atp no modern games can run on your pc like battlefield 6
#the-dark-ages
narrow pollen
plush laurel
i barely ran cyberpunk
plush laurel
im only fixated on very specific series and dont play anything else but those
frank turtle
xbox series s with a keyboard plugged in and ur ready to go
narrow pollen
im only fixated on very specific series and dont play anything else but those
Just try smt new at least
silent surge
lead engine guy billy khan said it wouldāve taken years longer to make without rtx
to run eternal, you needed a 5 year old card at the time. for dark ages, a 7 year
naive wigeon
switch 2 just got indiana jones so i reckon that tda might come too
silent surge
would be nice if it ran on other gear though
plush laurel
lead engine guy billy khan said it wouldāve taken years longer to make without r...
maybe they could work on an update
narrow pollen
switch 2 just got indiana jones so i reckon that tda might come too
Maybe, but it won't run smoothly I bet
plush laurel
or a different version of it
naive wigeon
Maybe, but it won't run smoothly I bet
weāll have to see how indiana jones runs
u never know
narrow pollen
weāll have to see how indiana jones runs
Alrighty
naive wigeon
u used to be able to bypass the rt lock and have the game run with raytraced lights turned off
but i think they patched it
exotic jetty
u used to be able to bypass the rt lock and have the game run with raytraced lig...
W name
naive wigeon
6gb below vram would have a big portion of the rt lighting turned off which caused weird lighting bugs and pitch black areas
plush laurel
but i think they patched it
so they broke the only way i could play and called it a patch
lunar spire
so they broke the only way i could play and called it a patch
Sounds like it's time to upgrade
Also I'd like to note that the game runs beautifully on lower end of what the game can run on. I was at 60 fps on low settings and the game still looked beautiful
But this is also beating a dead horse as I think I've said this 4 times now
To note, I have a 3050 rtx
solid nacelle
Well looks like Monday's gonna be the day then huh fellas
silent surge
so they broke the only way i could play and called it a patch
downpatch if on pc
silent surge
Also I'd like to note that the game runs beautifully on lower end of what the ga...
dooms great on low
hearty edge
did they eliminate an aggadon hunter in sentinel command station or am i misremembering
solid nacelle
I think he only appears once where the wraith stone is
hearty edge
ohh i thought he appeared in the secret key room
solar spoke
did they eliminate an aggadon hunter in sentinel command station or am i misreme...
There's just the one that spawns in on the wraithstone and it's still there
hearty edge
ah that's why it's literally right there
alr i killed him
idk why i thought he was a leader
damnit i missed a crystal thing
ruby*
plush laurel
is it true that there arent glory kills in dark ages?
warm ibex
look like two messages up and you'll answer your own question
plush laurel
thats why i asked š
warm ibex
lol
plush laurel
i ve heard there are some kind of executions but not in the glory kills style
warm ibex
TDA has Glory Strikes and Glory Kills. Glory Strikes are unsynced executions performed by using a melee strike on a staggered demon. They don't lock you in an animation and improve the general flow of combat since you'll often encounter larger groups of demons in a stagger state
foggy breach
didn't even know the cacodemon had that animation, pretty neat
warm ibex
TDA has Glory Strikes and Glory Kills. Glory Strikes are unsynced executions per...
Glory Kills are activated by jumping while initiating the final blow. They're relatively fast and often not very complex, but they're still the traditional Glory Kills everyone loves
warm ibex
didn't even know the cacodemon had that animation, pretty neat
That was captured by a doomtuber named Gougaru, I believe he was only able to trigger it by increasing the jump height by 3.5
very difficult to pull off naturally!
upbeat junco
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274368849495720017/1408555240030212226/w...
the fuckstick deserved it
flying tank
hearty edge
is it true that there arent glory kills in dark ages?
sort of
there's the death from above glory kills that appear when you execute a demon while jumping and looking down
then there's glory strikes that can appear on cyberdemons or other guys to weakn their attacks
then there's executions that are just punching a staggered demon really hard and give the same loot as glory kills
harsh egret
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274368849495720017/1408555240030212226/w...
do u have to be at a certain height above the caco for the animation to play?
cuz i always try to get the finishers but i like literally never manage to get them
warm ibex
a buddy of mine gougaru was only able to activate it with 3.5 jump height
hearty edge
why bother
warm ibex
a buddy of mine gougaru was only able to activate it with 3.5 jump height
you need to be pretty far above it, which is next to impossible to do naturally. I'd say you could probably get it to trigger during the secret gore nest encounter on City of Ryuul if you got the Caco into gk state before jumping down to the platform
that's the only place I can think of (off the top of my head) that has a platform higher than a Caco
warm ibex
agreed lol
hearty edge
that's the only place I can think of (off the top of my head) that has a platfor...
you might be able to get it in the 1st belly of the beast encounter on the armored arachnotron enforcer balcony but idk
silent surge
just meathook up and -
exotic jetty
just meathook up and -
Very funny
silent surge
you need to be pretty far above it, which is next to impossible to do naturally....
thereās a secret area in harbor past the spiral staircase, before the red door (near the 3 cyber secret), with a lost soul and caco. run by the caco, shield hook up, then youāre up high
warm ibex
thereās a secret area in harbor past the spiral staircase, before the red door (...
Ah there we go! Good thinking
silent surge
doom the dad ages
warm ibex
you might be able to get it in the 1st belly of the beast encounter on the armor...
Good thinking too
burnt patrol
Do we have stats for the demons and weapons in the dark ages ?
narrow pollen
Dude...
narrow pollen
Do we have stats for the demons and weapons in the dark ages ?
I wrote a whole ass stats for this guy yet it said no spamming
gleaming vortex
oooof that sucks man
narrow pollen
like what am I supposed to do atp
gleaming vortex
also hello doom chat itās been awhile
narrow pollen
also hello doom chat itās been awhile
Welcome back
burnt patrol
I wrote a whole ass stats for this guy yet it said no spamming
That's stupid... But thanks for trying. Do we have a google sheets compiling these stats like for eternal ?
narrow pollen
That's stupid... But thanks for trying. Do we have a google sheets compiling the...
I already have the stats written for my friend like some days ago in dm, but when I tried to post the half of it here, vega appeared and said no spamming, and no there's no google sheet about it
burnt patrol
Can you send a screenshot ?
frank turtle
I had a dream that they added the marauder to tda and he carried a dreadmace and a shield
burnt patrol
Maybe in the DLC
hearty edge
I had a dream that they added the marauder to tda and he carried a dreadmace and...
dont
frank turtle
hearty edge
Maybe in the DLC
and marauders are supposed to be dead night sentinels brought back to life so unless the dlc is about the sentinel war i dont think they would fit
frank turtle
in the dream he was way easier to kill than eternal ones
but they only appeared on ultra nightmare
hearty edge
how tf do you even dream allat
frank turtle
dude idek
burnt patrol
and marauders are supposed to be dead night sentinels brought back to life so un...
Indeed. Maybe in the next one ? Hugo talked about a trilogy with Dark ages being the first.
frank turtle
my medicine gives me really vivid dreams
hearty edge
well i guess today i dreamed i was playing doom eternal tag 1 so idk
the weird thing is i had it in my library but not base eternal nor tag 2
hearty edge
Indeed. Maybe in the next one ? Hugo talked about a trilogy with Dark ages being...
cool
hearty edge
also sometimes my dreams make me think they are real
frank turtle
$50m ost budget
hearty edge
like when i woke up i thought that i had tag 1 in my library
frank turtle
also sometimes my dreams make me think they are real
yeah that doom one I had felt really real
hearty edge
and then one time i dreamt i fought ahzrak before actually getting to ahzrak
frank turtle
would ahzrak work in the ripatorium 
hearty edge
what
frank turtle
like if they just added the mf
hearty edge
ahzrak with 3 barons and 2 cyberdemons
frank turtle
exactly
harsh egret
and a witch
frank turtle
that'd be fire
hearty edge
i kinda see how that would play out
subtle heart
Lol they're both me, i have 2 accounts for some reason but this one (the one i'm replying with) is the good one š
silent surge
aha! thank ya
frail bloom
Ah hah
Seems like it's monday then
I wanna know why it's taking so long, like they can talk abt some problems they ran into while fixing it
Marketing and all of that
Very funny gif btw Horde mode
I saved it cuz it was genius
hearty edge
yea its over
frail bloom
Joeover for you
harsh egret
unique cosmos
Yee
upbeat oracle
i killed a demon in doom
sleek verge
i killed a demon in doom
Who hasnt
upbeat oracle
i killed 2 demons in doom
hearty edge
Who hasnt
i have not yet killed a demon in doom 3
mostly bc i have not yet opened doom 3
sleek verge
i have not yet killed a demon in doom 3
And you call yourself the slayer?
topaz oasis
what do you guys think of enhanced azhrak?
I feel like he is the boss that Davoth was supposed be in the DLC of eternal lmao
really cool fight
unreal terrace
All of the dark ages bosses are so good
topaz oasis
well the thing that kinda disappointed me about the bosses was that there really arent that many of them?
upbeat oracle
what do you guys think of enhanced azhrak?
i think he is not alive
topaz oasis
All of the dark ages bosses are so good
do you count demon leaders as bosses?
I honestly dont, those are just heavy demons with a larger health pool
frail bloom
well the thing that kinda disappointed me about the bosses was that there really...
Well there were 4 bosses like eternal with 3 minibosses
wooden dock
no ssg patch? š
topaz oasis
Well there were 4 bosses like eternal with 3 minibosses
yeah, I was expecting to have a unique boss at the end of every mission for this game
frail bloom
yeah, I was expecting to have a unique boss at the end of every mission for this...
So 22 missions
topaz oasis
a shame really š
frail bloom
22 bosses
topaz oasis
yeh
frail bloom
Right...
solid nacelle
Yeah I'm sure they have the time and budget for that
topaz oasis
I mean, that's kind of the norm for any action game nowadays?
look at games like god of war, nioh, ninja gaiden
you have a boss at the end of every mission in those
I don't know why id software hasnt adopted this approach for doom yet
hearty edge
what do you guys think of enhanced azhrak?
best boss in doom imo
solid nacelle
I just wish his parry indicator wasn't so goofy
Sometimes his spear will light up but wait a second before attacking, other times it's just instant. The 2nd and especially the 3rd phases are a little ridiculous in that regard I think
topaz oasis
Sometimes his spear will light up but wait a second before attacking, other time...
oh yeah, I know what you mean
he has two attacks that look very similar
but one is super delayed and the other one is almost instantaneous
it's really annoying to deal with stuff like that
short mountain
I feel like he is the boss that Davoth was supposed be in the DLC of eternal lma...
davoth probably wouldve been a lot cooler had they not have like 5 months to make tag 2
hearty edge
yea they should have really took their time to make tag
tag 1 i do like a lot but tag 2 is rough
it should have been another game imo
solid nacelle
Yeah guys we're going to introduce and also conclude the dark lord saga in a 3 mission dlc
It's just the dark lord it's no big deal
topaz oasis
yeah they did my boy davoth dirty with TAG
specially TAG 2
lots of wasted potential there
he would've been a great villain had he had his own game
frank turtle
true
green estuary
look at games like god of war, nioh, ninja gaiden
oh yeah, like how god of war reuses a reskinned variant of the same troll for half of the boss fights
doom doesn't really do bosses that often, which is a good thing, because the base gameplay is what makes the games great
imo eternal actually could have done with less bosses
khan maykr, icon of sin, maligog's boxes, samur, and the dark lord were all not great
frail bloom
I don't think it's amount it's just execution
I guess it was part of the mechanics in the first place
summer temple
Iām needing advice on wtf Iām supposed to do with the gameplay of dark ages. I feel like Iām doing everything the game is asking of me yet Iām still getting my ass kicked. Iām able to play the other doom games fine but with the gameplay of this one I cannot figure out what Iām doing wrong
frail bloom
Hard to make great bosses
frail bloom
Iām needing advice on wtf Iām supposed to do with the gameplay of dark ages. I f...
Well for starters you can block with your shield. No I'm not joking, ppl tend to forget that they can also block and not just parry
Another thing to know is that your shield bash is very good at...
Closing the distance for any executions
Traversing the map through enemies
Your shield throw is good for locking enemies in place, like your ice bomb in eternal
I have a cousin who's exactly like this
topaz oasis
Iām needing advice on wtf Iām supposed to do with the gameplay of dark ages. I f...
what difficulty you playing on?
frail bloom
He's very good at the last two but struggles with tda
summer temple
what difficulty you playing on?
Hurt me plenty, difficulty I usually play on
elfin pendant
Lore Nerd & Melee expert bugged for me I think. Damn those are the last two I need for Platinum.
Hopefully a fix comes soon.
About to replay 2016 though havenāt played since 2016 š
elfin pendant
I know Iāve finished it before and loved it but I havenāt played in a while.
Just annoyed about bugged trophies in dark ages even though I had a blast
hearty edge
khan maykr, icon of sin, maligog's boxes, samur, and the dark lord were all not ...
bro just listed every boss except the gladiator
which to be fair is the best boss
great even
green estuary
bro just listed every boss except the gladiator
Thatās cuz theyāre all not very good except for the gladiator and the doom hunters
elfin pendant
I wonāt say it was better then eternal but it was certainly less frustrating in terms of difficulty
green estuary
Bosses were easily the worst aspect of eternal
And itās not close
hearty edge
Thatās cuz theyāre all not very good except for the gladiator and the doom hunte...
ah yea the doom hunters forgot about them
yea the doom hunters were very fun
hearty edge
Bosses were easily the worst aspect of eternal
And itās not close
certainly
although i do like the icon of sin bossfight i admit it can be very frustrating
maligog is just whatever
elfin pendant
The first DLCs last boss was so annoying to the point it wasnāt fun
hearty edge
khan was dissapointing
elfin pendant
Just grindy
hearty edge
Iām needing advice on wtf Iām supposed to do with the gameplay of dark ages. I f...
blok wit te shild and kill the the enemies
jk
summer temple
Your shield throw is good for locking enemies in place, like your ice bomb in et...
Iām familiar with the shield tech. Iām having difficulty with the movement in this one, something about my approach to it is causing enemies to either swarm me or attack me from behind. All without mentioning the aracnotron and Komodo which are two examples of enemies Iām unsure how to approach so I just try to kill them as fast as possible (with varied results)
hearty edge
also something i found is that if you are under pressure and lack health don't go looking around for health packs and instead keep fighting the enemies, gget ur melees and everything and you will eventually get ur health back
hearty edge
Iām familiar with the shield tech. Iām having difficulty with the movement in th...
i admit the arachnotron is frustrating and the komodo can be very difficult
frail bloom
Iām familiar with the shield tech. Iām having difficulty with the movement in th...
Trying to get certain enemies off the board is part of the game more so than eternal
hearty edge
a good way to take out the arachnotrons is shield bash to ssg which puts them staggered
frail bloom
A lot of pressure sniper units are dispatched by a shield bash
Plus some heavy hitting weapon
Or like I said, shield throw to stun them so they don't do anything
hearty edge
and for superheavies the accelerator and cycler r great
frail bloom
For the komodo, I would use faster weapons
Because he move a lit and wiggles
Cycler, shredder, accelerator, ravager are good examples
hearty edge
i'd personally go with the accelerator there
frail bloom
And no, the ssg is not better than all the other weapons
It depends on your preference and your skills
Some can shred with the shredder(no pun intended) and others have no idea how to use it well
exotic jetty
I like ssg cuz it slow and powefull
frail bloom
Right
hearty edge
oh btw is the ssg fixed yet
summer temple
My most used weapon is the reaver
frail bloom
oh btw is the ssg fixed yet
No I don't think so
hearty edge
My most used weapon is the reaver
yea its good
hearty edge
No I don't think so
sad
hearty edge
if not i'm uninstalling
jk
frail bloom
Like imma have 10% less respect
summer temple
oh btw is the ssg fixed yet
Is there something up with it?
hearty edge
if not i'm uninstalling
jk
wouldnt wanna reinstall 84gb
hearty edge
Is there something up with it?
yeah now it doesnt let you block/parry while reloading which is especially bad against barons and cyberdemons
and just generally unpractical
frail bloom
Ye that
real crater
wouldnt wanna reinstall 84gb
84 gb for a single player game is outrageous but its doom so its forgiven
exotic jetty
yeah now it doesnt let you block/parry while reloading which is especially bad a...
I don't have that problem
frail bloom
84 gb for a single player game is outrageous but its doom so its forgiven
A very big singleplayer game
With huge maps and enemy counts
hearty edge
yeah now it doesnt let you block/parry while reloading which is especially bad a...
i have already built the muscle memory to block after firing most of the time so it feels weird
summer temple
yeah now it doesnt let you block/parry while reloading which is especially bad a...
Ohhh, yeah it was fine on release, whyād they change it
hearty edge
With huge maps and enemy counts
and a customizable horde
frail bloom
Ohhh, yeah it was fine on release, whyād they change it
It's a bug
hearty edge
Ohhh, yeah it was fine on release, whyād they change it
unintentional
frail bloom
and a customizable horde
And it's gonna get a lot more updates
exotic jetty
And it's gonna get a lot more updates
W
hearty edge
They better spill the beans next thursday
no i dont wanna clean the counter
exotic jetty
frail bloom
They better spill the tea
exotic jetty
My beansā¹ļø
hearty edge
-100 aura
frail bloom
I want dlc concept art
exotic jetty
He dropped my beans
hearty edge
still -100 aura for not properly taking care of the beans
exotic jetty
He stole them
real crater
still -100 aura for not properly taking care of the beans
thats on him for wearing mittens to carry the pot
i understand the pot is hot but thats what the handles are for
smh
hearty edge
if its still hot just use a drape
frail bloom
Why eat beans in the first place smh
summer temple
i understand the pot is hot but thats what the handles are for
People āļø
frail bloom
So much beans for no reason
exotic jetty
Why eat beans in the first place smh
Cuz it yum
exotic jetty
I like my beans
real crater
So much beans for no reason
hes a little plus sized
frail bloom
hes a little plus sized
So I've noticed
He gonna lose all that weight in the bathroom after
Sharting for daaayys
exotic jetty
No
real crater
Sharting for daaayys
imagine if he put hot sauce in it
frail bloom
See if there was a stream yesterday we would be talking abt cool stuff
exotic jetty
imagine if he put hot sauce in it
Tasty
frail bloom
But we're talking abt eating beans with hot sauce and sharting
summer temple
Burn a hole through the floor
exotic jetty
But we're talking abt eating beans with hot sauce and sharting
Sharting gross beans and hotsuace yum
hearty edge
He stole them
still -100 aura for losing beans to brother
exotic jetty
still -100 aura for losing beans to brother
He ate them and he died
real crater
actully +100 aura because all that bean juice is gonna be stuck in the carpet
real crater
actully +100 aura because all that bean juice is gonna be stuck in the carpet
and itll smell like beans for a week
exotic jetty
actully +100 aura because all that bean juice is gonna be stuck in the carpet
And my mum dead spirit gonna beat his ass like it's good old days
frail bloom
I think it was cuz Josh was in another state
It just didn't feel like working
No clue how these things go
real crater
what is the god damn hold up mr sobel
frail bloom
Nope
real crater
that gif showed up jus fine
frank turtle
is it fixed yet
frail bloom
is it fixed yet
Nope
frank turtle
summer temple
https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-slayer-bfg-mars-gif-27375266
Oh nevermind, it just didnāt show for a minute
exotic jetty
bruh this ssg bug is eternal
Guess we're in the dark ages
frail bloom
summer temple
Punā¦
exotic jetty
https://tenor.com/view/laughing-funny-gif-20363272
It's not that funny bro
exotic jetty
Nope it's meant to be dumb that's its purpose
solid nacelle
Well that just happened
summer temple
Indeed
frail bloom
Well that just happened
What
I have literally nothing to add in anything
This chat is dead for long periods of time
We talked abt beans and toilet destruction
frail bloom
*Not even a scratch in the unmatched amount of Aura I hold*
Alr I'm gonna stop posting meme gifs before I get vaporized
Ppl
Any presets you have made?
For ripatorium
exotic jetty
No I just kill demon
hearty edge
i have not yet killed a demon in doom 3
i have now killed a demon in doom 3
frail bloom
Well I tried
exotic jetty
i have now killed a demon in doom 3
Long intro:)
exotic jetty
Correct
hearty edge
i can now say i have both killed a demon and died in all commercial doom games
except doom 3 bfg we dont talk about doom 3 bfg
hearty edge
bad
summer temple
i have now killed a demon in doom 3
Congratulations
frank turtle
I'm just gonna take a break from tda until they fix the ssg
frail bloom
I'm just gonna take a break from tda until they fix the ssg
Ofc
No one is telling you otherwise
Have a good break
real crater
I'm just gonna take a break from tda until they fix the ssg
i took one regardless of the super shotgun ngl
i played too much of the game nd it just became stale
elfin pendant
Thank god thereās no multiplayer trophies in TDA
Iāve got all the eternal ones besides the multiplayer
grave cave
Got the silver DOOM II floppy disk today!
elfin pendant
So in the modern reboots of doom,is the timeline TDA-2016-Eternal?
real crater
So in the modern reboots of doom,is the timeline TDA-2016-Eternal?
yes but there is a very large gap between tda and 2016
elfin pendant
yes but there is a very large gap between tda and 2016
Thought so
Do we have any idea on how the slayer ended up on mars in a coffin?
real crater
Do we have any idea on how the slayer ended up on mars in a coffin?
the coffin was originally in hell but sam hayden led an expedition and found it so he brought it back to the mars facility
he was originally put in the coffin by one of the hell priests
elfin pendant
Ah cool
Iām not very good with my doom lore
Glory killing demons funi reading is for nerds
Iām more a fallout and TES lore nerd
real crater
Glory killing demons funi reading is for nerds
sometimes you wannna know why things are the way they are
doom eternal especially the story requires decent lore knowledge to understand
fully understand at least
hard thistle
this stupid game is 116 dollars AUD
don't gotta buy it
real crater
how would you know that the khan maykr is supposed to be switched out every 10 thousand years but the same khan maykr has been in charge for billions of years if you didnt read the codex
elfin pendant
how would you know that the khan maykr is supposed to be switched out every 10 t...
Not gonna lie I barely pay attention to the story of doom games I just like turning demons into confetti
Iāll read the lore on the wiki if I feel like it
I collect all codex but never read it
real crater
Not gonna lie I barely pay attention to the story of doom games I just like turn...
thats fair i used to be the same way
its not required that you know the lore at all because the gameplay is still awesome
neon perch
I just realized something.
There is virtually no reason Doomguy couldn't just main melee forever.
It's not like each melee weapon is charge dependant. It's a gauntlet, a flail, and a spiked mace. The chainsaw runs on gas which makes it being a one-time use weapon plausible. What's keeping him from just spamming the flail on every enemy?
real crater
It's not like each melee weapon is charge dependant. It's a gauntlet, a flail, a...
his affinity for guns is apparent
dude was literally a marine how could you blame him for using guns
the strong melee is just a side effect of being powered by the creator of literally everything
dark thunder
ok seriously why is the shield bug not fixed yet
and I feel like the aggadon is glitchy now it keeps throwing the long range unblockables up close
hearty edge
There is virtually no reason Doomguy couldn't just main melee forever.
the mace is infinitely dense so it mght be imprudent to spam it everytime bc its heavy
the pwwer guntlet and flail dontmake sense yes
hearty edge
the pwwer guntlet and flail dontmake sense yes
the gauntlet maybe makes the most sense bc it may run in sum energy r smth to deal damage
but the flail is literally just a flail
neon perch
The gauntlet is attached to a tool at the end of his arm which is called a fist.
He has it on him at all times.
He also has a foot.
hearty edge
The gauntlet is attached to a tool at the end of his arm which is called a fist.
hmm never heaerd of it
green estuary
There is virtually no reason Doomguy couldn't just main melee forever.
Same reason why doomguyās normal punch dealt 1 damage in eternal
Gameplay
real crater
yea i love fisting demons
i thought that said "i love finishing demons" but the real message is somehow worse
wheat sigil
tf
uneven mortar
No SSG...
vivid flicker
Doom the light ages when?
uneven mortar
A medieval doom game where you specifically kill angelic monstrosities would be fire
vivid flicker
Dont know how that would work tho
uneven mortar
Tbh it would probably be visually uninteresting because of too much white and gold
golden thistle
what updates did the dark ages get lately?
random sand
what updates did the dark ages get lately?
Ripatorium, more changes to the demon spawns, changes to the guns. Changes to some of the boss fights. Changes to the mech. That sorta thing
alpine pilot
Where doom 
meager vortex
neon gust
Is there a way to randomize waves in the Ripatorium
or are there presets
I don't really like having to choose the demons that will be on the field
uneven mortar
I don't really like having to choose the demons that will be on the field
These are planned features
uneven mortar
yo what happened to the dlc that was planned
You need to be 13 to talk in this server
uneven mortar
The DLC is still being worked on.
uneven mortar
I'll consider it
solemn mauve
We talked abt beans and toilet destruction
What
low locust
Ngl I believe I figured howāll Doom The Dark Ages DLC story will be based on.
celest sun
Yeah... this response.
low locust
Based on the latest concept art the slayer will travel there & meet that once demon lord that yielded the demonic crucible (Statue 2016/Eternal) & heāll understand howāll to get into contact with the cosmic realm since the wraiths originated from that plain which once arrived the Slayer will finish the job on the Witch Dark ages (2nd antagonist) & ofc kill him.
celest sun
Ohhh my name is... pretty š„¹šš
celest sun
Based on the latest concept art the slayer will travel there & meet that once de...
You know what would be cool? A clear explanation on what Doom Guy was doing in between Doom 64 and before he met the Sentinels.
low locust
You know what would be cool? A clear explanation on what Doom Guy was doing in b...
Thatās redundant though. we know that gap period.
celest sun
Thatās redundant though. we know that gap period.
I don't think so. It was really interesting when that Demon Priest said "The beast is once again tearing through our ranks".. and although it can be interpreted that he maybe referring to Doom guy already being massive threat when he joined the Sentinels, I like to think the Demonic Hierarchy only started to realize how much of a force of nature he really was when he decided to stay in Hell.
And to me, that time period would be worth exploring. What else could he have been up to?
Plus, how long was he there before he found the Argenti? Decades? Millennia?
low locust
I don't think so. It was really interesting when that Demon Priest said "The bea...
I mean thatās already the case however we know that time period was Doom 64 lost levels & the sister of all mother demons before dying teleported him onto Sentinel Prime
celest sun
I thought he was teleported back in time in hell
solar cairn
Hotfix there?
maiden onyx
Plus, how long was he there before he found the Argenti? Decades? Millennia?
I mean, bro was mortal till the divinity machine, so heād probably been killing demons for a dozen or so years at most given he still looks young in dark ages
celest sun
I mean, bro was mortal till the divinity machine, so heād probably been killing ...
Actually, thats a good observation; I didn't even realize that
Oh and another thing I wonder about sometimes. I think it might have been a throw away answer, probably because they themselves havent fully explored it yet, but when Hugo was asked why the Doom Slayer ended up in Hell after he killed himself to escape, he said because it was down to him being a killer.
Who's making the descions on weather who goes to Hell or doesnt? Does this imply that Hell is a force of nature and that it is sinful to interfere with its conquests? Is Davoth delivering final judgment? Is that where everyone is destined to go? What constitutes evil in Doom?
solemn mauve
Hotfix there?
Monday it is
real crater
Who's making the descions on weather who goes to Hell or doesnt? Does this imply...
well i dont know if theres any other alternative because according to samuel hayden no human being has ever set foot onto urdak so hell may be the only place to go
maiden onyx
Oh and another thing I wonder about sometimes. I think it might have been a thro...
feels like a pretty unsatisfying reason, wouldāve gone with the fragment of davoth in him / something to do with his soul being ātainted beyond ascensionā as recorded in the testaments
celest sun
feels like a pretty unsatisfying reason, wouldāve gone with the fragment of davo...
Yeah... it seems so confusing and unclear.
real crater
and another thing i think it's agreed upon here that what hugo says isnt canon because hes a game director and not a story writer
at least it was a couple months ago
maiden onyx
ya hell is actually a big box of purple goo š
celest sun
The real Hell was the Demons we ripped and teared along the way.
maiden onyx
but then someone ate all of it
It was the seraphim, dats why heās purple when you beat him up
wide siren
had a dream last night of doom the dark ages, but instead of demons i was fighting my two year old and her stuffed animals, having to dodge tantrums and parry small pebbles she threw at me š
celest sun
AHHH WAIT HAHAH
maiden onyx
https://youtu.be/XNmozHXQ5zk?si=rf7LtHG0Vb5IEhho
a fellow mashed appreciator ā¼ļøā¼ļø
celest sun
Lmao
maiden onyx
been waiting for a new doom animation for ageees
frail bloom
There is virtually no reason Doomguy couldn't just main melee forever.
It's not as effective, he needs some sort of range abilities for certain enemies so that's where his guns come in play, which he can use with the melee weapons
frail bloom
feels like a pretty unsatisfying reason, wouldāve gone with the fragment of davo...
That is the true reason, we disregard everything Hugo says abt lore, crucial rule here
frail bloom
Based on the latest concept art the slayer will travel there & meet that once de...
Wasn't that demon lord with the crucible retconned? I don't remember specifics but I don't know if he still exists in the world
frail bloom
A medieval doom game where you specifically kill angelic monstrosities would be ...
A doom game where you kill biblical monsters and doom monsters set in Hell where the slayer is trapped for eons, he could fight giant demons like nephilim
frail bloom
It's not like each melee weapon is charge dependant. It's a gauntlet, a flail, a...
Plus the chainsaw still does not make sense bc it charges infinitely out of nowhere so we can chalk it up to gameplay
Hey I actually drew Nephilim concept art
Lemme post it here
#screenshots message
Concept art of DOOM Nephilim
(Wake uuuup!)
upbeat junco
been waiting for a new doom animation for ageees
Claycat made a dark ages one
low locust
Wasn't that demon lord with the crucible retconned? I don't remember specifics b...
Nah heās been plaguing the Doom community since 2016
frail bloom
Nah heās been plaguing the Doom community since 2016
Oh ok good to know
(What does he look like again)
low locust
Oh ok good to know
Lowkey believe heās gonna appear because we need connections to the cosmic realm to finish the witch.
frail bloom
We also have to consider the high council tho
low locust
We also have to consider the high council tho
I think they should be introduced next game & kill of 1 of the 6 during the civil war on Argent D,Nur
low locust
(What does he look like again)
Crucible wielding Maykr looking demon lord
frail bloom
I think they should be introduced next game & kill of 1 of the 6 during the civi...
Well when Hugo was asked, he made a face, and didn't answer, so I assume we hunt 2 out of the 6 in this dlc
Ofc we don't really know if it's this dlc
But since they were mentioned in the campaign(even in cutscenes) I assume that's where we're headed
frail bloom
Crucible wielding Maykr looking demon lord
Plus he could be in the next game
It's not like the slayer has to be present during the civil war
He most likely alternated between Hell and Argent D'nur
low locust
Idk Iām focused on finishing the witch off but her & Samuel Maykr have high chance of teaming up in a game set after Eternalās Ancient Gods dlcās
frail bloom
Idk Iām focused on finishing the witch off but her & Samuel Maykr have high chan...
Tbh idc abt the witch
It's not like she shouldn't be addressed
But should it really be in a dlc
Or in a full campaign with a demon lord
low locust
It's not like the slayer has to be present during the civil war
I mean he was present though
frail bloom
I mean he was present though
Was he?
The whole time?
Or did he also travel to Hell on between
harsh egret
But should it really be in a dlc
Well I want more cosmic realm 
frail bloom
But think abt it
Do they really have the budget for a witch boss, and a couple high council bosses
And to think abt it further, do they even remember the demon lord
harsh egret
Lmao they dont just "forget"
low locust
Was he?
Yeah Eternalās codexās than Valen makes a deal with the Hell priest & locks everyone in Hell to die.
frail bloom
Tbh
frail bloom
Yeah Eternalās codexās than Valen makes a deal with the Hell priest & locks ever...
That doesn't say if the slayer fought with them the entire time
I don't think the next game is going to be set exclusively on Argent D'nur, not even half of it
low locust
I don't think the next game is going to be set exclusively on Argent D'nur, not ...
Itās gonna be 50/50 civil war & Hell
frail bloom
Itās gonna be 50/50 civil war & Hell
Ye I think that too
So he can alternate between helping in the civil war and looking for the demon lord
low locust
Ngl I kinda dislike the Doom cosmic realm stuff
frail bloom
Well
What for
It explains where the wraiths came from
And implies why they ran
And why the cosmic realm would ally with Hell
For those wraiths
low locust
Because if you say Cosmic realm should be the dlc ppl say Hell should & same applies in reverse
grave cave
Dude I'm drunk dooming rn, half way done my 40%
frail bloom
Because if you say Cosmic realm should be the dlc ppl say Hell should & same app...
Well think of it this way:
Since ahzrak and the witch failed, Hell most likely didn't give a f anymore and just consumed the dying cosmic realm inside of Hell, which means you would get a cosmic realm hell hybrid
In the same level
It could be a really weird purple color
Purple fire
Purple hell
And alternates to green hell
With weird hellish cosmic stuff
But hey I ain't the ID team
Wasn't it said that the demon lord scared the slayer or smt
Struck fear into him or smt
Don't remember the specifics
low locust
Donāt believe soā¦
vague sinew
I mean we got blue hell i think the cosmic realm is not that outlandish
Donāt get me wrong i think blue hell is awesome
frail bloom
Gimme purple hell
vague sinew
Gimme purple hell
Doom 64 is right there!
I really like doom 64ās art direction. Immaculate.
harsh egret
Why do we just want random colored hell
If it makes sense, sure
But not just for the sake of it lol
grave cave
I've been drinking enough to say I want spaghetti hell
vague sinew
If anything, i want to revisit a bit of where the doom 1/2 battles took place. Imagine seeing the tower of babel where the marine first fought the cyberdemon or the green castles filled with barons of hell
Itād be a cool homage
grave cave
Yesss
low locust
We need Mick Gordon back!!!
harsh egret
...
vague sinew
I want sonic mayhem
low locust
?
harsh egret
?
low locust
Who you talking to?
harsh egret
you
low locust
About Mick Gordon?
harsh egret
yes lol
golden thistle
Ripatorium, more changes to the demon spawns, changes to the guns. Changes to so...
ooh okay thank you, i just havent played dark ages inna while so i wanted to see whats new
vague sinew
Sonic mayhem wouldāve made the perfect ost for dark ages. Donāt get me wrong finishing move did a good job but i just know sonic mayhem would have made bangers after bangerz
harsh egret
lol nvm not exactly what i meant
i just think the franchise should move on cuz it prob wont happen
and i think the franchise will be just fine without him
low locust
I mean almost everyone said Doom TDA ost wasn't cut for Doom & forgettable beside 1-2 tracks most
frail bloom
I mean almost everyone said Doom TDA ost wasn't cut for Doom & forgettable besid...
And they're wrong
It's the most classic doom since classic doom
low locust
i however enjoy the fk out of this ost
Doesn't that make you biased than since you enjoyed the ost of TDA?
harsh egret
what?
low locust
Stupid comment & reasoning to post
frail bloom
Doesn't that make you biased than since you enjoyed the ost of TDA?
Well who isn't biased then
harsh egret
bruh im still a huge mick fan lmao
frail bloom
On what do you measure great music that fits a franchise?
That spans decades and generations
That has had multiple different composers
harsh egret
and this is why i said move on, because i think everyone that comes here to talk about mick has some random shit to say
low locust
bruh im still a huge mick fan lmao
Hugh fan but move on, let it go & ppl are biased becuase they rather Argent metal more
low locust
and this is why i said move on, because i think everyone that comes here to talk...
You started this disagreement dumbass
vague sinew
What is different this time around is that the music
- has mixing problems
- the music is in the background to listen to. In 2016 and Eternal it worked towards the gameplay, creating synergy with it.
frail bloom
What is different this time around is that the music
1) has mixing problems
2)...
False
uneven dragon
They fixed the mixing already itās been months since
frail bloom
The music did not dynamically change in eternal as much as it did 2016
vague sinew
They fixed the mixing already itās been months since
Yes, but you cannot fix the super loud drums that overshadow every instrument
frail bloom
Infact dark zges currently has better mixing than eternal
low locust
1 comment about not enjoying the music & than mr whiteknight starts smth & plays victim like nobody the victim bud
uneven dragon
Eternal is currently the only NuDoom to still have broken mixing lol
harsh egret
shhhh...
frail bloom
You have to set 100% music and 60% sfx to hear it in eternal
vague sinew
The music did not dynamically change in eternal as much as it did 2016
I think i havenāt made myself clear enough i guess
uneven dragon
TAG 2 is more like 100% and 20%
frail bloom
I think i havenāt made myself clear enough i guess
No not really
For doom 2016 I can get that
But eternal's is not that well mixed
For obvious reasons
vague sinew
No not really
English is my second language, hard to express what iām trying to really say
harsh egret
right
uneven dragon
The music in TDA does work with the gameplay idk how ppl can hear Unchained Predator while mowing through hordes or ascending to the sky while the crescendo of Blood Red plays and think the music isnāt working with the gameplay
vague sinew
But eternal's is not that well mixed
No i agree that eternalās music is not well mixed, iām not saying that itās mixing is sufficient
frail bloom
No i agree that eternalās music is not well mixed, iām not saying that itās mixi...
Ofc
But dark ages is actully better ingame
low locust
It's been months Eternal ost is fine mixed
vague sinew
But dark ages is actully better ingame
Oh yeah definitely
frail bloom
Oh yeah definitely
(But I like eternal's ost more as a piece of work )
vague sinew
I have no problem with tdaās mixing ingame. Out of the game itās a whole other story. I tried to listen to a track on youtube and the drums were overshadowing everything other musical instrument
And i do think the guitar treble option is sometimes too high
low locust
Outta the 35 ost i only remember 2 & i listened to it like 4 times
vague sinew
The music in TDA does work with the gameplay idk how ppl can hear Unchained Pred...
Unchained predator and blackened tide are arguably the best tracks.
frail bloom
Infernal chasm, unholy siege
vague sinew
Blackened tide is just perfect for the moment itās put into.
low locust
Unholy siege the 1 i remember
harsh egret
ngl infernal chasm plays too much in game i think
vague sinew
ngl infernal chasm plays too much in game i think
Agreed
frail bloom
It plays like 3 times
harsh egret
wut lol
vague sinew
I wouldāve preferred unchained predator in the last battle against ahzrak.
harsh egret
anyway ye that track is like the only main track i actually skip most of the times on spotify lol
frail bloom
Forsaken plains
Hellbreaker
Reckoning
frail bloom
anyway ye that track is like the only main track i actually skip most of the tim...
Sadge, I love the orchestral parts
Y'know the church choir
harsh egret
It plays like 3 times
that one specifically gets too repetitive for me, it plays on 3 diff levels i think right?
frail bloom
that one specifically gets too repetitive for me, it plays on 3 diff levels i th...
Yup
frail bloom
Hm
harsh egret
which is weird cuz its one of the most popular tracks lol
and if i die 2-3 times in an arena where that plays i start losing my mind
harsh egret
they cooking im sure
frail bloom
More orchestra!
More medieval stuff!
Industrial where it fits!!
Weird synth stuff where it fits!!!
frail bloom
It would most likely be either infernal chasm or blood red
harsh egret
at least i do believe they will get nominated :d
uneven dragon
Not iconic enough probably
frail bloom
Not iconic enough probably
Sad
harsh egret
to me it is
frail bloom
It could be a great intro theme for a show
harsh egret
its literally doomguy's track pretty much
it hits hard on the intro and outro of the game
frail bloom
My fav part is the part before the crunchy drop
It sounds like castlevania or smt
Medieval cultist base
Sad that the most intense arguing is always on the music
What will we be arguing abt in 10 yrs
The next composers?
wheat sigil
Sad that the most intense arguing is always on the music
naw that goes to "is the game with doom in its title a doom game??"
frail bloom
naw that goes to "is the game with doom in its title a doom game??"
Lmao
neon perch
Plus the chainsaw still does not make sense bc it charges infinitely out of nowh...
Irrelevant. Point is, it's far more plausible that a chainsaw will run out of fuel than a flail run out of charges that don't exist because it's a melee weapon.
wheat sigil
the slayer gets tired
frail bloom
Irrelevant. Point is, it's far more plausible that a chainsaw will run out of fu...
Still not plausible enough, but hey, it's gameplay
wheat sigil
big balls require a lot of force to swing
neon perch
Still not plausible enough, but hey, it's gameplay
How is that not plausible enough? What do you think a chainsaw runs on?
frail bloom
Even tho he is the strongest in eternal
frail bloom
How is that not plausible enough? What do you think a chainsaw runs on?
Does it run on infinite gas?
That spawns ammo from dead demons?
Oh wait
They all do that
neon perch
I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say.
frail bloom
Cuz it's a video game
neon perch
You are missing the point so hard.
frail bloom
You are missing the point so hard.
Ye it being filled up on gas instead of charges I get that
But still why the hell does it matter
It still realistcally would not make sense
Why can't he use his fists in eternal when he clearly can
neon perch
I'm not talking about how videogamey it is that the chainsaw regenerates overtime. I'm talking about how being unable to use the chainsaw because it has no fuel in it makes more sense than not being able to swing a flail that DOESNT NEED CHARGES TO FUNCTION.
neon perch
One has a reason to NOT function after a single use, the other doesn't.
frail bloom
And 2016
frail bloom
One has a reason to NOT function after a single use, the other doesn't.
I get that
My point is
It doesn't matter
neon perch
Oh my God this is so funny .
frail bloom
Bc there has been a dissonance since forever
neon perch
It's too early to be doing this I'm gonna go exercise.
frail bloom
Am I wrong or smt
They both don't make sense
Idc if one is more plausible if it doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense
And then he completely ignores my punch example
It's such a pointless comparison
solid nacelle
I mean I guess from like a logical standpoint it can be seen as weird but it's a video game so who really cares
uneven mortar
I'm not talking about how videogamey it is that the chainsaw regenerates overtim...
I assume all the weapons require some kind of BS magical charge to hurt demons properly, like the fire inside the flail runs out or something
frail bloom
You don't have to assums
uneven mortar
The gauntlets run out of lightning, the bat's spirits need to rest for a bit
frail bloom
Why does he require 100 punches to bring down a zombie in eternal even tho he's at his strongest
Bc it's a video game
neon perch
I assume all the weapons require some kind of BS magical charge to hurt demons p...
I mean you're still left with perfectly fine weapons to hurt demons with.
It's not like they need fuel to cut through anything. They're blunt weapons.
frail bloom
It's comparing the wrong things and it's comparing only two instances of two different games that work differently
uneven mortar
Bc it's a video game
That's the obvious answer but there's fun in trying to justify it within the game's world
frail bloom
Just don't
uneven mortar
Why not? Lol
frail bloom
I mean you can
uneven mortar
Aren't you like a big lore guy
frail bloom
But you'll go in circles
uneven mortar
I mean I'm not really going in circles. I choose to believe that the TDA weapons rely on magic to power, and in Doom Eternal he was pulling his punches because he likes to use guns for the kill
frail bloom
But that makes no sense
He is more than capable to use his fists
If he wants to punch a zombie why does it do nothing?
Doesn't matter if he would rather use his guns
uneven mortar
He's just giving it a little tap to keep it away from him
neon perch
Just don't
This all could've ended at 'yeah I guess he could just swing the melee weapons even without charges' and you started talking about something else lol.
frail bloom
Bruh he literally swings with full force
frail bloom
This all could've ended at 'yeah I guess he could just swing the melee weapons e...
Ye I agree with you
uneven mortar
He's just miming when he swings
uneven mortar
Also there could be some bullshit reason related to the armor, like he engineered it so he doesn't mistakenly punch people to death or smth
I think "it's a video game" is correct but fundamentally unfun
frail bloom
Point is, in eternal he doesn't punch bc he is much more effective in long range weaponry, and in dark ages, swinging makes him tired bc he's so heavy or smt
Idc
In terms of gameplay it's so you use your guns
And keep distance from demons
Literally no way to justify them
uneven mortar
That's a bold statement
frail bloom
Just call them ethereal chainsaws and melee weapons and call it a day
Where the hell does he stuff 8 weapons in classic doom
In his ass?
uneven mortar
Yep
uneven mortar
He could probably carry them on his back
frail bloom
No he can't
uneven mortar
Bet he could
frail bloom
Let's see
A bfg, rocket launcer, ssg, csg, plasma gun, pistol and chaingun
And if you go in a 3d person view, you don't see any of them
uneven mortar
In Predator Arnie lifts a car
It's 90s beefcake logic
And you're not supposed to be in 3rd person
frail bloom
Ye but his guns are literally invisible
wheat sigil
How does he fit through the small spaces
cuz he's cute and smolš„ŗ
frail bloom
And you're not supposed to be in 3rd person
uneven mortar
In Amnesia The Dark Descent your character model is literally just a hand, do you think that's meant to be canon
wheat sigil
cuz he's cute and smolš„ŗ
one fuel canister is half his height
frail bloom
In Amnesia The Dark Descent your character model is literally just a hand, do yo...
No
But your headcanon doesn't make sense with what you see in game
You ARE supposed to see the third person
You literally have multiplayer
You see cutscenes of him
uneven mortar
Where do you propose he keeps his guns
frail bloom
A pocket dimension
solemn mauve
Uac technology
uneven mortar
I feel like him just carrying them around is much more plausible ngl
solemn mauve
If uac can open portals, why wouldn't they not open some mini pocket dimension for storage?
frail bloom
I feel like him just carrying them around is much more plausible ngl
Well why don't you see all his guns in 2016, eternal and dark ages
They have cutscenes
uneven mortar
?
frail bloom
What's so confusing
You don't see him carrying all his guns in cutscenes
Yet he's more than capable
He's a demigod, not a marine
uneven mortar
I guess it could be a pocket dimension in the modern games, but in the classic ones he's literally trapped in hell
No way classic guy has pocket dimensions figured out
frail bloom
No way classic guy has pocket dimensions figured out
He could be using tiny portals
Bc lets be honest, he can't carry all that weight and run the same speed
uneven mortar
He COULD. I'm not gonna deny that it's possible. I think he's just strong enough to carry them around tbh
wheat sigil
there's a reason for the slow swap speed in classic doom..
frail bloom
there's a reason for the slow swap speed in classic doom..
Cuz he has to pull it out his ass it's painful
Feel sorry for the dude
uneven mortar
I mean it probably all weighs like, about the same as a suit of armor? He probably straps it onto his suit
frail bloom
The bfg is like the size of his body
And the rocket launcher is also really heavy
Guns are heavy
uneven mortar
He's meant to he like Dutch from Predator, I think he's just unrealistically strong
He also holds the rocket launcher against his chest
Which would wind you or shatter your ribs, I assume he's just That Guy
frail bloom
He also happens to run faster than his rocket
uneven mortar
That too
uneven mortar
Probably just more chill
frail bloom
A literal demigod
uneven mortar
He does tho
frail bloom
That one is just horrible
frail bloom
He does tho
No he uses them bc he needs to
uneven mortar
Nuh uh
frail bloom
Hugo what have you done
uneven mortar
If he needed to he wouldn't get a little horny whenever he picks up a gun
He literally displays them in his room with his guitars
uneven mortar
Didn't he literally spend AEONS either unarmed or only with his shotgun in hell?
frail bloom
No one knows if it was just his shotgun
And no, he did not spend eons unarmored
He literally was gifted a praetor suit, most likely after the other suit was withered
uneven mortar
Hmm true
I think he could kill demons roughly as well without his guns
Wouldn't be a very fun game tho
frail bloom
I think he could kill demons roughly as well without his guns
No not really
He's strong but he needs long range weaponry
Why does he dodge projectiles
Bc they can kill him
uneven mortar
Maybe? Idk the marauders don't have guns right
solemn mauve
Maybe? Idk the marauders don't have guns right
Ssg
uneven mortar
Oh yeah
uneven mortar
They're definitely used
Was there really no melee-only phase in doomguy's life?
I assumed he was just going straight hands in hell for a while
frail bloom
Maybe but he can't get far
No, he did not kill a titan with his hands
Why would hugo say that...
uneven mortar
When did he say that?
If he hasn't redacted that I'd have to assume it's true
Maybe he was hopped up on argent energy
solemn mauve
Argent energy is hell of a drug
uneven mortar
I wish there was some kind of balanced melee-only cheat code in TDA
It would be cool to play the game entirely with just melee and shield
Berserk is unfun imo
solemn mauve
Oh you mean like the cheat codes from Eternal?
uneven mortar
Yeah
Omg imagine if you had to battle out of "being dead" with melee only, like some kind of half-berserk powerup
solemn mauve
Hmmm, why doesn't TDA have something like this? Maybe it will be in a Future update or something?
uneven mortar
It was probably the first thing I noticed missing from eternal
upbeat junco
He also holds the rocket launcher against his chest
They haven't told him about backblast š
solemn mauve
They haven't told him about backblast š
Rocket's backblast absorbs him
frail bloom
If he hasn't redacted that I'd have to assume it's true
We never take his statements as fact
He contradicts the lore all the time
uneven mortar
I mean that's unfortunately the nature of most lore isn't it
It's often self-contradictory so you have to pick and choose
frail bloom
I trust the source material, not the disconnected author
frail bloom
Hugo isn't the only one who writes the lore, and he doesn't know really anything
frail bloom
Like only the stuff that makes it into games?
Well ye
He did it this year
When asked abt why the slayer went to hell
He said, I quote,
"He commited mass murder so he went to hell"
molten holly
You don't see him carrying all his guns in cutscenes
game
frail bloom
uneven mortar
I don't think I'd say he "doesn't really know anything" that seems needlessly dismissive.
frail bloom
I don't think I'd say he "doesn't really know anything" that seems needlessly di...
Alr ye
He knows stuff that we won't know will happen
uneven mortar
"He commited mass murder so he went to hell"
That makes sense to me, maybe the portal would have taken him to heaven if he hadn't
frail bloom
That makes sense to me, maybe the portal would have taken him to heaven if he h...
Dawg
All he killed are demons
He went to hell for killing demons?????
solemn mauve
So he's forever connected to hell
I mean he died in episode 1 of classic doom, he was always a part of hell
frail bloom
I mean he died in episode 1 of classic doom, he was always a part of hell
He didn't die I believe
Bc he teleported outside of hell
Deimos floats above hell
Not in it tho
uneven mortar
He knows stuff that we won't know will happen
He also like, writes a lot of the lore surely?
He's the game director
frail bloom
He also like, writes a lot of the lore surely?
He surely has a whole team of writers
But he can't keep track of everything
And they don't really iron stuff out
Takes them a long time to build lore cohesively
I disregard a lot of author statements all the time, it's not just hugo
The author is not omnipotent
They will get stuff wrong, even tho they say it's right, it can ruin their own story
The fans that spend their time writing manuals abt it and studying it are more invested at that point and more knowleadgble than the author
uneven mortar
You don't need to explain Death of The Author to me, I'm just saying that you're theorycrafting in a pretty arbitrary way and pretending it's not arbitrary
uneven mortar
That's not how it works
frail bloom
Hugo takes it from his mind whenever he has no idea what to say
You can say I'm wrong or whatever but at the end of the day, one is more cohesive and built than the other
uneven mortar
The source material will necessarily have contradictions within it and the fans will have to decide what to keep and what to ignore, you can't get a coherent and internally consistent body of lore "from the source material" the way you're saying
frail bloom
The source material will necessarily have contradictions within it and the fans ...
Ofc, but it's always more than whatever the author decides in a split second
There will be plotholes in anything
uneven mortar
I agree with that
frail bloom
But overall you have to maintain a cohesive world that establishes a concrete set of universal rules
And hugo breaks that a lot of times
It can dampen the story
uneven mortar
I guess so, but what happens when a new game comes out? Do you just disregard the parts you find tacky as non-canon?
frail bloom
I guess so, but what happens when a new game comes out? Do you just disregard th...
No I say they're written poorly and the story is worse
I won't disregard them
They're part of it now
uneven mortar
I guess I don't see as clear a line between that and statements from hugo as you're suggesting
I obviously understand to an extent, but surely he says something pretty earthshaking you can't ignore sometimes
frail bloom
I guess I don't see as clear a line between that and statements from hugo as you...
Bc his statements are out of his mind at the split moment, they are jot from the source material, are not connected in any way, and generally make the story worse
uneven mortar
But surely there are sometimes statements that are elegant and make the story better or explain things in an interesting way?
frail bloom
Well we have yet to find one
You gotta understand
They have to be established by the story
In the actual games
And cannot break what we understood for smt worse
uneven mortar
I do understand that, but lore is also largely held together with connective tissue not made explicit within the games right?
uneven mortar
I guess I would assume statements from the author would fit into there
frail bloom
Ok how abt we get a real lore guy
frail bloom
I guess I don't see as clear a line between that and statements from hugo as you...
@hard thistle where do you land on this
Bc I'm not as eloquent
I'm not able to effectively explain it as much
upbeat junco
im the lore guy the slayer doesnt actually kill demons its all in le head just look at cry of fear trust me guys trust trust and trust
charred locust
@everyone WATCH OUT FOR flameman762 HE IS A HACKER THAT LIKE TO MAKE SUFFER TO PEOPLE AND HE IS VERY GOOD A HACKING SERVERS
frail bloom
Why did you ping everyone
charred locust
Oh my bad
frail bloom
You could've just discreetly talked with the moderators
charred locust
Oh god I sold but thanks
uneven mortar
frail bloom
Is that from deltarune
uneven mortar
Heat Flamesman? Th Hacker?
frail bloom
Am I wrong
hard thistle
<@456226577798135808> where do you land on this
I defer to the source material, not the author of the source material. These are two different sources that can very easily contradict each other.
frail bloom
I agree
Aw man
Now what do we talk abt
Thursday is sooo far away
Imagine if we have tech problems next thursday
alpine pilot
Where doom
fluid nacelle
is there any way to unfuck bugged steam achivements?
i tried doing a new playthrough but that didnt work either
frail bloom
is there any way to unfuck bugged steam achivements?
i tried doing a new playthr...
You can try submitting a ticket at bethesda.net
And a team will eventually look at it and add it to their list of bugs
Or recommend a photo or video so they can see the issue
(I think this is how you report bugs)
fluid nacelle
its just upgrade all melee weapons one
frank turtle
the thing devo said about the stone imp room was hilarious
solid nacelle
What did devo say about the stone imp room
solid nacelle
Standing on stone so like half the game
warm ibex
is there any way to unfuck bugged steam achivements?
i tried doing a new playthr...
Which achievements are bugged? I'll send that over
fluid nacelle
its just uhh
upgrade all melee weapons
which makes no sense cuz i got berserker
melee expert its called
frank turtle
max slider village of khalim is pretty much a master level
warm ibex
melee expert its called
They should be aware of that one, so I'd imagine a fix will come as soon as they figure it out. I'll check and make sure though
fluid nacelle
i tried starting a new playthrough
getting all the way to city of ry'ull and getting the final upgrade there
didnt get it still
calm tangle
warm ibex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1408919481769787452/Fl...
that's fuckin awesome, where is it from?
calm tangle
that's fuckin awesome, where is it from?
warm ibex
oh sick dude!
calm tangle
Made it for my video I'm uploading tomorrow!
warm ibex
Are you the guy who made that vid of the mini TDA Slayer and Sentinels?
calm tangle
Are you the guy who made that vid of the mini TDA Slayer and Sentinels?
Uhh probably not
But I did make this
warm ibex
lmao that's peak
tight plover
No puedo pasar en el final de la misiĆ³n resureccion
spring panther
No puedo pasar en el final de la misiĆ³n resureccion
tight plover
I can't get through the final part of the resurrection mission, there are no more enemies.
fluid nacelle
They should be aware of that one, so I'd imagine a fix will come as soon as they...
thank u btw
ive ben drinking too much tonight to like
repoprt this kinda stuff
warm ibex
thank u btw
ive ben drinking too much tonight to like
repoprt this kinda stuff
yeah no problem man!
frank turtle
does anyone know how to do the shield bash skip on village of khalim?
at the final fight before the turret section
I can't boost myself high enough
fluid nacelle
anyone got a ripatorium demon set up rec?