the-dark-ages

[foggy fable]

His name is Sneaky-peak-Jaycool

[fading osprey]

Yes

[foggy fable]

Only the best clips here

[meager vortex]

[obsidian shard]

Bobthepeak

You name is to peak to change dawg

[harsh egret]

Lmao

[obsidian shard]

(also since I cant add anything to Hato)

[harsh egret]

I remember when I picked my name I was like ye this sounds cool but theres literally no lore behind it

Hato means pigeon in japanese tho and pigeons are cool birbs

[fading osprey]

Based.

[obsidian shard]

I'm still trying to remember mine, Xbox auto-made one I believe.

Tho I could be wrong

I've had my username since the Xbox One released

[harsh egret]

Xbox generated peak

They know what's up

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[meager vortex]

doom 2016 pinball confirmed

[versed quarry]

My username came from an auto-generated Microsoft account too

Although it’s misspelled

[meager vortex]

coming February 12!

doom 2016 pinball game

now demons rip and teared pinball with doom slayer

demons:am i joking to you?!

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-no-please-no-god-no-gif-5938426

[fleet spruce]

reaver chainshot pinball

[fervent maple]

Does anyone else remember Metroid Prime Pinball?

[fleet spruce]

my only experience with metroid is playing a bit of MP Hunters on a ds emulator

[frail bloom]

I can't find where to turn off tutorials for some reason

Nvm

I just gotta exit the level

[dark thunder]

Secret gun

[frail bloom]

Too much peak

[frail bloom]

I had a video idea

5 enemies I wanna see in the Tda dlc

Yay or nay

[obsidian shard]

yah

[frail bloom]

Interesting

[elder raven]

(personal list)

1. pain elemental
2. sawcubus/a doom rpg demon
3. a flying super heavy
4. cosmic mancubus
5. more doom 3 demons

[frail bloom]

Very interesting list

[elder raven]

as for lore, i want more info on the cosmic realm demons, specifically the cosmic baron

[frail bloom]

I don't disagree

Here's mine

Archvile(given)

1. Pain Elemental
2. D1 cover art demon
3. Gargoyle
4. Spider mastermind
5. Some Doom 3 demon

[elder raven]

also: i want the harvester if possible

[frail bloom]

Ye this video topic is basically gonna be me Doomtism-ing

Just the most inconsenquential stuff

But that's the best type of video imo

[hard thistle]

Pain Elemental
OG Baron of Hell
DOOM 3 Hell Guardians
Marauders
Other enemy Argenta (traitors)

[frail bloom]

Og Baron would be an honorable mention

I'd love marauders but they ain't possible yet

[spice oak]

GUYS I JUST BEAT TDA ON NIGHTMARE FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH NO MODIFIERS IS 17 DEATHS GOOD? I ALSO HAVE A LIST FOR IT BUT I CANT SEND PICTURES

[frail bloom]

I mean damn good job

Er list for what

[spice oak]

When I started and finished and what deaths were from which demons

Gonna do the same for 2016 and eternal

[frail bloom]

Well you can send pics by copying the media link and pasting it here

[spice oak]

Uh ok I’ll try

[frail bloom]

Oh you already sent it

It's in screen shots isn't it?

[spice oak]

Ye

[frail bloom]

Looks like the acolyte was the main cause of death

[spice oak]

Sadly

[frail bloom]

Nah it makes sense

They're annoying

[spice oak]

Yea cuz they put their attacks around the whole arena and then make the duplicate of themselves

[frail bloom]

Mhm not as fun as some other enemies

[spice oak]

Definitely

I also recorded the champion enemy encounters as well as the bosses

[meager vortex]

We are going meet people form the lore that we have been waiting to meet= john romero John Carmack?

[frail bloom]

What

[meager vortex]

dlc hint

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[frail bloom]

Well, Romero was in the last level in Doom 2

Sooooooo

[meager vortex]

id 35years event maybe they show up

because they are founder

[meager vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kzwZM8PvkAs?feature=share

[hidden plinth]

are there any channels where i can send pictures? i need help getting a secret

[obsidian shard]

#screenshots

[hidden plinth]

ah thanks

unfortunately i got impatient

i think i just have to redo the level anyways because it was a spot that was accessible earlier in the level

[fading bone]

hey guys, what's the exact breakdown of the damage between the gauntlets and the dreadmace again?

is it the full gauntlet combo + kick that does more damage than the double dreadmace? or just one dreadmace? i cant remember

[obsidian shard]

Double Dreadmace does more than the 4 Gauntlets but 4 Gauntlets do more then 1 Dreadmace (plus you can do the gauntlets more often...like a lot)

@green estuary knows more than me so take my word on this with a grain of salt

[green estuary]

A 4-hit from the gauntlets and one hit from the mace both deal 32k damage, but the gauntlet’s first hit applies a 120% damage effect on enemies, so you’re actually getting more damage from that than a dreadmace swing

[fading bone]

ah ok cool, thanks for the clarification

[flat elm]

Do you think comparing TDA to Doom 3 is fair at all? I see some people on the web doing this, they are very different in core

[fading bone]

theyre completely different games

[fleet spruce]

a total comparison doesn't work but modern trilogy does parallel the classic one in a lot of ways

[twilit stone]

The only modern doom you could fairly compare 3 to is 2016 honestly

[random sand]

No

[random sand]

But the dreadmace also hits multiple enemies and does all the damage instantly so there's that

[fading bone]

true but it also has a windup

theyre both very good but i personally prefer using gauntlets more than dreadmace

[fleet spruce]

I'm a big eldritch unga bunga stick enjoyer

[hazy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-doomguy-doom-dark-ages-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-12020465701938454180

[fleet spruce]

correct

[fading bone]

deathless enhanced asscrack fight

[stone pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-doomguy-doom-dark-ages-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-12020465701938454180

[strong moth]

About to go out in my Dark Ages jacket, Bark Ages shirt, and beanie with Dark Ages flail pin. I think I might be cavalier with my disposable income

And speaking on the melee weapons, Flail for me wins in aura and animation but man it’s just so useless in Nightmare

[spiral meadow]

hi, i have a problem with the Lore Nerd achievement on ps5. i have collected all 26 pages of the codex but the achievement does not drop. this is the last achievement left before platinum, please help

[fleet spruce]

dude, you truly live in the dark ages

[strong moth]

Thanks bro

[frail bloom]

Lost souls and mayker drones for ripatorium 2026

[wintry forge]

Flail is the “coolest” imo, but Dreadmace is too good

[wintry forge]

Confirmation?

[frail bloom]

No i just want them

[wintry forge]

You gave me hope bro

[frail bloom]

Like it's an election lol

[wintry forge]

How dare you clickbait me

[thin hound]

Also Hell tanks and enforcers please

[frail bloom]

I wasn't trynna

[frail bloom]

Not Hell tanks

[wintry forge]

Giant tentacles when

[frail bloom]

Waaayy too big

[thin hound]

The Ripatorium arenas are pretty large

[wintry forge]

Yeah, environmental stuff is probably not gonna make it in. Not complaining tho, it would just mess up the flow

[frail bloom]

But they're not that large, and you need space to move

[wintry forge]

I just want new maps

[frail bloom]

Imagine fighting 3 komodos and a tank blocks your way

[thin hound]

Fill up the entire map with just hell tanks and fight your way through it

[frail bloom]

But yeah I would absolutely like for there to be Lost souls, Mayker drones and the enforcers

[wintry forge]

And the hell tank hellsurges would break the arena. If the hellsurge just kept firing and you kept parrying, it would get be shielded by the demons and you could potentially cheese an arena

[frail bloom]

Like why are they not in there, oversight or coding problem?

[wintry forge]

Lost souls I understand if they think it’ll unbalance the arena, but Maykr drones would be nice

[frail bloom]

Hmm I don't think that

They won't unbalance them bc they're just one tap barrels

Small hitbox

[thin hound]

The whole point is that you make your own balance

[frail bloom]

They're too small to upset any balance

And they're too weak

[thin hound]

I’ve already upset the balance before by putting every single super heavy possible in at the same time

[wintry forge]

They’d just be enemies that target you the second the wave starts and then that’s it

[harsh egret]

Sounds just like every other demon

[wintry forge]

I’m not against it at all, just saying I understand why they might not make it in the ripatorium

[frail bloom]

That's not really imbalance tho

[thin hound]

The arenas are big, the lost souls need to be close enough to see you

[frail bloom]

That's just facilitates immediate awareness of the arena

[wintry forge]

The more the merrier, I’m not against it. Just trying to rationalize why they wouldn’t be in it

[frail bloom]

Idk to me, that sounds like less work put in why not have the option

[harsh egret]

Imagine they add trigger demons to the ripatorium

[thin hound]

I’m sure we’ll get most of the new DLC demons in Ripatorium

[dark thunder]

so the doom slayer right

[frail bloom]

Also they're classic and I wanna make a classic demon ripatorium preset

We got stalkers, nightmare stalkers, lost souls, mancs to an extent

[wintry forge]

That’s kinda my point with the lost souls. I think they’d be kinda meh to have if you just have to instkill them bc they’re the only exploding demons. They’d be better if they had a trigger or some mid-wave spawn type deal

[frail bloom]

They're not classic looking but they fit the bill for the basic silhouette

[harsh egret]

Yeah exactly

[wintry forge]

Damn autocorrect kms

[thin hound]

Do you think we can get those exploding hell knights from the turret sequences?

[harsh egret]

They could change them so they only chase the player within a certain range for the ripatorium specifically ig

[wintry forge]

It’s not an imbalance, but that’s why I don’t see Lost Souls adding anything to the Ripatoriun as a balanced enemy. Just instakill them because they’re second the wave starts, they’d fast-charge you in seconds and that’s all

[frail bloom]

But you don't know where they spawn

[harsh egret]

Cuz u also cant really just shoot them from across the arena but if u forget about them while getting chased by like a baron or smth they could fk u up

[frail bloom]

And if your preset is crazy, it's gonna be hard to simply just find them

[wintry forge]

That way they’d have a purpose. You could use them as an environmental hazard against the demons

[frail bloom]

Like Hato said

They can work bc they work in the campaign

[thin hound]

I’m curious what it would be like to fight exploding hell knights on foot

[frail bloom]

I said that not him

[harsh egret]

They're also a non threat the moment u memorize where they spawn

[frail bloom]

Ye bc their spawns are memorable enough but in the ripatorium, they'll mostly catch you off guard except knowing what round they appear in

[harsh egret]

Yh exactly so I feel like they would kinda be more of a threat in the ripatorium

[twilit stone]

wait there's lost souls in TDA?

[harsh egret]

Yes

[thin hound]

Yes, have you played it yet?

[twilit stone]

no

[frail bloom]

Lemme show you

[harsh egret]

And +I like to not check the demons whenever i paste in codes so I get surprised

[thin hound]

There are also explosive hell knights that carry bombs on their backs

[frail bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1464654475921985556/icymi-classic-lost-souls-are-back-in-tda-v0-vr8ojzu19g3f1.jpg?ex=69764147&is=6974efc7&hm=861acf531f3ccb62dc80d5df0134bd45ef83bb45ee934868057623c848d77fff&

[twilit stone]

oh like in doom eternal?>

[harsh egret]

Lost soul jumpscare

[frail bloom]

Ooga booga

[harsh egret]

Someone needs to make a fnaf jumpscare version of this

[twilit stone]

why does he look like me

[frail bloom]

He looks like this guy

That's why I need him in there he looks sooo cool

[twilit stone]

what the fuck is that an old game 🤮

[frail bloom]

Boi

[thin hound]

Honestly not as cool as the previous design when looking up close

[harsh egret]

I hope thats a joke

[twilit stone]

dude doom is like new and that's an old game, that's so cringe

[frail bloom]

? This one blows 2016 and eternal out the water

No contest

[harsh egret]

U had me in the first half im ngl

[thin hound]

It looks less detailed and the eyes are kind of goofier

[frail bloom]

You're kinda goofier

Howzabout that

[harsh egret]

He looks miles better than the 2016 and eternal one

[frail bloom]

I concur good sir

[thin hound]

The last design was so cool and iconic they used it for the VFR poster

[twilit stone]

guys doom 64 is my favourite videogame of all time, i loved the part where doomguy doomed my mental state to critical levels like when all the shit keeps breaking in doom 3 it goes to critical levels

[frail bloom]

Vfr🤮

Yeah no wonder

[twilit stone]

looks better but plays worse

[thin hound]

Yeah VFR isn’t great, but the poster is cool

[frail bloom]

He plays the same as 2016's

Literally the exact same

[harsh egret]

And the eternal one is just ass

[frail bloom]

You haven't played the damn game

How do you know😭

[twilit stone]

i mean kinda but like 2016's were more unpredictacle because of how tiny there were, like they'd actually catch you off guard

[frail bloom]

Can someone explain to me

[thin hound]

Eternal lost soul has the same design as the last one, like pinky

[frail bloom]

No they scream loud as hell they're easy to memorize aswell

[twilit stone]

that scream is cool i miss that scream

[frail bloom]

That scream is def iconic

[harsh egret]

Lol

[twilit stone]

dammit

[harsh egret]

Thats what u get

[thin hound]

I remember that scream being buggy with it still playing even though the lost souls are dead or in a cutscene

[twilit stone]

i was just gonna replicate the lost soul noises 🥺

[thin hound]

The lost soul scream is like the DOOM equivalent of the Wilhelm scream

[frail bloom]

Yeah and I need the mayker drones too

They would add to the bullet hell a bit more

[twilit stone]

doom 67

[thin hound]

Was that the Doom of 87?!

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-punch-markiplier-punch-attack-fight-gif-23206537

[wintry forge]

Still hoping that we get a Lost Soul variant if the Pain Elemental is in the dlc

[frail bloom]

I'd love that

[twilit stone]

give it four mouths this time

[frail bloom]

Would you rather have a classic baron or classic hell knight

Choose one

[wintry forge]

Like, let’s be real. Pain Elemental would be an unrealistic standard if they’d have the same Lost Soul as the main game. That would be insane

[twilit stone]

classic baron is that even a question?

[wintry forge]

Baron is the only answer wtf

[frail bloom]

Hmm I see

Y'know before the game came out, I thought that was a real possibility

[wintry forge]

Trick question, both

[frail bloom]

There you go

[twilit stone]

they could just make it as large as giant cacodemons but you don't fight them on the dragon anymore

[wintry forge]

We got close with the Gladiator boss

[frail bloom]

Ye I was hoping to see the rest of his kind in tda

[wintry forge]

Giant Pain Elemental would nightmare fuel

[frail bloom]

Kinda see how they got basically wiped out

But sadly no

[twilit stone]

doom 3 hell knight's too cool sorry

[wintry forge]

Basically the same one we got

But I agree. Their size was horrifying on first encounter

[frail bloom]

I'd rather see the classic baron

We got the doom 3 design for basically 3 games in a row

[frail bloom]

Or hell knight or whatever

[wintry forge]

I think I would too, just for the sake of variety and importance. We haven’t gotten a classic Baron since 2016, and even then, I’d love to see a more medieval fantasy design

[frail bloom]

Ye that was my idea when the game was announced

It seemed plausible that a medieval inspired game had medieval inspired demons

Like goats, sheep, ram, dragons

Classic hell nobles have a goat face

[twilit stone]

i want the cosmic realm featured as little as possible in the DLC if I'm honest. I just want my hell demon game to be with hell demons

from hell

[frail bloom]

Nah I'd like them to expand on it, but with new demons

Instead of replacing old ones, they just make new ones

[thin hound]

Yeah same

I was slightly disappointed at the lack of Cosmic Realm enemies

[twilit stone]

that's the thing, if they're gonna hype this thing up so much, they need to make new enemies, 3 ain't shit and none of them were even originally from the cosmic realm

[frail bloom]

Mhm

[wintry forge]

I feel like this game in particular has too many themes of Cosmic Horror that it has to be involved in the dlc of this game

[frail bloom]

It will be

Didn't Hugo already say this

[wintry forge]

I mean the focus is still Hell, there’s just too much of a story importance for it to not be

[frail bloom]

And I want it to

[twilit stone]

i'd be more excited for the cosmic realm's inclusion in the DLC if the Witch was still alive but apparently she's just dead now so like..

[frail bloom]

It's prob gonna be like the holt

[thin hound]

Well she kind of is alive, if you read the codexes

[frail bloom]

Khan mayker is dead, we visit desa urdak

[wintry forge]

Hugo teased it, so it’s definitely going to be an aspect of it. I think phillip is referring to it being overly-involved

[frail bloom]

Nah I think we're gonna go retrieve something

Or it merges with Hell

[wintry forge]

Ong. We’re gonna have to have a reason to go there

[frail bloom]

Secret weapon??

Yes please

[wintry forge]

Hopefully a weapon to defeat the Order of the Six with, idk

[thin hound]

6 chapters in Hell for each of the demon lords on the council and 1 Cosmic Realm chapter detour

[wintry forge]

Or some other macguffin

[wintry forge]

Probably won’t kill them all in the dlc

[twilit stone]

I bet it'll be another completely new mcguffin called the Key of Argent or the Soul of Argent or the Argent Argent

[wintry forge]

The Argent of Argent

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[frail bloom]

Yo Thira come help me for a second

I got six foos for you to kill

[thin hound]

It would be an alternate reaver class weapon to the chainshot

[twilit stone]

is thira even gonna be in it

[frail bloom]

Nooooo idea

[wintry forge]

Why wouldn’t she be?

[frail bloom]

Ik Marok and Valen will

[wintry forge]

If Marok is, then the rest of the sentinels probably will be too

At least the important ones

[frail bloom]

Nooo idea abt the others

[twilit stone]

they'll both probably die or smth

[frail bloom]

Maybe Thira?

Maybe. Big maybe

But the other's aren't dying yet

Valen doesn't die, we know

Novik runs away at some point

[twilit stone]

I feel like Marok is kinda destined tho like why put emphasis on him being a big role in this DLC if he isn't gonna fulfull his main purpose

which is being dead lol

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-icon-of-sin-demon-gif-15800332962858004806

only one reason

[twilit stone]

exactly

[frail bloom]

No Ik where it leads to

But I feel like they wanted to deepen his character more

Even Hugo said he wasn't really meant to do much in the campaign

iirc

[wintry forge]

Novik won’t die, Valen won’t die, and Marok might die. If he doesn’t die, then it’ll set up that storyline nonetheless

[frail bloom]

That's what I imagine

He prob dies in a civil war sequel

We just get some character growth here

[twilit stone]

I'm hoping both Thira and Marok play a big role in the DLC honestly, they both need more character and development. Novik and Valen already got there's from 2016 and Eternal

[wintry forge]

People are saying that it’s too early for him to die, but we don’t know that. We don’t know how much time passes between now and the Betrayal that Valen suffers and grieves. But regardless, it’s sometime soon

[frail bloom]

Novik actually went through in an arc in this game so he's good for now

Valen could do a bit more tho ngl

[wintry forge]

I want more Novik

[frail bloom]

No same

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-food-table-utensils-gif-7476012

[frail bloom]

But he's less needed then some others

Marok desperately needs some spolight

[wintry forge]

100%

[frail bloom]

Bro growled and had three lines of dialogue

[twilit stone]

Novik was the best handled Sentinel character in TDA no doubt. Nothing crazy but more than I was expecting that's for sure. Marok and Thira just need more stuff to do

[frail bloom]

He's narratively famished

[wintry forge]

I feel like Thira had more of a focus than Novik tbh

[twilit stone]

Yeah but she didn't really do much tho that's the thing. At least character wise I barely felt like Iearned much about her as a person

[crude sparrow]

I feel like all of these will play a bigger role in the sequel

Tda was more focused on the slayer imo

[solid nacelle]

She's literally just the haver of power and that's basically it

[covert goblet]

Here me out:
"Pacific Rim: Doomrising."

[crude sparrow]

Also isn't there a time period where the slayer is supposed to rule the sentinels?

[crude sparrow]

Finally a sequel to Pacific rim 🙏

[thin hound]

I love both Pacific Rim movies too

[covert goblet]

He never ruled them.
He fights with them, but I don't think he ever becomes king.

[crude sparrow]

Movie*

[twilit stone]

That was just UAC idiots speculating

[thin hound]

Sounds like most of the codexes

[crude sparrow]

Wasn't it in the testaments too?

[twilit stone]

Oh yeah the "he wore the crown" thing

[crude sparrow]

"he wore the crown of the night sentinels" or something like that

[covert goblet]

They were snorting too much demon blood and bone dust while the ARC was shootin' up mini slayers. 🙂

[thin hound]

I think that means he wore the Sentinel armor and title of being a Night Sentinel

[covert goblet]

He technically wore only the title of "slayer," but he was welcomed by them and seen as one of their own.

[twilit stone]

Its probably a retcon, which is fineee 🙃 i guess

[crude sparrow]

Not at first

I mean tda was literally about them gaining his trust

Or the other way around

[covert goblet]

Yeah, the term "eventually" should've been in there. My bad.

[crude sparrow]

Some of them still didn't welcome him anyway

I feel like "usurper" is like a slur to him 😭

That and heretic

[covert goblet]

I remember the "usurper" line, but who called him a heretic again?

[twilit stone]

The Dag priests or whatever tf they were called

[crude sparrow]

The sentinel priests and then both kreed and azhrak in tda

[covert goblet]

Oh yeah.
Well, they all spoke bullshit anyway.

[twilit stone]

All villains in this series speak bullshit, like they think they'll win or can bargain but it's like what game do u think ur in??

[crude sparrow]

Khan maykr eternal

[covert goblet]

It's always their ego that ends up killing them.
They think "Oh, there's this rule that says you aren't allowed to kill me", but they never seem to understand that the slayer doesn't give one shit about "rules" or anything that says he can't.

He does whatever tf he wants.

[twilit stone]

Fr. Honestly I don't even know why anyone else tried after he beat Cyber Cthululu like come on lmfao

[crude sparrow]

"you go too far this time waah waaah"

[covert goblet]

"I have the powers of a god."

"Yeah, cool bro. I have a gun." annialates them.

[twilit stone]

"I cAn bWiNg u pWiNcE aSsCrAcK 🥺 " like bro I'm jumping off the fucking ship

[crude sparrow]

Noooo slayer you can't ruin my comically evil plan!!

Doomguy does it anyway

[twilit stone]

I mean the demons have an excuse cuz they're mindless killing machines, they don't know any better. The villains got no excuse

[frail bloom]

Er it prob hasen't happened yet, and it's prob metaphorical

[covert goblet]

The saniest demon in all of hell was that one hell priest in the dark ages.

He knew that all that planning, super power objects, gods or even death would never actually come close to stopping the slayer.

[twilit stone]

I was thinking metaphorical too yeah, let's just hope so

[solid beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1464482027024810237/203CFC1.JPG?ex=6976496c&is=6974f7ec&hm=69c9981fcd48a8a78277aa17bd6243d6e5ecb34bbab7a5b863f4ec73caba5307&

[crude sparrow]

My dumbass thought this was a Helldivers screenshot for a second

[thin hound]

Belias: “Come on my two Agaddon body guards, let’s go. This isn’t worth it.”

[frail bloom]

Should've been two classic barons boi

[crude sparrow]

What are they gonna do anyway 😭

[thin hound]

But the capes of the Agaddon hunters look so cool in that scene

[frail bloom]

Aura farm

[crude sparrow]

Valid

[frail bloom]

No ik ik

[crude sparrow]

Okay hear me out

Barons with fur capes

[frail bloom]

Yes

[crude sparrow]

And a sick metal helmet

[twilit stone]

Barons have aura "AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE, AS THEY ALWAYS WILL"

[thin hound]

A baron of Hell with a cape made of flames! Wielding a battle axe

[frail bloom]

Yes.

[crude sparrow]

Dude you're cooking

[twilit stone]

Guys that was actually a quote from the gaming flop doom 2015 you guys probably don't know about it

[thin hound]

Is that the one with the eyeless imps?

[crude sparrow]

Okay but real talk, did you like the redesign from eternal or do you prefer the 2016 look

[frail bloom]

For what

[crude sparrow]

Barons

[frail bloom]

Neither.

Where my goat boi

[thin hound]

The fireborne baron is absolutely awesome, but the first baron of Hell design was one of my favorites so it’s hard to say it’s better

[crude sparrow]

The 2016 barons are as classic as they can get tbh

[frail bloom]

Not their face

[twilit stone]

Barons are always cool except for the Cosmic one, he's dumb as fuk

[frail bloom]

Not even close

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh he aggressive

[thin hound]

Cosmic baron is cool too

[twilit stone]

Okay he's fine, but he looks like a shambler I dunno I can't unsee it

[frail bloom]

Ik he's cool

[crude sparrow]

Really? Maybe it's the fact that the classic barons faces were like 5x5 pixels so I couldn't really see the difference

[green estuary]

fireborne barons are the embodiment of my wish that eternal did more to their demons than reskin a bunch of 2016's

[thin hound]

The three barons of Hell designs are representative of the games they are in, all three different but have consistencies and are awesome in their own way

[frail bloom]

Coassic barons look like the gladiator in eternal but red

[thin hound]

And I guess armored baron for The Ancient Gods too

[twilit stone]

Ehhh, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

[crude sparrow]

I thought of the gladiator when trying to remember what the classic barons faces looked like so I guess you're right

[fleet spruce]

It's clearly an oversized fiend

[thin hound]

A lot of Eternal’s designs for returning demons were downgrades

[twilit stone]

Actually you know what yeah, they're just as fucking annoying as them too

[harsh egret]

Do u rly want the same demons over and over and over

Demon designs i mean

Some eternal demons are literally the exact same model

[green estuary]

imps, zombies, prowlers, pinkies/specters, cacos, lost souls, barons
they're essentially just copy+pasted from 2016 into eternal

[crude sparrow]

I prefer most of the eternal designs to 2016's actually

most

[frail bloom]

But they do fit the game ngl

The caco is so iconic

[twilit stone]

Obviously not, I'm just saying I wasn't too bothered with it for Eternal the same way I wasn't bothered with DOOM I and II having the same designs. Like yeah for a prequel game I expect something totally different, but for two games not that far apart, it'd feel weird

[harsh egret]

They can make plenty of designs that can fit the game

[thin hound]

I would rather in Eternal they made a variant of the same species for demons like the mancubus as they did with the baron, instead of replacing it with a worse looking different species

[harsh egret]

They dont need to copy paste the same design across multiple games

[frail bloom]

But this is hyperbole

They didn't copy and paste besides the lost soul and pinky

[crude sparrow]

I loved how emotive the caco was in eternal

[frail bloom]

The rest look different

[crude sparrow]

Giving him a pupil was a W change

[harsh egret]

Not only those 2

[twilit stone]

I just wasn't that bothered by it in Eternal I guess I dunno, they redesigned the demons that needed it

Like 2016's Mancubus would never work in Eternal

[frail bloom]

Yeah what else

[thin hound]

The revenant, mancubus and cyber mancubus especially had lesser designs in Eternal I think

[crude sparrow]

I liked the mancubus in eternal but yeah the revenant kinda lost aura

[frail bloom]

Revenant should've been that classic doom 2 battlemode skin

Change muh mind

[crude sparrow]

But then he got it RIGHT back in tda

[thin hound]

The TDA revenant is the best redesign by far

[twilit stone]

Revenant looks worse but I've really grown on the Eternal Mancubus

[harsh egret]

Imps and cacos

[frail bloom]

Nope

[twilit stone]

Nope, 2016

[thin hound]

That’s not a redesign though

[crude sparrow]

Also he's finally a threat in the game

[frail bloom]

Caco's are wider, brighter and have pupils, their mandibles are also a bit different

[green estuary]

the fireborne baron is the exact same as the 2016 baron but with black/orange gore and blades on his arms lol

[crude sparrow]

In both eternal and 2016 revenants were a joke

[frail bloom]

That's not copy and paste tho, they are still a variant

[twilit stone]

Yeah but I still like the walking fire and brimstone aesthetic I dunno

[thin hound]

Yeah it’s consistency

[crude sparrow]

Yeah but he's cooler

[frail bloom]

What's a copy is the pinky and lost soul

And the zombie in dark ages

[harsh egret]

Look at them side by side, they are literally the same model with diff lighting

[twilit stone]

Pinky just got yellow eyes and slightly pinker skin

[frail bloom]

No they're not

[crude sparrow]

They're not

[twilit stone]

Which I'm okay with again, it ain't broke, don't fix it

[thin hound]

Some copies are fine though, because it brings continuity between games

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-lying-wong-gif-5558347777370316415

[frail bloom]

They have the same design choices but they're noticeably done different

[green estuary]

they 100% are

[crude sparrow]

The lava underneath is pure AURA fight me

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh

[twilit stone]

It's a doube-edged sword. 2016's Baron looks more classic and recognisable but Eternal's just looks more "metal"

[harsh egret]

They are different in the sense they are 5% wider. Wowzers

[fleet spruce]

after 2016 they kept ramping up the metal slider

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/odst-gif-15120350228059041221

[thin hound]

Imagine we get a fireborne archvile

[harsh egret]

Katsu ppl be trippin

[crude sparrow]

😭

[twilit stone]

They're already fireborne

[fleet spruce]

holy shit halo

[crude sparrow]

Brother we already do

[green estuary]

so...
a normal archvile

[frail bloom]

Gimme classic

[thin hound]

I don’t think so

[twilit stone]

I want that boney speedy mf back so bad

[green estuary]

he has flames coming from his hands and summons fire with every attack he does
what more can be done with bro to make him more fireborne

[crude sparrow]

I think the teleporting makes up for it

[fleet spruce]

fast moving archvile would trigger a ptsd ngl

[frail bloom]

No the teleporting is boring

[thin hound]

Fireborne barons have obsidian skin and magma blood

[frail bloom]

He actually needs to speedwalk

[fleet spruce]

a literally tank on legs with power of thousands suns

[frail bloom]

Eternal archviles have magma blood

[thin hound]

That might be true, I can’t remember if so completely

[crude sparrow]

That would be terrifying

[green estuary]

fr

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-archvile-gif-19878395

Magma blood

[twilit stone]

God forbid a boy want to be scared of arch-viles again!!

[thin hound]

I think the archvile will walk like the imp stalker

[frail bloom]

Just imagine hearing his shrill battle cry

Then he starts beelining towards you

[frail bloom]

Yeah and has a 10% chance of suddenly wanting to end you by rushing towards you

[crude sparrow]

Idk if you played ultrakill but I'm thinking they make it like the mannequins in the violence layer

[thin hound]

That would be kind of ridiculous for the type of demon archviles are, but I could see them lunging forward like the imp stalker but not as far

[frail bloom]

No idea what those are

[crude sparrow]

Figured xD

[frail bloom]

Not lunging, speedwalking

That is not ridiculous

They're lanky

[thin hound]

It might look like speedwalking at 150%, problem solved for you

[frail bloom]

I don't understand how them walking fast is a problem

[twilit stone]

Because that's too hard or smth

[crude sparrow]

Yeah but the imp stalkers in tda kinda just waddle around

[thin hound]

Because they aren’t pursuing demons like hell knights

[twilit stone]

They are in classic doom

[frail bloom]

No it can be if you're close

[frail bloom]

And yes this

They basically speedrun around the arena, not necassarily towards you

But they will if you get close

[thin hound]

Especially if we get an archvile leader, they aren’t going to be highly mobile

[frail bloom]

They are more fun if mobile imo

[twilit stone]

And scarier!!!

[frail bloom]

Eternal's archvile is boring to fight

He just teleports and spawns hazards

Occasionally spawns demons

[crude sparrow]

I mean they are supposed to play more of a support role

[twilit stone]

2016 Summoner's were more accurate to classic Archies gameplay wise funnily enough

[frail bloom]

I can understand that

But they're not exactly fun

[crude sparrow]

What about acolytes then

[thin hound]

Archviles are by far the most difficult demons in Eternal, so I do hope they rework them a little

[crude sparrow]

They do the exact same thing kinda xD

[frail bloom]

You know the answer

[crude sparrow]

I do

[frail bloom]

Mhm

[twilit stone]

They just stand there, not to mention they have some of the most slapstick glory kills in the game. And I mean it's still funny but what a fall from Grace. The most "fuck your whole life" demon in classic doom to now just a glorified buff totem

[frail bloom]

Bottom line, make him fun to fight and terrifying to encounter

Classic or not it doesn't matter

Preferably classic

[thin hound]

Do you mean terrifying in another context outside of the game, like the pain elemental?

[frail bloom]

No like I want him unpredictable, kinda freaky, lanky

He has a good chance of ending your run

[crude sparrow]

I could see the archvile having like a global screech to warn you they've spawned in

[frail bloom]

Now that's kinda hard to do

[crude sparrow]

Like the cursed prowler did

[thin hound]

The most terrifying you’re going to get is the cosmic baron, DOOM isn’t exactly meant to be scary

[frail bloom]

But I believe it's possible

[twilit stone]

Again what was the term I used? "Fuck your whole life?" Or smth like that. Yeah that's the kinda thing I want the archvile to make me feel in the dlc

[frail bloom]

Really. The first 4 weren't a bit disturbing back in the day...

[thin hound]

Modern DOOM

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-eternal-gif-26362427

[frail bloom]

I'm not saying turn to horror

[thin hound]

Love that glory kill

[frail bloom]

Just make this particular demon freak me out a lil

Make me go oh crap

Make me fear his yellow hitscan attack

[crude sparrow]

I love this glory kill, actually shows that the demos still try to fight back during the animations

[twilit stone]

Make him like the Komodo but instead of a big bulky fuck he's a big lanky fuck

[thin hound]

Yeah same with the marauder one

[crude sparrow]

Also I love how the archvile in eternal can be seen showing fear during the glory kills

[thin hound]

You guys are all going to be very disappointed then

[versed quarry]

Adds onto dimsprees point lmao

[twilit stone]

Well that's lame and Hugo Martin should give ME control of nuDOOM

[frail bloom]

Yeah because EpicSquid works for id and he knows what the archvile is gonna be

[crude sparrow]

Which one?

[frail bloom]

We're just theorizing but what we said can work

[crude sparrow]

That's rich coming from you

[frail bloom]

Like I said

[frail bloom]

Shhhhh

[versed quarry]

About the archviles getting fucked over in modern DOOM

[thin hound]

There’s a reason that the komodo leader doesn’t have any morale encounters, because it moves around so much and pursues the player, which would be a pain for an invincible demon

[crude sparrow]

LITERALLY an id employee

[twilit stone]

That Archviles are now a joke. Not the "fuck your whole life" run enders they were in classic doom

[frail bloom]

Who's saying the archvile needs a morale encounter, just make him a basic superheavy

[crude sparrow]

I think it shows that they're actually intelligent as opposed to for example the tyrant who just has a blank expression and screams

[thin hound]

Archviles would be perfect for it

[frail bloom]

I don't want Eternal's archvile

Period.

[thin hound]

I would also like a redesign, that walks around more

[frail bloom]

I want smt more along the lines of a mobile ressurector

[thin hound]

No resurrecting!

[frail bloom]

Why????

[thin hound]

Bad!

[frail bloom]

Yes!

[twilit stone]

YES RESURRECTING

[thin hound]

I don’t want a demon to revive all the other demons I spent hard work to kill

[crude sparrow]

Idk I loved the archvile's design in eternal but I'd welcome a redesign

[thin hound]

That’s unsatisfying

[frail bloom]

That's the point of it

Thst is his classic doom counterpart

[crude sparrow]

The mother demon:

[frail bloom]

And no he doesn't revive superheavies

[versed quarry]

Although I will say I personally fear the archvile, but thats just because I'm bad at video games.

[frail bloom]

He revives heavy demons

[thin hound]

I’d rather it just summon demons

[twilit stone]

Bro squid you don't get it okay, we have been STARVED since classic doom okay. I NEED MA boi back 😭 😭 😭, he's been lame shit since 3 and I can't do it I can't TAKE this shit no more man

[versed quarry]

PLEASE GIVE US A MODERN MOTHER DEMON

[frail bloom]

Him summoning demons is just boring visually and we already have enforcers

[thin hound]

They will make it awesome I’m certain, just not necessarily like that

[frail bloom]

It's still possible

[thin hound]

I mean look at the TDA revenant and Cyberdemon, they aren’t going to fumble

[frail bloom]

Nothing evidently looks against it

[green estuary]

They were never that bad in doom 2
If archviles in modern doom were spammed like they were in doom 2 wads, you’d be saying the complete opposite

[twilit stone]

Yeah seriously why not this either like what

[frail bloom]

Oh yeah imagine the hazards

But his support role is rather boring

[versed quarry]

We got to fight the Icon of Sin, we got to fight the spiderdemon. What the fuck man.

[green estuary]

like imagine playing an eternal custom level and just seeing three archviles pop out of a closet in an enclosed area

[twilit stone]

Aight yeah I am exaggerating a bit. I did try the UAC Atlantic Master Level and got like 3 Archie's spawned at the same time. That shit was actually kinda hard, but it's not even because of the Arch-vile itself though, just because of all the demons he spawns in messing me up

[fleet spruce]

oh thank god it's not 200 chaingunners and 500 revenants

[green estuary]

well are archviles in doom 2 difficult because of themselves, or are they difficult because of all the demons that they’ve resurrected?

the same logic applies

[frail bloom]

I'd consider both in his case

His pain chance is very low and his hitscan attack is deadly

[twilit stone]

Id say they are with all the running around they do, not to mention that fire attack which brings your health down by over half or smth

[frail bloom]

And then his ressurection ability also gives him that difficulty

[twilit stone]

And resurrection is way cooler than just summoning because demons spawning in out of nowhere is something they already do without an archvile

[thin hound]

ID Software knows what they are doing, they will make an improved archvile with a cool design without having it run around and revive demons, just watch. If I’m wrong, you can point it out.

[frail bloom]

He better not be sffected by heaven splitter

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[green estuary]

same can be applied to eternal’s archvile
if you don’t burst him down quickly, you start seeing how much bullshit his lake of fire attack really is

[frail bloom]

Oh it is bull

[twilit stone]

Its still much easier to dodge than in classic doom tho, at least in my experience

[frail bloom]

But it ain't really, natural?

It goes through walls

[thin hound]

Come on man, be constructive or the entire server will mute you. Say anything else for once

[frail bloom]

What

[green estuary]

I think it’s just you who’s concerned about this

[thin hound]

I’ve seen that message 11 times

[frail bloom]

Nah you just don't wanna see a classic boi

Raise hands if you wanna see classic boi

[versed quarry]

I agree that its annoying, but its not really all that big a deal.

[thin hound]

Yeah I know

[green estuary]

Well
OG archviles require you to be behind a pixel of cover for a single frame in their long attack sequence
The attack itself really isn’t difficult to dodge

[frail bloom]

raise hands if you wanna see classic boi

[crude sparrow]

Public execution if you're wrong

[frail bloom]

Burn his house too, like Mick said

[twilit stone]

Even still, you can't deny they do bring more of a fear factor compared to the Eternal. And I do like the Eternal one, I still would just like to see id's take on a proper modern Arch-vile. I mean they're all talk about being "new and innovative" a truly classic archvile that actually resurrects demons would be something different for these nudoom games

[thin hound]

Well what if you guys are wrong?

[crude sparrow]

I haven't said anything yet so I'm safe

[frail bloom]

I eat some lettuce

Capiche

[crude sparrow]

Sounds fair

[thin hound]

for each of you

[frail bloom]

One day. One day.

[crude sparrow]

Mom he called me challenged

[frail bloom]

Mortally challenged

[thin hound]

Maybe instead of resurrecting dead demons it can heal living ones, that would be cool

[crude sparrow]

d*mon

[frail bloom]

Sure why not!!

That can absolutely work too

[fervent maple]

I'm in the camp that likes the demons looking scarier, but I'd also like a balance of fear factor and personality. These are demons and they should look the part. Just because we aren't afraid of them does not mean that the average person in this universe shouldn't be. I think they've done a great job with that up to this point, but they can definitely go further

[twilit stone]

Anyway its like 2 in the fucking morning, I'm going to bed. Bye u fuckers

[crude sparrow]

Make it look like a medic beam from tf2

[twilit stone]

Sorry that was mean, Goodbye and have a lovely day 😊

[frail bloom]

Bye bye

[thin hound]

Exactly, balance that brutal demonic theme with absolute awesomeness, like they’ve done before

[crude sparrow]

I think their gameplay mechanics themselves should make you fear them

A demon can have a cool ass design but then be a complete pushover gameplay wise

[thin hound]

I don’t want ugly Doom 3 designs trying too hard to be scary while forgetting the cool aspect

[frail bloom]

I think horror comes from his actions, not his design

I just say classic bc he's lanky as hell and his sound design is also magnificent

[crude sparrow]

I don't think many of the doom 3 design were scary at all

[frail bloom]

But he needs to be more unpredictable

[fervent maple]

As much as I agree with that, I think that gameplay wise, I'd rather not fear but rather respect the enemies.

[thin hound]

Indeed, they fail on both fronts then

[crude sparrow]

"sorry archvile I wasn't familiar with your game"

[frail bloom]

Have him parry you

Simple. And yet terrifying

[thin hound]

That’s a cool idea!

[frail bloom]

Mhm!

[thin hound]

Someone get Hugo on the phone

[crude sparrow]

Yeah literally have him pull up his flame shield before you hit him and it does damage to you in return or something

[frail bloom]

Or reflect your shield throw with his big ass talons

[thin hound]

Or it just slaps away your melee with its hands

[frail bloom]

I hate to plug things I've worked on but I've made my ideal version of him already

[thin hound]

If I had to guess one part of the design it would be glowing claws like the imp stalker

[crude sparrow]

Yeah you did, at id studio

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[frail bloom]

Noooo

In animation form

Bc that's how inspired I was

I think you've seen it already

[crude sparrow]

OH so his animations are done already as well?

[versed quarry]

You just told us your position at ID

[crude sparrow]

This means the dlc is coming out in 2 days

[frail bloom]

Bruh

[crude sparrow]

You can't escape the truth

[versed quarry]

But in all seriousness, I hope they bring back the weird mouth-tubes

[frail bloom]

But basically I had him parry, walk fast, ressurect, flame you if you're close

[versed quarry]

So you just told us his moves too

[crude sparrow]

I think I'd like if he wouldn't let you get close to him in some way, encouraging you to find some other opening

[frail bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1464683238957252732/1769217253879.png?ex=69765c10&is=69750a90&hm=e654659cc7fc2f11985828f558f7bddbeffe0b27cf12b18bcd37fcc95a818cf6&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1464683239506448545/1769217552596.png?ex=69765c10&is=69750a90&hm=9488de74ffbfb2ae43e5fc93c9cc0b44744eb49123ca51f9ce773e3c3bcdfda1&

Tubes

[crude sparrow]

Holy shit 2 archviles

[frail bloom]

Yeah one with mouth cover and armor, and one after no armor

His mouth basically curls up

That's my ideal version

And no I don't work at id and you'll never prove it

[frail bloom]

NOOOOO

I was just theorizing is all

[crude sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163795643677020262/1464683909492248808/Screenshot_2026-01-24-19-10-45-19_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=69765cb0&is=69750b30&hm=007584cad4083fc30d43251d2c51903a5944d4fc60f823dd89b1b9056634d465& Idk man

[frail bloom]

Uh

[crude sparrow]

These are your words

[frail bloom]

Hmm

[versed quarry]

I'm gonna go to the ID offices and I'm gonna search every single PC until I can find one that has your discord account logged in on it

[frail bloom]

Guys c'mon, someone just hacked my account

I'd never

Say such false things

Internet safety is just worse and worse each day

Sometimes you get hacked

[crude sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

We'll get him next time

[versed quarry]

So clearly we need to find whoever hacked Samir's account because they work at ID

[frail bloom]

Yes!!

Precisely

[crude sparrow]

Wait let him hack you again maybe he knows when the dlc releases

[frail bloom]

Bro fr

[crude sparrow]

We gotta ask him

[versed quarry]

Set up an alt account to let him hack into

[frail bloom]

Hol up

[blissful compass]

Guys, if another studio made game
Similar to doom mechanism gameplay, but different story

Would you guys play it or see it as cheap copy?

[crude sparrow]

I mean ultrakill is kinda like that

I wouldn't call it a cheap copy

"doom eternal on a budget" is what a lot of people were calling it back in the day but I feel like it grew into it's own thing

[solid beacon]

I was think if Gladiator swap hellknight version gladiator concept with doom 3 while shield and hellknight with classic style Red flame baron barrow from doom 64.

[frail bloom]

Doom the Dark ages dlc releases •-- •- •-• •-- -•- •••- • --• • •- • •- •--- •-•• -•••

[frail bloom]

DAMMIT I WAS HACKED

[crude sparrow]

TRANSLATORS QUICK

GET SOMEONE ON THIS ASAP

[frail bloom]

DAMN IT

[crude sparrow]

Took a screenshot in case id deletes the message

[frail bloom]

Fug

Welp I'm fired

I mean not me the guy who hacked me

[crude sparrow]

Chat samir just dm'd me a zip file with the unreleased dlc on it, should I download it?

[frail bloom]

What an a hole

[wintry forge]

Nah it’s a virus

[versed quarry]

Was it the guy who hacked you said that stuff

[frail bloom]

YEAH

[frail bloom]

yeah it's a virus don't

[versed quarry]

Download it now dude

[wintry forge]

Don’t do it, it might open some sort of Hellspawn Rift

[frail bloom]

You'll never figure out the code

[crude sparrow]

dw I'll send it to you too after if you want

[frail bloom]

N E V E R

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[frail bloom]

N
E
V
E
R

[wintry forge]

Guys omg

[crude sparrow]

Guys I think the code means "never"
Not sure tho

[wintry forge]

The dlc trailer is up on yt

[blissful compass]

would you like to see more sequels of doom? would you be excited if ID released trailer of a new sequel of doom?

[frail bloom]

Close...

But you gotta crack da code

[versed quarry]

You can't fool me

[wintry forge]

That’s what the code said

[crude sparrow]

For sure

[frail bloom]

Hmmm

What exactly did it say

[crude sparrow]

Icon is actually the guy who hacked samir

And also works at id

[frail bloom]

Sic him boys

[crude sparrow]

THATS WHY HE SAID NOT TO DOWNLOAD IT

We're onto something here

[wintry forge]

No it’s there, look up “Waltz of the Archdemons” I swear you’ll find the dlc trailer

[frail bloom]

I see the hacker chose very difficult morse code

[frail bloom]

Ah

Listen to this fellow

Heed his words

[wintry forge]

It’s a very Sneaky release if you ask me

[frail bloom]

For sure

Sleek yet sneaky

[versed quarry]

Thats Sneaky's Ripatorium preset.

[frail bloom]

Like Soap

[crude sparrow]

OOOOOH that was supposed to be Morse code????

[frail bloom]

No

[crude sparrow]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[frail bloom]

No no

You'll never figure it out

But it means smt

[wintry forge]

You don’t say lmao

[frail bloom]

Aw who's in the collaboration

[wintry forge]

Bro thought I actually fell for it

[frail bloom]

Looks like there's a collaboration filled with awesome people

Super duper awesome

No one has yet cracked the code

I see the hacker has good taste

I should dm him

[crude sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163795643677020262/1464688745079902454/Screenshot_2026-01-24-19-29-51-70_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=69766131&is=69750fb1&hm=44f6ee074166486ebeb381180ee8f84b4bb2a61a879902203ec2b7ca3512e062& I don't think it was morse code

[frail bloom]

Heyyy that's not what the ai said

Stupid meta ai

[versed quarry]

Well what'd you think you were gonna get when you asked AI

[frail bloom]

Lemme try again

[crude sparrow]

Wait so the code is wrong?

[frail bloom]

Yes

[crude sparrow]

😭 😭

[frail bloom]

Hacker get back here

[crude sparrow]

Wait but how do you know I thought it was the hacker who typed it out

[wintry forge]

Waltz of the Archdemons is the dlc trailer, trust

Be sure to tune in @6pm eastern

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-kitty0706-okaycool-chillware-gif-24988460

[frail bloom]

Dlc who?

[elder raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256712479510233133/1464689199709163692/roughdraft.png?ex=6976619d&is=6975101d&hm=0d3f767f4cca8ce6b5199d3e3d7a3d078bfb83f560fc791170e4bca2ddb39b05& rough draft of how i want the archvile to look like. i just sped through this in paint .net but i kinda wanna flesh it out more later

[crude sparrow]

What am I looking at here

[elder raven]

a cloak

[frail bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1464683238957252732/1769217253879.png?ex=69765c10&is=69750a90&hm=e654659cc7fc2f11985828f558f7bddbeffe0b27cf12b18bcd37fcc95a818cf6&

Howzabout this with a cloak

[elder raven]

i also want the longer fingers on your design samir

[frail bloom]

Yessirr

[crude sparrow]

OOOOH

[versed quarry]

An archvile in robes would actually be kinda cool

[crude sparrow]

Is it like an invisibility cloak or just black

Cuz the background is also black so idk

[elder raven]

black

[crude sparrow]

That's where the revenant got his drip from

[frail bloom]

Doom the Dark ages dlc releases .-- .... . -. -.-- --- ..- --. . - .- .--- --- -...

Figure it out Mr. Tm

I bet you can't

[crude sparrow]

How did you know I was unemployed

[frail bloom]

IT MEANS NEVER BOIIIIII

NEVER

[elder raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256712479510233133/1464690318174589141/its-paradoxical-that-seeing-ian-mcdiarmid-play-palpatine-v0-ed0pkn0kmtrb1.png?ex=697662a8&is=69751128&hm=fc25502c659a6df0edf69ab25d03fb38179e84d928862fb8b5f14133a1a82117&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256712479510233133/1464690179569881309/20230921222403_1.png?ex=69766287&is=69751107&hm=c06811aa9edc583d035b50453bebb6001812e3ace3716006914ef963b5182c05& please 🙏

[frail bloom]

C'mon that was a hood classic

[crude sparrow]

I'm a student I don't have time for a job

[frail bloom]

Send that to every person who asks when dlc

You won't get in trouble trust

[crude sparrow]

Actually the one time I had a job it was so I could afford the tda collector's edition

[frail bloom]

Me personally, I don't dig the hoodie robe

But I'm not against it

I don't like robes in general

[crude sparrow]

I don't think everyone can pull off wearing a robe

[wintry forge]

Giving the Archvile a dark priest/ sorcerer type look?

[elder raven]

all good

[elder raven]

indeed

[halcyon narwhal]

has there been any DLC news...

[frail bloom]

I just like to see his face is all, and his head

[crude sparrow]

Like the cultists that revived doomguy in the cutscene just looked goofy

[frail bloom]

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I gotchu

[wintry forge]

Sign me up 🙏

[halcyon narwhal]

YES LETS GO!

hyped as hell

[frail bloom]

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-laught-rire-emperor-gif-20151979

[frail bloom]

My chest hurts

Cuz I'm dying

[elder raven]

hang on samir lets do some waltz so you feel better

[crude sparrow]

All bro had to do was scroll up for like a second 😭

[frail bloom]

🕺

[halcyon narwhal]

... you

[frail bloom]

I'm sorry I had to

You want real dlc news?

[halcyon narwhal]

i dont know.. DO I?

[frail bloom]

Alr here

[frail bloom]

All we know abt DLC so far:

GAMEPLAY:
• Will expand mechanics from the base game in both combat and exploration
-Will be meaningful changes and not tacked on
-"from 2016 to Eternal"(to some extent)
-will increase mobility options

• challenges are not just combat based, will be different in many facets. Some may be Holt slayer gate level
  -new melee weapon(apparently rhymes with steer, it's a spear)
• secret weapon that will take some hard work to get, and tied to meaningful lore
  -the new things added change the game drastically and playing without them is hard to do for Hugo
  • Slayer gates are returning in some form
  EXPLORATION:
  • Exploration has good backtracking and is especially required in this dlc(to progress meaningfully)
  -There will be a hub(most likely the Kreeds ship)
  • The puzzles are really fun
• a tool(mechanic) given will lead to some interesting traversal puzzles, not necessarily skill based like Eternal(but seems to be a huge factor either way based on its emphasis, and that will influence the puzzles and movement options in this dlc)
  -lots of secrets and "optional" content that unlocks over time, not all at once when the campaign is finished
  -some Metroidvania-esque elements
  -only 70% of the dlc campaign can be finished on a first playthrough, replays are needed to unlock all content
  ENEMIES:
  • There will be new ai that shake things up
• the Archvile is returning
  STORY:
  • We will most likely be hunting the high council in dlc
  • more chapters from the codeces in eternal and 2016 told, will take steps to build up to 2016
• will answer some questions regarding the lore
• not a massive story, but a satisfying narrative
• meeting people from the lore we were waiting to meet
  -Hugo said "armor" as a hint
  -cutscenes are infact more in line with 2016/more immersive and in first person
  -Marok is involved in the dlc(implies a larger role)
  -we will see more cosmic realm in the dlc
  -Hugo replied interesting to Nekravol discovery

Have fun.

[wintry forge]

If you post this one more time bro 😂

[frail bloom]

I gotta flex my unemployed muscles

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[halcyon narwhal]

SICK im so excited!

[elder raven]

all we know about dlc so far:

tomorrow

[frail bloom]

Yessir

Dlc: Sneaky's channel 6 pm EST

[wintry forge]

I didn’t spam what

[frail bloom]

There you go

[wintry forge]

These better be new releases

[frail bloom]

What you mean sir

It is peak

[wintry forge]

“Collection” might imply they aren’t new presets

[frail bloom]

No they are

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

[crude sparrow]

I gotta go watch that soon, sneaky's presets are some of my favorites

[frail bloom]

Oh yeah me too

[wintry forge]

PeakyJaycool strikes again

[frail bloom]

Def gonna give it a watch

[elder raven]

heard jay was waltzing around doing it

[frail bloom]

Poet among our generation

[elder raven]

he sure is a Champion

[hard thistle]

Hahaha, indeed.

[frail bloom]

I do infact concur

[elder raven]

sure hope he didnt encounter any Kuagmires along the way

[frail bloom]

Giggity

[elder raven]

or Dark Knights of Babel to impede his progress

[frail bloom]

Anyways

Can we have mayker drones in the ripatorium

[elder raven]

i hope so

[frail bloom]

How am I gonna make a fodder ripatorium round with no mayker drones or lost soul

[hard thistle]

That would be a sensational amount of decapitations and headshots.

[frail bloom]

Ik I need it

Imma ask Hugo next week

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-true-gif-9488978076129629800

[solar cairn]

Hugo, we need patch pls

[meager vortex]

yes we need it

[heady quartz]

Hey, I have a question: What's your favorite song from The Dark Ages?

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/l3LYfT9kFco?si=q8wbUHTxEYPfoymp

really tough pick

[heady quartz]

This is great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1ty9AAoIE&list=RDTc1ty9AAoIE&start_radio=1

IN MY OPINION, THE BEST SONG BY THE DARK AGES

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/czGKV9R8cAI?si=PRHK6Yk1P47Z4Z-i

Check out this mix

[heady quartz]

I'm listening to it now

[slender night]

From the Ashes to me

[heady quartz]

Damn

[fleet spruce]

I also love Hellspawn Rift

https://youtu.be/TnZWlx0jD_U?si=jayVcFf5ruAik-D8

that one part starting at 6:15 tickles my brain

[frail bloom]

1. Unholy siege
2. From the Ashes
3. Into the Void

Boo yah

[fleet spruce]

Dark Ages soundtrack is like trying to pick the best dish at the buffet but it turns out all of the dishes are incredibly delicious

[versed quarry]

"Could I get uh... all of them?"

[fleet spruce]

My fatass agrees

[frail bloom]

My fav always changes

[harsh egret]

Yes Hugo pls turn Doom into a live service game

[wintry forge]

Which one of you was the Blood Red hater?

[solar cairn]

It will be cool

Huge Events
Infinite rip and tear

[solid nacelle]

Can we add a battle pass to dark ages please

[wintry forge]

[warm ibex]

wait a fucking minute

someone in my comments gave me an idea. I might know what the secret dlc weapon is

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gif-5332537

Horde we already know you know

Undercover id dev after all

[frail bloom]

Let em cook

[harsh egret]

Ah both id software devs are here

[frail bloom]

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Tee hee hee

[harsh egret]

😮

[frail bloom]

Hm

So,

Copyright?

What's the weapon then

[wintry forge]

I was thinking it was the same name as something in a big-name IP

[harsh egret]

I thought it was something from Doom icl lol

[solid beacon]

Yeah... pretty much.

[harsh egret]

But yeah perhaps its something else

[warm ibex]

hold on a second, let me finish what I was saying lol

[versed quarry]

The way you worded it made me think of the DOOM comic because I'm pretty sure a marvel artist worked on the DOOM comic

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oxi-clean-but-wait-theres-more-home-shopping-gif-9592017

[warm ibex]

To me, the way Hugo talked about the name situation made it seem like it was taken by something big enough that they couldn't really get away with using that name. Something as big as maybe... Marvel and DC..?👀

The original Doom has a cut weapon called the Dark Claw, some of you might have heard of it. DC and Marvel own the rights to a fusion character known as Dark Claw, a combination of Batman and Wolverine. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1464730696349388891/image.png?ex=69768843&is=697536c3&hm=9222295e17dbd13bec9092aca3c9d58a6cf1cebfe50dbc7b560872fde04db28e https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1464730875559415819/51ewcDmvXhL._AC_UF10001000_QL80_.png?ex=6976886e&is=697536ee&hm=9a945c611cf5f0ea2d020352a27e0233da259bedcff3667c5a6eb990e8c15e2a

[frail bloom]

BOIIIIII

That would be peak of peak

AND a batman reference

Boi

[wintry forge]

Did the cut weapon have any known function/ description? Or just the sprites and concept art

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/shutupman-brianhoyer-gif-18702527

[solid beacon]

Yeah you got one about the steer. Becuase of throw spear.

[harsh egret]

[warm ibex]

"Demon weapon that casts a dark cloud of tortured essence. Silent but deadly. The Dark Claw feeds on human souls. Killing possessed humans or hellslaves allows the weapon to feed." (from the Doom bible)

[frail bloom]

It's a pretty sound theory

I put my doom points in this theory

[warm ibex]

big thanks to the fella in my comments who mentioned the dark claw and caused it to click in my brain lol

[solid beacon]

My favorite was dark claw in my pernonal hand.

[wintry forge]

Was this from the Doom Bible? Or from the Doom + Doom II release Id Vault. I vaguely remember this concept and name from a while back, just can’t remember where I saw it

[warm ibex]

text was from the doom bible, sprite is from Doom + Doom II (although early Doom alphas also have a pickup/hud sprite)

[wintry forge]

Gotcha. Thanks!

Great find. Honestly a pretty interesting idea/ speculation

[frail bloom]

Yeah why else would he just not have the name

[solar spoke]

been absent for a bit, any good theories for the DLC weapon that I missed?

[frail bloom]

Dark claw

Or "Doom claw"

[wintry forge]

Literally such an easy and clever name adjustment

Proof Samir also works for id

[slender night]

Kinda on the nose imo

[frail bloom]

[thin hound]

What if it’s the claw of the Baalgar demon and that’s why the Cyberdemon boss has a mechanical arm?

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd say so too

Maybe something a bit more malicious sounding

[frail bloom]

It can't be

Balgaar is killed in the third age iirc

[wintry forge]

So is the Doom Blade, fortress of Doom, “Doom Mace” as Hugo called the Dreadmace originally

[frail bloom]

Not during the first age

[thin hound]

Maybe we’re in the third age

[frail bloom]

Nope

[slender night]

...well, yeah, those are also on the nose :p

[thin hound]

The second age ended with Ahzrak’s death or something

[frail bloom]

We're are most definetly in the first age

[solar spoke]

I was wondering ambient weapon. Maybe the Heart of hell from RoE? it doesn't necessarily have to be an offensive weapon that Hugo was talking about

[frail bloom]

No??

Nothing proves this

[slender night]

Doom mace was replaced luckily and the blade is something I never think of cuz I prefer the other weapon mod. Fortress of Doom however I do feel a bit funny about

[thin hound]

Nothing proves anything about the ages

[slender night]

I'm praying it's the Soul Cube

And Maledict boss fight

[frail bloom]

"In the first age, in the first battle one stood, you're gonna play that game"

-Hugo Martin

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1464732460398018734/Screenshot_2026-01-24-22-21-49-735_com.twitter.android-edit.jpg?ex=697689e7&is=69753867&hm=57faa597363f4e98c0a849181ee779472b632cd50df28978b4423e15915987ab&

[solar spoke]

Hugo is playing Doom 3 after all so...

[harsh egret]

Personally I hope this is the new weapon

[solar spoke]

and we were meant to get a dragon dark lord too

[wintry forge]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers this hidden gem

It was perfection

[frail bloom]

And if that wasn't enough
@young schooner is tda in the first age or third age

Sorry for pinging

[slender night]

It would be awesome to have a Maledict boss fight where you get up close and personal with it. With id Tech 8's monster graphics, this could be realistic and if it was a 1:1 replica of the cover art model, it would be actually peak and super threatening

[thin hound]

I thought that it was about the first time the Slayer went to Hell

[young schooner]

First

[frail bloom]

Boom

Thanks m0no

[solid beacon]

Doomblade was in dark ages due to concept. Armblade.