the-dark-ages

[graceful lion]

https://imgur.com/a/R5KfsP9

[thin zinc]

did they say they're speeding it up or something?

[barren shell]

i hope so

there's no point of many weapons if most people are just gonna use SSG or Chainshot

[graceful lion]

i dont think tda was made with quickswapping in mind

[thin zinc]

it doesnt need to be doom eternal fast, just not so sluggish

[graceful lion]

either way modders are probably gonna add it in once they figure out how

[uneven mortar]

Yeah they say it wont be quickswapping speed but it will be faster and smoother

[candid jay]

it only gets a bit faster after you shield bash apparently but i'm not sure if that's intended part of mechanic or random bug

[graceful lion]

i guess its some timing thing then, like theres a shorter timeframe until it switches to a new weapon

[candid jay]

not sure, just rmber seeing someone made a vid on it, its way quicker if u try to quickswap after a bash

that speed should be by default for all weapons without the need to do that tho, or just a 30-50% speed increase is better the current default swap speed is extremely sluggish, or add an upgrade for it idk

[barren shell]

I think also when u do aerial glory kill/execution

[frail plaza]

i think its technically not a cancel and more the "cooldown" of a shot still happening during the bash

[candid jay]

no, like the quickswap after the bash is fast for all weapons not just once, like if u keep quickswapping itll be at a faster speed than the default speed (if you stop itll just revert to default speed)

[plucky haven]

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOQsKu_S_Bw ||

cut content i found on youtube

[open abyss]

wait omg this is so cool wtf

Sentinel axe 👀

[barren shell]

when will we fight the champion titan

in the dlc?

[graceful lion]

possibly

[barren shell]

before I though ahzrak was the titan cuz their faces look the same

[graceful lion]

we dont know shit about the dlcs yet bro, game hasnt been out for a month

[barren shell]

true

[graceful lion]

im hoping for master levels or a campaign in the coming months

[barren shell]

I just realized that there were tentacles in TAG 1 in the underwater bit maybe they were the same as the cosmic realm tentacles

[graceful lion]

yeah, i believe since the cosmic realm was slowly consumed by hell, their creations were slowly hellified

like the cosmic baron, the tentacles, the cacodemons

[dry epoch]

Will you think the disc version of d.a will change in the future? I wanna buy it but it bothers me that it needs internet connection to be downloaded.

[split gate]

Did anyone get to watch Romero play TDA, I missed out, I wanna know what his thoughts were

[graceful lion]

nope, nothing can be done about it unfortunately, uhh, other than things that we cant talk about on this server

[dry epoch]

Oh man, so it’s only gonna be a plain disc with its cover on it.

[fierce sail]

do you guys maybe know how to use noclip?

[fierce sail]

yeah, I\d like to see this too

[fierce sail]

https://youtu.be/vsemZY8bX5Q

[split gate]

Legend

[calm hare]

there isn't
i can't post a scrshot here, is it some channel/server restriction?

fix: i have it. it just isn't on a games list on left steam panel

[plain tartan]

Hello, doom

Doom Dark Ages

[calm hare]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3698350/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages__Premium_Upgrade but how to dwnld ost here? I don't see an option

Steam

DOOM: The Dark Ages - Premium Upgrade

Stand and Fight with the Premium Upgrade*, including the campaign DLC**, Digital Artbook and Soundtrack, and the Divinity Skin Pack, which includes matching skins for the DOOM Slayer, dragon and Atlan.

INCLUDES:…

▶ Play video

[fierce sail]

you should see it on steam under TOOLS not in game library, in TOOLS library

[past yarrow]

Name's the dark ages, doom the dark ages.

[calm hare]

thanks. Why tools, not soundtrack library

[plain tartan]

Doom The Dark Ages

[fossil heron]

I'm losing hope and Bethesda haven't respond my ticket for void doom slayer skin 😦

[empty sable]

Did you pre-order?

[barren shell]

wdym what happened

[frail plaza]

some devs are weird with the labeling, some artbook/soundtracks are labeled as soundtracks, some tools and some even as games

[fluid zephyr]

Can someone help me with the alt tabbing problem? tried searching through the internet didnt really work

[fossil heron]

yes, I blame Amazon UK for delaying my preorder :/

[foggy berry]

Will there be a multiplayer mode in The Dark Ages?

[empty sable]

Between you and me, and everyone else here Amazon sucks.

[fossil heron]

Yeah 😦

[empty sable]

Sounds like they gave you a late batch and screwed you over.

Bethesda should still eventually be able to you help if you have a screenshot of the order# and date. Trying to get help from Amazon when things mess up is pulling an arm and leg, they're only good for things that are smooth.

[vital rapids]

Did you check your mail/spam box? Amazon sent the codes out by mail and are great at triggering spam filters

Also I would ask Amazon support. If they didn't send the code they can probably fix it

I agree it's a nightmare getting past their chat bot etc but it can be done

[fossil heron]

nope I think

[empty sable]

Yeah, the codes are separate. You should probably have 3. At least it was 3 on PC.

[fossil heron]

I checked in spam folder

[vital rapids]

Then I would tell Amazon they didn't send the code. It's a thing you paid them for that they didn't give you

Never let that fly man, especially with them

[empty sable]

You could try their automated system or just instant chat. Sometimes works better than calling.

[vital rapids]

Subject would be "Here's your promotional credit from your recent Amazon order". If it isn't there, Amazon needs to fix it

[fossil heron]

there's no support other than replace or return

[vital rapids]

Presumably you checked the nvidia app

[fossil heron]

Ugh not sure which issue I need to choose

[ancient herald]

Just email support

[empty sable]

The one where you get to talk to somebody about your issue lol

[ancient herald]

Or talk, yep

[fossil heron]

theres no email support

choose issue like arrived too late etc

[empty sable]

There should be some kind of chat support.

Too late is probably the right answer.

[fossil heron]

Doing chat now

seems unhelpful

I can't type into chat

[empty sable]

If you click enough choices the bot will transfer you to a customer representative.

[fossil heron]

I got associate to chat

[ancient herald]

Main: [phone]

Toll-free: [phone] or [phone]

[e-mail]

[fossil heron]

that's USA

doesnt matter im chatting with associate now

but thank you

[ancient herald]

Yes, their it's their corporate HQ in Seattle.

[fossil heron]

Welp I have hard to explain them about pre-order bonus code

funny they asked how much is promo, I explained them code was for video game etc

[empty sable]

Clearly not gamers.

[fossil heron]

Seems doesn't work, ill contact Bethesda to get them attention for my ticket I submitted last month

[empty sable]

Yeah, sounds about how I thought the visit to Amazon support would go lol

[fossil heron]

they offered me 20% refund I am unsure to accept

But I really want void doom slayer skin :/

[empty sable]

Damn, that's nice. Just remember you can only wear one cosmetic at a time lol

I think Divinity looks the best, even better than the all gold.

[fossil heron]

Yeah I know I like nvidia more

[empty sable]

That's the one that I wore throughout the game. NVIDIA. Green glowing.

[fossil heron]

glowing green 😄

[empty sable]

Seems to the be the only one with the glowing symbol on shield. I could be wrong.

[fossil heron]

yes it is

[empty sable]

I just wish they'd give us a full silver one again.

[fossil heron]

refunded and thank you for helping, my fellow doom anyway

[empty sable]

np now you got some money back. Not bad. Plenty of other skins and future ones(most likely)

[fossil heron]

Gotcha 🙂

[twilit pumice]

What? No. Lol
I don't play on higher speed cuz everything is sped up. Like speech.

If I haven't been playing Wolfenstein machine games, I'd be swapping between rocket launcher and grenade launcher.

[vital rapids]

Hey that's not bad. Depending on where you live 20% is not far off getting premium upgrade for free as compensation 👍

Maybe if you're lucky Bethesda will give you the skin as well. It is the least that can be done for a paying gamer going through this inconvenience imo

[primal mauve]

is so damnit cool!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7vTLV2aY8&ab_channel=AWEme

[fossil heron]

I closed ticket unfortunately cause I gave up

[vital rapids]

I haven't really tried the skins. I just sort of collect them without really seeing them in use

I think id might have pokemonized us slightly man, there's almost no point in wanting the skins 😂

[fierce sail]

J. Romero's stream is quite fun to watch 🙂

[vital rapids]

I love that he clearly still regularly plays FPS games

[fossil heron]

I would love to have glowing purple skin for doom slayer like DE had, Arch Ville one

[vital rapids]

Purple would be cool.
Gonna bluepurplify my game projectiles and parries at some point I think
But not until I'm sure I won't die from doing so 😂

[empty sable]

Or DOOMicorn strikes once again! lol

[vital rapids]

is that a pink one?

[fossil heron]

hell yeah!!!

[empty sable]

White and pink.

[vital rapids]

Nice

[south haven]

changed to xess to try and fix awful performance after latest patch, now the game crashes every time i open it. any fix?

[open abyss]

Yall, I'm about to do a nightmare run now that I finished my first playthrough. Any suggestions for sliders? I'm probably going to make the game speed a bit faster, make the projectiles faster, and shorten the parry window

[vital rapids]

only the obvious one

[south haven]

whats that

[vital rapids]

To disable xess again. Also, what awful performance? You got problems?

[fierce sail]

guys, how many gold and gems left for you after you updated all stuff and found all secrets in the game?

[south haven]

how do i disable xess when the game crashes on startup now? and i didnt play for 2 days and got 10fps now, tried to hotfix by fiddling with the settings, turned on xess and now it just crashes when i start it up

[fierce sail]

make config backup, and delete config, game should make new fresh default config (do not delete backup!)

[south haven]

do you know what directory thats in and its name?

[fierce sail]

you are steam?

[south haven]

on gamepass, but its probably similar

found configs folder and a microsoftgame.config

[fierce sail]

\Saved Games\id Software\DOOMTheDarkAges\base

[fierce sail]

oh

[south haven]

whats the name of the config file

[vital rapids]

I think the graphics settings are hidden in a binary but that could be wrong for gamepass
%USERPROFILE%\Saved Games\id Software\DOOMTheDarkAges\base\ is where you can find a file named DOOMTheDarkAges.local where you might be able to override specific graphics settings. There's also a .cfg file but don't use that one as it is cloud synced

[fierce sail]

DOOMTheDarkAgesConfig.cfg (MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE DELETE)
edit: looks like it stores only keys
there is also local cfg in the same folder

[vital rapids]

you can create another with .local instead of .cfg and the game engine will load it on top, without affecting the .cfg

[south haven]

isnt the DOOMTheDarkAgesConfig.cfg for control settings and not graphics settings

[vital rapids]

does this game disable achievements if you use the console?
I was going to try and find the xess setting with it so bro can launch his game
it's a quakelike console after all

[vital rapids]

yes, as far as we can tell, but it does seem to load other settings

[fierce sail]

yes, looks like keys only 😦

[vital rapids]

like you can make the metrics display in there withcom_showConsumerPerfMetrics etc

and it works

[south haven]

do you guys know where the other settings could be stored?

[fierce sail]

searching

[south haven]

is it in nvngx.ini ?

[fierce sail]

DOOMTheDarkAgesConfig.local in here is stored r_mode
configVersion 17
r_windowPosY "38"
r_windowPosX "9"
r_mode "66"
r_hdrDisplay "1"

so r_mode maybe could change it

[vital rapids]

It definitely loads some other settings from .cfg - .local is just an extension for the settings in that file that doesn't get synced to the cloud

[lament grove]

I had fun with:
smallest parry window
Damage to player 250%
Damage to demons 75%
Projectile speed fastest
The others is up to you i didnt rlly touch them tbh

[vital rapids]

.local is preferable obvs

[fierce sail]

probably there is nothing in PROFILE file where saves are stored, also hard to say, cause it's encrypted

[south haven]

my r_mode is 121, ill try 66 like you have

[south haven]

i got through the encryption on most(maybe all?) files so i might find something

[fierce sail]

I can change my game settings to default and we will see what r_mode it will be
I use nvidia, so it probably not run properly, gimme a second

[zealous thorn]

Yess finally beat TDA in Ultra Nightmare with 100% completion on all chapters

[vital rapids]

Looks like you can set r_mode to -1, which I guess would be like first launch

[fierce sail]

oh that sounds good

[vital rapids]

grats man!

[south haven]

66 didnt work, ill try -1

[fierce sail]

ok

[zealous thorn]

Also… what happened to the spoilers channel?

[fierce sail]

deleted

[zealous thorn]

But for why

[low locust]

Anyone have any ideas of Dark Ages DLC because it’s kinda dry & we need horde mode.

[south haven]

-1 didnt work either..

[fierce sail]

arghh

[zealous thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-hurt-gif-25740532

[fierce sail]

console says default is -2

can't post screensthot ;/

so try r_mode -2

[south haven]

ok ill try

nvngx.ini has some lines about XeSS and what default upscaler to use

[fierce sail]

where is it?

[vital rapids]

Ok, maybe try this:
for amd and nvidia you can forcibly disable upscaling
by renaming/moving the dlls to .bak inamd-ffx and streamline directories in your game and/or local folders
I notice there is a xess folder right next to them with a single dll in it
Could be worth a try
Only caveat, I know there is one in the app installation, but there might also be one in your local files
**But still, renaming xess/libxess.dll to libxess.bak may do the same for you **

[south haven]

its in the root folder with the .exe in doom-the dark ages/content

[split gate]

The fall of Argent D Nur and the Sentinels, leading to 2016, hunting down the council of Hell, Cosmic Realm in disarray due to what happened in the game’s events, there’s a lot they could cover

Hell vs the Cosmic Realm?

[south haven]

-2 didnt work, changing to libxess.bak gives a "BsSndRpt64: Unexpected Error!" which is different than the bugsplat one, but still not working

[fierce sail]

that's real crap

[vital rapids]

doh, yeh it was a possibility it wouldn't fall back like the others. That sucks, man 😦

[south haven]

im thinking of trying to verify gamefiles but im afraid it might delete my save and or my mods

[fierce sail]

what will happens if you delete whole "base" folder in here: \Saved Games\id Software\DOOMTheDarkAges\base (JUST MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)
shouldn't game make new "base" folder?

[fierce sail]

that's a good idea too

[vital rapids]

graphics settings seem, at least on the Steam version, to update a file called profile.bin.
Trouble is, deleting and recreating this file seems to make saves inaccessible. Losing all your progress ftl 😦

so it's probably better to try config/launch options/disabling the xess externally

[south haven]

deleting the base file didnt work and it didnt create a new one

[fierce sail]

damn it

[vital rapids]

we probz need someone with an encyclopaedic knowledge of cvars to swoop in and say yeah dudes add r_upscalingmethod "0" or something to your config files

[fierce sail]

so maybe last try with profile bin (but as said The Dork Lord) there is stored game progress too

[vital rapids]

it reportedly nukes people's ability to load their saves again

so 😬

[south haven]

i wonder if verifying game files would remove my save file

probably wouldnt even help, it would still launch with xess

[fierce sail]

yeah, I hope
funny cause game console shows me r_xessenabled 1, but I'm nvidia and amd

[south haven]

do you have any idea where a line like that could exist

like in the files

[fierce sail]

in tda no 😦

there are lots of cvars in console, but I'm not familiar with them

[vital rapids]

Ok, so probably time to try adding the following to that DOOMTheDarkAges config file at the bottom:
r_xessenabled "0"
@south haven

[vital rapids]

thanks. I'm paranoid about console/listcvars until I finish my UN run 🙂 if I were to finish and find it didn't register, I may have to donate my PC to charity and become a monk

[south haven]

didnt work :/

could it be possible that xess is just corrupted for me in some way? as enabling it caused the game to get into this loop of crashing, could there be a way to enable some other renderer?

[vital rapids]

Hrm. Did you verify game cache?

[fierce sail]

gpt says (but I don't trust it) - you can only put "r_upscaling 0" to config file

[south haven]

nope

[vital rapids]

Do that now tbh

[sweet mist]

Im off topic here, what is r_upscaling 0? Is that a Cvar command to ignore all upscaling and AA technicques, like TAA and DLAA?

[vital rapids]

We were hoping to find cvars that can disable xess from config to fix game not launching, as fsr/dlss methods don't seem to work.
But it seems like the game needs verify cache

To rule that out first

[sweet mist]

Ah thats broken. Sorry to hear that, dudes.

[fierce sail]

guys on reddit say that

so the game (they say that) run without any upscaling included TAA

bug FG doesn't work with that

[sweet mist]

I dont think you can even turn off TAA here. Youve got to pick TAA and if you dont want upscaling with DLSS, you have to pick DLAA

[fierce sail]

exactly - there is no possible to turn off TAA, but guys from reddit say they can do this

probably I can't put link in here

[sweet mist]

Theres no real options in the config file, yeah, theyre just talking to talk, believe them when they post a working video

[fierce sail]

I just say, I didn't try it

[vital rapids]

I don't think the config load is restricted to keybinds, as I've messed with metrics using it

[fierce sail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1klx123/how_do_i_not_use_any_kind_of_upscaling_dark_ages/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[south haven]

can you try to copy/paste your config file to me and ill try that as a last resort, then ill verify the files

[vital rapids]

So maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️

[vital rapids]

Man, I would definitely verify the files as your first step if it's not launching, even before changing drivers

[uneven mortar]

New Noah Caldwell Gervais DOOM VIDEO!!!! YEYYY

[sweet mist]

AA is linked to Frame Gen? Weird

[south haven]

i wanted to avoid that, as it warned me that save data and mods might be lost

[low locust]

Thank you mister Beast

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-goodman-chuck-gif-15052562

[vital rapids]

Waaaaaat is this true for gamepass? That's catastrophic man, surely not
Are they just covering their asses? Anyone with GP happily verifying game files at will without losing saves?

[south haven]

yeah this is crazy to me, if verifying leads to losing saves, thats unacceptable

[vital rapids]

I have it on Steam, so someone with gamepass could probably chime in and tell you it doesn't hurt your saves

[fierce sail]

make a backup of whole folder with PROFILE files, I don't know where gamepass keeps it :/

[empty sable]

If you enable TAA and have resolution scale mode off then it's just normal TAA. Unfortunately you can't disable TAA unless there is a workaround.

[south haven]

ill try it now, if it fails ill come back to this game in like 3 years or something, i have never had to fiddle around with a game as much as TDA and honestly, every time i try to play anything xbox related its always a complete and utter technical disaster

[split gate]

“The law is sacred! If you abuse that power, people will get hurt! This isn’t a game!” 😡

[fierce sail]

oh there was much "fun" in fallouts 4 and 76 around this specialy if you like to play on ultrawide and frames caps off 😄

[south haven]

verifying did nothing, still crashing.. wonderful

[smoky reef]

Drivers ain't friendly with the game

[fierce sail]

oh man, yeah we are trying to find problem in files, but maybe it's just intel problem with their drivers

[empty sable]

You can't even use NVIDIA game filters on it. It will mess up and go off after the first cutscene.

[smoky reef]

I gotta say that only sometimes you can uninstall all the drivers and install them through the site and then it might get fix, but the success rate is low tbh

[vital rapids]

Drivers from at least team green and red seem to be having a lot of problems in general lately. Dunno about team blue

[smoky reef]

I've done that already I've found 2 things

1. Idtech 8 and Nvidia ray tracing is constantly confronting data in the big scenarios

Which ends up with continuous crashes, and other thing is I don't know why the display drivers, they ain't working with doom properly (saw something similar in eternal when it released)

[empty sable]

The worst part is if you talk about it NVIDIA will reprimand you instead of acknowledging them screwing up.

[fierce sail]

I still have old nvidia drivers from March

[smoky reef]

Updating ain't worth rn tbh

[random quail]

Ermm wtf anyone come across a floating Red dude at the first Dragon level?

[vital rapids]

It's weird that at least nvidia didn't have their driver game on point for this heavy nvidia promotion

[smoky reef]

Nope but if you did report it as a bug

[fierce sail]

I was afraid new rtx 5060 drivers will mess something in my 4070ti

everything works fine for me, so I don't update

[smoky reef]

I've the 7800xt and same with the 9070

[vital rapids]

It's a Marauder. He ain't done with you yet and has followed you from Eternal

[smoky reef]

Drivers right now are unstable in general

[random quail]

Just a guy all red floating in the air. Seems like a stock model or something

[smoky reef]

Makes no sense, because you're literally wintrading yourself

[random quail]

Thought I find an Easter egg lol

[empty sable]

Never came across this, but sounds hilarious lol

[smoky reef]

No one will update and people will wait to buy new graphic cards

[fierce sail]

I switched to amd cpu after years on intel, well, I see amd is very sensitive for ram clock and likes do not boot when something is changed, but still cool cpu!

[smoky reef]

I've the amd combo and it's smooth in general

I gotta say anyways that when you get it to work properly is an amazing game to play

[south haven]

at this point i genuinely have no idea what could fix the game for me other than completely reinstalling the game

[vital rapids]

It's awesome to see AMD 9070 and 9070xt pulling even with rtx 50 cards because poor drivers and rt utilisation after buying an rtx 50 card based on it being THE TARGET HARDWARE for TDA feels great man

[smoky reef]

9070 is a big W for amd in general

[random quail]

Posted in screenshots lol

[smoky reef]

Im happy with my 7800xt ngl

[vital rapids]

Although based on wukong etc, UN path tracing may murder those cards. I guess we'll see

[smoky reef]

I'm playing the game in Max settings 1440p without much trouble (just fsr on balancedl

[smoky reef]

It'll have to, if not Nvidia is literally cooked

[empty sable]

There may be one workaround. If you go to NVIDIA control panel and disable "Display Specific Settings" it should be where where the Setup G-Sync is. I had to do this and it fixed some serious shutdown problems for me, a few driver updates ago.

[vital rapids]

It can, based on Blackwell rt capabilities. BUT ain't no Blackwell in a ps5 so..

[smoky reef]

Ray tracing it'll be decent on those cards anyways I'm sure that Nvidia will have the lead as always which make sense

[fierce sail]

btw. it's quite fun - we can't see any reflection of slayer in the game (sligthly in some water puddles) but in eternal we could find it literally everywhere

[fierce sail]

I'm sure Path Tracing will kill my 4070ti

[vital rapids]

Ultimately games consoles prevent them doing anything that will kill the game for 9070 I think. So the RT battle may happen elsewhere

[smoky reef]

That card is a hidden beast tbh

[fierce sail]

maybe, MAYBE, I could run it on full hd, but I doubt

[south haven]

do you know more specifics? i cant find that

[vital rapids]

I think you'll be fine, well above average GPU the game must target

[smoky reef]

We'll see that battle at some point that's for sure but again time will tell us what was the right choice for this new generation

[fierce sail]

In Indiana Jones I had... 10 fps

and in regular RT 110 fps in ultrawide

[smoky reef]

The power that card has is massive

[fierce sail]

so bad I got only 12 GB VRAM :/

[smoky reef]

That's the only issue

[empty sable]

If you open NVIDIA Control, it's under Display section. Should be a category named Setup G-Sync. I'm not sure if you have G-Sync, but for me it's underneath Adjust desktop size and resolution. Control Panel, not App. You uncheck Display Specific settings.

[smoky reef]

I got myself a 16gb one just to avoid that problems thinking of 1440p

[fierce sail]

when I bought it 4080 was much more expensive and 4070 was much weaker than 4070ti

[vital rapids]

It'll be fine for a while
A problem nv has is that to sell any cards to gamers they have to be incapable of running large AI models otherwise AI customers go scorched earth
Hence VRAM ceiling

[fierce sail]

I'm playing mostly on 3440x1440, but I got another monitor full hd

[south haven]

doesnt exist for me, unlucky

[vital rapids]

People don't realise this

[fierce sail]

ah, yes, I forgot about his, you are right!

[smoky reef]

You can handle 4k sometimes

Depending on the game tbh

[empty sable]

Strange. The reason it is, is because whomever at NVIDIA designed these specific settings for monitors and it screws it all up. They got their science wrong lol

[fierce sail]

generaly almost everything works fine (except stalker 2 and after new patches Alan Wake 2 in Path tracing is tragedy in 40 fps)

[vital rapids]

They literally cannot reach gaming customers with ample vram. AMD does not have this problem

[smoky reef]

Yeah that's why I got the amd card, apart for the compatibility with the cpu I've (7600x)

[fierce sail]

amd is going forward, their 9070xt is real good

[smoky reef]

Nvidia is always struggling with VRAM, I get why they tried what they tried with the 5060 ti but it's just showing that the 16gb is the only choice for it if you want decent performance

[vital rapids]

I treated myself to a 5070. I was struggling by on an ancient card for so many years, when I realised nv cards were hitting MSRP it was time
Only a bit better than a 40 series for raster, but this is academic when you are coming from an old card since it's a massive upgrade for not much money

[smoky reef]

I was thinking of changing my gpu to that one ngl

[smoky reef]

I was coming from a 1660 super

[graceful lion]

they say the 5060 ti is just not much of an upgrade compared to a 4060 ti

[south haven]

ok, reinstalling the game. If a full reinstall doesnt fix it, then im just done with the game.

[smoky reef]

And went all the way up to a 7800xt which is a huge upgrade

[fierce sail]

I wish you it will help you, bro!

[empty sable]

I'm on a 4090 and apparently if I was interested in the game, Hell Is Us I'd only be able to run it at 30fps with upscale. Dark times

[vital rapids]

Right? People are like you could get so much better. They don't understand you've been living the 30fps life

[solemn matrix]

The Juvee Limited time Onyx Skin for Doom the Dark Ages. The page is back to get your code!!!

[smoky reef]

As a person with limited money getting this is like buying my dream

[smoky reef]

It's not that's for sure but no one is gonna go for the 8gb VRAM one on the new 5060

[graceful lion]

what the fuck is optimization rahhh

[south haven]

I wish so too, I loved the first 2 new dooms but man, TDA has been nothing but a struggle for me. Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong, and I might be dramatic but HOLY SHIT I am so done with playing anything xbox related, every single xbox game seems to have its own horrible issues and I just dont trust them at all anymore.

[vital rapids]

I would consider the 5060ti a genuinely confusing card to exist. But on the positive side they are affordable. Well worth waiting for the 9060xt if you are looking at the 5060ti, though
Trust me bro

[graceful lion]

30 fps with upscaling is WILD, straight up fucking insane

[fierce sail]

maybe is good for full hd? After I changed my monitor for bigger it was... bad idea, I had to change gpu ;/

[empty sable]

It's all this baking RT into games instead of having it be optional. That's what is going to alienate so many players. Their excuse is that a small percentage of players are playing in 4K.

[fierce sail]

UE5 trashes our pc a lot

[smoky reef]

It'll work with 1080

[graceful lion]

RT is not the problem, also you dont really "bake" RT into a game

[smoky reef]

But the main issue I've seen is the fps performance difference between both of them

[graceful lion]

RT is completely done by the gpu, which is why it doesnt need baking

but also, every gpu from like 6 years ago has RT and it has only been getting better

[real crater]

oh yeah speaking of that i think i may have encountered a spot where the ray tracing was a little funky

[graceful lion]

majority of them atleast, thats for sure

[vital rapids]

Using the RT hardware people would otherwise have sitting idle is a good idea tbh
Raster is probably not going anywhere for a while now
So this is where there is room for engines to move

[obtuse oyster]

I like how reviews on yoputube are split between "fuck modern gaming can't run the game" and people that actually analyze the game cuz they were lucky to be able to run it xd

[smoky reef]

• games only use it in specific places like glass or water

[fierce sail]

exactly
For example - make a map in eternal - baking map is not fun, but on ue5 I can make exactly the same scene with only 1 (ONE!) light, and I get real good AO for whole map (with crap ghosting XD)

[graceful lion]

uhh no?

you mean reflective surfaces in general

but anyways, a doom tda developers iirc said that it would take them like a year or 2 more if they were to add the game non RT

[real crater]

what went on there in #videos

[fierce sail]

looks like TDA use global lighting from RT, not only for reflecionts

[smoky reef]

Yeah mb

[fierce sail]

baking time is huge, and game files with lightmaps would be 100+ gigs

[empty sable]

Then they need to spend more time optimizing it. I thought Dark Ages did a pretty decent job, of course I'm on 4090 so I'm bias lol

[graceful lion]

full path tracing is coming to tda this month

[vital rapids]

One of many things TDA does perfectly without breaking a sweat. I'm all for developers utilising the RT hardware people have
It would be an insult to people who paid for it, if games just never ever used it

[smoky reef]

I meant this, I said it wrong apologies

Ray-traced reflections - are used in limited areas (for example, on glass surfaces or water), the rest is supplemented by screen reflections.

[fierce sail]

I know and I'm afraid of it I couldn't run it 😄

[fierce sail]

one thing I don't like it - it doesn't run on my second pc with 1080ti 😦

[south haven]

baked in lighting runs at like 2x the framerate, having mandatory ray tracing in 2025 should be a crime, the tech isnt ready

[smoky reef]

It's gonna be tough that's for sure but we have to think that it'll work

[graceful lion]

theres raytracing and path tracing, and i think PT will be optional since even a 2060 super will shit itself

but RT wont be optional still

[graceful lion]

it clearly is, baked in lighting also increases load times, and is alot of time to add

[fierce sail]

I'd like to see PT on 2060 XD how many fps? 3? XD

[graceful lion]

u can see it on IJ although its not as well optimized as tda, or uses stronger effects

[smoky reef]

2 avg it would crash eventually

[vital rapids]

We've all been paying money for this hardware for the last 4 generations
It's about time we saw some value from it tbh

[empty sable]

All the upscaling in the world probably won't make that run lol

[graceful lion]

this, why have RT cores if you dont even have to use them

[fierce sail]

yeah, I hope IJ was like ground probing with new engine for DOOM

[graceful lion]

i feel like its not much of a stretch that developers are asking for 6 year old gpus

[smoky reef]

It was what people wanted for buying all the rtx cards

[vital rapids]

And RDNA customers as well

[fierce sail]

1080ti is raw power, none nvidia upscalers work for it (but fsr works)

[smoky reef]

It took a while tho

[obtuse oyster]

I want a good video game idgaf what ass hair light reflection generation tech they're gonna use just please I wanna have as good game 🙏

[graceful lion]

also iirc this game had the best hardware to gpu year ratio out of 2016 and eternal

[empty sable]

Probably why it runs a little better. Lighting is deadly.

[fierce sail]

so how dynamic light is done? It's just... dynamic light like in DOOM 3?

[graceful lion]

this

[vital rapids]

True, but AMD customers deserve to see this feature they paid for used, just as much as RTX customers

[smoky reef]

If you've spent 400-600 euros on your GPU you deserve at least that

[graceful lion]

i mean yeah the game looks dark as FUCK without raytracing

[vital rapids]

I was going to say lol

[graceful lion]

i bought my rtx 2060 for like 110 euros, runs tda like a charm

[smoky reef]

Geometry bucketing is helping a lot on those GPUs tho

[fierce sail]

that's real great to hear! What resolution?

[smoky reef]

That's wild and great to hear

[graceful lion]

ultra performance 1080p upscaling with dlss, everything on low, and 1.5gb texture pool size, barely under the vram limit

90+ fps alot of the time, in cutscenes it goes up to 100

[fierce sail]

that's real good

[ancient herald]

Got it, thanks!

[graceful lion]

but also no old gpus are running tda even with rt disabled lmao

you still need vram, ram speed, and just raw gpu power

[fierce sail]

my poor 1080ti

[graceful lion]

and also new technologies that are better

[vital rapids]

Sounds like a super?
I swear 2060s is nearly as much of a meme card as 1080ti at this point. They refuse to give up 😂

[graceful lion]

2060 6gb non super

[fierce sail]

1080ti 11 GIGS! That's madness 🙂

[obtuse oyster]

how's your performence?

[smoky reef]

It's crazy that you can do that nowadays with a 2060

[vital rapids]

And it's tanking this game in 2025 with rt? Absolute legend of a card

[obtuse oyster]

Bro I'm running the game on a ryzen 5 3600x this shit's fiiine

[fierce sail]

dooms are gpu games, not much cpu

[graceful lion]

so are the developers at id software, absolute legends for allowing this to work

[obtuse oyster]

idk requirements said at least 8 cores 3.2ghz or whatever so I was worried

[empty sable]

One of many, many reasons they are legends.

[graceful lion]

i saw an article before release that the gpu was running at like 28 fps with 1080p low, but even in current release it was like 40 or more

[smoky reef]

Like if you remove the issues with the drivers this game tech is amazing

[vital rapids]

Yeah, this game will tolerate ridiculous bottlenecking. Just seems to do everything on the GPU

[smoky reef]

Idtech 8 has impressed me(it's not a super change but it improves mostly everything a bit at least)

[graceful lion]

well, the requirements are just a recommendation, not a rule

thats just "as far as we tested these are the results"

[vital rapids]

The performance in idtech8 with all of the ai/physics/particles/shadows etc going full total war on big maps is mindboggling

[graceful lion]

id argue that the performance of it compared to eternal's or 2016's is more impressive tbh

[empty sable]

They need to give us a full silver outfit to soak in that RT goodness. Eternal has it.

[smoky reef]

I wasn't expecting it I've to be honest but this is great for the gamers in general

It proves that with good work you can cover a lot more gamers

[vital rapids]

100%. Seems like it's able to rival old id games for encounter sizes but with all the modern bells and whistles
and still run on a 2060 super
Insert obligatory imagine Quake on this engine comment

[graceful lion]

runs on a 2060 non super very well too (6gb)

[vital rapids]

love it. This is what you want
Did you see the damage on enemies and buildings as well? I genuinely though how the hell is this running, and I'm not on a 2060

[empty sable]

You mean to tell me this isn't Quake? lol

[vital rapids]

We're getting closer dude
I wonder if they might have to use subterfuge to massage new Quake into existence because the bigwigs aren't so keen
and this is how it happens
I'm here for it if so

[smoky reef]

Imagine, it would be crazy, we can dream it...

[graceful lion]

the physics are insane also speaking on that note

and if valve makes better than that, then that would be crazy

[empty sable]

With Eternal and this one the environments have definitely clashed hard. I think it's a good thing to see, some people are bitter about it for some reason.

[smoky reef]

Also the engine divides the way that buildings/objects fall depending on the gun and the material

Each one has it owns physics

[vital rapids]

it would. It's a far cry from running a UE5 game and being thankful for reduced stutter
Not actually so much wrong with UE5 to be honest, it's the RAD it enables - you get these massive complex sets of shaders etc that have no hope in
hell of working in eg open world environments. Not the fault of the engine but the accessible dev workflows

[smoky reef]

Bethesda prime ngl

[vital rapids]

By this do you mean the aesthetics?

[neon perch]

Everytime I see a soldier on the arena, no matter which one it is, I feel the urge to reach my hand through the monitor and squeeze the fuck out of it until it's a red blotch on the palm.

[empty sable]

Yes.

[neon perch]

The visceral hate I feel for those chuds is unfathomable.

[empty sable]

When playing this game you really can't not think about Quake.

[neon perch]

I don't.

Although when playing Quake I really can't not think about Doom.

[vital rapids]

Yeah. I didn't like the aesthetics of Eternal but much respect for id for the achievement and how much awesome fun it gave people
This moody 300 goth metal lovecraftian sci fi thing they've got going on, and the way it mixes in classic-like visual elements, it all just floats my boat tbh

[empty sable]

The aesthetics of Eternal for the earlier levels or later? Because the later levels look a lot like Dark Ages. These things were already implemented on a certain scale. DA just went all-out.

[vital rapids]

the quakeness of it is hard not to notice

[pulsar granite]

Jokes on y'all I can run this game on a rx 590

[graceful lion]

and what people also dont realize is, the specs for tda covers pretty much every gpu of the RTX lineup

[graceful lion]

at 15 fps?

[pulsar granite]

40 fps 1080p low fsr 3 ultra perf mode

[graceful lion]

with a mod that disables RT i assume?

[pulsar granite]

No

[open abyss]

coool, thanks for lmk!

[pulsar granite]

Using software rt on linux

[graceful lion]

damn thats impressive as fuck

[vital rapids]

software rt?

[open abyss]

Got my ass whooped in some of the encounters in chapter 4 😭

[pulsar granite]

Linux drivers have the ability to emulate hardware rt

[graceful lion]

thats hella impressive, that it can even run like that

[pulsar granite]

Well it drops down to 15 - 20 fps during intense combat that it feels like a powerpoint 😭

[hazy tulip]

The Ahzrak battle fucking sucks dude

[vital rapids]

Just another reason to keep a Linux system going as a gamer 👍

[fierce sail]

so maybe I can run tda on 1080ti under linux 🤔

[pulsar granite]

No sadly, rt emulation is only on the amd drivers

[fierce sail]

ah 😦

[pulsar granite]

(the open source ones)

[vital rapids]

you might be able to do it via gamepass by directly running the executable

1000 series on windows has similar driver-based capabilty to amd on linux

[pulsar granite]

I saw a video (prob fake) of a guy running the game on a gtx 1650 by simply running directly the game exe from the game files

[empty sable]

Windows sucks, yet seems the most convenient despite the many drawbacks. At times it feels like your comp is possessed.

[vital rapids]

some of the 1000 series, anyway.

[pulsar granite]

Technically the 10 and 16 series support first gen rt

[vital rapids]

yep, they can take the RT calls thanks to nvidia drivers
much like the software RT on linux though, what it actually does with those calls is not guaranteed to blow your hair back 😂

[fierce sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwnctS_TQNI that's wild

[pulsar granite]

I would send a screenshot of the game althought I don't have image perms

[empty sable]

How do you even get them?

[fierce sail]

true - I can run The Control with rt in around 10 fps 😄

[pulsar granite]

I don't even think you can

[vital rapids]

use #screenshots

[pulsar granite]

Are links allowed? I could send an imgur

[fierce sail]

looks like yes

[pulsar granite]

Sent it

[empty sable]

10 fps is truly next-gen 🙂

[pulsar granite]

Quake 2 rtx runs on a 1080 ti from what I've heard

I don't remember how the performance was tho

[fierce sail]

well, it runs, but it's not playable

[buoyant aurora]

new consoles?

[vital rapids]

ngl I might still try and make it work if I had to

[fierce sail]

in 720p and lowest possible it was around 30 fps if I good remember

[lament grove]

No problem, hope you enjoy it as much as i did 💪

[pulsar granite]

Quake 2 rtx ran on my pc (still with rt emulation) at 10 fps native, 30 fps with dynamic scaling

I tried to run half life 2 rtx but it froze my pc so I gave up on that

[vital rapids]

half life 2 rtx runs well here. But I forgot to try q2rtx since upgrading

[buoyant aurora]

if i had to pick i would rather fight 10 empowered cyber demons than 1 cosmic baron

[pulsar granite]

True

Cosmic baron at 150% speed fucks up ultra nightmare runs

[buoyant aurora]

fr

[pulsar granite]

Cosmic baron is harder than enhanced asscrack

[empty sable]

For years I ran my games at around 30-40 fps, but once you enter buttery smooth it's hard to go back. Some games are fine, yet with DA if you were running like 20 fps you'd feel it because of so many parry mechanics.

[buoyant aurora]

honesty fr it was easier fighting him than a cosmic baron ngl, whenever a baron spawns i just crossbow it im not dealing wit that

[vital rapids]

It would be hell on earth tbh
I bet some absolute chad is trying a UN run with sub-20 fps somewhere, though

[pulsar granite]

Are we not gonna say that the cosmic baron doesn't even remotely resemble the baron of hell?

[buoyant aurora]

fr it looks pretty cool tho i thought it was like a evolved versions of a hell knight

[pulsar granite]

When I'm done with my nightmar 150% speed run I might try to beat un at this dogshit fps lol

[lavish kindle]

y'all are crazy. Cosmic Barons are super fun to fight. Their melee parry sequence might be the best in the game

[buoyant aurora]

when you're in 150% speed and you're focused on fighting other stuff its a pain

[pulsar granite]

True

[buoyant aurora]

they're not bad when its just a 1v1

[pulsar granite]

And they run too fast even at 100% speed

[vital rapids]

If you can do it fps locked at 20 fps in 150%, you should legitimately win a new computer nvm an achievement

possibly a knighthood

[hazy tulip]

what happened to the spoiler chat

[pulsar granite]

Less than 20 lmao

(during intense combat of course)

[buoyant aurora]

thats impressive ngl

[vital rapids]

we all stopped bothering when we found out Thira kills the Slayer with a baseball bat while screaming "shut up, Dad!"

[hazy tulip]

wdym this is cinema

what are we some kind of DOOM?

[vital rapids]

Doom ain't doom, man

[pulsar granite]

This is the moment thira became trans and turned into doom slayer

[hazy tulip]

Woke mind virus 🤦‍♂️

[vital rapids]

we call this, pulling a thira

[hazy tulip]

Does anyone know where you can find the marauder as a trooper

[pulsar granite]

2016 slayer isn't the og doomguy, it's secretely thira

[placid rock]

theyre the green armored dudes

they just dont have the same armor

[hazy tulip]

theres a certain soldier which looks exactly like a marauder

[vital rapids]

ok, I just realised how unfathomably cool it would be to pull a Metroid Prime switcheroo here

[pulsar granite]

If only we could blast his ass

[placid rock]

theres a mod for eternal thats turns the slayer to thira with the wraith arm as the blade XP

[buoyant aurora]

||on chap 22 do u gotta fight azhraks ass again and his witch?||

[hazy tulip]

i thought it was a one off boss in eternal but no suddenly hes everywhere lol

[placid rock]

yep

[pulsar granite]

He cloned himself

[buoyant aurora]

||is it easier or harder than the first fight?||

[hazy tulip]

i dont know how to do spoilers but the fight before was fucking ass

[obtuse oyster]

remember when doom tda came out? such nostalgia

[pulsar granite]

Easier for sure

[placid rock]

eh theyre both pretty equal to me

[hazy tulip]

the fighte before is parry mayhem lol

[pulsar granite]

Why is howard hamlin playing doom tda

[buoyant aurora]

i liked it especially at a higher game speed and small parry window it was pretty difficult to get all the parrys ngl

[hazy tulip]

i literally just got onto here just now too lol

[hazy tulip]

the 5 parry combo which can look like a 2 parry combo reminds me of fucking Margit

from Elden ring

[vital rapids]

never heard of it

[buoyant aurora]

also to do a spoiler just type slash(/) spoiler and it should work

[pulsar granite]

If only I could set my game speed to 200%, would hide the lag

[hazy tulip]

Pretty underground made by a indie dev team

[placid rock]

whats funny is there was a dang snapmap that had a parry system that worked just like tda, and it was made BEFORE tda

[hazy tulip]

sue them!!

[vital rapids]

sounds cool man. Indie games sometimes have the best guns

[pulsar granite]

||King novik ends up marrying prince asscrack||

[hazy tulip]

Just realised Radagon and || Ahzrak Phase 1-3 fight very similiar lol ||

[graceful lion]

if anything more speed is more lag

[buoyant aurora]

from doom 2016 to tda who was prob the most annoying boss to fight including the ancient gods 1 and 2

[pulsar granite]

Dude I still have nightmares from samur boss

[hazy tulip]

i didnt do ancient gods 1 and 2 cos i didnt wanna pay for it

but i honestly think ahzrak is lol

[buoyant aurora]

welp i just got ptsd i hated that one

[hazy tulip]

i usually dont struggle with the doom fights theyre alot easier then dark souls

[placid rock]

hmm... not davoth.... i have to say the one i hated dealing with the most was not a boss but the marauder. i straight up hated dealing with him each time

[pulsar granite]

At least samur gave us finally the opportunity to rip and tear samuel, because before he was a robot and had no guts and thus was immune to rip and tear

[hazy tulip]

Cant wait for the next doom game to have rolling invincibility frames cos that seems to be the direction theyre going with parrying lol

[vital rapids]

I wish the souls games had first person, and guns

[buoyant aurora]

the first time i was introduced to him took me so long to figure him out lol

[graceful lion]

well, no, every doom game is different

[pulsar granite]

Can't wait for the next doom game to have forced path tracing, its own drm + denuvo and cost 120 usd

[hazy tulip]

honestly dont even know where theyd put the next doom timeline wise

[pulsar granite]

Probably between 2016 and eternal

[vital rapids]

Can't wait for them to expand TDA with mapping tools and more content

[hazy tulip]

Doom 2016 is after Doom the dark ages?

[pulsar granite]

Yes

But not a direct sequel for now... ig we'll have to see tda's expansion

[hazy tulip]

Also what is the campaign dlc

"A 3 part extension to the main games story including 4 levels in each part for a total of 12 new levels"

[buoyant aurora]

||was kreed makrye boss fight kinda easy or just me, took me first try to beat his first form and like 3-4 for his second only took like 10 mins maybe||

[hazy tulip]

I found this boss really easy and only died once because i got sloppy lol

[pulsar granite]

I thought it was hard but when I saw asscrack yeah I immediately remembered it as easy

[placid rock]

heres the thing they arent able to do the sarcaophagus scene because doomguy would need to to find the wretch and have the preator suit for a while before the sarcauphagus scene

[hazy tulip]

But enhanced Azhrak i died like 5 times on the parry windows can really fuck u up

[placid rock]

i hate spelling that word

[buoyant aurora]

i didnt even know kreed was strong like that i thought he was just a fat leader that did nothin

[pulsar granite]

Isn't the sarcophagus technically asscrack's tomb? Idk I skipped all the cutscenes

[buoyant aurora]

asscrack is azrhrak right

[pulsar granite]

I couldn't listen to asscrack, novik and thira yap

[pulsar granite]

Why did they even name him like that it's so hard to remember 😭

[buoyant aurora]

fr asscrack is easier and funnier too

[hazy tulip]

why did he || have to kill my robot giant murder dragon || 😦

[buoyant aurora]

i was sad ngl

[pulsar granite]

He dosn't know about dasy

[hazy tulip]

everyone knows about the rabbit lol

[pulsar granite]

ASscrack didn't

If he did he would've knew not to mess with the slayer's pets

[placid rock]

no???? he never was put in there? when was that ever said?

[pulsar granite]

As I said I skipped every cutscene 💀

[placid rock]

oh you skipped the cutscenes like a ass ok

[hazy tulip]

why would you skip cutscenes lol

[pulsar granite]

Boring

[hazy tulip]

they hype you up almost everytime

[placid rock]

facepalm

[pulsar granite]

I just wanted to get to that demon slaying action

[hazy tulip]

how does a full parry window work lol

[pulsar granite]

You press a button and it happens idk

[hazy tulip]

does that just mean you can hold ur shield out to parry

[graceful lion]

50% of tda is the cutscenes tbh, 50% of the fun

[graceful lion]

yeah but only up to a point, u have to pull it out right before it hits you

[buoyant aurora]

i think it was in eternal but it was so satisfying when u killed those maykre things with the scope to the head it dropped so much stuff

[pulsar granite]

I remember wolfenstein 2 where 90% of the game was cutscenes

[hazy tulip]

yeah it was

you had to rely on them during the makyr boss fight

[pulsar granite]

Maybe with idtech 8's release we'll finally get a wolfenstein 3

[hazy tulip]

Pandemonium and Ultra-nightmare are just stupid

I feel bad for anyone who goes through that torture 😭

[pulsar granite]

Why did they even rename extra life mode to pandemonium? Are they stupid?

[hazy tulip]

Its basically ultra nightmare but life sigils can be used

So instead of 1 life per chapter its like 2-3 lives

[pulsar granite]

Why did they even rename extra life to life sigil? Are they stupid?

[hazy tulip]

:I

[pulsar granite]

Why the fuck is doom tda medieval style if it's a sequel to doom 64 where it was way more modern?

[placid rock]

facepalm

[pulsar granite]

Ragebait is funny

[placid rock]

im not mad just dissapointed a lot of people actually think that stuff

[obtuse oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-you-have-alerted-the-horse-you-have-alerted-the-howard-hamlin-gif-26058425

[frail bloom]

Kiryu the goat, best mechagodzilla

[pulsar granite]

True

[vital rapids]

did I hear they're going to make swapping weapons quicker/animation cancelling last longer on parry based on feedback?
This would be a massive boost in cheese/easiness for up close fights. I don't think that's going to please the people who want quicker swapping in the end, lol

[pulsar granite]

I just saw someone say doom 3 has ass graphics and xonotic looks better. Like wtf

Not even badger and skinny Pete would say that icl 💀 💀

[frail bloom]

From where?

Are yu talking anout quick swapping or just simply raising the switch speed

[vital rapids]

raising switching speed. People were moaning about it

on stream

[frail bloom]

Well that's not quickswapping

[placid rock]

because people want it to be eternal when its not supposed to be eternal

[vital rapids]

correct

[pulsar granite]

When eternal released people complained that it was too different from 2016,and now they complain that tda is different from eternal.

[frail bloom]

Uhhhhh @slim shuttle sorry for being yur #1 pinger but can yu explain the benefits of raising the switch speed(not quickswapping) in tda?

[vital rapids]

For me a big part of the fun is in the timing of up close encounters. Like getting your digs in, timing it
Hopefully this does not change too much

[pulsar granite]

Oh no it's the full auto dude

[frail bloom]

I'm just confused on what people exactly want??

Like what is the issue for example, like in certain situations

[placid rock]

i really dont see the benefit to be honest

[vital rapids]

faster weapon swap animations with longer cancellation windows

[frail bloom]

Why tho

What is the normal speed causing in terms of issues

[vital rapids]

skill issues

[fleet spruce]

In case you're somehow still not aware of something so painfully obvious - It's rather simple. In 2016 and Eternal there are multiple codex entries regarding Argent D'Nur and fact that Doom guy arrived there sometime after events of 64. Besides you can see tons of high tech stuff there in medieval looking environments.

[vital rapids]

hides

[frail bloom]

Huh I've never had that that issue

[pulsar granite]

I was ragebaiting but ok

[fleet spruce]

You succeeded then lmao

[frail bloom]

Some people do what yu do but do it for weeks

[feral bane]

https://youtu.be/cb1JKnsbI-E?si=NMwa2KNuKiqWKkHz

[pulsar granite]

No

[quiet geyser]

they nerfed the ssg?

[vital rapids]

I was thinking about having it on my gravestone. Just
Skill issue.
Apparently it's not ok

[pulsar granite]

Hell I wonder what Romero and carmack think of modern doom

[vital rapids]

Romero enjoyed it, he streamed playing it

[graceful lion]

i think its only against certain demons

[frail bloom]

Carmack would appreciate the technology they lkeep pushing each release no?

[graceful lion]

like, one

[frail bloom]

He's an engine freak

[quiet geyser]

I read it was the hell knight and certain armor

[pulsar granite]

He hasn't said anything about it yet so we can't know for sure

[dense sapphire]

do i lose my lives if i die in atlan parts?

[pulsar granite]

He's probably mad that the engines are no longer open source lol

[frail bloom]

[vital rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsemZY8bX5Q

[pulsar granite]

Make idtech open source again please (never gonna happen)

[vital rapids]

if it was going to happen, it wouldn't be for a while yet

[graceful lion]

yeah that

[pulsar granite]

Id got bought by Microsoft anywas

[graceful lion]

bethesda* got bought by microsoft

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/laggy-gif-23456063

[graceful lion]

id software keeping bethesda afloat be like :

[fleet spruce]

didn't ZeniMax entirely became the Microsoft property?

[graceful lion]

https://tenor.com/view/fariscoyg-farulez-gif-21298659

[pulsar granite]

I wanna send a gif but I am afraid it'll get me banned

[graceful lion]

then dont!

[pulsar granite]

It mentions starfield and some type of mod that I will not specify

[placid rock]

ngl doom the original was my first shooter game i ever played as a kid, tho i have to say when doom 3 came out i found that such a fun experience just like in dark ages with its more horror and lovecraftian style, doom 3 may be bad but i found it fun, plus thats where the hellknight we all know and love came from

[frail bloom]

Doom 3 ain't bad at all it is a doom game thru and thru

[pulsar granite]

Man I swear people who hate on doom 3 have never played it and started with 2016

[placid rock]

is it saying bad stuff?

[frail bloom]

Just a different flavor of doom

[graceful lion]

i think its mainly a nsfw mod

[pulsar granite]

Doom 3 is an absolute masterpiece

[graceful lion]

like probably an ass largening mod or something

[placid rock]

oh yeah then definitely no post

[frail bloom]

Mobile game shenanigans

[graceful lion]

like 70k or so mostly positive reviews

[placid rock]

i found it very enjoyable, me and sister played it all the time when it came out

[uneven mortar]

It's just dead space but mid

[frail bloom]

NOOOOOK

WHYYYYY

[pulsar granite]

I was trynna convince someone to play Doom 3,they looked at gameplay and said it's ass for every single aspect (graphics, story, gameplay and enemy Ai)

[placid rock]

of course because i was a child i could only play so much before the horror would get to me lol

[frail bloom]

AUAUAUAHHAH

[placid rock]

old game.... kinda how that works

[pulsar granite]

For 2004 it's impressive af

And then this same mf said xonotic was better in graphics

Like come on xonotic is just quake 2 made by some drug addicts

[uneven mortar]

Doom 3 has some decent horror moments and art direction but it's 70% sluggish hallways and everything it does was outclassed by miles in dead space

[placid rock]

yes it is thats the thing it gave really cool visuals, but i think it just was overshadowed by other gaems and how people saw the game after the original dooms

[pulsar granite]

It became the most successful doom game when it released

[uneven mortar]

You can wax about doom 3 being overhated but the idea of it being a masterpiece is hilarious to me

[frail bloom]

Well that is very true

I mean I enjoyed it bc I'm stupidly patient

[pulsar granite]

Hating doom 3 is crazy I thought it was actually shit until I played it

[uneven mortar]

That's fair enough

[pulsar granite]

I started with doom 64 btw

[placid rock]

everyone is allowed to their own opinions

[uneven mortar]

Not you

[pulsar granite]

I wanna say smth offensive but I won't

[placid rock]

wow guess that was said

[pulsar granite]

Your opinion wouldn't matter in the 1800s

[graceful lion]

crazy response 😭

[pulsar granite]

💀

[uneven mortar]

I would have been a revered priestess in 400bc

[wheat sigil]

i mean yeah, we all respect your right to have an opinion, but we don't all respect your opinion

[placid rock]

tempted to block now since all i did was just say everyone can have a opinion and now im suddenly told im not allowed to have one💀

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-better-call-saul-rant-explain-chicanery-gif-25351449

[frail bloom]

Notice smt different?

CASEOH KREEEDDD

[pulsar granite]

Old meme

[frail bloom]

So me

[frail bloom]

My brain rewires itself each couple of months so no

[pulsar granite]

I still glaze over Monday left me broken

[frail bloom]

I will laugh at anything and everything

Welp Imma change it now

[pulsar granite]

I got banned off a server for sending a video of a deer getting hit by a car 💀

[placid rock]

no thats how being in the public works you have be respetiful of someone"s thoughts as it is their thoughts and shouldnt be made fun of or belittled for having that thought thats only a opinion, im sorry but that is wrong what you said

[frail bloom]

Grrr

[wheat sigil]

...what's skull emoji worthy? that's completely fair lmao

[uneven mortar]

What if theyre a racist

[pulsar granite]

Idk a guy told me it wasn't worthy of a ban

[placid rock]

entirely differnt as thats not a opinon its hate 💀

[pulsar granite]

That was the true skull emoji moment

[uneven mortar]

So is liking doom 3

[dense sapphire]

bro

[pulsar granite]

How is liking doom 3 hate

[dense sapphire]

i am fucked the old one is too hard bro i dont wanna die on pandemodiium diffuculty

[placid rock]

do you want to be mean for no reason? cause there is no reason for it at all

[pulsar granite]

Old one is ez

[pulsar granite]

They feel lonely if they don't insult someone

[dense sapphire]

i got 2 more lives left bro i am not ready

[uneven mortar]

How are you guys falling for it so hard

[pulsar granite]

Icl ragebait always ends up as an excuse for saying something wrong

[uneven mortar]

It's barely even ragebait I'm just being glib

[placid rock]

yeah its not ragebaiting if your just being mean for no reason

[pulsar granite]

You could say the wrongest thing ever accidentally and say it was ragebait

[orchid rover]

No why does the melee add extra inputs and not immediately cancel out after getting one swing. Buttons that are NOT the melee button keep activating melee attacks after you go into "melee mode"

[frail bloom]

Are yu mashing melee?

How do yu even know that

[orchid rover]

Nope, definitely not

[orchid rover]

Because after a melee swing happens and I press a button that is NOT melee like block or shoot, Doomguy just tries to go for another swing

[placid rock]

hmm.. i must test this

[frail bloom]

So do yu wanna do somethin like flail then ssg really quickly

[orchid rover]

I want to melee then immediately block/parry

[pulsar granite]

Lemme say smth, the fist is actually op

[orchid rover]

It just killed me rigtht now and has killed me other times

[wheat sigil]

i respect your right to hold an opinion, but once you willingly share it, it's automatically subject to scrutiny. in public discourse ideas must stand on their own merit, if someone presents flawed - or or harmful - thoughts it's a good idea to challenge them. furthermore, you seem to assume all critique is mockery, which is incorrect. i also agree that no one should be belittled for any specific thought, and i never said otherwise.

[uneven mortar]

I'm not going to go in on you because you're probably like 12, but people are not obligated to respect each others opinions just because. We should be (and are) allowed to disagree on things and critique each others' viewpoints, otherwise art discussion is worthless.

[orchid rover]

This and the slow weapon switch makes the game feel incredibly clunky

[pulsar granite]

You're not disagreeing you're just being mean 💀

[uneven mortar]

And what was your 1800s comment

[pulsar granite]

There is a difference

[pulsar granite]

A shitpost

[uneven mortar]

Right

[frail bloom]

Hmmm I usually just avoid doing any melee in a situation where I could get crowded, and I only do either one hit and I'm out or all 3 if I know I'm safe, idk abt the slow weapon switch it's like classic doom in a sense but I'm not opposed to a switch increase as long as it's not weapon switching

[hollow sandal]

How come sometimes the shield rune doesn't active on parry?

[orchid rover]

Having a fast weapon swap does not mean the game DEMANDS that you fast swap to win.

[pulsar granite]

[placid rock]

pft you dont even know a adult when you talk to one facepalm literally 24 so stop being a jackass for once and realize being mean for no reason isnt a good thing its not even fucking crituque if you are purposely calling the game bad or calling horrible JUST TO MAKE OTHERS MAD thats bullying straight up

[uneven mortar]

Well, my doom 3 takes were also just shitposts. No need to get so upset.

[orchid rover]

It only procs on projectile blocks, aka Hell Surge attacks

[pulsar granite]

Am I upset?

[orchid rover]

OH MY GOD SHUT UP

[placid rock]

straight up blocking you now for being so completely rude and just not caring

[hollow sandal]

Ohhh not melee parry? Ok thanks!

[frail bloom]

Well ye but quickswitching would cheese this gameso hard, imagine ssg impaler

[uneven mortar]

"facepalm literally 24" ok little buddy

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-skyler-anna-gunn-breaking-bad-stfu-gif-14457843

[graceful lion]

shit would be op if it was all parries

[frail bloom]

I know you're talking abt smt else anyway

[hollow sandal]

Facts

[placid rock]

good lord i hate kids like that

[orchid rover]

It's a single player game anyway, feeling good to play is more important

[vital rapids]

Doom 3 is great, though. Sorry not sorry

[uneven mortar]

You are not fooling anyone child

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-3-marine-gif-8672486222723136006

[orchid rover]

"No ur stupid"
"No you're stupid!"
Ass conversation

[pulsar granite]

Look at this quality game

[graceful lion]

your account was made literally today tho

[placid rock]

my second account

[pulsar granite]

It doesn't matter

It doesnt concern you

[wheat sigil]

that's not how that works btw
when going in for a melee, if you press melee more than once (quite normal) it will melee more than once, but this is not how it usually works which makes it feel awkward and/or buggy

[orchid rover]

I am 100% not pressing the melee button again

[wheat sigil]

get an input overlay and you'll see, it feels like that for pretty much everyone

[orchid rover]

The game just feels clunky to play when trying to play faster

[uneven mortar]

I'm pretty sure kids are allowed on the server, you don't need to pretend

[frail bloom]

It happens to me on console too but I can't be spamming

[orchid rover]

If you're constantly strafing around and going in and out rythmically it's fine

[vital rapids]

Sorry, why's the vibe off all of a sudden?

[orchid rover]

Going back and forth about some stupid conversation that isn't about doom but some discord jackoff session

[wheat sigil]

bold to imagine it was ever on

[placid rock]

im litterally fucking 24 i shouldn't have to fight to prove my age
now im getting mods since the person i blocked is purposely saying this to be a bully

[pulsar granite]

Oh my god what is this argument even about

[uneven mortar]

No 24yo would comment this

[hollow sandal]

I died in a room to a revenant and an Aggadon hunter. Rough combo

[pulsar granite]

You forgot mental people exist

[wheat sigil]

all you'll be doing by that is wasting time

[pulsar granite]

Just as a correction 🤓

[frail bloom]

They better have revenants and chaingunners in mass together for dlc, for that extra plutonia touch

[empty sable]

They stole your lunch money 🤣

[frail bloom]

Good luck bud

[orchid rover]

Describing a potential disability as "mental people" is fucking nuts kekw

[hollow sandal]

Oh! I didn't recognize you at first lol hi

[frail bloom]

Ye got a haircut y'know

[low locust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-han-solo-i-know-harrison-ford-the-rise-of-skywalker-gif-16646240

[orchid rover]

I want triple the base game demon count at minimum

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-mcgill-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-howard-hamlin-saul-goodman-howard-hamlin-gif-12849380446268963997

[hollow sandal]

Frl 😭

[frail bloom]

Oh hell yeah

[pulsar granite]

This fucking argument

[orchid rover]

The game just needs a little bit of input tweaking and it would feel way better

[hollow sandal]

Did you make that pfp by chance?

[frail bloom]

Ask hugo on his next stream

[hollow sandal]

Hugo pleewaaase 😭

[orchid rover]

I am so sick of hearing this asanine discussion that Doom Eternal was some hyper complex game that DEMANDED you know precision bolt quickswapping in order to just have fun

[frail bloom]

Ye I did

[hollow sandal]

Niiice dude

[orchid rover]

They don't have superchats and they're streams of thousands of people, it's a shout in a crowd

[placid rock]

ticket already made, i dont take bullying at all, straight up in the rules to not harass people

[orchid rover]

GO AWAY

[uneven mortar]

Its over bros...

[graceful lion]

the followup dodges like with the aggadon hunters feel so fuckin fast

[frail bloom]

They do have superchats, I heard josh mention it

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-skyler-anna-gunn-breaking-bad-stfu-gif-14457843

[low locust]

Is that before cosmic realm?

[graceful lion]

at 130% speed

[frail bloom]

Right??? I forgor

[pulsar granite]

Let the damn argument die 😭

[empty sable]

It's funny how Hugo was dying on livestream and then he's like, alright, time to make it harder! lol

[orchid rover]

The Komodo and Super Revenant combo is nasty

[hollow sandal]

Yep ||spire of nerathul||

[wheat sigil]

what harassment/bullying do you think has happened? lol

[frail bloom]

2 komodos would be a nightmare lol

[vital rapids]

yeah, let's get spooled up for an Eternal argument, too 😂

[uneven mortar]

Did Hugo say anything of interest last stream about updates?

[orchid rover]

The projectiles from the Komodo and the Agaddon Hunter are shockingly powerful

[pulsar granite]

I never approach the komodo I just shoot at him from away with the cycler or ravager

[graceful lion]

again, theres an update coming this month that will fix some issues, and add path tracing

[pulsar granite]

Oh no path tracing

[placid rock]

purposely saying someone to make someone mad, making fun of others opinions, harrassing me about my damn age, it is not okay

[frail bloom]

He's too fast for me and he disorients me, overall he scares me

[graceful lion]

NOT FORCED

[uneven mortar]

No need to be snippy, I was just wondering about balancing changes

[orchid rover]

The heat blast accelerator is an amazing melter

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/going-insane-insane-breaking-bad-breaking-bad-memes-gif-27501231

[graceful lion]

not forced path tracing.

[hollow sandal]

Accelerator actually so good and fun

[pulsar granite]

Sure

[river fern]

🤨

The fuck was happening here when I was gone

[placid rock]

anywho away from anger now, tda is fun

[vital rapids]

It will be funny if the 9070xt is one of the three cards that can run pathtracing acceptably, the other two being 4090 and 5090
It could never happen, right? RIGHT?

[pulsar granite]

It was able to do path tracing on cyberpunk at 4k

[frail bloom]

Hello may yu make it so I can post images now that the spoiler chat is gone, thank yu

[graceful lion]

otherwise theyd have to change the requirements which is a dick move and doesnt make sense, so ofc it wont be forced, no one gonna do that stuff, thye have no reason to force it either

[uneven mortar]

Transphobe and child teamed up

[pulsar granite]

With like 15 fps, but still good as fsr 4 exists

[river fern]

Not up to me, sorry

[frail bloom]

Oh ok, thank yu tho

[wheat sigil]

uhm, sure buddy

[hollow sandal]

Hi, can confirm demand for new emoji has increased

[graceful lion]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-fusion-dbz-goten-trunks-gif-8263700045051414172

[vital rapids]

games consoles would demonstrably be able to run it without, so there's that

[orchid rover]

This chat is getting plagued by people having a discord wah wah crying competition and not talking about Doom

[placid rock]

just go away you obviously arent even seeing correctly to know when bullying happens so you just dont at all care to be honest

[pulsar granite]

Who is transphobe?

[vital rapids]

chill dude. Take the win for being right about Doom 3, and be smug

[uneven mortar]

Guess

[placid rock]

apologies, just gets on my nerves

[pulsar granite]

You probably think of me but I respect lgbt people more than you do

[vital rapids]

is this true? Accusations should be palpably true otherwise very destructive to happy use of Discord

[vagrant path]

why are we arguing about le cyberbullying in the dark ages chat

[pulsar granite]

And my 1800s comment was about women, not trans people

[orchid rover]

I agree, ban all of them

[pulsar granite]

jessefacepalm

[vagrant path]

are you people seriously that fucking bored

[placid rock]

facpalm

[vital rapids]

Cool. Now I hope you understand, but most of us are probably going to NOT get involved in that particular kind/tone of argument

[pulsar granite]

Nahhh accusing someone of being transphobe is crazy

[orchid rover]

Crying over comments I can't even scroll up to find

[placid rock]

just shut up

[pulsar granite]

https://tenor.com/view/going-insane-insane-breaking-bad-breaking-bad-memes-gif-27501231

[frail bloom]

Your face must hurt from all those facepalmz

[hollow sandal]

Take it easy

[placid rock]

yes it does

[uneven mortar]

😭

[pulsar granite]

My brain hurts

[frail bloom]

Nooo kiryu

[wheat sigil]

what happened to maintaining a benevolent and cordial atmosphere😢

[vagrant path]

shit like this is why I stay away from big discord servers

[pulsar granite]

Accusing someone of being transphobe is crazy icl

[uneven mortar]

You posted that already

[vagrant path]

actual pleistocene hominid behaviour

[pulsar granite]

Just shut up bro pls

[orchid rover]

Why are there 23 pages of people talking about transphobia...

[placid rock]

going to just play on doom for a bit so i dont get any angier than right now. already got too angry and said something mean so im just gonna cool off

[vital rapids]

So. Doom...

[orchid rover]

It'd be nice to have a server to just talk about Doom

[vagrant path]

because apparently identity politics brainrot is more important than doom

[hollow sandal]

Yea I see youre playing doom 2016, that one is sick of course

[orchid rover]

truth nuke!

[low locust]

Tarn more like Megatron fanboy

[hollow sandal]

Ayo

Tarn?

[delicate grotto]

Hey guys what’d I miss

[uneven mortar]

Chuds in chat

[wheat sigil]

i mean... it certainly is

[delicate grotto]

I actually don’t want an answer it’s probably some bullshit.
Anyways, DOOM.

[hollow sandal]

Bro from the Kreed Maykr's first appearance I thought he was going to be a friend to the slayer

[vagrant path]

it really shouldn't trump a whole server dedicated to doom

[south haven]

@fierce sail @vital rapids reinstalled the game and it works.. and.. umm.. it opens in xess by default, but it works? I wonder what went wrong in 2 days where i didnt touch a single file of the game... well, gotta start grinding to decrypt the files again to mod away shadows that are too dark haha, but thanks for the help guys

[hollow sandal]

When he was known as fat maykr

[vital rapids]

Oh come back glory kills debate, all is forgiven 😂

[orchid rover]

Warned by server bot for posting gifs
And not for poisoning the chat with identity politics

[hollow sandal]

Lol

[wheat sigil]

and it doesn't

[low locust]

Nah i saw a worm move in his clothes didn't trust that Maykr for a second

[hollow sandal]

Good eye

[orchid rover]

Aren't all the Maykrs disgusting creatures

[vital rapids]

No worries man. Now Slay!

[vagrant path]

bro had that wiggly tiggly surprise

[uneven mortar]

Unironically whining about people discussing identity politics in the big 25

[orchid rover]

Maykr culture is a classic gilded world concept, however that term applies

[uneven mortar]

Wh-why politics in my video game??

[river fern]

Maybe if people were more excellent to each other then this problem wouldn't have existed.

[delicate grotto]

Same man. Disgusting mfer.

[hollow sandal]

You Rick rolled me in 2025

[vital rapids]

I don't want to. I'm not sorry for this. Please drop it

[orchid rover]

The "gilded age" in the USA was an appearance of success and riches but a period of actual poverty and suffering. The Maykrs being decorated in gold and high tech is out of their exploitation of weaker beings

[river fern]

Will rickroll you again in 2035.

[vagrant path]

if you want to cause a shitstorm go to twitter since you proudly have it listed in your linked accounts.

[hollow sandal]

Mako pleewaaase 😭

[uneven mortar]

I don't really care but it feels a little rude telling ME to drop it after kiryu dunked on me for being trans and i mostly left it alone

I've been pretty polite

[river fern]

Kiryu got told to shut up for an hour by a bot

Now talk about doom and don't start shit

[uneven mortar]

And I stopped talking about him but now everyone's vagueposting about woke idpol ruining doom

[low locust]

who tf said anything about woke?

[vagrant path]

Bro who gives a shit just ignore it if it makes you so uncomfortable

[uneven mortar]

K

[vagrant path]

block the guy

[river fern]

And just in case anyone doubts where this server stands

[hollow sandal]

I think they said it was ruining this chat room not the game

[low locust]

Online Mfers forgeting a block button exist

[vagrant path]

you literally don't have to engage the trolls

[river fern]

Yeah leave them to me instead

[orchid rover]

nor people with room temperature IQs

[vital rapids]

So, UN run with zero upgrades pulverizer?

[hollow sandal]

Can I upgrade le pulverizer?

[frail bloom]

Yes

[orchid rover]

No image perms BUT

[vagrant path]

I have a really evil idea for a run, going the whole game without upgrading any of the weapons on nightmare or pandemonium

[orchid rover]

I got a funny visual glitch where the HELL text overlaying Forsaken Plains opening was overlapping with a hell groundscape

[hollow sandal]

The accelerator is the weapon I'm into now

[vital rapids]

Accelerator and shredder are great

[orchid rover]

IDk man, playing a game with restricitons like this isn't fun for me. I'd rather have a button to increase the number of enemies

[tired rock]

Pulverizer is cool but I used it once in a blue moon goddamm

[orchid rover]

Dude, Heat Blast is absolutely insnae

[tired rock]

Speaking of Heatblast, I kinda don't like Dark Ages Heatblast compared to Eternal

It's kinda weird to control

[frail bloom]

Well it's much stronger and more fun to me but if yu don't like letting go after yu shoot to activate it I understand

[tired rock]

Like it actives once you stop shooting which is very meh, while then in Eternal you can just hold onto it

[frail bloom]

Much smoother for me but y'know it's me

[vagrant path]

dude I want a horde mode so bad

[frail bloom]

I wanna fight 30000 imp stalkers

[vagrant path]

imagine a wave based thing, survive as long as you can

[tired rock]

I hope Dark Ages multiplayer is better than the previous 2

[vagrant path]

it's not gonna have multiplayer.

[wheat sigil]

there isn't one

[tired rock]

Oh shoot

[vital rapids]

This. This and being able to design our own maps

[tired rock]

It won't have one? I'm missing the pieces here

[hollow sandal]

Yea it sucks you can't store it

[wheat sigil]

oh... ew

[low locust]

i'mma outright say it Cosmic Realm kinda made me underwhelm compared to the rest specially Sentinel Prime & the few parts of Hell

[vital rapids]

It could have. It would not have any slow mo.
It might be done best with guns. Perhaps a mode where one person gets to be Slayer/Superheavy on their team each round

[hollow sandal]

Yea it's strong but you can't store it which is why I actually don't use that upgrade branch

[frail bloom]

Funny opinionado

I thought it was very 2016 coded with it's abstractness

[tired rock]

Dark Ages gun ofc doesn't exceed Eternal's perfection which is VERY understandable but the design of these weapon are the very fucking best, the absolute top of the chart of a design

[low locust]

They're nerfing guns in a single player only game

[orchid rover]

I think the TDA Guns are an excellent arsenal, much better than I expected

[uneven mortar]

You can store the rocket chages though, it's this games equivalent

[graceful lion]

because people complained it was too easy?

[ancient herald]

Hugo Martin said no multiplayer, they want to focus on campaign and expand it.

[orchid rover]

The hell setting is kinda tired to me at this point

[delicate grotto]

Interesting. Heavily disagree on this one personally. I think it’s the most interesting environment out of all the modern Doom games. It was a highlight for me personally.

[vital rapids]

Don't know about the Eternal comparison. Taking Eternal out of context we have a decent spread of viability and utility among the weapons.

[orchid rover]

The Cosmic Realm was just getting started, I can tell Hugo LOVES this setting and wants to do more

[uneven mortar]

No multiplayer is soooo fucking peak

[graceful lion]

adding multiplayer is like making the game again, it takes a literal year or more off dev time

[orchid rover]

Giga truth

[delicate grotto]

How would you even make a MP with TDA’s combat bro.

[orchid rover]

It's so many confounding extra factors to deal with, it's just not worth it.

[wheat sigil]

very high*