the-dark-ages

[crisp frigate]

brooooo imagine they made TDA Stone Imps so that you have to kill them with Burst Fire Combat Shotgun, emphasizing swapping upgrades

[topaz oasis]

what's a cosistent way of killing S. imps in tda besides shield bash?

[wheat sigil]

basically just the arachnotron but without trying to conceal it as a real enemy

[empty furnace]

crazy how WE ALL want spirit marauders and buff totems back in tda, and its even crazier because ALL OF US want both buffs to stack

[crude sparrow]

Who's we?

[wheat sigil]

and what exacrly is their valid purpose

[versed quarry]

everybody

[obsidian shard]

Marauders can't exist In TDA.

[crisp frigate]

Marauders don't exist yet, they were made in wake of the Sentinel Civil War which hasn't happened yet

[wheat sigil]

yea tda buffs are kinda boring

[crude sparrow]

Is this "we" in the room with us? 😭

[topaz oasis]

ehem ehem... Aggadons

[wintry forge]

They’re not “great” or “peak” in the slightest, but I do like their inclusion. They serve their purpose, creating more drama to have to balance out in a heated combat scenario. Just something difficult to have to put up with in the heat of a battle

[harsh egret]

also i enjoyed ur recent vid saw it yesterday

[topaz oasis]

Aggadons is what happens when a marauder and a blood maykr go on a date

[crude sparrow]

Aggadons basically play exactly like marauders lol

[wintry forge]

Thanks bro!

[harsh egret]

word to word how i feel lol

[obsidian shard]

It was fire, where is bros Creator role at

[harsh egret]

trueeee

[topaz oasis]

aggadons are marauders that just stay away from you and spam projectiles from a distance instead of pursuing you just like blood maykrs

[obsidian shard]

Their design is great imo, since you need to get up close with them to kill them (Like the cyberdemon)

[wintry forge]

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-thatboiicheck-gunna-young-thug-hot-gif-15959855

[topaz oasis]

yoooo, how is your nickname even allowed in this server

[wintry forge]

Why wouldn’t it be allowed?

[wheat sigil]

don't feel like writing a long text about cursed prowlers again, but they don't find a purpose with enemy prioritization, because it's so extremely basic
every part of the curse is bad
they're buggy
they lack options in combat
they're just a reskin

[obsidian shard]

Mmmm skin

[crude sparrow]

I was about to ask "is .... A banned word now?" And my message got deleted 😭

[topaz oasis]

I just tried to type S. imps (all together) in reference to stone imps and I got censored

[frail bloom]

Welp I couldn't type it too

[topaz oasis]

[green estuary]

holy shit you're right

I can cuss but s-i-m-p isn't allowed somehow

[wintry forge]

The unexpected drama is just interesting on occasion. Sure they’re annoying, but they’re meant to be. Their purpose is to throw something random at you since we already understand the combat loop. Just a fun curveball at times

[harsh egret]

why is that word banned lol

[uncut mauve]

Hi

[frail bloom]

I don't like cursed prowlers cuz they're shrek green

[wintry forge]

If they were in more combat encounters than they are currently, then I’d think they suck completely. But they’re in very little situations as it is

[frail bloom]

Why the weird green

[crude sparrow]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

They only appear like twice

[wheat sigil]

just because something is meant to be annoying doesn't justify it, there has to be an actual, valid reason behind it (such as with the carcass)

[wintry forge]

I thought it was a meme word? I have no idea lol. Never had an issue with it

[topaz oasis]

too explicit for the soy beans I guess 🥀

[crude sparrow]

Me neither lol idk why it's banned

[harsh egret]

no

is the cosmic realm weird cuz its green samir

[frail bloom]

No but the cursed prowler is swamp green

The cosmic realm is more Jade

And I love Jade

[harsh egret]

theres plenty of swamp green

[frail bloom]

Shut up

[harsh egret]

if anything cuz of the lighting most of it is swamp green

[wheat sigil]

doesn't make the enemt any better, just less prevelent and therefore has less opportunities to annoy you

[frail bloom]

I like it better on the enviroment then an enemy ok

That's my reasoning

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-future-drake-life-is-good-high-off-life-gif-18160700

[frail bloom]

Yes

[wintry forge]

On rare occasion they can be interesting and unexpected. Simple as that. If they were more prominent in TAG2 then they already are then it would be completely different. At launch, they didn’t have a unique “alert” sound effect. I think they sucked then. But they added the trigger sound and fixed most of his “bugs” so it’s more tolerable now. I don’t think he’s “great” by any means, I just think they’re a little too overhated

[wintry forge]

I’ll bring the word back

[wintry forge]

That’s pretty silly

[topaz oasis]

lmao ikr?

they even went out of their way to block any variations or possible workarounds people could come up with

[harsh egret]

i wonder what happened that they had to ban it lol

[topaz oasis]

what can you even s... imp at in freaking DOOM?

whiplashes???

[harsh egret]

thats what i mean lol

[topaz oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/licking-lips-yummy-yum-delicious-gif-25780510

oh yeah, those snake baddies are hot...

[harsh egret]

oke dud

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sons-of-the-forest-the-forest-kelvin-kelvin-thumbs-up-kelvin-on-fire-gif-27633639

[wheat sigil]

i only started playing about 2 years ago, so i'm not referencing any of the bugs at release

they can't really catch you off guard because of the sound effect when they spawn, so you probably just wanna go and kill them immediately when they spawn (very boring), and doesn't add to enemy prioritization. if you get cursed, sure it's a bit unpredictable, but it also removes movement options in a movement based game, is completely random in a "skill based" game, has even more bugs, gives an annoying filter, forces you to focus on one enemy. and on top of that they can basically only perform 2 actions in combat (if they see you, they shoot, otherwise they teleport)

[harsh egret]

i just played sons of the forest how did i forget his name

[slender night]

Doomicorn skin

[topaz oasis]

oh my gosh

[versed quarry]

That one time when I tried to look up “commander Thira” and accidentally typed “coommander Thira”

[uncut mauve]

Is battlemode on doom eternal dead?

[slender night]

Ask in the Eternal channel

[topaz oasis]

the IoS' buttcheecks!!

[wintry forge]

It adds enemy prioritization because you could be in a heated situation and have to immediately run and take out the Prowler because you know what will happen if they catch up to you before you catch up to them. So it’s more of a test of mobility

[topaz oasis]

have you guys checked those perfectly polished gems?

[harsh egret]

battlemode is a party game now, not a multiplayer game

[wintry forge]

They aren’t perfect by any means, I’m not saying they’re the greatest enemy lol

[topaz oasis]

now that's something I would truly s... imp for

[wheat sigil]

well that's just the same boring thing as for archviles: as soon as they spawn you just go and kill them. it's so vapid it doesn't really offer anything in terms of enemy prioritization. for normal enemies, it's more complex andchanges depending on situation and arena

[wintry forge]

Let’s just use the term “stone imp” for it

[slender night]

I propose Stoney

[topaz oasis]

lmao that aint bad

Stoner could also work

[wintry forge]

I mean, blood maykrs are meant to be killed quickly as well. As with Doom II’s pain elementals. Just because their purpose is to get killed at first priority doesn’t doesn’t mean it doesn’t work in the game imo

[kindred herald]

I GOT A DOOM VINYL AND PLAYER LESGGGOOOO

[wintry forge]

Back me up here!

[kindred herald]

YEEESSSSS

[warm ibex]

I have no stake in this conversation but wanted to chime in just to say fuck blood maykrs

[harsh egret]

agreed

[harsh egret]

yh and fuck u too

[wheat sigil]

for blood maykrs you actually have to balance the utility of max ammo vs the reduced threat by killing them

[green estuary]

fuck boston blood maykrs

[wheat sigil]

nuh uhh

[warm ibex]

ain't no way your lame ass is a blood maykr fan

[wintry forge]

Its okay to be wrong bro

[green estuary]

blood maykrs are ass

[warm ibex]

we settle for less in this server 🗣️🔥

[harsh egret]

i just dont think they suck, i dont think they are this "amazing enemy" or whatever

[kindred herald]

blood makyrs were easy dawg, evem with my sucky aim they aren't hard

[wintry forge]

Agreed

[kindred herald]

i wish they made a different kind of one

[wintry forge]

Blood Maykrs are irritating at times, they aren’t perfect either, but I don’t “hate” them lol

[fading osprey]

Prince asscrack

[green estuary]

me when another traffic light enemy exists

[kindred herald]

YES tho

[unkempt dragon]

😑

[fading osprey]

Nice pfp…it reminds me of a certain someone

[harsh egret]

lm why was the word banned

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/glitch-productions-glitch-n-serial-designation-n-murder-drones-gif-9862206277247258237

[unkempt dragon]

Idk I don't make the rules

[wheat sigil]

blood maykrs and marauders are good partly because they don't function as a traffic light enemy in the same way as the armored baron

[harsh egret]

ah lol alr

[kindred herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1433798311378161664.gif?quality=lossless&name=emoji_28&size=48

[harsh egret]

was just curious

[wintry forge]

IconOfStoneimp since we can’t say the word

[green estuary]

do they not?

[pine terrace]

Because people decide to be weird and creepy about words and it makes people here uncomfortable

[harsh egret]

damn i didnt think people would say it here of all servers lol

[kindred herald]

I wish we had doom mini bosses

like a tab to fight any boss

you have already

[fading osprey]

Fellow md fan

[green estuary]

superheavies are minibosses in their own way

[kindred herald]

37 rewatches :)** **

[green estuary]

with how much they can disrupt combat in TDA they're very much deserving of miniboss status

[warm ibex]

DOOM Eternal fans after years of being conditioned into believing they have to enjoy piss poor enemy designs or else they'll be labeled a game journalist and subsequently crucified

[unkempt dragon]

you'd be surprised. I see it get blocked out constantly in the log and people using it in a creepy way

[wheat sigil]

marauders don't because timing and bait, lock-on redirect, feet ballista and animation states
blood maykrs don't because you can just snipe them anytime they open up easily

[green estuary]

well you can plasma the armored baron's armor off

(I'm reaching here)

[wintry forge]

They’ll be crucified to say the least

[kindred herald]

I refuse to believe it. MY BARONS ARE BALANCED I JUST CANT PROVE IT YET

[wheat sigil]

holy waste😭

especially because they can open up before you're done

[kindred herald]

2016 with the spider mastermind scared the shit out of me

[green estuary]

yeah armored barons are a case of "the only reason you're not dead rn is because my plasma ammo is valuable"

[wheat sigil]

i need it to double fast destroyer blade archviles frfr

[green estuary]

double D blade is such a cheat code

[kindred herald]

i hate when i use the microwave beam but bro alr took all of my ammo and im out of rockets :(** **

[wheat sigil]

yea i never actually use it

fast destroyer blade for the win

[wheat sigil]

it's so fun to integrate into combat too

[green estuary]

when I got two barons and a tyrant all standing in a line

https://tenor.com/view/spongebobs-squarepants-plankton-yes-come-to-papa-gif-17449566

[wintry forge]

Hot take maybe but I hardly use Destroyer Blade

[harsh egret]

Same

[green estuary]

oh yeah, this is ammo efficiency time

[harsh egret]

But cuz i just enjoy playing with the arbalest more

[green estuary]

d blade is just so rewarding

[warm ibex]

I like the instant load after an arbalest hit

back to back arbalest is nice

[wheat sigil]

literally the second best mod in the game (behind meathook)

[harsh egret]

Yup

[green estuary]

you can actually double arbalest too lmao

[topaz oasis]

I never used D.Blade in my eternal career

[wheat sigil]

i use dblade but swap to arbalest for cacos/pain elementals quite often or to get a fast destroyer blade

[topaz oasis]

is there something wrong with me?

[wheat sigil]

you can also double base ballista too

[unkempt dragon]

#doom-eternal

[slender night]

Me too but I'm a casual player

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-hes-right-you-know-correct-true-right-gif-27174315

[wintry forge]

I like Arbalest because it insta loads, one hits cacos, and 2 hits elementals if you immediately follow up with a meathook grab and GK

[wheat sigil]

or do menu dblade (which allows you to use dblade/arba until yiu run out of ammo)

[topaz oasis]

it's all M1's fault, I swear!

[unkempt dragon]

sorry hate to be that person but yeah

[wheat sigil]

what😭

[green estuary]

your honor, my client only mentioned eternal in the tda chat because of undue outside influence

[harsh egret]

Lmao

[warm ibex]

he was paid under the table

[frail bloom]

Rebuttal sir, he keeps doing it

[green estuary]

and I like how everyone just stopped talking rather than go to the eternal chat

such is life in the doom server

[wheat sigil]

i'll go into de chanel then😤

[harsh egret]

Lmao my thoughts exactly

[wintry forge]

Nobody likes chat hopping unless it’s for screenshots or something lmao

[unkempt dragon]

it's not that hard lol

you click a button

[slender night]

It's not really difficult we just don't like to do it for whatever reason lol, I can't tell you why as I have no idea myself but I absolutely get it

[heady trout]

see this is the case for the flame bench in Eternal yet it evades many

[unkempt dragon]

truth

It also gets annoying when you get shit literally everytime you have to repeat a rule that everyone knows

And imo I'm pretty lenient

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1454155103593431102/IMG_20251226_110406.png?ex=69500ef9&is=694ebd79&hm=785c5b4bdc5c6ed4a037dbc39187aeaf4357385d7947e1dc8a775a6fd3639288&

[harsh egret]

I think it depends on if the convo really feels that important

[spark elm]

Armor is at 80 again… we’ll find out on The Forsaken Plains (chapter 10) if my armor increases to 90. If it does, then we’re good, the save stays.

Missed a secret on abyssal forest apparently… I have all the resources though

[merry jackal]

Guys im having an issue

In chapter 16 the encounters are not loading

Plus i have broken all 5 wolf statues

And it's saying only 3 out of 5 collected

If i restart will I lose all my secrets etc progress?

[unkempt dragon]

@green estuary ^

[green estuary]

If you restart the level then yes you lose all progress

[merry jackal]

😭

I dont want to start from the beginning

[green estuary]

Just on that level though obviously

[merry jackal]

Is there any way to fix this issue

[merry jackal]

Wdym lvl u mesn entire chapter?

😭😭😭

[green estuary]

Yes

[merry jackal]

Is there any other fix

[green estuary]

You’re probably soft locked, so not that I know of

[merry jackal]

I've heard many ppl getting this same issue

Like the exact same

[harsh egret]

Karthul marshes aint that long tho, especially now if u know what to do u can go through it quicker

[merry jackal]

Thing is

I quit this ch long back because of this

I thought game was boring but infact it was because of the bug

So ig idk what to do

[green estuary]

The best thing you can do is to not die

[merry jackal]

Thats easy

Problem is

[green estuary]

95% of the soft locking issues come from dying then reloading

[merry jackal]

I worked so hard and this is what I get in return 😭

[green estuary]

If you didn’t die and are still getting issues then that’s just unlucky ig

[merry jackal]

Dying and reloading how

[merry jackal]

Yea i didnt die

[green estuary]

Idk just finish the level normally

[merry jackal]

Alright

[green estuary]

You don’t have to 100% the level on your first playthrough, you can just go back through mission select

[merry jackal]

And the encounters not spawning is also a bug right

Or is there something I have to do

[merry jackal]

Oh damn

So shkd i restart map from checkpoint

[green estuary]

Bro did you seriously not know this 😭

[merry jackal]

Or restart chapter

[merry jackal]

I thought I had to 100 percent each stage

For platibum

[green estuary]

Try reloading checkpoint and see if the encounters still don’t spawn in

[merry jackal]

Alright

I've restarted the game but it still hasn't spawned

[spark elm]

I want em to increase the amount of life sigils you can hold.

[green estuary]

Yeah you do
But coming back and collecting stuff from mission select still counts towards 100%

[merry jackal]

Oo alright

For platinum is normal difficulty enough

[green estuary]

4 is more than enough tbh

[merry jackal]

Like violence

[spark elm]

So many in each level…

[merry jackal]

Oh bruh

Doom tda is going to be my first platinum then

😭

[harsh egret]

its pretty easy

[merry jackal]

Life sigil?

[green estuary]

Honestly using a 1up to get through an encounter feels like ass anyways
I’d rather finish it all in one go

I’m glad they added the option to not carry sigils

[merry jackal]

🤣

Changed opinions so fast

[frail bloom]

Facs

[green estuary]

wdym
I have never said I like using sigils

I just said that 4 sigils at a time is more than enough if you really want to use them

[spark elm]

yeah maybe like 3 per level or so

oh but not in mech levels

[merry jackal]

Oh nvm

I confused u with @spark elm

😭

[spark elm]

oh lol

in eternal, was there a cap on sigils?

[warm ibex]

nah, TDA introduced the extra life limit

well I guess it technically did have a maximum, but it was 99

[spark elm]

Oh wow.

[warm ibex]

no need for official announcements, I've got a secret screenshot of the dlc script right here 😌 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1454197437169401947/image.png?ex=69503666&is=694ee4e6&hm=c6485e19ebceec0e6400c530a0ad95fc4a12159acc0202d02d697ff2fe20774d

[slender night]

I cleared chapter 1 of TDA on UN first try, this is the first time anything like this has happened to me in any of these games

[slender night]

I thought this would be that "what is this, some kind of resurrection of evil?" gag we had before TDA came out

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

[unkempt dragon]

LMAO

[versed quarry]

Wow, the DLC looks so cool!

[fleet spruce]

Holy shit

perhaps, with this we may have peaked as a civilization

[versed quarry]

Honestly surprised that the mods haven't taken down this leak yet

[obsidian shard]

WHAT IS THIS 😭😭😭

[green estuary]

Finally a doom game where the early game isn’t aids

(a modern doom game, that is)

[elder raven]

I May have Looked on Youtube. I’m Not lying, Guys, the dlc trailer is on youtube

[warm ibex]

it's peak...

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

dlc trailer dropped?

this is totally a trustworthy source

[stone pasture]

Any true sources

[elder raven]

check the first letters of my post

[obsidian shard]

"Katsu go left
Hato go right
Soaptogo... Go"

Ahh writing

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/you-go-now-you-go-falling-down-cashier-go-gif-885592940180694302

[stone pasture]

I checked youtube and there is no trailer from bethesda

[fading osprey]

“Together, we are DOOM discord server.”🥀

[elder raven]

check the first letter of my message lol

[unkempt dragon]

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-for-it-again-award-gif-13516122002380463869

[elder raven]

@stone pasture

[stone pasture]

The first letter is i

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-its-so-peak-praying-hands-praying-black-guy-gif-9969548697603007069

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai-gif-14475294631445060178

the first letter of every word

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-doom-eternal-gif-17018079158549458753

[stone pasture]

Stop this and is there even any new info on the dlc campaign

[unkempt dragon]

lol no

[obsidian shard]

I'm hlay in lg tdti oy

[elder raven]

TOMORROW

the capitalized ones

[versed quarry]

Always bet on tomorrow.

[slender night]

Nothing Ever Happens

[slender night]

DOOM: Annihilation wishes it was written this well

[stone pasture]

Don't make me get "larry"

[elder raven]

dlc is under there 🚨

[fading osprey]

Not Larry

[warm ibex]

"any updates on the DLC" ahh writing

[stone pasture]

I will subscribe to you if you tell me everything you know

[slender night]

Good cop interrogation

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-dexter-morgan-idk-gif-2440520923239485215

[slender night]

Alright now buddy, tell me everything you know ahout this here crime and maybe I'll like, maybe I'll subscribe, maybe I'll hit the bell for notifications so I don't miss any future uploads.

[stone pasture]

Midnight is better than you, your last post is l + ratio ahh

[obsidian shard]

For the "All DLC info" stuff
Like 99% of the credit goes to Hato and Samir for those post-stream posts, I wouldn't have done it without them

[warm ibex]

praying that they try to take inspiration from TDA next time universal churns out a straight to dvd B movie so they can keep the license

[unkempt dragon]

I wanna wear my TDA jacket to work today but if it gets anything on it I will have a meltdown

[obsidian shard]

REAL,

[warm ibex]

you gotta buy a special display case for that, type of shit batman hangs his suit in lol

[elder raven]

put it in the microwave sir 👍

[obsidian shard]

"Calling all Slayers"

[slender night]

Here, aspiring slayer, since you are too angry to die and need to punish the guilty, I'll help you get through this dark age on one condition; stand and fight.

[unkempt dragon]

It honestly is so cool and the art is peak it could be a wall hanging

[versed quarry]

Just wear a jacket on top of your TDA jacket so that it doesn't get dirty. Quite simple, really.

[stone pasture]

I got one of the many things guys want, a race champion car lego set

[unkempt dragon]

sweaty

[versed quarry]

fair

[obsidian shard]

The jacket is wayy too warm, another layer will make anyone sweat to death

[unkempt dragon]

yeah it's heavy

[slender night]

I don't even need to make one for Eternal lol
"He is Doom" "For your fight is eternal"

[obsidian shard]

Its tuff tho

[warm ibex]

a smart strategy, however the days of doomtuber competitions are long past. you have failed once more

[slender night]

No

[harsh egret]

It's like the coolest piece of merch lol

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-michael-scott-the-office-meh-gif-4807852

[unkempt dragon]

yeah I wanna keep it in mint condition bc it's honestly a collector's item

[stone pasture]

Help, larry is in my home

[solar spoke]

Larry or Evil Larry?

[stone pasture]

The larry

[fleet spruce]

Scariest stories - try not to get scared

[green estuary]

your internet must be busted
it's clearly showing up for me

[stone pasture]

Managed to drive larry away

[solar spoke]

Just Batista Bomb him or something I guess

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-the-lobster-gif-9416554851186092597

splats after Larry comes back

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1453922211474964642/ezgif-7da560ffcdbfcf01.gif

[heady trout]

me when i see the fuckass arachnotron

[stone pasture]

Bro, how did you feel when your cousin azdrak was beheaded

[quasi escarp]

How doomguy was feeling when his dragon died:

[obsidian shard]

FINALLY

[frail bloom]

Aw thank you

Being jobless sure does have its benefits

[wintry forge]

#merch-showcase POV: you somehow received a goated Christmas gift

[frail bloom]

Why does it say early access and part one💀

Are these things ppl ask for

Actually now that I recall

Yup

[fleet spruce]

Dreadmace my beloved

[solar spoke]

could the shield saw survive a dreadmace strike from the slayer (slayer isn't the one holding the shield and the holder doesn't need to survive)?

[green estuary]

I'd hazard that the person holding the shield saw would break before the shield saw would

but the dreadmace is likely stronger than the metal that the shield saw is made out of

[warm ibex]

reminds me of something Hugo talked about after the TAG1 trailer dropped and someone asked what the Slayer's sharpening stone was made of

[empty furnace]

starting rn

[warm ibex]

thank you dante

[elder raven]

Thank you Dante, very cool!

[empty furnace]

im loving the dark ages

[green estuary]

it only gets better the further in you get

imo the best chapters of the game are almost exclusively in the latter half of the campaign

[warm ibex]

I think it depends on how you're playing

if it's a fresh playthrough then I think the levels tend to match each other outside of a few notable highs and rare lows

but if you're fully upgraded and playing from chapter select then yeah the good shit is mostly in the latter half

for sure

[green estuary]

I've never actually played the campaign from level select besides my first playthrough where I wanted 100% on everything

[elder raven]

playing final battle, resurrection, and the last one (i forgot the name) is so fun

i just wish there was a way to go to the old one and ahzrak’s boss fight instantly

[slender night]

Reckoning

I only remember it because it's the same name as a Quake II expansion

[elder raven]

i’d like a boss rush mode or just a way to play their fights instantly

[green estuary]

I'll break it down at least the way I see it
the first truly fantastic level for me is Forsaken plains, which is something like chapter 10
the levels before that (with the exception of holy city, I'm not a huge fan of that one) are all at least good imo, but when we first get to hell is the big standout
fast forward a bit, with the exception of spire of nerathul being a bit too long, I genuinely don't think there's a single level that's less than a 9/10 from there onwards

[warm ibex]

correction: TDA used the name first, and then id software time traveled to give Quake a much needed win

[slender night]

So true

[elder raven]

not a fan of forest and forge

[green estuary]

spire, ry'uul, kar'thul, lomarith, belly of the beast, harbor of souls, resurrection, final battle, reckoning
all absolute BANGERS

[elder raven]

forest does have a great skybox though

[obsidian shard]

Hell Levels are the few 10/10 for me

[green estuary]

kadingir sanctum and forsaken plains
the goated hell levels

[elder raven]

reminds me to definitely go back and keep playing 2016

[green estuary]

the 2016 nightmare experience
UAC and Res Ops: "I get one-shot by everything, this sucks"
Foundry & Facility: "where tf am I supposed to go"
Tower: "I love platforming"
Kadingir: "greatest video game of all time"

[warm ibex]

as I was typing out why each pre-forsaken plains level is a hit/miss I started to realize that you're kinda spot on lol. Khalim is easily the best opening level in modern doom imo and Hebeth is a super solid follow up but I don't care too much for Barracks. Aratum is nice but kinda drags in a lot of areas, I think the constant switching between dragon and Slayer makes it feel disjointed instead of feeling like a super open level

I've started to like forest less and ancestral forge more over time

[harsh egret]

lmao im somehow the opposite

tho ive always just loved ancestral forge

[green estuary]

I quite like forge
it's a somewhat open level that manages to stay linear in its objectives

[empty furnace]

i’m starting on uv, i haven’t played doom in 4 months

[warm ibex]

it took a while but it really grew on me. the environments in particular are very nice

[harsh egret]

also lil fun fact u can see the entire sentinel barracks level from the dragon during ressurection

[warm ibex]

I like that detail

[harsh egret]

a very low poly version of it :d

yeah i realised on my last playthrough i saw the dragons den but i thought they just put it there for the cool visuals as you fly past but no its actually the whole level and it actually makes sense

[harsh egret]

yh i agree, 2016's hell levels are just perfection

[green estuary]

if only they had gotten more adventurous with their design

because the combat + music is absolute perfection

[harsh egret]

when i first played and entered kadingir sanctum i was like holy shit this is so cool man

[warm ibex]

the "He Is Here" line that plays when you first enter Kadingir is actually one of the most peak moments in modern doom I swear

[slender night]

The part of Hell where there's an acid maze a Mancubus ambushes you in with a very loud choir is fucking amazing

[warm ibex]

2016 is just fucking peak man

[heady trout]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

2016s story is still the best

[warm ibex]

if TDA didn't offer such peak I'd say that 2016 is still the undefeated champion of Doom in general

[green estuary]

the most peak moments in modern doom video gaming

[warm ibex]

fucking facts

[heady trout]

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. He chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace. And with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. And those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... The Doom Slayer.

his writing is fire???

[slender night]

Way better than the He is DOOM shit ARC Complex pulled

[heady trout]

yeah 100%

Doom Eternal had a micro tidbit of that 2016 fire and it was the random priest in the intro

i wish he was the lead voice in ARC complex and not the woman and spoke his gospel

[green estuary]

2016's testaments walked so dr elena richardson could crawl

[heady trout]

"they fear the mark of the beast" get Elena out of here THIS guy was the goat we needed

[slender night]

Well the Icon of Sin feels like the 2016 writing encapsulated, he's badass, he's mysterious, he's great

That theme too. Always fucks me up with how low the bass is but it's a banger

[heady trout]

Eternals story is good in the first two levels and two last

[slender night]

Sentinel Prime?

[heady trout]

hmmm

mayhaps

rip...and...tear ✍️ 🔥

[slender night]

It's the perfect story level, there's fan service, cool shots, fantastic eerie music

[warm ibex]

2016's testaments rocket jumped so richardson could swim with concrete shoes

and TDA doesn't really have anything like that, for better or worse

[slender night]

Does the ending speech not count

[warm ibex]

barely

it's like two lines

[slender night]

That's true

[warm ibex]

we'll see what the dlc holds. I think they're starting to get the hang of what people actually like and what's just serviceable

[slender night]

I've seen the craziest DLC predictions here man they read like those fake clickbait Breaking Bad 2 trailers

What the public wants is so different from what I want it's crazy, people want more of Daisy to the point of some people advocating for her revival while I want less of her if anything

[warm ibex]

I don't know if the people who want stuff like that are the majority though

there are a lot of very loud people that advocate for unusual things

[slender night]

Maybe the public was the wrong term to use but I've seen polar opposite wants is the main gist

[harsh egret]

Yepp

[warm ibex]

I do get what you mean though

[harsh egret]

Never really realised that ppl didnt enjoy the eternal richardson voice logs until recently lol, why is that

[green estuary]

tbh I don't think I've even listened to half of them

I just couldn't take the cringe

[harsh egret]

I remember listening to them when the game came out I didn't think it was that bad lol

I haven't really listened to them again in a bit tho but I dont remember them being that bad

[warm ibex]

I definitely wouldn't go as far as to say that I hate it lol, but it's very "in your face" to such an unapologetic extent that it wraps around to feeling lame

[slender night]

I listened to them for the first time a bit ago when I was replaying the game and they are agonizingly on the nose

It's in the same writing style as that "I'm your ultranightmare motherfuckers" quote from DA

[warm ibex]

the testaments are essentially just "this guy kicked our ass for an eternity and we fucking hate him" where the richardson logs go from "this guy definitely isn't human" to straight fangirl glaze

[harsh egret]

Lmao

I mean yeah sure, never thought of it like that imo but

[slender night]

He 🌊 is 🌊 Doom

[harsh egret]

Ok sure that one is a lil cringe

[slender night]

She sounded like she was about to explode it was kind of annoying to wait for her to stop doing deep breaths and shit and just tell me what she intends to tell me

[harsh egret]

Buuut other than that to me it was fine but ill have another listen when i continue my eternal playthrough when i get back home

[warm ibex]

it's the general approach that makes it iffy

and not a problem that's exclusive to just the logs. Eternal goes out of its way to hammer in the point that you're the Doom Slayer, a god amongst mortals who doesn't take orders from anyone. 2016 takes a more indirect approach that seems to be focused on making you feel cool instead of directly telling you

to each their own of course, but I like the slightly less direct approach. the power fantasy element is at its best when you kick ass and then read hell scripture talking about how you've been doing this shit since the first age

[harsh egret]

I agree I just have to probably go and have another listen to the eternal ones lol

[warm ibex]

that's fair lol

[harsh egret]

Its been a while since I listened to them but I was just speaking from memory, maybe I'll find it a bit more cringe now

[warm ibex]

they aren't all bad

it just gets a little cringe by the end

would actually be kinda cool if we see the testaments being written at some point, even if that's in the next game and not TDA dlc

[sudden stump]

TBF she sounded a lot more cringy before they re recorded her lines. Arc master level still uses the original takes I think

In the original take she sounds borderline sexual when talking about the Slayer lol

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[green estuary]

hol up I gotta listen now

you have officially piqued my interest lol

[elder raven]

ive been wondering: what does doom mean in the doom universe? davoth says “slaves of doom,” elena said “he is doom,”

[slender night]

It probably just means doom, like, what the actual word means, and they overuse it because oh my god guys they said the thing

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-he-said-it-he-said-gif-5286270

[frail bloom]

Bro what's your discovery

[green estuary]

haven't gotten to my computer yet lol

[lusty tulip]

Tda fun so far

Ultra violence lowk kinda easy but ive played the other 2 in the trilogy so makes sense ig

[stoic remnant]

has anyone extracted the model for the pulverizer by any chance

[brittle finch]

How do DRS and VRS work so well in this game?

[hard thistle]

the game is easier than the previous 2

[spark elm]

90 armor!!! I repeat 90 armor!!! Not glitched this time!

[lusty tulip]

Being able to block damage and have a constant supply of ammo helps

I almost never run our of ammo in this game

[brittle finch]

Depends

That’s why they added the difficulty sliders

Like Doom 1993 was too easy, so they added Nightmare as a joke difficulty

And then Eternal was just stupid hard

And then u have dark ages which is only “hard” cus of bs rng

[hard thistle]

my save file is tainted my the modified tag because i accidentally changed something trying to turn controller aim assist on

[brittle finch]

Same probably

I like testing out settings

My Nightmare save shouldn’t have it

But my UV save has the (*M)

[hard thistle]

the late game combat does kind of boil down to spam shield and melee

cyberdemons are a joke in this game because they just cant do anything to you really once you get within punching distance

[brittle finch]

Melee? Maybe if you really like the mace

Mace is cheesy lol

[hard thistle]

theres actually no reason to use whatever the third melee is called because you get the good one like a third of the way through the game

win button

and i didnt use the bfc once past the level it was introduced in

[warm ibex]

you get the best one in the first level

[brittle finch]

You get a good melee in the first level lol

You can literally kill hell knights in 1 combo after doing like 1 upgrade that costs 50 gold

[warm ibex]

gauntlets vs dreadmace comes down to pure preference/situation when compared. flail not so much, but it ain't bad

[brittle finch]

Even on 50% damage scaling

[hard thistle]

a stiff breeze and a shield bash kills a hellknight

[solid nacelle]

I like using melee a lot and dread mace just recharges way too slowly for my taste

[warm ibex]

same here

[hard thistle]

literally when i read it doesnt fill up a charge with a parry i never touched it

i didnt even bother looking at its upgrades

[warm ibex]

I've recently learned (thanks to katsu and others) that the Gauntlets are capable of producing damage similar to the mace. which is why imo it comes down to preference and situation

[hard thistle]

i like catching enemies on fire and getting a ton of armour so i went with mace

[warm ibex]

flail

[hard thistle]

crap

im a fake fan i dont remember the names of the melee weapons i picked up yesterday

[warm ibex]

flail has weak damage compared to the others but a pretty decent recharge time and the added benefit of crazy damage against enemy armor and a tolerable armor return rate

I use it the most of the three personally

[hard thistle]

ITS THE WEAKEST?

[warm ibex]

by quite a bit yeah

@green estuary do you have the melee damage stats on standby? you're goated with this shit

[hard thistle]

I HAD SUCH A HARD TIME WITH THE FINAL BOSS DUDE I COULD HAVE IMPROVED DAMAGE THIS WHOLE TIME?

[warm ibex]

yeah lol

mace doesn't grant a charge upon every parry for a reason

hits hard. used to have a wider AoE impact too

[hard thistle]

replaying the final battle right now to vindicate myself

[sudden stump]

I forget the mace exists tbh, I'm using the gauntlet in between every action, it's so powerful

Once I realized that you don't have to spam the entire 3-4 hit combo consecutively the game opened up

[warm ibex]

using melee between gun blasts and shield attacks/parries feels nuts

feels better than eternal quick swapping imho

[sudden stump]

Some people don't even realize that you can do that though, they just stand around, wait for a parry and then die trying to mash the melee button

"melee sucks wtf"

[warm ibex]

people don't wanna learn!!!

that makes me sad. so many complaints around launch were made by people who got frustrated because they didn't immediately understand the game

and then never really tried afterwards

[green estuary]

yeah the flail does

absolutely nothing
flail essentially does 2100 damage to your primary target per hit, whereas something like the gauntlets deal 32k for a 4 hit combo

[frail bloom]

Ppl didn't realize that??

It was the first thing I did lmao

Melee between parries

[sudden stump]

Well the game doesn't make it clear that you can space out your melee hits I guess

and still have it count as a combo

[green estuary]

timing a parry in between a melee combo with no slow mo is so satisfying

[frail bloom]

Well that goes for any game

Like quickswitching, ig

[green estuary]

also speaking of quickswitching, I am absolutely ass at eternal now lmao

all it takes is 3 weeks away from it to be an absolute scrub once again

[hard thistle]

that was so much easier

[warm ibex]

see lol

[green estuary]

honestly using the flail even though you know it's kinda ass is the baller move

[warm ibex]

I can't wait to have to completely relearn the game I've put 800 hours into

[green estuary]

all of a sudden I have no idea how to deal with tyrants

[obsidian shard]

Does this include the "Shocked" bonus?

[sudden stump]

Every time I boot Eternal up I keep walking into hell knights thinking I can parry

[warm ibex]

that sounded sarcastic but I'm actually looking forward to it. played it to death, so I'll take an excuse to not know what I'm doing

[obsidian shard]

Instantly load up Tag 1 Blood swamps NOW

[green estuary]

no it doesn't
so I suppose gauntlets actually deal 1000 + 1.2 * (3000 + 12000 + 16000) = 38,200 damage

[obsidian shard]

Gauntlets solo again

[green estuary]

my problem is that I'm absolutely fat fingering all my keybinds

[warm ibex]

I could not fucking handle that

[versed quarry]

Same lmao

[hard thistle]

i didnt even try the ancient gods, heard it was harder than vanilla and was immediately scared off lol

i am NOT good a weapon swapping

[obsidian shard]

I remember my first run of TAG 1.... Super fun but equally one of the most rage-inducing Things I've ever played

Took almost as long as the base Campaign

I was so ass

[green estuary]

duuuude you're missing out

tag1 is so peak

[hard thistle]

bas game eternal had me already feeling like i was in over my head i could not handle it

i am piss baby gamer

[obsidian shard]

What difficulty?

[versed quarry]

This is me but with literally every single game I’ve ever played

[hard thistle]

i dont remember the names but it was the second easiest

[frail bloom]

It's not the same for me idk why

Last time I hopped onto eternal I relearned it instantly, but that's bc I always have the same strat

[green estuary]

I never feel like I'm in over my head in eternal, unless I'm purposefully playing some ridiculous slaughter map

I just suck at it rn because I forgor how to move and weapon swap at the same time

[hard thistle]

dude i cant wait for modding to get big in the dark ages actually i love the combat in this game so much

[green estuary]

yeah that's gonna be fun

if you're on pc then a randomizer has already been released

[versed quarry]

Can’t wait for somebody mod in the Eternal Super Shotgun

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[hard thistle]

im playing on steam deck and modding windows games on deck is hell

[green estuary]

ah yeah

[versed quarry]

Huh

[green estuary]

disgust
it's my default reaction every time someone says they want the meathook in TDA

[hard thistle]

hell getting eternals built in mod support working on deck is hell

[versed quarry]

I dunno what to tell you dude

[hard thistle]

i never liked meathook actually

[versed quarry]

Eternal Super Shotgun is peak

[green estuary]

yeah, it is

but tda doesn't need the meathook

[wheat sigil]

meathook would not fit in tda

neither would dashes

[sudden stump]

We got shield bash already and you can use it with any weapon

[versed quarry]

Maybe in the DLC, because they said mobility would be important

[wheat sigil]

it's too peak though..

[green estuary]

it wouldn't even do much
because most of TDA's enemies are on around the same horizontal plane as you are, so the meathook would literally just be the shield bash but confined to a singular weapon

[hard thistle]

for me it feels like that meme of squidward looking out the window longingly because i cap my fps for headache reasons and that nerfs meathook hard

[wheat sigil]

nah it doesn't

meathook has virtually the same straight line pulling speed regardless of FPS, and using it for aerial stuff doesn't require any certain FPS either

it's only yeethooking which is affected, but that still works well

[hard thistle]

oh

well then its too slow and i dont like it

I THOUGHT I WAS THE PROBLEM

[versed quarry]

Me watching a speedrunner fly across half the map with the meat hook

[wheat sigil]

best mod in the game btw

[green estuary]

that's just inarguable atp

[wheat sigil]

it's mostly the vertical stuff that'd be very weird

[hard thistle]

if meathook were like 50% faster id actually use it but rn it just feels like im walking slowly towards my enemies with fly hacks on

[sudden stump]

Okay but what if the slayer could stand on his shield and then fly like a hoverboard?

[wheat sigil]

your base walking speed is ~9m/s, meathook is ~19m/s

[hard thistle]

i know its technically really fast but it just feels too slow to me yk?

[hard thistle]

my whole playthrough of tda i kept trying to meathook towards enemies i stuck my shield into

feels like something you could be able to do idk

probably because of those shield grapple points

[versed quarry]

Yeah

I think the shield grapple points look like Olivia Pierce honestly

The little statues

[wheat sigil]

lmao

[hard thistle]

those are statues?

[wheat sigil]

green goop statues

[hard thistle]

i thought they were like glowing green mold spots or something

[wheat sigil]

maybe the slayer just finds mold yummy

[hard thistle]

thats why his armour is green

to promote growth

[wheat sigil]

yum

[hard thistle]

i miss the climbing mechanics from eternal in this game

wish it wasnt automated

[versed quarry]

#screenshots message

[hard thistle]

i know it was like super divisive but i actually really liked the traversal in eternal

[hard thistle]

thats a vampire

[versed quarry]

Yeah the climbing in Eternal was way better

[spark elm]

Yay 100 armor

[wheat sigil]

idk i personally found the traversal in eternal boring

[spark elm]

(Remade playthrough)

[versed quarry]

The grapple point could be some form of Hell Growth

[wheat sigil]

just looking for secrets and such in tda is boringer tho

[hard thistle]

they're all just shield bash walls

[thin hound]

Yeah I think you need more patience

[spark elm]

And doors to unlock with keys, well it’s nearly the same as other games

[versed quarry]

Some of the cosmic realm secrets were cool

[hard thistle]

the cosmic realm made my head hurt

cant wait to go secret hunting there

[spark elm]

A nice secret armor encounter on city of ryuul

[thin hound]

That was cool, those secrets really set the tone of the Cosmic Realm and and cosmic horror

[hard thistle]

THAT ONE SECRET WITH THE LOOPING ROOMS WAS SICK

[wheat sigil]

what😭

[spark elm]

And the thing that turns when you put your shield on the timed blue thing

one of the coolest secrets in city of ryuul

[thin hound]

I mean the traversal and secrets of DOOM don’t take much time relative to the combat

And relative to other games

[wheat sigil]

yeah but that doesn't mean i'll suddenly find it fun if i get more patience...

[spark elm]

And once the one puzzle is solved with the cycling room you get a chest

[hard thistle]

i think its just that tda has just just such longer levels that theres a lot of looking around hoping you didnt miss a secret because if you do you'll have to do the level again

more of a time sink

[warm ibex]

I still don't necessarily understand why they haven't gone back and added light reinforcement spawns to previously completed areas

[thin hound]

You can back out to the menu as soon as you get the secret, there’s a very explicit map, and going back into the levels means more playing the game and having fun

[warm ibex]

even just imp stalkers and shield soldiers would be an improvement over spending ten minutes collecting secrets with zero combat

in my opinion, at least

[thin hound]

Yeah I wish there were more demons added everywhere in all chapters

But if every secret were really easy to find, there would be little replay value other than challenges

[hard thistle]

at least they actually put combat encounters in between arenas in this one

[thin hound]

I feel like they didn’t account for the BFC much when designing this game after Spire of Nerathul though, I feel like I never need to use it and do it much less than the last games

[warm ibex]

clearing all available combat areas and backtracking through empty rooms for secrets/resources is one of the worst parts of classic doom and it irks me that they did little to fix that when adapting the more open map format

[hard thistle]

i didnt use it at all past the little tutorial section where they scare you into using it with way too many enemies

[warm ibex]

I'm happy about that

[thin hound]

I want a few more encounters with a hundred demons at once

[warm ibex]

I don't like super weapons and was kinda glad that the BFC was more of a cool optional afterthought and not something they expect players to ever use

[hard thistle]

every doom ive played the bfg always felt like cheating because they dont actually make you use it

[hard thistle]

screen wipe button always feels like the easy way out and not the fun way

[warm ibex]

there's just nothing interesting about skipping the fighting in a game about fighting

[thin hound]

The BFC can kill a bunch of demons clustered together really easily, whereas in the last games the BFG would just clear out every demon other than a few super heavies in the arena, but there were more waves that spawn after. In this game, most of the encounter’s demons are already on the field when the battle starts

[sudden stump]

I wish we could lock the difficulty for a save slot. I know, "just have self discipline and don't adjust sliders" but maybe some people would appreciate the option and maybe more stakes when playing UN

[hard thistle]

unrelated but i feel a little misled by this games early marketing because i was expecting huge sprawling battlefields and demons with actual coordinated attack formations and a pseudo open world and what we got is just like slightly bigger maps and enemies you cant kill until you kill enough weaker guys

[thin hound]

Yeah I think the trailers promised bigger armies, and they’re not bad in game, but not as many demons as I’d imagined

But they do have attack formations, it’s just they don’t matter much at 120% game speed when you can jump over the shield soldiers or kill them all easily

[hard thistle]

all the collectibles are framed strangely open-world-ish too in the marketing

[crude sparrow]

only the last level left

if I dont die here I actually beat this UN run on my first attempt

[hard thistle]

holy shit

[crude sparrow]

the dreadmace also makes the enhanced azhrak fight so easy

[hard thistle]

yeah i noticed that today

[crude sparrow]

if only I knew that the first time I was playing UN

[hard thistle]

i havent read the lore yet but azhrak just has to have daddy issues right? he just kind of gives off those "demanding attention because dad never gave me any" vibes

[thin hound]

More like The Council issues

Daddy Belias

[crude sparrow]

that guy exists only to ragebait azhrak and the witch I swear xD

[thin hound]

Do we think he will be a threat in the DLC, or will the Slayer just kill him in the first cutscene?

[crude sparrow]

kinda like the first hell priest in eternal?

[hard thistle]

azhrak loses his shit just watching the slayer be cooler than him its not that hard

[thin hound]

Exactly

[crude sparrow]

ooh actually could be a cool callback

[versed quarry]

I mean, his death is literally invisible due to Davoth’s plan. So he technically was ignored in a way.

[crude sparrow]

make the cutscene resemble the one from eternal like they did when the slayer woke up in hell and the 2016 intro

like 1:1

[thin hound]

I know what you mean

[hard thistle]

that was actually so cool i was jumping up and down and waving my arms when i heard king noviks speech again

[thin hound]

You’re not a true DOOM fan if you weren’t smiling at that Harbor of Souls callback

[crude sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1454279970854670399/flat750x075f-pad750x1000f8f8f8.png?ex=69508344&is=694f31c4&hm=1070cb1a6b5a38c703ef2bb9fd84d5947d0fc4798150116a32b0f9d4bba7940f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=720&height=960 this was me xD

[sudden stump]

I was like "finally people will stop arguing about who the voice is supposed to be"

[thin hound]

Yeah that was actually a pretty big reveal, not sure if it means anything though

[crude sparrow]

are there actually people who didnt think that was novik?

[thin hound]

I didn’t know

[sudden stump]

Oh yeah, especially since at the start of 2016 it's very likely id didn't know who it was yet, people rode that out even after Eternal came out

[versed quarry]

No they have to make it like midway through the game like the 2016 intro in The Dark Ages was so that they’re both displaced

[crude sparrow]

okay back then sure but after eternal it was pretty obvious

[hard thistle]

befor tda i just kinda figured it was a non specific narator man

[crude sparrow]

really?

[thin hound]

The voice sounds different, but I guess it was because Novik was younger

[crude sparrow]

ALSO would be cool if we heard novik's speech from the end of eternal again

[thin hound]

Well we know that the Slayer will be entombed at the end almost certainly

[hard thistle]

idk i dont think it would hit the same without the game title being doom eternal

[crude sparrow]

doom eternal 2

id finally caved and made it

[thin hound]

That’s not how titles work

[versed quarry]

Electric boogaloo

[crude sparrow]

doom eternal 2 and it'd just be ultrakill xD

[hard thistle]

i just had a brain blast super idea

game where you play as the wretch conspiring with the slayer to get him out of hell

[thin hound]

Will we ever get to see flashbacks with Daisy, that’s the real question

[crude sparrow]

and make the gameplay just mighty doom 🗣️

[versed quarry]

Honestly they need to just re-release Mighty DOOM

[crude sparrow]

exactly just make an offline mode for it

[hard thistle]

it has to be footage of a real rabbit to contrast with the visuals of the game

[thin hound]

More importantly the soundtrack for Mighty DOOM

[warm ibex]

nah that's pointless

[versed quarry]

I will give my soul to ID if they do this

[hard thistle]

didnt that game like just come out like 2 years ago? what do you mean they already took it down

[versed quarry]

It’s been down for a while dude

[warm ibex]

Alpha Dog shut down in May of 2024, the game shut down in August 2024

full worldwide release lasted for just over a year

[hard thistle]

thats the problem with always online games, they always go under and the game dies

[crude sparrow]

thats why we need the stop killing games law to pass

[hard thistle]

the uk already blocked it i think

so worldwide adoption seems like a stretch

[crude sparrow]

the UK isnt a part of the EU so they can kinda do their own thing

[versed quarry]

Chugging hopium

[thin hound]

It sucks how temporary mobile games often are

[crude sparrow]

and america has it's own one but idk how that's going, havent really heard any updates about it since summer

[versed quarry]

I am, at least

[crude sparrow]

save some for half life 3

[hard thistle]

ngl every good development in tech ive heard in the past 10 years has been because the eu forced them to do it

[versed quarry]

As someone who lives in the US, we’re never gonna do that

We’re the leaders in doing the worst shit imaginable.

[thin hound]

Probably yeah

[hard thistle]

"no more computer! give it all to ai"

[versed quarry]

It’s all purpose, don’t worry.

[versed quarry]

I hate it here

[crude sparrow]

thankfully ASUS came in clutch to deliver us more RAM

[hard thistle]

i actually dont trust asus to make ram that works

ive used their laptops

[crude sparrow]

better than paying 300 dollars for 16gb right?

[hard thistle]

im expecting hardware to heavily stagnate in the next few years simply because upgrading will become so expensive even more people than usual will just not

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-astley-never-gonna-give-you-up-never-gonna-let-you-down-to-hurt-you-gif-5051155792447383820

[crude sparrow]

yeah but then dlss will be the only option which sometimes makes games look like blurry shit

[versed quarry]

Hardware stagnating means a bunch of other shit will follow suite

Which will be fun

[hard thistle]

simply dont ai upscale

[versed quarry]

Fuck DLSS

[hard thistle]

play that shit at 480p if you have to

[crude sparrow]

yeah and then I'll have 30 frames 😭

pick your poison

shit looking game or powerpoint slideshow

[versed quarry]

I pick 30FPS

[hard thistle]

I DONT AIUPSCALE, I DONT USE FRAMEGEN, I PLAY MY UNREAL 5 GAMES LIKE THEY ARE, SHIT

[crude sparrow]

not even dlss can save UE5

[hard thistle]

ive refunded games on steam just because i saw the unreal engine logo on launch

[crude sparrow]

reasonable

I remember getting excited about hearing that subnautica 2 would run on UE5, a couple years later I'm now worried

[hard thistle]

be more worried of whether that game even sees a public release

[crude sparrow]

hope they at least use that extra time they got to optimize it

[crude sparrow]

I think it'll release. I'm just hoping it'll actually be good like they were promising and not another below zero situation

[hard thistle]

i personally think if they ever release it will be closed beta for 5 years and then silence

[merry sapphire]

atp id jus be glad that the game releases

[merry sapphire]

i liked below zero

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-rick-roll-gif-gif-23727670

[crude sparrow]

below zero was fine but definitely not as good as the first game

[thin hound]

I was really excited for it this year, would’ve made 2025 even better for game releases

[empty furnace]

are most hp upgrades hidden?

[warm ibex]

I'd say there's a pretty good ratio of hidden to forced hp upgrades

[thin hound]

Leaders and morale encounters are honestly one of my favorite new additions

But it would be cool if the details on the leader demons glowed colors that corresponded to the heart/upgrade that they possess instead of always being the same

[elder raven]

i was just doing the double baron fight in reckoning and the final baron was about to be executed until a soldiers projectile went through the baron and killed me instantly

this game oh my god lol

[green estuary]

Are you feeling it?
Are you in the fun zone yet?

[elder raven]

it just happened again with an agaddon

[crude sparrow]

we love the fun zone

[obsidian shard]

fun zone more like zone

[crude sparrow]

yeah because the entire game is fun all the time 🗣️

(use that "scream if you like doom tda gif again)

[versed quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1450655116242849944/scream_if_you_love_3.gif

[crude sparrow]

YEEAAH

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-vs-kong-godzilla-kaiju-roar-roaring-gif-21390488

[thin hound]

[frail bloom]

Komodo locking tf in

[fading osprey]

-# subtle foreshadowing

wait

[elder raven]

another challenge run done

[crude sparrow]

holy shit I nearly died to the double barons in reckoning

[fading osprey]

Godzilla and mechagodzilla’s fight in gvk is LITERALLY Doomguy vs. Champion Komodo

[crude sparrow]

a random healthpack on the side saved me

[fading osprey]

except slayer’s in an Atlan

And Komodo is huge

[thin hound]

DLC has an Atlan vs. Komodo Titan boss fight

[frail bloom]

Ye brah he be ragdolling any beginner

It's unfair

[fading osprey]

when the pro isn’t locked in and loses to a person worse than them

[frail bloom]

Why did I say beginner

It's for everyone💀

[crude sparrow]

wooo I beat my second UN run

now what

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-cat-loud-angry-gif-26168455

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-rick-roll-gif-gif-23727670

Rick roll

[obsidian shard]

max slider un run!

[crude sparrow]

OH HELL NAH 😭

[obsidian shard]

You asked what and I'm giving it to you!

[crude sparrow]

oh well now I gotta do it

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[heady trout]

okay so im doing my first UN run and reached seige part 1, gonna rush for that chainshot

honestly im kind of upset at how forgiving the low heath near death thing is, like I've gotten super low heath 4 times already and made it through

like god forbid the game punish me for doing something wrong

[obsidian shard]

Theres a Slider for that

[crude sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1454315943122698293/image.png?ex=6950a4c4&is=694f5344&hm=39a92ddce809f25336b79c953cf316747e42130c7e7df1af184b924cf48ab222&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1546&height=856 chat help

I'm stuck inside a wall xD

open the window, slayer

[obsidian shard]

Low Poly Models goo brrr

[crude sparrow]

it doesnt let me shield bash any of them so I cant even leave

the cyberdemon can shoot me with his cannon but all the other ones can do is just stare

[heady trout]

oh my fucking god

the game glitched

it left me stuck with the shield parrying

why does this shit happen only in UN runs

i alt f4

to see if I can at least get another shot at the stage

[crude sparrow]

if you alt F4 you it'll just put you back to the beginning of the level

[heady trout]

oh thats just swell i lost all my progress on seige part 1, the arguably sloggiest level in the game

thanks besethda

[crude sparrow]

but that's not really playing UN then just pandemonium

with infinite lives xD

[heady trout]

yeah if its that simple

[crude sparrow]

but I understand maybe if you died to a glitch

[heady trout]

what the hells the point i can just cheese this

by alt f4 ing before I die

in case the going gets rough

[crude sparrow]

I mean you can just change the sliders to 1000% damage to demons and 50% damage to slayer and completely cheese the whole run and it'll give you the skin

[heady trout]

yeah wtf

this games weird

[crude sparrow]

but whats the fun in that

[hushed anchor]

[green estuary]

well yeah

but at least TDA makes you pay by starting from the beginning of the level if you try

[heady trout]

im just frustrated i lost my progress on seige part 1

cause of a glitch, couldnt they have done this on a shorter level

[green estuary]

well as I've said
it's a documented occurrence that doom games become sentient the moment you select ultra nightmare

[heady trout]

grr Hugo I will kill you...

[green estuary]

my first UN run I was on the last fight before Kreed in resurrection and I completely lost my shield

no block, no shield bash, nothing

[crude sparrow]

I was reading chat and not paying attention and got jumped by 3 barons

[fleet spruce]

Entombed, literally

[warm ibex]

glitches that haven't been in the game since the alpha testing phase start magically materializing the second I select UN

[green estuary]

excluding my 3 UN runs, TDA has been by far the least buggy doom game for me
but those three runs had probably 3x more bugs than all the other times I've played the game combined

it's actually wild

[warm ibex]

during my pandemonium run I completely lost the ability to melee after picking up the flail. couldn't glory strike or basic melee, couldn't switch back to the gauntlet, nothing. magically fixed itself after the second checkpoint

have never had that happen before or after

[green estuary]

the game is sentient, I'm telling you

each copy has a fragment of Hugo's consciousness embedded in it

[crude sparrow]

secret ragebait mechanic

[fleet spruce]

it's just VEGA scattered across each copy

[versed quarry]

We're not gonna be able to run him once he's fully assembled though because of RAM prices.

[fleet spruce]

true, prices in general are atrocious

[crude sparrow]

dw hayden is rich

[fleet spruce]

so much so I'll settle on getting a eGPU dock for my ROG Ally X so i won't really need to upgrade

[crude sparrow]

I swear battle knights sometimes hit you through the shield

the groundpound attack

I parry it and I still get hit

[fleet spruce]

Happen to me quite a few times as well

[heady trout]

bro why is ULTRA NIGHTMARE with the easiest version of this slider

okay you know what fuck it im staying with it, getting my gold skin and moving on bc if thats what they think a challenge is idc anymore

truthfully its probably my Eternal UN ptsd acting up, wondering why it doesnt feel like extruciating torture to do this

rather than torture, nerve wrecking

[green estuary]

Eternal’s is actually far more lenient
TDA just feels similar because the shield exists as a second health bar of sorts

But as a whole, TDA nightmare default sliders are too easy

You are correct

[heady trout]

ill just do the challenge run as they intended and after that do more fun stuff

[crude sparrow]

ripatorium

also what % speed do you play on

[heady trout]

okay so seige part 1 is done

[heady trout]

i dont renember, I think I usually play on 120%

after i finish UN Ill mess around with shorter parry windows and faster speeds

i already normally play with hard version of low health settings

idk who thought UN should not have that version enabled but whatever

[green estuary]

the brink of death setting was introduced in update 3

so it couldn't really be applied to default UN

[heady trout]

oh wow i really died in the last seige part 2 arena huh

okay yeah fuck this im not doing UN if its just boring

im just gonna play the game with higher sliders

if the reward is so cheesable whats the point genuienly

[green estuary]

the reward has always been cheesable lmao

there are so many ways to cheat 2016/eternal/TDA ultra nightmare runs it's not even funny

[heady trout]

tbh this time its ESPECIALLY cheesable

[green estuary]

the whole reward is the sense of accomplishment

[heady trout]

well i wont really feel that accomplished this time around unlike Eternal with the settings they present

[green estuary]

I mean you can equip saving throw in eternal starting in exultia, and if you really wanted to you can alt-f4 every time it gets used up

and voila, it's impossible to die

[heady trout]

not to mention this game is like way longer than Eternal

and you spend far more time looking for secrets

TLDR its way more sloggish, even if its good

[green estuary]

just do 300% damage and min parry UN or something

[heady trout]

feels way less 'fun' to try for UN

also like lol I dont have that much time on my hands or patience these days like I did for Eternal

i was doing this as a ''one shot'' thing i probably wont try again in a while

[green estuary]

if you're talking about fun UN runs, we cannot be talking about eternal or 2016 here

[heady trout]

rather than fun

id call Eternals more fullfilling

[green estuary]

95% of the experience there is just getting screwed over in the first 4 levels over and over again

[heady trout]

its mostly about pacing though, replaying Dark Ages feels way longer than Eternal

[green estuary]

well tda is longer than eternal

[heady trout]

and i could do UN Eternal practice way more bc well its pretty short

[green estuary]

and exploration actually affects your upgrade progression, unlike eternal where you got it through combat

[heady trout]

this game requires more time and if you fail its all over again, so yeah for now ill skip the UN run

[heady trout]

yeah thats why I cant exactly ignore exploration which takes a while

dont get me wrong this game is still fire

but Im not feeling a UN run rn, and probably not in a while

too long

[obsidian shard]

in return you get triple the skins

[green estuary]

everyone's got their own preferences
personally I found it much more enjoyable to run UN for tda, simply because you would actually get a decent bit into the campaign before dying

[heady trout]

anyhow ill play with 130 speed and two bars for the parry window and ofc hard brink of death

[green estuary]

instead of the same ridiculously unbalanced cultist base level

[heady trout]

probably mess around in the last three levels bc those levels were designed with max Slayer in mind

[green estuary]

if you're on pc you should try randomizer

[heady trout]

true

idk how to install that doe

[green estuary]

nexus mods

the mod in question is called kaibz mod

[heady trout]

oh yeah also higher enemy projectile speed

[green estuary]

the projectile speed options make way too big jumps tbh

you go from 100% speed to 150%, and max projectile speed is 200%

which is the most unbalanced nonsense ever

150% is already on the brink of some projectiles not being dodge-able

but max projectile speed is just a crapshoot

[obsidian shard]

can we not talk about the definition of torture

THOSE FIRST MANCUBI

[green estuary]

eternal and 2016 UN honestly can smd for all I care

they could've given you an extra sentinel crystal before cultist base instead of giving you two of them before SGN, but nooooo

we're going to make this level and spam mancubi that deal 80 damage per fireball, put traps literally everywhere to make you lose your stack, but nah, you're just gonna have to survive with just 125 health

and then of course once you grind your way past that stuff, we'll just toss a bug at you that instantly ends your run!

[heady trout]

oh okay ill lower it then

i want a challenge but not bs

[green estuary]

second to highest projectile speed is doable

I just wish the options were more granular

300% damage is a much better time than increased projectile speed though

[heady trout]

okay yeah i lasted a bit in ressurection

but yeah this shit tough

ill get the hang of it eventually doe

im not sure if i want to always play the game on 150% speed but well

maybe once I get the hang of it i wont be able to let go

[crude sparrow]

tbh I beat both TDA's and eternal's UN by replaying the levels over and over on a separate nightmare save to genuinely master them before I attempted them on Un

[heady trout]

actually 130% speed

[crude sparrow]

only this time I just went all in on UN since I already beat it once

and actually beat it first try

[heady trout]

see this is what I did with Eternal, the difference is TDAs campaing is just too long and mostly boring for me to dedicate so much time into it

the early levels are fine but honestly just so boring at times

i could make it harded with the modifiers

but truthfully id rather just play levels individually than do that

[crude sparrow]

gotta have patience

[heady trout]

gotta have things to do in my life other than play videogames

sometimes id rather not play for so long, much less die and be forced to waste all that time again

[crude sparrow]

I mean just do like one level a day or something

[heady trout]

simply put, this is not fun for me

[crude sparrow]

with the amount of time you spend practicing for the eventual UN attempt that's kinda adequate

[heady trout]

Eternal wasnt a joyride either but due to the games pace and lenght it didnt feel as much of a slog as TDA

[crude sparrow]

if you only want combat then you can play in the ripatorium

lots of sick presets made by the community already

[heady trout]

true

i do like playing the last three levels doe

they feel designed for max Slayer and theres boss fights in them

[crude sparrow]

I've not touched the campaign in months since that shit came out, only now I've returned for the UN run

[heady trout]

a boss rush mode for this game would be interesting

but well idk whats defined as boss in this game

leaders? Some are way easier than others. Champions? The Komodo Champion I can kill so easily in the bfc level its not even funny

[crude sparrow]

I feel like only the champions and then enhanced azhrak, azhrak and witch

[heady trout]

what about kreed makyr and the old one

[crude sparrow]

oh yeah those

forgot about them for a sec xD

I'm tired

[heady trout]

it would definetly be akward to throw an Atlan boss after so much normal gameplay

[subtle depot]

1072674803116417154

[crude sparrow]

you could just skip it

[heady trout]

yeah

[crude sparrow]

I like the atlan sections, though I'm glad they dont last too long

[rose cargo]

eternal was fun the first time the second time it wasn’t, played console and pc and i don’t think I wanna play it again, i might try to get doom 2016 and replay it also