the-dark-ages

[wispy flower]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/3017860/discussions/0/560246339316833270/

[mental grotto]

preciate it im not too upset its mostly just funny. Didnt know ahzrak was that powerful bru 😭

[hoary heron]

I only have D2.

[tawdry crypt]

oh another neat thing, you can change the head on the bottom of the hud to look like doom guy's old sprite head

[cunning shale]

Fuck that was a game

[tawdry crypt]

[wild rose]

I'm so sorry for you I guess

[cunning shale]

My hand hurts

[wispy flower]

What we playing? Heavenly Badonkers; angel bitch?

[cunning shale]

wtf is that

[wispy flower]

Idk, my wife found it on steam and now it's our joke that we're gonna buy and play together

[slim crypt]

damn you don’t know about heavenly badonkers?

[tawdry crypt]

is it on steam

[wispy flower]

I don't think it's coop 😕

[harsh egret]

93% positive reviews, might be goated ngl

[wispy flower]

Yeah it's on steam, but I don't think you need both hands to play if you know what I mean

[cunning shale]

What is it a hentai game?

[tawdry crypt]

oh

[slim crypt]

it’s inspired by doom

[cunning shale]

You can always help rub a homie out

[tawdry crypt]

oh thats- oh

[harsh egret]

its a game alright

[slim crypt]

word is bond

[wispy flower]

True, I shouldn't be so selfish, come here

[cunning shale]

Rub a tug tug bitch

[uneven dragon]

so now that bethesda has said that tda had a bigger launch than eternal will the chuds finally be quiet

[tawdry crypt]

i might have to kill someone just for bringing that game up, i didnt wanna see that

[slim crypt]

no they’ll continue tf you expect

[wispy flower]

I never told you to look it up

[hollow sandal]

Chuds?

[harsh egret]

no, now the game is a flop cuz they mention "players" and not "copies"

[cunning shale]

I don’t think it was bigger it sold a fraction of the copies. You can’t say it’s a bigger launch.

I love doom but these are not good sales

[tawdry crypt]

hello spinda you will now take my mind off of what i just saw
whats your favorite pokemon

[harsh egret]

im obv being sarcastic

[cunning shale]

Tomb raider sold like 3 million the one from 2013 and that was bad

[wild rose]

3 million in less than a week dude

[harsh egret]

its not 3 million sales

[uneven dragon]

bro they said it has more players than eternal lmfao

[cunning shale]

It is a flop. You don’t have to hide from the truth bc you like a game. I like it too

[hollow sandal]

Oh man I haven't been into Pokémon In years. I don't have exactly one favorite. It was spinda, flygon, chandelure, hydreigon was sick

[cunning shale]

It didn’t sell 3 million.

[harsh egret]

its really not.

[tawdry crypt]

fair

[uneven dragon]

it is a flop
"Thank you for making DOOM: The Dark Ages the biggest launch in id's history - 7x faster to 3 million players than DOOM Eternal."
it's still a flop because uhh because uhh thats just players and not total sales uhh

[wispy flower]

I'll show you a floppy...

[slim crypt]

ayo fuck pikachu tho

[cunning shale]

Yes players not buyers of $80-110 games.

[uneven dragon]

you "total sales" motherfuckers are acting like microsoft don't own gamepass and don't want people to play it via gamepass

[cunning shale]

I hope you do realize it’s not the same

[harsh egret]

and apparently we are acting like they dont get revenue from gamepass

[cunning shale]

Does a month of gamepass cost $80-110? Then no you can’t say it’s the same.

[uneven dragon]

people are playing through gamepass a microsoft and xbox owned platform bro 😭

[wispy flower]

Looks like I gotta buy more copies to make up for it so people stop telling me my comfort game is a slop flop

[slim crypt]

isn’t there a source supporting that claim

[cunning shale]

$80-110 isn’t the same as $18 usually lower. Simple math

[uneven dragon]

why would microsoft consider "people getting gamepass/using gamepass" not a success

[cunning shale]

It’s not the same amount of money not even close

[tawdry crypt]

me when i cant accept a game is going good with sales

[uneven dragon]

and? they want people to use gamepass in the long run

[tawdry crypt]

fuck off let id software have this

[harsh egret]

they still get revenue and with 7x the players, even on gamepass, its still huge dollas my guy.

[uneven dragon]

and even if TDA doesn't reach eternal numbers, that doesn't make it a flop, because eternal is the best selling doom game ever obviously not every game is gonna reach exactly eternal numbers

[cunning shale]

It deepens how many it drives. But say 2 or 3 months of gamepass vs a sale is a loss

[uneven dragon]

they want people using gamepass and they want player numbers
and both of those have succeeded
and it's still selling well just not as much as eternal

it is factually not a flop lmfao

[harsh egret]

ok 7x the players is worded wrong, but u get what i mean

[cunning shale]

It is but don’t forget Microsoft has pumped about 100 billion. The 2025 projected 5.5 billion in Gamepass isn’t close to cutting it.

[uneven dragon]

the revenue is not only coming from gamepass though

[cunning shale]

Like yall realize I want Xbox to do well I own an Xbox and a lot of Xbox games. I play only Xbox.

[harsh egret]

yh the game was 2nd best selling next to fortnite on ps5 lmao

[uneven dragon]

if the game is a flop then why is it currently selling well and has a large playerbase
saying "it's not as much as eternal" =/= "it's a flop"

[tawdry crypt]

i still dont see why you can't just let id have this win of selling that many copies in the first week

[harsh egret]

i mean they didnt, we are talking about players not copies

[wild rose]

It did

[cunning shale]

True but if games areant selling well outside of gamepass which doom the dark ages doesn’t seem to be then it becomes how much does it drive for gamepass.

That we’ll have to wait and see. Sales wise it’s not good. It’s quite poor. You’re not stupid I assume? You can see steam player numbers of doom the dark ages and oblivion remaster and Clair 33 all day 1 gamepass games.

Oblivion is at 216k peak. Clair was well above 130k last I checked. Doom eternal was like 111k peak.

[inner wigeon]

I think it’s a not-flop enough to warrant potentially another future doom game

[harsh egret]

no it didnt lmao.

[uneven dragon]

doom the dark ages is selling well outside of gamepass though... just not as much as eternal lol

[wild rose]

Oh I see what you guys mean

[orchid marten]

This will most likely be the last proper doom game we are gonna get i assume

[inner wigeon]

What does that mean

[uneven dragon]

it's the doom franchise bro we will get another doom game no matter what

[cunning shale]

What I’m saying which should be obvious based on sales is it’s not an instant commercial success and as of rn it’s deep in the red. Hopefully that’s not the case in the future if it gets enough gamepass subs and long term sales.

[harsh egret]

ehm they are doing perfectly fine lmao

[uneven dragon]

it is not "deep in the red" vro 😭

[slim crypt]

dawg we not acting like we ain’t getting another doom game wtf 😭

[cunning shale]

That’s what worries me more than anything. I really hope not

[harsh egret]

thats a crazy exageration lmao

[uneven dragon]

it has a large playerbase and lots of people are playing through gamepass

microsoft is happy about that

they will let bethesda/ID make another doom game

[slim crypt]

some of you on twitter too much lmao

[orchid marten]

After this, there isnt much to do. The story effectively came to an end in eternal and rn we are playing the early past of the slayer. What much could they do after that? Its not a "this game was a failure" ending, its the "what are we supposed to do now" ending

[cunning shale]

Deep in the red as in its revenue is far less than it’s made yes it is.

[harsh egret]

we are getting one guy'd

[wispy flower]

Next is the Quake revival / crossover

[tall nymph]

deos depth of field have an effect on fps?

[slim crypt]

no

[orchid marten]

Exactly. Thats not a real doom game

[frosty dagger]

i really hope the dlc's come soon, and that they're as great as the ancient gods part 1 and 2 for doom eternal as i really enjoyed both of those
this game feels a bit unfinished after playing just the main campaign

[cunning shale]

Fuck social media especially Twitter. It was cancer 5-10 years ago and it’s worse now.

[wispy flower]

I think it can, but I leave that shit off for my eyes

[uneven dragon]

prove that
how much did it cost them to make it

[wild rose]

The game still has 30k peak on Steam, just 10k less than 16 peak and this game is on gamepass where most people are playing, and Microsoft know this would happen so they are totally benefitting. If it didn't they wouldn't have it on gamepass

[uneven dragon]

also we're ignoring ps5 players, xbox players, etc

[wild rose]

It's really not worse now

[harsh egret]

they better be miles better than tag was for eternal lol

[slim crypt]

is that umbreon

[wild rose]

We have to use the ones that give data lol

[honest vortex]

For Meathook?

[uneven dragon]

he was joking you lobster

[frosty dagger]

i really loved them especially tag 1, with how difficult it was (and the locations were very unique and pretty)

[orchid marten]

Lmao didnt seem like it to me

[frosty dagger]

tag 2 felt rushed and kinda mid

[hollow sandal]

Covid

[harsh egret]

they were both pretty rushed

[frosty dagger]

yea

[wispy flower]

It was

[slim crypt]

peak pokemon

[cunning shale]

51-200 employees working for about 4-5 years. Hard to say.

I can only make an educated guess based on other games and the fairly lengthy dev time and medium sized studio.

Not cheap. Probably 50 mill?

Frankly anything in the 50-300mill is a pretty good estimation. It’s hard to know since it’s a team under Bethesda under zenimax under Microsoft lol.

How much they spent on marketing is the biggest X factor

[wispy flower]

Definitely more

[harsh egret]

more than 50mil for SURE

[tawdry crypt]

[honest vortex]

To each their own.

I think Meathook is the most bland and soulless combat song Mick Gordon has ever produced.

Or atleast very very close to it

[tawdry crypt]

awesome pfp, 10/10

[wispy flower]

Controversial take

[orchid marten]

I dont think tag 2 was rushed they just put more effort into telling the story rather then enhancing the gameplay like tag 1 did. Imo tag 2 has the same vibe as TDA to me

[tribal patrol]

super gore nest is his best for me

[hollow sandal]

Sounds very contrarian

[orchid marten]

More effort into the story rather then gameplay

[wispy flower]

Ok, I see that

[harsh egret]

well theres always gonna be someone who doesnt like something

[slim crypt]

everytime i hear or see tag 2 all im thinking of is tekken rn

[hoary heron]

I wish they let us turn off parry color attacks, imagine melee without a parry color so you'd have to rely on their animations, or all ranged attacks being the same color as their non parry attacks. I need that as a difficulty option.

[cunning shale]

Usually a safe bet is take a games budget and double it that’s the games cost. Marketing generally costs about as much as the game itself.

This is for the AAA space at least. Not applicable to like AA

[uneven dragon]

that was cause of covid

[orchid marten]

You can turn it off in the settings

[frosty dagger]

where is yours from?

[honest vortex]

W8. Who's?

[harsh egret]

yeah ik but that wasnt my point

[tawdry crypt]

i got mine from a friend who drew it for me

[honest vortex]

Oh nvm

[uneven dragon]

Okay now factor in gamepass sales/players, playstation sales, xbox sales, steam sales + player count, collectors edition sales, people buying skins

[frosty dagger]

so lucky 😭

[wispy flower]

I lowkey agree with you, I think some of the best stuff he did was Cultists base, the hell soundtracks and the icon of sin, not to mention 2016s soundtrack

[orchid marten]

People buy skins in a single player game with no multiplayer?

[hoary heron]

All I see is parry circle

[hexed ginkgo]

Yo can someone help me pls?

[tawdry crypt]

ehh, i mean kinda, i had to win something to get it drawn

[uneven dragon]

and factor in that it's only been 1 week

[wispy flower]

With what

[tawdry crypt]

along with three other things

[orchid marten]

You can adjust the color of the parry somewhere. Just turn the parry color to the same color as the other attacks and its basically the same thing like turning it off

[honest vortex]

Super Gore Nest is alright.

It feels like it's trying to replicate Rip and Tear in a way but it doesn't execute it nearly as strong or special.

[harsh egret]

people really underestimate ps5 sales i think

[hexed ginkgo]

Like I can’t link my ps5 account with Bethesda it keeps saying link failed and to contact support

[terse hollow]

Some people are driving 12 hours just to get a pizza from a certain place so they can get a exclusive skin. Yes

[slim crypt]

you better like vega core.

[uneven dragon]

i think it is an intentional callback to rip and tear yeah

[cunning shale]

The saving grace is id tech isn’t a massive team. And the id tech engine can go onto power other games it already has. So despite the pretty long dev time.

So this game may not need to be very profitable to have been worth it. May even be okay to be a loss given id tech 8s engine value.

[true merlin]

Huh

[wispy flower]

I have the same issue on PC, idk if it's been fixed since I haven't played in a week

[harsh egret]

and i paid a guy 15 dollars to get the skin

[tawdry crypt]

but uhhh, wanna be friends

[honest vortex]

Of course. God tier song

[slim crypt]

goated

[cunning shale]

Games a fucking expensive. You know the spider man remaster was like 200 million????

[hoary heron]

I'm asking to turn off parry color for melee attacks 😛

[hexed ginkgo]

It’s a problem on their end right? Cuz bro I don’t have anything else linked and it still says that

[terse hollow]

Yeah lmfao I was gonna just call one of the places and buy a pizza for one of the workers or something, but its not even worth it

[slim crypt]

welcome to money.

[hollow sandal]

Lol remember or no?

[honest vortex]

Also VEGA Central Processing was my favorite level of all time for the longest time until I played the Cosmic Realm stuff

[orchid marten]

Ohh i dont think you can turn them off entirely

[hollow sandal]

Hugo pleewaaase😭

[frosty dagger]

why not haha

[wispy flower]

It must be their end, cos I logged into my account and checked and nothing seemed wrong, it just wouldn't let me link it

[tawdry crypt]

yay!!

[orchid marten]

You can only adjust the color of them. I just made the parry be red so its similiar to the regular attacks

[slim crypt]

cosmic realm is top tierrrrr

[cunning shale]

I know I have a degree in finance. I know why it costs so much. Doesn’t mean it’s not insane.

If anything it’s easier if you’re ignorant. Knowing the costs and calculating stuff in your head breaking things down it’s a lot.

[tawdry crypt]

same with you archi (i hope you dont mind me calling you that), wanna be friends too?

[hexed ginkgo]

Fr bro I can’t even get the butcher skin for that smh crazy I hope they fix it fast

[hoary heron]

which is I made a suggestion haha

[pastel matrix]

Hey guys. Did any1 bump into an issue where twitch gives the code for the reward, but the website says its not valid?

[hoary heron]

btw I want that pizza skin, how do I get it?

[cunning shale]

Oh yeah fuck twitch drops

[honest vortex]

Do you like 2016 or Dark Ages more? (As a game, not OST wise)

[harsh egret]

worked fine for me

[slim crypt]

i don’t even remember replying that to you lmao

[cunning shale]

Especially if it isn’t like a multiplayer game.

[honest vortex]

Also yeah Cosmic Realm is GOATed

[slim crypt]

dark ages for me rn

[cunning shale]

You did lol

[slim crypt]

well idk why you acted so serious lmao

[cunning shale]

It’s not even fucking close. Tda is such a good game.

[uneven dragon]

ok but when you establishing the profit you were ignoring xbox sales, gamepass sales, playstation sales and only counting steam sales

[cunning shale]

Like the joker, why so seriousssss?

[frosty dagger]

those were some of my favourite levels fr

[uneven dragon]

and that's not even factoring in collectors editions and skin deals

[hollow sandal]

Hii yeaa, sounds good

[slim crypt]

do not play it high btw i always tell people this

[honest vortex]

Same.

What do you rank favorite to least favorite for the modern DOOM trilogy in general? (Even including The Ancient Gods P1 and 2 if you want)

[terse hollow]

Not to mention alot of people on pc already have pc gamepass and probably don't need to buy it on steam

[tawdry crypt]

this is a win

[paper jay]

Greetings fellow humans!

[cunning shale]

No wasn’t ignoring it. All that’s taken into account. I’m sure some of those 3 million are people who bought the game on Xbox with or without gamepass.

Idk how many obviously. Educated guess 100-400k. I’d say closer to 100. But it’s hard to know.

[hollow sandal]

Hi! We like doom

[uneven dragon]

Atlan Battleground is so good

[paper jay]

I do aswell, but sadly i still dont have the games

[wispy flower]

I better not catch you liking Doom again

[terse hollow]

I feel like any game on steam thats also on pc gamepass will automatically have at least 30% less players on steam charts

[tall nymph]

I was baked af first time I played through it lol

[slim crypt]

…..(i actually never played ancient gods so don’t kill me but i really need to soon) but

least to best:
2016
eternal
dark ages

it’s just better as it moves on

[tall nymph]

that one puzzle ☠️

[slim crypt]

felt like i was swimming irl

[frosty dagger]

fully agree but i still think 80$ instead of 60$ pricetag made a lot of ppl change their minds (or wait for sales more likely)

[harsh egret]

86 here even!

[late flume]

New GPU arrived, time to try again!

[cunning shale]

What’s 34k x 1.3? 44.2k. If the game had done like even 50 or 60k peak I’d be feeling comfortable with its success.

[hollow sandal]

Holy fuck

[cunning shale]

And i am looking at the estimated number of steam sales which is around 400k.

[slim crypt]

yea we doing maths and meth and shit

[paper jay]

What

[cunning shale]

So in reality we’re looking as of rn probably very close to 600k sales.

[frosty dagger]

really? wow,, where?

[uneven dragon]

Best to worst

DOOM: The Dark Ages
DOOM 2016
DOOM: The Ancient Gods Part 1
DOOM Eternal
DOOM: The Ancient Gods Part 2
DOOM VFR

[frosty dagger]

it's 80 euros

[terse hollow]

I'm not arguing any of that lol, making food and really don't feel like actually looking into it. I'm just saying there's no way of knowing forsure how many people are playing through gamepass so id take everything with a grain of salt

[slim crypt]

god damn i need to play the tag dlc

[harsh egret]

norway

[frosty dagger]

real and based
i'd swap doom 2016 and the ancient gods part 1 though

[cunning shale]

Cap.

It goes

Doom tda
Doom eternal
Doom 2016
Doom eternal dlc its unplayable on console maybe different for pc.

[uneven dragon]

well given i dont play console

[slim crypt]

tda
eternal
2016

[uneven dragon]

i thought abt it but i love doom 2016 and doom 2016 is better storywise and in some other aspects so i kept its regular placement

[errant mason]

It is done

[harsh egret]

for me i'd have eternal and TDA on the same level tbh

[cunning shale]

That’s what I’m doing. Lol.

It’s everyone who’s parading around like it’s a massive success. Which I guess I’m a shitty person to rain on the parade bring realism into what should be fun.

[terse hollow]

Cap. Doom eternal was more than playable, and that was when I had a series s. I think I might have crashed once or twice after leaving the game open in the background for a day or two but it ran perfectly

[frosty dagger]

they're both great games unique in their own way

[errant mason]

Only the 3rd game I've ever 100%'d behind Elden Ring and Witchfire

[slim crypt]

i’m a sucker for dark gothic so tda is for me

[harsh egret]

yh, and ill go back to both, they are both great

[tall nymph]

people need to let this game get through the honeymoon period before ranking it below/above other games

[terse hollow]

Might have been a different story for you but doom eternal ran just fine on console for plenty of people

[cunning shale]

That’s fair. Different preferences. For me tda is way higher and many doom eternal will be wha higher.

[slim crypt]

no i’ll make opinions now

[cunning shale]

The game yes. The dlc no.

[honest vortex]

Funny enough. I think I agree basically 100%.

Though I'd probably put regular Eternal over TAG 1 due to Arc Complex and Nekravol being cool.

[errant mason]

TDA is peak Doom imo. Fantastic game. Some minor quibbles on UI and sound balance but overall the most fun I've had since D16 first came out

[slim crypt]

I NEED TO GET TAG

[paper jay]

Greetings

[cunning shale]

Did they fix flight sim 2024?

[tawdry crypt]

imma be honest i thought this was a timeline

[harsh egret]

they need to do a lil weapon balancing imo, and some other qol stuff but yh

[terse hollow]

Maybe im remembering wrong and didn't actually play the dlc but im 90% sure i played the whole thing since I usually buy the deluxe pack or whatever. But I guess I can't say forsure, either way the fact that i don't remeber it alone shows enough lol

[paper jay]

[terse hollow]

It wasn't that memorable if I did play it I guess

[cunning shale]

On console? To be fair I can’t do quick switching so

[winter vault]

Y'all see that the PC Game pass version of the game worked on 1650s and 1660s

[terse hollow]

Yeah on series s

[winter vault]

It's so crazy lmao

[slim crypt]

quickswitching on console can be easy just take a lil min

[terse hollow]

Still playing series s, only game I really had issues with is sm2

[cunning shale]

It’s not that surprising. Lots of rt is software based or can be run in software not hardware.

[winter vault]

IDK why they only let the PC game pass version boot without a 20+ series card. Like clearly they have a software solution that works.

[unreal igloo]

Guys I got doom the dark ages

[winter vault]

Wouldn't be the greatest experience but it's a cool feature to tinker with and im sure the community will get a 16xx version working great eventually

[cunning shale]

Well good for you it’s just not playable for me. I never really liked quick switching so I didn’t learn it. Not sarcasm btw I’m happy you enjoyed it

[paper jay]

Nice.

[terse hollow]

None taken, like i said it mightve been a different story for you but it wasn't unplayable on every console

[errant mason]

Yeah possibly. Although once your guns are all maxed they all kick ass. I like the "pick your favourites and run with that" vibe. No being forced to use specific weapons or mods to kill stuff. Lots of room for experimentation

[cunning shale]

Flight sim 2024 may run like shit but damn is it pretty.

If I was into these kinda games 2020 runs pretty well on series x tbh and looks mostly good. Some raw textures tho even in the pre determined spots

[harsh egret]

the ravager is so good that its kinda silly, free health and infinite ammo more or less, on arguably the best weapon in the game

but yeah i agree, i like that u are able to choose ur own weapon and stuff

[slim crypt]

i perfer the non force using of weapons in this game

[cunning shale]

No not at all. But it was pushing the limits of what controllers should do. Frankly eternal already was especially on any decent difficulty. The dlc ramped shit up to 11 so

[slim crypt]

some controller players are lowkey better than pc players on eternal

[cunning shale]

By the way in America there already been at least 7 failed landing attempts since we fired like a crap ton of air traffic control.

[harsh egret]

even with that, i still purposely swap between guns for some variety for myself, its always fun to use diff guns. people complaining about being let to just choose one gun the whole time are kinda the ones at fault ngl

[cunning shale]

If you’re gonna fly be careful. I hope I don’t hear a news story…

[frosty dagger]

same i try to balance out weapon usage in each fight

[tranquil zodiac]

im replaying eternal after beating dark ages, and i gotta say... i was delusional in thinking TDA is as good as eternal as i was playing it. Eternal feels so much more right. Simple but deep, elegant, varied...

[slim crypt]

it’s really hard for developers too bc people also complained about the management system of ammon and shit so it must be difficult to pick

[frosty dagger]

i love being able to switch to the rocket launcher and using it in cqc if i'm on low health

[harsh egret]

and if i didnt for example use the chainshot in a fight, next fight i always remember to pull it out and start with it

[frosty dagger]

turning rocket launcher into a weapon to heal yourself with was the best design choice

[slim crypt]

yeah by then it’s literally broken to use

[frosty dagger]

so real i literally do that all the time

[harsh egret]

even the grenade launcher, i love it

[frosty dagger]

it carried me through all 3 boss fights at the end no cap

[harsh egret]

i srsly think i love to use every gun in the game

[errant mason]

For sure. I pretty much ignored it till I needed to get the mastery and yeah, that shit is pretty broken lol

But broken in a fun way

[frosty dagger]

that's the only weapon i'm not using at all tbh
rocket launcher just feels too good

[slim crypt]

grenade launcher….lowkey ass lmao

[errant mason]

Rocket Launcher with the self heal is hilarious

[harsh egret]

yeah i swap between them as well, maybe the shredder is the one i use the least

[errant mason]

Remove the one downside of using splash damage close up lol

[slim crypt]

it’s just like why not use the rocket launcher tbh

[frosty dagger]

it feels so silly getting up in their face and healing yourself with each shot

[slim crypt]

i can just imagine when they making these upgrade ideas they just think “fuck it why not”

[orchid marten]

I think they kinda fucked up the weapon balancing in this game ngl. Some guns are so so strong, especially the masteries, and then there are some guns where you feel like you probably spit at the demons and get better results

[errant mason]

Rule of Cool

[harsh egret]

pulverizer moment

[tall nymph]

Ssg feels like hands down the best overall weapon in this game, I could only use that and beat the whole game with it

[slim crypt]

we are not taking any slander

[errant mason]

SSG I used like 70% of the time

The Delete Button

[orchid marten]

To me its the exact opposite. The ssg feels terrible to me in this game and i dont know why

[tall nymph]

Also: does playing on ultrawide mean I get less fps than same resolution on non-uw?

[slim crypt]

now that’s a take

[harsh egret]

ssg is so satisfying man

[terse hollow]

Ssg and chainshot for mini boss's

[stoic sleet]

As i got later into the game i used ssg 50% of the time but at the start i used it 90% of the time

[slim crypt]

why no respect for cycler

[tall nymph]

Ssg hits like a fucking truck so satisfying in this game

[errant mason]

Interestingly I used the cycler for the main bosses. Insane stagger build up

[harsh egret]

i love the cycler so much

[errant mason]

Cycler lightning chains were fun too

[slim crypt]

bro the lighting chains too

[orchid marten]

My issue with the ssg is that i want to try to use my arsenal as much as possible. I know its not intended that way, but thats how i have fun. The problem with the ssg is that the swap speed for it is so insanely slow that it gets me killed more then it helps because i cant swap guns with it

[cunning shale]

I’m gonna try a bit of Warhammer 40k vermintide

[harsh egret]

yeap

[tall nymph]

I'd still rather have eternals ssg though - imagine TDA shield + meathook 😭

[terse hollow]

I'll have to try that

[slim crypt]

peak and darktide

[orchid marten]

When you shoot the ssg its like at least 2 seconds where you cannot swap your guns. Its so clunky

[errant mason]

Also accurate at range, faster projectile, big ammo pool

[orchid marten]

Just kinda gets me out of my flow when i use it

[paper jay]

GUTS, HUGE GUTS

[cunning shale]

Darktide is really good co op multiplayer but I got sick of the grind and it.

[errant mason]

The weapon swap speed is still faster than Doom 2, so it felt fast enough to me

[cunning shale]

One of 21 words spoken by doomguy. I think someone counted exactly how many words he said

[errant mason]

Also you can animation cancel the SSG reload by blocking

[paper jay]

Nice

[cunning shale]

Yeah as a non Wuxi switcher its dope

[orchid marten]

Yea but in doom 2 they made up for it by making you move pretty fast. In this game you are kinda fucked if you swap in the middle of the fight cause you cannot even use the shield

[uneven dragon]

i didnt really notice an issue most of the time

[uneven dragon]

tbh i think UAC Atlantica, Blood Swamps and The Holt is the most solid 3 level run in Eternal

[terse hollow]

Learn to duck and weave then

[errant mason]

I mean, don't get surrounded then lol

Also shield charge

[uneven dragon]

the ssg is a little bit too OP in this game but
it's a little bit too OP In every doom game tho

[river girder]

goddamn the aggadon hunter was one of the most boring boss fights I've ever played if im to be honest

[errant mason]

As it should be

[uneven dragon]

even in eternal (people deny this but it is true) you can use it like 90% of the time without issue

[river girder]

I literally stood still for 70% of the fight

[terse hollow]

Yeah thats one of the things I like about the chainshot is the ammo pool when its fully upgraded. Good to know i won't miss out on that

[errant mason]

I like it. Marauder 2.0

[terse hollow]

Doesnt really seem like ammo is ever an issue in tda for any weapon though

[orchid marten]

Its not just that, for example the very first fight in belly of the beast you get sniped by charged shots from everywhere. Not having your shield up for even a second can get you killed so so easily

[slim crypt]

exactly how i felt

[river girder]

I wouldn't really say so
maurader was at least engaging
aggadon hunter I literally just stood still, side stepped the goofy skull attacks by like, 2 metres, rinse and repeat until he starts some green attacks

[uneven dragon]

so dont swap immediately

[lament grove]

guys am i fucked i think im softlocked the barriers wont go down after clearing the enemies in defend the command station

[slim crypt]

he was aggressive for me idk what difficulty u on

[river girder]

ultra violence

[delicate stirrup]

The Pinky and Cacodemon look like they're inspired by Doom 4 concept art

[uneven dragon]

maybe theres something youre meant to grab idk

[slim crypt]

i mean uv is pretty easy on tda

[uneven dragon]

Cacodemon looks like the Doom 3 Cacodemon the most
with a touch of Doom 64's

[hollow sandal]

It was satisfying if anything

[lament grove]

objective marker is past the barrier unfortunately

[river girder]

it was boring

[cunning shale]

Honestly a Party game that is just destroying shit in atlan mechs with some obstacles. Godzilla style.

Man the physics makes me gasm

[slim crypt]

aggadon hunters in tda are top tier to me

[velvet elbow]

I hope we get something like cloud gaming for steam, would help solve some spec issues people have

[terse hollow]

We need a pacific rim game

[marble copper]

if they made different pvp modes for 2016 and eternal, will they make something for dark ages too?

[slim crypt]

hopefully horde mode

[river girder]

the aggadon fight was so damn easy

[terse hollow]

Titanfall 3 will never come to be so something needs to take its place

[slim crypt]

bump it to nightmare then?

[river girder]

I doubt that would really change the flow of the fight

[velvet elbow]

I really just want a co-op story. Double the demons

[slim crypt]

lmao you think anything will take titanfalls place?

[river girder]

and the main game has enough bs going on as is

[velvet elbow]

Then alter the game to make the fight fun for you

[inner wigeon]

YESSSS

[terse hollow]

No. But one can hope 😂

[paper jay]

[slim crypt]

i mean there’s literally an enemy aggression tab you toggle to ur liking?

[orchid marten]

But thats the issue. The ssg doesnt feel responsive because i go in with the ssg, oneshot something and then im forced to like disengage just to swap my gun. It doesnt feel great

[velvet elbow]

You have the sliders, use them damn it

[orchid marten]

And i dont wanna just use the ssg only, thats not fun

[errant mason]

The Agaddon Hunters are easy one on one. It's when there's other bullshit to deal with they can get tricky

[cunning shale]

Yeahhhh and like I thought not for me. Space marine 2 is more my speed

[errant mason]

But you can kill them in like 4 seconds with the dread mace

[hollow sandal]

Hugo pleewaaase 😭

[terse hollow]

Sm2 is pretty good, just really sucks because sometimes you'll be disconnected at the victory screen after a 35 minute match

[slim crypt]

excited for space marine 3

[delicate stirrup]

Also the lack of Hell Razers disappoints me.

[hollow sandal]

Spice Marine!

[terse hollow]

They at least fixed it so when you're disconnected at the victory screen now you still get the xp

Most of the time that is

[cunning shale]

I never got into the multiplayer but the campaign was really fun. Very usually impressive too. Fun story.

I actually rented the game bc I’m poor.

[cunning shale]

Dude fuck that

Yeah the game was glitchy. It was also annoying I just wanted to play the campaign but I’d have a squad and kept trying to get me to connect online

[terse hollow]

It should be on gamepass, id give the operations a go since they follow the story directly. Every time another squad gets mentioned thats another operation for mp

[cunning shale]

I hate those pseudo offline modes. At least you could pause

[terse hollow]

Pvp is ass. Don't bother with that though

[calm hinge]

Hey I have a question.i am on chapter 8 rn and i am at the part where you get the yellow key but the gate will not open at all i have been soft locked there for 3 days

[terse hollow]

Look up a guide. Its always some puzzle you missed or something lmao

[calm hinge]

Ight ty

[cunning shale]

Space marine 2? No it’s not. Darktide and vermintide 2 yeah they are on gamepass played like 30 hours multiplayer only ofc but had my fill. Fun and hard. Not a fan of melee.

I just plaurd like 15 minutes and like i thought vermintide 2 just isn’t for me.

[molten island]

This game is actually pretty fun , It deff has the old doom vibes with pick ups and the fast pace part

[terse hollow]

Huh I thought it was. I bought it for the season pass and skins so I wasn't sure

[cunning shale]

Which one

[terse hollow]

Unfortunate

[molten island]

The dark ages @cunning shale

[cunning shale]

Warhammer darktide and vermintide 2 is

[molten island]

I've been playing doom 2 and doom 3 in VR lately

[cunning shale]

Dark ages has PvP?

[molten island]

Not doom 2 In VR haha

[cunning shale]

Doom 3 would be lit in vr*

I’m tired and in pain rip

[molten island]

I don't think so , I know doom 3 mod for VR is awesome and runs good

[paper jay]

Oh god..

[cunning shale]

I need an oxy

[molten island]

It's called the doom 3 BFG mod

[cunning shale]

That pun wasn’t intentional.

[molten island]

Lol

[cunning shale]

Oxycodone is gods medicine

[calm hinge]

So I looked it up and it said it opens atomically

[cunning shale]

Fentanyl is amazing too

[orchid marten]

Isnt there a doom vr game?

[cunning shale]

Doom 3

[molten island]

Yes there is but it's from 2017

[orchid marten]

Ah so its probably bad

[cunning shale]

Fuck Nintendo

Increasing games yet again. For fucks sake just sell as dlc and let the suckers buy it. Sigh.

[terse hollow]

This isn't said enough

[cunning shale]

It’s really not. You can be amazing and horrible at the same time. Hence Nintendo

[orchid marten]

Nintendo hasnt been same for a long long time

They are just milking their most valuable characters rather then spending some time making new good games

[cunning shale]

Nintendo always has been this way. When their doing well they act like a bad monopoly and when their struggling their pro consumer.

Nintendo really hasn’t changed they do go through cycles though.

[cunning shale]

So like Nintendo has always done

If anything the later Wii and Wii U area were the most unoriginal with sooooooo many 2d platformers.

[hard thistle]

Nintendo peaked during the wii era tbh

[orchid marten]

The games they made were at least somewhat fresh. As of now, the games they make are literally the exact same thing over and over again. Back then this was fine because there was still alot for them to experiment with. Now its just dry but they keep doing it

[cunning shale]

Eh GameCube was the best games and the console didn’t suck at other things.

The switch 2 is probably gonna be the best overall Nintendo console since GameCube.

[orchid marten]

Personally the Wii U was my favorite nintendo console so far. It was just really cool being able to play on like the screen pad thing. + There were some good games on it like splatoon and such

[cunning shale]

The Wii was great as a cultural phenomenon and I had the console as a slightly older kid and liked it but it wasn’t a good console. It was a good toy

[cunning shale]

I can see that. But then isn’t the switch that but way better?

[celest inlet]

Hey everyone, as a nightmare enjoyer for eternal I just finished first UV campaign in DA, any resources fo advanced combos in this one? (Sry to randomly pop up in another discussion)

[orchid marten]

No, because its not original anymore. Thats exactly what i meant. They just do the same thing over and over

[cunning shale]

It has most of the good Wii U ports.

[orchid marten]

The Wii U was so cool cause it was something new and fresh for the market. Switch is just an upgrade but nothing new

[cunning shale]

Well it’s fully portable that’s original. Not a handheld but portable console if the difference makes sense

And I think it is. Switch is definitely it perfected. But prior to the switch nobody was doing portable AAA gaming. Handheld was the realm of stuff like the 3ds that was so different and phones.

[orchid marten]

Yea but it being portable doesnt really change the experience. its still the same thing

[mental gate]

switch was also pretty unique at the time. dockable portables werent very popular, and the ones that could do it didnt use it as a selling point. detachable controllers were also very cool and unique

[cunning shale]

Depends on if you’re into playing not virtually tethered to your tv. If you don’t care then it’s not and I get that.

And the switch for that reason isn’t an ideal tv console

[mental gate]

also being a good console is more important than having gimmicks

[cunning shale]

Tbh I think the switch lite is the best switch overall. Given is value and size. I mean at the time not now ofc.

[paper jay]

[cunning shale]

The switch 2 will be a lot less aids on a 4k tv at least.

I got a used switch lite some years back cheap for Pokémon lol. It was like $120 with a case.

[mental gate]

I doubt its hitting 4k in the vast majority of titles though. still, upscaled 4k is better than 1080 on a 4k display

[cunning shale]

Agreed which is why one call the wii a good console but toy. Amazing party machine like a toy. I don’t think portable is a gimmick.

[orchid marten]

To me it was a great console. I grew up in a household where people would actually fight over the TV. Me being able to take the Wii U and just sit on the couch and still play was great for me at the time. Probably the reason why i like it so much

[mental gate]

the switch does that but better lol

[cunning shale]

No but neither is the series x.

I didn’t say it wouldn’t be soft or that I’d reach native 4k or even upscalled 4k in most games just it’s less aids.

As in it’s gonna look decent enough for Nintendo games I can just enjoy it on console if they’re that kinda game like Zelda.

[dark thunder]

i stg the second level is bugged for me with the shield throw

[mental gate]

I didnt say anything about what you did or didnt say, i was just making an original statement.

[cunning shale]

So did I. The most family fun was the Wii. Toys aren’t bad. I had a ton of fun with legos as a kid for a longggg time my longest toy.

Never any action figures or doll houses. Lego’s were my shit.

[cunning shale]

True.

The Wii U was less underpowered relative to the time than the switch 1. Although the third party ports stopped happening since the console stopped selling. Sold like garbage which apparently doesn’t sell well.

Unless its fromsoft

[winter vault]

The Wii U was ahead of its time. Nintendo has done some interviews and said their new Gameshare mode on Switch and Switch 2 is based on the Wii U screen casting tech. I hope that means they finally bring back games like Nintendo Land.

[cunning shale]

And it sucked bc of it. The switch was also ahead of its time but not so much that it turned out half baked.

The console is also kinda janky.

[tepid verge]

Is the Beserker achievement broken? I fulfilled the requirements and i still didn’t get it. Im on ps5 if that’s helpful

[cunning shale]

Oxy and Valium taken

[snow hinge]

It's borked on all platforms

For most people it doesn't pop but then I had it pop loading into a level, I don't even have all the melee/shield upgrades

[honest vortex]

It seems to be DOOM in general where the SSG is just extremely OP

Look at DOOM II and 64 even

Also Doom 3 expansions seem to have an absurdly strong SSG

[tepid verge]

Do you remember what level? I’m really pissed off about it so anything could be helpful

[honest vortex]

One shotting Bruisers with Artifact mode on with the SSG was something else

[honest vortex]

Idk. I quite like em.

He's "sortaaaa" ike Marauder, but significantly cooler and better looking

[snow hinge]

For me it was ||City Of Ry'uul|| but I already finished it on this save, I was just going back to 100% that chapter

I haven't seen anyone else talk about randomly getting it, just not unlocking, so YMMV

[tepid verge]

Oh alright, thanks anyways

[honest vortex]

The two plasma rifles feel kinda useless. Ngl

[calm hinge]

I am still stuck on the same part the gate still won’t open

[honest vortex]

Can't say I agree

Going back to Eternal after TDA made me like Eternal less.

[tawdry crypt]

question, can doom guy breathe under water with his suit on

[honest vortex]

Wait you like 2016 more than Eternal as well?

Noice

[teal kestrel]

I'm about done with these dark ages bugs. I'm trying to 100 percent chapter 20, but the level to open the sewer lid is already pulled and it's closed. HOW DO I FIX THIS?!

[honest vortex]

Do you mean without his suit on?

[lofty hull]

Probably

[tawdry crypt]

no, i clearly said with

[rugged hill]

Yknow what I love about dark ages? It kinda feels and looks like Doom 64.

[tawdry crypt]

fr

[cunning shale]

I think we can all agree Hugo Martin is dope

[rugged hill]

Doom 64 is my favorite of the sprite based games so

[tawdry crypt]

i love how they gave a reason for the ssg to not have a reload

[honest vortex]

The 2nd half definitely.

The first half isn't very D64-like though

[tawdry crypt]

lever action double barrels baby

[cunning shale]

Such an underrated doom aesthetically.

[tepid verge]

It’s apparently unlocked in game in the Milestones, but it doesn’t seem to detect it on PlayStation. That’s weird.

[cunning shale]

The first half the game is far worse than the second

[rugged hill]

That last level is straight out of doom 64

[rugged hill]

Its a perfect balance between horror and action

[honest vortex]

In terms of vanilla products. 64's my favorite of the classic games.

Best aesthetics, atmosphere, designs, best and punchiest sound effects and weapons, coolest Hell maps, and most consistent level design.

[astral quail]

what do i do for this side mission where to get a ruby theres these pink dog holograms making a wall around it

[rugged hill]

I think the best hell maps were doom 3

Doom 3 hell dont fuck around.

[honest vortex]

I was meaning for the classic DOOMs, not in general.

Though you could call DOOM 3 a classic DOOM I suppose

[celest inlet]

Any reason to use any weapon other than SSG/RL/CS?

[split saddle]

find dog statues around the area and destroy them

[split saddle]

style points

[celest inlet]

It’s not devil may cry bro 😂

[split saddle]

[honest vortex]

Is that a challenge?

[split saddle]

i am challenge

[surreal nymph]

Fun

Upgrading the other weapons makes them useful in different situations as well

[celest inlet]

I mean in UN you need the dominant strat to survive

[honest vortex]

Having style and individuality in skill expression will always be sick and fun in a Vidya gaem

[split saddle]

"dominant strat this, dominant strat that" bro u are the doomguy, punch the demons

[surreal nymph]

Sure but I feel like especially in dark ages the weapons are useful enough to validate using any of them in situations where you could use one or the other

[honest vortex]

Anyway. I probably agree, unless Cosmic Realm counts

[celest inlet]

Dude I came from eternal where quick switch between right weapons can make difference in life or death lmao

[honest vortex]

Do you all think 2016 and Eternal are much better and more fun than the first half of Dark Ages?

[celest inlet]

Im still a newbie in dark ages I’m just gathering infos u kno

[surreal nymph]

having played all 3 and being almost done with dark ages I don’t think any one of them is more fun than the other

They all play differently and I love all of them as individual games

Dark ages is becoming my favorite very quickly though

[split saddle]

no, doom 2016 is slow with the pistol and doom eternal is an ammo poverty simulator

[honest vortex]

I mean overall Dark Ages is my favorite.

But I do think the first half of Dark Ages is much weaker than 2016 IMO.

[celest inlet]

Like, best to do a parry with full upgraded RL or CS stuff

[honest vortex]

Don't get me wrong. I like the first half of Dark Ages. It's just not "incredible" or "special" until the 2nd half

[surreal nymph]

Lowkey I love parrying into reaver chainshot

Makes me feel like I’m actually throwing hands w the bigger demons

[split saddle]

chainshot, switch to RL to gain back health after parry

[celest inlet]

Bro sekiro is my fav game evah so I’m absolutely loving the parry shit

[celest inlet]

When u close

[surreal nymph]

When I do my nightmare playthough I’m gonna turn down the parry window to as low as I can

[celest inlet]

Still not getting how to do a quick switch tho

[honest vortex]

Chasing fodder every 2 minutes to be locked in a bootlegged reload animation was such a huge flow breaker.

You basically have infinite ammo in Eternal but it was done in a way where you have to chase down fodder and watch the same cutscene you've seen a million times.

[surreal nymph]

You dont really quick switch in this game its not like eternal in the sense you need to juggle your weapons 80 times a second

[split saddle]

i would say quick switch when u know the timing of a demon falter

[celest inlet]

But u have time to breathe with chainsaw

[honest vortex]

We already have glory kills for that

[celest inlet]

The way they blended glory kills in this one is absolutely stunning fr

They are much more flowing

[honest vortex]

Even though Dark Ages is probably my new favorite....I do admit I wish you can quick swap combo like you can in DOOM 2016, Shadow Warrior 3, and DOOM Eternal

[snow pewter]

Anyone find a Codex entry for this game's Praetor Suit?

[celest inlet]

Nah bro thats cheating

[honest vortex]

Yeah. I hope they let you disable all the slow mos in a future update though

[celest inlet]

U a quake pro? Cos I def need that lil breather lol

[pallid wing]

Just got to the green place

[honest vortex]

He saved DOOM 2016 from being Call of DOOM.

He's a true hero

[pallid wing]

Ryuul

[honest vortex]

Nah. Quake's pretty cool, but I got into DOOM much more

[celest inlet]

But u can switch up game speed right?

[teal kestrel]

I'm trying to 100 percent chapter 20 but the lever to enter the sewers is already pulled but the door is still shut. This literally softlocks me at 90 percent. Has anybody else experienced this?

[honest vortex]

Still doesn't remove the slow mo on melees and parries

I know there's a mod to remove them....but like I cry in console unfortunately

[celest inlet]

I mean turn down that ritalin stuff bro 😂😂

[honest vortex]

I don't even want to make the game speed max, I just think the slow mos ruin the flow a bit 😂.

I been playing 110% speed.

[celest inlet]

Got what u sayin m8

[honest vortex]

Does the vast majority like Eternal more than Dark Ages?

I keep seeing Eternal beat Dark Ages in polls, and MoistCriitikal as well as SkillUp for example says Dark Ages is good but doesn't hold a candle to Eternal or even 2016.

[celest inlet]

For now I don’t, eternal is harnessing the flow state both with music and gameplay

[celest inlet]

Which is unmatched for now

But this one is pretty cool nonetheless

[astral quail]

i like dark ages more honestly

[dire prism]

just finished my first tda playthrough, SO FUCKING PEAK

[celest inlet]

On a controller as I play is pretty hard to go beyond super gore nest UN master lvl still

[dire prism]

same honestly

although tbf thats probably cause i played eternal too much

[frank turtle]

Dark ages feels more like doom to me

[dire prism]

felt the same when eternal came out and i tried going back to 2016, same thing happened with this game

[celest inlet]

2016 doesn’t have MH tho which is a biiiiig no for me

[short plinth]

I need that shield parry sound injected into my veins

[celest inlet]

Sekiro vibes

[tranquil dew]

Bro how long is chapters 19-22 this game feels forever lmao

[short plinth]

chapter 5 alone took me about 2 1/2 hours to complete

[hollow sandal]

HUGE framedrops at chapter 9. Ridiculous man 😭

[split gate]

Perfect for replayability

[tribal patrol]

i like dark ages more than eternal, but it doesnt have enough content for me to go back to it yet, i go back to eternal for that fast paced arcadey feel

[agile sonnet]

Just got the shield rune (first one)... what exactly does it do? I can't tell

[short plinth]

linearly interrupts enemies

[agile sonnet]

ooh-

sounds badass

[tawdry crypt]

doom the dark ages has been out for a week now, right

[dire prism]

Definitely a 1000/10 rating for me (holy IDsoftware glaze but it’s deserved)

[short plinth]

EA

[tawdry crypt]

no, id software

[tepid tendon]

We don’t say that name here son

[short plinth]

TDA has been out a week for EA people

EA = Early Access btw

[dire prism]

6-8 days depending on if you count early access

[tawdry crypt]

then just say that

[earnest swift]

I think part of it is just it being new. People tend to be resistant to new things in media for some reason.

[tawdry crypt]

so people with early access are able to play the full game, right

[hot lava]

Wew

[tawdry crypt]

and even then its already been out for five days

[tepid tendon]

dayum

[tawdry crypt]

the doom fandom wiki needs to step they game up, unless there's a better doom wiki that i can use that has the dark ages stuff added already

[short plinth]

well, Doom Eternal had a lot of bugs at launch

Covid was a benefactor to that

[tawdry crypt]

i went to look for every weapon in the dark ages to find those two bolt guns, and fandom didnt even have them listed yet

[dire iris]

hey @everyone l need help on a challenge

[tawdry crypt]

why would you ping me dude, thats fucking mean

[hot lava]

Don’t try to ping 123k members please

[tawdry crypt]

how dare you

anyway time to find a better doom wiki with tda stuff added already

[short plinth]

yikes

Pinging the equivalent to a quarter of the population of Wyoming

[dire iris]

i need help on this challenge please

[hot lava]

Spit it out

[tawdry crypt]

doomwiki.org you never disappoint

[short plinth]

I just got to HELL in TDA

Hope I don't run into spectres

[snow pewter]

The only knock I have against The Dark Ages is performance and even that is a nitpick at best

[astral quail]

dark ages does too, especially if ur on pc for most people lol

[dire iris]

challenge exterminator 0-5 kill 3 or more fodder demons with a single shield throw 5 times

[short plinth]

I hope id implements a fast travel thing in a future patch

[boreal locust]

Would the dark lord be unstoppable with the heart of argent?

[ebon stirrup]

DID ID INCLUDE A MYHOUSE.WAD REFERENCE IN MY DOOM GAME???

[surreal nymph]

How do I get the shield pfp deco

[hot lava]

expired quest, sorry bud

[surreal nymph]

shit, thanks anyways dawg

[tepid tendon]

How could Id include something in your game

[olive canopy]

So I’m doing a Pandemonium playthrough as a first playthrough, I got one life sigil at chapter 13… 9 more chapters

[boreal locust]

Collect 2 more and you’re good to go

[short plinth]

remember what hugo essentially said

"Mods are canon"

[hot lava]

in the multiverse they would be yeah

[boreal locust]

Is he even stronger than Prince Ahzrak?

[short plinth]

Dark Lord is just a marauder, but with extra steps

[hot lava]

is it a pun on being a tits and ass man, "Ass Rack"?

[boreal locust]

What

Ohh

Is he even stronger than him tho

[surreal nymph]

You guys should lowkey make a DOOM server tag that people can wear

[boreal locust]

Dark lord Vs Enhanced Ahzrak who wins

[hot lava]

it is an experiemtnal feature not supported on big servers atm

[olive canopy]

I did, used them

[surreal nymph]

Damn, maybe in the future

[ebon stirrup]

I wonder where the events of myhouse.wad fit in the timeline

[hot lava]

F4 is your best mate

[boreal locust]

2 more again

[short plinth]

hey @hot lava could you grant me image perms temporarily

i noticed something

[olive canopy]

Yeah I’ve seen that exiting quickly counters the death but I’m avoiding that

[hot lava]

DM modmail if its a server issue. I cant change perms unfortunately

[short plinth]

it's not a server issue

It's a call back in TDA

here, I'll DM you what I noticed

[hot lava]

you can post to #screenshots

[hoary heron]

btw are the characters that represent the language of the Argenta have english letter eqivlents? I know sometimes devs will actually assign letters to symbols that represent a races language. I wonder if Id did the same?

[flint perch]

Depends on how you view davoth (dark lord) and doomguy power scaling

[boreal locust]

When was his name mentioned.. davoth

[flint perch]

In the doom eternal DLCs

[boreal locust]

I might’ve missed that then

[honest vortex]

Also apparently Sylar doesn't like DOOM Dark Ages AT ALL even though he loved Eternal

[tepid verge]

One freaking achievement. That’s all i need to platinum this game, and it doesn’t even work properly. I’m pissed. I guess I’ll wait for a patch of some sort

[boreal locust]

What is the achievement

[tepid verge]

Beserker. Get every shield, shield rune, and melee upgrades

[boreal locust]

Yoh didn’t miss any upgrade?

[inner wigeon]

Dark lord probs. Eternal slayer has a load more experience and the dark lord can just do more

[tepid verge]

In game it shows that I completed it, but playstation doesn’t detect it

[honest vortex]

Maybe though. Sylar doesn't like Eternal AT ALL.

Hmmmp who was a big Eternal fanboy seems to hate Dark Ages.

UndertheMayo, even though he loves Dark Ages and prefers it combat over Eternal's, he thinks Eternal's a better game overall.

MuricanEagle loves Dark Ages actually, but he loves Eternal more.

[tepid verge]

I have a screenshot of it

[hot lava]

Yes known issue atm sorry it didn’t work out

[simple mist]

Hmmmp had a bad take tbu

[boreal locust]

Damn.. hope there’ll be patch soon enough

[simple mist]

Its fine to not like tda;however,comparing it to eternal constantly is unfair.

[tepid verge]

It really sucks, but all i can do is wait for a patch

[boreal locust]

If I were you I’d try absolutely anything to get it working like deleting and reinstalling

[honest vortex]

Eternal STILL has a ton of bugs tbh

Dark Ages, despite being in its early state feels much less buggy than even Eternal's current state.

[boreal locust]

Or resetting console

Or anything else possible to do

[tepid verge]

Not worth the effort tbh. I could just restart from another save, but I’m exhausted from the game after just completing it

[honest vortex]

Ya love to see it. Especially since haters were saying this game is selling worse and having a much lower initial population than Eternal

[boreal locust]

Do it in another save but make yourself literally invincible & speed up the game

[honest vortex]

Does Hmmmp even hate TDA, or is he pretending to hate it for "funny content"?

[hot lava]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE STEAM NUMBERS???!!!

[white temple]

Restart ur entire progress then it would be fun

[hot lava]

https://tenor.com/view/балдёж-класс-имба-весело-лайк-gif-14918847556827868253

[odd peak]

I'm stuck on the 2nd level @ "Defend Hebeth"/"Locate the source of the corruption" there's a spot I'm gonna guess is about 1/2 way thru the level where you're in some air vents, you climb up 2x and there's a map marked door to exit from the vents with monsters on the other side, but I cannot get this door to open

[short plinth]

@hot lava look in #screenshots

[tepid verge]

Maybe. I’ll try that sometime if a patch doesn’t come at all

[honest vortex]

Sylar was talking about how shallow and overpowered TDA is compared to Eternal.

He said he has NO hope for the game's current state at all

[boreal locust]

A patch sure will come but for the time being until it comes.. try anything else possible.. most obvious thing to do now is to do the trophy in another save

Best of luck man

[honest vortex]

Wait no fuck.

I meant to say Sylar doesn't like The Dark Ages AT ALL

[honest vortex]

Sylar loved Eternal

[urban compass]

Un run number 2 lost because of a cyberdemon

I really hate those mfs

[simple mist]

I cant tell honestly.

[short plinth]

I'm playing TDA blind on UV btw

[odd peak]

I'm only part way thru the 2nd level of TDA and so far it's been enjoyable if not a little on the "Spam random controller input @ monsters" heavy, previous titles relied less on this mechanic in favour of actual technical ability

[frosty dagger]

i heard a lot of ppl say about dark ages that it's less brutal then the previous games, why do people say that?

[odd peak]

But it's got a bangin OST and poppin uglies is fun

[uneven dragon]

Wdym by brutal

[celest inlet]

I kinda like how they plained the field between controllers and keyboards, in DE u need LOTS of keys to perform as you should do

[frosty dagger]

i've noticed that most who criticize the game name that as a point that it's less brutal

[odd peak]

Exactly, as I pointed out that earlier titles relied more on actual technical ability to play the game, not just spam controller input until evertything is dead 😛

[teal kestrel]

Y'all I have one more trophy until the Platinum. I need to complete each mastery challenge. What level is best for that?

[celest inlet]

But weapon switch is soooooo friggin cool man

[odd peak]

Now if I could just get out of this muvfuxn duct/air vent

[honest vortex]

Nvm. He doesn't like it:
https://youtu.be/IPzZE9mGee8?si=YztSYdTv2LvRTFBe

It feels like most of the Eternal DOOM tubers hate Dark Ages for some reason

[frosty dagger]

why does it matter if some random ahh youtubers hate dark ages

[celest inlet]

And on higher difficulties u need to know which keys u r pressing

[honest vortex]

Also MoistCritikal seemed disappointed with Dark Ages even though he liked it

[honest vortex]

Said it was vastly worse than Eternal and 2016, but still good

[odd peak]

I'd L ❤️ VE to continue playing the game but I'm stuuuuuck

[celest inlet]

But as a fuking n00b as I am higher master lvls are close to impossible lmao

[celest inlet]

Talking nightmare difficulty ofc

[honest vortex]

Sylar loved Eternal but doesn't like Dark Ages at ALL

because he feels it's extremely shallow in combat depth and you're way too Overpowered compared to Eternal

[odd peak]

What? Not trying the new Pandemonium ? XD

[honest vortex]

Sylar is like the TECH MASTER of Eternal.

So the fact he hates Dark Ages is kinda crazy

[celest inlet]

AAAAAHHHHH CHILL DUDE STILL LEARNING 😂😂😂

[odd peak]

XD XD

I'm really digging the shredder so far

[celest inlet]

But I feel I have an higher ceiling with this one on controller

[odd peak]

brings back Wolf3D chaingun fun vibes

"YYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! [Mugshot goes evilface]"

Also karma+++++++++ whoever on dev decided to include classic mugshot

much respect

[uneven dragon]

yeah but do they mean "easier" or "less gorey"

[simple mist]

I know underthemayo and horde mode loved it

[uneven dragon]

fym "post void clone" 😭

[uneven dragon]

underthemayo was a surprising one but a welcome one

[simple mist]

The whole "doom tda sucks because its not eternal" critisism is stupid.

[uneven dragon]

oh you're baiting

master baiter in chat

[celest inlet]

💀💀💀💀

[simple mist]

Thats like saying "kingdom hearts 2 sucks because its not kingdom hearts 1."

[odd peak]

I think this "less brutal" is people describing what I mentioned re: spamming input, the old titles were more engaging and required skill and practice to excel at, this new title feels more laid back, you can just kick back and spam input until everyhting is dead, there's less to it

[celest inlet]

That is like saying the witcher 3 suks because it’s not the 2

[simple mist]

LOOLOOOOOLOOOOL9OOLL

[odd peak]

lmfao

[honest vortex]

UndertheMayo also thought Dark Ages had more fun and deeper combat than Eternal, but thought Eternal's a better game overall

[simple mist]

[honest vortex]

Which is interesting considering Sylar thinks Dark Ages is extremely shallow and repetitive compared to Eternal in combat depth

MuricanEagle loves Dark Ages though

[odd peak]

Eternal had WAY better, fast paced, intense combat

I've yet to come up against anything even close in TDA

[uneven dragon]

idk if the older titles (doom 1-3) were much more than what you're saying for TDA

you can't just blindly spam in TDA

[odd peak]

If the rest of the game just continues to be "drop in to/enter new room/area, spam controller input until everyhting is dead, proceed, lather rinse repeat" I'll be disappointed, and relieved I played it on gamepass instead of having to return/sell a purchased copy

[honest vortex]

What is interesting to me is UndertheMayo is the only Eternal YouTuber calling Dark Ages combat more fun and deeper than Eternal's

[uneven dragon]

THE MODS ARE GONNA THINK YOURE FR </3

[celest inlet]

I mean they are just different imo, eternal is peak flow fps TDA is different, they understood that they cannot best that so they went a different way

[thorny cipher]

Yeah, you gotta be methodical! Swift, yet brutal, clean, but chaotic, like going from blindly smashing your hands on the keys to a piano, to actually putting the right fingers on the right keys!

[lament lotus]

I think what TDA does really well is giving so many options that everyone's playstyle has a chance to shine.

[odd peak]

So how dafuq am I supposed to progress from my current position? Do I have to restart the level and hope for the best? Maybe make some burnt offerings to some higher power? Should I grab the chloroform and go find some fentanyl junkie to sacrifice to Bethesda?

[thorny cipher]

In Eternal, you’re like a fighter jet, in TDA you’re an iron tank

— Actual words from the devs

[terse hollow]

Eternal didn't have a playable atlan

[thorny cipher]

Or a dragon

[real crater]

those spectre stalker imps are anti-tank missiles cuz they always bitch slap you without you knowing

[celest inlet]

BULLSHIT

[terse hollow]

Meh the dragon chapters felt a little uneventful

[thorny cipher]

Those mfs ain’t camouflaging SHIT

[thorny cipher]

It’s facts. They said it

[honest vortex]

UndertheMayo and MuricanEagle are probably the only DOOM tubers who didn't think Dark Ages was a disappointment and huge downgrade from 2016 and Eternal

[celest inlet]

They lying bro, I feel like u can go in front of an horde in eternal and in this u cannot

[celest inlet]

Fuken energy shield of chaingun+ballista+SSG

[lament lotus]

You can always see their eyes. Keep a look out for floating white spots.

[real crater]

shield throw can easily wipe any fodder demon horde when upgraded

[celest inlet]

Bro im talking heavy mfers

[terse hollow]

The shield throw almost feels a little to op sometimes

[odd peak]

With that logic at play, look @ wargaming.net titles. World of Warplanes (eternal/fighter jet) vs. World of Tanks (TDA, tank) WoT is full of sweaty tryhard squeakers and P2W mommy or daddys credit card trust fund slackers

[celest inlet]

Who cares bout fodders

[terse hollow]

Was the first thing I upgraded lol

[uneven dragon]

i get what he meant by this but its funny that they had an actual fighter jet equivalent in TDA

[real crater]

yep but i can tell they will end many ultra nightmare runs

[terse hollow]

I don't know what you're talking about...

[lament lotus]

Fully upgraded cycler affects fodders if you kill a heavy first.

[celest inlet]

BUT im so glad they nerfed cyber macubus, absolute worst nightmare in eternal

[real crater]

theres a cyber mancubus in this game?

[odd peak]

AFK - starting a 3d print

[real crater]

i didnt see any cybers there are armored mancubi but those arent cybers

[terse hollow]

Pov doom 2028, the doom slayer is no longer a guy for some reason

[hard thistle]

This game lacks woke 0/10

[lament lotus]

The slowdown effects of mancubi and vagary acid have a habit of obliterating your health, even on ultra-violence.

[violet lynx]

r_raytracedreflections 0; r_waterReflections 0; r_raytracedReflectionsWater 0; r_raytracedReflectionsTemporalUpscaleQuality 0; r_skipcinelensflares 1; r_skipflares 1; r_skipfog 1; r_hdrBloom 0; r_blurRadial 0; r_blurVignette 0; r_dof 0

[plain iron]

Counter argument. He's always been a trans dude

[real crater]

i only have done 1 playthrough on hurt me plenty i'll make sure the next one is uv

[terse hollow]

God damnit bobby

[real crater]

i just finished it today

[lament lotus]

Yeah

Nice.

TDA was such a good power fantasy that it gave me the confidence to change my life for the better.

[real crater]

the final fights were definitely better than the dark lord

[terse hollow]

It finally give you the motivation to rip the heart out of the last person to betray you?

[celest inlet]

I mean cybers are armored if u not that peaky

[earnest swift]

Sylar not liking "Eternal" is surprising tbh.

[real crater]

mayo likes dark ages combat better than eternal?

[earnest swift]

Personally I think "Dark Ages" is really good but parts of its philosophy (weapon balancing and its unique emphasis on push-forward combat) need to be left with it.

[lament lotus]

I mean... figuratively? I quit my job that was taking advantage of me. Already got a better one lined up.

That's for the confidence boost, Doomguy

[simple mist]

YEPPPIEEE

[lament lotus]

Anyway, huge props to The Dark Ages for making me deliberately want to use the rocket launcher. It's always been my least used weapon across the Doom saga, but TDA makes me look forward to using it.

[real crater]

im the opposite i used the rocket launcher everywhere else in the doom series except thhe dark ages

[lament lotus]

I used it in the other two games of the modern trilogy just to get the masteries for them because I'm a nerd who likes to 100% games on every playthrough.

[celest inlet]

I thought puns in eternal wiped out already from the franchise LGBTQEHTOCNEXNDKEO scums lmao

[honest vortex]

No. It's a typo.

He loves Eternal, but doesn't like Dark Ages AT ALL

[honest vortex]

He also thinks it's way too shallow and broken and repetitive compared to Eternal from a combat standpoint

[real crater]

to be fair i only used the lock on burst in the other 2 nudoom games but in classic doom it's one of the best weapons

[lament lotus]

Yeah rockets are ready good in classic doom i just don't use em often.

I do have a soft spot for remote deto in 2016 through

[celest inlet]

I miss so much lock on burst

[lament lotus]

I cannot, however, say the same for the grenade launcher. Maybe I just need to experiment with it more, I guess.

[wild rose]

Is there anyone else not getting a trophy on PS5?

[real crater]

probably wouldve been even more op in the dark ages

[wild rose]

I can't get the Berserker trophy

[celest inlet]

Yup but it was sooo cool man

RL is dealing lots of damage already

[wild rose]

The one you need to max out shield and melee

Can anyone help?

[celest inlet]

Bro the dread mace was a friggin gamechanger

[wild rose]

I know I beat the campaign twice by now and one in fake UN

[real crater]

i stuck with the flail personally it just looked cool and having 3 charges with a parry recharging 1 is wonderous

[wild rose]

Everything is maxed out in my game

[lament lotus]

You'll need to find all the shield runes first. Those count towards the achievement.

[wild rose]

But the damn trophy doesn't unlock

[junior pier]

I haven't played Doom: The Dark Ages yet, How good was it if any of you finished it already?

[wild rose]

Dude I 100% everything in the campaign. There is no upgrade to do

I got every trophy besides this one

[celest inlet]

Yeah but if u got a charge for a 1/8 of the damage is almost useless

[wild rose]

I finished it twice. 50 hours in. I want to play more. And more. There goes my 3rd playthrough

[real crater]

you just gotta get used to the combat and that takes about an entire playthrough so you'll love the game by the time you reach the last few levels even more so than you already did

[lament lotus]

Worth the purchase. The game gives you A LOT of demon-bludgeoning toys to play with that half the fun is just experimenting.

[celest inlet]

In term of style the flail is top notch tho

[junior pier]

Thanks

[celest inlet]

WEN MASTER LEVELS

[lament lotus]

I actually like the combat shotgun more than the super in this game.

[junior pier]

Frr

[wild rose]

I need to finish Pandemonic first and get the skin before caring for those

[real crater]

cant wait to start up the ultra violence playthrough now that i got the hang of combat

[lament lotus]

Master levels are gonna be insane

[wild rose]

In terms of damage it feels like rubber

[celest inlet]

Im chilling with nightmare for now lmaoo

[junior pier]

The best part of any doom is when you actually start to understand every mechanic in the game and use them.

[celest inlet]

Bro punch and flail are soooo rubber ducky compared to the mace

[wild rose]

I'll do it on nightmare. I gotta train

[wild rose]

What's the point of using them if SSG does a better melee job lmao?

[real crater]

how effective is the mace against the super heavys

[celest inlet]

Recharge time?

[torpid crane]

very

[celest inlet]

And the mace does sooooooo much more damage

[lament lotus]

A lot more combo potential with other melees. You can sneak in a punch or even a flail when up against melee demons like barons

[wild rose]

Just use impaler. It doesn't matter if you can use them more if they don't do shit

[celest inlet]

Wut?

[real crater]

i'll try to use it when i unlock it this time around

[junior pier]

Do any of you think that we are getting a different mode than master levels in the future?

[real crater]

instead of master levels do newgame+

[wild rose]

You said their advantage is recharge time, it doesn't matter I can use flair and punch more if they do nothing

[lament lotus]

It'd be cool to have a randomizer where all slayer weapon pods are shuffled (with the exception of the gauntlet and saw for balancing reasons.

[celest inlet]

Yup so mace is king

[real crater]

a demon randomizer too

it would be nice to have one built in this time around so the combat doesnt get stale due to memorizing all the spawns

[celest inlet]

That was horde mode in eternal, fuking hate that when they dont gimme SSG at lvl 1

[junior pier]

Imagine having IDStudio in Doom: the dark ages

That would be crazy

[lament lotus]

That's the beauty of randomizers. It's not about using your usual strats, it's about understanding the game enough that you can do crazy stuff with whatever the game gives you

[drowsy flame]

look im not sure where else to go as nothing is working for me the game will not launch through the gamepass it only is a background process or its stuck on loading

[honest vortex]

I mean at 6:20 Hmmmp did admit he had fun with Dark Ages, and that the Cosmic Realm was extremely fun:
https://youtu.be/IPzZE9mGee8?si=EruvMcmvayO7yu5E

But he said the combat and gimmicks are extremely basic and gets old fast.

All you do is shield bash, parry, and one shot things with the SSG

[real crater]

wasnt that dudes channel deleted

[honest vortex]

He said it's missing that Eternal and 2016 spark, even though he thought the Cosmic Realm was extremely fun.

[wild rose]

Yup

[hollow sandal]

Hmmp is fuckin cooked

[earnest swift]

I do think in general it’s too repetitive. It’s unable to really differentiate its combat loop regardless of the map or what demons it spawns.

[hollow sandal]

Don't know what tf is up with that guy

[honest vortex]

I mean tbh with you.....

I think Eternal's extremely repetitive as well....

[junior pier]

You are right but the dark ages is more like building the way you want to play, right?

[waxen dawn]

I have two discount coupons for Dark Ages. Does anyone want them?

[celest inlet]

I mean at nightmare lvl u have to strict to a specific loop, which is undoable if u don’t have the right weapons

But at lower lvls I can give u that it’s fun

[tranquil zodiac]

can we get something done about this troll?

[wild rose]

It's probably the skill ceiling. For us regular humans both are just as enjoyable. I actually prefer TDA, maybe because it's easier idk. You can only be pressed by demons if you lose your timing, but just spamming shield works

[celest inlet]

The UAC is helping with the transition

[wild rose]

Which one? The same is happening to me. Berserker trophy

[wild rose]

Oh my soul sister

[lament lotus]

Agreed. It's got a fine-tuned combat loop, but not much wiggle room outside that.

[tranquil zodiac]

this nft pfp guy was just blatantly homophobic and transphobic bruh

[celest inlet]

It’s like a formula 1 circuit that’s what I like about it

[wild rose]

It wouldn't work

[real crater]

not to be a geek but i think uo ur pronouns are against the server rules

[waxen dawn]

Haha. Sorry

[lament lotus]

The formula 1 comparasion proves my point when you take a look at how many 1st places Max Verstappen has won

[earnest swift]

Idk. If you’re at the point where you’re constantly using various quick swap combos, I could see that, but "Eternal" from an execution standpoint is far more demanding than "TDA" is, thus it is far more interesting to go through the motions with.

[potent aspen]

any1 want a steam code for the game

it came with my gpu so im giving it away 4 free

[wild rose]

How many?

[earnest swift]

You sure it’s not for a Slayer skin?

[potent aspen]

yea its the deluxe version of the game worth 80$ or smth

[earnest swift]

Alright.

[real crater]

the amount of buttons that are binded for you in both games shows the complexity

[honest vortex]

It seems to be debatable.

UndertheMayo for example thinks Dark Ages has more fun and deeper combat than Eternal.

Just a different style

[real crater]

in eternal literally every button on the controller does something but in the dark ages there's at least 3 free buttons

[wild rose]

Maybe the others didn't find out yet, or Mayo is just as human as us

[wild rose]

???

Mine doesn't

[real crater]

oh yeah theres 1 free button in eternal

[earnest swift]

More fun is subjective. I can definitely see someone preferring "TDA" over 2016 and "Eternal" despite its significant shortcomings.

[wild rose]

But in TDA?

[wild rose]

Don't forget circle is the gimmicks button

[real crater]

which one is circle im on xbox

[honest vortex]

No. He found Dark Ages combat straight up deeper as well.

But he prefers Eternal overall as a game/product.

He thinks Dark Ages is kinda uneven and inconsistent in quality

[earnest swift]

B

[wild rose]

B of ball

[lament lotus]

Look up "Max Verstappen 2024 rankings". He's top three for most of the races that year.

[earnest swift]

I saw that. I was just separating the ‘more fun’ part of it out from the rest of it.

[wild rose]

So what does this mean?

[real crater]

i cant remember if that one does anything in combat

[celest inlet]

We dont talk about god here

[celest inlet]

JK OFC

[teal kestrel]

Y'all I have one more trophy until the Platinum. I need to complete each mastery challenge. What level is best for that?

[honest vortex]

Someone said Dark Ages feels like an alternate universe version of DOOM 2016

[lament lotus]

Previous chatter compared Eternal's combat to an F1 race.

[wild rose]

I mean TDA is my fav, 16 has a better campaign than Eternal and Eternal just a better gameplay than 16

[wild rose]

I saw, but Max winning constantly mean what in the comparison?

[lament lotus]

That it's repeitive

[real crater]

technically every doom game before 2016 is an alternate universe version

[celest inlet]

I mean in F1 u need to be extremely quick to make decisions within a 2D arena, in eternal u need to be extremely quick to make decisions in a 3d arena

[real crater]

when i come back to eternal my gameplay's gonna be so bad because of the dark ages new playstyle

[charred acorn]

will TDA officially be sold in China?

[earnest swift]

Probably no

[honest vortex]

Though it does feel like the majority thinks Dark Ages is good, but a disappointment compared to Eternal and 2016.

Like what MoistCritikal said

[tranquil marsh]

Ngl I like the difficulty of Nightmare on TDA, its hard but not insanely hard like Eternal, it feels just right

[earnest swift]

Very strict market to enter.

[charred acorn]

emmmmm

[lament lotus]

2016 has my favorite aestetics and sound design of the reboot trilogy, Eternal has the best 100% game of the three, and TDA has my favorite combat.

[honest vortex]

To me Eternal's the easiest one.

I'm not sure why so many people find it so hard

[celest inlet]

That jump was only MH related imo

[real crater]

probably because they arent used to having to really think about what they're doing in shooters

[wild rose]

Best 100% ? What does this mean? You prefer the story and world building of that than from the other games?

[vagrant warren]

Does someone know why I can’t login in my Xbox account in the game

[honest vortex]

I think TDA might have topped 2016's aesthetics and sound design for once.

But 2016 has better aesthetics and sound design than the other games

[earnest swift]

Honestly I feel like my hundreds of hours with "Eternal" has completely screwed up my perception of its difficulty. I see all these people calling "Eternal" really hard and I am completely confused.

[lament lotus]

I mean I love the secret design and the balancing of item progression.

[vagrant warren]

Every time I try it says can’t login in in this time try later

[lament lotus]

Try restarting your console. The good ol' "turn it off and back on again"

[wild rose]

Secret design? Wait best 100 you're talking about completing missions? I thought 100% meant in general terms Eternal was the best

[earnest swift]

Completion presumably. Which is really funny if it includes all milestones.

[real crater]

i think the controls ui is a bit buggy theres nothing wrong with setting the binds and using them but the display can be a little funky

[vagrant warren]

I’m try on my pc and its says the same thing

[wild rose]

UN milestones were insane lmao. Thank god Eternal UN rewards sucked ass

[earnest swift]

I was referring to Battlemode.

[honest vortex]

It's just when you understand Eternal's loop, you become the most godlike and invincible version.

Dash spam, chaingun energy shield which is basically God mode, and air mobility spam, and the absurdly high pinata levels of health, armor, and ammo drops makes you unstoppable and have pretty much no tension at all even when you're almost dead.

Even Hugo Martin thought Eternal's Nightmare was the easiest Nightmare of the new DOOM games

[earnest swift]

If you want to try to win a round in less than 3 seconds of you being resurrected, feel free.

[wild rose]

that too. But completing TAG on UN is no possible task for most people

[lament lotus]

I meant completing the game at 100%. Not including milestones. Stuff like getting all the collectables, challenges, and masteries.

[wild rose]

Yeah I agree. Getting the mini map excluded the necessity of taking a YouTube guide because I had no idea where a secret was because it isn't in the map, something that happened in TDA

[earnest swift]

"TAG 2" UN is easy.

[celest inlet]

Hello I’m most people

[wild rose]

Not for everyone. I'm most people are well

[tribal patrol]

i almost did it but died to a makyr drone

[earnest swift]

By UN standards I mean.

[celest inlet]

Cos I don’t have nuff time to properly train lol

[wild rose]

You died to a walking health pack. Think about it

[earnest swift]

Base campaign is harder.

[wild rose]

I always heard TAG were the hardest for UN standards

[celest inlet]

💀💀💀

[wild rose]

How? Because it's big or because you don't have all the equipment during it?

[tribal patrol]

it did the stupid ass spin move on me when i tried to chainsaw an imp and it said "you dont have enough ammo" god i hate that so much

[real crater]

in his defense maykr drones can sneak up behind you and get a cheap melee i

[lament lotus]

Coincidentally, both 2016 and TDA have challenges where ||you have to kill two barons at once in the final level of the game||

[wild rose]

Same. The chainsaw animation on that game is insufferable. Stuff like that made me leave Eternal

[earnest swift]

"TAG 1" is the hardest campaign for UN, though nerves are far less of a problem since it’s only 3 maps. "TAG 2" is the easiest campaign by a mile because of the Sentinel Hammer and eased up demon compositions.

[real crater]

in 2016 it isnt the final level

[lament lotus]

No, it is

[real crater]

oh i thought you were talkin about bossfights my bad

[lament lotus]

The "hold still" one

[wild rose]

The chainsaw bug excuses it all

[wild rose]

Hence why you have the BFG

[tight garnet]

I just got into Chapter 18, here’s my opening thoughts:

||Are we giving Cthulhu a manual aneurysm?||

[honest vortex]

Yeah Eternal feels easy, 2016 actually feels hard as hell when you don't spam Siege mode or Rich Get Richer runes

Dark Ages is a bit inconsistent. It'll fluctuate to being easy and extremely hard randomly. Dark Ages doesn't really have a consistent difficulty.

But Dark Ages harder areas are much harder than anything in Eternal.

[wild rose]

Did you guys need the BFC anytime in TDA?

[earnest swift]

Only worth using when there’s multiple Super Heavies or a Super Heavy + a lot of Heavies.

So almost never.

[lament lotus]

I used it on the ||fakeout|| final boss purely for style points.

[tribal patrol]

one time on the last level with the vagary and komodo, was playing on 130% speed but didnt want to cheat and reduce it, cause i died like 10 times so i said fuck it

[wild rose]

I found myself using it in Eternal

[celest inlet]

Escalation encounter 2 world spear, ur argument is invalid 😂

[earnest swift]

Optional encounter.

[wild rose]

You still can just diff them with the BFG stick
I mean mace

[celest inlet]

So?

[earnest swift]

You have literally no reason to do it if you’re just going for a clear.

[celest inlet]

Aight makes sense

But thats friggin hard if u looking for a challenge

I mean triple titan and double hunter ffs

[wild rose]

The skull crusher might have destroyed them hard

[earnest swift]

Compared to encounters in its Master Level it’s swiss cheese.

Probably anyway. It’s been forever since I played "TAG 2" in full.

[tribal patrol]

i forgot that existed untill i had to fight ahzrak lol, cause i realized ssg wasnt doing jack to him

[celest inlet]

My top was super gore nest UN cant fuking do the others on controller 🥲

[wild rose]

Best option is Impaler and spam mace when you can do it safely

[celest inlet]

World spear is even unthinkable for me at UV

[tribal patrol]

yeah im gonna go for that strat when i do my UN run

[wild rose]

I sear to god I don't have an idea what level is world spear on TGA

[frosty dagger]

less gorey

i assume at least because i've heard both mentioned

[lament lotus]

Any of the slayer gates in TAG1?

[mental pulsar]