]

yeah I hope they fix that eventually

[worthy sigil]

They should buff the armor drop from the combat shotgun upgrades they feel somewhat underwhelming or was the combat shotgun just destined to be average?

[last geyser]

@ thedinosaurheretic you made it

[solid nacelle]

Hugo on whether the dark ages dlc is longer than tag 1 and 2 combined: "it's hard to say"

[warm ibex]

they have something good for the dlc hint reveal at the end of the stream tonight...

[last geyser]

No quickswitching but there will be another form of quickswitching

[worldly musk]

ITS GONNS BE MASSIVE

[solid nacelle]

Like he had to give it consideration and think about it for a second

[last geyser]

Did hugo ever say what the kreed worms were

[supple oracle]

It jover no quickswitching anymore 🥲

[stuck basalt]

I am on the road listening to this

5 hours

[errant osprey]

So, about 6 hours??
I don't think so.

[solar spoke]

Purple goo merch inbound

[stuck basalt]

purple goo all over me

nevermind

[solar spoke]

Phrasing

[graceful rivet]

purple goo drink

[solar spoke]

Oh... what would that even taste like?

[graceful rivet]

purple

[solid nacelle]

Grimace shake

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-reynolds-blue-anti-oxygens-oxygen-iasip-gif-8994007861567804109

[graceful rivet]

me after consuming the purple goo

[warm ibex]

GOOD

[solar spoke]

Purple has a rich combination of iron and antioxidants

[supple oracle]

😭

[solar spoke]

seconded

[elder raven]

saleem

[supple oracle]

yo

[elder raven]

whats up

[frosty roost]

"yet" hmmmmm

[solar spoke]

something to show for the DLC next week!

[solid nacelle]

Ok so the trailer is not coming on the anniversary

[warm ibex]

Slayers Club Live Chapter 27 Notes:

DLC Trailer and keyart reveal is NOT next week, but they ARE showing something special for the anniversaries!

They can’t reveal the DLC key art since it reveals way too much about the DLC!

They’ve entered a new phase of playtesting, trying to balance out the difficulty and player abilities. Avoiding things that are “hard for the sake of hard”.

They’re implementing the codex at the moment and polishing the new bits, making sure the VFX and SFX feel punchy.

More first person cutscenes, and they’re working on the transitions between gameplay and cinematics.

They’ve updated threat detection for the DLC, improvement over the base campaign.

Beefing up gore a bit here and there, making it feel even better than it already does. Will apply to the base game as well.

A general Flail buff is coming, also coming to the standard campaign.

They entertained the idea of weapon quickswapping but will NOT be doing it. The new form of quick switching in the DLC is related to something OTHER than guns.

They want to go back to rewarding the player for actually reading the codex.

@frosty roost

[frosty roost]

thank you horde! ❤️

[warm ibex]

no problem!

[frosty roost]

super stoked for next week!

[rare thicket]

where can i watch the stream

[obsidian shard]

Thanks goat, rewording it so its easier to read/adding to Google doc/Full list

[frosty roost]

twitch/youtube though they're just about to end

[warm ibex]

yeah no problem at all man! get that doc updated

[last geyser]

Cover art next week

[solar cairn]

Is it possible to change the runes quickly?

If you kill a demon, you can switch to the next rune and it will already be charged

Although, it’s too unbalanced

[warm ibex]

just confirmed it's not cover art

you guys are full of straight DOOKIE 😭

[last geyser]

Oh

[unkempt dragon]

lol

[scenic lichen]

stepping back on quick-swap or whatever sounds a bit weird but at the same time I’m intrigued, I trust it’s for the better

[split gate]

So the trailer is coming in two weeks rahh

[scenic lichen]

Also thanks a ton, you’re doing fantastic work for the community

[warm ibex]

not stepping back on quick swap

it's not related to guns

[scenic lichen]

Was it not for guns originally?

I’ve only seen stuff about that but I’ve not watched the streams myself

[warm ibex]

it was never confirmed what the quickswapping tied to, only that some form of it would exist

[scenic lichen]

Like a tool would allow you to quickswap but not directly

[solar cairn]

Why, Xbox presentation in a month

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-gif-12083706

[split gate]

I’m coping let me be 😭

[solar spoke]

Purple goo thermal paste

[spiral crow]

So are they gunna show another concept art because i failed to understand what josh said since it's about to be 2am here

[warm ibex]

they're showing something next week. not a trailer, not the key art. that's all we know

[solar cairn]

It’s not bad, Hugo gives more and more information, I hope that the trailer will be shown in June

[split gate]

I know lol

[spiral crow]

Probably SneakyJayCool cosplaying as the mancubi

[scenic lichen]

Thank you that makes sense

[warm ibex]

you're very welcome!

[winged pond]

if its a concept art I would want them to show a character design instead of an environment like last time

[spiral crow]

But dang if they are keeping spoilers tight with this DLC not even showing a keyart or anything, it makes me just....i guess more interested

[errant osprey]

Maybe they'll just reveal the name of the DLC.

[scenic lichen]

I’d be happy with that

[split gate]

Doom the Darker Ages

[scenic lichen]

I think by now they’d have a name settled

[solar spoke]

Medieval Arch-vile posing atop a pile of TDA enemy types

[scenic lichen]

At least

[spiral crow]

I mean if they reveal the name for the DLC, i'll be fine with that as well

[graceful rivet]

so uh

[harsh egret]

i feel like they cant show that either tbh, imo it's also probably another one of those things that they gotta save for a proper reveal like Hugo mentioned, same as trailers, key-art, etc

[graceful rivet]

do i still have to draw the mancubus @obsidian shard

[obsidian shard]

Upto you lol

[solar cairn]

Doom: Not Anymore Azhrak Ages

[burnt heart]

They are making a dlc for this game?

[obsidian shard]

Showing off the Archvile??

[graceful rivet]

Yeah. You'll get your mancubs

[obsidian shard]

a BIG One

[spiral crow]

Makes me wonder like is it that big of a spoiler to the point it ruins the mystery behind everything contained within the DLC if so, it makes me wonder what the piece of keyart actually looks like and the name for the DLC if it's that spoilery

[harsh egret]

maybe, maybe

[split gate]

Doom the Ahzrak dead as hell Ages

[harsh egret]

its simply part of their marketing roadmap and they arent tryina mess around with it

[obsidian shard]

ALL DLC Info is available here, I will send it as a big list in a min

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FdbLLjyz4xoto6AyutcgkoxggIWnbhW2Jnrf0f76OqE/edit?usp=sharing

[split gate]

The goat

[spiral crow]

Clearly it is extremely strict which i like that there hasn't been any leaks or anything about it because after what happened with the legend of Aang movie i do not want to ever see that with doom

[warm ibex]

they did specify that it's a "show don't tell" type thing

[spiral crow]

What could it be then is what i'm wondering....it's not a trailer, nor a keyart and a concept art....like anyone has any ideas?

Like i'm here scratching my head with what they will actually show

[harsh egret]

did they say its not a concept art?

[obsidian shard]

Ok umm I'm gonna send all DLC info in a minute

sooo uh here part 1/4 of all DLC info so far:

MUSIC & MISC:

• There will only be ONE DLC

• There will be more cosmetics in the future!

• Finishing Move will most likely be returning to compose the OST. (Not Yet Confirmed-However hints from Finishing Move point to them returning)

• The DLC is in its “Final Phases of polishing” Including a new phase of playtesting, trying to balance out the difficulty, player abilities and Avoiding things that are “hard for the sake of hard”.

• The DLC will release in 2026.

RIPATORIUM 3.0:

• Ripatorium 3.0 Will Launch Alongside the DLC
• Slots to save personal Encounters
• More Ripatorium maps
• Togglable Instant Respawns for Waves
• Easier way to share encounters

[spiral crow]

As far as i'm aware i don't think they said it's a concept art but i might be wrong since it's 2am 😭

[harsh egret]

i dont think they specifically said its not concept art is what i mean

they just said its not a trailer or key art

[spiral crow]

I'll agree with you since it's 2am here and i can't remember properly

[obsidian shard]

Frick

[harsh egret]

l m a o

[spiral crow]

Dang lol

[errant osprey]

I'm really confused
What are they really going to show?
We'll find out in a week.
But maybe the most likely thing is that they'll show Archville

[harsh egret]

cant u put the whole text in a smaller compressed text file thingy here or smth

[obsidian shard]

I'll do combat last since its THE BIGGESR

[obsidian shard]

good idea

[harsh egret]

not an actual text file but yeah

[spiral crow]

Poor Sneaky bro

[harsh egret]

i dont remember what its called

[errant osprey]

It's 4 am here.lol

[last geyser]

I hope the dlc has a new menu screen and music

[spiral crow]

I remember them doing that with tag back in eternal, would be cool if they did it again with dark ages with a new menu theme and background

[errant osprey]

So with this phrase, the possibility of showing a short teaser is also ruled out.

[burnt heart]

Do we know what the price of the DLC will be?

[harsh egret]

nope

[burnt heart]

Probably like 50 bucks lol

[spiral crow]

Did they deny if it was a teaser?

My memory is all over the place

[harsh egret]

they denied it being a trailer or concept art is what they said

[warm ibex]

I think you're misunderstanding something

[spiral crow]

I mean a teaser is also a form of a trailer so yeah, i understand

[solid nacelle]

What if they showed a new weapon

[harsh egret]

depends what u define as a teaser but yh

[spiral crow]

I mean take Tag 1's teaser that they showed off long ago as a example

[harsh egret]

a teaser trailer specifically they will not show, no

[errant osprey]

I understand that we won't see anything visually.
I mean, a trailer or a key art.

[warm ibex]

The digital premium upgrade is $35 separately and includes the DLC. I can't imagine they'll sell the DLC outside of the premium upgrade

[harsh egret]

you WILL see something visually

[warm ibex]

That is the opposite of what was said 😅

[harsh egret]

they will show something that can be visually observed with your eyes.

[spiral crow]

Alright, thanks, you're the absolute goat

[errant osprey]

I'm really confused
It's 4am here😅
I have to watch the live again tomorrow

[warm ibex]

They will be SHOWING something, not just TELLING something like they have been in prior streams. It will NOT be the DLC key art, and it will NOT be the full reveal trailer. That is all we know🙏

(that's not meant to be condescending, just trying to get it across clearly)

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/midnightgif300-gif-1342012341207187635

[errant osprey]

Now I understand
Thanks for your reply

So I'll wait for the next stream
I hope you guys have a good week

[harsh egret]

u2 man

[spiral crow]

Likewise man

[warm ibex]

absolutely man, you too

[spiral crow]

There better be a daisy easter egg in the keyart lol

[delicate sparrow]

Imagine they just show the first letter of the DLC name

[spiral crow]

Nah that'd be such a troll move

[timber cloak]

i'll do you one better, they reveal the first word, the word is "The"

[versed quarry]

“The Ancient Gods: Part Three”/J

[final dune]

PLEASE MORE COSMIC REALM HUGO

[final dune]

cosmic realm is literally my favorite location in doom

[split gate]

I got it guys, if it’s neither of these then they’re showing gameplay, my IQ is too high

[obsidian shard]

Maybe they are showing off something even Better...

THE DOOM TV SHOW

Big brian

(Typo is intended)

[graceful rivet]

big braen

[cobalt fog]

So what was announced in the show

Or live today

[obsidian shard]

#the-dark-ages message

[cobalt fog]

FLAIL BUFF

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[fading bone]

holy please make it just drop an obscene amount of armor

id actually consider using it then

[wintry forge]

Love the flail, but always felt like it needed a slight buff. Glad to hear it

[graceful rivet]

yes

i love how i get to swing it around

[fading bone]

needs more than a slight buff 💀

[fleet spruce]

Quickswitching something other than guns?

Melees?

now I'm even more curious about what they're cooking

the smell is coming from kitchen and I feel starvation setting in...

[wintry forge]

Shieldsaw/Spear

The core combat tool

Would love to see a mechanic where specific things will need Shieldsaw, while others will need the Spear/new weapon

[rare thicket]

After beating tda idk why people are hyping up eternal so much over it.

I think this was the best doom to date, very good.

[obsidian shard]

All about preference

[rare thicket]

Other than no multiplayer i think.
Yeah true true.

[pastel pebble]

What do you all think the reasonings are for the spear aside from being an awesome weapon?

I have a feeling it's probably related to the high council or maybe the cosmic realm

[placid bough]

A flail buff is much needed, the mace is godly but it takes forever to swing and for round 2 of waltz on ripatorium it screws you over if you’re not careful lol

[obsidian shard]

Tons of reasons
Ahzraks spear
Sentinel spear
Argent spear
Komodo Chain Spear

[wide siren]

man just has to have all the spears

[weak gust]

Being able to use Ahzrak's spear would be sick

But it'll prolly be the Sentinel spear

[fading bone]

i want to use something NEW that we havent seen before

[weak gust]

A Wraith themed spear or smth

A world spear if you will

[wide siren]

samuel hayden having a fit watching the slayer stubbornly trying to pick up the world spear

[weak gust]

"You can't just throw a spear through Argent D'Nur"

[rare thicket]

dark ages is old times and they used spears in olden days

my guess

[pastel pebble]

I didn't know that

[weak gust]

I wonder if we'll get any proper fetch quest for the spear, those levels are always awesome (The BFG levels, Taras Nabad, World Spear)

[rare thicket]

Imagine its robot fighting dlc

[weak gust]

When do you guys think is the next time TDA goes on sale, it has to be the anniversary right?

[sleek quail]

Quakecon my bet

[weak gust]

Not a bad time to buy a new game, I think I can wait for that

[obsidian shard]

Possibly next week and then Quakecon/Summer Sale (Speculation)

[unkempt dragon]

bold to assume next week

[obsidian shard]

True

[pliant coral]

Could be next month more likely or so

[obsidian shard]

Why next month?

[pliant coral]

A guess.

[last geyser]

Archvile and some bosses are probably gonna be projectile heavy and elusive the spear gives you extra mobility

And 300 reference

Because spartans used shields and spears

[unkempt dragon]

doubtful tbh

[pliant coral]

Doubtful to be doubtful.

[unkempt dragon]

I don't think anything will be going on sale until the DLC is released

[obsidian shard]

How ya doin LM?

[obsidian shard]

There's that too.

[unkempt dragon]

I'm alright, was a busy day with the stream and all. Wby

[obsidian shard]

Nice, Busy is Good.

Mine was busy too, Got another floor opening up so was dealing with that all day. Stream was fun, chatted with KRUGE and Dino and the rest of the Gang bought it

[unkempt dragon]

floor?

[obsidian shard]

Ya, we open up floors depending on how much occupancy we have so we can get more rooms and people moving in.

[unkempt dragon]

oh damn, sounds like heavy work! Productive day indeed

[pliant coral]

Most likely

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[weak gust]

Here 🫵

[fleet spruce]

in our hearts

[elder raven]

It’s home…

[empty comet]

it's eternal

[final dune]

Grand hilbert hotel moment

[chilly needle]

Ive been hearing about this sekiro game being compared to TDA. Is it worth trying from a doom type game lover?

[fading bone]

its not an FPS at all

its a souls like

[chilly needle]

Ive never played souls either

[fading bone]

its basically just if you like parrying

[chilly needle]

Is it like fallen order? That game was fire

[fading bone]

yeah but a harder version

[split gate]

It is an incredible game, one of my top 5s, highly recommend

[fading bone]

fallen order is on the easier side of souls likes

[chilly needle]

Ahhhh gotcha

[fading bone]

but yeah apparently a very good game

[chilly needle]

Heck ya I appreciate it fellas.

[chilly needle]

Dope ill have to give it a shot.

[split gate]

If you like games where pure skill and mastery of the mechanics is needed, it’s the one. Beating the bosses becomes cathartic knowing you understood what the game was teaching you

[chilly needle]

That's why I like doom. I feel like even nightmare becomes easy for the most part once you learn the mechanics and what the game is trying to teach you. Especially in eternal and TDA. Ill definitely give sekiro to try. Since I cant beat UN ever haha

[split gate]

Completing UN for Eternal and TAG were one of the best gaming achievements I’ve had but I understand people who choose not to, it takes a lot out of you. TDA was still tricky with the amount of levels it had.

[chilly needle]

Ive been trying for 6 years and i still cant beat eternal or TDA on UN. Even though I can beat master levels and horde mode no problem on Nightmare no problem.

[split gate]

It’s the nerves. They don’t exist in a normal Nightmare playthrough unfortunately 😅.

The only tip that I have is to have a clear strategy that 100% works for any arena you’re not confident in provided nothing goes wrong

[fading bone]

yeah its just pure repetition and nerve management

and honestly a little bit of luck. sometimes you just get really unlucky and lose out on runs and the one time you finally do it everything just happened to go your way

[obsidian shard]

Also don't be overly cocky. The game will punish you hard

[fading bone]

yeah being extremely safe and careful is what really helped me on my run as well

TDA especially with how much fodder there is. its totally fine to just wait it out and meticulously clear out all the fodder before diving in on the heavies/super heavies in certain arenas because the fodder are what will kill you more often than not

[chilly needle]

Ya I get super anxious and sweaty playing UN

[chilly needle]

I do get cocky once I get in the flow. And tunnel vision and complacent. I need to understand my flaws accept them and get better. Thanks guys!

[chilly needle]

Bro yes the fodder kills me its never a heavy its always an imp soldier or zombie

[fading bone]

something that helped me get it eventually as well was to record all my deaths and explain why it happened. helped me realize not only what i was doing that was causing me to die but also help me realize which levels and encounters were causing me to die the most and i could focus on them better

and it also helped me to actually pinpoint mistakes and places to improve instead of just dying and being like "ohh bullshit that dumb ass soldier fence"

[chilly needle]

Not a bad idea at all my dude!

[grim cloud]

i played one level at a time, and many times until I master it using same set of upgrades.

CB was my biggest leap, and the Gladiator. truth be told the gladiator behaved differently on its first attempt, so you had to reset the entire level to get the exact same experiance

Dark Ages UN, i just suck too much - so forget what i said because this is tda chat

[chilly needle]

Ive never not died vs the gladiator or icon of sin. I know if I get there they will be my biggest opstacles

[split gate]

Icon of Sin is the most nervewracking fight

[grim cloud]

for me also because it was the last thing to do

[final dune]

Me sitting at 5 health in the ahzrak and witch boss fight

[chilly needle]

For real man its chaos I love it

[chilly needle]

Man its so nerve racking being on the brink

Especially against enhanced azhrak

[delicate sparrow]

I wonder if asscrack is the first being using argent energy. Since the red lighting is kinda argent energy signature

[alpine pilot]

doom

[potent parcel]

the heart of argent lets him use wraith energy alongside his normal hell energy, and those were the two ingredients that made Argent Energy

so I guess, probably

maybe that's what makes him relevant to the larger timeline, if the Khan Maykr was somehow observing the Slayer's battle against Enhanced Azrahk and it gave her ideas

[weak gust]

True! I never thought about that

[stuck basalt]

asscrack

[warm ibex]

wonder if we'll see this guy in the dlc 🤔 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1502455785547104326/image.png?ex=69ffc67d&is=69fe74fd&hm=f31379dba1a40359e2364e36e41268ac566aa39fba3045177a259b73cd5b84c7

[fading osprey]

YES

also

You know the weapon that acts like the ballista that’s in the same classic doom thing as this guy

[versed quarry]

<@&162901871168585728>

[fading osprey]

what the fuck is this

[supple oracle]

Yes, it will, based in Saleem Research Department did this research while eating pringles and drinking sprite

if it was jalapeno pringles I will figure out the release date

[graceful rivet]

so is this guy an offical doom character orlike what? Is he from final doom

[elder raven]

Thank you Saleem Research Department! 500 Billion dollars to the laboratory!

[obsidian shard]

Its from Legacy of Rust

[graceful rivet]

Ah! Ok

also the mancubus has been started. It's gonna look so shit dawg

i wanna draw the "why is everysone so mean to me" with it too

[wintry forge]

Would love to see it🔥

[fading osprey]

uh…

[hearty edge]

the big SJ's hints are on the doom wiki https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1382136622761377813/1502464923937275946/image.png?ex=69ffcf00&is=69fe7d80&hm=2860774037c43e0f6d1dff23ede772a233a23b447ce7e6e321cb866100585425&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1615&height=800

[warm ibex]

calamity blade https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1502464995047243918/Legacy_of_rust_doom_wiki_screen_shot_8.png?ex=69ffcf11&is=69fe7d91&hm=3cf969877262ab633024342da923008b3ac85b92b2a3f6c269011245a353f7ee

[fading osprey]

ah thanks

[obsidian shard]

"Big SJ" 😭😭🥀🥀

I'm an Editor on The DOOM wiki so I added them (I believe it fits under Pre-release")

[fading osprey]

oh wow!

[graceful rivet]

oh no how am i gonna draw the shit on the back

oh wait hold on

ok it's not that bad

[obsidian shard]

You will cook dude

Trust the process and the rest will come naturally

[graceful rivet]

im trying

[hearty edge]

whar r u doing

[fading osprey]

Also
Don’t procrastinate

[graceful rivet]

drawing the dark ages mancubus for jay

[hearty edge]

cool

i was doing the let's larp pose but with the slayer

[fading osprey]

I believe in you, brother.
You shall cook with your art

[graceful rivet]

its not the full thing but its a headshot and im trying to make it look good

[harsh egret]

maybe they could pin the doom wiki page then

[fading osprey]

-# and if you can I would also like an eternal dread knight when you finish but idrc take your time :)

[hearty edge]

dread knight lowk more dangerous than the baron

[graceful rivet]

thats on my list. I love that mf

[fading osprey]

My favourite demon ever. No questions asked.

[hearty edge]

the cyberdemon will always be my favorite

[graceful rivet]

I love the Marauder. My number 1 dude.

The fact he pissed so many people off is funny to me

[fading osprey]

I also love the agaddons

[graceful rivet]

YES

[fading osprey]

-# haven’t played TDA yet but they badass fr

[graceful rivet]

like ok

my top 10

Marauder, Revenant (2016 and Dark Ages), Baron of Hell (2016), Hell Razer, Dread Knight, Whiplash, Imp (2016), Cyberdemon (OG, 3, 2016), Brusier, and Lost Soul (2016 and ETERNAL)

[hearty edge]

revenant lowk a bum in 2016 i liked him more in the og

and he's like borderline fodder in eternal

[graceful rivet]

yeah

also the design in eternal.. something is just off

[fading osprey]

Mhm. Those cultists were freaky.

[hearty edge]

he looks bald

[graceful rivet]

I love eternal revenant but yeah, not my fave

[hearty edge]

i love how dying in 3 shots in eternal is considered weak but in tda there's like literally no heavy that can survive more than 3 ssg shots

[fading osprey]

Dread knight is the goat

[graceful rivet]

fighting the urge to draw this mf over peter griffin

[fading osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392312554675638428/1474183799633088656/togif.gif

[graceful rivet]

Oh don't test me

i have mspaint and a mouse AND a tablet with pen

[fading osprey]

please, oh gracious scribe.
PLEASE BLESS US WITH THE ETHEREAL DEPICTIONS OF THE ONES WE SLAUGHTER

[graceful rivet]

The what now?

[fading osprey]

Im just talking like
Some dude

-# sorry

[graceful rivet]

ok

peter griffin dark ages mancubus has been added to the list

[fading osprey]

yo that kinda fire

[hearty edge]

cant spot the difference

[worldly gulch]

I swear Ultra Nightmare on doom dark ages was so damn easy

[obsidian shard]

Launch or Recenty?

[worldly gulch]

Launch

[obsidian shard]

Theres also Sliders to adjust the game to your liking!

[worldly gulch]

ik

[fading osprey]

Interesting….

[versed quarry]

I think the game in general was easier.

[obsidian shard]

they increased the difficulty since launch and made multiple changes and improvements

[worldly gulch]

Yeah

[versed quarry]

And I'm the guy that usually plays the easiest difficulty.

[worldly gulch]

I'm pretty sure after eternal all doom fans were really good at dark ages already, and also I personally dislike the over usage of the shield mechanic

https://tenor.com/view/ironmouse-doom-vtuber-vshojo-anime-gif-8722965527068138544

Exactly like that

[uneven dragon]

i thought tda was easier after the updates tbh

[worldly gulch]

I haven't played tda that much after swiss cheesing it

Lowkey the huge difference between eternal and tda is crazy

Look at these cacodemon gifs rq

https://tenor.com/view/honest-reaction-doom-cacodemon-gif-792118870890486214

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-demon-cacodemon-gif-2022492627105848245

[fading osprey]

That’s 2016, but your point still stands

-# oh wait there’s no eternal ones

[worldly gulch]

That was the closest I could find of a gif of a doom eternal cacodemon

[fading osprey]

Ah right

[worldly gulch]

It still looks very alike tho

I remember when cacodemons didnt have legs and we didn't need shields to progress

[fading osprey]

And when we could just stagger them by force feeding them a grenade

Speaking of, I don’t like the “glory kills” in TDA. Are they even glory kills? Or is it smth new

[obsidian shard]

When did they have legs?

[obsidian shard]

There are regular glory kills still, But it is a new system

[fading osprey]

Ah

[worldly gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-demon-cacodemon-gif-2022492627105848245

[worldly gulch]

Yeah

the gif

[obsidian shard]

those are tenticles, The Caco's Fly

They are also called Cacodemon Hybrids in game! so they arent actually cacos

[obsidian shard]

also will say it feels pretty smooth while playing (particularly with the areas with tons of enemys)

[fading osprey]

Hm

[gentle girder]

Dr doom

[obsidian shard]

A big thing is the Parry/Melee slow-mo slider!

Ripatorium encounters demonstrate the new system MUCH Better then how the campaign does imo

I do understand the Critique tho

[fading osprey]

I see

[obsidian shard]

Hopefully the DLC has more!

[elder raven]

This poor Cacodemon bought Cosmic Realm Spring Water from the gas station. Please send prayers!

[last geyser]

These things are as big if not bigger than tyrants btw

[deft slate]

Yo I’m pretty new to doom, is the butcher skin still available? I tried for like an hour to get it and it still hasn’t worked :/

[obsidian shard]

Its not Currently Available.

[deft slate]

December 9th is the final window right?

[hearty edge]

mostly just executions but you can do glory kills if you jump before executing

almost never do it tho

[obsidian shard]

Kills the flow imo

[hearty edge]

even in the campaign the change from 100% slow mo to 0% slow mo is unreal and makes you appreciate the system more

[obsidian shard]

I Believe that was as of last year (Please Correct me if I'm wrong)

[hearty edge]

nexusmods is calling

[hearty edge]

ts might be a bad comparison but i feel like that's disliking the usage of quickswapping or the meathook in eternal

[hearty edge]

iont remember there being 3 vagaries in siege 1 at launch

[fresh lintel]

i don't mind using the glory kills every once in a while for whenever im gathering footage for a GMV but in normal gameplay i never use them unless it's by accident XD i like punching demons so hard they explode

[fading bone]

there were

[iron kettle]

Has anyone else noticed how they put a bunch of megaspheres where you don't need them, but then don't put any in places they would useful

[fading bone]

like where?

the only one that i can think of is on city of ryuul at the beginning after the first jump circle thing where the blueberry is in the helmet armor but thats just a fun little easter egg more than an actual useful pickup

(unless you just suck at dodging the tentacles in the secret below)

[placid bough]

I’m starting to realize the DLC is taking longer to be released since the game devs are also making various updates with DLSS 5 integration

[weak gust]

Are agaddon hunters similar to doom hunters during gameplay? (The mechanics and whatnot) I haven’t played the game yet

[delicate sparrow]

Its pretty much done tho. All that is left is play testing and fixing things to feel fluid. Max two months

[delicate sparrow]

Nha nothing alike

[weak gust]

Thank you

[elder raven]

this just isnt happening lmao

[harsh egret]

ehm, no

[hazy pasture]

Nuh uh

[placid bough]

I hope I’m wrong lol…dlss 5 will prob come out after the DLC around November 2026

[hazy pasture]

They're not integrating DLSS 5 in TDA lol

It's still a long way to go in terms of it's own development and of course... DLSS 5 sucks anyways

[frosty roost]

they're not doing DLSS 5...

[hazy pasture]

Howdy F r o g g y!!

[weak gust]

I’ve been watching a few level playthroughs to decide if I wanna buy this game or no, damn does the Cosmic Baron alone make me consider the former

I think I’ll pick up the premium edit during the next sale

[elder raven]

buy it

[delicate sparrow]

Best experienced blind tbh

[frosty roost]

hey doc!

[weak gust]

I already know what happens in the game but, I knew that for Eternal as well

And that game was mindblowing

[hazy pasture]

How are you doing though?

[delicate sparrow]

Yeah eternal is so wild. I recommend dark ges its really good and a good game to Replay also and its fun to get good at

[frosty roost]

doing good, been doing a lot of irl stuff lately so haven't been around the server as much as i'd like to. I'm chilling!

[hazy pasture]

Sounds good!

[placid bough]

It does suck but the dlss 5 memes are comedy 😭

[errant osprey]

I wish the Ripatorium 3.0 update was released sooner.
Entering codes in the console is really tedious.

[worldly gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hagrid-dark-times-harry-potter-gif-11616633

[delicate sparrow]

I wonder what will get expanded in ripatorium 3.0

Maybe blue enemies that power up others

[solid nacelle]

I think it would be funny if they added an option to toggle fog on a per round basis

[delicate sparrow]

Inverted controlls fog

[errant osprey]

I would like to see some interesting changes added to it,
For example, at the end of every 3 rounds, it would allow you to choose between a BFC ammo or an extra life.
I would like to see some changes added that would encourage you to spend more time on it.
But for now, I would like to see them simplify the code.

[solid nacelle]

Checkpoints would actually be really nice

Optional of course

[split gate]

Hope once the DLC releases, we can have a more constant stream of content like Master Levels (pls master level campaign), randomisers and Ripatorium stuff, maybe even level creation or something

[broken thunder]

Its almost like its the dark ages...... okay ill leave

[split gate]

TDA was barren in the content department, and this is counting Ripatorium for me unfortunately. The DLC better make up for the lack of content, I know id can do it tho

[versed quarry]

2016 had custom levels. I tried to make one once, it was pretty complicated.

[split gate]

Snapmap was so fun, especially playing on other people’s maps

[versed quarry]

I’m sure it was fun. I was just too stupid to figure it out lmao

[split gate]

I wasn’t really into the creation side of things as I didn’t have the creativity for level designs, but the community could do some great stuff with what TDA offers

[versed quarry]

Yeah

[gleaming vortex]

imagine a roguelike mode where you drop in to hell from the ship with a random weapon and no upgrades and you have to traverse the layers of hell to fight a member of the high council at the end

[obsidian shard]

I both do and Don't understand this

How is content Barren compared to Eternal

Cuz at Launch TDA had 22 levels

Eternal had 13 + 1 Master level +Battlemode

TDA has more stuff in the campaign then Eternals campaign+TAG

Please someone explain this to me 😭😭😭

[gleaming vortex]

yeah but at the end of the day a multiplayer PvP game with different players and characters is always going to have more replay value than playing the same 14 levels over and over again. even if the battle mode kinda sucked, which it did.

[obsidian shard]

Try Finding a Battlemode match rn

Same with 2016

Yes it's more content but it's almost impossible to play

I do get what you mean tho

[gleaming vortex]

yeah fs, i just wish they added invasions to eternal or even dark ages. that shit would ball so hard they’d call it the nutsack

[split gate]

Battlemode, as lackluster as it was, had more replay value and constant updates. Master levels are not the same as the campaign and we later had Arc Complex released. I’m not talking about at launch, but in a year’s timeframe.

Not a single master level released in a year is still strange for me…

[gleaming vortex]

i think they’re working on a NG+ master campaign for later

[split gate]

At the very least, they could have released one at launch like Cultist base

[obsidian shard]

I see, I understand.... At the one year, Dark Ages is def lacking compared to Eternal.

Tyty

[obsidian shard]

Khalim pleassse

[gleaming vortex]

it’s just kind of impossible to compare a gamemode with actual humans to a gamemode with NPCs, because humans are odd unpredictable creatures unlike NPCs

[split gate]

All good fam, I love TDA to bits and that includes its shortcomings

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[gleaming vortex]

speaking of its shortcomings, the new star fox game makes me look at the dragon sections and sigh longingly lmao

[obsidian shard]

Some of Serrat's attacks are still unintentionally in the game too 😭

[versed quarry]

Wait what

[split gate]

I understood that the dragon sections were for gameplay variety but I don’t remember there were major complaints of 2016 and Eternal being just the pure FPS experience they were

[errant osprey]

I love Dark Ages, but it's true that the game suffers from a lack of content, and Repatorium doesn't make up for that.
I still hope that they'll release more content for the game after the DLC, otherwise I'll be disappointed.

[obsidian shard]

#videos message

[split gate]

Please id, we need this, the main menu is kind of content-less 😭

[versed quarry]

Oh damn

[gleaming vortex]

tbf dark ages has almost 10 more levels than those two, 7 if we’re not counting three mech levels. they also don’t really introduce new enemies past the halfway point, which is a problem 2016 had

[gloomy vortex]

dark the doom ages

[obsidian shard]

They def will, there's usually a full 2 years of support id does for the game with content ending at update 6.66

[versed quarry]

Wait that’s all their games? I thought that was just a funny DOOM thing.

[split gate]

I didn’t even realise this until now

[errant osprey]

Maybe it's just wishful thinking.
But I feel like they're waiting for the DLC to come out and then releasing the Master Levels (maybe even the Master Campaign) so that players can enjoy the DLC features, like the spear, in addition to the main game features, and everyone can develop their own gameplay style. Plus, they're adding new DLC demons to it.

[gleaming vortex]

i think they’ve said the master campaign would be post-dlc

[split gate]

In addition, the first mech level was very short, which was disappointing for me. I had to stop at the end and wonder why it was even a separate level in the first place

[gleaming vortex]

yeah it really didn’t need to be

[errant osprey]

Yeah, I think they said something like that.
And I feel like the main campaign will come with DLC demons and additional DLC features.
That would be fine.

[split gate]

If it was in the end of the 2nd level, it would go well as a way to wind the player down after the boss fight

[obsidian shard]

Also also, the DLC is gonna be Very content heavy this time round (Basically like a Sequel)

• It's gonna be around the same length but slightly longer than TAG1+2

• We're getting 2 weapons

• Slayer Gates

• HUB

• Master Arena's (whatever this means)

• and Ripatorium 3.0

[split gate]

They didn’t say much about the Master Arenas?

[obsidian shard]

No... Just one of the words Hugo said on stream

[gleaming vortex]

wait wdym the same length but longer than tag 1+2?

[split gate]

What are these guys cooking lol, they realised they could do a lot more with no multiplayer 😂

[versed quarry]

Kinda wish they had Dark Ages-styled ripatourium in Eternal

[split gate]

It’s good to know we’re getting something next week tho

[obsidian shard]

Honestly... No clue. Just Hugo's hint from Thursday regarding how Long the DLC is

[gleaming vortex]

hurm…

[split gate]

Wonder what the title would be…

[gleaming vortex]

doom: the darker ages

[split gate]

Doom: The Nine Circles?

[weak gust]

Maybe smth to do with the council

[weak gust]

That would be awesome

[split gate]

Imagine they just title it Doom the Dark Ages 2, they said fuck it, have a sequel 😭

Ya’ll waited long enough, we turned the DLC into a full-length game, Silksong type beat

[twilit stone]

Play the Infinite Arena/Slaughter Mode mod, its really addictive

[primal portal]

They should have added multiplayer to the game tbh

[ruby moon]

yes bro i love playing slaughter mode with my grandson ( @zenith sail ). once we queue we just cant stop, LOL

[zenith sail]

Fr

[last geyser]

Waste of resources

[round tundra]

Anyone know how to get doom the dark ages running on a gpu lower than 8gb VRAM? I'm running a 1660 6gb till the end of the month and want to play a little bit before my 5070 get here for my birthday

I tried running the game as administrator but it just shows the same error code

[vivid stump]

beb

[fleet spruce]

the issue here is that you're trying to run on an 1660

no RT capabilities

[round tundra]

I've read online from some articles that were posted that some people managed to get the game running on non RT gpus

Is that not the case?

If so, guess I'm waiting for my 5070 🙁

Oh well

[fleet spruce]

you gotta jump thru some hoops to get it running like that

[round tundra]

Ahh, I see

So just wait for the 5070?

[fading bone]

oh shit a fellow 5070 bro? im also gonna have one soon

[glad geode]

can doom really run.. on anything

[umbral flint]

try running the game directly from the folder

[round tundra]

That's what I did

I ran the exe as administrator from the local file directory and it shows the same issue

[umbral flint]

then i guess youll have to wait for the 5070 sorry about that

[round tundra]

Ah no bother

Thanks for the help anyways

[elder raven]

think about it this way

you have to wait to play dark ages and then when you play it, it’ll take a little bit to finish it

and then you have endless ripatorium presets

and then you wait for the dlc

but you have ultimately waited less for the dlc

[round tundra]

Well, it will be my 2nd play through (first was on xbox and had a blast)

Haven't tried the ripatorium yet so that'll be fun

And very true about the DLC

[elder raven]

hop on waltz bro

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/komodo-wild-animals-biawak-monitor-lizard-lizard-gif-11027716

New enemy type dropping in DLC: Photorealistic Komodo

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/e3-peggle-jump-two-gif-13350703

KOMODO… 2!

[last geyser]

How about a bipedal komodo

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/t-rex-walking-4-gif-4124041536932013381

T-Modo Rex

Or, alternatively, the long-awaited Photo Komodo

Just a Komodo with a camera strapped to it

[versed quarry]

Makes me think of how the UAC was doing expositions into Hell, and they have the hologram recording. It’s just Hell doing expositions into Argent D’Nur.

[alpine pilot]

[weak gust]

Which reoccurring enemies do you guys wish come back for the DLC? I kinda hope the Vassago gets reintroduced

[winged pond]

pain elemental and carcass

[pliant cloak]

i wanna practice Nightmare difficulty before going into UN attempts. i was originally planning on beating all 2 Nightmare modes but should i go for beating Nightmare first or skip to Pandemonium?

[errant osprey]

I think Pandemonium is the best thing to practice for Ultra Nightmare.
But I think you should practice a round of Nightmare first.

Is it possible that the voice assistant in Slayer's Doom suit is Vega and that Seraphim placed him in Slayer's suit without Slayer recognizing him?

[pliant cloak]

that would be so cool

[versed quarry]

Carcasses can fuck off all the way to Pluto

I’m sorry, they’re just so annoying

[frosty pine]

I love being swindled out of a glory kill at the last second!!!

[winged pond]

acolyte worse

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[versed quarry]

Just give me the Archvile and it’s flame wall. I’d rather deal with that.

[winged pond]

Im excited to see its new design for this game

[versed quarry]

Oh yeah absolutely

[hearty edge]

at least i can shield bash ssg acolytes

carcasses be blocking my movement every living moment

i hate u sgn ml

(best level oat)

[hearty edge]

if u wanna do UN might as well do a pandemonium run

that way u get the skin that comes with it

[hearty edge]

i run the game in a 3050 laptop and it's... playable

but yea if running with administrator isn't working they might've patched it already

and hey if you wait for the 5070 you'll be able to play the game in all of its glory from the start

[hearty edge]

playing the presets is the closest thing to it ig

[hearty edge]

is anyone actually playing the multiplayer on the previous 2 games

[hearty edge]

hey they introduce the komodo

that's something ig

[gleaming vortex]

yeah the cosmic baron and acolyte show up in level 15 and that’s it

[hearty edge]

oh oh and the cacodemon technically appears past the halfway point

[versed quarry]

I think 2016 is kinda alive, but Eternal is definitely not.

[hearty edge]

but yea eternal introducing a new enemy on like every single level until taras nabad was great

[versed quarry]

I agree, but Dark Ages was much longer, and they can’t really introduce a morbillion different enemy types.

[hearty edge]

true

and it doesnt feel like it needs any more enemies

[versed quarry]

Although the prospect of having a morbillion different enemy types is funny.

[weak gust]

Even beyond that without counting Slayer Gates

It's amazing

[hearty edge]

the cosmic realm is an interesting enough location in and of itself, belly of the beast is great all around, harbor of souls playing like a classic level with backtracking, keys, and the berserk powerup just makes it the best level in the entire game and the last 3 serve as goated challenges

like u alr have all of ur arsenal and mastery of the gameplay so just rip and tear

[hearty edge]

yep forgot about the tyrant in nekravol

[versed quarry]

I hate the fact that they called it the “cosmic realm” because “cosmic” just means space. Earth and Argent D’Nur are ALREADY IN SPACE.

They’re in THE COSMOS.

[hearty edge]

but its a realm so its different

[versed quarry]

Earth is in the realm that has cosmos.

[weak gust]

Well, cosmic in a different sense

But you know that

[mystic coral]

I want dlc now

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

No way? People want the DLC?

Send an email to Hugo and I’m sure he’ll send you a copy.

[mystic coral]

🫩

[versed quarry]

People are always asking about the DLC and it’s annoying and also against the rules.

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-shocked-nompa-gif-2196528724599529860

[harsh egret]

Wouldn't say it's against the rules but it does get pretty annoying yh

[open knoll]

Hi everyone, started TDA yesterday, only played through the tutorial area but I can't wait to continue today after work (waited a year to play this).
I will probably get bashed for saying this but I think I like the music better than eternal. Will all due respect ofcourse..
I remember reviewers said the music is not as good as the previous titles because it's not by mick gordon and that it's "generic". As a hardcore metal fan give me "generic" death metal tracks all day long.. yesterday I almost cried when the opening scene track played (when he lands on earth).

Too bad there isn't growling as well.

[harsh egret]

You will not get bashed for that opinion, not in this discord channel at least 😅 , lots of peope here enjoy the hell out of the music in this game and some, me included, prefer it over Eternal as well

Have fun with the rest of the game dude, the music is just so damn good throughout the game

[open knoll]

Thx a lot 🤘

[echo shadow]

When will a dlc come out?

[unkempt dragon]

We don't know yet, and when we do, you and everyone else will know

[echo shadow]

Thanks

[split gate]

I find this place to be more reasonable for discussions, I get reminded every time I go to Youtube and unintentionally see an opinion about the game

[split gate]

Also if the haters really claim that TDA’s ost is seen as terrible by the community then why are the majority of the comments you see in YT for the music positive? Haters are a loud and small minority, and the game is still reviewed as positive by majority of professional reviewers (of course, not saying we should take those reviews seriously but it is generally a good indicator)

[scenic lichen]

I don’t

I hope the DLC never comes out

Yall don’t need it it’s all in your head

[graceful rivet]

i think the dark ages revenant is cool

[fading bone]

i agree

[graceful rivet]

badass skeleton with cigar aura

always wins me over

[fading bone]

full on grim reaper aura

[pastel pebble]

Verily, mine anticipation for the forthcoming Doom: The Dark Ages downloadable content knoweth no earthly bounds; I await its arrival with a fervor most profound and unrelenting

[undone hemlock]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[viscid cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/kabangu-upset-annoyed-gif-14814728

[unkempt dragon]

this isn't the channel for brainrot

also that joke is old and dead

[viscid cosmos]

Jup, this isn't the Fortnite channel.

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/thevldlsquad-officer-agifforthescammers-vldl-ben-gif-20441727

[open knoll]

Hi guys, I am loving this game. But I want to ask, why some textures look like they are from early 2000's? Muddy, not sharp.. is this on purpose? I play at 1440p everything on max

Maybe I should turn up the sharpness? Or maybe this is just how the game is.

I am talking about pipes, walls, metals etc.. mainly the enviroment.

[obsidian shard]

Thats def a bit strange. What specs do you have?

[open knoll]

9800x3d, 4090.. capable machine. I get 80-100 fps with path tracing on.

Maybe this is just the art style of the game? I guess.

[hazy pasture]

Hmm they don't look muddy at all that's I am sure of

[open knoll]

When I am getting really close to them it looks like it's bioshock 1/2

[hazy pasture]

What is your texture/geometric quality set to?

[open knoll]

Everything on ultra nightmare

[hazy pasture]

And change your DLSS setting to quality or native if not done

[open knoll]

Dlss is on quality

[hazy pasture]

Is your monitor running on overscan mode?

[open knoll]

It looks like a "retro filter"

[hazy pasture]

Send in an ss

and settings too

[stray urchin]

Try upping the sharpness to at least 3-4. I have mine at 3.75 because the default looks so blurry

[open knoll]

I'll try to play with it.. but it looks liks these are the actual textures. Some look amazing (like in the cutscenes, and weapons etc) but specifically enviroments textures look like they are from the early 2000 days.

[hazy pasture]

I think you should check settings again later on

Because they don't look like old game texture quality lol

[fading bone]

i even have my game at some of the lowest settings possible and i dont feel like theyre even close to early 2000s looking lol

[hazy pasture]

Yeah exactly

[harsh egret]

i'd be very curious to see an example of this in #screenshots if you could upload a screenshot there

[open knoll]

Sure..when I get to a good example in the game I'll take one.

Another un-related to graphic question guys, and I hope this is not a spoiler or anything. At the end I can completely max out all weapon upgrades? Or I need to think hard of what I want to upgrade? I just reached my first shrine.

[hazy pasture]

You can max out every weapon but you'll have to explore every corner for secrets

But of course do it wisely

Upgrade the most needed weapon first

[harsh egret]

pretty sure u can upgrade most if not everything and u will still have leftovers no?

i could be wrong but thats how i remember it lol

[hazy pasture]

Yeah you'll just have to replay to be able to purchase more upgrades

You can't get everything in a single run

So therefore, choose wisely

[harsh egret]

wait wdym, if u replay a level u dont get more gold no? and all the other stuff

[fading bone]

you can get everything in one run

can********

you 100% can

[harsh egret]

yeah thought so as well

[hazy pasture]

oh wait yeah

[fading bone]

youre left over with 5 rubies and like 500 gold if you 100%

[hazy pasture]

that's why 100% completion exists lol

[hazy pasture]

yeah yeah true

[hazy pasture]

So this applies anyways

[fading bone]

but there are exactly the same amount of wraithstones as weapons so you have to get all of those if you want to get all those upgrades

[hazy pasture]

@open knoll you can upgrade everything

But make sure to explore every part of the level

[open knoll]

Thx guys. Oh I hate this part so much LOL. I want everything!!

[fading bone]

its not that hard to 100% this game compared to others tbh. the map is pretty forgiving and you just kinda stumble into a lot of the secrets as well

[cold patio]

colossus unleashed is fire

[open knoll]

Hi,
I took these in the game. Tell me if they look ok to you
#screenshots message

[harsh egret]

i mean yeah, they do. i cant think of a single game that doesnt have things like this on at least some assets in the game to gain some perfomance

[daring linden]

The only secrets you really need to search for are the wolf statue ones

everything else is practically just given to you via the automap

its honestly kinda lame

[open knoll]

Yeah, but it looks like here they use more than the usual. Nowadays textures in games have like millions of polygons and they are super sharp.. UE5 style if you know what I mean.
But it is what it is, I guess they are not going for the ultra realistic style. It's actually cool, I don't mind.

I wasn't sure if this is just me or the game.

[fading bone]

i mean the game looks incredible and has tons of realistic detail everywhere. youre looking at a random book asset and a wall right up close in ways that the devs didnt ever think anyone would look at

[twilit stone]

Its not just you, i see it too

[harsh egret]

i think he meant more so the box that the book is on, not the book, and the pipes next to the wall

but yeah, in development assets get different priorities for how high quality they need to be

that weapon next to the book on that box for example would be bad if it was low quality, and u would notice it more, but the book they would pay less atention to so it doesnt need to be high quality

[hazy pasture]

Optimising the whole thing will take them eons and that's just for a single level

[harsh egret]

and it also depends where they are in the environment, how far away from the player they are, etc etc

[hazy pasture]

TDA already has massive skyboxes and vistas

[hazy pasture]

Yh

[open knoll]

I just used to games where the textures look super sharp even from 1mm away.
But I mean the lighting and reflections look amazing in TDA..no doubt.

I am probably the only lunatic that stare at texturtes from 1mm away LOL.

[harsh egret]

nah youre not dw

[twilit stone]

Its really noticable for me too

I wish the game just had more particles in some areas I guess, think the Cosmic Realm especially would've benefitted from this

[harsh egret]

its just part of optimization, and ue5 games are nearly always full of optimization issues

(since u mentioned ue5 earlier)

[open knoll]

Yeah, but it is dominating in the textures department (or maybe it is not related to the engine itself..not sure). But UE5 titles always look amazing, textures are super sharp.
For example, if you played remnant 2, I can stare at a wooden brick for hours and hours, it's just so realistic.

But I digress.

[harsh egret]

yeah my point is maybe thats one of the reasons why it is less optimized of an engine

[delicate sparrow]

Doom dark ages looks like a n64 game

[open knoll]

Maybe.. there is something to it. id games run like no other, no doubt about that.

[harsh egret]

so i would rather take games that look like dark ages than ue5 games that run the same but with RT off

[delicate sparrow]

From little technical things of what i understand its the rtx that makes the game look a little bit muddy on console. I dont understand why it cant be turned off but maybe it will be resolved in the future

[open knoll]

As I understand RT is innate part of the game, the entire lighting is bases on that. It's not a seperate feature, it's the actual lighting system.

I think in the future all games will be like that, there is not a reason not to.. as soon as all hardware will be capable enough.

[delicate sparrow]

If current gen can kinda work with it then next gen will be optimized for it im sure. Just linda sucks now cause current gen is starting to get weak for the greater things that are being made so we need a new gen

[obsidian shard]

Also a Hit Detection system uses RT

Using RT saves 40-110gb of storage

[delicate sparrow]

Oof thats alot

[open knoll]

So if I play the same chapter again the gold respawns?

I don't mind a little grinding. And to git gud on the way

[delicate sparrow]

Hmm i dont think it respawns,if you collected it then thats it

[open knoll]

Yeah..thought that much. Thx

[harsh egret]

yeah it does not

[potent parcel]

yeah, the only gold that will still be there is whatever you missed

[spiral crow]

I'm thinking of doing one last Ripatorium Preset and then i'm done till the DLC is out

[primal cave]

IM GONNA BUY THE DARK AGES INSTEAD OF PIRACY.

[elder raven]

good for you man

[primal cave]

Thanks bro 🙏

[pastel pebble]

With daisy and doomguys past being brought up in the DLC, I'm really curious and excited to see how that'll play out 🤔 It'll most likely be something like a flashback. I know one of the main guesses I've seen is that the council could've had something to do with the death of the slayers family. I hope we also get to see the full version of the family photo before it was torn.
I'm still pretty hyped to see all of it though

[delicate sparrow]

I want to be able to select Daisy as a playable character in the ripatorium

[pastel pebble]

[inner cape]

Hey question to all of you I’m planning on to buy doom the dark age but can you tell me is the game is worth buying it?

[vast silo]

definitely yes

[inner cape]

Care to elaborate?

[elder raven]

if you love doom (as a franchise) youll love dark ages

[inner cape]

That’s good point

[supple oracle]

YES, it is worth it

[elder raven]

saleem my beloved

[pastel pebble]

100% yes, absolutely amazing game and a blast to play. I would recommend waiting for it to go on sale. I think a lot of platforms will have a summer sale possibly soon and I wouldn't be surprised if it went on sale then as well. But it's a really fun playthrough

[foggy fable]

Very worth it but wait for a sale

It’s been around a year since it came out and I personally do not buy games full price if it’s not at launch

[hearty edge]

summer sale starts in 45 days if u dont wanna buy it at full price

it'll probably be 50% off or more

which for the game with the longest campaign, basically endless replayability and what i consider the best gameplay outta the 3, i think 35 bucks is more than worth it

[solar spoke]

worth it, personal GOTY for me last year

[wide siren]

almost as good as the housemaid film of the year

[random sand]

Same here

[alpine pilot]

[split gate]

The Doom you’re looking for may be coming in a few days bro, we have news for TDA soon

[onyx flax]

If you're on pc you can just try it and refund if something feels bad

[delicate sparrow]

How did it not win goty is beyond me

[fading bone]

i mean...there were many other extremely good games in the list

[wide siren]

doom these days is too marginal for that. would be quite suprising if any shooter won goty tbh

[split gate]

Expedition 33 said so, and I gotta agree lol, if it wasn’t that, probably Silksong

[regal spade]

dark ages for president

[thin hound]

Even though DOOM: The Dark Ages is pretty universally appealing, if everyone gave it a good try

[cold patio]

TDA is best doom ever, idgaf what others says, you like something, play it and dgaf about what others says

[solar spoke]

I can get other games winning but E33 won way too many for it to be a fair show. It actually put me off E33 a bit

[split gate]

Exactly. I was happy for E33 as GOTY but it did not need that many awards when the others excelled more at certain parts than E33

[earnest silo]

Hello Everyone

Whasup

[open knoll]

Anyone here plays with Frame gen? I would like to know how is the experience.
Is there any noticeable latency?

I would like to get more FPS but I don't want to disable path tracing 🙂

[earnest silo]

I mean bro path tracing is only visible in 10% of the whole game
and in action you wouldn't even notice it since it is a fast paced game

you can't see the difference

just disable it

I haven't played DA yet
but as a dev I am speaking by experience

[onyx flax]

I don't think doom is particularly marginal it's just too focused to win a GOTY award

[wide siren]

that’s a better way to put it yeah

[spark elm]

Interesting that I’m completing slayer gates in eternal now before they return in this game

I have 1 more!

[onyx flax]

It could maybe win a beat graphics or whatever but I don't know if that even exists

And honestly I think eternal looks better on my PC since RT causes those flickers without a powerful gpu

Like the gun viewer in the menu looks bad

[open knoll]

I think I am probably the only one that plays doom as an open world game 😄 .
I stop all the time to look at the view. I always play games on max settings (usually with DLSS quality) but I almost never use Frame gen.
But with this game DLSS quality is not enough to get 100+ FPS on 1440p with 4090. So I am considering using FG.

[onyx flax]

In my experience going above 100 is mostly for responsiveness which frame generation doesn't help with

I'm not gonna pretend you can only see up to 60fps but it's smooth enough imo

[fading bone]

60fps looks like poopoo

[earnest silo]

Bro I am currently using i3 Gen Shitty laptop
this tech for me is god-like xD

[onyx flax]

Feels like poopoo

Unless you mean to tell me all movies are unwatchable because they don't play at 100+ fps

[fading bone]

completely different

playing on 60fps i can see the choppiness

movies are recorded specifically with lower frame rates, it's just not something comparable

[earnest silo]

that are some unrelatable problems guys xD

[onyx flax]

Ye it's just whining at the end of the day

[earnest silo]

I played the heck out of Eternal at my friend's PC and it was usually running at 120FPS and on that monitor anything over 60 is same

[onyx flax]

I think higher fps still registers your inputs faster but don't quote me on that

Also there are higher fresh rate displays

[fading bone]

that's cope lol the difference between 120/144 and anything lower is just so obvious it hurts my eyes

anything under 100 and i notice immediately

[onyx flax]

It's not hard to notice but it's also not that big a deal imo

[fading bone]

its a huge deal if you can play 144+ in any other game

it looks/feels so bad when you can just straight up see the choppiness

[onyx flax]

I agree it feels worse but I think that's the extra input lag more than the choppiness

[fading bone]

nah i think its just the choppiness. like it's just so clear it messes with my brain

[onyx flax]

unfortunate I guess

[wheat sigil]

minecraft feels completely fine at 50fps, but to me doom eternal at 100 feels bad

completely depends on the media

[fading bone]

wont be a problem anymore with my new PC coming in soon

[onyx flax]

Because doom eternal requires your inputs to be much more precise and fast

You don't use frame gen to get your 144 in eternal right?

[wheat sigil]

no

[wheat sigil]

what i mean is, it looks choppy to me when playing at 100fps

not a lot, but a bit

[onyx flax]

I guess it just doesn't bother me than

I mostly care about input lag

And I mostly play fightg games who are locked at 60fps for (what I assume are) balance reasons so even if I upgraded my PC nothing would change 😔

Can't even feed them more ram since old games are 32bit

[open knoll]

Another question guys: unlike eternal, I can use whatever weapon I like? Except for special cases like the plasma rifle is better for cutting through plasma shields etc .. but in the majority of the time there is no neccesity of using certain weapons on certain enemies?

I remember in eternal it was almost mandatory sometimes to use specific weapons

[fading bone]

its much less required yeah

[wheat sigil]

like in eternal, you aren't forced to use any specific weapons ye

[fading bone]

certain things are generally better in certain situations vs some enemies but you can survive with using the same thing for the most part

[open knoll]

Thx

[earnest silo]

yess the design this time revolves more around the specific builds
kinda like RPG
you select the guns u like and the runes
and go with that
farm armor or health with the build

[open knoll]

What's the deal with the skull crusher? I just got it.. am I missing something or is it just another auto weapon?

[fading bone]

its big spread splash damage

[open knoll]

Oh..for clearing mobs?

[fading bone]

low range wide spread

yeah

[open knoll]

Nice. Thx

I upped the sharpness to 3. It does look a bit better to my eyes.

[grim cloud]

4 days till 1 year

what will we get? a few second tease with a "see more at the showcase!"?

[obsidian shard]

I mean we are getting some form of teaser

[grim cloud]

do you remember the reverent tease back in 2015? a month before E3. It changed the Doom world forever

[open knoll]

The weapon upgrades that have two choices, can I have both and switch between them or I need to pick only one?

[onyx flax]

It's sick!

[fading bone]

you can switch between them in the menu

[open knoll]

Thx. All weapons are good, I can't choose. What's the meta? 😁

[obsidian shard]

There isn't really one. Just what suits your play style!

[open knoll]

By the way, I can't roll upgrades back can I?

[open knoll]

I like everything!!

A shot to the face, nail to the head and spraying.

[grim cloud]

i personally stay away from things that slow the game down. It just never felt right, this includes that rune in Doom Eternal

[fading bone]

heatblast early game, going for shield/gauntlet max, richochet shredder and SSG

but you can play it however you want

[open knoll]

I loved heatblast in eternal

[fading bone]

impaler is prolly overall the best gun in the game still although richochet shredder is just nutso as well

[open knoll]

I put one upgrade to the shotgun. Now I kinda regret it

[fading bone]

yeah its kinda doodoo compared to other guns

but it can still be decent

[open knoll]

Why there isn't a way to roll back upgrades? Frustrating

Players need to experiment

[fading bone]

too forgiving + can just refund a bunch of shit and max something out later

too many ways to break the early game

[open knoll]

I am seriously thinking of starting a new game

[fading bone]

but you get enough to get all the upgrades anyway if you go for 100% so youll get everything to test out anyways