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im finishing my 100 on nightmare before panda mode
If I completed it the first time on UV should my next run be pandemonium or would that be suicidal
id play nightmare first probaly but tbh nightmare isnt the worst
its when you mess with slider things get a lil wacky
I'd try nightmare
I wish i could get the dark ages 😔
Cause I beat uv and nightmare and I still can't beat pandemonium
What parry window do you guys use
Dusk
I set mine to 40% because I felt like that would be more like harder difficulties but apparently UV and above are all 60%
I believe heavily that this song is on par with Mick Gordon's best work:
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So what's the consensus on playing UN modified? I kept resources low and made the damage for both slayer and enemies 75%. Kept parry window large cuz sometimes it feels like inputs don't fucking work and I don't wanna get screwed by a glitch or my mouse acting up
so siege part 1 yas the slayer toy?it says i already have both,yet i don't have the slayers toy lmao
Legit reminds me of Flesh and Metal from 2016 mixed with Classic DOOM music
this or what lies below
? 50%
Also anyone notice the first minute or so sounds like Bungie's Halo game stuff?
Like Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST, Reach etc
Transitioning from Martin O'Donnell and Michael Salvatori type shit into Mick Gordon mixed with Bobby Prince a minute and a half later is crazy work.
oh
i remember finding one really low beneath the map but it didnt end up having one of the purple things
so idk lmao but thanks
This one too IMO:
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Hard agree
The chugging at 2:20 is top tier
graphics could be darker more scary and souls like
The 2nd half does that quite well.
What are you waffling about
which chapter?
Cosmic Realm stuff as well as the Hell missions, especially Chapter 22.
Chapter 20-21 as well
game only has 22 chapers and you are saying it becomes better in the last 2? 🤡
currently in the 6th chapter
The soundtrack at its peaks feels like if Mick Gordon combined with Bobby Prince.
Cosmic Realm is like 4-5 chapters, and there's various Hell missions
The ocean tide ship missions in the second half as well
okay but they look more scifi than dark age type
because Doom is sci fi
I guess.
The first half of Dark Ages is more Sci Fi. Second half of Dark Ages is more dark fantasy and Eldritch horror style
soooo... are the extra lives useless or is this a known bug? whenever I die, I just... die, no choice to respawn except at the checkpoint
are they for very specific usecases or something?
like bosses or the like?
does anyone know how to fix the blackscreen launch bug?
whenever I open the game it does all the stuff for ID Software and whatever but then the screen freezes with the loading icon in the corener with the main menu music playing
have you tried updating your graphics drivers?
Never had a problem with the lives.
It's just you can only carry 3 maximum
yep
seems like those cause a lot of issues for people
Yes i know the fix i wish the mods would pin my comment
I know that, yeah, and I've been at the cap since the start
Yeah I don't know then.
Never heard of this bug, but I hope they fix it, or something fixes it
weird, am I missing a very specific input maybe to use them?
is there a strategy to kill the pinkies easily without the riders? they have unparryable attacks without em and are for me a run ender for UN
I've watched 3 videos and none of them helped
yes are you on xbox gamepass?
yep
lmk if my method works.. let me write it
cool cool thanks 🙏
chainsaw shield, and then super shotty
yeah i dont have the super shotgun yet
or the chainsaw
damn
remember, ultra nightmare
so i gotta restart and deal with these fuckass pinkies every time
So a lot of people can’t launch the game or it keeps crashing for them. On steam there is a fix where you add a command to the launching option.
If you are playing from xbox gamepass and upon launching the game, if you only hear the game sound but cant see the game you will need to change doom dark ages settings from nvidia control panel.
Go to nvidia control panel > manage 3d settings.
Select Program settings
My settings which fixed the bug:
Image scaling: on
Max frame rate: Off
Monitor Technology: G-Sync Compatible
Power management mode: Max performance
Preferred Refresh rate: highest
Vertical Sync: Use the 3D application setting
This should fix the error. If it doesn’t work, try to mess with other related settings. I hope this helps!
its just the pinkies without their riders that im having trouble with
Ground Fissure vs Heaven Splitter? Thoughts, concerns, irritations? Kinda like GF for the armor drops
I usually just shoot them
Heaven Splitter for mass stun
Am I the only one who straight up never uses the plasma gun(s)? I dont see a use if I can just shield throw the plasma shield units. I'm also at chapter 17/22
They look and sound cool and make nasty demons sparkly
yes
How big was the ravager nerf?
anyone getting a bug with the mission forsaken plains where the mission stops showing a quest and soft locks you do to no objective?
Try switching to plasma exclusively.
Then you'll be sorry (or not)
Look maw, I'm grinding currency in Doom!
it didnt happen the first time i played through the game, but now that in replaying it after the update it happened
Ssg, ravager, explosives
Oh for level one, just stay away and use the shredder
Meleeing them is death now that their damage has been buffed
Heavan splitter is definetly the best, but I used ground splitter for azhrek in my pandemonium and un run just for the armor
how do i get to the thing that starts a combat challenge on city of ry'uul chapter 15, its floating in the sky with no way to get to it im so confused
weird, just now I finally DID get to use a life sigil
so do they only work if you die to bosses or something?
dunno why they're so common if they're that situational
From where you land after flying up near that door, turn right and drop down to some gold. There's a launcher thing there
uhh
idk if we're talking abt the same one
I think we are
theres no door where im at, its open space
They work whenever you die no matter what, it let's you choose to either use a life sigil or load from the last save
After you do the puzzle to throw the saw inside that machine to turn on the man-cannon, turn right, you kill a mancubus, climb that wall and go straight to the edge. Fall of to a trail of gold leading to a shield fly thingy that send you to the gore nest
it doesn't though, the only time I've seen the question pop up is when dying to a boss, any other scenario just lets me respawn from a checkpoint
It does though lol. I've had to use them multiple times outside of boss fights
check #screenshots
Maybe its a difficulty setting or something?
Turn around
weird, since the screen I got just now was vastly different from the one I normally get when I die, which has no option to use a life sigil
Use the thing that flings you up one level
oh alr
I think it's buggy, sometimes it doesn't work
that was the first thing I checked, yeah, but there doesn't seem to be anything about them in there
glad to see I'm not the only one with this bug then
Yeah thats weird. I know they should work outside of boss fights, i havent played much since the patch though so maybe it got bugged or changed even
It's been bugged since advance access
Huh, i guess I just got lucky lol. Only used one 3 or 4 times but they were all outside of bossfights
Sometimes it prompts me but if I choose checkpoint a couple times it stops asking and the life sigils are gone
Every bossfight seemed a little easy... either in the atlan or get plenty of parrys
Still fun to me though
The bosses are pretty easy, just hold down shoot and parry the same pattern over and over
UV enhanced ahzrak was pretty hard
imagine nightmare
Bosses are esentially a parry test
I guess it depends per person, I thought it was pretty easy
Parry slop /s
i think the game could use a movement buff
i get what they're going for but strafing sucks
Question, is there any difference between Medium and High Settings on PC?
Turn the speed up
I don't like that slop is the new 'i don't like this so that means it's bad'
I personally love slop and hate to see the word tarnished 😔
can you turn speed up for just you?
Yeah he was definitely a bit harder first go around. || I kinda wish they had him keep the wraith soul until the last fight though, usually the last fight of the game is the hardest 😂||
Yeah but there's another aspect to the last fight that makes it different and fun
final ahzrak was underwhelming asf
Lol! I know right
hopefully they come out with another unicorn skin
||Yeah but it wasn't a really challenging one at all, if they both actually attacked at the same time it would be but one just sits back shielded while the other attacks||
||yeah, it seemed like they took turns on the bench, it broke the immersion that I'm fighting two powerful beings||
how to add spoilers to messages?
add || to both ends
who to trust
me
Both work
they both work you donut
ok
I didn't know that, thanks.
||i am actually so dissapointed by the final boss. Horrible game design, and it’s EXTREMELY underwhelming after fighting kreed makyr, old one, and enhanced ahzrak in a cinematic boss rush.||
imagine
||pretty lame, but maybe master levels will be a thing that can address that?||
I think theyll make up with it in the dlc but still
the only thing spoiled here is your brain matter after flashbanging yourself with your profile color so many times
it's cause they oversimplified the gameplay a lot
that has nothing to do with what i said
be honest, did it blind you
you said ||horrible game design||
no, i use light mode, i dwell in the flames
oh brother you freak
FOR THE FINAL BOSS NOT THE WHOLE GAME JUST LEARN HOW TO READ
@remote kayak hi, are you playing on game pass?
yeah im on mobile so there is no dark mode
do you ever get scared to just play the game 🙏
||the final boss should represent the game, what more could they have done? more attacks, more projectiles? the game is very repetitive unless you play with sliders||
chat this mf wildin
it's true lol
no
i absolutely loved this game but i do feel like it lacked in the boss designs
well, then say what you didn't like
your statement of “the game gets repetitive without sliders” is incorrect
game is 200% harder out of nowhere
it sometimes does, but just ||tell me what you didn't like about the final boss||
same with last two games, but to be honest 2016’s bosses were really not that bad
it feels like the exact same recycled boss as enhanced ahzrak but without all the cinematic flare that made the first fight so cool
||yeah, meaning repetitive||
None of us are saying the game is bad. The first thing I said when we started the conversation is its still good || were just complaining about the fact that they take turns on the bench in the final fight instead of both attacking at the same time so it made it feel more underwhelming||
that does not mean the whole game is repetetive
this final boss fight is a bitch smh
||my point is that because the gameplay was incredibly simplfied, there's only so much they could introduce for a final boss, except for just flooding the screen with more attacks/projectiles||
||again it would've just been better if somehow ahzrak kept the wraith soul until the final fight, losing it first already made him feel watered down the second fight. But it didnt ruin the game||
make it actually different from the previous fight? change his moveset, add unparriable attacks into his combos, add more bullet hell sections to the fight, there was so much they could have done
||well yeah, that's what I mean, all you could really do is just add more attacks/projectiles to make it more interesting, but they didn't want to probably because it would've been too hard for some people, hence the oversimplification||
im not saying add, im saying change, switch things up so it isnt a recycle of the last boss
||i also think some enemies should've had unparriable attacks||
game got way harder out of no where and un intuitive it is worse now. Flashing purple means STAY AWAY because one hit kills you now. How do I stop them from patching my game? Please leave it alone
Bosses, specifically
BLZBNTAGT00000843?
And not ones that you can stand still and shimmy around
||Whatever those dagger things are that he shoots out||
skill issue git gud
not even being sarcastic lmao
what difficulty u on?
UV and I will not change it
it was perfect, now its terrible
adn why are there balance changes this isint overwatch,
ugh im getting this bug where i cant throw my shield
it was kinda gone off my screen for a minute but i could still parry and now its back and i cant throw it
had that, had to quit and reload
my game loads perfectly fine until it reaches the main menu, then it just freezes on a black screen and I can't click on anything
music is playing as well and i've restarted my pc already
The new patch def made it harder but so far so good
i played on nightmare and it was much easier than eternal I found. then again eternal on nightmare was so fast paced you needed to be on 7 different stimulants just to play.
For me eternal was pretty easy bc I was cracked with the meat hook
Idk I loved the final boss.
Much better than the Icon of Sin
Probably even better than Spider Mastermind
Eternal is easier because of the movement. If you got enemies on multiple sides in this its no good
I agree that Eternal's easy. I find it the easiest one from the new games funny enough.
No idea why a lot of people think it's the hardest
Ahzrak had his shit together
There's a lot of variables that make it the easiest.
One of the biggest things is the ridiculous pinata levels of resource drops and restacking no matter what you do
Also dash spam as well as abusing aerial time made you basically untouchable.
Plus Chaingun energy shield is basically God mode, and enemy damage values are much lower in Eternal compared to Dark Ages and 2016
2016 and Dark Ages feels like it's about strafe skill and fake outs more compared to Eternal
Yeah he even looks cooler aesthetically than the Icon of Sin.
Yeah I said it.
eternal is strafe and dodge like OG doom they mention a lot. But so was 2016 really. Eternal is vertical
Thats cause its just Gary Oldman as Dracula
my game ran fine until the stupid update now it pegs the cpu usage at 80% and its friggen slide show
Anyone having trouble with the Berserker Achevement at all?
is chapter 21 boss the hardest? im tired gang lol
Pretty much yes
which difficulty?
UV
how many hrs it took you?
Who else has noticed that The Old One looks like Cthulhu
im not sure because i left it open a bunch so the hrs are skewed lol
probably like 16ish & on the last lvl now
it definitely got significantly harder after the hotfix
but this is my first doom game im learning :P
Hi, anyone here with a ROG Flow Z13 have issues running the game at certain resolutions? For example, the graphics are corrupted at 1600p, but runs without corruption with FSR framegen on (but the framegen itself doesn't work). It's an odd problem that is hard to describe. Dropping resolution to 1200p works without corruption, but framegen doesn't work. It has the AI 395+ APU.
Which game speed do you guys enjoy
thats great! im 10 hrs in and on 6th chapter only.
about to do the final battle, wish me luck (it seems easy)
I have an Alienware m18r1 laptop with a 7945hx 16 core cpu and the game is throttling my cpu to 80% since the new update
yo same but i have a 4070
and its a lenovo legion
So your cpu spiking too and making it unplayable ?
My game ran like butter and then they dropped the update and it’s broken now
How was the ravager nerf
It’s not too bad I guess. I would like to take advantage of the refresh rate but TAA 90-100 fps is playable. Game is too fun to be pixel peeping!
the damage wasn't changed its just ahzrak and whatever else it stated have damage resistance to it
It was running about 30% cpu usage before the update , the game is a stuttery unplayable mess , something is wrong and its specific to the game , I was getting 120fps with lows at 100 fps before the update , its a slideshow at this point
question
what is a good use for the cycler
I cant play the game anymore I need help
me either they made it way too hard out of nowhere like a bunch of dorks
It used to run flawless and now I cant get past the main menu
ranged fights
what they do?
fully upgrades, it fucks.
mad the game way harder out of nowhere like a bunch of dorks
well yes but what actualy changes?
how hard the game is
this piece of enlightenment was cosmically sensational. thank you.
Harbor of Souls is such a cool level
I love live updates to my single player game that has sliders I could have changed myself if I wanted to do that. Makes so much sense
you can just drop down a difficulty level and itll feel how it did i think
launch nightmare was a joke, this is a good change
no
Has anyone else noticed the huge difference in durability between the normal Titans and the hybrid? Both the cannons on King Novik's Atlan barely leave anything on the Titans, even with armor, and it does almost nothing to the hybrids.
Yeah, this game was piss easy when it came out lmao
I beat a good chunk of the game without dying
I think they should have done it a little more tbh, the parry is still relatively easy on the lowest duration setting
Does Dark Ages have Quad Damage?
Shredder with pincushion is such a life saver early game on UN
I think this game only has berserker
everytime i hit a parry i feel a throb inbetween my legs. Must be my keyboard and mouse's form of controller vibration hahahahdhahdfah
Just beat chapter 18 on nightmare + max speed, my god that nearly drove me crazy
My computer stuttered for a few seconds after I had installed the update. It's the only time it's done it, and it stopped after a while.
It was a bit like a post-update background shader comp on various games. And it's totally gone back to normal after I just let it do its thing for a bit. So maybe other people were seeing the same thing
I get that, but only when it's a successful parry
True, that gives me a hell surge of my own down there if you know what im sayin
I wonder if the new slow motion toggle will make parry in large battles harder
does anyone know why the game says I only have 6900 available VRAM when I have 8000?
Yes but ||it’s a park of this game’s Berserk.||
Mine is constant even after 5 mins of playing
Ayyo cosmic realm is kinda crazy lookin
I’m in there getting screenshots of the place lol
every game do this, showing less vram than what's on the card
I have only seen it with this game though which is why I'm confused
it might be a bit lower than 8000 which is normal but 6900?
idk why it's that low but in most games (not all my bad) it is lower
there is a toggle in settings
Kreed fight was fun
You have to be in the main menu or the option isn't visible
i also have a 8 gb card but mine is changed to 7084
I'm not sure why it's so low it might just be a bug idk
super markus
has anyone had an issue where you cant get past the splash screen? ive been running it fine for a week but today i cant get past the splash screens. Video freezes on the load screen before the main menu. i can still move my mouse around and click on things but the video is frozen completely
Just realized I rarely really play around with this, does charging the shield saw do any extra damage or anything - or is it just "aiming" the shield
You mean with shield throw
Yeah that doesn't do anything
Someone please tell me how his weapon wheel is arranged differently #screenshots message
other things use it too
uh @ someone
why is my game crashing every time i launch siege part 2, game was fine for the entirety of last week or so of me playing it, 30+ hrs
has anyone finished TDA on ultra nightmare with maxed out sliders?
is there a way to decrease parry window past minimum?
hey everyboddy
you are not a fellow doomer pal
What's the best way for the Accelerator mastery challenge? Seems like 1000 is alot and I did the 2nd to last level and only got 300/1000 ;-; this seems to be the hardest ojen
go to the Kar'thul Marshes
and go in an arena that spawns a mancubus leader
clear the arena, put him in a staggered state and shoot away
he will remain forever in the staggered state until you execute him, and it will still count for your damage
oh shit o just fill up the accelerator to and blow away fodder enemies then with it/?
you can fill the accelerator on him too
and use zombies around to refill ammo if needed
its just safer to do this with the arena cleaned up
So how much will it fill up my progress of 300/1000
all of it
just shoot him until you get the milestone
and if you need more ammo, walk around and melee zombies to refill ammo
just make sure his HP bar reaches zero so that he doesnt leave the staggered state
Out of curiosity too is the 1000 goal 1000 demons or am i misunderstanding/?
its 1000 damage with the accelerator overcharged
so you keep shooting him and it will still account for the damage counter
just don't execute him before you get the milestone
Ooooooooo that makes sense lol I thought I had to kill 1000 demons
there are another milestone for a weapon you can achieve this way too
starting my first pandemonium run wish me luck
gl
Just 2 more dog statues, then I can get that wraithstone and 100% chapter 16, I just don’t know where these last 2 dog statues are
found one of the two
Hi, can you help me figure out how this guy re arranged his weapon wheel? #screenshots message
I have no idea how he did that.
i hate how one of health essence is bugged in the forge... its not counting to my progress
same with forsaken plains ive collected everything and it says i havent found a secret area
I’m playing on Nughtmare, base settings, and I’m getting COOKED, fam. Hot damn, I wasn’t ready for it!
alright a guide for the dog statue got me to it pog
I won’t lie, the wolf statues are clever, but DAMN they are cleverly hidden and demand keen eyes. I almost never found all of them in the Karthul Marshes of the Cosmic Realm!
so where do I find the artbook and soundtrack? I have the Premium edition but cant see where to open it on steam
in your steam library you wanna filter by tools and soundtracks
alright thx, it does say its there but I wasnt sure lol
Should I let the intrusive thoughts win and purchase dark ages?
Dew it..
I have 76.76$ and it’s 74.45
hmm.
i wonder would they add toggleable sliders for slow mo during parrying and blocking. would be cool if they add, gameplay in proteh mod looks kino
Buy it
sacrifice a month worth of junk food.
dang why they gotta hide it, it is hidden in tools, so weird
Hugo said in a recent interview that even tho they don't promise anything, they will look for a way to add options to remove the slow mo sections of the game. So at least they are going to look for a way.
yeah saw his snippets on latest stream iirc
Afaik if you turn the speed sliders to the max the slow mo is still there, so we have to wait and see if they add some sliders to take those out
yeah it still is there, but with being increased af speed and difficulty, it becomes borderline unnoticeable.
I got everything in The Kar’Thul Marshes. Wait it says 99%? That has to be a bug.
Oh a challenge.
u never know if u actually did 100% or not

I just have to do a challenge it looks like but yeah got everything else
ig dat counts
I beat da game that was absolute cinema
anyways.
only criticism i could give to tda is forced RT and denuvo. and dat says something cuz it is related to specs and not gameplay thingy
music is cool asf.
It is very good!
Yeah I think Finishing Move did a really good job on the soundtrack
still their optimisation is really damn good tho compared to other forced RT or just nowadays AAA games, but ig they could have done more cuz they are actually masters of optimisation
they deserve their flowers for what they were able to pull off under such high expectations and pressures
mick is mick, but finishing move's soundttrack is damn good.
once again should i buy the game (on monday or wednesday, i get paid friday)
u can have from gamepass or buy it
steam
yea it is, for a game that runs with forced RT ig they knew to keep it in mind that it should still be playable, i never have RT settings on in any games i play but this one just runs very good that its playable
but it's fucking good game
then it's upto your craving for it lol.
yeah, prolly also just bad optimization. ive seen alot of ppl say that the games optimization is pretty mid
Runs good for me on ps5
i still get like 90 fps on 1440p with high settings so its overall fine still idrc
doom 2016 is 9 y/o game, but still looks gorgeous and sometimes even better than nowadays fps and AAAA games.
crazy
wait.....doom 2016 is....9 y/o 
Bc ID is awesome
Hype af for dlc
so i just booted the game up after 2 days and all i get is a black screen
and it keeps changing my resolution for some reason
looks like im not the only one whose getting black screened, it worked for the last 10 days but now started to
Is that what the band name is ? I thought it was finger bang
What were the cultists wishing to gain lmao
master levels and horde modes would goo crazy
really excited to see what they would do with the future expansions now, since rn there is no covid and other bs
eternal expansions were heavily taken aback due to covid (especially tag 2), but even still they delivered horde mode and master levels THAT good is crazy
I mean, is a very correct soundtrack to this game, specially by trying to mix the medieval style with the argent metal... I think it could be better but still, is good
Going by the Cultist UAC millennia later, likely they believed they would attain godhood in Hell, or had been corrupted enough that they now saw Hell as a collective power they could be a part of and wield.
I turned off dlss and frame gen, and I'm still getting a strong 120 fps on Ultra Nightmare settings at 1080p. Either my PC is a beast or this game is pretty well optimized (4070 super and 7 7800 x3d 32 gigs ram)
yeah its crazy how time flies
vagary demon
Hi
They didn’t add many Easter eggs did they 🙁
Is there any way to give player feedback
Y’all who here knows a decent amount of Warhammer 40k
Me, sort of
I play SM2
Read something about a guy called “Eldrad” managing to kill a chaos god
I’m trying to fact check this but I don’t know where to look and I am lost
Google says No😂 😂
You got a source with it tho? I wanna get all the context surrounding it as well
The thing is you can't check warhammer, once upon a time custodes were only boys and now there a literally animation of a female custodes, so yeah. You never know when games workshop makes a totally U turn. U should probably discuss WH in #general cause this is just for dark ages
Idk most people are active here so this is where I looked
Also I’ve seen so much about how the slayer could survive and thrive in Warhammer 40k and I wanna do my own research, make my own conclusion about his survivability
I love doom slayer, but he probably won't make it in 40k. When emperor himself is lying in a chair well, stuff is bad. He is all powerful and stuff but warp works a bit different than hell now
That’s the contradiction I am looking for, something to bounce it off of
From what I hear, he gets as far as the chaos gods and only that far cus they are not physical beings you can kill
Both universes are very different, A halo x doom is more plausible than doom x wh. WH is very dense so yeah, only hardcore lore experts could answer that
a 4070 pc i would say is a beast lol
You right, the problem is I’ve seen so many videos about how the slayer would survive and the majority claim he gets that far, and I can’t tell if it’s just glaze
In doom universe slayer came back from dead but if wh his soul would straight up be consumed by one of the chaos gods, emps case was different cause he was a combination of souls, doom guy is just 1 soul+ dark lord's power boost
That’s what I thought, then again lore for the doom slayer is starting to feel like the Goku equivalent of utter powerscaling bullshit
Like my brother in Christ, he now wields an infinitely dense mace, and with the research on the implications he can shatter the universe if he accidentally DROPS it
I mean games are fun, just enjoy the games and let lore be just there😂 it's all about gameplay tho lore is secondary for doom
Fair, lore is just entertaining to me lol
quite a mace there, thor must be jealous
Bro Thor is seething rn
But yeah, now we don’t know where to go with his strength so we can just scale that to fucking infinity
Doom's lore was not thought of with as much depth as of WH, Halo and other franchises
I think it’s all just a powertrip, and I love it lol
Or 1 hell knight on UN
Yup, it's just a power fantasy and a good one at that
Idk, the one I keep seeing is DS vs Sun Wukong
I hear arguments for both sides but the majority say it’s a Stalemate
Wukong all day
Haven’t played Black Myth so idk
I might, but I still find the idea that the guy who can beat the ass of God is just some guy on steroids funny
Wukong is mad bro. He slaps all day
Heard something about immortality, just a matter of whether he can actually kill the slayer, something about clones, but the clones aren’t perfect, idk
He has some 9 forms of immortality I guess
Wukong has a well defined powerscaling
It just feels like a back and forth “Nuh uh” “yuh huh”
Wait fuck that’s all powerscaling is
Just watch the DLC have some multiuniversal feat for the slayer and he becomes the most powerful character in fiction
i've heard that black myth isn't really an actual adaptation of journey to the west, it's more of just a soulslike with a big monkey dude
So I’ve heard, the question is do we compare the game to the myth
Do they correlate, are they entirely different?
No, It's like a what if, after the journey to the west
They correlate but game wukong is a bit weaker than the myth wukong i guess
Just got chapter 20-22 for my Ultra-Violence campaign run
This question was most apparent when I was powerscaling GoW Greek and Norse with someone else
We determined things that are referenced but not directly stated can’t be used fluidly
Greek more powerful?
I don’t remember the results of that, Greek gods don’t got too many feats in myth tbh
It’s mostly “I can control this” but we never actually see it
Yeah but kratos didnt hold back in greece he did in norse
Eh, kratos is a powerscaling mess too. Killed Zeus but got one tapped by Thor
And why tf would you “hold back” from something that would kill you
Devs are fucking it all up
Doom while having a few drinks is hella fun
No that is understandable tho, cause after he killed zues he let go of his power
still waiting for civvie11's video on TDA
No he still had the power within him, as stated in the Valhalla DLC
cause this time it wasnt about him but whats best for his kid
And then we got the whole “I have killed gods greater than him” which is referencing one god not the whole pantheon
Whether Norse or Greece is stronger is out of the question for that
Even without them it's super fun, It's DOOM
the valhalla DLC was literally just one big (really violent) therapy session
Doom is one big violent really therapy session
idk seemed tame to me😂
not false
But yeah, back to what I was saying, I ain’t trying to powerscale Norse and Greece here cus that’s a whole other mess. Point is you gotta figure out what can and can’t be used as actual lore
MFING DOOOM
specially true since in between the fall of argent d'nur and doom 2016 doomguy was just completely far gone and thought of nothing more than genociding hell
That's going to take a while for DOOM
I would have become that too if someone took my second home and trapped me in hell for millenias
Anything that contradicts previous lore i do not consider to be confirmed, anything outside the official cannon I do not consider. That simple
Like Death Battle’s speed stat for the doom slayer. Sure he’s fucking fast as hell but I don’t know his actual speed, we can’t say those rockets are going as fast as normal rockets
i stand by doomguy's eons in hell basically being the longest, most horrifically violent mental breakdown of all time
true
good thing he was mostly asleep, if he was awake then well, hell would have to move to a new home😂
What I do know about the slayer is that he is incorruptible, his armor is apparently indestructible, he has infinite strength, fast as fuck, and he “draws strength from his fallen foes”
if they hadn't put him in the sarcophagus D16 and eternal might as well haven't had happened, when hayden and the other UAC dudes went there it would have been nothing more than a giant red graveyard
Actually question, if he draws strength from his fallen foes, did he gain the strength of God? Is he God now?
Cus the fucker killed God
It would have just been an abandoned lava dimension😂
Not actually
According to hugo, someone made davoth
isn't it kinda confirmed that davoth isn't the capital g god of doom?
i think its the higher councils
Yup
isnt the father the capital g god of doom?
That’s something I can’t consider tho, even tho Hugo said it, I can’t consider it part of the canon
imagine since they basically put cthulu in this the actual god in doom is like azatoth or some shit
Devs of God of War said Norse Kratos is stronger but that don’t make sense
i dont think its ahzrak, he WAS the ruler of hell at that time
ohhh interesting
It’s the same situation here with what I said earlier, I can only consider info from the official games n shit canon
Sort of? Gods grow stronger with age also
yeah
But you know it don’t make too much sense
So yeah I can’t justify info from devs outside of the game canon
Yeah, loreeeeee writers need to get it together
So the way I see it until further notice he is God with a capital G until it is confirmed there are gods above him
I think we can confirm that there are some above, cause when khan maykr died someone went nooooo, Wasnt davoth for sure
wait does that mean doom 3 is canon? i heard hugo said it was before
Yeah but we only know it as a “mysterious voice”, still no clear confirmation
All we got is speculation on that part
No, they changed that title a few times , it was dark lord once, voice, then mysterious voice
true
I remember that, but still, speculation
alot of people thought it was davoth cuz of that
yeah but would have been impossible for him to speak like that
We can go off of official info and the implications behind it
But that’s about it
Thankfully the info we get is practically all powerscaling for the slayer
Its canon but not canon in the way you think
It doesn't fit on a timeline for doom 1, 2, 64, dark ages ect
I always thought it was just kind of a “oh and this happened too”
It's another universe that has its own earth and uac ect ect. But doom guys story ends in a different way there
We can say that for the most part a chunk of the doom 3 demons did evolve into the 2016 demons
they HAVE to make a sequel to doom 3
cuz they dont wanna make the same game 2 times in a row
Especially the hell knights of 2016 they're literally almost 1 to 1 with doom 3s hell knights
The Vagary is also a doom 3 demon
I got a feeling Hugo is gonna do some multiverse shit with modern Doom and Doom 3
Maybe we’ll finally get some lore as to why the shotgun is so bad
Doom already has established a multiverse
Hell is just the connecting throughline for each universe
I interpreted it as a sort of baseline for all universes
Think of a trunk of a tree, all realms are just branches off of if
That would explain the existence of the Rune Trials. Looking back they and the maps for them do not look native to hell in any aspect
I mean even the rune trial slabs themselves look like something native to the cosmic realm
They definitely don't ignore doom 3 though which i appreciate even if it is the black sheep of the family
It's not a good doom game but it's not a bad game
Doom 3 deserves some love, but the shotgun is just so bad i can’t justify it
one of only two doom 3 demons to appear in more than one game :( (ignoring doom resurrection :P)
(the other one of the two is regular unarmed zombies)
What’s Doom resurrection? Never heard of it. Definitely doesn’t sound like a movie. I wouldn’t know
ehh only 1/2 points because hell knights existed before doom 3 it's just the design
sooo anyone playing this on the ally?
it's an on rails mobile shooter game which is in the doom 3 universe
I think the imps were initally gonna be the doom 3 designs as well for 2016
Do I download premium mode to remove ads and get 1000 Doombucks a month?
Some very early 2016 gameplay trailers had different designs for the imps
it was before they had microtransactions on those things ✨
CoD doom 2016 or E3 doom?
Doom RPG, Doom II RPG and Doom Resurrection thankfully lived and died before The Scourge Of Advertisements
Mighty Doom was not so lucky 
E3 doom
Fair, but mighty doom was neat, it wasn’t t special but it was a time waster
They were like smaller versions of the hell knight designs iirc? Which funny enough if they'd kept those designs would have added even more credence to Roanoke gamings theory that hell knights evolve from imps
Replaying Dark Ages, and man the first half doesn't hold up very well on replaya
Meh. Crank up the gamespeed and skip the cutscenes and its alright
I actually disagree, I think it’s better the 2nd time around
Because at that moment the combat has already clicked
I mean like it's pretty good, it just has some sluggish moments and pacing.
Also yeah i thought the same, repeating the game is much easier in the first half on a mechanics level
Also the update really got me fucked up with Hebeth on Pandimonium
I'm really not enjoying losing my fucking shield because i failed to parry one agaddon hunter attack right though
Also holy crap Nightmare is hard now
The hunters piss me off now to no end
The game's weird. Sometimes you literally get the perfect parry but then your shield breaks.
But then you miss the timing and you get the parry.
It feels a bit buggy
I don’t notice it, I just get fucked up
I understand challenge but failing 1 parry losing my shield and then instantly getting shredded is not what i consider a fair challenge
If the games describe these thing’s only purpose be to hunt the slayer and the night sentinels they better fucking deliver
I thought Siege Part 1 and the second half had some to many really hard moments even on Ultra Violence pre patch
But now the WHOLE game feels really hard on Nightmare atleast
Maybe I'm just having a skill issue but that is annoying to me
They certainly didn't deliver in lore considering by eternal they've gone extinct
Tbh this game's Nightmare feels a lot harder than 2016 and Eternal now lol
I take back everything I said in this chat I am hooked
At least I beat UN pre-patch, god help me
Bro I was on console I was SUFFERING with Eternal’s UN
I appreciate that the glory kill for the hunter champion has you cutting it in half btw. Nice bit of continuity
Already thought Dark Ages had by far the hardest bosses out of all three games
If we don't include Samur
Azzcrack is somehow more of a bastard then Satan god himself
I died so many times the Enhanced Asscrack
Although Samur is still the worst fucking boss in the history of this franchise imo
Yeah but he's also fun, unlike David the mech devil
Yes. I disliked Eternal's bosses in general outside of Gladiator.
But Dark Ages and 2016 has super amazing boss fights. Especially Dark Ages.
Still sad the davoth was just marauder 2, I believe it was time constraints cus no way in the planning room they thought “hey let’s give him the green blink eyes”
Actually DOOM Hunters were a decent boss too. Falling into the pit to meet two at once was pretty cool
I can at least excuse Davoth being a boosted Marauder by him wanting a fair fight on both ends
And not trying to pull any cheap dark magic god tricks out of his ass for it
I mean I was hoping he would god damn it give me a fucking FIGHT
Eh if you let the spectral demons stay around he can start fucking you up
Especially on higher difficulties
I usually do at least it makes it interesting
Almost died in UN because of it
I think my main point though is Dark Ages first half doesn't hold up on replays as much as 2016 and Eternal's first half do.
Well idk. I probably like Dark Ages first half more than Eternal's first half.
It's just Dark Ages first half had some sluggish moments (like the Dragon rides) and goes on a bit long.
Dark ages first half imho is way more fun then eternals
That opinion might get me crucified in certain channels but idc
I agree, eternal’s was way to much exploring and gathering and then fucking Cultist Base out of nowhere to ruin your UN run
I think it's a lot more fun, but it goes on a lot longer.
So it takes longer to get to the better part of the game than Eternal does
If that makes sense
Because first half of eternal is like spend the first level with shit health and armor, no dash and no blood punch
Then even when you get those you still have cultist base to deal with
TDA always has something for you to kill so I love that
But yeah Eternal's first half is lame as hell.
Dark Ages first half is atleast fun
And cultist base is literally designed by satan
Cultist Base is just really boring and ugly
Honestly looks like a PS3 game.
It's way too long too
I’d say up until Mars Core is it boring
What’s there to do after TDA
Replay, we got a difficulty patch. Have fun
Like post game? UN run, pandemonium run, mess with sliders
💀 
Hunt for 100% completion
Is nightmare harder now
Nightmare is now harder than Eternals
Yeah agaddon hunters will now almost instantly kill you if you fuck up a single parry
Tbh. I find Mars Core kinda boring too.
I just like the concept, humor, and cutscenes of the level.
But the encounters and difficulty feel really lackluster.
A lot of the level design and platforming feel like filler
Also the music is alright except for BFG 10K.
Now I like that 
Hell knights take 100 hp away per hit
Also reaching city of Hebeth is pretty cool too I suppose
And if you fail to parry the 3 slash attack from them the shields instantly broken and you die because every single demon within a 500 meter radius is shitting projectiles at you
Idk the spectacle of the BFG 10k is always nice
Better
Thinking about it. Yeah Dark Ages first half is significantly better than Eternal's first half.
I just don't like the Dragon sections lmfao
Also haha funny Hayden line
Cosmic Barons are... probably the same as always
I didn't think they needed changes imo they seemed hard enough
Dragon sections are a little boring but I gotta feeling they are gonna rework them, spice them up a bit
Cosmic realm looked so cool and creepy (like it should)
Also I noticed the first half of Dark Ages has lackluster music.
The great and amazing music doesn't really appear until the second half.
Also Siege Part 1 has great music too
I really do want to know where Cosmic barons learned how to flash step
What’s y’all’s opinion on 2016’s first half tho
Unholy siege is my favorite track so fuck yeah it does
I'd like to be able to parry a barons attack without having to pray to god he doesn't decide to teleport behind my ass
I do like 2016's first half more than Dark Ages first half on the other hand admittedly
Like just once please game
Love replaying it on Nightmare when fully stacked.
Still great on fresh saves too, just a bit rough due to lack of equipment, runes, and weapons
2016’s first half has great atmosphere, and and fun level design. But it does have some bullshit and boring sections
2016 coming back from eternal and TDA just
It's not a bad game but my god.. it is so dated now
2016 is history, it’s where modern doom started
I look at 2016 and i think "this is what we considered fast back then? Jesus christ we did not know what we were missing"
It’s not good compared to what we had but fucking hell it was BEAUTIFUL when it came out
I like 2016 more than Eternal, but Dark Ages more than both. (Especially since 2016 has SnapMaps and there's a lot of really amazing SnapMaps if you look deep on YouTube and Discord.)
Though it's mostly the second half that makes me like Dark Ages more than 2016.
It actually was my first taste of real doom. I was bored, saw the game on game pass. I HATED shooters, they were so boring and all the same. I booted it up, and waited…
And then I grabbed a zombie by the motherfucking eye hole and CRUSHED THAT SHIT
See in terms of just sheer amount of content 2016 clears eternal and TDA. Snapmap is such an amazing and brilliant concept that it is a genuine disservice they never used it again and that nobody made as big of a stink about it
Still is beautiful.
VEGA Core is still my favorite level out of 2016 and Eternal by far.
Like that is a fucking GOLD MINE of content for a game to have and we just left it in a game from 2016
gameplay, skin, more unique gadget and weapons, is eternal
snapmap, pvp, soundtrack, graphic, demon design is 2016 imo
Also first half of 2016 has a lot more exploration, secrets, and interconnected world than Eternal ever had
It was Good, Doom 2016 started it all. It was like nothing else during that time. Quite unique and fun
Civvie phrased it better than I could
“Walk, shoot, take cover, stop, pop, move on, it’s an awful idea”
2016 also had much cooler looking and sounding weapons.
I thought Eternal's guns look and sound like weak thin plastic laser toys except for the Plasma Guns, and it's something that really bothers me.
They were more arcadey if that makes sense
Dark Ages has cooler sounding, feeling, and looking guns than both games though
yea 2016 is more realistic
Though I do miss 2016 Chaingun and Gauss, those sounded more powerful than most Dark Ages guns
2016’s combat shotgun would be my favorite combat shotgun if it didn’t look like a grey brick
Man, I miss the Gauss Cannon, Ballista is fine but Gauss Cannon was godly
"Wolfenstein: The New Order":
what about pistols😭
Yes
Look at the shotgun it just looks so bad
I also liked 2016 music more than Eternal's.
Much more raw, brutal, industrial, and experimental.
Eternal's music was more "jam-like" I guess? But sounded more artificial and empty
Haven't played it
2016 was mixed well
It does
Eternal’s music was a mess, Mick Gordon Bethesda controversy thing
Dark Ages has inconsistent music, but it's best songs, might be better than pretty much any Eternal and 2016 song.
2016 eternal dark ages all goated
Infernal Chasm is my favorite rn
From the Ashes is fav
I absolutely LOVE unholy siege, the triangle to the E1M1 riff makes me feel things
2016 also has faster quick swaps and holo swaps.
So quick swap combos feel more satisfying in 2016 compared to Eternal, especially due to the extremely beefy gun sounds and feel.
Love that too especially when it's bits play when slayer comes across Azarak for the first time
That song might have topped Flesh and Metal as well as VEGA Core as my favorite DOOM song ever.
But I'm not entirely sure yet
The stuff that plays in Cosmic Realm and the ocean tide pirate maps are also incredible and better than nearly any Mick Gordon song
Favorite track from 2016 is obvious enough but my second favorite track is Rust Dust and Guts, love the switching from soft to hard and then the GODLY riffs at the end
Rust Dust and Guts is Metal Hell's much more brutal, angry, and experimental father
Dark Ages feels like it has the best basslines out of the three games.
It feels very Bobby Prince
I mean everyone has there own music preferences right, When 2016 came bfg division was the song, now it's infernal chasm or from the ashes and a few others
Bro I’m gonna be honest NO song can top BFG Division
And yes I like Infernal Chasm more than The Only Thing They Fear is You. By a lot even.
I’m actually not a fan of TOTTFIY, probably cus of how it was mixed
No, I meant like right now with doom dark ages infernal chasm is like the bfg one
Tbf I'm beyond sick of TOTTFIY too. It got overplayed to hell
You right mb
I don't even like any song from Eternal anymore.
I used to love Gladiator though
I love TOTTFIY tbh like it’s the basic pick for a reason
I do love Gladiator it’s real nice
I used to like Cultist Base. But it feels way too dubsteppy and wub wub for my tastes now
I never even heard eternal soundtrack outside of the games. It never came on spotify
I think you just gotta take a break from the ost…
I actually really like cultist base, love the weewoo
I still like the chainsaw riff though
I did. I took a long break. Didn't change.
Also you see the circle of 5ths thing Mick did with Cultist Base? Brilliant
I personally like Mick’s music the best but that’s also just cause I personally like Industrial Metal more then regular Metal
He does it in Hell on Earth too
I think CB still bangs real good imo
I don’t think I’ve noticed but I’ll have to listen
My personal favorites from him are SkullHacker, Super Gore Nest and Metal Hell
DOOM 2016 music trumps all.
But Dark Ages very best songs are up there I think.
Eternal's music is....not a fan anymore. But I used to be.
TDA still slaps just as hard though without that personal preference
Cosmic Sea/Into the Void, What Lies Below and Atlan Battleground are FUCKING SICK
I am malding because ppl keep complaining they can't hear the music or that it's "weak and lacks punch" but then they don't turn up the music volume ever
I can’t blame Mick for Eternal man, I know I gotta lay that shit to rest but it’s still aggravating
Mick is the goat but finishing move inc did absolutely terrific job, They picked up quite well, but they do need to improve a bit if they want to like ever come close to what mick did with 2016. Cause some tracks are a bit flat
You gotta do music at 100 sfx at 60
I used to . Just not anymore
What other games did finishing move work on?
Truth nuke
I have music 100 and SFX at 70
I've not seen a single youtuber/streamer go into volume settings
It's funny because I still like BFG Division despite the overplay.
Though I don't think it's the best 2016 song.
Okay that explains it, finishing move hasn’t really worked on games that has to have music with the FEEL of doom
I have no idea, This is their first big one I guess
I think 2016 is a little to techno for my tastes. Most of eternal’s soundtrack is good though. And dark ages is almost as good as eternal imo, especially after listening to more songs outside the game
I feel that way about a few of the base campaign tracks jn eternal
I used to love them
They’ve worked on some Halo games, Borderlands 3, grounded, Callisto project, and some ads but FM hasn’t done a game like doom
maybe it’s cause I don’t listen to a specific one over and over but Eternal’s ost is still just as good for me
That makes sense, but still an amazing job
i got a little sick of TOTTFIY at one point but then I just took a break
How did you listen outside the game? it's not spotify right?
It’s on youtube
I don’t use spotify
Give FM the next DLC, they should do better
lossless? high quality audio?
Idfk
Loss?
It was good enough
hot take but unchained predator is one of my least fav tracks in dark ages
it is on spotify
Lossless audio is like a feature for music
okay, I will check it out
Eternal felt more techno and dubstep to me.
DOOM Hunted (the music for that pinky arena on Doom Hunter Base), Cultist Base, Doom Hunter boss fight, Doom Hunter Base ambience.
Cultist Base, Cultist Base ambience.
The crazy all over the place songs when progressing Arc Complex and Super Gore Nest before combat arenas.
The Urdak music. The Holt music. Etc
Yeah I know, I just saw loss and felt an instinct kick in
the DA ost
I feel at least in 2016, the music didn’t really want me to go and listen to it. Many tracks take a while to start up and don’t have good enough payoff imo
That’s weird cus that’s what 2016 was supposed to be
Yes
Wdym?
Oh yeah forgot to mention, Mars Core has a very techno song that plays through a big chunk of the level before big combat arenas
It was supposed to be more dubstep and less metal, Rip and Tear was one of the first tracks and tossed for that reason, then they needed one last track and they were short on time so they just threw it in
It kinda sounded like a bootlegged version of VEGA Core.
Apotheosis is so damn good
Flesh and Metal, Damnation, Hell choirs, Rip and Tear, BFG Division, Harbinger, Skullhacker etc are way less techno and dub wub than the Eternal songs I just mentioned
You right, I just heard this from Mick when he was describing production of 2016
Oh yeah Rust Dust and Guts also way less techno and dub wub than those Eternal songs
Actually now that I think about it you’re right
VEGA Core definitely techno, but Mars Core plays a very similar type of song (but a significantly weaker song IMO)
Okay i don’t think ID knows what metal is cus the rule was clearly there and those songs exist
I'm happy to see actual good convo about Doom composers rather than screaming and crying about the controversy and punching down composers that aren't Mick
Still sad about mick, hoping one day they make amends
Never will happen but a man can dream
I doubt but tbh I'd happily welcome Mick back any time
FM is also awesome but oh god I hope they weren't tormented the same way
It was just a lot, man
Corporate greed and executives, that’s all it really is
Can’t blame ID as a whole, and I can’t blame Mick
probably not considering they're a whole team rather than just one guy, plus they got history with MS by working on stuff like I think Halo 3's music
I can blame Marty though
But not Hugo or the folks making the games
Yea very minimal chance Mick will return tbh
Yea I personally hate this being regurgitated over and over, oh and don't read the comments section of videos with 2016 and Eternal's music, they're now full of shit like "here because of the subpar TDA soundtrack" like man just shut up and move on
Finishing Move did a great job and they belong here
Bro I think ALL the soundtracks are great
Mick, Andrew, David, FM, every mfer here made bangers
idgaf if anyone disagrees
I think I prefer FM's music over mick gordon. I like how its lighter and more thrashy than eternal and 2016
I feel like if nobody knew about the drama, people would have been convinced Infernal Chasm was Mick Gordon himself.
Thanks to the mick controversy (Silver lining),
Every game has an extremely unique sonic identity, I see it as something good coming from a bad situation.
kinda wish andrew hulshult did they music tho. that man is a fucking genius when it comes to music
Yea all Doom music feels iconic to be honest
I find myself listening to TDA OST more in the car than the Eternal OST honestly
I feel like FM has more Bobby Prince influences than Mick Gordon generally. (I don't mean references, just inspiration)
I honestly appreciate how Andrew, David and FM opted to make the music theirs as opposed to just trying to imitate Mick's
Also no, you can't take my pancakes
Eternal OST is my least favorite of the new games ngl lol
really wish I could find the part of the OST in chapter 14 when you ||fight the komodo champion or get the BFC|| tho. that part alone is my favorite in the whole OST
Adds to creative flavor while also maintaining the vibe
Shit.
The bass and percussion in that song beats like anything Mick Gordon did on the Eternal OST IMO
oh yeah the bass too
Valid actually.
For me it's;
- TDA
- Tag 1 & 2
- 2016
- Eternal
For the modern ones.
dude finishing moves bass tone is no fuckin joke
Just mmm
- The Dark Ages peak/best songs
- 2016
- Dark Ages general music
- The Ancient Gods stuff
- Eternal
True
There's a few TDA songs that are just absolute bangers of their own
I'm more like
- Davoth
- Eternal
- TDA, 2016 and TAG
But MoistCritikal said the music was just decent and generic!!! They can't have good bass tones!
Davoth shlaps
Duuude, I love charlie but he's got some mainstream hot takes ngl
Charlie is dummy sometimes
He has the most milquetoast takes sometimes lol
"Dark Ages was good, but doesn't hold a candle to Eternal and 2016"
How can someone play the 2nd half of Dark Ages and say the music is mediocre and that the game is inferior to Eternal and 2016?
The music could use better mixing in the game though
I think FM's work is raw shit <3
true ^
I think they're tweaking that though, as far as I remember. Hugo talked about it a little
They are patching it iirc
Right now it doesn't feel like it's standing out
I also (not an ad) use a program called FxSound, so I got to bass boost it and change the mix though
I think Flesh and Metal, VEGA Core, Rust Dust and Guts, Skullhacker, Damnation, Hell choirs, Rip and Tear game rip, BFG Division, Harbinger, and Transistor Fist beat anything Eternal and TAG 1/2 has EASILY
Dude the last five chapters could've been the only ones in the game, and I still would've paid double to get that experience again
Charlie is the YouTuber's YouTuber but sometimes I feel like he's pumping too much drama into his content
Thinking about it, I might put 2016 OST over TDA's best/peak songs, but I'm not entirely sure yet.
I'd have to think about it more
The MoistCritical situation is crazy
I'd say both are on similar levels though, and leagues of their own compared to Eternal and TAG 1/2
Also Chapter 22 is the best Hell mission in modern DOOM by light-years
I'm off to do Chapter 4 in my Melee Only Ultra-Nightmare run.
Be back soon either happy, or angry. ❤️
facts
Best music in a Hell mission too, and it's not even remotely close.
Not even Damnation and Hell choirs come close to Infernal Chasm
I think the best ones are BFG Division, Damnation, Cyberdemon, TOTTFIY, Gladiator, Final Sin, Maligog, Davoth, Unchained Predator, Blood Red, Into The Void, and Apotheosis are my faves
And Immora
Though tbf Argent D'Nur did play Flesh and Metal and Rip and Tear which makes it a harder choice.
But I don't know if that really counts?
Every composer cooked
Apotheosis man that title reminded me of Madness Combat
HOLY SHIT SAME
MC is such banger shit
Cheshyre is a fuckin king
I adore every single animation they made
REALITY COMPROMISED
THE SLAYER HAS BEEN ACTIVATED
doesnt Cheshyre just do the music tho? because Im pretty sure Krinkels does the animations
Ye
Yea
Krinkels does the animation
Yeah, he’s kinda edging on the line with “drama alert”
Flesh and Metal, VEGA Core, Ahzrak fights, Rip and Tear, Rust Dust and Guts, Skullhacker, BFG Division, Transistor Fist, Komodo Demon/Chapter 14 boss theme, the remix of DOOM 2016's menu theme on Chapter 14 that doesn't exist on YouTube, Infernal Chasm, Blood Red, Unchained Predator, Into the Void, Apotheosis
I feel like every single major YouTuber should have a note glued to their monitor that says "DO NOT BECOME A DRAMA CHANNEL"
Look if I was paid money to talk and not give a fuck about what I was talking about I’d inflate that shit too
Yes there's a song on Chapter 14 that's literally a remix of DOOM 2016's main menu theme. It's so badass, but no matter how hard I search YouTube, it's not on there.
I will need that C14 remix lol
Aside from that
One of the most badass things ever
It'll probably turn up soon
My favourite track from DOOM 2016 is the Main Menu, it's just got that dark NIИ vibe
Chainsaw guitar ❤️
My second favourite track is Rip & Tear
I liked it so much I mixed it like 3 separate times for YouTube back when I still had my account
I think my favorite is Rip & Tear, 2nd is BFG Division
Flesh and Metal #1 IMO.
Vega Core 2nd
SkullHacker I find to be most appealing
Skullhacker is also up there
Skullhacker, Rust Dust and Guts, and Flesh and Metal are the most brutal songs Mick has ever made.
Period
Yea I like me chaotic bullshit tbh /fond
Where my 264BPM dudes and dudettes at
Metal Hell quenches my thirst real good <3
Serrat didn't deserve allat💔
Obviously ❤️🔥
I hope he's still ||alive somehow|| was what I MEANT to say but then i forgot how to clipboard
up to Chapter 5
Hey is there any way to drop weapons as the Atlan?
(Or is it totally scripted how long you can use them)
The doom 2016 song maybe
For Doom in general it’s At Doom’s Gate
Do you play PN2 much
why is this so much brutally harder then ever? i had no issues playing nightmare and now i cant clear the last arena. Clearly something has changed that hasn’t been mentioned cause this is BS
A bit, I gotta get used to the 3D aiming because most of my shots don't register even after zeroing in
They mentioned it;
They had tweaked difficulty because it was far too easy in certain places, to their expectations.
I’ve spent far too much time on PN2 
I’ve done the main campaign like 4 times and Arena mode 5 times
i know they did. i cant even play it now and nightmare is my preferred difficulty.
What's your biggest problem with it so far
Certain enemies? AI?
i dont know but i just cant seem to clear arena as good as i did before. And i dont like cheesing.
Mainly the komodo is my problem now
i’m not having a sook cause it too hard. ive already played nightmare a shit ton of times on eternal and 2016. Something just feels off that they tweaked too much. my hunch is the shield
im on level 10 of nightmare playthrough. beat it on ultra violence first time. i love this game.
trying to 100% every level this time
i think the music is extremely underrated in this. I think the problem is Eternal's music was so good you can never top it. TDA's soundtrack would be acclaimed in any other game, but having to follow up Eternal is tough.
there are a few tracks in this I think are some of the best Doom songs ever.
when the shadows lengthened is top tier menu ost.
maybe only topped by doom eternal one.
hell, I would say it's up there with the doom eternal one
chat is slow tonight o.O
i think the shield saw is broken
yeah i feel that
why?
breaking easily. i dont know man i can just tell something was changed too much
i haven't quite noticed yet, but i'll keep an eye out.
did a ramp your sliders up on accident?
nope not at all. it feel like they have been.
if gameplay was sharable on discord i’d show how brutal this fight is
you can upload to youtube and then send link
you on PC? i'll watch if ya add me
xbox
or this
i got no clue how you record gameplay on xbox/ps, but you can google
I'd just search it up. Xbox used to have a thing built in. Idk if it's still there
brb, gonna continue my run.
(On chapter 5 now)
yow anyone know how i can skip the id tech notice
The cosmic void stuff has to be some of the best of all time
into the void has to be the games main theme
unchained predator, it is 
i got twitch activated if You care to watch how brutal this is for me
Yeah for sure. Just finished my chapter.
I'm on 6 now. Cruisin
i just realised
tda won't have the config to put your weapon in front of
you
like, how it was in doom 1, 2 ,64.
because of the existence of shield

Think my fav thus far is Atlan Battleground.
I like that it says you're streaming COD Ghosts lol
Extinction looks a lil different than I remember
Oh, Dan Olson recently did a presentation on CoD Ghosts
And how it's just completely devoid of any sanity
i dont how that works i just started streaming on doom.
i need to get to the last arena
which i’m at now
i should probably check my keybinds but has anyone else felt like sometimes it just automatically melees, if not then its just user error on my part but im curious
see
Anyone else having game freeze issues when they click on their 2nd monitor and then back in game
So to honest, it looks very much like how nightmare was before, just slightly cranked up.
I believe you're experiencing positioning issues; Very in their face can work, but not when there's so many big faces
Too broke for a second monitor 
did You just see that
Fortunately I actually got a video of that same fight before the patch, on nightmare (Minimal tweaking, mostly just faster. No damage changes)
https://youtu.be/XQQYOj-r3uE?si=hoRpvxEfcQAgsvIv
We can compare notes
Hm. So it's not the sliders
it be nice to switch weapons faster
I think it's a good speed for what TDA is aiming for, but maybe just slightly faster could be cool. Or hugo can add another slider for that too
mhmm impressive, now let's see paul allen's gameplay
i cant block wtf
Throw shield, switch weapon then try again
I've had it end a few UN runs, with a glitch that takes blocking away
I see you getting punished each weapon swap, make them safer in TDA.
Step away or await until a parry/break to swap - or, shield bash for a faster sqap
Swap*
SQUAWK
Also though, imo this was like the fight out of the campaign. The song, the scene, everything.
It's perfect that they tuned it up a little
My 2nd one is coming today so ill get back to you on this fr
Last note btw, being I see you using them;
I could be a lil dumb - but I believe SSG and Rocket Launcher have the slowest swap speed.
sliced
That first ruby fight in nerathul is hard
send them an email
I added you if you wanna VC, I wanna keep watching while I record my vids- but also feel bad making youu pause
its fine man
i can chat in between
kk
Can you send me their email?
Honestly dumb fonded by my brother thinking this soundtrack is shit. He got me into doom through Doom 3 BFG on xbox 360.
Course, his taste in metal doesn't go far too past nu metal.
got your stream up too now.
I should launch my twitch up too lmfao
not sure if i should do the boss
Why not?
i parried that
Tbf, only nu metal bands I like are Mudvayne and Korn.
But I generally prefer industrial metal, black, or thrash.
Stuff like Sodom, Voivod, and 3Teeth
Someone should check on #screenshots
Those are all top picks ngl
I grew up on a lot of Children of Bodom, Death and I looved Mudvayne, but Soilwork and Fear Factory introduced me to more industrial stuff lol.
Wierdly found 3Teeth through my feed after enough Marilyn Manson actually
Ypu got this
oof
anyways, what are y'all expectations on changes they would do in the first ever massive update of tda?
not first but i hope multiplayer added someday
*Maybe fixing the glitch that prevents shield usage
*Master Levels, hopefully? Ik hugo said they might show up before DLC 1, so fingers crossed.
*If they can't get Master Levels I'd love a Horde/Wave/Roguelike mode.
*Maybe more skins? Like events from eternal?
*Giving Finishing Move a raise because they absolutely killed it?
got it
master levels would be probably added with dlc
doubt it would be in first ever update.
prolly going to be for bugs fixing and (maybe) tweaking up the preset difficulties a lil bit
Oh and the sliders for Extreme Parry and Life Sigil count too
another arena i struggle with is in the beast
I'll be back, gonna try Chapter 6
dude You should had seen that wtf
this is what i’m talking about
Does anyone here have a Prince St. Pizza receipt of their order? I wanted ask something about it
Anyone playing this on their handheld?
Aggadon hunter/reven ruby fight in nerathul is bullshit
Hated this section but i finally got it, i forgot what i used for it
I'm on my nightmare playthrough now. how do you disable tutorials
I swear I've checked every option in the settings and it isn't here
should be on the first page, 4th one down
have You looked in the settings while on the title menu
in game menu is different to the title menu.
^
what the fuck
What about the Master Level encounter in 'From Beyond' ay?
Chapter 6 is down
woooo
That's the worst..

Just reached Chapter 7 on my Melee only UN run, and I know if I die after making chapter 10 imma probably just retire.
Go live on a farm or something.
Is there even meant to be a Hunter infront of one of these portals? It's not tied to the leader health bar and it despawna after you beat it
appropriate reaction
and good luck btw
maan, it feels so weird sucking this hard at tda lol
Appreciate it 
Why you suckin?
because my experience with fps games doesn't really go further than doom eternal lmao
hell knight felt like side-stepping making me shield dash into one of those invincible fat boys
massive skill is----
Totally fair.
At least you got a kick ass FPS introduction lol.
Yeah they really like trolling the lock-on. Kinda ruins my day sometimes lmao.
tru...
hoping to get over it though
i did it for eternal so now it's time to do so for tda🥱
You got this, fr

