the-dark-ages

[fading bone]

when i tried to ping mods it says it cant be posted because it contains content blocked by the server

what does that mean ive never seen that before

[foggy fable]

You tried the @ mods?

[fading bone]

yeah and LM

[foggy fable]

Odd

[empty furnace]

how many cosmic barons can i stuff into one ripatorium

[harsh egret]

3 per wave

[random sand]

wish it was possible to spam like 20 of 'em. that'd be funny

[harsh egret]

ye i do wish there wasnt a specific limit for each demon

the total demon count limit is fine tho

[random sand]

yeah it is fine. and i think i get why it's there. 20 vagarys in 1 arena would probably break the game 😭

[heady trout]

yeah i understand why the limit is there too

[empty furnace]

i can make that into 30 per round via respawn cycle

30 x 5 =150

[heady trout]

not to worry doe, you can combine a bazillion super heavy demoms for impossible wins without the bfc

[harsh egret]

ok, but should just increase the max at least by a little bit

max 8 maybe on the vagaries for example

[empty furnace]

did that last night, 5 rounds of pure chaos, ended up dying at round 5

[random sand]

yeah i think putting the limit at like 5 instead would be better

[harsh egret]

yh smth like that

[heady trout]

i tried spamming as many super heavies as possible and it was FUCKING impossible

[empty furnace]

i once tried 4 aggadon champions

[violet zealot]

Did you win

[meager vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KatibqdzhCE?feature=share

doom slayer:rip and tear!!!!

well slayer think angel is maykr bastard

and slayer he can rip and tear demons and angel

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

super shotgun reload sound on

angels and demons: oh! fuck

oh! slayer have a Seraphim powers

[empty furnace]

barely

[violet zealot]

Nice

[stone pasture]

Any news?

[versed quarry]

Me putting a morbillion demons into the ripatorium and my PC crashing

[violet zealot]

Dang

[fleet spruce]

the return of Nuts.wad

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[violet zealot]

Here?

[frail bloom]

Are ripatorium presets a tuneable?

I thought they might switch them up weekly or monthly but we still have the same ones

[violet zealot]

Presents!?!?!????

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-deadpool-ryan-reynolds-shocked-x-men-gif-10084931610038548160

[fleet spruce]

All i have is "coming soon"

didn't see any presets being added ever

[frail bloom]

Wait the official ones are gone?

Last time I checked they're still there

[fleet spruce]

I don't know because I never saw it change ever

[frail bloom]

All I have is the one's added in November

[brave pendant]

Whaddup gamers.

[violet zealot]

Sup

[harsh egret]

no, they are the same

pinging Kroniid is allowed so we could ask...

[violet zealot]

Dang I got to check all of this out!

[supple oracle]

should be

[frail bloom]

Y'know I don't think it's too much to know why they haven't changed in over a month

[solid beacon]

Artifact was like unmakyr
With three hunters had deal.

[hearty edge]

why does dlss balanced lowkenuinely perform better than dlss ultra performance

[green estuary]

perform better? as in more frames?

[heady trout]

lowkenuienly incredinomenally better?

[hearty edge]

like honestly idk if it's just me or the game has been optimized since i last played but i'm on a 3050 laptop (oof) and gameplay just feels way smoother on dlss performance/balanced than in ultra performance before

[green estuary]

probably because the graphics are prettier

although I think optimization has been tweaked slightly

[heady trout]

all i know is i put everything to low and the game still looks good and actually runs perfectly

[hearty edge]

and like i also kinda compared em fps and i look to be closer to 60 than before idk

and yea they're way preetier

[harsh egret]

SteamDB is showing they just changed some assets on tda 20 mins ago 😱

for the first time since december 1st

i think they are dropping the dlc right now

[hearty edge]

dlc be dropping like the slayer in the opening cutscene

[solar spoke]

would actually be really funny if the DLC was just a surprise launch

[harsh egret]

funny in the worst way possible

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/pumped-up-hype-gif-13746267

[stone pasture]

Guys the kreed ship during resurrection now has plasma walls inside and you can destroy the boss's shield the same with the plasma weapons

[warm ibex]

time traveler in the chat

[harsh egret]

been in the game for months now

[green estuary]

You’re about 5 months late, but you are correct

[warm ibex]

he's come from the past to warn us of a danger long past

[hearty edge]

dw guys he's from 1925

[stone pasture]

I was playing resurrection, check the kreed ship on that chapter

It is just adding like the plasma shields and some few stuff

[warm ibex]

yea they added that in like august

[stone pasture]

You can no longer infinite fire with berserk with the bfc

[hearty edge]

dang update 2 was that long ago

[harsh egret]

say it ain't so

[hearty edge]

he might have actually been frozen in carbonite for the last 6 months

[thin hound]

Aye you’ve got that hilarious BFG pic for your profile, love it

[wintry forge]

Did somebody say dlc?

[harsh egret]

where

[wintry forge]

[harsh egret]

any moment now...

[wintry forge]

Average doom discord convo

[solar spoke]

Where's Half-Life 3 at?

[stone pasture]

Check out screenshot

New dlc news

[autumn cedar]

What screenshot

[stone pasture]

Screenshots channel

[warm ibex]

one day soon we'll be able to say that and mean it

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-turn-to-dust-finnicklomlgif-gif-6202351048420329284

[wintry forge]

Raise your hand if you raced to the ss channel… be honest

[frail bloom]

Ye watch me send it on april 1st and fool you all

[wintry forge]

Oh I got something nice coming for April 1st, don’t you worry

[solar spoke]

(raises hand)

[warm ibex]

I knew it was a troll but wanted to know what the troll was

[wintry forge]

Yeah, most logical 😂

[harsh egret]

ok. fk u

[wintry forge]

😬

[warm ibex]

come on hato, you can't be posting links too fast

we don't do that 'round these parts

[wintry forge]

Rookie mistake smh

[thin hound]

Actually though, DLC trailer in videos!

[harsh egret]

anyway i posted the dlc trailer in videos tho

[wintry forge]

No way, he’s fr!

[solar spoke]

You know who else posts links too fast?

[harsh egret]

#videos message

[frail bloom]

Jokes on you the link doesn't work

[warm ibex]

I wasn't gonna tell him

[harsh egret]

huh

[thin hound]

The Rick Roll isn’t as effective when an ad plays first

[wintry forge]

YouTube premium got me cooked

[frail bloom]

Link doesn't even open up hur hur

[harsh egret]

fk yall

[warm ibex]

lmao

[harsh egret]

it literally does

[frail bloom]

No it doesn't

Try deleting it and reuploading

Prob fix it

[heady trout]

check out screenshot
No dlc news just cool channel

[stone pasture]

Let's make the Samuel cleaner image the server's version of Rick roll

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[warm ibex]

check out DOOM: The Dark Ages - Path of Vengeance (Available Now)

[harsh egret]

its ok they probably already have taken down the leaked trailer

[frail bloom]

I didn't even click the link lol

[harsh egret]

omfg

[wintry forge]

Ouch

[stone pasture]

People fell for my trick

SAMUEL CLEANER

[warm ibex]

now come on IconOfSimp, you know the rules about posting links too fast

[frail bloom]

But-but, it isn't the dlc?????

[hearty edge]

i guess (hope) the dlc will be out by then

[frail bloom]

Huh I coulda sworn

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-finally-good-food-chef-gif-11616250

[frail bloom]

It looked like the ripstorium, and was advertised as the ripatorium...

[thin hound]

DOOM: The Dark Ages - Painkiller
Totally what it’s called

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-guy-doomslayer-gif-16568152361975227628

[frail bloom]

Just how???????

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-sad-fridge-no-food-gif-5296071

how ppl feel like when they thought the trailer was the dlc

[wintry forge]

The funny thing is that Path of Vengeance would work narratively for the dlc if the rumors are true

[frail bloom]

The real dlc

[warm ibex]

maybe I shouldn't have picked a name so fucking raw

[wintry forge]

Yeah wtf man, you stole it from Hugo I bet

[stone pasture]

Dumb move dude

[harsh egret]

what if the dlc is actually Horde's presets and we are just waiting for nothing

[hearty edge]

doom the dark ages: even darker

[warm ibex]

he cracked the code...

[frail bloom]

What if the master levels was the ripatorium

And that's why Hugo said you can express yourself

Think abt it

[thin hound]

The DLC is just a handful of Ripatorium presets designed by Chad Mossholder

[frail bloom]

Think

[stone pasture]

Wait someone posted a leak imaged in screenshots

[hearty edge]

what they could do is recreate encounters and put them as ripartorium presets

[warm ibex]

at first I understood but after a certain point it was just absurd 😭

[wintry forge]

I got it guys! “DOOM: The Dark Ages - The Ancient Gods Part 1”

[harsh egret]

wait i have installed already, no way

im gonna go play the dark ages dlc

[wintry forge]

Already preloaded the dlc as we speak

[hearty edge]

theyre ancient by the time we fight them so it'd be The Mid-30s Gods part 1

[frail bloom]

Horde😡 WHERE is the dlc? DON'T YOU work for id??? I mean people, what kind of company are we supporting here...

[warm ibex]

been playing the dlc since november, not even on my level

[wintry forge]

Aw crap, the early launch is locked for some reason! May 12th vibes

[stone pasture]

Guys someone posted a leak image in #screenshots

[frail bloom]

How dare you falsely advertise your vid as dlc

[thin hound]

I’ve been playing the DLC since October 2024, what have you guys been doing?

[frail bloom]

How. Dare. You

Like you did that.

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/person-below-me-gets-chocolate-cake-person-below-me-gets-chocolate-cake-gif-5547626451795509463

[warm ibex]

I can't believe I put NEW DLC in the title and thumbnail, that was crazy of me

[wintry forge]

It said in his description “Full DLC trailer” before he changed it after the backlash

[harsh egret]

free chocolate cake for Horde

[frail bloom]

Ye honestly you should be banned

[thin hound]

No for Samir

[frail bloom]

Distasteful and unethical

[warm ibex]

this is completely true and factual

[hearty edge]

i see horde

[warm ibex]

I see iconofsimp

[wintry forge]

False advertising is a bannable offense

[harsh egret]

u trippin' twin

[frail bloom]

Yum I'm a fat ass

Kidding I'm not that heavy

Kinda

Idk anymore

[thin hound]

Horde replied to Samir, the arrow is pointing right at his profile pic

[hearty edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/355181142342893568/1453131693006262272/image0.gif

[harsh egret]

only 90 kilos (decypher that one, american)

[wintry forge]

Wow thanks Horde, I can’t believe you just dm’d me the access code for the DLC! Since you work for id and all

[frail bloom]

Er like almost 197 pounds?

[hearty edge]

is it like 200 pounds give or take

[frail bloom]

Off the top of my head

[hearty edge]

198.5

[harsh egret]

samir is smarter than 99% of americans

[warm ibex]

sometimes I wonder if people actually think that

[hearty edge]

close enough

[wintry forge]

You’d be surprised

[frail bloom]

Yippeeee

[wintry forge]

Samir googled it tho

[frail bloom]

Ye I googled it in like less then a second

And then typed it on my ipad

[harsh egret]

[hearty edge]

u already had the kg to pounds calculator open liar

[frail bloom]

I'm kidding

I've been 90 kilos before

[harsh egret]

excuse me

[frail bloom]

What

[stone pasture]

Guys we do need hopium, anyone got some or got to the store?

[frail bloom]

It was a lot

[thin hound]

I only have feltrite left, sorry

[frail bloom]

I was like 16

[harsh egret]

werent u 16 now lol

[thin hound]

Maybe go to the store and pick up some headlight fluid as well

[frail bloom]

And no I did not look obese

No I'm 17

[heady trout]

i already played the dlc, you can play as Ashraks severed head

[harsh egret]

"i was like" , 1 year ago

[stone pasture]

Who is stronger, doom guy or tarnished from elden ring

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/babyb-gif-878160366744392312

[frail bloom]

Ye I say that cuz I went through a big transformation

[warm ibex]

I feel like the wait for the DLC wouldn't be as bad for a lot of people if they just used the ripatorium

[frail bloom]

Exactly

[harsh egret]

fr

[stone pasture]

Who is stronger, doom guy or tarnished from elden ring

[wintry forge]

Speaking of dlc why is there not an official HD release of the teaser concept image

[stone pasture]

Some one said tarnished is stronger

[hearty edge]

i've been playing the ripartorium a lot recently and it's pretty fun

[wintry forge]

Or even a post at all really

[hearty edge]

although i havent won once

[green estuary]

maybe hugo wasn't supposed to show it lol

[hearty edge]

whowever the writer wants to win

[thin hound]

Ripatorium is a great addition, but it can only entertain for so long, we needs the new content

[warm ibex]

I think that was supposed to be stream exclusive, like all the info he drops. stuff just for the hardcore fans that tune in every week

[frail bloom]

They need to update the presets again

[wintry forge]

Maybe if honestly can entertain me for a long ass time. Especially with the inclusion of the presets

[frail bloom]

I thought they would've earlier

I thought it was weekly or bi-monthly or smt

[warm ibex]

the concept of playing other games never fails to allude the doom community

[stone pasture]

Bro tarnished is just a person who is magic, strong, or faithful, the doom slayer is a warrior who is a god, and can not be stopped, only slowed down

[thin hound]

No I’m doing that a lot to cope

[wintry forge]

It’s cool and all, no big deal, but it would still be good for the press imo if they released the image the following days or something. Especially for the YouTubers covering it

[thin hound]

I’ve been scouring Steam for more DOOM-like games and come up with a few good ones

[frail bloom]

Ye they're called classic doom

But you won't play

[wintry forge]

Oh yeah this guy hasn’t played the classics

[thin hound]

Not my cup of pixels

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/serrat-serrat-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-doom-dark-ages-gif-8832286089659534552

[wintry forge]

Public shame incoming

[frail bloom]

Sadge

[harsh egret]

@sterile hamlet Hi man! Me and some people here were curious earlier about when new ripatorium presets would be added to the game. Just out of pure curiosity since it was originally mentioned they would be changed regurarly even it if wasn't decided how often that would be.

[stone pasture]

DISGRACE OF A DOOM FAN

[frail bloom]

RAAAAA

[thin hound]

I’ve played some of them on the Fortress of Doom PC and the secret DOOM classic levels

[frail bloom]

And now, we wait

[wintry forge]

You’re missing out on the best pieces of Doom media bro

[thin hound]

Very opinionated

[frail bloom]

NO

[wintry forge]

The modern games base their gameplay off the classics

[warm ibex]

they're not just the best pieces of Doom media, they're THE pieces of Doom media

[frail bloom]

they're objectively peak.

[thin hound]

The old original Doom media

[frail bloom]

Obj-ect-iv-ely peak

[thin hound]

For the 90s yes

[stone pasture]

Doom classic can run on anything, a pregnancy test, vape, smart fridge, even an atm

[wintry forge]

Doom II co-op will never not be the best thing in history to experience for the first time

[frail bloom]

For NOW BOI

[harsh egret]

bringing this up with EpicSquid is just asking to be ragebaited

[frail bloom]

Boi will never feel the joy of co-op couch crossplay

[thin hound]

I’m just existing, and people always have to say something

[frail bloom]

I feel depressed for this man

[warm ibex]

I saw the mini meltdown in chat last night, I don't know what anyone expects man

[wintry forge]

Guys, this guy NEVER experienced infighting between the Spider Mastermind and the Cyberdemon from Doom II

[thin hound]

I did some of that back in the day

[frail bloom]

Do it more

[harsh egret]

not only last night 🥀

[thin hound]

I’m not sure what Doom has to do with that though

[frail bloom]

Bc, couch coop is peak in classic doom

Peak.

[thin hound]

Didn’t know that was a thing

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

im telling u

[warm ibex]

classic doom has up to four player couch coop on the modern ports (and I think on the 360 D3 BFGE port but I may be misremembering)

[frail bloom]

And like 30 with online play

Some crazy number

[wintry forge]

Can confirm bfg edition had it, played it on the ps3 back in the day

[thin hound]

There was no meltdown, we were having a chill conversation, someone came in and made it less chill, I left the conversation

[frail bloom]

Doom tda ost tier list when

[harsh egret]

i played coop with my dad a long while ago

its peak

[warm ibex]

you didn't leave the conversation. cobblestone left the conversation and you kept trying to get shit started afterwards 😭

[wintry forge]

3 year old me played it for countless hours with my dad lmao

[frail bloom]

Oh you have me beat

[thin hound]

I thought you were talking about something else

[frail bloom]

I played Doom when I was 4

Icon beat me by a year

[harsh egret]

i played when i was 5 lol

[stone pasture]

Guys there is a little cosmic energy leak next to the hole you break out of cuthulu, probably where you hitched a ride on em

[harsh egret]

i think that was first year of kindergarten

[warm ibex]

I didn't get into doom until 2016 launched

[frail bloom]

Molded by DOOM

I breathe it

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

I think, therefore I DOOM

[green estuary]

I have been playing doom for less than a year

[wintry forge]

I was either 2 or 3. I can’t pinpoint it. But It was definitely one of those. Then when D3 came out in 04 I played it in my dad’s lap with him lmao. He let me shoot the first dude who mutated in Mars City Underground and I cried lmao

[warm ibex]

happy to have you here!

[green estuary]

I DOOM, therefore I am

[warm ibex]

markiplier's playthrough of 2016 is what really got me into doom

[frail bloom]

That's a cute story lol

[thin hound]

I rip, therefore I tear

[thin hound]

Same actually

[harsh egret]

peak

[thin hound]

But for me it was in 2018

[frail bloom]

I played on my grandmas xbox, on the demo, me and my cousin used to spend hours trying to figure out how to turn on crossplay

Simple times

Just replayed the first level of NRFTL to oblivion

On UV

[harsh egret]

ur grandma had an xbox? based grandma

[frail bloom]

Tbf my aunt got it

And yes my grandma is based

[fading bone]

i got into doom through Maynarde's god run practice streams

[wintry forge]

As a longtime doom fan, back when it first came out, hearing him yap so hard in the first episode and never complete a single thought as he kept fanboying was so irritating. He’d be like “guys this game means so much to me, me and my dad used to- HOLY CRAP A SHOTGUN!”
He kept trying to say so much interesting stuff but never finished a single thought 😂

[heady trout]

i got into Doom cause a friend recommended 2016 to me, after i beat it on hurt me plenty i nearly forgot all about it as i rushed for Eternal

[versed quarry]

Bro can't handle old graphics. Like it just feels so shallow when somebody can't get past the graphics.

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

I loved that part personally

He had so much to say

And he was aware by the second episode iirc

[thin hound]

I also like looking up and down, and the games just aren’t for me

[green estuary]

markiplier was probably the only mainstream youtuber who actually could play eternal worth a damn lmao

[wintry forge]

No that wasn’t the problem, it was just frustrating that he wouldn’t get his words out when I wanted to hear them 😂😂

[versed quarry]

There are ports that let you do that

[frail bloom]

I need the wisdom!!

[thin hound]

Yeah pretty much

[green estuary]

he actually cranked the game up to nightmare near the end and didn't do too badly

[warm ibex]

that's a good summary for 2016 era markiplier in general 😂

he got me into a lot of different things, doom and content creation being two of the biggest. I owe a lot to that man

[heady trout]

some months later i actually tried 2016 again on Nightmare, hated it, then tried UV, loved it but yeah it's imo the least balanced of the modern trilogy

[frail bloom]

I owe him watching Iron lung in theaters

[harsh egret]

i still remember when he bfgd the marauder on accident that shit was funny

[frail bloom]

Whenever it's out I don't remember

[warm ibex]

I bought tickets like a month ago

[thin hound]

And then Hugo was like “Nope” and patched it the next day probably

[frail bloom]

I haven't, are they all out

[green estuary]

well it's still possible to bfg a marauder without stunning him
but he has to cooperate, so it's not reliable at all

mark just got very very lucky

[wintry forge]

Loved the old Markiplier

Hearing him as a mainstream YouTuber spew all of the id Software lore to millions of subscribers back then scratched a huge itch

[harsh egret]

they gotta bring it globally man

[wintry forge]

Iron Lung with Andrew Hulshult, don’t forget!

[heady trout]

you were never one of us
you were nothing but an impostor
a false crewmate

[harsh egret]

its only in the us and the uk iirc

[frail bloom]

Well lucky me

[thin hound]

It’s in Guam

[warm ibex]

I'm very happy that he played 2016. I still get comments from people telling me that they're only into doom because of him, it's awesome. wish he would've played tda

[frail bloom]

He still might

He was verrryyy busy

[warm ibex]

this is his big break from heavy projects so yeah, we'll see

[thin hound]

It better be on the top of his backlogged games list

[heady trout]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-wrecking-ball-sick-gif-7271831305364369296

[wintry forge]

Watching Hugo “break” into his house to play Doom Eternal was like two worlds colliding. It was absolute cinema

[harsh egret]

lmao yep

[wintry forge]

Jacksepticeye never finished it either

[warm ibex]

I would've never met hugo martin if it wasn't for markiplier, that's crazy to think about

[wintry forge]

He started it. He made it past Seige pt. II. Didn’t watch the series, I just know he played it

[thin hound]

He also didn’t have the patience to play through more than the beginning of the first game

[frail bloom]

Sadge

He wasn't really clicking with it

Part of it was the music

[wintry forge]

An absolute honor. That man’s such a chill dude

[thin hound]

He needed to turn it up for sure

[green estuary]

tbh as much as I like Jack, watching him play doom games is painful

[wintry forge]

Gotta be top 3 best game devs personality wise

[frail bloom]

Which was mixed terribly during release

[frail bloom]

Like WHYYYYY DID IT HAVE TO BE SO JANK

I'll never know anyway so gn

[thin hound]

Yeah I agree, but that was the case with most other YouTubers too, they don’t take the time to learn the demons and don’t pay enough attention to things sometimes, for Eternal

[wintry forge]

Watching Markiplier’s 2016 playthrough as he mained the combat shotgun w/ grenade launcher was hilarious

[thin hound]

I just rewatched it last week

I love when he says “Ew, grabby hands!” about the imps

[green estuary]

TDA and 2016 too
for whatever reason a bunch of mainstream youtubers are kinda shite at FPS games

[wintry forge]

MoistCritical played all of them. His takes were interesting

[stone pasture]

One group, game journalists

[thin hound]

And it’s even worse for streamers who sometimes look at their chat during cutscenes and glory kills and miss cool or important moments I want to see their reactions to

[harsh egret]

he loves eternal so much that he stops playing the first dlc level halfway through and never plays them again

[thin hound]

[wintry forge]

I remember that lmao. Bro loves Eternal so much but didn’t even play the peak of its content

[harsh egret]

buys the prime 1 eternal statue but doesnt play the dlcs smh

[wintry forge]

I disagree with some of his TDA takes. Honestly id rather play Dark Ages than 2016

[thin hound]

A good first step is always to learn the names of the different demons, most content creators I’ve seen can’t even do that

[green estuary]

couldn't come to grips with his skill issue 😔

[gilded lichen]

tbh 2016 is just underwhelming after playing doom eternal, but i can understand if someone just prefers the slightly slower more grounded combat

[wintry forge]

It’s an amazing game, just harder to come back to

[heady trout]

he plays like 5 billion different games tbf

[harsh egret]

and cant play the dlcs of one of his "favorite" fps games prob

[green estuary]

yeah he enjoyed it so much he played it all of one singular time

[heady trout]

idk what ur getting at

[green estuary]

(he, charlie, is just saying shit)

[harsh egret]

u cant tell me he doesnt have time to play them when he plays random indie horror games and league nowadays

[gilded lichen]

trust guys he just played it offscreen and loved it sooo much he forgot to talk about it he didn't just say that to ride the doom hype train

[thin hound]

One of the best things about DOOM gameplay (especially Eternal) is that it forces you to play the fun way, otherwise you die, all you need to do is be willing to learn

[heady trout]

i just think he doesn't care that much, out of the heap's of games he skims through, he really liked his limited time with Eternal

its not that deep, he's not some evil mastermind trying to manipulate the doom fans into thinking something

there are games people dont play much but leave an Impact

you dont need to play a game a lot to like it

[versed quarry]

cue the "fun zone" clip

[green estuary]

I just think charlie is very safe with his opinions and what he puts out on the internet
I don't necessarily think that what he says he likes actually lines up with how much he likes it

[heady trout]

see i legitimately don't get why people dislike a random YouTuber for being "safe" with their opinions, it was bound to happen, some people just have safe takes, and if u actively watch him you'll find plenty of hot takes, like any other person (he doesn't like the Sopranos ending like c'mon he missed the whole point)

many YouTubers do exactly what charlie does with safe takes but when he does it, it's seen as wrong and hes lying

[green estuary]

I don't watch many youtubers

[heady trout]

even if you only watch Charlie somehow, there's nothing actually wrong with having a lot of noticeably safe takes

why is it such a big problem and why do people constantly fear he's lying about his true thoughts despite no evidence of said thing being a fact

[fleet spruce]

good god i wake up and see that some people never played classic Doom, what a shocker

[obsidian shard]

Howdy sn!

[fleet spruce]

aye sneaky

I'm still stuck on map 26 of The Warp

[wintry forge]

It’s wild

[fading bone]

i finally played some for the first time last week

[wintry forge]

And?

Was it life-altering?

[fading bone]

it felt much better than i expected tbh

[wintry forge]

That’s what we like to hear

[fading bone]

surprised at how well it held up to time

[wintry forge]

It still feels like butter to play. I recommend trying to play through at least the first 2 if you can find the time

[fading bone]

yeah i did the first one

but i feel like it was really short? i dunno if i missed something

[fleet spruce]

Still glad that i downloaded original Doom with dosbox back in 2014 along with Quake

[fading bone]

and i didnt see any like splash screens after any of the levels i thought there was some extra lore or something added from that

[wintry forge]

The first 3 episodes? Yeah, games were a bit shorter back then. Second one is much longer. They both run like butter and are fast games, but Doom II is much more open/ spacious. It’ll take more time to complete. Has a lot more missions too

[fading bone]

like doom 1 just ended at that double baron level and i was like oh that was it?

[wintry forge]

Quake is underrated

[wintry forge]

Oh no that’s just the first chapter

That’s “knee-deep in the dead”

[fading bone]

oh

[wintry forge]

There’s still “the shores of hell” and “inferno”

[fading bone]

im doing the doom 1 +2 thing on steam

[wintry forge]

3 episodes total, 8-9 missions each

Yeah you gotta go back to new game and start the second episode I believe

There’s a 4th episode also, but that one is an add-on that released after Doom II to bridge the games together a bit more. It’s still great but it’s not 100% necessary to play

[fading bone]

oooooooohhhhhhhh

i see

ok that makes much more sense lol i thought it would just keep going but it put me to the menu and i was like oh ok i guess thats it

[wintry forge]

Episode 2 gets MUCH better. Episode 3 has the craziest level designs

[wintry forge]

Yeah Doom II won’t do that to you. The second game structures it so you don’t have to keep relaunching episodes lmao

Dark Ages takes heavy inspiration from the classics, especially Doom II. The spacious level designs, slow moving projectiles, dodging and weaving around the demons’ attacks, it’s awesome

[fading bone]

yeah ive seen plenty of videos/streams of ppl playing it before but just always assumed it would feel too clunky if you never played it before

but yeah pleasantly surprised and will eventually get around to finish it all

but for now im still obsessed with dark ages

[hearty edge]

episode 2 is kinda underrated imo

like i see many people cataloging it as the worst

[wintry forge]

E2M2 is peak doom

[hearty edge]

me when crates

[wintry forge]

Can’t blame ya there

[wintry forge]

Me when you can just skip the crates section 💀

[hearty edge]

i'm always tryna get 100% on every level

but it's still peak and definitely one of my favorite levels in doom 1

[fleet spruce]

Classic Doom is so smooth to play

[hearty edge]

though my favorite has GOT to be e3m9

[mystic barn]

E2M6 is where it's at

[slender night]

Everyone is snoring on E4M6

[random sand]

Just got to that one. Gonna do it later tho. So far i don't really have a fav level in the original doom. They all kinda blend together imo. I only know the one i dislike the most which is E2M4. I did not like that one. My fav would probably be E1M4 or something

[fleet spruce]

While I like experimental design of Doom 2 but Doom 1 is definitely better in the level design overall, feels much more cohesive

also first 2 levels of episode 4 will catch anyone lacking in most spectacular ways

[brave leaf]

Why do I genuinely not remember the aspiring slayer difficulty existing

[random sand]

probably never played it

[mystic barn]

All of the Tom Hall maps are fantastic. E1M4, E2M1, E2M6, and Refuelling Base among others are the best maps in Classic DOOM hands down (as well as a handful of Sandy maps; I love The Chasm)

Probably has something to do with his consistent vision for DOOM

[random sand]

i feel like each level's music carries them a long way for me because i just see each level as a maze and that's kinda it. there are some levels with very good level design but alot of them just feel like mazes to me. E2M4 and E2M5 being the biggest sinners of this. E1M4's pretty cool tho

[empty furnace]

if my laptop can run doom the dark ages (i typically keep most settings at low) can it run god of war ragnarok

[little ingot]

Does anyone know a mod that changes the lighting system on tda my gpu doesn't support raytracing so everything is really dark when I load in

[random sand]

if your laptop can run doom the dark ages then donate that shit to science

[gilded siren]

Is the dark ages worth it?

[slender night]

If you are a DOOM fan sure but for a non-fan I say wait for a sale

[violet zealot]

It is worth it

[fading bone]

im sure the discord full of fans of the game will tell you that you should not buy it

[random sand]

yes

[gilded siren]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[gilded siren]

So yes or no?

[fading bone]

yes

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[empty furnace]

yes

[heady trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1453922211474964642/ezgif-7da560ffcdbfcf01.gif

[random sand]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-14901082521966246439

[fading bone]

some of these slayer gifs just look so cursed

i kind of hate them lol

[young schooner]

Fellow Refueling Base enjoyer?

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

Doom II has a ton of shitty maps, but the great ones are seriously great. Refueling Base is one of the best vanilla maps IMO.

[wintry forge]

If I remember correctly Romero really liked that one too

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lmao-meme-lmao-gif-lol-lol-cat-gif-4552813418803199403

[cursive grotto]

Fellas, is 75 average FPS in 1440p medium settings decent

[harsh egret]

depends what ur specs are

[cursive grotto]

Still my good old laptop with a 4060

[harsh egret]

ah, yh thats good

[unreal garden]

Is it me, but why are Lost Souls not in the Ripatorium 2.0?

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-worth-all-the-freakin-irritation-in-the-world-diane-lockhart-the-good-fight-upset-angry-gif-21888805

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/babyscream-yeah-hockey-kid-angry-gif-9769992124503380357

[flat elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1229668588579848263/1460898362826948740/G-m1xwSaQAAXX_b.jpg?ex=6968971f&is=6967459f&hm=0c020b8395d4d3e764de4713c2c09d8d301ff41974d5fbb880018790a99cfc50&

Guys, does this thing apear in game?

[fading bone]

unless its something floating around in the backgrounds, no

[versed quarry]

What the Hell did you dig up

[flat elm]

https://x.com/ShrimPort/status/2011266950404735414

CamaronPuerto (@ShrimPort)

Props&stuff part1 (3/4.5) its done.
-Spear, Axe and hammer has customizable color
-Turret has a heat driver
-The platform is for placing the BFC

X · Jan 14, 2026, 2:39 AM

[versed quarry]

What is he porting these to?

[flat elm]

To blender

[versed quarry]

Ah

[flat elm]

This guy is the GOAT, the GOAT

[versed quarry]

Also, I don’t recognize the grenades

Where are they used in The Dark Ages

[flat elm]

I remember grenade from bottom left, used by Novik in Aratum ending

[versed quarry]

Ohhhhh

[wintry forge]

Was rewatching some of the old Eternal streams, and something interesting was stated about the Wretch. Hugo mentioned that the Wretch was someone who gave the Slayer his Praetor Suit “back in Argent D’Nur when you were with the Sentinels”

This could be him just making a broad claim, but maybe this time period does line up with the Slayer getting his Praetor Suit, NOT just during his time in Hell after the Betrayal

[fleet spruce]

with all the dlc hints we got so far i think it aligns pretty well

[wintry forge]

Yeah, to my point, because everyone was confused why he said “armor” and hinted at the Wretch. All seems too early, but we really never knew for certain. But this comment on his Eternal stream seems to connect that idea

[young schooner]

Definitely supports the idea for sure. I think it's safe to say that the Slayer's Testaments are hardly a guide for continuity in reference to each other anymore. Beyond specific mentions of ages anything mentioned can be pushed back to during TDA's era.

[fervent maple]

I find that the Slayer's Testaments are just extremely flowery and romanticized warnings, rather than real accounts or records of what happened.

On that note, does anyone else feel like TDA's story felt more like a DLC than a main story? It feels more like an epilogue or an interquel.

[fleet spruce]

more of a prologue than anything

[thin hound]

True, the Dark Lord loves the Slayer so much he even wanted to be his twin

[young schooner]

I think it may feel this way because the story seems intentionally designed to cover a small part of the era.

Instead of existing to "explain" things or depict events from the Testaments or tell this big, super important story that changes everything we know about Doom...... it is more like they picked a random week or two long period from the era and then set the game during that.

In this case, the tail end of Prince Ahzrak's reign over the horde, the Slayer breaking free from the Maykrs' control, and the Sentinels beginning to see him as their hero rather than a weapon.

[thin hound]

Anyone ever think about how cool it is to play as a character so dangerous and resolute that even the Devil himself is desperate to kill you?

[warm ibex]

oh it's definitely too early, I don't think there's any debating that

specifically from a marketing/design standpoint, I mean. If they plan on doing another medieval Doom game at any point in the future then they won't give him the Praetor suit now

unless they plan on giving it to him, then having him not wear it until the end of the civil war or something

[wintry forge]

Absolutely, I think that’s what Hugo’s words may imply. His Eternal stream backs up the idea that we’ll get the Praetor Suit before the Betrayal, it definitely don’t until the next game

[fleet spruce]

I believe they'll just introduce us to the wretch at best

[warm ibex]

also since we're on the topic, I just want to point out that the 2016 Praetor suit actually has a factory manufacturing decal on the breastplate. leftover from before the slayer lore, of course https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1461065296168222760/image.png?ex=69693297&is=6967e117&hm=d10ff78726826f50bad010b41cb40b58f181e4a7ba2597feb1618c03a8e51979

I do like the decals on the suit, but I wouldn't at all mind if TDA or TDA's sequel completely retconned them

who knew that the Wretch's real name was EXO MANUFACTURE I.O. LOGISTICS 85

[obsidian shard]

UAC did modify the armor right?

[fleet spruce]

what a wretched corporation

[thin hound]

Will it be an already existing character or a new one though?

[warm ibex]

I think that's a misconception

[warm ibex]

who knows 🤷 maybe we'll find out in the dlc

[harsh egret]

the wretch is in the original games so u have to play the original games to find out

[thin hound]

So it is possible that it could be a returning character then, I wasn’t sure

[thin hound]

If that was the case there wouldn’t be so much discussion about their identity from what I’ve seen, nice try

[harsh egret]

thank you

[slender night]

You don't know man, Hato could be right

[thin hound]

Well I might just have to revisit that Fortress of Doom PC in Eternal soon, who knows

[fervent maple]

That makes sense, I just don't find it compelling at all. If they wanted me to feel like I put on a random SAT AM cartoon that's halfway through its run, they sure accomplished that.

And that's coming from someone who generally enjoyed the story.

[young schooner]

I get it's left over from earlier lore but I always took its continued presence in the game to mean the Praetor Suit was assembled from pieces of Sentinel scrap/armor that were manufactured in their factories.

[young schooner]

To each their own, I suppose. I loved it as a story that's a bit more focused on letting us ruminate on the Slayer as a character and see sides of him 2016 and Eternal didn't show.

[flat elm]

Just a leftover. Poor Lightning gun, be weapon from Doom 4,later meant to be reused as singleplayer weapon in Doom 2016. And reused as prop in Eternal.

[obsidian shard]

and Dark Ages

[flat elm]

Actually it meant to be weapon in singleplayer of 2016, in the artbook there's lore entry for this weapon. And of course for the Harvester.

[slender night]

Hey at least the lightning gun got to shine with Quake

[thin hound]

It was in DOOM multiplayer and Quake Champions

[warm ibex]

crazy that the sentinels outsourced their materials from the same place as the UAC 😅

[flat elm]

QC model is way different

[slender night]

It was in Quake in general, not just Champions

[flat elm]

I know

And grenade launcher too

[fleet spruce]

do not fire it under water

funny things may happen

[thin hound]

I actually think some of the best glory kills are in DOOM mutliplayer

Was it actually made by a different development team than the campaign?

[slender night]

PLAYER discharges into the water

Quake; a grim serious game with the goofiest death messages

[obsidian shard]

yes

same with snapmap

[fleet spruce]

tbh casually exploding an elder god was pretty goofy as well

just id software charm

[flat elm]

Yes, Certain Affinity and later Battlecry Studios.

[slender night]

Telefragging the big bad is certainly a way to end the game

[fleet spruce]

definitely spectacular and unique lmao

[thick anvil]

bingchilling

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663786269825826836/1461057331109433435/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_01_14_2026_19_53_25.jpg?ex=69692b2c&is=6967d9ac&hm=041e21f7f95bedbc9e215c42c6d1d958dbfe4a4daa93e4c9bf6e866b5bead707&

anyway , this is all i see in presets

[versed quarry]

I always thought that the reason that there were manufacturing serial codes and stuff was because they used parts of Doomguy’s classic armor in the making of the praetor suit

[young schooner]

Ehhhh... The Praetor Suit looks so different they'd have had to melt it down, and serial codes wouldn't survive that.

[warm ibex]

I think it could work

has more meaning than sentinel manufacturing logos, at least. I'm not huge on them having any lore relevance though

but we'll see how the DLC goes. I'm anxious to see if they introduce the Praetor suit or Wretch

[versed quarry]

The praetor suit also looks similar to pre-existing marauder and sentinel armor, which supports the Argenta connections. But I do like the idea of Doomguy retaining his classic suit.

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1461076949123207229/image.png?ex=69693d72&is=6967ebf2&hm=93bf1b48d88f3c77c45eb69dd88855c9ba941b64024e5d1a30722d25e62a8456&

[fleet spruce]

Not kidding, nothing changed since it was added

[young schooner]

Something interesting about this is you can tell how late the armor thing is by the fact that none of the Sentinel armor in 2016 looks anything like the Praetor Suit. Sentinels wearing armor that looks the same as the Praetor Suit (i.e. the chest piece on Marauders, Valen's armor) didn't come until Eternal when they knew the Slayer's backstory the whole development time.

But making the Slayer a Sentinel warrior instead of a cyborg super soldier or whatever came too late in 2016's development. If it happened earlier we may not have even gotten the Sentinel armor design in 2016 at all.

(The one we have now, I mean.)

[fervent maple]

Doomguy as a character, I enjoyed, but the overall plot felt weak and inconsequential. I just feel that they could have incorporated these elements into a more consequential and interesting story.

[young schooner]

Sure. I imagine you may get your wish a bit with the DLC - the few details they've shared make it seem like the story will tie a bit more into other stuff.

[fervent maple]

I think that's a little bit of what I meant with my original message. I feel as though a more important plot should have been the main story, while the main TDA story is better suited to a DLC.

[harsh egret]

i almost feel like the story in the dlc will be more important than the base game lol

[thin hound]

That’s how it was in Eternal so yeah

[young schooner]

Important to the overall timeline, probably. Like I said, TDA doesn't seem meant to be a crucial part of the timeline as much as it is meant to be an in-depth glimpse at the Unholy Wars and the Slayer's character arc. The DLC, Hugo said, will be a lot more like 2016 in its presentation, which leads me to believe there will be more "plot relevant" stuff to kind of bring things around full circle.

[harsh egret]

yh and that was a blunder, are u saying its ok accepting blunders just cuz they did it before

[warm ibex]

I was personally a pretty big fan of them not tackling a big pre-established story in the main campaign lol.

that's actually the main reason I was very against a prequel in the first place - I didn't want them to just run through the testaments for shits and giggles. if there wasn't an original, worthwhile story to tell, I wasn't interested

[harsh egret]

tho it cant be as bad as that im sure

[thin hound]

It’s not really a blunder, the DLC is just a continuation of the game

[harsh egret]

fighting the dark lord in the dlc is a blunder

[warm ibex]

hard agree (barely any point in discussing it atp tho since we can't change a decision made nearly five years ago)

[thin hound]

You shouldn’t really think of DLC as a separate thing, it’s just the last 7 missions of Eternal really

[harsh egret]

yh, just clarifying to him what i meant

[warm ibex]

yh I get you

[young schooner]

This is exactly where I am at. I felt a lot of anxiety before TDA's release because I was worried they were going to fucking annihilate our understanding of the timeline and backstory for the sake of having us go through the entire Unholy Wars and Slayer's Testaments in a 14 hour campaign. "Here's the Baalgar as a mid-game boss. Here's the Wretch! Oooh, the penultimate boss is the Great One! Sucks you get sealed away in Kadingir Sanctum at the end of the game..."

I am seriously glad to see TDA was more focused on telling a self-contained story that is first and foremost about the Slayer and his struggle, rather than an arbitrarily big scope.

TDA was the first game to feel like it was actually wholly concerned with being a story about the Doom Slayer. 2016 is about basically everything but him, and Eternal is about basically everything the writers could think of, to a fault.

[fervent maple]

I don't think TAG should have been a DLC, maybe a standalone (like, actually standalone instead of glorified paywalled levels) expansion like Halo 3: ODST or the old Half-Life expansions

[young schooner]

But TDA, the whole story hinges on the Slayer and what he's going through. Every plot beat revolves around something that affects him or someone he cares about in some way. I like that.

[young schooner]

I don't think TAG being a DLC in itself was an issue. Moreso that they had a solid vision for it that COVID forced them to compromise halfway through the story. I think a few crucial things about TAG2 would've been different if not for that.

[fervent maple]

I suppose I disagree with the sentiment based more on my interests and expectations; I did enjoy what we got regardless, I just would have liked to see something more consequential. As you said, to each their own.

[warm ibex]

I do very much think that tag being dlc was an issue. that is a MAJOR plotline that was crammed into a post launch expansion. I don't think all the dev time and resources in the world would make that less of an issue

[fervent maple]

I feel this way because a significant number of people have no idea TAG even exists.

[young schooner]

That's fair and I don't blame you.

[warm ibex]

they know all of this though, they've read our complaints and seen all the feedback. so I don't think they'll make the same mistake again with TDA's dlc

[harsh egret]

yet at the same time, imo, tda is the game where to me i felt the most disconnected/ not immersed as in feeling like im in the slayer's shoes. it felt like too many characters and stuff at times. Too "epic" in some ways. The cosmic realm missions and harbor of souls were my favorite because the slayer was on his own and doing his thing.

[wintry forge]

Which is why we can’t kill SIX ARCHDEMONS in ONE dlc

[fervent maple]

I hope that they will avoid this with TDA's DLC, but a significant story being left for the DLC again concerns me. Bringing up or doing extremely important things in a DLC is poor in my eyes.

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/well-just-watch-me-butt-head-beavis-and-butt-head-i'll-show-you-see-for-yourself-gif-17710492699992469043

[wintry forge]

Well you’ll get your pov in the dlc

[harsh egret]

yh, one of the things im excited for

[wintry forge]

I’m honestly hoping they’re keeping cinematics to some degree. Not just first person cutscenes

[young schooner]

I can wholly admit I'm in the minority here so I won't pretend I'm, like, attuned to something in the story you're not. When so many people feel the story should've been given more space to breathe, there's a reason for that.

That said, personally I can accept it because I myself don't actually see TAG as the most important story in Eternal. To me it always felt like the base game's climax was the true climax of the modern Doom story; the final fight against the Icon of Sin, the dismantling of Urdak, saving the Earth and stopping the Call of Ages prophecized in 2016.
TAG, to me, is an epilogue. Going to the Holt is necessary to stop Hell, but it's a more personal journey for the Slayer to deal with the shit from his past and end things. I see the fight with Davoth less as the climactic final fight of Doom (that's the Icon) and more like Doomguy sweeping up the trash one last time so he can finally lay down and rest.

[harsh egret]

again, what i said doesnt ruin the game in any way for me, the game is cool asf but im just starting to wonder where we are going with this cuz it can get even crazier and stuff xd

[young schooner]

I get many people disagree with that, but that is the vibe I got from TAG's story and I am personally fine with that.

[harsh egret]

i enjoyed eternal's way of doing it the most

[fervent maple]

TAG is often likened to a TV special after the feature-length film; this is a great comparison, because I think that approach is deeply flawed. Important events should be kept for big budget experiences. This is why I fell so hard off the MCU train post-Endgame.

[wintry forge]

It had a good medium. Mars core had a lot of great examples where the cutscenes would go back and forth from pov to cinematic

[fervent maple]

I really don't want to see TDA do the same thing, but it won't stop me from playing and enjoying what's there. I'm among the many very dumb people who enjoyed RE3R and MP4:B.

[wintry forge]

Eh, I feel like it’s a little too loose. The whole story arc that started from 2016 is incomplete without TAG

[young schooner]

That's fair. Eternal's ending is very abrupt. I don't mean to say that TAG is inconsequential - just that, to me, the Icon's fight is the climax of Doom, while TAG itself is the falling action afterward. Most are disappointed because they wanted TAG to be the climax, which is fair. But as the falling action, I'm cool with it.

[harsh egret]

yeah but is fighting the dark lord really "sweeping the trash" tho
i think he is quite a bit more important than that

[young schooner]

I can't speak to MP4 but I cannot stand RE3R as a huge RE fan. Maybe the only RE game I outright dislike.

[slender night]

Fighting the Icon of Sin is cool and all but as a climax it's so much weaker compared to the Dark Lord; the Dark Lord is the creator of all things, the first being, at least from what I remember. The Icon of Sin is just, hey, that guy you once fought in a pathetic boss fight, but again!

[wintry forge]

Eternal’s ending was very abrupt. It served its purpose, but it left so many important things open, such as the Dark Lord stuff, the Seraphim, and most importantly, Urdak. Eternal makes it clear that the universe is in peril now that the Heavens are overrun by the demons. To me, that felt more important as a climax than stopping the consumption of Earth/Icon of Sin because that would lead to Hell doing the same thing to Earth again at some point in the future

[fervent maple]

The beauty of humans is that we enjoy things for different reasons and despite their issues. RE3R sucks, yet I love it. Conversely, I can't sit down and play Code Veronica for more than 10 minutes without getting upset.

I am the kind of person to see the good in everything; I critique things because I want to see them improve and to appreciate the art that is there. Despite every qualm I have with TAG and TDA, I still had a great time and I'm along for the ride regardless.

[wintry forge]

He’s the Devil, the guy we all wanted to fight since Doom 1993

[young schooner]

IMO yes. Davoth is powerless during TAG2 and I don't believe he had the power to suddenly destroy everything had he not been stopped. He's just another Hell ruler, albeit the first. He's definitely not the strongest foe Doomguy has had, not even in Eternal alone.
He is a relic from a past that should be left buried. An Ancient God, which the Slayer hates for their transgressions against humanity. Like the Father, he deserves nothing but to be dealt with and forgotten, permanently.

Hence: does the Slayer have anything to say to his creator? "No." He doesn't give a shit. He's just dealing with this fossil so he can finally rest.

[wintry forge]

Potentially underwhelming fight or not, it’s just so much more satisfying story wise

[fervent maple]

To be fair, a lot of people believed the Icon of Sin to be "the devil" over the years. This is more of a 2016-onwards thing, at least in the "dark lord" sense.

[young schooner]

Personally I like the idea of that. I'm sure I would've liked Davoth as a more fleshed out character if that had happened. But I like this too.

[meager vortex]

have you upgrade?

[wintry forge]

I never understood that lol. He was based on Baphomet, which definitely isn’t the devil

[fleet spruce]

yes, all up to date

[fervent maple]

A lot of people also don't know the difference between Baphomet and traditional depictions of Satan/Lucifer 😅

It's just a misconception thing.

[wintry forge]

Baphomet was more of a symbol, he was never meant to be the devil, but the pentagram became synonymous to both

[meager vortex]

interesting....

doom 2016 praetor suit UAC they tested

[warm ibex]

this is hard to approach without sounding confrontational or argumentative, so I'll just preface this by saying that I don't mean this in an argumentative or confrontational way lol.

But I feel like your interpretation is, for lack of a gentler term, completely wrong. It is fully intended to be the climax even if you personally interpret it as the falling action. TAG really isn't just some super personal journey the Slayer goes on to tie up lose ends, it's THE next big story in the Doom universe. He goes after the final boss to end all final bosses, aims to accomplish a final mission that would be the complete definitive end for any other franchise. The Icon of Sin might be the ultimate evil by classic Doom's standards, but it's nothing more than a sizable hurdle in the grand scheme of the modern Doom storyline. We go from a strong and powerful entity to the literal devil himself, the creator of Hell. Cannot understate just how monumental of a jump that truly is (and made in a post-launch expansion, no less)

[thin hound]

"Your war against Hell ends here."

[wintry forge]

I always felt like Doom TAG would work perfectly for an isolated release/ sequel, similar to how Wolfenstein Youngblood was a continuation of New Colossus with the same gameplay, but some new additions, all while being shorter and cheaper in price

[warm ibex]

All of this to say that TAG's mistakes absolutely should not be repeated in TDA's expansion. After giving it some thought over the past few months, I think it would be a huge mistake to cram yet another large storyline into an expansion

[obsidian shard]

Also I do believe he still retains some power

Summoning the Demons and teleporting us to different location

[wintry forge]

Adding onto your point on how it’s supposed to be the NEXT big adventure

[frail bloom]

Ye they shoulda saved davoth and went with the father instead

But stuff happened

[wintry forge]

Nah, father wouldn’t have worked as a villain

[meager vortex]

dark lord princess

[wintry forge]

Ain’t nobody trying to kill VEGA over here

[frail bloom]

Not really a villain but an antagonist

[wintry forge]

Plus, I don’t think he’s supposed to be a bad dude at all. Keep in mind, the Maykrs were led astray by the Kahn, after the Father left

[frail bloom]

I think m0no made his rewrite of tag some time ago he can share it

I found it really cool but I forget all the details

Anyways, for this upcoming dlc

I'm not worried

[meager vortex]

no worried dlc

[frail bloom]

Sure they might be putting in some events from the codeces of eternal and 2016, but they aren't super monumental events that need a lot of resources to pull off

At most we kill 2 high council members, meet the wretch, discover nekrevol

[warm ibex]

I wish they would do this more often, not just with something like TAG. Since they seemingly don't plan on making any more games that directly build on the elements of previous games, I'd totally pay $40 for a standalone story between TDA's DLC and its sequel

[frail bloom]

Is my prediction for the story line

[obsidian shard]

WHAT if one of the members is the wretch?

[frail bloom]

Hmmmmmmmmm

Hm

Well we shall see

[harsh egret]

[wintry forge]

Unfortunately I just don’t think they’d settle for less than a big AAA release

[heady trout]

agreed, they shouldn't have crammed the climax of all Doom into three levels with all the development issues they had

[warm ibex]

yeah I don't think they would either lol

[harsh egret]

well sadly they probably decided on that before any of that happened

[wintry forge]

They always could tho. From what I remember, Old Blood was never announced as some DLC but was released as a standalone story experience

[harsh egret]

and u dont have time to just shift directions, nor canceling the dlcs when they were promised

[young schooner]

I do not mind being told I'm wrong. Like I said I'm well aware most people don't see it like this, and I get it's not really what the writers intended it to be. But I do still think it works better when interpreted this way, and I'm no stranger to believing the final product works better as something different than the writers wanted it to be.

It's not really something I feel strongly about, so don't feel like you're offending me or whatever - it's just my two cents on the subject.

[frail bloom]

I just can't wait to see more of the slayers past

That line made me all giddy

It could mean classic doom, it could be his time as doomguy in argent d'nur, whatever it is I need it

[errant pewter]

Hello.
Anyone else experiencing a bug with the Accelerator where it does not charge plasma at all? Tried restarting from checkpoint, leaving to menu then back, closing the game and back with no luck.

[elder raven]

all bets on belias

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-angry-birds-gif-14664813930774351418

[elder raven]

if i roll a 8 dlc is tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/roll-dice-game-gamble-8-gif-11811253132015319721

[knotty gazelle]

Is Dark Ages too expensive on PS5?

[obsidian shard]

Yes and no

[green estuary]

if there's any game that's worth its asking price, it's TDA imo
that said, I'd still never buy it at 70 dollars

just wait until a sale, there's no penalty for waiting

[frail bloom]

I bought it at 100 I'm a good little id gremlin

[obsidian shard]

Yup

[thin hound]

I beat the whole game in two days before the main public got access

[solid nacelle]

I got 100% achievements during the early access period

[knotty gazelle]

Thanks

[wintry forge]

Is it a hot take to think it’s worth $70?

[thin hound]

No comment

[wintry forge]

(I think it’s worth the $70 🤐)

[thin hound]

I think the premium edition was worth $100 (and bought it, no regrets) but I think $70 is a little expensive for any game

[wintry forge]

I agree, but if that’s the standard for all games, then it’s definitely worth it

[thin hound]

I think $60 should stay the standard

[obsidian shard]

Should've been 60$
But 70$ was fine and well I did buy the game twice for full price sooo..

[wintry forge]

If all games are $70 then TDA is fine at $70

I almost bought it twice because of the prerelease issues lmao

[obsidian shard]

Oh lmao

I just didn't wanna use the disc

[wintry forge]

I had to wait like 3 hours before the prelaunch worked for me

[obsidian shard]

(Collector's Edition)

[obsidian shard]

I played 2 days before the 2 day early access,

I wanna relive playing all that,

[wintry forge]

I got collectors edition for pc, and it arrived the night before the pre-release. My brother bought it digitally on steam so he was able to play it immediately while many other people (like myself) had to wait during the weird delay

[obsidian shard]

The cutscene, the music, the Maps, the weapons, discovering something new for every new DOOM game is like a childhood memory I've unlocked.... It's majestic

[wintry forge]

I had to work so much that it took me 3 days to beat lmao

Spoilers were near impossible to ignore

[obsidian shard]

Ooof dude

[wintry forge]

City of Ry’uul was one of the best first time experiences in gaming

[thin hound]

That and Siege - Part I + Harbor of Souls

[obsidian shard]

Agreed it was spectacular

The Atlan and Dragon combat for the first time was sooo cool

The resurrection and all the cutscenes were so hype (siege, Intros, Ahzrak is so cool)

#1 Ahzrak Glazer

The sentinel Command station, From Beyond and Spire of Nerathul are engraved in memory, that's shit was soo cool

[thin hound]

The cosmic baron showing up to Into the Void reminded me of my favorite Eternal moments like the first time we see the hell knight with Meathook playing or the first time The Only Thing They Fear is You played for the revenant

Ahzrak has probably the best line in all of DOOM, I think you know the one from the trailer

[wintry forge]

I remember getting through halfway through Temple of Lomarith and having to stop because I had to go to work and I literally had to call my brother (who beat it the first day way before me) to be like “bro why are there no cutscenes for the past 3 missions? What’s going on?” And he was just like “dude, just wait until the next mission, it gets crazy, you won’t be complaining anymore”

Bro was not wrong

[obsidian shard]

"All the Power of Hell...Cowering before one man"

[thin hound]

Actually no, but that’s a good one

[fading osprey]

“I can never rule as king, so long as you are the only one they fear.”

[wintry forge]

The music drop as the camera zoomed out to show the Slayer/ Old One traveling through the portal

[thin hound]

“I can never rule as king, so long as you are the only one they fear.”

[wintry forge]

That dude jumped outta nowhere. It was peak

[obsidian shard]

The music straight up Elevated the cutscenes for me

[thin hound]

This line does perfectly incapsulate DOOM though

[obsidian shard]

So hype tho

[thin hound]

The coolest boat scene of all time

[wintry forge]

Nah the BEST has gotta be “you feel you are prepared now… for this…”

[wintry forge]

underrated cutscene

[obsidian shard]

Beating Eternal for the first time gave me dopamine I have never felt before then I played the DLC

Then Dark Ages came out

The Franchise gives me my "high"

[thin hound]

Absolutely same

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-so-peak-peak-panda-peak-panda-it's-just-so-peak-gif-10789048890486755182

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[obsidian shard]

What's lurking Hato

[harsh egret]

u know me

came back from short gym sesh now chillin

[obsidian shard]

Peak dude

[thin hound]

DOOM metal is like steroids

And also caffeine

[harsh egret]

was jamming to some dark ages ost while gymmin'

its too peak

[obsidian shard]

Be like me dude:

Work out
Be on diet
Still fat (people say I'm "Husky" also tbf im 6'2" and still fit in a L and XL)

[thin hound]

Huskies are usually very thin, best dog breed

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ascend-ascension-music-spongebob-music-gif-12623289653326522061

[wintry forge]

Jamming at work this morning to @mystic barn ‘s Blood Red mix

[obsidian shard]

Huskies and Sheppard's are undoubtedly the best dog breeds (imo)

[thin hound]

Why is the music channel here so flooded with non-DOOM related shite?

[obsidian shard]

If it's metal, then it's fine (I think)

[thin hound]

You can’t play heavy metal with an acoustic

[harsh egret]

i see mostly doom or metal related music

[thin hound]

I would know, I have a Shecter Damien Platinum 9 string

[obsidian shard]

I'll trade ya

A mace

[thin hound]

Not a chance, it was $1000 and took 4 attempts to actually get a hold of one

[obsidian shard]

55$

Final offer

[harsh egret]

ill bid 56

[obsidian shard]

Fuck I can't outdo that

[harsh egret]

[thin hound]

Get me a hold of 56 Sentinel coins, then we’ll talk

[obsidian shard]

So I have 54 left to get

[thin hound]

[frail bloom]

That was true for me after the update, before it sometimes didn't even play🥀

I remember watching reactions to Doom slayer rising from the dead in Harbor of souls and no music played for 3/4 of the reactions

Genuinely no idea how it was like this

[harsh egret]

oh yeah on launch that scene specifically didnt play any music either for me

[frail bloom]

Just 🦗

[harsh egret]

the opening scene to harbor of souls

other than that i remember it being fine

[mystic barn]

\m/

[frail bloom]

I also think when he rips out the bomb from his chest, the drop transitioning to into the void is also too quiet

[harsh egret]

it is yh

[frail bloom]

Or was, idk how it is now

[harsh egret]

it still is

[frail bloom]

Oh dang

Ye it should not be like that

Music ain't getting the justice it deserves, All I'l say, all I'll say

[wintry forge]

Track fits too perfectly for that moment to be so poorly mixed

[frail bloom]

All it takes is raising the volume a bit on their end. First impressions matter for cutscenes and having the drop this inconsenquential just sucks

I hope for the dlc they don't f up the mixing like Tag

Tag's is just depressing

[mystic barn]

Deadass thought it was deliberate. Even in the level, I didn’t have music. Got halfway through before realising that something was off

[wintry forge]

Yeah, happened to me. I relaunched the game after I noticed there was no music when I picked up the berserk

[mystic barn]

When Allstin said Harbor of Souls had the most unique storytelling for a DOOM game, I thought having no music was apart of it lol. Then I realised that I was missing out on the best piece of music in game

[thin hound]

I think that glitch may have been for Nvidia, because I was playing on AMD and it never happened for me

[warm ibex]

Never happened to me on ps5

[mystic barn]

You reckon? Seems odd that a graphics processing unit would affect the Wwise system

[thin hound]

Just a correlation, probably isn’t that

[obsidian shard]

same (xbox)

[stone pasture]

Doom slayer is said to be able to lift 4 million tons, but the dreadmace is infinitely dense so infinitely heavy, so doesn't that mean doom slayer can lift infinite weight

[wintry forge]

Did you play the prerelease?

[foggy fable]

The slayer cannot lift 4 million Tons

[thin hound]

I think both are just blatant exaggerations

[stone pasture]

In codex it is said the dreadmace is actually infinitely dense

[thin hound]

But there is probably some Cosmic Realm property to it that allows the density to be counteracted

[obsidian shard]

I question I always forget to ask Hugo

[wintry forge]

For some reason I thought Hugo answered this one

[thin hound]

Anyone willing to go through 27 hours of stream footage to find out?

[frail bloom]

They're just inflating it cuz they can't lift it

It's what we call a myth

It's not 4 million tons idk how anyone looks at that and believes it

The whole point of these games is that each side of history is skewed

[thin hound]

75% of all DOOM codexes is bias, lies, or hyperbole

[frail bloom]

Just cuz they're in the codeces does not make them all truthful

Plus if it was infinitely dense, why doesn't the doom slayer sink when he goes in the water presuming he has it?
(This ain't a real argument it's just funny to think abt)

[mystic barn]

Y’know how Mjolnir in the MCU films requires one to be worthy to wield it? Could that be a similar explanation for the Dreadmace? It’s so heavy that any normal human couldn’t lift it, but because Doomguy is a special kind of normal human, he can. The infinite density is just cope from the people that couldn’t lift it

[foggy fable]

That would be my guess 100%

[wintry forge]

Wouldn’t be the the first Avengers reference

[stone pasture]

The slayer suit probably have similar pocket dimension storage to the praetor suit, so the weight isn't there, and the weight is only directed on the mace it's self, not the user

[mystic barn]

If it is a worthiness thing, then Doomguy in TDA could be viewed as a Captain America-type figure. Got the shield, the weapon that is predicated on some kind of worth, a clear sense of right and wrong

[wintry forge]

AYOOOO TDA is just a captain america Horror/ Fantasy fps

[crude sparrow]

doomguy literally has hammerspace lol

[thin hound]

Or you know, the Cosmic Realm exists outside of the known universe, so things from it might not work the way we expect them to scientifically

[crude sparrow]

but then when you bring stuff from it into the real world do they still work different?

[thin hound]

Yes, because it was formed in the Cosmic Realm, so it retains properties from there

[crude sparrow]

idk I think at this point we're overthinking it xD

the codex says the dreadmace is infinitely dense, is it so outlandish to believe the slayer would be able to lift it?

I mean it's the slayer

[thin hound]

Not really overthinking it to just call it undiscovered scientific anomalies and leave it at that

[obsidian shard]

He does almost drop it when he first gets it

Then Electricity encircled his Gauntlet/Arm

[crude sparrow]

I actually didnt know that

[obsidian shard]

It does be exploding (Imploding?) enemies tho.

Is it infinitely dense?
Probs not

But it is probably heavy asf

[crude sparrow]

they kinda just get liquified

[obsidian shard]

Also the only melee weapon to "Stun" Enhanced Ahzrak

[foggy fable]

So does fruit in the ninja bullet but idk if I’d call that infinitely dense

[stone pasture]

Doom slayer is limiting his strength so he doesn't destroy a planet by smacking the ground

[foggy fable]

Yeah no

[green estuary]

Well every melee does that with a combo
Except the mace’s “combo” is just 1 hit, so you can interrupt him with one swing

[obsidian shard]

I could swear it doesnt

Lemme play da level again

[crude sparrow]

I think enhanced ahzrak might be an exception

I know in the final fight in reckoning you only need 2 melee strikes to falter him

[green estuary]

A 3-hit combo from the gauntlets and flail both falter him iirc
The problem is often being able to actually execute 3 hits in a row

[crude sparrow]

so you essentially get the third one for free without any risk

[stone pasture]

Did I literally started a debate using the dreadmace codex?

[obsidian shard]

Debates are good

However Arguing is not good

[frail bloom]

[foggy fable]

^^^^^^^

[frail bloom]

I can't believe this is a debate

[wintry forge]

It sucks that we have to debate what is stated in the codexes 🥀🥀

[crude sparrow]

idk I thought we already knew the slayer was strong af lol

[obsidian shard]

He do be strong af

[foggy fable]

I mean just logically infinitely dense makes no sense or there wouldn’t even be a war

[wintry forge]

Ong. He can lift it if he needs to, that’s all that matters

[frail bloom]

Bro he could vaporize ahzrak with his finger if that was the case

But he doesn't

[crude sparrow]

logically a lot of things dont make much sense if you start thinking about them

[foggy fable]

He let his dragon die

If he was actually that strong

[obsidian shard]

1000% damage, Ahzrak is baked mincemeat

[wintry forge]

He was learning his powers lol. That’s why he evaporates him in the 3rd round

[crude sparrow]

btw, is the third round actually any easier from the other 2?

[frail bloom]

Again

If you were infinitely strong

[wintry forge]

I think it’s harder. Just feels easier cuz of the stakes being raised

[frail bloom]

You can do ANYTHING

[foggy fable]

Why need a mech

[obsidian shard]

I just do Gameplay does not mean Lore and vice versa

[obsidian shard]

It's been shown and told he doesn't

[frail bloom]

Why can't we just chalk it up to hyperbole

[foggy fable]

But then even cutscenes should show power

[frail bloom]

There's several instances of the codeces being bias in all games

[wintry forge]

Let’s be real, a mech wouldn’t have been strong enough to kill the Old One. He’s immortal, and the mechs are just machinery. It’s only because the Slayer was piloting it.

[foggy fable]

If it’s because he was piloting it it wouldn’t get a boost

[stone pasture]

The slayer is stronger than his weapons, as you can see when he is in berserk mode in doom 2016 and eternal, so he has infinite strength since davoth is god, and doom slayer got the strength of davoth

[foggy fable]

It’s just a machine after all

[frail bloom]

[foggy fable]

Davoth isn’t god tho

[obsidian shard]

Artbook reaffirms this lmao

"ONLY the Slayer can utilize an Atlan to its full Potential"

[wintry forge]

Berserk slayer is lore-accurate slayer

[mystic barn]

Because he’s a normal dude for the most part, it does become strange that he can wield something of an infinite density. I think the worthiness thing checks out because it plays into him being a special human and it validates other scholars deeming it infinitely dense because they haven’t been able to lift it. Realistically, it’s probably about 100kg when Doomguy lifts it because he is “worthy” so to speak

[frail bloom]

No one understands what infinite strength is apparently

[foggy fable]

Strength that never ends not actual super strength

Think atlas

[frail bloom]

Nvm I see some ppl understand

[stone pasture]

Davoth is the first being, and made the father, and the father was thought to be God, but what can create a god, the god

[foggy fable]

Davoth isn’t first being tho

[stone pasture]

Boi have you even play the ancient gods part 2

[foggy fable]

Yep

[obsidian shard]

Fairly certain he looses 90% of his power when The father takes it and what we see in TAG is whats left

[wintry forge]

I mean we don’t know. Hugo worded “who creates primevals?” In a sense that there may or may not be someone who does

[mystic barn]

Davoth was created though

[crude sparrow]

it's implied theres a higher being to even davoth but we dont know anything about them

[stone pasture]

The father literally said that he was made by davoth

[wintry forge]

It’s more of an interpretation question, until we see it in-game it’s not confirmed

[obsidian shard]

"INTRODUCING THE FINAL BOSS

HUGO MARTIN'S HEAD ON A STICK"

[wintry forge]

“To win the game…”

[foggy fable]

Heck Davoth being defeated wasn’t even a sense of accomplishment. Mans had no powers and was just in a suit of armor. Compared to all the bosses he’s fought hes ironically one of the weakest

[frail bloom]

Also does the dreadmace ever fall on the floor?

[stone pasture]

No

[obsidian shard]

When you die

[frail bloom]

Hm

[frail bloom]

Tell me does it go through the earths core

[foggy fable]

Does it blow a hole in mars tho?

[crude sparrow]

imagine it's like dead man's switch

[stone pasture]

Yes

[wintry forge]

Let’s be real guys, The Father is the goat. He overpowered Davoth before he took the “creator” role. What does this say about The Father’s true power? Is he stronger than Davoth? Did he get lucky?

Another thing we may never know for sure

[crude sparrow]

if they kill him while he's holding it the planet just explodes

[obsidian shard]

It actually does break my computer (it can't run Dark Ages)

[frail bloom]

Man maybe the sentinel scholars need to lift some more

[thin hound]

Morgoth!?

[frail bloom]

Or idk maybe use a machine to lift the mace

[stone pasture]

The father literally said he was made by davoth, and the father was thought to be god, so it is said davoth is the true god

[wintry forge]

Yes, but the “Mysterious Voice” from Eternal exists

[frail bloom]

You telling me they tried lifting it and just decided, " a shi it's too heavy must be infinitely dense"

[obsidian shard]

"Marty with long hair gif"

[frail bloom]

No assistance or anything

[wintry forge]

That was a phase bro

[thin hound]

That mysterious voice is pretty obviously Davoth

[frail bloom]

Davits is the new name now

[crude sparrow]

I mean we used to do something similar like 500 years ago xD

[obsidian shard]

Davits

[thin hound]

Dave

[foggy fable]

Davits with the steel chair

[wintry forge]

It’s not Davoth’s. Hugo said it wasn’t, it was just to show that there was something beyond Urdak

[frail bloom]

Davits is the aussie version of Davoth

[frail bloom]

EXACTLY

[wintry forge]

Davit is the true creator

[frail bloom]

Do you see now

They're just clouded

[thin hound]

It sounds kind of like Davoth, it was a disembodied voice and he had an alliance with the Khan Maykr

[crude sparrow]

"oh hold on we can't really explain this yet because we're stupid... must be witchcraft"

[obsidian shard]

Mancubus eats Davoth

[wintry forge]

It was a completely distorted voice wym it sounded like Davoth 🥀

[thin hound]

A little bit

[wintry forge]

Why would Davoth be upset when his goal was to destroy Urdak?

[obsidian shard]

What are you?
The Ancient Gods part II

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[crude sparrow]

didn't the subtitle originally say it's the father screaming and it was later changed to "mysterious voice"?

[thin hound]

He was upset that the Khan Maykr died because their alliance provided more worlds for Hell to consume

[wintry forge]

No, he planned this. He planned on creating the Slayer to kill the Kahn and destroy the Heavens for revenge

[thin hound]

He didn’t create the Slayer, that’s another one of those false codexes

[wintry forge]

No, it was mysterious voice, then a bug in an update several months later changed it to “dark lord” then they immediately patched it back to “mysterious voice” and Hugo came out and said that was a bug to not confuse people

[wintry forge]

Brother… what’s going on…

[thin hound]

The Slayer is just a human mortal man given enhancement by the Maykrs

[wintry forge]

Where have you been

[crude sparrow]

yeah I remember hugo saying he didnt create doomguy

[obsidian shard]

Let's be real

Ahzrak Negative-diffs Davoth

[wintry forge]

Davoth orchestrated that bro. With a shard of his power. You’re ragebaiting

[crude sparrow]

even banished, he was able to nudge certain things into happening

[wintry forge]

He was always a primeval, Davoth just jump started what was always inside of him

[obsidian shard]

Bro forgot it was the last of his power

[crude sparrow]

but didnt directly create doomguy

[wintry forge]

Bro forgot that TAG2’s codex told the entire story of the Slayer

[thin hound]

When The Father said, “All things were made by his hand, even you…” that was just referring to the fact that Davoth began the universe, and that the Divinity Machine essence was derived from him

[wintry forge]

No, that he directly created him

[crude sparrow]

chat I am 100% convinced hugo did say davoth didnt create doomguy

I remember the clip

[wintry forge]

He orchestrated it, he nudged Samur and the Kahn to do it

[crude sparrow]

^^^^^

[thin hound]

We all agreed that the codexes are barely reliable

[crude sparrow]

but didnt create doomguy as a being

[frail bloom]

Hugo also said the Doom slayer went to hell cuz he killed a lot of demons
Not a trustworthy source at times

[wintry forge]

He created him. Not biologically, but he created “the slayer.” Not the marine. Which proves that Davoth isnt the creator, and doesn’t create primevals

[wintry forge]

They’re informative. The only thing unreliable really is the differing perspectives of the Book of Seraphs to the true creation of Urdak and Jekkad

[thin hound]

And also the hyperbole

[wintry forge]

At least in this debate’s case

[crude sparrow]

he lent his power into the divinity machine and then persuaded samur to put doomguy in it, so yes he kinda created the slayer, but also not exactly

[thin hound]

And that many of the codexes were just the UAC’s interpretations of translated ancient texts

[versed quarry]

Azhrak does not win that dude what are you talking about

[wintry forge]

He didn’t lend it exactly, the Father kept a shard of Davoth’s essence after he overpowered him. Davoth directly guided the Kahn to find it. He unlocked the power within the marine, turning him into the Slayer. This was Davoth’s intent. That way the Slayer would rebel against the Heavens and kill the Kahn, which would destroy Urdak in the process. So Davoth wouldn’t have yelled “noooo!” When his plan worked

[obsidian shard]

Nah nah nah trust

[thin hound]

Davoth is the oldest god, Ahzrak has the power of a god

[frail bloom]

Depends on Davoth's state

Tag 2 davoth is an unc🥀

[wintry forge]

Wraith Enhanced Ahzrak mid diffs TAG2 Davoth

[versed quarry]

He has the mech though

[obsidian shard]

But Ahzrak wine by.... Doing things and other things and then he wins/solos

[thin hound]

At this point how many gods are even in DOOM? 3 plus all the Wraiths?

[frail bloom]

His mech is unc too🥀

[obsidian shard]

Samir is becoming Unc

[frail bloom]

[thin hound]

University of North Carolina?

[versed quarry]

I’d wager the mech could beat Azhrak

[frail bloom]

Ye a wraith god.

[obsidian shard]

Ahzrak wins due to pure Aura

[frail bloom]

Right.

[wintry forge]

Ain’t no way hulkbuster beats enhanced Ahzrak

[frosty roost]

wait why are we talking about davoth vs azhrak?

[frail bloom]

Cuz it fun

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[wintry forge]

Is Davoth “stronger than maybe even you?”

Exactly. I didn’t think so

[thin hound]

Are all of the Old Ones gods or just the main one?

[frosty roost]

i mean davoth is kinda hot ngl

[obsidian shard]

[crude sparrow]

thats because he looks like doomguy

[thin hound]

They never said it but it’s pretty clear that a god is stronger than any human

[frosty roost]

true