the-dark-ages

[vital rapids]

that's a screenshot you've clicked on a screenshot

[lime scroll]

huh tf u mean screenshot I mean in game

nvm got 10 fps

yay

[vital rapids]

maybe you have an igpu enabled? It can try to run on that if so.

instead of your graphics card

[lime scroll]

guys has aggadong hunter fight changed I mean he got a new glory kill gotta send it

[sonic turret]

NGL, I don't like incidental trophies, that you gain anyway as a part of a game's natural progression, I prefer trophies that can only be achieved by going out of our way and completing additional challenges.

[keen vortex]

when is the next big patch gonna drop

[solid pagoda]

on deez nuts

gotem

[keen vortex]

i said when not where tho

[solid pagoda]

fck i forgot that

il love dark ages

[fair gull]

I just want an endless mode

I dont feel like replaying levels to get my fix of demon killing

[frail bloom]

#artwork message
The first Boss

@harsh egret

[frail bloom]

Probably the week Hugo comes back or the week after

Idk when that is

#artwork message
@dark thunder
Legacy of Rust demon

[astral ravine]

real talk, Kreed Maykr's boss theme is probably the hardest boss theme in the new doom trilogy

[frail bloom]

I dislike his theme heavily

Almost no mayker synth, plays his theme for 20 seconds

It's an alright track on its own, but with a boss? It just leaves a sour taste in my mouth

Honestly, boss themes in doom usually suck for me lol

[dark thunder]

Absolute peak, this needs to be a 3d model NOW

[hollow sandal]

Yea that's cool

[stoic sleet]

I really like samirs unique art style

[fast sleet]

guys can i please get some help here. the graphics/quality of the models of the enemies and environment is very low quality. i dont know what to do im very disappointed feels almost unplayable. im on ps5, with a 4k monitor

but whats even more baffling is thag the little tutorial popups for guns and other equipment demonstrating their use. the quality seems much clearer and not nearly as blurry and low quality

[stoic sleet]

Other people have pointed that out

[inner wigeon]

Just about halfway through the game on mostly maxed out difficulty (speed in unchanged, resource value at 2) and I feel myself getting better, though I did break my moral code of not using the bfc

[stoic sleet]

I think it was either in spoilers chat or reddit

They complained about the graphics going from amazing and great performance on ps5 to worse performance and somehow worse graphics

It was apparently to do with the update

[fast sleet]

the graphics are SO bad i cant see any details

[stoic sleet]

Send a screenshot in dms or screenshots

I wanna see the severity

[frank turtle]

when u get ur first wraithstone, what upgrade do yall like going for first?

the imapler upgrade isn't really that useful until you get the dreadmace imo, either of the shotgun upgrades are good

[stoic sleet]

I like to go for reaver chainshot, rocket launcher or shredder

[frank turtle]

yeah the rocket is really damn good if you use it right

[stoic sleet]

What weapons do you like?

[frank turtle]

I don't really care for the chainshot that much, idk I barely use it

I like the imapler, ssg, combat shotgun, accelerator, and some others

[stoic sleet]

I like the accelerator ngl

[frank turtle]

I really like the rocket launcher but i wish it was more of a damage weapon instead of a utility weapon

[stoic sleet]

Its damage isnt exactly lackinh

[frank turtle]

it's scary to use on ultra nightmare so I don't really touch it unless I wanna have fun

[frail bloom]

I mean, if it was a damage weapon, you would break the game

[stoic sleet]

The accelerator has insane dps

[frail bloom]

Not many long range options

[stoic sleet]

U need all upgrades tho

[frank turtle]

yeah, mainly cause it's upgrades are really good, so I get why it doesn't have crazy damage

[stoic sleet]

I for the 2 choice upgrades i go more accuracy and charge drops slower

[frank turtle]

max upgrades on the accelerator is really underrated

I like the accuracy one too lol

feels better to use

[stoic sleet]

Real

[frank turtle]

I'm gonna that chainshot upgrade, maybe it'll grow on me

I really like the splash damage it gives off the enemies

[frail bloom]

#artwork message
@harsh egret
@dark thunder

What we wanted but couldn't have

Hate to break it but we may never see the balgaar in like forevs

Are you telling me I spelled it wrong

No. No.

Oh phew

Whaddya think?

[tranquil badge]

I forgot how much of a parry-fest the second to last boss is

probably the sweatiest part of dark ages for me

[fierce tendon]

Hey ik this is a tda chat but I have a question. Why do I feel like I'm always the problem?

[unkempt dragon]

Not sure how to answer this because it's a very vague inquiry. If you want to post in #general you can, but it may not be good to spin in circles with strangers imho.

[fierce tendon]

Okay

Srry for bringing my personal problems here.

Talk to everyone later

[unkempt dragon]

Don't be too hard on yourself. Life is hard. Do something that'll take your mind off things for awhile. 🙂

[fierce tendon]

Thx

[unkempt dragon]

Play TDA

[frank turtle]

I think there's literally 1 mech mission where you have your atlan skin equipped

[supple oracle]

no TDA is a bad, cause I am bad at it

[brave leaf]

Just got the dreadmace

[unkempt dragon]

git gud

[supple oracle]

bruh, need to mark that as spoiler bruh

[dark thunder]

Would have been so crazy in the game with a flail

[supple oracle]

No

[hard thistle]

I am curious. What would you guys think if in the DLC, we had the Civil War in Argent D’Nur, and had to face the Marauder, just with a rebalanced and optimized style tuned to Dark Ages combat? The parries would go STUPID crazy!

[unkempt dragon]

oh okie

lol

[quick wind]

Hi

[daring path]

does anyone know how to turn off boss bars on the HUD?

[spare panther]

What are some fun challenges i can do for my next playthroughs?

[manic stone]

Guys I have an issue, I just bought dark ages on my ps5, is there a way to put the game voices in english but to keep the texts in spanish? like changing some input on the ps5 to spanish so only texts remain in spanish?

[frank turtle]

I just realized I have 168 hrs on dark ages

anyone else

[spare panther]

i have like 78 hrs or smth ive been busy

[frank turtle]

Wonder if anyone has 200 yet

probably speedrunners

[merry sapphire]

wouldnt it basically be just a smaller aggadon hunter or cosmic baron?

[merry sapphire]

Cause in doom Games, every death is basically your fault. you Gotta learn the mechanics n master the game n shi and then ultimately test yourself with Ultra Nightmare

[unkempt dragon]

Don't think that's what they meant

[frank turtle]

it could be an issue with your self esteem or confidence issues. they can make you feel like that

sometimes it's hard to build those up

[daring path]

can anyone help me with this

[frank turtle]

I'm not too sure you can, atleast on console

[daring path]

man that blows because i'm trying to record no hud gameplay and there's just a big ass boss bar whenever there's a formation encounter or boss

[frank turtle]

oh does the boss bar not go away if you turn off the hud?

[delicate grotto]

Nah, it doesn’t

[austere tiger]

Started my playthrough. This game is good so far.

[frank turtle]

nice

[tropic citrus]

Like 10 hrs haha

[frank turtle]

the 3rd ruby on spire of nerethul is the scariest room on ultra nightmare

my god

it's a argadon hunter with a revanet spawning and if u kill the revenant it spawns again

[plain tartan]

Hello, my friend says he got a good PC, it’s a rx 570 and an intel cpu, 4GB ram but he says he can’t run the game; why ?

[full barn]

good pc in 2020 not 2025

4gb ram 😭 naaaah

[graceful lion]

what

bro he needs to upgrade his pc like 2 generations to run the game 😭

[final dune]

maybe in 2015

[fleet spruce]

that's WAY below minimum requirements

no Ray Tracing compatible GPU either, ofcourse it won't ever run on this device

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1386256916480655390/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_06_02_2025_21_12_02.jpg?ex=68590bdc&is=6857ba5c&hm=b1a833e04c5ac8c5b25a8e39ed33a19b7145c5ccccc37608f7e1d3647167cf47&

still amazed by how it looks even when running on low 720p fsr balanced

[long sparrow]

TDA looks really good

[graceful lion]

even when your gpu shits itself running it, still looks good

[long sparrow]

Very true

[novel bronze]

Does anyone know how to fix the Berserker trophy bug?

[graceful lion]

it should be fixed by now

for all platforms i think

[novel bronze]

cool thank

[icy spindle]

I just got the golden doom slayer

[keen vortex]

guys did they say when the next big patch gonna come out

[frank turtle]

gg! I love it

[frank turtle]

I don't think so sadly

[frosty coyote]

Ikr

It is amazing

[split gate]

It’s not worth the risk

[split gate]

Based opinion

Top ten dumbest TDA opinions of all time

[vital rapids]

Definitely adjust the difficulty/sliders until it's a fun challenge for you and don't give it a second thought bro. The first order of business is to have fun slaying demons.
The difficulty curve is magnificent to ascend if/when you choose to, but you have to be ON that curve having a blast first or that desire may never come.

[fathom remnant]

I need more campaign levels hopefully the dlc won't be too long.

So are we saying serrat has the modified wings attached to his nervous system to control them?

[frank turtle]

nah it definitely isn't, I'm just trying to 100% un

[sweet nexus]

:3

[obsidian mesa]

how much is the dark verdant skin worth?

[merry sapphire]

oh shidddd my bad

[merry sapphire]

its not even worth it at this point in the game. just collect enough stuff and upgrade the weapons/rune/melee stuff you main and thats it

[austere tiger]

Damn thats not bad

I just play it on ps5

[fleet spruce]

ROG Ally X here, handheld PC moment

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1386257027730509984/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_06_02_2025_21_36_19.jpg?ex=68590bf6&is=6857ba76&hm=07f600f7bd106aaa5b1ddd0e495bb24066d32cec1c1855011e8c027e77188138&

Ignore the cacodemon

[novel bronze]

Well for me the berserker trophy is still bugged

[split gate]

Caco bro wants to play tennis

[austere tiger]

my ps5 runs it really well im enjoying the game a lot

i like all the difficulty settings you can tune with

i always wished a pokemon game would do that

[slim tulip]

Im playing on i5-12400f rx6600 16gb ram PC and it runs at 1080p Low FSR Quality at 60-80 fps depending on the level and environment
looks amazing even on lowest settings ngl

[north spire]

The cycler is fucking awesome

I love pairing it with my other weapons cause I can kill a heavy demon and cause a chain reaction with the amount of shock effects I can apply to other demons

Easily the best plasma rifle in the entire modern trilogy imo

[fleet spruce]

Meanwhile I have 30-40 fps, usually closer to 30

[silver trail]

Ngl the dark ages I call it doom the dank ages but it’s super fun

[half spindle]

How can you ignore this magnificent caco?

[split gate]

I fell out of bounds in level 18 during my pandemonium run 🗣️

[hollow sandal]

Based

[full barn]

lowkey whats keeping me from replaying the game is all the filler dragon and mech slop

it just drags on and on

among other sections in the game that are nice in your 1st playthrough but dogshit in future playthroughs

i am NOT sitting through a trivial ass dragon mission for an hour

[hollow sandal]

A hour tho?

[harsh egret]

i feel like they are better now at least

both mech and dragon segments go by a little faster, its come to a point where i cant complain about them anymore imo

[hollow sandal]

If it's any consolation you can rapid fire the enhanced attack(or whatever it's called) by rapidly pressing your fire button

Don't hold your fire button

[harsh egret]

yep

[finite sequoia]

I think my ultra nightmare attempts have burned me out of doom I haven’t played the game since my last attempt and I don’t ever feel like playing it again:/

[burnt finch]

I havent played doom the dark ages yet but does it have 120 fps mode setting?
because there was in eternal

[hollow sandal]

I don't beleive it's on ps5

[astral charm]

tda doesn't have 120 on any console

[burnt finch]

Raytracing
120 fps
Default
those were in eternal
so it doesnt have 120 fps mode in the dark ages?

[solid nacelle]

Raytracing is on at all times in dark ages so 120 fps is kind of out of the question

On consoles

[burnt finch]

ok thanks for the information

[neat rune]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-mordecai-rigby-laugh-laughing-gif-5407353

[frail bloom]

I mean that is fair that it's 60 fps on ps5, eternal was 60 fps on the ps4. I'd say on the next gen console, tda will have a 120 fps mode

[burnt finch]

Right thats because of performance mode

[graceful lion]

@hard thistle ||why did the witch say "return our god to us" when referring to the old one?, does it mean he is the god of the cosmic realm, and does that mean that he was already dead in some way before doomguy's killing of him with the BFC?||

tda spoilers for those who didnt play

[merry sapphire]

he was locked. she just wanted the demons to free him

[graceful lion]

oh i forgor he was locked up eventhough im literally on that mission rn 😭

[frail bloom]

You play pixel gun 3d? How is it, last time I played it, it was impossible online. Campaign was fun tho

What I mean is that it's pay to win now

[graceful lion]

oh i remember it

[frail bloom]

Ye good times I had, customizing my skin, playing that wave survival mode

Now if I hop on, I'd get blasted by some guy with a coca cola blaster

[burnt finch]

Still same but worse now

[rocky badger]

What happens to your save file once you beat Pandemonium and UN?

You can only view the final cutscene? You can replay the last mission? Nothing/it's just locked there?

[cinder estuary]

Its 60 fps on every console, and it doesnt drop ever

Even XSS

[frail bloom]

Ye that's good, I'm just saying on next gen consoles, tda most likely will have a 120 fps mode

[next thistle]

Just played all the way through with Acceleratelor maxed out. I definitely slept on this gun my first 7-8 playthrough

[vital rapids]

dude holy crap thank you so much. Can't believe I didn't realise this

[silent hemlock]

Hey there mates, I have a genuine question. I can't see the difference between low and ultra violence graphics. But even when I swap I only lose like a frame

[crisp dune]

I just got Dark Ages, any tips?

[merry pumice]

press left click to shoot your gun

[reef yacht]

I’m getting constant crashes in spire of nerathul after beating the empowered revenant, just before getting to the bfc, when the game tries to increase my ammo capacity. Tried many graphical options (I’m usually with everything at the lowest), different game speeds etc…

I tried restarting the level but it crashed maybe 15 times at the exact same place.

I think that this was caused by the latest game update, on my first playthrough (release patch) I did not encounter this problem.
Anyone else ?

[reef yacht]

Get a refund (jk)

[crisp dune]

I'm on ps5

[merry pumice]

press right trigger to shoot your gun

[crisp dune]

I know

I'm on level 4

[merry pumice]

in all seriousness - learn to use the shield and guns in tandem with eachother to maximize efficiency. both your hands act independently

[haughty idol]

Press the shield button to block green attacks

[merry pumice]

also spec into upgrades like the salvage impaler that compliment simultaneous use of the shield and guns

or whatever upgrade makes it so the ammo makes your impaler crit boosted

same with cooked rockets

and chainshot first upgrade

[crisp dune]

The shield is so broken I barley use the guns beside the old-fashioned plasma gun to break enemy shield

[merry pumice]

resist the temptation to walk around with the SSG the entire game, experiment with all weapons and find a handful of ones you prefer using

[crisp dune]

Okay, thanks! I usually use the shield charge and saw + blood punch combo

[neat rune]

You on pc?

[lime scroll]

shit Azhrak fight is actually hard I mean if ur not doing like everything right its over, did UN but still died 3 times to him on nightmare, GL to those who are about no fight him on UN, use mace but dont abuse it

[maiden onyx]

man i just finished level 11

the fully upgraded chainshot absolutely melted the aggadon hunter while exploding the mobs before they can even get close

out of genuine curiosity other than skillful use of the SSG, are there any other guns that can quickly make mincemeat out of mini-bosses

[cinder estuary]

Azrak is giga easy

[lavish kindle]

chainshot
empowered impaler (head)shots do huge damage
ravager at full firing speed shreds and drip feeds you health

[cinder estuary]

Ravager completely trivializes azrak as he cant deal with your sustain

Azrak cant deal with combat shotgun as well

[cinder estuary]

Lol

Chainshot is one of the slowest dps weapons in the game against anything that doesn't have armor

[cinder estuary]

The actual highest DPS weapons are:

1. Accelerator (Higher shooting speed)
2. Shredder (Pincushion)
3. Ravager
4. Impaler
5. Super Shotgun

Impaler might be higher than ravager if you are only getting headshots

But it's still slower than accelerator and shredder

[lavish kindle]

fair enough
accelerator and shredder feel like ass to use though so I ain't touching them

[cinder estuary]

It's only ass if you don't know how to use them

[lavish kindle]

No, they're ass because I don't like how they feel. I'm not worried about where they fall on a DPS spreadsheet

[cinder estuary]

Have you used them more than once?

Low bar

[lavish kindle]

I used them both enough to get weapon masteries.
It's not really id's fault I just do not like sustained fire weapons. I will always take burst damage over sustain for game feel.

[cinder estuary]

I will say tho, against mobile enemies the accelerator is super ass

But seeing a komodo champion health bar go down like ice melting on a volcano will never get old

[merry sapphire]

i refuse to believe that the shredder pincushion deals more damage than the super shotgun and impaler and ravager

[lime scroll]

if ur locked in

[idle sleet]

Are you playing on high difficulty? shield ain't OP then. need guns all the time.

PRO TIP: Leave fodder around the map so you have something to shield bash to when you need to get out of dodge.

[crisp dune]

I'm on Ultra-Violence, is that hard or not? I can't tell much.

[lime scroll]

but dont fodder demons respawn all the time, why leave them if they respawn all the time

[idle sleet]

They do, but not always where you need them.

[lime scroll]

true

[idle sleet]

I've found I was mashing them all the time and getting nothing out of it.

[lime scroll]

they drop health when ur on low health like 50 or below

[idle sleet]

i was just going FULL CARNAGE mode. my conclusion now is that unless you're on low health, no point mashing the fodder

[crisp dune]

Is Ultra-Violence hard?

[lime scroll]

arent u playing on it, u should know

[crisp dune]

I am, and I can't tell

[lime scroll]

well I wound say MID

[idle sleet]

yeah, exactly. outside of low health situations I meant, there's little reason to mash them -- and you're actually taking a potential escape route away from yourself

[crisp dune]

Same

[lime scroll]

between hard and easy

[crisp dune]

Yes

[torn veldt]

dude. path tracing.

for cinematics especially it looks incredible, but ingame, i mean 65fps with dlss balanced at 1440p is like yk super but its an fps game

id rather have 100fps without it

though framegen is stupid responsive...

[real lynx]

Hurts a bit too much

I get 70-80 on dlss quality

1440p. Technically playable but I prefer 144

[sonic turret]

Do you notice the difference?

[cinder estuary]

It just has higher dps as a whole.

Its only beaten by the accelerator

The impaler is better at sustained damage as it has virtually infinite ammo

But the accelerator and the shredder just nuke health bars

[cinder estuary]

He is the easiest part of late game UN

You just need to not be sleeping

[torn veldt]

i do but its not substantial enough to be worth the performance hit

also adds a lot of unecessary noise

[sonic turret]

I've got a 20 year old TV, so it all looks the same to me.

[torn veldt]

old tv or an oled panel, the difference is not big. i can see "more color" as in better volumetrics and generally better lighting (brighter more colorful scenes because of the bounce light) which is to be expected but not much else. the transparency and reflections effects dont look much better. ray reconstruction though is awesome and i wish it was added as an option outside of path tracing

and you get these few benefits with a lot of noise as a result. one of the reasons i dont also play cyberpunk with path tracing.

[sonic turret]

I was over Cyberpunk a long time ago. Did they ever make a new Witcher game afterwards?

[torn veldt]

They remastered the witcher 3. Witcher 4 is in development. They recently released a demo video of some sort

[frank turtle]

what weapons do you like using on un?

I usually go for imapler and ssg/combat, I haven't really tried out accelerator enough

[hollow sandal]

Accelerator is insane

Anyone having an issue where the shield rune menu is inaccessible unless at a shrine?

[wheat sigil]

why do you care so much about what a random youtuber thinks lol

yeah in response to you xd

[lucid atlas]

I hope we are getting dlc

[spiral kite]

I find it too easy but also too punishing in a weird way. I do heavy damage but I make 1 or two mistakes, I'm dead.

[cinder estuary]

Impaler and Pulverizer are the best weapons up until you get to chapter 10

Then the rocket launcher becomes the safest weapon to run with

Then the impaler comes back on late game

[frank turtle]

the launcher feels so risky to run with its splash damage though 💔

are u sure it's worth it

[cinder estuary]

Just parry

It makes agaddon hunter encounters super easy

Especially that one on spire of something something with the revenant

In my opinion the riskiest weapons on UN are the SSG, the Accelerator and the Shredder

[frank turtle]

oh yeah that one is a bitch to do sometimes, usually I would just impaler them

[hollow sandal]

Oh Yea, that one fucked me up

[cinder estuary]

It's completely trivialized with the rocket launcher

[frank turtle]

yeah ssg is low key risky cause of it bring so upclose and If u miss a 1 shot

[frank turtle]

why accelerator? because of moving targets?

[tranquil badge]

yeah i think after I got the 3 of them i barely used them for mid/late game. combat shotgun 🔛 🔝

[cinder estuary]

In order, the best weapons on UN are

Impaler/Ravager (Both are amazing for Enhanced Asscrack)

Rocket Launcher (As long as you are getting parries, it's the safest weapon to use)

Pulverizer (Completely trivializes everything before your first wraithstone)

Combat Shotgun (Infinite sustain before the ravager)

The rest of the weapons are risky, especially the shredder, accelerator and the grenade launcher

The accelerator can take out any boss super quick, but it only works if you can keep your aim perfect, as it offers 0 utility

[cinder estuary]

0 utility

It doesn't do anything besides do damage, and it needs the flail to break armor

[frank turtle]

the utility on the rocket launcher is pretty insane

in every other doom game it's a full on damage weapon

[cinder estuary]

The rocket launcher also has insanely fast clears with the red vstiant

[cinder estuary]

It still is, it has absurdly fast clears if you don't care about the self damage.

The true strength is how safe it is to use it as you can just wait for a parry and then go hog wild

[frank turtle]

oh yeah, did you know they recently tweaked the ravager damage towards boss enemies?

[cinder estuary]

It also can one shot cacodemons with the cooked perk

[cinder estuary]

It still is amazing because of the sustain

Asscrack can't even deal with the sustain

[frank turtle]

it shreds everything once it's charged up

you can even shoot the air to charge it up too, unlike the accelerator

[cinder estuary]

The best weapon for half of the game is the pulverizer

Haste is so broken

[frank turtle]

yeah haste is wild, I just haven't really used it since I started playing un

the best shield upgrade imo is steadfast, I usually go for that asap

[cinder estuary]

I always max out the shield by chapter 4

[frank turtle]

I was gonna thank you for the advice but then I realized what discord tag that's from

jk

[cinder estuary]

I max out the shield by chap 4, then use resources to max out flail by siege part 1, then I focus on maxing out my weapons until I get the dreadmace

Once you get the dreadmace the game difficulty drops by 100000000 factors

[frank turtle]

dreadmace is crazy, I love comboing it against enemies

[cinder estuary]

Dreadmace is broken

[frank turtle]

someone could say that flail has more utility but the mace is just so damn good in damage and ammo, and even health once you upgrade it

[cinder estuary]

I think it needs a nerf

[frank turtle]

it probably does lmao

[cinder estuary]

There is no better utility than killing a cosmic baron instantly

The daggers are also broken

[frank turtle]

if you pair impaler and dreadmace against asscrack, he's cooked

[cinder estuary]

The daggers IK any heavy

[frank turtle]

they fuck up mancubus like they're nothing

[cinder estuary]

Impaler + Dreamace

Ravager + Flail

[cinder estuary]

It instakills cyberdemons

It instakills a leader mancubus

[frank turtle]

I disagree with heaven splitter > daggers

heaven splitter is still 2nd best tho

[cinder estuary]

No better utility than just killing everything

The daggers are the most powerful runes

The thunder stuns a cacodemon

The daggers kill the cacodemon

[frank turtle]

have you tried the cycler at all

[cinder estuary]

I did

[frank turtle]

ppl say it's good but idk if I care for it

[cinder estuary]

Cycler + Dagger has the highest burst in the game

Uncontested

[frank turtle]

damn wtf

[cinder estuary]

It instakills most leaders

[frank turtle]

fully upgraded right

with the shock ability

[cinder estuary]

As soon as you get a parry on a proced leader, they die

[cinder estuary]

Obviously

The problem with this setup, even if it has the highest burst, is that you NEED a ranged unit shooting parriable stuff at you

It's really good at the komodo + revenant fight

I'm thinking of doing a full guide, encounter by encounter to UN

[frank turtle]

that'd be really cool

or atleast do the more important encounters, like the ones ppl are likely to struggle with

[cinder estuary]

I think the hardest encounter in the game is the revenant gorenest on hell breaker

It is actually so batshit insane, you have almost no cover, the arena is super small and a bunch of whiplashes spawn

[frank turtle]

what about the 3rd ruby on spire

[cinder estuary]

You have the bfc by then

[frank turtle]

nah u don't

[cinder estuary]

Any encounter where you have the bfc is a joke

Wait mv

[frank turtle]

it's right before the bfc

[cinder estuary]

I thought you were talking about the one gorenest on the cosmic realm

[frank turtle]

oh nah

[cinder estuary]

The ruby on spire with the aggadon hunter right?

Rocket Launcher + Thunder

[frank turtle]

like, in a normal run it's completely not worth the trouble, but I'm trying to 100% un and that one scares the fuck outta me

[cinder estuary]

Just sniff the hunter's balls so you can Perma parry him and get heals

[frank turtle]

yeah and the respawning revanent

[cinder estuary]

I did my first pande run as a 100% run as well

I got 99% on 2 levels

Spire because I missed 5 fucking gold, and the level right after, I missed ONE DREADMACE KILL

But I did get everything, including the weapon mastery stuff

[frank turtle]

yeah I fucking died last night on the last encounter on chapter 16

the cosmic baron broke my shield ontop of a revenant

[cinder estuary]

Just focus on the agaddon hunter with the rocket launcher, the revenant almost always stays close

[cinder estuary]

BFC those fuckers

The last gorenest gets three bfc shots

[frank turtle]

do you think the helbreaker encounter is harder?

[cinder estuary]

Yes

[frank turtle]

it's honestly a toss up for me

[cinder estuary]

Because the agaddon encounter ends as soon as you kill the agaddon hunter

[frank turtle]

ohh

that's right

[cinder estuary]

The hell breaker revenant gorenest is actually a nightmare

You need to use like, 6 different weapons there

The chainshot to nuke the arachnotrons and the armored pinkies

[frank turtle]

you should make a clip and show how you would do that encounter

[cinder estuary]

I can do that

I'll be playing tomorrow

[frank turtle]

awesome

that'll help me and others aswell

[cinder estuary]

I'll get my UN run up to there I think

I usually am just testing stuff

[frank turtle]

or just nightmare select chapter but whatever works for you

[cinder estuary]

Problem is I'll have maxed out stats

[frank turtle]

oh that's right

[cinder estuary]

By that point you only have 140/90 HP and Srmor

It makes a huge difference

[frank turtle]

yeah then just do a un run then

really hope the dlc has more encounters like that, makes you really think about what ur doing, mainly to experienced players who've played through the game multiple times

[cinder estuary]

The largest problem of that room is that you cannot focus the revenant until you kill the whiplash, or els ANOTHER whiplash spawns

[cinder estuary]

The game has 10/10 encounters from hellbreaker up to the point you get the bfc

And it loses a lot of the difficulty once you get the dreadmace

The final gorenest would be super hard and fun if you didn't have the BFC by then

As soon as the agaddon hunter appears, you bfc him

Then you kill the knight wave normally

Then you kill the cosmic baron wave with the bfc

Then you kill the NEXT cosmic baron wave with the bfc

You also get the challenge by doing this

You bfc the center of the final arena to get the 25 kills challenge

[sour terrace]

what's funny is that i noticed encounters after bfc got easier and i forgot i even had the bfc lol

[cinder estuary]

Overall I think the hardest level in the game is the barracks

For UN I mean

[sour terrace]

i'd find bfc ammo after the fight and was like "oh yeah", rinse repeat

[cinder estuary]

But hellbreaker has the hardest encounter

[bold mulch]

seige part 1 beat my ass on nightmare the first time idk how i'm supposed to get past it on UN

[shy hull]

I return to the game to continue my UN run after about a month or so. And damn they really did up the difficulty. I'm struggling on pandemonium now too 😭

[cinder estuary]

I had more trouble with siege a while back, but once I standardized my early game, it became giga easy

Max out shield
Max out flail

Boom, siege gets nuked

No matter what weapon you choose, siege becomes a joke with a maxed out flail

[shy hull]

I do appreciate it though. Felt a bit too easy before

[frank turtle]

oh my god fuck that stupid level

game is enjoyable after that level

[shy hull]

Ah that would make sense. That's where I had to keep restarting at. I knew they added the mancubuses too. I didn't remember those guys during the champion fight

[cinder estuary]

The mancubus makes that fight 10x harder

The hardest point of that is the updated impaler room

8 fucking stone imps, 4 Pinkies, 2 Nightmare Imps, infinitely respawning hell knights

Actually a BDSM room

Also 4 stone imps, 2 infinitely respawning hell knights and 4 lost souls on the mancubus leader

[shy hull]

Yeah the stone imps kept killing me. I watch out pretty hard for them now. Actually my kryptonite

[bold mulch]

the stone imps and mancubi are my bane early game

I just become lawfully wedded to the impaler for half the game

[split gate]

Is Barracks the Cultist Base of TDA UN runs 🤔

Hmmm I struggled with Barracks more in my second pandemonium run, I had the most deaths there 👀

[harsh egret]

smth about replaying the game does smth to u, did to me as well

[split gate]

Idk how he would see it that way but I haven’t watched the vid, but props for him saying that tho

[harsh egret]

my love for this game grew even more and now i just want some master levels, horde mode, smth on the side

i still need to do pandemonium/UN so thats on the to do list when i get time

same ngl

i like alot of the tracks in 2016 and eternal and many of them will always be iconic and generally great but yeah the tda ost imo is the best, maybe not "by far" to me but ill give them a rating for reference:
tda: 9,5
eternal: 8.5 or smth
2016: maybe like a 8.25

yh maybe

im ranking tda that much higher cuz i like the tracks overall alot more, while some tracks i like and some dont really like in eternal/2016

fair

yeah i agree with the tottfiy part u said, felt that before on and off

ye a friend of mine has a similar opinion, made him play through 2016 and eternal and then dark ages recently and he isnt even a doom fan in general, but he still pops up the dark ages ost pretty often now

he likes the style of metal in tda alot more

yeah my friend went on youtube to look at the 2016 ost and i told him to go on skullhacker and he turned that shit off instantly it was hilarious, even tho i love it but for him that is horrid

he doesnt like that stuff

he loves dark ages' style

he listens to eternal and 2016 and just thinks its random loud noises

dont remember specifically

ik he likes from the ashes, when the shadows first lengthened, unchained predator, infernal chasm, unholy siege

[hollow sandal]

Locked Lobster 2: electric booglaoo

[harsh egret]

i just love pursuit of demons and from the ashes so much

[hollow sandal]

Lol just how you change your username

[harsh egret]

they are 11/10s for me

and what lies below, almost forgot

yup

[round dome]

That one heavy as hell riff in Apotheosis makes me feel like I can 1v1 the sun

The synth in the spider masterminds boss theme was kinda too much, not enough metal

Granted the spider is supposed to be highly cybernetic

[delicate grotto]

I hate how the segments of “Ancestral Beast” that play during the Komodo fight and prolonged combat are cut from the official mix.

Some of the best parts of the entire track.

[frail bloom]

It's funny how someone is so hated, then they slightly change their opinion, and now they're based

Strange

What did Act man see or hear that prompted him to say 9/10 lol

I ain't too keen on any of those besides the Komodo demon track, I personally thought the boss tracks weren't unique enough to justify their connection to the bosses themselves

I know, I'm a debbie downer

But, it's for the slight chance that they receive feedback and go ham for dlc

It's out of a place of respect

[frank turtle]

what do you use for that vagary fight?

[frail bloom]

Impaler all the way

Plus accelerator

[frank turtle]

pulverizer has a good spread but you can't activate the rune with it

[frank turtle]

yeah impaler is really good for those mancubus aswell

[frail bloom]

Huh

I'd like to hear

Or, not...

I thought you were gonna explain how they were unique

Like for example, Blood red has choir and bells

The main menu has tagelharpa for it's riff and melody

[delicate grotto]

Huh, don’t think I’ve noticed that. Possibly the part I’m talking about? I’m moreso talking about the segment that’s a callback to the original game’s OST. I think it might be “Sinister”? Not sure though.

[frail bloom]

Eh, metal doesn't cut it for a mayker boss for me. I would've liked more expirementation that would seperate those tracks from one another

I know I sound like a broken record, but a melody goes a long way.

Imagine if his whole song expanded on the motif you heard from invasion, blood red

Holy city

With weird synth sounds, grungy stuff

Good for him.

I wonder if he'll play the dlc

I will lol

[gilded summit]

Mayo, Midnight , and him were in discord call for a while

[delicate grotto]

Ah I’d have replay it and get back to you then. I know what part of the level you’re talking about.

[frail bloom]

Also, there is a melody that plays during divine retribution, and it shreds. The problem, is that it's drowned under the guitar, and it saddens me to depressing levels

It's so catchy, but it takes so long to get to😭

[delicate grotto]

I love the callback it has

[frail bloom]

Ye sometimes it's just too much noise

Callback? To what

[delicate grotto]

Ykw I think that’s the one that references “Sinister” not Ancestral Beast. Mb

[frail bloom]

where.

I must know.

Bro's gonna leave me hanging

[delicate grotto]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vSY1MHGwjgM 3:45

[frail bloom]

Ye that's with all doom songs

[frail bloom]

Don't you hear that melody? WHY IS IT SO QUIET

IT SHREDS GAIN BOOST IT DAMMIT

[delicate grotto]

I agree with this honestly. Was mixing some music with it last week and pretty much all tracks have this format.

[frail bloom]

Uh so what part of sinister

[delicate grotto]

Ah. Let me grab it

[frail bloom]

Like give me timestamp for Sinister

Thanks

Man I'm so sad, melody is so good but it's so quiet

I NEED to hear it clearer

I wanna throw smt

AUAUHGHGH

Someone gain boost the melody please

Or I might actually talk with Alex lol

Oh wait I know

[delicate grotto]

Shit I meant “Suspense”, sorry. So easy to get these tracks messed up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FMex4f8cwEY

Whole thing basically. Play both side to side. It’s actually easier to hear the similarities with Hulshult’s cover of it. Lol.

For sure

[frail bloom]

@mystic barn
In divine retribution, at 4:07, there is a melody that plays, and I love it. Problem is, the melody is too quiet or the noise above it is too loud, is it possible to seperate the two or am I done for

Is it a good idea to tell Alex Klingle or am stupid

[frail bloom]

Holy crap

AUAIAUHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG

Someone needs to make a compilation

AARRGJGHG BUT IT TAKES 3:45 TO GET THERE

[silent surge]

that boats my float

[delicate grotto]

Oh yeah I can hear what you’re referring to. It’s peak.
Unfortunately I don’t think you can. Maybe if you extract the gamerip files? I can’t cause I’m on console. People have done it with 2016 and Eternal though. Still, I doubt you’d be able to isolate that sound without distorting it

[cinder estuary]

No because on siege you have the flail

The cultist base of tda un is either barracks or holy city

[frail bloom]

Welp, imma wait for dinoheretic to respond, if he doesn't, I'm asking the composers

Not to rework it, but to consider this for future tracks

Actually I might compile a list of criticisms that center around this

Allstin, speak your truth

NOOOOOOOOO

[delicate grotto]

You scared him away

[frail bloom]

Damn

[whole mural]

Act man back tracking

[frail bloom]

Guys Act man is not the boogie man he is a human

Who cares

[delicate grotto]

Watched his response. Appreciated his video. I still don’t agree with him on most things but it’s rare to see a review channel admit to flawed reasoning.

[whole mural]

He’s a rage bait “video game reviewer”

He’s literally a clout goblin

[delicate grotto]

Lmao

[frail bloom]

I haven't even watched him for any part of my life but that feels a bit too far, sometimes dissapointment is a strong feeling

[cinder estuary]

I agree, but the amount of people who use his videos as a way to validated bad takes because of his sub count is anmouing

[silent surge]

i tend to pop in and out of discord
this time, i blame chips n dip

[frail bloom]

Yes, true

[silent surge]

can always ping me

[cinder estuary]

When he is a very mediocre player with very mediocre takes

[frail bloom]

I'm afraid to talk to Alex, I feel like an insect

[cinder estuary]

Allstin

[frail bloom]

I just wanna make sure they know what to improve on

Cuz I care a lot, y'know

[silent surge]

i do wish the riff in unchained predator popped out a bit more

[whole mural]

He’s a eternal glazer, the first 2 minutes of his first dark ages review was literally a squidward meme calling the dark ages level design repetitive

[frail bloom]

I wished the melody in divine retribution popped out more too

[cinder estuary]

The best tracks in TDA is either Into the Void or Apotheosis

The trashy riffs are godlike

[frank turtle]

ur mighty doom videos got me into this server, thank you 🫡

[frail bloom]

You think the ost can receive a patch update

[silent surge]

wooo nice thank you

[frank turtle]

rip mighty doom

[silent surge]

i miss that game
someone is remaking it to work again tho

[whole mural]

You under a rock?

[frail bloom]

Why what happened

[delicate grotto]

Really? That’s sick.

[whole mural]

Ohhhh

[frail bloom]

What is happening

[whole mural]

My fault, your talking about mighty doom

[whole mural]

I wasn’t talking about mighty doom

[cinder estuary]

It did.

[delicate grotto]

My personal favorites are “From The Ashes” and “Into the Void”

[frail bloom]

No I'm talking abt tda, but not ingame, the actual ost lol

[whole mural]

They did fix it

[frail bloom]

Just gain boost some of the melodies pls

[cinder estuary]

The forrest is super hard if you are trying to 100% it as well during UN

[whole mural]

Like 2 weeks ago

Even longer

[frail bloom]

NOOOOOOO not ingame, the actual tracks you listen too, some parts are too quiet

Like some melodies

That is smt the composers themselves have to go in and change

[whole mural]

They fixed that

[frail bloom]

There is a language barrier here.

[whole mural]

No there isn’t

[delicate grotto]

No, they mean the official mixes posted on Spotify and YouTube, by FinishingMove.

[frank turtle]

oh yeah that's a really good one

[whole mural]

You listening on 1 volume?

[delicate grotto]

Oh brother.

[frail bloom]

Yup.

Can't have nuanced discussion anymore

[whole mural]

Can’t hear anything wrong on Spotify

[delicate grotto]

There’s a melody that plays amongst another part of the song. @frail bloom wants someone to be able to isolate that melody and boost it, because it’s so good. You can hear it fine, but it is quiet in comparison to the rest of Divine Retribution. Works for the track, but I get wanting to hear part of a song more clearly. Especially when it’s that good.

[frank turtle]

so funny how the doom community checked act man when he made that tda review, I'm glad it was a good convo

[frail bloom]

My goat🙏

[delicate grotto]

Is Swallowed a track in TDA? I don’t think I’ve ever heard it lol. Unless you mean What Lies Below?

[whole mural]

Oh so there’s nothing wrong with the ost he just wants bonus tracks with certain melodies

Makes sense

[frail bloom]

No not bonus tracks, just raise the volume a bit, y'know

[delicate grotto]

Yeah pretty much. Sad we lost Koma. They were awesome at mixing Doom tracks. YouTube fucked it up.

[frail bloom]

For certain parts of the track

[frank turtle]

yeah that one can be a pain, I still the Barracks is the early game run killer

[whole mural]

What song

[frail bloom]

Divine retribution

It has a melody that is mick levels of awesome

But I can't hear it good

[delicate grotto]

Yep! That’s Lies Below, guess it’s an extended version. I didn’t know we had people remixing TDA’s tracks this well already. Damn, I’ve got to go check these out.

[whole mural]

I usually stop listening around steel beyond the grave so

[frail bloom]

Right.

[whole mural]

I hate that fucking level by the way

Fix the arm and shield

[frail bloom]

Alr, tomorrow imma compile a list of criticims, and say them in the most respectful manner

I'll say some positive stuff too

[delicate grotto]

The Harbor of Souls level? Very Doom 2016 esque. I love it personally. Wish it was harder though. Some arenas don’t fully utilize the amount of room given.

[whole mural]

Sad how eternals music sounds like dog water

[whole mural]

Yeah because the arm is messed up

[delicate grotto]

What arm? Lmao

Yeah that’s a fair comparison

Then again, Blood Swamps also reminded me of 2016 lol

[whole mural]

The arm holding the shield in my game isn’t holding the shield it’s like on the outside of it

[delicate grotto]

It’s funny, I was putting together a playlist of my favorite Doom songs and I found I had way more TDA tracks than both 2016 or Eternal lmao.

[whole mural]

The shield is not placed properly or something

[frank turtle]

what's your favorite track in TDA?

[delicate grotto]

Oh that’s really weird…

[whole mural]

It looks so bad and I dunno what’s wrong with it

[frail bloom]

Ophhhhh

[frail bloom]

Into the void, or infernal chasm

[whole mural]

The mixing is terrible

I can’t with eternals ost

[frail bloom]

I can't choose

They both have awesome melodies

Are y'all sensing a pattern here

[frank turtle]

let me check em out real quick cause I don't remember the names, just the music

[whole mural]

2016s intro is the best example of how bad eternals music is mixed, the intro to eternal sounds so bad

[frank turtle]

yeah holy shit infernal chasm is crazy

[frail bloom]

Well

That was record time

I guess you recognized it

[frank turtle]

I think into the void is my favorite

especially cause it's in my favorite level

[frail bloom]

They're interchangeable honestly

Then second is blood red

Blood red is just perfect

[delicate grotto]

People sleep on “From The Ashes” man. Goes hard.

[frail bloom]

Ok that's a bit too much glazing

[frail bloom]

From the Ashes is like my third

I just like the bells and angelic xhoir of blood red more

[frank turtle]

never too much glazing when it comes to doom

[frail bloom]

Hm

I guess

[frank turtle]

blood spill is fire too

[frail bloom]

I've said this before, but from the ashes is the cultist base of tda

[silent surge]

the riffiness is nice

[frail bloom]

With the drops and stuff

So much highs in the ost

And some annoying lows

[frank turtle]

fuck, did Romero play tda yet

I wonder if he likes the game

[frail bloom]

I think so?

[silent surge]

he did on his fps friday series

[frail bloom]

Don't remember his opinion but his gameplay is so stiff lol

All his actions are independent of eachother

[delicate grotto]

He did. He liked it. Appreciated the Devs for keeping the series going and thinks they’re doing some real cool stuff with it.

[cinder estuary]

Barracks doesn't have THE hardest encounter, but it has a BUNCH of hard encounters

It's really easy to fuck up and die on it

[silent surge]

barracks is cultist base

[frank turtle]

in my eyes, it throws alot at you for what your arsenal is like at that point in the game

[silent surge]

the early game screw you level

[frank turtle]

if that makes sense

[frank turtle]

that's awesome

[cinder estuary]

The impaler room with the 8 stone imps, the hell knight cramped room, the mancubus leader with the bunch of lost souls and the vagary

[silent surge]

that one aint bad tbh

[cinder estuary]

The hardest encounter in the game is in the hellbreaker level tho

[silent surge]

the hell knight circle, you can shield off the first one instantly. like ice bomb on the nekravol 2 tyrant

[cinder estuary]

The revenant gorenest

[silent surge]

in belly?

you can cheese that so bad.

[frank turtle]

even when I've played it enough to remember everything, it still feels like I'm barely coming out of the level alive

[cinder estuary]

No, hellbreaker.

[silent surge]

trying to think of which one. thats the short atlan level.

which encounter you mean

[cinder estuary]

SORRY, it's on the forsaken plains

Chapter 10

[silent surge]

ohh yea rev, whiplash.

with the rev as the big boi

[cinder estuary]

That encounter is the hardest in the game

You only have one cover and the arena is super small

[silent surge]

ill be playin that level next on my NM 100% no slo mo

[cinder estuary]

Good luck

[silent surge]

been awhile since i hit it

[cinder estuary]

Dont focus on the revenant until you kill the whiplash

Or else you get 2 whiplashes

[silent surge]

remember mars core ML?
That second marauder didnt spawn if you let the cyber manc live.
like that?

[cinder estuary]

Yep yep

Actually no

The second whiplash appears once the revenant is on half health IIRC

[silent surge]

whiplash maintain?

[cinder estuary]

So you have to kill the first one, or else you get 2

[cinder estuary]

A whiplash appears alongside the revenant. If you do enough damage to the revenant, a second one appears. So it's better to kill the whiplash first, then do the revenant, then the second whiplash, then finish the revenant

[silent surge]

ahh yea thats solid

[cinder estuary]

Also you gotta nuke the arachnotron BEFORE the second pinkie, because killing the pinkie summons the revenant

IIRC

For me that's the hardest encounter in the game, but forsaken plains as a whole is pretty alright

It has the agaddon hunter gorenest too, which is also pretty fucking hard

But if you properly order your kills, the agaddon hunter will be alone so it's p easy

[silent surge]

the belly one can be cheesed

[cinder estuary]

Not that agaddon rev one

The one on the spire

[silent surge]

draqu did it in his speedrun. you run off the ledge like youre gonna drop in the hole, then jump AFTER you fall, and you pop right back out.
This triggers the chaingunner enforcer you can kill, jump down the hole, fight the fight normally

[silent surge]

rev komodo?

[cinder estuary]

No, rev agaddon

Infinitely respawning revenants and one agaddon hunter defending a ruby

[cinder estuary]

That's the one with the buffer room, it has no agaddon iirc

That cheese is so clutch

[silent surge]

yea thats belly optional

[cinder estuary]

The spire agaddon is really annoying, but the rocket launcher makes it easier

[silent surge]

i keep thinking of the rev komodo fight there
when they spawn just fire rockets down that hall and lead the komodo back

[cinder estuary]

The rev komodo is p alright

The rev aggadon is super cramped

[silent surge]

cant remember where that is off the top of my head

but it sounds like an optional fight

[cinder estuary]

Its on one of the main areas of the spire, you go to the left to get a ruby, and then an aggadon hunter and a revenant spawn

It's near a cyberdemon and two tanks

[whole mural]

Yeah true. There are some things that are undoubtedly trash though, mainly the intro music is trash

I audibly said what the fuck when I booted the game up for the first time

2016 intro fire

Eternals trash

[frank turtle]

https://youtu.be/IFC_oc1yzO8?si=-8DLiYcqSblHyBI0

really cool video about the future of tda

[whole mural]

Yes

It’s terrible

Because mick never got to mix it

2016s music was made better

And mixed by the musician who made it

Dunno

There’s a lot of stuff that went wrong with eternals music

I think he was trying too hard

It’s decent

[solid nacelle]

Meathook is super repetitive

[whole mural]

Go listen to micks version of into Sandy’s city

It’s crazy how they rejected it for no reason

Eternal has kinda got a reputation for being the first doom game most “newgens” have played

[frank turtle]

true

[whole mural]

A lot of people complaining about dark ages are the ones who glazed the eternal super shotgun and weapon spam

The 3 classics will always be the best

Technically 4 classics but yeah

Hell no

1: Doom 64
2: doom 1993
3: dark ages
4: doom 2016
5: doom 2

Final doom

Technically it was a stand alone game

So you could play doom 1, then doom 2 and then final doom

Eternal only because they got Andrew and David to do the dlc music after mick told Bethesda to shove it

Brutal doom 64 and doom 64 ce are great

Doom 64 ce adds 3 more episodes and tons more content

I haven’t really played any PC games from the 2000-2010 era

No I like them just not as much at the others

If you made me pick between them I won’t be choosing eternal or 3 though

[dreamy vine]

that’s an interesting ranking tho, I approve

[frank turtle]

yeah it annoys me ngl

[whole mural]

Eternal does look like it’s made by the Fortnite team with how it looks

Looks extremely cartoonish

[dreamy vine]

Hulacuja, but yours is interesting as well

It’s just nice to see some Doom 64 love

[whole mural]

The visuals in 2016 look so much better it’s laughable

[whole mural]

I have a Nintendo 64 with a doom 64 cartridge

[dreamy vine]

That’s awesome

2016 is amazing but it also blends a lot with its levels, specifically the non hell levels, the hell levels are awesome though and far more distinct

TDA is just extraordinary

[split gate]

Truest statement ever

[dreamy vine]

Mfs be putting it lowest and haven’t even played it

[split gate]

I know opinions are opinions but I truly believe id has objectively not released a bad DOOM game

[whole mural]

I like how people say the doom 64 soundtrack is trash, it’s supposed to Be dark ambient because the whole Game is far more darker and hellish compared to doom 1 + 2. The 64 soundtrack fits the environment perfectly

[dreamy vine]

I don’t care for the Doom 64 soundtrack unless I’m playing the game where it works extremely well so it isn’t really a con for me

[whole mural]

And I don’t care what anyone says, 64 has the best level design ever

[split gate]

Oh shit we’re ranking Doom osts let me cook

[whole mural]

Go ahead

There isn’t a single level in 64 that looks or plays remotely the same

My fault

[silent surge]

100%ed forsaken plains on this NM run. yeah those 2 encounters are dicey

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-teamfortress2-tf2spy-gentlemen-gif-17929043

Wus poppin

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If we take into account the levels and the environment here’s a list

Doom 64
2016
Doom 1
Doom 2
Dark ages
Doom 3
Eternal

Doom 2 was very inconsistent

[dreamy vine]

Only got stuck once it was during a yellow keycard puzzle but other than that I knew exactly where to go so it was always intriguing to me

[whole mural]

Extermination day is also designed extremely well

[dreamy vine]

The shifting of the map was also just really cool

[whole mural]

Oh yeah, Sunlust also has a great level design

[dreamy vine]

I even liked the secret levels along with the extra episode

It’s a game where I was never bored, I enjoyed it all the way through and that’s why I adore it, it’s got some insanely well done atmosphere for the time as well

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I was mainly saying the music part

[split gate]

New Doom Trilogy Music Ranking:

1. 2016 - I believe Mick Gordon encapsulated the definition of a perfect ost for a video game. It sounded so refreshing and unique, 2016’s ost was made from working around the limitations set, which history shows leads to revolutionary results.
2. TDA - Consistent in its quality throughout the tracks, FM did a stellar job in capturing the atmosphere of TDA while still offering something new. They had the monumental task of following after Mick and they still cooked. Every track, for me, is a banger, and I like how when people talk about the ost, they have different favourites. Looking forward to how they handle the DLC
3. Eternal - Only a few standout tracks. Unfortunately given the situation, soundtrack quality consistency throughout the ost is very inconsistent. Mick still did a stellar job despite the environment he worked in and delivered on the highest of highs but the fact that we could’ve had a better ost if he was treated better, along with the shift to new composers, leaves a bitter taste for me. Meathook is repetitive unfortunately for me, I find the track annoying to listen to.

[whole mural]

If it’s level design itself it’s easily
Doom 64
2016/dark ages (both just as good as eachother)
Doom 1
Doom 3
Eternal
Doom 2

The last half of doom 2 is terrible

It’s more vertical in spots than horizontal

[split gate]

The only good part in its ost version was the ending with the choir

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I don’t think it’s mid, I think it’s just a song you jam too once then put it away for a while

[small tangle]

my left bumper will not th row my shield and keeps cycling with my crossbow on my ps5 edge

does anyone know how to fix it?

[hard thistle]

They’re all incredible! Unholy Siege is becoming my most favorite in Dark Ages, At Doom’s Gate remains my favorite of 2016, Gladiator is my favorite of Eternal’s base campaign, and of all The Ancient Gods, the Blood Swamps is arguably the best, right next to Immora.

[mystic barn]

If you use a stem separator, you might be able to isolate each individual instrument. It’s a matter of how good the stem separator is

[split gate]

Fair enough, I can see that bro 😎, there’s a lot of good parts FM didn’t put in the ost but I understand cause it’s hard to put everything in 4-6 min

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Also just mentioning it, Andrew hulshults brutal doom 64 remake is amazing

[split gate]

2016 captured raw anger and intensity that I believe I don’t see from the other osts. That’s why it’s my fave

[hard thistle]

The more I hear the ambient pieces too, Hebeth, Cosmic Sea and Onslaught of the Damned, I have truly grown to enjoy them! Atlan Battleground is some serious Pacific Rim beauty, Into The Void and What Lies Below are Cosmic Realm glory, and Battle on the Blackened Tide is gorgeous for too many reasons to list!

[hard thistle]

And that is a valid feeling, fam!

[split gate]

The more I play TDA, the better it gets, I enjoy the music more too, such a fantastic game

I don’t replay the missions, I just restart the whole campaign, the experience is amazing

[hard thistle]

Infernal Chasm feels like a glorious march through the burning abyss, and it’s fucking GORGEOUS!!

[split gate]

Yeah that’s fair bro, Atlan Battleground is a banger, they play a particular part of the ost when you fight in the room where you encounter the gold and shrine for the first time, and that part made me smile so much

[split gate]

The build up from the intro is the highlight for me, superb stuff

[hard thistle]

I think that’s the overall feeling for The Dark Ages. So many people were quick to dismiss the entire game, it’s gameplay loop, soundtrack and the fact it was just the campaign, as a failure, just because it wasn’t a repeat of 2016 or Eternal, and now look! More people are warming up to it, and rightfully so! It has a few issues sure, but as a whole, it’s fucking awesome! Easy GOTY!

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I said dark ages was better than eternal day 1

[split gate]

Yep, I think you have to play it a second time to really understand what id was saying with it

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Dark ages over eternal any day

[split gate]

Based af

[hard thistle]

I’ve never struggled to play 2016 or Eternal as much as I did after Dark Ages, because holy crap, the Shield Saw changes everything!

[split gate]

Once again, history repeats itself 😭

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This was after he made himself a clown

Well, more of a clown then usual

[hard thistle]

Yes he did! Thank you, Mayo and Midnight!

[split gate]

It’s my personal GOTY until I play Expedition 33 and Silksong, then we’ll see haha

But definitely GOTY contender for me

[whole mural]

I personally think expedition 33 is good but it’s also goonerbait especially with the mods I’ve been seeing pop up

[split gate]

Yep, it sounds like the Classics for me, I listen to the OG ost and wad osts from time to time, TDA’s ost is closer to it

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Like nier automata level of goonerbait

[split gate]

Eh, I like turnbased games and I’m a sucker for a fantastic story, that’s all I want tbh

[whole mural]

I didn’t say it was bad

Moist critical has a better explanation

[split gate]

Oh yeah bro, I’m just saying I’m not too concerned with that stuff

Based take

The Cosmic Realm osts was the chance for FM to really stand out. It was uncharted territory for the Doom franchise and for composers. Just like when Mick had to find a way for his music to stand out in 2016, FM was in a similar boat imo

And they absolutely did

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Theomachy

It’s got a extermination day ahh riff in it

[split gate]

Bingo, you nailed it on the head. Experimental and finding ways around the rules is what leads to true greatness imo

Eternal had new stuff for sure, but Mick was given more free reign. That can be great but limitations can push one to do more than freedom

[split gate]

Theomachy is goated

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Free reign? I thought he was being pressured almost the entire time and was repeatedly told some tracks weren’t good enough

[dreamy vine]

Yeah he was- even during eternal

[split gate]

Oh I mean in a creative standpoint like the hell choir

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Oh right

[split gate]

He was pressured but not in the way that was good

[split gate]

I think in Eternal it was worse, but don’t quote me on that, I might be wrong

[whole mural]

I hate that they didn’t use into Sandy’s city

What a L

https://youtu.be/IJDxvoAdAlA?si=LK6WbeFKPUs5x_T_

[split gate]

Yeah I get the reason they said but I don’t agree with it, it’s a perfect send off to the campaign

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@split gate

[split gate]

We already had E1M1 in the intro, we didn’t need it again 😭

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And a shit version of it on top

[split gate]

Oh I’ve seen this, it fits so well too ahhh

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Terrible mixing

[dreamy vine]

Rip and tear almost not making it into 2016 is insane

[split gate]

Yeah when I finished my first playthrough, I was disappointed they used the track from 2016 instead of something different

[whole mural]

2016s dooms gate was infinitely better than eternals

[split gate]

Bro I know 😭, the intro music feels off

[split gate]

2016’s Doom’s Gate is perfection

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Markipliers reaction to 2016s intro is fucking awsome

[split gate]

2016 still had the best intro imo, holy moly the aura

The music sync, so so perfect

The show don’t tell approach

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“Hi I’m angry as fuck, no I don’t need to say anything to let you know about it”

64s ending is amazing, I’m not locked in here with you, your locked in here with me ahh ending

[split gate]

Same, 2016’s cliffhanger sets up everything so well, I was disappointed we didn’t start immediately after that point in Eternal

2016 and TDA I believe were the better games because I feel id had something to prove

[dreamy vine]

2016s ending just doesn’t work for me now because well- Eternal just changes so much about Samuel

“I’m not the villain”

Oh- no- let’s just make him the seraphim

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https://youtu.be/IJDxvoAdAlA?si=LK6WbeFKPUs5x_T_

[dreamy vine]

Actually- is it fair me to criticise 2016s ending because of the faults of eternal specifically?

I guess not

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Way way way way better

[split gate]

I like the pictures of the developers tho but man I miss 2016’s credits

[split gate]

I tend to view it as it was intended when they made it, not what happens afterwards

Yeah it’s on the same boat

[dreamy vine]

Ah, well in that case overall I really like it

[split gate]

Same, as a separate thing, it is an amazing ending

As much as I like the lore, I’m just a little disappointed with the direction they went, like with Samuel Hayden being the Seraphim

I kind of wanted him to be this robot guy with his own agenda and that’s it, an overarching antagonist

[delicate grotto]

I really liked his character in 2016. I really hated his character in TAG.

[split gate]

Oh yeah true true

[dreamy vine]

The only compliment I’ll give you the twist is that his design as the seraphim is my favourite demon design and the boss is incredible, at least imo, and within the eternal lore it does at least have some build up for it

I still just don’t see the point why the seraphim even had to be a twist

[split gate]

I like the idea of a robot being one step ahead of everyone, even Doomguy and the demons

I’m actually not sure anymore bro, but given the UAC was hiding the existence of the Seraphim, it’s codex entries were possibly fabricated

[dreamy vine]

Yeah that’s the thing that annoys me is that you can actually make sense of it

I just don’t really like it regardless

[split gate]

They did their research haha

[dreamy vine]

It’s funny that if they ever decide to continue on from eternals ending, he’s literally the only threat left

[delicate grotto]

He fabricated his background and wiped his memories, or his memories were affected by the transformation he took on. Don’t remember the specifics implied.

[split gate]

It would be a good send off ngl, have the two duke it off for one last time

Doom began due to humanity’s curiosity of hell, defeating Samuel Hayden is the perfect conclusion imo

[dreamy vine]

I would be extremely hype, I won’t deny

[frank turtle]

I deadass just got lauched and fell through the map on siege pt 1

[keen vortex]

Fsr in this game is so badly implemeted

frame generation doesnt seem to work

[frank turtle]

gonna upload it

[split gate]

I clipped through the ground during Level 18 and Level 10

[frank turtle]

#screenshots

gotta restart the whole level now

[dreamy vine]

Dude that was some Wile Coyote type shit

He would in fact talk shit in the most professional way before and after killing him

[split gate]

He can defeat the forces of hell but not the thirst for human power and rule type ending

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I didn’t think Samuel was capable of doing anything, he locked himself in his office the entire game, Timmy toughknuckles

[split gate]

He was just holding back his aura bro, he saved it until the end

[whole mural]

Depending on what Samuel’s endoskeleton is made of a imp fireball could just melt it on contact

[split gate]

True true, however, in TDA, I do find it curious why ||Doomguy didn’t kill Ahzrak immediately after taking out the heart of argent||

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He probably didn’t want his hands covered in blood

[split gate]

That’s the Samuel Hayden I miss man, cold and calculated type shit with hidden agendas

[whole mural]

There’s videos of chimpanzees casually breaking bones of other monkeys they are eating, doomguy would literally just bend Samuel’s arms and legs into a pretzel if he wasn’t tethered

[split gate]

Fuuu

It was only a little bit but aight

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Only at the end he might have

[oblique raft]

Do u guys think 5070 a good GPU for gaming

[split gate]

“I am not the villain in this story.” 🔥

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Depends if the praetor suit is strong enough to stop the crucible blade and then there’s the fact his skin is stronger than the suit

I mean the Vega core explosion might have been hotter and stronger than the blade

[split gate]

I think you can try going to the tech chat bro, you’ll get more help there

[whole mural]

I’ve seen it mentioned a few times

[split gate]

What’s everyone’s ranking for the menu theme btw? I think TDA, 2016 and Eternal

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Lore videos and stuff

Mainly midnight if you know him

Pretty sure that’s where I heard it

[pliant sonnet]

it is my bday my dudes, can someone gift me a real dreadmace?

[whole mural]

Dark ages menu music is tuff

[split gate]

Happy birthday bro, but you’ll have to go to the Cosmic Realm for that one

[pliant sonnet]

tyty, well, that should be fun anyways

[split gate]

Personally it’s my favourite

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I mean ahzrak did hit the slayer with his own helmet and the helmet took more damage than he did so

Pretty sure it was the explosion itself that did it

[weary current]

so apparently, Act Man doesn't think TDA is disappointing anymore, lol

[frank turtle]

lol

[split gate]

As he should 🗣️🗣️🗣️

Jokes aside, I’m glad he gave it another try

You enjoy it more the second playthrough imo

[split gate]

And of course the comments are stupid as always, I have to be reminded there’s no brain usage for Youtube commenters

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He got called out for being a clown so

[weary current]

by who, what the fuck even happened

all i saw was that hugo talked to him or smth

[whole mural]

Act man made the first video and everyone called him a clown

Then he made the second one

His first dark ages “review” literally started with a squidward meme

He tried to say that dark ages level design was repetitive and everyone wasn’t happy

[half plaza]

if you look closely at his model he had some blood on him

[spare panther]

Does the music in the cutscenes ever sound really low quality for anyone else? i mostly notice on the one at the start of harbor of souls

[split gate]

Yep and while the comments this time are generally happy, there are still some people who double down and say the game is shit and he shouldn’t have given in, he really can’t please anyone

But commend the guy for being more reasonable and still having his own disagreements

[shy hull]

Alright I think I've adjusted to the new difficulty now. Not too bad actually
(I should keep my mouth shut lest Hugo decides to push more hidden patches lol)

[whole mural]

The people doubling down are the eternal Newgens

[split gate]

Yep they’re the little bros

2016 being a fav is so based tho

Majority moved on from 2016 since Eternal came out

Tbh, we needed a game like TDA, not specifically like the direction it went towards but how games can be different from the other and still be just as fun while understanding what Doom is about

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Doom is doom. Just because they removed the meat hook doesn’t mean dark ages is bad. Also the dark ages ssg is 100x better than eternals

[stoic forge]

Help I’m stuck please

[split gate]

Fr fr

[stoic forge]

I just barely got the last mace

[split gate]

What do you need bro

[stoic forge]

And in the next room I throw my shield into a blue switch to activate the elevator

But the door at the top of the elevator doesn’t open.

I don’t see a way to backtrack

What am I missing?

[split gate]

Ah if you face backwards when you’re on the elevator and your at the top, there is a climbing section

[split gate]

You need to do the shield throw eye target thing you did before

[stoic forge]

Short climb to empty platform

[split gate]

There should be an eye thing you need to aim with your shield with on the platform, like what you did before when you saw the Cosmic Baron for the first time

The sound design for Eternal was a downgrade from 2016 imo

[whole mural]

It’s just a faster movement to a glory kill and armour. It feels so weak too

[split gate]

The combat shotgun sounds weak af

[stoic forge]

I looked for one briefly but it’s so nondescript I couldn’t see it. Thanks a ton!

[whole mural]

Dark ages ssg hits harder than 2016s double tap

[split gate]

All good bro, happy dooming

The combat shotgun in 2016 sounds crispy af

[dapper lark]

The rotating shotgun you get as the mech is super satisfying

[whole mural]

Brutal doom and doom 64 ce both give the doom 64 shotgun and super shotgun reloads

Doom 64 ce runs off the actual doom 64 Iwad

[dapper lark]

I always wanted to play brutal doom

[whole mural]

Now that doom 1, 2 and final doom are all 1 game on steam it’s a good investment

Moddb is the site where I get doom mods

[dreamy vine]

ive played it, extremely overhated in my opinion, i had a blast and i can enjoy both it and classic doom as well

[whole mural]

It’s very good

[dapper lark]

I've watched gameplay,it looks really fun

[whole mural]

You get the familiarity of the normal doom maps with completely different gameplay

[dreamy vine]

heck most issues i do have with brutal doom is stuff you can just change within the options

[whole mural]

Most of it is just cosmetic

I appreciate the bfg aiming one

Yes I want to shoot it where I want not where auto-aim sends it

I turn auto-aim completely off

[dreamy vine]

the ancient type of enemies is something i just turn off, they dont fit at all and im just not a fan of the designs, along with auto aim of course but yeah

[whole mural]

There’s a new brutal doom build too of you didn’t know

[dreamy vine]

other than that i approve

[whole mural]

V22 alpha

[dreamy vine]

oh real? ill check rn

[whole mural]

Ye

It’s beautiful

It’s been out for a little while

[stoic forge]

Is there any reason to use the Accelerator after getting the Cycler?

[whole mural]

Sounds better and has better upgrade