the-dark-ages

[pulsar granite]

I am training my Rx 590 to get used to the future games with forced rt by making it play Indiana Jones tgc and doom tda

[harsh egret]

i mean have u seen the digital foundry interview

its like 50/50 if path tracing will be forced on the next game xd, at least it sounded like that to me

[pulsar granite]

If it is I might kill myself

[real rampart]

I know it sucks but technology can't be stagnated just so people can run their game on their gtx 1080 ti forever

[real rampart]

because digital foundry said so?

[harsh egret]

no, one of the lead engineers at id software

[pulsar granite]

It's on ps5

[obsidian shard]

Yes PS5 has RT

[harsh egret]

he said he would like to have that

[real rampart]

path tracing will most likely be the "intended" doesnt mean it will be forced

[pulsar granite]

Keep in mind the closest gpu the ps5 has is the 6750 gre which isn't good at rt

[harsh egret]

idk, go watch and then see how u interpret it lol

[real rampart]

if you can, please send me the link on the specific moment the dev said that

[muted root]

Where can we report potential Dark Ages bugs?

[harsh egret]

knew u would say that xd

how much u payin'

[real rampart]

nothing, you want me to believe what you are saying, then prove your point

otherwise I will take your words as a grain of salt

[harsh egret]

im trolling lol wait one sec

[real rampart]

but yeah, other than that, people complaining on RT being forced and having to get a graphic card that has been on the market for the last 7 years are the same ones that will jump on the wagon and be the first to complaint when a new game doesnt look "new gen"

want a game looking "new gen"? then upgrade

[harsh egret]

https://youtu.be/DZfhbMc9w0Q?si=Zusk8JMYmKdERH0u&t=2880

[pulsar granite]

What is the point of forced rt even, it just seems like an excuse for devs to put less detail into lighting. Look at 2016's lighting for ex, it was beautiful and didn't have rt

[harsh egret]

here u go, with timestamp

[real rampart]

faster development

[harsh egret]

like i said, watch and see how u interpet what he says

[muted root]

Yeah, is there anywhere we can do that, or...?

[pulsar granite]

An excuse to put more effort then, like I said

[real rampart]

ok then wait 8 years instead of 4 for new games

[hard thistle]

so more lazy

[pulsar granite]

And keep in mind all rt forced games are sponsored by Nvidia. I have a theory here, Nvidia paying off to purposefully force it

[harsh egret]

he is baiting guys dont fall for it pls

[winter osprey]

Guys does someone know how to download the art book on ps5 if I got the pre order? I can’t do it for some reason

[pulsar granite]

The gap between 2016 and eternal was literally 4 years and eternal didn't have forced rt

[real rampart]

its not lazy, its optimizing work amount. instead of working harder they can work smarter and focus on other stuff instead of having to bake lighting everytime, more so that now people expect more "realistic" lighting

[winter osprey]

Oh nvm lol

[hard thistle]

real

[harsh egret]

noooooo dont fall for it i said!!

[pulsar granite]

Who is baiting? I'm trynna be serious 😭

[real rampart]

yes, and eternal was also a ps4 game

[harsh egret]

the fkin invincible guy non stop baiting

[hard thistle]

what

[willow beacon]

Me when new games are harder to run than 5 and 9 year old games 🤯

[pulsar granite]

Chat I knew a guy who had limited 40gb internet and wasted 500mb and started raging on me and said he'd block me

[real rampart]

like, I dont really care about rt tbqh, but if people want new gen games they can't expect technology to stagnate and allow you to run PS6 games on your GTX 1080 ti forever

[harsh egret]

@real rampart anyway go watch what i sent and see what ur takeaway is

[real rampart]

will do

[stone mica]

why cant i use dlss frame generation? i have a 4070

[muted root]

Helloooooo?

[long sparrow]

Pisses me off how I have every single Doom game on PC but I can't get DA because of that and my GPU moves both 2016 and Eternal at 120fps on Ultra.

[pulsar granite]

Really, forced rt is becoming an excuse for lazier devs just like ue5

[pulsar granite]

If we don't answer it means we don't know

[willow beacon]

There’s a difference between being lazy and not wanting to work on lighting for literal years

That’s an absolutely enormous delay

[muted root]

Appreciate the acknowledgement, thank you.

[pulsar granite]

Again the gap between 2016 and eternal were 4 years, the gap between eternal and tda were 5 so you're onto nothing

[harsh egret]

look what u did now everyone fell for it

[willow beacon]

???

[hard thistle]

bro don't shoot the messenger

[pulsar granite]

Last time I checked eternal didn't have forced rt

[real rampart]

was physX also being lazy when it came about?

[willow beacon]

Ok, eternal is also not TDA

[real rampart]

and forced everyone to upgrade

[pulsar granite]

No since it wasn't a forced tech

[real rampart]

it eventually became

[pulsar granite]

Every single physx game allowed it to be turned off in a way

[pulsar granite]

And casually Nvidia removes support from the 50 series, I don't think it became

[real rampart]

yeah, it became an old thing, just like baked lighting is becoming an old thing

[pulsar granite]

And my point is, physx didn't make games unplayable if it wasn't supported, it just made them run worse unlike hardware rt

[real rampart]

like, i get it its frustrating, but do people really expect their card to run newer and newer games at the same quality and fps as games that came before it?

[hollow sandal]

@real rampart whta color is your hell surge attacks

[real rampart]

at what point should we allow more advanced tech to become the norm?

if thats the case then I should be pissed that my first card (gtx 650) can't run shit

[pulsar granite]

When it's good and easy to run

[delicate grotto]

This game is 3x the size of both of those in terms of scale… skyboxes are much larger, environments are expansive, way more world detail, etc.
You cannot compare them. If this game was developed with baked lighting it’d take at LEAST another 1.5 years to develop.

I’d argue 2 honestly

[pulsar granite]

I am getting tired from this chat imma go

[delicate grotto]

Because you’re wrong.

[pulsar granite]

No, you're defending the rt because your pc is actuary capable of it. Think from the perspective of someone who can't

[delicate grotto]

The game didn’t need raytracing I agree but it’d most definitely take longer to develop.

[harsh egret]

then upgrade

[real rampart]

but its easy to run, people that complaint about it want to play shit at 300fps, you don't need 300fps to enjoy a game, the baseline rtx card they ask minimum runs the game at 60fps on 1080p

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[obsidian shard]

Erm Actually you forgot to account for DLC

[pulsar granite]

Dlc didn't remake the lighting and engine tho so that doesn't count

[harsh egret]

u can buy a used mid-range gpu for pretty good prices nowadays, idk what to tell u

[willow beacon]

If my 10 year old card can’t run new games on high quality I shouldn’t be mad, I should upgrade or not play it

[pulsar granite]

I can play the game but at 40 fps and drops to 5 fucking fps during intense combat thank you id

[obsidian shard]

idtech8 was Finished Production in 2022

[harsh egret]

so get money and upgrade then

[willow beacon]

Yes Id thank you for making a great looking game

[hollow sandal]

What color is your hell surge attacks?

[pulsar granite]

Whatever man I just wanna sleep

[willow beacon]

I haven’t played this game in like 2 weeks because of crashing

[hollow sandal]

Fuck

[pulsar granite]

Goodbye everyone do not ping me back

[willow beacon]

Ok go to sleep then, no point arguing in a discord server sleep is much more important

[harsh egret]

we wont dw

[hard thistle]

Goodnight bro

[real rampart]

so basically I should be mad that doom the dark ages couldnt run on a gtx 650?

[vital rapids]

The game is better with the music more present, and after that sesh, it has definitely had an effect on my play

[real rampart]

or the limit is set whenever you can run it?

[hollow sandal]

@pulsar granite what color is your hell surge attacks?

[delicate grotto]

I’ve got a console that can run it, and I understand the frustration of not being able to, but raytracing was implemented to optimize the game’s development cycle, it wasn’t to take shortcuts and screw over people who can’t keep up with current tech out of “laziness.”

You’re perfectly valid to be upset about it, but there are legitimate reasons for it being there. I don’t agree with it, but I’d also accept another 2 year wait.

[hard thistle]

comedian

[hollow sandal]

Comedian blue?

[hard thistle]

no

[solemn matrix]

Just got to Chapter 19 on Ultra Nightmare 🙂

[hollow sandal]

Well what colors is yours

[hard thistle]

what

[delicate grotto]

Good luck!

[hollow sandal]

Awesome

[harsh egret]

oh no... devs can make way better looking games while also shortening the development time? D: noooo

[vital rapids]

Please press a number so your moan can be categorised by our system:

1. I suck
2. Game changed
3. Mick Gordon
4. Old computer

[hollow sandal]

Hell surge attacks

[solemn matrix]

Break Time 🙂

[hollow sandal]

1

[vital rapids]

1

[hard thistle]

what's that

[obsidian shard]

2 Please (Finishing Move Cooked and the New Update Made my Ears Wet)

[delicate grotto]

The parryable projectiles thrown by Imps, Hell Knights and creatures alike. Basically the horizontal and vertical projectiles.

[hollow sandal]

Attacks which can be parried, they are a different color from regular attacks. The default is green

[solemn matrix]

5. Custom - Can I get a Oh Yeahhhhh!

[hard thistle]

then green, duh

[harsh egret]

yellow is goated

[hollow sandal]

You can change it

[wheat sigil]

so basic....

[hard thistle]

why would I, gives me no tactical advantage whatsoever

[delicate grotto]

The new update made the music 10x better in game it’s actually insane.

[hollow sandal]

Hi

[obsidian shard]

I KNOW

[hard thistle]

basic and pure

[harsh egret]

only sacrifice was my ears dying the first time i opened the game after updating but its alr

it was SO fkin loud

[hollow sandal]

So If I adjusted my audio I can change it back to default?

[delicate grotto]

Yes

[vital rapids]

You have selected 5, custom complaint. Please wait while we connect you with someone who cares
There may be a short wait of 5,000,000 years, during which suspended animation is available.
You will be woken every 10 years with a cup of coffee and a lemon scented paper napkin

[hollow sandal]

Ok thanks pain elemental

[wheat sigil]

hi

[delicate grotto]

The patch notes actually recommends this

[harsh egret]

they recommend to change it to default in fact

[hollow sandal]

Ok cool thanks guise

[wheat sigil]

but it makes the game roughly 2,87× better

[hard thistle]

better at what

[vital rapids]

I don't want to have fun, fun is not optimal what is the fun meta

[real rampart]

what are the default values btw?

[harsh egret]

press v to reset to default

[real rampart]

yes

[harsh egret]

but its
90
80
75
75

[real rampart]

ok thank

[hard thistle]

just put everything on 100, ez

[harsh egret]

yeah i had music on 100 when i launched the game and i died 👍

[wheat sigil]

huh?
better as in more enjoyable

[harsh egret]

well he doesnt like to change settings much apparently so

same with sliders

[hard thistle]

ion see how changing an attacks color makes it more enjoyable, but u do u bro

[deep oracle]

i quit dis game

[harsh egret]

prob one of the teleporters where u cant go back to

[deep oracle]

soooo boring after then 1st run

[hard thistle]

never said anything about setting, only said about modifications

[wheat sigil]

i mean, how the game looks plays a big role on how enjoyable it is🤷‍♂️

[obsidian shard]

Lmao, I got a LOUD 5.1 Speaker System so I was 100% for Music so i will make sure I turn my A/V receiver down first

[harsh egret]

yh i generalized settings mb

[harsh egret]

yeah it was rly loud

[hard thistle]

game looks good

[obsidian shard]

I have Nightmare Settings For default but Resource Value to Max

[harsh egret]

me when i realize that this is all subjective

[real crater]

fr the way they be starvin us of resources is the most classic doom thing about the game

gotta turn that thing up

[wheat sigil]

nah, you got an insane amount of ammo

[hard thistle]

you literally cannot run out of ammo in this game

[harsh egret]

i need them to add that sekiro mode or whatever they're gonna call it

[loud juniper]

I see the latest patch fixed berserker, but it still doesn't pop for me. Anyway to trigger?

[harsh egret]

i want hard asf parries

[delicate grotto]

Probably a new save

[wheat sigil]

could make it look better...

[loud juniper]

sadge

[harsh egret]

are we really bullying people about what sliders they use? its there for everyone to set to whatever they prefer 😭

[delicate grotto]

Turn up game speed, projectile speed and tighten the parry window. Bam. There you go.

[harsh egret]

i meant the gamemode they talked about that is in the works or smth

[wheat sigil]

nup, still not hard parries

[hard thistle]

like I said bro ion see how changing how a specific attacks color will make the game look better but u do u

[bold mulch]

smallest parry window is literally sekiro doom

[hard thistle]

who's bullying who?

[real crater]

i must be a game breaking bug then because i dont run out of ammo all the time or anything but sometimes it happens

[hollow sandal]

@hard thistle we strongly suggest you change your hell surge color

[wheat sigil]

yes me too

[cold hatch]

do we know when exactly the path tracing update is out or is it just this month sometime

[hollow sandal]

*joking

[hard thistle]

why

[thin zinc]

did they change life sigils in pandemonium? im starting with 1 and none more exist on the map in level 1

[real crater]

for fun

[hard thistle]

just punch an enemy bro

[wheat sigil]

cus gaming

[hard thistle]

I'm done with the game for now, had my fun

[real crater]

thats what i do but when i used the default resource value slider it only gave me like 4 shells

[slim crypt]

fire

[vital rapids]

You shouldn't be worrying too much about resource economy when you are the literal backstory Slayer rampaging
You should be worrying about roflstomping demons in the most crushing ways possible

[delicate grotto]

It is with certain enemies like Stone Imps and Cosmic Barons. Seriously, Cosmic Barons. You miss 1 parry you pretty much miss them all.

[hard thistle]

keep punching, you also have like 7 other weapons

[vital rapids]

We're writing the story of why every demon craps themselves at the mention of the Slayer

[little gale]

Is the update out yet?

[harsh egret]

yes

[little gale]

Oh perfect thank you

[real crater]

i know i havent run out of ammo in a while its mainly like midgame when it happens

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I know but in the meantime, you’ve got something similar to try out. That mode sounds fun though.

[vital rapids]

Not that the game doesn't throw you a curveball every now and then
When it wants to get difficult, it can imo
Probably me being crap

[harsh egret]

yeye ill def try at some point, havent rly dabbled into anything too crazy in terms of sliders, i also dont like anything more than 120% speed rly, feels... idk

[delicate grotto]

I agree honestly. Game is great on 120%

It starts to look a bit janky above that.

[harsh egret]

I'll be practicing to start doing UN soon since i havent had that much time recently to play, then ill see what ill do

[vital rapids]

I have my UN on pause for the same reason. It's difficult to get enough clean play to really improve when you only have short bursts to play in

[harsh egret]

Yeah my exams are mostly over and I got a bit more time now

[graceful lion]

first exam in physics and its on the 10th

[obsidian shard]

I only have it so when I f up i get Punished Bad but in return if I do good I get rewarded

I do believe I actually have damage to Slayer Slightly above standard Nightmare

[harsh egret]

yup i got my final exam on the 11th

my bachelors thesis presentation 😭

[winter osprey]

So apparently Bethesda has the saw shield model up for 3d printing

[oak temple]

You can if your not using all the tools but just like Eternal you can keep topped up all the time

[strange kestrel]

what's the name of the song that plays during the trailer when doom guy punches the yellow barrier?

[hard thistle]

So... Berserker trophy fixed?

I logged in on the game on PS5 and it did not get unlocked for me retroactively.

[harsh egret]

not on ps5 apparently

[hard thistle]

I already suspected so lmao

[bold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

god damnit

[real crater]

nice just gotta spend thousands of dollars on a 3d printer then i can have one

unless they got one at the library or somethin

[oak temple]

Yeah fixed for me

[delicate grotto]

Not sure which trailer you’re talking about but it’s likely Unchained Predator or Unholy Siege. Those 2 were showcased in trailers for TDA.

[pallid wing]

No slowmo slider
No quick weapon class switch

[delicate grotto]

It’s planned

The slowdown toggle is at least

[pallid wing]

This seems mostly bug fixes, which is good for sure

[graceful lion]

u can dsiable it with kaibzmod

[delicate grotto]

Music got fixed too

[pallid wing]

Ps5

[hard thistle]

Is it me or is super shotgun slightly weaker

I mean I heard of plans of a nerf

[graceful lion]

u can also make slowmo faster or slower, or fully disable it

[quiet needle]

@hard thistle its still pretty powerful,just deal a little more with armors on some npc but still strong,no worry

[hard thistle]

neato neato

Good ol' SSG

[graceful lion]

u should try headshots with the impaler, its absolutely busted

[quiet needle]

All weapons are op when maxed

[boreal locust]

Has bresker trophy been patched with this update?

[boreal locust]

Ah okay.. hope it’s fixed for me too

[lilac swan]

Yes

[wild rose]

I sleep so much better knowing the Doom Slayer is in my room with me

[ionic sinew]

How did you get it to pop up. Mine hasn't popped up

[oak temple]

load into your 100% save and loaded into any mission

popped up after than on PC

[ionic sinew]

Did that

I'm on ps

Looks like they want me to complete the game again. I've tried everything now

[frail bloom]

Rip and tear, until it is done

[ionic sinew]

Adult life wants me to rip and tear when it's the most convenient I'm afraid

[frail bloom]

Lol

[thin zinc]

i started pandemonium but start with one sigil and none other are on the map in places they should be. is this in the new update? i dont remember it being like that before

[stoic sleet]

I NOTICED

IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER OMFG

[delicate grotto]

If only the game released with the music like this. I feel bad for Finishing Move.

[stoic sleet]

Same

They still are getting appreciaton tho

[long sparrow]

Was it the mixing, or that bug that didn't play the songs on PC?

[stoic sleet]

In pretty sure rip and tear has 120m listens and unchained predator has 500k listens the difference isnt huge

[tough owl]

hey guys

[tribal patrol]

whats the difference now

[tough owl]

anyone know why i cant transfer my redeem game to steam

[stoic sleet]

Ask steam suport

[simple mist]

Is it peam?

[stoic sleet]

Apparently theyre “efficient” in their craft

[stoic sleet]

Its alot more peak yes

[tough owl]

so the problem is into steam platform not bethesde.net

[stoic sleet]

Well ask both bethesda and steak support

[ripe gull]

YO is there a way to make the dialogue play normally when the game speed is at 150

its super sped up

[twilit pumice]

Reason why I don't play on that speed. Until they fix it

[harsh egret]

thats also one thing that bugs me, but no afaik

[ripe gull]

darn

[delicate grotto]

@tribal patrol @long sparrow
Music wasn’t playing properly all the time, and the sound mixing wasn’t to standard.

Update made it a lot louder and crisper. Massive improvement. Play a level and you’ll hear the difference. Patch recommends you set your audio back to default settings.

[ripe gull]

thanks tho

[tough owl]

ok thank you man

[frail bloom]

Hey is the weapon swap speed raised?

It kinda does
Not quickswap, like normal swap

[quiet needle]

@frail bloom good one,i was wondering how to quick swap after bash with shield

[hollow sandal]

Oh shit they fixed weapon swapping?

[quiet needle]

I tried but i cant make it work

[long sparrow]

Yeah i actually played 2 times today, one before and another one after the update and I legit thought I touched some settings because the music was just better overall. Good stuff.

[frail bloom]

No not quickswap, normal swapping

[quiet needle]

Ah ok

[frail bloom]

Like casually, it seems faster

[vital rapids]

Seems about the same. I use number keys though not mousewheel/weapon wheel, and this has always been quite fast

[frail bloom]

Huh, so is there no delay? Like it kinda just happens

Like pretty responsive

[rose ridge]

I am stuck in chapter 6: the seige part 1. There is a portal that took me to a place with a gate that won't open (shield target opens behind gate when standing on green button). Seems glitches. Also, I completed chapter 5 100% and when I went back to ch6, my progress was back at 89% on ch5.

[frail bloom]

Idk

[vital rapids]

I bet they did speed it up tbh samir

They already acknowledged the feedback

[frail bloom]

Again I'm not sure
@slim shuttle
Do yu notice the swap speed faster? Or not yet

[hollow sandal]

Ok swapping is faster?

[stoic sleet]

Why do yall tag youtubers so casually, i feel i would be too scared that i was bothering them even though theyre just normal dudes

[frail bloom]

Guys how do I turn off tutorials😭 🙏

[stoic sleet]

Settings

[hollow sandal]

You have to be in the main menu

[frail bloom]

Damn

[hollow sandal]

Yea rip

[stoic sleet]

Did u beat all of ur runs so far with tutorials on?

[frail bloom]

I'm on my second run with no tutorials

[stoic sleet]

Oh

[frail bloom]

I just resetted on accident bc of the advice

[stoic sleet]

Yeah im bad at managment

That week long ban my parents gave me definitely affected my pandemonium run

Now i need to practice on nightmare like a coward

[frail bloom]

Uh huh

[stoic sleet]

Do you think atleast one person is going to beat ultra nightmare on their first run spoiler free

[frail bloom]

They probably already have

There's a lot of them out there

(Not referring to me oops)

[mild ocean]

anyone know how i can fix the glitch of some area's being literally pitch black, textures smearing and every humans eyes being white durring cutscenes? this is getting really annoying and i dont want to wait 2 weeks for a patch to fix the game comes out

[obsidian shard]

Reinstall the game will probably fix it

[mild ocean]

alr ill try that

[frail bloom]

I forget that yu have slow mo with your shield throw lol

Might use it for revs

[foggy breach]

one of the concept art for the mancubus looks so similar to the Doom 3 version

[frail bloom]

Show pic pls

[foggy breach]

which channel?

[frail bloom]

Screenshots

[foggy breach]

alright

[frail bloom]

Ye he's cool

[foggy breach]

wished we got that

[mild ocean]

could it be and issue with my Vram?

im playing on a laptop

[frail bloom]

Ye he's more unique the one we got is like just there lol

[willow dagger]

I’m on ps5 and I was wondering how can I get the berserker trophy I have two different saves that have all the requirements for the trophy but still didn’t get it do I have to do another play through?

[solemn matrix]

Now on Chapter 20 on Ultra Nightmare. I had 1 HP on Chapter 19 at the end!!!!!!!

So CLOSE

[obsidian shard]

Hmm possibly

[naive flame]

New update?

[obsidian shard]

Opening the Settings and Going to Graphics will show how much your Using

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[naive flame]

What was it for

[obsidian shard]

Audio fixes, Bug Fixes, general Tweaks to Atlan and Dragon stuff

Big one is the Audio Fix

[naive flame]

Ah

[naive flame]

Hope it fixed the music stops playing

[obsidian shard]

Yup and Fixed The Mixing of the Music and Increased the Volume of Music so it's more in the Front

[remote thunder]

the game is finally good 🥹 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1380321861581275326/image.png?ex=68437468&is=684222e8&hm=fdcf27c55b9b5fec22b38c632fcf5686b3dc356c1295c041d5883c901a1b532d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[naive flame]

Thanks for the info

[obsidian shard]

Np

[solemn matrix]

Where do you see this?

[obsidian shard]

Slayers Club newest News Article

[naive ridge]

||apparently the berserk power up gives you infinite BFC usage while it’s active||

[frail bloom]

BRO THE IMP DOES SUCH A FUNNY JOG WALK
reminds me of the pain elemental yoinky sploinky

Good times

[frail bloom]

Welcome back unmayker haste powerup thingymibob

[frosty mantle]

Hi there. Have anyone encounter 2 mancubus while fighting the first Vagary Champion after the last update?

[shrewd mountain]

after listening to the TDA soundtrack

tbh finishing move did a tremendous job, it fits the tone of the game, the gameplay style and the feeling of DOOM perfectly

i cant stand people who hate on it simply cause its not mick gordon

if you have valid criticisms, sure

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message

Guys how do I get this

[shrewd mountain]

but its one of my favorite soundtracks,
gives off a completely different vibe and style of metal from 2016 or eternal

[frail bloom]

My only criticisms are the lack of references given it's placement in the timeline

And while I love the thrashy riffs, the boss tracks imo should have a more melodic feel to them bc you're fighting important people, kreeds boss fight is the most prominent example. From the ashes is perfect tho

[obsidian shard]

The OST has Loads of References to Metal Actually

[frail bloom]

NVM I FOUND IT

[obsidian shard]

I agree May be my Fav

[frail bloom]

Oops I shoulda clarified

Classic doom or past doom games in general

[obsidian shard]

I know DOOM 64 main theme is in it

In Atlan Battleground

[shrewd mountain]

i heard a few

[twilit pumice]

Baby's first metal band typa shit predicament

[tepid verge]

how i like to think about it is that the doomslayer in the dark ages hasn't completely changed yet, so the soundtrack is different. once doom 2016 came around, then he became what he is

[shrewd mountain]

not as many as 2016 or eternal, but i have keen ears

... commander keen

[frail bloom]

I know

But I want more

Stuff like message for the archvile, dave d taylor blues, waiting for romero to play

[frail bloom]

Yeah but it would be awesome to hear the imps song too given that they got the bass down perfectly

[shrewd mountain]

plus i cannot play 2016 or eternals ost over TDA, ive tried and it just doesnt create a good experience

[twilit pumice]

Message for archvile and Waiting for Romero would be wonderful

[obsidian shard]

Exactly

[finite sequoia]

I might just do modified ultra nightmare mode because I just kinda want the skin I do want to beat ultra nightmare but honestly I don’t have it in me this is definitely stolen valor :/

[shrewd mountain]

2016 has more of an angry tone, like its building you up to massacre the demons, eternal has more of a rhythm track to it

TDA requires constant focus and decision making

the soundtrack reflects the feeling you must push

[frail bloom]

Unholy siege

[shrewd mountain]

im saying this now

if mick gordon worked on TDA, he probably wouldve made something that sounds similar to TDA's current soundtrack

[obsidian shard]

Infernal Chasm

My Favorite Eternal Track isn't a Mick Track

[frail bloom]

Anyways, I would like the more underrated doom tracks to be referenced since the one's I mentioned above have never gotten any love

[shrewd mountain]

finishing move were directed to make the music sound and flow like that, its not JUST cause they arent mick gordon

[split gate]

Watch out, the crazy Mick fans can’t comprehend this

[frail bloom]

Yes but he would put more references

Well bc he started it so it makes sense

[shrewd mountain]

people forget mick isnt in full creative control

thats the whole reason the drama started

[frail bloom]

FM were unsure to put in references due to having a fear that they would overwrite micks legacy but when talking to them I think they'll do more

[shrewd mountain]

anyway enough about the drama, finishing move were directed to make an OST sound like that, if they were directed im sure they could mimick mick's style

hell, some guy on youtube can make a song that sounds identical to mick, what makes you think 4 guys cant

professional award winning studio btw

[split gate]

They could have easily been asked that but they were told to do it their own way

[shrewd mountain]

i hope they continue to make more doom OST's

[split gate]

Much better than trying to copy someone’s style

[frail bloom]

MORE REFERENCES

And melodies

Thanks

[shrewd mountain]

i was really hoping we would get more medieval orchestral music sprinkled in TDA

[frail bloom]

Some boss tracks are forgettable to me

I'm sorry man it's just for me

[shrewd mountain]

but oh well, the strings they did use was perfect

[frail bloom]

Yes smt like attack on titan

[shrewd mountain]

blood spill 🔥

[obsidian shard]

Good news They are Doing The DLC I believe as their Website says the TDA OST is still in Production

[shrewd mountain]

wait is blood spill a boss track????

[frail bloom]

Idk

[split gate]

Yes

[shrewd mountain]

that was one of the first tracks i fell in love with, when the gameplay reveal happened

or at least i think its the right track??

[split gate]

Theomachy, From the Ashes, Blood Spill, Between Hex and Flame, and Apotheosis

[shrewd mountain]

anyway ima play deltarune, cya

[frail bloom]

I just think that some tracks are filler and should stand out a hit more
BUT
Big but here...
The dlc tracks might be better

[real lynx]

does this mean no more UN slider

[frail bloom]

All kinda forgettable to me besides from the ashes which slaps

[shrewd mountain]

mick had filler-y tracks

[frail bloom]

In 2016, yes

In eternal, nope

[shrewd mountain]

just more reconizable filler i guess

[split gate]

Fair enough bro, each their own 😄

[shrewd mountain]

i cant stand urdak's heavy fighting music

[frail bloom]

true

[shrewd mountain]

its so boring to me

[frail bloom]

I never cared for it either, most likely we know the reason

[mild ocean]

says im using 5473 MiB/5161 MiB and i have no clue what MiB means

[split gate]

Urdak’s tracks are the most disappointing, at least TDA’s ost is consistent

[frail bloom]

But then there's the Holt🔥 🔥
Andrew yu legend

[shrewd mountain]

the most underrated track is the one in eternal in doom hunter base, the room that introduces the pinky

[obsidian shard]

Gotta turn down your Graphics

[mild ocean]

they are all on low, texture pools is on the minimum it can be

[sage loom]

will Dark Ages be in Switch 2?

[shrewd mountain]

the heavy fighting track is so good, used once and never again

[shrewd mountain]

MAYBE???

dont ever count on current gen games being on the switch 2, the power of the console is similar to a PS4 pro

[sage loom]

like could be cool playing with a mouse Joy-Con

[finite sequoia]

I think I’ll do modified ultra nightmare mode because I just want the skin but I do want to try and practice to beat it normally afterwards is that acceptable? Or am I still a coward? I know it doesn’t really matter to most people but I still want to see people’s opinions

[obsidian shard]

Well It's MiB is MegaBits so you have 4 GB And it's not enough so the Graphics are Killing themselves

[shrewd mountain]

the DLSS could make it possible

[mild ocean]

any other way to fix the texture bugs? i cannot get my Vram usage any lower

[shrewd mountain]

but it would look like donky aids

jk TDA looks great on low settings

[mild ocean]

alr

[lilac swan]

David Levy did a great job on the UAC Atlantica facility ost

[mild ocean]

aparently i can use a Vram spoof to fix this issue but it will tank performance a little bit

i dont know how to use a Vram spoof though

[honest vortex]

I don't like Urdak or The Holt music

But I also don't like how dubstep wub wub heavy Doom Hunter Base is tbh

[frail bloom]

Yu don't like the holt

Blasphemy

[honest vortex]

The Doom Hunter boss battle theme is way too obnoxious dubstep for my tastes

[frail bloom]

AAUUGHGHHG ANDREW MUH BOI

[shrewd mountain]

doom hunter base pinky introduction room heavy fighting music is TIER

[honest vortex]

The Holt music felt very similar to Urdak to me

[honest vortex]

I actually agree with that.

It's the only song I liked on Doom Hunter Base

[frail bloom]

No the holt is much better

It actually has a combat theme

Wheras urdak is just like meh all around

[mild ocean]

anyone know how to do this?

[frail bloom]

It's very dusk sounding

Try giving it a relisten

[obsidian shard]

Blood Swamps is My Fav Track from Eternal

[honest vortex]

That song basically is a remix of Cultist Base, but is honestly better than Cultist Base

[honest vortex]

Idk the vibe and style felt very similar to me

[frail bloom]

Think of it this way

Cultist base is to doomhunter base as urdak is to the holt

Just try it

[solemn matrix]

I dont know what this means i mean the UN update

[obsidian shard]

It shows on Main Menu in The Save Files area

If it's Been Modified

[lilac swan]

Because it takes place in Urdak as well, the music in Urdak is more focused on a more angelic tone, the opposite of the music you find in Hell.

[honest vortex]

I just relistened . I'm still not a big fan of The Holt's music tbh

[frail bloom]

AAUUUGHGHGH

From where what's the channel

[honest vortex]

https://youtu.be/QD_gM4QvW3Y?si=EDvVZZ70FCAd-aVi

[frail bloom]

Damn it

Don't like the dubstep then I guess, fair

[honest vortex]

I don't even think Urdak really has an angelic vibe except for the ambient/exploration music I guess

It feels more like corruption

[frail bloom]

Huh, I wonder why

[obsidian shard]

Im pretty sure Into The Void has Quad Machine

Also FM is Doing what Bobby Prince did

[frail bloom]

Which one was quad machine,and give time stamp to

[harsh egret]

lol thats the point

[honest vortex]

Though the combat music....I don't really know what it sounds like

[obsidian shard]

3:20

[frail bloom]

Ok dude but idc

[honest vortex]

I know. Just someone said it sounded angelic

[harsh egret]

ah

[obsidian shard]

Could be the Same Guitar but sounds Familiar

[harsh egret]

i mean it kinda is both rly

[honest vortex]

Ambience sure

I don't hear it in the combat music doe

[harsh egret]

yeah and in combat u fight the corrupt maykrs, out of combat u see the angelic world they built ig

[honest vortex]

Not sure what it is, but I am not big on the dubstep either

[lilac swan]

I like the samur boss fight music

[honest vortex]

Yeah I see it with the aesthetics and history. Just not the combat music

[frail bloom]

What does this have to do with my convo with jaycool

[lilac swan]

I replied to your message by accident

[frail bloom]

I was talking abt references and he was like
But bobby prince referenced metal tracks and I'm like ok that's cool but I want to hear references to the franchise I'm playing amd investing time too

It's not bad but it takes a piece outta me

Bobby prince borrowed some ideas from other famous metal bands

Which is cool but that was 30 yrs ago lol

Yeah that

[obsidian shard]

Like how E1M1 sounds Like Metallica's Master of Puppets

[frail bloom]

Same

[placid rock]

#screenshots improved my dropship design. any thoughts are welcome

[frail bloom]

Here it is

Awesome

[lilac swan]

There are a lot of songs similar to other bands' songs too

[obsidian shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/s/378tWRIMHc

[placid rock]

its almost done just need to work on getting the details and wings in

[frail bloom]

C'mon wouldn't yu wanna hear smt like shawns got the shotgun for dlc

The classic tracks are a perfect fit

BUT NO ONE CARES FOR SOME REASON

[twilit pumice]

I think Doom 2016 has some fear factory influence on the songs

Yep, and Daft Punk is one of my favorite pop bands.

[lilac swan]

https://youtu.be/4Q46klPn1-U?si=unRIys5cm4NxubA6

[harsh egret]

in that sense i agree with u, would be cool
what i talked about a few days ago was more about the music being objectively GOOD for what tda is, more refferences would be cool for sure if thats what u meant by wanting "better" tracks

[frail bloom]

It's that extra touch that would get ppl talking abt the tracks more. I'm actually just asking that the underutilized tracks get referenced. I don't need to hear dark halls or at dooms gate again lol.

[harsh egret]

the average person doesnt care about that sadly, they just cry about not doing music in mick's style when the point of this ost is NOT to make music in mick's style, thats the reason i see people not enjoy it enough'

even if alot of ppl still enjoy it alot, including me, i enjoy many of the tracks

[ripe gull]

does anytone know what song plays in the harbor of souls level

[frail bloom]

Idc abt the casuals it would be such a good nostalgia rush

And would be awesome

I might compile a list of things I want referenced, may be 5 or 6 songs

[honest vortex]

People say Dark Ages has disappointing Berserk even though it gives you infinite melee charges and infinite BFC ammo.

People also say Eternal's Berserk is disappointing which I agree with

[warped swallow]

I don't understand something. Where am I supposed to find Digital Artbook and OST from Premium Edition? Maykr skins are here, but where is everything else?

[copper torrent]

We'll forever wonder what Mick wouldve done. He's jus better. Finishing Move is great but it's not Mick. Mick sounds like the very destillation of violence into musical form. Finishing Move is just another metal album

[harsh egret]

im ngl the berserk IS kinda disappointing in dark ages imo

[warped swallow]

Well, I feel like the closest what Mick did to TDA's style is Metal Hell, a.k.a. Nekravol OST in DOOM Eternal

[frail bloom]

Yu say that like ppl don't get what yu feel in some of FM tracks, that very much exists

[harsh egret]

they sound like that cuz thats kinda the point

[frail bloom]

I ascend when I hear blood red

[honest vortex]

I had a lot of fun abusing the infinite melee charges into my combos and chaining it into other actions.

Eternal had the weakest Berserk IMO. But tbf people usually say Eternal's Berserk is bad anyway.

[frail bloom]

Sue me

[honest vortex]

It made it feel like Custom Berserk in a way

[harsh egret]

blood red is nice

[copper torrent]

I really enjoy the TDA soundtrack, it's way above average for a videogame and fits the game perfectly. But Mick was lighting in a bottle. BFG Division got 60 million views on YT, it's just another level

[frail bloom]

Orchestra swelling has me swelling

[honest vortex]

Also Infinite BFC ammo is WILD

[ripe gull]

fav ost from the game? unholy seige and chasm dont count

[frail bloom]

Fair but consider that 2016 has a lot of filler tracks and wind noise

Eternal tho, ye it's eternal

[honest vortex]

TOTTFIY kept getting 20 million views then removed, then re-uploaded, then got 20 million views and the trend repeated like 3-4 times.

If TOTTFIY was never removed from YouTube, it probably would have gotten 60-80 million views or even more

[frail bloom]

Into the void
From the ashes
To name a few

[red aspen]

does this update fix the berserker trophy

[honest vortex]

Wow I don't agree with the 2016 take at all tbh

[ripe gull]

theres this onse song that plays on seige and i cant seem to find it on spotify

[copper torrent]

I agree, 2016 was very experimental and not everything works great, even though everything has that godly Mick Gordon sound mixing. Eternal is more consistent

[honest vortex]

I honestly thought it was fixed almost two weeks ago because I randomly got it around 1-2 weeks ago.

I was surprised to hear it wasn't fixed for others

[copper torrent]

I woudnt call it filler, it's just Mick trying to find his footing

[harsh egret]

those 2 are my top 2 as well

[frail bloom]

Harbringer has 1 repeated riff, Rust dust and guts takes too long to drop, flesh and metal is an assault on the eardrums, the boss tracks are just messy for me and I don't understand what's so great abt vega core

Just me

[red aspen]

i just want my last trophy bruv 😭

[harsh egret]

pursuit of demons is goated as well

[sage loom]

does the game not go to 2880 x 1800?

[copper torrent]

Id heard Mick produce the most epic heavy metal ever composed for a videogame and said "Nah do something else"

[fossil ridge]

On map 17 there is a secret.... ||Where you go into the creepy changing ship then there is a life sigil, but its a massive hell knight trap, then a wraith stone|| . Is it even possible to get out of there without using a life sigil on UV or nightmare? I tried like 4 times and got sick of triggering it so just sucked it up and used one but OMG.

[ripe gull]

sure do wish bethesda actually paid mick on time. mightve still had him with us

[honest vortex]

There's countless 2016 songs I love a lot.

Transistor Fist, Harbinger, Damnation+Hell choirs, Flesh and Metal, VEGA Core, Rip and Tear (game rip), BFG Division, Skullhacker, Rust Dust and Guts.

I thought Damnation+Hell choirs was the coolest music put into a Hell mission in a DOOM game. Atleast music that's originally for Hell missions (Though Infernal Chasm might have topped it)

[frail bloom]

The only ones I like are Damnation, Rust dust and guts, Rip and tear, Bfg division

That's it

[honest vortex]

Skullhacker, Rust Dust and Guts, and Flesh and Metal are the angriest rawest most concentrated DOOM Slayer energy songs Mick Gordon has made. Period.

WTF

[frail bloom]

The others ehhhh
For me

[honest vortex]

Me with Eternal where I only like Gladiator and TOTTFIY

[frail bloom]

See we're all so different

[red aspen]

patch notes says its fixed but what tf i gotta do for it to pop

[honest vortex]

Metal Hell was a bootleg and far less angry version of Rust Dust and Guts.

Super Gore Nest is discount Rip and Tear at home

[ripe gull]

i actually fw david levys music HEAVY

[honest vortex]

The techno that plays on Mars Core is just VEGA Core at home

[frail bloom]

Ye I never cared for those 2

[ripe gull]

i kind wish they kept them too

immora and bloodswamps ost is fire

[honest vortex]

Eternal didn't really have anything like Flesh and Metal.

Though Dark Ages has a couple songs that gives me Flesh and Metal vibes

Infernal Chasm actually reminds me of Flesh and Metal in certain sections even

Flesh and Metal meets Bobby Prince is the best way to describe Infernal Chasm tbh

Skullhacker has the nastiest riff that Mick Gordon has ever done I think

[harsh egret]

i showed it to a friend who loved the ost of dark ages and he closed that shit within seconds

2016 ost is def not for everyone

[tired rock]

Unchained Predator, and that one Ancestral Beast part from the Komodo Champion fight where it's not even included in the official OST track

[sage loom]

nvm figured it out

but its at 30 fps

[jolly geyser]

I reopned the game literally 6 times to get it to auto pop. idk what is required, but it still seems buggy.

sharpening still doesnt work on xbox, but yet it goes up to 20 now lmfao.

[red aspen]

i checked reddit and ppl said it worked on their game (xbox and steam) but ps5 users it still didnt pop

[tired rock]

Fuckin hell that's why, I'm on PS5

[barren warren]

people be sleeping on “what lies below”

hellspawn rift is also a nice simple track that gives off classic doom exploration vibes

[tranquil badge]

the part halfway through the song is just pure groove

[stoic sleet]

Ngl i feel like im starting to like mick more

Currently his songs are rlly good but the annoying ambience and some questionable riff and synth use holds him back imo

[astral quail]

r the crashes fully fixed for pc now? is it safe to get the new drivers yet?

[trail anvil]

that music update/ tune up is 👩‍🍳 💋

[wraith sapphire]

I love this game sm I just won a fight on 1 hp

[mild ocean]

is the shredder even worth using over the piercer?

[hasty stone]

The game saved twice for me and I exited the map, went back into the map and it started over..isn't that suppose to be only for ultra-nightmare? this must be a glitch.
ultra-nightmare needs chapter completion not pandamonium!

[smoky reef]

What difficulty are you playing in?

[boreal locust]

But your progression is still there isn’t it?

[daring flax]

Does anybody know why my berserker trophy didn’t pop even after the patch?

[smoky reef]

Also don't you have the checkpoint saved?

[boreal locust]

You most likely need to do the progress again

[boreal locust]

Shredders pretty good for headshots

[solemn matrix]

I FRIGGIN DID IT ULTRA NIGHTMARE DONE! OMG!!!!!!!

[mild ocean]

nice

[solemn matrix]

#screenshots message - Proudest Moment!!!!

[cobalt fog]

Holy shit I just had a big realization

[hasty stone]

@smoky reef pandemonium

@boreal locust it's not suppose to restart the level...

[placid rock]

am i the only one who found ultra nightmare to be super easy? i mean it was before the update but it just felt very easy

[hasty stone]

Its suppose to save normally

[brazen kestrel]

Dude is anyone else experiencing super game breaking stuff after the update? My guns sometime just wont load, i shoot out of my hands, music keeps crashing, my screen also keeps crashing A LOT and i say this after having completed the game twice in nightmare with NO kind of issue like those

[boreal locust]

Ik it happened to me but my progression was still there

[boreal locust]

Ayy congratulations

[solemn matrix]

Thanks it was like having a heart attack

[hasty stone]

Pandemonium isn't suppose to start the level over

It's suppose to save

[boreal locust]

No better feeling than getting a tough gaming achievement done

[placid rock]

i guess i am the only one who found it easy o.o

[cobalt fog]

Dr Hayden or the seraphim is also the wretch and has to be like here’s why I think so. At the end of doom 2016 our suit has a tether on it and we have only known one set of people who have been known to use a tether so far in doom which is the maykrs as they want to control the slayer right? So what if after the seraphim sees that the slayer doesn’t have a tether he just gives him a new suit with a tether to be teleported or stopped momentarily? What y’all think?

[umbral flint]

Will i get to play the dlc if i play with Game pass?

[real rampart]

it is, you have to complete an entire chapter deathless

if you quit mid chapter will restart the chapter, its intended

[hasty stone]

@real rampart that's not even listed when you select pandemonium if just says it's nightmares difficulty

[real rampart]

if you quit game it will warn you though

[hasty stone]

It just says if you do you restart the chapter, it doesn't say if you leave you have to restart the chapter

What I didn't see a warning

It just says nightmare difficulty when you select it 😦

So I guess they give you 3 life sigils for each map to die

[real rampart]

UN also doesnt tell you that on selection, only when you attempt to leave

[real rampart]

no, it doesnt

[hasty stone]

@real rampart its listed that you have to finish the chapter

[real rampart]

you start at 1 extra life, and you have to collect extra ones in the mission, and if you go to the next chapter with 1/2 extra lifes you will start with those

[remote thunder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1380358721707839580/image.png?ex=684396bd&is=6842453d&hm=1586e3e9af6429efc8e338ac3009bfd18ec82b8b93120a45bf6c13decb410b55&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[hasty stone]

@remote thunder it doesn't say if you leave that you have to rester...

Only if you die...

So they should probably add the notes in you need to finish the chapter

[real rampart]

fair, but imo its not a big deal

[hasty stone]

Just weird it's not listed

[real rampart]

UN is not listed either

[hasty stone]

They kinda trick u

[real rampart]

UN warns you when you quit

that you will have to restart the chapter, only they didnt put the same message on pandemonium, but not a huge deal

[solemn matrix]

I Did my first play through on UN and My First Run on the Game on UN.

[hasty stone]

They def made a mistake then it should say that lol

Maybe they will fix that

[solemn matrix]

The only warning UN gives is at the Main Menu and that is it when selecting difficulty.

[hasty stone]

Ah ok, but pandemonium doesn't give you that warning

So guess they messed up

[solemn matrix]

I want Doom Slayer to say something in the DLC. Even if it is one word lol!

So Far it is “No” and “Run”

[placid rock]

dont forget "rip and tear"

[real rampart]

it doesnt, its at the game on the pause menu. I just tested this

[solemn matrix]

That sucks I thought it did

Still watching the credits still as I just finished UN.

Just soaking it in.

[real rampart]

congrats, I died midgame, so I will attempt another day

[slim shuttle]

Someone tagged me asking if noticed a swap speed change. Just wanted to say I haven't played and I can't til like Tuesday. Too much work.

[hasty stone]

@real rampart what about pandamonium?

[fiery sentinel]

So do you just keep opening the game again and again to get berserker to pop up?

[real rampart]

it doesnt have the same warning message when you attempt to quit

[hasty stone]

@real rampart ok I guess they should fix that lol I had no idea it wouldn't save

[solemn matrix]

Last Skin is now the Reverent Skin and I will have them all including the Ultra Nightmare and Nightmare Skins, Limited Time Ones - Controller, Pizza, Juvee, Twitch, Mail, Preorder, NVIDIA App, and the $2,000 USD Legionary! … Still waiting on PHALANX SKIN!

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom mayo answered ur question a few msgs ago

or sorta didnt, but yeah

[frail bloom]

He said he doesn't know lol

I'm his number 1 tagger
Do with that info what yu will

am I being annoying

[harsh egret]

lmfao i doubt he really cares

i think he would say if he didnt wanna get pinged a long time ago now

[frail bloom]

Yeh lol
Making the rev concept rn, it's actually kind of hard to make them menacing so it may take me awhile

[honest vortex]

There's a post calling Dark Ages their favorite game on the trilogy on r/Doom and they're getting downvoted to oblivion

[frail bloom]

Well what did they say

[harsh egret]

revenants are one of my favourite designs in tda so im looking forward

[honest vortex]

Errmm wot?

Was Skullhacker too heavy/crazy sounding for them?

[harsh egret]

oh yeah xd

he likes metal in the style of what dark ages has

[honest vortex]

Interesting. Dark Ages has some ridiculously heavy songs too. Surprised he loved it, when Into the Void exists

[harsh egret]

he doesnt like mick gordons tracks at all really

[honest vortex]

Tbf I'm not really big on Mick Gordon, outside of 2016. Admittedly.

2016 was his lightning in a bottle OST.

I also liked some Killer Instinct songs as well

Mick Gordon generally gets too dubstep djenty for my tastes, and not enough cool basslines or drumming or percussion

[harsh egret]

i think i have a higher number of tracks from dark ages that i like than in eternal or 2016 tbh

but mick has made some iconic stuff for sure, and i still listen to many of the tracks

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages might be my favorite OST, and then 2016, and then Eternal at the lowest of the three

[harsh egret]

for me its dark ages - eternal - 2016 but they all do kinda sit pretty tight together

[honest vortex]

Mick did have some good songs in Eternal like Gladiator and TOTTFIY. But overall I didn't fw it that much compared to 2016 and Dark Ages

[real crater]

i like how mick gordon shook it up with the "dubstep" elements it made you realize it wasnt just any other metal soundtrack it didnt just feel like ambient demon slaying music

[honest vortex]

What are their favorite dark Ages songs?

[honest vortex]

The friend's?

[honest vortex]

I like the glitchy elements that 2016 had. But Eternal felt like it went full on dubstep at times, like the Doom Hunter boss battle theme song

[harsh egret]

From the ashes is nr1 for him

iirc he also loves unholy siege and infernal chasm

[honest vortex]

Infernal Chasm surprises me since it feels very Mick Gordon coded to me

It reminds me of Flesh and Metal from 2016 tbh

[hard thistle]

Hex and Flame, Battle on the Blackened Tide, Atlan Battleground and Blood Red are just a few of my favorites.

[harsh egret]

Yh i myself dont have infernal chasm that far up my list tbh

Its alright

[honest vortex]

He kept talking about how it reminded him of Classic DOOM.

Though there were a few criticisms he had like he thought the chaingunners were as evil as DOOM II, but he felt the game didn't use them enough

[hard thistle]

I love the styles of each composer, from full on metal, to synthetic djent, to haunting analog, from Bobby to Finishing Move, all the DOOM games have crazy great soundtracks!

[harsh egret]

What lies below, from the ashes and into the void i think are my top 3 atm

[honest vortex]

Oh dam. I love it. It's a favorite of mine

[frail bloom]

Bro got downvoted for that! His opinion is that hated? He's not even wrong

[slender bramble]

Will they ever make a doom zombie skin, the cut scene that he turn into?

[hard thistle]

Infernal Chasm, Unchained Predator, Unholy Siege and From The Ashes are the best in the Dark Ages, though! Without question!

[honest vortex]

Also some of my favorites as well.

Ancestral Beast Komodo demon in-game version is also incredible

Ahzrak and the Witch had awesome music as well

[honest vortex]

Because r/Doom thinks Eternal's the best thing ever and you're objectively wrong if you prefer another DOOM game.

r/DOOM also seems to have a hateboner for Dark Ages

[harsh egret]

And thats why i never go on that shitty subreddit

[honest vortex]

That's the spirit!

[frail bloom]

He just said it was classic doom like and he loved it for that!

Jeez

[harsh egret]

I see enough bad takes and weird ppl on twitter already as it is, i don't need to go to the reddit as well

[south fern]

Did they make the game more difficult?

[harsh egret]

Ye pretty crazy lol

[honest vortex]

Here's his post.

I don't get what's wrong with what he said lol:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043033811941863475/1380367486880452618/Screenshot_20250605-190720.png?ex=68439ee6&is=68424d66&hm=4b911badafc27320b7fa42ba589795870967921d02ebd266f5e3d659af4b355a&

[harsh egret]

Overall yes

[limber laurel]

has anyone seen this happen?

https://youtu.be/n_PphjhLxDw?si=RaVi1hMqmaKUMj4m

explanation in description. happened before the patch

you can see I retained the yellow key at the top of the screen

[honest vortex]

Wouldn't be surprised if "too much reading" is also why it got downvoted

[frail bloom]

Bro he was just being honest like seriously.

I hope he gets what he wants for dlc

5 chaingunners 🔥

[harsh egret]

God forbid a person enjoying dark ages

[harsh egret]

Ye ngl i think we might see some crazy chaingunner usage in dlc/master levels lol

[honest vortex]

Unironically one of the best and most thought out posts I've seen in Reddit in a minute

[frail bloom]

Some plutonia level stuff c'mon

Lost souls, revs and chaingunners are very opressive

Add some komodos

[honest vortex]

But Reddit hates good posts. I feel they're allergic to good posts

[frail bloom]

Now yu got an encounter

[placid rock]

skiiiiiiiins i want to look like either a gladiator or a demon

[uneven dragon]

it's industrial </3

[frail bloom]

LANCER MUH BOIIII

[lime plinth]

i think im the only one who finds atlan mech gameplay fun

[placid rock]

nope i find them awesome too

[harsh egret]

I also do!

[lime plinth]

peak!

[frail bloom]

I find it fun too, same with dragon

And for literally no good reason, I would not mind if they dissapeared for dlc or forever I just enjoy the ride

[harsh egret]

The atlan segments r actually in a rly good state atm

[frail bloom]

But maybe they need to go

[harsh egret]

Dragon is SO much more fun now after the patch dude

[placid rock]

also because im a dragon fanatic by campaign alone this is the best doom campaign hands down just due to the dragon sections to me lol

[lime plinth]

unless they expand on atlan gameplay im inclined to agree

[frail bloom]

What did the patch do I haven't used the dragon in the new update

[harsh egret]

Like imo they fixed any issues I had with the dragon segments

[honest vortex]

They're pretty cool

I like canceling punches with the dodges

[frail bloom]

Ye they can go now, but they were fun for what they were

[harsh egret]

Retains the buff from dodging longer, made every attack dodgeable now instead of having to wait for the next dodgeable attack to come to give u the buff

[honest vortex]

It's just I think people have higher expectations for mech combat ever since Titanfall 2

[frail bloom]

I honestly have no clue what you're saying rn

[uneven dragon]

it's crazy how good the ost for this game is

[tired rock]

Atlan mechanics is good, fact that every mechanics for Slayer, Serrat, and Atlan is damn good, it's just that the enemy that you fought for these 2 (Serrat and Atlan) feels underwhelming for me.

[honest vortex]

This begs the question....

Do y'all like Dark Ages or Titanfall 2 more?

[harsh egret]

And i think they deleted the top turret on the tutorial part for the dragon so that shit is instantaneous

[frail bloom]

Very much so

[honest vortex]

Nice pfp change

[placid rock]

thats a tough one

[uneven dragon]

thank you

[tired rock]

Hard question

[harsh egret]

Lmao wdym

[honest vortex]

Bowser Jr. is gone

[frail bloom]

Like what does any of that look like

[uneven dragon]

it hurt abandoning bowser jr but then i remembered that lancer is like the bowser jr of deltarune really

[frail bloom]

We must welcome the change

[harsh egret]

U know how u get an attack buff after u dodge attacks

[uneven dragon]

he'll be back soon cause he's my fave

[honest vortex]

This begs the question. What do you think of Super Mario Sunshine?

[frail bloom]

Sure

[harsh egret]

So u destroy hell ships and shit easier

[frail bloom]

The blue thing ye

[harsh egret]

Yeah that buff lasts longer now, so u can destroy a hellship in one turn easily

[uneven dragon]

tbhhh im kind of meh on that game

[frail bloom]

Huh is that it

[placid rock]

gonna be playing dark ages right now just to enjoy that

[harsh egret]

And every attack now is a hellsurge attack as well, so u dont have to wait slowly for the next one that gives u the buff

[honest vortex]

I loved it for awhile, but 100%ing can be really tedious and the game is very glitchy.

I think Odyssey is much better

[frail bloom]

Oh sweet

[harsh egret]

It feels so much faster and satisfying to play

[frail bloom]

So yu can clear it so much quicker then

[harsh egret]

Like i actually love the dragon segments now xd

[frail bloom]

Why did they not do this the 5 yrs they were developing it lol

Would've helped a lot, better late than never I guess

[honest vortex]

Though surprising to hear that about the game that introduced Bowser Jr

[harsh egret]

Welp thats a question to ask indeed..

[uneven dragon]

i actually... still havent played odyssey :(

[uneven dragon]

oh i love that part of it don't get me wrong

tbh i havent played any official mario games in a while (i will get around to odyssey and wonder soon)

[honest vortex]

Though idk why but I am going to guess Galaxy 2 is your favorite 3D Mario?

Just a feeling

[uneven dragon]

most recent mario thing i played was a huge tremendous mario fangame called Betterified VI

[stoic sleet]

Odyssey top 1 mario game

[uneven dragon]

Galaxy and Galaxy 2 yeah

mario 64 is also up there cause of nostalgia

[honest vortex]

Yes. IMO it's the best Nintendo game in general.

[stoic sleet]

Breath of the Wild?

[honest vortex]

Sunshine's probably my 2nd 3D Mario favorite, but it's definitely very flawed

[uneven dragon]

which had a whole 30 SECONDS OF SCREENTIME for my GOAT bowser jr

[honest vortex]

I love the movement, hub world, and pretty water in Sunshine

[honest vortex]

I preferred Tears of the Kingdom tbh.

Though I don't like open world Zelda as much as say, Twilight Princess for example.

[stoic sleet]

Totk was too ambitious

[honest vortex]

Also Twilight Princess Zelda was hot. Ngl

[stoic sleet]

Too large

Too empty

[frail bloom]

Where doom

[stoic sleet]

This is the Nintendo discord

[honest vortex]

Tbf you go to the depths and fight demons in Tears of the Kingdom

[frail bloom]

But doom

[stoic sleet]

SUCH FUCKS FOCUS DUCTS

[honest vortex]

Link also wears green.

He's Doomguy but Nintendo

[frail bloom]

Wut

[stoic sleet]

Friday why Uber snoop ski sub sub will one all in bcs eh ca eh jest fire sh very risk scale tables then ham hack puddle

[frail bloom]

[stoic sleet]

It at dc bo if at bo in bed de ru ht fe ru had f gd ft im bd de to job cd sh x see RT HD see thy fw EU js to be un be h bc you ig see j dry if ST see in Sbcs so

[honest vortex]

Doomguy's just angry Mario anyway.

Have you played Mars Core? Mario Galaxy level.

[uneven dragon]

damn i wanna play mars core now

[stoic sleet]

Ive played galaxy 1 but not 2, if its in one what galaxy name?

[honest vortex]

I remember Decino pretending to be Mario on his Mars Core video and making "Yahoo sounds" lmao

[frail bloom]

Decino probably won't even touch tda lol

[uneven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/betterified-vi-riddle-rhombus-bowser-jr-mario-smbx-gif-6449900115533098459

[honest vortex]

I think he said he lost interest in modern DOOM because he only cares about WADs now or something like that

[uneven dragon]

shame

[frail bloom]

Ye that's what I'm referring to, shame cuz it plays the most like it

[honest vortex]

Also I think the story and ending of The Ancient Gods soured him a lot

[honest vortex]

He thought it was really really really dumb

Which it was tbf

[uneven dragon]

TAG is shit story wise lol

and TAG 2 is also pretty mid gameplay wise

but TAG 1's gameplay...ouuhhugh... my beloved... .

[frail bloom]

Lore wise it was fine

[uneven dragon]

lore wise it was ASS bro

[frail bloom]

It was

[honest vortex]

It's also unfortunate as he really liked Eternal before the DLCs happened

He liked 2016 as well

Do y'all know Clockner?

[finite sequoia]

Should I attempt ultra nightmare now? Or sleep?

[honest vortex]

Yup.

[frail bloom]

Sleep

[frail bloom]

I forgor what happened

[honest vortex]

What was done to Samuel and VEGA will never be forgiven

[frail bloom]

What did he do again

[vagrant path]

Anyone else having a really nasty ghosting/smearing effect in their graphics?
I'm on xbox series x and pretty much every level I play, I notice at the edges of my view and even in normal gameplay a strange smearing between movement.

[uneven dragon]

VEGA was more excusable than Samuel if im being fr

[frail bloom]

Maybe turn off motion blur

[uneven dragon]

VEGA already had maykr markings on his console, was rumoured to be somewhat made from a strange artifact, and had UAC employees rumouring it to be "arcane" from just Doom 2016 alone

[frail bloom]

Was it the seraphim thinf

[honest vortex]

Agreed though I still don't like it

[uneven dragon]

Samuel just had FUCK ALL in 2016 that hinted he was a Maykr tho. Total ass pull. Unless you wanna stretch incredibly fucking hard and say the "dark priest" comment in Kadingir was about him and "priest = maykr" or smth

[frail bloom]

Oh that

Fair

[honest vortex]

Idk why but Titan's Realm is ...so fucking awesome

I know that was random, but I replayed Titan's Realm yesterday and it's just a glorious masterpiece of a level

[honest vortex]

Also Damnation and the Hell choirs are SOOOO fucking good. Hnnnggh

Damnation actually sounds like an angry Hellish version of the Halo theme if you think about it 😂

[honest vortex]

Side note: I don't see this brought up often.

But Samuel's voice and delivery sounded....off ....in Eternal compared to 2016.

Just the way he talked and sounded.

Darin DePaul had a weird filter on his Eternal voice performance that was different from 2016's and his delivery isn't anywhere near as intimidating or impactful

He also sounded deeper I think?

[uneven dragon]

Yeah VEGA and Samuel sounded way off

[uneven dragon]

Damnation is my favourite "theme of Hell" for the series

[honest vortex]

Same.

Infernal Chasm is probably 2nd though for me

[uneven dragon]

Infernal Chasm and Metal Hell are cool of course but they didn't sound like HELL

idk if the other games have """hell themes""" so

Doom 3 has HellsBells but that's not even really a theme so much as stuff that gets thrown into the ambience sometimes lol

[honest vortex]

Rust Dust and Guts sounds more like Hell than Metal Hell does.

Which is funny because Rust Dust and Guts plays on an industrial tech base level. 😂

[frail bloom]

I guess cuz infernal chasm and metal hell are for the slayer kinda while damnation is literally one of the most opressive doom tracks ever made

It's hells theme kinda

[honest vortex]

The Hell choirs are so fucking badass it's insane

[frail bloom]

We need another track like damnation

With orchestra, choir, tagelharpa and no metal

[honest vortex]

Infernal Chasm kinda feels like something that would play on Arc Complex or something

[uneven dragon]

it's also funny you mention that... because metal hell is mostly a reinterpolated rust duts and guts...

[frail bloom]

FM PLEASE

[honest vortex]

That's actually why I mentioned it 😆

[uneven dragon]

lol

the sign of evil reference of Damnation (III. DAKHMA on the album) is so fucking awesome

[frail bloom]

Oh ye the list I wanted to share

[uneven dragon]

damnation still has metal parts tbh

[honest vortex]

Damnation made you feel the most badass too.

Like you actually felt like you were fucking up the most evil, photorealistic, and powerful part of Hell

[frail bloom]

Not as much and isn't the forefront for the heavier parts it's all choir for those

[honest vortex]

You were in the REAL Hell itself, and you were fucking things up

[frail bloom]

And like really aggressive drums

[uneven dragon]

i prefer when doom feels like Slayer vs the Demons or Slayer and the demons being equivalents

rather than Demons vs the Slayer (though tbh it works quite well for when you're nearing the end of the game)

[honest vortex]

Infernal Chasm kinda sounds like...idk a really intense fight, but like Doomguy's kinda done it before? Idk

[uneven dragon]

Hell on Earth is probably the best track for this. it feels both oppressive from the instruments and heaviness of it but also the repetitive beat feels REALLY in your favour yk

like the main riff really syncs well with glory killing

but also it feels really heavy like youre fighting against the demons rather than vice versa

[honest vortex]

Damnation also feels like this is the VERY first time Doomguy's experienced this version of Hell.

Like it's a completely brand new experience to him

His mind is being blown that Hell is this crazy

[barren warren]

the dlc or master levels better have a fight with 1 of each super heavy at once

or 4 komodos i guess

[frail bloom]

1. Demons on the prey
2. Sign of evil
3. They're going to get you
4. Sinister
5. Shawns got the shotgun
6. Dave d taylor blues
7. Message for the archvile
8. Waiting for romero to play

I would really like these for dlc

They're all foreboding

[uneven dragon]

i'd like references if they tied into the current situation somehow

[honest vortex]

Kinda like how Spartans feel equal to Elites in Halo

[frail bloom]

My selected references kinda do, they're not as upbeat and more grungy and sinister

[uneven dragon]

for example the Doom 64 Theme in Hebeth/Atlan Battleground. it works on multiple levels because it's not only a sick af callback to the main theme of doom but also the plot of doom 64 is returning to mars and on hebeth youre returning to mars

[frail bloom]

Do yu really need all that to include a reference

[uneven dragon]

you don't but when it does happen i appreciate it a lot more

[frail bloom]

Include it if it fits within the tone yu established

[uneven dragon]

I would like to hear Running From Evil in another modern doom song
it was weirdly absent from Eternal i think
it's only in one battlemode victory theme and MAYBE in a random cutscene in mars core...?

[frail bloom]

They WERE gonna do more but they were worried abt their place in the franchise

[honest vortex]

Does anyone notice that Damnation literally sounds like the Halo theme but Hell-ified?

[frail bloom]

No I need the underrated tracks to have their spotlight

Might get rid of sign of evil ngl

[uneven dragon]

Sign of Evil is in numerous modern doom songs

[honest vortex]

That "Dun dundun dun dundun dun, dundundun dun dun"

[frail bloom]

Ye that's what I'm saying

Ig replace it with RFE

[uneven dragon]

Sign of Evil is in

• Hellwalker, III. DAKHMA, Damnation (Doom 2016)
• Welcome Home Great Slayer (Eternal)
• COLD AS HELL (Mighty Doom)

[frail bloom]

Yup

[honest vortex]

I remember playing 2016 Titan's Realm one time in front of one of my buds and they said "is that a Hell version of the Halo theme?"

[frail bloom]

What abt waiting for romero to play?

Oh wait IT NEVER GOT ONE

NEITHER DID MESSAGE FOR THE ARCHVILE

I don't care abt asteroids and rockets anyway

Hey I'm right!

[uneven dragon]

nah fuck Doom II fuck allat

Final Doom: TNT references WHEN.

[frail bloom]

NOOOOO

[uneven dragon]

I wanna hear Smells Like Burning Corpse in a modern doom game

[barren warren]

still waiting for them to reference tnt evilution’s original tracks (system control, wormhole, storage facility, steel works)

[frail bloom]

In that case

SKELETON WORLD from LoR

Thank me later

[uneven dragon]

FAXXXX BRO FAX

[honest vortex]

1993 E2M1 is my favorite song in Classic DOOM.

Ever

[barren warren]

i feel like a steel works homage track could work for the cosmic realm

[uneven dragon]

THE SKELETON WORLD is actually a remix of Welcome to Die! from Legacy of Rust's first level

[uneven dragon]

smells like burning corpse would work really well for an intro

[frail bloom]

Ye I know but the skeleton world is not as upbeat, more aggressive and would fit in the new modern style

[uneven dragon]

whats that one ominous/stealth sounding one called. blood jungle? that would work for cosmic realm

[frail bloom]

No one has remixed it yet it's insane

[uneven dragon]

it's not existed for long enough
it literally couldn't have been in TDA based on when LoR was made lol

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages NEEDS I Sawed the Demons in the DLCs or the game will be literally unplayable

[frail bloom]

Thank yu

[frail bloom]

Ye I know dude for dlc tho

[uneven dragon]

i think they stay away from that one given how much it's a BLATANT rip off like even more than the rest of the doom 1 ost

[frail bloom]

It could happen(copium)

[barren warren]

the funny boing soundtrack

[uneven dragon]

tbf tho into sandy's city is also really blatantly a ripoff of sex type thing but it's in like 5 doom games

[frail bloom]

GIVE ME MESSAGE FOR THE ARCHVILE

[uneven dragon]

YOU GOT IT IN ASTEROIDS AND ROCKETS GRAHHH

[frail bloom]

NOOOO THE TDA SOUND IS MORE FITTING FOR IT

[warm kettle]

Anyone else having an issue with the campaign won’t progress since the new update???

[frail bloom]

GIVE ME DAVE D TAYLOR BLUES WHILE YOU'RE AT IT

[barren warren]

legion of the lost could definitely work as a sentinel track

[honest vortex]

I remember Bobby Prince describing how he knew exactly how much he could rip off a song without bringing a lawsuit

[uneven dragon]

LEGION OF THE LOST NEEDS A REFERENCE OML

[real crater]

fr

[uneven dragon]

TNT gets weirdly sombre at times

[frail bloom]

I would ping alex but I would feel like a nuisance for suggesting smt so I just have to hope that they looked at some classic tracks

Should I ping him

[barren warren]

the only thing keeping me sane during those long ass maps halfway through the game were the soundtracks

[honest vortex]

Kinda funny how we still have E1M1 as the main theme even for the newer games

[real crater]

i would say bye bye american pie should get referenced but they'd probably get sued by alice in chains (i dont know how they didnt earlier) the second the dlc released

[frail bloom]

Offer some suggestions hmmm

[honest vortex]

Despite being a rip off

[uneven dragon]

not in TDA!

[barren warren]

i was honestly surprised they did this

[uneven dragon]

tbh it's weird that they didn't just make the doom PSX theme the main theme of the modern games given it was pratically the theme of Doom already

but TDA had the Doom PSX theme at least!

[frail bloom]

The what???

[honest vortex]

Yeah I don't recall hearing it in TDA.

So that's why Act Man was disappointed in the Dark Ages!

[uneven dragon]

Doom PlayStation theme (which was also used for Final Doom PSX and Doom 64)

[barren warren]

does from the ashes even homage anything

[frail bloom]

[real crater]

the demons dead riff is so good it has to be in the dlc or im boycotting id (even though i havent paid for any of their games to begin with)

[frail bloom]

Should I ping the music composer hmmmmmm

Hmmmmmmmm

[barren warren]

honestly i feel like when the shadows first lengthened could also work as the intro/ending cutscene theme

[frail bloom]

Or would it be too egregious

[barren warren]

my personal favorite menu theme of all 3 modern games

[frail bloom]

Hmmmm

[real crater]

true

[barren warren]

when i booted up the game at zero hour it hit like a fucking truck

[real crater]

i heard eternal's intro and i thought "how could it get any better" the i heard dark ages intro and it was levels above eternal's

[frail bloom]

I'm guessing no then

[barren warren]

it always bugged me how the ending part of eternal’s intro sounds a bit muffled

[real crater]

finishing move is in here?

[frail bloom]

Alex klingle, one of the composers, is in here

Although I'm not sure if I should be suggesting stuff

[real crater]

sweet i hope i run into him one day

[frail bloom]

Ye I guess I just have to wait till he's online or smt

[real crater]

but ifyou're lurking the chat rn i wont boycott id because you dont put a doom 2 song in the soundtrack i dont wanna make you feel bad

[frail bloom]

I am perplexed

One one hand, I can offer a tiny suggestion and possibly change history

On the otherhand, I'm an asshole

Hmmmmmmm

Damn

Idk

[uneven dragon]

TDA only has a couple of homages/references in general tbh

[barren warren]

yeah, makes sense when you think about it

since out of the 3, it’s trying the most to be its own thing

[uneven dragon]

Dark Halls - Cosmic Sea/Into the Void/What Lies Below
Nobody Told Me About id - Ancestral Beast
Countdown to Death - Infernal Chasm
Doom 64 Theme - Atlan Battleground

[split gate]

”No, I don’t want people enjoying a game I don’t like! I’m right! Wahh wahh wahh.” Doom fans nowadays

[warm kettle]

Anyone having an issue progressing the campaign in Doom TDA since the new update???

[twilit pumice]

That issue seems to be with Nu Doomers.
My brother doesn't love TDA as much as me, which is perfectly fine. His modern favorite is still 2016.

[split gate]

Oh yeah, it’s specifically those fans

[twilit pumice]

Everyone here is seemingly chill as fuck and engage in our shared passion. Feels like a proper community and I just fucking love it.

[split gate]

And just about any fandom in particular

[split gate]

Yes, I’d rather be here than anywhere else, this place is chill

[heavy python]

Any news on the ps5 berserker bug. Been less than a day but still

Have they at least acknowledged it

[split gate]

Is it still not working for you? There was an update released hours ago that addressed the issue apparently

[heavy python]

Yeah ik. Still not working for most ps5 users

[split gate]

Ah, sorry bro, I can’t help out much in that department, I haven’t heard from them since the update

[finite sequoia]

Chat should I attempt a modified ultra nightmare first and just get the skin then attempt to beat it normally?

[split gate]

I personally would do an unmodified UN run because I feel it’s more worth it but it’s up to you boss

[finite sequoia]

I’m probably gonna try doing a nightmare and ultra nightmare at the same time but I really don’t want to burn myself out of the game just for doomguy but gold so idk:/

[split gate]

Oh any reason why you’re doing them at the same time, you have all the time in the world to do one at a time

[fallen notch]

@split gate how do u get pfp frame/gif?

[finite sequoia]

Do the mission on nightmare to practice for ultra nightmare

[split gate]

The shield profile pic? It was a limited event bro, it ended weeks ago

[fallen notch]

Ohh gotcha mb

[split gate]

All good gang

[split gate]

That’s clever, I guess it depends, I usually play other games if I get burnt out, it happens eventually if you play too much of something

[bold merlin]

finished the game! this was so fun and full of lore, i wonder if there is gonna be a dlc

[solemn matrix]

Does sliders disable unlocks?

[pliant sonnet]

what's the deal with the arachnotron?