the-dark-ages

[swift peak]

I know you’re doing it id.

[slender night]

They also revealed the Icon and Mastermind returning in 2 second clips within trailers so I guess id never really figured out hype

[fading bone]

lol

[swift peak]

Wait what? When was this?

[slender night]

2016 and Eternal trailers

[swift peak]

Oh, okay. I thought you said they’re returning in the DLC

[fading bone]

id's hype strategy has seemed to revolved around nostalgia bait more than anything

[swift peak]

This must mean that the DLC will have the Motherdemon

[slender night]

I wish they'd let us see these cool ass appearances blind instead of teasing them early for no real reason

[swift peak]

And then we’ll get Samur Maykr in Avengers Doomsday

[harsh egret]

i love when they said all the footage in the dev direct was from act 1 of the game and that was just a lie lol

[grim cloud]

I want screenshots and key arts

and maybe a teaser

[swift peak]

What footage wasn’t?

[fading bone]

is this my evil twin

[harsh egret]

ur gonna get all that in one whenever that happens

[slender night]

I hope the key art doesn't take notes from the TAG 2 cover art cuz that was a pretty bad DLC cover imo

[harsh egret]

hm?

[swift peak]

Nvm

[slender night]

Instead of expanding on the original cover like 2016's DLCs or TAG 1 did, it just went a whole new route

And it looked a bit too mcu for my taste

[harsh egret]

i did like tag 1's key art quite a bit

[slender night]

TAG 1 rocked. Maybe my favorite cover in the whole franchise, DOOM 3 RoE rivals it tho

I hope the TDA DLC one rocks too

[swift peak]

I’m a big fan of 2016s red cover, something about it is so good

[harsh egret]

i got the physical copy somewhere fk knows where, its so sick

[grim cloud]

doom eternal vanilla had two

[slender night]

One was for the deluxe edition iirc

TDA also had a seperate one for its premium edition but it's kinda mid

[harsh egret]

is it the one with the lava in the background and stuff

ye i dont love that one but the normal one is so fkin good

[slender night]

It's everything I wanted it to be, and more

[grim cloud]

we only have that one concept art with the ice and snow right?

[harsh egret]

yeah

[grim cloud]

does anyone have a high res version?

[harsh egret]

idek if there is a high res version

[twilit stone]

Hugo: "yeah no ummm... they'r-they're.. definitely the same I mean, it probably just got like.. molded into a different shape by like the Cosmic Realm or smth"

[harsh egret]

#screenshots message i think this is as high res as you're gonna get

[grim cloud]

ill take it thanks much

[obsidian shard]

Tyty gonna use

[grim cloud]

its on my as my desktop background at work

[slender night]

https://tenor.com/view/doit-gif-4445196

Do it for the DLC

[young schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1430735344609001514/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_1.gif

[spiral crow]

XD

[stuck basalt]

dlc nugget of the day: the dlc is different from normal gameplay

[south mist]

i cant play tda

[slender night]

Why

[obsidian shard]

Specs?

[swift peak]

The nefarious raytracing:

[south mist]

yep

[stuck basalt]

yes you can you got to believe in yourself

[elder raven]

i can run dark ages on my brain

[south mist]

me too

[swift peak]

you could also run TDA on doom 2..

[green estuary]

I’m currently in a lecture about Ray tracing in my grad school class
Oddly fitting

[harsh egret]

imagine Tiago from id software as guest lecturer about ray tracing

cinema

[south mist]

i can run DOOM: The Dark Ages Premium Edition on doom 2?

[green estuary]

if only

[swift peak]

If you're insane enough

[south mist]

prob just gonna play de and 16

[golden quarry]

What will happen if there was no doom tda

[obsidian shard]

It wouldn't exist

[slender night]

Nothing would happen

[green estuary]

many people would be very sad

[slender night]

The game hasn't been out long enough to cause a domino effect

Maybe the Hexen remaster wouldn't exist because I believe it was released due to TDA being medieval, but other than that, nothing

[south mist]

i would bust

[slender night]

?

[south mist]

the only doom game ive ever beaten

[obsidian shard]

I hope the DLC gets an official soundtrack

[hazy pasture]

We must keep our hopes up Sneaky...

We'll have it in the palm of our hands soon

[harsh egret]

id signature series merch wave 2 when?

which will surely come to the international store mhm mhm

[hazy pasture]

I suppose it'll be launched on May 15th...

[harsh egret]

they boutta just drop every piece of merch, dlc, ripatorium 3.0 AND ng+ on the same day

[hazy pasture]

They should drop an unannounced 2016 update too

[south mist]

is the de dlc worth it

[green estuary]

Would be so nice

[harsh egret]

i dont think anyone knows yet lol

[hazy pasture]

Tag 1 and Tag 2? Yeah if you seek more challenge the part 1 and if hammer then 2

[south mist]

whatever

whichever

[golden quarry]

There's a actually a song called Doom (doom 13 times) by dan bull and actually a song related to doom guy

[golden quarry]

Is doom 9039

[hazy pasture]

?

Are you asking when Doom is set in?

[south mist]

nah

[chilly needle]

I hope they retcon alot of the lore in TDA. It started going downhill on TAG. Loved the lore for 2016 and most eternal. But TDA needs retconned bad

[harsh egret]

bro can we actually not make this general chat 2 lol

[harsh egret]

any examples of what u disagreed with?

[frail bloom]

Ye nothing in tda was egregious

[harsh egret]

ye idk what was so bad lol

[chilly needle]

The fact that the slayer dies i think is ridiculous. How the titans are portrayed and killed. The cosmic realm and the wraith being from there and seeming not as important and the "last soul" of the wraith thing

[obsidian shard]

All of it fits in really nicely with the rest of the lore so far, theirs a few iffy things but almost all of it is good

[frail bloom]

That first part is essential to having stakes and I will not have it retconned otherwise

[harsh egret]

i can only really agree with Thira being "the chosen one" or whatever which is kind of a bruh moment

[frail bloom]

Titans do seem weak but you see scores of them dead in Eternal, we now know why

[chilly needle]

Because of the crucibal

[frail bloom]

No brotato

[chilly needle]

Him dying is the worst thing to happen to doom

[south mist]

he came back

[frail bloom]

You mean in Doom 1 when he also died?

[chilly needle]

Cause if the blade is removed the titan can rise again

[south mist]

it doesnt matter that he died

[harsh egret]

what lol

[chilly needle]

But did he?

[south mist]

i mean he killed HIMsefl

[frail bloom]

You can think of it that way, as deimos floats above hell

[south mist]

he took out 3 gods with that yellow thingy

[chilly needle]

Was that ever confirmed? I always thought he didnt die when he went through the portal

[frail bloom]

Explain why there's 30 of them dead in eternal with no blade

Hm?

[harsh egret]

and i always thought he did die

[south mist]

HE DID DIE

[chilly needle]

I cant. Thats why I said I mostly loved lore in eternal

[south mist]

HE WENT THRO8UGH THE GATES OF HELL

[frail bloom]

Oh so eternal can retcon but not tda

[chilly needle]

I dint think he did

[obsidian shard]

The Slayer Doesn't Really "Die" as we see him come back to life (its cool)

Titans are portrayed similarly to Eternal, and We see them get resurrected by Enhanced Ahzrak - Crucible is a way to stop them from being Resurrected (Head Canon)

Cosmic Realm and Wraiths do tie in with the lore a bit but need to be fleshed out
ie-They didn't know their was other wraiths YET

[frail bloom]

I see how it is

[chilly needle]

Maybe I need to reread everything. But I got some issues with the current lore haha

[obsidian shard]

Also DLC can Explain more

[frail bloom]

Maybe you do need a deepdive yeah

Catch up

[chilly needle]

Im sure hoping. I mean regardless its amazing combat and we get to rip and tear demons so im happy

[harsh egret]

i dont think im mad with anything thats actually important in tda's story

[chilly needle]

Time to read lore and watch acid glow or skyrion

[chilly needle]

Im not mad. Just butt hurt haha

[frail bloom]

Or read m0no's comprehensive and wicked lore guide

[south mist]

me too

[frail bloom]

That puts everything nicely

Orderly

[south mist]

i mean all that matter is that the slayer wins

[frail bloom]

And he always will, in the end

[chilly needle]

Very true.And it's also important that doom is made for everyone, even though I have issues with it. The lore, at least doom is for everybody, not just catering for me

[frail bloom]

True dat

[chilly needle]

If my only issues are a few things with this story, I say that this game is still a ten out of ten

[frail bloom]

That's fair we all have things we dislike in some games

I don't really like the mech and dragon bits, they don't infuriate me but like they are barebones

[chilly needle]

I love the dragon, but the mec is just meh.

Not bad not good it's there though

[frail bloom]

Both needed a serious overhaul

More abilities

[chilly needle]

I'm cool with the dragon because I can still fly around.And land in spots and do combat

[frail bloom]

And the Atlan, imo should have had glory kills

Main gameplay I understand 101%

Nothing wrong there

But why does the big clunky Atlan not have big cool glorykills

There's only like 9 enemies on screen total

And they're all bipedal

Ok rant over

[chilly needle]

Atlan glory kills would've been epic

[desert sapphire]

Doom guy needs slugs for the shot gun

[golden quarry]

Stop yelling at me

[hazy pasture]

Bruh

[oak solstice]

it is

[real crater]

too op?

[south mist]

huh?

[green estuary]

nah, the holes in the demons would be too small

[swift peak]

why is the slayer dying ridiculous?

Seems pretty logical. He melts in acid

[chilly needle]

He's too angry to die. The whole concept of him dying in TDA makes him less than what he is especially after the divinity machine. It just takes the story down a slippery slope. The fact he can be "killed" makes him not as slayer like to me

[swift peak]

Thats not true at all.

[chilly needle]

Not saying his death wasnt "logical"

[swift peak]

That mostly stems from Hugo Martins fanfiction of DOOM, that hasn't been written into the game with the other writers

[chilly needle]

Sure is to me my dude

[swift peak]

well i don't really know how to say this kindly

your belief is wrong

[chilly needle]

I disagree. And no worries dude all friendly discussion. Feel free to disagree with me about anything and everything. Doom is for everyone of every belief and thoughts

[swift peak]

alright fair enough

[chilly needle]

Im gonna re read all the lore from 2016 to dark ages see if I missed anything.

[swift peak]

its not really said anywhere that rage enhances him iirc

Thats either a hugo martin fanfic moment or just pure fanon

[chilly needle]

Its kinda mentioned. Alot in 2016 and eternal make him seem like a demi god of rage to kill the demons.

[green estuary]

I mean rage enhances him like adrenaline enhances humans
because, y'know, he's a human
although obviously to a greater extent because he's been put in a machine and stuff

[chilly needle]

The slayer Testaments especially

[chilly needle]

And his ptsd

[swift peak]

slayer testaments are obviously biased

you can't really take any information at face value unless we see it firsthand because everything is written from the perspective of characters. Of course a demon is gonna make doomguy out to be a massive scourge to all of hell when he can very easily melt in lava

[chilly needle]

Well...yeah...thats the point of a character and character development

[swift peak]

wdym

[chilly needle]

Thats why lore exists

To establish that bias

Like the fire lord in avatar. He's portrayed to be a bad guy and he is that bad guy.

I aint got a degree in story or nothing dawg just my little doom thoughts. I know im probably the minority in thinking the cosmic realm was a bad idea but if it brings new players to doom than do it. Thats the great thing about doom is at the end of the day we all just be ripping and tearing together. Same results who cares how we get there. As long as demons die.

[obsidian shard]

He is too angry to die, Thats why he Basically "Respawned" in hell

Hell the Achievement is Called "Too Angry to Die"

[chilly needle]

I get that he "respawns". But he still "dies"...and then the whole resurrection thing...

[obsidian shard]

The Resurrection thing was a beacon (Which Hugo also says it was)
He Would've just respawned somewhere else

Kratos also Dies and he crawls out of "Hell"

The Slayer does the same thing

[chilly needle]

Just not a fan of the dying and resurrection thing. Especially for the doom slayer. I never played any god of war

It was never on Xbox

I dont think at least

[obsidian shard]

Its a classic character trope of "Rule of Cool"

Character Dies but they dont

It Shows even death cant hold them

[chilly needle]

Only thing I know about god of war is the comparisons mayo makes in his doom videos

[chilly needle]

I like that fact I just think it would be cooler if doom guy kills death himself or something. Its like death is still a weakness. I dont think he should die after the divinity machine. I completely understand if he would have died And been resurrected before the divinity machine.My biggest issue is he died after the divinity machine

Because hes suppose to be this primeval where only one can be in one dimension at a time. But he was killed by the green goo

[hearty edge]

wasnt the tether attached to his soul so he basically ripped his soul out

[obsidian shard]

Pretty sure the Explosion and ripping the tether out of him killed him
The Acid was more a Finish (The Old Ones are in the Acid and are fine but the Tether stops them)

Death isn't a weakness if he cant die, He just gets sent to hell

[chilly needle]

I dont think so but im gonna boot up tda soon and read up

[obsidian shard]

No, based on concept art it was directly attached to him.

[hearty edge]

ight

[chilly needle]

Ah ya you are right that explosion definitely killed him before the acid!

[chilly needle]

Why wouldn't he go to heaven?

[green estuary]

I actually don't think so

[chilly needle]

Is Urdak supposed to be the only heaven?

[green estuary]

it hurt him pretty bad but he was pretty clearly conscious when he sunk into the acid

[hearty edge]

i think urdak is the only supposed heaven and only the maykrs can be there

[chilly needle]

I was trying to figure that out watching the cut scene the other day

[green estuary]

because "heaven" and "hell" in the doom universe aren't analogous to their counterparts in our religions

[hearty edge]

and well nekravol kinda explains that every soul goes to hell and they start the purification process

[chilly needle]

So does everyone in existence go to hell when they die?

[chilly needle]

Duh

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-master-oogway-i-dont-know-gif-22592197

[chilly needle]

I didn't think it set every soul, though just people killed by demons and I would assume bad people or whatever

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1486511481187991647/phillip-bailey-zombie-slayer-0002-close-01.jpg?ex=69c5c533&is=69c473b3&hm=4e5d417a579a247c4c2dafbfc8af3c4c0a44fb618113b822d97e34af2666b8da&

Based upon the Zombie Slayer apperance it was directly attached to him too.

[hearty edge]

i forgot right

[chilly needle]

Dope how they get his zombie on the hud

[obsidian shard]

ALSO where he was stabbed by the Wraith is giant hole
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1486511694359298119/phillip-bailey-zombie-slayer-0000-mid-01.jpg?ex=69c5c565&is=69c473e5&hm=9819118a67f0fa3034272c6c5fe894ff25a71aa53a4ba64e152a1f37ae6ad854&

[chilly needle]

Harbor of souls is one of the best levels

[swift peak]

That would genuinely ruin the story

[hearty edge]

you could say he has some guts... huge guts

[obsidian shard]

Man 3 statue i want

• Zombie Slayer
• Ahzrak
• Serrat

At least the DOOM arena Board game comes with all 3 ig

Also Zombie Slayer Doesnt have the cape

[swift peak]

Doomguy not being able to die… why should we have any worry about any stakes?

[chilly needle]

I disagree my dude

[hearty edge]

that's why he looked kinda naked

[chilly needle]

Cause any stakes he overcomes

[green estuary]

but there are no stakes if he literally cannot be hurt or killed

[swift peak]

That’s how a protagonist works most of the time, by that logic Gordon Freeman shouldn’t be able to die either

[obsidian shard]

Ehhh gotta appreciate the armor design
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1486512362172321954/phillip-bailey-zombie-slayer-0006-back.jpg?ex=69c5c605&is=69c47485&hm=5e236d873d1c548b15541af916d35ed5b6eb362ee9024bdbdcbea474761b67e7&

[chilly needle]

Gordon Freeman isnt a demi god who went through the divinity machine

Doom guy not being able to die fits doom lore

[hearty edge]

why does he kinda have that tyrant build

[swift peak]

If doomguy can’t die why should I worry about anything in 2016? Or Eternal for that matter? Why should I fear any demon, or the priests, or the Khan Maykr, or even Davoth if they’re no threat to me, why should I have any concern about the story going south if nothing can be an issue?

You can have an unkillable protagonist if you focus on their mortality and humanity rather then just pure combat, but I don’t think we’re getting that anytime soon

[obsidian shard]

I do like how they kept the Zombified Leg from Zombie Slayer in Eternal

[chilly needle]

Yes, that's the whole point is that you don't have any fear of them.They have fear of you.The only thing they fear is, you

[swift peak]

It’s a two way path. You fear the demons because they’re a force of pure malevolence and are willing to throw millions of soldiers at you that are super powered and beyond anything even the worlds armies can handle and ravage worlds for fun

They fear you because you’re the only man to ever stand up against them in defiance and take them out, at first by pure luck and later being enhanced for the exact purpose of exterminating their race

[chilly needle]

The whole lore is he doesn't fear them though

[swift peak]

Kinda?

I think you’d fear death a little even if you willingly face it everyday, especially if the consequences are an infinite amount of people dying

[chilly needle]

Maybe he feared them in one and two, but definitely not after sixty four

[chilly needle]

Well, I mean, yeah, I would.But i'm not the doomslayer

Send me through the divinity machine after.I'm already a special operations, super soldier.And yeah, I would feel pretty darn invincible

[swift peak]

I honestly doubt that

Not to say fear towards the demons is his strongest emotion, but it’s one he probably has

[chilly needle]

Id say he has fear just not of demons. His rage is all he knows towards the demons.

[swift peak]

Agree to disagree

[chilly needle]

Absolutely brother

[twilit stone]

I'd say the only thing he fears is what happens if he actually loses

What will happen to those he's trying to keep safe from the demons' grasp

[chilly needle]

I can see that

[wintry forge]

I was today years old when I found out that the zombie Slayer didn’t have the coat…

[obsidian shard]

oh damn lol

[last geyser]

https://youtu.be/nheu2hKe50c?t=175&si=3iXxGPoWVFU5anA1

This part of wither and writhe goes so hard

Imo i think this theme wouldve fit someone like the dark lord better

[obsidian shard]

The Dark Lord Music was made by Andrew Hulshult

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[vernal star]

Does doom the dark ages have gyro aim yet?

[obsidian shard]

I Dont think so

[vernal star]

Damn

That's horrible

[obsidian shard]

what

[vernal star]

No gyro aim

It's horrible not to have it in an fps game

[obsidian shard]

not really

Only DOOM 1+2 and 64 have it

NONE of the Modern Games have it

[vernal star]

Yes really

It's frictionless mouse aim; I don't play fps game with the buttons on my keyboard. I use my mouse

Also I'm a real hater of aim assist

[obsidian shard]

Gyro is only available in Controllers/Handhelds

[vernal star]

Not to mention not needing back buttons explicitly is nice

[vernal star]

Yeah?

[obsidian shard]

Your saying you use mouse

[vernal star]

I'm meaning to say "when I use"

I don't use it often because it gets painful to use mnk but not when I'm using gyro

[vernal star]

Also I use this as a point because analog stick aim is just button aim

Except with variability and aim assist existing

(To compensate for the lack of variability look towards the wooting 60HE with its analog buttons to gain such function)

[stuck basalt]

i will eat you

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1430735344609001514/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_1.gif

[vernal star]

Just look up "joystick for keyboard" -> images -> look at second image

It's should be labeled as from Etsy

https://youtu.be/nvO_Wr5_uTQ?si=weaOM8mu__lk7OY1

or this

Be mad about it if you like but it's an unescapable truth

[obsidian shard]

What is?

[vernal star]

Analog stick aim is button aim

Just with extra steps

[obsidian shard]

ok, But analog is lot smoother

[vernal star]

Yup

[obsidian shard]

so i dont understand the argument your making

[vernal star]

Somebody here said "i will eat you"

[obsidian shard]

Yes

Mancubi do that

[vernal star]

So I made it more clear with visuals

[fading bone]

this was definitely one of the conversations of all time

[ancient atlas]

So

[obsidian shard]

indeed

[hazy pasture]

Indeed

Also greetings to folks

[obsidian shard]

DLC Google Doc has been updated, more Digestable

Also removed he 10 billion different "Combat will be he same but also can be different"

Combat, Ripatorium 3.0 and Lore got cleaned

Exploration is still the same

[ancient atlas]

After replaying 2016 i've come with thoughts that dlc might be more fun and harder in exploring way like 2016 was

Finding secrets in doom 2016 is way harder than eternal and tda

[obsidian shard]

I think it'll be a mix

THe 2016 Secrets are a bit Tedius

(could be just me)

[wintry forge]

Cuz it’s crouching in the vents 😭

(Bring back crouching rn)

One thing about 2016 that I like is how much of the linear paths had alternate routes. Especially the interior levels. Take Res Ops for example. Many different ways to enter the objective rooms

[obsidian shard]

[wintry forge]

Same with Bfg Complex and Lazarus. Lots of vent exploration too

[wintry forge]

It baffles me to remember that 2016 had crouching. I couldn’t even fathom pressing C in TDA and crouching to progress

[ancient atlas]

Yeah it kinda reminds me og resident evil level design

It has many backtracking with variety of paths you could choose after some progress you made

[hearty edge]

did someone say gyro

[vernal star]

Not like that

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-bebop-spike-spiegel-confused-gif-23201772

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-steel-ball-run-nyo-ho-gif-13878017620651848590

[ancient atlas]

Ngl crouching is like very very specific niche mechanic that player uses super rarely in exploring and final boss fight lol

[hearty edge]

i never used crouching against the spider mastermind ngl

[vernal star]

Gyro aim, gyroscopic aim, or motion sensor aim

Is a process in which a player uses a minimum of 3 axis IMU (inertial measurement unit) control the angle of perspective in a game

Blah blah blah technical mumbo jumbo

[ancient atlas]

Imagine playing shooters like doom with gamepad

[obsidian shard]

Gamepad???

Wtf is Gamepad?

[ancient atlas]

|Insert a joke about vibrating gamepad|

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/context-context-hat-i-require-context-soyjak-wojak-gif-11496174374422496290

[ancient atlas]

nah

[wintry forge]

Honestly I don’t mind having the option. Even if it’s pointless, having more mobility options sometimes makes it feel more satisfying

Again, I don’t care, and I don’t think Doom TDA should have it, but just having the option in 2016 or a slower paced game in general is kinda satisfying

[ancient atlas]

Sure but almost useless options are might be a problem because they requires a button(s) on your device

Idk why they decided to make slow walk option with shift button

It just never been used

[wintry forge]

That’s fair. Although I’m on pc tho so input options aren’t really an issue for me. But definitely, another huge reason to remove it in Eternal bc that’s the Dash now lol

[vernal star]

Well as noted somewhere in the past here

Gyro aim is frictionless mouse aim

Aim assist; don't need it, don't want it, in fact I'm a hater of it (and as a result I have a dislike of controller players since most rely on it)

[fading bone]

lol

i didnt realize the gyro aim vs aim assist conflict was so hot

[obsidian shard]

didnt even know it existed

Gyro only works on like 50 games

I'm a controller play btw

(since you "Hate" them)

[vernal star]

It's real

You got quite a situation too. People who realize it's quality and people who say shit like "I don't want to stand" or "I don't want to have to shake my controller" acting as if it's like the Wii and more over the Wii ads

[vernal star]

It depends

Do you like aim assist?

[obsidian shard]

I dont like or dislike it

its their for a reason

[vernal star]

If you could leave it behind for something better without needing to switch input would you?

Also aim assist as a mechanic for so long has been broken

[vernal star]

Only when I switched to gyro and got used to it did I realize how broken aim assist was

[obsidian shard]

I would have to try the "Better" product before Switching

In Gyro's case, its not neccesarily better, its different, its prefrence

[ancient atlas]

I feel like controller doesn't allow player to have a best experience in shooters like Doom. In the games like RE series it works perfectly cause it's core gameplay straight attached to it.

[vernal star]

I mean yeah aim assist is better than mnk so like yeah I guess so

But of course you have to know what it is you're doing with aim assist to get the most out of it

[vernal star]

Yes this is true

[fading bone]

why does it matter if someone is using aim assist or not in single player games

[vernal star]

I'll make it a little more clear I've been reported for cheating from using it

[obsidian shard]

Meh, all of em are really well done on controller, Eternal is def the hardest of the 3 but extremely duable and fun to learn on Controller

[vernal star]

Matters for multiplayer

Also good point we should have aim assist on mnk for single player games it's weird how it isn't there (I'm not being sarcastic with that)

[obsidian shard]

I do not play multiplayer games as i do not have the time, Hence why I play DOOM

[vernal star]

Mm

Well I can tell you this it's like being free

[fading bone]

what games do you play where ppl can use aim assist against ppl who also dont use it

[ancient atlas]

I mean in terms of learning quick swapping teches eternal is impossible for controllers

[vernal star]

Insert any crossplay title ever (not literally all but most)

[green estuary]

crossplay online multiplayer shooters

[fading bone]

like what cod?

[green estuary]

cod, apex legends, battlefield

et cetera

[vernal star]

Fortnite, the finals, arc raiders, marathon

There plenty more

[obsidian shard]

Ive done it, Murican Eagle (as much as i dont like the guy) and DeadKey are both Legendary Controller players that do quickswap

[fading bone]

idk ive never seen those games as being serious with competitive integrity to care about playing vs ppl with aim assist

[ancient atlas]

I heard apex pro players were switching to controllers because aim assist

[vernal star]

Yes like all of them did

[green estuary]

yeah usually aim assist is so good that it's actually easier than m&kb

[obsidian shard]

pretty much
Apex Aim Assist (when i last played in Season 10) was ABSURD

[ancient atlas]

I see

[obsidian shard]

Its like beating UN Dark Ages on Max Sliders

It Is Possible

[vernal star]

Here's a really short clip I have of gyro

https://youtu.be/BH-O2EcE2ZY?si=2sd7XCZkDmUps5SV

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-controller-zyzz-aim-assist-controller-detected-opinion-rejected-controller-opinion-gif-23171981

[green estuary]

(I rarely ever play online multiplayer games, and if I do, it's always with keyboard and mouse)

[ancient atlas]

Same

[gusty seal]

the meme was meant to agreee, like kb&m ❤️

[green estuary]

I usually just enjoy single player shooters more

[ancient atlas]

Didn't try any un but i believe you

[vernal star]

I have more but it should get across why it's pretty good in one go

[obsidian shard]

DUDE, Only ONE Person (to my Knowledge) has beaten it, Everything has to be perfect, And its 80% Skipping the game

[ancient atlas]

The hardest thing with max sliders are unironically first levels

[gusty seal]

max slider UN run
https://tenor.com/view/fighting-gif-25178396

[green estuary]

mostly because my favorite online games are all arena shooters where everyone's absolutely insane because they've been playing for 18 million years
and when I finally play them long enough for me to actually not get dumpstered on immediately, I lose all that skill because I take like a week off from the game

[ancient atlas]

500% damage to player is no joke

[vernal star]

One thing I see not enough of is mnk players not talking about gyro aim when they complain about aim assist

I see from people who know about gyro but they just don't

[green estuary]

200 damage imp stalker melee lunges, anyone?

[hazy pasture]

It was Mr Hyper...

[obsidian shard]

Yup Hyperousion

[hazy pasture]

Nah make it Nightmare imps

[green estuary]

their melee deals the same damage

[obsidian shard]

I'm Updating my Car

[obsidian shard]

Yes, but they are Invisible

[gusty seal]

does ur exhaust have two manc cannons?

[obsidian shard]

No comment

[vernal star]

Wait do you play on Xbox/with a 1st party Xbox controller?

[obsidian shard]

yes

[green estuary]

almost as concerning is the fact that komodo fireballs deal 90 damage on 500%

[obsidian shard]

You have to use first party

[vernal star]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[gusty seal]

wait real life car?

[obsidian shard]

yes

[gusty seal]

then get the cannons man

[obsidian shard]

Welp im dead

[vernal star]

No IMUs on Xbox controllers

You literally cannot do it unless you get a different controller and don't play on Xbox

[obsidian shard]

Xbox no longer lets you use third party controllers

[obsidian shard]

IMU?

[vernal star]

Inertial Measurement Unit

Accelerometer, gyroscope, magnetometer

All are IMUs

[green estuary]

also lets hope you never miss a parry on a baron
because each of their melee attacks deal 225 damage

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-watchu-mean-flight-gif-8854434135996491175

Ummm Excuse me what in the actual freak

[vernal star]

Just keep in mind that if a controller says it has a "motion sensor in it" that doesn't mean it has the right kind

Accelerometers just detect movement not necissarily any nuance with said movement; it's typically used for thing like raise to wake

[green estuary]

ye on 100% damage they deal 45, so on 500% it's 225

[vernal star]

Gyroscope is what you need to be looking for specifically

The rest are the to help maintain calibration

[green estuary]

I actually think cosmic barons are the hardest hitting enemies in the whole game

[hazy pasture]

Interesting... gotta keep my distance

[vernal star]

It's something Nintendo does, PS does, and can be done on PC

Literally anything but Xbox

[hazy pasture]

And also very unpredictable behaviour as well

[green estuary]

the little fake melee swing they do pisses me off to no end

[obsidian shard]

oh damn

[hazy pasture]

Gotta ragebait somehow

[vernal star]

Yeah Xbox has been part of the reason why gyro aim hasn't taken off btw

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/you-idiot-thats-not-a-gyro-avgn-rob-rob-the-robot-gyro-gif-23257833

[vernal star]

It's the lowest common denominator of balance and with people who use mnk they will just quit or if you break them down enough psychologically they will switch

And of course devs can just essentially copy paste COD layout (square/X = reload/use, triangle/Y = weapon switch, circle/B = crouch/dash, cross/X = jump, bumpers = specials and throwables, etc) and then call it a day

[slender night]

Tbf that's not a bad layout

[vernal star]

Not saying it is

Just noting it's easier to not implement good unique tech on any given platform

And with the COD layout usually comes with some sort of COD esque aim assist solution for sticks

Which like with gyro aim

You just don't need to develop that tech. You just use gyro aim instead (not to say you don't use sticks with gyro aim just that you don't use them as a key element in your aim)

Mind you

PS has been able to do this gyro aim thing since 2013

[vernal star]

Insert something here about normalizing bad/poorer inputs that result in more people not enjoying games to their fullest extent

Also because of gyro aim

With a game like warthunder I have around 140 binds and none of them interrupt my aiming process

All on controller

Also

Gyro as cursor is really good
https://youtu.be/Q-sfkFlZDZ0?si=sqz1ZfuVjcfUx569

Had to get my bearings for this one because no mans sky is more casual and its sensitivity for cursor function doesn't go as high as I'd like lol

[outer vault]

Beat the game on ultra nightmare

[random sand]

Nice

[fading bone]

Nice

[twilit stone]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[gusty seal]

nice

[dusty cloak]

To buy or not to buy that is the question also would it be abuse to my laptop with 4GB Vram and an RTX 3050 to run dark ages???

[random sand]

A little

[dusty cloak]

But with my graphics card and 24 GB RAM I can run it right??

[random sand]

That'll do yeah. Laptops generally are less powerful tho even if the specs are high. But it should work

[dusty cloak]

Ok then I'll buy it

But I still need to finish doom eternal😭

[hazy pasture]

It's gonna run just fine on low settings

[dusty cloak]

Will it look buns on low??

[hazy pasture]

iirc you'll be getting 50 atleast (since 6gb vram 3050 gives 60-70 fps on low)

[hazy pasture]

Nah it still looks great

[dusty cloak]

I can live with it

As long as I can enjoy it

[hazy pasture]

You can set DLSS to balanced or ultra balanced in order to reduce pressure on your gpu

[dusty cloak]

Alright

[hazy pasture]

You'll be getting stuttering issues rarely

But that'll be negligible tbh

[dusty cloak]

Ok I can live with it

[hazy pasture]

I can't say about handheld settings but that'll surely let you get 60 fps consistently

[dusty cloak]

At least, that's more than enough

[hazy pasture]

Tbf you can run TDA on medium settings too but that'll heat your laptop up really quickly

If you got a cooling pad then you're good to go mate!

[dusty cloak]

No cooling pad unfortunately

I'll invest in getting one soon but thank you for the Insight

[hazy pasture]

Well you got 32gb (DDR5 I suppose) ram so you're good to go either way

It'll run smoothly on medium too imo

[dusty cloak]

Great stuff to hear now I'll definitely buy it

[flat elm]

Is the mancubus' flamethrowers also quickly drains shield's health like cyberdemon/arachnotron's hit-scan attack?

[random sand]

from my experience it looks like that one actually goes through the shield. either that or it adds some sorta burn effect

[outer vault]

From my experience you shouldn’t try to be close to a mancubus

[hazy pasture]

Nah shield bash and be ready to parry the ground slam that'll hit you like a truck

[random sand]

Worst part about that one is the fucker sometimes does it twice

[fading bone]

just stun him and run up to him and shoot him in the face with some SSG and melee and move on to the next

or stun him and heatblast him

[random sand]

I ususally shield bash him, parry his attack and shoot him with the ssg

[fading bone]

also possible

[hazy pasture]

Well tbh saving the kick for him and parry + kick feels really satisfying

[frosty roost]

morning

[hazy pasture]

Duelist upgrade is just that good if someone likes to combo kill

[fading bone]

i like to use them as ricochet sources

[hazy pasture]

Morning Marshal!

[fading bone]

just melts everything around him

[hazy pasture]

• Hell Knights + Cacos

[fading bone]

• everythi g

i just ricochet everything

its so busto

[hazy pasture]

iirc in one of the TDA preview vids back in March of last year, someone shield stunned Cybie

[hazy pasture]

True

[hazy pasture]

If that was possible back in the beta build then the removal of the stun would make sense cuz that would just break the game

[random sand]

I always used the other upgrade because it's instant damage rather than over time. Maybe i'll check that one out tho

[hazy pasture]

Pincushion...

[fading bone]

ricochet is also instant

[random sand]

I don't remember their names. Only upgrade name i remember is Lobotomy because it's funny

[fading bone]

its actually faster because the damage is applied the whole time instead of all at once after charging it up

[random sand]

Noted

That gun is probably the one i use least but maybe i'll give it a go

I think that one and the grenade launcher are the two i use the least

[outer vault]

It’s just not worth it

You can install kill him if you can find some fodder to kill with the saw

Otherwise I wouldn’t shield bash

[hazy pasture]

You keep your distance, I love hitting combos

We aren't the same

[outer vault]

Is it clear I play on UN 😭

[hazy pasture]

I do too

[outer vault]

I see

[hazy pasture]

I can just kick enforcer manc to oblivion and use the fourth strike on a super heavy for the heavy falter

At least when it's a relatively empty arena

Mostly heavies are there for ricochet/cycler charge build up

[outer vault]

My favorite coward strategy is to use the impaler and dread mace

[hazy pasture]

Parry + charged shot + parry + dreadmace ahh

[outer vault]

It’s a coward strat for a reason

It works pretty well though

[hazy pasture]

Hmm try this then

[golden quarry]

😟

[hazy pasture]

Combat shotgun triple shot x2 + parry + 3 gauntlet combo + RL blood sacrifice x1(splash damage is good) + parry + fourth gauntlet strike(switch to dreadmace) + SSG

[outer vault]

It’s not a blood sacrifice is it?

It would trigger the cannibalism upgrade

[hazy pasture]

Blood sacrifice triggers increased splash damage

[outer vault]

Oh that one

[hazy pasture]

Cannibalism is triggered when you're low on health

[outer vault]

I thought you meant take damage

[hazy pasture]

Nuh uh

[real flume]

I got the game yesterday,.. any tips on basic combat? Should I stand still and dodge when needed? I’m so used to doom 2016 so I keep running and jumping 😭

[hazy pasture]

Don't ever stand still and wait for the time to dodge

Imp stalker projectiles got minor tracking behaviour

Try to use your shield as much as possible

Parrying, blocking, throwing and bashing

Most of the heavy class demons falter when hit with shield bash except for the mancubus so keep that in mind

And keep sprinting in the arena always

[real flume]

Thanks!

[rich hill]

Anyone got the save games for DOOM TDA? Either completed or near chapter 20?

[hearty edge]

dlc where

[hard thistle]

dlc how

[swift peak]

They actually had the DLC done a few months ago but I DM’d Hugo and told them to hold back and redo it

[fading mason]

dlc who

[chilly needle]

Live stream tonight homies

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-loltyler1-screaming-dead-wtf-gif-17500255

[hard thistle]

Fr though. Hugo keeps saying he has been playing the dlc. so it's basically ready. they're just delaying it to build up hype and starvation 😩

[rich hill]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laff-tv-eyes-puss-in-boots-puppy-dog-2aw9gwZlltbdX92b4w

[golden quarry]

Who owns this server btw

[chilly needle]

I assumed bethesda

[slender night]

A Bethesda employee

[heady trout]

John Bethesda

[tacit glen]

Holy crap i just opened the ripatorium tab for the first time. Im gonna be so busy later lmao

[chilly needle]

Theres alot in there thats good

Dang no stream tonight

[elder raven]

there is? i thought

oh nvm just saw announcements

[tacit glen]

Im very excited to try the dante melee and shield only map that looks so amazing

[chilly needle]

Ya Josh posted it not too long ago. Its a bummer I look forward to those. No biggie now I can focus on ripping and tearin

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chuddy-chudjak-chudda-ukraine-gif-4845041186562827445

No stream

Hm

Hmmmm

Hmmmmmmmm

[chilly needle]

You got me wondering

[frail bloom]

Yes hmmm

Today is that March showcase, I'm not saying it's dlc related

Did that already happen btw

[harsh egret]

yes

its third party showcase like i said

[frail bloom]

Ah

Ok mild hmmm instead of big hmmm

Bummer

[harsh egret]

if they r playing ripatorium and ultrakill next week i highly doubt anything dlc related will happen lol

[chilly needle]

I get mild hmm packets from taco bell

Instead of the spicy hmms

[frail bloom]

Fascinating

[chilly needle]

We just need a release date

[harsh egret]

do we

[chilly needle]

Yes

We do

[harsh egret]

im chilling knowing they are taking their time instead focusing on making it good

[frail bloom]

Horce jumpscare

[harsh egret]

horce

horce mode gaming

[frail bloom]

Fak it I'm not changing jt

[warm ibex]

If they gave us a release date, what would the TDA chat have to complain about?

[frail bloom]

History is history

[green estuary]

horse mode gaming

[warm ibex]

you guys gotta start thinking big. the less we know, the more we have to bitch about

[green estuary]

That the release date isn’t tomorrow

[gilded summit]

What's happening?

[harsh egret]

DLC IS RELEASING IN 20 MINUTES

QUICK TELL EVERYONE

[frail bloom]

OHH MY GAWS

Oh My DAZE

[chilly needle]

Ya I dont need details I just need the release date haha

[warm ibex]

so you mean it's not releasing in 10 minutes 😒

smh

[green estuary]

typical id

[warm ibex]

worst game ever made 🙄

[chilly needle]

Id like to see a Bruce Campbell cameo i think that'd be neat. It'd fit in well with the dark ages like a army of darkness thing

[obsidian shard]

Where's my Entitled Release Date that id owes me?????

[gilded summit]

That would be so peak

[chilly needle]

Or maybe an ash and doom guy colab somehow. Not in a game but like a short story on YouTube kinda thing.

[warm ibex]

he needs to voice a villain at some point. He did an awesome job in the most recent episode of Invincible

[chilly needle]

Spoilers haha. I didn't know hes in the new incineabke season? I was gonna wait till all the episodes came out and binge watch

[chilly needle]

Him as a villain would be epic. Come on hugo

[last geyser]

Hugo has to show a concept art of a new enemy next week to make up for not streaming today

[frosty roost]

honestly I'd rather wait, let them take their time and cook with the dlc

i hate anything rushed

[chilly needle]

Ya we dont need anything rushed. It could come out next year i jisy like to know when so I can take off work and play non stop

[warm ibex]

he was in the final episode of the last season 😅

[chilly needle]

Who was he?

Now I gotta rewatch

[frosty roost]

also, dispatch is arriving in summer!!

[frosty roost]

I'll move this into #general

[warm ibex]

The demon Damian Darkblood talks to in one of the final scenes

[chilly needle]

Holy crap I had no idea.

Makes sense.

Instead of being a viltrumite or anything else

I learn so much in these chats

[solar spoke]

Bruce Campbell is the goat, who would chat fancast him as for a Doom adaptation?

[slender night]

Jack Campbell

I mean, come on. They're both badasses. And they share a surname. It's hard to pass by on this

[obsidian shard]

The fact they even stream and talk to us is good enough

[chilly needle]

I dont know any other game director that does the stuff hugo does

[solar spoke]

Personally I'd jokingly cast him as VEGA. Imagine having his sarcastic banter in your ear for tutorials like in Spider-Man 2

aw no stream, is he still doing Ultrakill next week?

[wintry forge]

Perfection

[solemn snow]

Duude what a hit in the jewels to learn there's no stream today. I blame the Khan Maykr

[chilly needle]

That would be really cool. To have Bruce Campbell as your AI guide

[fiery coral]

Giving away an Xbox Series X! Anyone interested, just drop me a message. Let’s make someone’s day epic.

[stone pasture]

Is there any stream of doom, don't see any schedule

[frail bloom]

No unfortunately

[spiral crow]

Streets are saying no stream this week, is it true?

[slender night]

Yes #announcements

[stuck basalt]

no stream today bcs of dlc prob

mustt be working like hell

[rich hill]

anyone?

[warm ibex]

You probably could've made your way through half the campaign in the time between your initial message and this one

[ancient atlas]

with cutscene skips probably

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-gif-15112361227290036695

[rich hill]

i could've, yes.... but i still gotta try

guess i'll set my damage to 1000% and the campaign go brrr

[ancient atlas]

why so

[rich hill]

i already played 90% of it

doing everything

exploring every nook and crany

[crude kraken]

i want the 100% for the game i got a 100% save file twice but the melee expert achievement wont trigger anyone got a fix?

[obsidian shard]

This is a PS Issue atm

[crude kraken]

weird, ive got it on steam

[obsidian shard]

Hugo clarified last stream that it has something to do with PS Servers

its been patched like twice, Their should be another fix in the next update for it

[crude kraken]

hopefully, im running through the game on pandemonium atm crossing my fingers itll trigger this time

[rich hill]

Would you mind handing over your save files?

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/vivid-stasis-vivid-stasis-saturday-geology-gif-9323292548505317921

[rich hill]

Send me there please

[rich hill]

Seems like a cool place

[crude kraken]

i have no idea how to pull save files

[rich hill]

Hand it over. That thing - your saves

https://tenor.com/view/slave-knight-gael-dark-souls3-ringed-city-gif-24181378

[crude kraken]

you can pull them from my cold dead hands

[rich hill]

Tch, it's trash

@tender steppe

Help me out!

We gonna jump him

[haughty idol]

Keyboard and mouse support on console when

Every game but doom got it at ts point

[warm ibex]

play the damn game man

[tender steppe]

oml I got scared dude 😭

[hearty edge]

how do you even do that

[rich hill]

I have 😭

[rich hill]

Do what?

[hearty edge]

hand over the saves

[rich hill]

Ah that, he gives me his save files, and his steamid, i resign the steamid of his saves into mine and paste it into my save location

Any save would've worked from the internet but idsoftware bind the saves to the steamid

And I don't know those of random people on the internet who posted their 100% saves

[swift peak]

What are the chances that the DLC silksongs us

[random sand]

Wdym by that. Drops outta nowhere?

[swift peak]

No it becomes a new game

[random sand]

Doubtful but who knows

[frosty roost]

okay let's not do this please??

[warm ibex]

genuinely zero percent

[frosty roost]

hi horde!

[warm ibex]

hi marshal 😀

[swift peak]

how come?

[unkempt dragon]

I'm sorry that yours got deleted but we don't allow people asking for other members to send their files on here. If you friend one another and do it in dm's that's your business. But do not ask random members in here for their game saves or anything that belongs to them.

[rich hill]

Was just goin with the flow. Sorry😅 but I've decided to restart my playthrough. Might be a bit interesting at the very least

[unkempt dragon]

It happens to most of us at some point unfortunately. Just chalk it up to more practice.

[rich hill]

Yeah let's not

[warm ibex]

they promised DLC that many have already fully paid for. They would likely be required to offer mass-refunds if they decided to turn a post launch expansion into a full AAA title, and I can't imagine that would ever be approved by any of the studios/companies that own id

[rich hill]

I apologized 😭

[swift peak]

oh okay

[elder raven]

doom the dark ages’s dlc is big (probably) but not game sequel worthy. the next game, if doom, will either:

1. continue the slayer’s journey as he hunts samur down

2. continue the medieval/dark ages saga

more likely option is two

[spiral crow]

Well even if they turned it into it's own game, that's what happened with Dying Light 2's second DLC, the DLC became so big that they made it into it's own title but those who were promised that DLC were given the game for free when The Beast came out

For those who owned the Deluxe Edition of the game

[warm ibex]

That's a fair point, but I just can't see them doing that. There's no reason to imo

[spiral crow]

I know just wanted to bring that up if they decide to do that but like you said there's no reason to

[obsidian shard]

Real, also just doesnt make sense

[spiral crow]

Because then they would have to design a new menu, and somehow port ripatorium on it and so on and so forth in short it's a drag

[twilit stone]

civile ware

[green estuary]

A new menu theme song + background would be nice

[spiral crow]

Background would be nice, i liked that option in eternal where you can change it depending where you are in the story

[narrow swift]

great i have to spend 500$ or more for a DAM raytraceing

Gpu

[hearty edge]

aint 2060s like less than 200 bucks

even like 3070s are like 250-300 no?

[real crater]

just finished every mission with 100% completion

now all i need to do is master the weapons for that platinum trophy (that exists in my mind because xbox doesnt have them)

[ancient atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1449008222605414593/1486892327237845183/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2026.03.27_-_03.29.53.08.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=69c727e3&is=69c5d663&hm=434a05f9dc3c3b682817e52a4779f4b5090058606a672d15dcd985e1dc1460fe&

almost fucking died cause whiplash didn't enter stun state during attack animation

[twilit stone]

whiplashes fucking suck in this game bruh

[ancient atlas]

that's probably a bug but yeah they sometimes are too annoying

[swift peak]

I’ve seen varying prices

Mine was $200, seen people say they were $500, some others said they were $100

[hearty edge]

idk bout no bugs i hate them no matter what

a glass cannon shouldn't be more tanky than a mancubus

[hearty edge]

i love no slow mo

also i love how that combo on the aggadon hunter was like on sync with the music

[ancient atlas]

siege 1 theme is just the best

[obsidian shard]

Unholy Siege

Which is also part of Siege pt 2

[hearty edge]

holy siege when

heavenly chasm

[obsidian shard]

Chained Prey

[twilit stone]

out of the void

[thorn mango]

Shadows long

[real crater]

how do you like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1370590894088130560/1486912731742208081/b483bdfa-8332-4fab-a384-d2f23f279192.mov?ex=69c73ae4&is=69c5e964&hm=593bf9a07c7a96ff3f6c992c516f895ec6bb9dcf6826fb0ed2fc49bbf7dcf3c1&

this was recorded june last year btw so forgive the cardinal sin of blue parry attacks and no face

[hearty edge]

lowk the melee with the most aura is the flail

even tho it's the worst imo

[real crater]

no other moment of me playing doom has come close to matching that clip

the only moment that might beat it is me finishing ultra nightmare if i ever do

[obsidian shard]

"Explain the Cosmic Realm"

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-lovecraftian-so-peak-its-so-peak-gif-4772919217539645685

[hearty edge]

the fact that u have it recorded is majestic

[real crater]

thank god for xbox constantly recording your gameplay

[haughty idol]

Quake

[hearty edge]

tentacles

and green

and some VERY cool puzzles

[fleet spruce]

Just your average dimension of horrors beyond comprehension

in other words: Into the Void

[twilit stone]

aka: "We don't want to make Quake"

[fleet spruce]

Quake is... either brown or green depending on who you ask

I personally at this point just hope for a Quake 4 remaster with new expansion

[unkempt dragon]

I made a new emoji for y'all

Enjoy

[silent trail]

Has anyone else ever notice that if you open the map in front of the wraith stone statue and close it, it will briefly say "I am a slayer gate"?

[fading bone]

?

got a screenshot?

[slender night]

I remember seeing a video about that sometime in November

As in a recording

[warm ibex]

it's so peak

[flat elm]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-AU/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-2-release-notes
“Mancubus: The Mancubus and Armored Mancubus now correctly stop firing projectiles from a severed right arm"
I didn't know that, I wonder if this also apply to flamethrowers

If you do that, the mancubus also stops fire from the not severed left arm?

[rich hill]

oi @tender steppe you get me into doom and then drop it yourself

you're the worst

calling it your top 3 then not playing it eh

[tender steppe]

wdym

I do play 2016 sometimes 😭

[fading bone]

[hazy pasture]

[rich hill]

move on to eternal

[vapid lodge]

Was there a stream last night?

[hazy pasture]

Nah

They'll be streaming next week

[vapid lodge]

I wonder why

Cmon with that DLC

I cant wait

[hazy pasture]

I nuked the DLC that's why they were busy finding the emergency save file

[twilit stone]

Maybe the dlc is the friends we made along the way

[fleet spruce]

DLC scrapped, they will just release Doom 4 as DLC for Dark Ages

[random sand]

How could you

[tidal crane]

🫪

[last geyser]

Why doesnt doomguy just drink the ancestral blood instead of empowering his shield with it

Is he dumb

[heady trout]

true

https://tenor.com/view/chug-chugging-drinking-oj-gif-20256641

[weak roost]

How can I optimize using the sheild mechanism on Playstation?

[solid nacelle]

On xbox I rebound shield throw to the left stick and since then I think I've been playing a lot better with the shield

And I put jump in its place on left bumper

[weak roost]

I'll try that out

[flat elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X93Tc9nDYu8

[chilly needle]

I cannot get past the 2nd round in waltz of the archdemons on nightmare. Also I hate the acolytes

[neon gust]

which one is that again?

[chilly needle]

Its on the ripatorium. It think its the last one.

[hazy pasture]

Use BFC

Especially aim to hit the acolytes

If you're able to catch Barons in the radius then bingo

[fading bone]

using BFC in ripatorium is BOOOOOOORING

[chilly needle]

I dont wanna cheese it with the bfc. Thats too easy.

I wanna do it the right way. Earn my stripes

[obsidian shard]

Your allowed

[hazy pasture]

Not using the BFC = make your own playstyle for that round

You better switch in between gauntlets and mace though if you wanna

Make the most use of cycler and shredder(ricochet)

[chilly needle]

Thanks for the permission

[chilly needle]

Second round has too much incoming fire so I dont think automatic weapons make as much sense. The main issue is those stupid worm dudes raining down purple goo on me. The maurauder got hate but I think the acolyte ruin the pacing of the game. I loved the marauder. Just my opinion

[hazy pasture]

You can literally stunlock the acolytes with your shield and exploit them as ricochet points

[chilly needle]

Yes im aware

Thats not the issue. The issue is how they are places in that round

And how they are implemented over all. Not too much of an issue in the base game though it still throws pacing off a bit.

[hazy pasture]

Each time the spawns are random so you'll have to keep that in mind

You'll be mostly occupied with the Barons after a few seconds so you won't be able to shift your focus towards the acolytes

[chilly needle]

Thats part of the problem is the Barron's come quick and the arachnotrons just shoot you so the shield breaks no matter what

[hazy pasture]

I would suggest you to keep your distance enough to be able to get at least one parryable projectile

[chilly needle]

While the goo rains upon you

[chilly needle]

🤣 ya im trying that strategy

Im running away alot but they always catch me hahaha.

[hazy pasture]

What's the Shield Rune you're using?

[chilly needle]

I mainly use the swords.

I tried running through them. Trying to find combos that work.

[hazy pasture]

Switch to heaven splitter to get the window for the double mace swing on the super heavies

[chilly needle]

Hmmm I like that ill definitely try that! Good idea my dude

[hazy pasture]

As for the gauntlets save the kick and fourth strike

They cause heavy falter

[chilly needle]

Ive been using the mace and flail. I never use the gaunlets

[hazy pasture]

You should use RL with Blood Sacrifice more

[hazy pasture]

Flail🥀 it's good for breaking armor but that's it

[chilly needle]

Ive never experiment with that mod. Ill definitely try it

[chilly needle]

Thats why I like it.

[hazy pasture]

SSG can do that too

[chilly needle]

Well mainly cause it looks and feels dope

[chilly needle]

Ah ya you're right

[hazy pasture]

The no BFC run on the second round is gonna be literal hell for you mate

[chilly needle]

I choose the path of perpetual torment.

[hazy pasture]

It took me 65 tries with no BFC

[chilly needle]

🤣 oh man. Im catching up to you.

[hazy pasture]

It was on 200% dmg on player and 50% damage on demons though

I'll do an UN difficulty run through it later

[hazy pasture]

I would suggest using Accelerator a bit more than you've ever used

Accelerator is a must for 1v1s

Heatblast deals heavy falter too

[chilly needle]

I tried using it against the kreed maykyr last nightmare. Definitely one i dont use enough or experiment with

[chilly needle]

Post it dawg id love to see it

[hazy pasture]

Usually I'm busy with work and personal projects so I rarely get time to play games professionally

I'll surely do once I upgrade my PC

[chilly needle]

Heck ya my dude. Ya videos take forever to make

[hazy pasture]

In a 1v1, combo gauntlets with SSG/RL(Blood Sacrifice)/Accelerator

Make sure to shield throw and get harvest charge

[hazy pasture]

Oh you mean edit and stuff? I would become a yt guy atp

[hazy pasture]

And Impaler as well

[chilly needle]

Im trying to get mine going. Its hard to find time to edit and learn though with full time job and being a dad. Any free time latley ive just been playing doom haha

[chilly needle]

Love the impaler

Ive started using the shredder on bosses

[hazy pasture]

That's awesome man

[hazy pasture]

Pincushion I believe?

[chilly needle]

Yes sir

It works great on most bosses except enhanced azhrak

[hazy pasture]

Pre nerf Ravager was insane

You could just stand, parry and barrage

[chilly needle]

Yes it was

[hazy pasture]

Once again, make sure to use impaler more

[chilly needle]

And its useless against armor

[hazy pasture]

And hit in between parry sequences

[chilly needle]

Ya I need to use that slow down time for head shots too

[hazy pasture]

Nothing that one SSG shot can't solve

[chilly needle]

It solves most my doom problems

[hazy pasture]

Chronospike grants increased damage only if you activate slow down

Salvage is more efficient since you can spam shield throw and get empowered shots

It's just that I like the look of Chronospikes

[chilly needle]

Same. I used that rune in eternal alot that slows down time cause my aim sucks

[hazy pasture]

Hmm you can replay the campaign on Nightmare or UN to earn more game sense

[chilly needle]

I only play on nightmare

Im doing a pandemonium run now to practice for UN

[hazy pasture]

Actually... Pandemonium is a bit harder than UN

[chilly needle]

Im a great player I cant beat any doom on UN. But I can easily play on nightmare

[chilly needle]

Whys that?

[random sand]

Literally how

[hazy pasture]

You can't acquire more Life Sigils after you've acquired 3

Pandemonium in TDA is different than the one in Eternal

In eternal you could stack em

In TDA you're capped to 3 and if you lose one and try to acquire another one, you can't

But in UN you can still acquire em normally

[hazy pasture]

Be my guest, the reasoning is here

[chilly needle]

But you dont get any lives in UN

[random sand]

That's wrong. In UN, they are shields. They don't give you extra lives

They give you armor

[chilly needle]

Pandemonium is bad when you have to restart a big exploring level

[hazy pasture]

Just checked, they're replaced with spirit armor

Hmm the wording should be that Pandemonium is more annoying based on the fact that sigils aren't stackable

[chilly needle]

Ya I wish it was like eternal and you could collect s whole bunch of them. Or at least that way for replays.

[hazy pasture]

iirc they're replaced with spirit armor so you gain back health too

[random sand]

i read what you wrote. just too busy to reply atm

[fading bone]

the challenge in pandemonium is that you only get max 3 lives

it would be too easy if you could just do it with as many sigils as possible

but yeah getting reset on nerathul on pandemonium over and over was my living hell lol

[chilly needle]

I meant the base game i want a more sigils

[hard thistle]

is there any point in using any melee weapon other than gauntlets? It has like no downsides. Sure, it's weaker against armor, but we have SSG for that. It's almost as strong as Mace, but factor in the super fash refill rate, and it's basically stronger than mace, cuz you can spam it

[chilly needle]

The ancestral forge for me haha

[fading bone]

gauntlets are indeed super good

[chilly needle]

I prefer flail or mace I dont like the gaunlet

[fading bone]

flail is garbo

mace is really good when you learn how to time it properly

[hard thistle]

flail is the weaksest

[chilly needle]

I like flail it gives me armor and breaks it

[hard thistle]

mace is the strongest, but like i said, charge time is too long

[fading bone]

the armor it gives is poopoo

[hard thistle]

the armor from flail is negligible

[chilly needle]

But it's the most aura farming, and that's why I love it The most

[hard thistle]

True. flail is the most aura farming melee

[fading bone]

understandable have a nice day

[chilly needle]

I doesnt have to give me alot of armor

[fading bone]

mace is good because you really only need it vs super heavies anyway once you get it

[chilly needle]

Hey man you have a better day

[fading bone]

so you dont need to have a lot of charges

your guns and runes are so busto by that time that you dont need to spam a ton of melee

[chilly needle]

Ya with the amount you perry I feel like the mace builds up quick

Plus theres melee ammo everywhere

[fading bone]

yeah lots of melee ammo, and the double hit is just so broken

[hard thistle]

yeah, but i do enjoy the back and forth i have with super heavies. and throwing in a fist punch every here and there. makes it feel like a brawler game

[fading bone]

it is very satisfying

but so is BONK

[hard thistle]

especially with no slowmo

with mace, they just die too fast, and you don't get to enjoy the battle

[fading bone]

i enjoy bonking them

[hard thistle]

i had melee switching mapped to semething, but realized i wasn't really ever switching from gauntlets, so i just unmapped it. Rune switching on the otherhand, is pretty fun. cuz i'm constantly switching between all the runes(except ground fissure)

maybe the upcoming dlc might give a reason for melee switching

[fading bone]

i actually really like ground fissure

[hard thistle]

but right now, i haven't seen a good reason

[fading bone]

i use it up until i have heaven splitter

its extremely satisfying and it actually deals a lot of damage and it actually does give some armor back

[hard thistle]

i hardly see it when it triggers. the effect is too small, and the color just blends with the environment

so it's not very satisfying to use

[fading bone]

idk i never have that problem

its pretty obvious imo

just comes barreling out from in front and sets everything on fire

[hard thistle]

hmm, might be hdr stuff with my ps5 then

but i saw a underthemayo video where he said each of the runes give different levels of melee charge, and that ground fissure gives the most. i don't know if that's accurate or not. Has anyone experienced this?

that's the one reason i'm considering to start using ground fissure more

[fading bone]

they fixed that

[hard thistle]

so it was a glitch and not a mechanic?

[fading bone]

yeah

[hard thistle]

ahh ok. so as it stands now, all the runes are basically equal, other than their original effect

[fading bone]

im not exactly sure if the others give more melee charges or not but the ground fissure being basically insanely broken with insta recharging the mace or whatever was fixed

the others might still remain unchanged

also apparently theres a glitch where if you melee switch from gauntlets to the mace right when you parry you get a fully charged mace

hyperousion the speedrunner uses it a lot

[hard thistle]

For real ? never heard of this. Gonna have to try it out

[fading bone]

yeah i see him use it all the time

i havent bothered trying it myself because i just dont feel like trying to think of that atm

i can manage without it haha

[hard thistle]

atm whenever you melee switch, you just lose all your charges. even if it's from gauntlets to flail. that's why there isn't much incentive to switch

[chilly needle]

The swords have been my most successful rune

[fading bone]

yeah i hate how it loses all the charges

would be much more fun to be able to keep them

[hard thistle]

with rune switching, there's a little cooldown before it triggers the next rune, but the punishment isn't as bad

[fading bone]

would make me use the flail way more often

[hard thistle]

exactly

[fading bone]

to just switch over for a little extra armor and then back over

[hard thistle]

it should just be a simple logic calculation when switching: 3 gauntlets = 3 flails = 1 mace, or something like that. and that way, when swapping, you keep all your charges

[fading bone]

yeah. i think theres something like the way that its programmed where it wasnt possible to make that work

but i may just be making that up

[ebon lynx]

not to sound like a broken record but kaibz mod can do exactly this

[hard thistle]

i play on ps5 bro

[ebon lynx]

rip

hack sony ig

[fleet spruce]

console moment

[chilly needle]

Love me some console. Thats the way to go

[fleet spruce]

i don't particularly hate consoles but i just prefer not being limited by my software as much, great plug n play machines no doubt

Back in the day i actually wanted to get an ps3

[chilly needle]

I just think they are better. Basically same graphics for the most part same gameplay. I play with controller any how. And im not limited i can play the same games on pc I do on xbox

I don't mod so I really just use my pc for video production and music and recording my gameplay

[green estuary]

No
The devs just don’t want it to work that way, understandably

[tranquil pond]

Finally played Dark Ages! 🥳 🕺
Finished only 1st level so far, but it was awesome! Had a blast with it. There are some issues for me here too, but it was cool overall. Scale of level approach is amazing. 🤟 😈
The only thing I don't understand how to set graphical settings properly for it. I played Eternal on max settings with good FPS. Here with max settings, but without RT it gives me around 40-60 FPS (usually around 45). Don't know is it fine or should I cut some settings and try to enable RT.
Also I started from easiest difficulty and don't know for now what settings to change, but I guess I'll figure out this later. Enemies die a bit too fast and projectiles are a bit slow - probably need to increase this.

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah dude

Dark Ages has Ray Tracing On ALWAYS, Since the whole lighting system is made around it

[green estuary]

What card do you have?

[obsidian shard]

Theirs some more technical aspects like how some demon gore now sticks around and how there are wayyy more enemies on screen at once

60fps is the aim

[tranquil pond]

I mean, there are additional settings for it from what I understand (lighting and reflections?), but I'm not very familiar with RT stuff at all. I just know that it doesn't work well with my AMD Radeon graphics card and performance wise it's better to turn off, when possible. 😅 But maybe I need to use FSR or something like that and dynamic resolution.
I would try to aim at 60 FPS then. Thanks!

[tranquil pond]

I have:

• AMD Radeon RX 6800
• i5 12600KF
• 32GB RAM
• Windows 11
  I also have SSD, but I installed Doom: Dark Ages to HDD, which maybe was a mistake too.

[swift peak]

What’s an i5 12600KF translated to NVidia?

The game reccomend a 5070 iirc

[obsidian shard]

That's a cpu

[swift peak]

Do they not have a GPU?

[obsidian shard]

The AMD Radeon RX 6800 is the GPU

[swift peak]

Oh

[green estuary]

Bruh

[tranquil pond]

My bad, I probably should detailed this info.

• Graphics Card: AMD Radeon RX 6800
• CPU: Intel i5 12600KF (without graphics).
• RAM: 32 GB.
• OS: Windows 11.
• Resolution: 2560x1440

• SSD and HDD (DA on HDD).

From what I've seen 6800 is fine for 1440p, which i play with. But I need to optimize some settings a bit instead of turing on everything to UN. 😅

[green estuary]

Oh yeah lol
Tbh if you’re ok with using dlss you could just switch dlss quality on and forget about everything else

Because it’s essentially indistinguishable from native 1440p

[tranquil pond]

I try to use FSR, thank you - it's analog of DLSS. Set to Quality+100% sharpness. Would try it a bit later.
I just don't know should I enable Path Tracing (?) or it's better to keep other settings high instead.

[obsidian shard]

def other settings high

[green estuary]

Ah right, my bad sorry
I’ve been so nvidia-brained that upscaling just means dlss to me nowadays

[tranquil pond]

😄 No problem.
I heard DLSS is better, though. But also from Youtube video I just saw it seems they both better than TAA.
I would stay with Quality preset for it, since now I have around 80 FPS, which feels better.

[hearty edge]

nah path tracing takes like half of ur fps especially with radeon

i'd say everything high and fsr quality should give you very good fps

[hearty edge]

ya know, xess gives better image quality than fsr in this game iirc

you could try using it

[hearty edge]

i'm not sure if they updated to fsr 3.1 but still

[hearty edge]

also i think u should put the game on an ssd to make load times faster

maybe it'll even run better idk

[hearty edge]

it's like nvidia's latest raytryzen 6 6650x2d with 69mb of 2d-horizontal cache

[hearty edge]

it'll maybe be a lil bit slower but after 60fps this game is hella smooth anyways so i prefer the better image quality