the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

Damn I have no questions

What do you think of yesterday's stream?

#the-dark-ages message
Here's the notes

((Credit to Hato))

[grim cloud]

iive decided to play doom 2016 then TDA in the BYOC.

[frail bloom]

Cool

[slow zodiac]

I liked it. The mech changes seem fun and I'm glad that they adressed the issues with the parry.
The shield throw change seems interesting but it might make impaler even more OP lol.
The DLC art looks sick, can't wait to see more

[frail bloom]

I mean if they "nerf" the impaler that would balance it out

[slow zodiac]

yeah I guess we'll see

[frail bloom]

Still have no clue if they are and how they are gonna change it

[slow zodiac]

well they said previously that they'll make it so that if the shield bounces off an enemy it won't give you the charge anymore, so that's good

[frail bloom]

How do you get the charge I forgor

Shield throw is all I remember

[slow zodiac]

by parrying or throwing your shield

[frail bloom]

Ah ok

[slow zodiac]

but previously you could throw your shield into cyberdemon, for instance, it would bounce off him but woud still give you the charge

[frail bloom]

And headshots refill melee then

[frail bloom]

That has changed?

[slow zodiac]

yeah they're gonna change that

[frail bloom]

Oh they're gonna

Ye makes sense

I remember hearing that the superheavies used to be stunlocked by a shieldthrow

Which is crazy unbalanced glad they changed that before release

[slow zodiac]

also if the shield throw won't have cooldown, it will be easier to refill you shield charge, so maybe they should also raise the amount of fodder you need to kill to refill it

[frail bloom]

I think Hugo talked abt that with Mayo?

Can't remember it's been a while

It's most likely there are tweaks that weren't mentioned or emphasized so we forgot abt them

[slow zodiac]

yeah they were discussing that, but Hugo didn't say if any changes were planned yet

[frail bloom]

Quakecon is less than a week away tho so yipee

The atlan looks real fun

I'm still gonna run past the titans tho lmao

[slow zodiac]

it's a bit sad though that they're reworking the mech and dragon stuff, and some combat encounters when most people have already finished the game when it released and probably won't play it again

[frail bloom]

Ye first impressions are important

Who knows maybe the sales might reel some ppl in

Along with the Quakecon update

[delicate grotto]

That’s probably the game here. Release the big patch with all the rebalances and fixes, and put the game on sale to attract new players

[slate heart]

I hope the new changes dont change it too dramatically

[frail bloom]

Wdym

Like core gameplay loop?

[delicate grotto]

I do wish these games came out when singleplayer FPS games were the trending genre. Doom’s popular but it’s not nearly the level of popular I think it should be. Everything is either open world or competitive shooters now.

[frail bloom]

It's for the better usually

[slow zodiac]

some encounters are going to change pretty drastically it seems, but yeah they're not gonna turn it into another game lol

[frail bloom]

It's for longevity

Some arenas just don't last long as they should

You know it's a bit weird when exploration dominates time from combat

Like Kathural Marshes or whatever

7 min long level but 30 min with exploration

Like c'mon now

[grim cloud]

i wonder if they are going to do ML in order. I would like that personally. Think we will get atlan level master levels?

[slow zodiac]

Yeah, to me it felt like most of the arenas didn't last long enough. Only the last level felt like eternal in terms of amount of shit they throw at you at once

[frail bloom]

With only 3 enemy types?

[grim cloud]

well maybe some recolors, and more titans to fight ...

[frail bloom]

They ain't doing all of that

Recolors? That's some tag 2 stuff

[delicate grotto]

That’s true. Upon replaying the campaign I was surprised how short that level actually was when not focusing on the exploration.

[grim cloud]

recolors are easy, i could do one in a sunday afternoon

[frail bloom]

How will they function differently

[frail bloom]

Beautiful level but padded with exploration

[grim cloud]

basic stat increases, like speed, hp, damage

kind like enforcers or leaders or whater

[frail bloom]

I'd rather them focus on traditional levels

And that damn horde mode

[delicate grotto]

I can’t wait to see that snowy Hell level.

[grim cloud]

yes well I want a ML campaign if we are not getting a new game plus mode

it would also be better if we could pick our atlan weapons and use them more freely

[solid nacelle]

Isn't that basically the same thing

[frail bloom]

Gif was too big

[frail bloom]

Same. God of war vibes

[delicate grotto]

A NG+ mode would’ve been perfect for this game.

[grim cloud]

no, new game plus is more of a slower diff curve with multilple campaigns. ML they be throwing a lot of us, i guess TBD

though new game plus would probably need more monster variants. There is at least a couple unused monsters

such as the gold armored manc and arach

[frail bloom]

Ok what is a new game plus

[grim cloud]

have you played Dark Souls?

[frail bloom]

I thought it was an extra slot for your campaign

Not whatever you're describing

[grim cloud]

you just start over a harder camp with everything from your previous game, and continue to gain strength

DS has like 7 levels of new game

[frail bloom]

So a master level

[slow zodiac]

new game plus usually refers to the ability to replay the game with all the upgrades you got during your first playthrough

[frail bloom]

Dawg

[grim cloud]

its very different than master levels

[frail bloom]

In what way

[slow zodiac]

dark souls is one of a few games that also raises difficulty with each new game playthrough

[grim cloud]

unless they make a ML campaiign, then its kinda different

[frail bloom]

Well tbd if they make one

[grim cloud]

monsters hit harder, have more HP, but you still level up in Dark Souls

[slow zodiac]

I don't see how they could add more progression for ng+, but if you want enemies to be stronger and hit harder then you can simply use the difficulty sliders

[grim cloud]

sliders is one way to do it manuelly, i did that with doom eternal

well by sliders, i mean just difficulty change

[harsh egret]

thats why ng+ doesnt make sense and ML campaign makes more sense

[slow zodiac]

and you can already replay any level with all the upgrades if you select a chapter in the menu, so you can already get basically that

[grim cloud]

problem is, the early levels, you have a full kit but not full set of enemies. New game plus fixes that

[frail bloom]

Well that comes with knowing the fact that all levels have to be converted

Including Khalim

[slow zodiac]

that already sounds more like a master level to me

[grim cloud]

And to top it off, potentially harder demon variants

[grim cloud]

okay going in circles, yes that is kinda like ML, but assuming they do the earilier levels first

[frail bloom]

ID don't sound like the type of people to make new enemy variants for a ML

That's reserved for Dlc

And horde mode I guess

[slow zodiac]

well it seems they're working on the Khalim master level right now, since they teased it on social media

[frail bloom]

And Abyssal forest

It had short clips too

[harsh egret]

at this point i cba to speculate

id rather wait those 6 days

[frail bloom]

I can do boff

[grim cloud]

prop not but there are still a few unused monsters in the files

[frail bloom]

What.

[grim cloud]

well they are just recolors

[frail bloom]

What monsters

[grim cloud]

Gold armored Mancubus

[frail bloom]

Show me

Pls

[harsh egret]

they could do smth cooler with master levels this time around ye

[grim cloud]

ill have to grab it when i get home

[harsh egret]

but again i dont wanna set too crazy expectations so ill just wait

[frail bloom]

Alr alr

[harsh egret]

even tho i think id is cooking hard

[slow zodiac]

personally, I always prefered the DMC system where you unlock new difficulties with subsequent playthroughs and those difficulties have new enemies added to the levels but your character still starts from zero

[grim cloud]

there are some gold colored versions that not used, and i beleive the arachnotron someon else saw

[frail bloom]

I still wonder what they meant by creatively expressing yourself

Or whatever they said

[harsh egret]

just higher skill ceiling, more to kill, more to do, cooler fights

[frail bloom]

Aaauuauaua can't wait

I wanna fight mancubi in Khalim

And like a tyrant cuz why not

Wait if you have all your weapons you need a lot more

Hmmm

[harsh egret]

how about 2 komodos in same fight

yes...

[frail bloom]

I like that but then what

[harsh egret]

wdym then what

[frail bloom]

For the other master levels

What abt a bunch of revenants and chaingunners

That's another cool gimmick

[green estuary]

the cacodemon komodo combo is downright evil

[frail bloom]

Alr alr

That's another one

How abt a bunch of buffed whiplashes

And revenant assault

Wait

The enemy count is way higher

Smt like 50?

[grim cloud]

im going to ask on modding and see if someone there can help

[green estuary]

feels like it, but not sure of the numbers

[frail bloom]

Gimme 50 cyberdemons

Trust me I solo

[green estuary]

the only gold-armored enemies we face are the superheavy champions

aggadon, komodo, and vagary

[frail bloom]

Glad they did that

I always thought the golden doom hunter sounded cool

But it never showed up

[green estuary]

would have liked to see a cyberdemon champion though
although a leader cyberdemon is pretty close

[frail bloom]

The leader behaves differently

He shoots 3 skulls in succession instead of 1

[green estuary]

yeah

his hitscan ranged attack in all forms is just such a pain lol

along with the spikes he summons he might be the toughest leader demon out of all them

just because of how difficult he can make your life before you get to him

[grim cloud]

#screenshots message

[green estuary]

this was in the trailer, right

[grim cloud]

press tour,

[green estuary]

ah ok

[grim cloud]

i asked modding to find it, someone mentioned it was there

but i dont remember where it was said or confirmed by a modder

[raw drum]

guys is the slowmo update out rn

[frail bloom]

Riiiiiight

[grim cloud]

Think they will add that cosmic manc to the DLC?

a flying .. mancubus with tentacles

[frail bloom]

I mean then they spoiled an enemy

Idk abt that

Would LOVE it

But realistically idk

[grim cloud]

just because we have concept for it, doesn't mean it isn't gion got happen. Id almost argue the opposite

esp if they are that far into the concept stage. but who knows,

i really need to go back and check out the older art books, lots of clues in there for future monsters. We never got those hell knights ... im determined to make them myself

[raw drum]

i hope we see another melee weapon in the dlc

im not expecting the crucible, he already used it on the titan in taras nabad

[grim cloud]

i bet we see a new melee weapon and maybe a counterpart to the chainshot

but damn tda has a lot of weapons already.

[wintry nexus]

I just hit an imp stalker with a shield bash and holy shit it went flying to outer space

I did NOT know the shield was this powerful

[random sand]

we gotta get a sword as a melee weapon. we just gotta. also, wasn't there an unused weapon that was a variant of the chainshot found in the cosmic realm? it was found in the files i believe

[grim cloud]

yes there is, not sure what it was called

[wintry nexus]

Ye it was like purple

[grim cloud]

but it was very unfinished

[wintry nexus]

Very

[random sand]

prolly saving it for dlc by now

[wintry nexus]

But the sword as a Melee weapon? Idk, I feel like it would play too similar like the shield, slicing them, probably just me, however if they do implement it, it would be cool

[random sand]

I feel like it could be like a middle ground between the flail and dreadmace. Devestating hits but faster than the mace. Maybe 2 charges?

[wintry nexus]

That would be awesome, maybe it could slice horizontally

Devastating the demons within that slice

[random sand]

An upgrade could apply bleeding too maybe

[wintry nexus]

I do hope that too, however I feel like that would take readjusting to make it fit with tda’s gameplay

[random sand]

It could maybe work like how burning works except it could maybe drop health or something

[solid nacelle]

They bleed all over the floor and make it slippery

[random sand]

Peak

[solid nacelle]

Demons fall over as if they slipped on a banana peel

[wintry nexus]

The Health yea, in tda I could barely ever heal up fully, the sword could fill my health up

[random sand]

And you can use that for a speed boost. Cinema

[random sand]

It's genius

[wintry nexus]

Imagine if u slip too

[wintry nexus]

Perhaps it could focus more on health, other than ammo

Still having ammo, just not as much as the flail nor the mace or something

Dead chat, 0/10 👎

[frail bloom]

It happens quite frequently

[silent surge]

there were 12 minutes since the last post.

[frail bloom]

Sometimes it goes on for hours

[silent surge]

it is not “dead” over 12 minutes

[frail bloom]

Oh hi Allstin

[silent surge]

people come and go on the app

[silent surge]

hello hello

[frail bloom]

May I ask a question

[wintry nexus]

I’m just kidding bro.

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh we're kidding too

I kid first

[wintry nexus]

Nuh uh, I’m kidding too

[frail bloom]

No no nopety nope I kidded way before

[wintry nexus]

Nah nah I kidded before all kidding

I was the first to be Kidding

[silent surge]

i see it be serious too much and it’s like, they gotta chill

yea @frail bloom what’s up

[frail bloom]

But you weren't there during the great kidding of 2:40!

[wintry nexus]

Dammit, you got me

[prisma kernel]

“In the first kidding, in the first kidding, when the kiddens first kidded”

[wintry nexus]

Lmao

[frail bloom]

So do you remember what level you heard the into sandy's city reference you thought you were hearing during the preview? It's been a couple months since the game launched so maybe you know what level

[silent surge]

it ended up being the ambient-ish them in barracks/aratum. it seems like it’s probably not it, a stretch

[frail bloom]

I see

I want to hear that doom 2 track FM weren't able to use

[solar cairn]

The patch is coming..

[frail bloom]

That's what she said

[solar cairn]

I set up a timer for the qс

[rocky badger]

Is there a date and time for an announcement? Quakecon starts this weekend?

[solar cairn]

Next Thursday

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-old-man-angry-crazy-gif-14817968

[solar cairn]

It’s me

[dense thunder]

Let's be honest, Dark Ages is pretty much just DLC for Eternal; it's Battlefield Hardline all over again.

[vital rapids]

Fodder level ragebait effort tbh

[next thistle]

I wonder if Jessica from HR still works at id software?

[fleet spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-thunder-ltg-thunder-gif-17377694899343058650

[green estuary]

bait or extraordinarily stupid
call it

[vocal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[solar cairn]

After the patch, the opinion will change

[warm ibex]

you guys are getting better...

a month ago that rage bait would've sparked a full on argument. I'm proud of you guys

character growth

[mental grotto]

Bait used to be believable. Please try harder next time

[indigo belfry]

When is the new update coming out that Hugo kept referencing in yesterday’s stream?

[solar cairn]

August 7 probably, but the broadcast time with the patch announcement is unknown

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-mcgill-chicanery-breakdown-gif-25422432

[hearty edge]

chat real talk

bfc or bfg

[solar cairn]

I find the bfc design boring, but it fits the general style of the game

[calm tangle]

Agreed tbh, can't hate on the bfg in any form when it comes to gameplay but a magic crossbow seemed a tad bit lame to me, it could've been in the same vein as maybe the ballgun like some weird cosmic power gun

[hearty edge]

i like the bfc but the bfg is just cooler

you wouldnt see a crossbow shooting a hole through the surface of mars

[slender night]

I think the crossbow is a nod to Heretic which is pretty neat

[minor plinth]

yay I beat it on higher nightmare sliders now

[slender shuttle]

The DLC is not coming out this year right?

[solar cairn]

Not that it’s impossible, but it’s unlikely if they didn’t start work in advance before the game was released

[slender shuttle]

Say again

Oh there are chances it's coming out this year?

Hmm

[maiden onyx]

I will always prefer the bfg lore and looks wise, but I actually like the bfc gameplay more. It feels far more powerful in tda while not trivialising an encounter. Emptying bfg rounds in eternal into spirited demons and barely denting them made me very sad haha

[mossy juniper]

Has the game gotten substantially harder when messing with sliders?

I'm getting my ass kicked in late game arenas that used to be easy on cranked up sliders

[maiden onyx]

Is it to do with reaction speed, how fast you’re dying or how long it takes to clear an encounter?

[mossy juniper]

I mean harder since day one

[maiden onyx]

They’ve added stuff since yeah

[mossy juniper]

since they've been changing the stats for the game outside of updates

I find fodder to be an issue, I can easily manage larger enemies but I keep getting randomly killed by fodder unpredictably

especially stone imps on high game speeds

or spectre stalkers since they're really hard to see mid battle

[solar cairn]

We’ll find out on Thursday, but I personally don’t hope

[slender shuttle]

Yes indeed. 🫡 Thursday quakcon

[maiden onyx]

all I can really recommend is finding the right tool for you to deal with them. I almost exclusively use my shield for fodder, whenever my shield bash is down I usually just start going ham with the mace and SSG.

But I know someone else who does some crazy shock shenanigans that trivialises fodder and that works for them

[merry sapphire]

Finally someone else said this, ive been Sayin this for months

i think we can ALL agree when i say that dark ages is too similar to doom eternal

[split gate]

This isn’t ragebait for me, I’m genuinely confused at wtf this means

[hearty edge]

cha t which is the best shield rune

[thin sentinel]

The blue swords one easily

[hearty edge]

agreed

it kills

[thin sentinel]

Lads has anyone here done the game on the absolute max difficulty settings

[maiden onyx]

I like fissure coz I get to smack them in the face on falter

[unreal terrace]

I think raitro has

[thin sentinel]

Well if ur samching them with anything besides the hellbat thingy than it’s not worth ur time

[thin sentinel]

Srry I’m like 5mins of being here idk who that is

[unreal terrace]

A youtuber

[thin sentinel]

I did it on console tho it took 120hrs

[thin sentinel]

Shit yea ik him nvm

[unreal terrace]

DAYUM

[maiden onyx]

unhinged levels of determination

[thin sentinel]

Yea some single fights took me 10+hrs

Like when I beat it I was easily the most happy I’ve ever been in my life

[unreal terrace]

hell yeah 🔥🔥

[thin sentinel]

The first time u fight azarak bc i had him doing 500% damage with 300% attack speed while i did 50% damage was actually the most infuriating thing oat

[maiden onyx]

I kind of want to see what the most insufferable gameplay is now

[thin sentinel]

Like I was losing my shit at like 4am

[vague sinew]

This is like pure masochism

[hearty edge]

i'm barely staying alive at 200% on ultra violence i dont even wanna imagine 500% on nightmare

[vague sinew]

How

[thin sentinel]

Yea I have like 11k hrs on gaming overall and have never needing to genuinely take a brake from gaming besides when I beat this challenge run

[maiden onyx]

Damn

[unreal terrace]

absolutely insane dedication

[thin sentinel]

I’m glad u lot actually believe me bc o a lot of ppl js said it was to hard and that i was lying

[vague sinew]

I’m starting to prefer the accelerator to the cycler. Accelerator is a beast!

[hearty edge]

bro won the doom slayer pfp

[thin sentinel]

Only if u have the charged burr thing on imo

[hearty edge]

yea i dont think i have used the cycler outside of like 4 areas lmao

[thin sentinel]

Js to put into context I did nightmare doom 2016 and 30 hours doom eternal plus 2DLC in 40 hours but the just 22 level levels of doom the dark ages took 120 hours

[maiden onyx]

Better than me bro, I didn’t use a single bit of plasma in my entire 24 hours of gameplay until the postgame where i did the mastery. 😭

[thin sentinel]

That’s how hard the absolute max difficulty is on console

[vague sinew]

I love the cycler’s shock effect but it takes a long time to apply to demons…i’m going straight for the damage with the accelerator’s beam!

[unreal terrace]

and i thought ultra-nightmare was an accomplishment 😭

[solar cairn]

Shock rune if you play with 150% game speed and nightmare+

[thin sentinel]

Yea I’m 100% sure that no one on the planet is yet to do the Max difficulty ultra nightmare for doom the dark ages

[vague sinew]

It also gets subdued by the thunder shield rune

[maiden onyx]

Not for another 6 months at least

[thin sentinel]

The doom tda platinum on ps was so easy tho

[unreal terrace]

it'd take like 30 years lmao

[vague sinew]

Maybe someone is working on a TAS run

[maiden onyx]

there’s always something that can be exploited, they just have to find it

[thin sentinel]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure when the world record speed runners if the previous doom stood it on PC it still took them like 90 hours

[thick axle]

how long it take u

[thin sentinel]

After beating the game, the cleanup to get the platinum only they took like seven extra hours

[thick axle]

o so there isnt any multiplayer

[thin sentinel]

Not for doom tda yet

[thick axle]

cuz i dont have the game

[thin sentinel]

But the other ones have it

[thin sentinel]

Ha well still glad to have u here

[thick axle]

Cuz i have suffered doom eternal

and am still suffering to get the plat

[thin sentinel]

Bro imo doom eternal is by far the easiest to play on nightmare

[thick axle]

true dat

[thin sentinel]

Oh yeah, the plat for that game is a lot harder but still not that bad in my opinion

[thick axle]

ye

[thin sentinel]

But the plot for doom the dark ages is genuinely easy as hell

[thick axle]

kinda buggybut worth it

[thin sentinel]

Plat*

[thick axle]

so like astros playroom easy

[thin sentinel]

No

Way harder than that but still like a solid 5/10 overall

[thick axle]

ok

[hearty edge]

y know something i find funny is how in doom 2016 you just freaking died when you fell off from the map

[thick axle]

so its kinda doom etenal difficulty without multiplayer trophies

[hearty edge]

then in doom eternal you take like 20 damage

[thick axle]

Lol

[hearty edge]

and now just nothing and go on as normal

[thin sentinel]

Yea and in tda u don’t even take any damage

[thick axle]

I redownloaded doom 2016 and thought that i had a meat hook on the SSG

[waxen maple]

Sometimes you get insta killed by the enemy you respawn next to before the color even comes back to your screen. That one's fun.

[thick axle]

Then i accidently fell of the map and i was l

like no prob ill just take some dmg

[thin sentinel]

Yeah, I have a clip from the dark ages saved on my PS5 of me going from 350 health to 0 instantly from a mankibis’s fire attack

[waxen maple]

Feels good lol

[thin sentinel]

Like literally in abt 30 milliseconds

[thick axle]

lol

[hearty edge]

good thing its never happened to me

[thick axle]

ima watch a guy kill 30 marauders so seeya

[waxen maple]

Wat?

That sounds infuriating.

[frail bloom]

It's gonna get a lot harder

[hearty edge]

sometimes i forget i have a medium well parry window and eat the whole attack by trying to time it perfectly

[frail bloom]

Next week

With acts 2 and 3 being rebalanced

[hearty edge]

i also saw the guy

[frail bloom]

Oooh my god

You were talking abt Astro bot

Jesus I'm jaded

[green estuary]

This is good
I just finished the campaign and there were some tough encounters but by and large I didn’t die as much as I probably should have given how hard the beginning of the game was

[waxen maple]

Yeah towards the end of the game you just have so much more health/armor and you have so many upgrades if not all of them for the stuff you like using at that point.

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh I must yap and seethe until it is done

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh

Chekmait

[green estuary]

I prefer TDA’s takes on a lot of weapons but the bfc is not one of them
BFG all day

[warm ibex]

gawesome

[frail bloom]

Indeed

[harsh egret]

Wouldnt fit the theme but the black hole bfg from the concept wouldve been soo sick

[green estuary]

It could have fit the theme
Just make it a cosmic type weapon

[harsh egret]

Its too spacey or smth idk

And i feel like they might go there at one point

[green estuary]

Well the idea could fit I mean

A cosmic superweapon that shoots out a frickin black hole would be the sickest thing ever

[harsh egret]

Ah i see what u meant nvm

[solar cairn]

Reskin bfc through mods?

[hearty edge]

lets go golden ssg

[lament lotus]

Welp. It had to happen at least once. I lost an UN run in Kalihm because I was autopilotting too hard.

[vapid karma]

I am digging the finishing move song

[split gate]

Wow any favourites 👀

[vapid karma]

Unchained predator

Hard to tell they are all my favorites

[split gate]

Nicee

[split gate]

Yeah that’s how I feel about it too, the quality is quite consistent, each track just sounds so freaking good

Another opportunity for me to glaze Blood Red for the 50th time in this chat

[north spire]

for me, the soundtrack becomes way more consistent in the last third of the game

the first two thirds had an equal mix of tracks i loved and tracks that i didn't

but once you got to ||the cosmic realm||, almost every track that plays during the next few levels are genuinely on par with the best TAG 1 and 2 tracks imo

[sage nimbus]

i am very much a fan of infernal chasm

[hearty edge]

holy damn the music in the ||cosmic realm|| is so good

i miss my boy mick but damn

[unkempt dragon]

agreed

[thick axle]

We will never forget him especially since his song names were also badass

"The only thing they fear is you"

[edgy notch]

Fr

Absolute masterpiece

[thick axle]

And lets not forget the intro theme to doom eternal

[hearty edge]

me personally i like bfg division the most

[edgy notch]

Couldnt agree more

[thick axle]

I still get chills listening to that bro

[hearty edge]

and super gore nest

[thick axle]

true dat

[hearty edge]

yea the throwback to doom II

[thick axle]

ikr

also im still learning the doom eternal ballista tech

cuz once i saw that guy kill 30 MARAUDERS

i was like dam

i wanna do dat

[edgy notch]

Fr

[thick axle]

I feel like Mick knew this would go insanely hard and said "Im gonna do what's called a pro gamer move"

[alpine notch]

I just finished the first level of TDA

It took a while to get used to stuff like the shield blocking projectiles, but there's things that helped like the projectile parrying and the shield boost being good at mowing down fodder

So far, it's a really fucking rad experience

[mossy juniper]

The super heavy combat music does not play nearly enough in dark ages

It only kicks in when the battle is basically over

[delicate grotto]

This Doom game definitely takes longer to get used to but it’s worth it

[delicate grotto]

Yeah a lot of people share the same complaint. There’s a ton of rebalancing coming in the near future that’ll spice up encounters.

So those fights will last longer letting the music shine.

[mossy juniper]

You almost never hear the heavy part of Battle on the Blackened Tide

[alpine notch]

I think it's because Doomguy is slower

But you do have a Shield dash

[mossy juniper]

I also think the softer bass variants of the riffs play too often

[alpine notch]

Hopefully Runes are back so I can get Air Control first thing

[delicate grotto]

I’d say more methodical than slower but I understand what you mean. You can always boost the speed if it’s a little too slow for you. Trust me though, those later encounters can get pretty intense with the amount of projectile tracking you’ll need to do.

[alpine notch]

Yesh sprinting is there

[delicate grotto]

Nah I meant sliders but you can turn on auto sprint too

[alpine notch]

Yeah that sounds like a good call

Doom is better if you only dash

[dark thunder]

so we're just gonna get prequel games for a long long time arent we

[delicate grotto]

Spoiler ||they aren’t, but you get different upgrades that synergies with the game’s combat||

[alpine notch]

Well that's a shame, but I am looking forward to those since the trailer had stuff like throwing your shield

[delicate grotto]

Oh yeah, that will come soon. Along with a lot of cool other combat tools

[alpine notch]

I got past the first level like I said, so hopefully just like Eternal, level two is gonna make you ready

[delicate grotto]

Possibly.
TDA is likely the start of a Slayer Testament saga.

[dark thunder]

it's gonna be ages before we get a sequel to eternal then

I really just wanna know what happens in the story next after the death of davoth

[hearty edge]

you know i only have 4gb vram cuz i have a laptop so i had to do the first level at like 20 fps

then for the latter levels i found a mod that makes it compatible with 4gb vram and it runs smooth

[hearty edge]

yea you get that on the beginning of the next level

its really handy

[hearty edge]

and also there is no double jump

[thick axle]

imagine a mod for eternal that you have ur guns, TDA guns, shield, all equipment and all runes

WAIT WAT

[delicate grotto]

Yeah who knows what’s next for the Doom franchise
Eternal’s DLC wrapped up the initial saga well enough imo. Unless they reintroduce the Cosmic Realm or something similar to revitalize Hell, I don’t see where they could take the story.

[dark thunder]

I'm playing on a 2060 so i kinda feel you. The cosmic realm is the best running level I can get 60 constantly on low graphics with ultra performance dlss

[thick axle]

NO DOUBLE JUMP

[dark thunder]

that's prob what the next few games r gonna be for

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I’d expect a trilogy of new games starting with TDA. We shall see though.

[hearty edge]

well you can sprint and i actually feel the base speed is the fastest of the 3 but it may feel slower cuz of the bigger arena and level design

[thick axle]

do u know how many clutches me and the double jump have gone through

[hearty edge]

you can jump higher by sprint jumping

[thick axle]

and lets ot forget flinging with the meathook

[dark thunder]

How do they even have ideas for a whole univers of games that all have different combat loops? you'd think at some point they'd run out of idea for combat loops

[thick axle]

Well i guess thats ok

[alpine notch]

Shield dash is kind of meathooking, just without armor to grab from a corpse

[hearty edge]

and it does add continuity cuz you get the double jump boots on the argent tower so having double jump before that would ruin it

[thick axle]

At this point i wont be surprised if they gave him a jetpack that could shoot

bfg ammo

[thick axle]

so how is the health system

[hearty edge]

you kill demons and they give you healt

[thick axle]

So u get double jump eventually

[thick axle]

just health no armour

[delicate grotto]

id’s a team full of creative and passionate people
It’s impressive how consistently good their games have been. Especially with Doom.

[hearty edge]

no no i was saying the argent tower level in doom 2016

[thick axle]

O

[hearty edge]

no you can also get armor by breaking shields and metal and stuff

[thick axle]

But still

the shield is BADASS

[hearty edge]

and there's a melee weapon that can light up demons on fire for extra armor

[thick axle]

oo

[hearty edge]

and theres also these stronger demons that you rip their heart out to upgrade your health and armor cap

[thick axle]

DAYM

[alpine notch]

Very very important that it's badass considering we're coming off of Eternal's weapons' high standards and gotta crank em up

[thick axle]

so instead of argent cells or sentinel crystals, Its HEARTS

[thick axle]

They better make the next game have a jetpack and a ground slam

[hearty edge]

yes exactly

[thick axle]

IMAGINE A GROUND SLAM WITH THE SHIELD

[alpine notch]

Castledoomia

[hearty edge]

and i feel its more rewarding bc instead of just finding secrets you have to clear arenas to get the upgrades

[thick axle]

ye

and im guessing theres no cheats

[hearty edge]

well you can already ground slam to kill fodder

[alpine notch]

(although seeing Doomguy fight Dracula and his legions of monsters would genuinely be amazing)

[hearty edge]

just fall from a high distance

[thick axle]

WAiIT WHAT

IM DROOLING RN

NO CAP

[alpine notch]

Damn, the more you know

[thick axle]

real

Wat are u gonna tell me next, there is a combo bar

[green estuary]

For the mech sections yeah
But it’s pretty rudimentary
Although a few of the slayer’s guns literally gain damage/rate of fire by killing demons

[hearty edge]

Not really a combo bar but you can do combos

Oh I didn't see the message above

Yes for the mech sections there is

[thick axle]

just give me a sec ima just start screaming into my pillow

[hearty edge]

And then the melee weapons passively charge up or you can speed it up by parrying

And then doin 3 or 4 hit combos

[thick axle]

AAAAAH

[alpine notch]

I got the deluxe edition and while I didn't slap a divinity skin on Doomguy or the dragon, I couldn't say no to the Atlan, mechs are badass and they need cool colors

[green estuary]

What lies below is such an amazing track goddamn

[merry jackal]

It took me 2 hrs to 100 percent siege 1

[slow wharf]

They ||killed my dragon||

My baby

[random sand]

That shit fueled my rage to kill Ahzrak so much he didn't last 10 seconds even. My baby boi😭

[slow wharf]

Man I used all my life sigils on him

Got me using determination

[random sand]

I don't think i used any. Never gave him the oppertunity😭

[slow wharf]

I’m shit but yknow I can’t die there

Gotta make sure he goes down

Still easier than the icon atleast

[random sand]

Icon isn't that hard if you just know what you're doing

[slow wharf]

Well last time I fought him I was a wee lad

[random sand]

Glad in the end he suffered a brutal grusome death :)

[slow wharf]

I wish I got to bludgeon him tho

See if my dragon didn’t get shanked

Woulda been different

[random sand]

Now you a man. Beat that 200 meter tall deer titan!

[slow wharf]

But then I started moving like v1

Blood may not be fuel for health but

It is for the soul

[slow wharf]

Ain’t he a goat

Maybe I should lobotomize him again…

[random sand]

|| explains why when doom slayer used that other dragon in the ancient gods, he was dismissive to it ||

[random sand]

One or the other

[slow wharf]

Makes sense

Kinda sad I beat doom the dark ages

Whatever, gold weapon grind!

[random sand]

You got this. It ain't that hard. Hardest one is probably one of the skullcrushers but i found an exploit to it lmao

[slow wharf]

Oh no I know it ain’t

I’ll figure it out

Getting my new pc and finally playing doom the dark ages was like the first time drinking a monster

[random sand]

I also figured out. If you do the trick there you alt f4 in ultra nightmare to avoid a death in the last mech level, it respawns you on the ground without the mech😭

[raven sonnet]

australian prices sorry mate mine was 25% off too

[random sand]

Nice. I had to get a few upgrades to play it but even then it doesn't run ideal. Probably my graphics card that needa go

[slow wharf]

My 1060 was begging for freedom

[random sand]

1060!? Jesus christ. Yeah nah that shit would've been sent straight to hell if it tried playing TDA. I rn have a 2060😭

[slow wharf]

Well no it wouldn’t

It just wouldn’t start at all

[random sand]

The guards wouldn't even let bro in

[slow wharf]

Ray tracing exclusive games are real!!

1060 to 9060xt absolute heaven

[random sand]

Funny thing is the minimum requirement is exactly what i had. Now all i need upgraded is my graphics card. I'm thinking getting a 4060 will do

[slow wharf]

Orrrrr 9060xt for the same price

[random sand]

If it's the same price, does it really matter?

[slow wharf]

Ones better performing but

Ones nvidia

[random sand]

Nvidia is what i'm used to

[slow wharf]

Nvidia is good for uhh

It’s good for some things

[random sand]

It works for me. Hasn't let me down yet

[slow wharf]

Yeah

Both good

Nvidia is better if you’re ok with some frame gen

Now the real benchmark is

How much fps on Minecraft

[undone girder]

He deserved what ||Kreed|| had and then way more ngl

He was so badass but was also simultaneously more hateable than even Khan Maykr ever was

Ahzrak more like Asshole

[slow wharf]

Geniunely wanted to rip his heart out

https://tenor.com/view/heart-asmr-guy-pulls-out-heart-pull-out-heart-pulling-out-heart-aggressive-asmr-gif-27621684

Stupid ass gif

[undone girder]

||Just smashing his head off was too mild I needed to just. DISEMBOWEL WHILE HE WAS CONSCIOUS||

[slow wharf]

I wanna watch him do seppuku infront of me

[undone girder]

He should walk into a railroad and wait n see what happens :3

🚆

[slow wharf]

John doom can’t have SHIT

[undone girder]

No squad

No bunny

No family

No ||dragon||

NO KINGDOM 😭

[slow wharf]

He got a nice ass crib in eternal tho

[undone girder]

Real :D

What I wouldnt give to just. Chill outside the planet lol

[slow wharf]

Mf got a gaming pc

Guitars

[undone girder]

Comics and magazines ❤️

[slow wharf]

Yes

[hearty edge]

4 example you can stay close to the cyberdemon parry him and counter attack with ur punches

[slow wharf]

Wait hol up

[undone girder]

He can even get pizza from up there lol

[slow wharf]

In doom 3 the cyber demon was the final boss, in doom 2016 it was a mid game boss, in doom eternal it was a mini boss, in doom the dark ages it just appeared

So in the next doom game the cyberdemon is actually a fodder demon

[undone girder]

😭 They'd never........The big boi is too beloved

inb4 he's the main villain of the next story like that Wolfenstein episode

[slow wharf]

I love cyberdemons

[undone girder]

Same :D

OG Cybers are fucking scary tho

ONE mistake and you're splattered

[slow wharf]

They can die

[undone girder]

Just gotta shoot em till it happens

[merry jackal]

Sad

[split gate]

I just heard TDA will only have one DLC, they have to absolutely go all out for it

[marble seal]

I wonder if they could explore more of Plutonia...

Hm....

[fleet spruce]

Wonder if new DLC hell concept art hints that different looking parts of hell similar to 64 are going to be present

[neon spoke]

is the game just crashing at launch for anyone else now?

[harsh egret]

i just love the diversity in visuals for each level

and going even further with the dlc clearly

[fleet spruce]

same , I'm sure the DLC gonna be like half of the base game's levels in the quantity

[barren warren]

they better add some more meat levels that look like boneyard from 2016

[unkempt thicket]

Obscure take: I feel like rather than renaming ITYTD to “Aspiring Slayer”, they probably could have just gone with “I Just Want To Kill!”, which was the early pre-release name for ITYTD seen on the Doom press release beta.

That or bring back the “Hey Not Too Rough” name.

[harsh egret]

hey not too rough sounds more right

but eh, i dont really mind the change

[barren warren]

they need to bring back the spirit and make it so that the buff makes demons unparryable and unfalterable

[fleet spruce]

Calm down, Satan

[barren warren]

epic fun zone spider mastermind idea: hitscan minigun that has no delay between bursts, slam attack that electrifies the floor for a few seconds when getting too close, grants a unique damage and aggressiveness buff to all nearby demons, and an invincibility shield that can only be broken for a few seconds by parrying 3 at random hitscan laser attacks consecutively

add in a wider version of the cacodemon fence projectile that fires at random for extra fun zone

[solar cairn]

I need a dropper with a patch

[solar cairn]

On the contrary, they are trying to make different biomes

[merry jackal]

No way bruh

[lunar spire]

Had to be ragebait lol

Don't fall for it brother

[barren warren]

i want hugo martin to kick me in the fun zone 24/7 365

[vernal star]

Gyro Aim?

[unkempt thicket]

Don’t give id ideas

[vale coral]

It's a good idea tho

[barren warren]

oh and bring back the archvile but instead of those lame fire waves have them spawn burning purple goop underneath you alongside a tentacle for good measure

[solid nacelle]

Making them unparryable directly contradicts the gameplay loop

Half the game is parrying bruh

[barren warren]

you’re right, they should make it so parrying a spirit-buffed attack spawns another spirit

[solid nacelle]

Much better

[solar cairn]

You can make the parry only half work

[barren warren]

good idea, parrying a spirit buff should block it but reduce your maximum health and armor by 50% until you install the game on a new device

[merry jackal]

Just fix the shield cooldown when we r trying to switch gun that's all bruh

Holy

The main menu soundtrack sounds fire

What is the song in the main menu

[barren warren]

When The Shadows First Lengthened

[solar cairn]

No I mean reduce parry effect

[barren warren]

i know, i’m just joking around

[pine sky]

You're evil 😭

[barren warren]

for real though, i could go without them introducing spirit mechanics again

[merry jackal]

Ty mate

[frail bloom]

In what timeline would the dlc be one level?

Like just going off generally, some ppl hear one dld and freak out(not you)

What if it's one big dlc? With 6 or 7 levels?

[merry jackal]

Guys why am I getting skins for sum challenges I don't understand

[oblique pasture]

I finally got the game! I love it so much! It’s gonna take me a while to get used to cause it plays different that Eternal

[green estuary]

Some skins you find in the level exploration, others you get from mission challenges

And the gold weapon skins are obtained by competing weapon masteries

[merry jackal]

How do I see the mission challenges

[merry jackal]

Oh yea idh that

[green estuary]

Just go to the dossier and click on the checkmark icon at the top

[frail bloom]

Dossier is such a fancy word

So cool

[merry jackal]

Bruh i forgot to check now I gotta grind 2 chapters again

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/swinging-hanging-hanging-in-there-bored-waiting-gif-18029735056767784446

Hey I just realized that the dlc concept art has buildings behind the flesh gate

Are we gonna go in some city?

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-the-wall-gif-25370159

[solar cairn]

Hugotown

[frail bloom]

Riight

[solar cairn]

Every day we are getting closer..

[indigo belfry]

How do I get rid of those markers that tell me where I died in previous ultra nightmare runs

[barren ember]

you can't lmao

[frail bloom]

Just don't die lmao

[barren ember]

yeah that's actually a very good advice

just, try not to die, like actually fucking try not to die

[frail bloom]

Exactly

[indigo belfry]

Jeez thanks man but sometimes stuff happens and I don’t want to see that icon through walls all game

Oh well it’s fine

I feel like I remember that feature being better in 2016

Like they were cool looking hologram things and didn’t show through walls

[frail bloom]

No no we're kidding

It can be seen through walls? That's annoying ye

[flat vale]

i mean yeah you can, i once died in my ultra-nightmare run to a final boss and the point of where i've died was bugged and was just in the ground

it was kinda annoying but nothing that makes the game unplayable

[flat vale]

hello Marshall

[barren ember]

eyyyy hii

[dusk robin]

that feeling when you collect all secrets and gold only to find the mission was 99% completed snaps neck

[mighty hedge]

how did you get the shield thing profile picture?

[dusk robin]

it was promoted on Discord before the game launched, idk if you can still get it.

[mighty hedge]

does it cost money?

[dusk robin]

no its free

[spark elm]

I like how the track hellspawn rift does have some doom 1993 vibes with it.

[marble seal]

I wouldn't mind a full city again

[harsh egret]

Lol i thought it expired a while ago for everyone, just checked rn and i still had it but just wasnt equipped

[reef steeple]

Any news on the DLC?

[harsh egret]

No

[frail bloom]

Yes we've had a hint on who the wretch is and we might witness Valen's betrayal according to leaks posted on the doom livestreams by Hugo and company, do you wanna see the info?

[reef steeple]

Sure, but was mainly asking about a release date. Thx!

[frail bloom]

Dawg I was kidding😭 🙏

[reef steeple]

Ha!

[frail bloom]

We've only had combat details and one picture

Which is in screenshots

[harsh egret]

For a sec i was falling for that

But as i read on i was like ok lol

[frail bloom]

Ye I sounded real professional and stuff

Shame on you for being tricked tho

Tsk tsk

[tame swift]

I got my gpu

It’s really big😩

Now I have the silly yellow card that everyone is going insane for

[solar cairn]

Patch coming..

[split saddle]

doom

doom coming

[solar cairn]

I really hope for at least 1 master level

[sterile birch]

Someone get me doom

[thick axle]

bro just get ps plus deluxe if u have a playstation and boom

doom1, doom2, i think doom 64 correct me if im wrong, doom 3, doom 2016 and doom eternal all for deluxe membership

[fast pagoda]

I know a guy

[sterile birch]

fr?

[fast pagoda]

@chilly pine

[sterile birch]

@chilly pine can u buy me doom?

[chilly pine]

Brotha I’m broke I dont got it

[sterile birch]

..

[thick axle]

do u have ps

[chilly pine]

I gameshared it

[fast pagoda]

Sorry bro thought he had motion 💔

[sterile birch]

i fr wanna play itt

[chilly pine]

And it’s peak

[sterile birch]

no shit bro

[chilly pine]

It’s tie with doom eternal being my favorite

[fast pagoda]

Ts is lowkey diabolical

[chilly pine]

Why are you even here

Didn’t expect you to be here

[fast pagoda]

Its like locking someone up for life and dangling the keys in front the jail cell

[fast pagoda]

I know a guy

[chilly pine]

That’s been happening to me for a month or 2

[sterile birch]

rlly no shit

[chilly pine]

No joke people in YRF started sending me pictures about doom

[fast pagoda]

Type of shit i would do tbf

The doom MP incident

[chilly pine]

Ofc you would

[chilly pine]

Lmao

[fast pagoda]

Gotta play smn with you sometime man

[chilly pine]

I’m down with any game

Kinda

[chilly pine]

Even Roblox horror games

[fast pagoda]

The forest featuring mike yrf 🥀

[chilly pine]

Alr maybe not

Does that game even have mp

[fast pagoda]

Always knew mike is your op

[fast pagoda]

Yeah i played it w mike

[chilly pine]

Never played it too

[chilly pine]

Nah he ain’t

[chilly pine]

How was it lol

[fast pagoda]

It was something fs

[chilly pine]

Wdym by that

[fast pagoda]

Mfs mic was broken so we were dm'ing mid game

[chilly pine]

Lmao

[hoary mist]

I cant actually get past hebeth can I have help

Like it says destroy enemy shields with the shield saw, but everytime i throw it the tracker doesnt go up

I have restarted the level, the game, like I dont know what to do and I am very tempted to refund the game

[solid nacelle]

Are you actually destroying enemy shields or are you throwing the saw at nothing

[chilly pine]

You need to damage the shields first

I think that’s the mistake

[solid nacelle]

The first set of enemy shields you encounter should already be superheated that can't be it

[thorny yarrow]

Did you guys get the skin from the Sprecher root beer partnership? Cause holy shit it looks awesome.

The Onyx skin.

[hoary mist]

actually trying to get rid of the shield, I throw the shield at them and it destryos thier shield but the tracker doesnt go up

[solar cairn]

We expect more skins in the future..

[hoary mist]

Done that and it still doesnt count

[chilly pine]

Are you sure you even hitting it

[green estuary]

just send a video in the videos channel

[chilly pine]

Or here

[green estuary]

you can't send one in this channel

[hoary mist]

Okay i will

[hoary mist]

yeah fully hitting

[chilly pine]

Make sure you tag us

[chilly pine]

Oh mb

[hoary mist]

I will dw

Just loading up the game

@chilly pine @green estuary you have been tagged and the video is uploading

Might take a while, I'll retag you when it has been uploaded

[chilly pine]

Is it taking forever?

[chilly pine]

Oh Alr

[green estuary]

damn the metal shields should be shattering but instead they're just breaking
that's really weird

are you on a demon damage setting other than 100% by any chance?
@hoary mist

[vital hearth]

i figured out the problem was just the surface the computer was on lol that and performancesettings(in the form of a toggle-able button)

[solar cairn]

By the way, I didn’t know that the shield had a delay before the throw

[hoary mist]

yeah its 200%

[vital hearth]

it def does

[green estuary]

so you take 200% damage, or the demons take 200% damage?

[hoary mist]

i take 200%

[vital hearth]

i put my game on ultra-violence but modified to make the parry window shorter cause it felt too easy to parry

[green estuary]

well that shouldn't affect anything

[hoary mist]

mine is the same

[hoary mist]

what should I do than cause I really want to play doom but I cannot play it if this is happening

[green estuary]

honestly I couldn't tell you

[frail bloom]

How's the fps and music quality now?

[solid nacelle]

Try disabling tutorials and see if you can bypass it that way

[green estuary]

yeahh maybe

[vital hearth]

music is crystal clear now

[hoary mist]

did you see the video too?

[vital hearth]

no issue

[solid nacelle]

I did

[hoary mist]

I will have a try and pray that works

[vital hearth]

fps stays above 30 last i checked was 30-60 range but it could be higher or lower

its no longer slide show though so good enough for me

[green estuary]

at 1440p? not bad with a 3080

[frail bloom]

Y'know ppl get much higher with a 2060

[solar cairn]

They have to fix it, right?

[frail bloom]

But I think in 1080 p

[vital hearth]

yeah its a laptop so

[green estuary]

not on 1440p they don't
also not on 1080p either unless they're running FG

[frail bloom]

Ooohhhhhhh

[vital hearth]

refresh rate is 144hz

[frail bloom]

Ok that makes sense

[vital hearth]

max res is 1920x1080(cause laptop)

[green estuary]

my laptop 4060 gets 50-60 fps on 1080p native and 60-70 on dlss quality

[hoary mist]

IT WORKED THANK YOU SO MUCH

THANK YOU

[green estuary]

now let's just hope shields don't behave that way for the rest of the game

[solid nacelle]

#swag

[green estuary]

because if broken shields don't drop armor then that's kinda tough

one of the best ways to pick up armor mid-combat

[hoary mist]

it does cause when i was shooting them them dropped armour

but i did just break more and i didnt get any armour but that b=might be cause i didnt pick it up

[hoary mist]

that I am aware of they arent deopping armour

[green estuary]

[solar cairn]

It would be nice if the performance in the patch was slightly improved

At least plus 10 fps

[green estuary]

well that depends on what fps you're on currently

[solar cairn]

80-100

[green estuary]

tough ask

[solar cairn]

Unfortunately, I don’t have a 50th generation and I don’t have a 3/4x framegen

[green estuary]

is the 80-100 fps with frame gen?

[solar cairn]

DLSS Quality

[green estuary]

so no frame gen

just slight upscaling

[solar cairn]

++

But I’d like 120+ fps

[green estuary]

well then just turn on frame gen

[frail bloom]

Idk maybe they'll remove denuvo

[solar cairn]

She doesn’t seem to eat fps

[frail bloom]

She???

[green estuary]

let's hope

[frail bloom]

Yar har matey

[solar cairn]

It’s a devil’s toy

[green estuary]

eternal's first update removed it

[frail bloom]

I'm lost

[solar cairn]

There was already the first update

[frail bloom]

So does tda denuvo impact its performance?

If it does, then we have a clear way to increase performance

For y'all pc folk

Won't affect consoles

[green estuary]

actually scratch that
technically it was eternal 1.1, not update 1

but hopefully they do remove it

[solar cairn]

TDA got a discount, it is unlikely that they intend to remove the protection in the near future

[green estuary]

eternal also got an early discount

[frail bloom]

I was thinking in maybe 3 months

[green estuary]

but this is all speculation anyway

[frail bloom]

Since denuvo lasted for abt 6 months I think??

Can someone help me remember

For Eternal when it had denuvo

[green estuary]

eternal released in march 2020
denuvo was gone in may

[frail bloom]

Huh I thought denuvo was added in a later patch

[green estuary]

ahh wait

[frail bloom]

My recollection is hazy

[green estuary]

anti-cheat was removed may 2020
anti-tamper was removed in 2023

[frail bloom]

Which one affects performance

[green estuary]

so denuvo was still there for the first 3 years

[green estuary]

both

[frail bloom]

Damn

Which one is more severe?

[green estuary]

apparently the anti-tamper is more performance-draining

or so I'm reading

[frail bloom]

So if anti-cheat was removed, how much fps would y'all gain? And building off of that, how much fps would y'all get when anti-tamper is removed

[green estuary]

no idea

all we have are anecdotes

[frail bloom]

Aw man

Sorry

At least I have moy consistent 60 fps with slight dips at times

💀

[spiral yew]

Why does this game have an anti-cheat on pc? It's a singleplayer only game

[frail bloom]

No clue

What does denuvo do, prevent piracy or something?

[vital rapids]

It doesn't have anti-cheat as far as I am aware, where did you get that information?

Yes, Denuvo in this instance is for DRM

[frail bloom]

Where does it say anti cheat

[frail bloom]

Does it have anti-tamper?

And is that bad

[spiral yew]

You said it not me

[frail bloom]

I didn't I asked if someone if they could differentiate between anti cheat and tamper

Cuz there's different forms of denuvo apparently

[vital rapids]

Yes, or at least it has anti piracy measures (install limits) and in an ideal world games would not.

But not anti-cheat afaik

[frail bloom]

And is that bad for fps in this instance

How did it affect eternal

[spiral yew]

Didn't really think about that, just read out of context

[vital rapids]

Probably negligible effect on performance at worst. But you would have to verify to know

[frail bloom]

Do we know for eternal?

It had anti cheat for like 2 months apparently and 3 years for anti tamper appparently

[pine rapids]

What about berserker trophy ps5?

[vital rapids]

If I remember rightly Eternal had different protections because multi player and they were removed. So probably more impact and more noticed when they removed it, perhaps someone can tell us

[vital rapids]

Fixed

[frail bloom]

Fixed

[vital rapids]

😂

[hasty stone]

What extra content do you think we will see for the qcon update

[frail bloom]

Yur mum

[hasty stone]

They didn't rly tease anything except slow mo and a patch lol

[frail bloom]

Maybe they'll tickle some aliens

[hasty stone]

Let's hope

[frail bloom]

Ye number one suspect above me

[hasty stone]

Hugo bum tickler

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/eyy-baby-cute-adorable-happy-gif-16713568

[hasty stone]

Bf6 open beta same day as qcon update

Gonna be funs

[frail bloom]

In all serioussness:
2 master levels
Horde mode trailer
Qol changes(slo mo slider, blocking while switching)
Acts 2 3 balance changes
Mech and dragon tweaks(atlan electrical stomp)

[vital rapids]

Master levels. Not multiplayer. Maybe DLC announcement

[frail bloom]

That's all I got

[hasty stone]

When did he say horde mode

[frail bloom]

He never did

I was speculating

[hasty stone]

It better not be like eternal I want something different

[frail bloom]

But "right in line" implies smt y'know

[hasty stone]

2 master levels sounds right though

[frail bloom]

Hato says 3 but not so sure anymore

[hasty stone]

Kool

[solar cairn]

We need more achievements

And skins for different passages

[green estuary]

eternal had anti-cheat because of battlemode as well as anti-tamper
tda only has anti-tamper

[solar cairn]

Eternal gave different things for passing master levels on different difficulties, there were achievements for passing the campaign with 1 life and so on

I want the game to encourage you to do something

[green estuary]

other than in-game skins, there was no reward for either completing master levels or UN in eternal
the only thing eternal had that tda doesn't in that regard is the actual steam/ps/xbox achievement for beating extra life mode with a certain number of lives remaining

and frankly that achievement was kinda bs anyway because you could just cheese it by picking a lower difficulty (much like you can with tda and the sliders)

[frail bloom]

They could've locked the sliders on your first UN attempt

[green estuary]

they should have just made it so you couldn't make any sliders easier

[frail bloom]

No no some ppl need it

[solar cairn]

Or locked

[frail bloom]

Just lock it for UN

[green estuary]

for UN I mean

[frail bloom]

Ye

Imo it was silly to disregard UN like that

It's an important difficulty and take so much to accomplish yet the only thing you can trust is someones word

Or the absence of the m

[green estuary]

well at least they put the M* on the completion screen

[meager vortex]

5days left quakecon2025

[green estuary]

so if the guy doesn't show the sliders then you know they cheesed

[frail bloom]

Ye lmao

[frail bloom]

Bro's been counting

[solar cairn]

++

[frail bloom]

What do you want in quakecon then

[solar cairn]

I’m counting seconds

[meager vortex]

some one count x.com too

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053748

[frail bloom]

Aauuuuuu

I think we'll all like the atlan much more

That electric stomp and punch speed buff looks awesome

[meager vortex]

quakecon2025 update maybe quakecon2025 skin for doom the dark ages?

[frail bloom]

Probably

[solar cairn]

We hope it will be fun to look

[meager vortex]

they will give the code???

[green estuary]

honestly I really liked the atlan sections
from how much people were complaining I was expecting them to take up an insane amount of time, but in reality they were just fun, short breaks from combat that I really appreciated

[frail bloom]

Some ppl forget you can just run past them lmao

At least for barrier core and most of hell breaker

I think with the new electrical stomp and acts 2 and 3 being much harder, they'll be much more appreciated

[hasty stone]

There will be new skins for sure and a qcon skin..

Prolly skins for beating master levels

[meager vortex]

electrical stomp stun titans amazing!

[frail bloom]

If I had a dollar for every ".." I've seen I would have like 50

[hasty stone]

@meager vortex yeah and glad they sped up Titan fighting

[frail bloom]

But more titans

[meager vortex]

damn

good!

[hasty stone]

It won't be a lot more

[frail bloom]

Well duh but probably one or two added

[hasty stone]

500

[frail bloom]

For each arena

[solar cairn]

I wonder if they will leave a shield in the next game

[frail bloom]

Which is huge cuz one titan means 20 extra seconds

[solar cairn]

Very cool integrated into the combat

[frail bloom]

Depends on the game and depends on the time period

If it's the civil war, he most likely keeps it

[meager vortex]

doom slayer new weapon doom spear!!!!

[solar cairn]

I’d love to play doom again with a shield

[frail bloom]

Bruh

[meager vortex]

lol

[solar cairn]

Didn’t anyone like the shield?

((

[meager vortex]

i love it

[calm tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1401382549233860608/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_Screenshot_2025.08.02_-_21.40.00.76.png?ex=689012b4&is=688ec134&hm=b4e9d97f33d651e880092b453dc6e6dd84336adbaf02002045f344a08db9df5d&

So is the consensus that these chaps are marauders before they became demons?

[frail bloom]

Probs

[stoic sleet]

Why didnt he just kill them now so they couldnt be annoying marauders from eternal

[calm tangle]

I'm actually not so sure

[frail bloom]

Cuz uh it's his comrades or smt

Just a theory

[stoic sleet]

Yeah but eternal is before tda

So he would know they would become evil

[frail bloom]

Ah how could I forget

[solar cairn]

No

[stoic sleet]

Yes

[solar cairn]

No

[stoic sleet]

Prove me wrong

[hearty edge]

ya probably, marauders are night sentinels that allied with the khan maykr and were revived after falling

[solar cairn]

Compare the view of Valen, in TDA he is young, in the eternal he is old, in the eternal and Novik has been dead for a long time

[hearty edge]

he did but then they came back as marauders