the-dark-ages

[harsh egret]

yeah but at tga

[frail bloom]

Ohhhh

When are those?

[harsh egret]

11th dec

[frail bloom]

Welp you never know

[harsh egret]

thats realistically when and where the dlc would be announced tho

[frail bloom]

Ye

[silent surge]

feb 30

[solid nacelle]

I cant remember was Indiana Jones full raytracing? Cause if so then dark ages is 100% coming to switch 2

[frail bloom]

So what's the date

[harsh egret]

the fact that i checked to see if that date is on a thrusday...

[frail bloom]

Feb 30 or dec 11

[harsh egret]

i think he meant dlc release

[frail bloom]

Hmmmmmm

[harsh egret]

game awards is on the 11th of dec

[frail bloom]

Idk abt that

I'm leaning towards March

They would have had 7 months of work in, plus some prep work

Until the december announcement

[harsh egret]

im sticking with my 12th of feb prediction

would be funny if im right for no reason

[frail bloom]

We will see

For now I finished my summer work so my time has freed up!

By 2 hrs to do different school work

Fun times

Anyone find any cool presets?

Or made any?

That swipe attack the agaddon does is just stupid

He does it when I'm in his face too

Makes fighting him feel janky

[sudden stump]

Had it happen to be the other day on level one. Only way to avoid it for me is to let the end level screen play out completely, no skipping

[green estuary]

the only solution I've found is to not get super close to him
that way you won't get hit with the initial red slash swing and you only have to block the projectile

[frail bloom]

So I have to bait him

Marauder mf

[green estuary]

no you don't need to bait him
just take a little step back from where you normally stand to engage him

[frail bloom]

Ugh

I could do without it

[green estuary]

yeah it's annoying

it's like when the marauder is running at you acting like he's gonna swing his axe but instead teleports in front of your face and blasts you instead

[frail bloom]

I used to think it was punishment for now engaging him but nope you can't even stand and fight without being punished

[solid nacelle]

Yeah it's way too close for an attack like that

[frail bloom]

He's like the marauder now in that regard

Ssg in your face after running up to you

[green estuary]

it's his "fuck you" attack

[frail bloom]

Basically

[stoic forge]

Guys I just fought Agaddon on UV and he’s really hard I kept dying

Does not bode well for the rest of the run lol

[frail bloom]

What are you dying from

Timing parries or his projectiles

So far I really like how they added an orange wall in city of r'yuul

Kathrual stayed the same pretty much

I wonder how the next one feels

Temple of Lomarith

[remote trellis]

so i’m currently on chapter 6 i need to close the 5th and last portal but i can’t get to the enemies

theres the red wall blocking me. i would send pic but no perms

am i screwed? do i just have to reset the mission? or is there a way around it

[verbal void]

Send it in #screenshots

[remote trellis]

ok

sent

[verbal void]

Hmm

Reset checkpoint?

Or check if theres any enemys

Check first. If theres none then reset checkpoint

[remote trellis]

i tried resetting checkout. going to main menu etc

and i didn’t see any enemies but i can look again rq

[verbal void]

Reload the game?

[remote trellis]

tried that too. nothing

[verbal void]

Are you on playstation or xbox

[remote trellis]

laptop

[verbal void]

Oh

[remote trellis]

?

[verbal void]

I haven’t tried laptop ever

[remote trellis]

oh

[verbal void]

Srry

[remote trellis]

it’s alright

[verbal void]

I think check to see if theres any updates

[remote trellis]

i’m going in circles rn looking for an enemy to unlock or smt

[verbal void]

Thats all i think

[remote trellis]

alr

i just walked around hella and no enemies nothing

and no updates

😢

ill wait until tmr morning. see if anybody else has an idea but otherwise i’ll is restart mission

[wooden dock]

What is your game speed

Lmao this sounds like a creepypasta 😭

[silent trail]

Is anyone else having the issue of not being able to shield block when firing the super shotgun sometimes, and other time being able to?

[warm ibex]

That's a common issue at the moment

[harsh egret]

so common that everyone has it in fact

[frail bloom]

Wait

Is josh in this server

If Hugo doesn't see the stuff we talk abt maybe Josh does

Idc if it's stupid to state the chat's been sleeping for awhile

Just discussion

[solid nacelle]

Yeah his @ is tokyopunchout

[frail bloom]

Ye thought as much

I wonder if he views these chats often

[unkempt dragon]

I feel like this is the speculation channel lol

[fierce river]

I saw there’s a new update for dark age? Whah is it

[stoic forge]

Mostly from losing my shield and not noticing or standing in Mancubus poison

[harsh egret]

nothing really important

[fierce river]

Any new skins..?

[calm tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1407527650700034118/Doodleslayer.gif?ex=68a66dc6&is=68a51c46&hm=55f6649205de6adbceaa3337e77e10a93c5d6cc20aac9a7dbac1880b69ab2619&

Gif from upcoming boobtube video I'm making on tda

[frail bloom]

That's all you can do really

[unkempt dragon]

'Tis true

[frail bloom]

Zhare vid when you're done it looks funny

There's not much tda animation vids if any at all so by all means pls post it here aswell

[calm tangle]

It's not necessarily an animation video, but there are a few small animations/gags in it, it's a 2 and a half hour long exploration type video

I think you will like it

[frail bloom]

Oh I'll still take it 100%

The dark ages drought is real

[calm tangle]

Gotchu hoping to release on Sunday at some point before I go back to school

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1407535614890606592/image.png?ex=68a67531&is=68a523b1&hm=dbf43349ae3ac3084a8166b65d37f4d79fe681ad2b10b9b2b5c842a56fd8529a&

[vast tiger]

This is the best doom game I think we ever had

[real crater]

seeing the doom slayer hold giant weapons with one hand is surreal

[frail bloom]

Best modern game imo

Classics are my fav for now

Actually, I think 2016 is slightly better by no means that I can argue

Dark ages has my fav combat tho

I can easily see dark ages my fav after either ng+ or dlc

[real crater]

who else is still waiting for markiplier to play this

[green estuary]

not really waiting
it'd be cool to see him do it because he's pretty comfortably the best fps player out of the huge let's play channels
but he's going more of an indie game route which is cool

his playthrough of eternal was legitimately pretty damn good, whereas I watched jackscepticeye play through it (no offense to him, love his stuff) and it was pretty painful

[sudden stump]

Love mark but his confusion with the lore when he got sentinel prime broke me lol

[green estuary]

yeah that was a little goofy

gameplay was good though which is all I can really ask for

[frail bloom]

I don't think Mark is ever playing it

He's a huge doom fan too he hasen't even mentioned it

The truth is, this gme wasn't as lucky as eternal

[whole dirge]

hello

[tender galleon]

How replayable si the dark ages?

also how longis it

[solid nacelle]

For some time I would replay the campaign but with the sliders being slightly more difficult on each attempt

My first ever playthrough took me around 15 hours or so

[stoic forge]

I disagree. This game captured a bit of the feel of OG Doom, while maintaining the graphics and mechanics we liked from Eternal, and adding more robust melee gameplay.

[wintry nexus]

Maybe he heard ppl’s mixed opinions on the game which i hate =(

[sudden stump]

Idk I feel like YouTubers at his stage just want to do things they want to do instead of following the hype. But also I feel like Eternal had more marketing, especially after it was delayed

[void pollen]

forgot how goofy & fun bouncing the shield saw off of energy shield soldiers was

hopped into the ripatorium to mess around with it and found out it'll instantly daze hell knights

also they made it sound like you could animation cancel weapon swaps and parry while switching weapons, but in my time messing around with update 2 so far that doesn't seem to be the case

[solid nacelle]

Pinky riders too. It's surprisingly strong

[void pollen]

yep, even instakills imp stalkers

[silent surge]

hugo went to markiplier and T-Pain’s houses for them to record/stream

[delicate grotto]

Wonder why he didn’t pick up TDA, being a fan of Doom and all. Maybe he didn’t like the direction the series went in.

[uneven mortar]

Is the SSG fixed

[uneven mortar]

He was working on iron lung movie a bit ago, maybe he is just very busy

I'm also sad he didn't

[arctic flame]

SSG not fixed still useless

[uneven mortar]

God damn :((

[arctic flame]

My main weapon to use when fighting Agaddons and Battle Knights on Nightmare but the reloading sequence blocking you from parrying or blocking their incoming attacks makes the fights drawn out and it's a pain in the ass after the new update with these enemies receiving constant respawning support

[uneven mortar]

Yeah its really upsetting to have such a cool gamewide difficulty increase and then to handicap the player by breaking the ssg

Initially i know it was unintentional but when they unfixed it because a few people were exploiting that really upset me

Feels a bit like ruining everyone's experience because some unintended stuff was possible, very nintendo move dare i say it

[arctic flame]

You should see the encounter I had on Ancestral Forge, fought 2 Agaddons and game sped up twice on 2 of 3 encounters, first was the encounter nearest the Wraithstone, just above it and the second one was with Cyberdemon guarding the other switch.

first Agaddon was the one waiting at the entrance of the forge and the other was at the wraithstone

Luckily I was streaming so I have proof but yeah the SSG is a sad story. I played last week Wednesday and it was fixed then I played over the weekend and it changed again

[dark thunder]

please doom fix the ssg shield shotgun

[north spire]

Tbf, he’s making a movie

So his schedule is very busy rn

[real lynx]

They should really have sliders for weapon tunables. Let the player adjust the damage multiplier for each weapon to specific enemies and armor

[wooden dock]

Wouldnt suprise me if he just played it on the side, mark is a super huge fan of doom.
Sometimes creators just dont want to fully commit to a youtube series

[north spire]

Yea probably

[real crater]

im all for customization but this is a bit too much

knowing which weapons to use on every demon based on damage is something thats been in doom since the first game

if you let people just make one weapon op and then never touch the other ones

[remote trellis]

i js restarted the mission. hopefully its good now

[graceful lion]

yeah sometimes creators jus wanna play games casually because they love thme so much, not make a whole ass series out of it or anything, they want a full experience raw

[frank turtle]

hi chat

[north spire]

Testing out some new weapon pairings

The Accelerator + Auto Turret is actually really fun ngl

It shreds through armoured enemies, especially pinkies and mancubus’

Pair that with the flail and you’re good on both health and armour

[frank turtle]

shredder with ricochet + rocket launcher

thats one I've been using lately

[raw slate]

Same with switching weapons

[wooden dock]

The game punishes you for switching weapons too much, you have to disengage or stun a brawler enemy if you want to switch up what youre fighting it with

[frank turtle]

aggadon hunters with the low parry window slider are no joke

so rage inducing

[raw slate]

Yeah the swing he throws from over head is top tier ragebait if you wait he gets you instantly and if you parry early he breaks your shield so stressful to get it right

[raw slate]

Yeah you can't even parry mid quick switch

[sour oar]

I LOVE THIS GAME

AND DARE I SAY I KIND OF ENJOYED IT MORE THAN ETERNAL

Only by a hair

[frank turtle]

it's truly peak

[wooden dock]

I really enjoy how this game adapts the older methodical gameplay while retaining eternals pace of combat

One of my main critisisms of eternal is a kinda prevelant "unpolished" feeling with a lot of its systems though that might just be on my end. This game however does an incredible job at feeling very cohesive all around. I do genuinely agree with hugo saying this is the most polished experience they've ever put out

[distant granite]

Anyone else having issues with the Melee Expert and Berserker achievements? I've 100%ed the game but these two don't seem to want to pop

[wooden dock]

Yeah several people here have the same issue
I got all the achievements when the game came out so something might have broken since then

[uneven mortar]

Any news on SSG fix? It's been like 2 weeks

[wheat sigil]

might actually have to hop on before the ssg fix lmao

[distant granite]

Damn that's annoying. Anywhere you know that I can follow for patch updates? I don't see a channel in here that seems to have the last TDA ones

[teal obsidian]

Throwing another log on the fire! Melee expert achievement bugged for me on PS5

[upbeat junco]

hugo said friday or monday

[harsh egret]

where did he say that?

[upbeat junco]

Maynarde's livestream from coupla hours ago

[harsh egret]

ah

[solemn mauve]

[hazy tulip]

Infernal Chasm is such a good song

[uneven mortar]

Could you please link? I'm interested to see

With timestamp if possible

[harsh egret]

he didnt say anything interesting other than that ngl, but i can confirm hugo did say that

[upbeat junco]

sure let me just look through the almost 7 hour livestream just to find the minute where he said that

😐

@uneven mortarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-yVqLKCd0&t=8060s

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[weary current]

i highly doubt that they're gonna reveal anything about the dlc at gamescom today, but who knows

[solar cairn]

There’s no point in waiting before the end of the year

In December there will be The Game Awards, it seems, this is the only major event where the trailer can be presented

[wooden dock]

Way too early for actual dlc reveals give like 2 months

[lament lotus]

So TDA allows us to recolor parryable attacks, but could we maybe get an option to do the same for non parryables?

[weary current]

fair enough

[harsh egret]

the main show was yesterday

also if u followed what hugo's been saying then its pretty obvious that the dlc isnt close to release

if you didnt well now you know :d

[weary current]

i didn't know before, tbf

[harsh egret]

all good

well tga is where i would expect it

if not, then at the xbox show whatever its called early 2026

[solar cairn]

It would be cool if the DLC was divided into 2 parts, the more content, the better

[uneven mortar]

2 parts isn't necessarily more content

[harsh egret]

^

just let them make one bigger one and thats it, and let them move on to the next game

[uneven mortar]

I think 2 DLCs would create a lack of cohesion like TAG1 and 2, where they mostly avoided mechanical callbacks and balanced them weirdly

[wooden dock]

Yeah seperating tag caused more problems than anything

[frail bloom]

No you can block or parry to cancel a switch animation so you don't get bopped, that was one of the updates

But you can't dual block in a sense

[uneven mortar]

Have they specifically mentioned a NG+ campaign at any point?

[frail bloom]

All we know is that they're working on master levels

Then we see the dev menu

[wooden dock]

Nice

[uneven mortar]

I miss when you could just buzz through a game over and over with max gear and have a balanced experience

[frail bloom]

And the devmenu says NG+

[uneven mortar]

Dev menu?

[frail bloom]

And NG+ are usually master level campaigns

Oh you don't know

#screenshots message

[lament lotus]

Nevermind I figured it out

[uneven mortar]

What is "Sp"???

[frail bloom]

Single player

[lament lotus]

Enabling "World Desaturation" fixed my issue

[uneven mortar]

Ohhh

[frail bloom]

Ye it's all coming together

[uneven mortar]

That's awesome

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[uneven mortar]

If they add a NG+ it will definitely cement TDA as my favourite FPS ever

[frail bloom]

It all lines up despite some doubting debbies

[uneven mortar]

My biggest problem with a lot of games is having to start from zero again for a balanxed experience

[frail bloom]

-working on master levels
-taking a long time
-has heard abt requests for NG+
-their literal menu has NG+ on it

[harsh egret]

I think ng+ is a code name for just the master level campaign

[uneven mortar]

I used to play dead space 2 over and over because you could just NG+ ad infinitum

[frail bloom]

That is what we want

[harsh egret]

yep

i dont think it will be an actual ng+ like some other games have it

[frail bloom]

How do other games do it

[uneven mortar]

If that's the case I kind of hope the master levels aren't quite as insanely hard as eternal's

[harsh egret]

(which im fine with, master level campaign would go crazy)

[uneven mortar]

I would like a more balanced experience if that's like, the campaign from NG+ onwards

[frail bloom]

Well if it's not that's kinda an issue since dlc won't be insanely as hard as tag 1

[uneven mortar]

Hmm true

[frail bloom]

Players need some challenge

[uneven mortar]

I guess I could just knock difficulty down to HMP

[harsh egret]

they already said they will keep those stuff for master levels

[frail bloom]

Ofc dlc is going to offer a lot of that but I mean masochistic stuff

The real tough stuff

[uneven mortar]

I think it's so weird that a big recurring opinion on TDA is that it feels like a weird experiment/spinoff thing, like this is very much THE campaign FPS, it's so fully developed in its ideas

[solar cairn]

A separate campaign from the master levels sounds like a brain explosion

[frail bloom]

My theory is that dlc is going to have the best encounters in game and won't have as much dead spaces in between like tag 2 with the fodder wavs

[uneven mortar]

If anything eternal felt kind of undercooked by comparison

[harsh egret]

i wonder if they are prepping these things for game awards or smth
imagine they pull up with:

• master level campaign/ng+ whatever the fk
• dlc announcement
• switch 2 announcement

[frail bloom]

That usually comes from not understanding the lore and not jiving with the gameplay

Usually ppl have one playthough and then they move on

[frail bloom]

Maybe

[solar cairn]

We are waiting for the Christmas stream with Hugo

[frail bloom]

That would be special

[harsh egret]

i wont be surprised if we dont get anything too big until game awards

[uneven mortar]

I honestly hope it doesn't come to switch 2, I'm sick of third party games getting handicapped so they don't kill the switch

[solar cairn]

Improvements for the Ripatorium should be

[frail bloom]

I mean it would look bad but just look at 2016 and eternal on switch 1

[frail bloom]

Ye maybe just that in between the announcements

[uneven mortar]

I feel like they'd have to include less enemies

[harsh egret]

better than not existing, and im not crazy into how the handhelds work but it was being played on the rog ally x or smth at gamescom yesterday

[frail bloom]

I don't know abt that

[harsh egret]

in some areas sure

[frail bloom]

I don't know where enemy count has affect on something

[harsh egret]

puts strain on the cpu alot of the times afaik

[uneven mortar]

Honestly I don't know if it's better than not existing even as a huge switch fan. So many games in the last decade have been scaled down or handicapped so they can run on the switch or the xbox series x lite s mini or whatever

I'm sick of budget consoles slowing software development

[frail bloom]

Hm

Alr imma post another sneak peak cuz why not

#videos message

If you can guess why the imp is orange I'll give you a cookie

[uneven mortar]

Because orange taste better than key

[wooden dock]

Its crazy they managed to port eternal to switch at all honestly. If they bother porting dark ages to switch 2 i imagine the fog is going to be quite noticable.
Im a little doubtful a port will happen though given dark ages is one of their big titles to promote gamepass on xbox

[frail bloom]

Nope

Try again

[burnt finch]

How the heck this stupid pandemonium bug happening 3 times in a row

this shit makes me wanna stop playing

and also shield bash is broken
I target at staggered mancubus it goes to imp

[green estuary]

skill issue

[burnt finch]

is this irony?

[green estuary]

No idea, I was just messing around
But shield bash isn’t buggy as far as I know
Because if it was you know people would be everywhere complaining about it

Just like they are with the ssg bug

Probably just got unlucky with enemy placement

[harsh egret]

yeah i havent seen issues with the sheild bash lol

[burnt finch]

Maybe, it happens rarely though annoying

[frail bloom]

No one has guessed

I am sadge

[harsh egret]

well i have no clue at least

[wooden dock]

Only thing with sheild bash is its sometimes inconsistant with the built up bash charge being used
I might just not know enough about the mechanic

[frail bloom]

Guess

[vivid light]

Is it normal that you can't bring up your shield with the ssg until the reload finishes?

[frail bloom]

Bug

It's a bug

[vivid light]

When are they going to fix that it's been way too long

Genuinely the ssg is unusable

[frail bloom]

Should be fixed friday or monday

They did fix it last week but it allowed for quickswapping really fast which is a no no

[green estuary]

Bro do people only use the ssg against superheavies or something

[harsh egret]

are people over-reliant on the ssg?

[wooden dock]

Its useful for finishing off enemies like arachnotron and mancubus
Sheild bash + ssg is still a reliable combo since it typically staggers the targetted enemy anyhow

I did a whole playthrough with the bug now and it was kinda nice learning to rely on other weapons, though i still really miss its reliability

[vivid light]

Cycler + impaler is so goated

I'd honestly say the fully upgraded combat shotgun is better than the ssg in combat rn tho

The burn for armour is great and it isn't bad for dps on imps

Ssg just puts you in such a huge disadvantage with how you can't protect yourself

[frail bloom]

Not intentional tho

It'll be fixed

[wooden dock]

I mean the tradeoff back then was still that it takes longer to block but it wasnt a literal handicap on the weapon

[vivid light]

Thank god I haven't finished pandemonium yet so I can finish UN with the SSG fixed

Also is Pandemonium bugged? I didn't lose my entire save after dying with 0 extra lives

[burnt finch]

There is a stupid bug in pandemonium or normal campaign bug
I'll send it to videos

And I dont know why some life sigils doesnt exist in level

[frail bloom]

Lol that update introduced sooo many bugs that weren't in the game before

Maybe balancing is almost done but they got a lot of bugs to fix

[frosty dagger]

there's a glitch or bug that constantly makes me become invincible

[wheat sigil]

you don't only need to parry against superheavies

you have to parry a lot in the parry-based game

[green estuary]

I wasn't aware

but outside of trying to use it against barons or cyberdemons I legitimately never have problems using it

calling it unuseable is an enormous overexaggeration

[wheat sigil]

not really
no outstanding damage, no long range capabilities in tandem with the block-bug makes it severely worse in almost all situations compared to other choices

and then you also have to consider the fact that swapping out of it is a pain, making it even more of a commitment

very large commitment + no big benefits just makes it very weak

having weapon with large commitment is fine, as that forces accountabillty on the part of the player and is a way to balance an otherwise overpowered weapon
however, the commitment with the ssg is not being able to engage with a fundamental aspect of tda's combat loop, and you can't swap out of it easily to utilize other portions of your arsenal, which feels very clunky

and with it not being overpowered there's no real reason to commit to it

[green estuary]

I never really used it as a delete-everything weapon
but the ability to just instantly remove incredibly opressive pressure units (arachnotrons, revenants, whiplashes) is just really valuable even with the nerfs
that said, I modded my game to revert the nerfs anyway lmao

and I would agree with the nerfs it's pretty damn unuseable early on
because every early game heavy has big damage mitigation against it

[wheat sigil]

it puts you in a very awkward position however, and often that isn't a worthile trade-off for being able to nuke something slightly faster
you can replace the ssg almost everywhere with little downside, but you can't put yourself in a volatile and more uncertain position with minimal downsides

and with minimal restacking, any damage is very costly

[frail bloom]

In other words

Ssg is poo poo

[wheat sigil]

sure, pressure units will also increase chance of damage, but you can for the most part avoid a lot of things with the slow enemies, and again, you can replace the ssg

[frail bloom]

👍

[wheat sigil]

samir the concise

[frail bloom]

Exactomento

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-winnie-the-pooh-tigger-sad-disappear-gif-25009198

[frail bloom]

Ngl felt a little sad there

[green estuary]

hurts my soul

never thought I'd see the day

[hearty edge]

same

i have used the ssg like 10 times on this playthrough

makes me realize how good the impaler chainshot and rocket launcher are

[silent surge]

if you go back and replay a level the sigils stay gone too

[silent surge]

chainshot prob the weakest at higher level play, but nice for the armor break. especially if you play low damage to demons

higher level play meaning like @inner cradle , i’ve talked to him about the chainshot in a comment a little before

[frail bloom]

I want to use omni sprint like muricaneagle does but Hugo is being stubborn

Rooooaar

[hearty edge]

yea i'm mostly a casual

and i use the impaler and rocket more anyway

[viral geode]

Hello

[neon perch]

I use it exclusively for Vagaries.

Absolutely hauls them.

[silent surge]

may give that a shot. grenade launcher works well too. rockets as well with parries

chainshot though def could with the armor

[viral geode]

I'm a big casual and I was wondering if it's normal that I keep finding 0 collectibles and 0 secret at the end of each stage? 😭
Are they just like super well hidden?

[graceful lion]

theyre around the map, not really at the end or start

if you look everywhere, youll find stuff

[hearty edge]

i got all of them with basically no help on my first playthrough but i might be js a weirdo so idk

i always use the minimap

[viral geode]

Oh yeah I barely used the minimap so far. I'll try spending more time in each level I guess

But at the same time I don't want to linger around too much, I want to keep the momentum going

blasting through the levels as fast as possible

[exotic jetty]

I completed doom tda on UN

[left tiger]

hello

[verbal void]

Platnuming TDA on ps5
22/29 trophies

[frail bloom]

Alr let's play a game

What demons are stronger or weaker in dark ages compared to eternal

(Road trip ahhh questions)

[solid nacelle]

Whiplashes come to mind as being stronger in dark ages

[verbal void]

All of them in TDA are weak
Unless you’re talking about early game

[frail bloom]

Falseee

Lets start with the zombie

No comment.

[verbal void]

Eternal

[solid nacelle]

At least health wise, I think they might actually be easier to deal with though

[frail bloom]

Now soldier

What abt the soldier

Stronger or weaker

https://tenor.com/view/no-reply-talk-to-the-wall-wand-reden-keine-antwort-gif-14846304

[solid nacelle]

I think pretty much all the fodder are weaker

[frail bloom]

Yurp

Now the pinky imo is stronger

Takes much more to take it down

[solid nacelle]

My charged shield bash and chain shot say otherwise!

[frail bloom]

Bruh you can one tap ssg the pinky in eternal

[solid nacelle]

True

[frail bloom]

He's usually just manuever then blast

Now since there are no prowlers

We can compare the prowler to the stalker

Stalker takes more to bring down, but since the prowler teleports and is rather elusive, I say the prowler wins as a more tough enemy

Alr eternal hell knight vs dark ages hell knight

[neon perch]

Fodder in TDA are glass cannons which is fair. Problem is their basic attack is fine but their charged 'specials' are annoying and shitty.

[solid nacelle]

Ik the eternal hell knight had some high framerate shenanigans

[frail bloom]

Ye that's why you gotta sweep them asap

[neon perch]

Looking at you tesla coil wall bullshit that blocks projectiles and homes in on you.

[frail bloom]

Ye he's the winner

Dark ages manc or eternal manc

This one is obvious

[neon perch]

Eternal breaks above 60FPS lol.

Melee from enemies is genuine horseshit.

[frail bloom]

We're gonna do allll the demons

Cuz I'm bored

[neon perch]

The Eternal manc is easily its most lethal incarnation since the classics. And even then in classic Doom his projectiles are easily dealt with.

[frail bloom]

Alr moving on to the next enemy

[solid nacelle]

Im going to say dark ages manc because of the mortar variant

[frail bloom]

Hmmm nuh uh

[neon perch]

Plus I love its design. I love that it looks ready to chew you up and spit you out.

[frail bloom]

Alr dark ages lost soul vs eternal lost soul

This one is easy

Who's tougher to fight

C'mon keep going I'm having fun😢

Aw man

YIPEE

[solid nacelle]

Eternal lost souls have smaller hit boxes but I think the ones in dark ages can be funny sometimes

[frail bloom]

Eternal lost souls don't function really

Imma give it to dark ages

Alr what's a tougher first boss, vagary or doom hunter

[solid nacelle]

Yeah theyre honestly kinda pathetic in eternal

[frail bloom]

Ye sad

[solid nacelle]

The vagary I think has less going on than the doom hunter did

[frail bloom]

Ye it might take you 20 sec if you know what you're doing

[neon perch]

Eternal's hitboxes are so ridiculously tiny it sometimes pisses me off.

[frail bloom]

Um what's next

Oh ye, Tyrant or cyberdemon?

[neon perch]

Cyberdemon.

[frail bloom]

Ye tyrants are giant bums

Walking goofs

[neon perch]

I appreciate the Tyrant for attempting to bring back the OG design but they changed it too much. It looks like a giant pale hamshank instead of a roided out beeftank like the original.

[solid nacelle]

The cyberdemon has crazy long range power

[frail bloom]

He very much does

But he's clumsy

[solid nacelle]

Up close he's kind of a joke

[neon perch]

The Cyberdemon is also funny to kill because he's hopeless.

Buffed/possessed Tyrants are great.

[frail bloom]

Alr battle knight or dread knight

[neon perch]

The 2016 Cyberdemon is a fun boss fight even if design wise he looks like a geriatric golem with a bad back.

[frail bloom]

This one is tough

[solid nacelle]

Battle knights are pretty easy to read most of the time so they're generally a non threat

[neon perch]

BKs feel better to fight and have a better design in all honesty. DK looks like an action figure.

[frail bloom]

Ye dread knights are on crack most the time

[frail bloom]

We mean in terms of difficulty not what you prefer overall

(But yes I agree)

[neon perch]

Yeah DKs are bullshit because you literally can't read their ground pound attack half the time. They just appear to hit you whenever they like.

[frail bloom]

Alr eternal whiplash or dark ages whiplash

[neon perch]

The AOE is annoying as hell too and deals ridiculous amounts of damage.

[frail bloom]

Who's tougher

[neon perch]

I think it's a tie. DE Whiplash is annoying as hell but TDA's is way tankier than it should be.

[frail bloom]

Ye if you're not careful eternal can take you out but most the time I lean on dark ages

[neon perch]

Also TDA's can slither around the floor and randomly ignores stun effects.

Jank as hell.

[solid nacelle]

Having the shield makes them fairly easy to deal with I think

[frail bloom]

Lock on or ice bomb should do the trick for eternal

[neon perch]

I've had Whiplashes break out of stun with HS.

[frail bloom]

Or microwave beam

[solid nacelle]

This was pretty annoying I'm pretty sure melee just doesn't work at all when they're in this state

[neon perch]

Simply because they felt like not being stunned anymore.

[frail bloom]

Oh I got one

Riot soldier vs chaingunner soldier

This one is easy

[solid nacelle]

Riot soldiers are a joke, even though the chaingunner can have his shield broken he still has high damage and aggression

[frail bloom]

Yup exactly

Um armored manc or cybermanc

[solid nacelle]

Cyber mancs in eternal are a joke with the blood punch

Literally just meathook into a shotgun blast then blood punch for a free glory kill

[frail bloom]

Ye unless you don't have a bloodpunch

[neon perch]

Manc variants are kinda pointless across 2016 to TDA.

[frail bloom]

Armored mancs are just monstrous

[neon perch]

Literally the same enemy but with an added AOE that's easily dodged.

[frail bloom]

Hmmm, agaddon hunter or marauder

[neon perch]

In TDA they do nothing except shoot an easily parriable attack.

[frail bloom]

Oh boi this one

[neon perch]

I think it's a tie honestly but AHs are more fun to fight.

[solid nacelle]

Agaddons are much more polished, marauders are on crack sometimes

[neon perch]

Marauder's design and attitude are peak though.

[frail bloom]

I think it might be a tie too

[neon perch]

FUCK BUFFED/POSSESSED MARAUDERS.

[frail bloom]

Those are just broken they don't work

They're not fun to fight at all

[neon perch]

And they insisted on doing multiple times across TAG 1 and 2.

[frail bloom]

Ok hybrid caco or eternal caco
Who's tougher

This one is a cakewalk

[neon perch]

I hate how TAG leaned into the worst aspects of Eternal. The base campaign was fine but they changed too much story wise and balance wise both DLCs were all over the place.

[solid nacelle]

I like when they run right up to your face so you think he's gonna swing his axe but he's actually thinking of using his shotgun. And because you attacked him at the wrong time he's going to also summon his wolf

[neon perch]

They should've just been a single level pack consisting of 7 maps. No story/plot, no new enemies.

[frail bloom]

Ye there was no middle ground

Which one

[solid nacelle]

I hate the hybrid cacodemon

[frail bloom]

Ye he's jank so he's tougher

His parryable is too fast sometimss

[neon perch]

Marauders are a nice concept but execution wise they're total shit. Not hard, just either INHUMANLY annoying or a cakewalk depending on the circumstance.

[frail bloom]

I got a good one

[solid nacelle]

That thing is just legitimately bugged

[frail bloom]

Dark ages revenant or eternal revenant

This one is eaaassyy

[mental grotto]

I truly enjoyed tag 1, but tag 2 was kinda ass

Leaned way too hard into the “this demon can only be killed 1 specific way” gimmick

[neon perch]

TAG 2 is shit from the butt. Reclaimed Earth and Immora look cool though.

[frail bloom]

Which demon, besides the cursed prowler

[mental grotto]

Aesthetic-wise tag 2 is amazing.

[solid nacelle]

In dark ages they actually pose a challenge for once

[neon perch]

It also fed into the myth that the entire campaign was like that when it wasn't. Eternal never forced you into a particular way to dispatch enemies in the base campaign but they actively leaned into it for the new enemies.

[frail bloom]

Ok cosmic baron or eternal baron

[neon perch]

TDA's Revenant is also the only one in all 3 games to be permanently airborne around despite not having a jetpack like 2016 and Eternal. It's so funny.

It also isn't a joke like in either game.

[frail bloom]

Ye he's a spooky ghost

[neon perch]

Although DE's Revenant can fuck you up if you're careless. 2016's just looks cool but does nothing.

[frail bloom]

Dark ages wins for me

Rev that is

Now cosmic or eternal baron

[mental grotto]

Stone imps = absurd resistance to every gun except auto shotgun
Armored baron = need precision weapon unless you wanna waste half ur mag of plasma
Cursed prowlers obviously
Screechers don’t have this problem, but seriously? Recolored zombies?

Obviously spirit is tag 1 but Im also critical of the fact that they can ONLY be killed with the microwave beam

[frail bloom]

Ohhh ok

Makes sense

[neon perch]

TDA's Baron is terrifying and I love it but it's a little overtuned, applies WAY too much pressure. Eternal's just jumps around and 2016's is just a bigger, slower, dumber imp with easily avoidable attacks.

[frail bloom]

Alr what else am I missing

[solid nacelle]

With the way the parrying and falter system works it's kind of easy to dispatch a cosmic baron, provided no interruptions

[frail bloom]

Ye but if you have 3 that's horrifying compared to 5 barons in eternal

[solid nacelle]

True

[mental grotto]

Eternal baron is kinda lame. Missed opportunity to make him pink with green blood like the classics (like how caco had blue blood)

[frail bloom]

Should've been in dark ages too

But bygones are bygones

What other demon am I missing

Oh!

Acolyte or archvile

[neon perch]

Yeah I don't understand why they changed the Cacodemon to be more like its classic iteration but changed the Baron. I get that it's to make its damage more easily readable but it's not visually interesting. Just a rock golem that bleeds lava. Same for the Archvile.

[mental grotto]

I can forgive them for wanting to add some cosmic-themed enemies. Cosmic baron is pretty cool and I appreciate them changing some things up. You can only go “look guys this game’s demon designs are all classic!” So many times

Gotta have variation between the games

[frail bloom]

Ye I can understand that

But his goat design was only seen in the eternal gladiator

[neon perch]

The Gladiator was so fucking peak.

[frail bloom]

Ye was soooo awesome

[mental grotto]

Yeah I definitely agree with this.

[neon perch]

Fav boss fight across all 3 games honestly, up there with the Mastermind.

[solid nacelle]

Both are pretty big pressure units but I think the archvile can get more chaotic

[frail bloom]

Ye I agree

Hmmm

Kreed mayker or khan mayker

[mental grotto]

I gotta disagree. His design is really cool but he’s kind of just a big marauder

[neon perch]

The Vile is lethal if left unattended. Acolytes exist I guess.

[frail bloom]

Acolytes have this purple attack out of the ground which drain your health but otherwise really weak

[neon perch]

They leaned on Marauder style enemies a little too hard for both it and Davoth. The Hell Guards in 2016 were also big Marauders and sucked dick to fight lol.

[frail bloom]

Since I can't have a classic baron, I'm hoping for a classic archvile and cosmic pain elemental

In dlc

[green estuary]

I bet you somebody down the road is gonna make a regular baron skin mod for the cosmic baron

[frail bloom]

But they can't model it

[neon perch]

I love that the Gladiator fight plays out like an actual gladiator arena 1v1. You wittle him down bit by bit. The punches and jabs inbetween shots are cool as hell.

[mental grotto]

The problem with eternal’s boss fights is that you could dish out such a high DPS that the only way for them to make good boss fights was to either A. Give the boss a massive health bar or B. Restrict you from dealing damage to the boss until certain criteria are met. Eternal’s mid boss fights are a product of its gameplay unfortunately

[frail bloom]

ID hasen't made a classic baron yet in the modern games

[green estuary]

Dude the hell guards were awesome
The first phase was a little boring but the second phase where they both went ham is sick

[verbal void]

Wrong channel but which combat shotgun mastery should i get first(eternal UN)

[frail bloom]

Closest is 2016 but he is more buglike

[green estuary]

Sticky bombs

5 spot is goated

[verbal void]

What abt heavy cannon when i get to it

[neon perch]

I don't know, I'm indifferent toward the HGs because their design is just so bad.

[wheat sigil]

pb mastery isn't very useful, if you use mm it's useful though

[verbal void]

What about the mini bombs(forgot its name)

[frail bloom]

Noooo go to eternal

Pls

[green estuary]

Headshot blast is kinda cool but unnecessary because it does the same thing as a sticky bomb

[neon perch]

Baby rock golems controlled by RGB worms that swing giant rattlers around and shoot neon green attacks. It's the most confusing moment tonally in 2016.

[frail bloom]

What would a cosmic pain elemental look like

[frail bloom]

Hell guards were pretty weird but I liked them I guess

[green estuary]

Hopefully we won’t get to see
Because ideally the dlc would give us new scenery

[verbal void]

Imps are the bane of my existence

[mental grotto]

14 yr old me was not thinking about this when fighting them lmao. I just saw something new to kill on the screen and enthusiastically did so, but yeah they are pretty weird

[frail bloom]

Screw you I want a pain elemental, cosmic or not

Alr how would an archvile work in dark ages

I'm making an animation abt it so I have my version fleshed out

[mental grotto]

Give it the classic attack where you need to run for cover in time or else you get zapped? Might work well with tda’s horizontal gameplay if the levels are designed around him

[frail bloom]

Ye I agree 100%

He needs an unparryable zap

You can block it but you'll have little shield health left

[mental grotto]

Or maybe he could summon lines of fire towards you that would linger on the battlefield and block off escape routes

[verbal void]

Chainshot and ssg in the corner:

[frail bloom]

Also doing that

How would he handle enemies

[mental grotto]

Just thinking out loud

[green estuary]

Yeah I don’t mind a pain elemental
Cosmic I do mind because that would mean they’re reusing stuff, as much as I liked the cosmic realm

[neon perch]

TDA is big on enemies telegraphing attacks which is cool. I could see something like the classic Vile working perfectly.

[frail bloom]

Hm so do you think we shouldn't visit the cosmic realm anymore

Y'all are reading my mind

Y'all gonna like the animation I'm making

[verbal void]

Nah, wanna rip and tear the cosmic realm again
for daisy…

[frail bloom]

Ok bruh

[mental grotto]

Before they added a shitton of respawning enemies to the game, I’d say give him the ability to resurrect demons like the classics. We aren’t quite at the technical level yet where we can have corpses remain on-screen but we’re close, limbs don’t despawn anymore

[verbal void]

Anything but summoning bigger and worser demons😔🙏

[frail bloom]

You can make him resurrect from the limbs, and make them ghost enemies like davoths enemies

How davoth makes those orange dudes

I should show y'all an example

[mental grotto]

But if enemies can respawn, Archie shouldn’t be able to directly resurrect anyone. I’d say make him buff demons in the arena, maybe via a telegraphed attack (parryable to deny the buff?)

[mental grotto]

That’s not a bad idea either

[frail bloom]

#videos message

This is the only peak of the archvile y'all get

[verbal void]

Okay thats just op

[frail bloom]

Lmao

[mental grotto]

Imagine if he has to wipe his ass 💔🥀🥀

[frail bloom]

Ye I was thinking he takes body parts and reconstructs them as weaker ghost variants

[verbal void]

Ok that’s fine

[graceful lion]

horrible fate, would not wish that on my most hated demon 🙏

[wheat sigil]

we need him to buff demons until the encounter is over, even if he dies

[graceful lion]

10x stacked marauder

[frail bloom]

He also can't be shield bashed stunned or shield throw locked

He just backhands your shield throw

And tanks your shield bash

(Like all superheavies)

[verbal void]

Then there will be one hope
THE CHAINSHOT!!!

[frail bloom]

Good luck

[mental grotto]

I don’t hate this idea, I think this goes well with giving him a telegraphed buffing attack that can be parried to prevent it

[frail bloom]

I don't like the buffing idea but maybe??

I'll think abt it

It does sound cool

[verbal void]

I’ll take anything as long as its weakness is the chainshot

[frail bloom]

Nope

[wheat sigil]

transitory buffing just means hiding rhe archie and rhe player rushing for him

[frail bloom]

He has no weaknesses, you gotta fight him fr

[verbal void]

Chainshot still gonna cook em

[frail bloom]

And btw he walks reallhy fast a lot

[mental grotto]

This is true, because this is exactly what I did in eternal lol. Archvile on screen, complete fucking tunnel vision

[frail bloom]

I don't wanna hide the archvile

In my version he's there front and center and commands the field

[solid nacelle]

What if you had an archvile that could not only resurrect demons from the limbs that lay on the battle field, but can also combine parts from different demons to make create monsters with differing attack patterns

[frail bloom]

Ok the latter is too much

But I already animated the former

But I deleted it

Biggshane is the only witness

And Sink I guess

[wheat sigil]

ya exactly

[mental grotto]

Gave bro some TALONS lmao. I like it though, keep up the good work man

[frail bloom]

Gotta deflect that throw somehow

I was thinking he parries your shield throw and you have to catch it which causes a shock wave

[mental grotto]

What are your thoughts on a tda archvile having a parryable buff attack? And if you fail to parry it, they get buffed for the duration of the encounter. Kinda thinking out loud here, that may be too punishing

Just thinking of ways to make the archvile a high priority target that demands your attention

[frail bloom]

I'm unsure on it

[mental grotto]

I really like the idea of an enemy that parries your shield throws back lmao

[green estuary]

just make him resurrect stuff
and the stuff he resurrects is a buffed version of that demon

and give him the doom 2 line of sight attack as well

[frail bloom]

So far he can:
-deflect shield throw
-tank shield bash
-resurrect enemies
-doom 2 zap attack
-fire hazards
-fire projectiles

[graceful lion]

ooooh, maybe some sort of projectile that can absorb some of the slayer's strength (kinda like a dot effect) that buffs a demon for a bit if u fail to block it

[frail bloom]

A buff seems like too much

[graceful lion]

if u fail to block it a random demon gets big damaged

or the archvile thatd make more sense

spell redirection

[mental grotto]

R-E-D-I-R-E-C-T-I-O-N

Phew

[wheat sigil]

an attack directed at the player, which if not parried will buff everything?

[frail bloom]

Ew

Leave out the buffing

[graceful lion]

i uh, sure

[wheat sigil]

so far we only got the most boring ass buffs

[mental grotto]

Something along those lines

[wheat sigil]

yayy... more hp..!

[frail bloom]

I want him more classic like

So no buffs

An indirect way of doing it is for him to ressurect an enforcer demon

[green estuary]

nahh make the resurrected demons have speed/attack buffs

[frail bloom]

The blue guys

[frail bloom]

But weaker hp

[green estuary]

nah give em full HP

[frail bloom]

Nope

[wheat sigil]

aka boring ass buff
bab for short

[frail bloom]

I don't want any buffs

[green estuary]

why not

[wheat sigil]

#DownWithTheBABs

[frail bloom]

Convince me otherwise

[mental grotto]

Like he puts his arms up and there’s a visual/audio indicator and if you don’t rush him and parry it point blank, the buff will activate. Not sure how this would work in practice just throwing shit at a wall seeing what sticks

[mental grotto]

Daisy buff. Increase demon jump height 500%. Death from above

Raining pinkies

[frail bloom]

Maybe that's when shiel bash is effective

Alr I throw in the towel

[green estuary]

I mean his summoning could be interrupted by just about anything in eternal, same could be in TDA for his resurrection
but his line of sight attack could maybe only be interrupted by a shield bash, but you'll need to be prepared to parry a couple melee attacks afterwards

[frail bloom]

He can now buff demons in a telegraphed attaxk

[mental grotto]

This is a really solid idea, shield bashing him knocks him out of the devil-magic animation but he has a follow-up parryable melee combo

[frail bloom]

Alr he's complete

Now I can go crazy

[green estuary]

noooo remove the telegraphing
make people deal with buffed demons

[solid nacelle]

He fires a slow moving projectile towards other demons that can be dissipated by parrying it

[frail bloom]

But they have to deal with his hazards and zaps, what if you want two archviles?

I want to telegraph it

He can already ressurect demons when he wants

[green estuary]

welp then you just gotta take one out before the other one is able to resurrect too much stuff

[mental grotto]

Insider info from Hugo Martin: archvile in the DLC will sprint towards your character and whisper in your ear “doom fart ages” which will instantly kill you, crash your game, and brick your computer. Bravo, id!

[frail bloom]

Fine but no health buffs

[solid nacelle]

10/10

[frail bloom]

Only speed buffs

No attack buffs

That's all I negotiate

[green estuary]

well yeah health buffs are boring asf

[mental grotto]

I kinda agree with m1 here there have gotta be more creative buffs than “increase x stat”

[frail bloom]

End of story

Now imma animate

[mental grotto]

Idea: part of the archvile buff makes demon attacks un-parryable? This might be so fucking ass in practice

Archvile plus baron would be an unbeatable combo lol

[wheat sigil]

agaddon shield bash

[mental grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[frail bloom]

Nope

That sounds horrible

He already does a bunch

No offense

[green estuary]

bruh

[mental grotto]

Agreed, like I said throwing shit at a wall seeing what sticks

[frail bloom]

It's alr I have what I need

[wheat sigil]

what's he doing

[mental grotto]

Well im moreso brainstorming for what he might look like in tda if he were to be added, not necessarily saying he needs to do everything we listed

[frail bloom]

Well he can:
-parry your shield throw
-tank your shield bash
-resurrect ghost enemies
-buff other enemies with a speed buff by existing
-throw fire hazards that stick
-throw fire projectiles
-zap you with an unparryable telegraphed yellow zap

His health is a bit below a cosmic barons

Just to compensate

Now throw a couple chaingunners and revenants and you got a plutonia encounter

[wheat sigil]

dam he's overpowered

[frail bloom]

Yup he's perfect

The perfect archvile

[hearty edge]

i freaking hope not

[frail bloom]

Too late

[hearty edge]

actually parrying the shield throw would be funny

winter soldier ahh

[solid nacelle]

Azhrak already got his winter soldier reference

Guys I'm starting to think Hugo Martin watches too many marvel movies

[green estuary]

wait him catching the shield was a winter soldier reference?
I'm kinda stupid huh

[scenic lichen]

does anyone else hope they split the resource slider into 3 sliders? 1 for health, 1 for armor, 1 for ammo

i find that at lowest resource option ammo is fine but health and armor are harsh

[verbal void]

The fact that im better on UN than UV

[green estuary]

what

[frail bloom]

Ye well if you lower the sliders then that throws things off

[green estuary]

if you unironically lower the sliders for UN I kinda respect you a little less ngl

[verbal void]

I didn’t even modify

And im not even taking health damage

[green estuary]

so
you did better on your ultra nightmare run than you're currently doing on ultra violence? or am I missing something

because if that's the case then the math ain't mathing

[verbal void]

Ultra violence being harder than UN is crazy

[green estuary]

but
it isn't 😭

what are you talking about

[hearty edge]

nah it isnt

[verbal void]

For me it is

[hearty edge]

i havent died nearly as much rn on nightmare but thats js bc i'm better at the game

[verbal void]

honestly same
Thats why im not taking that much dmg

[hearty edge]

ya

oh my i died in the atlan

never happened to me before

[verbal void]

Whats the death animation

I gotta look it up

Can’t find any searches

Smh

[hearty edge]

didnt see it that well but u kinda just fall to the ground

i think an arm fell off

and the screen glitches

[thorny yarrow]

Think I found my favorite way to deal with Komodos.

Shock them with the Cycler, then switch to the accelerator and heat blast the shit out of them.

[hearty edge]

imma try that when i get to level 12

[verbal void]

Just finished ch 1 UN

[green estuary]

bro was calling UN easy but he's only done the first level 😭

[verbal void]

Hey dude on UV I wouldn’t stop dying😔

[hearty edge]

same

[verbal void]

Said it was ez cause it was nothing compared to eternal & 2016

[hearty edge]

honestly i think the first level from 2016 is the hardest first level in any doom game

[verbal void]

On UN yeah but otherwise, nah

Went through it ez

[hearty edge]

yea i was talking un

[verbal void]

Oh.

The imps are the bane of my existence

[hearty edge]

but still i found the 1st level in eternal and tda easier

actually maybe eternal outside un is a bit harder

[verbal void]

Js got shield saw😎

[green estuary]

foundry and resource ops are harder
1st level isn't too bad

[verbal void]

Excluding getting sniped by imps, 1st level isn’t too bad like you said

[hearty edge]

why am i doing so badly on the atlan wtf

[green estuary]

because it's lowk hard now

lots of enemies from offscreen

[hearty edge]

ya

[verbal void]

Perfect dodge and dodge behind to use your palm attack

[hearty edge]

im trying but im always getting those backshots

[verbal void]

Then stomp

You do not understand the joy i get when i kill imps

[frail bloom]

Very nice way to mix affects or your arsenal, you can use the gauntlets aswell

[hearty edge]

yea fuk them imps

in 2016 and here

in eternal they arent bad i hate the gargyoles more

[verbal void]

I like how almost no one references chainshot

That gun carried my runs

Holy s##t that rhymed

[hearty edge]

i like it

but i prefer others

ahem impaler

[verbal void]

Chainshot + dreadmace = good boss and super heavy demon combo

[hearty edge]

id prefer the rocket launcher there

[verbal void]

Forgot that existed in TDA

[green estuary]

the rocket launcher would unironically be great against ahzrak
but the goddamn explosion particle effects actually makes it a little hard to read his attacks lmao

[frail bloom]

Well you shouldn't

Cuz it's very useful

[verbal void]

I love meatriding chainshot ❤️

[wooden dock]

Get the projectile parry upgrade on reocket and it's a beast against ranged demons.
I find rocket to just be ok for close range fights, its more of a healing tool there

[hearty edge]

it does do heavy damage but i agree it serves as healing

which is still important

[verbal void]

Power surge shield upgrade is peak

[hearty edge]

which one is dat one

[digital nacelle]

Isn't that form the dark ages?

[verbal void]

Bounces off to nearby demons from shield throwing energy shields

[hearty edge]

we are on the dark ages channel

[verbal void]

Second shield upgrade

[digital nacelle]

Just realized

[hearty edge]

oh yea its very fun

[verbal void]

I feel like kreed maykr was useless mid game

[hearty edge]

kreed maykr is a fraud

[verbal void]

“I worked for kreed maykr. Hes a fraud” ahh

[hearty edge]

holy swarm my sweet baby

although i think i will try out the shock one more

[verbal void]

Love the leader death cutscenes

Ch 3 time

[hearty edge]

yea

[hearty edge]

holy shoot you finished 2 already

ig i'm slow for getting all the secrets every time

[verbal void]

Yeah. On the armored titan part of 3 now

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/reiner-braun-armour-titan-snk-aot-attack-on-titan-gif-19462013

[verbal void]

Ez ch 3

[hearty edge]

yea chapter 3 takes like 10 minutes

[verbal void]

Hopefully the champions easy

[frail bloom]

Should be an enemy in doom ngl

Big titan humanoid

[verbal void]

For me 5 or less

[green estuary]

I'd be more scared of the chaingunners

[verbal void]

Does anyone else use the electrical stomp???

[frail bloom]

Well duh

[hearty edge]

i do now that the atlan is harder

[frail bloom]

Shock them for free and then run

[verbal void]

Wdym duh? No one i seen ever did it

[hearty edge]

its sometimes a life saver fr

[frail bloom]

Who the hell you looking at

Seriously now

Where are these statistics coming from

[hearty edge]

well tbf on my first playthrough i didnt use it

granted i was on uv and the atlan was easy peasy

[hearty edge]

the vagary ez af

the aggadon might be some trouble bc they added some mancubi

komodo idk

[verbal void]

Love them glory kill animations

Especially mancubi and hell knight

[hearty edge]

yea

the hell knight is literally js the evolution of 2016 and eternal

i wish they have kept the triple slash for the whiplash tho

instead of the standard jump and kill

[frail bloom]

They can't really

Cuz that is a front glory kill

There are only ariel glory kills

[hearty edge]

yea

[frail bloom]

The only way is to randomise the arial glorykills

So more variety with less angles involved

[verbal void]

Js got the impaler😈

[frail bloom]

But it's too late, might as well move on

[verbal void]

Impaler js one shot a pinky

#2 fav weapon now

[hearty edge]

its way too op i use it almost all the time

but i think the rocket is funner to use

oh wait actually i would say the accelerator is my favorite

[verbal void]

Guys on vagary now

Wish me luck

[green estuary]

don't step in the acid and lose all of your health

[verbal void]

Just completed it easily

Impalers the goat

Onto ch 5

[hearty edge]

how

[verbal void]

Speedrunning ig

[hearty edge]

well tbf if i didnt go all the time looking for all the secrets i would probably complete the levels in 10-20 mins

except siege 1 that's the largest level i think

[verbal void]

UN so easy tbh

[frail bloom]

Ye I don't believe you one bit

[verbal void]

Ig im just good

[frail bloom]

But UV is harder for some reason

Which is objectively false

[verbal void]

Thats why i said UN is easier

Nvm Its only hard if your new

[frail bloom]

Does anyone believe this guy

[hearty edge]

i gotta say i feel like this game has the best difficulty curve in nu doom

[frail bloom]

I think so too

[hearty edge]

2016 starts out hard and gets easy bc of siege and double ssg

eternal starts out ok but then the dlcs make it a huge skill ceiling

[frail bloom]

Levels get gradually harder, there are no spikes

[hearty edge]

and this one starts easy and ends harder

[green estuary]

after update 2 for sure
2016 is absurdly hard at the beginning but can be trivialized afterwards
eternal has randomly difficult levels in between not-so hard ones
but tda is fairly consistent

[hearty edge]

ya exactly

[frail bloom]

alr imma keep playing the campaign

[hearty edge]

no u are not

[frail bloom]

I think I'm on resurrection which I heard had the biggest changes

So can't wait to see that

[hearty edge]

oh cool i wanna see that too

im still at level what like 11

[green estuary]

updated resurrection is peak

[frail bloom]

Ye I'll tell you if I notice

[green estuary]

oh you'll notice lmao

[frail bloom]

Did reckoning change at all?

[hearty edge]

this agaddon leader just violated me

[verbal void]

Lock in

[frail bloom]

The day I don't skip cutscenes is the day ID has made the best story for doom

[hearty edge]

no i will lock out

[frail bloom]

No, 2016 does not count

It's unskippable

[hearty edge]

i didnt skip them on my first playtrough but afterwards i do it every time

[frail bloom]

Same

But I mean for like 5 more playthroughs

[hearty edge]

although when i get to harbor of souls i wont skip it bc they are rage brutal without mercy

[lean oasis]

Hi

[verbal void]

I HAVE GOT THE CYCLER
DEMONS BEWARE

[frail bloom]

Wow the vagary encounter was much better

[hearty edge]

accelerator better

[frail bloom]

Real good so far

[verbal void]

I have now gotten ssg

[frail bloom]

I feel more stalkers

Of the nightmare variety

Damn the leader komodo has like 5 mancubi now

Pretty tough

A komodo and a cyberdemon is a good idea!

Too bad there's a berserk there, so I just spammed mace

But good idea nonetheless

[solid nacelle]

Dude the agaddon just completely ignored my kick wtf

[frail bloom]

That can happen rarely

[verbal void]

I’VE GOT THE CHAINSHOT

[solid nacelle]

I just had another glitch with the agaddon where he went into daze but his shield was active so I couldn't do anything. My stupid xbox won't let me record shit

[green estuary]

damn tda is buggy on console huh

[verbal void]

It came out 3 months ago what do you expect

[solid nacelle]

Seems like it. There's this other bug where if my controller disconnects or dies or whatever then the game will reset my custom binds back to default and I have to set them all again

[green estuary]

just the distinction between console and pc
because I've basically never encountered any in-combat bugs when playing on steam

there have been the occasional weird checkpoint soft-locks but nothing actually in-combat for me

[unreal terrace]

that happens to me all the time even when my controller is perfectly fine

like it'll be the middle of a fight and boom all my weapon binds are gone

[frail bloom]

Doom the buggy ages

Amiright fellas

[frank turtle]

I miss ssg

funnest weapon to use and it unusable

[frail bloom]

It's not dead

Just in a coma

[verbal void]

Wym im using it rn

[frail bloom]

I wonder how Kreed feels now

[verbal void]

Dead

[frail bloom]

I mean the fight but haha funny joke

[verbal void]

Scared

[frail bloom]

I like the eye projectiles

Finished it

[frank turtle]

[verbal void]

UN is surprisingly ez

[frail bloom]

Why is the old one so hard all of the sudden

[delicate grotto]

Not for me. The only consistent bug I’ve had is an animation issue. If you’ve got auto sprint on and complete a climb or interactable animation, the Slayer doesn’t go back into his running animation until after a 1-2 second delay.

So he just sorta glides across the floor for a sec

[frail bloom]

q ajaiajjajzjs

[delicate grotto]

Other than that, my game’s been pretty bug free. A couple softlock issues but nothing strictly tied to the console version of the game.

[frail bloom]

FINALLY

They added some dumb attack in the ahzrak fight

It's some homing red diamond that you can't dodge and it breaks your shield instantly

Ok reckoning time

[frank turtle]

?

[frail bloom]

I took like 15 min on the old one boss fight

[flat oak]

Is that SSG block delay fixed yet?

[frail bloom]

Should be friday

[flat oak]

Oh good

[hexed dagger]

source?

[frail bloom]

Hugo said it on last maniard stream

Should be friday, or monday

92 hrs in dark ages

I'm all campaigned out

I think I have a couple ripatorium stuff I might try, then I'm done

Until they release new content

[upbeat junco]

the fuck

[frail bloom]

I have no clue why it was so hard

Maybe I was rushing too much

He kept hitting me on my stomp attack

[vast tiger]

Nothing could ever beat the doom franchise

[uneven mortar]

mario might

mario does

maybe zelda

[frank turtle]

150 game speed + small parry is hell bro istg

[wooden dock]

Old one boss fight respawn spawns you with one shot health for some reason

Its really stupid

[upbeat junco]

official hitless challenge (but just for this bossfight)

[frail bloom]

Man I am cooking

I might finish a project finally🙏

[frail bloom]

2 hrs huh

It literally says yesterday but nuh uh

I still live

No it's been an hr

[upbeat junco]

What's broguette cooking

[frail bloom]

I'm gonna post something, and it'll be gone in a minute

#videos message

It'll be gone soon

[upbeat junco]

Wow

[frail bloom]

Yup