the-dark-ages

[plain iron]

It's literally just a bigass forest and it's great

[frail bloom]

Gotta make un my b

Which I did, the holt took me 20 min on un

[willow beacon]

Very nice 🔥🔥

[trim crown]

Hold on.... You played Tag 1 on Nightmare? Beat the Holt 8 times consecutively? And you say you ain't built like me?

[plain iron]

Did Samur ruin any runs for you or nah

He fucked over a extra life run for me. So balls

[willow beacon]

Samur is annoying, lost my first attempt to him

[frail bloom]

Ye when I was younger but I developed strats instead of relying on quickswitching

I watched so many guide vids

Thank yu Allstin

[willow beacon]

Got it 2nd try though 🔥

[frail bloom]

Thank yu my man, it was just strategy and minimizing the amount of trouble I was gonna have

[trim crown]

Same thing I'm tryna do with TDA

[frail bloom]

Tbf I had 5 years of experience so I basically memorized every enemy spawn and they evaporated by the time I did my un run

[willow beacon]

That’s how I feel about the main campaign now 💀

[trim crown]

So you recently just did this? I just beat Eternal last year

75 hours, base and DLC

[frail bloom]

I haven't done the campaign on un tho, the dlc's yes, but time isn't on my side

[frail bloom]

Yes I did it abt 3 months ago

[willow beacon]

If you can do the DLCs you can do the campaign, it’s just a bit of a time commitment getting past cultist base

[trim crown]

Which do you think is harder, Eternal NM or TDA NM w/my settings?

[trim crown]

Cultist base music is based

[frail bloom]

Tda nightmare lol

Only reason why I die so much on un is cuz of my nerves, but eternal on nightmare normally is a breeze for me, I usually die like maybe 3 times, and that's when I'm slacking

[willow beacon]

Great music

[trim crown]

TDA has great music, just isn't implemented as well

Sometimes the same song will play for multiple missions

[frail bloom]

Ye the mixing is a bit poo poo but the spotify release is sublime

[trim crown]

The music doesn't ramp up in a timely manner

[frail bloom]

Ye they're looking into it for patches so that's good

[trim crown]

And 80% volume was not the play

I turned it to 100 and put the sfx on 60

[frail bloom]

But I love listening to it on spotify, at least it released

Looking at yu marty

Yu look like a caco's butthole

[trim crown]

Yeah that sucks

[frail bloom]

Mhm

[last herald]

Does anyone know if the berserker trophy bug is fixed yet?

[frail bloom]

Dunno

[dark peak]

cuphead 2 is real

[eager heath]

Maybe this isn't the right channel for this but does anyone have the model of the dark ages slayer toy?

[vapid lodge]

Bro Into the Void soundtrack...

Peak.

[frail bloom]

oh yeah

Here's my list:

GOATS:

From the Ashes
When the Shadows First Lengthened
Infernal chasm
Unholy siege
Into the Void

AWESOME:

Unchained predator
Atlan Battleground
Pursuit of demons
Blood red

GREAT:

Divine retribution
Hellspawn rift
Ancestral beast

Mix this with 2016, and yu will headbang forever

[vapid lodge]

was already headbanging forever with 2016 and Eternal

Now with TDA what do I do ? do it forever times 2 ?

Sure why not

[frail bloom]

Yup, don't forget dlc is coming too!!

They will improve upon this further

[hybrid jolt]

I can't lie, Dark Age's soundtrack is weak af.

They could've just ripped the old remixes of the 1993 songs and I'd accept it.

[frail bloom]

Ofc we geek out and someone comes in and ruins the fun

Blaaaa

[vapid lodge]

In game is not implemented perfectly, on its own is perfect

[celest cedar]

Darge ages gameplay is epic i got the conqurer skin already and the pandimonium skin

[vapid lodge]

Im sure it will be great but it should have been from the start

[hybrid jolt]

Andrew Hulshult's remake of the 1993 soundtrack was amazing.

[frail bloom]

Ye he's forever immortalized with his remixes

Such a great dude

[hybrid jolt]

I can't agree. I don't see anyone bumping Dark Ages' soundtrack 9 years from now like 2016

[delicate grotto]

Honestly I prefer listening to TDA’s music outside the game more than I do 2016 or Eternal.

[split gate]

You will see me

[vapid lodge]

Hulshult was asked to send a demo for TDA early in development

[frail bloom]

Wait you're serious????
Damn it not again😭 🙏

[hybrid jolt]

It's kinda insane that the only version of At Doom's Gate is from 2016 and lasts 30 seconds

[split gate]

I listen to all of the trilogy ost

[delicate grotto]

Listen to it outside the game. Might change your mind.

[frail bloom]

I second this

[delicate grotto]

I know I did.

[hybrid jolt]

The most iconic piece of music from the entire 32 year franchise, and its only in the introduction.

[split gate]

I third this

[frail bloom]

I fourth this

[vapid lodge]

the problem is not the soundtrack, its due to the fact that it was not memorable in some places in order to give you that hype

[hybrid jolt]

I've tried some of the tracks, but I have yet to find the next BFG Division, Rip And Tear, Vega Core, The Only Thing They Fear, etc.

[vapid lodge]

Take for example BFG Division or The only thing they fear - You instantly remember the levels right?

[frail bloom]

I WILL SAY THIS,

The boss tracks could be better, except from the ashes, but the rest is eh

[split gate]

There is a lot of gamerip goodness out of it that mixers like DinosaurHeretic and SCP HC used, the mixing into the game doesn’t let it shine

[frail bloom]

Try these big boys

From the ashes
Unholy siege
Infernal chasm
Into the void
When the Shadows first lengthened
Atlan battlegrounds
Blood red

[vapid lodge]

between hex and flame was something that caught my attention when the dev trailer was out, holy fuck

[delicate grotto]

It’s fair to say TDA’s music isn’t nearly as iconic or standout as 2016’s or Eternal’s, but it still has some great tracks.
Refer to @frail bloom ‘s list.

[split gate]

I personally think What Lies Below goes head to head with Mick’s tracks. It has great structure and the ending is sublime

[hybrid jolt]

In fairness, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that 2016 was the first entry in 12 years and they started from scratch. You're just on Mars, in a bunch of linear corridors. It's like a retelling of 1993, so these new tracks had a real opportunity to shine. Also id let Mick fucking cook with napalm his first go-around.

[vapid lodge]

yeah thats because they didnt standout in the game!

[frail bloom]

Some moments stood out but it repeated itself too much

[vapid lodge]

so again, Mick's work was amazing because it was extremely well mixed in the levels and WELL HEARD.

With TDA it wasnt, so its not so memorable

[hybrid jolt]

Ok I genuinely forgot that one. That one fucks.

[inner wigeon]

Only time can tell

[delicate grotto]

Yeah the mixing didn’t do the game’s music justice. Hoping to see a fix later down the line.

[split gate]

Imo, Mick did his best with 2016’s ost. It was absolutely perfect

[frail bloom]

I think I gotta give that one a listen

[vapid lodge]

they will for sure

[delicate grotto]

It’s pretty good

[vapid lodge]

they really gave no fucks about the mixing man...

[hybrid jolt]

And tbf, 2016 wasn't nearly as open. It's way easier to make a soundtrack for a level that's super linear and condensed. Dark Ages has a ton of semi-open levels.

[frail bloom]

The first time I listened to the ost my head was hurting a lot lol

[vapid lodge]

yeah I get what you're getting. I guess

[inner wigeon]

I agree that tda has some banger but holy, you guys have some odd favorites. I never see theomachy or like… the MAIN song unchained predator being repped

[frail bloom]

Probably farty stratton

I also hate that hugo calls it a rock-concert LIKE NO MAN IT'S MORE THAN THAT

[delicate grotto]

lol damn. Well it’ll be better to give it a relisten when you can

[hybrid jolt]

The soundtrack is built off the level, not vice versa. 2016's soundtrack was built around encounters, while Dark Ages is more for entire levels.

[frail bloom]

Ye remember that first day? We were not happy lol

[delicate grotto]

Yeah..

[split gate]

Theomachy is fan freaking tastic,

[vapid lodge]

yeah Hugo should stay away from the music, let the devs and composers + artists to make that

[plain iron]

REAL !!

[frail bloom]

It's still like that, yu have light, heavy and ambiance

[delicate grotto]

I never really listened to that one. I should listen to it again.

[hybrid jolt]

Keep in mind, Hugo and Marty were in charge when id told Mick "No metal."

[vapid lodge]

im not really into what lies below, not yet

[frail bloom]

Nah hugo has nthin to do with it, different department

[hybrid jolt]

Also Rip And Tear was rejected very early on. It only made its way into the game because they ran into a deadline and needed a final track.

Mick's own words

[delicate grotto]

To be fair they didn’t know what many composers were capable of, including Mick, when it came to guitars.
Apparently they thought it’d be too cheesy. I’d assume they were thinking more about classic guitar riffs than the industrial metal Mick blessed our ears with.

[frail bloom]

Well I trust him duh

[vapid lodge]

So far for me:

From the ashes
Unholy siege
Unchained Predator
Infernal chasm
Into the void
When the Shadows first lengthened

[hybrid jolt]

Mick Gordon was when id Software discovered synth metal lmao

[delicate grotto]

Seriously? That’s insane. That’s my favorite track from 2016.

[frail bloom]

Don't forget atlan battlegrounds it's very 2016

And blood red for it's heavenly orchestra

[vapid lodge]

Low key I want to see interview with finishing move and how they talk about development...

[hybrid jolt]

BFG Division is mine, but yeah, Rip and Tear was one of the first tracks, and was rejected by id until the last few weeks before development ended.

[vapid lodge]

especially what they think of Mick and the drama

[plain iron]

Theomancy, The Prince and apotheosis rahh!!!

[hybrid jolt]

Tbf 2016 was likely id's last game

[split gate]

I want to hear their mindset, god it must have been a massive weight on their shoulders

[vapid lodge]

yeah my point exactly

[hybrid jolt]

If 2016 flopped, id was a dead company.

[vapid lodge]

Also the Komodo Champion soundtrack is not included in the OST

and is a banger

[delicate grotto]

More than likely.
Thank god they scrapped Doom 4.

[split gate]

Imagine being in FM’s position, you’re given a chance to make an ost for one of the most iconic franchises of all time, and you know everyone is not gonna like it because of bias

And they absolutely did their best, I applaud them tbh

[tepid verge]

Are there any information on the campaign dlc?

[hybrid jolt]

Lowkey I wanna see what Doom 4 could've been. It would've probably made money, but it would've killed the franchise.

[hot lava]

Alright I just beat TDA

[hybrid jolt]

It just came out 😭

[tepid verge]

I know.. but i still want more

[vapid lodge]

so late? I suppose you were busy with life when it was out? How was it (the game)?

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276768233957101588/1372727200834650133/image0.jpg?ex=68350254&is=6833b0d4&hm=c16e986e0f62e1a7ae5f686802d813760de99d517ddc2c2d62139969e5500ddc&

Mick's statement on the whole review bombing of eternal, I presume that his opinion for TDA is the same

[compact cosmos]

Need Photo mode like in doom eternal

[split gate]

This is what I want to shove down the throat of Mick’s most psycho fans

[hybrid jolt]

It's kinda funny that id was so confident when they came out against Mick. When a company is that confident and sure of themselves, it sounds like Mick was cooked lol

[vapid lodge]

2 things I need to hear

Mick's opinion of TDA OST

Finishing Move opinion on how the development went throughout the years

[tepid verge]

I want the dlc to lead straight into 2016, so it will be like a clean transition to it

[delicate grotto]

I still haven’t beat it
Just got back from a trip. Had to leave two days after it released, which was during finals. Terrible timing on my part but it is what it is. Been spoiled on a couple things sadly.

[vapid lodge]

I dont think Ill ever let go what they did to Mick man... but im happy with what Finishing move did

[hybrid jolt]

Doom has gotten to a point where id can't think of a way to put Doomguy into a position where a temple gets dropped on him

[hot lava]

I think my tierlist is ;
TDA, DE, 2016.

The crunchiness of the combat was great. Parry was a power fantasy. Maybe would have liked more demand to swap weapons the last few missions I just used cycler and ravager didn’t need anything else.

Pacing was a bit weird but okay I was secret hunting in my first play through so defo like at least doubled the play time

[hybrid jolt]

2016 begins after Doomguy got his ass beat. I guess id forgot that along the way. No, he has to be an unstoppable terminator edgy 2000s oc

[plain iron]

Deadass. Like man even mick himself is saying not to do shit like that

[vapid lodge]

i dont think you can say he got his ass beat, he was trapped, who the hell can beat this guy lmfao

[thin zinc]

i assume the dark ages campaign expansion will lead right into 2016 with him getting locked in the coffin and samuel hayden taking him to the UAC facility or something

[split gate]

It does leave a sour taste but Mick waa goated for saying to continue the support for Doom, we do him well by supporting FM

[vapid lodge]

right ! 🙂

[tranquil bluff]

truth nuke

[hybrid jolt]

The shield was a great concept, but I would've loved if the melee weapons were slotted in the shield spot.

"Do you wanna block all hitscan damage or beat the dogshit out of the Cyderdemon?" sounded more interesting to me.

[tepid verge]

I would assume that he would get tricked into getting in some sort of position somehow. Im not a very good story writer but that’s my idea

[hot lava]

Currently watching the credits for the last 10m for TDA raging over a single person is smooth brain

[vapid lodge]

well yeah because DOOM doesnt equal Marty, all the creative people and devs made what DOOM is, regardless of corporate bullshit

[delicate grotto]

I’m interested to see where the Doom franchise goes. I can see the Slayer testaments being turned into a trilogy, starting with TDA. Not sure where the franchise will go after that though. Doom Eternal wrapped mostly everything up. Although we still don’t know who that Mysterious Voice is. I presume TDA didn’t shed any light on that? If it did, relocate that to #1369206341003903018

[vapid lodge]

So its natural he loves DOOM

[hybrid jolt]

He cooked with Atomic Heart.

[split gate]

Exactly. It was so easy to say otherwise tho and throw a punch, but Mick handled it maturely

[thin zinc]

too bad atomic heart wasnt a great game not a lot of people played

[hybrid jolt]

Ayo?

[thin zinc]

his killer instinct tracks are still incredible

[hybrid jolt]

Atomic Heart was fantastic

[delicate grotto]

I heard Atomic Heart was decent. Not great, but decent.

[tepid verge]

I’ll try to wait patiently for the dlc 😅 we’ll see

[hot lava]

Just like “slayer continues to want to slay” Prince A implies King A so who knows

[delicate grotto]

Didn’t GeoffPlaysGuitar also compose for that game?

[hybrid jolt]

No, it was a great game. The plot was kinda ass, but still a great experience. Wolfenstein but you kill communists. Pretty peak.

[hot lava]

Like who really controls the hordes

[tranquil bluff]

I need to learn how to use mace better I just use it to cheese bosses

[hot lava]

That’s how you use it

[vapid lodge]

the mace is BFG on a stick

[hybrid jolt]

That's why it should've taken up the shield slot. You either get pure defense or pure offense.

[split gate]

We’re in a position to give more reasonable critique and feedback for FM to help them see what they could do better, we can’t miss that opportunity

[hot lava]

I used the club mostly

[thin zinc]

im checking out the atomic heart soundtrack. never heard it. right away, it's instantly obviously mick gordon 😄

[tranquil bluff]

big fucking club

[hot lava]

The last one

[delicate grotto]

There’s also Archdemons that have yet to be explored.
Or the Wretch.

[vapid lodge]

from the trailers I never really liked the dreadmace, but it is incredibly useful when you combine with other upgrades and reduce the cooldown

[hybrid jolt]

Can we admit the BFG in Dark Ages looks like dogshit?

[vapid lodge]

so far I can't play without it

[vapid lodge]

bruh are you rage baiting

[tepid crypt]

Eternal ass rage bait

[thin zinc]

i actually laughed when it was the bfC instead of G. in a good way. so silly

[tranquil bluff]

taken as a royal we?

[hybrid jolt]

Wow, a crossbow. So cool. The most iconic gun in the entire franchise, and it's a crossbow. So cool. Wow, I'm glad you took 5 years to come up with such an innovative design like that.

[tranquil bluff]

Nintendo Wii?

[vapid lodge]

bro doesnt know the calamity blade

[split gate]

We? Who is we 😭

[thin zinc]

i mean im sure they didnt spend the whole 5 years just designing the crossbow

[tranquil bluff]

what do you mean we

[tepid crypt]

There is no we

[hybrid jolt]

You mean that gun that's older than 95% of the people in this discord?

[vapid lodge]

bruh, someone help

[tepid crypt]

(He’s baiting you don’t feed him his gummies)

[hybrid jolt]

Laziest thing I've ever seen in the entire franchise. I wish I was trolling.

[vapid lodge]

yeah im off to sleep to some TDA music

oh wait I can't

[hybrid jolt]

It looks like the Ballista from Temu 😭

[delicate grotto]

Would it really make sense for the actual BFG to be there though?
Remember that the Slayer is trapped in a war between Argenta and Hell. There is no UAC this time around. All of his artillery has to be themed around Sentinel and Hell technology. I think the Crossbow fits nicely.

[hybrid jolt]

Laughing Mexican emoji all you want, but I'm right lol

[split gate]

I don’t mind it, I miss the BFG’s effects when you shoot it and as it keeps flying, it kills everything, that’s what it missing imo

[vapid lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[wheat ibex]

[vapid lodge]

[hybrid jolt]

That's a big thing I don't like about TDA. Doom was always sci-fi meets Biblical horror. Dark Ages copied Quake's homework. Doom without heavy sci-fi isn't Doom imo

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[wheat ibex]

[vapid lodge]

I am laugfhing so hard im crying for real

[hybrid jolt]

If only those emojis translated to sales numbers 🥺

[delicate grotto]

Meh, I still think Sentinel technology is heavily sci-fi inspired but I can see what you’re saying.

[wheat ibex]

[vapid lodge]

bro I can't see I have so many tears lmfaoooo

[woven pond]

2.5 million sales on the opening week

[hybrid jolt]

*players 🤓☝️

[split gate]

TDA did pretty well tho no? 3 million 👀

[delicate grotto]

TDA outperformed Eternal and 2016 in that regard.

[vapid lodge]

This is the best counter rage bait ever

[hybrid jolt]

Game Pass numbers

[woven pond]

still in the six digits

[frail bloom]

Welp I'm gone, see ya

[stuck widget]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-a-great-day-rick-roll-rick-astley-suprise-suprise-gif-23223505

[wheat ibex]

Rage baiter final boss

[woven pond]

less players on Steam though

[hybrid jolt]

I actually liked a lot of the Sentinel stuff from Eternal. Medieval scifi is hard to pull off, but I think Eternal did a good job. The Ballista was great, but nothing will top the Gauss Cannon

[hot lava]

Could have been like a green sentinel hammer you Jump up into the sky and smash down killing everything

[woven pond]

TBF the first guys who jumped on TDA were playing dogshit anyway but had huge audiences

[split gate]

Guass cannon was ridiculous bro, it made the game piss easy 😭

[hybrid jolt]

DSP

[vapid lodge]

so basically just the slayer falling / landing

[woven pond]

so that affected Steam numbers (because impressionable audiences who cant form their own opinions)

[hot lava]

Battle Forged Hammer

[wheat ibex]

They were playing with a guitar hero controller

[hybrid jolt]

Play on Nightmare and we'll see. Also Doom was never about balancing, it was about having fun. I will agree that siege mode was lowkey kinda OP

[split gate]

I did man, I even beat UN, it was so op it’s funny

[vapid lodge]

I dont think the slayer is causing the landing quake .... I think its his argent balls of steel that cause it, hence why he is so tanky

[split gate]

But it was still fun to use

[woven pond]

It was until guys like Oyff, Sylar, and more popular ones like JackSepticEye, they play much better, but appeared a few days after release

[hybrid jolt]

"Erm the players are having too much fun in this single-player game! Nerf the absolute fuck out of the super shotgun and BFG ☝️🤓" is a dogshit mentality and only contributed to Doom's decline.

[honest vortex]

🤓 tbf that's players, not sales. Hue hue

[vapid lodge]

hey bro here's some Laughing mexicans

[wheat ibex]

[oblique halo]

Lmaooo

[dense garden]

👀

[hybrid jolt]

I can't for the life of me bother with perma-death mechanics. I don't see how that's fun outside of YouTuber shenanigans.

[vapid lodge]

4:40 AM and im screaming of laughter

[split gate]

Oh yeah true, Gamepass was a factor

[vapid lodge]

I can't man I can't

[oblique halo]

I like the laughing Mexicans I need more 🤣🤣

[hybrid jolt]

When it translates to sales, I'll concede, homie.

[plain iron]

[honest vortex]

Yeah I think the vast majority of players were Game Pass.

But it's cool that it's been a huge success on Game Pass

[split gate]

It’s really fun for the challenge and to test your skills and how well you know the game

[vapid lodge]

what do you mean Mexicans translate to sales? fuck you mean????

Im dead

[delicate grotto]

Singleplayer games on gamepass isn’t a good move for sales but, I’m glad more people are getting into Doom because of it.

[plain iron]

Mm yes the majority of doom players are Mexicans ig

[woven pond]

Already more successful (already confirmed) than the two previous entries of modern Doom yet youre like this

[vapid lodge]

ayo bro ngl its all red in hell and Mexico

[wheat ibex]

Agreed

It’s a good move for player numbers 📈though
And that’s their bottom line at the end of the day

[split gate]

Yes those numbers still matter, they were larger than Eternal. Even if sales can be iffy

[hybrid jolt]

It's been proven. Most players are on Game Pass. That's not inherently bad, I think Game Pass is a great thing. Why spend fucking $70 on a game when you can get it for $10?

I still supported the series because I'm on PS and PC nowadays.

[honest vortex]

That is true.

I think the reason for Dark Ages poor sales is honestly because of forced Ray tracing and $70 price tag

[vapid lodge]

Dear God, please bring more rage baiters so I can send them "laughing Mexicans"

( Poor Risitas is looking at us from the sky )

[plain iron]

I can confirm its the same here in Australia

[split gate]

I second this

[vapid lodge]

Except no demons because the damn spiders

[hybrid jolt]

Incorrect. Player count is not the same as sales numbers. People here are acting like I'm celebrating them failing or something, I'm just saying that id said they had 3M PLAYERS, not SALES.

[vapid lodge]

actually he is kinda right here

[wheat ibex]

At the end of the day it depends on which company it is

Hell EA saw the dead space remake sales as a failure somehow ☠️

[vapid lodge]

3M players is a marketing / corporate move

same for AC shadows and other games did that

[plain iron]

The Northern Territory is very very orange.

[hybrid jolt]

We can wait 2 months, and let's see where 2016, Eternal, and Dark Ages have their respective seats in the SALES department.

[split gate]

Yeah it was just players and that still counts as a success 👀

[hybrid jolt]

Also EA has the mental capacity if a dyslexic monkey

[vapid lodge]

I really am sad for id software that TDA didnt get the attention it deserved...

id software deserves GOTY award

[honest vortex]

It's sad that Dark Ages isn't selling as fast as Eternal. But I can understand the reasoning because of this.

[plain iron]

Maybe not game of the year, but it definitely deserves awards at the ceremony

[hybrid jolt]

It doesn't count as a success. Xbox measures REAL success based on how many Game Pass subscribers a game brings.

[vapid lodge]

I was really hoping this year for GOTY but I dont think we will

Eternal should have had it back in 2020...

[honest vortex]

Also of course Game Pass contributed to slower sales than Eternal as well

[hybrid jolt]

I'm super critical of Eternal, but yeah, it deserved GOTY no contest.

[vapid lodge]

agreed

[woven pond]

Much higher competition RN + Pandemic back then kinda helped with vidya games

[sweet escarp]

Would you guys say that the boss fights are better in Doom The Dark Ages Or Doom Eternal?

[plain iron]

TDA.

[hybrid jolt]

That goofy JRPG Expedition 33 is gonna win for 2025

[hard thistle]

why i pinged

[thin zinc]

i think dark ages' boss fights are leaps and bounds better than eternals and ancient gods'

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages by far.

Eternal IMO has the lamest bosses of the whole trilogy, outside of Gladiator who was pretty cool.

[split gate]

I mean like the number of players, seeing that a very large amount of people went for TDA is still great, and that number was higher than Eternal

[vapid lodge]

I dont think exp 33 is goofy, its extremely detailed but its not my type of game

[small echo]

Is there anything for the best levels to farm each weapon mastery

[vapid lodge]

Gladiator was stand and fight

[hybrid jolt]

Let them release sales numbers first

[honest vortex]

Eternal's the lamest bosses of the whole trilogy and it ain't even remotely close IMO

[split gate]

Sales is left to be desired but it shows people still care about Doom

[oblique halo]

I believe this guy is right

[hot lava]

I was worried it might glitch out but gg no re

[thin zinc]

i agree. the icon of sin was generic and lame to me, then the dark lord was extremely boring and easy

[vapid lodge]

dont listen to that idiot

[hybrid jolt]

Eternal's bosses were actual ass outside of the Gladiator

[plain iron]

Mine didn't glitch at all

[frail bloom]

Him being the last hellknight was so awesome man

Such a personal fight

[hybrid jolt]

That part was cinema

[frail bloom]

THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING A TDA VERISION OF THE BARON
CUZ I WANT ONE HUGO

[vapid lodge]

I wanted marauders again

[honest vortex]

To me. Sales give them more money for higher quality DLCs and Master Levels, and it would let the next game be even more awesome.

Which I'm sure are going to be awesome regardless, but the money would allow them to be even more awesome I think

[woven pond]

Havent even played TDA but its bosses are far more intimidating the DE's (which I have played).
Seriously for a supposed young prince Azhrak was more intimidating than Davoth, who's the literal Creator.

[hot lava]

Okay name one FPS boss you liked and why? All I’ve seen you do is complain today

[vapid lodge]

i dont know people say the aggadon hunter is the new marauder.

Cosmic Baron just shouts IMMEDIATE DANGER when he arrives

[hybrid jolt]

I just think a lot of people here think I have some vendetta against Doom. I'm just brutally honest with games I adore. Doom is up there among my favorites, so I tend to give a very unfiltered opinion.

[split gate]

True true, the numbers can give them confidence

[honest vortex]

I thought they liked Dark Ages bosses

[hybrid jolt]

2016 is one of the best games ever made

[thin zinc]

i like the dark ages final boss. the parrying and everything was great. and it went on for several phases and got better and better

[vapid lodge]

Isabelle vs fish

[hot lava]

Change me mind that cosmic baron isn’t just a shaved Shambler

[frail bloom]

I don't see anyone here hating them we all love them

[vapid lodge]

youre right but he is amazing to fight, felt like the new marauder

[hybrid jolt]

Nah its just those dudes spamming that emoji en masse over some innocuous opinion they didn't particularly care for

[thin zinc]

i think doom eternal is probably the best fps ever made, but if it has any flaw i think the boss fights were lame

[oblique halo]

I believe this guy is right too

[hot lava]

Hardest enemies in the game;
Nightmare imps and shield guy with machine gun. Change my mind

[split gate]

Nah you’re chill bro

[vapid lodge]

yeah man, doom is shit, can't you tell we all dislike it here?

Here you forgot some mexicans

[honest vortex]

I agree with this part

[plain iron]

Ahzrak is more intimidating due to his design imo. A "feminine" man beating your ass is a lot more intimidating than big dude in mech

[frail bloom]

Chaingunner mister

He's called the chaingunner

[split gate]

mexican man is just too funny

[vapid lodge]

bro I can't stop laughing when we reply with KEKW to rage baiters... lmfaoooo

[hot lava]

So small and hit scans from 20 miles away and always the Captain (blue)

[inner wigeon]

?????

[woven pond]

Presentation matters too. Davoth was just getting his ass handed over. Azhrak actually dealt some blows before he got beaten.

[vapid lodge]

dont forget, he said we can throw "laughing mexicans" at him all day, because he said he is right

[hybrid jolt]

You are why I hope Doom dies and Hugo Martin is forced to foreclose his home.

[honest vortex]

I believe he's saying he himself might be coming across that he hates DOOM and he's not trying to seem that way

[vapid lodge]

Bro this guy lmfaooo

[plain iron]

He's perceived as "weak" or "cowardly" because of his design and character. Him beating our ass despite him looking "weaker" is what gives him that intimidation value

[frail bloom]

I'm not even sure anymore

[woven pond]

Where's the caco kekw

[hybrid jolt]

Wait, doesn't that mean you agree? You throw Mexicans at me because I'm right?

[oblique halo]

NAHHH LMAO

[plain iron]

[vapid lodge]

yes yes, you are right ofc

[frail bloom]

[hybrid jolt]

Goated emoji lmfao

[plain iron]

[frail bloom]

Foreclose

[vapid lodge]

Admins please dont ban this guy PLEASE

[frail bloom]

Bruh I can't

Welp, gonna start drawing muh classic baron

[split gate]

Hugo will circle strafe around the foreclosure

[hybrid jolt]

Let's wait a month and we'll see where Doom is at. All the Laughing Mexican emojis in the Doom multivitaminverse can't save you 😈

[inner wigeon]

That is nowhere stated in design philosophy, matter a fact his taller physique combined with his horns actually work against that. Davoth wasn’t very intimidating because they smooshed his existence into a very short lasted dlc with a plot point nobody really cared about

[hybrid jolt]

Respect to this dude for actually calling him Doomguy and not that goofy ass DOOM SLAYER

[vapid lodge]

Bro I just read this again and I spit my monitor. The fuck you mean FORCLOSE his home??

[hybrid jolt]

You're trolling for a solid hour, but when I do it, you gotta fact check

[vapid lodge]

Like imagine Hugo goes to his kids and say:

Yeah so Kratonos said doom is shit so we gotta pack, gtfo

[hybrid jolt]

It's not that deep

[oblique halo]

Bro is he still going ?

[hybrid jolt]

Yes, I unironically meant Hugo Martin will be homeless

[sweet escarp]

@thin zinc @honest vortex Yeah I agree. I like the gladiator boss fight and his theme from Eternal. My favorite in Dark Ages is || Ahzrak enhanced. Mainly because he was the only one who damaged and nearly beat Doom Slayer || .

[plain iron]

Yeah okay sure

[split gate]

Chat he’s got a point 👀

[vapid lodge]

yo what the actual hell even Azhrak is mindfucked by this

[honest vortex]

Jin Kazama's mother be spitting facts right now

[hybrid jolt]

Fym "still going"? Homie I'm not the one pushing it, go back to shooting that goofy ahh crossbow they call the "BFG"

[woven pond]

[oblique halo]

[vapid lodge]

[wheat ibex]

Ehrm actually BFC🤓

[woven pond]

Ahh so youre one of those people. I think both are cool 😎

[hot lava]

Alright let’s tone down the shit posting a small bit

[vapid lodge]

Nah bro he will live with 47apples

[hybrid jolt]

Ok Kranatos, at a certain point, we gotta talk about how much effort you put into spamming every message I post with 487 emojis. Relax, please.

[split gate]

Both are badass names

[oblique halo]

Nah bro he might be homeless too 🤣

[hot lava]

47 apples is what happens when you fuck with the maths book in school

[vapid lodge]

Is it ok if this kind of chat is taken to #general?

[hybrid jolt]

😦

[split gate]

Bro they called you a math problem fr

[vapid lodge]

bro I am crying so much of laughter holy hell

[hot lava]

John has 3 apples and divided by zero. John is now in the hell dimension with 47 apples. How many apples does Jenny have?

[hybrid jolt]

They said I hit the math books and implied that was bad

[vapid lodge]

he will get a mexican to solve it

[hybrid jolt]

Negative sales numbers

[split gate]

Okay that’s funny

[hybrid jolt]

No its not

[vapid lodge]

Bro has 2 neurons fighting for the 3rd place

[inner wigeon]

Look guys I sort of won an internet debate can I get a cookie

[hybrid jolt]

Don't laugh. This isn't funny. Hugo is on the verge of homelessness, and you're laughing.

[split gate]

Shit I forgor 💀

[vapid lodge]

heyo bro you made my night, for real. I laughed too much

[wheat ibex]

I am and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

[hybrid jolt]

Coming from a guy in braincell debt to Israel, this is insane ngl

[woven pond]

DW I got 80 dollars for him

[split gate]

He might as well live in Infernal Chasm at that rate

[hybrid jolt]

Ngl idk what half of these emojis imply

[vapid lodge]

Laughing mexicans, you said it yourself

[hybrid jolt]

Wtf does mean?

[tender yacht]

what do the trading cards on steam do?

[snow hinge]

This achievement's really weird because it popped for me while I was loading into a level but I didn't even have all the upgrades yet

[hybrid jolt]

Laughing Mexican vs generic wall #173922749^45 is the same thing. Ok, lil bro.

[vapid lodge]

you can sell them, i think...

[tender yacht]

they like 20 cents

[woven pond]

"Woe, Mexican Man be Upon Ye"

[vapid lodge]

yeah sometimes they increase in value or some of them are really expensive, hundreds of $$$

[tender yacht]

maybe for some super old games where getting the cards is ultra rare

[hybrid jolt]

Aight y'all it's been fun, but I got some Memorial Day BS I gotta do in the morning. Please don't spam laughing Mexicans at me while I sleep.

[tender yacht]

but def not for doom

[oblique halo]

Man I love TDA

[vapid lodge]

guys we gotta stop with shitposting, we might get warns or muted

[woven pond]

💨 🫲 👨‍🦲

[vapid lodge]

I definitely wont

[hybrid jolt]

This implies you're wafting the fart of a Mexican man into your own face...

[willow dagger]

Yo I just did a brand new save file and did all upgrades for the shield and melees and I still didn’t get the berserker trophy on PlayStation what am I missing??

[vapid lodge]

yeah or the very rare ones

[snow hinge]

Why he bald

[vapid lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-right-breaking-bad-gif-14029087

[willow dagger]

Is it because I upgraded everything at once on a chapter before 22??

[hybrid jolt]

Laughing Mexican

[tender yacht]

happene for me too

[snow hinge]

You're not missing anything, that trophy's bugged on all platforms

[vapid lodge]

Jesus go to sleep mr Math problem

[tender yacht]

you need to do the mastery for all weapons achievements for it to load

[woven pond]

Nah its clearly moving towards you, your perception of movement must be skewed

[vapid lodge]

doom eternal is slow for him

[willow dagger]

I literally did everything in the game like this is my last trophy

[hybrid jolt]

If you're missing 1 trophy, but there are 5 Mexicans laughing at you, how many Mexicans do you need to fix your problem?

[tender yacht]

then you cant get it until next patch

[neon perch]

This game does NOT get enough flowers for the nonlinear levels. Map22 in particular is amazing.

[woven pond]

47 apples apparently

[vapid lodge]

negative Mexicans

[willow dagger]

Wow that’s bullshit

[oblique halo]

The BFC

[hybrid jolt]

And that's why Donald Trump is in...okay I'll stop.

[astral quail]

?? the mastery challenges? no you do not

[inner wigeon]

2

[hybrid jolt]

Donald Trump emoji

[vapid lodge]

admin dont ban this guy for real

[woven pond]

Wow you got immediately political, sheesh ok anyway so uhhh

[tender yacht]

thats what it did for me

[woven pond]

this got a huge laugh out of me

[vapid lodge]

same man, honest to God, TEARS

[hybrid jolt]

Had fun myself. Goodnight, y'all. Don't let the laughing Mexicans get you.

[vapid lodge]

I usually get this kind of laugh with the boys on voice channel, extremely rare to laugh this much only on text lmfao

[split gate]

Bro aren’t you supposed to be hitting the Zzzzzz, ohhh, mimimimi by now

[vapid lodge]

yeah theyll give us 47 math problems

[oblique halo]

I just love TDA a lot

[vapid lodge]

26th of may I wont forget this day holy hell I will come back to this

[vapid lodge]

based

anyways so I started laughing

[scenic lichen]

Just beat level 16, i absolutely adore this game

im putting it on par with eternal in my tier list

[snow hinge]

It's pretty close to that spot on my list

[scenic lichen]

700 hours on eternal and im so grateful for TDA, it truly adds to journeying the whole franchise when u playh all the games

[woven pond]

Havent played TDA but having been a Space Marine 2 enjoyer tanky stompy Doomguy is someone I look forward to playing as

[sweet escarp]

God damn, I need to rack up some hours, lol

[snow hinge]

Eternal is middle of S tier on my list, and then TDA is at the top of A tier. At some point I'm probably gonna move it around but for now I think that's a pretty good spot

[oblique halo]

This was my first doom when I beat this one I went to eternal and beat it I need to play 2016 but they truly have made a wonderful game with TDA

[honest vortex]

I love 2016 and TDA a lot

[sweet escarp]

I have 621 hours of Doom Eternal.

[honest vortex]

Wait I just realized you're on one of the Reina servers as well

[woven pond]

Not to mention, "buhuh the Atlan missions are too repetitive" stfu and idk GIANT PACIFIC RIM MECHAS ARE COOL

[scenic lichen]

so far i have doom 2016 top of A tier and doom eternal in S tier

[inner wigeon]

THEYRE CALLED JAEGERS

[scenic lichen]

id understand if they add an option to skip them in the future but i personally dont find them bad

[oblique halo]

I need to finish 2016 then I can determine where these rank on tier list

[scenic lichen]

they're simple, but fun

[woven pond]

Yes indeed, and we play as Doom Jaegers

[scenic lichen]

especially the one in the hell lvl for the 2nd time

its all about the feel tbh and holy shit uppercut finishing a titan will never get old to me

[woven pond]

Exactly not everything needs to have a million mechanics to be fun

[honest vortex]

Idk why but the mechs feel cool as hell. Despite how limited their gameplay is

I dislike the dragons, but the mechs are pretty cool

[snow hinge]

Funny, I'm the opposite

[honest vortex]

I like how you can dodge cancel any of your attacks with them

[snow hinge]

I could do without the mechs but I had fun with the dragon

[sweet escarp]

yep

[uneven dragon]

the dragon was more fun than i thought it would be

but i really wish that it was more dogfighter combat like with the hell ships rather than the stationary dodging

the chasing after hellships gameplay is actually so much fun and the rest is just kinda servicable

[dense tapir]

any fix for random crashes? im up to date on all the drivers. i have a 4080 and 5900x
game just randomly freezes when i play'
and i cant even close it after it crashes. i have to task manager it
alt f4 doesnt even work lmfa

[snow hinge]

They're working on it, that's really all we know

[dense tapir]

lmfao nice

[delicate grotto]

Absolutely.
I really think that’s the root of the problem with those dragon sections. You have to sit and wait for a green attack until you can proceed. It gets mundane very quickly. Chasing after ships and evading environmental obstacles is where the dragon combat shines.

[uneven dragon]

the dodging sections of the dragon parts are just too similar to mech gameplay

and they feel so slow for what should feel so fast

[delicate grotto]

If the larger ships and tentacle creatures were a little more dynamic and didn’t force a “sit and wait” approach, it’d be a lot more interesting.

[delicate grotto]

Agreed

[honest vortex]

Reina's peak?

[visual trail]

dark ages combat loop just becomes more and more beautiful the more i play it. it fits my play style perfectly and i love it. i like to rush into arenas and just start straight slaughtering everything in my path as aggressively as possible

[honest vortex]

Eren Jaeger?!?!??!!

[sweet escarp]

Iyeah

[inner wigeon]

A surge of tekken players have been noticeably active here

[small echo]

What's a good level to grind out the masteries

[honest vortex]

Reina and Kazuya Mishima is the most badass character ever created. It's almost unbelievable that such a badass character even exists.

[honest vortex]

But yeah Tekken awesome. A shame what happened to Tekken 8 n Season 2

[inner wigeon]

As a Steve player I lay low and hope no nerfs go en route

[real rampart]

Roll back the nvidia driver to 576.28, I had the same issue, rolled back and it solved it for me

[dense tapir]

bruh no way

[real rampart]

yes way

any "intended" drivers post dark ages break the game if you have a nvidia card with an amd processor

it will warn you to update, but ignore that and the game will work 100%

[hollow sandal]

What weapons do you like using?

[zealous thorn]

Is there a hidden achievement for 100% on all Ultra Nightmare chapters because I missed a ruby in Chapter 5 and won’t let me replay the chapter

[real rampart]

no

[zealous thorn]

Thank god

I have 100% on all missions thru chapter 13 but it’s under Nightmare

[hollow sandal]

Tru

[zealous thorn]

I know there’s an achievement for getting “100% on all chapters under one save file”

[acoustic plover]

I just best Ultra Nightmare what's the next step, I need more slaying

[zealous thorn]

All achievements?

[visual trail]

super shotgun and the flail. i use the holy swarm for my shield rune

[acoustic plover]

Achieved

100%, pandemonium, UN, all skins acquired (minus legionary)

Gonna mod that one lol^

[zealous thorn]

Does clearing Ultra Nightmare clear Pandemonium automatically?

[acoustic plover]

I did pandemonium first so idk

[zealous thorn]

UN but Modified to be a lot harder I guess

[acoustic plover]

Scary but I guess you're right

[velvet elbow]

Legionary has gotta be available another way

It’s the last god damn one I need and it pisses me off cus it looks very cool

[small echo]

Got the platinum

This has to be the easiest one

[acoustic plover]

There's a mod that unlocks all of them including two that haven't even been revealed yet

[frank turtle]

Cosmic baron is so dope

[velvet elbow]

Nice

Also I am on my last life for seige part 2 did they fucking buff revenants? And isn’t there supposed to be a 5 hp buffer?

[velvet elbow]

Pls send me pic of unrevealed skins thx

[delicate grotto]

Probably did.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if they increased the cooldown on that buffer.

Update intended to make the game harder

[violet lynx]

why does dark ages look so much more blury than eternal

[velvet elbow]

Fuck you id, very cool

[violet lynx]

i thought the graphics were sussupoed to be a big improvment, and also the effects in dark ages just look like slop

[velvet elbow]

HDR bug, they’re working on it

[violet lynx]

why does hdr affect that if i dont play in hdr

also people are litterly making mods to turn off the affects in dark ages so it isnt just me

[delicate grotto]

Graphics are incredible. Even on console, they’re a massive upgrade from Eternal.
If you haven’t already, turn off motion blur.
If you’re still having issues, it’s definitely a problem on your end.

You can look up some TDA gameplay. It’s way more crisp and detailed than Doom 2016 and Eternal.

Honestly I didn’t realize how shitty some of the texturing was in Eternal until I saw a comparison video of all 3 games.

[violet lynx]

what sharpnes am i susspoed to play on

[violet lynx]

bro the textures in eternal are perfect and way more crisp

[delicate grotto]

As said before, if the game looks bad, it’s on your end. It’s likely a performance issue. TDA is riddled with them, I’m ngl.

But there are patches in the works.

[violet lynx]

it dosnt look bad it just looks alot worse than eternal, and it cant be anything on my end since my game is fine

[violet lynx]

this is why they should of spent more time before releasing the game

they should of spent extra years to bake the lighting as well ngl

[mental grotto]

Graphically tda is superior to eternal in basically every way. You’re coping and it’s a you issue lol

Turn up sharpness/DLSS sharpness maybe

[violet lynx]

coping for what?, also its not just me ALOT of other people agree and people are litterly making mods to turn off effects in dark ages

[violet lynx]

i did alot but then it just ends up looking over sharpend, in eternal i can just do 47 sharpness and it looks perfect

[delicate grotto]

Probably wasn’t id’s choice.
Game doesn’t have a lot of bugs, and the performance issues are for select rigs. Kind of impossible to test every single possible build. The optimization just wasn’t up to the typical id software standard. We don’t know what goes on in the background of development. Not defending the shitty PC launch, but I doubt it was the result of a rushed game.

[violet lynx]

there isnt any bugs they should of just spent more time on making the textures more crisp and the effects and fog not complete slop vasline

the gameplay is fantastic btw dont get it twisted

[delicate grotto]

Several others have come here complaining about the graphics. Usually it’s due to some weird setting. I’d try to look for a fix somewhere online, or perhaps come back here and ask for a fix when someone more knowledgeable is present.

Personally I don’t know

[nimble rose]

Do the tutorials reappear, when I start a fresh new savegame?

[delicate grotto]

If you have tutorials on, yes. You can turn them off.

[acoustic plover]

Want me to dm you? Idk if im allowed to put them here

[velvet elbow]

You are allowed if the bot will let you, otherwise just DM me

[hard thistle]

Does anyone have any dark ages memes I have one but want more thanks

[velvet elbow]

GOD DAMN IT I DIED NEAR THE END OF SEIGE 2

At least I got 2 lives that saved my ass

Anyways I think I figured out the mindset you need for UN

It’s literally just Sekiro, hesitation is defeat

That sense you get fighting with sheer focus and commitment to your actions are what determine whether you survive

[honest vortex]

I used to love Steve before Season 2. He doesn't feel like Steve anymore

I play mostly Kazuya , Devil Jin, and Reina. (Sometimes Heihachi too) Used to play Lee, Steve, and Lidia as well back in Season 1.

[velvet elbow]

Actually just DM them to me

[honest vortex]

God I forgot how much Chapter 14's music slapped

The bass and percussion sound like modern day Bobby Prince shit

[velvet elbow]

Bro the music is amazing it was just mixed badly

[honest vortex]

Yeah. I have the settings like 70 SFX and 100 music

Low-key the music on Chapter 14 I like more than anything from 2016 and Eternal

Same for Chapter 22 with Infernal Chasm

[velvet elbow]

I still need time to form an opinion on it (mb wrong reply)

And idk why I want the legionary skin the Gold skin is just better

The brown is just a terrible accent

He looks like one of those “high quality chocolate” ads

Or am I coping rn

[void pollen]

Just noticed that in dragon levels any Sentinels you fly over will cheer for you which is honestly kinda adorable

[velvet elbow]

You got a video of that I wanna see

[wheat sigil]

oh dang, that suucks

[unkempt umbra]

Have you checked for any upscaling settings? Turn off resolution scaling and use TAA. Seems pretty sharp for me using those settings.

[void pollen]

yeah 1 sec excuse the 640p series s gameplay lmao

[velvet elbow]

My brother in Christ, I own the equivalent of a 1030 you are fine

And somehow it’s labeled as “the best intigrated graphics cpu ever”

I play with 780p

[void pollen]

hold on check dm

sent it

[delicate stirrup]

Horse Pinkies are cool

If this game had SnapMap I would've made a sequel to Stinky Pinkies Attack! featuring them.

[acoustic plover]

I wanted to ride a pinky

[zealous cloud]

i just launched the game and it launches normally shows me like all the warnings and stuff and now im in a frozen loading screen, i havent had this hapen before what da hell am i supposed to do now

pc on the xbox app

[honest vortex]

There's a common bug I get where I'm in slow mo for a long time even during glory kill animations

Like much longer slow mos than what's intended, and the slow mo effect will last even when I am not even doing melee or parries

As much as I love the game. Replaying the game is making me realize more and more how buggy the game is 😭

Basically anything regarding melees and the shield have a lot of jank

[honest vortex]

I don't think it's AS buggy as Eternal, but still fairly to pretty buggy game.

[raven warren]

In the maps with the dragon do I need to kill all ships to earn all gold?

[zealous cloud]

who woulda thunk, the solution was to turn my pc off and on again!

[blissful jay]

hey if any one is able too can someone help me find my save game data i logged on and and it was completely gone all 22hrs i was at the final level

[zealous cloud]

where do you have the game, on steam?

[blissful jay]

pc game pass

but my friend has it on steam and it did the same thing

[ocean merlin]

Has anyone else found this bug in chapter 8 where you fall through the floor into water and into an infinite loop of weirdo bubble sounds and falling into the abyss

I’m on Xbox and I’ve used the weapon wheel bug a lot to skip doors but this is just weird

[zealous cloud]

i needed to reinstall the game at launch and backed up my game saves, the save location is in C:\Users\yourusername\Saved Games\id Software

it should have a doom dark ages folder and i think if im correct everything in that would be the save?

[blissful jay]

i tried it didnt work wasnt able to get the files back to the game

[zealous cloud]

then i dont know im sorry :/

[blissful jay]

its all good was worth a shot ig

thats for the help anyways

thanks*

[ocean merlin]

Update I found a castle under the map, Is it another level?

[tame shale]

Anyone else experience these situations?

After finishing a chapter, when you click to start the next one, the one that has been completed restarts. This event has happened twice in my Pandemonium Campaign.

During rare occurrences, shield block does not trigger when clicked. I am not certain how to fix.

If you walk onto the head of pinky once its rider has been been removed and then the pinky attacks, you get killed even without the 5HP warning system triggering

[gusty raft]

does anyone know how to fix doom dark ages being blurry on xbox series s

[ocean merlin]

Uninstall reninstall

[mild loom]

make sure your xbox is rendering at native res and pray to god

[languid trout]

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

When you accidentally end a mission with six gold missing....

[uneven dragon]

me with siege part 1 </3

[sterile saffron]

I ended a level yesterday missing quite literally a single piece of gold🥀

[honest vortex]

Any 2016 fans now find 2016 kinda boring and unplayable after playing Dark Ages?

[honest vortex]

I tried playing 2016 today after playing Dark Ages, and wow I dislike 2016 now lol

[trail zephyr]

That was me after even eternal which may be controversial

[honest vortex]

I'm asking about just Dark Ages, since a lot of people had that happen with Eternal

[trail zephyr]

Meh, same case with DA I guess

2016 still good in its own right though of course

[honest vortex]

Funny enough Eternal made me like 2016 more. Because playing 2016 with quick swap combos was awesome.

But Dark Ages made 2016 lame for me lol

Dark Ages made BOTH Eternal and 2016 lame to me

[trail zephyr]

Haha yeah I feel that

I'll always like eternal, I feel dark ages and eternal are quite tied for me

[honest vortex]

My ranking for the new games go:

Dark Ages > 2016 > Eternal.

But Dark Ages is currently the ONLY one I still like lmao

[obsidian hamlet]

Hey, im new to pc gaming and discord so im sorry if this isnt the right place but I have a code for the verdant skin that I will never use hopefully one of you will make use of it. GKN9-MM4P-K9RY-64NB-A7XC

[thin zinc]

i dont know if they hotfixed the soundtrack, but i just played the cosmic realm and the music was awesome, the hard metal part of those tracks was playing at the right time, etc. first time i played that it felt off and like it was dumbed down the entire time.... hmmm

[split gate]

Woah we need a check on this, I’ll test it out too

[thin zinc]

like when maximillian played the other day he was saying WHERE IS THE MUSIC in those parts

it's totally different now i swear....... something is changed.

[mild loom]

peak

[thin zinc]

im at eternal - dark ages - 2016. i played like half of 2016 in the last few days and while it's still great, it doesn't come close to matching the speed and fun of the other 2 games for me

i do love the humor of it though

[thin zinc]

i posted a video in the #videos channel

[split gate]

Thanks chief

[split gate]

Can I ask what your music settings are?

[thin zinc]

i put music on 100 and turned sound effects down to 75

[grave cave]

gonna do that. thanku

[thin zinc]

but yeah i dunno, i may be imaging it, but sounds way better implemented to me

[split gate]

I did the same but sfx is 60

[thin zinc]

and it was like this through the entire cosmic realm section

[split gate]

If the mixing is fixed, we are so fucking back folks

[thin zinc]

the soundtrack is awesome i think, it was just implemented badly. parts dont play when they should

i think it's overall better than the ancient gods soundtrack

[split gate]

I definitely feel that way too, some parts are too quiet

[split gate]

I agree with this 🙌

[languid rose]

doom

[thin zinc]

DOOM

[languid rose]

tda is fire

[split gate]

Doom the Doom Ages

[languid rose]

dorky ages

[split gate]

Doom: One of the Ages

[languid rose]

Doom the mood ages

[teal spire]

doom: the third divisive third one

[short plinth]

They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you. You will be worse. Rip and tear, until it is done.

[hard thistle]

how long before eternal was the dark ages? Cause how the fuck are king novik and valen still alive

I thought it was quite a long time before

[short plinth]

TDA is a prequel to 2016

takes place between Doom 64 and Doom 2016

[split gate]

Ah yes, I know where this is from

[teal spire]

civvie my beloved

[teal spire]

of which im playing through both

[ripe sky]

hey guys

[sand bane]

Man dark ages is so cool, I really want to support the devs but I refuse to entertain the $120 aud price tag. I really hope they put the game on sale soon so i can support it instead of playing on game pass

[placid saffron]

You basically don't support the devs when buying a copy, apart from the wage it basically all goes to the shareowners

[sand bane]

Yeah thats true, I want ID software to get my money not bethesda

[placid saffron]

Microsoft*

[sand bane]

thats right, microsoft now

[placid saffron]

Unless you find a way to donate to the people you basically can't give them money

[sand bane]

AAA gaming is so shit right now, wish massive corporations didn't own everything

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-cyberpunk-keanu-reeves-gif-25309386

[placid saffron]

That's capitalism for ya, only way to be against the overcorporatization is to be against capitalism itself

[placid saffron]

But also luckily, AA and indie games more then rival the AAA studios so it's easy to ignore them

[river fern]

Buy the games you really want to play

[sand bane]

Yeah atleast the indi scene is very healthy right now

[hard thistle]

wish I could, but psn ain't selling it 🥀

[sand bane]

Lucky for me on PC, there are other, grey areas, to obtaining games I really want to play

[placid saffron]

But very preferably not from big studios, especially american ones rn

[river fern]

We all should collectively forget about GTA 6 in the next few years

[placid saffron]

It'll take another year for it to release on PC anyways

And like, idk but rockstar doesn't even make such great games

They have a lot of detail right, but that's it

[sand bane]

I mean GTA V was pretty good in my opinion, but its really about what you like i guess

[lapis vapor]

hey who needs a doom skin ?

for dark ages

[river fern]

I only bought GTA 5 like 8 years after it released on a decent discount, and when I played it right after finishing GTA 4... I didn't feel like I missed out on anything significant

[sand bane]

I mean fair enough, tbh I still havn't played through the whole gta 5 campagin

[placid saffron]

It was okay. Story was ok, gameplay was a tad boring, missions too constrictive for the type of game it is

[sand bane]

My adhd brain can only play a rockstar open world for so long, but theres definently a market for it

[placid saffron]

Online is too bloated with powercreep and it's as fun as your friends make it, which isn't unique to gta at all

[river fern]

I want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and I'm not even kidding

.jpg

[placid saffron]

Except the graphics aren't worse

[sand bane]

Valve games are pretty good in those regards, valve employees get paid more on average than big tech giant employees, i.e microsoft

[placid saffron]

Most indie games look better then gta5 because realistic fidelity just ages terribly

[placid saffron]

Valve's still horrific because they directly adorse gambling and speculative markets

[river fern]

Graphics™ for the sake of Graphics™ is exactly the reason why the market is flooded with unoptimized unreal engine games

[sand bane]

Well its the lesser of evils in my opinion, coming from somone that was adicted to gambling on csgo at the age of 13

[sand bane]

Couldnt agree more, not everything is graphics. I happily play games from 20 years ago with janky looking graphics

[placid saffron]

Yeah, no ethic consumption under capitalism after all

Still important to let people know that no, the "good" company is still a bastard

[sand bane]

Yeah at the end of the day a company is there to make money, they really couldn't care less about anything else

[hard thistle]

but can it run crysis tho

[placid saffron]

Which is the rot cause of all the issues and contradictions

[sand bane]

yep. Its annoying because capitalism is far from perfect, but its the best system we have.

[hard thistle]

no it's not

[placid saffron]

Yeah no it's not even

[uneven dragon]

speaking of graphics™️ was anyone else amazed by the rain in TDA

[sand bane]

well idk, communism and Marxism has been proven to not work throughout history. I dont really know of anything better. The root cause really is greed and corruption

[hard thistle]

yes it is

[placid saffron]

The other systems just get destroyed before they can do shit by capitalism

[hard thistle]

and why do they get destroyed?

[sand bane]

courruption and greed

[placid saffron]

I mean, the soviets didn't have a socialist economy at all

[hard thistle]

no not really

[sand bane]

I do really like the graphics of TDA, nothing absolutly out of this world though

[hard thistle]

which also exists in capitalism

[placid saffron]

It was a centralized planned economy owned by a state that wasnt accountable to it's people, the economy was in no way socially owned

[sand bane]

which is why its not perfect. captislisim is still shit, its just less shit than communism, in my very broad opinion.

[mild loom]

holy shit did they improve the audio mixing?

the music sounds incredible now

[river fern]

Dafuq

[hard thistle]

every system is shit, we just gotta pick the least shit one

[uneven dragon]

idkk usually i dont play like games with modern graphics
so like the rain landing on the toys you pick up and it looking so realistic and stuff was just crazy to me

[river fern]

They mastered it properly this time around?

[hard thistle]

wdym?

[mild loom]

the audio system was weird when incorporating music

[hard thistle]

idk bro after arkham knight in like 2015 no games has come near the rain that it had

[placid saffron]

Slovenia had an a more decentralized economy where the workers in the factories actually owned their labour and slight influence in politics, it was really successful untill it was forcibly converted to capitalism when yugoslavia fell

[lone scarab]

hey uhh gonna buy this when I get the money, but kinda unsure about it

[hard thistle]

YUGO MENTION 💯💯🔥🔥

[lone scarab]

apparently there's no summoner or flying-type enemies (besides spaghetti Cacos instead of the more common meatball)

[mild loom]

I feel like they improved on the audio balancing, the music feels much more noticeable now

[sand bane]

I would just play on gamepass or something until it goes on sale

[lone scarab]

no Archviles or Gargoyles...which is weird for a more horde game

i.e. not 10 big enemies, instead 30 small ones

[placid saffron]

We basically barely tried communism, and the most fampus examples aren't even socialist ot "failed" for other reasons

[hard thistle]

And the ||Pizza throwing Baron||

Spaghetti and Pizza

[lone scarab]

yeah seen the barons...if you can call them that

[river fern]

Yo, we're in #the-dark-ages

We gotta move on

[placid saffron]

The dark age of capitali- gets banhammered

[hard thistle]

They're fantastic ngl

[river fern]

lmao

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomed-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-14386385973103722177

[lone scarab]

remind me of Stranger Things with that design

[lone scarab]

not bro posting communism at 3 AM on a Doom server

god I love Discord

[hard thistle]

getting epilepsy from this wtf

It's almost 6 here.
I so tired ..

I just woke up

[lone scarab]

anyhoo tf is up here? are these coming in a later DLC?

[hard thistle]

it's 1250 pm bro

[lone scarab]

not in Cali

[sand bane]

It 9pm here in aus

[hard thistle]

we ain't in Cali

[hard thistle]

I'm sure we'll get something or other idk

[lone scarab]

your girl's in Cali ask me how I know

[mild loom]

this is the dark ages channel

[hard thistle]

if my girl in cali she ain't my girl no mo she belongs to the streets

[sand bane]

. moved on now

[hard thistle]

Banger ass video

Bleh, I got today off so now I get to start working on my Dark Ages run early.

I have a chance of beating the UN Melee only run.

I might physically cry if I make it

[lone scarab]

is there another enemy that summons shit?

[hard thistle]

no

[sand bane]

shit how long would a dark ages run take?

that would take a minute aye

[hard thistle]

couple of minutes yeah

[sand bane]

haha damn already got speedrunning tech

[lone scarab]

also why no Gargoyles when that is the critter that came from the Sentinel dimension

that's like having Earth without the shotgun dudes (blaster dudes in later games) tf

[hard thistle]

My first playthrough was 15 hours, not including secrets. Spent another 20 and cleared a 100% run.

But there's about 2 hours of cutscenes and mini cutscenes. So ..

At this point I'm on my I think 6th or 7th playthrough and it doesn't take too long

6th or 7th playthrough is crazy

[sand bane]

Yeah right, mad. Im still on my first playthgouh 100% everything lol

been playing since day 1 as well, but ive been busy i guess

[hard thistle]

I waited 5 years for this game.

I'm gonna get my money's worth lmfao.

[hard thistle]

I got the game a few days early from the pre-order or whatever it was. Which definitely helped.

Just about 100 hours played now.

Jesus, how is that possible

u unemployed?

[sand bane]

Thats some crazy work haha, wish i had that sort of time

[hard thistle]

Nah lmao.
I work from home though.

Which helps.

damn employed an still 100 hours in a week

that's impressive ngl

Appreciated lol.
I've always been mildly obsessed over doom games. My first was Doom 3 when I was younger, it had just came out and I had the like Game informer Walkthrough Manual thing or whatever it was with all the maps and enemies and stuff.

Wanted to speed run that game so bad..
(But I was a bit young to understand anything about speedrunning. So it was probably a 100 hour run alone)

[bright ridge]

Bro pandemonium is kicking me in the teeth atm 😭

Already lost a campaign

[hard thistle]

#screenshots found the one online

[hard thistle]

How far did you get??

[sand bane]

Damn and I thought I was a doom fan, I just play it sometimes when I have a minute after work and gym

[bright ridge]

Got up to siege part 1. It’s those tanks that get me. I always forget they exist and get sniped

[hard thistle]

Yeah, can be annoying.
I always go deal with them first rbh

[burnt moss]

someone made a doom the dark ages mod in bonelab vr and omg its peak

[steady fog]

okay the only thing i dont like about dark ages is how so many skins are locked behind massive paywalls or platform walls or even region walls like what if i wanna be pretty but donr want to spend stupid amounts of money for a pc and an xbox controller and a pizza in a country im not in like HUH???

[hard thistle]

I got a weird youtube question for everyone.

I'm breaking up my Ultra Nightmare Melee only run into seperate chapters so I can just do it over the week but it isn't getting views; Should I do it all in one video?

I feel like if a bigger youtuber did the run people would eat that shit up lmfao.

[hard thistle]

Okay literally though. The game only has 3 Weapon skins and 2 Slayer skins.

That is pretty jank

[steady fog]

i would say maybe two parts?

[steady fog]

like im on playstation and in australia, so three of the skins are literally a waste of money one is unobtainable and most of the others are just really obscure

like legionary costs like $1000 or smth and has no other way of getting it, ranger is from a pizza place in america, verdant needs a pc, and the red one needs the xbox controller like dude thats not okay, i understand having the bethesda email one and a pre order one and a premium edition one that’s standard for most games but A GOD DAMN PIZZA?!?

[sand bane]

tbh I could care less about skins, defaults work for me

[hard thistle]

Ohhh I didn't realize Verdant wasn't on console, and the one is Xbox Controller only. Didn't even occur to me.

[ocean merlin]

Why are there so many random holes where you can fall through the map with

[hard thistle]

It's just incentive to work for stuff though imo.
It's like, the only 2 skins in the game are the ones no one is gonna get, or everyone is gonna use sliders to cheat.

[steady fog]

yeah it really sucks, verdant needs the nvidia app which is only on computer

[pseudo lichen]

Guys anyone played this on their handheld?

[sand bane]

yeah I like earning the skins

[hard thistle]

I'll get you a code. I haven't set my stuff up but someone else already dropped the skin for me.

[sand bane]

I haven't but Ive heard it works pretty well on steam deck

[steady fog]

my friend is doing it for me tomorrow but thank you so much for offering

[pseudo lichen]

I saw some videos where it struggled tho and it's also not verified

[hard thistle]

Oh alright, no problem at all.
Also the "Butcher" skin I believe you can get on your phone or something if you haven't already.

[steady fog]

i have and i mained it for the campaign, i just wish there weren’t any paywalled ones especially not when they’re so specific or expensive

[steady fog]

thats also why i played eternal so much after i beat everything, to collect random skins and obscure achievements

[sand bane]

oh damn. I mean I haven't really looked into it too deep so dont take my word

[neon perch]

I like how the gold skins in this game don't look like they're made out of cheese like in Eternal.

Probably took a page from that one Eternal mod.

I also appreciate items in the world having an actual texture with properties like reflections and highlights instead of static models with flat lighting like 2016/Eternal.

[hard thistle]

same. A doom fan loves hard. we wanna collect. so give us stuff to collect

I'm scared the event system will be replaced by paid packs

[steady fog]

ID software loves us too much to do that…. right??

[steady fog]

like in eternal the only things i didn’t get were multiplayer or ultra nightmare things

[hard thistle]

they have to lol

[hard thistle]

Same.
I had the triumphant podium or whatever on Xbox, but on PC I haven't bothered going for it.. which sucks

[steady fog]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-no-darth-vader-yell-noooooo-gif-5858146

[steady fog]

i wanted the gold maykr slayer so badly, in my opinion though phobos looked better than gold slayer

[hard thistle]

Wait I don't see anyone else posting Melee only content. I was gonna peek at other peoples strats....

Am I the first? (For ultra-nightmare)

There's some people doing melee only but eating extra lives like candy in their runs.

imma go continue the fun. New motivation for worlds first ig

[last radish]

£200+ down the drain cuz i have a shitty gpu and i have no money fuck you all ima fucking kill myself

[short plinth]

ITS TIME NOW

[hard thistle]

melee only shouldn't be bad if you just crank the dammich to 1000

you still need to wait to replenish each melee charge... again... and again.. and again...

[hard thistle]

The goal is 75% damage, Ultra-Nightmare Melee only.

So... you do 75% damage to the demons?

[plain iron]

Why'd you get the game if you don't even have the hardware 💀

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-kurt-angle-100-yard-stare-what-are-you-serious-gif-4081464694509837388

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-gold-thumbs-up-doom-slayer-gif-8707887579565707887

[thorny rose]

I'm having a problem with the From Beyond level

[hard thistle]

What's going on?

[thorny rose]

I can't access the final tentacle

[hard thistle]

What do you mean you can't access it?
Is the path blocked, or is it not letting you lock on>

[thorny rose]

There is no way point to it

Cause Normally, there would be a way point

Something is wrong

[mystic patrol]

Sounds like a you problem

[hard thistle]

I noticed waypoints have been kinda broken on that mission since patch. I know this doesn't help, but watch someone play through the level on youtube and follow where they go,

I flew around for a good second trying to remember without the waypoints lol.

[thorny rose]

I already did that

[hard thistle]

dang

[plain iron]

Oh shit Romero is gonna play TDA

[wild grove]

Holy Dreadmace sucks

One hit Andy and that's it. Actual gimmick weapon

[deep skiff]

So true

[royal shale]

Like how if you have the classic doom face enabled in the health bar, it turns into a zombie face on that level(s).

[arctic dirge]

Yo so I thought about trying to beat Doom TDA by only jumping but I don't think it's actually possible after all

[steady fog]

it also happens with tge normal one but its barely noticeable and not as ✨pretty✨

[hard thistle]

Spoiler chat or || on both sides of the message.

[hard thistle]

Oooo, I might take a look at that after the UN Melee run.

Any leads so far? My worry is the super flat arenas like most bosses.

[errant pagoda]

haven't tried yet, is there a way to rocket or grenade jump maybe?

[arctic dirge]

So obviously it's impossible on the Atlan & Serrat missions. Certain boss fights are impossible as well but you might be able to surf up the wall and then land

So it's possible on most missions but once you get to certain boss fights, no dice

[arctic dirge]

If I allowed rocket/grenade jumping in my run I'd have to be careful not to harm any of the demons

[errant pagoda]

true...

[hard thistle]

Hmm.
We could always just exclude them from the run for sure. On the Melee only run I'm doing Serrat and Atlan are obvciously excluded, but runes are included. Maybe the goal is actually a "No Weapon run", so fall damage and parry (First rune) only?

[arctic dirge]

Oh wow okay a no weapon run would actually be more entertaining and more realistic

[hard thistle]

That doesn't feel like my next Ultra-Nightmare challenge run..

I don't think I got that in me lmfao. But Nightmare for sure. I'm in. You in?

[thorny rose]

Is anyone having a problem with From Beyond?

I'm not able to access the last tentacle

[errant pagoda]

what are your plans for chapter 14 when you are supposed to use that specific weapon?

[thorny rose]

There is not way point on it

[hard thistle]

I'm there right now, just before that point.
My goal is to jump off the bridge next to the fire wall behind the horde.

There's a glitch that respawns you on the other side of it, so you can continue running the level as normal.

[arctic dirge]

Nightmare I'd be down to try that for certain hahah. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out

[errant pagoda]

hmm, that's one way
Do you plan to revisit it later on a nightmare run just to see if it's possible to beat it normally?

[hard thistle]

I do.
I know people have done it without that specific weapon, but it's too much to risk melee only. I've never tried it before but the whole Ultra-Nightmare run is banking on that fight not going wrong tbh

[errant pagoda]

yeah, I imagined that being the bottleneck

[thorny rose]

Something is wrong in chapter 13

[arctic dirge]

Oh also people have beaten doom eternal without firing a single bullet. If that was the case in TDA, the shield could be included BUT that might be too crutch idk

[flint fossil]

I just have finished Dark Ages..now I want more XD

[hard thistle]

Welcome to the club of "Now we wait patiently for Mr. Hugo boss man to drop Master Levels or DLC"

[short plinth]

This final boss fight is fucked

[half spindle]

Bro, you are just:

[hard thistle]

Literally.
I think the doom eternal model looks fuckin hilarious lol.

[thorny rose]

Finally completed chapter 13

[half spindle]

Some mfs wake up and be like:

[hard thistle]

Goooood shit

[hard thistle]

Ohhhh true, next pfp?

[thorny rose]

It was a pain to complete cause there was a glitch stopping me from progressing

[half spindle]

Yours is great. Leave it like that for a bit.

[hard thistle]

I gotta, changed the Youtube pfp over too

[short plinth]

I wake up sometimes, and feel like because people ignore my existence

[hard thistle]

rip
(and tear)

[half spindle]

Most guys choose one of this four personalities:

And never change themselves again.

[hexed copper]

Definitely the first one

[hard thistle]

Alright now I'm going back to my Melee only UN run.

I was uploading chapters like.. 9-12 and that took a minute

[short plinth]

Imma keep it

[half spindle]

Today I feel like

[short plinth]

sometimes, I wanna watch the world burn

[loud gulch]

yow, what level do you guys think has the most replayability?

[half spindle]

All.

[terse hollow]

Only half of it

[short plinth]

Yes

[half spindle]

Yes

[short plinth]

I love the cosmic realm so much

[half spindle]

Yeah, it’s great, I love all levels though.

[short plinth]

How Id was able to make this game in 3 years

[half spindle]

But cosmic is really so mysterious and eerie.

[short plinth]

The one thing we didn't get in tda

[hard thistle]

That's it
slaps hands on table

Add an invulnerability slider

(Hugo probably. idk)

[half spindle]

What about

[short plinth]

That's what leaders are for

[loud gulch]

i mean like the level with the most enemies to mess around with

[hard thistle]

Dark Ages blows ass.

I don't have a slider that manages my other sliders.

[half spindle]

That’s different.

[short plinth]

Siege part 1 was fantastic

[loud gulch]

okayy thanks

[half spindle]

Level 20 as well.

[short plinth]

Chapter 15 as well

[hard thistle]

Omg.
Yuh

Honestly chapter 2-22 is amazing.

[half spindle]

Open cosmic world level.

[half spindle]

1 is like a prologue.

[short plinth]

The first 4 levels are tutorial

[errant pagoda]

Chapter 16

[hard thistle]

It is.
It was bad ass for the first playthrough, but now it's an obstacle between me and the saw.

It's like seeing the intro cutscenes in eternal 10,000 times. Not any less cool, I'm just ready to move on

[half spindle]

Just put game speed on 120% (150 )

[short plinth]

An eternal UNM player's worst ptsd moment

"All the evil that hell can conjure..."

[hard thistle]

I strictly play 110-120
(I'll do 150 when I'm feeling a bit autistic, but not always)

[half spindle]

So true.

[errant pagoda]

Chapter 18 plays nice too, I know it inside out, huehue

[hard thistle]

Literally..

[half spindle]

No regular speed?

Too slow my guess.

[hard thistle]

My first playthrough I did regular up to like . Half way I think.

I wanted a little more unf though, because I felt like I could make combos more fluid. Just came to prefer it now

[short plinth]

I have to compensate for my old tech by doing 150% Game Speed while streaming

Obs pulls performance away from TDA

[hard thistle]

It really does. I've been using it to record my videos on TDA and it definitely has caused a little jank here and there.

I know they'll polish that up soon enough

[short plinth]

Should have optimized the game for pc instead of catering to console players

Eternal was well optimized in that regard

[hard thistle]

Tbf I think they had a smoother launch than most games these days, so I can't complain too much.
Although I never had any of the crazy stuff some people had happen

[short plinth]

2016 can even play on a gtx 780

Now, with baked in ray tracing, performance tweaks for pc needs to be priority for Hugo and marty

[hard thistle]

but PC at least has extra candy here and there if you check nexus mods and like customization.

[short plinth]

Also, I hope Hugo and Marty remove denuvo from TDA

[hard thistle]

Also also shout out to the extremely talented team at ID in general.
I realize I usually comment about those two, but it takes a village.

Party poppers for ID Software.

🎉

[short plinth]

Removing denuvo would help a lot of pc players out

[charred oasis]

Ok yall I have a question, we all know that the dreadmace does the most single hit damage in the game (for melee weapons) but what melee weapon does the most damage with a full combo? Like does w hits with the flail do more than the mace or gauntlet, etc.

[short plinth]

UHHHH I JUST HAD ||PRINCE AHZRAK|| JUST STAY STATIONARY IN || PHASE 4 ||

[hard thistle]

Imo probably the Gauntlet

[arctic dirge]

Okay just did the first mission by only jumping & parrying

Except for the turret segment at the end

God that was tedious

[charred oasis]

You think the gauntlet does more damage than the flail?

[hard thistle]

Considering the extra charge, damage bonus on kick & bonus damage from shock multiplier -
but I could obviously be wrong (I don't have access to the numbers)

I would pick the flail if I was worried about their armor, and my armor.

But I would probably more often just choose the Gauntlet

[hardy lantern]

i hate cacodemons so much
i swear to god nothing gets me killed as much as those fuckers

[charred oasis]

Hm ok, thx for the input. I’m gonna do some testing rn, any suggestions on where to test? I was thinking the second to the last boss since there is only one of him and I’ll do it when he staggers to get the best odds

[opaque crow]

Did the dark ages fix the berserker trophy

[hard thistle]

Yeah np at all.
That's a good question, otherwise default damage you could kinda sorta rush to a Cyberdemon and just do a hit count (See which one takes more ig?)

[charred oasis]

I’m gonna do it on nightmare difficulty (default slider settings and all that) cause idk why but I’m just curious. And I also feel like canonically the gauntlet might be the strongest too, because yes in the codex it says the mace is infinitely dense, but the slayer can pick it up, and the gauntlet supposedly enhances his hand to hand power so we will see

I’ll test in a bit then get back to you

[short plinth]

Chapter 22 everyone

[hard thistle]

Yeah lemme know what you find for sure

[loud gulch]

you can get 6 charges with the gauntlet alone from any super heavy if you do it correctly (max upgrades)

[hard thistle]

I guess the question also is, are we talking Damage, or DPS?

Gauntlet wins all of that imo

[loud gulch]

flail is really good for getting ammo which is pretty scarce in this game tho, but in terms of reliability the gauntlet carries. usually because we have the combat shotgun and we also get alotta ammo

[charred oasis]

Yeah idk I see everyone talking up the dreadmace and flail but I feel like the gauntlet has the potential to be the most powerful

[loud gulch]

gauntlet is an all rounder
flail is an armor based melee
the mace however is basically crucible 2.0

[loud gulch]

potential? no, it IS the most powerful. i can literally one cycle an agaddon hunter with only the maxed out gauntlet + parries

it gives out like 6 charges for free, they hand the charges out as generous as they did with the hammer back in dlc 2 before the hammer patch

imo dreadmaces and flails are very situational.

[half spindle]

Nah, they are powerful as well.

Each weapon is for different playstyles.

Dreadmace is literally melee bfg that recharges.

Flail is middle ground between fast and strong.

It gives lots of armor and has good damage.

Gauntlet is great for combos.

[loud gulch]

yeah, thats exactly why i said it was my opinion on them. I odnt like the mace because it gives you a free kill + all ammo for free (i dont like being handed out things easily), and the flail is decent but not on par with the gauntlet

[half spindle]

But they are not situational

[loud gulch]

which one?

[half spindle]

Both.