the-dark-ages

[echo sail]

i have a question

is azhraks first attack programmed to hit u

i cant seem to dodge his first attack even after practicing like 10 times

[wheat sigil]

super busted lol

the engaging and threatening cyberdemon is parry->rocket, repeat

[echo sail]

cyberdemon doesnt throw parryable projectiles

[wheat sigil]

every single close range attack is parryable tho

[echo sail]

they dont charge up ur rocket

you need a hell surge attack for it

[wheat sigil]

well dam now i'm scared for how powerful the charged rockets are😭 cyberdemons still die really quivkly from that

[topaz oasis]

Why are you shooting at the tyrant

Just punch him, much easier

[torpid lynx]

ong

[torpid lynx]

or use BFC

[wheat sigil]

yes the flail will kill him ez

[topaz oasis]

We do not mention THAT weapon in this chat

[torpid lynx]

[echo sail]

best way to kill a cyberdemon is power gauntlets

cyberdemons r no longer a threat tbh

[wheat sigil]

best way to kill cyberdemons is pb+rocket.. wait no, impaler+rocket

[topaz oasis]

LOL, im not joking tho, I always kill tyrants by hitting them with a 4-piece combo from fist and 2 seconds worth of shooting with the pulverizer

4 piece fist combo does like 90% of their health in one go

[echo sail]

cyberdemons r replaced by komodo champs

[wheat sigil]

demons got some permanent fragile debuff or sum in this game😭

[echo sail]

cause theyre in greater quantity here

[topaz oasis]

Demons die faster but they also kill you much faster in dark ages

[wheat sigil]

they really aren't though

[echo sail]

wait for the dlc

[wheat sigil]

eternal's dlc also got more demons than base game...

[wheat sigil]

yes the tank and stand and fight gameplay

[topaz oasis]

Although im not sure about demons being less fragile in eternal

[echo sail]

the heavies in eternal appear in wave tbh

[wheat sigil]

enemies also come in waves here

[echo sail]

unlike tda where 3-4 heavies appear together

[wheat sigil]

and as soon as there's a super heavy here it's basically alone

and you'll never see 2 of them at once

[echo sail]

im pretty sure theres only 2 places in the base game with more than one super heavy

[topaz oasis]

There are a lot of demons that die by just looking at them in eternal as well

Also in eternal you have energy shield and lock-on burst which are absolute haram

[echo sail]

lock on has weird ai tbh sometimes it targets the enemy behind the super heavies

[wheat sigil]

one of many reasons you should use remote det🗣️

[topaz oasis]

Your first mistake there was attempting to use lock-on on a super heavy, they are resistant to it, unless it is an archie, you should go for other weapons against them

[echo sail]

lock on spam easily takes care of barons n tyrants

[hearty edge]

i remember some more

[echo sail]

one in urdak and one in final sin

[hearty edge]

ah i thought you were talking about tda

yea in eternal base game there are basically none

[wheat sigil]

definitely not uncommon in eternal😭

anyways, since they doubled entity cap, i kinda thought they would use it

[echo sail]

not talking about tag and master levels

[wheat sigil]

i know

[echo sail]

and also arc complex slayer gate

3 in total

[hearty edge]

i'd agree

[echo sail]

whereas most leader fights have 3-4 super heavies

[hearty edge]

you do dummy damage but they also do dummy damage to you

[echo sail]

dont forget the fucking imps,they took inspiration from d2016

[topaz oasis]

Yeah, dumping all of your rockets on a tyrant or baron specifically is a waste, I'd recommend going for just one normal rocket, then throw a grenade and do full auto or SSG+Ballista combo, much more effective

[wheat sigil]

kinda pointless to use lobs on tyrants as they aren't particularly threatening

[hearty edge]

and the soldiers do like 70 damage r sum

[echo sail]

ammo in that game is super easy to get whyre u concerned abt rocket ammo

[wheat sigil]

but if you mod swap cancel out of a lock-on burst, you can turn up to 2 rockets into normal rockets, making them deal normal damage

[echo sail]

tbh true i mainly used lob in mars core n taras nabad for tyrants

[wheat sigil]

because one single lock-on burst takes 3 rocket ammo, which is half of what you gain per chainsaw😭 and optimizing ammo spending is also good to do

[hearty edge]

i'd say the barons are a bit more reasonable but for the tyrants just use pb rocket

they don't even move that much anyway

[wheat sigil]

no don't just use pb rocket...

[echo sail]

its hard to aim during an intense fight

[wheat sigil]

ya?

[echo sail]

and pb ballista and lob have hit scan

[topaz oasis]

Excuses!

[echo sail]

tbh i cant aim while im focusing down a tyrant,a baron below me n locked on by the doom hunter

[topaz oasis]

Because that's ammo you should be using to dispatch enemies that are a lot more vulnerable to it

[wheat sigil]

no enemies are really vulnerable to rocket ammo tho

[wheat sigil]

aim training

[echo sail]

not really,most heavies die to the same amt of pb ssg or pb ballista so lob is usefull for super heavies

[wheat sigil]

pls just don't use it for the doom hunter's first phase lol

[topaz oasis]

Any enemy that is not a tyrant or baron is vulnerable to lock-on

[wheat sigil]

doom hunter's taking 0 damage from it in their first phase:

[wheat sigil]

you still need to aim for pb+ballista, and pb+ballista isn't a particularly good combo

[topaz oasis]

Maybe include marauder on that list, but sometimes when you lock onto a marauder and then aim to the ceiling, the rockets hit him on his back and he gets stunned loooool

[wheat sigil]

you can do that consistently if you mod swap cancel out of the lock-on into something and shoot him

since he'll be aiming for the rockets, then he gets faltered and hit by all the rockets

you don't need to mod swap cancel in all situations, but it makes it way easier

[topaz oasis]

Wait, is this a thing? got a video showcasing how it looks?

[echo sail]

mlob

[topaz oasis]

Sounds like you need to spend more time im the MLs fam

[echo sail]

ive already beaten all mls

[topaz oasis]

Yooo

Why did you remove the video m1

[wheat sigil]

ya (oops wrong clip earlier lmao)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmAT3aAONIA

[wheat sigil]

hop on the custom mls

[echo sail]

hmm

im pretty sure u cant possibly make a harder arena than the double locked archviles buffing everything

[wheat sigil]

weelll...

if you do some of the harder custom mls, the easiest rooms will be harder than that

[topaz oasis]

I cant see the lock-on mod swap thing on any of those

[wheat sigil]

mod swap cancel, it's when you press mod swap and then immediately the bind of another weapon

it allows you to cancel the bring-down animation of certain things

useful for going out of the lock-on burst and ballista

and there isn't actually any true mod swapping, hence the name mod swap cancel

[wheat sigil]

and the hardest rooms are just... idek how to describe lmao

it's incommensurable even to the double archvile room

[half marlin]

these master levels in particular:
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1286
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1121

[wheat sigil]

the delta one isn't close to the hardest

and even the unbalanced cbt atlantica map isn't the hardest anymore

[topaz oasis]

your nerdy M&K tech nonsense is too COMPLICATED for me, I'll just use energy shield instead https://imgur.com/a/3g52C7h

[wheat sigil]

bulldozer tech btw...

mod swap cancel tech is simpler

[topaz oasis]

I'm gonna let you in on a secret

I don't even have a mod swap button in my eternal's control layout

[half marlin]

what's the hardest then

tormented earth?? (haven't played and never will)

or slaughter maps 💀

[wheat sigil]

lmfso😭 why nott

[wheat sigil]

ya, or unholy urdak (only on mod injector)

[half marlin]

yea true

[topaz oasis]

the path of a doom console/controller player is cruel and arduous

[wheat sigil]

i mean.. the challenger series #01 is stupidly hard

way harder than any other arena, and takes like 10 min, but it's not more than that

[wheat sigil]

lmao

.. but mods swaps thoo🥺

[topaz oasis]

Swapping mods isnt necessary

Only time I ever swap mods is to swap lock-on and full auto for remote det and sticky bombs to fight dual marauders in the master levels

And you can do that by pausing the game and going to the weapon tab anyway

[jagged nymph]

can someone help me please? in map i have disgusting pixels instead of markers, how to fix this

[merry sapphire]

you should try being nice to them First before Calling them Disgusting

[jagged nymph]

now please, answer seriously

[calm hare]

how to start a ripatorium match? I don't see an option to start here: #screenshots message

[mental grotto]

You need to tell them very politely that they’re beautiful in their own way, and that you understand their struggles, but you would really appreciate them if they left for the time being. They have very low self esteem so you need to make sure to be as polite and supportive as possible. Hope this helps 👍

[jagged nymph]

Not funny

[frail bloom]

No you do, double barons, agaddon and cybie, komodo and cybie, all in resurrection, and 3 cybies in harbor of souls if you go by the secret. You can have more heavies but I guess they underestimated our capabilities after like 3 months so I'd expect more usage of them at once, alongside more heavies in general

[jagged nymph]

how to fix map, there is instead normal markers, pixels

[leaden stone]

I don't reckon you're gonna get the help here, best to contact Bethesda Support

or find out if anyone on Reddit has the same issue. Best to google the issue and see if anyones in the same boat

[frail bloom]

Trav guy review when

I'm kidding

[burnt finch]

I finally beat ultra nightmare

[upbeat junco]

hell yeah

[jagged nymph]

Ok, thanks

[alpine pilot]

where

[silent surge]

good ol ripatorium

[exotic jetty]

Ripatorium fun:)

[pallid compass]

I can't get Ripatorium skin, is there a known bug about it? I've beaten all 3 levels with multiple different amounts of demons and difficulty settings many times. Saw someone say in here "it's easiest skin to acquire, just do 1 demon per map and that's it", I tried that as well, still no purply doom guy 🙁

worse, for wtvr stupid reason, the help page for bethesda has error loading so you guys are my only outlet to ask this to.... fuuuuuuhhhhhh

[wintry nexus]

Hi guys

Haven’t talk here a while

Ok so when I come here everyone’s silent all of a sudden

[hearty edge]

why do i always get the reverse of these bugs

i only tried the ripartorium once and got it

then when the berserker acheivement was supposedly broken and wasnt being given to people i got it before getting all the upgrades

[pallid compass]

Can we switch? Lol. I'd like the reverse bug

[pallid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-lost-where-now-gif-14284660

[hard thistle]

is this the easiest difficulty

[topaz oasis]

take I guess

oh man, finished the SC & Flail only run on Nightmare with damage to demons on 50%

what a fun run that was, I'd recommend anyone who enjoys a challenge to try it out

not for the faint of heart tho

[long heath]

Bruh wtf, I go through all of ultra nightmare in one sitting to the belly of the beast only to die to the first arena

Im about to bring the most legendary crashout of all of history

[topaz oasis]

hey, no shame on dying on belly of the beast

that's the hardest mission in the game

that fucking acid everywhere man

[long heath]

the acid fucking sucks man

i wish cthulhu took care of his fucking belly better

[frail bloom]

Ye idk what he ate like cosmic laxatives or smt

His guts are non existent

[topaz oasis]

also that first arena on belly of the beast is cheese, 2 buffers heavily guarded by possessed demons, then after you kill the buffers there is a Baron, Caco and Leader Acolyte all at the same time

and once you kill the baron, 2 battle knights that respawn indefinitely until you kill the acolyte

that shit is rough

gotta play it super lame on that one and run like crazy

[long heath]

the first arena is hell, thtas where i died on

cthulhus belly is the real hell

[topaz oasis]

yeeh

[long heath]

i have the whole death scene reconstructed in my head

i forget to parry the attack of a whiplash, i get fireballed from a mancubus i go around trying to find health pickups, as i pick them up the cosmic baron spawns in, breaks my shield and kills me with the next projectile

[topaz oasis]

oh yeah, there are whiplashes too

what scares me the most is at the beginning, trying to kill the buffer mancubus with the possessed revenant around

I just step back and dump all of my impaler and cycler ammo to kill the revenant, then I go in for the manky

[long heath]

whiplashes are a nightmare to kill but at least they die really quickly

and you can lock em in with a shield throw

[surreal mango]

Check the group pls bro

[static harness]

Hi

[frail bloom]

Hello

[unkempt dragon]

hey

[runic moth]

hi

[novel echo]

@spiral dust Boa noite capitão🫡

[solar cairn]

The new stream will be a teaser for the October patch

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[warm ibex]

don't give yourself false hope

you'll be disappointed

[meager vortex]

how do you know?

[daring osprey]

Just got the platinum

Sheesh

[long heath]

i will work for the platinum after i finish ultra nightmare

[solar spoke]

Ricochet on the revenant applied to that mancubus does wonders. I couldn't believe the amount of damage I did to it and the ones around it even when buffed

[heady mica]

Reached chapter 21 on my UN run and got that atlan softlock thing the second i hit play

Nuclear grade crashout

[solar spoke]

I think I know what you mean, Is that the issue where you can't interact with the hell barge after dropping the gun?

[heady mica]

Naw I finished all that, got to the final battle (with robo-cthulhu) and got this bug that people say happens when you're cheesing the run

I literally started the level up for the first time and it just spawns me boots on the ground with my SSG

[solar spoke]

Oh year, I think I've done that. I think blasting him with the shoulder cannons while he's in the air makes him invincible for some reason. Is that what happened?

either way, that would suck to have to put up with on UN

[heady mica]

No, when I started the level itself for the first time, meaning from the menu, I load in with no cutscene and I'm on the ground in an Atlan based level and can't progress

I'm softlocked

[solar spoke]

Yep, that's way worse. That's a painful way to lose a UN run

[heady mica]

It's worse when you realize I spent all that time in my run getting most, if not all, the secrets in each level for the very first time without using a guide

It took me about 25-30 hours to get there because I took my sweet ol' time

💔

[solar spoke]

I couldn't cope with that, I'd be like "I'm done" and give up on gaming for a while if that happened to me

[heady mica]

I absolutely did give up on it for now and I'm half tempted to just up all the modifiers to make it as easy and quick as possible to just blitz through the game for gold skins and turn them back off for the last 2 chapters

but i dont because i dont want to be called a clown

[solar spoke]

I get it, I did my UN playthrough with all of the sliders on standard nightmare settings (except parry, I turned that down lol). I died like 3 times before finishing it. A legitimate death I can take but if something like a soft lock happened to me that far in I'd lose my mind

[delicate grotto]

Have you tried closing the game and reloading into the level? I assume so, but just thought I’d ask. Could fix it.
Personally I wouldn’t blame you for lowering the sliders until you reach that point in game again to continue your UN run. I think most here would agree that’s valid.

I crashed on that same level for my UN run, during Enhanced Azhrak’s last phase, and it restarted my progress all the way to the beginning of the level. I lowered the sliders all the way until I got back to that boss fight, I feel no shame
That’s on the game, not me or my skills.

[green estuary]

Yeah if you made it all that way and got soft locked, lowering the sliders is 100% valid

If it were me I’d just crash tf out though lmao

[heady mica]

oh believe me i did. twice.

First time was when it initially happened, second time was the next day when I tried opening it hoping it fixed itself

[heady mica]

I wanted the bragging rights for a vanilla UN run but alas I will have to do it all over again when I have more free time 💔

[delicate grotto]

Shit sucks for sure , sorry that happened man.

[heady mica]

im gonna leave that save there for now, and hopefully it gets patched

reading for potential fixes only showed "its a feature to prevent you from savescumming, it was in eternal at some bosses" meanwhile i didnt savescum nor have i even played the level yet (at least on that run)

[delicate grotto]

It’s not a feature, it’s a bug lol. Idk why that theory gets thrown around so much. This has happened to people on non-UN runs.

It has something to do with the way the level loads.

[fair elk]

Hi All, anybody experiencing a bug where they're playing a campaign level on TDA, but when you die, it goes through the Ripatorium load screens i.e. it tells you purification failed, enemies killed, time settings, encounter settings etc. Even if you pause it's like you can change the music during the campaign?

Or is this purposely built in for completed campaign saves?

[long heath]

and now people complain the dark ages is too hard, great

[green estuary]

First rule of the internet
Most people just like to whine

[frail bloom]

Wdym

Still pretty manageable

I might die like 3 times on a bad day

[long heath]

i was watching one of midnights videos on TDA and on one of the first comments I see complains about the shield breaking too fast on nightmare, as if turning down the difficulty wasnt an option

[frail bloom]

Well it's just one guy who doesn't understand how to manage his shield actions

Same with ppl who don't understand chainsaw in eternal

[long heath]

this is equivelant to the doom 2016 glazers that try to spam ssg all in doom eternal not realizing they have the chainsaw there, they come out and complain the game is too hard game journalist style

[frail bloom]

Hmm well ye if some ppl prefer to use only one gun all power to them, but the community still hasn't figured out how to disclaim that they're just saying their preferences and not objective fact

You have eternal fans who don't u derstand dark ages and 2016 fans who don't understand eternal

The REAL dubs is the fact that whatever you want to play a game is ready for you

Or if you're really happy you can play all three

Someone called this line of thinking corpo jargon

So you can't please everyone

[wintry nexus]

Steel beyond the grave is such a cool track

[remote canopy]

Accelerator is so busted bro

[solar spoke]

I just don't get it, that's the whole point of sliders. I don't get why people are complaing about the difficulty of the game when it's the easiest thing to tweak in settings

[remote canopy]

I was using it against enhanced azhrak and each phase took like 1 minute

[frail bloom]

Eh, glad you enjoyed it tho

Guys when is the travguy review I'm starving

[remote canopy]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but was accelerator buffed?

[frail bloom]

No

[remote canopy]

Like I'm pretty sure it used to hold lower ammo

[wintry nexus]

Eh?

[frail bloom]

Ye like I don't like it that much

[wintry nexus]

I thought you were better than this Samir😞

[frail bloom]

Wdym I ain't gonna like all doom tracks

For example, Metal Hell is lame

[wintry nexus]

I was kidding

[frail bloom]

Just saying

[wintry nexus]

What’s your fav track

[frail bloom]

Oh boi

[wintry nexus]

I’m curious

[runic moth]

Hi

[wintry nexus]

Hello

[remote canopy]

Fav track literally depends

[frail bloom]

Unholy siege or From the Ashes

It changes each month

[remote canopy]

Into the void is great aswell,it fits the theme well

[wintry nexus]

I wish the rest of the song for from the ashes was better tbh

[frail bloom]

Ye no debate abt that

I love the dinoheretic remix

It mixes he is out there and from the ashes

[wintry nexus]

YES

[remote canopy]

Also what's y'all favourite weapon

[frail bloom]

Ye genuine goosebumps

[wintry nexus]

Hmm ssg or impaler

Bland i know

[frail bloom]

Csg

No idea why

[wintry nexus]

Combat shotgun?

[frail bloom]

Yes

I just like triple boom

[remote canopy]

I tried the accelerator after sleeping on it and I was so surprised

[frail bloom]

Don't sleep on any gun here

[remote canopy]

Except the pulverizer

[frail bloom]

Except maaaaayybe pulverizer

[remote canopy]

And flail

[frail bloom]

Yup.

Josh if you're reading this, buff the flail

And do smt with the pulverizer in dlc

Like tell Hugo

Thanks

Guys he'll see it trust

[remote canopy]

They gonna add a enemy that can only be killed by pulverizer and flail

[frail bloom]

Nope

[remote canopy]

And ravager for some reason won't do something

[frail bloom]

F that

Smt more subtle

[remote canopy]

How does full auto kill stone imps but not ssg (easily)

[frail bloom]

Like certain situations where you use it

Ye this ain't that type of game

Man and next week there's no stream too

I'm starving

[green estuary]

We joke but if this was eternal it’s exactly what they would do
Instead of buffing the weapon they’d just add an enemy that could only be countered by said weapon

[jagged nymph]

i still cant find any way to fix pixelated map...

[frail bloom]

Did you submit a ticket at bethesda.net

If you did, do it again

And say it didn't work

[green estuary]

Better question is how does full auto kill stone imps but combat shotgun’s primary fire doesn’t
Because full auto literally just uses the normal shotgun’s damage decl

Meaning they’re exactly the same

[frail bloom]

Bc hugo said so

[uneven mortar]

In-universe it's because the rhythm of the full auto makes special vibrations that breaks their shell

[jagged nymph]

What if stone imps have just extra durable skin which recovers very quickly?

[frail bloom]

But not the chaingun huh

[uneven mortar]

That'd be too easy ig

[green estuary]

They stagger with a single full auto shell

[jagged nymph]

This is for balance

[frail bloom]

Ye demons it's unfair

Grrrr unfair

[jagged nymph]

I think you would be angry if 1 imp would eat half of your ammo

[green estuary]

You know what would have been better for balance?
Just buffing the full auto mod

[frail bloom]

Jokes

Hugo has spoken

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2016-giga-chad-gif-8667813971741982445

[uneven mortar]

Is that hugo on joe rogan lmfao

[frail bloom]

Yup

[green estuary]

Yes

[uneven mortar]

Doom the antiwoke ages

[frail bloom]

It was back in eternal

And joe said the music sounded bad

[uneven mortar]

😭 😭 😭

[frail bloom]

Ugh

[green estuary]

Joe was letting his boomer flag fly

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-walker-gif-4456070846517955697

[remote canopy]

Im pretty sure they stagger from one full auto shell but not one shotgun shell

[frail bloom]

I want them to make a scary demon

[long heath]

That is such an amazing track

i keep it right behind Theomachy/What lies below

[frail bloom]

Make smt scary

[long heath]

doom 3 hell knight

[frail bloom]

No

Scarier

Like uncanny

We have no uncanny demons

[remote canopy]

Just bring a character from resident evil

[frail bloom]

Scarier

[remote canopy]

Make his intestines exposed

[frail bloom]

I found this in the concept arts, credit to hato

#screenshots message

Looks like a titan

[remote canopy]

What if we make a revenant,but instead of all skeleton he would be all internal organs

[frail bloom]

From that show

[long heath]

intestines spilling out of the belly, burnt meat and straps of flesh in a cage like fashion on the face, idk

[remote canopy]

And we would just remove those internals on a glory kill

[long heath]

my main answer to scary things is just add a bunch of gore

[remote canopy]

Real

[frail bloom]

No big scary smile with few strands of hair scares me more

[remote canopy]

Tbh how do you make demons scary without making doom a horror game

[frail bloom]

Lets mix the two

[long heath]

tear out the intestines, use them as a whip and whack so hard that the demon is decapitated

[frail bloom]

Make it really huge

[remote canopy]

Main reason why silent hill feels scary is because of the atmosphere and not the scary demons

[long heath]

tear out the heart but its still plugged in the body, shove the hand down the mouth, pull out the spine and rip it out as it stabs trough the exposed heart idfk i could have worded it better

[remote canopy]

As the doomslayer,it just wouldn't make sense

[frail bloom]

No but it would be cool to have a demon the player is scared of and has to confront

[long heath]

rip out the spine and whack it a few times

idk i have a lot of glorykill ideas

[remote canopy]

What about we have a demon section (where the slayer controls a demon)and other demons can easily kill you and u can't fight back

[solar spoke]

just introduce him to Don Mattrick or something lol

[frail bloom]

Make it twitch and be unpredictable

Did y'all see what I sent

[long heath]

i do have a couple of custom demon ideas

[frail bloom]

Lol

[long heath]

as well as a lot of cosmic realm demon ideas

[frail bloom]

I have some aswell

[long heath]

i was kind of dissapointed with the fact there were only 29 demon types in tda

its a lot but its just not enough for 22 levels

[frail bloom]

I know

And some are on mech levels or smt

Not as much on ground

[long heath]

i wish we got more cosmic realm variants of demons

[remote canopy]

Mech levels are just there for relaxing

[long heath]

a cosmic mancubus that vomits out the same acid all over the place in belly of the beast

[remote canopy]

You can nearly permanently stagger cthulu

Unless he flies away

[shadow flame]

do you get the pandemonium skin if you beat UN

[remote canopy]

In the air

[long heath]

ive died on them a lot of times

they have become harder recently i think

my recent nightmare run had me getting oneshot by the shield dudes

[frail bloom]

I drew a couple of demon concepts

Like abt 30 smt

[long heath]

i had an idea for a more organic carcass that conjures shields from flesh

[frail bloom]

Idk what to share tho

[long heath]

not plasma

[frail bloom]

I'll start with smt and work my way up

[long heath]

and it summons tentacles too

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message

This is the maggot, pretty subtle

[long heath]

it looks appropriately disturbing

[frail bloom]

Yup and it gets scarier from here

Or "intimidating"

[long heath]

i also had an idea for a demon that has no legs and moves around with fans instead of legs

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message

This is the caco

I'm just sending the most disturbing one's I drew

[long heath]

the way youll fight it is that if you get too close he will shove his fans on you and take a bunch of your health, so you have to stay away from him and kill him long range

[frail bloom]

Fans?

[long heath]

that looks insane

[frail bloom]

He's like a drone?

[long heath]

yeah

[frail bloom]

Ye it gets crazier

[frail bloom]

Ye a drone demon would be cool

#screenshots message

Pain elemental

[long heath]

i originally had a speculative theory that the cacodemons were actually closey related to the cyclops titan due to their one eye

and i have also been working on a doom Alternate universe for myself

[long heath]

the green looks a bit awkward but it looks cool

[frail bloom]

I drew a bunxh of demon concepts for a slayers testaments game which is why they're all mangled and gross and intimidating

[long heath]

oh my god the slayer testaments also had a green asthetic to them so the green actually fits in the pain elemental

[frail bloom]

Ye that was what I was thinking

[long heath]

a slayer testament game would be nice

i might expand upon them on my own rewrite

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message

[long heath]

thats a cyberdemon in screenshots right?

[frail bloom]

Bruiser

From doom 3

[long heath]

oh

that looks cool

[frail bloom]

Ye instead of the tv, he naturally has a eye in his mouth head

Alr here come's my two favs

[merry sapphire]

funny how that was supposed to be dark ages

[warm ibex]

Sentinel scholars also had that theory "Hunters of the Sloughlands, the Cacodemon lurks the bottomless and murky depths of Hell in search of easy prey. An aimless wanderer, the Cacodemon is mostly devoid of cognitive ability, sensory awareness, and otherwise commonly occurring impulses. Driven only by a singular desire to feed, the Cacodemon is likely to appear wherever there is flesh to be consumed, bringing with it an insatiable propensity for hunger. It is said that the Cacodemon bears some resemblance to the cycloptic titans of ancient Hell lore, leading Sentinel scholars to believe that the forgotten titans may yet live on in some disembodied form."

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message
@long heath

[warm ibex]

funny how that is dark ages

[frail bloom]

Not really, how you gonna fit eons in one game

Plus, it already has some of them

[long heath]

oh wait nvm

[merry sapphire]

wasn't this a refrence to the cacodemon's actual design origin

[warm ibex]

yeah

[merry sapphire]

that it came from a dnd monster some friends drew up

[merry sapphire]

nope it leads UP to the slayer testaments

we dont see the wretch

[long heath]

like the part in the testament that said he =scoured across the umbral plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords? could the forsaken plains really be the umbral plains?

[merry sapphire]

and we dont get sealed

[frail bloom]

In the first age, in the first battle

Infact we already played that in doom 1

[warm ibex]

nope! Slayers Testaments cover a very wide range of events, even including his Divinity Machine transformation

[frail bloom]

Well the dlc most likely will lead into him seeking the dark lords who wronged him, or y'know high council

[frail bloom]

Did you see the concept art, they're my fav's

[merry sapphire]

yeahhhhhh but we dont actually SEE any of the events of the slayer testaments in the dark ages. so we're both #Wrong

[long heath]

im just guesing one of the dark lords are one of the statues in the canon areas or whatever

[merry sapphire]

also holy shit Horde Mode Gaming

[long heath]

erebus and random winged demon

im just guessing its erebus

[merry sapphire]

maybe that fatass demon we see a statue of, in the hell barge

[warm ibex]

it is DURING the Slayers Testaments

[long heath]

he looks fat and obese

[merry sapphire]

thats true Horde mode Gaming i concede

[warm ibex]

absolute goober activity this afternoon

[merry sapphire]

fatass chud demon

[frail bloom]

Aw he didn't see it

[long heath]

obesitys final boss

[frail bloom]

I love humanoid stuff

Kinda lackin in doom

Those vagary faces were pretty cool

[merry sapphire]

arent almost half the demons humanoid

[frail bloom]

No like resembling humans

But scarier

[merry sapphire]

they have both arms and legs and eyes and mouths and some of them speak

[frail bloom]

Like uncanny

Smt makes your skin crawl

[merry sapphire]

then thats just an uncanny humanoid

[frail bloom]

Ye more of that please

[merry sapphire]

humanoid means resembling a human shape

like how these classic area 51 aliens are considered humanoid

[long heath]

the cultist things from the cultist base

[merry sapphire]

thats just humans

[frail bloom]

I already drew what I would like so there's that

[long heath]

idk i never really got scared from a demon in the previous 3 entries

[merry sapphire]

imps and maykrs are humanoids

[frail bloom]

Ye and that should change it's time to get spooked

[long heath]

other than a couple of em from 2016

[shadow flame]

i love when some random dog ass zombie acts as the meatshield of a goddamn glory killable demon like this game cannot prioritize which enemies should I melee so then I die because of that like what the hell

[merry sapphire]

you love that? thats weird i usually dont like that happening

[shadow flame]

well you see... thats just how i roll sometimes

[merry sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/diorwidow-gif-19486937

[long heath]

the carcass should have been in doom TDA

[merry sapphire]

im #GoodOnDat

they are a fun enemy i just fucking hate them

[frail bloom]

Doom the carcass ages

[long heath]

theyre one of the few enemies in eternal that piss me off so much i just forget the quickswap combo i need for them and just mash whatever weapons i have to kill them, theyre fucking annoying

[merry sapphire]

a single destroyer blade can wipe them even through the shield

like a single pip of a destroyer blade

[frail bloom]

I simply use chaingun shield

[merry sapphire]

but thats boring

[shadow flame]

breaking news: the slayer just got trolled by a demon from the lowest of ranks

[frail bloom]

But it works

[merry sapphire]

it does work

[long heath]

noted

[shadow flame]

welp time to restart this level
again

maybe un is worse than I thought

[frail bloom]

Haha

[long heath]

after completing UN myself i might try brawler mode

[wheat sigil]

no

[merry sapphire]

you can do it

i think anyone can do it if they put their mind to it

[shadow flame]

im on pandemonium actually on sentinel barracks and getting trolled by funny bugs like the shield being stuck in blocking

[merry sapphire]

lost my un run mid game due to this. honestly all i can say is thug it out

[shadow flame]

although thats happened only one time
I've got like one more chance before the game kicks me out in the ass and to be completely honest sometimes I don't even know what I'm doing wrong
also what in the hell is the melee for, advanced tech speaking
people talk about melee combos but meleeing usually gets me closer to death than to killing my enemy because they are just going to load up their attack and it just so happens that the second hit's animation is too long, making it so I WILL get hit even if I'm gonna hold RMB to use shield as quickly as I can

[merry sapphire]

depends on the melee weapon honestly

flails and gauntlets are really useful for setting up falter chains, which makes super heavy demons a joke

and the kick from the gauntlets does crazy damage, i think does more damage than a point blank ssg

flail is really good for survivability since it stuns in a wide range and gives you tons of armor

[shadow flame]

ok tell me about it then
how do falter chains work
is this like a, I hit them after a parry twice, they attack and I parry their attacks and then continue hitting

[merry sapphire]

every 3rd hit is a guaranteed falter

and stalkers get faltered on every melee attack

i usually set up the melees after i parry so i have enough time to get that third hit in

or you can melee two random demons and save that third hit for a heavy

underthemayo has a pretty good video about it i recommend watching it

[shadow flame]

that will count? hm alright

[merry sapphire]

yup but dont take too long or get hit as that resets the chain

you can shoot in between melee strikes as well, so you can melee with the gauntlet to apply shock damage, shoot with a weapon, and then finish the chain

crazy damage

the shield is also amazing for faltering so you can combine all of those to make a falter chain

[shadow flame]

what if I start the melee chain but, like I said earlier, the enemy (mostly hell knight) will hit back faster before me
do I just gotta start the melee chain as fast as I can because otherwise its over

[merry sapphire]

then you set a falter before it

like throwing the shield

its mostly about timing and not getting greedy

if you cant get that third melee hit then dont. you know?

i gotta go right now but watch mayo's video about it. its what taught me about it

[shadow flame]

if im in a tiny room full of hell knights then meleeing is a bad bad idea right
cause they're just going to bitch slap you

[merry sapphire]

very bad idea. no space

[shadow flame]

I guess melee is reserved for single targets only and when you know you have the space

[merry sapphire]

better to focus on faltering with the shield instead at that point of the level

[merry sapphire]

thats just one factor of the melee

[shadow flame]

hmm alright

[merry sapphire]

it also gives you tons of resources with the flail

gauntlet for single target, flail for group

and dreadmace if you want the game on easy mode tbh

dreadmace is broken as hell you can just main it after getting it straight up

[shadow flame]

yeah deadass
its like why even use different melee at that point lmao
especially after upgrading

and especially x2 that the cosmic baron shows up in the same level and you want to hit him with that thing

alright thanks for all the help, perfect cell

[shadow flame]

aaaaand great welp a couple hours of my life completely lost down to shit lovely time

[hard thistle]

Am i the only one on ps5 that dislike the fact they descreased the number of sounds coming from the dual sense since the 2.0 update ?

[deft chasm]

There is one thing I'd change for Dark Ages... added more enemy variants. I would of made Cosmic Realm monsters exclusive to those levels. Demons should stay on all other levels but make the Cosmic variants unique

[wintry nexus]

I wish they add more cosmic demons in the dlc.

Especially that one concept art for i’m pretty sure a cosmic mancabus

[merry sapphire]

i agree. hope we see alot more in the dlc

[merry sapphire]

yeah its kinda crazy lowkey. i guess its only downside is that its boring so

[wintry nexus]

i NEED a cosmic arachnatron variant

[merry sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-cell-gif-11009529955506497046

[merry sapphire]

you always needin something Jazz

[wintry nexus]

Check out his perfect form He’s perfect

Nvm

[frail bloom]

Yay another doom ost ranking with dark ages in low tier

[wintry nexus]

He’s NOT perfect

[merry sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674

[frail bloom]

I swear am I tweaking

[wintry nexus]

?

[merry sapphire]

im Going to Kill you "Jazz" If that even is your REAL name

[wintry nexus]

Jazz is my government name

[frail bloom]

Goes by name bossranker

[merry sapphire]

well i can understand that tbh

[wintry nexus]

I’m gonna be honest

[frail bloom]

He put it in what is effectively E tier

[wintry nexus]

i liked the tda ost more than mick’s ost

don’t publicly execute me

[merry sapphire]

the ost is amazing and i like some tracks better than some of micks, but it dont got that synthetic argent metal style mick made and david levy and andrew hulshult replicated

[frail bloom]

Am I crazy like it's good music sure I like eternal's more but like SEVERAL tiers down just seems so out of place

[merry sapphire]

its more of its own thing

[merry sapphire]

nvm yeah thats stupid as hell

[frail bloom]

It's judt that in all these tier list vids I've seen they're so out of place and clearly biased

Not in a fair way like a "I won't give this the light of day"

[merry sapphire]

lemme guess, his best ost is 2016 and he put the ancient gods ost at like b tier

[frail bloom]

Actually lemme place them here

[wintry nexus]

Ppl are just hating because it’s not mick

Like jesus i know he was amazing but they act like it’s some phonk

[frail bloom]

Ultimate: doom 1, 2016, eternal
Amazing: Tag
Epic: Doom 2
Mid: Doom 3
Dissappointing: Dark ages(literally in E tier like what the actual hell)
Trash: Doom 64

[wintry nexus]

Doom 64?!???

[merry sapphire]

#SickAssName

[frail bloom]

How is Doom 3 better💀

[wintry nexus]

Biased opinion at its finest

[frail bloom]

Like you look at that ranking and there's no way in hell it makes sense

[wintry nexus]

:)

[merry sapphire]

doom 3 over dark ages actual insanity @wintry nexus Whats Your Opinion About this

[wintry nexus]

You didn’t need to ping me I’m right here but

[merry sapphire]

<:D

[frail bloom]

Dark ages ost is like a mix of classic with some of the modern styles of the new doom osts and he has it in dissapointing, effectively E tier

[wintry nexus]

It’s a bullshit opinion

[frail bloom]

E TIER??????

I'm just not understanding

Prefer what you want yes but what you prefer doesn't line up

[wintry nexus]

Haters gonna hate

Or wtv ppl say

[frail bloom]

But why hating why not loving

No more nuance anymore

[wintry nexus]

Exactly 😞

[frail bloom]

There's no more I slightly prefer this but hey this is very good too

Hey Doomtubers if you're reading this, make a dark ages ost tier list

Not a doom game ost, dark ages tier list

Would make for some interesting discussion

[jagged nymph]

I am Disapointed in Bethesda support, i sended a message about my problem with overpixelated markers and glory kill outline with screenshots, they answered IN GERMAN about how to fix game crash

[frail bloom]

Damn we got john pork in here

[frail bloom]

What

This is the first I heard of this what

Is this a joke

[wintry nexus]

Translate it?

[jagged nymph]

i translated it, it was about how to fix game crash

[wintry nexus]

Oh wait

Yea i didn’t read that last part

[jagged nymph]

i can send you screenshot

[wintry nexus]

That’s weird

[frail bloom]

Damn

[jagged nymph]

i know

and im disapointed, like, how the heck...

[frail bloom]

Kinda the first time I heard of this

I don't really know how to explain

Or who to ask

[jagged nymph]

i dont even know what to write rn

[jagged nymph]

"Emily"

[soft ibex]

Ультракилл это же Дум?

[jagged nymph]

Da no takze i net

please speak english

[long heath]

ill go play the dark ages

[green estuary]

L

[uneven mortar]

Mutant azhrak fight lowkey isn't very fun

[green estuary]

it's hard

[uneven mortar]

It's a well designed boss battle but I dread it on repeat playthroughs

[green estuary]

kinda same
because I know I'm about to get my shit kicked in unless I'm really on point

[uneven mortar]

It should save progress after his second phase

The bosses should have been spread out over the game tbh

Getting to the end and then knowing you have to do 4 boss fights in a row sucks

[delicate grotto]

Unfortunately every modern Doom game has this problem. Doom Eternal less so with its inclusion of the Doom Hunter and Marauder introductions.

[green estuary]

it does

it saves progress after every phase

[delicate grotto]

Personally he’s my favorite Boss out of the entire Doom franchise

[green estuary]

same

[uneven mortar]

Really??? I think I remember redoing the whole fight each death

[green estuary]

yeah you don't have to redo the whole fight unless you're on pandaemonium

[frail bloom]

Massive L

[sleek hawk]

hola

[feral cargo]

where Doom 3 RE?

[frail bloom]

Not sure he didn't include it

[feral cargo]

and old gods for eternal?

I know old gods are very divisive in the doom community

[frail bloom]

Tag stands for The Ancient Gods

[feral cargo]

oh, thanks for clarifying

[jagged nymph]

nah, optimisation in dark ages is way worse than in eternal... having literally same graphics... i think i will better refund...

[frail bloom]

I mean you do what you want with your money

But objectively false

[green estuary]

tbh I can’t trust someone who says TDA graphics are the same as eternal’s

[jagged nymph]

im just disapointed, twice, first was "Emily" from support, now this optimisation...

[frail bloom]

Much higher poly models for characters and enemies, much larger maps, much higher enemy counts, more natural lighting, much more levels, list goes on

Like looking at a human in eternal was looking at a wax model

[jagged nymph]

literally same, maybe dark ages has a little bit better, but its just ridiculous for poor optimisation

[jagged nymph]

you didnt played with settings didnt you?

[frail bloom]

Never

I'm a vanilla man, and humans in eternal look goofy

And demons have much lower poly counts

[green estuary]

lmao

[frail bloom]

Well not poly, but they look much better

An imps toe in dark ages looks more detailed than an entire imps hand in eternal

[green estuary]

you don’t even have to look at the details

[frail bloom]

But it's hard to see cuz of all the rippin and tearin

Plus like I said, super large maps, double the enemy count

[jagged nymph]

are you this type of person who thinks 30 fps is unplayable and 60fps is way better?

[green estuary]

Eternal’s whole environment is literally flooded with light the whole time

[frail bloom]

No I'm fine with 30 but it depends of the game

Also, don't buy smt without looking it up first

What's your specs and what frames you getting

Cuz the amt of ppl who just impulse buy just baffle me

[jagged nymph]

rtx3060 and do not dare to say that its outdated, its still good, but optimisation nowdays is just peace of crap, not gonna lie

[frail bloom]

Not specific enough, your entire specs

Some ppl have low vram or don't meet all the req

Meet the req and you'll have good framerates

What abt all the other ppl who actually meet the requirements? They get good playable framerates with no stutter bc they took the time to make sure they had what was requested

Some ppl on 2060 get 60-90 idk how

[half marlin]

I had 70 fps with 3050....

[frail bloom]

Ye so clearly you missed something with your set up

[jagged nymph]

11th gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz

16,0 gb

[green estuary]

I get 60-70 fps on a laptop 4060

[frail bloom]

(Y'all I don't own a pc are these good specs)

[green estuary]

At medium-high presets

[green estuary]

Yeah they’re decent

[half marlin]

tda is better optimized than eternal tbh, it loads a level like instantly unlike 5-10 secs in eternal, and in eternal I had fps drops to 40 while it dropped only to 50 in tda.

[frail bloom]

Ok so why is he getting what he's getting considering all the other ppl who hsve no issue

He didn't even say what framerates he's getting

[jagged nymph]

Funny joke

[frail bloom]

Ye don't know much abt that one, but levels do load quicker I'll give that

[half marlin]

dude I have to put 3050 back into pc and record that for you?

(if only I still had 3050)

[jagged nymph]

Average 40fps, but sometimes just drops to 10-20fps

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

unless he’s trying to run it on 1440p or something

[frail bloom]

Guys I can't find Jim

[half marlin]

while also having eternal running offscreen

[green estuary]

Even if I crank the graphics way up I still rarely drop below 50 fps native

[frail bloom]

He had an easy profile to recognize but now I don't know

WHERE'S JIM

The guy who's really good with computers and stuff

[jagged nymph]

In eternal i had on very high graphics ( I don't remember exactly the name of this graphics) 90 stable fps.
Without dlss.
In dark ages, with minimal graphics and with dlss, i have 40 average with heavy drops.

[jagged nymph]

What

[frail bloom]

I was gonna ping a bunch of Jim's but I don't feel like it

[green estuary]

if you have dlss quality 1080p, then 40fps average makes zero sense

[jagged nymph]

1920-1080

[frail bloom]

Then smt is wrong with your pc other ppl have lower and get higher

If only I knew which one was the correct jim

Y'all know Jim

[green estuary]

you could just have a crappy card, because eternal honestly runs much better than 90 fps at 1080p if you’ve got RT off

[half marlin]

u can try to find him by searching his messages on server

[jagged nymph]

What is wrong with my pc, if dude above said he had more stable fps in dark ages than eternal, when mine is running perfectly eternal

[half marlin]

don't think it's the card, my 3050 handled rt in eternal and tda perfectly

while he has 3060

[green estuary]

No I mean his particular card is crappy

Not the model

[frail bloom]

(I ain't talking abt that guy, all I'm, saying is people with lower cards get more on dark ages then you do)

[half marlin]

could be

[frail bloom]

So smt is clearly wrong

Lemme find Jimmy Jones

[half marlin]

it could be old drivers if he didn't update them (very unlikely) or maybe uhm idk
need to change thermal paste

[jagged nymph]

Even if its problem with my pc, i still see that a lot of devs just being too lazy to optimise normally game, and most of the work they throwing at nvidia with their shitty dlss, only because Nvidia supported development

[frail bloom]

Someone isn't understanding smt

[green estuary]

“unoptimized” is becoming the equivalent of incel in the gaming world
everybody uses the term, but nobody knows what it means

a game with beautiful graphics that can run at stable frame rates on a half-decade old card is not “unoptimized” no matter how you stretch the meaning of the word

[frail bloom]

damn it I lost my paragraph

[half marlin]

that's def true, but not related to tda
even tho it relies on dlss it's not badly optimized

[frail bloom]

Brass tacks, Dark ages would've taken 8 years to release with the same graphics, not worth it

[green estuary]

with baked lighting it would have also taken up significantly more hard drive space as well

there’s a reason TDA has more environments but takes up less space than eternal

[frail bloom]

I FOUND HIM

Found you Jimmy

[half marlin]

eternal has dlcs tho
I wanna see how much would be the difference in space when tda dlc releases

[frail bloom]

@potent sonnet this guy is getting 40 fps with heavy dips, what could be wrong? Would appreciate some insight, thanks

[green estuary]

without the DLCs eternal still takes up more space
I’m 90% sure when I first downloaded eternal it was 80+ gigs but TDA only took up 70+

[frail bloom]

Eh well

[half marlin]

rn eternal is 89 gigs and tda is 79

[frail bloom]

Hmmmm

Well eternal has master levels, and a dlc, and a battle mode and horde mode

Does anyone know the gig sizes for those?

Seperately?

[half marlin]

not me

[frail bloom]

There you go, Thanks Jim

[jagged nymph]

I have ps4 disk pf doom eternal, 2020 year

55gb

[frail bloom]

Oh wow a last gen game runs on a last gen console

Shocker.

Do you expect dark ages to run on the ps4?

(Pls say no pls say no)

[jagged nymph]

Doom eternal was working perfectly on ps4 tho

[green estuary]

Would the cpu really be the limiting factor at such low frame rates?

[frail bloom]

Ye DUH

It was 60 fps

Jim should work at id software

We needs his help

@jagged nymph
Ye but all in all you choose what you want to do with your money, but your justification isn't really the games fault and it's not your fault either

[devout star]

im playing dark ages rn

its fun

but not as fun as eternal

not even close

[frail bloom]

It's more fun for me

Parrying? Hell yeah

[devout star]

i love the fast paces thing about doom eternal

[frail bloom]

Plus more horizontal focus? Hell yeah

[devout star]

and dlcs omg

this game im playing on nightmare i have died like 3 times only

[jagged nymph]

||Well, I'm more into fast killing machine too, than a walking tank||

[frail bloom]

But dark ages is fast paced it just isn't quite AS fast

[frail bloom]

What level you on?

[sudden stump]

I mean you can be a fast killing machine in TDA too... try shield bashing more often

[frail bloom]

What lv Mr. tuna fish

[devout star]

i just finished holy city of Athens

[frail bloom]

Athens

[devout star]

?

[jagged nymph]

In eternal i just can fly across all arena, ngl, I like this kind of gameplay better

[frail bloom]

The game gets gradually much more difficult as the game progresses. There aren't any difficulty spikes it just gets harder and harder than the last

Acts 2 and 3 were buffed last month so expect some really hard encounters

[devout star]

oh

alr then

[sudden stump]

And in TDA I can fly across the arena without even having to switch to SSG. Shield bash is amazing, overall though you are more on the ground but horizontal speed can still be crazy as you move from enemy to enemy

[frail bloom]

Ye absolutely no problem with that but at the end of the day it's preference. These games are designed for preference, some prefer all, some prefer some, some prefer one

[devout star]

maybe no having double jump or dash made me not enjoy as much

also i dont rly like the challenges

[frail bloom]

I mean they're just challenges

[devout star]

it just gives you 50 golds 😴

[frail bloom]

Ye pretty 💤

[devout star]

not rly a reward tbh

[frail bloom]

Ye would've loved some final weapon mastery

[devout star]

ye thats what im saying

[frail bloom]

With a new upgrade

And not a skin

But it's like, a really small part of the game

I'm waiting for the ripatorium community preset updates, the master level campaign I'm predicting will come out and the dlc

Which is WAAAAYYY better than a few master levels, a mini campaign horde mode and a kinda "mid" but still good dlc

[queen lintel]

Who has the $2000 skin

[jagged nymph]

Tf2 players

[queen lintel]

Not wrong...

[sudden stump]

definitely not wrong

[frail bloom]

I don't know no one who bought that

2000 is crazy

[jagged nymph]

See ya lads, i gtg play Helldivers 2

[queen lintel]

I'm bouta get clowned on

[frail bloom]

Cya, have fun

[frail bloom]

No you didn't.

No you did not.

Wait, unironically this is a W

Y'know why?

This man has given ID 2000 dollars, thus increasing their budget

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[queen lintel]

Wait true

[frail bloom]

You just saved the dlc

[queen lintel]

Maybe we'll get quake reboot too

[frail bloom]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN VEGA

[queen lintel]

Damn bro doesn't want you to post anything anymore

Hmm I'm curious how the PCs gonna turn out

[remote trellis]

can someone help me on what to do next? i’m on chapter 13 and the yellow marker is in the middle of nowhere. i have 2/3 tentacles and 1/2 portals

ive reset checkpoint reset game etc think the only way to be done is reset chapter?

nvm a second marker appeared. out of nowhere its good now

[hard thistle]

howdy <@&162901871168585728>, IDK who to contact. Just wanted to report a bug Ive encountered doing a second playthrough to finish levels. Every time I encounter a boss (like a leader) the enemy will stagger highlighted purple and when I hit the E key to finish them off, I will hit them but It will not do anything. they just stay eternally in a daze and spawn the same demons over and over again. This is for every level.

[winter idol]

we suggest you report it to the bethesda help page on their website since we do not help with game related issues

[hard thistle]

Will do. Thanks

[frail bloom]

2 hrs??

Bruh

[remote canopy]

I'm so late but try shield bashing them,it will always kill a staggered enemy

[remote canopy]

Tbh unoptimised depends on the type of unoptimised you're talking about
Doom tda can maintain frames very well,it can also load faster than eternal,looks great aswell,however runs a little bad

Also I like how people call Expedition 33 optimised but tda unoptimised

I'm getting lower fps on 1080p low in expedition 33 compared to doom tda

[frail bloom]

I guess compared to eternal you won't get as much, but you still get playable frame rates

And for the graphical and enemy and spectacle increase? Hell yeah

Still above 60

[hard thistle]

Yea nothing works. They just stay staggered and highlighted purple indefinitely.

I’ve reinstalled the game and will re-test.

[warm ibex]

please let me know the results of your testing so I can relay the info

[deft chasm]

If the game got an extra year in development we'd probably see more Cosmic enemies

[silent trail]

Yes wrong, it's not a skin, it's a hat

[silent trail]

I think you mean $2000 hat

[queen lintel]

Hmm

Doom 5080 skin

[meager vortex]

maybe dlc later

5080 skin and other skin maybe dlc later all

[covert goblet]

I just kicked the Kreed Maykr's ass for the 30th time.

[odd bane]

Hey I heard there’s been some nice updates to DA since release

Is it true

Will it still be updated more or is it done?

[green estuary]

it's gonna get more updates obviously

but regarding what those updates will be, only the guys at id know

[solid nacelle]

Yeah they've added stuff like the ripatorium, slow motion slider and a bunch of QOL changes. More updates coming like Ripatorium 2.0 and an ability to swap melee weapons and shield runes without going into the menu, campaign dlc as well obviously

[odd bane]

That’s awesome!

Slow motion slider? — got to love ID for adding things the fans make mods for

Interesting how will you swap melee and shield runes without pausing on Controller? Maybe DPad?

[north spire]

Dark ages is well optimised for higher end PCs and next gen consoles

The problem is that said higher end PCs and next gen consoles are very expensive

I think it’s got something to do with the fact that you don’t really see big leaps when it comes to graphical fidelity anymore

At least not to the same extent as something like the ps1 to ps2

Still, I do think it’s a little silly to call this game unoptimised when I barely had any issues with it on consoles outside of one crash

Tbf though, I was having issues on launch with the skybox freaking the hell out cause my Laptop was running the minimum specs

So I had to pay $200 for two copies of this game which made me very sad :(

I’m more forgiving to this game though cause the gameplay is extremely fun

[jagged nymph]

Golden pan

Oh, wait

Golden pan cost way more

[jaunty canyon]

In my opinion, while DA looks absolutely stunning in some areas, there are parts where it honestly feels more like a console game from 2020, so I can’t fully agree with the defense of its visuals. That said, graphics aren’t the most important part of a game. What really stands out is how well idtech8 performs (if you’ve got the hardware), and how good it feels to play, and that’s something DA really nails. High spec requirements probably hurt sales a lot, but it can still age like fine wine on the long run as people will get better hardware eventually.

That being said, I’d still trade some of that technical polish for a more complete and compelling overall game experience any day. I mean, it even had things like invisible walls at launch - not sure if those are still there nowadays - so not even a rock there.... and releasing an "AAA" game in that state feels like a pretty low bar, honestly.

[jaunty canyon]

The engine in DA is genuinely impressive - even extraordinary - but I think most people will sadly never fully appreciate just how good it is. Maybe it’s because I’m really into computer graphics and can recognize the kind of technical advancements it brings. Or maybe I’m just biased and giving it too much credit ... hard to tell .

Then again, maybe that’s how it should be. Maybe most people shouldn’t have to care about the tech behind the scenes. It’s a tough question. That said, when I try to look at it objectively, I honestly think things like Digital Foundry have been one of the worst things to happen to gaming in general. Games should first and foremost be about gameplay, and if an AAA title can deliver that and push boundaries visually, then sure, the extra praise (and price) is well-earned.

The weapons and shooting mechanics in DA are also fantastic. That - along with the engine - is why I gave it a 6.5/10 in my review at launch. And to be honest, I still stand by that score. It was a bit generous, I admit, the engine and the shooting won me over a bit. But that’s mostly because I love DOOM so much (the classic tho, which I still play almost every day).

[shadow flame]

what the hell killed me

I was nearly done with the vagary champion on my new pandemonium save and then I just
I just died

I was close to it and thats all I know unless I got sniped by the mancubus from far away

500 km snipe kill with no sound or graphical effect to tell me that it killed me, instead suddenly I'm just laying on the ground and 40 minutes lost

this happens all the time

most of my deaths in this game are third parties

[long heath]

theres no fucking way, i died to the kreed makyr on ultra nightmare

fucking how

last i ermember the boss was easy asf

[verbal elk]

Dawg I can barley go above hurt me plenty

[frail bloom]

Exquisite, top of my life, a radiance in gaming

6.5/10

Can I ask why(cuz I'm curious), and will updates to the game change that score?

[harsh egret]

the invisible walls are -3 points (i have no idea what they mean by invisible walls)

"these great things is why i gave it a... mid score!"
wut lol

[frail bloom]

It's prob more obv

No way it's invisible walls it's prob got to do with bugs

[harsh egret]

wouldve liked a further explanation to that score to give some context lol

and its kinda crazy to me how the score doesnt change from a 6.5 on launch to now after these last updates

[frail bloom]

Maybe it has to do with story and ost

Not like those factors really change besides the mixing

I'm not talking abt dlc btw

Obv that will have new ost and a new story but for now you can't really add cutscenes or make a new ost for a side mode

[static harness]

Hi

[solar spoke]

I've seen IGN critic scores more sensible than this.

[north spire]

I disagree, but I respect your opinion :)

[jaunty canyon]

The dragon and mech levels meant instant -2,5 for starter, even Panzer Dragon was more fun and that is an old game from times 3D was not easy to make. Then some of the enemy AI was just as "deep" as in the original Doom but a few decades passed. Then it had invisible walls at some points, not even some rock or walls was put at those places, just the air blocked you like on playstation1 maps. Then it had blury textures all over the place, so I was indeed generous only taking away another 1 point for all that.

[north spire]

I’ll say this, I expected more the story this time considering they were putting more emphasis here

It’s not as detrimental to this game as something like last of us 2 (or even spider-man 2 tbh) cause doom is definitely still gameplay focused, but it was still unfortunate

And I really, really hope the dlc doesn’t end with something other than the fall of the sentinels cause even as someone who likes dark ages a lot, I have no idea where they can go from here

[uneven mortar]

Bro took 10% off for "blurry textures" actual graphics gary

Also the mech is fun

[solar spoke]

I can understand the dragon sections being a little tedius but the mech sections were a full on power fantasy that I really enjoyed

[solar spoke]

Blurry textures are enough to remove that amount?

[north spire]

The turret sections are easily the worst out of the 4 gameplay styles

Idk what the point of those sections were considering there’s only 2 and a half total

People talk a lot about how the main gameplay style doesn’t feel like Doom and I personally disagree, but these sections definitely don’t fit this type of game and I hope they aren’t in the dlc

[jaunty canyon]

I’m not sure. It is just an opinion and I'm wrong many times, but I was thinking about it for a long time, it was not a half assed score.
I saw that some mods allow you to skip the Dragon and Mech levels — that’s definitely something I’ll try at some point. I played for 30 hours and got 100% completion on Steam when it launched (I bought the premium version, so I had early access). I haven’t felt like playing it again since then, but I probably will one day, and I’ll revise my review accordingly.

[jaunty canyon]

what do you mean, the entire list was 1 point not just the blurry textures

[topaz oasis]

yo guys, check this out, the BFC part in Neratul but with SC and flail only and 50% damage to demons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKnx4N1zr9c

[jaunty canyon]

Bro took 2,5 points for mood killing unrip and untear dragon and mech stuff, and bro took another 1 point for gameboy level AI + textures from Rage + the half***ed map parts.. bro was generous

[wheat sigil]

brawler mode be like

ggs tho

[frail bloom]

Ah I see, well they added a lot of Qol xhanges and even a new mode! Plus the mech sections got an update as well as the dragon only having parriable shots so you can basically always empower your turret. I don't really see how the ai in this game are primitive compared to the last two, they do their job well within the context of the game, so maybe another replay is in order, up to you

[frail bloom]

Prob the discovery of nekravol and hunting the high council, the sentinels just had a bad two days

[hard thistle]

Reinstalled the game, same thing. I did import all my save files if that matters. If you want any further details or to watch a livestream of the issue- feel free to DM.

I will also try to replicate it on my other PCs with the same save data on their local installs

[vivid light]

I lost my UN to technical issues lmao

It seems fps drops can cause your shield to not want to put itself up

I wanted to parry a hunter but the game wouldn't let me put up the shield like the ssg bug was there but it wasn't the ssg's fault

[hard thistle]

This system is part of a test batch for new retail units. It’s pretty stout for its class. I haven’t had time to test the issue on my main rig or laptops as of yet. It’s just soft locking me on every level with a boss that has to be beaten to progress further.

[topaz oasis]

There are definitely some bugs with the shield

It has happened to me that sometimes after a parry doomguy wont put the shield down until he gets guardbroken

[weak wigeon]

I got it... The golden slayer skin

[topaz oasis]

So you literally cant do anything until you take damage

[weak wigeon]

It was not worth it

[topaz oasis]

Hey, UN is fun, of course it was worth it

[weak wigeon]

I also got every single secret in that run

So I basically 200% the game now

[topaz oasis]

Nice, did you do all gore nests, rubies and wraithstones?

[weak wigeon]

Yep

I got the achievement for getting them all

[topaz oasis]

The first gore nest of Resurrection had me clenching my butt

[weak wigeon]

FR

[topaz oasis]

Jesus that shit was packed

[jaunty canyon]

Thank you for the headsup and the info, I will take a look at the changes next time.
I do know about the new mode, I even tried to play it once, but I did not feel like setting it up and I decided to play something else that day, so I only saw it on YT.

[weak wigeon]

I also did every gamemode and secrets

So I have everything unlocked

[harsh egret]

yh kinda curious that he said that to this day his score would be the same but they didnt even play it after launch

[frail bloom]

They are still going to update that mode btw. As Hugo said, lots of value proposition for this game is comin up for this year. Like for example, soon we will be able to share community presets and make are own plus some more qol changes on how you set up your ripatorium set. I'm also expecting a master level campaign based on the leaks and ofc a very meaty dlc

[frail bloom]

Ye a bit strange

[jaunty canyon]

I did not say such thing

[harsh egret]

like if the game was a 8.5-9/10 on launch for me, now its like a 9.25/10

[frail bloom]

Tbf he said he didn't play the ripatorium

[harsh egret]

"That - along with the engine - is why I gave it a 6.5/10 in my review at launch. And to be honest, I still stand by that score"

maybe i misread and it just meant u stand by the score u set... "at launch"?

[frail bloom]

I mean I can give him some presets

My friend I made like 11

[harsh egret]

not meaning thats ur score u would give NOW

[frail bloom]

I'm rolling in presets

[harsh egret]

u need some more compact way of sending them lol

[jaunty canyon]

yes, sorry if it was not clear, English is not my native language (but that is probably blatan obvious)

[frail bloom]

I'm only sending like two

Here, try these two:
(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader
(1)"Oops! All Champions" loadout:

30 zombies
5 energy soldiers
10 shield soldiers
4 stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 hell knights
1 aggadon champion
1 komodo champion
1 vagary champion

As you can notice, the potential to fight more than two superheavies makes this mode really fun

You can really tap into the current potential the game has

And it's still changing and getting better each update

[harsh egret]

the day we get rippatorium 2.0 is when that mode will probably be so fkin good

[jaunty canyon]

Thank you, I will try them next time I'm home at my PC.

[harsh egret]

just like we got battlemode 2.0 eventually, i dont doubt they will add lots of new things to the ripatorium

[frail bloom]

So is the next update 1.5 then bc I expect them to add dlc stuff to it aswell

2.0 implies finality so it prob won't be soon

[harsh egret]

not necessarily, could be 1.1 even lol

but its all just a number anyway

i just imagine 2.0 being the finalized version with EVERYTHING they want or can put in

[frail bloom]

But sadly we have to wait until the 25th to even find out

[harsh egret]

if even that

[frail bloom]

Honestly judging by how close they are to finishing the preset stuff they might release the next ripatorium update on the 25th

Hugo made it sound like it was up and workin it just needs some adjustments

[harsh egret]

Did he? Don't even remember that tbh

[frail bloom]

Ye last stream

Might have to rewatch it

[simple grail]

Anyone else got a bug with Commander Valen's Codex Entry in Resurrection?

[violet vapor]

Not me

[devout star]

im gonna beat doom vfr after dark ages

and when i beat vfr i will beat the two rpgs

but sadly i cant play mighty doom and resurrection

i can download mighty doom but it doesnt open

resurrection i cant find it anywhere and j heard its lose media

besides that i think i will have beaten all doom games

[simple grail]

...Chapter 20 of TDA?

[devout star]

nahhhlol

doom:resurrection

mobile game from 2009

im trying to beat all doom games

[orchid rover]

So not blocking while SSG reload was a bug? I thought it was a feature

/intended mechanic

[wintry nexus]

That’s crazy

[frail bloom]

Oh my it's godzilla

[orchid rover]

The game has just gotten way more fast-paced and difficult with the updates

I definitely FW it

[frail bloom]

Guys godzilla should be in doom

Tell me wrong

[wintry nexus]

Peak collab

[frail bloom]

If cthulhu is in there, why not godzilla

[orchid rover]

I know for a fact they won't, but I hope a lot of the people who reviewed Dark Ages and felt it was clunky would consider revisiting the game

[frail bloom]

Prob not now, but I think ususally reviewers do some "retrospective" review like 1-3 yrs after a game releases. But for now I don't expect much ppl to come back especially with how marketing has been

[orchid rover]

Only the goats...(Act Man)

[frail bloom]

Ye I know he's gonna do another one

[orchid rover]

I'm expecting a DLC announcement by the end of the month or early October

We're about a month/month and a half between updates for now

[frail bloom]

I'm expecting it december, and releasing february

[hearty edge]

The verse soloers

[orchid rover]

I think any complaints about Dark Ages having less content than Eternal in totality is stupid, but we definitely should have around that or more by the end of the lifecycle

[frail bloom]

Can't forget abt the ripatorium updates and that potiental master level campaign

[orchid rover]

I need a new game plus right now