the-dark-ages

[cinder estuary]

I dunno man the story is a bit too marvelish for me

[fleet karma]

yo someone pls help i just get a black screen when i open and idk how to fix it

[limber onyx]

Yeah it suck. I want to gift Hugo Martin a full bookcase of French Comics to wash away the Marvel Slop.

[cinder estuary]

At first I was okay, the more I play through the game the less I like it. Opposite to the gameplay tho, which I increasingly like

[sonic turret]

On which platform?

[fleet karma]

pc

[limber onyx]

Brit and French comics are awesome, Marvel and Dc have been Godawful for a solid decade.

[fleet karma]

tryed that

[cinder estuary]

He made a dad movie story, but the millennial dad movie, not the boomer dad movie

Lmao

[limber onyx]

Buddy, pick AD 2000 and Heavy Metal and you will see how bad Marvel slop sucks. You wont ever want to touch that crap again.

[fleet karma]

how i already played and beat it 2 times without any probs

[hushed cave]

alt enter twice, that’s usually what fixes black screen for me but it could be a different issue

[limber onyx]

It is slop, I know I used to read comics and you are missing on so much by sticking with Marvel, the absolute lowest garbage tier of the comic industry.

[cinder estuary]

Marvel movies are only goated if you are 15, with very feel exceptions, for example the first iron man, captain America winter soldier and the guardians trilogy.

Otherwise, marvel movie stories are very fucking bad

[hushed cave]

marvel movies excel at making the main heroes look cool, and to me that’s all that really mattered in tda’s story lol

[limber onyx]

They are, read Spawn, Hellboy, Judge Dread, Manhattan Projects, Heavy Metal and you will see how much you are missing

[cinder estuary]

Judge Dread is bad

But it's good bad, not bad bad like thor movies

You're talking about the movies right?

[limber onyx]

No way, okay what are you currently reading from Marvel that even compares?

[ebon shale]

So you just turned 16 and now you know better

[cinder estuary]

He didn't read them

[limber onyx]

Obviously

[cinder estuary]

I said 15 as a range, I meant to say "you only think marvel stories are goated if you are very young"

[frail bloom]

How so

[limber onyx]

Eric Powell The G0n is a great comic, everybody should read it

[cinder estuary]

Let me be clear, it feels like early marvel movies stories, not comedy slop later marvel movies

[limber onyx]

I think they suck more since current stories revolve around killing characters I mean the last spider-man event had him die, no joke, like 8 times because the author thought it was clever to make Peter Nihilistic.

[cinder estuary]

Dude current marvel has a c*ck fetishist writing every main character

[frail bloom]

Hmmm, that is bc of the time period it's set in honestly. You have lots of recognizable characters, and it takes place in a very weird and different time of the doom universe, it was expected honestly

[limber onyx]

The x-men are a tragedy, I started rooting for the sentinels. The way Nimrod elbow drops and kills a bunch of muties was the only good part about the whole Krakoa nonsense.

[cinder estuary]

That's the only explanation

[frail bloom]

But ye it could be better

[limber onyx]

You mean for whats his name, Paul right? oh and MJ Venom is so stupid.

[cinder estuary]

It's not terrible, it's serviceable for what it is.

[cinder estuary]

Dude, Paul is 100% the product of a c*ck fetishist

There is no explanation

[frail bloom]

Ye it works, but it did feel kinda short, and forsaken plains is kinda a filler level

[limber onyx]

That is true for X-men, Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four. I can give concrete examples.

[cinder estuary]

I think the dlc will be better

[frail bloom]

I'm hoping the dlc expands on the story, idk how or to what degree

[cinder estuary]

Bro you haven't been reading if you didn't know that. Almost all main story lines boil down to cucking

[vital rapids]

I quite like the story tbh. Nothing earth-shattering, but perfectly serviceable for an FPS, good production values in the portrayal and reminiscent of wh40k and Quake as well

[frail bloom]

Maybe tda is in itself a beginning to a trilogy that builds over games

Better than eternal where it crams like everything, the dark lord was an effect of that

[cinder estuary]

For the context of doom it's pretty good, but if you review it by itself, it's very meh at best

[limber onyx]

Peter was C* by Paul, The Thing was c* by the Human Torch, Reed is practically into it, Cyclopes was c* by Namor. There is possibly not a single mutant that has not been c*ked at this rate.

[frail bloom]

Yes that's my opinion honestly

[cinder estuary]

Wolverine cucks Cyclops a lot tbh

[vital rapids]

I would never review the story of a Doom game as if it wasn't the story of a Doom game though tbh
It only needs to link the lore to the gameplay

[cinder estuary]

Bro

[limber onyx]

Thor is not relevant and possibly won't be until we get another Edwing Mini, Strange was c*cked by Dr Doom, I do not even know how to break the whole situation with Wolverine right now. Captain America has not even appear in comics in I do not know how long, when was TIme Runs Out?

[cinder estuary]

Holy crap this guy must be a newborn

[frail bloom]

Doom can have a great story, there are multiple ways a story can accomplish good storytelling

[limber onyx]

Which one?

[cinder estuary]

Who hasnt

[frail bloom]

It can be simple, poignant, or complex

[cinder estuary]

Doom 2016 has the best doom story imo

[limber onyx]

Which Galactus, also not really because he is Richard Franklin's Pet. I miss the future foundation.

[cinder estuary]

Every character is op asf on comics

[frail bloom]

Yes in how it's told however pretty generic

[limber onyx]

The campaign was fine, TAG 2was definitively not okay

[vital rapids]

I enjoy what they've done with this. Telling of a legend without getting too pretentious.

[cinder estuary]

The presentation is amazing, it makes the generic story sound really good

Noone is actually dead on comics

[limber onyx]

Was that recently because finding Galactus dead was something in FF4 that I do not remember if it paid of because of the incurssions and Battleworld. I love how nothing has weight or consequences in Marvel.

[frail bloom]

I thought they coulda killed some more people, maybe set up serrat and doomguys bond a bit more

[limber onyx]

Except for the audience.

[vital rapids]

Yeah. The feelings are still a bit raw about that

[frail bloom]

Maybe dlc can have some crushing deaths

Cough cough Thira

He probably dies in the civil war

Marok just has to die

[vital rapids]

We had the crushingest death of all, already tbh. It's Daisy all over again
(Hence the name Serrat, allegedly)

[frail bloom]

What a pointless dude

[limber onyx]

I am going to cut you some slack and recommend you some GOOD Marvel comics from when it was better. Superior Foes of Spider-Man is honestly a great read. Time Runs Out was great. Journey Into Mysery by Edwing was a great ride. Holy crap, how many good writers have Marvel lost in the past 15 years? Even Ian Flynn dabs on the entire line up

[cinder estuary]

That's what happens when you pander to an audience that

1.doesnt care about super heroes
2.doesnt read
3.doesnt have an attention span longer than 12 seconds

[limber onyx]

Oh Annihilation was awesome, read thst saga

[cinder estuary]

Modern comics are a fruit of the modern audience

[night quest]

I'm new in this server, and this has probably been said before, but the one handed lever action super shotgun is THE BEST Doom weapon I've ever seen

[vital rapids]

I don't want Thira to die unless there is some sort of stronger attachment formed first between her and the Slayer
Subtly, possibly platonically, not Geralt style

[night quest]

At least in terms of animations and looks

[limber onyx]

Modern Comics are a result of nepotism and corruption, they brought on board activists instead of creatives. Grant Morrison f* had it and pulled an Alan More where he quit because his integrity and the integrity of the characters was under attack. That said independent comics are still booming.

Heavy Metal the Comic, made a return past year.

[cinder estuary]

All this AND the modern audience

[cinder estuary]

Independent everything is booming

[limber onyx]

The modern audience does not exists, it is code for "well my friends from tumblr, and x and my polyamourous companions think it is cool" nobody likes the modern audience's taste

[cinder estuary]

Even independent manga and such if you also like that

[cinder estuary]

Yes that's the point LOL

[limber onyx]

That said, British comics, French comics and also Mexican comics are great.

[frail bloom]

I'm fine with that, but that's asking a lot for ol' Hugo lol

[empty sable]

Gotta cater to those tiktok brains lol

[cinder estuary]

I like web comics

[limber onyx]

From England there is good old Ad 2000, the French have the best sci-fi fantasy you will ever read. Poland has the witcher and Mexico has PuraPinche Fotaleza which are super gritty cyberpunk comics

[cinder estuary]

Mob Psycho was a web comic

And its one of the best pieces of media out there

[limber onyx]

I love that and One Man Punch, so good

[frail bloom]

I liked aot, till I didn't

[cinder estuary]

One punch man manga story is a bit too much for me, while the one punch man web comic is much MUCH better written

[empty sable]

Hugo wants Doomguy to only love killing demons and keep it OG.

[cinder estuary]

The manga sacrifices a lot of the writing for cool illustrations

[frail bloom]

No not romance like in depth nuanced storytelling in general

[limber onyx]

Not sure about that. I am a Hero does both

[frail bloom]

He's confirmed no romance

[cinder estuary]

Garou arc

Looks amazing on the manga, had a shit conclusion

Looks okay on the web comic, had an amazing conclusion

[empty sable]

Well, I found it strange that he showed some gentleness to her when taking her out of whatever meditative state she was in. So there's a certain level of respect there which Doomguy rarely has for others.

[limber onyx]

He makes Doomguy look like Guts, he introducs a female character and my man cannot compromise...Mmmm, come on give us our Casca. We know it does not end well but that is the thing, introduce some drama, some stakes.

[cinder estuary]

Doom guy always has been a righteous dude, ever since doom 1

[frail bloom]

Ye respect for sure, that's nuanced

Not full bore romance, it's more complicated than that

[cinder estuary]

He is not aggro to anything that doesn't need to be aggroed on

[empty sable]

True. Sometimes he's just so into brutal action mode it can slip out towards others. You just never know.

[cinder estuary]

The azrak getting the power from Thira scene reminded me of the eclipse, if the eclipse was pg13

[frail bloom]

Her old design looked better I'm sorry

It reminds me of a different character

[limber onyx]

You are insulting the memory of Kentaro with that comparison

[frail bloom]

White hair with a blindfold?

[vital rapids]

It's respect for her natural gravitas and authority I expect

[cinder estuary]

It has a really similar setup, but if it was made for kids to watch

You may be angry but you'll never say I'm wrong

[night quest]

Do yall know what ammo the chainshot uses? I have no idea, do is even use ammo? (I play doom without the hud)

[vital rapids]

Balls

[frail bloom]

Yes those balls

[limber onyx]

No, that scene would need every other named sentinel to die. Doom Guy to get killed more graphically and for Thira to suffer a whole lot more without getting Femto'd

[cinder estuary]

Balls of steel

[cinder estuary]

Like I said, eclipse if it was made for kids

[empty sable]

Honestly, she reminds me of Kerrigan from Stacraft. Is any of the team former Starcraft devs or players? lol

[limber onyx]

"Get off the vent or I will have you bent"

[frail bloom]

I know Marok at least has to die like c'mon

[limber onyx]

I wonder if Starcraft 3 will happen sooner than HL3 at this point.

[cinder estuary]

Here is the actual biggest blunder of tda

The preset difficulty settings are dogshit

Ultra violence and Nightmare barely feel different

[frail bloom]

Didn't know that

[limber onyx]

That was always the case desu

[cinder estuary]

Their sliders are virtually the same

[empty sable]

There was a rumor going around about First Ascendant devs making a Starcraft shooter. Who knows at this point, even at Blizz events they don't have Starcraft stuff up. It's disgraceful to not have respect for their OG ip, yet Overwatch is everywhere lol

[cinder estuary]

Nightmare on og doom was hilariously hard in comparison to Uv

[frail bloom]

are you sure it's just sliders, or smt we can't see at the same time

[limber onyx]

A starcraft FPS, Lmao are we still talking about Starcraft Ghost in 2025? Holy shittu

[cinder estuary]

It's just sliders, the difficulty is just values that change on the sliders

[frail bloom]

Hm

[limber onyx]

Oh I miss read, sorry

[cinder estuary]

There is no difference between UV AND nightmare besides enemy aggro and daze duration being slightly lower

[empty sable]

Personally I was hoping for a third-person shooter like Space Marine. Since Blizz is involved though who knows how that would go.

[cinder estuary]

Nightmare on TDA should be maxed the fuck out sliders besides the speed

[empty sable]

Every time you hear about a game Blizz is working on it's cancelled lol

[frail bloom]

I did lower the parry window to the lowest

[limber onyx]

All I know is that they wait for SC3 has been longer than that for SC2 since SC launch. That is nuts, why game companies makes less games now?

[cinder estuary]

As you should

[frail bloom]

I would like some master levels

[cinder estuary]

This game is much better if you set the parry window to lowest

[limber onyx]

I think the visual indicators in this game suck, they are too many of them. Ultrakill does it seamlessly, Dark Ages went for the Cuphead approach. This is an M rated game.

[frail bloom]

Like in the next month or two lol

[empty sable]

Can't believe Diablo 4 made it away from the chopping block, but their server and just structure of the engine feels like an old man getting up from the bathroom after sitting there too long. I'm just saying lol love the game overall and the graphics, they act like they never made an MMO before

[frail bloom]

Well you could change them yourself no?

Different colors and all of that

I changed my parry color to violet

[limber onyx]

Blizzard almost got me with Diablo 4, I am glad I did not buy it in the end. I liked the Open Beta unlike Diablo 3 which is when I abandoned ship. Dark Ages story at least is not as bad as that of Diablo 4. WTH happened to Blizzard?

[cinder estuary]

Althought ultrakill is a great game, I think for the longest time it didn't incentivizes players to actually try and be cool.

I remember a lot of people giving mayo shit for his take (to be fair his video was bad regardless), but funnily enough they actually did make an update afterwards that made it so you were a bit more punished for not being cool, but also got a bigger reward for being cool.

[limber onyx]

Only projectiles that can be parried should have a slightly different color, everything being green and red is so dumb. RTX also works against this game, too many frigging lights, is this hell or a disco?

[empty sable]

I enjoyed Diablo 4. Too much emphasis though on Lilith(Kerrigan knockoff) and I say that because she's all-powerful. The problem with Blizz is their wokeness it creeps in even when things are darker, they have a hard time writing mature stories because they are too busy pushing agendas that most of their playerbase don't care about. We are there for the game, now I can't speak for everyone, but playing DOOM is just refreshing after all that bs.

[frail bloom]

What are you talking abt lmao, just change it yourself. Are you saying that natural lighting is a disco? You're not in hell all the time anyway, this is ragebait

[cinder estuary]

Low projectile speed + 500% damage taken is insane btw

[frail bloom]

Like c'mon dude

[limber onyx]

Raytracing works against this game, if you are in a zone with too many projectiles everything looks in one color, it is off putting.

[cinder estuary]

I feel like this game only had required RTX for two reasons

1. Nvidia is probably sponsoring it
2. The budget and deadline were smaller

[frail bloom]

Looks in one color?? I can distinguish them pretty easily

Green and red, duh

[empty sable]

Like they had to go back into WoW Black Temple raid and take down paintings over half dressed blood elves and bs like that. It was there for years, they even renamed some of the earlier quests out of possible offending someone. Who cares? That should be the least of their worries, besides The Black Temple has tons of concubines in the place anyway, it's depraved which is the whole point. Replacing paintings of females with fruit lol

[frail bloom]

And your occasional purple and blue

[limber onyx]

I swear my screen was either green or violet for most encounters.

[cinder estuary]

Also, I will say, this game has amazing optimization

Not for PC

But the fact that it runs 60fps on Xbox series S and doesn't drop a single frame is black magic

[frail bloom]

Uh huh ye sure

[real lynx]

Bro you might be color blind

[frail bloom]

Ye like violet?

[limber onyx]

I still remember Warhammer 3 reforged, I am glad Blizzard had their priorities in order.

[frail bloom]

The 3 most prominent colors are like orange, green, purple

[limber onyx]

Well I did beat this game so I guess.

[patent robin]

what is the (M)* next to my save file?

[frail bloom]

You don't get introduced to cosmic enemies till level 14

And yet there isn't much of them during their introductory levels

[empty sable]

You mean Warcraft 3 Reforged? I'm probably the only one who liked it despite everyone's backlash. Upgraded graphics. They outsourced it though lol

[frail bloom]

Bro just change the color at that point

[limber onyx]

Eternal was a colorful game and still it was aesthetically pleasing. Dark Ages changes from too dark / blue too green and violet. Also the UI HUD sucks, who came up with the health bar graphics?

[frail bloom]

Health bar graphics???

Are you rambling

[limber onyx]

They removed the original from people's accounts at the start and the game was broken on launch and you had to open the game through a browser. Also they did something to the mods and change their agreement so if you would develop something like DOTA it was THEIRS to keep.

[frail bloom]

No seriously wdym by healthbar graphics

[limber onyx]

When you fight bosses and you see their health bars, well that UI sucks, looks like it belongs to an Early Access game.

[frail bloom]

oh my god

[vital rapids]

Yeah that doesn't sound right
Play with the colours in the game, it lets you configure them in case you get this sort of effect

[frail bloom]

Alr it's ragebait

Healthbars is a big no no even tho it's been there since 2016

[empty sable]

They should have left the original alone. If people wanted to play it they should've had access to it. W3 Reforged servers were horrible on launch. They even went and removed Warcraft 1 and 2 from GOG store after they remastered those. I liked the remasters, but come on lol Lame move.

[hollow sandal]

Verdant skin is no longer available?

[cinder estuary]

It's a timed exvlusive

[limber onyx]

The UI in in TDA looks really bad, amateur really.

[cinder estuary]

They will be available for everyone in the future

[empty sable]

Should have just released the remasters on GOG but Blizzard is too shady these days.

[hollow sandal]

Perfect thanks

[frail bloom]

Why

[hollow sandal]

How

[frail bloom]

It doesn't take much screen estate

[limber onyx]

The health bar is one horizontal red bar with a text in sarif at the top of the screen. It is like something from an alpha release.

[vital rapids]

This is unacceptable

[empty sable]

They tried to keep it as minimal as possible.

[hollow sandal]

It's a simple health bar dawg 😭

[limber onyx]

It does not look minimal in a cool way, it looks "well we need to ship this thing now because Starfield sold as many as 10 copies"

[hollow sandal]

What should it look like?

[vital rapids]

Ohhhhh
Though you were serious for a second

[frail bloom]

Well that does not impact my experience to the slightest

[hollow sandal]

Ok

[frail bloom]

I can just turn it off y'know

[hollow sandal]

What would you add to make it better atlas88wing

[empty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-bounce-red-dots-gif-11996071

[limber onyx]

Personally I would liked a banner with the name of the boss and an horizontal red vial that cracks with damage

[cinder estuary]

I hate health bars in video games

[limber onyx]

It was cool when Diablo did it, wel 1 & 2 anyways

[cinder estuary]

I think the spider mastermind boss by itself does a good job at showing if it's damaged or not

[limber onyx]

But impacts mine

[vital rapids]

Don't you play controllery parry games, though?

[limber onyx]

On model damage beats hp bars anyday.

[empty sable]

Starfield has its moments. But seriously, endless planets and you can tell your own stories. Todd was selling a bunch of hot air lol Planets devoid of life.

[cinder estuary]

Yes, and I don't like the health bars on them either, but it's a necessary evil for those types of games

[limber onyx]

The hp bar in eternal was better, shocker, Eternal did something better than TDA

[cinder estuary]

On GOD

[cinder estuary]

Eternal is good but it's 100% a game made for zoomers that were locked in their houses for extended periods of time

[vital rapids]

There's something specific to armoured arachnotrons that makes me miss their armour
Sometimes I realise this after twitch-charging them and expecting to kill them immediately

[frail bloom]

Turn it off then

Idk how to help you bc I just don't care abt that

[limber onyx]

Guy Eternal is my favorite game and I grew up with Doom and Quake. Also Zoomers play much slower games. Like Fornite is not fast paced but I hate building meta so badly.

[cinder estuary]

I think he wants the UI to look more artistically elaborate, not to remove them

[limber onyx]

Not everything in TDA can be disabled. There is not like a Blind Skull

[limber onyx]

Bingo

[frail bloom]

I just don't care abt that

Oh well

[hollow sandal]

Meh

[cinder estuary]

TDA had lower budget than eternal, I'm really confident on that

[empty sable]

Then the game is even more impressive lol

[frail bloom]

What was eternals?

[vital rapids]

It doesn't look worse than any other health bar in a game. It's not misaligned. It's a bit of a nothingy criticism for me

[frail bloom]

He was ranting abt colors earlier

[cinder estuary]

Yes and no, because the lighting is all RTX

[empty sable]

Anybody know anything about when master levels are coming?

[hollow sandal]

Probably gonna be a little while

[cinder estuary]

The marketing was also way less prevalent, which is also a major budget sink

The game had like, half the marketing

[frail bloom]

Didn't they do a wrestemania promo

[vital rapids]

I love the way there's the good old slow moving neon green projectiles like the old days. Real men's projectiles

[cinder estuary]

Did they?

Me not knowing just goes to show lol

[hollow sandal]

Lol

[frail bloom]

Muh immersion in a sci-fi medieval shooter

[cinder estuary]

I barely saw any trailers and media for this game until it was really close to release

Also 70 bucks games ffs

[frail bloom]

Yes they did

[cinder estuary]

This game's problems are all everything except the game itself

Too expensive
Too hard to to run
Weird marketing strategies

I still think 70 bucks for this game is wild

Even if I really like it

[empty sable]

This guy's a full blown hater.

[cinder estuary]

Bro Ive been playing this game nonstop everyday

I love the game, but Im not blind

70 USD for less content than expedition 33

And I don't even like expedition 33

[empty sable]

I knew about this game since June 2024 so I'm not sure where you were lol

[cinder estuary]

I knew about this game ever since Hugo said their next game was gonna make you feel like a tank back in 2020

[ocean arrow]

https://youtu.be/t5ES_s32kPg?si=Y_K4dLBlRyETVIZ1 did a thing

[frail bloom]

I mean he is right

[cinder estuary]

TDA would be a 10/10 game for 60 USD

And that's me being generous

[frail bloom]

Ye I agree

[cinder estuary]

It should cost 50 bucks at most with just the campaign

[shrewd mountain]

Why are we comparing doom to expedition 33

[cinder estuary]

It would have sold a lot better as well

[frail bloom]

Eh it's a longer campaign, eternal was 60

[shrewd mountain]

Theres upcoming dlc and post launch content

[frail bloom]

Wasn't 2016 also 60?

[cinder estuary]

Price per hour of content

[frail bloom]

Oh but it had snapmap and multiplayer

[shrewd mountain]

"Price per hour of content" the content is hella fun, I dont need red dead 2 content to make doom fun

[empty sable]

Many people claim they can still run it despite the forced RT. The price is alarming don't get me wrong and likely a huge mistake. The fact that it was gamepass just solidifies people not wanting to purchase it outright. I saw plenty of ads for this game though so not sure.

[vital rapids]

I think the game would be a massive success at a normal price, it was too expensive
Rt not so much, can't get a GPU from the last 3 generations without RT old computers are old

[shrewd mountain]

Id say you are paying for the graphics jump more than anything

[cinder estuary]

I agree, rdr2 is 60 hours of nothing

But doom tda is not worth 70 bucks

[shrewd mountain]

Story was peak but gameplay was okay

[cinder estuary]

Bait

[shrewd mountain]

I paid 140$ for the game, and collectors edition

[frail bloom]

The quieter marketing does not make the game bad but people just didn't engage with tda as much

[shrewd mountain]

What's wrong with rdr2

Damn, people cant enjoy games smh

[vital rapids]

There is no, repeat NO reason PC owners should expect to run brand new FPS titles well without upgrading even once every 3 generations

[empty sable]

People often say a premium price for a premium game. I just think we should have stayed at $60 because we have deluxe and premium editions galore.

[frail bloom]

Expecting it to run on a 1080 is silly tho

Like real silly

[cinder estuary]

I feel like this game had low sales on PC due to weird marketing strategy + exceedingly high price for just the campaign

[frail bloom]

Ye some master levels and a horde mode?? Would be so awesome

[cinder estuary]

This game should've had blockbuster level sales, but 70 bucks is a price most games don't want to pay for any game

[frail bloom]

But those come later rather at release

[shrewd mountain]

Either way 3 million on launch, its still their best succeeding game

[cinder estuary]

Also a reason why this game was insanely popular on gamepass

[shrewd mountain]

Even if most of it is gamepass, its still generating them more money

[cinder estuary]

3 mil players is not the same as 3 mil sales

[shrewd mountain]

Even if 1 million players bought the game, 70 x a million is 70,000,000

[cinder estuary]

3 mil players for 10 bucks is a net negative

[shrewd mountain]

Its still a financial success either way

[empty sable]

I used a third-party seller to get a discount for my pre-order so it helped the cost a little. Doesn't negate the fact the price was high lol

[vital rapids]

Oh are we doing this

[frail bloom]

It probably reached a million sales with like 70% of those sales most likely standard price, 20% premium and 9% collecters with like the 1% buying the real expensive stuff

[shrewd mountain]

I dont think u get how gamepass works

[cinder estuary]

We don't know if it's a financial success

It's a popular game, obviously, but most of it is gamepass, both PC and xbox

[shrewd mountain]

3 million on launch is successful regardless if its not full sales

[frail bloom]

2.2 mil on gamepass

[cinder estuary]

We don't have exact gamepass numbers.

[shrewd mountain]

Xbox pays them a lump sum for having it a day 1 launch

[cinder estuary]

But most of it is gamepass, yeah

[shrewd mountain]

And 3 million made it a success

[limber onyx]

We need a master campaign or NG+

[vital rapids]

Clearly a console game, and a gamepass loss leader to drive subscriptions on PC. It's naive to think they were relying on PC sales on any way

[frail bloom]

I ain't talking abt gamepass just exclusively bought
#the-dark-ages message

[shrewd mountain]

If Xbox paid for day 1 gamepass and it didn't succeed, Xbox would be the one struggling

[cinder estuary]

I agree with this

[limber onyx]

I was doing other stuff so what are we talking aboot?

[frail bloom]

Some bought premiums and collectors, probably like 30% maybe?

[cinder estuary]

Bte they are now putting TDA on sale if you have gamepass

[frail bloom]

Or maybe 20%

[shrewd mountain]

They got paid by Xbox to have the game on gamepass, and 3 million players at launch made it a success regardless, and even if a small amount of players bought it, it still gained them more money than any other doom game because of the high base price

[hollow sandal]

TDA

[shrewd mountain]

Either way its a success you cannot deny that

[limber onyx]

But sales, value? Seems I missed something

[shrewd mountain]

They made their money, and it had a great player count, they are 100% making more doom games

And they aren't caving in and doing another doom eternal just to get good with TDA haters

[empty sable]

Yes, that is already confirmed by them.

[frail bloom]

I wonder what they'll do

[shrewd mountain]

Fighting over pc sales is silly

[cinder estuary]

I don't think they got more money because of sale, but because MS probably gave them a massive bonus to make it be a gamepass game

[shrewd mountain]

Samurai doom 🙏 betting my money on it

[limber onyx]

Anyways, before I leave I just wanted to say that Doom 2016 and Eternal were great to the extent it inspired an entire FPS subgenra in Boomer Shooters that have come to surpass the source material. So TDA was a disappoiting game, it was not anything I wanted or that anyone wanted for that matter.

[frail bloom]

How?

[shrewd mountain]

Yes but Xbox got their money back most likely

[frail bloom]

Argent dnur went through a feudal period lol

[shrewd mountain]

They are gonna continue to invest in doom

[hollow sandal]

Where you Goin?

[empty sable]

Katana blade to vanquish demons. That's how.

[frail bloom]

No like how does that make sense lore wise

[cinder estuary]

Next doom game will be bad, that's how they are gonna make it different

[shrewd mountain]

Oni styled demons and samurai armor doomslayer 🙏🙏🙏

[frail bloom]

You think so?

[empty sable]

He took the wrong portal like Geralt and ended up in an alternate timeline lol

[limber onyx]

I am going to the dreaded outside to be a productive member of society, so is the destiny of the wagies.

[shrewd mountain]

Make it like, set in even more distant future

[frail bloom]

Bros what abt the civil war

[cinder estuary]

Unironically, I think MS and Zeni will start to slopify Doom a lot

[shrewd mountain]

Or we will get more sentinel era doom games for a while

Im betting thats the route they are going with

[cinder estuary]

I want a doom game not about the slayer

[frail bloom]

They said they wanted more medieval stories

[shrewd mountain]

Play doom 3

[empty sable]

I'm hoping for a sequel and for us to keep the shield.

[frail bloom]

I don't wanna nerf myself

[cinder estuary]

Do you think Vallen is weak?

[shrewd mountain]

They also hinted at a TV show or anime

[frail bloom]

Compared to the slayer? Yes.

[hollow sandal]

Fuckin rip xd have a good day bro

[cinder estuary]

But Im confident he is pretty strong compared to a demon

[limber onyx]

I want a game set after Doom 64 that is an odyssey through hell and its separate areas according to the lore of several religions, basically every hell is canon. From the greek one to the one described in Korean texts and Islam. The game ends when you find the sentinels after defeating a massive demon lord.

[frail bloom]

Hugo also wanted a frickin comic but look how that turned out

[shrewd mountain]

Hugo promising stuff and not delivering

[frail bloom]

Just make a slayers testaments game then

Takes place after the deag betrayal but before 2016

[shrewd mountain]

TDA is like, barely the surface of the testaments

[frail bloom]

Ye thanks hugo

[shrewd mountain]

At most its the "he sought vengeance against the dark lords"

And thats how far we went testaments wise

[shrewd mountain]

Personally I want the dlcs to be part of this

[frail bloom]

Bro they take eons of time

[shrewd mountain]

If they make a new doom game i want it to be set in hell

[limber onyx]

No I mean after Doom 64, we are still Doom Guy, not the slayer. I want the tale of how the Doom Marine arrived to the Sentinel wolrd and a sequel that details the events that lead him to his evolution into the Slayer.

[frail bloom]

Eh

[limber onyx]

Lore wise everything after Eternal main campaign was a mistake.

[empty sable]

Looks like that is where the dlc is taking us.

[shrewd mountain]

What does this mean?

[frail bloom]

I'd say next game is the civil war, after that is the slayers testaments

[shrewd mountain]

I want the dlc to be the civil war and then end with the betrayal

[limber onyx]

As much as I love the DLC levels, the story in The Ancient Gods is goofy.

[frail bloom]

But then we miss the nekravol discovery

[shrewd mountain]

Its okay, not too bad

[frail bloom]

Too early man

[night quest]

Is it bad I have no idea what your talking about?

[shrewd mountain]

Maybe itll start with the title card explaining they found nekroval

[frail bloom]

They rushed it with eternal lets not repeat the same mistake here

[shrewd mountain]

It was covid ofc it was rushed

[frail bloom]

Let the story blossom naturally

[shrewd mountain]

They have deadlines and they weren't in office

[frail bloom]

At least it needs more levels to compensate

For such an important time period

[shrewd mountain]

I just hope the marauders return but not fully demonic

[limber onyx]

The story from the Eternal Dlcs. The lore entries are also pretty lousy. It was about this super demon lord that created the cosmos and.... you know what even doing a summary is giving me a headache so go play that that and tell me how did you like it.

[shrewd mountain]

Just human but still loyal to the khan

[frail bloom]

That happens in the civil war, whether we fight them or see them is to be determined

At least the demonic portion

[limber onyx]

I miss the Marauder, that was a cool enemy

[shrewd mountain]

Its not too hard to understand, davoth is the creator, the makyrs stole his power

[night quest]

Oh you mean with Davoth or whatever the hell his name was?

[shrewd mountain]

The only thing I did not like was the fact davoth looked like the slayer somehow

[frail bloom]

bc it was rushed

[shrewd mountain]

Or the slayer ended up looking like davoth? I hate that its so messy

[limber onyx]

There is more to it, like the wraiths the guys who are not makyrs but look like them. Samuel Hayden retconed into a makyr, there is a ton of stuff in the DLCs story wise that is pretty terrible.

[frail bloom]

Hugo says this, hugo says that, but that decision was rushed at the end of the day

[shrewd mountain]

Everything else is fine,
We already knew vega was the father
And the seraphim reveal was obv from the flashback

Saying "the dlcs ruined hayden" is dumb cause he was revealed to be the seraphim in the main campaign, just less explicit

[shrewd mountain]

The wraiths have been in doom since 2016

[limber onyx]

Doomguy looks like Davoth for he was made in his image and I need an explanation why the Devil made a guy designed to especifically beat his realm and why the hell was Davoth against Doomguy killing the Khan Makyr when it was all according to his "plan"

[shrewd mountain]

We only got confirmation they were cosmic in origin

[shrewd mountain]

Samuel was a makyr since eternals main campaign

Hell it could be argued it was teased in 2016

[limber onyx]

That is right and they are older than Davoth, so why does Davoth take credit for the creation of the cosmos?

[shrewd mountain]

The voice "nooo" wasn't davoth

[limber onyx]

I mean the entire thing could be explained by Davoth being the devil and therefor an unrelaible narrator but it is all confusing.

[shrewd mountain]

Theres potentially beings above davoth

[frail bloom]

Ye the no voice is not davoth

[limber onyx]

Someone did not play Eternal post the DLC patch...

[shrewd mountain]

When does he take credit for that?

[vital rapids]

Because Davoth is not a person of truth and integrity

[frail bloom]

No seriously that isn't him

[shrewd mountain]

Its confirmed to not be davoth

We've known this

[limber onyx]

The subtitles say Dark Lord. Who else could it be? That was patched in the game after TAG2.

[frail bloom]

Ye it was a mistake

[limber onyx]

Before it said unknown voice or something, now it says Dark Lord.

[frail bloom]

Now??

It says dark lord now??

[limber onyx]

Yes, I replayed the game some time ago.

[frail bloom]

When.

[shrewd mountain]

In the last mission the subtitle "ancient gods" is still there, but they are just seraphs, not the ancient gods

I'M PLAYING IT RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF YALL ARE RIGHT OR WRONG

[limber onyx]

Well past year around November when the new arena level dropped to showcase IdStudio

[shrewd mountain]

Im testing it on the current version

[frail bloom]

Bruh

[shrewd mountain]

It might take me a while ima use cheats

[frail bloom]

Someone check

[shrewd mountain]

Im so used to TDA booting up eternal is weird to me

[limber onyx]

This is the launch version:

https://youtu.be/9uYcbfgaH78?si=aqyaUxSH9s1qcFzL Mysterious Voice: Noooooo

[frail bloom]

Ye we knew that

[shrewd mountain]

Im testing it rn ill let you know what it says

[frail bloom]

Last time I checked, they had it say dark lord at some point, then reverted it

No way they reverted it another time

[limber onyx]

Yeah it was reverted just check, what, why did they do that? I have so many quesitons

[frail bloom]

But that means it went from ???>Dark lord>???>dark lord

[shrewd mountain]

IM CHECKING GIMME A SEC

[limber onyx]

So, who the hell was screaming?

[frail bloom]

[shrewd mountain]

Being above davoth

[frail bloom]

Both of you are suspiscious

"Creaming"

[limber onyx]

This is from 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9y6J2Wb7Pw

[frail bloom]

I saw what you said Yoink

[shrewd mountain]

Mistype

[limber onyx]

LOL

[frail bloom]

It says mysterious voice

[shrewd mountain]

I hate this level

[limber onyx]

Yeah it said Dark Lord before, I did not know it was reverted. What an odd thing to do?

[shrewd mountain]

SAMUEL WONT SHUT THE DARN UP

[frail bloom]

You said it was dark lord recently tho

[limber onyx]

The intro sucks but I like the arenas of this level.

[frail bloom]

It being mysterious makes more sense anyways

[limber onyx]

Well it was, I did not know it was changed to mysterious voice again, when did this happen

[frail bloom]

So it changed like 3 times lol

[limber onyx]

Well now it is a f* mysterious voice now, isn't it? This is why no one wanted more story in a Doom game, they need actual writers. I know for a fact they have worked with Todd McFarlane before, just hire him.

[frail bloom]

Or 4 actually

[frail bloom]

Well it was a mysterious voice on launch sooooooo nothing changed really

[shrewd mountain]

I like story in doom

[frail bloom]

They just had some hiccups in between

[limber onyx]

Well any idea whose voice was that? nearby imp stepping on a lego?

[shrewd mountain]

In my knowledge theres only 1 plothole

[frail bloom]

Nope, no one knows, tbd

[shrewd mountain]

That is how tf the sentinels got to immora without the crystal

[shrewd mountain]

Hugo implied it was beings above davoth

[frail bloom]

There are higher beings, whoever they are, idk

I guess they'll expand on with later games

Assuming they still release games later

[frail bloom]

Tbf we have always had to make interpretative leaps in doom, from classic to 64, like the hell knight and baron infighting

[shrewd mountain]

Yea a lot is unsaid

But it won't work any other way

[limber onyx]

Slayer unlocked fast travel

[shrewd mountain]

There's also if the slayer can age or not

[limber onyx]

I genuinlly want a Heretic / Hexen reboot. I am still hoping for a remaster announcement this Quakecon.

[shrewd mountain]

In TDA hes not eons old yet, in 2016 he looks like hes probably in his mid 30s, in eternal he looks like hes way older

[frail bloom]

That would be a job for nightdive studio my goats

[shrewd mountain]

Yet its like
TDA (eons in between) 2016 (15 years) eternal

[limber onyx]

I assume the Divinity machine kept him a live when he became the slayer. So his time as Doomguy among the sentinels must had been very brief.

[frail bloom]

2016? We never saw his face

You mean tda?

[shrewd mountain]

His model is shown

[frail bloom]

His model also looks nothing like any iteration of doomguy lol

[shrewd mountain]

It could be retconned

[frail bloom]

It was dude he looked like a thumb

[shrewd mountain]

He looks like his name is Paul or some shit

[frail bloom]

A thumb with hair

[shrewd mountain]

Check screenshots

[frail bloom]

I did

Ew

[shrewd mountain]

Theres also the quake champions doom marine

Which also doesnt look exactly like the slayer in TDA, but more like his classic version

[ebon moon]

Whit s 6750xt how much fps I could get at 1080p

[shrewd mountain]

No idea why they didn't use that face model

[frail bloom]

It's a bit exaggarrated

Bit too blocky

[versed stone]

Has anyone tried running Doom: The Dark Ages on Mint Linux?

[frail bloom]

Would be hard to take seriously

[shrewd mountain]

Hes so hot in TDA (coming from a heterosexual)

[limber onyx]

well cya nerds, later

[shrewd mountain]

Im still proving you rong

Rong wtf i hate my autocorrect

[frail bloom]

Rong wong wong

Song gong wong rong rong

[shrewd mountain]

MOMENT OF TRUTH

[oblique raft]

is there hell gate mod

[shrewd mountain]

That pfp is a mood fr

HAH IM RIGHT

@limber onyx NANANANA IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG

[frail bloom]

It's mysterious voice?

[oblique raft]

i sad 2016 doom armor in hell gate in doom dark ages on yt

[shrewd mountain]

yes I have proof

[frail bloom]

We already knew that lol

[shrewd mountain]

Check screenshits

[frail bloom]

He wasn't too happy abt it either way

I believe you but he didn't like that it was changed so much

At the end of the day it is not davoth

[hushed cave]

the slayer is soooo hot in tda

[cinder estuary]

Same shit, proton does the work

If anything, Linux might run better than windows.

[violet lynx]

help i started doom eternal and its just a black screen'

[versed stone]

It still doesn’t work with some anti cheats.

So no Fortnite on Linux. Better off playing that on Switch 2 in that case.

[tough sky]

Very excited for path tracing tomorrow. It will be my 7th run through the game

[versed stone]

More like single digit FPS mode.

[tough sky]

I’m sorry about your pc

[craggy lagoon]

Does this channel allow spoilers for the dark ages?

[fathom remnant]

Just a quick random tidbit, if anyone is seeing 99% and can't seem to figure out why you can't 100 it. one thing it can very well be is a life sigil, you have to go physically find those because they do count as a secret. There most likely is levels where that isn't the case but it's something I just picked up on watching a YouTuber who proved what I said about it counting.

[foggy breach]

Is Eligas The Wise (big ol' creature in the background of the Abyssal Forest) taller and bigger than Maligog?

[cinder estuary]

Fortnite is not on steam

If a game is on steam, it works

[cinder estuary]

What's path tracing

[versed stone]

Apex is on Steam, but it uses Kernal anti-cheat which doesn't work on Linux.

[spark elm]

I realized there’s no imp enemy emoji…

[dark peak]

has this game the same mastery weapons system from eternal/d16? i mean having to do things to get the mastery

[real lynx]

No

[icy rapids]

Is there a way to buy the soundtrack album directly from Finishing Move without Id getting any royalties?

I like the soundtrack and I have nothing against the composers but I'm really hating the way Id treated Mick so I'm not supporting them until Stratton does something to make right, preferably leaving.

[storm oriole]

ray tracing on crack

[foggy breach]

Serratt was a real one, homeboy didn't care about going into the Cosmic Realm if it meant being with the Slayer. (I know Serratt doesn't go in but he tried to at the end of "From Beyond")

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-dragon-serrat-gif-3877859067500563729

[empty sable]

Besides Doomguy, Serrat was the best character in Dark Ages.

We may know more at QuakeCon. It's in August. Would be nice if they released master levels and gave a rough estimate of dlc. That is just wishful thinking.

Exact date is August 7th through 10th.

[dark thunder]

They are teasing master levels on the doom twitter, 3 cyberdemon encounter

[empty sable]

Not even 2 months away lol

[dark thunder]

are we deadass

I missed that

[solid nacelle]

In 5 seconds

[twilit pumice]

When the earth explodes

[glossy hound]

Can anyone who owns the game Doom The Dark Ages help me rip weapon sounds? for a Doom 2 mod.

I don't have the possibility to play it.

[mental grotto]

Tomorrow (source: I am Marty Stratton)

[cinder estuary]

Fair

[dark thunder]

doom dlc comes out and ww3 starts the day before

[glossy hound]

Did you escape from the circus?

[wild rose]

I find it useless practically

Hell if I say it on reddit I'll be crucified but Doom Eternal fanbase is so insufferable. It's probably the worst I've seen they think their game is perfect and immune to criticism

It's full of wannabe elitists who just got into Doom and think they know something

[earnest swift]

Anyone who says any game is immune to criticism should take a hike.

[wild rose]

They'll stare you in the eye and say with a serious face classic Doom was as colorful as Eternal

[earnest swift]

And to be frank I feel a similar aroma in the air with "Clair Obscur".

[wild rose]

I don't know this game

[earnest swift]

Do they actually?

[wild rose]

No. Classic Doom is a pretty dark game. It might be colorful but it's dark not bright

[earnest swift]

I meant do they actually say that?

[wild rose]

It always has this apocalyptic feel

[earnest swift]

I’ve played the classics.

[wild rose]

It's so common

Everytime I criticize Eternal for being too colorful someone always comes with this argument

[lusty oracle]

i just dleted all my save files and did a new playthrough and bought all the stuff for the berserker trophy at once and it still didnt work?

why isnt it working i thought they fixed it

[twilit pumice]

I always take it as them being too dense to realize how colorfully dark Classic Doom is. Hell, Doom 64 is maybe just as colorful as Classic Doom whilst being darker.

Classic Doom isn't arcady.
Like seriously who thought the Doom Eternal cyberdemon looks good and properly represented the Classic Cyberdemon.

[lusty oracle]

i just tried it again its not working?

do i have to beat the game or somethnig cause i got to chapter 16

[split gate]

The math ain’t mathing bro

[lusty oracle]

can anyone answer me or?

[mint bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-walking-gun-gif-6971347467128966329

[lusty oracle]

ok what do i do?

u didnt

yes with you

scroll up a little and u will see my first msg

whats this server even for i need help and this dude is literally useless

trust me i did that

they said they fixed the berserker trophy and im asking why isnt it working and i got some dumbass tryna be funny

[twilit pumice]

Habu, Dios acts like that normally.
I'd honestly not waste your time with him.

[lusty oracle]

got it

[inner wigeon]

Deadass though

[lusty oracle]

if he always acts like this then thats super embaressing so might aswell block this useless loser

[foggy breach]

🍿

[warm ibex]

If you're on PS5 then the achievement is still bugged. They're aware of the issue and working on a patch, it should unlock automatically once the update is pushed out

[lusty oracle]

so they only fixed it on steam thats dumb

[inner wigeon]

“Why write a book when you can use chat gpt” logic

[lusty oracle]

i just got a update and updated it and still didnt work

[inner wigeon]

So what

[lusty oracle]

i even deleted all my saved files and made a whole new playthrough bought it all in one go and still didnt work

[wild rose]

Doom Eternal's Cyberdemon probably gives me the weirdest feeling of the series. He's weird. He almost looks cute but he's... Kinda ugly? And he isn't scary, he's just big. His face looks like a villain I could see in a Stitch Disney movie

[lusty oracle]

damn thats kinda embaressing such a simple trophy being bugged for over a month

[warm ibex]

That was a separate patch that fixed visual issues

[lusty oracle]

bruh

[wild rose]

You go to #community-support not people in all channels know how to help you

[wild rose]

It's not fixed on PS

[wild rose]

Hey you around here

[foggy breach]

His face reminds me of a pug.

[lusty oracle]

this is so stupid

[warm ibex]

Not knowing how to spell embarrassing is embarrassing

[inner wigeon]

Analogy genius, just because there’s a better option doesn’t mean you should eliminate the previous

[lusty oracle]

its called typing fast lol

i can care less and you know what i meant so why should igaf

[wild rose]

The entire sub is like that about you bruh

[foggy breach]

🍿

[wild rose]

You're 14

I know everything I need to

[warm ibex]

We should totally drop it an move on

[lavish kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-fight-pelea-monos-cuchillos-gif-13300071

[inner wigeon]

And so is generating an entire book, but people still write right?

[indigo sandal]

Man, the dark ages kinda sucks compared to eternal. Was decent tho

[inner wigeon]

I like dark ages more personally

Eternal was better but dark ages felt more fun, which is entirely subjective

[foggy breach]

I think all 3 doom games are great.

[stoic forge]

When it thinks it is overheating it shuts off and keeps shutting off. This can happen the first time you start it in the day.

[inner wigeon]

They got mad at you because you responded in an extremely corny and consonsending way

[indigo sandal]

I do like 2016

O well. I tried. More ultrakill it is

[stoic forge]

I like how TDA feels a bit like old doom with its wide engagement areas

[inner wigeon]

Why didn’t you just say you didn’t know the answer? Man wasn’t in the mood for corny jokes, no need to continue the conversation after that

Discord beef gif

Why don’t we just drop this

You didn’t know how he felt and caused an argument and it’s ok we all live and hug in the end yayyy

[warm ibex]

Come on man

[inner wigeon]

Well good for him anyways what’s your favorite weapon in tda

Dopeeeeeee

[warm ibex]

what about you?

[inner wigeon]

Also the super shotgun, I use a shotgun in every fps I play

[warm ibex]

hell yeah

[inner wigeon]

Chaingun??? In tda???

OHHH the chainshot

[foggy breach]

Shredder is my favorite.

[inner wigeon]

24

SHREEDER ISSS AIGHTTTTTT

It does good when you’re shooting a chainshielded enemies

[foggy breach]

I use it for the pincushion.

[twilit pumice]

That and ricochet through my use.

[twilit pumice]

And armored demons occasionally.
Doom TDA arsenal is my favorite amongst nu doom. Nothing in our arsenal is bad

[lavish kindle]

C'mon guys label your units 🙄

[warm comet]

How it feels to use ssg for every encounter and be rewarded for it:😊😇🌅🌄

[twilit pumice]

I do need to use SSG more.
And chainshot.

Found myself preferring combat shotgun and Impaler for most of the game.
Course, I'd use every gun to my disposal. Except those two mentioned.

Armor and excellent AoE clear of fodder through tune up and blast upgrades. Shoot and kill one fodder to set off a chain reaction of demons exploding.
I used impaler for the bigger demons.

[wild rose]

How do you even use combat shotgun!?

[wild rose]

I mean just throw shield

[warm comet]

Combat shotguns got the scorch and that enough was a reason for me to swap over to it every now and then in the middle of encounters.

[twilit pumice]

That's one way, yes. But I have my own ways of handling combat

[wild rose]

My problem is just super shotgun. It has no flaws, but all your other weapons have flaws which makes you feel suboptimal when using them

[wild rose]

I tend to just grab armor via map. My problem with shotty is I'm prolonging fights and this will cost me more life than give armor

[warm comet]

Not me im goated at traversal and avoiding damage🗣

[twilit pumice]

I never felt suboptimal using impaler on cyberdemon. Or Ravager with Komodo. Or accelerator/cycler against Revenant.

[twilit pumice]

Maybe nightmare would change that but I doubt it

[wild rose]

Impaler is great, but you need to use your shield constantly and it's not that great against an armored enemy. An armored Arachnotron will damage you before you destroy it. Against a Vagary you'll need to spam shield throw if she isn't shooting green balls.

Accelerator has great DPS, but it's not great against armor and it's not good to kill fodder or big imps. Like SSG deal with them much better, Revenant too

Skull Crusher is better against armor but not as good as SSG.

Chainshot needs to charge if you aren't parryng

[warm comet]

Why would anybody ever be fighting at a distance where spread is an issue in a game where you can shield bash to close distance immediately?

[wild rose]

The problem are the armored enemies with those. Most weapons with insane DPS and fire rate are bad against armor, except SSG

In this game most the time we're in short range, it's a game about parry and melee after all

[wild rose]

It does. Using weapons that take longer to destroy armor makes a difference. Mainly against an Arachnotron who you can't defend yourself from while attacking

[warm comet]

If somebody actually told me they stray away from shotguns in any doom game cuz of the spread, I'd be so confused

Because how are you ever that far away from an enemy you're fighting in a doom game

[wild rose]

Exactly.

[twilit pumice]

I mean, if I'm fighting an armored demon I'll switch off to shredder to destroy their armor.

Impaler doesn't only amp up through shield throws. Parries and shield bash amp it up too.

Honestly, Slayer. Doom TDA allows you to play both the ways we individually choose.

[wild rose]

It's not enough

[wild rose]

Switching in some scenarios have cost. And that's when the SSG problem comes in, you don't need to switch ever.

And I know how Impaler works, but sometimes when you want to use it ranged or the enemy isn't attacking you need to spam shield, and if you want it ranged you don't want to use shield bash. I have this situation frequently against the Vagary.

[warm comet]

Its like, technically a flaw, but its canceled out by the fact you'll never be affected by it. Like, at that point you're just not playing effectively.

[wild rose]

Wdym?

[warm comet]

Oh, I was responding to dio. Him talking about ssg flaw

[wild rose]

Oh indeed

Imo the way of balancing SSG would be if it was bad against armor

And I also think rocket should make higher damage to armor

[twilit pumice]

Slow-mo triggers through nearly all shield use and melee.
If I need to switch off to another gun, just trigger slow-mo.

I don't think I ever use impaler at ranged distance.

[wild rose]

You mean parry stun?

[wild rose]

I'm not saying you can't, I'm saying it's a design flaw. You're not used to SSG, but people like me don't ever feel the need to switch it like you do with the Impaler, for example

You use the Impaler you feel the need to switch to destroy armor. Same thing with Skull and Plasma. But SSG doesn't

If the SSG needed 2 shots to fully heat an armor it'd be a lot more fun

[twilit pumice]

What was parry stun again?
Been a few weeks since I last played TDA. So I've forgotten some terms.
Played through both 2016 and Eternal after beating TDA. On break from Doom atm with Atomic Heart.

[wild rose]

Well it's when you parry and the enemy gets an yellow circle in their head, meaning you can use melee freely or even switch guns. If you switch between a parry but the circle isn't there you'll likely get hit

[wild rose]

How is Atomic Heart tho? I saw they're already making a second. Crazy. I guess this came came a year and half ago

[twilit pumice]

Yeah, that's what I'm sorta referring to.

[twilit pumice]

Pretty good. Prolly one of my favorite games.
Love the story to death. Themes of technology outadvancing humanity, and performing evil through acts of good. Alongside the mutli layered unraveling story.
OST is incredible.

I believe Atomic Heart came out in 2023

[wild rose]

Wait really?

But how's the gameplay? Something like cod? Halo? Doom? I've seen little of it (although I know much about the story)

[honest vortex]

Wait are you calling the flail useless?

[frank turtle]

what's up fellow doomers

[merry sapphire]

anyone got any idea what time is the PT update is dropping today?

[warm comet]

I should really give 2016 a fighting chance. Try and get past the early game and see if like it

[honest vortex]

I agree tbh. Their opinion is all "fact and superior and objective"

If you disagree they think you're subhuman or deeply wrong mentally or something

[merry sapphire]

you gotta

lowkey tho i never finished my first playthrough cause the game got too repetitive #TBH. finished it in my second playthrough tho and loved it then

Yeah What time Man

[warm comet]

The issue is that the beginning of the game is so boring for me that I just clock out and open eternal or tda

[frank turtle]

I try to look at each doom game as it's their own experience since they're all pretty different from each other.cone isn't really better than the other if you prefer a different style of gameplay

[merry sapphire]

it kinda is since ive reached like level 6 and never continued it. played it a year later on a new save file from start to finish

[merry sapphire]

ngl just goes to show how much better eternal and TDA is in how much they improved on the core gameplay of 2016. thats why i cant really go back to it now

alright man 👍

[warm comet]

What an utterly pointless distinction to make. A playthrough can be in progress or halted.

[frank turtle]

playing ultra nightmare on ultra nightmare motion blur

[warm comet]

People say all the time "yeah I tried it but ended my playthrough here"
What would you call it other than a playthrough.

[merry sapphire]

do you not know what the word through means

[warm comet]

"Erm actually" in human form

[merry sapphire]

and you do realize a process can be halted right

[warm comet]

"If you didn't finish the playthrough then its not a playthrough." Like twin if you dont just engage the topic at hand and stop being difficult

[frank turtle]

this might be a dumb question, but would fov effect the fps on console, or is it capped at 60

[merry sapphire]

fov affects fps in general, so i assume they locked it on console on 60 fps to maintain stability

[frank turtle]

Ok thanks

[median moat]

Will there be pvp in this game and skins like they did with eternal?

[frank turtle]

I tried messing around with the fov and it didn't seem to make a noticeable difference

[merry sapphire]

i dont think there is going to be any form of a multiplayer mode. same goes for skins due to them only making recolors instead of actual modeled skins

[median moat]

What's your graphics card

[median moat]

Pitty

[hard thistle]

Just replayed Siege, I’m on Pandemonium (Modified) and it’s so damn good! If there were any level in the game that needs a Master Level treatment first, it’s Siege Parts I and II!

[merry sapphire]

console

[median moat]

What type

[wild rose]

I exaggerated

[merry sapphire]

if the game offers fov for console, its probably going to still be capped at 60 fps. cause stability

[merry sapphire]

probably a ps5 to be real

[median moat]

I love this game but I feel like It lacks soul or something, idk

Great game tho, only thing I play rn

[wild rose]

They'll also complain about Doom core mechanics when talking about TDA. I saw a dude complaining how in TDA you aren't forced to use weapons and mods, and apparently he doesn't know classic Doom is like that

[merry sapphire]

this is probably the most soulful game because its the one with the most clear vision. love how they didnt make eternal 2 and went on to an entirely new unique direction

[median moat]

Then there's no problem with graphics, I have one and It's a great jump from previous consoles

[merry sapphire]

too bad that thing got no games on it

[median moat]

I feel they could have done more with the music and weapons

Sometimes it feels like eternal with a medieval mask on top

[wild rose]

We got remakes like no one 🏆

[median moat]

Again, I love It tho

[frank turtle]

why do they gotta change the "use" button, I always get it mixed up

[wild rose]

You can say it feels like Doom with a medieval mask, but not Eternal

[median moat]

As a ps5 owner, no body cares 😮‍💨🥀

[frank turtle]

as a xbox owner, xbox is getting cucked

[median moat]

Tbh Only played the omd trilogy and eternal

[merry sapphire]

i love the music but thats a personal preference honestly. the weapons here though feel so much better than eternal. especially the reaver chainshot and the skull weapons. feel so good to use

[wild rose]

Right? I was playing 2016 little ago and I was pressing circle in the levers

[wild rose]

Why? You guys got gamepass. I thought it was a big thing

[merry sapphire]

ps5 sales dropping? ANOTHER 500 BILLION DOLLARS TO GAME REMAKES DEVELOPMENT 🔥

[median moat]

Yeah, but they go back to the same plasma gun, there's no mechanic with the supper shotty. The impaler Is the sniper rifle with another model, etc.

[wild rose]

Except they don't feel good enough because they made SSG too OP

[warm comet]

How it feels to use steam:🌄🌅

[wild rose]

I'll die on this hill

[wild rose]

TIME TO DEVELOP PS6 OR A NEW PS5 VERSION

[merry sapphire]

ssg is not that crazy of a weapon even. not even using it on my ultra nightmare. alot of weapons can outclass the ssg in this game

[median moat]

I really feel like you can kill demons with any gun and combo pretty much the same tbh

[wild rose]

YOU'LL GET TO PLAY TLOU2 AND RDRT2 ON 120 FPS 🔥🔥🔥

[wild rose]

How? Which?

[wild rose]

You can, SSG just does it faster most the time without the need to switch

[median moat]

It Is, I don't share his opinion tbh

[merry sapphire]

well yeah cause the game isnt focused on weapon switching. its movement, positioning, parrying, blocking, melee, and your main damage dealer (a weapon you like) (keep in mind though that some weapons are better in certain situations, its just that you are not incentivized as much compared to doom eternal)

[median moat]

I own a ps5, xbox and pc and xbox and pc are wayyyy better

[frank turtle]

xbox just doesn't really have exclusives

[median moat]

Yes, I am blessed

[frank turtle]

game pass is amazing

[merry sapphire]

funny enough, the combat shotgun is actually way better, it deals pretty good damage and can make you an unkillable armor fiend with its upgrades. also has some p good range for a shotgun

[median moat]

Gamepass Is all It needs, PS plus has games nobody cares abt fr

[wild rose]

SSG got crazy damage, good fire rate, can one shot or 2 shot many demons, it breaks armor, shoots fast

In comparison to Accelerator, Impaler and Ravager who have great DPS but suffer against armor

[twilit pumice]

Gameplay it's kinda like bioshock, but has scavenging focus and puzzles.
Like scavenging through robots, corpses, and buildings for components to make your ammo, health, stat boosters, and ammo mods.
I believe you naturally get skill points through scavenging your dead opponents.

[wild rose]

I disagree. Its damage sucks, it takes too long to kill just a Mancubus, which SSG does in 2 shots

[merry sapphire]

yeah, the damage is crazy. but thats really it. it doesnt have range, making it a worse weapon for certain enemies/bosses. it doesnt give you anything else

[twilit pumice]

Have to find blueprints and materials to make your stuff. Including your weapons and weapon mods

[frank turtle]

for being a doom fan, gamepass is actually amazing cause it literally has every doom game

[wild rose]

The only enemy that it struggles against is Vagary. And you can pretty much use it against all bosses

[merry sapphire]

did you try using the triple shot shotgun fully upgraded? it does some good damage. obviously not as much as an ssg blast, but with the range and armor it gives you, its much better for situations in general. its carrying me through ultra nightmare right now

[frank turtle]

the combat shotgun triple shot with both armor upgrades is really helpful on pandemonium and un

[merry sapphire]

ironically its actually pretty good against vagary for its wide arch and armor damage bonus. making you break the armor pretty fast and chain multiple falter opportunities

[frank turtle]

it's a great utility weapon

[warm comet]

Now, see, this where I disagree. Every boss in the game, i stayed basically right next to them for the entire fight with no difficulty. The range never struck me as much of an issue

[wild rose]

I have, it also burns too much ammo. I simply don't care for armor in this game and my play style focus on finishing enemies as fast as possible. I just gather armor around the battlefield

[median moat]

Oh btw, Is there enough resources in the game to upgrade everything?

[frank turtle]

yep

[median moat]

Cool

I was worried I wouldn't be able to

[wild rose]

You need to be close to Vagary, which is a problem because of the acid and some of her attacks. You can't go anywhere you want when fighting her which makes ranged weapons a much better option

[merry sapphire]

i mean, its pretty useful against the witch and the kreed cause you dont risk getting hit by their melee attack. which is VERY punishing on nightmare

[merry sapphire]

thats really not a problem if you melee alot

[twilit pumice]

You honestly don't have to go too much out of your way. Just need to refer back to your map occasionally.
Game currently doesn't have fast travel like Eternal atm for whatever reason.

[wild rose]

And most weapons in the game are about damage. What does Accelerator and Chainshot give you other than that?

[merry sapphire]

the ssg has some insane range for armor breaking strangely, a mid range ssg shot can heat up armor instantly. though i think they nerfed that in an update

[wild rose]

But then you aren't making use of the range 🤓

[merry sapphire]

come close, melee combo, and fall back a little as to not get punished from melee attacks, like the dreaded pinky bite attack

[wild rose]

They did. I prefer much more Impaler than SSG against Vagary. Being close to it is a problem. You pretty much need short range to break armor now

[warm comet]

Generally, with every enemy and boss in the game, my solution for them being to far was to just shield bash to close distance and then keep any parryable attacks they might retaliate with in mind. Rarely have I ever been punished for this

[merry sapphire]

idgaf about the accelerator i never used plasma guns to be honest, but the chainshot is amazing for the komodo demon due to its multiple parryable attack and its tendecy to move alot and fallback from you

[wild rose]

You know sometimes you won't have the option or time to do it. If you're using mace you might lose your ammo again before it charges back

[wild rose]

Well I do, the Accelerator does the highest DPS in the game I believe when in red mode, but it's use is questionable when not fighting against beefy demons

[merry sapphire]

are you playing on nightmare? (not in a judgemental way lmao)

[warm comet]

Yas!! First playthrough on UV, everything after on nightmare.

[merry sapphire]

i never struggled with that. the thing i sometimes struggle with is set up a falter to be able to safely get in close range to deal a melee combo

[wild rose]

Azrath punishes you like hell for it 💀 on nightmare I literally couldn't beat him with SSG, his attacks get much worse and there's even a few you can't parry

[wild rose]

Ranged weapons do him so dirty

[warm comet]

My sekiro brain is just soooooo goated what can I say

[merry sapphire]

same as me. then i dont know what to say tbh if it works for you it works for you

[merry sapphire]

maybe, heard the accelerator got a buff recently so it might actually be a secret top tier weapon, just never found it fun enough to use though tbh

[wild rose]

The buff was only to ammo

I love it, it just ain't as good against fodder as SSG is

[twilit pumice]

It needed more ammo?

[wild rose]

It burns a lot of ammo

[merry sapphire]

players did report that ammo ran out too quickly

[twilit pumice]

Huh

Really curious about the rocket launcher/grenade launcher combo.
Would like for it to become a mechanic, if possible.

Felt like I was one of the first couple people who discovered it by pissing around. When the game first came out.
Even told Mayo about it.

[merry sapphire]

whats the combo

[wild rose]

With SSG you get - good against heavies and bosses, good against fodder, good against armor, good in armor, and it even has a good spread.

Then you have the Impaler which has good damage, good against heavies, but it's not nice against fodder and armored enemies.

Accelerator is the same thing

Ravager is similar but it gives you health.

Rocket has lower damage than SSG and can't be used close unless you parried something. It seems a more situational weapon.

See what I mean?

[wild rose]

Wdym become a mechanic? It already is one with Rocket. Although there seems to be a bug with grenade

[twilit pumice]

Parry with rocket launcher to consistently have cannibalism, after parrying swap off to grenade launcher.

[twilit pumice]

I mean with grenade

[wild rose]

I guess grenade launcher is also having the give health ability when parrying

[merry sapphire]

well yeah. and the combat shotgun is a great utility weapon because of the armor gain. which can save you from a permadeath run.

[wild rose]

I really think rocket launcher sucks in this game. It's more of a "get health" tool than a big gun to kill big enemies.

[frank turtle]

I agree

[twilit pumice]

Cannibalism only triggers through rocket launcher.
You need to parry first with rocket, then swap to grenade.
Grenade will have the passive as long as you consistently parry with rocket

[wild rose]

Interesting

I'll go sleep now. Bye chat

[twilit pumice]

Tbh, outside of passive with grenade, I'd always use it for health replenish.

[wild rose]

I believe even grenade destroys armor better?

[twilit pumice]

Makes sense with rocket being a bit weaker in TDA. We got cannibalism in play when we use it.
Guess I could chalk it up to balance reasons

[merry sapphire]

the parry rocket upgrade deals insane damage. the highest damage a shot right under the BFC. its REALLY good against vageries

[twilit pumice]

If the rocket did more damage, that'd be even more health return.
If I'm understanding cannibalism right

Balance reasons traces back to grenade launcher cuz it isn't balanced with cannibalism, it's essentially fucking broken.

[merry sapphire]

thats gotta be a bug cause this seems crazy NGL. tho im def using that shit on my UN run

[wild rose]

Only with the red rocket upgrade maybe. But I'm sure an Impaler headshot deals more damage

[merry sapphire]

grenade launcher is balanced around that its kind of harder to aim and that it deals splash damage to you

[wild rose]

That's what @twilit pumice has been talking about for minutes...

[merry sapphire]

to be fair the conversation shifter towards the grenade launcher vs the rocket launcher regardless of the passive/bug

[wild rose]

But it also definitely doesn't make more damage than SSG, unless it has different damage when parrying or ranged. I've shot Mancunbus from distance with it and it took more than 2 shots to kill, while SSG kills in 2 shots

[merry sapphire]

red rocket does not deal nearly as much damage as the green rocket

[wild rose]

But the green rocket is a lot more rare to use

[merry sapphire]

yeah thats why i said its amazing for vageries. they throw shit ton of green projectiles which activate the green rocket for you

[merry sapphire]

well yeah cause its not a close range weapon. and it deals amazing aoe damage

[wild rose]

You'll get one rocket with extra damage sometimes when parrying a shot, but you'll always get the red rocket extra damage, so while you're parrying and shooting there's more damage

[wild rose]

Wdym it's not? Its best use is literally in close range when parrying

[merry sapphire]

grenade launcher damages you

[wild rose]

But you don't get the health. In her case better use chainshot

[wild rose]

Unless you parried

I don't think anyone uses rocket if not for the healing

[merry sapphire]

again, like i said. there is no Sometimes with vagaries. they shoot alot of green projectiles. which gives you ALOT of green rockets. man just try using it against a vagary

[merry sapphire]

i think you are getting confused man. we are talking about 2 different topics. and you merged them into one. look at the weapon in the message you just replied to. grenade launcher does not heal, the rocket launcher does

[wild rose]

Indeed, but my point is there are better weapons against a Vagary. I prefer using rocket against Cyberdemon, Baron and Agadon, and they don't benefit me with green rocket

[wild rose]

Damn I read it wrong 🤡💀

[merry sapphire]

the sheer dps of green rocket outweighs the others. ive definitely felt it. try it man and see for yourself

[merry sapphire]

all good it happens sometimes

[wild rose]

It was my chosen upgrade for 5 playthrough. I realized in the end of the last the red one would do more for me

[merry sapphire]

doesnt the red one do more AOE damage, which doesnt really affect direct hits on the demon itself?

[wild rose]

If rocket would benefit more from being long range instead of short...

[wild rose]

I'm in doubt now. But even then it's great to clear groups of enemies which is my second use

[plain sable]

ello

[twilit pumice]

Testing the cannibalism grenade launcher combo.
Trying to find a proper map to test it. Playing Siege part 2 now

[frank turtle]

tda has the best feeling ssg in modern doom imo

but eternal probably has the cooler one

it's so beefy and I love it

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-shotgun-pump-action-shotgun-john-doom-gif-3598943377017080987

[twilit pumice]

Cannibalism will give the immunity status of Cannibalism for Grenade launcher.
But seems the health return has lessened. Remember it being more. Gonna try it on another level before returning to Atomic Heart

[twilit pumice]

Health return isn't as effective as I remember, though still need to fully upgrade my grenade launcher.
Through upgrades, you can trigger more cluster grenades through your 2nd and 3rd shot. Guess after the 3rd shot it'll then reset back to the 1st shot of a 3 shot cycle.

Even if Health return still isn't that great, least I can use the immunity of explosive damage that's given through cannibalism

[frank turtle]

whenever I die in ultra nightmare, I don't see my death markers?

I used to be able to. but now they don't seem to work

[real lynx]

Nah. Demon claw flintlock sawed off double barrel lever action with a chainmail stock? Peak

Its only missing the meathook

[short plinth]

https://www.twitch.tv/mrmeanor_/clip/LaconicSoftOrcaOMGScoots-ipu6PZ4TMzz0gsq9

I forgot to post this. Happened 2 weeks ago

[fathom remnant]

Eternals SSG imo is on a Mount Rushmore or in the great book of boomsticks in pop culture for reasons. But there are those of us who see this one and remember the move that Arnie made with his lever action shotgun in T2 and now we have another all timer. And before we all think that's a stretch remember that the lava death scenes in these games are straight up the thumbs up move from The Terminator 2: Judgement Day

[frank turtle]

Ya I agree with it being a lil T2 reference

[fathom remnant]

Also the upgrade for more projectiles on both shotguns is really nice

[frank turtle]

I really should watch that movie again, god it's so good

[fathom remnant]

Yes it is

[twilit pumice]

Not necessarily, since shield bash.
I mean you can't throw yourself in the air mobility wise, but it is sorta the same.

[frank turtle]

I know some people don't, but I love the shield just cause of all the things you can do with it

[fathom remnant]

It's ridiculous in the best way possible of how much that shield can do I see the vision and was there for it day one of playing lol

[frank turtle]

Yep

[merry sapphire]

is the PT update out?

fr???

[midnight marsh]

It's not out yet.

[merry sapphire]

did you get the update?

[merry sapphire]

Dawg @pulsar granite

drivers came out yesterday 😭😭

what time does doom dark ages updates usually drop? idsoftware usually follows a schedule

[fathom remnant]

I was today years old because I just I learned you can kill marauders with the crucible granted they're staggered. But my question is......is it worth the sword charge?

[merry sapphire]

yeah i know its today, im just wondering when cause i really dont wanna stay up late for it if its gonna drop at like midnight

[midnight marsh]

Usually at 3 PM UTC which would be 11 AM EST and 5 PM CEST

[merry sapphire]

its a flex

[merry sapphire]

sick Thanks man

no thats in 6 hours

[fathom remnant]

Is this just a PC update?

[frank turtle]

yes

[fathom remnant]

No but I was making sure there isn't other stuff actually coming to consoles there buddy I know path tracing can't be on console but thanks

[frank turtle]

I was wondering too, maybe a patch along with the path tracing for pc

[fathom remnant]

Google made it seem there's more things and then there's other links that make it seem like it's just a PC one and I'm not too hungry up if it is or isn't this game seems great on my PS5 so far I haven't ran into any issues

[frank turtle]

I'm soft locked on abyssal forest lmfao

I accidentally shot the bolt too early and bow I'm stuck on the turret

[long sparrow]

Try to re-start the mission from the start

[frank turtle]

yeah that's what I had to do sadly

Hopefully I don't lose my run at the beginning part

[long sparrow]

I hate when that stuff happens ngl. The chances are really low, because when they do happen, it really sucks.

[frank turtle]

it's kinda inevitable when you replay a game alot. each run has something interesting I find

#screenshots

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-launch-launch-the-true-melon-gif-15484408642892935923

[long sparrow]

Should have made that specific turret have unlimited arrows. If a player manages to shoot it and miss it somehow there's no way to gain it back because there's no enemies there

[full barn]

how cruel

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-false-nuke-walter-white-false-breaking-bad-false-breaking-bad-false-nuke-gif-11851145952566757188

[split gate]

Speaking of Doom the Broken Ages, I started another Pandemonium run, I finished Sentinel Barracks, clicked on Holy City of Atarnum, then it took me to the main menu and suddenly Sentinel Barracks has not been completed and I have to do it all over again 😀

[merry sapphire]

yup same thing happened to me with pandemonium.

[full barn]

same shit happened to me except i was on hebeth, havent launched the game since

havent seen that happen on any mode other than pandemonium

[split gate]

I might as well done UN, I haven’t lost a life so far fuuu

[full barn]

please fix this game dawggg

[split gate]

Everybody gangsta in UN until Hebeth final arena 🙏🙏

[uneven mortar]

Any news on the next update after path tracing?

[split gate]

DLC next trust 🙏🙏, my uncle works at id, but fr, we don’t know yet I think

I experienced it for the first time just then, it’s so fun

[graceful lion]

if i had to guess, fixes, and uhh, other shit

[split gate]

One can only hope a master level

[graceful lion]

im sorry but how do you increase ais by multiple times, but proceed to not add master levels, thats just a bad business move

[split gate]

Tbh, I wanted them to add a few to begin with on launch but making a master level involves lots of play testing, tweaking the level maybe to its entirety, which would end up resulting in bugs appearing. We’ve seen how as small updates go by, new bugs appear, it’s a more longer process

[graceful lion]

true true

probably needs more now that theres more enemies

[split gate]

I’m not sure if it’s true but Cultist Base in Eternal was the first master level and I think that was on launch, that was what I expected for TDA too

[split gate]

Yep, as they take in more player feedback, they would also go back to the master levels their making and also change as well, which leads to many things

It’s not easy but they know their stuff in the end

[graceful lion]

well alot of people are saying the game is easy, so thats the plan, make them regret being born

[split gate]

Fuck it Plutonia 2 🙏

[graceful lion]

kaisercampaign but tda

it would be interesting if we eventually got a kaisercampaign-esque mod for tda, becuase KC also added in new enemies and made you able to get weapons early

[frank turtle]

that soul sphere trap on harbor of souls is amazing lmao

[graceful lion]

what does it do again i forgor, like what happens when u take it

[split gate]

Let him cook now

[frank turtle]

triple cyber demon

[split gate]

This guy posts the most random gifs I swear

[merry sapphire]

@pulsar granite whats with the Random ass Reactions

[neon gust]

Do you think they'll do the Twitch drops again

the Guardian Slayer skin looks absolutely amazing

[frank turtle]

what chapters could yall see as possible master levels

Forsaken plains would be dope

[graceful lion]

also the level with awakening the old one

the 2 levels after wakin him up, also his stomach, siege 1 would be fuckin ballin

i think Resurrection

[strong grotto]

is there any info when the path tracing patch comes out today?

[graceful lion]

just today™

[strong grotto]

[queen tiger]

Hi im new

[thorny rose]

Guys I'm having a problem with the siege part 1

I've gotten all the gold, rubies, toys, enhancements, wepon skins and gold

I've gotten 10 secrets

But I need one more secret in order to complete it 100%

I found 2 life sigils but it dosent count as secret

Can anyone help?

[queen tiger]

What doom game you talking about

[queen tiger]

What doom game you talking about

[thorny rose]

U do now what channel this is, right?

[queen tiger]

Like i said im new, and there is absolutely no info on most stuff, mostly just rules

[thorny rose]

Alr, this is for doom the dark ages

And I'm trying to 100% the game

[queen tiger]

Nah sorry cant help, only played eternal

[hard thistle]

Grunts friendly

[hard thistle]

Hi.

[thorny rose]

Sup

[lavish kindle]

Did you destroy all the artillery cannons?

[thorny rose]

Alr then

[thorny rose]

Yes

[queen tiger]

Uhh hi,

[hard thistle]

I'm a big fan. And My base has a leaky toilet.

[queen tiger]

What, i just said hi

Are you like a bot or something

[thorny rose]

Any idea abt the last secret?

[hard thistle]

You're still a plumber, right? I'm making a jest at your expense because Mario's a Plumber.

No, I'm not a bot.

[hollow sandal]

Hi I like Doom

[queen tiger]

Oh ok, tho im the smg4 verson so no

[hard thistle]

You like SMGs? BASED!

[neon gust]

Did you get all the collectibles? Check the collectibles at the bottom right of the map. You might be missing a Codex page.

[queen tiger]

No i said SMG4 the youtuber

[queen tiger]

And yes i do

[hard thistle]

facepalms.

[hard thistle]

Favorite SMG???

[queen tiger]

Like irl smg?

[hard thistle]

Yeah, Real sub machine gun.

[queen tiger]

Uhmm i dont know many

[neon gust]

definitely the siege type levels. imagine enhanced encounters with powerful demons

[hard thistle]

I have an MP-40 and an Uzi.

[queen tiger]

I only know fortnite smgs

[hard thistle]

The MP-40 or Maschinenpistole 40 was the German SMG of ww2 and is chambered in 9x19 parabellum. The Uzi is chambered in God's favourite Calibre, .45-ACP

[queen tiger]

Ok, tho like i said i only know fortnite smgs because i dont have a gun license

[hard thistle]

When you do get one, Go an MP-40, cheeper, ligher and easier to get ammo.

[queen tiger]

My favorite fortnite gun would be rapidfire smg, fast reload and firerate

[queen tiger]

Ok will do

[hard thistle]

9x19 is also known as 9mil. Cheep as chips.