the-dark-ages

[warm ibex]

We've had Hell's Unmaker and Urdak's Unmaykr...

where's the cosmic version 👀

[fervent maple]

The Unn-Ma'kr

[hearty edge]

dude rlly throwing lost souls like dodgeballs at ya

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-its-peak-its-way-too-peak-its-honestly-more-than-peak-meme-gif-14944785001351870503

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663786269825826836/1461787367311671407/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_01_16_2026_20_55_38.jpg?ex=696bd313&is=696a8193&hm=f1dab2166e2dcc2adb87347ac694d1b03cff109b1f1133db276802a9816d4c62&

I'm probably wrong but it almost looks like maykr angels

might be the pattern recognition striking again

[hearty edge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161412575788007574/1461816709232070798/41l0qIVgfVL.png?ex=696bee66&is=696a9ce6&hm=934dd14e74ea5d0923a1516ac8c2e04c0b159ddde34e0c207c08b4965c6894e4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=930&height=930

[fleet spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[obsidian shard]

uhh what

[fleet spruce]

Uhhh, look up the loss meme, it still somehow keeps showing up nowadays

[tender vessel]

Do we know in seconds or less than seconds how long parry window is? Defaults?

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1461823130497454111/latest.png?ex=696bf461&is=696aa2e1&hm=287bb01e433d1a03b2550f1812301e5bef9c4b0657cca0e7bb0b464e046a6038&

these guys specifically

[green estuary]

Minimum is 200ms, then 250, 350, 500, and 600

So basically default is way too forgiving and minimum is actually the way it should be imo

[heady trout]

these guys look so cool, shame we only get to fight makyr drones, blood makyrs are cool enough i suppose

[green estuary]

There are some modded maps that use “pure blood maykrs” as custom AI

[heady trout]

huh

[fleet spruce]

atleast they managed to get out of the concept art stage which is already cool

[heady trout]

true

[warm ibex]

these guys are blood maykrs

so technically we do fight them

[hearty edge]

yea it looks so off how on base nightmare u can parry from like 3 meters away

[grim cloud]

so arch vile huh. will it be cosmic or hellish?

[obsidian shard]

voidish (Def not)

[green estuary]

I’m inclined to believe it’ll be hell-based

[grim cloud]

id prefer hell, but ill take both

[versed quarry]

It’d make sense since Archviles are “descended from the eldest race of demons” and all that

[warm ibex]

that wouldn't necessarily matter since cosmic hybrid demons are a result of some forbidden otherworldly gene splicing

but they already have a cosmic summoner adjacent demon. so probably a hell archvile

[tender vessel]

Hey man thanks for this. A lot.

[green estuary]

No problem

[warm ibex]

katsu remains relatively goated

[versed quarry]

“Relatively” lmao

[green estuary]

Somewhat goated with a little bit of sauce

[warm ibex]

I'm not letting his nightmare imp hatred slide. WE will get the FUCK slapped out of us and WE will ENJOY it

[versed quarry]

Of all the DOOM64 OG enemies the chose to bring back, it was the nightmare imp. Like they could’ve chose the pain elemental or Mother Demon. But nope, it was the stupid nightmare imp.

[warm ibex]

they're awesome

[versed quarry]

They’re cool and all but it could’ve been way cooler

[warm ibex]

this is such an odd "either or" type thing

it wasn't like they chose the nightmare imps over the pain elemental or mother demon lmao

[green estuary]

[versed quarry]

Fair point

[warm ibex]

im just kidding katsu, deep down I understand your pain

though I will absolutely commend them for putting a nearly invisible imp in a game with the strongest shadows lol

good trolling, fair game

[obsidian shard]

[green estuary]

Hugo at his peak

[warm ibex]

just wait until the dlc has spectres without the rider

[obsidian shard]

nah nah nah. WITH

Invisible riders

[warm ibex]

nah, makes them too easy to see

[green estuary]

Nightmare whiplashes

[warm ibex]

and too big, they gotta be able to fit around corners and use that huge bite of theirs

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/staringsoldiercatok-gif-2130370366885478984

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/tornado-wait-twitter-don't-do-not-gif-15045322123150449477

[green estuary]

Unironically would be so evil lmao

[warm ibex]

won't accept nightmare whiplashes until they've finally fully fixed the whiplash shield embed and parry issues

[versed quarry]

Master levels release and there’s like nightmare old one or some shit

[mystic barn]

In my heart of hearts, there’s a part of me that wants a full cosmic roster and a full Hell roster. Fighting both a Cosmic Baron and a traditional Baron of Hell would be great fun. I’d love to see that cosmic Mancubus tank in game

[warm ibex]

That cosmic tankubus is nuts

the idea of a superheavy manc is already scary as fuck without being cosmic

[mystic barn]

And an armoured variant at that too? Killer. I can imagine it would function similarly to Eternal’s DOOM Hunter

[harsh egret]

wdym, what issues

i dont recall anything that wasnt on purpose related to the shield embed or parrying in general

[warm ibex]

is this a joke or are you being fr

[harsh egret]

im being serious lol

[warm ibex]

oh lol

[harsh egret]

am i completly forgetting something lol

[frail bloom]

That would be awesome and before release I thought smt close to that was gonna happen

But you learn a lot in a year and now I know not to think that ever again

[young schooner]

More than Cosmic enemies I wish we'd gotten more Maykr enemies in the series. In general I want more non-Hell enemies.

[versed quarry]

Literally 1984

[frail bloom]

No not because I was silenced lmao I was just stupid

That's like 60+ enemies

[versed quarry]

ohhhh lmao

[frail bloom]

Ye it's a ton of enemy types

[obsidian shard]

When it's slithering or transiting into or from a Slither they are immune to the embed

[harsh egret]

^

[frail bloom]

Well ig the nightmare variant won't exist then

[harsh egret]

cursed whiplash

[obsidian shard]

Please tell us what is happening Horde 😭

[frail bloom]

Lettem cook

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/chatting-bean-twitch-gif-22634143

[versed quarry]

He's writing an essay on DLC speculation

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-typing-essay-school-smart-gif-4851885

[hearty edge]

horde u know sending messages is allowed right

[warm ibex]

they have protection against shield throws while slinking on the ground, which is entirely valid, but much like the cacodemon shield issues it was activating too early and staying too late for a while. they did fix this for the most part a few months ago but I'll still have instances where a whiplash is fully out of the slink and rearing back for an attack, and the shield still bounces off.

and like with a lot of the other enemies, parries are not always consistent and sometimes result in practically no reaction. This isn't a huge problem since often the player doesn't take any damage from this and it's relatively uncommon, but it still bugs the shit out of me when I successfully parry an attack and get nothing in return.

Until both issues are fixed I want nothing to do with an invisible whiplash lol

[hearty edge]

damn

[frail bloom]

Mf's theorizing abt the civil war dlc

Sometimes the shield doesn't get stuck until a demon finishes jumping off the ledge

It's a bit weird

[warm ibex]

that too. much like weapoints not breaking until an enemy is finished jumping in eternal

[harsh egret]

hm, id have to go to the ripatorium and test

[frail bloom]

Ye exactly that

[harsh egret]

i like always have no problem parrying them atleast

[warm ibex]

issues while parrying them are rare, that issue is mostly with hell knights

but I have had those sorts of fake parries with whiplashes before

[obsidian shard]

I got one where a demon jumps (usually mancs) and when you shoot them and the shot is supposed to kill them.

A: they die immediately from the shot (like usual)

B: The die after they land

And it's funny when they die after they land cause it looks like they just stopped doing anything

Also I hope they add a shake effect for when demons jump

Like The cyberdemon makes nothing when he jumps and it's kinda... Awkward

[harsh egret]

like in eternal where weak points dont get destroyed on demons that are in the middle of some of their animations

[young schooner]

(I've been thinking about writing up a concept post for a Jekkad prequel with a cast of Maykr enemies. Not really sure if I'll do that though. The world isn't ready for it. But man it would be so cool.)

[versed quarry]

More maykr enemies would definitely be interesting. Some of the early concept art pieces make me think of Hell's organic ships.

[frail bloom]

I'll settle for half mayker half demon

I don't see why not

[mystic barn]

I suppose that places less emphasis on Urdak’s intrinsic evil if the denizens are hybridised with demonspawn. Having wholly angelic enemies ensures the message that everyone is equally evil is communicated rather than the corruption of good, as it were

[young schooner]

Well in the idea I'm having Jekkad would be the good guys.

[frail bloom]

Oh I didn't read

Well what if there were some traitors

[young schooner]

Specifically the idea I have is playing as Davoth during a war against the Maykrs, probably soon after Jekkad is sealed away.

[green estuary]

AI in doom games have had that problem since 2016
They have to finish their elevation change before they’re allowed to get part of their body blown off

[young schooner]

• Play as Davoth alongside a troupe of Immorans, with your own red suit reminiscent of the Slayer's.
• Fight against the Maykrs, who are redesigned and look significantly less angelic as they have yet to rewrite history.
• Jekkad has been sealed away from Creation, and Davoth wishes to undo the seal by finding an ancient artifact related to his creator, whom he does not know.
• Davoth is a pragmatic but decent man who slides into immorality as he becomes more willing to invade the newly-created worlds of the Father in search of this artifact and in spite against the Maykrs.
• Artifact plotline unfortunately does not end well for Davoth, who is misled into contacting another mysterious realm and does not find what he wants. The realm later goes on to form a pact with Prince Ahzrak.
• Final boss is the Father. You know how that ends.

[harsh egret]

yh lol

[green estuary]

Just a weird quirk of id tech

[young schooner]

I think something like this would be sick. But I don't think they would do it because you wouldn't really be fighting demons.

[harsh egret]

i wonder if thats smth they are looking into actually fixing at some point lol

[frail bloom]

Well also cuz I assume davoth is gonna talk quite a bit

[harsh egret]

cuz i assume they would rather not have it be like this

[frail bloom]

People like the silent protagonist angle

Idk it might be s good spin off game

But a main entry? I'm not sure

[young schooner]

I actually would only have him talk a bit. Never during gameplay, sometimes during cutscenes.

[green estuary]

I really doubt it
It’s kinda on the same level of engine quirks as rail boosting, which has also been a thing for 10 years at this point

[crude sparrow]

didnt they want to add multiple playable characters in eternal?

[young schooner]

It'd definitely have to be marketed as a spinoff.

[crude sparrow]

like I remember something about a dlc from the perspective of an ARC soldier

[frail bloom]

Why not

[warm ibex]

DLC from different perspectives was the original intent for Eternal, yes

[young schooner]

But imagine that! Imagine the game starting off with Immoran companions, like a group of elite warriors, and as they die in combat, Davoth resorts to infernal magic to revive them as much worse monsters. Establishing a system to recycle their souls and revive their bodies as better beings, and you realize this is the beginning of what will soon become armies of demons. Shit like that.

Ohhhh man. That would be so cool.

[frail bloom]

How long would the game be

Sounds like a lot happening

[young schooner]

I could see it being TDA's length, personally. Maybe with a DLC.

[crude sparrow]

2 dlcs? 👀

[heady trout]

ricochet i must sincerely apologize, I was not familiar with your game

now that ive maxxed the shredder, I might honestly consider it one of the best ways to deal with unarmored heavy demons

like, it sort of fixes its own tunnel vision problem with the shield saw by, yknow, damaging the demons not in your tunnel vision

i was shooting some whiplash and unknowingly killed a hell knight nearby

ricochet is absolutely unoptimal for super heavies doe

[solar spoke]

Just back from seeing LoTR in cinema for its 25th anniversary. Damn is the extended edition long or what? nearly 4 hours of cinematic greatness

[unkempt dragon]

ask in #general

[solar spoke]

sorry

[heady trout]

its impressive how the quality of gameplay in belly of the beast plumments to fucking abysmal when you reach that acid arena

[frail bloom]

I mean it's a pretty clunky arena that makesno sense whatsoever but it ain't too egregious

[green estuary]

it is quite annoying tbf

being forced onto the low ground around enforcer-buffed fodder while having shit rained down on top of you is pretty bullshit

[elder raven]

please SEND IMMEDIATELY when finished if you do decide

[mystic barn]

I can imagine The Father resembling Paz’s archangel form from Metal: Hellsinger. I desperately want a game like that now

[young schooner]

Oh man that would look so cool!!!

[young schooner]

I definitely will!

[elder raven]

do you have a picture + is that game good? its been sitting in my library for a little while

[thin hound]

Nice reference, and VEGA would be far less annoying than Paz

[thin hound]

Metal: Hellsinger is very good, definitely play it because it’s a lot like DOOM

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[thin hound]

Andrew Hulshult even did some of the music

[mystic barn]

Nah. All the music was composed by Two Feathers. Andrew Hulshult's tracks are part of a licensed music pack featuring some of his pieces from Dusk

Funnily enough, I was convinced Two Feathers were the composers behind The Dark Ages before Finishing Move were announced

[warm ibex]

I remember your comments about that!

[mystic barn]

Really thought I was going somewhere too lol. I'm glad we did get FM though, they're great

[warm ibex]

knocked it out of the fuckin park

who knows, maybe two feathers will work on doom next

you might be right one day

[mystic barn]

One day in an alternate universe perhaps

[thin hound]

You know it’s kind of weird to casually talk to you and then go listen to my usual DOOM The Dark Ages gamerips, and then realize oh yeah, that was the guy that made this

I also had a revelation, I think maybe the unused giant lost souls are going to be use for master levels (assuming they aren’t in the DLC), because remember those UAC turrets in the Mars Core master level that were exclusively in that?

[green estuary]

are the giant lost souls unused?
we shoot them in the turret section at the start of siege 2

[thin hound]

No those are just bigger lost souls, there is an entirely separate model for giant ones

And I don’t recall ever seeing them in game

#artwork message

[frail bloom]

We ain't fighting giant lost souls unless we're in a mech

[thin hound]

Well depends on how giant they are

They probably were supposed to replace the big lost souls from the turret sections

[frail bloom]

Or if there's turret sections but something tells me they ain't doing that ever again

[thin hound]

It’s more likely than a dragon section

[obsidian shard]

They were for the Turret sections, but were cut

[thin hound]

Hopefully they use them at some point

[mystic barn]

It'd be pretty cool if they were the Lost Souls of the Titans that we kill. The morphology doesn't match 1:1, but it's a neat thought regardless

[obsidian shard]

Cooking as always Dino

But ya that would be pretty rad

[autumn ridge]

Anybody here got doom on steam?

[obsidian shard]

yes

[autumn ridge]

Mind testing a game save file for me, been experimenting with converting a game pass save game file to steam.

Think I figured it out.

[obsidian shard]

Classic DOOM to Eternal i can

i cant for TDA at the moment

[autumn ridge]

oh sorry, forgot to specify TDA

I've got every doom on steam except TDA, which I got on game pass since it was crazy expensive (atleast for me lol) on launch

Just want to see if I can transfer my game save over to steam before buying it

[mystic barn]

Hey fellas, reckon it's worthwhile releasing updated mixes? V2's of songs I've already published, that kind of thing?

[fleet spruce]

i'll listen to em dude

[frail bloom]

Btw all the new enemies should get their own toys this time

If I want to see the blood mayker in 1440 p on my big screen dammit I will

[topaz oriole]

Yo guys anyone have any ideas in when abouts the dlc will release for dark ages?

[frail bloom]

Nope

[green estuary]

Hell yeah brother

Especially since you actually have access to the game’s sound files now

[frail bloom]

They should do more plutonia style secret encounters

Like the one's in ancestral beast

A line of gold and then you get ambushed

[heady mica]

Runneth thy pockets, Slayer !

[wintry forge]

Start with Battle on the Blackened Tide or Into the Void or I’m unsubbing

(I’d never do that lmao)

[unreal wasp]

Your and Slad3’s mixes are probably the best mixes since Koma

[ancient basalt]

I just bought Dark Ages, but the demons are all red, how do I turn this off?

[solid nacelle]

Maybe it's the world desaturation settings?

[ancient basalt]

I thought it was just to make the colors stronger 🤔

[obsidian shard]

its def that

[ancient basalt]

Well, thank you

I like to see where the demons are, but kind of kills the immersion

[frail bloom]

You'll get used to it

The default settings that is

Not as visible as eternal but still doable

[unreal wasp]

Getting ready to fight Azhrak on the highest difficulty. Am I cooked?

Or however you spell his name

[frail bloom]

Max sliders?

[obsidian shard]

Absolutely!!!

A few notes I wanna hear is more bass/percussion sections and then the no percussion sections!!!!

(Also have you seen my mixes? I want pointers from you dawg)

[frail bloom]

Oh do you mean nightmare

Nah you're good

[unreal wasp]

First time I fought him I was on ultra violence and he kinda beat my ass

He’s better than Davoth tbh

[frail bloom]

Well what did you learn to do from your last playthrough

[unreal wasp]

Time my parries right

[wintry forge]

Yo Jaycool!

Dude the bass sections were so prominent in the actual game, it amazes me that there are so few mixes online that actually include them

[frail bloom]

And, learn to be patient

Don't stay too far from him

[unreal wasp]

Yep

[obsidian shard]

I KNOW, I wanted to include them HEAVILY in my mixes, Ruff has those "Full game-rips" which are great,

Anecro (Great guy) also includes them in his mixes, and I think he made some "Bass Only" Mixes too!

[frail bloom]

Ye idk why they don't they're the grooviest part of those tracks

They're one of the highlights ngl

[wintry forge]

They fit so well in Hellspawn Rift

[spark totem]

where do i go for technical support for The Dark Ages??? I just reinstalled the game and i lost my save data

[wintry forge]

I’ve seen a few of his! He’s like the only one ho does that, that I’ve seen at least

Where are your mixes at?

[frail bloom]

Bethesda.net

[obsidian shard]

They COOKED at Hellspawn rift!

The "No percussion" section's in Steel Beyond the Grave is a fuckin simple genius, and I Need whoever thought of that's autograph!!!!

My mixes are @obsidian shard on Youtube

My domain

[wintry forge]

And when were you gonna tell me you had a YouTube 🤨

(Where have I been)

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-campbell-ash-williams-red-suit-getty-images-gif-27124616

cooking on Atlan Battleground and Unholy Siege RN

[wintry forge]

I haven’t heard that mix of Steel. I’ll check it out!

[obsidian shard]

Sweet, all my mixes start with ambiance/pre-combat -> Light combat -> Heavy combat, then its a pretty "standard" track mix from their.

I think my best ones are Steel Beyond the Grave, Blood Red, Hellspawn rift and Pursuit of Demons

[wintry forge]

Awesome. That’s hype af!

[obsidian shard]

(Also MASSIVE Thanks to @green estuary for sending me the files, absolute goat 😭 )

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[obsidian shard]

Hi Polech

[ancient basalt]

Dark Ages gave me headache

Literally XD

Same happened with Doom 2016 when I first played, I almost threw up during my first time. Took a while until I got used to the game

I wonder how many will I need to get used to Dark Ages. Maybe I should increase the gama levels as well

[wintry forge]

Dang, like a motion sickness thing? Might be from the speed

[ancient basalt]

Should I slow down the game?

[frail bloom]

Do whatever helps

Maybe turn off motion blur

Slow the game down a bit if you want

Use the options to best fit you

[harsh egret]

i remember seeing some people say that they had motion sickness from 2016 and eternal but not from tda

[wintry forge]

If it’s doing that, absolutely. Maybe 80% speed? Whatever suits you until you can get used to it!

[harsh egret]

differs from person to person obv

[wintry forge]

It’s in the settings menu

[ancient basalt]

I had from 2016 and now from TDA, but not from Eternal

[harsh egret]

damn

[ancient basalt]

Got it

Thank you

[wintry forge]

Heck yeah!

[wintry forge]

I know a guy or two that had the same problem. Just a fast game is all, not everybody is used to it

[solar spoke]

Whatever suits your playstyle, probably keep it at 90% just to get a feel for the loop before getting used to it

[frail bloom]

We got a real funny guy

[young schooner]

I think most tend to believe Infernal Chasm is the standout track of TDA, but I think my favorite track might be Unholy Siege at the moment.

[obsidian shard]

Dark Ages has too many stand out tracks

[slender night]

I adore Ancestral Beast

[frail bloom]

I would consider what Lies Below to be the most standout, it doesn't feel like anything else in game

With the drum pattern and riffage

[harsh egret]

might be my nr1 track atm

[frail bloom]

But my fav might be from the ashes or unholy siege

[young schooner]

It is a fantastic track and I think the buildup and tone of the track is so good. The title of the song places the whole "siege of hell" framing at the forefront but as I listened to it in-game it felt more like a track signifying the return of the Slayer, as a Sentinel warrior and not a slave to the Maykrs. An excellent track to pick as the Slayer's first fight in the game he is taking of his own free will.

[obsidian shard]

Atlan Battleground
Infernal Chasm
WTSFL
Unchained Predator
What Lies Below
Into The Void
Unholy Siege
Blood Red
Battle On the Blackened Tide
And From the Ashes

[frail bloom]

Yup those are the certified bangers

[young schooner]

Like if my brain were to encapsulate who the Slayer is to the Sentinels as a hero, Unholy Siege is the perfect descriptor.

[obsidian shard]

Of course their are the boss tracks as well

[harsh egret]

Colossus Unleashed is so fkin good

[obsidian shard]

Pursuit of Demons, Hellspawn Rift and Colossus Unleashed are also magnificent tracks, and are quite memorable and fit their level perfectly imo, but the other ones are just certified 10/10 BANGERS for me

[frail bloom]

Hmmm

[obsidian shard]

The chanting

[frail bloom]

Eh

[twilit stone]

Ancestral Beast is my fav because it gives me Quake II vibes, that's literally the only reason

[frosty roost]

all of those bangers are certified PEAK

[harsh egret]

3:07 on colossus unleashed is too good

[young schooner]

What Lies Below is fucking awesome.

[obsidian shard]

Atlan Battleground is one of my favourite!
its like a BFG Division with more guitars in the lead

also how ya doin M0no?

[young schooner]

My three favorite tracks are probably Unholy Siege, What Lies Below, and Apotheosis. That last track rocks so hard and fits the tone perfectly.

[slender night]

Infernal Chasm convinced me to buy the game

[twilit stone]

What Lies Below was my favourite when I first played it. It's still solid, but I've grown on other tracks since. There's this one part in Atlan Battleground that sticks out a lot to me

[young schooner]

I'm alright. Been seeing the 25th anniversary showings of LOTR this weekend; second one starts in 20 minutes.

[harsh egret]

oh yeah i forgot about apotheosis lmao that one is also such a banger

GooDude's mix goes crazy

[obsidian shard]

SWEET, My brother watched the first yesterday funny enough

[young schooner]

But yeah Apotheosis nails the tone of feeling like it is coming straight from how fucking terrified Ahzrak must be during that final boss phase. The screeching guitar and stuff is so good.

[slender night]

The inverse of Wolfenstein's "Prototype"

[frosty roost]

mine are Unholy Siege, Unchained Predator, What Lies Below, Into The Void and Apotheosis

reason of Apotheosis is because Ahzrak knew he fucked up bad during the boss fight

[harsh egret]

ill need to update my tier list

[young schooner]

Also From the Ashes is great. Giving the Slayer his own motif is so good.

[frosty roost]

did y'all also know the four notes when the slayer approaches Ahzrak before killing him was Serrat's theme? pretty awesome detail

[young schooner]

Yeah it feels overwhelmingly like Ahzrak's "holy shit I'm so fucked" track.

[frosty roost]

yeaaaah, it's so good!

[young schooner]

Really cool detail to emphasize why Ahzrak lost, a reason he can't understand.

Also Ancestral Beast is a banger too.

[frosty roost]

ancestral beast is so great, the drums in the beginning though

[slender night]

I love it the main melody being sourced from Nobody Told Me About Id, fits thematically

[twilit stone]

That whole level is just BIG, like fucking big, purely from a visual perspective, and the track elevates that even more

[harsh egret]

alright I've updated my tda track tier list
#screenshots message

[twilit stone]

Yes!! Ugh makes me wish more TDA tracks had classic doom motifs

[fleet spruce]

love Blood Spill, you can feel that Ahzrak's confidence is slowly fading away as fight goes on

[young schooner]

Maybe it's just me but I have a lot of trouble recognizing the classic references in TDA's soundtrack. Hoping to find a video that points them out.

[slender night]

I didn't recognize it in Ancestral Beast at first either

Actually, do you recognize it now? I can point you to what it is if not

[young schooner]

I'll have to listen to it again and I'm at the theatres. I will later.

[slender night]

Sounds good

It's the kind of brassy sound in the background of the original

[wintry forge]

Never let bro rank again 🥀
Blood Red in C is a crime

[harsh egret]

too repetitive for me xd

[wintry forge]

Into the Void is more repetitive

Repetitive doesn’t mean bad 😭

[harsh egret]

imo into the void is alot less repetitive

and it sounds alot cooler to me

[fervent maple]

Blood Red is repetitive, but I love it nonetheless

Slipknot in Doom is fucking awesome

[wintry forge]

It’s got the same 4 notes the whole track

I’m not hating by any means. It’s tied for first imo, but I think it’s still more repetitive then Blood Red

[harsh egret]

the repetitiveness is also why i dont really like infernal chasm
and ive heard that track so much non stop in every big fight in every hell level that i just grew tired of it even in my 2nd playthrough 😭

[wintry forge]

That’s kinda fair

I will defend Blood Red til I die

[fervent maple]

The OST version of Blood Red kinda sucks, it doesn't sound nearly as good to me

[wintry forge]

It’s not the best mix of it, I agree

I don’t think it’s a bad mix, just far from the best

[fervent maple]

In-game it's really good, but I dunno what happened with the mixing of the final one

[wintry forge]

Absolutely

[fervent maple]

I hope the DLC gets a proper OST release

[wintry forge]

The OST mix of Apotheosis suffers the same issue

[fervent maple]

And doesn't have as much odd mixing

[wintry forge]

I’m sure it will! They had the main game completely figured out right with the launch. If FM is doing it, I’m sure it’ll be fine

[fervent maple]

Apotheosis, Ancestral Beast, and Blood Red feel very... I dunno, empty? Not only are chunks of them missing, the mixing on them makes the percussion really loud compared to every other instrument (at least on my setup)

[wintry forge]

A lot of important segments are missing in every one of those. Their probably heavier on percussion because their not as compressed as they are in game, different mixing. and on top of that, the OST release probably tries to maximize the cinematic effects

[fervent maple]

I figured that they're cut down mostly to accommodate for time. I'm guessing they still get paid for minutes and allocated all that beforehand. I could be completely wrong, though.

[frail bloom]

Waiting for it feels like torture

Bc I know they're cooking up some gourmet

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-piano-music-gif-11016376031114117781

More Cosmic Realm riffs incoming

[frail bloom]

I need it

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

I hope they had all the time they need

[slender night]

Infernal Chasm is top 3 DOOM tracks man 💔

[harsh egret]

🤷‍♂️

it has like a 20 sec segment that i like then the rest feels like the same thing over and over

but yh like Icon said, repetitiveness isnt always bad, its just that specific track for me

[wintry forge]

Idk man, Andrew and David only had a month for TAG1 and they delivered big time

[frail bloom]

Ik, no one should only have a month to do such a big task, imagine the stress

They deserved more time then that

[wintry forge]

That was only for 3 levels (6-7 tracks) so I’m sure double that size with 4 people they’d have much more time than a month

They likely started it before TDA launched

Id imagine, at least

[frail bloom]

I just hope it's going well, Ik the music is gonna be bangin

[harsh egret]

also it was 2 ppl who worked together but from home, these 4 guys r prob in the same studio working together which is alot more efficient

[versed quarry]

“6-7 tracks” I’m sorry

[solid nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-dj-khaled-stare-staring-gif-12448808

[wintry forge]

Tag 1 had intro, Atlantica, blood swamps, maligog, the holt, samur, and credits theme

Not to mention all of David’s cutscene tracks

So like, 10 ish tracks

[versed quarry]

No I was making a 67 joke

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-have-i-done-harry-osborn-regret-i-cant-no-no-no-gif-15746065027860008830

What have I done…

[frail bloom]

Ik it's different and all but we can all agree that they should have atleast 3 months to work on them

Ok well I don't speak for all but using reason I would hope for atleast 3

[harsh egret]

of course lol

i bet they got a lot more than that

[frail bloom]

Ye they're cooking up sum crazy cosmic delicacy and I have yet to hear it

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-gif-40123618314459872

[grim cloud]

Still behind on streams. Time to watch the last one soon. I’ll be making doom levels while listening

Need to finish this megawad so I can move onto other doom projects like eternal modding

[uneven mortar]

Is there any new info on DLC

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1461570028683137054/Archvile_will_return_in_DOOM_The_Dark_Age_1.png?ex=696d02e9&is=696bb169&hm=24df49a4ad81bc5a1742b35c9f864ee683bb4735d0d043c1cdd48542b9bb27a8&

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[versed quarry]

Shouldn't it be the Eternal logo because the archvile appears in Eternal not The Dark Ages

[obsidian shard]

its coming to dark ages tho

[versed quarry]

Also, semi-unrelated, but I just played Wolfenstein for the first time

[solar spoke]

has anyone ever gotten rag dolled out of the first arena just after collecting the blue totem in Harbour of Souls by the Komodo before? I got knocked out of bounds by it and spawned in the point after the arena with the lift and couldn't get back in

[versed quarry]

I thought the trailers are only supposed to say "character will return" for a movie that the character is in, so that the fans of the character will see the other movie as well

[uneven mortar]

Is this real?

[obsidian shard]

yyes

[unkempt dragon]

ye

[uneven mortar]

Awesome

[obsidian shard]

its based on the Doomsday ones

[uneven mortar]

55 archviles 55 barons 55 cyberdemons 55 komodos

[versed quarry]

I stopped caring about marvel a while ago so I don't know what those are

[uneven mortar]

I wonder if Archviles will be super heavies

[versed quarry]

presumably

[uneven mortar]

I hope theyre tanky

[warm ibex]

tanky... hell tanks...

jesus christ what if they summon hell tanks

[uneven mortar]

Its kind of funny how insanely weak hell tanks are

[harsh egret]

what if the archviles were the hell tanks all along

[uneven mortar]

Probably the weirdest appearance to actual health ratio in the game

[versed quarry]

Archviles summoning more dragon levels

[quaint wolf]

Awesome movies are coming, guys!

This is literally epic

[uneven mortar]

They should make a doom movie that isnt buns

Just make it like an animated john wick

[warm ibex]

you know who the archvile can't resurrect?

[versed quarry]

Serrat

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-dragon-serrat-gif-14694297918124632016

[uneven mortar]

Zombie dragon levels where hes half the speed

[slender night]

Another Arch-vile 🤓

[warm ibex]

yet

[versed quarry]

Someone has probably modded it in somewhere

[wintry forge]

#merch-showcase for peak

[wintry forge]

Imagine TDA’s Archvile summoning champion Vagaries/ Komodos

[alpine pilot]

DOOT

[frail bloom]

I'd imagine they'll go the ressurecting route

At least I'd hope so

[wintry forge]

No idea. They didn’t really last game. It’s hard to do that when dead enemies disappear, but we’ll see

[frail bloom]

Well the gibs stay and I had the idea that he ressurects orange hologram versions from the gibs, and they'd be like davoth's spectral minions. Noooo idea if that's possible

[wintry forge]

Gibs disappear after 15 or so seconds right?

[frail bloom]

I've never seen the gibs disappear

[wintry forge]

I think they do, I’ve seen them disappear

They just stay considerably longer than the previous games’

[frail bloom]

Uh idk I might check

Does it disappear during battle?

[wintry forge]

If that’s the case tho, maybe that’ll be the small window the Archvile will have to resurrect them

[unkempt dragon]

I'm off to watch Lord of the Rings in theater but wanna say hi guys

[frail bloom]

Hello and have fun watching peak of peak

[wintry forge]

Yooo enjoy!

[unkempt dragon]

ty!🔥

[frail bloom]

I think that's balanced

Make him run around like mad man

[obsidian shard]

Incorrect, gibs stay

[wintry forge]

I’ve seen them disappear wym 😭😭

[obsidian shard]

Bigger pieces do, but general gibs stay

Have you not seen LEG

[wintry forge]

I’ve seen cyberdemons disappear after fighting, lots of heavies as well

I’ve seen fodder stay for the most part but

I wonder what the conditions are for staying then. I’ve seen some stay, but many of them go. Hmmm

[wintry forge]

I want skinwalker vibes

Tall and lanky, quick af

[solid nacelle]

The corpses disappear, it's the small pieces that get shot off that stay

[frail bloom]

I feel the same too

Erratic, unpredictable, fast

[wintry forge]

Hmm, maybe they’ll Archvile can work with that then

[frail bloom]

A demon that will make me scared

And not scared bc he'll end my un run

That's different

[wintry forge]

I haven’t had a demon genuinely scare me since the og Archvile

[frail bloom]

Ik it's been too damn long

Time to rekindle that flame

Hur hur get it

[wintry forge]

I take it back, the first baron appearance in Kadinigr Sanctum scared tf outta me. It didn’t hit as terrifying, but it was spooky

[frail bloom]

I take it as badass

Except he was fighting fodder so idk anymore

Def intimidating

It's def hard to do bc we're so powerful but if he's fast enough I'll be afraid to deal with him and remember his pattern

But at some point I gotta learn

[wintry forge]

Yeah, I’m trying to think of a time in Eternal that caught he off guard but the Slayer was too effing strong to make me feel an ounce of fear

[frail bloom]

He's too much of a coward in Eternal, constantly teleporting, cheaply hitting me through geometry. He's scary cuz he might end my run, not bc he's a challenge

He's also goofy as hell he's scared of the slayer

[wintry forge]

The first appearance of the Old One as well as the Cosmic Realm hit some Megalophobia and thalassophobia parts of my brain, but that’s not really much of a spooky demon experience lmao

[frail bloom]

Makes me wanna kill him

[wintry forge]

He’s just standing around so much 😭

[frail bloom]

That's more of that atmospheric Doom 3 stuff I like

[frail bloom]

Ye occasionally turns his head and then tries spawning demons while looking at me. He's missing half his brain ngl

[wintry forge]

Literally. That’s what made doom 3’s Hell the scariest Doom Hell to date

[solid nacelle]

I like how he has walking animations but doesn't actually walk around

[wintry forge]

He better be hard to catch in TDA DLC. Teleporting AND running around like a madman

[green estuary]

hell nah

[frail bloom]

Me personally no teleporting

[green estuary]

we already have one teleporting asshole

[frail bloom]

I want him to just be so fast he might aswell be teleporting

[green estuary]

I just need him to have a big health bar and a tough moveset

[frail bloom]

He's also gotta be more of a memorization enemy

With a weird moveset

[solid nacelle]

I want something I can heavily abuse in my ripatorium presets

[frail bloom]

I feel like I'm asking for a lot

For one enemy too

Idk that's his legacy he needs to be cool

He needs to

[solid nacelle]

I just want him to not stand around that's literally it

[frail bloom]

Ye atleast be fun to fight

And have the design be intimidating and terrify me a bit

Wait

Imagine he ran on all fours and it had like a 5% chance of happening

I'd crap my pants

Boi that's terrifying

[warm ibex]

heavies and fodder stay, and I think bits and pieces of super heavies. you can get the imp stalker's head and right arm to stay sometimes, pretty sick https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1462218438297780387/image.png?ex=696d648a&is=696c130a&hm=3ad5c4a9fafecc9e0a7bc9ff05936d571fe95a9633cdd8b9cdd99952dea1e388 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1462218457583190088/image.png?ex=696d648e&is=696c130e&hm=79b2a19ae64b471b853d3f68cad351ec6b3b6913c59dac420b025306f13521bb

[obsidian shard]

Stuff stays more in the Ripatorium I notice

[wintry forge]

That’s sick! I wasn’t sure of the conditions. That’s interesting

I hope the Archvile can take advantage of that stuff

Do they disappear for certain after the arena encounter?

[green estuary]

it would be really sick if the archvile would resurrect the demon but instead of the whole model being revived, it would use all the bits and pieces of the demon still present on the ground and then fill in the "gaps", so to speak, with some hellish magic effect

[warm ibex]

I've noticed that too, although those two screenshots are in the campaign

[obsidian shard]

It would be so peak

[warm ibex]

I believe those screenshots were taken after I finished the arena, moved on and then came back

so it seems like they stay until you cross a point of no return

[solar spoke]

I remember playing DOOM 3 for the first time and feeling dread when I first saw the Pinky turn up on that railing. Didn't last long but still memorable

[wintry forge]

That’s awesome. I’ll do some testing myself as well

Is it random? Or just every heavy

[frail bloom]

Ye like I said, Davoth spectral demons

[frail bloom]

I did jump a little when he broke through the glass

[solar spoke]

yeah, tries the door first an then he tricks me with the window

[warm ibex]

not sure exactly what causes them to stay or if it's only limited to certain demons, I haven't tested unfortunately

[frail bloom]

Do y'all think he'll have armor

Maybe have a champion variant

[green estuary]

I very much doubt he'll have armor

my gut tells me he'll be treated somewhat similarly to the cosmic baron

no variants or minibosses, just the enemy

[frail bloom]

Hmmm

My gut says different

[warm ibex]

the gib possibilities are awesome though https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1462220331291906090/image.png?ex=696d664d&is=696c14cd&hm=fc5c42aa9e0125bf93cdea5b63de6f84354fd898a873510ab80a67499fa8a691 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1462220358030725332/image.png?ex=696d6654&is=696c14d4&hm=f8db360b00b7a70f26ae84dab2fe62095ae086d39417c19cfe1adabb6c20a462

[frail bloom]

I've never seen that

[warm ibex]

I believe I've seen the cyberdemon head/arm before. I don't normally stick around and look though, and super heavy gibs might not stay for more than a few seconds

[frail bloom]

Oh makes sense

[solar spoke]

give those demons some new torsos and a bit of Archvile wizardry and they're good as new

[harsh egret]

Now post the mancubus one

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1462222969064522015/maude-boutin-swordsgore.png?ex=696d68c2&is=696c1742&hm=b5dcb682d6dcf000bbad21eb4b955ed483e7542b09a61e7ec0f20dee33493141&

this render specifically is just hilarious

[elder raven]

dont show jay

[wintry forge]

I wonder if gibs stay for body parts that get blown off while the demon is still alive. Like the Hell Knights and Mancubi when they’re still waltzing around without their arms lmao

[wintry forge]

Jaycool after he 1v1s Horde at QC

[elder raven]

are the mancubi and the hell knight the only demons that can be dismembered?

[wintry forge]

That’s a good question. Maybe the Barons too. Id have to go check cuz I don’t remember off the top of my head

Imp stalkers too I think?

[versed quarry]

"Oh... that's gore of my comfort character"

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-shock-shocked-flabbergasted-surprised-gif-6472373116831647779

[frosty roost]

speaking of jay lmao

[obsidian shard]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT

[frosty roost]

IT WASN'T ME

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[warm ibex]

aw HELL nah, what did they do to jaycool

[obsidian shard]

Not if I eat him first

[elder raven]

Beloved Mancubus of the DOOM Community, SneakyJaycool, murdered after a gruesome encounter with the Slayer. Please send thoughts and prayers for the demon community at this time.

[warm ibex]

this reminded me that glory kills in Shadow Warrior 3 let you pull off part of an enemy and use it as a weapon. genuinely awesome spin on the glory kill format

[wintry forge]

Nah dw you can resurrect as the cyber mancubus

[wintry forge]

That’s sick af

Honestly I thought of something like this before tda was revealed, like I was wondering how they’d innovate and keep the gk system fresh in the next doom. I thought about something similar to that. I also remembered the cut shotgun gk’s from 2016.

That would’ve been awesome to see if id software didn’t decide to change it entirely

[obsidian shard]

Ahhh helll naw

[harsh egret]

Lmao

[frosty roost]

wait do you mean me or no?

[solar spoke]

It looks like the blobfish meme lol

[frail bloom]

Your poll is blasphemous

BLASPHEMOUS

61% Hell Archvile

https://tenor.com/view/viking-jump-gif-9292002945843418571

Democracy has spoken

[versed quarry]

Pulling a mancubus arm canon off and using it as a weapon would be cool as Hell

[frail bloom]

Ye use it for like 10 seconds before it explodes and you got to throw it

[solar spoke]

I'd love to be able to take the whiplash whip and use it against other demons

[spice oak]

I’m about to do Dark Ages on nightmare is there any tips on certain things I should do throughout my play through?

[obsidian shard]

Parry

[spice oak]

Oh you might be right

[obsidian shard]

Prioritize pressure units like the arachno

[spice oak]

Ok thanks

[lofty flame]

Dark ages is boring to me

[frail bloom]

Ah well

Can't win em all

[obsidian shard]

Doom Dark ages DLC when

[frail bloom]

My mortal enemy

DLC when

We meet again

[obsidian shard]

[light pawn]

im debating on trying the dark ages again, the first time I played it I had a really hard time getting into it. Anyone else have the same issue?

[spice oak]

Yea my friend said he likes it but also said it’s a bit boring compared to the other games

[lofty flame]

I’m his friend and I agree

[frail bloom]

Try it

Had lots of updates since then

[light pawn]

I have it dowloading right now.

[frail bloom]

Ye gamplay is smoother, new mode, lots of qol changes

Melee and rune swap included

[fading bone]

dark ages is peak

[thin hound]

Is it normal for Doom the Dark Ages to have a tiny blip in the frametime every couple minutes when GPU bound? It's super flat and smooth other than those tiny blips here and there. I feel like I'm going crazy worrying it's a problem with my PC and that I need to do a Windows reinstall. However, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is perfectly flat with its frametimes even when moving the camera for 10 minutes straight while being GPU bound.

[fleet spruce]

Yeah, and when you try to cater to everyone you end up catering to none (something most companies these days still can't learn)

[obsidian horizon]

can i get some help with a ingame issue dm for more infor and the screenshot

[sudden marsh]

Doom slayer in DOOM the Dark Ages is a tank

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/serrat-serrat-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-doom-dark-ages-gif-8832286089659534552

[slender night]

I went through the game on Uber now and I did not think it was as bad as you guys are describing tbh

[fleet spruce]

still tough as balls tho

[slender night]

It was easier than I expected, honestly. The final fight wrecked me and so did the hangar area in London but nothing else really comes to mind

There was a lot of leaning tho yeah

Big contrast to TDA where I got through the first level on UN by just not being careful at all

[fleet spruce]

hangar in london nautica is actually not bad , however when you get back there after the moon... that one is a real ball buster

barely any ammo , no armor

you die almost as soon as you peek out

[fading bone]

first time completing through siege 1 deathless

[green estuary]

it's not terrible
but a lot of that comes from knowing what's coming in the fights

if I took my current skill level and did a blind playthrough of something like eternal on nightmare versus TNO on uber, TNO is undoubtedly harder
but if you have even just a general idea of how the fights are structured, then TNO becomes much easier because the mechanical complexity it has to offer is much lower than something like a modern doom game

[solar spoke]

I keep getting so close to beating Arachnophobia but it goes wrong everytime on round 5

[spark totem]

anyone know what the root file of Doom The Dark Ages is?? (Steam version)

[lethal tree]

I deleted my save by accedent can i reverse it

[solar spoke]

what platform you on?

[wintry forge]

On pc?

[lethal tree]

Playstation

[wintry forge]

If it’s on pc you might be able to find it In your local files, but it’s not guaranteed

Hmm. I don’t think so. Is it backed up in the cloud?

[solar spoke]

Good chance you could get it off PS+ if you're subscribed

the save file I mean

[lethal tree]

How do you do that

[solar spoke]

you go into the PS+ menu and check your cloud storage. If you have autosynch enabled then your save file should be accessible at the top of strorage or near the top

[heady trout]

okay im convinced

the arachnotron with the mines is singlehandedly the worst enemy in the game

it literally blocks out an area and deals stupidly high dps

at least the vagaries spit has less range

but im fighting this guy and a aggadon but nope! Mine spam yippe! Bye to your shield and then the aggadon gets a free hit in

and i die

like, idk theres a particular set of enemies in this game that baffle me

acolyte, both arachnotrons (especially the mine one), invisible imps, Komodos, Cacodemon Hybrid

every time i die to them it feels like complete bs

when I die to the others I can look at myself and go 'I fumbled'' but with these guys not so much

belly of the beast puts these mine arachontrons next to a vagary and later to a aggadon and its so fucking annoying

honestly belly of the beast sucks

these arenas are just the most annoying enemy combos

acolyte leader and cosmic baron? yay, its either a five second encounter or a long, deadly one, bc the acolyte has that window before it starts playing hide and seek which is lame

[frail bloom]

Nah

[heady trout]

okay i exxagerated

[empty furnace]

so does that mean i should put 3 cosmic barons with 3 aggadon hunters in a single ripatorium encounter

[heady trout]

its one of the worst

[frail bloom]

Ye look at the essay you wrote

[heady trout]

rookie numbers, add acoyltes

[heady trout]

why cant people elaborate on their points

[frail bloom]

You can I'm just making fun of you

[heady trout]

ok

[empty furnace]

ight bet

[frail bloom]

Cuz I'm annoying

The worst enemy award goes to the caco

Shrimple as that

[heady trout]

i think its a tie between caco, acolyte, mine arachontron and some others

like seriously who tf likes fighting the acolyte

yay hide and seek in my modern doom game!

[empty furnace]

me

[heady trout]

good for you

[frail bloom]

It's not that bad c'mon now

[heady trout]

we interrupt your combat to find a lil bitch that hides away

[frail bloom]

Arachnotron has very little health

[heady trout]

thats not the problem

its the same thing with the archville, the acolytes hide and seek and the combat just loses the flow bc now you have to look for glass cannon enemy

[frail bloom]

I mean you could just not like that type of enemy

I dislikethe acolyte not bc it's "terribly designed"

[empty furnace]

i think the acolyte is way better than the archvile

[frail bloom]

It makes its own areas of denial and you gotta juggle other demons while looking for the copy

[heady trout]

luckily i didnt say that hes terribly designed, I find them unfun to fight

[frail bloom]

That's fair

I dislike fighting him too

[heady trout]

at least when the archville isnt hiding its sort of a fight if you arent using the ice bomb and double lock on burst combo

when you find the acolyte its over

theres not even a possible reward combat encounter after

im more pissed off at the tda demons I find unfun to fight bc theres just so many i adore fighting

[empty furnace]

the only enemy i dislike are arachnotrons because they got a thing for 3rd partying

[heady trout]

lame af yeah

[frail bloom]

I like the 3rd partying it keeps me on my toes

[heady trout]

i find it lame

[frail bloom]

I like dealing with it

Especially bc his health is so pathetic

It gives me that classic doom feeling of trying to run around behind other demons so I don't get sniped by the hitscanners

Having the shield helps

[heady trout]

omg the same garbage again

i kill the arachnotron and the bombs they leave kill my shield and a super heavy gets a free lick in

I WENT FIRST FOR IT, but it just wasnt enough

and i die

yeah no this enemy is my least favourite, these isolated incidents just drive me nuts genuinenly, I ALREADY KILLED IT and it still kills me like 5 seconds after with its mines

when this guy appears the encounter just loses so much fun factor its silly

they LOVE putting him when theres a super heavy around too

[fleet spruce]

from the grave

[obsidian shard]

avoid the mines

[heady trout]

arachntron and acolyte and sometimes even revenants just kinda boil down to ''ignore the other enemies kill them first'' and its kind of lame

the whole point of target prioritization is to give a choice, not a order of what to do

if you DONT hunt these guys down first then good luck

[solar spoke]

Nah, the WOAT is the Imp Stalker. They vex me to no end

[heady trout]

revenant is better bc theres an actual choice in prioritizing him though

you can leave him in the background and parry his shit while fighting other demons

but acolyte and the mine arachnotron? Choose NOT to hunt them down first and your experience will be 10 times worse

doom eternal and tda already have good target prioritization choices but they add these extra garbo demons that dont give a choice, but force you to hunt them down first and foremost

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-falemplays-anime-adventures-gpo-anime-gif-7694698303480816377

How dare you

My second fav enemy

[green estuary]

bro only likes them because they have aura

[fleet spruce]

tbh you can say the same about Archvile in classic Doom - either you take it out right now or he will fry your ass while resurrecting dead enemies, making your life miserable

[frail bloom]

Nah they're fun to fight too

I could kill 60 of those

On loop

Forever

[heady trout]

yeah but Doom 2 is old, they were still learning

[frail bloom]

I can't wait for him to do the same in this dlc

[heady trout]

nowadays youd think they would learn these ''kill them now'' enemies arent that great

[frail bloom]

The doom 2 archvile has been masterfully used in many wads since doom 2

He's a great enemy

I guess the only difference is that he's more naturally implemented

And his simple nature works in many contexts

[fleet spruce]

wall opens to reveal 5 fucking archviles near the fresh baron and revenant corpses

[frail bloom]

Like I said

m a s t e r f u l

[fleet spruce]

yeah I just seen enough of similar setups that i stopped flinching long ago

[frail bloom]

I remember one wad where he's on a raising platform and you gotta hide behind other platforms and it was weird and fun

Wait I think it was the master levels wad

[fleet spruce]

That's actually pretty cool use for gameplay you wouldn't expect

[frail bloom]

Ye point is he works in a lot of contexts

[fleet spruce]

i remember that Doom Zero had these levels where you had to sneak without alerting monsters all while having 1 hp

[frail bloom]

Yes and you had 3 keys to choose from for 3 rooms

And a mastermind at the end

Masterful wad, impeccable

Yo and the boss??

[fleet spruce]

yeah i enjoyed playing it as well

[frail bloom]

Cool as hell

The boss actually looks like a titan from the modern games

#Doom Zero witch boss for atlan in the dlc

[fleet spruce]

It takes plenty of nudoom actually, it even ends with entombment

[frail bloom]

Ye loved every second of it

[fleet spruce]

i just remembered that one level near the end of Eviternity 2 iirc, where you had to pass various trials in order to progress

like shoot without alerting monsters, kill cyberdemons with single bfg shot and etc

or even direct a barrel lmao

it also had a whole ass literal puzzle in it, had to arrange an image

[craggy ice]

Finally got the Dark Ages set for performance and fuck it feels badass to play.

[frosty roost]

lets go!!

[craggy ice]

I'm holding back my opinions about the story until I complete it.

[thin hound]

How far have you gotten now?

[craggy ice]

I got through chapter two . . . Yes, I am slow but that's what I plan on doing, I'm taking my time onto this, its also due to playing several other games too.

[heady trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388567765475922053/1462573751911710923/my-image_1_2.png?ex=696eaf73&is=696d5df3&hm=3a322af0b8872c49fff427a18226cae77d8b6c6c10961775f78641d69771d86e&

honestly if they removed the demons in the lowest tier entirely i would be happy but i know thats not possible

they are THIS close to being somewhat comparable to Tag 2 garbo

especially the arachnotron, caco and acolyte

[solid nacelle]

I strongly dislike this games cacodemon

The design is fine but the gameplay is not it

Doesn't help that one of his attacks is bugged

[thin hound]

This guy should be known as The Ancient Gods - Part Two Hater

[heady trout]

my problem with the demons in the lowest tiers is they INTERRUPT the combat, Im forced to give them nearly all my attention and soon, or else the encounter becomes a pain in the ass

i prefer when im fighting all the demons, not ONE and mostly ignoring the others to kill it

tbf though the invisible imp i just find annoying, thats it, like ''woah game you caught me'' for the 500th time, it loses its charm fast

[frosty roost]

this tier list is so truthful, I hate the arachnotrons (i think that's what they're called) i hate them with a passion

[heady trout]

yeah thats what they are called

[frosty roost]

okay thanks lol, been a while since i've replayed TDA

[heady trout]

legitimately they scored so many Ws with the demons gameplay design and then theres like 4 that are complete dookie

at least Eternal waited until the second dlc to introduce crap demons

eh actually the archville and whiplash were always there

[slender night]

Archvile crap ok man

They're lanky and beefy and you know what that means

The bigger they are the bigger they fall

Super satisfying kills even if they're cheap 😌

[solar spoke]

anyone think we'll get some new jumping glory kills for the archvile or just reused animations from the imp stalkers for killing them?

[thin hound]

Definitely some new ones, archvile is different from imp stalkers

[versed quarry]

I like archviles but the whiplashes are definitely not it

[cursive grotto]

Me too dude

It feels like half the time i'm just sitting around waiting for the long ass plasma beam sequence to end

Unable to do anything

[heady trout]

what's even worse is that to avoid that you have to shield saw him before he starts the stupid purple wall garbo

meaning you have to shield saw him, focus him with whatever weapon until he dies and that's boring

max shredder is good for that cause at least you can deal damage to the sorroundiimg demons while the game forces you to lock down onto the Cacos

[hearty edge]

wait is this hugo https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161412575788007574/1462597418745987254/2026014.JPG?ex=696ec57e&is=696d73fe&hm=ed48914ddb101ce4a04a3b6c35185e1809d0732eb8267198ceba6e266525ec1b&=&format=webp&width=1423&height=800

[warm ibex]

yeah lol

[hearty edge]

accurate except whiplash goes in the bottom tier

and i dont mind the acolyte that much

no wait i just remembered my incidents with it yea fuck it too

[heady trout]

Whiplashes would be in bottom tier if they used their ranged attacks more frequently

[hearty edge]

those ranged attacks are why i absolutely hate them in ripartorium

i feel like they get u from max to like 50

[analog python]

Just beat the game

[hearty edge]

right

[heady trout]

ironic how everytime i die its bc of the bs demons

its never due to the good ones

this is so annoying legitimately

like could a cosmic baron or cyberdemon kill me for a change?

these arenas become so fucking dull when all im doing for the first 40 seconds is hunting down all the arachnotrons holy

if i dont do that then i get spammed with mines

stuff like this is why ill never believe this game is better than Eternals main campaign

these enemies, in Eternal, as bullshit as the whiplash and carcass could be for example, I could use my air mobility and speed to avoid their bs, here im forced to deal with it head on

[green estuary]

have you considered perhaps killing them from something further away than point-blank range

[heady trout]

give me examples

[green estuary]

you have a shield throw

[heady trout]

what would that do against a armored demon

i need to remove its armor first

i suppose i could use rockets? but they are so slow and the arachnotrons could just dodge half of them if they felt like it from afar

im not sure the impaler is that good against armor

chainshot is mid range unfortunately

[green estuary]

the range on the mines aren't that extreme

[hearty edge]

me personally i haven't died to arachnotrons that much but imp stalkers, cacos, and acolytes yea

[green estuary]

arachnotrons in this current patch are used far less liberally than they were in previous ones--in the main campaign they're really not much of a threat outside of a few arenas here and there

[craggy ice]

I ended up 100% completing chapter one, and damn its a solid start to the game, not as manic as the opening for DOOM (2016) but pretty damn good.

[heady trout]

your missing the point, its not the mines that are a problem in a 1v1, its the fact that i have to kill the arachnotron and its a chore or else the mines will jumpscare me while im fighting another demon

[heady trout]

please tell me you play on nightmare like me

[green estuary]

how do the mines jumpscare you? they appear on your hud?

[hearty edge]

lock on rockets gg ez

[green estuary]

I've UNd the game on 300% damage and min parry, so yes

[craggy ice]

I'll have to say, hunting for secrets is easy in this DOOM title.

[heady trout]

im fighting a super heavy and suddenly the ground is full of mines, my shield is gone and the super heavy gets free hits and I die

[elder raven]

spire of nerathul:

[heady trout]

this happened twice

and if that doesnt happen im suddenly at 5 health

[hearty edge]

i feel that mostly boils down to you having the whole minimap from the start

[hearty edge]

except that of course

bs dragon exclusive treasures

[green estuary]

outside of some badly balanced ripatorium presets I've never had that happen tbh

[heady trout]

so many arenas in harbor of souls and the following levels force me to kill every arachnotron before anything else or else ill get suprised by 6 mines out of nowhere

[green estuary]

although I'll be the first to admit that I don't particularly like arachnotrons in TDA

[heady trout]

I could take my chances sure, but its a ballsy gamble

[analog python]

Beginning of a fun journey

The stressful kind of fun

[craggy ice]

I wished they kept earning a weapon earlier than expected like in DOOM (2016), was a real fun part of secret hunting.

[heady trout]

tbf though just now i got killed by a caco, the mfer just appearned nearby, started the purple wall bs while i was getting backshotted by some demons and i legitmately could not parry anything

[meager vortex]

https://x.com/RuV_2nd/status/1391040991814033409/photo/1

[heady trout]

my shield died and i went with it soon after

[craggy ice]

Oh definitely, It's a blast so far.

[analog python]

Yeah I just beat it like an hour ago and I really enjoyed it

[heady trout]

you know what would help with these garbo ''kill them before you kill anything else'' demons?

A radar, or something that tells me ''hey heres how many of these pricks your forced to kill are in the arena''

[craggy ice]

How's the Super Shotgun in this one? Still a solid choice?

[analog python]

You can 2 shot a mancubus with it

It’s pretty damn good

[craggy ice]

Even more important question, how does it feel?

[heady trout]

bc not only am i scouring for arachnotrons, but also cacodemons

[analog python]

It feels good to blast demons into next Tuesday

And it’s really good against the armored demons you’ll find as long as you upgrade it

[heady trout]

whatever im pissed off, ima go back to Eternal for now and when i get tired of that one ill go back to TDA, thats what ive been doing thus far and it works best when i quickly hop between both games

[craggy ice]

Damn, id Software nailed this game too it seems like, really nice job.

[meager vortex]

slayer said run! demons

[thin hound]

Super shotgun firing feels even better than in Eternal

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/run-forest-run-gif-1873151344036741066

[analog python]

While the ssg is very powerful all the guns are so fun that you’ll want to spread out your weapon use

[craggy ice]

Oh for sure, just thought that would be important to ask seeing as its my favorite weapon in the entirety of DOOM.

[hearty edge]

true

now that i think of it i believe that didnt even happen in eternal

[thin hound]

Absolutely, I can’t this stress enough when people say the game gets boring, and they’re only using one weapon the whole time

[hearty edge]

absolutely my main except for the like month after update 2 when it was unusable

[analog python]

And a little tip, the combat shotty essentially becomes a form of flame belch when you upgrade it, but don’t expect huge amounts of armor

[green estuary]

we don't talk about update 2

[thin hound]

Even though you technically don’t have to swap weapons as much, it still makes the game a whole lot more fun when you do really often

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

[analog python]

Yeah, I’d never go a big fight without using most of the loadout

[green estuary]

update 2 will be remembered as the SSG nerf and arachnotron spam update

[hearty edge]

wouldnt say really often but it does make it way more dynamic and fun when u know when to use each one

[hearty edge]

at least we got slow mo slider

[thin hound]

Yeah there was a lot of greatness in the updates

[craggy ice]

I think we need a multiplayer update in the future.

[analog python]

I hope

[thin hound]

I don’t think there will be one unfortunately

[hearty edge]

that would be very difficult i fear like

i think the whole engine was based around sp so

[green estuary]

if I had a nickel for every time update 2 to a modern doom game did something that really pissed people off, I'd have 2 nickels
which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice

[thin hound]

But there’s always Painkiller, which is a co-op game with similar weapons like the impaler

And also DOOM multiplayer and Quake Champions

[craggy ice]

I fucking wish that Quake could get the DOOM treatment, it deserves such.

[hearty edge]

chat i'm trying out pandemonium and i am on the part where u get to the first gold chest what upgrade do i get

[thin hound]

That’s what I hope is next, a singleplayer Quake game

[hearty edge]

quake 5 2027 trust

[thin hound]

No it wouldn’t continue the original games I’m sure

[green estuary]

by the end of hebeth, I always made sure I had the first shield upgrade and ricochet

[hearty edge]

bet

[thin hound]

Bet on what?

[hearty edge]

just bet

[thin hound]

Hebet

h

[craggy ice]

Yeah, we need to let DOOM breath and take a good break from any new DOOM games for a bit, let them focus onto Quake now, a reboot like what DOOM (2016) did would help revitalize the series for sure.

[thin hound]

Absolutely, where they left off the Slayer’s story is a good ending point

[hearty edge]

ngl i feel it'd be a bad decision to leave doom's ending point at the end of a badly received dlc

[craggy ice]

Let them improve upon The Dark Ages, remaster Quake III Arena and Quake 4, and make a new Quake game focused onto fixing and rebooting the series into a better direction.

[thin hound]

Well receive it better, supposed fan

[hearty edge]

but i do agree they should focus on other stuff rather than doom

[thin hound]

I loved The Ancient Gods

[elder raven]

starting work for my next preset rn

[hearty edge]

dont get me wrong i love tag especially tag 1 but still i would like an actual game to be the ending point of the saga rather than a dlc

[twilit stone]

TAG should've been the third nuDOOM, not TDA

[craggy ice]

@thin hound what are your thoughts on that?

[thin hound]

The DLC is just a continuation of the story though, if someone didn’t play it that’s their own fault

[thin hound]

I totally think they should keep going in the general direction of Quake Champions but with singleplayer, also take a lot of inspiration and elements from modern DOOM

[tropic adder]

'better direction'? are you implying that quake needs a better direction, other than it's old? ;o

[thin hound]

Maybe they can have Quake heavily tie into the Cosmic Realm, and have you play as a different character with unique abilities in each mission

Having multiple main characters to play as would differentiate it from DOOM I think

[craggy ice]

• Quake III Arena, Quake 4 are showing their age badly, they need a proper remaster and giving Quake III Arena a proper campaign wouldn't hurt.
• Quake Live & Quake Champions aren't what true Quake fans wanted and was the reason why Quake isn't as popular as it used to be, turning a boomer shooter series into a competitive shooter wasn't the best idea at all.
• They need to not oversaturate the market with so many DOOM titles, it will wear people out at some point.

[thin hound]

I watched some Quake 4 gameplay and it didn’t look like a better direction, I’ll say that

[thin hound]

Maybe we could get Nine Inch Nails and Andrew Hulshult back involved with the new game’s music

[craggy ice]

I think a Quake III campaign would help tie in the events of Quake II to Quake 4 would be perfect, and yeah I think Nine Inch Nails and Andrew Hulshult would be solid pics

[thin hound]

DOOM The Dark Ages is also the perfect transition game between the demonic elements of DOOM and the Lovecraftian Quake stuff

[mystic barn]

Problem is that the market for Quake is minuscule

[thin hound]

If they market it the same way as DOOM it should be more popular than DOOM was in 2016

[craggy ice]

Hence why a proper remaster of the two along with a reboot would be perfect.

[craggy ice]

Exactly.

[thin hound]

Let people know that this game was made by ID Software and has that DOOM FPS spark

[mystic barn]

That’s not intrinsically true. The stock market dictates what games are made and when. Because DOOM already fills the niche of AAA movement shooter, any subsequent Quake release will be in the shadow of DOOM’s already established foothold in the industry. Because of the bad press that Quake Champions has (in that it shares practically nothing with the original game, instead being a competitive shooter, a genre popular at the time; direct competition to Overwatch and CSGO), that has further tainted Quake’s name outside of our very tight knit community. As a result, Quake doesn’t have the same positive reputation as DOOM. A modern Quake runs the very high risk of flopping tremendously, and that’s a risk most execs aren’t willing to take

[thin hound]

We just need to show our excitement and support for it as much as possible then

[mystic barn]

That doesn’t mean much to the stock market. Vocal community support doesn’t get AAA games made, money does, and lots of it at that

[thin hound]

Wasn’t it a risk to make DOOM though?

[green estuary]

yes
but without that risk, id would've possibly gone under

now they are in the direct opposite situation--already maintaining an extremely successful game franchise, so the incentive to take another huge risk like that isn't really there

[thin hound]

That was the biggest clutch in gaming history then

[thin hound]

On the contrary, they have a ton of success and support so they can be confident that fans will buy and love whatever they make

[green estuary]

ehhhh
doesn't really work like that
obviously fans will tend to look at id games more favorably than games from other studios as a result of their reputation, but they still have their own opinions

[mystic barn]

Yes. But that doesn’t mean it won’t be riskier to make another Quake game. Games are never made to cater to the fans. When they are developed, they are made to suit a general audience’s abilities

[thin hound]

Sure, but don’t be so pessimistic

We can always hope

[mystic barn]

I’m not, I’m being realistic

[thin hound]

And honestly I’m not sure it’s realistic for them to continue making DOOM games with the way the story is

[twilit stone]

oh they will

[thin hound]

I guess they could, but then the Slayer would have like the busiest life possible during his time with the Sentinels

[mystic barn]

General audiences will skip cutscenes and story to get to the action in a DOOM game. id Software doesn’t have the same narrative-driven story telling of Rockstar. Despite how much they try, their niche is movement shooters

[harsh egret]

Well it sounds like they are changing that in the DLC to some degree and if that's something people enjoy more than the base game then they are likely going to pursuit that

[thin hound]

I don’t think they will change the story itself, just the way they do cutscenes

[twilit stone]

and besides I don't think I'd even want current id to do a Quake reboot, they'd probably "superheroify" it and glaze up Ranger into a lovecraft slaying God as well, when that just isn't what Quake is. Quake shouldn't be badass heavy metal pounding every five seconds, it should be uncomfortable, foreboding, unnerving

[harsh egret]

Also I'm not sure whats so wrong with "the way that the story is"

[thin hound]

Like I said, they could have you playing as multiple Quake Champions characters throughout the campaign

[mystic barn]

I think Quake 1 is the only example where that’s true. Every subsequent Quake has been heavy metal superheroes

[thin hound]

Nothing wrong with it, it just kind of leaves less room for more DOOM games

[twilit stone]

that's true but ideally if they do a Quake reboot, I don't think anyone would want it to be another Strogg game. And I like the Strogg but c'mon

[thin hound]

They either need to do a prequel or pull the Slayer out of retirement

But they need that heavy metal though, I don’t want some pure horror game

Nine Inch Nails and Hulshult!

[mystic barn]

Depends on what the stock market dictates. If it dictates that there needs to be a horde shooter, easy fodder would be the Strogg. DOOM is already doing the Lovecraftian horror thing, so I really doubt they’d dip back into that well

[thin hound]

But what if they introduced the Cosmic Realm to familiarize people with it before a new Quake?

[twilit stone]

that's the thing as well, now that DOOM's doing lovecraft stuff too, it basically guarantees a Quake 1 reboot ain't happening any time soon

[thin hound]

Maybe Ulsamir will be the main villain of the next Quake

[twilit stone]

a little bit, but not like constantly. Most of Quake's OST is not even close to heavy metal, it's DOOM 64 style ambient stuff

[thin hound]

And that’s good for ambience

But we need some Goroth level music for combat arenas

[mystic barn]

Again, that doesn’t mean much

[green estuary]

I honestly think a Quake 1 reboot could work as a game along the lines of titanfall 2
a solid single-player campaign but with more of a focus on multiplayer

[frail bloom]

No matter how many times Hugo says this game has nothing to do with quake, ppl still wanna draw connections

Even before release

Outright said had nothing to do with it

[green estuary]

I'm not drawing any connections between tda and quake lol

[frail bloom]

Not you

[mystic barn]

To be fair, I was on that train as well

[obsidian shard]

Also I'ma be real, if there is a new Quake, I don't think id will be making it

[frail bloom]

At most it references some quake things

[mystic barn]

Isn’t the Quake IP outsourced to Raven Software?

[green estuary]

I thought it was just microsoft who owned it

who also happen to own both id and raven

[harsh egret]

yeah its microsoft now

[obsidian shard]

Hell, the Upcoming Quake Boardgame has no id Software logos on it (so far)

[mystic barn]

I guess the point I’m making is that it wouldn’t be developed by id

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-rage-angry-annoyed-whatever-gif-5126333390325209476

[unkempt dragon]

Confirmed it is Microsoft, since they own ZeniMax and therefore id

[obsidian shard]

Hovertank 3D reboot when?

[green estuary]

I'm never gonna give up hope until they specifically tell us they're not planning on doing a quake 1 reboot

[obsidian shard]

Softdisc can give me the rights

[green estuary]

and even then I'll still probably find some copium to inhale

[harsh egret]

Idk I just remember Hugo giving off "if you wanna play quake, go play champions" vibes

[tropic adder]

Wdym aged badly? Quake 3 still runs perfectly when you have ppl to shoot with, it doesn't LOOK flashy, but who cares? the mechanics are still holding and will hold for years to come. it's still an excellent shooter. A campaign could be fun tho? But what will it say? Lol. Quake Live was awesome while it was free browser game. It only lost it's pop when it was monetized. Quake Champs tried hard to compete with Overwatch because it was the time of hero shooters. Still is. And... that's why it didn't go well with the old fans. And didn't go well with the new fans, probably cuz it somewhat ran like Q3.

As for the last statement - Yeah. Yeah that is going to happen most likely. T_T
(sorry for the ages late reply btw)

[obsidian shard]

No one talks about Quake Wars

[tropic adder]

I TALK about Quake Wars! I loved Quake Wars even if it was like Halo and nobody else liked it, but... that was the first time I could play a stroggy. T_T

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-i-knew-i-liked-you-dude-mr-boss-pim-smiling-friends-i-had-a-feeling-about-you-gif-10551168685928344768

[craggy ice]

Quake III isn't built for 1080p moniters, doesn't have controller support, and the lack of support for the game is telling, along with the single-player just being a shitty arena but with AI bots isn't good, no real campaign nor does it carry over what made Quake good

Quake and Quake II are games that aged like fine wine.

It's a game where John Carmack wanted a multiplayer so he sacrificed one of his coolest, most experimental IPs for a multiplayer only game, I thought it was an actual sequel, not a cheap multiplayer game.

They had RAGE, right? That would've been a good IP to be multiplayer only.

But no, RAGE flumped and now it's a dead IP.

[obsidian shard]

This convo reminds me of people complaining that TDA has no multiplayer.....

[green estuary]

games that don't rely on multiplayer will always age better than games that do

[craggy ice]

Quake was a single-player shooter first, and a multiplayer last.

They took Quake and made games that didn't have the charm nor the stuff that made Quake popular at the time and they kept on making more Quake games that weren't what people actually wanted and - thankfully - we get to see at least SOME new proper Quake with the Nightdive remasters and the new expansions for such.

[unkempt dragon]

I know you guys hate leaving this channel but this really should be in #general

please

[craggy ice]

Mass reacting to my stuff feels passive aggressive ngl

[unkempt dragon]

I agree

[harsh egret]

😭

[unkempt dragon]

@tropic adder Reacting to comments like a troll on top of your already continual rude behavior is not going to do you any favors here

[fading osprey]

Now that you mention it, it feels like a second general chat

[thin hound]

I think because it’s separated from the others

But it started off because we were relating Quake to The Dark Ages

[green estuary]

it's because general chat is usually, uh
a cesspool

[unkempt dragon]

Good. Trash took itself out

[fading osprey]

yeppers peppers

[craggy ice]

Dude was 'bout to test my patience.

[unkempt dragon]

Dude has been testing my patience for months now. Being civil is not that hard.

[fading osprey]

wait me?

[unkempt dragon]

no

[green estuary]

oh he gone lmao

[thin hound]

Honestly I like talking in here because in general they’re usually just talking about classic games and Hexen, which there are channels for already

[unkempt dragon]

Dude was incapable of speaking abt games without being a condescending prick

[fading osprey]

-# rlly hope i dont turn into him in the future

[thin hound]

Cyclone you’re cool

[unkempt dragon]

nah you're good

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-drones-lizzy-md-lizzy-murder-drones-v-md-v-murder-drones-gif-2825943617786363673

[fading osprey]

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[craggy ice]

Yeah your cool in my book

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[thin hound]

You said you’re only a fan of the new games, right Cyclone?

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I beat 2016 and I’m doing it again on UV

The classics look really cool, but I’m trying to get the new ones done first(TDA is out of my reach)

[thin hound]

It’s nice to have someone to relate to, I also only play the new games

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sick

[thin hound]

The Dark Ages can’t be processed by your hardware I’m assuming?

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Switch OLED gamer right here

But at least we got deluxe eternal(haven’t downloaded it yet)

[fleet spruce]

i hope you will get a hardware compatible with the Dark Ages 🫡

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same here

[thin hound]

Yes same

Win the lottery and buy a brand new PC

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PlayStation maybe

Maybe I’ll convince my folks when I’m older

[fleet spruce]

as a handheld PC user I'm glad my library is in my palms reach

whether classic Doom or The Dark Ages

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Think the steam machine might be worth it?

[fleet spruce]

It has decent specs so for stationary machine with convenient design pretty good choice

no idea what the price will be tho, ram shortage did a massive hit

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gonna be hella expensive

[harsh egret]

well it was delayed due to the ram prices, so it depends on if anything changes in the coming months prob

[craggy ice]

I am hoping the prices for PC parts will lower sometime in the future, it sucks and I'm fearing that I will be far behind in current gen gaming

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same here