the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

For emojis

[heady agate]

yeah I suggest we stay clear out of inappropriate stuff, even as a joke

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-dragon-kiss-of-death-gif-665127283724753487 good kiss

[pine terrace]

As said here

[heady agate]

understood 🫡

[pine terrace]

We have to be hardasses about this because it invited people to take it too far, and it ruins it for everyone else

Also there’s kids

[frail bloom]

🖐️

Yes I am an infant

[heady agate]

kids? in my doom server?

[frail bloom]

Compared to you ancient fossils

Lol

[hollow sandal]

@pine terrace are we at a cap for emoji? Any chance we can get more, such as azhrak?

[meager vortex]

hey guys next day im order doom slayer figure eternal version

[pine terrace]

I don’t have an answer to that currently. I’m at work and do not have access to anything emoji related

[hollow sandal]

Ok gotcha

[meager vortex]

and next month my payday comes i wiil order this

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-title-collector's-edition-gif-16793651776385319022

[heady agate]

up to 2 days early access is gonna be crazy

[frail bloom]

I know this is heresy, but...

[harsh egret]

new hugo vid? b-b-but i thought he was on vacation

[frail bloom]

What if doom had lyrics

[harsh egret]

huh

[frail bloom]

WAIT WHERE

[harsh egret]

idk i see it on twitter

[frail bloom]

Think abt it

[harsh egret]

art of slaying ep

[frail bloom]

Can you post it here please

[harsh egret]

about the atlan cockpit concept art

https://x.com/DOOM/status/1935706823912296634

DOOM (@DOOM)

In this ninth episode of “The Art of Slaying,” Hugo talks us through concept art of the Atlan Cockpit.

(art by Olympia Sweetman)

X · Jun 19, 2025, 2:30 PM

[frail bloom]

Uh may you post the vid

Without the link

Parental controls and all of that

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-24107071

[frail bloom]

I know I know

I'm a wittle baby

[harsh egret]

#videos

i heckin love tapered shapes

[hollow sandal]

Truncated, if you would ☝️🤓

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerdge-gif-23738139

[young stratus]

Hello, I jusst installed the game and was wondering if enhanced targetting is good setting to use

[full barn]

wtf does enhanced targetting even do lmao

im guessing its aimbot

use it if this is youre 1st fps ig

[young stratus]

description says it reduces the accuracy required for your shots

[mint bridge]

[graceful lion]

https://fixupx.com/DOOM/status/1935706823912296634

DOOM (@DOOM)

In this ninth episode of “The Art of Slaying,” Hugo talks us through concept art of the Atlan Cockpit.
︀︀
︀︀(art by Olympia Sweetman)

**💬 9 🔁 53 ❤️ 397 👁️ 7.4K **

▶ Play video

FixupX · Jun 19, 2025, 2:30 PM

[frail bloom]

Ngl if Hugo says tapered shapes one more time imma do smt

[young stratus]

dark ages has so many difficulty options

[delicate grotto]

Sick. Love hearing about the development process. Especially on the art side of things.

[young stratus]

i am goingto start in ultra violence but i wonder if aiming is hard in this game

int he original doom,n aiming wasnt really a problem

[wheat lotus]

start HMP

[delicate grotto]

Nah, enemy hitboxes are pretty forgiving to allow for faster gameplay. You don’t have to be super precise.

[wheat lotus]

are you used to playing eternal or 2016? if it's one of those, aiming will start hard because the game is pretty slow in comparison

[young stratus]

my first experience of doom was on PSX. the soundtrack there was the best

[wheat lotus]

but you get used to it

[willow beacon]

Some people are good at fps games and should start on high difficulties, I think starting on UV then changing the difficulty if needed is a much better idea!

[wheat lotus]

it's like cheating

[young stratus]

i did play doom 2016 but didnt enjoy it much compared to old dooms

[delicate grotto]

This game is faster than 2016 in my experience, though I play on 120% game speed NM.

[willow beacon]

?

[wheat lotus]

you get the UV achievments in HMP difficulty

[delicate grotto]

Rivals Eternal’s speed in some ways.

[young stratus]

the thing i miss the more from old dooms is monster infighting, when you could get demons to fight each other

[wheat lotus]

that's fun

[delicate grotto]

If you like the classics a ton, this’ll probably be your favorite out of the modern Dooms.

[wheat lotus]

except for the caco

[willow beacon]

Well this person isn’t trying to just get the achievements, they want to have fun playing the game, so they should try to play a difficulty that is fun not just the one that’s optimal for getting achievements

[young stratus]

I remmber the fear of ùmeeting cyberdemon in babel

[wheat lotus]

it's true

[delicate grotto]

Sadly that’s not in this game. Mainly due to gameplay purposes. Devs don’t want you to cheese fights since AI works much differently than that of their classic counterparts.

[wheat lotus]

also, since the super shotgun damage was lowered, it's not that fun to play at 100% demon damage.

[delicate grotto]

I do miss the red meatball.

Hybrid Cacodemon is sick though

[wheat lotus]

maybe they'll bring it back in the DLC?

[willow beacon]

Do you use higher or lower?

[wheat lotus]

125 for fun

[willow beacon]

75 is what I’ve found to be the best, they just die too quickly otherwise

[delicate grotto]

I like how they took the 2 most iconic classic demons and morphed them into cosmic amalgamations. It’s a neat twist.

[wheat lotus]

before the update, 100

[willow beacon]

Ah ok, it is pretty fun to just run over everything in your path!

[delicate grotto]

Doubt it. I could see the 64 Pain Elemental making a return though.

[wheat lotus]

it would be sick if we saw the UAC in the dlc

maybe making an expedition to hell?

[delicate grotto]

Been thinking of trying this. SSG is just too strong.

[foggy breach]

probably not but maybe mentions or something related to the classic UAC

[wheat lotus]

not anymore.

[delicate grotto]

They barely nerfed it.

[wheat lotus]

feels very nerfed to me

[delicate grotto]

I can still stagger HKs and Arachnotrons in one shot. Obliterate Mancs in 2.

[mental grotto]

I’ll second this, been playing on 75% damage, 300% demon damage, max projectile speed and smallest parry window. Getting my ass handed to me but it feels like a good challenge

[delicate grotto]

Nearly done with my Pandemonium run. Gonna try out that damage decrease on a different save when I get the chance.

[wheat lotus]

try that in UN.

[mental grotto]

Yeahhhh I’m good 💀

[wheat lotus]

It's the same

[mental grotto]

I still die a good amount of times each fight before getting the hang of it. Need some practice, although my first UN run will probably just be default settings

[wheat lotus]

I tried that

only made it to the end of the village

didn't finish it though

[wheat lotus]

killed by a zombie, then rage quit

[mental grotto]

After this modified run I’m fairly confident I can pull off UN. Gonna try pandemonium then start grinding I think

[wheat lotus]

I want to try pandemonium

[mental grotto]

Although I hope playing with faster projectile speed and smaller parry window didn’t fuck my muscle memory

[wheat lotus]

UN and your settings are basically the same

time to try pandemonium

[mental grotto]

If anything I’ll leave the damage values alone and just change the projectile and parry window to how I’ve had it. Way I see it, no use making UN harder than it already is. I won’t make it easier, but won’t make it too much harder either

[willow beacon]

Sounds fun, I just did a run with max slider except for normal damage ones, doing a real max slider now and it’s TOUGH

Normal nightmare settings btw

[mental grotto]

I haven’t touched game speed yet, every vid I see of it makes the game feel so fuckin jank

[willow beacon]

I love it, game felt too slow before I changed it now it feels amazing

[mental grotto]

Maybe I’ll give it a try at some point

[wheat lotus]

tried 150% game speed. awful.

[mental grotto]

500% damage seems ridiculous lol, I’m at 300% and everything damn near one-shots me anyways

[wheat lotus]

better beat Super Gore Nest Master now.

[mental grotto]

See that’s kinda how I expect to feel about it. The game was designed to be played at a steady momentum, not technically as fast as eternal but the pacing works with this game. Cranking up game speed seems like a cheap way to add artificial difficulty. No hate to those who enjoy it of course, I’m glad it’s an option because it gives us more ways to play, just personally not really a fan

[wheat lotus]

pandemonium later.

[mental grotto]

I still never beat UN on eternal with my 400 hours… I think I have a save file up to nekravol

Someday the motivation will come. It’s like 40% skill 60% managing the nerves atp

[frail bloom]

When I play cultist base on nightmare normally, I tear through the first big arena. Ultra Nightmare and I choke to a gargoyle

Otherwise pb rocket go brrrr

[wheat lotus]

I only beat it in HMP and managed to beat classic mode super gore nest master yesterday.

[mental grotto]

I’ve beat all the master levels on nightmare, beat the campaign/dlc countless times on nightmare with only a handful of deaths, but again UN just gets me with the nerves

[hollow sandal]

Me neither 200 hours

[mental grotto]

That little voice in the back of my head saying “if you die now ur campaign’s fucked” lmao

[wheat lotus]

that's one way to make me fell tiny...

[wheat sigil]

eternal had pb rocket tda has impaler rocket

[mental grotto]

Sorry broski, that wasn’t the intent 😅

[frail bloom]

I don't play on 150% so quickswitching is kinda un optimal for me

[wheat sigil]

quick swapping is very much optimal on normal speed too

not always, but it isn't always good on 150% either

[wheat lotus]

I have never used quickswap

[hollow sandal]

Based

[wheat lotus]

never knew it existed until 3 months ago

[frail bloom]

But it's slower? Why not just base fire

[wheat lotus]

I always ignored tips

[wheat sigil]

higher dps with quick swaps

[dawn vault]

Personally I play blindfolded in a sensory deprivation tank

[frail bloom]

Again, you play on 150%, I can just base fire my impaler and that's faster than a swap

I'm on 100%

[wheat lotus]

an 8 button mouse is good for that

because of spam button for impaler

[wheat sigil]

dude, everything scales with the speed increase, not just swap speeds lmao, reload times too
if it's higher dps on 150%, it's higher dps on 100%

[delicate grotto]

120% is about as far as you can push it before things start to feel janky. I like leaving it on that setting. Feels natural.

[wheat sigil]

impaler+ssg in close range is wild

[frail bloom]

Ok but I have to shield bash to do mine, it's much clunkier on normal speed, while you can switch normally

[wheat lotus]

it's awesome

[frail bloom]

It's slower, it just is

[wheat lotus]

if only we still had meathook...

[frail bloom]

Show me on 100% and I'll consider it

[wheat sigil]

you can simply hold down block button and melee for fast swap effect, and that's what i do too

[frail bloom]

Show me on 100% speed then

Not 150%

[wheat lotus]

any tips for SGN UV?

[frail bloom]

Why the pregnant emoji

[wheat sigil]

#the-dark-ages message

[wheat sigil]

you might wanna go in the eternal chat for that lol

[wheat lotus]

did not see that

[hollow sandal]

Combat shotgun is sick bro

[wheat lotus]

only works for me with the burst thing

[hollow sandal]

Fair, I like all the upgrades

[wheat sigil]

i'd say smelt or whatever it's called is better, but burst more fun

[hollow sandal]

Mhm more armor from fodderdaemon

[frail bloom]

I can't play the vid, it shows the poop thing

[remote thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372056310123859998/1373410275838918656/qstrigger2.mp4?ex=6855283e&is=6853d6be&hm=c573029f25d4ffdb20ea001a542f18671e6b8f28fa1e20665b22b1238225ab01&

[fair gull]

I hope they add an endless mode soon. I want to kill demons but I dont want to have to replay levels to do it

[proud cloud]

Wdym endless mode

[honest vortex]

Sometimes I swear you're a clone of me lol

[fair gull]

You know cybergrind from ultrakill? Kinda like that.
Just endless waves of demons to kill

[proud cloud]

Ohh that'll be cool

[frail bloom]

Isn't the base fire of the impaler faster?

[honest vortex]

That's fair , just didn't know if people took choking memes too far as well, which was I was hesitant to post the Act Man thing

[frail bloom]

I can just keep dealing damage with the empowered shot

Instead of switching uncomfortably between 2 weapons on a console with some arbitrary thing

What about moving while doing that?

[delicate grotto]

Lmao

[frail bloom]

Why don't you just stun with your shield saw

[honest vortex]

Also if you prefer Classic Quake's Gothic Eldritch stuff over Doom's general stuff, you'll like Dark Ages the most

[frail bloom]

It's not that type of game anymore

[wheat sigil]

you can quick swap and stun🙂

[frail bloom]

On console, it's arbitrary

[wheat sigil]

like i said, it's not always better to quick swap, but it is a very strong option

[frail bloom]

I can shieod saw throw, impaler, rinse repeat and it murders every heavy

It's like quickswitching

[wheat sigil]

??
wdym it's "arbitrary"?

[honest vortex]

Tbh IDK why I said Classic Quake.

I meant Quake in general lol

[delicate grotto]

For sure. I feel TDA has a good mix between the two. Hell levels and Cosmic realm levels are top tier in terms of design and aesthetics.

[wheat sigil]

yeah, and sometimes you can do some quick switching for even higher dps

[frail bloom]

Because the base fire of the impaler is faster and it deals similar damage, it's also easier to move around with and use your shield saw in tandemn, this just looks clunky

[wheat sigil]

impaler+ssg does go brr

[frail bloom]

I want to quickswitch but it's no where near as fast as eternal, so I simply drop it

[honest vortex]

Actually I guess I did have a point on accident.

Quake 1 was the main game that focused on the Gothic Eldritch stuff.

2 and 3 went more Sci-Fi

[frail bloom]

It just feels bad on console already but I'll practice with it if I can get it down

[wheat sigil]

not particularly hard

[honest vortex]

Yeah it feels like a love letter to iD Software in general.

Like they combined the best elements of every critically acclaimed iD Software game.

[frail bloom]

How do you know, you play on console?

For eternal it's easy cuz it's always there but I have to do two things and then constantly switch while using my shield

[wheat sigil]

i know it's easy because compared to a lot of eternal swaps, it is very easy
and i have done advanced tech on console in eternal

[frail bloom]

Alr but while moving? And blocking?

[wheat sigil]

hold down block and punch/shield bash?

[frail bloom]

Ye like why do that

[honest vortex]

He might be comparing it to punch swaps in difficulty

He might be calling punch swaps harder than TDA's swap tech on controller

[frail bloom]

Idc about punch swaps I'm talking abt base quickswitching

[honest vortex]

O

[frail bloom]

I can't do punchswaps on a controller dude

[wheat sigil]

you can also just take a spray weapon and hold shoot, especially good with the heat blast gun (forgor its name) so you can charge it up

you don't need to swap to maintain fast state

[frail bloom]

Can you like showcase this in combat bc standing still and doing it is just not enough

[wheat sigil]

i can showcase it in the one terrible gameplay clip i actually have lmao
https://youtu.be/JaoHV1FOi1M?si=a9fBVJ5_9VX0ALdd

[frail bloom]

How does it work with your shieod and melee while moving too

[wheat sigil]

wait let me find a sylar video, much higher quality

https://youtu.be/ajuX0LHSm7M?si=rUU9h5CR5qhGuUTG

[honest vortex]

The Halo needler shard color setting on the projectiles though

I dig it

[frail bloom]

Hmmm

I'm convinced, I need some practice for that tho, it's harder to do on console

They can expand on this for the next game lol

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/school-time-to-learn-adventure-time-library-gif-4472291

[frail bloom]

Would be pretry complicated tho

[frail bloom]

On console?? It felt bad

[wheat sigil]

felt really good when i learnt it, better than on pc i'd say

[frail bloom]

Yall a bunch of aliens

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-says-do-you-work-getting-slap-you-were-getting-slapped-battle-for-dream-island-battle-for-dream-island-again-gif-26859369

[wheat sigil]

it can become kinda awkward when you wanna move around though, yeah

you just gotta get the feeling for it down

[frail bloom]

I'm happy where I'm at

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/wings-spread-open-wings-doom-e3-e32019-gif-14310959

[frail bloom]

Looks real fun tho, that vid

I still play on 100% tho

[honest vortex]

Is this what we look like to you?

[frail bloom]

I might bump it up to 110%

[wheat sigil]

i'm not happy where i am yet in tda or eternal lol

[honest vortex]

For me definitely not in TDA

I feel like I have SO MUCH more to learn

[frail bloom]

Well I'm pretty satisfied with eternal but in tda I'm learning timing and enemy ai still

[honest vortex]

In Eternal, I felt like I did everything there is to do

[frail bloom]

Next game about to be eternal and tda in one big ball of mechanics

We get our meathook at some point

Relic of our past

[honest vortex]

I can't tell if I'd like that or not

[frail bloom]

Imagine meathooking up in the air and then shieldbashing downwards

[wheat sigil]

maybe i'll be satisfied with eternal if i manage to get as good as like sylar at some point, but still probably not lol

[honest vortex]

Funny enough I still feel like I have a LOT to learn in 2016.

Every time I replay it, I still find new combos, rapid shoot/melee usage, new ways for Holo Swap tech usage, and even more ways to manipulate the lock on burst with singular rockets and rhythmic melee chains to manipulate the pattern, speed, and reusing of LOB.

[honest vortex]

I mean you can already kinda do that with the Chaingun energy shield mod

[frail bloom]

No shieldbashing is a really fast dash that causes a shockwave

[honest vortex]

Combine it with bulldozing and it's way more busted than TDA's shield. Which is saying something

[frail bloom]

Different things

[honest vortex]

I know. I was just being facetious.

[frail bloom]

It would be cool tho c'mon

[honest vortex]

I think the Energy Shield Chaingun is bland AF anyway.

I love the shield saw significantly more

[frail bloom]

Especially for platforming

Meathook point, shieldbash through ring

So much they can do

[wheat sigil]

something like this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527578891944006/1319945574484545597/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_9.mp4?ex=68551c9c&is=6853cb1c&hm=3c35a849e3d942716f035c386bc095e98ceb3be64ba648492d03a5e7af26ed1d&

no clue why that happened lmao

[frail bloom]

No you swing up in the air with your ssg, switch to any different weapon to activate your shield and bash downwards

Because meathook occupies the same space as your shield blokc so you would have to go offensive with your ssg

[wheat sigil]

shield dashing

[frail bloom]

And that would also be a good trade off too

Bc ssg is really strong

[honest vortex]

Wave shielding.

Super Smash Bros Melee or Tekken Mishima style

[wheat sigil]

what

[young stratus]

why do you think that the game struggled with sales?

[frail bloom]

It didn't, it sold a million, multiply that by 70

Actually, mulitply 70% by 70

30% by 80

[young stratus]

it just feels that these days for some reason famous games being sold for a million is seen as bad

[frail bloom]

They have more than enough

[hollow sandal]

You can wave dash in TDA? 😭

[torpid crane]

80 bucks+ for base edition in most places
on gamepass so people don't need to buy it

[frail bloom]

It sold a million

Times 80

[torpid crane]

yeah thats not great

[frail bloom]

How?

[torpid crane]

all the costs

[frail bloom]

How much do you think the game costed

Plus marketing

[torpid crane]

a lot more than whatever number youre thinking of

[frail bloom]

So a million times 80, plus whatever bonus microsoft gave them for putting it on gamepass

[torpid crane]

dead space remake sold 1 mil and didn't even make profit

[dark thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-fighting-smiling-friends-no-fight-stop-it-stop-arguing-gif-8713281799291953889

[frail bloom]

How much was the deadspace remake

[torpid crane]

60

or wait maybe 70

did we have 70 buck games in 23?

[frail bloom]

So what is it

Because you're forgetting abt collecter edition and premium edition

That's like 30% too

[torpid crane]

70

[frail bloom]

10-30 bucks makes a difference

And the collecters is like 200

[torpid crane]

according to ea it didn't make any good profit

[frail bloom]

Ok but what was the budget of the game

[torpid crane]

not public knowledge

[frail bloom]

So ea's source is trust me bro

C'mon man

[torpid crane]

your source for something being a success is the same

why would a company say they failed if they didnt

[frail bloom]

Ye sure I can see that

But why did you come here saying it was a failure then

If you don't really know either

[torpid crane]

bc they said it was

[frail bloom]

But they offer no comparison

[torpid crane]

and the people who made it saying it was has more credence than random people

[frail bloom]

Alr but doesn't ID get anything for putting tda on gamepass

They surely get something

[torpid crane]

no

owned by ms
that's only for not ms owned studios

[frail bloom]

Hm

[torpid crane]

hell even studios who put shit on gamepass say its usually a mistake
look it up, theres a million articles about it

[frail bloom]

Ok I did some calculations leveraging standard edition prices and premium and collectors and I got 88 million

[languid kettle]

Just beat doom the dark ages

[frail bloom]

Isn't dark ages on sale too if you have gamepass? It's 60 if you have gamepass

They seem pretty confident lowering the price already

[torpid crane]

lowering the price early normally means one of two things

1. something did insanely well
   like 20+ mil sales
2. it did bad and they haven't made back costs yet

[last plover]

Anyone use hall effect sticks i can't seem to get sensitivity right just to twitchy any advice

[frail bloom]

I just did calculations and I reached 88 mil

Just by multiplying different values

Of just the raw prices

I assumed 70% was standard 70,20% was 90 to round it across the world, 19% was 100 and 1% was collectors

If you just multiply 70 times 1 mil you get 70 million, that is missing out on 18 million

Next Hugo stream, we ask him how much the game made lol

[delicate grotto]

He probably doesn’t have the numbers, and if he does he probably can’t share them.

[frail bloom]

Is it that big of a worry

They seem happy

[delicate grotto]

The game made back its costs.
Doom games always go on sale early. Eternal went on sale pretty quickly too. Although I wouldn’t doubt that TDA’s sales were hurt by Gamepass. As wonderful as it is, I don’t think a linear Singleplayer game belongs there day-1 if Microsoft is expecting high returns.

If I’m a casual player, see the game, download it, play it, like it. I’m not gonna go out of my way to own it. I’ve already experienced everything it has to offer.

And it’s a short enough game where you can get a couple playthroughs in to feel satisfied by the time you want to move onto a different game.

No hate to TDA btw. Love the game. Just looking at it from another perspective.

[frail bloom]

At least we're getting master levels, dlc, a hard parry mode hugo talked abt

And if we're lucky, a horde mode

[delicate grotto]

True. Lots of content updates to look forward to!

[frail bloom]

I'd say we get like 3/4 of what I said next summer

Excluding horde mode, I just don't know

[hollow sandal]

Hard parry mode? Like a lower point on the slider?

[frail bloom]

No even harder, perfect parry or you're done

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-issue-cross-impact-gif-27663424

[honest vortex]

Not actually calling out a skill issue. Just thought it was a funny GIF of wave dashing lol.

Though tbh idk what game is in this GIF

[twilit timber]

Beserker still broken on PS5 - did the playover and bought all upgrades at the end - still broken.

[fleet karma]

yo anyone know how to fix the problem where when you open the game and after the opening thing your screen is just black?

[proud cloud]

Is there any power ups in dtda like quad damage or berserk or haste?

[dreamy relic]

yes but theyre kinda underwhelming

mostly berserk

[proud cloud]

No quad damage or haste?

[dreamy relic]

i dont recall exactly

there might have been im not sure

[proud cloud]

Oh ok

[frail bloom]

I disagree, you get infinite ammo and much faster speed

It's not as cool tho ye

But my doomguy face changes to god mode so that's cool

[stoic forge]

I was just guessing lol. Glad it worked; I hate when technology breaks

[full barn]

anybody got that kreed maykr TRUE.. gif

[hollow sandal]

Yea lemme see dat gif

[dreamy relic]

Me personally I preferred the absolute carnage from 2016 and eternal

It felt exhilarating this just feels like a disappointment to me idk

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[silver bobcat]

Wait the game went on sale?

Goddammit

[graceful lion]

tda has berserk only iirc, u get infinite melee charges, infinite ammo, more speed, adn ur more resistant to damage

[graceful lion]

u can spam melee with berserk

[wheat lotus]

wich one?

[silver bobcat]

Tda

[wheat lotus]

when?

also, I need help

I can't find the last two ammo upgrades

nevermind

[warm comet]

Game updated and now my screen is just black all the time

https://tenor.com/view/cinema-gif-5935759059195122434

[frail bloom]

#artwork message
@harsh egret

[hollow sandal]

Thank you

[silent surge]

also gives infinite BFC ammo even if you are empty

[graceful lion]

imagine dropping in as a demon just to be vaporized by an incredible power surge

[unkempt dragon]

Hello Allstin

[frail bloom]

I am quite literally making my most favorite enemy roster

[silent surge]

hello there

[frail bloom]

I got like 6 doom 3 demons

Doom 3 is so good

Where's hato

He's busy again

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages felt more carnage to me personally

Shrugs

[frail bloom]

He means in terms of animation, 2016 was so brutal tearing demons apart

I do feel it was a missed oppurtunity to just go ham on the animations for beserk

For fodder, just punch em to death

Without a GK

[honest vortex]

Oh I see.

[frail bloom]

Vagary has to be my favorite enemy

It just is

Imp stalker in second

Uh and lost soul in third

Standard imp in fourth

Then agaddon hunter

[frank turtle]

I'm a big cosmic baron fan

[cerulean barn]

I got the game a few days ago. Hands down one of the best games I’ve ever played

[idle sleet]

Nightmare mode is a blast. This game is much more fun when it's sweaty

[idle sleet]

Agreed. It's a riot

[honest vortex]

Yeah. I can't decide if 2016 or Cosmic has my favorite Baron design in the franchise

[frail bloom]

Cosmic baron is the reason why I don't have classic baron

[honest vortex]

Hell yeah. My favorite game

[frail bloom]

But I still think the cosmic baron is very doom 3 coded

[cerulean barn]

Its one of the first ever games like that that ive played. Ive played other fps but nit as heavy as this

[idle sleet]

HEAVY.

[frank turtle]

exactly, it reminds me of some doom 3 cacodemon shit

[frail bloom]

Ye the folds on its face, no eyes

[idle sleet]

thunk thunk thunk thunk goes the Slayer

[frail bloom]

Honestly, either a pain elemental, or some doom 3 demons in dlc. Or both.

[idle sleet]

KABOOM - the sound he makes as he steps out of bed

[foggy breach]

still a missed opportunity to not bring back the Doom 3 Mancubus into TDA

[frail bloom]

I know right??

[honest vortex]

He's similar to the expansion enemies

[frail bloom]

Just slap some tentacles and we're set

[frail bloom]

Yes I like that about him but as a variant

Imagine if we had both ohhhh my god

[idle sleet]

So annoying with his acid vomit

[frail bloom]

Strictly on looks

[idle sleet]

just let me walk around bro. please bro. i promise this time i won't murder you bro

[foggy breach]

glue some tentacles to the face of the current model on the Mancubus and bam

[frail bloom]

Also, I dodge that stuff and he's accelerator bait

[hollow sandal]

Battle knight

[frail bloom]

NO

[hollow sandal]

Acolyte

[vital rapids]

Well that's annoying. Was looking for the way to a chest, couldn't find it. Enabled PT to have a play around with framegen, enjoyed, and as I exited I realised I just found the secret and ran past it. Cannot now find how I got there

[frail bloom]

Ew

[idle sleet]

ya, i just find myself losing track of where the vomit is and backing into it my mistake

[frail bloom]

Have you tried shield bashing outta it

[idle sleet]

"why can't I move? why are my legs melting?"

[foggy breach]

I love the Agaddon Hunters

[honest vortex]

Eh...not sure I see it.

Reminds me more of a Shambler

[hollow sandal]

Armored Arachnatron?

[frail bloom]

He's ok

[mental grotto]

New revenant design is so awesome

[vital rapids]

PT runs okish with FG, but the drop in base performance feels quite noticeable in combat tbh. Might just enable it when I'm enjoying the scenery

[idle sleet]

I have, but I need to get better at it. I'm still getting used to tracking/leaving some fodder on the field to always have an escape route / shield bash route

[frail bloom]

True but I've never been a big rev fan in general

I appreciate their existence

[foggy breach]

The Revenant came back in peak form like Doom 2

[idle sleet]

I've been just destroying everything.

[mental grotto]

Anyone notice that when a revenant spawns he has his arms across his chest in the coffin pose? It’s so sick

[idle sleet]

Strategic Fodder (TM) is a good thing

[hollow sandal]

With what weapons?

[idle sleet]

Anything I can get my hands on. CARNAGE.

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[hollow sandal]

I use everything consistently except shredda and the grenade launcha

[frank turtle]

how tall is doom slayer

[idle sleet]

Jokes aside. I mean I kind of just shield bash around the level a bit and pick off the strategic targets, and I think it's smarter to not be so mobile until you need to be, and being aware of where the fodder is (having NOT destroyed it) so you can directionally shield bash on demand

[hollow sandal]

8 think like 6'2"

[frank turtle]

damn ok thx

[idle sleet]

My preference on my nightmare run so far has been chainshot and the cycler

[hollow sandal]

Nice

[frail bloom]

I've heard 5 ft but he dwarfs other people like scientists so either humanity is really short or he is tall

I'd go with tall

[idle sleet]

Chainshot, with fully charge on parry upgrade, then get in close and ride the rhythm, while pinging a fully charged chainshot in between the beats. best way to dance with the Cyberdemon and hellknights etc

[frail bloom]

I accelerator them to death

[hollow sandal]

Yesirrrr

[frail bloom]

I figured out their timing so I just falter them lol

Like constantly

[hollow sandal]

Man I love this game

[frail bloom]

Once I'm satisfied with 100% speed, I go 10% more

Till I'm like M1

[hollow sandal]

:)

[frail bloom]

Then I'll be unstoppable

Then Hugo will kick my ass with some stupid master level

[idle sleet]

me too. loving it more and more the harder it gets. SWEAT, BABY. SWEAT!

[frail bloom]

With like 4 cacos in an arena

Genuinely a nightmare compared to four cacos in eternal

[hollow sandal]

Facts, he probably will do that 😭

[frail bloom]

I just want hugo back, I know he wants to go back too lol

He's already arguing in the comment section on youtube

[hollow sandal]

Hugo pleewaaase 😭

@frail bloom you watch his streams on teusdays?

[frail bloom]

All the time

[rocky badger]

Does anyone know if the Grenade Launcher can take advantage of the permanently staggered health/armor/weapon upgrade bosses? I tested most weapons with some surprising results but I'm still curious about this one.

[hollow sandal]

For the mastery? I can't remember what the task is

[honest vortex]

I love him a lot when he isn't being buggy.

Or did you mean design wise?

[honest vortex]

Wait what?

I never seen Hugo argue with fans lol

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message
It's light hearted

[honest vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-not-enough-tim-meadows-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-that's-not-sufficient-we-need-more-gif-7713257300381712988

[frail bloom]

He just wants to share all the details lol

[frail bloom]

You're not enough

👀

/j

[uneven mortar]

Any news on updates

[frail bloom]

Uh no

[uneven mortar]

:(

[frail bloom]

Waiting for hugo honestly

[uneven mortar]

I want to replay the game but only after it's undergone all the necessary balance changes for enemies to feel less brittle and the guns to feel more equal

[frail bloom]

Hey Hugo wants to add stuff too but he's not here

[frail bloom]

Hmm wasn't this changed? When was the last time you replayed

[uneven mortar]

Pre any updates

But the updates since sound pretty light

[frail bloom]

Oh I think they buffed the game and nerfed the ssg

Hold on
@vital rapids
Didn't they do that

#the-dark-ages message

[silent surge]

yes

on some enemies it’s nerfed

[frail bloom]

There ya go

[uneven mortar]

Interesting. I really hope they separate the health and ammo pickup sliders, no idea why they're the same

I want low ammo but i dont want to die constantly

[frail bloom]

Hugo's gonna pick up the slack when he comes back

That rhymed

[uneven mortar]

Where is he

[frail bloom]

I think Paris

[uneven mortar]

Thats cool

[hollow sandal]

Yes, I want this too

Constantly feel low af on ammo to force me to melee

[frail bloom]

I never felt the resources was too much

I always look for pick ups lol

[uneven mortar]

I never felt pressured to swap guns

Which made me sad

[frail bloom]

If you melee constantly you get ammo

[hollow sandal]

Try to Switch for your own fun?

[frail bloom]

Well not quickswap yes

But I think the buff may incentive you more

[uneven mortar]

That's true but I kind of need the game to force me

[hollow sandal]

I gotcha

[frail bloom]

It's fun to expirement, and it is more optimal

I like using impaler and accelerator

Normal shotty for armor alongside flail

[uneven mortar]

A mode that automatically swaps your guns randomly would be fun

[fair gull]

What buff?

[frail bloom]

The buffs they added a while back

Added enemies and nerfing some weapons

[fair gull]

I think I would like to be able to block while switching weapons

[frail bloom]

For example, there are respawning mancubi in the first vagary fight

There were no mancubi on release

[opaque ether]

an error appears when I start it, something went wrong, please help

[fair gull]

Some of my deaths have been because I run out of ammo and while it forced me to switch weapons, I got hit.
Sure, it could be fixed by changing the setting that auto switches weapons, but its more than just those cases

[hollow sandal]

That's a cool idea

[frail bloom]

Infact, they have a lot of respawning pressure units added in morale encounters

So you're not gunning one guy and it feels drab

[uneven mortar]

Generally I think this game would benefit from a shit ton of wacky difficulty modes like the sekiro one thats coming

[frail bloom]

The really hard you gotta parry perfectly one? Ye sounds fun

Master levels too

But they kinda take time

[uneven mortar]

Yeah

[frail bloom]

Mayo also said they were adding stuff that would increase replayability but he won't say

He's edging us

[uneven mortar]

I understand that using all your weapons isn't really the intended thing in this game, but I wish they'd put more work into making that possible on top of the existing mechanics, I would like the agency to add extra management

[frail bloom]

Right
@slim shuttle
Just to make sure I ain't spreading rumors here

Sorry yet again

#the-dark-ages message

Hato told me earlier but I forgor when Mayo mentioned it

[uneven mortar]

I would like to manage my positioning and shield use and whatnot and also have the option to keep an eye on my ammo, but the sliders as they exist pack in "you also get no health"

[vital rapids]

I love the sound of a super hard parry mode, but am 80% sure I will irredeemably suck at it in practice

[frail bloom]

It's there for the tryhards

[uneven mortar]

It honestly sounds very cool but definitely not for me, I couldn't get into sekiro

[vital rapids]

I'm still gonna try, probably with hilarious results

[frail bloom]

I have like 2 and a half months of summer at least 2 master levels

And some more options

[uneven mortar]

Even something super artificial and mean like "you can only use each weapon for twenty seconds then it swaps you" would make the game more fun for me

[frail bloom]

Before I take like the hardest classes in my life

[uneven mortar]

God, you know what would be really cool?

A way to replay the campaign but with randomly shuffled weapon progression

[vital rapids]

I think it's fair, you're definitely supposed to be actively able to use all your weapons, even if the game's juggling fun zone is shield vs melee vs gun, not gun vs gun

[frail bloom]

At least all your weapons are useful with the shield, they accomplished that

It's gun plus shield plus melee

Think about it this way, this is the clean slate, they can only go up from here

[vital rapids]

Although I'm not sure about how it might effect close combat. I find the need to time weapon use/switches a fun part of it

[frail bloom]

Next doom game or dlc

[uneven mortar]

I hate that the dreadmace refills all your ammo

[frail bloom]

I never use that thing lol

Idc if it's unoptimal I have more fun

[uneven mortar]

It's so fun to use but getting all my ammo back feels cheaty

[vital rapids]

Yeah that's what I meant. Shield vs melee vs parry = brainfart

[frail bloom]

Ye

Honestly this may be the medieval 2016 doom game and next one is balls to the walls with mechanics

Like crazy switching meathook shieldbash shenanigans

Smt crazy

[uneven mortar]

Actually, just the option to turn off the upgrades you get for ammo, health, weapons etc would be a COLOSSAL improvement to replay value. I could just set my ammo count to minimum.

[vital rapids]

I think it's one way to balance it - for me it works
I think more granular sliders for resources/drops would be really useful for some players

[frail bloom]

You could ask mayo he keeps in touch with them

Or maybe not idk

[vital rapids]

This game as released is definitely onboarding for the new stuff. They can ramp it up

[frail bloom]

Ye and it would make sense because our ssg has sentinel engravings so we use it at some point

Imagine, you sprint automatically, maybe the shift key is a glorykill you build through execution charges, doing a glory kill causes a shockwave that pushes all demons away from you

[vital rapids]

Yeah - if sparsity of ammo can be tweaked for instance, it can be adjusted to classic doom levels or eternal levels and everyone's a winner

[frail bloom]

Would be a good way to implement glory kills going forward

It would also use the left stick by clicking, better than a sprint button

[uneven mortar]

Tbh if they could find a way to synergize Eternal's full-arsenal gameplay with Dark Ages' positioning and melee/shield stuff, that would be incredible

[vital rapids]

Glory kills with shock waves would be awesome, although maybe they should be harder to pull off than "normal" finishers or glory strikes

[frail bloom]

Ye like way harder

But would feel awesome when you do it

I'm implementing that into concepts I'm making rn

I'm making concepts abt a new doom game, I drew like 25 demons

[uneven mortar]

Tbh I think they could have just reserved glory kills for heavy demons in TDA and the pacing would have still been great. I understand cutting it for fodder but I'm starting to think they overcorrected

[frail bloom]

Hugo we are cooking here

[frail bloom]

No no it made sense, but they could add two more side top glorykills so we have 4 per demon

[uneven mortar]

Honestly???????? Just hold the button for glory kill, tap for strike. There, fixed your game.

[vital rapids]

Glory kills that have momentum and a shock wave could have some spectacular animations. Might even be better than the OG ones for the big GK fans

[frail bloom]

I don't like that argument, if you want it to register instantly it should register instantly, just use a different key to avoid that stuff, like SHIFT, which uses sprint???? Why not just increase the base speed

[uneven mortar]

That's true

[frail bloom]

Ye especially on really huge demons

[uneven mortar]

DK Bananza trailer made me wish you could hurt demons by sending glory struck bodies into them

Idk just having some button or combination of buttons for glory kills would have been cool, and giving them their own benefit

[frail bloom]

For example, a custom demon I drew, the nephilim, has a variety of ways you can kill. Shooting its core for 100% damage, putting it an a glory strike and either:
Punch it in the face so hard it falls and blows up
Cut it's calves and watch it fall and blow up
Put a bomb on its neck and blow it up manually

[vital rapids]

I like this. OK how about this: being able to tear a head off and kill a second demon by throwing it at them.

Not too sure about that one

[frail bloom]

The nephilim is like 13 meters tall too, so it's core is a meathook point on its neck

[vital rapids]

But I keep thinking this game is an opportunity for spectacular multi finisher/glory kills

[uneven mortar]

Shadow warrior 3 had a really cool mechanic where you tear superweapon body parts off demons

[frail bloom]

Wait lemme share the concept art

#screenshots message
@vital rapids
@uneven mortar

It looks kinda washed cuz of discord but it looks cleaner in gallery

[uneven mortar]

Tbh just having way more glory strikes where you DONT send them flying would have been good

Like an overhead mace slam that makes them crumple. The super crazy ragdolls get kind of silly when theyre too often

Or just swing it into their side and send them off camera!

[frail bloom]

Ye these shockwave glorykills can be the new bloodpunch

Or sentinel hammer, or whatever you charge

[vital rapids]

Yeah, I could go for them adding these. I much prefer the GK kills being moved out of the flow of normal combat don't get me wrong
But they are great used once in a while for fun or a top up, might as well flesh them out a bit

[uneven mortar]

Tbh i HATED the glowing red aesthetic for weapons, felt so light and un-doom. Like why is this beast of a man using an energy sword

He should be wielding some guts sword

[frail bloom]

You think we can convince hugo to add 2 more per demon

[uneven mortar]

I hope so

[frail bloom]

So it's top front, left, right, back

Wouldn't break flow, no?

[uneven mortar]

A sweep under the legs would be fun

[frail bloom]

We don't have that mechanic

Maybe next game

[vital rapids]

A big-ass glaive would be fire
As would a hammer, although maybe a bit too much like the dreadmace

[uneven mortar]

Yeah, a halberd would totally fit doomguy

And you could get some sweeeeeet animations there

Iudex gundyr type shit

[frail bloom]

Someone here gotta suggest it to hugo, I'm never able to comment on his livestreams cuz I'm on tv watching them

We want 2 more per demon

[uneven mortar]

I have no idea how to get suggestions like that out, i wish there was a suggestions box

[frail bloom]

He and Josh reads comments but I don't know how they pick them

Maybe through super chat? Donation?

[uneven mortar]

I typed the seperate ammo and health sliders idea twice and got timed out

[frail bloom]

What

[uneven mortar]

In twitch chat

[frail bloom]

Were you spamming it?

[uneven mortar]

I guess twice can count as spam

[frail bloom]

That doesn't sound right

Hmm

Next best option is having mayo express your idea

[uneven mortar]

Is there a polite way to get in contact with him?

[frail bloom]

I'm afraid you might have to ping him
Sorry Mayo

But hey, this means we trust ya

Right?

[uneven mortar]

@slim shuttle Sorry for the ping, but I was wondering if you might relay the following idea at some opportunity: Separate the ammo and health resource sliders. I like ammo pressure, but I don't like the inability to recover health.

[vital rapids]

This would be my only concern. I wouldn't want our request to be construed as wanting the flow to change.
Want more glory strikes for sure, but the decision to have unsynced finishers as the usual way to do it is sound imo

[frail bloom]

Ofc ofc, my idea is that since they are on top, they are optional

I mean, they have 5 years till the next doom game, and we have no multiplayer, so it would be good content to add

[vital rapids]

You're onto something with this suggestion I think

[frail bloom]

Tbf that was the mods not hugo and josh right

I think they would love your idea

[uneven mortar]

Yeah but no harm done i suppose, moderation happens

[frail bloom]

But for now, we're in purgatory till hugo comes back

[hollow sandal]

Hugo pleewaaase 😭

[vital rapids]

WB from vacation Hugo, here's a list of stuff we'd like

[agile sonnet]

Azhrak that sick son of a bitch

I just did his boss fight.

My eye fucking twitched.

[frail bloom]

Dw you'll get your revenge

[agile sonnet]

Good.

[frail bloom]

I won't say how, but it is cathartic

[agile sonnet]

Also Thira looks badass btw

[frank turtle]

where are the hugo streams 💔

[agile sonnet]

Time for the Reckoning.

[frail bloom]

HUGO AIN'T HERE BECAUSE HE'S BUSY NERDING OUT OVER FRENCH PAINTINGS

[agile sonnet]

First Daisy... now this. That sick son of a bitch is gonna pay.

But fr though, my eye had actually twitched.

[frail bloom]

Huh

[agile sonnet]

Just noticed the Betrayer next to Thira in the opening cutscene to 22

[frail bloom]

Ye so

[agile sonnet]

Fun Lil detail

[frail bloom]

Hm

They're probably real good friends

I know so cuz marok is like behind them lol

[agile sonnet]

I ain't gonna lie

The only gun I used for Asshat (sounds so close to Azraks name) is the cycler

[frail bloom]

Huh

I call him asscrack

Actually we all do

[empty sable]

Who is we?

[frail bloom]

We should do that for serial killers, instead of giving them cool names like "zodiac killer" they don't deserve that

[frail bloom]

We don't respect the demon prince around here

[agile sonnet]

Not at fucking all.

[empty sable]

For the most part people thought he was a great villain. So that is strange.

[agile sonnet]

I hate him for the cutscene when you go into his third phase.

Other than that, actual great villain ngl

Good story, backstory, plan, etc

[frail bloom]

No dude not in terms of writing like why would I like ahzrak he's mean

[empty sable]

"He's mean" lol

[frail bloom]

Yes

[agile sonnet]

He's a meanie.

[empty sable]

Given that he's a demon, maybe he should run around with stuffed animals and give his demon coworkers hugs round the clock lol

[agile sonnet]

EXACTLY

[empty sable]

Gotta increase that morale. That's why he didn't win 😉

[agile sonnet]

I almost accidentally BFC a single revenant- that could've been embarrassing

[fast yarrow]

I just bought Doom the dark ages Any tips?

[agile sonnet]

Don't die?

[frail bloom]

Do NOT play the game

[fast yarrow]

Yeah, well that’s what you try not to do in every doom game

[agile sonnet]

The shield is your best friend.

[fast yarrow]

Why

[frail bloom]

Ok seriously tho, check your settings

Try turning on auto sprint

Maybe mess with audio settings if it's not good enough

[fast yarrow]

Hold up let me get my Notes out

[frail bloom]

Check your HDR and visual settings, either really low for high fps or maybe make it crispier by increasing sharpening

Maybe change the parry color if you don't like green

Lots of things

Depends on what you like

And prefer

[tranquil badge]

upgrade your combat shotgun to the max

I unironically use that thing more than the ssg

[agile sonnet]

Upgrade the shield first

Trust me, it saved my ass and I got that tip from here

[frank turtle]

that sheild upgrade that repairs it faster is a must have asap

it's called steadfast, it's a priority on ultra nightmare

[agile sonnet]

Just fully upgrade the shield first imo

It will save your ass

[frank turtle]

yeah honestly

blade master is very very good too

[agile sonnet]

Slow burn or ignition-

[frank turtle]

I fucking love kicking demons in doom tda

Just as fun as glory kills in some ways

[agile sonnet]

Fr

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-drop-kick-gif-11327017

[agile sonnet]

Love the name

[honest vortex]

This song was always pretty good:
https://youtu.be/vNI4rxeih_k?si=k6tOCXDhuz6iMIst

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-off-mngani-spartan-gif-23659873

[agile sonnet]

?

[zealous shard]

is it true, that doom tda is sponsored by nvidia? like, it's optimised to run on their crap?

[agile sonnet]

They had to release new drivers specifically for TDA

So assuming, yes

[vital rapids]

they release new drivers for games regularly

but yes in this 1. game was used as a big rtx 50 promotion and 2. it has nvidia involved tech. Like Cyberpunk

[prime hound]

I finally got the kill animation I wanted!

[vital rapids]

Divinity skin might actually be the best one in the game

[prime hound]

https://tenor.com/view/mouth-attack-muto-godzilla-force-feeding-atomic-heat-beam-gif-17524378465839584671

[prime hound]

I am just playing the game right now, not bothered by skins

[idle sleet]

The more I play, the more I love.

Abyssal Forest. Nightmare. Path Tracing. BRING. IT. ON.

[prime hound]

I just play for catharsis

I don't like the first map but I sorta like mission 5, mainly DRAGON!

[young stratus]

I am terrible at spotting secrets

I guess it's partly age but surviving can be tough with all those animations on screen

[long sparrow]

I prefer the vanilla one

[frank turtle]

funny ass clip in #screenshots

[tranquil badge]

yeah those are the first two to get maxed in my runs so far

[agile sonnet]

Fr (I'm only 14)

[vital rapids]

ugh upgrade paralysis

https://tenor.com/view/worriedface-gif-22186488

[ember shard]

Am I the only one who misses the mods and the dashing 😮‍💨

[honest vortex]

Maybe it's just me but I can kinda imagine this theme in Dark Ages:
https://youtu.be/WiqLKp8U_K8?si=V86Xrg5CQE6kru3H

[thorny yarrow]

@hard thistle A thought just occurred to me playing through the Temple of Lomarith.

It is the only place in the cosmic realm with a violet color scheme. And in the sky above Lomarith there are even blue hues. The Temple of Lomarith also has the bodies of many dead Wraiths scattered around it. And given it is the place where the ritual occurs to awaken Thira's wraith soul and extract its energy, I think it could be safe to say that Temple is the primary place where that was done, and because of that pervasive action, the area around it may be the true look and form of the cosmic realm.

Everywhere else seems to be a sickly green color, which I wonder may be a result of the fact that the cosmic realm at large is dying. Perhaps the loss of the Wraiths is partially to blame for the Cosmic Realm's Degradation? Or perhaps just the loss of the old one? Maybe both? Either way I get the impression that, because of the blue hues in the sky, we could surmise that a bit of Wraith energy permeates that location, as the place where Wraiths seemed to be frequently sacrificed, or otherwise killed.

The fact that the basic attack for beings from the cosmic realm is violet also lends credence to this idea I think.

[heady agate]

that's allot of words

[thorny yarrow]

It's lore discussion. You may feel free to ignore it.

[dawn vault]

glory kills in this game are a weird thing to get used to

[thorny yarrow]

Very satisfying once you do though.

[silver bobcat]

Iirc the witch mentions that she wants the old one back because she doesn't want to be confined to this dying realm

[dawn vault]

I believe you need to run and jump. I appreciate adding a skill barrier to it but Glory Kills felt satisfying and quick in the fast paced gameplay while they became muscle memory as in they were happening every 5 seconds. Really shifts the games pace in a way I'm not totally used to yet

[real lynx]

Something like that. It would make sense that the lack of wraiths is a problem

[thorny yarrow]

Yeah. I imagine the old one might be able to traverse between realms in ways most denizens of the Cosmic REalm may not be able to.

[thorny yarrow]

Well, they aren't the main method to perform the function of glory kills any more. It's more convenient to simply strike them and add the Glory Kills in for spice.

[frail bloom]

Alr gonna pick up where I left off on eternal

Spent 1 hr and 20 min up to doom hunter base, gonna play it next

[frank turtle]

nice

is ravager still a top tier weapon?

[frail bloom]

My chainsaw not registering

Annoying

[vital rapids]

Sentinel Command Station combat with path tracing
Now I can see the money on display tbh. It's frigging decent boys

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-big-eyes-seriously-shocked-gif-12278669

[frail bloom]

Alr doom hunter base took me 25 min

So an hour and 45 min now

SGN next

[young stratus]

already srtuck on chapter 4 :/

[hard thistle]

Very possible, I like the ideas. I'll have to think about that.

[stone jay]

I need opinions, I was doing a tda UN run and even tho I parried, triggering my shield rune my shield was broken from the attack and then I died very quickly after, I have encountered a bug that still has my save file so I can carry on but does that invalidate my run or is it correcting where the game as made a mistake and not letting the error lost hours of progress?

[frank turtle]

halfway through un

[frank turtle]

if ur sure it was a bug, I'd say keep it going maybe

[stone jay]

I love it for the health it drops, good for the boss fights

[frank turtle]

alright thanks ill try it on un

oh god I hate the first fight on chapter 13, it's a PAIN sometimes

[stone jay]

Oh yea I parried and my shield instantly broke even tho it slowed down made the sound and triggered my shield rune

[frank turtle]

the hell

[stone jay]

Sentinel command station is a tense one 🤣🤣

[frank turtle]

yeah that probably was a weird bug then

what chapter r u on?

[young stratus]

I am in ulotra violence and already feeling pissed at chapter 4

[stone jay]

Yea I know I don't mind dying to me messing up, I'll take the L and go back to the drawing board and mission 1 but have spent all day on it, got to chapter 20 and died to a bug

[frank turtle]

lol, it's really fun when you learn all the mechanics

[stone jay]

What's pissing you off?

[young stratus]

it seems so easy to die and there is a long fight and noc heckpoint between the waves

[frank turtle]

oh man, my personal best is chapter 14

[stone jay]

Agreed, at the end of my first play through I hated the game but second time through when everything clicked into place it felt great

[young stratus]

it's at a place where i am supposed to go to "lair of the deragon" and there are wave of enemies with hell knights and pinky riders

[stone jay]

Siege 1 used to get me all the time, then chapter 14, the doom hunter just destroyed me, same happened on the second cosmic realm mission

[stone jay]

Oh that's an annoying room, i can only suggest headshot to all the knights it puts them in glory kill right away and same for the riders, get rid of the ranged attacks then just keep your distance

[mighty star]

[frank turtle]

alright I'm back at my pb, gonna take a breather before I play again

spire of nerathul is a longggg chapter

prob one of the best though

[young stratus]

maybe i should lowzer to hurt me plenty

[pliant coral]

Almost done with all weapon challenges

[young stratus]

classic doom was much slower than modern doom games I feel

[frank turtle]

yeah true, this game has more slower projectials and bigger open areas. gives you that battleground feeling

tda is alot like classic doom compared to the other games. and I love it

[next thistle]

Optional encounter in Beast of the Belly gets me again on Pandemonium!!! Arghhh 😂😂😂

[rustic prawn]

@thin zinc halfway done with my pandemonium run, thanks for suggesting this game. love it!

[thin zinc]

glad you're loving it and kicking ass!

michelle, which gun you running?

[rustic prawn]

Accelerator is OP

[thin zinc]

hell yeah sister

[west echo]

I finally beat the game in ultra nightmare and got the platinum trophy for it

[west echo]

It is

I pair it with the super shotgun

[rustic prawn]

nice!

[next thistle]

Do y'all enjoy the Accelerator more than the Cycler?

[west echo]

It depends

On the situation

[next thistle]

I've been running Cycler for the Shock and Lightning arcs and then switched to SSG to finish

[west echo]

I like the cycle on tanks

And on large groups of them

The best rune in my opinion is the holy swarm

[frank turtle]

is it worth using slow burn on the ravager

or should I just use ignition

[west echo]

Tbh i barely touched that weapon

But i could give it a test rn if you want

[frank turtle]

it's really good since it gives health, it's mainly a boss weapon tbh

[west echo]

Id use slow burn

[frank turtle]

I think I'm gonna use it for the asscrack fight

[vital rapids]

Gratz!

[west echo]

Only 34 hours for it

Not that bad

[frank turtle]

nice!

currently on chapter 15 un

[thin zinc]

my pandemonium runs end at sentinel barracks every time. 🙂

[gaunt gull]

I wanted to do ultra nightmare for the bragging but I'm wondering if I shouild've done pandamonium first because the skin looks cooler

Also, can mancubus feint? I've also several instances where you get close, they charge up a green attack then slam the ground like it's a green attack. But it's not. No parry if you raise shield. No damage if you don't. And they then hold the pose like they're screaming in your face.

I was talking to some people here how we couldn't tell if something is a bug or a feature. Here's another one.

[zenith sun]

Was good twins

[pliant coral]

Just beat the story but have to go back to compete and mission challenge to 100% it

[pliant coral]

And just like that I 100% the game. Man this game is fun

[honest vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239360180966260802/1385441894376673484/Screenshot_20250619-181103.jpg?ex=685614cf&is=6854c34f&hm=1e101cd7fdca6fae1dc397b1d61aa79e2bc72c738fdfddce64ce4babbba2979e&

[pliant coral]

Yep.

[thin zinc]

i want more modes and more achievements. i got the 1000 too

[pliant coral]

It’s funny that not all gold and rubies can be spent once everything is bought

Cosmic Realm was very enjoyable and the Spire of Nerathul were great!

[frail bloom]

I did not enjoy spire of nerathul it's the only level where I feel like my preformance drops slightly, just that level

And it looks kinda drab

Combat is fun tho

[pliant coral]

The Cosmic stuff was all fun for me. I didn’t care too much for the Hell levels but got through them all the same

[frail bloom]

Hard disagree I think reckoning is the best level lol

To each his own

(Btw I do love the actual cosmic realm stuff just not the prerequisite)

[pliant coral]

Well yes the Hell level after the Cosmic Realm was fun, I mean the ones like storming the Castle and then the final area, those Hell levels I cared not much for.

[frail bloom]

The mech one? Ye

I liked forsaken plains tho

[pliant coral]

Fair.
At least there is a level everyone can find enjoyment in.

Though I dislike the Old One level but yet again I see why it had to happen.

[frank turtle]

even with the nerf, the ravager is still amazing

[honest vortex]

I love the aesthetics!

I got Donkey Kong Country 2 vibes from it!

The water, skybox, mood, and pirate ships were gorgeous!

Lovely waterfalls!

[honest vortex]

Starting from Spiral of Nerathul until the end of the game is basically the best game ever

[pliant coral]

It was nerfed?
Hm, guess I wasn’t using much of it to find out

[honest vortex]

Spiral of Nerathul, Hell missions, Cosmic Realm, and Siege Part 1/2 were all my favorite missions out of the whole trilogy!

[frank turtle]

it was tweaked last patch

[honest vortex]

I really like the forest level as well

[pliant coral]

Ah.

[frank turtle]

yeah those missions are awesome

[honest vortex]

Yes I like them even more than VEGA Central Processing, Argent Facility Destroyed, and Titan's Realm.

Which is saying SOMETHING

[honest vortex]

I was the biggest VEGA Central Processing shill you'd ever find along with Ken Hoffman, and I am still shocked that they finally topped it not once, not twice, but even more times for me, in Dark Ages.

[autumn ridge]

Any ideas to fix a bug. I can't progress after finding the Deadmace. I'm supposed to jump through a pool but the door doesn't open.

[autumn ridge]

Chapter 15,the pool after the elevator.
Tried resetting from checkpoint twice and relaunching

[frank turtle]

is that from eternal?

[honest vortex]

No. DOOT '16

[frank turtle]

I'm not sure, you might have to restart the level

[frank turtle]

ah ok, I haven't gotten to that level yet lol

I'm a sucker for the level design in this game ngl

mainly cause I really like doom 1 & 2

[honest vortex]

In Dark Ages?

Yeah I agree

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages levels are also like D64 levels

[frank turtle]

Yep

[copper zealot]

Is this a good chatroom to offer up a little feedback/tweak/suggestion that would potentially improve TDA?

[delicate grotto]

Not sure if id developers check this chat for constructive feedback, but plenty of us like to discuss what we think it could’ve done better regardless. No game’s perfect.

[copper zealot]

1 hundo p. I'd post it on reddit, but I'm vanned sitewide which is a pretty big PIA when I want to post little deedbacks like this on various games. Mine is less overall structure in this case and more specific niche adjustment that I think would be useful--I just want there to be an option in the menu for melee choices to persist after death when changed mid-checkpoint (even if that means charges reset to zero). That way if I know I want a particular melee option in a particular encounter, I don't have to keep changing it every time I die

[mint bridge]

Peak

[delicate grotto]

I agree. I wish changing your runes and melee options saved when equipping them. Pretty annoying to have to repeat the process every death. I’d expect there to be a lot of QOL changes coming to the game in the next few months, hopefully with that being one of them.

[copper zealot]

It's literally driving me nutty on this one particular encounter lol. Completely killing my flow

Rune choice changes actually do persist between deaths though

I think they didn't with melee changes because they didn't want people spawning with zero charges. Should still be an option though

[crisp dune]

Do you guys think I could find premium edition (or Dark Ages in general) for ps5 at GameStop?

[violet ledge]

Is it normal to 100% the game on your first play through?

[crisp dune]

Depends on how long you took

[violet ledge]

Too long

Almost burnt myself out

[crisp dune]

Dat not gud

[violet ledge]

It took me about 18-20 hrs, not all in one sitting though, I'd play for like 3 hrs a day

[crisp dune]

Same with Doom Eternal, do you think I could get Dark Ages for ps5 at GameStop?

[violet ledge]

Probably

I have game pass so yknow

[crisp dune]

Nice

[pliant coral]

It depends on the game.
For Dark Ages I think it’s fine, but I took some time between levels for I can easily get through the game too quickly.

If it’s an open world type, well that is bad. lol

[mint bridge]

Yes i did that

[fathom remnant]

What if we had Arnold as doom guy in lets say the 90s or a year in 2000 for the release year. And instead of having him speak just have the helmet and him just making grunts and such while ripping demons. You might could do the original story where he gets in trouble and gets sent to mars and that could be where he had dialogue. But for someone to be a badass killing demons with a whole arsenal I think the Terminator could pull it off in an alternate universe

[mint bridge]

But i recomment playing casually in first playthrough instead of focusing on 100% to have more fun playing

[mint bridge]

Only dolph lundgren can do justice to both doom guy and guts from berserk

[merry sapphire]

yeah cause that means you liked the game

[full barn]

dark ages imp stalkers have more aura than like 90% of the demon roster

[pliant sonnet]

omg that twisting room puzzle made me very sick

i almost feel like puking

no regard for ppl with motion sickness

[proud cloud]

They made him a giga chad

[pliant sonnet]

😦

[merry sapphire]

their design is so good

[full barn]

how bro 😭

[merry sapphire]

dude just close Yo Eyes 😂

[pliant sonnet]

i didnt know what it did. when i made it turn for the first time, it was too late

i have terrible motion sickness

[merry sapphire]

well if it makes you feel better this is the only motion sickness inducing section in the entire game

[pliant sonnet]

yea i was wondering if it was the only one lol. because holy shit

good to know im already past it then

[merry sapphire]

you not gonna like whats next tho if you have thalassophobia

[pliant sonnet]

i do

lol how did u guess

in that room, when u get into the water and there's a tentacle looming around

i felt anxious, made me nervous, i thought it was gonna get me if i went too deep lol

so i got panicky and went out of the water asap

i just made it to the next level

time to go to bed, im already dizzy enough

[fathom remnant]

I haven't beaten the game yet but I am wondering something that has to deal with timeline events. but are we saying that before the events of dark ages doomguy gets put in the divinity machine or sometime after?

[frank turtle]

before

that's when the maykrs put a tether on him

[delicate sparrow]

Game takes place after he beats the titan and gets the doomslayer name but but before he gets betrayed and trapped in hell for aeons

[gritty matrix]

they're cool and leaving something out because of "no regards of" it's a slippery slope.

no regards for people with arachnophobia, let's take out vagrants
no regards for people with thalassophobia, let's take out underwater sections
no regards for extremely religious people, let's take out demons
no regards for people who do not like guns, let's make the doom slayer fight with flowers

[slender night]

I remember someone in this server once saying that including a setting for players with arachnophobia is bad lmao

[frank turtle]

chapter 21 ultra nightmare, oh boy

[austere patio]

So i tried the PT update yesterday... I am kinda unimpressed. I played through the game 3 times before that without PT and I gotta say I honestly like the game with more frames way better in comparison. Mind you I got a Chad PC (9800x3d, 5090, 240hz UWQHD) and PT runs reasonably with 90 fps (DLAA) and 2xFG, but the input lag is very not doom. The game is beautiful enough without PT to justify higher fps gains. Unlike CyPu77 PT also didn't really do much for me graphical wise. I take the increased hit on fps and input lag 77 because it's just that much better implemented. What are your takes on that?

[frank turtle]

Hey guys serious question, who is the "thickest" enemy in Doom: The Dark Ages? Could it be the Mancubus? Or what about the Cacodemon..? Wait, no.. It has to be price ahzrak right..?

[graceful lion]

https://tenor.com/view/icon-of-sin-brb-gif-23688717

icon of sin, no competition

[frank turtle]

OH MY GOD

[tranquil bluff]

I never really understood why people think Vaylin's son is who your fighting in eternal, when he says "when his heart is laid to rest, then his soul will be at peace and so will mine" throwing you the knife to stab the heart preventing the maykrs from controlling the icon after that, that's doom 2s icon of sin and he remembers you

and he's still a wall

[frosty coyote]

Basically the soul of his son was used to resurrect the icon of sin, so TECHNICALLY its not him, but its funnier that way

[frosty coyote]

Not As thicc As me

[waxen rivet]

😭

[frosty coyote]

Deadass

[waxen rivet]

I'm thiccer

[frosty coyote]

All of my fat is in my buttcheecks.

Thats why im built like a twig

[frosty coyote]

Cap

[waxen rivet]

Teto did not say that shi

[frosty coyote]

Well She did

[waxen rivet]

😔

What are you evil Teto? That hates baguettes?

[frosty coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-32ki-satsuki-mesmerizer-gif-4049106824820565488

[waxen rivet]

No stop

https://tenor.com/view/teto-mesmerizer-gif-1651698684609187246

Hahah

[frosty coyote]

Damnit

LET ME DO IT VEGGAGAAA

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-mesmerizer-teto-kasane-teto-utauloid-gif-18026299332722498137

[waxen rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-shake-head-no-denied-gif-4405290518668538254

[frosty coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-latinas-dance-teto-latina-latinas-gif-6854842824448665095

[waxen rivet]

Same

Kys Vega

[winter idol]

stop the gif spam plase

[waxen rivet]

Ok

[tranquil bluff]

teto

[frosty coyote]

Ok

[waxen rivet]

miku

[frosty coyote]

Neru

[waxen rivet]

kasane

[frosty coyote]

Akita

[waxen rivet]

Hatsune what am I doing with my life

[frosty coyote]

Megurine nothing good

[waxen rivet]

uhhhh Meiko can't think of anyone else besides there common names such as Kaito, Rin, Len and Fuskase.

[frosty coyote]

Kagamine you really are stupid

[waxen rivet]

Fukase I own debt to the irs

[frosty coyote]

Idk any more names then pay it

[waxen rivet]

Gamera i miss my wife

[frosty coyote]

Haku then get her back

[waxen rivet]

Mothra she left me for a door knob

[frosty coyote]

Make her pay.

Remember:

[slim tulip]

Anyone knows how it works with premium edition code from collectors bundle if I already have a standard game? Will it count as a premium upgrade?

[frank turtle]

yeah it should

I had gamepass and then I bought the premium upgrade. so it should work the same for you

[orchid rover]

The game at 50% Damage kinda fucks. I enjoy a more prolonged fight with enemies lasting longer, but I wish I could finely tune it since I don't want Leaders having more HP

[young stratus]

today I am going to resume to chapter 5, i play in ultra violence but I feel a bit frustrated...It's not the same thing as ultraviolence in og doom

[orchid rover]

UV in old Doom was very hard

I may be too good at Doom but the ITYTD and HMP are genuinely braindead easy to the point of making the game less fun

[young stratus]

I don't know why I find it easier in old dooms.Maybe because i grew with them

I used to play it in a tactic way,, trying to save ammo, get monhsters to fight each other whenever possible and useful

like getting a spider demon to fight a mancubus

https://youtu.be/atdyHvLhJXo?feature=shared

[orchid rover]

Older Doom was a thousand times simpler and more restrictive

[full barn]

do you think cycler plasma tastes good

and where do skullcrusher skulls come from

[frank turtle]

yeah they probably taste very yummy

[full barn]

imagine being one of the skulls and realizing youre gonna be used in the pulverizer 🤮 and not the ravager

[frank turtle]

trueee

imagine being a worm 💔 🥀