#the-dark-ages
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@thin hound, the proof: Doom 2016's Codex says that Argent D'Nur was colonized by Hell during the First Age of Ascension. This does not happen until after The Dark Ages.
Well it's called DOOM Eternal and doesn't last an eternity 🤓
The Dark Ages is just a medieval-sounding name. If anything it refers to Argent D'Nur, not Hell.
The Ages thing makes perfect sense, in fact it's one of the things in Doom they actually seem to have put serious thought into. 2016 alone gives you enough info to get it.
Is the First Age of Ascension the same as the other First Age though?
Also, just, like, have it stand still for a moment. Anxiously slowly get closer to you as you realize you're barely doing any damage to it. I really really want them to bring it back and make it stand out from the other demons by making it an actual ominous entity
Dude, there's only one First Age. That's why it's called the First. The 2016 Codex that says this is specifically talking from Hell's POV.
I don’t know, it’s very confusing man. I mean there are like 3 different councils
Argent D'Nur doesn't measure their eras in Ages - they use "Time of" descriptors, as we see in Doom Eternal. i.e. the Time of Man, the Time of Grief.
What
The High Council, the Elite Council, and the Order of the Six are the same entity. Just different titles.
The 12 Council of 9 and Blind Council though?
Those are not related to Hell at all. It's random UAC bureaucracy bullshit. It doesn't make Hell any more confusing.
I know, but my point is there are name redundancies like that all over DOOM lore that make it a little confusing
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203235586077491210/1464735522055389296/image.png?ex=69768cc1&is=69753b41&hm=114bec97c1595a20127cb449cc3f85020c9be88330c0cf55e1e3a6199b3e212a&
(Side-note: if any of you haven't played this, play it. Started it yesterday and it's fucking awesome.)
Sure, but the Ages thing isn't one of them. What about that confuses you?
What age is 2149 in?
Ages refer to the chronology of Hell, not the Earthly Realms. That said, Doom 2016 takes place during the Fourth Age.
OK, so the ages are determined by Hell events and can be relatively short then?
No, the Ages are long. Codex describes them as taking place across eons.
Ages are determined by the rule of a Dark Lord.
Would the death of Ahzrak bring on the second age though?
The Aranea Imperatrix was the Dark Lord of the Fourth Age. So the Fourth Age began when it ascended to power.
No, because Ahzrak was never Dark Lord - he was a Prince, who was attempting to be appointed to Dark Lord by proving his worth to the High Council, who would grant his wish if he won the Unholy Wars.
The First Age seems to be unique in that it either lacked a Dark Lord (ruled instead by the High Council) or said Dark Lord was appointed late in its history.
Now I want to see that whole thing, sounds awesome
Or wait the Unholy Wars are just the events of the game, aren’t they
But Davoth existed before everything, was he imprisoned the whole time then?
Davoth's fall at the hands of the Father is what starts the First Age. His reign was pre-history - think humans and how we sort history with BC vs AD.
So the dawn of the Common Era began when The Father took over at year 1 CE, that’s really cool
TDA comprises only a small part of the Unholy Wars, which ran for many years.
Guys. I don't know how many times I need to keep politely asking before warning. Squid please ask this stuff in #thecodex
hi lm 👋
Yes sorry
What about "Metal Age" and "Golden Age" stuff from the Eternal codex?
We’re continuing the conversation in the codex channel
oh my bad
Sorry about that - I lose track of when they go from just answering a question to becoming a conversation, and forget to redirect.
Try to remember going forward, I've asked this and given leniency about 100x's over. We made a whole channel for it.
Yeah, that's on me.
Guys, I died in a dragon section for the first time 
Bro how
In my defense, I got a mild electric shock earlier. My arm spasmed when playing Aratum and I got wrecked. My winning streak is over 
The Waltz has begun.
Waltzing it
Dance the demons dead!!!
If he is a prince, then who is the king or queen?
I'll answer this in #the-codex .
What dlc info got revealed in the doom 3 stream?
Hol on I can't post my big dlc paragraph each time
Lemme find horde's
Damn I can't
U can copy paste the msg link instead
Oh true
No more Samir wall of text jumpscares 
Tbf the guy asked only from last stream 
This is over 8 months but it contains some new info from last stream
Idk what to do brah
#the-dark-ages message there ya go
what do yall think of the cacodemon for dark ages?
awesome but he should get a new attack or something
one of the worst enemies of the game gameplay wise
purely bc of the purple wall attack
looks stupid
the design i like its just the gameplay i despise
what about design wise?
Design wise he looks cool
I like the brainy insectoid look
Gameplay wise,
He's a manifested laxative
I love the design. It’s different, but I like the eldritch design a lot.
HATE fighting them tho lmao
i want my meatball back, you know what actually the DLC should just be DOOM 1, like not a remake, just DOOM 1, but also put the archvile in it. That'd actually make the game worth the $120
Bro's on his ragebait arc
tehehe
What about the stuff specifically from the doom 3 stream?
.
Here
Alr here
New secret weapon, hard to get
Not massive story but satisfying narrative
-will answer some questions regarding lore
-meeting people from narrative we wanna meet
Challenges in not just combat but in other things, some are holt slayer gate level
Archvile confirmed last week
This is your official occupation at this point
they should pay samir with Cacodemon plushies
That’s pretty good money if you ask me
Hm
Doom the Dark ages dlc releases .-- .... . -. -.-- --- ..- --. . - .- .--- --- -...
thanks
-.-- --- ..- .-. / -- --- -- guys this answers all lore questions trust
*ur

so like does the turret rune on the shield have a random chance of activating or what
and how do i kill that purple shield demon that appears later in the game
Not as I remember it
You kill it's clone
Assuming it's the guy with the robe?
yeah
yeah thanks i couldnt find what his name was in english because i play the game with a different language
And occasionally shield themselves and send a clone after you
i just dont really understand how to activate the turret rune on shield, i block the green attacks perfectly and it still seems random to me
Kill the clone, then the Acolyte!
They have a cool down, like the other shield runes
There's a meter on your shield
In addition, the turret is activated by ranged hell surge attacks you parry!
It's like a circular bar
As are the other shield runes!
I am back and I am dead
oh yeah it's in the corner of the screen
Fr
i see
Which shield rune are you finding most fun in, @white dome ?
turret one i think it just looks really cool
and useful too
Good answer! And I agree!
Slayer with shoulder-mounted equipment is peak Slayer build.
The Daggers are INSANE when maxed out! I slept on them heavy for a while!
turret + ravager + flail
i tried daggers but not maxed out idk i still really like the turret but i may try them i think
trust me
Is that the health build?
max daggers will nuke everything in front of you
Sounds like it
yup
Hey I hope they add some more presets soon
Wink wink
Would be greatly appreciated
Nudge nudge

ive been waiting for so long
working on fixing the General chat, for some reason comments aren't going through in there
alright so it wasnt just me... Thank you
What needs fixing
nope, we'll get it fixed soon dw
read above
Oh so that's why it's been 5 hrs and nothing
Usually they talk abt anything
I cant even comment
So uhh how is everyone?
My ages are dark
Cinema
We can turn this into general chat but every sentence has something to do with TDA
can't sleep, back to Uni monday and I'm trying to reset so I can wake at a reasonable hour
You can use this channel as General chat until it gets fixed
We'll keep you posted, it's a Discord issue currently and not our modbot or server issue. They're working on fixing it.
Oof dawg
My brother is in uni and is DRENCHED in Homework
I myself just got off an 8 and a half hour shift!
(9 and a half if you count prep time)
Not the longest shift I ever took tho lol
Longest has been 17 hours straight
Slept the whole next day
Brother how do you even get yourself into that situation tf
I have a tendency to not stop until I'm done.... Plus it was with Elections Canada and BC (Yes I did it two separate times) and they offered that I leave after 8 hours.... I NEEDED THAT PAY
Damnnn. Bro better have gotten PEAK overtime
Not stop… “until it is done”… seems familiar…
Are you who I think you are?
Real
With Elections the pay takes.... Ages
(2 months)
Government is so lame
I love working with em tho
It was direct deposit tooo
damn, reminds me of a time back when I was doing a 3D modelling course. Had to stay up for about 20 hours to get a model fully rendered because my old piece of crap laptop would go funny sometimes. Good times
slept for like 16 hours after that though so I felt really energised the following day lol
DUDE, Did u get better pc?
Built my own desktop, I'll never be caught off-guard again lol
got all my RAM too just before AI took off
darn
Why didnt you pay more?
why didn't I think of that. Brilliant
seriously though, it's ridiculous now. Stick of RAM that used to cost roughly £50 is like £190 now
no gif spamming plz guys
sorry, won't happen again
allg
New DOOM The Dark Ages DLC gameplay and enemy details have been revealed!
#doom #doomnews #doomthedarkages
Slayer Ideation by Emerson Tung: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/6L5zv6
Archvile by Colin Geller: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/281WrY
Acolyte Ideation by Jon Lane: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/x34EQm
Eternal Slay...
General is back!
Is there a location you guys would like to see visualised for the DLC? I'd really like to go back to Limbo. The brief hint of it in Resurrection really got me excited for what else could be done with the space, and the concept art by Nathan Elmer further engaged my curiosity for what Limbo could be. It would be a shame for those interior assets to go to waste; they nailed the calcified look of stalagmites and stalactites. I think it would be interesting for a High Council member to hide out in Limbo and for Doomguy to figure out a way to get there without dying. It could also manifest itself as a rather fun puzzle in game too
I'd like to see more of Doom 64 styled hell as well
I completely agree with you regarding Limbo. The concepts for that place were insane, and it would be awesome to learn a little bit more about Limbo as well, given death is a huge part of the Doom franchise
I’d personally love to see some more Urdak type environments somehow. I remember a week or so ago there was discussion about what those possibilities could be since the Slayer can’t travel there
The discovery of the Elemental Sepulchre is a possibility for this time period, as apparently the sentinels aren’t currently aware of any more live Wraiths. I can only imagine that the place is visually intriguing, perhaps very cosmic or world spear-esque in its design
There are those Wraith Temple ideation artworks from the artbook. Maybe they reuse those? Because the Wraiths are from the Cosmic Realm, maybe our way back there is by visiting the core of Argent D’Nur, right where the World Spear passes through the planet. It seems to have cultivated its own environment inside the planet. The plantlife is not too dissimilar from what we see in the Karthul Marshes.
I’d love to see more Urdak locations too. Whoever came up with that Maykr church idea was onto something 😉
Where doom 
the what?? lmao
The limbo meant to be the level during early dev cycle, how shows Nathan Elmer's artstation. One of the locations of this level, meant to be The World Tree built by the gods, from the first Titan's body.
That’s where Valen led the Deag Priests during the Betrayal, or at least where he granted them access to. That’s where the slumbering Wraiths reside
Yeah, I remember reading up on that stuff. It was interesting stuff and would be cool to see someday! Although I doubt it personally
Yeah, just like those World Spear concepts! That’s probably my favorite piece of scrapped/unused content for the game
Umbral Plains, we've been hearing about this stupid place since 2016, I just want to know what the big deal is with the plains that are told to be umbral
It might be the first level of the DLC. If I’m right and TDA base game ends at the point in the first testament where Davoth says “In his ravenous hatred, he found no peace”, the continuation of the story would logically follow the successive passage; “and with boiling blood, he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the Dark Lords who had wronged him.” We might then pick up at this point
holy shit
Fellas
Am i the only one who's having a bit of an issue with the shock bouncing
Like when i kill a shocked enemy the shock just doesn't chain between them at all
Even if they're directly next to eachother
i havent noticed that no
it just dawned on me, the reason why both "from beyond" and "hellbreaker" levels feel odd is bc they are moreso short climaxes to the previous level than levels on their own
minimal combat with a higher emphasis on vehicle with next to no exploration, I suppose from beyond gets more exploration by the nature of it being a dragon stage in a similar vein to Holy City of Aratum
like what exploration can u really do with the Atlan
maybe the original plan was to have these stages be together, seems to make a little more sense, as "Sentinel Command station" and "Foresaken Plains" both end in "jump in the whip"
i suppose that might have been too long and they opposed to it, leaving the stages separate and awkwardly short/vehicle focused
i suppose, but like Hellbreaker makes me mad bc they bait u with an asscrack fight and haphazardly end it with nothing and a portal (Eternal reference)
from beyond kind of also feels pointless by the end bc Kreed and Thira are taken anyways, well at least demons were killed that probably helped the Sentinels
Our time... will come 👹
killing demons in hell is inherently pointless unless u have a designated target bc theres like an infinite amount
i love asscrack but that was a BITCH move
I mean he's gotta try anyway, even if the plan fails in the end.
thats fair
And I like plan B 
yeah but fighting off a bunch of giant tentacles trying to destroy your base is cool af
Yh, the game does it on purpose so that ur hate for him builds up, and hopefully not ur frustration levels over the game 
i hope this was the intention
"THIS guy" starts shaking clenched fists
it definitely is
they make asscrack be the smart cowardly villain really well
and it makes the final cutscene that much more satisfying
I don't even think its cowardice when faced with the Slayer its basic survival instincts
but like, as a player im expecting more
yeah but he's still a coward
since he just keeps running away and relying on the witch until he has his omega powers
and then suddenly he's a cocky mfer
the aggadon boss ain't enough i want MORE
to be fair that aggadon leader was a brick wall in my first few runs
well, me too but c'mon
maybe they should have showcased the komodo champion then and there
that would have been cool, like "hey new big bad demon and a champion"
feels kind of out of the blue to have it as a boss fight at the start of the bfc level
well that was its region
the komodo would feel weird and out of place just sitting in the middle of hell for the first time
its an amphibian demon
oh wait that makes sense
its a komodo after all, thing is it just shows up anywhere after that lol
"hell? Where's the water"
The Cyberdemons, Acolytes and Cosmic Barons in the vicinity holding their laughter:
but for the progression and lore its good to introduce them in places that makes sense
this might be the single worst demon to be in hell bc there's no water
well i think the blood swamps have, even if it's irradiated but im pretty sure the komods can handle that
I was in a livestream with Mayo, a few other content creators and an id dev and it was mentioned that a lot of levels were split in half
I wonder what made them think initially that nearly 2 hr levels was a good idea 
And that's true, in the game's files for exemple: abyssal forest called m5 forge, and ancestral forge as m5 forge - heart.
felt like siege 1 and 2 were initially also one level
i cant remember what they were named in the game files
seems to be something that was happening since first game in the modern trilogy
And that's actually still the one level in-game, if you use Noclip in the end of the forest, you will apear in the start of the forge.
yeah that's one of the more noteworthy ones
Same thing with Lomarith and belly of the beast IIRC
they needed to split nerathul as well 🙃
I like long levels idk
As long as they're interesting to me
Nerarathul is not one of them
my pandemonium runs did not like long levels
Also IDK why but the barracks in files called M3 Holy City and Aratum as M3 Holy City - Dragon
If the DLC will be released in the summer, then Hugo will have time to tell everything by that time))
Jeez
concept art shows jump pads on the bridge that connects the Vagary Champion arena to the dragon's den, so I'd imagine you originally would've walked across and continued into aratum without a level break
can get too long for the average player
I'm aware
what i said wasnt even about me tbh, just thinking of the average gamer
I know why they split em
But I play a lot of classic doom wads and those can get 2 hours long
I'm just used to it, rather like it
One of my favorite games is 20 hours long and I thought some of TDA's levels were pushy with the length
I wouldn't mind longer levels but at the same time I absolutely would not want to play barracks+aratum and then head straight into siege+ siege 2 lol
Nothing as bad as UAC Atlantica tho I genuinely hate half of that level because of how looooong it is
I'd like, like 2 one hour and a half levels
And not consecutive
The levels mostly just don't feel long
Atleast to me
they should add horde mode Gaming to Doom the dark ages
They should add glore kill and nick gordon
I wants my meethuks
We needed Mick Gordon in The Dark Ages
But even so, The Dark Ages soundtrack is AWESOME
Nvm
But yes this is true
Facs
lol yep
bro fell for it
The Truth, The De Finishing Move Inc, They did a very good job on the soundtrack for The Dark Ages.
Music to my ears
Yes
im glad my theory was real
Indeed
YES 🔥
Dlc abt to be even better
They made absolutely great tracks
It's half the reason I'm excited
Each one was so cinematic and grand
Exact
Not like the idiot Doom fans who didn't like the soundtrack just because Mick Gordon wasn't in it.
And I'm glad that people are appreciating FM for their take on DOOM music further more
man's spittin'
They dunno who's Bobby Prince
Agreed
Slowly but surely
Pretty slow, but surely
Every Doom game ages like a fine wine
this is one of them games u can tell is gonna age well
Give it time
Give it dlc
I can't wait to recognize the same ppl who trashed on it praise it 5 years later

Lmao
I don't want to sound like a quirky "I want to be different" type of guy but I genuinely like TDA's ost more than eternal and 2016
I listen to them more than I do the other 2
I think a lotta folks here would agree with you
u already know those same ppl gonna get mad that the next game u dont feel like a tank and that u dont have a shield
Theomachy, blood red and when the shadows first lengthened are some of my favorites
Oh and colossus unleashed
I understand you perfectly, my friend.
same here bro
GREAT SONGS
Same but eternal is on my top
I think Bueno Barkin will metaphorise the next game as a spaceship
Theomachy appreciation
Thanks my guy
Do you want me to give you my rating of the Doom trilogy soundtrack?
Awesome picks
Go ahead
Sure
Yes eyeless hell knight
That song doesn’t get enough love smh
It's probably the soundtrack I've listened the most to lol
It's so naaaaassty
The main theme is unique, the rest of the music is of worse quality for me
fr
So naaaassty
- Doom 2016
- TDA
- Eternal
So true man it's so beautiful
I can respect 2016 at the top
Even tho to me it's a microwave beatboxing
Fair enough bro
3 near the top for me just cuz of the earworm main theme
Mick worked with what he could! He was doing as he was told
Although I definitely know there are people here who'd put out a hit on your head for putting eternal last
Thank you so much for understanding.
Not that I would
Before id opened up to more guitars, as we all know
Ik ik it's objectively well composed it's just eh
For me
I believe you
Apologize to Rust Dust & Guts rn
No I love rust dust and guts
Also fellas
After the 1 minute wind noise build up
Really confused about this even today. Quake II is considered one of the greatest video game OSTs of all time, did they not learn from that?
Peam it is
Lol
Same. They thought the modern audience would find it cheesy or something, tf
Hell yeah
The thing is, The Dark Ages soundtrack fits the theme really well, and besides, in my opinion, it's the heaviest soundtrack in the saga.
Mhm
Dark ages as a game is just way heavier
It's Groovy, sinister and beefy. Love it
2016's is more gritty tho
I mean could you cause an earthquake by jumping from a height in the other games
It fits perfectly with the ancient, medieval, and demonic theme it has.
And eternal's is groovier
Mick's work for DOOM is jamming but hardly reaches the raw emotion of TDA's OST imo. From the Ashes feels like it tells a story
Heavy ass Slayer suit too
This one is harder
Agreed
ALL the OST's HIT
Thank you
Easily the best slayer design by far
Gritty stuff
Someone says it
YESSS
I think a majority would agree with that
Eternal slayer suit kinda ass
I thought I was going crazy
Yuh
Yuh
TRUE
im not gonna say its kinda ass but its the worst of the 3 but for me its still like A- tier
I'd prefer TDA suit any day
Too swampy
I don't like the shrek color
The only thing I see on why people dislike it is cause its metal....
Like Aint they all metal?
No cuz it's thrash
-# and its not mick
also i love how many thumbnails just use the pic of the slayer from eternal where the colors are just off and it looks even more like ass
Replace the colors and I love the suit
But the base colors are so ass it drags the entire thing down for me
People when they throw logic outta window:
But well composed is well composed
Too bright for me
Hey, do you know what I think about the future of the Doom soundtrack?
Idk why they gotta hate on a genre
Now that I think about it
Speak my mate
TDA suit lowkey rivals the DOOM 3 Hell Knight for my favorite design in the franchise
Picking the best OST is the same as picking the best game in the modern trilogy. They are all unique enough to the point where it’s hard to choose the “best” of them all. Just as hard of a choice imo
What did you guys think about the old one boss fight
It's ok
lowkey fun
Not bad
Bro, The base looks good too, why does everyone have to use that poor render 
fr
Doesn't feel too grandeur to me tbh but I like it
So real
I think that's just a consequence of the atlan fighting system as a whole, it's REALLY hard to get hit
Loved it. Just when you think they missed an opportunity for a Cthulhu boss, it comes in at a peak moment
I think so perhaps
Although I will say
Like the Atlan stuff as a whole; its super cool (plus Cthulhu so plus one point)
True true
Look, now that Mick Gordon is gone, since A Fishing The Move Inc. did very well with the soundtrack, what I think is that if another Doom game comes out now, I think it will do well.
Slayer just tossing the old one's head was really funny
On the Soundtrack
People hate on Atlan and Dragon sections, but I actually had genuine FUN with the Atlan segments
Siege Breaking Old One mid flight is peam
Because we already saw what the soundtrack team was capable of.
That's what I believe
same
Same here
Agreed
fr, I enjoy the dragon stuff too! Combat is mid but doesn't slog the experience, Flying feels awesome and I Genuinely enjoy it!
I'm neutral about the dragon segments and LOVE the atlan segments
It’s so satisfying, then you can subsequently lay waste and blast the other mech abilities
Shock stomp my beloved
Like call me insane if you want but final battle is one of the levels I replay the most just so I can play the atlan segment
yh and its even better now with the updated stomp attack
The Atlan and Serrat sections are meant to be pace breakers so I love them as such
Deadass mine is Hellbreaker
Am I the only one who hates the dragon segment getting cut down by the patches? Like, sure it’s better for for second playthroughs, but they genuinely made the dragon segments too easy
The DLC comes first mate
Perfect
I pray for a new Quake
Music + Atlan + some great Slayer combat
Fr. Stomp became my fav ability after the update
Atp it's the HL3 for id Software community
Hey, what's your favorite Doom theme? It doesn't necessarily have to be from the trilogy.
At Doom’s Gate from 2016/ Eternal
Very tough
I really can't decide, I'm torn between Rust, Dust, Gusts, Flesh And Metal, and Vega Core
Don't let my fanaticism for 2016 show.
From the Ashes
Good Tastes, If You Have Them
At DOOM's Gate by Andrew Hulshult
YOU KNOW HIM
We all know Andrew!!
My respects
DAMN
Sneaky I think we need to make a new truth nuke meme
Got take guys… Andrew Hulshult’s “Opening to Hell” is better than Mick’s “At Eternal’s Gate” in being a better Icon of Sin track, sorry!
Absolute truth
Also after the DLC is revealed
I respect you
I judge my Doom music by their adrenaline-inducing potential at the gym
Vro is cooking but I ain't eating
I listen to the Doom 2016 and The Dark Ages OSTs all day long
Even for making my bed or cleaning
One day I put Cultist Base on everything.
I kinda hope we get some interpretation of At Doom’s Gate in TDA’s DLC in some way
That would be great, besides, "At Dooms Gate" is the main theme of the saga.
Practically the Iconic Theme of the DOOM Franchise
I've been saying this forever now and I'll keep doing so until we see it come true
Remix Sadistic from Final DOOM for TDA's DLC
Hopefully
The Ancient Gods opening
Awesome song!
Doom Hunter Base ambient track is my default song for doing anything
David’s finest work!
My mix of all the tracks from the Blood Swamps
Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pVrSM64px_O5ozeGK6bzLQT0sftsR3tS/view?usp=sharing
Discord server: https://discord.gg/aCH5sP5y9q
doom,doom eternal,eternal,bethesda,zenimax,id software,id,the ancient go...
it's just so powerful
VERY HARD 🔥
Name an activity that doesn’t go with Doom Hunter Base ambient!
Eat, sleep, do taxes, work out, play doom
YESSSS
TAG and TDA Main Menu Music are Unbielevably PEAK
True
Both soundtracks are just absolute peak
My brother, a causal gamer, to this day says that TDA has the best title theme in the doom trilogy
I'm basic af my favorite is still Eternal
He knows it very well
Which seems like a hot take, but it’s really not
I still often come back to Blood Swamps
It really isn't, that snippet of From the Ashes makes one hell of an intro to the game
So we both have brothers that are Casual Gamers that say TDA has the best title theme in the doom trilogy...INTERESTING....
The drop is so savage in Blood Swamps, you know which one I mean. It’s one simple riff, ten ton hammer of metal
every piece of blood swamps is just perfection
the screaming guitars are so good
easily my favorite track in eternal
maybe even the whole series
Same
Could we be… no…. ?
Hulshult bought a new guitar to write the riffs for the DLCs and it payed off
Basic?? Bro Eternal's and 2016 are BANGERS, The Build up for Eternal's is so freaking good
hellwalker is still my goat main menu theme
Nothing basic ab that!
I love how it's so thrashy, really helps with the later arenas in the level
Every time I hear Hellwalker I get Doom Beta flashbacks
And the Trial of Maligog, i will forever be sad that sound mixing will remain ass 😭
The Blood Swamps tone sounds kind of sludgy too, I love when musicians are able to translate an environment and visuals into sound. Mick is very good at this, too
Bro deadass all the games thus far do this impeccably well!
I remember Trial of Maligog got a lot of hate when TAG first came out, people saying the guitars sounded kinda “muddy”
UAC Atlantica sounds like waves crashing
Yeah for sure, the cosmic realm guitars like on Into The Void have that submerged watery sound
I was like, that’s the point…?
Your not gonna believe this
Synthisized water sounds
Plus general water sounds
We plumbing the depths with these tracks
eternal ancient god part1 secondary mission there are hologram shield saw spear
Just a shield, not shield saw lol. Good observation tho!
Who didn’t get chills when the marauder was dragging his weapon across the floor
Funny though how the marauder uses his shotgun up close and his axe at range
That’d be sick too, like the slow mo scene in 300
ancient warrior using a shield+spear too
I love how crushingly heavy it sounds, also i find it interesting that both of my favourite tracks (Blood Swamps and Into the Void) are in green tinted places that symbolize the death and decay
imagine axe shotgun from the concept arts...
when i first heard it i was like holy shit dude
just sat there listening for like 20 mins
real
I dunno I still like Eternal's menu theme best
The track that plays during the end credits.
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TAG2 credits has that "until we meet again" vibe, intermission even
In January 2016, Doom legend John Romero returned to the Doom level creator community - releasing the first Doom level made by himself in over 20 years.
10 years on from that, I wanted to revisit and explore the two levels he made in 2016, seeing if they hold up and discussing how his return was perceived at the time.
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Y'know this might be controversial but they could do that but have some sfx that doesn't synthesize as much?
Bc it sounds cool but I can't actually hear the water
Yeah i was surprised myself, turns out crack motif seen throughout the SIGIL actually first appeared there
Does the arachnotrons only drop mines on mid range? I think I saw in some vids that they do this even when the player is far away from them.
I’ve had them drop mines right in my face before which nuked me and my shield straight to hell. I think it’s supposed to be mid range but it’ll trigger randomly at various distances in my experiences
arachnotron mines do suck
hardest boss to beat in TDA?
Enhanced ahzrak
between hex and flame is THE hardest hitting song in the modern trilogy and it isn't even close
this gotta be ragebait
ahem lemme go through the basics "its good but not the best" there, clap clap
Best song from the modern games is “Prayer of the Diminished”
I can't tell if that's an eternal song or a tda song
Chanting song from Eternal
Yes
Does give rip and tear vibes
Same with unchained predator
Just fast dumb fun
yeah
it doesn't have to be a fake opinion to be worded in a ragebait manner
like going "its the best no cap" is basically asking people to go "no"
well by that logic I've been accidentally ragebaiting for years
happens dw
Between Hex and Flame is a great track and boss theme. I think Blood Spill is my fav boss theme in TDA. Ahzrak’s transformation along with the Slayer starting to get overwhelmed during the fight really made it hit super hard for me.
bro did I just get mod logo reacted
No
I’m a moderator?!
That would be.... Epic
I’ve ascended without my knowledge!
Squid
Comic realm bigfin squid
You meant Squid Guy? (Yes this is his name)
Wait what
The Squid in the cosmic realm is called Squid Guy
By the fans or did the devs say something
Yeah that was so cool to see, because I knew what it was inspired by already
I know by the fans. I think some of the devs also call it that now but uhh dont quote me on this
Ah, I was wondering if it was kinda a Bababoey situation
You’re absolutely correct
im legitimately curious what the point of asscracks third phase "parry the red things" part was
legitimately seems like nothing but a time waster
"this will get him" asscrack thought
asscrack thought wrong and got his ass cracked
this might just be tda's story in a nutshell
Lmfao
Enhanced Azhrak boss; Now I will fight you Slayer, fear me.
Normal Azhrak boss: WITCH DO SOMETHING
Witch is bitch
he actually constantly looks at the witch on some "REF DO SOMETHING" when he isn't enhanced
witch doesn’t get paid enough to do shit for this whiny prince
in seige part 2 i die when i see him look at the witch on that "help" timing
So fucking real
This is all kinda why I never took him seriously
Best part of this is that the witch ended up getting out of that bossfight at the cost of one of her vessels. Meanwhile, Ahzrak did not.
Like that shot of him standing in the centre of the screen whilst the Hell Priest walks behind him in his first apperance, he just looks so goofy like why is he being framed like this lmao
some things i wish reckoning did was
A. Have the level be on a fleet of withdrawing hell ships rather than just "Foresaken plains 2"
B. The final boss arena shouldn't be in some random room in the ship but in a more cinematic outer area like the second phase of kreeds fight
I never played TDA, but judging for, what you’re saying, I agree
Interesting
I would have loved to chase Ahzrak on his fleet of hell ships
Hai jay :3
or hell some new hell ships not seem before that have larger spaces for arenas
I was fine and enjoyed what they did! The only thing I wish is that the music that played was Unchained Predator!
Yo what's up
while i love reckoning gameplay wise visually it has the Final Sin problem of being too generic
or hey actually have us dive deeper into Ahzraks castle
I like Final Sin's look actually, it's a cool contrast against the firey apocalyptic look of Hell on Earth. Gives you this sense of accomplishment
Thats a hot take!
that would have been cool too instead of foresaken plains again
Hellbreaker had us do that but I know what you mean
yeah for a limited time and not that much in the first place
i liked that they put a lot of gold easily accessible doe, that's a nice touch
we already had the harbor of souls ship with alot of stuff in it
nekravol really spoiled me with its "hell super facility" feel
i like that near the start of part 2 you can look and see how high up you are
Hi
I wouldn't really care for the second point here, not to be combative but something I really liked about Reckoning is that it was not really the final boss.
Enhanced Ahzrak was the final boss. Reckoning is you chasing down the motherfucker so he doesn't get away.
The first fight is the climactic end battle against the antagonist. The actual final level is you defying whatever cliffhanger the asshole is hoping for and making sure he's dead.
So in that regard I like the final fight being you cornering him in his throne room and shit.
who else thinks the revenants here go hard asf
Plus we kill that wretched fiend, the Witch! And to see Ahzrak desperate, especially since he chose to go toe to toe with the Slayer using the Heart of Argent and STILL lost (he dun f’ed up by taking away a dear companion), we get to instill even further fear into Hell with utterly crushing him.
i was trying to platinum it but i had a bug in two trophies, in lore nerd and accept shield, any advice of what should i do? I've made some research and it says i have to play all of it again and get all that didn't count but at the moment i don't feel like doing it,.
The witch ain't dead. That body was just a vessel
For the purposes of the story, she is. I doubt we’ll see more of her any time soon
Who knows. only time will tell
how do you know?
It's stated in her codex. That body brings her into physical form
Her real self is just a spirit. She uses that vessel to bring her into the physical world
A lil bit late, but finally finished my collection of doom games by getting Doom: The Dark Ages. Judging from first Chapter, this is awesome!
Enjoy
Thank you, kindly.
where doom 
Hey folks, is there a mod that removes the boss health bars and/or the weapon pickup graphics? Is there a mod like this in development?
no there isn't and im still just as bothered by it as you. I don't need to know for the millionth time there's a Sentinel Shrine nearby or that I got a ruby, I have 👀 . I'm hoping it eventually gets added to the Advanced Options mod at some point
see this is fair, my main point is rather just not wanting the basic "Foresaken plains 2" esque level
guys watch next doom game have 28 levels base campaign
One less pls
For the DOOM 1 and DOOM 3 callback
I think it would help if Ahzrak's ship was a little more special on the inside
and maybe we spent a larger portion of the level in there
would be cool if the ship interior looked a bit like that. although what we got is awesome as well
hi all should i buy tda full price or wait like a year for the next sale
You won't need to wait a year, the game went 50% off TWICE last month
sure but thats after christmas and january sales
im a little late to them
Sure, but it shows they're already comfortable making it go on sale a lot
So uh about the first trailer.
Those sections were cut, right? Or DLC content?
There's levels that straight up don't exist in the final game.
Atlan forge?
Yeah we're aware, maybe it would've be after hebeth
Shame cuz it looked grungy as hell
it was someone named dylanshaw5700
oh... right sorry.
It looks kinda like the top of Nekravol where it’s a fusion of maykr and Hell
is there a mod that swaps the glory strike animations? so like i use the flail mainly but i prefere throwing the shield in the glory strikes over using the flail, is there a mod out that keeps the animation at the shield throw?
dread mace
Nope
I really miss those Allstin interviews
Or Doomtuber collabs where they just talk abt stuff they'd like to see or stuff ingame
Take prince throne as actually prince of hell due to concept in my pernonal opiton. Kinda like god of war bit.
Let em cook
Can you cook what the Dwayne is smelling?
Don't know what that means
Do y'all think they'll halt ripatorium updates for a while until the dlc is launched or might they add some smaller stuff
I'll ask on stream on Thursday anyway
not in my opinion, no
if u want higher chance for them to see ur msg i recommend twitch and i recommend highlighting ur msg there
I just asked bc I really wanna know why the maykr and lost soul aren't in there it has me really curious
josh more often reads those out loud
Do I need to pay any subscription
Hato can I ask you a favor
yes i will ask for u
Thanks

i mean i wanna know too so
Infernal chasm plays*
Yeah for some reason I really like the fodder demons, I just wanna do more with them
That and the low heavy tier
I hope my question comes across as pure curiosity and not just asking for new content like its a live service game lol
I didn't intend for it to be like that either, but I just wanna know why they aren't in there and if it's possible those can return
No one's asking on those streams it's always "when dlc"
Plus its been nearly 2 weeks since Hugo said they are ready to swap out the in game presets 
So are those really easy to change or does it take some time?
Maybe it takes a while
they said they are just tuneables
Sometimes I just think they forget lol
imo i thought they would be changing them every 2-3 weeks
Idk either
They honestly should. Just to keep the causal players in the loop
makes most sense if they are to introduce the idea of updating them with new community made presets
and it doesnt turn the game into a live service game
Yeah there's a ton of community presets now
just pop up the list here on discord and check whats new
speaking of which...i'll start working on my next preset pretty soon
why not release it
I want it to feel fresh but I think 5 rounds just won't be enough
I utilized waves too but that brings repetition with it
Plus it'd help if the arenas cycled but I don't think that's possible or smt they're considering rn
So I wanna maybe keep it on tab
i hope after the dlc that they can find 2-3 weeks where they can commit a bit more time on the ripatorium and expanding on it a bit more, it's very good as it is but it can def use a bit more features
I'd really like that too, after the expansion they can really spend some time for fleshing out some more features
I just want photo mode for my post-launch content 🥲
same
I think they'd add it if more ppl asked
crazy that this game doesnt have photo mode
Everything else is nice, but for the satisfying cherry on top to the package, I want my photo mode 😭
I think they should know there's some demand for it, Hugo watched the Allstin Horde interview
My reasoning for them not adding it was the game-breaking aspect of it. In 2016, you could easily exploit the game with it. However, this was fixed in Eternal, so it shouldn’t really be a problem that would cause id to not put it in TDA
Every few streams I ask about the possibility but that one never gets noticed
This game would have the best potential for a photo mode. The environments are insanely detailed this time around
Like I said earlier, I really recommend coming to twitch chat and highlighting ur msgs with questions u might have
They do tend to read those more often
i needed photomode for a lot of my preset trailers
Highlighting? Is that a feature on twitch? ( i don’t use twitch often at all lmao)
They might not read them out loud but if it's something Josh thinks they can talk about, he does read them out to Hugo
i worked around it but it would be so better
Literally. Everyone in this community would have a use for it. YouTubers, screenshotting, ripatorium showcases, all of that
yes, u can spend channel points that u gain as you watch the stream and you can spend it on whatever the streamer has setup as channel points rewards. I believe its 170 points only on the bethesda stream, which is not a lot at all, maybe like 20 minutes of watchtime (i dont actually know exactly but yh).
This screenshot is just from a random channel for reference
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1465481434973339811/image.png?ex=69794371&is=6977f1f1&hm=9ab0cb3e2f6bd33ae5d278c39c9a91848a55d1e151b887910c7c15432c43c671&
I gotchu. I’ll try this Thursday
Isso esta acontecendo com mais jogadores ?
Is this happening to anyone else?
speaking of updates! February should be our first Update Month of the year!
of course we could just not get anything till DLC, but going off previous time frames for updates, it would typically be next month!
uhhh
words
Looking forward to it!
Can’t wait for some new Ripatorium stuff!
IIRC, didn’t Hugo mention the fact that they probably wont get Master Levels out until after the DLC because that’s their focus rn?
Ye, i'll to find it, but I believe that was said a few streams ago by now!
I remember it being recently. I think it was the first D3 stream
Kinda sucks, but still excited for new updates regardless
ye, i remember that being yapped about in the Belly Stream
Maybe even a new ML to launch alongside the DLC to satisfy the players who only have the base game still? 👀
Smt smt we need to focus on this dlc
I'd imagine they'll talk abt it soon
Ah. He mentioned the master levels quite a bit, I thought it was pretty recent that he actually stated it would probably be after the dlc. Regardless, can’t wait for them!
But for now I'd like some more ripatorium options, I'm trying to make an endless mode and I just need a couple more features
But until then we'll wait and see what they have in store
i think what he said was they were just gonna slow down on updates in general
im like 90% sure
He said that yeah
But I feel they've been consistent idk
Maybe bc they're such big updates
yh even after that they dropped a pretty big update no?
Yeah update 3
but yh the more time that passes without any master levels the more i think master campaign is confirmed lol
(not that it wasnt already to me but)
We can only hope 🙏
how does the slayer control what magnet his shield sticks to?
Prop with his Gauntlet or smth
it's just weird cos you never see him like flick a switch or gesture or anything to suggest control
Same with the DOOM blade tho i suppose
I thought the blade was designed to use inertia
Also, I did see somebody create a replica of the doomblade
Based off of how the Equipment launcher works I'm gonna say it is also activated by "a reflex senor located on the interior of the Praetor Suit's gauntlet."
is it also shaped like a ctrl key?
yall, does doom tda dlc have a release date?
tomorrow
the trailer is just around the corner... I can feel it...
no, im not expecting anything till around May (Same time as TAG)
But the id Software 35th Anniversary is this Sunday!
so ya never knowww 👀
damn, good notices for me, i bought doom tda in premium just to get the dlc as soon it releases
And the DLC is Shaping up to BIG, still DLC size but Big
omg, am about to release in my own face man, can't wait to play it
We already have TONS of info on it this far
the 35 years of peak
REAL! The Hype is gonna be worth it (imo)
I would love to play doom dark ages vro i cant get ut
stay strong
I’m ready for DLC

same , playing classic Doom wads meanwhile
There is a DLC coming out?
yes , it's matter of time
hell yeah
we still have no idea about exact release date tho

where doom 
When DOOM: The Dark Ages DLC? 
It will release on the day it will be released
Hopefully soon
Fr??
I found it hard to believe as well but ye
poethic
Will it have doom 
I don’t understand why you exist
bro what
It indeed will
Dawg tf?😭
If you like playing DOOM so much, maybe talk about it some
epicsquid dont say stupid stuff challenge
There are ways of asking why he only says "where doom" without sounding so awful😭

He like me fr
at least i smile every time i see man say "where doom" unlike ur questionable msgs 
It's just a regular thing i'm cool with atp
What if I just say the same stupid thing like “ballsmith
” every day here for no reason
Can the ballistatron as a pressure unit be considered its standard counterpart?
I find them less dangerous
Is that even related to DOOM? What's wrong with him saying "where doom
" every now and then? How does it hurt you?
The real doom is the friends me made along the way 
exactly lol
Yuup
It’s just annoying when I see there’s a new message and it’s just the same thing every time, I wish he was more constructive
???????
Are you a demon 
Hey, you’re actually chatting!
Thats exactly what a demon would say 
I'm sorry, is this your server? No it ain't. Let people say what they want. As long as it's within the rules, it doesn't hurt anyone what they say😭
If you don't like what someone says. Fucking close the server. Don't look at it😭
Yeah I think I might just ignore him if I see the message again, make it not my problem anymore
It was never your problem to begin with 
Exactly. Stop caring. He does it for his fun and potential fun for others. Das it
I’m sure Polech has plenty of insightful thoughts on the DOOM games, and it would be nice if he joined our conversations every now and then, is all
"No" 
Well that’s a great quote, so I can’t be mad
Ask him. Maybe he answers
he is prob a bigger doom fan than u icl
How are you doing, Cyclone?
Nice, which part of Canada?
Toronto!
Lot of great musicians from there! Probably really cold right now

i just cant with this guy


@green estuary when i fight normal ahzrak on the final boss and he does the weirdly telegraphed attack where he keeps his spear stabbed in the ground and shoots shockwaves, i try to parry and that shit always breaks its so fucking weird. I need a video where someone manages to parry that cause my shield always breaks
there are concept art doom the dark ages looks like a goblin slayer
This isn't General chat 2, talk about TDA and also be civil with one another please. Not gonna ask again.
And stop with the gif spamming
I've managed to parry everything else but this one always gets me somehow
its pretty straight forward idk
parry less or full parry?
havent had much trouble with that one
some solution i found is to jump for some reason that helps with the parry sometimes with some ahzrak attacks
no shield breaking
because he is asscracked
ahzrack is best enemy but he is weak
slayer power is strong!
hey guys did they stream last week and they said id 35 years event come they will give away stuff?
They said they wanna dive into the doom slayer’s past in the dlc, so I’m really excited to see what that’s gonna be
Doom guy family
I think what helped me with this attack was watching Ahzrak’s arms as they pulse with parry-colored electricity and that was my cue to parry. Worked after multiple test fights and on my UN run. Granted I stayed close to him so having too much distance might make the timing a bit harder
or john romero john carmack
true is classic icon of the sin was john romero
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hey guys, just downloading the dark ages again and thought i'd ask a question here
it's more of a curiosity thing until the thing downloads but yeah
i feel TDA is a lot harder than Eternal, anyone else feel the same? (positively tho, i really enjoy both games)
I found Eternal a lot harder
that's fair, i find that to be the more common opinion
note that i played both on Nightmare
Tda feels easier. less clunky controls, streamlined, more defense options,
Still no less fun
maybe it's because i started TDA on Nightmare and Eternal on UV
That's prob it
i was going to say i think I'm playing both games at my full capacity atp, but maybe i still got a tiny bit to learn and get used to with TDA
or at least get used to, cuz i learnt all the mechanics rn
note tho that i love both games, just curious if anyone had the same experience
I think for me, when I did my max slider run, I understood the game way more after that
Ik I'm doing well when I use melee, guns and shield mostly equally
that's smart, yeah i think i learnt the game a lot faster thanks to nightmare, albeit with lots of frustration along the way
Eternal is harder, problem is ur doing what I did and starting on Nightmare unlike Eternal where we both did UV before other things
screw the marauder clone tho, i hated them in eternal and i hate them now 😭
Agaddon?
aggadons main issue is that random unparryable attack that while telegraphed is just kind of lame
yep i believe so
yeah
i don't like having to sit and stare at the guy to wait for an opening 😭
I feel like he's less clunky then a marauder
Oh just simply walk forward
impossibly low bar
He always opens up
marauder is super buggy
o, i might've missed that, been a while tho since last playthrough tho so we'll see
Yeah otherwise he pelts projectiles at you. So you gotta close the distance
my problem with the aggadon despite being one of my favorite enemies is just the fact that it encourages you to go head first but then the red unparryable projectile gives u a middle finger out of nowhere
wasn't he supposed to only send out dogs when you hit his shield, but his shield gets hit by enemy projectiles? or was that just a rumor
that's true
alright many thanks, good to know
a literal bug they left in bc they thought it would be aid the game experience
Yeah do not like that, better if it was mid range
i think i did do that, but would've prolly forgotten it now since so long
holy hell yes
Still do not agree to this day
me neither
Stupid dumb dog
so real
i love fighting the marauder when the bug they left in isn't at play but when theres some fodder spamming i groan and have to kill them first before facing the marauder
two of the biggest things that makes me hate him
i need to try the arbalest (?) stun on him
And then there's the buffed marauder
Actual hellspawn
the buffed marauder is buggy but ok, its the possesed marauder that's ludicrously broken
I think they're the same speed?
One just has more health
And the possessed one appears in a slayer gate in wide spwces so he's fine
The buffed one is just aids
i can kill the buff marauder in 20-40 ish seconds, the possesed marauder always has me at my knees while lasting 2-4 minutes to kill with literal green eye flash hits not doing anything
But the Agaddon is a cleaner version imo, but I can understand if one likes the marauder more
Less bugs overall
also related to the difficulty thing i said earlier, i feel it is because in TDA you need to take positioning into consideration a lot more. in Eternal once I got overwhelmed i would use the verticality to my advantage (plus monkey bars and launch pads, god bless those) to catch my breath before engaging again. in TDA once you're in the fight, you're constantly in danger which is cool and makes it a LOT more intense to me
Yeah your positioning def matters more, sometimes I hide behind other enemies
Although occasionally some goes through the enemy I'm fighting
id please fix
like civvie said for eternal, i just have to Git Gud™
It's my humble opinion that the Komodo should have only non-parryable attacks. Hot take? 
i agree
As in his ground slam and spear stabs should no longer be parryable? In addition to his shoulder cannon? He’d easily be the hardest enemy in game if so
Unplayable
i love how the kreed does this when you walk into his arena