the-dark-ages

[exotic jetty]

Yessir

[scenic lichen]

everyone told me steam wouldnt crash and silksong community isnt that big

my brother in christ steam has been cooked for an hour and 40 minutes, look whos laughing now...

Are there any patch notes for TDA? Can't see em on steam

[merry sapphire]

SICK

[solemn mauve]

Ok hato, seems like you are right, the damn update has finally arrived

[merry sapphire]

now i can play the game while waiting for steam to fix itself so i can play silksong

[solemn mauve]

5.3 GB on series x fyi

[harsh egret]

[harsh egret]

ive like never seen this before for a game release lmao

i think i had trouble buying cyberpunk iir when that came out but it wasnt this long

[cursive grotto]

What's this new update

No notes on steam

[harsh egret]

ssg shield bug fix

added ammo and health/armor pickups in rippatorium

[cursive grotto]

Bro it's 4 gigs surely there's more

[harsh egret]

other than that we dont know exactly

i felt a dmg increase for the ssg at least towards some demons but not sure

[solemn mauve]

Yeah I'm waiting for the patch notes

[harsh egret]

ofc theres prob more, i think its mostly bug fixes tho

probably some checkpoints that were broken asf also

[solemn mauve]

Gonna try shooting some mancubus with the ssg asap

[cursive grotto]

It'd be really nice if they could just drop these patch notes

By the way

[harsh egret]

they always take like a couple hrs

[cursive grotto]

How much FPS do y'all usually get in dark ages

[hard thistle]

SSG bugfix here??

[solemn mauve]

Yes my man

[cursive grotto]

The ripatorium patch notes were dropped basically as soon as the update dropped

[exotic jetty]

I unno

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[harsh egret]

yeah thats a major patch, literally every other patch has been like this tho

[hard thistle]

wowwu. finally

[harsh egret]

like 120 or smth

120-140

[solemn mauve]

I know bro I know

[cursive grotto]

What are your specs

[harsh egret]

5070ti 12600kf, 1440p dlssQ max graphics no PT

[frank turtle]

they fixed it?

[warm ibex]

I knew something was up when I opened chat and the first message I saw wasn't about the SSG

[harsh egret]

lmfao

[cursive grotto]

Bro gah damn i thought mine was decent

I get 70-90 FPS

[harsh egret]

i mean thats not bad

not everyone spent 1k for a gpu

[solemn mauve]

They did, now I'm full awake

[merry sapphire]

wheres the patch notes

[harsh egret]

this is gonna be the new "where ssg bug fix"

they always take a few hours

[cursive grotto]

My dad for some reason bought me a laptop even though i have plenty of space for a PC in my room

[harsh egret]

apart from like major updates

[cursive grotto]

My performance could be way better if i had a PC and not a laptop

[harsh egret]

yeh

[cursive grotto]

I have a 4060 though which isn't bad

Just would be way better if it wasn't a laptop 😭

[exotic jetty]

Lol

[cursive grotto]

Though i drop to 30-40 FPS if i turn off dlss which is pretty crazy

[warm ibex]

I haven't had the chance to log on, is it a downloadable update or tunable?

[hard thistle]

anyone got link to the patchnotes?

[warm ibex]

read up like four messages bro

[harsh egret]

downloadable

[warm ibex]

ah sweet

[harsh egret]

4 gigs on pc

THERE ARE NO PATCH NOTES YET

I REPEAT

NO PATCH NOTES

IT ALWAYS TAKES THEM A FEW HOURS TO RELEASE THEM, IDK WHY

NO PATCH NOTES YET. NOT YET.

[solemn mauve]

The funny thing is today was the day I installed Eternal cuz of this waiting. Imagine my shock when ID fixed the damn ssg, did I jinx it?

[warm ibex]

4 gigs for a handful of bug fixes?

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

I see what's going on here, id software

[exotic jetty]

Ha funny

[harsh egret]

i mean u could speedrun the whole game and see whats changed before the patch notes

[merry sapphire]

game finally feels so much better holy shit

[cursive grotto]

I hope some performance improvements are included

Would be nice if i could push 100 FPS

[solemn mauve]

Ok holy shi, 30 seconds and I'll be in game

[merry sapphire]

and it NOW SAVES YOUR LOADOUT IN RIPATORIUM 🙏

FINALLY

[harsh egret]

for ur specs u seem to be getting around what i'd expect, i dont think im getting more fps at least

[solemn mauve]

WHAT

[harsh egret]

HEEHHH?

[exotic jetty]

U ain't joking right?

[harsh egret]

THANK FUCK

[solemn mauve]

Ok ok ok ok

[merry sapphire]

NOPE

[cursive grotto]

I'm somehow getting less FPS in the main menu now

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/everybodystaycalm-staycalm-stay-calm-everybody-gif-13261191

[cursive grotto]

Goddamnit what

[merry sapphire]

Finally man id software locked in

[exotic jetty]

Thank hugo🙏🙏
The waiting the insufferable waiting😭😭

[cursive grotto]

I have 40 fps in settings

Oh boy

[harsh egret]

turn em laptop fans to airplane mode

its not kekw, thats literally what they sound like

i know first hand

also it seems like they added Variable Rate Shading

[warm ibex]

"Have you tried using performance mode?"

The performance mode in question:

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-plane-fly-black-and-white-gif-17508420

[harsh egret]

in graphics settings

[exotic jetty]

This is the greatest day in DOOM history

[harsh egret]

with Variable Rate Shading on I get 10 more fps ish

so like 7% fps increase?

[exotic jetty]

Smooth as butter?

[warm ibex]

loud as hell

[solemn mauve]

SSG is doing ridiculous damage to mancubus lmao

[warm ibex]

thank FUCK man

[exotic jetty]

Was that pun?🙃

[cursive grotto]

Should i turn on g-sync do you think

[uneven mortar]

They buffed it against manc again??? Yay

[harsh egret]

hell nah

[solemn mauve]

Yes, just make sure to headshot with an impaler before ssg

[uneven mortar]

SSG doing bad damage against mancubi felt so wrong

[cursive grotto]

Do you have any settings tips or anything else for me to max out my FPS then

[exotic jetty]

Yea butt I'm gonna hop on after lunch and see for myself I'm rly exited ngl

[harsh egret]

try turning on Variable Rate Shading thats in the graphics settings

[lament lotus]

Link to the patch notes while I wait for install?

[warm ibex]

was not a fan of the manc becoming a damage sponge

[harsh egret]

its a new setting

[warm ibex]

no patch notes atm

[solar drift]

Patch notes are up on the Slayers Club. (I'd link but can't remember if links are permitted.)

[shadow flame]

uh TDA is getting updated for me

[stray urchin]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-2-1-hotfix-1-release-notes?linkId=100000381127554

[harsh egret]

they arent for me

oh damn nvm

[warm ibex]

I literally just clicked on that and it took me to an article from august 💀

[harsh egret]

"Fixed the issue where Champion Vagary had a chance to spawn when the base Vagary was selected "

https://tenor.com/view/jalen-hurts-jalen-hurts-meek-mill-i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-gif-13709870523385828441

"Reverted the Cacodemon health buff applied in Update 2" @frail bloom

Y.E.S.

[frank turtle]

0% slow mo is actually 0% now

[harsh egret]

absolute cinema of a patch

[exotic jetty]

Frfr

[uneven mortar]

They fixed the game! Excited to wait for content updates now

Will replay after silksong

[warm ibex]

"Increased Super Shotgun damage vs. Hell Knight and Battle Knight
Increased Super Shotgun damage vs. Cosmic Baron
Reverted the damage adjustments against Mancubus and its armor applied in Update 2
Increased Super Shotgun damage vs. Pinky Rider and Armored Pinky Rider
Increased base Super Shotgun (without upgrades) damage vs. Vagary armor"

there we go

[harsh egret]

i knew it felt more powerful against the cosmic baron that i tested the ssg fix on

[solid nacelle]

"Update 2.1 hotfix 1" what are we doing here guys was 2.2 not available lmao

[shadow flame]

so will you finally be able to block right after a SSG shot

[harsh egret]

yes.

[shadow flame]

damn finally

[harsh egret]

Reduced Impaler damage vs. Cyberdemon
Reduced headshot scaling of empowered Impaler projectiles (via Salvage and Chronospike upgrades) vs. Whiplash
Reduced headshot scaling of non-empowered Impaler projectiles vs. Revenant

[solemn mauve]

Aha? Srsly??? Hold up lemme try

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/tornado-wait-twitter-don't-do-not-gif-15045322123150449477

[harsh egret]

Shield Charge AOE (Area of Effect) will now cause health to drop from killed enemies

nice

[wind pike]

Holy shit SSG is cooking again

[harsh egret]

are u the real hugo martin

[wind pike]

Nope he’s just my idol

[solemn mauve]

Of course Hugo, we were waiting for this

[harsh egret]

thank you so much for the patch hugo

[wind pike]

I heard Hugo has an 8-pack guys

[shadow flame]

can the Cacodemon no longer shoot the green projectile without wind up??? worst shitty bug of that enemy

[wind pike]

That he’s shredded

[merry sapphire]

they also fixed the shield bash into a group health bug

they actually locked in for this patch holy shit

[exotic jetty]

Type shit

[exotic jetty]

They did🙂🔥🙏

[harsh egret]

Ancestral Forge

Resolved issues where additional combat encounters could be triggered erroneously

thank god for that, that level was cooked

[exotic jetty]

Imma play tda rn

[frank turtle]

[green estuary]

wait wtf did I miss

[merry sapphire]

"Shield Charge AOE (Area of Effect) will now cause health to drop from killed enemies"

amazing

[harsh egret]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-2-1-hotfix-1-release-notes?linkId=100000381127554

[green estuary]

let's goooo

[harsh egret]

huge patch

ssg bug fix and ssg buffs
ripatorium pickups and loadout saving now
balance improvements or reverts from patch 2
and fuck ton of bug fixes

[wind pike]

Someone cooked here

[harsh egret]

you hugo, you cooked

[green estuary]

holy shit shotgun armor breaks now cause a falter too?
ssg enjoyers are eating goood today

"Equipped Guns, upgrades, Melee weapon, and Shield Rune are now retained when reloading checkpoints during the campaign and when transitioning between missions"

FINALLY

[harsh egret]

this might be the last patch where we get balance stuff until like dlc and so on

[wind pike]

I’m happy with that

[exotic jetty]

Maybe butt who knows

[green estuary]

you know I was actually losing a little faith in id for a second

[harsh egret]

yeah, game seems to be in a rly good state rn

[green estuary]

how silly of me

[exotic jetty]

We all were

[harsh egret]

thats what ive been saying man, idk why ppl just didnt wait xD

[shadow flame]

damn the ssg is usable now

[harsh egret]

sure the ssg fix being added earlier by itself wouldve been nice

[solemn mauve]

Agreed, but now it's better

[harsh egret]

but if u knew this patch would come with all of this, then u would have been waiting im sure

[green estuary]

dude the shotgun armor break falter is actually enormous

[harsh egret]

pretty good update you could say

[green estuary]

and they reverted the caco HP buff

although the manc HP buff probably should have stayed

they're kinda supposed to be tanky as balls

[exotic jetty]

It's Hella good;)

[harsh egret]

[solemn mauve]

Yeah I just shield lock the caco, one impaler and one normal rocket or was that 2? I think it got dazed.

[exotic jetty]

Ts is the besy day of September 2025

[solemn mauve]

But srsly good update ID

[green estuary]

I think whiplashes and acolytes are the tankiest heavy demons again lmao

[meager vortex]

ssg is back!

ssg is now armored demons on shot kill

[green estuary]

we are so back

[scenic lichen]

noooo why did they revert the manc hp buff?

more like every manc change

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-were-back-baby-here-we-go-gif-12141676

[scenic lichen]

they juyst needed to fix the ssg's effectiveness towards them not nerf them to the way they were before

[green estuary]

yeah that's the only thing I didn't like

[scenic lichen]

well mancs are gonna be squishy again

:/

[exotic jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064

[meager vortex]

ripatorium ammo pac+ health pack+armor pack arena

[scenic lichen]

i get the caco hp revert but why did every single manc change get reverted? i felt like it actually helped them be more threatening

[green estuary]

"Shortened the delay for the player to interrupt Rocket Launcher and Grenade Launcher firing animations to Shield Block/Parry or Melee"

[harsh egret]

damn man the ssg is feeling good

[green estuary]

so based

rocket dueling superheavies is gonna feel so good

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doom-crossing-doomguy-double-barrel-gif-22202729

[exotic jetty]

Ye

[solemn mauve]

Yup, this will help alot against barons now

[hard thistle]

huh?

[scenic lichen]

i understand removing the resistance to the ssg for the manc and i guess to an extent i can understand the hp nerf but why the projectile size/speed and flamethrower revert? was it really that big of a problem for people?

[exotic jetty]

Question would it be cool if we got a giant sword for the atlan

[solid nacelle]

I wish they'd have kept the size changes for manc fireballs

[scenic lichen]

yeah i dont get this their projectiles were so easy to avoid the size/speed change was actually nice

[green estuary]

they went a little far with the mancs

[harsh egret]

maybe its too much for master levels/ng+

[meager vortex]

armor demons they armor explode

[solemn mauve]

Lmao imagine

[scenic lichen]

i dunno on my first playthrough i just rarely found mancs to be a threat

[meager vortex]

hey guys do you want 1960~1970 classic movie version doom the dark ages?

[scenic lichen]

they died quickly while their projectiles were super easy to dodge

[exotic jetty]

Sure sounds cool

[green estuary]

more stuff for me to add in my gameplay mod I guess lmao

[hard thistle]

can someone play with the new updates and tell me if things feel better and snappier now? i won't be able to play until like next week

[exotic jetty]

I will

[meager vortex]

you guy go to the color option make a 100% color option

[solemn mauve]

Yeah, so far with the experience that I got, it's fun, the ssg is working as intended, you could say that it has become kinda easy now

[scenic lichen]

hell yeah please do it 🙏

[meager vortex]

you guys can play 1960~1970 classic movie style doom the dark ages

[solemn mauve]

Sword and Shield, yes

[green estuary]

also I heard they added variable rate shading?

[harsh egret]

Yep

[green estuary]

anything to help my weak ahh laptop 4060 out

[harsh egret]

For me it was about 5-7% fps increase I'd day

[meager vortex]

if color option 100% checked play final misson ahzrack dead scene he will be wasted just like gta5

[green estuary]

sick

[shadow flame]

uh guess this game is even easier now lol
how much harder is the game on pandemonium/nightmare compared to UV
(also just checked and I guess both UN and Pandemonium are just Nightmare with a bunch of mechanic tweaks?)

[meager vortex]

100%color option demons color is red

items is blue

object is green

[green estuary]

UV is maybe a 3/10 in terms of difficulty
Nightmare default is a 5/10
Nightmare low parry is a 7/10
But if you crank the sliders up things can get pretty absurd

[solemn mauve]

Yes that is correct, but I'm just saying, if you do the atlan sections with minimum dodge window, it will break your ass, actually a game ender if you do it on UN

[harsh egret]

I think that should be like the one difficulty slider that should be fine setting on easiest on UN and stuff lmao

[green estuary]

yeah the atlan dodge window is fucking insane if you lower it

[harsh egret]

Ye

[green estuary]

I ain't never touching that one

also holy crap they actually removed all the slow mo when you have slow mo set to zero

let's go

[solemn mauve]

Noice

[upbeat junco]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

[meager vortex]

100% color option and played 21 chapter dragon dead scene very very sad

[topaz oasis]

So

[upbeat junco]

yeah bro fuck that i tried it on pandemonium, final battle really was my fucking final battle hahahah

[topaz oasis]

the final upgrade on the CS and SSG, more pellets per shot... what's that even supposed to mean? more damage? more range?

[green estuary]

the old one can either be a fun fight with a kickass soundtrack or damn near impossible if you mess with the sliders lmao

[upbeat junco]

More dmg

can't believe im seeing this question but its the internet

[solemn mauve]

More pellets = More Damage

[green estuary]

literally the shotgun shoots more pellets, so more damage
the combat shotgun now shoots 9 pellets instead of 7, and the ssg shoots 15 pellets instead of 13

so point blank damage with the ssg goes from 14300 to 16500

[upbeat junco]

anyone got the link to patch notes ?

[green estuary]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-2-1-hotfix-1-release-notes?linkId=100000381127554

[topaz oasis]

I honestly dont notice the difference in damage

[upbeat junco]

Merci

Just got off work im too tired to look it up

[green estuary]

try shield bash + ssg into whiplashes
getting them into dazed is much more consistent with the wraithstone upgrade

[upbeat junco]

health and ammo pickups in ripatorium

[green estuary]

also it's just a flat 15% increase in damage which is nice

[solemn mauve]

That's goated and will help alot now

[green estuary]

now I don't have to face rocket myself in order to heal lmao

[meager vortex]

+armor pack

[solemn mauve]

Yes that too

[meager vortex]

ripatorium=ripandtear

[upbeat junco]

ey it was pretty cool lol

made me appreciate the rocket launcher even more

[green estuary]

yeah but I'd rather use my rockets to damage enemies and heal myself instead of just running away and shooting rockets into the ground

[upbeat junco]

true

[green estuary]

although the ravager is goated for that reason

[upbeat junco]

oh finally the selected rune/melee stay

[green estuary]

constant health drops is insanely underrated

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/ucf-spirit-splash-homecoming-ducks-gif-9982585

[solemn mauve]

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1413204684784533706/Screenshot_20250904_185046_Chrome.jpg?ex=68bb14ec&is=68b9c36c&hm=de3c585dad377184385f814eb1e90dc1f5a4a21aa117446db61b4977175184d3& turns out i wasn't tripping

[meager vortex]

if new neighbor join your next door but they are demons what are you going to do?

[solar cairn]

SSG Fixed?

[green estuary]

yes

[solar cairn]

Pls say yes

YEEEEA

[meager vortex]

ssg is returns

now the old one is dead

[upbeat junco]

fixed and buffed

[meager vortex]

ssg is now killing demons easy

[solar cairn]

Other weapon useless again?

[meager vortex]

nope

[green estuary]

since when were other weapons useless

this has never been a thing lmao

[upbeat junco]

🤣

[meager vortex]

ah i forgot impaler nerf

impaler is reduce damage again

now impaler is smallpaler

but don't warry ssg handle this!

[solid nacelle]

The shield still has this really awful buffer when taking damage

[warm ibex]

saw this out of the corner of my eye and thought the equipment launcher reloaded the SSG

[lusty shale]

https://youtu.be/g56M156NXis
nice

[warm ibex]

heyy there we go!

[lusty shale]

finally😭😭

[hard thistle]

i never felt a delay with the launchers

[green estuary]

there was a slight one
occasionally if you were rocket dueling a cyber or a baron you could miss a parry even though you queued the input on time

I originally chalked it up to the explosion cloud obstructing my view slightly but I'm glad I wasn't imagining things

[harsh egret]

also one thing i havent seen many ppl talk about is the halo-ing effect especially around characters in cutscenes
it seems like it has been reduced a lot, saw that in that video and went in game to check myself and it looks alot better

that was like my one complaint about the cutscenes

[solar cairn]

I caught a lock during the mission in the city of Aratum, I can’t ram the door, restarting from the control point doesn’t help, do you have any ideas?

I don’t want to start the whole mission from scratch

[harsh egret]

for those who dont know, im talking about the ambient occlusion with the background not being correct around characters, and it was especially bad when viewing a character from afar such as soldiers running around on the rooftops in the s1 intro cutscene

[exotic jetty]

It's better

I did a lil bit of ripatorium I'll put some images in #screenshots

[solar cairn]

Started the mission from the beginning(

[solid nacelle]

Oh yeah consoles still don't have that frickin double tap weapon class feature

Why???

[storm shadow]

Holy peak

Almost every bug that was fucking me up fixed and super shotgun buffs?

[rocky badger]

So Impaler definitely got a nerf?

[exotic jetty]

Kinda

It doesn't feel as good

[upbeat cipher]

So what’s this update just fixes and etc ?

[green estuary]

#the-dark-ages message

[upbeat cipher]

Ty 😁

[delicate shard]

PC player here, anyone else having an issue with Pandemonium where if have to restart the campaign on the Village of Kalim that the lives aren't respawning?

[drowsy aurora]

Yep

I did a run in UN and they respawned after I swapped back after dying there

Also, let’s goooooo! They reverted almost all the horrid buffs to demons and brain dead nerfs to SSG. Thank you for listening to us iD

[green estuary]

I thought the life sigils weren’t supposed to respawn after you collected them

[drowsy aurora]

This is persisting even after a run ends

[green estuary]

I thought once your run ended your save file was automatically deleted

[drowsy aurora]

Yeah, and sometimes the sigles don’t respawn either

It’s really bizarre

[shrewd bridge]

Do you guys have a game problem with the Heath shield soldier sometimes not dropping armor shards when you throw your shield on them? (when their shield is overheated)

[green estuary]

that’s a weird bug

[solemn mauve]

Huh? That's strange, gonna check if it happens to me

[green estuary]

I’ve never gotten it but I’ve seen some people get it

[shrewd bridge]

It's especially in first 10 lvls.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/s/mPWAhslvY9

I have this problem

Basically

[solemn mauve]

Huh, I honestly didn't encounter this yet, I'm at siege part 1 rn, I just shield throw 2 rows of metal shield soldiers in succession, they drop armor with no issues so far

[compact dock]

Bullshit! That sucks!

[green estuary]

yeah it's very hit and miss

99.9% of players never encounter the bug for whatever reason

[shrewd bridge]

I've seen steam post mentioned same issue.

It is weird yeah

[strong moth]

Hey look I beat campaign on Nightmare Update 2 “pre nerf” lol. Glad to see some of the things people didn’t like get fixed.

I noticed something on my fight with Ahzrak last night (during The Final Battle). It seems my Power Gauntlet third strike (kick), which I thought was a guaranteed Falter, didn’t Falter him. He used my fourth hit animation commitment to hit me with his point blank AoE several times. Has anyone else noticed this?

[hasty stone]

i wonder how much more buffing/nerfing hugo's gonna do...

[harsh egret]

might be the last balance update

at least until dlc

[rocky badger]

They should just delete the Impaler altogether now

[harsh egret]

no

[green estuary]

oh no, it doesn't two-shot stagger every heavy in the game now 😭

what am I gonna do

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-oh-no-no-gif-22181468

[green estuary]

unironically, chronostrike impaler headshots used to deal almost as much damage as a point-blank SSG blast with every single pellet landing

AND IT HAS FRICKING AIM ASSIST

[arctic pagoda]

Doomz

Technically if you watch a film in your native language, you're watching your language

[hasty stone]

i just beat the first valgary guy on nightmare it and was WAY easier but that;s goood

because its the introduction..and only 1 mancubus this time, 2 was TERRIBLE

[green estuary]

that fight already only had 1 mancubus since update 2

[arctic pagoda]

Monchibus

[green estuary]

although now that the mancs have been nerfed it's easier than it was before

[hasty stone]

yeah its fine now

[arctic pagoda]

The Narcubus

[hasty stone]

2 was annoying af i died so many times

[arctic pagoda]

The Big Chungusbus

[green estuary]

the solution was to delimb the mancs so that they were still alive but couldn't harm you

cool mechanic that they don't really menton in the tutorials
if you aim for the arms, the demon still takes full damage, but they lose that limb once it's dealt enough damage

[arctic pagoda]

All demons?

[hasty stone]

that's to mean

they have families too

[arctic pagoda]

It's justice for what they did to Daisy

[green estuary]

well, most of the heavy demons with arms that produce attacks
hell/battle knights, imp stalkers, and mancs

with imp stalkers they're not tanky enough for it to matter, but it still works with them

[hasty stone]

have mercy on there chungu's assses..

[arctic pagoda]

I'm sad the Razer didn't come back

Could've buffed him to be a sniper, but no

[green estuary]

in all honesty, the regular soldiers are basically hell razers with their charged projectile attack

and besides, hell razers didn't appear in eternal either, although it would have been cool if they did

[harsh egret]

cool enemy for sure, guess his laser attacks didnt rly fit with the shield combat and etc

[solid nacelle]

Fyi guys the cacodemon parry projectile is not fixed

[green estuary]

for fuck's sake

so he still does it without a windup sometimes?

[solid nacelle]

Yes

[frank turtle]

day 300 of no ssg fix

[cunning slate]

It is fixed

New patch out now

[frank turtle]

ugh please nerf the ssg

jk

[solid nacelle]

It's so funny cause I've seen this happen on Hugo's streams more than once but he never ever points it out like bruh

[warm ibex]

does it still do similar damage? I might've been sleeping on chrono

[green estuary]

Not sure, haven’t had time to parse through the updated files
But a chronospike headshot dealt 12k damage post-update 2
And a point blank ssg shot without the wraithstone upgrade deals 14.3k damage

[fervent maple]

How much does Salvage do?

[green estuary]

salvage works differently, instead of buffing the direct damage of the projectile, it adds 1500-3000 splash damage to it
So it should deal between 11500-13000 damage with a headshot and 6500-8000 with a body shot

[fervent maple]

Ahh

That explains a lot

[warm ibex]

wow that's high, didn't know it was capable of that sort of damage output. if it's still the same then I'm definitely trying that out, thank you

[fervent maple]

I still think it's better than Chronospike by virtue of the DPS you can get out of it

[green estuary]

It’s essentially just a free time slow plus a flat 20% damage increase with no drawbacks

Just slightly broken

[fervent maple]

I've done two Impaler focused runs out of my six playthroughs thus far, one with Salvage and one with Chronospike

The free slow mo was alright, the consistent long range damage was good as well, but I found myself really struggling against big guys like Cyberdemons

[warm ibex]

I like the raw speed of the impaler without the slowmo, but I'm willing to put that aside for a 20% damage buff

[fervent maple]

Whereas Salvage was slightly less consistent but more powerful, not to mention more engaging

[green estuary]

yeah salvage does seem to have a higher average DPS in exchange for no slow mo

Although cyberdemons are kinda tricky to get headshots on when you’re up close just because you have to basically look straight up lmao

[hasty stone]

stream finally on

[fervent maple]

I didn't really try this as a test, but I did two Ripatorium runs with the Impaler (one Salvage, one Chronospike) against a wave of like every Hell Knight type? Including three respawning Barons

I flat out died using Chronospike but did it nearly damageless with Salvage

The splash damage is really useful

[fervent maple]

I love using the Power Gauntlet for this reason, it's so funny how you go flying straight up sometimes with it lmao

[solid nacelle]

Hugo just confirmed that ripatorium presets will be sharable in the future

[harsh egret]

HUGO CONFIRMED THEY ARE WORKING ON THE DLC NO WAY

https://tenor.com/view/noway-gif-254273188714127328

[hasty stone]

master levels when

[wintry forge]

Just waiting on a leaderboards system now

[upbeat junco]

@frail bloom

[solid nacelle]

Well I guess we're never getting weapon class double tap on consoles

Which to me makes zero sense

[harsh egret]

officially we got hugo to blame for no daisy easter eggs

[rugged hill]

ight so does parrying feel fucked up with the new update or is it just me?

ALSO HUGO
STOP ENCOURAGING THE PLAYER TO GET UP CLOSE AND FIGHT AND THEN GIVING THE ENEMY AN AOE

[harsh egret]

you can parry the mancubus and he is so easy to kill now lol

if thats what u mean

[rugged hill]

nah talking about azrahk

[flat plinth]

why is dark ages so horribly optimized

[harsh egret]

brother dont even

[rugged hill]

it looks great on my pc

[harsh egret]

[flat plinth]

dont even what

[rugged hill]

and i dont have a fancy ass pc tbh

[flat plinth]

2016 and eternal run fine

but this game runs like shit

[rugged hill]

genuinely dont know how someone can play dark ages on ultranightmare

ultraviolence is really fucking hard lmao

[half marlin]

"gta sa and 4 ran fine but why can't I run gta 5"
same energy

[proud vine]

just practice a bit

you will get the hang of it eventually

[rugged hill]

tbf im probably too old lmao

im pretty good at this game if I say so myself but holy hell lmao

my reaction time is already slow as hell at my age

there definitely are moments tho where my parries arent hitting

[proud vine]

that happens sometimes

for some reason

[rugged hill]

i feel like the game was in a way better state at launch tbh

[harsh egret]

even after todays patch?

i could understand if u said that yesterday but i feel like its good now

some small things here and there still but

[proud vine]

honestly yes

only thing i would miss are the mech changes

[solar cairn]

It’s time to add master levels

[rugged hill]

no they got it right with the quality of life stuff but I think whenever they add things to the game, it breaks another aspect of the game

[proud vine]

that is probably because they are barely tested

[kind heath]

oh my god ssg is actually useful now

[rugged hill]

it really is

holy fuck its op in this update DONT CHANGE IT

[proud vine]

you should have seen it on release

[rugged hill]

it was so much better in release

[proud vine]

it was glorious

[kind heath]

me watching in horror as hugo nerfs the ssg to deal 3 damage for pellet

[proud vine]

one shotting hellknights will never get old

[harsh egret]

i think thats too much lol

im surprised it oneshots arachnotrons but oh well

[proud vine]

it was

but it did feel good

[uneven dragon]

this is why it shouldn't have been rebalanced :P

[green estuary]

The only nerf done between now and release was that on release it did more damage to hell knights
Unless I’m missing something, the ssg is actually buffed now compared to release, because now if you break an armored demon’s armor with the ssg/combat shotgun, they falter like with other weapons

[proud vine]

on released it used to do WAY more damage to armors

like chainshot level of damage

[green estuary]

bro it already one shots every heavy demon’s armor except mancs

How much more damage can it possibly do

[rugged hill]

one shotting hellknights was glorious

[harsh egret]

technically u still do, u just gotta kick them in the face to finish them off

[green estuary]

if anything it’s nicer against hell knights now because you get health drops

a gibbed hell knight doesn’t do me any good

[unreal terrace]

SSG FIX MY BELOVED

[strong moth]

I thought Cacodemons and Mancubus…es… felt too meaty on my Update 2 playthrough but didn’t remember them having been buffed.

[sudden stump]

damn they should have kept the manc buffs imo, reverting the SSG was enough

[dark thunder]

SUPER SHOTGUN FIXED LFG

[sleek hawk]

New fix update is fire

[sleek hawk]

was hyped abt that, prob my most used gun and shi was bugged when we got content till now 😭

[void eagle]

Super Shotgun fixed??

Am I reading this right??? What happened

Cleaving Mancubi in 2 shots was my favorite thing to do…

Then it became 3 shots to put them in glory kill state and an additional 4th to cleave them in half 😭😭

[solar spoke]

I still can't believe the gaslighting in that stream lol. Had Hugo and Josh looking for 5 minutes 😂

[wintry forge]

That was great

[sleek hawk]

Yeah super shotgun is fixed. There was a bug for a while ever since the ripatorium was released where you couldn't block/parry when reloading the SSG. It's been patched now and is 100% confirmed fixed.

Also came with these buffs:

Increased Super Shotgun damage vs. Hell Knight and Battle Knight

Increased Super Shotgun damage vs. Cosmic Baron

Reverted the damage adjustments against Mancubus and its armor applied in Update 2

Increased Super Shotgun damage vs. Pinky Rider and Armored Pinky Rider

Increased base Super Shotgun (without upgrades) damage vs. Vagary armor

[void eagle]

I might actually cry, thank you 😭😭

[sleek hawk]

Also when enemies lose their armor they falter now, so also pretty good matchup with the SSG

[void eagle]

Wait - they didn’t do that before if muscle memory recalls. So actually - not only did they revert the changes, they buffed it?!

[wintry forge]

Yeah the ssg is great again

[barren warren]

played every level post chapter 13 twice, game balance seems to be in a good spot

genuinely hoping they don’t make any major changes besides qol

[frank turtle]

did hugo say anything in the stream

I didn't get to watch

[green estuary]

they're working on the DLC and apparently he's been playing it

says it's awesome

[barren warren]

flying komodos please

[scenic lichen]

yall did they change the swap speed of weapons btw?

or am i tripping

[warm ibex]

from the update notes "Fixed an issue introduced in Update 2 that allowed players to potentially switch weapons earlier than intended after firing certain guns including Super Shotgun, Rocket Launcher, Grenade Launcher"

[warm ibex]

swim sprinting is in the works alongside the ability to swap melee/shield runes during combat. Ripatorium 2.0 was also sort of accidentally confirmed

saving and sharing Ripatorium loadouts is on the way

[stray urchin]

you aint tripping, one of my favorite weapon swap combos is so slow now(combat shotty into ssg)

[carmine pilot]

Are there any console commands that could help me past a soft lock?

[warm ibex]

what's the soft lock?

[drowsy aurora]

Ahhh, SSG feels so good to use again.

[scenic lichen]

thanks horde mode!!

[drowsy aurora]

I just got to Siege 1 in my Pandemonium run and destroying Mancubi with it feels so rewarding

[lament lotus]

ngl I think TDA had a small missed opportunity to make the pistol relevant for the first time since Doom II

Like it would've been interesting to use the Shield Saw as a riot shield, even if it'd be niche

[gleaming vortex]

the pistol wasn’t even relevant in doom ii. it was never relevant in any doom game, because most maps usually give you an actual weapon at the start.

but yeah it is missed

[lament lotus]

I mentioned Doom II only because Entryway gives you a shotgun towards the end of the level in a secret and it's not even that big of a level

And not counting Doom 3 because twenty minutes of exposition isn't exactly a fun place to use it.

[merry jackal]

It got buff?

[green estuary]

mostly just reverted to how it was before the big update 2 nerf

although now it deals a bit more damage to vagary armor when un-upgraded, and it also now causes a falter whenever you break armor with it like other weapons

[dark thunder]

the game is so much better with the ssg being fixed omg

i love id i can never hate on them

[obsidian shard]

@storm forge I found Another refrence in the DOOM TDA OST

Infernal Chasm has "Running From Evil" from DOOM II

9 Refrences now i Think

[hearty edge]

wait the ssg got fixed and no one told me

bro istg i've died twice on the last encounter of hebeth now i'm sick of restarting the level all over again

gonna beat final battle in one go again out of spite

this time with my super baby

[frank turtle]

I'm excited to try the new ssg

only on chapter 3 rn tho

[hearty edge]

man thought dead beats up retired old man in a mech suit

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-evil-grin-gif-20903082

[wheat sigil]

guh
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021939526739951638/1413398507745968229/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2025.09.05_-_07.37.40.11.mp4?ex=68bbc96f&is=68ba77ef&hm=194247e8919e5a986729d72d8cace2b0881dab75211e50693026bca2f1361b0a&

[frank turtle]

the ssg is so much better now Jesus

[frank turtle]

video is black for me

[wheat sigil]

block delay exists if you try to shoot and mod swap, but doesn't exist if you try either of them seperately

[topaz oasis]

oh man, UN in this game is so intense

made it to mission 10

[frank turtle]

awesome

[frank turtle]

the last couple of missions will definitely test you

[topaz oasis]

I'm afraid of the Komodo champion in Neratul, he's gonna carve me up

[frank turtle]

Just make sure ur picking up as much health and especially armor as you can

[topaz oasis]

I wanna punch him with the 4 piece combo on the fist but ehh... sometimes that whiffs on Komodos for no reason

ugh, those guys are annoying

when do they actually falter?

you gotta land 2 parries in a row or something like that?

it works like that for tyrants and aggadons but I cant get Komodos to falter consistently

[frank turtle]

I'm not too sure

I usually just damage until they falter

[sturdy crater]

did the update fix the trophy glitch? I still don't have my plat

I feel left in the dust, people who experienced this bug before had it fixed, but I swear the August update broke the melee and berserk trophies again, and I only finished the game in mid August

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[warm ibex]

The release notes mention that this bug was patched. Definitely submit a ticket to help.bethesda.net so they can look into that

[north spire]

holy shit this is SOOOO much better than before

the super shotgun now feels like the super shotgun again :)

[rotund smelt]

Hello, where should I contact the Doom Dark Age bug? Can I do it here??

[solar cairn]

I hope these are the last edits on the balance sheet

Because you constantly have to learn from scratch how many shots you need for a particular demon

[rotund smelt]

Have any of you in this community experienced a bug where you complete the ripatorium and still don't get a "perfection skin"??

[merry jackal]

idk how i got it tbh

How do u get it

[rotund smelt]

I didn't get the perfection skin either. I was told that I could get it by clearing 3 ripatorium maps, but I couldn't get them even though I cleared all 3 maps dozens of times. That's why I wanted to inquire about the bug, so I told the community here.

[heady mica]

Atlan not spawning has softlocked my UN 100% run and everything around me was too expensive to break, lord have mercy 😢

Pray for me yall im losing it

[sturdy crater]

oh it was? man I must be blind I didn't see it

ig I'll submit a support ticket

where does it say though, am I looking at the right site? https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-2-1-hotfix-1-release-notes

oh wait I see it now, I was blind... but then how is the bug still not fixed for me TAT

don't tell me I need to start another play through.. it would be my 3rd

[carmine pilot]

Basically, mission 5, holy city of aratum. During the tutorial section, you land and dismount the dragon for the first time, then you throw your shield at a chain to open the gate. Once this is done, a small cutscene of the dragon flying through occurs, and then once you regain control of the slayer, the door in front of them SHOULD open. But it does not. It never does. I've restarted map a dozen times, various reboots, loading other missions, loading on different platform (from XSX to PC). Tried the weapon wheel glitch but nothing. As I've 100% every level up to it, my sanity can't handle restarting on a new save in the hope it doesn't break again.

[sturdy crater]

ah I know exactly where you're talking about

[upbeat junco]

welcome back 120mm M1028 canister shot

[cursive grotto]

So

Fellas, i have a question for y'all

This is a topic of discussion i've seen pop up alot after yesterday's update

It looks like the majority of the community thinks the devs and balancers don't know what they're doing, and they feel like they're playing a new game every 2 weeks

And that the balances are happening too often

And that it almost seems like the devs themselves aren't confident in the combat loop of dark ages compared to eternal

What do you guys think though?

[upbeat junco]

fuck cacos so their hp reverse was ok, i wouldn't mind the manc hp reduction if it kept its buffed up projectiles

either like make them tanky with current projectiles or make them a bit weaker with fatter and faster projectiles

and super shotgun feels like a super shotgun again so all g

[cursive grotto]

I swear they can't just decide what they want to do with mancubi

It keeps switching between weak slow fat guy to actual tanky high damaging demon

[upbeat junco]

Yep

I've gotta say it feels so refreshing pulling the my wife refused to give me my 7th cold beer series on a cacodemon and putting it into execution state

[covert goblet]

I was replaying Gears of War last night (OG 2006 cuz why tf not)

I can't help but feel they took heavy inspiration from the lancer assault rifle for the shield saw.

[uneven dragon]

i think the combat loop was completely fine on launch

and personally i believe it has only gotten worse as time goes on :P

i think the devs kneeled a bit too much to ppl who wanted it to be more like eternal

[sturdy crater]

it's never gonna be like eternal, it's completely different

[solar spoke]

The whole point of The Dark Ages is that it's meant to be a separate game with a new combat loop. I'm glad Id are keeping it fresh with every release and I'm excited to see how they shake it up for the next game

[long heath]

Just gotta wait 9 more hours till the flight to Canada arrives

Then I can return to ripping and tearing demons in the dark ages

[cursive grotto]

I feel that too

Wahh no quickswapping

[uneven dragon]

yea like

the fact they nerfed the weapons and added quickswapping just feels like they wanna appease eternal fanboys

[long heath]

Weaponswap combos are still there but they're very different

I've heard of some combos recently

[burnt finch]

That Mancubus nerf was unnecessary I prefer tankier mancubus
it was close to eternal's mancubus
now dark ages mancubus weaker than 2016

[wheat sigil]

how'd they add in quick swaps tho

[mental grotto]

I feel this 100%

Very good way to put it

[cursive grotto]

I personally really like dark ages

I find it more fun than eternal

I just don't know why it keeps getting so many balance changes

I don't feel like i'm playing ''a new game'' as other people are putting it, but it throws me off a bit

[burnt finch]

I dont have a problem that dark ages getting content
it should get content but I dont think there should be balance changes cause it feels like live service game like new meta new
balance changes it doesnt need that let the player have fun let the player choose their playstyle
if someone wants a challange dont use super shotgun but if player wants to use let their use
dont nerf it, at least they changed again

The only problem was nerfing mancubus other than that the update is good

[drowsy aurora]

I think Mancubus were fine at launch, then made way too annoying in the previous update, so I'm kind of glad they got rolled back a bit.

[mental grotto]

No same, but the constant balancing changes make it feel a bit inconsistent, feels like I need to keep up with the game in a way

[drowsy aurora]

Eternal Mancubi die pretty pretty quickly in the midgame. They're only really a threat until you get chaingun

ANd in DOOM 2, they can be dispatched easily with SUper SHotty

[cursive grotto]

I think nerfing either their health or projectiles would've been fine

But they did both

Now they feel really weak

[cursive grotto]

Mancubi are honestly only a threat early on in eternal for me

[drowsy aurora]

I play the game at 150% speed, so maybe that's why I find them so annoying

[cursive grotto]

Cause their damage relative to your beginning HP is insane

You get 2 shot

Early game eternal is just really boring and frustrating to me in general

You die to a sneeze and have none of your fun stuff

I don't feel that way with dark ages

The game feels fun and powerful from the getgo

[drowsy aurora]

This might be a hot take, but I think TDA has better balancing than Eternal all around.

Even with the uncalled for Super Shotty nerf

[burnt finch]

I mean yes its not hard to kill
but the fireballs was so fast and deals so much damage and aoe
But it was balanced

[cursive grotto]

I'd disagree just because of how often balance changes are happening

[wheat sigil]

balance is important though

[cursive grotto]

It doesn't feel like the game itself is stable when you play one day, then 2 weeks later you play again and an interaction you know is completely different all of a sudden

[drowsy aurora]

I disagree tbh. Projectiles that move that fast and track that well are super annoying. Esp on Nightmare difficulty. That's the best movement Slayer had and it still felt like those shots were like missles.

Then again, I just genuinely do not like the Mancubus in any game he is in.

[cursive grotto]

He's actually pretty fun to combo later in eternal for me

Ssg soft falter > pb arm cannon break 1 for falter > ssg > pb arm cannon break 2 > ssg > dead

[wheat sigil]

are you talking about the eternal manc??

[drowsy aurora]

Yeah

[cursive grotto]

He's literally just stunlocked while you dish out damage

[wheat sigil]

eternal manc projectiles don't have any tracking, their damage is halved by destroying the arm cannon, and you get 2 free falters by destroying thr arm cannons too

the manc is never overpowered

or even close to it

[drowsy aurora]

Overpowered, no.
Annoying, Yes

[burnt finch]

Yes its important but everytime changing balances is feels like online live service game
bug fixes and content enough I think

If something is too easy then buff
if something too hard then nerf
but not everytime

[drowsy aurora]

Kind of like Revs and Cacos in this game.

[cursive grotto]

And i think the mancubus serves to teach the player a good habit of weakpoint breaking to ease long distance pressure and close up weakpoint breaks for keeping him in a falter state. Not only that, if you get too close, he's easily top 3 deadliest enemies in the game, so you get your shit kicked in if you're careless, which is what he should do. I literally never get tired of seeing mancubi in big fights

[drowsy aurora]

Cultist Base is just why I don't like them, and I'm pretty sure when I attempt UN there, I'm only going to hate them more because of that one cursed encounter

[cursive grotto]

He's in my opinion the most safe and essential enemy to include in big fights along with the arachnotron

[wheat sigil]

truth

[cursive grotto]

Yeah i hate cultist base

Mancubi there are so whack

[wheat sigil]

you can very easily kill a manc anf make him not a threat

you can also very easily avoid its projectiles

but, unless you destroy the weak points, they do deal high damage yea

[cursive grotto]

Yah

It wouldn't make sense for him to not deal high damage with fully functioning arm cannons now would it

That and close range falter locking are good incentives for you to actually target his cannons

[wheat sigil]

he's also not really a super big issue in cultist base

just use the blades to instea kill the mancs in the first encounter with them

[cursive grotto]

I just find that i can never dodge his fireballs in cultist base specifically and i don't know why

[wheat sigil]

then you get rhe rocket launcher, and you can kill them very easily

[cursive grotto]

I can do it easily later on but i get hit by like every single mancubus fireball in cultist base

[wheat sigil]

rocket->pb weak point->rocket->pb weak point->rocket, dead without being able to do anything

[cursive grotto]

You can also sub out the rocket for the ssg once you get it too

Assuming you're decently close to him of course

But you'd probably just want to stay safe and use rockets instead in cultist base

[wheat sigil]

you can use the mwb/heat blast to use the ssg in close range

or just do pb weak point->ssg close range->pb weak point->ssg, dead

[cursive grotto]

My cowardly cultist base strategy in ultra nightmare is "break weakpoints with pb, lob everything while running around like an idiot"

[cursive grotto]

This once accidentally made me dash into a mancubus and die cause i wasn't watching where i was going and just dashing backwards but we don't talk about that

[cursive grotto]

Microwave beam and remote detonation are my go to ways to handle cyber mancubi

Cause unlike grenades, you'll always have those 2 available to you

Microwave beam a cyber manc for a brief second, blood punch, ssg, dead

[long heath]

Manacubus are easy to kill

Frag grenade blood punch and a rocket

[cursive grotto]

I prefer saving my frags for small crowds or to combo super heavies

Cause again i just don't see why i would waste a frag to falter a cyber manc when a brief second of microwave beam achieves the same result and is always available

[wheat sigil]

this does not kill them

[long heath]

Wait what

[cursive grotto]

Especially cause the frag takes a little bit to explode aswell

[long heath]

I thought it killed them

[wheat sigil]

yup, also better to just use the mwb than an entire frag

[long heath]

I use them for falters

On the big demons

I haven't learnt how to use them perfectly but I'm getting there

I can't measure how many times ive died in the cultist base corridor on UN

With the manacubi

[cursive grotto]

Exactly

Why use an entire frag that you can instead save for comboing

[long heath]

I actually learnt the mwb tech right after I finished UN

So i couldn't really use it and had to rely on grenades

[cursive grotto]

Microwave beam is my favorite mod in the entire game tied with full auto

Not even joking

[long heath]

My favorite weapon mod is the meathook

I can just pair it with the ballista to zoom around the entire map

[cursive grotto]

I don't really know if i count the meathook as a mod

[wheat sigil]

just throw grenades here and there for arena control basically

[cursive grotto]

I consider it part of the base weapon

[long heath]

I mean it's a mod

[cursive grotto]

Not a seperate addition like the other mods

The game considers it a mod yeah

[long heath]

It functions the same way it's an alt fire and binded to the same button as any weapon mod and it has the same upgrade system

[cursive grotto]

I personally don't

It comes on arrival when you first pick up the ssg

[long heath]

If not that probably PB

[cursive grotto]

And it's so fundemental to the gun and general gameplay that it feels weird calling it a mod

[long heath]

Its saved a lot of my UN runs

Ice grenade and spam PB rockets to get your health back

[cursive grotto]

Wait why did this become eternal chat lmfao 😭

[long heath]

Let's go to eternal

[cursive grotto]

@wheat sigil go over there

[frank turtle]

cuz m1 has a crippling eternal addiction

[wheat sigil]

pfft

[deep umbra]

Doom the gay ages

[wheat sigil]

yas 💅

[lament lotus]

Ahzrak X Mace ship.
||I'm so glad they finally kissed at the end||

[sturdy crater]

I submitted a support ticket, but what I'm gathering is that the trophy glitch still isn't fixed, I got 2 repsonses:
Greetings!

Thank you for contacting Bethesda Customer Support.

My name is Alex and I will assist you in regards to the Melee Expert Milestone.

We are aware of an issue where the Melee Expert Milestone is not showing as complete for some players who have acquired all melee weapon upgrades, and not unlocking the corresponding achievement or trophy. This will be resolved in a future patch.

We thank you for your continued support and if you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask. We will be more than happy to assist you.

2nd response:

Greetings!

Thank you for contacting the Bethesda Customer Support Team. My name is Chase.

I understand you are contacting us regarding an issue with the Melee Expert Milestone in DOOM: The Dark Ages.

As of now, we are still investigating the issue for a fix in a future patch, we apologize for any and all inconvenience this causes you in your gameplay at this time.

If there is anything else we can do to assist you further please feel free to reach back out.

they said "as of now", so unless that is a copy and paste response (heck, it might be), they are still working on it

[alpine pilot]

Any ripatorium mashes suggestions that are nightmare-like difficult but not completely unbalanced?

[oak scaffold]

First time on doom eternal nearly at icon of sin should I save bfg ammo and tips anyone?

[obtuse oyster]

jesus fucking christ is anyone expecriencing issues with walking

it's like the slayer stops sprinting for a brief second

[drowsy pulsar]

Ripatorium enemy count bug is unfortunately still in existence. The game no longer crashes from this, but now whenever the game hitches like it used to do before crashing, all the enemies disappear and the Ripatorium is completely empty. What a weird bug this is, to survive a hotfix like that.

[carmine pilot]

Any ideas?

[green estuary]

Try just turning off tutorials

[vivid light]

The ssg is so back

[green estuary]

Too bad they nerfed the mancubus along with it

Now whiplashes are tankier than mancs for some reason

[topaz oasis]

guys

advice for Komodo?

I fear no demon, but that thing... it scares me

do I just shoot at it until it dies?

[drowsy pulsar]

Gotta keep him at a mid-range distance so he does his green attacks. Otherwise he's a tanky bastard

[topaz oasis]

I just hate it when he forgets he has green attacks and starts sprinting in your face to ram you with his big ass arm

[torn fox]

Komodos a bitch for sure

[topaz oasis]

well, I'm gonna have to improvise something

anyways. time to continue with the UN run

mission 10 here I go

[solemn mauve]

Rare moment when you don't ask 'where doom '

[upbeat junco]

Give him the my wife refused to give me my 7th cold beer combo

Hope for the graviton arm slam first cause that's one of his falters if parried

[topaz oasis]

Oh, it's a guaranteed falter if you parry that move?

[upbeat junco]

His spear horizontal slash has 2 variations, one falters if parried, one doesn't

[topaz oasis]

fuck

[upbeat junco]

and his spear charge attack doesn't falter upon parrying

I think his tail spin also falters

[upbeat junco]

yeah

[topaz oasis]

oh, nice, gotta remember that

that one is hard to parry tho

but thanks for the intel fam

[upbeat junco]

The spear slash where he does 2 in a row doesn't falter even if both are parried

the faltering slash has a subtle difference in his stance so watch for it

[topaz oasis]

he doesnt do anything else after the spear charge so I could go for a melee after parrying that one, couldnt I?

I'll take a moment to see what he does and how he reacts and then I'll go from there

[solemn mauve]

So you're having a difficult time with a Komodo? OK, this is my advice (works for me all the time) Use the Accelerator and back off, parry when you can otherwise just block. His fireballs can get in the way so just run away in case (remember you take less damage with your back turned). P.S. Make sure your accelerator is upgraded too.

[topaz oasis]

I just hope he doesnt guardcrush me

[topaz oasis]

this is what I've been doing so far and it kinda works, but man it takes time to kill him like this

I shoot him with the impaler tho, not the accelerator

[solemn mauve]

Ok, so you have it fully upgraded? The Accelerator?

[topaz oasis]

... I dunno which weapon is the accelerator

the first version of plasma rifle?

[solemn mauve]

The first plasma rifle you get in Hebeth

[topaz oasis]

oh yeah, I havent upgraded it at all, I prefer using the cycler tbh

[solemn mauve]

Cycler is good too, for crowd control. But for 1v1 and highest dps, it's always the Accelerator.

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1413583892308557866/image.png?ex=68bc7617&is=68bb2497&hm=4f07b2469a8644cc8abba9865bac12f6445ae201b9af83dd277a1c2aeeb2ba96& img on the left for the faltering slash (ty mayo)

[topaz oasis]

Hmm

I'll keep that in mind then

[topaz oasis]

oh man that's gonna be difficult to tell apart in the heat of combat

[upbeat junco]

can confirm

[solemn mauve]

I'll tell you this, the Accelerator will help you alot during the Azhrak fight again

[topaz oasis]

well, thanks for the advice fellas

[solemn mauve]

[topaz oasis]

let's see if I can make it to the komodo first

I'm on forsaken plains right now lol

[upbeat junco]

it also depends on which komodo you face 😇

[solemn mauve]

Lmao Im 2 levels ahead of you

[upbeat junco]

i think hitting three parries on a leader/champ komodo falters him

just like the cosmic baron

not 100% sure cause i save the ezmace for komodos and just eviscerate them the moment they spawn

why bother when i can just despawn him faster than he spawned in

[solar spoke]

Bit late but have patience with the Komodo, fully upgraded chainshot combined with the ravager makes mince of it so long as you're able to keep it at a reasonable distance and not let it charge you

[frank turtle]

love that level

[pearl patrol]

My favorite lvl is the dragon turoial one cause littrelly just ride a dragons and RIP AND TEAR!

[light summit]

Is the premium upgrade worth it?

I plan on purchasing the game once i finish the ancient gods pt 1 and 2

[green estuary]

well
I'd wait for the game to go on sale
even though it's probably my favorite in my steam library its got a pretty steep price, especially for the premium version

before quakecon the game was around 52 bucks or so which is way better than the normal 70

[light summit]

yeah, I might wait for the fall or winter sale and pick all of those up

[green estuary]

although I hope you didn't pay full price for the ancient gods dlcs

[light summit]

I havent purchased them yet

[green estuary]

ah
well I wouldn't really recommend buying them for 20 bucks each either
eternal is a good value at 40 but the dlcs don't have anywhere near the same amount of content for the same price

[light summit]

yeah, It did feel like i paid way more than 10 dollars when I got it

[solar cairn]

Judging by the frequency, the next patch is in mid-October

Of course, Ripatorium lacks different chips

Randomizer would be..

[gusty jungle]

https://youtu.be/d03AEZA3wrQ?feature=shared

[solar spoke]

went back to UAC Atlantica in Eternal and it honestly makes sense that that massive sea monster at the bottom is a cosmic realm creature now lol

[frail bloom]

Hello I'm back

What did Hugo say I stopped after 40 min in

And I kinda forgor

What do we think of update 2.1

[solar spoke]

well the chat effectively gaslit him and Joshua into thinking there was a Daisy EE at the end of the Marshes lol. The new update is good, feeling pretty fluid. They're pretty much done tuning the game until the DLC releases

[frail bloom]

Lol

Sounds cool but I'm not exactly playing yet

I'm waiting for new stuff

Is it me or is the dlc gonna release before the master levels?

Bc hugo didn't mention master levels at all

You'd think he'd mention it first

What did he say abt dlc, can be anything

[hearty edge]

i like the fact that the super shotgun is usable now

[frail bloom]

Kinda funny tho I'm seeing ppl say it's too strong now

[solid nacelle]

That it's fun and the puzzles in it are really good

[solar spoke]

Yeah I like where it is now too

[hearty edge]

but i have gone way too far into the impaler rabbit hole

[frail bloom]

Oh but they're not exactly done with the levels yet tho right, without the bug testing and all of that

[solar spoke]

I don't know yet, they're doing another stream next week so they could talk more about it then

[frail bloom]

They still have a ton of stuff to do maybe they finished the first 2 or 3 levels or smt

[solid nacelle]

Yeah no its still very early on. He did also say that they were going to "advance the story in ways people have been asking for" or something like that

[frail bloom]

I guess it won't be boring then

That's what I want

I like it but I wanted to laugh a little more

So serious all the time

Also btw are they making community presets IN dark ages or in the discord

[solid nacelle]

Within dark ages

[solar spoke]

tbf the game as it is is quite large. Eternal had 13 levels and Battlemode so there was wiggle room for a master level or 2 at launch. DA has 22 levels and got Ripatorium 3 months after launch so it could be taking a little longer

[frail bloom]

Aw cool

[solid nacelle]

It can be done within the console or something he said

[hearty edge]

wait what holy peak https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161412575788007574/1413674082922401914/image.png?ex=68bcca16&is=68bb7896&hm=10949ea60336aac0e048999bd2d6237297e3094aa49a27c947e62f0b147c69d8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=955&height=58

[frail bloom]

That's really awesome

[upbeat junco]

Yeah it's so good

[frail bloom]

And I guess it's gonna have other stuff too

Like customizable waves

More arenas

Or at least I can customize the enemy count better

What if I want 60 hell knights

Gimme the option

[solar spoke]

damn, ready for them to crash your console/PC when they all ground slam at once lol

[brave spoke]

Just finished ultra nightmare let’s go

[frail bloom]

I mean I can understand that but y'know I'd rather they make some master levels and learn from the process so it goes into the dlc

[solar spoke]

fair

[frail bloom]

No no my ps5 is goated trust

[hearty edge]

oh so ts was a bug it happened to me a lot https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161412575788007574/1413674721165316096/image.png?ex=68bccaae&is=68bb792e&hm=d671ff2060f2e34cf937886ab5912cef709c399ebeaf134f2c36791f580ddc82&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=874&height=25

[frail bloom]

Have you seen the dev menu

The SP NG+ thing

[solar spoke]

yep, I miss playing on console sometimes because customising graphics settings is a pain. Still using my trusty dualsene though

[frail bloom]

But ye at least allow the option

And if it goes bad it goes bad

But ye I ain't playing till they add some new stuff

[solar spoke]

Imagine the option if they ever port to Switch 2...

[hearty edge]

imagine 60 cosmic barons at the same time

[frail bloom]

It would be awesome

[hearty edge]

i dont think the ripartorium would even work if they port it

at least with the 60 demons maxed

[frail bloom]

Well they can limit it then

Sadly

Would be a worse product but

Idk does it need to be there

[solar spoke]

Id are technical wizards, they'll find a way somehow lol

though Elden Ring doesn't bode well if that's any indication

[cedar ingot]

i just realized serious sam 4 is better than dark ages, more hordes and more harder, each enemy can two shot me, meaning i have to react very fast, very sweaty, in fact more sweaty than all doom games,

[solid nacelle]

You can make dark ages sweaty also

[cedar ingot]

max speed is still not as sweaty as serious sam 4

serious sam 4 survival mode throws a clusterfxck billions of enemies to you and each individual can either 2 or 5 shot you to death that you have to sweat real damn hard i even asked myself is this a joke and i like it

[solid nacelle]

You do know there's more to the sliders than just bumping up max game speed right

[cedar ingot]

yes i also included that its still not as sweaty as 4

serious sam 4 is a more and an absolute sweatfest

[solid nacelle]

Ok you have fun with that

[frail bloom]

Ye have fun with that or smt

Weird but ok

[cedar ingot]

just saying i dont sweat in dark ages as much in serious sam 4

[stoic forge]

Can we talk about how there needs to be an asterisk next to that whole “stand and fight” instruction?

[frail bloom]

Well good for you cool you can find something to enjoy

Idk the phrase "I just realized" just sounds weird tho like when was this an epiphany or smt

[green estuary]

I mean you obviously can't beat the game by standing still

[frail bloom]

But yeah hope you have fun man

Serious sam is goated for sure

[frail bloom]

Is this serious

sigh

[frail bloom]

Hey how does the ssg feel for you now are you still using that mod

Y'know you can melee and interrupt an ssg reload too

Genuinely sounds fun

I mean for update 2.1, is it better than the mod you use

[daring terrace]

I’m such a fucking hard ass. I refuse to use a single fucking extra life, but this goddamn level is testing my patient hell even if I save up the extra lives, they just disappear if I don’t play the game after a day or two

[green estuary]

nah I stopped using it because they reverted all the nerfs
and obviously the block/melee is very smooth
the armor break falter with the ssg is pretty huge as well

[frail bloom]

Sweet that sounds awesome

[warm ibex]

melting armored mancs has never felt better

glad they don't take like four SSG shots anymore

[green estuary]

imo they should have kept the mancubus HP buff
the removal of the ssg damage mitigation against them was enough

[frail bloom]

Didn't you say you like them as soft and squishy targets

Or was that someone else

Idk they do one thing and then ppl don't like it they should do polls or smt instead of their goofy data

Erm the data says

Nah do a poll

But hey it ain't no marauder dog glitch

I hate that one

But seriously it's kinda annoying to see ppl switch up all the time(not saying you Katsu) so it makes the process of trying to balance things really hard

Ok imma post an animation snippet I'm getting there

#videos message

It has to be like 5 min total

I got like 1 min 34 sec total so it's moving along slowly

[topaz oasis]

OMG

I did it!

completed UN without using BFC and doing all the combat challenges

[river eagle]

[green estuary]

that was someone else
mancs are supposed to be the big tanky bruisers, but they don't feel that tanky right now
plus extra health gives me a better ricochet target

[frail bloom]

Ye ok so it was someone else

[green estuary]

I thought the manc health buff was a good idea, but I didn't like the ssg damage mitigation against it

along with the armor damage nerf, it made the ssg feel like a peashooter against armored mancs especially

[drowsy aurora]

Super Shotty has been getting me through Pandemonium now. I love it.

[warm ibex]

tbf I feel like the solution is "add more demons" and not necessarily to give individual demons more health

TDA's whole thing is armies of demons but they don't take advantage of that as often as they should imo

[solid nacelle]

Very much this

[drowsy aurora]

It's shredding through everything like it should. Shield Bash + SSG shot is such a nutty combo.

[green estuary]

sure, but certain demons feel weird in terms of how tanky they are
like the whiplash, especially when buffed has a suspiciously large health pool, but mancs on the other hand don't feel spongy at all

[scenic lichen]

I agree with you, I disagree with every manc revert besides the shotgun mitigation

Mancs rn just don’t feel threatening enough

On my 75% DMG to demons playthrough they’re done with two blasts of the default SSG

All the mancubus needed was the removal of his SSG resistance

[green estuary]

that's funny, because it takes at least 2 point blank ssg shots to kill a manc at 100% damage

[scenic lichen]

yeah imo they shouldn’t be that squishy

I get it they’re not made of steel and they’re just blobs of meat at the end of the day but I found update 2 mancs really fun to fight aside from the SSG being bad

They felt a lot more like the classic doom ones

With huge and fast projectiles

[solid nacelle]

Was anybody even complaining about the projectile changes? I thought that one was perfectly fine

[warm ibex]

That is a good point

although I think the whiplash needs a health nerf if anything

[green estuary]

yeah it probably does

[drowsy aurora]

I don't mind Mancus being weak

But that's because they can make other encounters really toxic if they shoot at juuuust the right time.

ABout lost a life today during my pandemonium run because I had one spam its barrage fire while I was handling a Cyberdemon

As long as SSG stays this powerful for the rest of the game, I'll be fine with whatever they do though. Sweats be damned!

[topaz oasis]

Mancubus?

More like Man, cute boobs

sorry, I had to say it

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

[wheat sigil]

i support this

wait no

i don't, i misinterpreted

[vagrant path]

what if the mancubus was womancubus

[hearty edge]

what

[hearty edge]

what

bro this one so fun

i'm not even that good at the game yet feels super balanced

also the heaven splitter rune is just the best one for ripartorium no questions asked

[wheat sigil]

i don't😭

[hearty edge]

too late it's recorded in history now

[torpid stump]

Hey i got a quick question. Is there something i need to do to obtain life sigils? I will walk into them and nothing will happen. You can walk into any other obtainable item and it gives you it, except life sigils.

[warm ibex]

There is a limit to how many you can hold. The default is three but you can lower it in the settings

If you don't have any and still can't pick them up, take a look in the options and make sure you didn't accidentally lower your maximum capacity

[frank turtle]

hi chat

[wheat sigil]

hi

[frank turtle]

have u beaten tda yet m1?

[wheat sigil]

uhm

i'm on the grind

might beat it this weekend if eternal, school, and whatever the hell else i wanna do doesn't take priority

[frank turtle]

nice

I took a break when the ssg was broken

[wheat sigil]

same here yeah

[upbeat junco]

same 🥀

now im rustier than an Opel but at least the super shotgun is super shotgunning

[wheat sigil]

how the hell did i only get 5/153 gold😭

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/james-candy-family-guy-trap-gif-7655570

collecting gold in tda

[wheat sigil]

yuup

[harsh egret]

Lmao so good

[merry sapphire]

yeah sure man

[frail slate]

Does the resource value slider affect how much you heal yourself with the rocket launcher self heal? Also Does Blood Sacrafice upgrade (increased splash damage with rocket launcher) increase the heal you get?

[green estuary]

I don't believe the resource value slider affects the healing, as it's tied to the rocket's splash damage, though I haven't tested that
but yes, blood sacrifice rockets heal you significantly more than regular ones do--regular rockets heal you by around 11 HP but blood sacrifice rockets heal you by 17-18, which makes sense because a normal face rocket deals 50 damage to you but a blood sacrifice rocket deals 75
and this applies to parry charged rockets as well--the cooked upgrade doesn't actually increase the rocket's splash damage, only its direct impact damage, so the healing is the same there as with a normal un-cooked rocket

just one more reason why blood sacrifice is the better upgrade

[frail bloom]

Hey is the melee slowdown slider still only on 100% speed

Instead of being tied to the game speed slider like the kaibz mod does

[frail bloom]

No not really if you can just aim your shot better

I'm not saying blood sacrifice is worse but I'm sticking with parry rocket

[green estuary]

parry charged is obviously better for particular enemies
but blood sacrifice just decimates everything consistently

[frail bloom]

Is blood sacrifice gained by melee parrying or projectile parrying

[green estuary]

blood sacrifice has increased splash damage 100% of the time

doesn't require a parry

[frail bloom]

Oh so it just exists

[green estuary]

yeah it's just a straight upgrade

[frail bloom]

Ok well I guess I can try it

[uneven mortar]

I missed a wraithstone, do I really have to do Spire of Nerathul all over again?

I can't just pick it up and exit

[green estuary]

yeah the wraithstones are in special locations only accessible with serrat

one at the top of the spire and the other one through a passage at the bottom

[uneven mortar]

Man

Those dragon sections really are the weak link

I don't mind the gameplay but expecting me to actually find secrets with serrat, especially on replays, is just abysmal

[green estuary]

well both areas appear in the automap
they're no different than other secret areas that can't be accessed once you pass a point of no return

[uneven mortar]

The map is borderline useless

[green estuary]

🤨

[uneven mortar]

It has icons that appear and disappear without a clear language in the serrat bits

Like the two arrows seem to apply to stuff that's inside infrastructure and there isn't a clear difference between story progress vs secret

[green estuary]

every landing zone is marked, and the marking changes once you visit them

it's fairly simple

the ones that aren't required aren't marked by the waypoint diamond

[uneven mortar]

Idk, it doesn't seem intuitive to me even on replays