the-dark-ages

[vagrant path]

feeling like doing the game proper blind when it releases

[prime sentinel]

I won’t be able to resist personally but good luck

[autumn dawn]

oh hey egg boy

haven't seen you in a while

[sleek ermine]

oh hey frostbite

[prime sentinel]

Howdy

[shut whale]

We r getting a full trailer on Sunday at WrestleMania

[autumn dawn]

how are you two

[sleek ermine]

:D

[prime sentinel]

In bed but on here for some reason lol

[vagrant path]

DUDE SAMEEEE

[autumn dawn]

me too

[vagrant path]

It's 1 in the morning and my melatonin is kinda kicking in

[prime sentinel]

I got work tonight tho so I really need to go

[prime sentinel]

I work third shift, it’s 11 am here lol

[autumn dawn]

i like to do my phone hobbies (such as drawing, watching/reading stuff, and discording/messengering) while laying in bed

[vagrant path]

gonna be dreaming of doom and other crazy stuff my brain can come up with

[autumn dawn]

i don't remember any dreams i've had of me playing doom

[prime sentinel]

My favorite dreams are the ones where nothing super interesting happens and they just feel like alternate realities

I hate when I wake up and I just wanted to live there a little longer

[autumn dawn]

too much

info

[uneven dragon]

True

[grim cloud]

wat

oh trailer 2 comin

[hollow sandal]

Say " yes sir how can I help you?" /s

[grim cloud]

feels a little late, but ill take it

[hollow sandal]

I hope it's not toned down due to wrestlemania

[silent surge]

there’s a tv spot for wrestlemania and then a trailer online to follow

[hollow sandal]

Ok sick

I'm ready to play the dark ages now

[final dune]

Oh nice so I don't gotta sit through the thing to actually see the trailer

[unkempt thicket]

Hope they’ll upload both anyways.

[unkempt thicket]

But I think Trailer 2 will be also the TV spot itself.

(Also I hope it will make use of the game soundtrack, unlike that one TV commercial of Eternal :p)

[plain iron]

Genuinely this is the strangest trailer release I've seen in a bit 😭

Fuckin wrestlemania

[hollow sandal]

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY

BE THERRRRRE

[barren iron]

it makes a lot of sense when you think about it lmao

[plain iron]

I mean. I hope it's individually uploaded

[barren iron]

it's so fucking 90s

[plain iron]

you have a point

[heady trout]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1352904854976073768/1362827482788794448/rapidsave.com_somebody_make_this_a_mod_pls-6k7xx6b3nmte1.mp4?ex=6803cf80&is=68027e00&hm=2cad5ca4440ec88f4d0388207dac4c3baca7ef0333eb0ea14b80da40b9547ec8&

[hollow sandal]

Nani

[proud vine]

you can't leak the april fools update like that

[gilded lake]

it is

[gilded lake]

^

[plain iron]

Oh good

[wooden acorn]

I was close

April 20th

[green tusk]

Bro, i NEED to play with the megazord on dark ages

[barren iron]

called an Atlan

[green tusk]

Thx, i didn't know the name

[barren iron]

it's a great payoff after seeing a few of them in Eternal

[green tusk]

I honestly think He Will have more mission than the dragon

[fleet spruce]

iirc 4 levels?

[graceful lion]

i heard the whole game will be like 22 levels or something, but it might be less like 15 or so

apparently like 20% of the gameplay will be in the mech/dragon

[fleet spruce]

Which should be 4 or 5 levels in total if considering that it's been said that there's 22 levels

[ebon shale]

Yes, Tyler mc vicker confirmed in his Video that its 4 dragon and 3 atlan levels

[merry lion]

It'd be cool if the Baalgar demon pre cyberfication is a boss

[sterile sage]

When exactly is the trailer 2 released?

[barren iron]

On sunday after wrestlemania

[grim cloud]

As a boss, then as a regular mini boss

because doom

[proud vine]

considering they will be atleast 40 minutes per level we will have alot of time to get used to the different gameplay styles

[plain iron]

Fuckin hell.

The game is gonna be huge

[grim cloud]

hour per level i heard, but mech levels will be much shorter

unless mech levels have large portions on foot

[plain iron]

UR HUGE!!! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE GUTS RAGGHHHHH!

Mb chat

[proud vine]

that is why i said 40 minutes

maybe 30 for mechs

[ebon shale]

When the intrusive thoughts take over

[plain iron]

I say it occasionally and I like it.

[proud vine]

april is the filler month beetween march and the game's release

[plain iron]

Sounds nice to say.

[cobalt fog]

We are almost there boiz

[haughty idol]

Tyler mcvicker is not a reliable source

That guy confirms half life 3 every week

[cobalt fog]

EVERY DAY WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER

[cobalt fog]

Didn’t Hugo confirm this tho?

[merry lion]

Hunt Down the Freeman 2 confirmeds

[glad matrix]

Can I run DOOM The Dark Ages on 1660 super without a mod to disable some RTX thing?

[plucky plinth]

RTX wouldn't be able to be disabled

so no, you'll need to upgrade your GPU

[glad matrix]

And can the Dark Ages Xbox Controller armor DLC be activated on Steam? Or is it an Xbox exclusive?

Or with the DLC for Steam will there be a mouse and keyboard?

[ebon shale]

He is when the information he quoted is literally from Hugo Martin himself lmao

[graceful lion]

he says theres news for it, if you look at his videos, its a different story

tho a concept artist for valve did say he saw some people working on half life 3, from his words

[graceful lion]

its probably linked to your bethesda account

as with all skins and stuff u collected

would make sense to me atleast, and to how they normally do it

[graceful lion]

2060's are pretty cheap rn, i reccommend something like a 2070 ti tho

3060 is not much more powerful vs a 2060, better to just go for a stronger 20 series card instead, make sure it has atleast 8 gigs of vram

[haughty idol]

Literally nobody else is covering what he talks about with half life 3

If there was real news the entirety of youtube would be on it like a moth to flame

[graceful lion]

it wasnt him that said that lol

different guy

also it was a valve concept artist, from a very recent podcast

its all in russian tho

[haughty idol]

That doesnt make any sense

What would they gain from that

[graceful lion]

what

[haughty idol]

Other than being fired from one of the most prestigious video game companies

Its like basically impossible to get a job at valve

[graceful lion]

he said he saw people working on half life 3 in the office, didnt really say much else

and i feel like he probably knows his limits tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3F5IMLP_o heres the link for the podcast if you feel like going through it

gonna need to turn on captions

[slender night]

What if it's Ricochet 2...

[graceful lion]

true...

valve has been working on ricochet 2 all this time

anyways, tyler mcviker says if its speculation or not, says so on the top right of his videos, and he said that he'd do that if its speculation in one of his videos

anyways anyways, back to the topic at hand, doom tda

but you could also argue that hugo is not a reliable source either becuase he just says stuff sometimes

[hollow sandal]

Hi

[glad matrix]

I can install a mini 4060 in my MSI Trident for $300. But I'd rather buy a laptop.

[sterile summit]

Who’s doing the soundtrack for Dark Ages?

[barren iron]

Finishing Move

[barren iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqiUHIkHjBE

[sterile summit]

I hope Andrew Hulshult does something for Doom again

[sterile summit]

RTX required?

Yep, not buying it

[plucky plinth]

I suggest you upgrade anyways. Games are going that route.

[sterile summit]

With tariffs becoming as bad as they are, there’s no chance I’m doing it any time within the next 4 years

[plucky plinth]

From a developer standpoint, there's barely any reason to support 7+ year old hardware.

[sterile summit]

Steam Deck

Switch 2

People that live in poor countries or the United States

[plucky plinth]

Publisher and consumer standpoints, there is (as you described)

[sterile summit]

Like you don’t have to make it run good, but don’t force raytracing

[plucky plinth]

Developers, however, would rather not spend ages on optimizing for every single scenario of hardware from a large chunk of time.

[sterile summit]

Plus honestly I barely see a difference with raytracing other than the framerate being cut in half

[sterile summit]

I just said you don’t have to make it look good

[plucky plinth]

that takes time, and usually the publishers give said developers deadlines

[sterile summit]

Just don’t force raytracing so it runs at all

[plucky plinth]

AAA sees that as the only way to sell things to most people.

[sterile summit]

Well I’m done with AAA then

I’ll stick with my $20 masterpieces

[plucky plinth]

I'm not trying to defend it, because I'm annoyed by it as well

But that's just how the companies see it

[hollow sandal]

Yea I was about to wonder...

[sterile summit]

I’ll just wait 10 years to play it unfortunately

[plucky plinth]

and it will continue to get worse

[hollow sandal]

But yea

[summer obsidian]

Get an Xbox, they aren’t affected by tariffs

[plucky plinth]

actually, they would be

the materials needed to make them are from other countries

they'll spike in price like everything else

[summer obsidian]

Also the reason devs done support old hardware is every time they do they have to practically remake the game. It’s a little more simple than from the ground up but if u release on 3 platforms with a lot of different levels of performance that’s a lot of remakes

[hollow sandal]

Bro spits the cold hard reality like it's nothing xd

[plucky plinth]

like I suggest grabbing one now if they really still are within a reasonable range

but if they aren't already, they're probably gonna spike in price

[hollow sandal]

I don't like the hard truths 😭

[plain iron]

It's not for making it look good. There's actual gameplay things raytracing is used for..

"We also took the idea of ray tracing, not only to use it for visuals but also gameplay,"

Director of Engine Technology at id Software, Billy Khan, explains.

"We can leverage it for things we haven't been able to do in the past, which is giving accurate hit detection. [In DOOM: The Dark Ages], we have complex materials, shaders, and surfaces."

"So when you fire your weapon, the hit detection would be able to tell if you're hitting a pixel that is leather sitting next to a pixel that is metal," Billy continues. "Before ray tracing, we couldn't distinguish between two pixels very easily, and we would pick one or the other because the materials were too complex. Ray tracing can do this on a per-pixel basis and showcase if you're hitting metal or even something that's fur. It makes the game more immersive, and you get that direct feedback as the player."
-- Tweaktown interview w Billy Khan, director of Engine Technology at id Software.

Basically it's raytraced bullets

[hollow sandal]

Sick, and you can actually see a little armor icon near the reticle when you're hitting armor

[summer obsidian]

There’s a lot of Xbox’s already in the us

[plain iron]

The reason it's rtx forced is because the game actually needs it to function.

That's why a non-rtx version of TDA would act differently, or just not usable at all

[summer obsidian]

Cool use of tech tho

[warm ibex]

samur my goat

I've been telling people this for the past few months but couldn't remember where it came from. glad I'm not delusional lmao

[plain iron]

Same lmao, i had to comb through my internet history to actually find the interview

But, I'm good at finding random ass interviews so it payed off

[warm ibex]

greatly appreciated

hopefully I can explain things a bit better lol. people are always a bit hesitant to believe that ray tracing is integral to hit detection in an FPS

[summer obsidian]

It’s definitely a new and interesting use of the technology

[plucky plinth]

all I can tell is that they're using an advanced version of raycasting

[plain iron]

I honestly think it's a great use of something often viewed as a "party trick" yk

"Oh look we made [insert random game] rtx!!"

And you're like. Neat. Didn't really need that tbh, but neat. But using it as a actual gameplay mechanic is great.

[plucky plinth]

as raytracing's usually a definition strictly for rendering

[plain iron]

That's true, bcs isn't raytracing basically real time light simulation?

[plucky plinth]

yeah

[plain iron]

Throwing particles at a object w a value to tell how many particles bounce back

It's actually fucking wild that we have this technology

[plucky plinth]

tbf, they could actually be using raytracing in some weird way

at the same time, I think they just used that over the proper term (if there is one) as more people would understand it

[plain iron]

Yeah tbf. Some folk are already not exactly understanding it

[warm ibex]

I was thinking the same thing! Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems like RTX is starting to loose the charm it had amongst the general population. Not too many people care about games with unnecessary reflections and ultra realistic sunlight these days

[plucky plinth]

RTX is just a marketing term

I hate using "RTX" or "RTX On" when referring to this stuff

[plain iron]

Yup tbh, it's a party trick.

It's still awesome imo

But a party trick nonetheless

[warm ibex]

oh absolutely, having all that extra graphical detail is great. but we're not to a point where most console games can run at a high fps with tracing enabled

it's always a choice

30fps with rtx or 60fps+ with no fancy stuff. I always pick the higher framerate

[plucky plinth]

Also, here's another thing I've been thinking of lately

Raytracing is usually seen as near impossible to run (to be fair, it is taxing on the GPU)

at the same time, we've lacked an engine with that as it's primary way of rendering

so I don't think there's been a single engine with a truly optimized way of actually doing that, as it's usually thrown on

[plain iron]

Which is understandable. It's a sorta new technology, and as we've seen, folk don't want to let go of older styles of rendering

[vagrant path]

Too bad I already have an xbox lmfao

[ebon shale]

Interesting thought. Wonder what the first game to have such an engine will be. Probably not in this console generation, as they are simply not powerful enough.

[frail bloom]

I'm pretty sure the ps5 can run the game at 60 fps

[nimble epoch]

Anyone know if the game size has been confirmed anywhere? Want to make sure I have enough storage before it comes out

[languid granite]

#announcements has all the storage recommendations in the last sent message

[nimble epoch]

Ah

Thank you

[languid granite]

ofc ofc

[weary current]

He sounds a lot like Hugo Weaving’s Megatron

[languid granite]

while it is for pc it might give you a clue of what storage you need if your gonna play on console

[ebon shale]

... idtech is definitely not the first engine to be fully built for raytracing. Sure raytracing is required, but that doesn't mean that everything is raytraced. Pretty sure there will still be the option to divert to traditional rasterization. And a PS5 is so far away from running everything on raytracing

[frail bloom]

Ii'm confused they wouldn't publish a game that runs lower than 60 fps

[plain iron]

To me he sounded more like Frank Welker's megatron from TFP imo, but I can see it

[frail bloom]

Especially on console where it demands it

[plain iron]

We just went over this.

They are not using raytracing exclusively for visuals.
They are using it in hit detection.
They would need to rewrite a lot of things to allow that to function.

[ebon shale]

JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE... I think we are talking past each other. You gotta understand that raytracing isn't just a switch you throw on. There are loads of levels to it, imagine a dimmer for a led light. Yes, PS 5 is capable of some raytracing, as it has the required rt cores in the hardware, but to put it simply, only like 10% of the pixels on your screen will actually be raytraced

[frail bloom]

Alr but can it run 60 fps yes or no

Just yes or no

[ebon shale]

yes as the raytracing necessary for gameplay is not very demanding

[wooden acorn]

Almost forgot
Day 85 of 112

[grim cloud]

is that days till EA or normal peasant release?

[formal root]

seems like normal release

[wooden acorn]

Normal

[undone tartan]

Who here is ready to rip and tear?

[sterile summit]

I need it 60fps on Steam Deck or not buying

I can’t deal with anything lower in shooter games

Like Spiderman and stuff I can do 30 just fine

[upbeat lark]

Me

[undone tartan]

If we are going to rip and tear, can I get a spear helmet?

[plain iron]

Then why did you get a steam deck compared to a console 😭 steam decks are not powerful enough to handle such intensive things like TDA

Like. They go for around the same prices

[sterile summit]

Can’t run Linux on an Xbox Series or PS5

Honestly my main interest in consoles is running whatever I want on it

[plain iron]

Then get a proper pc.

[sterile summit]

I don’t even play games on my Switch anymore. Just fucking around in Linux and Android.

[sterile summit]

I have a few

[plucky plinth]

too bad consoles are starting to not exist anymore

they're already killing them off this generation with the Xbox Series S and such

[sterile summit]

Yeah honestly there’s no point getting a console this generation except for the Steam Deck

PCs just have more value

[plucky plinth]

I have an original model PS5

[sterile summit]

Which the Steam Deck kinda counts as a PC

[plucky plinth]

but yeah, any single "console" without a disc drive or some way to use a physical game is on par with a Stadia

and not a console

[sterile summit]

I’d kill for Valve to make a home console around PS5-ish power

[sterile summit]

I’d prefer to get games physically, but I really don’t care that much

Before I had to reformat my SD card, I had all my physical Switch carts backed up to my emuNAND

I’m too lazy to back them up again cause I barely play switch games

Typo I said Wii U cause I have my phone auto correct “Switch” to “Wii U”

It’s kinda funny

[sterile summit]

Oh yeah I also don’t like the chance of getting banned and then the hardware I own gets turned into a paper weight

[plain iron]

Then why are you demanding to get 60 fps on something that probably cant even run on the steam deck. You have other options

[plain iron]

Tbf what are you doing that would get you banned on a console. Atp that might be your own fault

[sterile summit]

They got Doom Eternal running on the Switch

I would say Doom on the SNES but that was different

[plain iron]

Yeah. At like. 30 fps. W out raytracing.

[sterile summit]

Honestly I’d be fine with 40 or 50

Just higher than 30

[plain iron]

Then don't use the steam deck. It won't reach that point. It probably can't even run TDA.

[dire prism]

It won't.

[sterile summit]

Okay well that’s the most powerful thing I have that isn’t a Mac

I just won’t buy it then

[plain iron]

[sterile summit]

Invite me to that server

[plain iron]

No lmfao

[sterile summit]

Private server?

[plain iron]

That's a personal server of mine

[sterile summit]

Fair enough

I’m stealing that emoji

[frail bloom]

Well no one is saying you have to buy it on release day, if you think you have the patience to wait for a sale then all power to you

(But for me, I expect 60 fps on the platforms it's dedicated for)

[sterile summit]

Im also never buying a game over $60 and if it is $60 it has to justify the price. Thankfully it's on Steam which does sales often

Assuming it runs well on Steam Deck, it'd be worth $60

Hey let's just be glad it wasn't made my Nintendo

[plain iron]

it won't run on the steam deck

[hard thistle]

Switch 2 probably has a better chance of running dark ages than steam deck

[rough heart]

Is void slayer only pre order skin?

You cant after release

[grim cloud]

im sure they sell it later, or just mod it in since its SP game

[rough heart]

Mhmm thx

[zealous shard]

any new trailer, yet? 😄

[sterile summit]

If Wii U 3 can then Steam Deck can

[frail bloom]

No it probably can't

[frail bloom]

On sunday

[stoic sleet]

Does the dark ages run on the DS?

[copper torrent]

What a damn excruciating wait

This month is gonna take forever

[grim cloud]

yah well hype is a double edged sword, once it gone, ur sad

hype hangover is a real thing

[zealous shard]

really????

[frail bloom]

Ye!

[hard thistle]

TV spot during wrestlemania and trailer 2 online shortly after

[stoic sleet]

Maybe it will introduce the fabled bfg chaingun with infinite ammo

[autumn dawn]

i'm sorry, bfg chaingun ∞ ammo?

[stoic sleet]

Yeah

Shoota as fast as the mobile turret

[autumn dawn]

like the original scrapped bfg?

[stoic sleet]

The eternal bfg

[autumn dawn]

no, i mean the original plans for the bfg in classic doom

[stoic sleet]

I havent played classic doom

[autumn dawn]

it would have functioned like the plasma gun, but a lot more green energy balls that had a lot of vertical and horizontal spread

[stoic sleet]

Well ig

And they shoot eternal bfg shots

[autumn dawn]

it was scrapped because it "looked like Christmas"

[stoic sleet]

Yet they add a christmas skin fir the bfg in eternal

Smh

[autumn dawn]

they did?

[stoic sleet]

Its called “Big Festive Gun”

[autumn dawn]

i'm not too keen on the weapon skins, probably because i'll never get to play Eternal

[stoic sleet]

Why?

[autumn dawn]

💵🚫

[stoic sleet]

Oh

I got rlly lucky when i got eternal

[autumn dawn]

discount?

[stoic sleet]

It was on sale for £8

On playstation store

[autumn dawn]

only $10... ₱603

[stoic sleet]

Misclick

[dry sky]

Is the game coming out on the 14th or 15th

[dawn yew]

15th

you play it 2 days early if u pay more scrilla

[dry sky]

It says 14th

[dawn yew]

but I low-key can't wait to play it

[dawn yew]

it does?

[dry sky]

Yeah

[dawn yew]

well that's one less day to wait

[dry sky]

Fr

Ive been deadass confused with the release day for months

[plain iron]

It's supposed to be the 15th.

[dawn yew]

dang I always thought it was the 15th

[plain iron]

Early release is the 13th.

[dawn yew]

derp ofc I'm forgetful w dates

[vagrant path]

hahahaha I get it earlier than most of you

[silent surge]

premium edition buyers get it on the 13th, general buyers on the 15th

[dry sky]

Then why does playstation and xbox say the 14th

Have they been tweaking since pre orders opened or

[silent surge]

time zone?

[dry sky]

Est

[silent surge]

was gonna say depending on time zone maybe but hmm.

[dry sky]

Im not complaining either way

Hoping it does come out on the 14th so i can call out of work for the rest of my life just to play 🙏

[fleet spruce]

Not happening, not until they make a model with better APU

if you're curious about the potential performance look up Indiana Jones and the Great Circle running on Steam Deck

[earnest swift]

Possibly. It’s launching at 10 AM in Australia on digital storefronts, so the Americas would get it on the 14th in that case.

[formal root]

really tempting to buy that controller

[stoic sleet]

stand ready for my arrival worm

[warm ibex]

Seems to be releasing on the night of the 14th on digital platforms

and the night of the 12th for digital premium edition owners

[lament grove]

Controller arriving today very happy thought it was gonna be delivered on the 22nd

[plain iron]

Damn, wasn't it just released 😭

[frank sonnet]

Ima get game pass the day before dark ages comes out

[vagrant path]

You get it from gamestop too?

that's where I'm thinkin I'll get it

looks to be cheaper on there

[chilly wagon]

New trailer soon

[lament grove]

Nah ordered directly from Microsoft

[lament grove]

Yes 💪

[merry lion]

https://tenor.com/view/doom3-betruger-dr-betruger-amazing-things-gif-27073156

[simple olive]

hi conquest

[white temple]

If u could add one dlc to dark ages what would it be?

[slender night]

Boss rush

[merry lion]

Doom 64 skin (hope it's unlockable instead)

[copper torrent]

I'd kill for a playable demo

[devout cove]

just wait for the whole game

[plain iron]

Yeah it's in like.

3-4 weeks

[mossy flicker]

I genuinely wonder what they can do with the slayer story wise once they’ve fully shown and told his story
How would they make a sequel to eternal

[plain iron]

There's a whole fuckton of history even TDA won't cover at the start

[mossy flicker]

Most of it is from the older games

The dark ages will cover a pretty big portion I feel

Even tho the “history” is not revolutionary writing or lore

It’s a basic premise that kicks ass and gets the job done

[plain iron]

There's a huge amount of time TDA on release won't cover, ie the civil war. Iirc TDA isn't the last instalment in the doom franchise.

[graceful lion]

doom also has completely fucked timeskips apparently spanning possibly billions or millions of years

so the potential for game making is insane

[feral bane]

I think those time skips mostly just take place while Doomguy is in Hell for awhile

So like when he’s trapped there post-64, and when he’s stranded during the civil war.

There might be another big one I’m forgetting though

[proud vine]

also how did he get out of hell after 64 exactly?

[plain iron]

He flopped out of hell via a overlap or smthn

[proud vine]

peak

[uneven dragon]

Don’t the hell priests say they found him there

[plain iron]

He flopped outta hell, and iirc a night sentinel patrol found him

[neon perch]

Hell yeah the un-Hank Hill'd the Cyberdemon's ass in TDA.

[hard thistle]

What

[frail hatch]

Give me trailer 2 already

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-mvis-microvision-gif-20711872

[limpid aurora]

for some reason doom the dark ages comes out on my birthday

[proud cloud]

yooo thats dope

[fleet spruce]

Got booted out of hell by the sister of Mother Demon

[delicate grotto]

Heard there are ideas to go in an eldritch-horror route with the next saga, if there is one. We still don’t know who that “Mysterious Voice” is from the Urdak level. Could explore that. Pretty sure Hugo confirmed that Davoth and The Father aren’t the strongest beings in this universe.

[fleet spruce]

exactly, mysterious voice is so far the only real link we have to that

[soft fiber]

Hi everybody I’m New But Love Doom, But are we going to see the doom guy Get Imprisoned by the Sentinels?

[graceful lion]

i dont think he ever got imprisoned, not the most lore savvy but he was put in the gladiator arena after he was found outside the argent walls

[rough heart]

Will deluxe edition be on sale 40€

?

[graceful lion]

on steam?, maybe if the game is like 4 years old

so no, no it wont

[rough heart]

Noo

Damn

And is it deluxe or premium?

[graceful lion]

i dont think thers a deluxe, only premium and standard

for now atleast

[rough heart]

Aah

[graceful lion]

u can check allkeyshop, but its less trusted

currently standard goes for like 44 eur rn

[soft fiber]

Yeah only Premium that’s the version I got for the early access

[rough heart]

Ill see

[graceful lion]

but yeah since premium contains physical items aswell, its gonna be expensive for a hwile

and i think premium is only gonna be available for the pre order

[soft fiber]

Did y’all get the new controller Mines came in yesterday?

[hard thistle]

i heard that trailer 2 for tda will come out tomorrow during wrestlemania is this true

Yup

[rough heart]

Btw mayb i should wait for trailer 2 to see if ill be physical pc copy : D

[slender night]

If there is one it'll be physical digital

[solemn wyvern]

Dick punch

[hard thistle]

bad arse

i probably wont watch it and just wait for it to drop on youtube

[rough heart]

Without disk?

[obsidian shard]

PC hasn't had Disc in YEARS

[rough heart]

It had eternal lol

[obsidian shard]

Eternal did not have a PC Game disc

it had a code

[wooden acorn]

Soon™️

Day 86 of 112

[slender night]

If it has a disc it'll just have the Steam setup on it. DOOM has done this before

[rough heart]

Yea

[undone tartan]

Who would win: doom slayer and me or the entire army of hell across the multiverse?

[slender night]

Probably the latter

[merry lion]

Issue of skill

[formal root]

bought it yesterday

mines coming most likely the 22nd

[soft fiber]

Sweet I hope you enjoy it My fellow Slayer.

[balmy escarp]

Anyone know the exact timings for wrestlemania 41? I wanna tune in to see the trailer they're gonna drop

[obsidian shard]

4 PM PST

Today and Tomorrow

[balmy escarp]

Wait they are doing it twice? I've never actually seen a wrestlemania show so I dunno how it works

I wonder if they're gonna show it at both

[obsidian shard]

It's a 2 Day event

[balmy escarp]

Alright, thank you for letting me know

[graceful lion]

probably not, they specified sunday, not throughout the event

[balmy escarp]

Fair enough

[fair elk]

That's like 12am Monday for us in the UK 😭 😂

I was so excited thinking it'll go air on our Sunday, but nope had to check the times to be sure...Luckily Mondays a bank holiday anyway for us

[plain iron]

It's like. 9am for me

[fair elk]

I'm definitely going to suppress my sleep for this until the clocks turn 00:00. Need to see it live before all the media images and whatnot appear afterwards.

[sterile sage]

trailer 2 release time?

[final dune]

As a wise man always said
Tomorrow at 3
/j

[graceful lion]

tomrrow at some point in time

i have a 5900x cpu, and a 6gb rtx 2060

and also a normal hard drive which im hoping to upgrade

theres also this 3060 with 12 gigs my dad has which is definitely fixable if we took it to a professional

i mean its not much of an upgrade over the super

or like vice versa

the super is not much of an upgrade

i also have a normal hard drive which is probably gonna need more of an upgrade over the 2060

its practically impossible for me to upgrade my gpu atm, everything else is either expensive or requires payment in one go

so unless i get someone to fix that 3060, sell my 2060 to get an nvme, i cant do much

it runs™️

just a few months ago i was using an rx 580

was forced to upgrade because some sort of windows update caused driver issues to where my motherboard could not boot at all with the gpu installed

yep, it was

seemsto have been a reoccuring issue, happened before in 2019

2021, 2022

im probably gonna wait for like a super deal on dubizzle, which is basically a facebook marketplace

or, better yet, fix the 3060 i have becuase it would be a great pair with my 5900x

12 gigs would also be insane, can do practically anything

i mostly care about fps, dont care if the game looks like shit while im playing

yeah, even the 5000 series rx cards were pcie 4 and did not have RT

yeah, they had RT first after all

30??

on a game like tda?

oh ok

good

i do also need a different plastic shroud for this gpu, iirc it was yanked out of its socket becuase someone tried stealing it

and it broke off the shroud

god fucking knows

but some of the heatsink fins are just bent, like 5 or 6 of the ends of one of them is bent

so definitely wasnt just a careless guy

oo theres just a design for the shroud on some sort of 3d printing place

[hard thistle]

Timestopping demon when?

https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-jojo-bizarre-adventure-power-gif-14292027

[sterile sage]

utc?

[hollow sandal]

Universal Time Coordination

[graceful lion]

dlss and allat yeah

also its id ill be fine

trust me, id works

yeah their games are very well optimized, no?

yes, we can count on id

if doom eternal can run on hardware from 2014, tda can run on hardware from 2019

[delicate sequoia]

2 hours?

[merry lion]

Hoping my 4060ti is enough

[graceful lion]

more than enough

the generations alone might bypass the gb requirement, becuase later generations have better raytracing efficiency and efifciency in general

it runs on like 30 ish fps on a gtx 850m, which has one gb of memory

yeah i ran it for like a tiny bit on a surface

yeah

it runs at like 30-40 fps (kinda playable if u can handle stuttering, which isnt much either) on the aspire u5-620

[lament venture]

Anyone else get the new doom Xbox controller ?

[grim cloud]

i ordered the green one, its incoming

[lament venture]

I just got mine , the question is do I open it or keep it for the future lol

[slender night]

id worked on these

[merry lion]

This presents a problem, low settings it is

[slender night]

Oh I thought you were saying "id never released an unoptimized game" not "never released an unoptimized game on their engine(s)"

My bad

[merry lion]

i'll play it safe and go with 1080p medium

[slender night]

I play RAGE 2 on console so never really faced any issues with it

[summer obsidian]

Do we know when shipping for the collectors edition is gonna start

[dusty dagger]

Will a 4070 super be able to handle 1080p high settings 120 fps? I wanna think so cuz eternal ran at 120 fps with everything on high just fine

[summer obsidian]

I would be surprised if it couldn’t handle 1080p not sure about the fps but I’d bet u can atleast get 80 fps

No one will know

[dusty dagger]

True, I'm willing to do a mix of medium and high settings if needed but yeah we won't know until it's out

[summer obsidian]

I mean I bet I could run medium settings with my 12gb 3060 but i went with Xbox

[graceful lion]

well, not really, as i said, on the gtx 850m, a gpu with 1 gb of ram, it was kinda tame, while the vram eternal suggested was like 2.5 ingame

eternal ran on high settings with rt on, but this is much deeper raytracing ig

[grim cloud]

4090 24gb, muhahhahahahaa

second best on the market

[summer obsidian]

Some may argue best cuz no frame generation

[delicate sequoia]

It begins

[feral bane]

My PC might blow up trying to run TDA lol

[delicate sequoia]

You guys watching the wrestling?

[winter idol]

No cause its tomorrow, not today

They specifically said sunday

[delicate sequoia]

It’s Sunday

Like

1 AM

[gilded lake]

time zones

[delicate sequoia]

Idk

Should I sleep?

Is it pointless to watch it expecting a trailer?

[summer summit]

This will basically be my Acer Nitro 5 laptop if it tries to run it.

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-smoking-laptop-laptop-on-fire-fire-laptop-computer-smoking-gif-27155816

[winter idol]

They meant sunday american time

Im assuming you are not in america

[delicate sequoia]

Im sorry I got no info for mt country idk how this stuff works

Or how this events least or distribute

[winter idol]

Its going to be in a day

Since its saturday in america

[delicate sequoia]

What time is it there?

[winter idol]

7:44 pm

[delicate sequoia]

4 hours

I can wait

[winter idol]

Its not going to be today lmao

I believe its a 2 day event

[formal root]

still

I can’t wait

already preordered the controller

was it a poor financial decision? maybe

but my birthday is in a month so I deserve to give myself a little treat

[plucky plinth]

iirc it starts at like 7 PM ET tomorrow

unless I'm stupid and got wrong information

[winter idol]

Also its in vegas so i believe it is 4pm there

[delicate sequoia]

Nah it has a exclusive in game skin

[formal root]

YESSS

[plucky plinth]

I pre-ordered the Big Box Doom + Doom 2 thing

[formal root]

also, its gonna be badass playing fighting games and rocking that controller

[delicate sequoia]

I mean you did good

[plucky plinth]

-# jfc it was $116 for all of it

[formal root]

playing yakuza 0 with the slayer controller

[plucky plinth]

I would've maybe thought of buying a TDA-branded controller if there was a PlayStation version of it

[delicate sequoia]

Man I hate time zones I want the trailer now

I don’t want to wait till my Monday

[formal root]

I would’ve have fought the elite if I had more cash but honestly

the standard looks way better

its a damn armored controller, how cooler can it get

[uneven dragon]

Same💔💔💔

[plucky plinth]

I just hate Xbox-layout controllers, is all

[formal root]

I got used to it real quick

[plucky plinth]

they've always made my hands painfully cramp

without fail

no matter which generation Xbox controller I used

[delicate sequoia]

Just gonna sleep until the trailer is out idc if it’s more than 24 h is not worth being awake without doom

[formal root]

I got big old hands, so they feel quite nice on me

[plucky plinth]

I have large hands as well

[formal root]

huh

[plucky plinth]

the stick placement is just in the wrong place for my hands, really

so by like 5 minutes of using one I have to set it down because I can barely move my hands

[formal root]

plus, I wanted to get a wireless xbox controller because I had to use a controller with a dongle

so you know

win win me thinks

[plucky plinth]

yeah, seems fair

you get cool controller, as well as something you've been needing

[formal root]

yeah

and free dlc

[plucky plinth]

I'm still fully deciding where I'm buying TDA

probably just gonna buy it at a local store tbh

[soft fiber]

Will this Game take Before or after Doomguy was subjected to the divinity machine?

[woven jolt]

after divinity machine

[soft fiber]

Thank you I had forgot

[rich sigil]

Wassuup bro

[formal root]

after the divinity machine

in which the maykrs pretty much have you like a dog on a leash

[soft fiber]

Thanks I hope we see the sentinel Civil War that shit will be tight

[formal root]

I mean we do see nekravol returning and we know how that went down

[plain iron]

I don't think it's nekravol we saw 😭

[formal root]

maybe i’m confusing it because of how similar the architecture is

[plain iron]

It's hell architecture, it's all the same

[formal root]

true

[spiral crow]

Guys do we know when exactly trailer 2 is coming out?

At what time exactly?

[formal root]

this sunday

we don’t know when exactly

but I imagine when wrestlemania is on

so like at 4 pm

[plain iron]

For me it's 9am lmao

[formal root]

what do you fellas think we might see in trailer 2

[plain iron]

Oruhh I hope to hear the kreed maykr

[formal root]

i’m thinking more previews of the eldritch dimension

[plain iron]

And see more of Commander Thira so i can draw her kissing women

[formal root]

I wanna see the funny fellas named cosmic barons

[mystic barn]

Ideally, a trailer akin to Eternal’s story trailer (the one with the kickass Gladiator mix). That’s my benchmark for good DOOM trailers

[formal root]

that gladiator mix never being released is so damn infuriating

[warm ibex]

Wanted to throw this out there - the main wrestlemania event starts tomorrow at 7pm EST, but there's a countdown preshow that begins at 4pm EST

[plain iron]

Hoard!!! Did you ever hear the kreed maykr? Or were yall just limited to Thira, novik and ahzrak

[slender onyx]

anyone else gonna actually watch wrestlemania waiting for the trailer to drop?

[warm ibex]

I believe he had a few lines, but I can't remember what he sounded like

[worn lion]

That purple dimension

[plain iron]

Fuck

[slender onyx]

king novik footage

[plain iron]

I want more chonkyr

[worn lion]

More demons

[slender onyx]

i picture him speaking like baron harkonnen from dune

[plain iron]

I was gonna say I want to see how the drones interact w the kreed maykr but I forgor that drones can't leave urdak

[mystic barn]

For a while, it made me very upset too, but I came to realise it was composed specifically for the trailer and likely wouldn’t have represented the mix we would get in the OST (if Mick were contracted that is). In any case, I tried to replicate it here in my mix of Gladiator (just take out the space between google and .com): drive.google .com/file/d/1NHySsMOrP7Dv9BhEcdBYdHTmR_avkujJ/view?usp=drivesdk

[warm ibex]

hope we see these dudeshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870798249437573191/1363321794802618449/678D4D364766728A097628DD4C79637220D8F2BD.png?ex=68059bdd&is=68044a5d&hm=b7cc294f640e045b4e1f98664ff244bde374b39d4c7ea5d1c975d03b33e5a48d&

standard, winged and cybernetically augmented

[slender onyx]

the original barons and hell knights would be fire af

to confirm the theory that the gladiator from eternal is the last of them

[warm ibex]

I'd like to see the classic cover art demons. they look like a nice mid point betweent an imp and baron

[formal root]

its really weird we never see the guys from the 1993 as actual demons

[slender onyx]

doomguy's night sentinels

[plain iron]

I'm literally this dude
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1363322462816702464/image0.jpg?ex=68059c7c&is=68044afc&hm=666235fa11e710b0189ac9b910d0710e1d7852fa24cdf52889808852fdb42ec1&

[formal root]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[warm ibex]

that is pretty strange! they appear in a ton of Eternal's sentinel codex entries though, so I'm hoping they pop up in game

[odd gust]

Whats happenin here

[warm ibex]

demons invading argent d'nur

[odd gust]

What are they doing to people

[plain iron]

murder.

[odd gust]

arson

[mystic barn]

Not sure where I saw it, but someone put together concept art for a TDA styled version of the poster demons. It’s not official, but it’s a rather interesting “what-if?”

[plain iron]

I'm so excited to struggle to draw the kreed maykr.

[hollow sandal]

My Argenta. My Doom

[warm ibex]

I saw that too, he's an incredible artist. I think he posts in here actually

[slender onyx]

i want them to reveal that the marauder used to be a part of doomguy's team of night sentinels with valen, sash, roan and gor

and i mean the specific marauder doomguy fights as a boss in eternal

[plain iron]

#artwork message

This guy?

[odd gust]

Is this art from doom eternal

[warm ibex]

yes, thank you!

[plain iron]

No worries dawg

[warm ibex]

his TDA classic caco is also spectacular

[plain iron]

Fr

[slender onyx]

that is beautiful

[rough heart]

Ill wait for autumn sale to buy doom :/

[formal root]

no spring sale?

[soft fiber]

“You can’t not Resist the Will of the Khan Mayker”

[uneven dragon]

They’re probably just meant to be like the everyman of demons

Generic Demon

[soft fiber]

So Will the Crucible make a Comeback?

[plain iron]

Probably not

[soft fiber]

Damm I was ready to slice fools up

[hard thistle]

you'll probably still be able to there's a lot of melee weapons

[soft fiber]

I’m Hopeful It Will Who knows

[hard thistle]

25 more days and we'll find out

[plucky plinth]

tbh, I hope it doesn't in the way it appears in Eternal

holy fuck that weapon was as boring as it was useless

[plain iron]

It probably won't. Especially if this is set after the seige of Taras Nabad.

[soft fiber]

I was say like How he fought the Titan I want to see that cutscene if we see it

[formal root]

the crucible kinda felt like a “panic” weapon

you get cornered, slice couple demons

[plucky plinth]

I used it like, once

[hard thistle]

sentinel hammer is much better

[plucky plinth]

you waste so much ammo for a single enemy

when you can waste less for a single BFG shot that can cripple a whole arena

[soft fiber]

Facts

[plucky plinth]

the crucible is genuinely useless

[hard thistle]

there should be an option to have the sentinel hammer in the base campaign if you have the dlc instead of the crucible

[plucky plinth]

out of all weapons in the game, the crucible is also the only weapon that you can't really get ammo for

and you only get 3 charges at a time

which means only 3 enemies

[plucky plinth]

agreed

[soft fiber]

It had some Cool executions I like with the cyber demon

[plucky plinth]

just too overpowered, similar to the chainsaw and it's auto refill

[hard thistle]

i dont use either of them because i set the bind to the ssg

[soft fiber]

So has anyone see this Loser Yorch torch games?

[frail bloom]

Don't even

[soft fiber]

lol

[frail bloom]

He baits views especially when it comes to demon designs

He sees descent and feeds on it

[soft fiber]

Yeah Bro needs serious Therapy

[mystic barn]

That brings up a thought I’ve had about the Marauder. It would have been so much better if the Marauder was a singular enemy encountered in Eternal, but he was also was The Betrayer. An easy way around any messed up lore is to say that The Betrayer was made into the Marauder as a cruel punishment for bargaining with the demons to bring his son back. Having the Marauder forgive Doomguy and then show up to fight alongside him in Immora would have had so much weight to it

[formal root]

oh god don’t even

[soft fiber]

Lol

[formal root]

him and his fucking ”gamers”

he uses it in every fucking tweet

[soft fiber]

I just heard about him

[frail bloom]

Anyways I saw the latest FM short and the message at the end was that the ost will release may 15, and it was in classic doom font. Maybe I'm looking too much into it but we're in for a treat

[formal root]

gamers this, gamers that

doom woke this, doom woke that

THERES A DEMONIC SIEGE, GET OUT THERE AND KILL THE DEMONS

[soft fiber]

Woke is just a dead Word at this point Bro

Just say you don’t like the game The fuck

[formal root]

matter of fact, don’t play the game

its that simple

[soft fiber]

Facts

[frail bloom]

Ye also the rev in this game has no eyes which is cool

Like the classic rev

[undone tartan]

If Doom Slayer ever wants to team, I would be glad to stop that army of hell throughout the multiverse.

[plain iron]

Premium edition owners get a digital copy of the soundtrack, so they get it early

[frail bloom]

Oh ye yay me🎉

[plain iron]

Same

[soft fiber]

So has anyone Heard About The dark lord he was supposed to turn into a dragon?

[formal root]

yeah…

[plain iron]

Mhm, it's so sad we didn't get that

[formal root]

[soft fiber]

Damm Covid

[uneven dragon]

AND IT’S ENTIRELY MASSACRED BY CHAD MOSSHOLDER🔥🔥🔥

/j but could you imagine

[plain iron]

Fuckin who

[undone tartan]

Also the only thing I need is a helmet, led, and 15 pounds of uranium.

[frail bloom]

Y'know it's not out of the realm of possibility, there's nothing holding them back so hopefully we see them cuz we know their design works(just look at the gladiator)

[uneven dragon]

Lil bro doesn’t know chad mossholder

[uneven dragon]

He’s the guy who butchered the eternal ost cause Marty refused to let Mick work on it

[frail bloom]

I think lead audio sound director or smt

[uneven dragon]

also does sound design for all the games

[frail bloom]

Well it wasn't his choice per say

[plain iron]

Oh so he's essentially a producer

[uneven dragon]

He also rejected Into Sandy’s City from being used in Eternal which made the ending 20x lamer

[uneven dragon]

Well he’s responsible for creating most of the sound effects

[frail bloom]

Wasn't that marty? I can't remember

[uneven dragon]

Even in Legacy of Rust

[plain iron]

So he's important as shit 😭

[uneven dragon]

In Mick’s letter he says Chad was on the panel that rejected it

[frail bloom]

Either way he's a really important sound designer

[uneven dragon]

Which is why I put the blame for that on Marty

[plain iron]

If it was a panel, there was a vote.

[uneven dragon]

But fucking hell Chad did a horrible job with the eternal ost

[frail bloom]

Ye not his area of expertise

[uneven dragon]

Mick talks about it like Chad voted to reject it too is my point

[plain iron]

Mick is also a little bitch

[uneven dragon]

and I blame Chad especially cause he had the gall to then put it on the album without telling Mick

and crediting himself for a track Mick made that HE REJECTED

[formal root]

can we get mfs who thinks cool soundtracks are lame to not take decisions in sound work

[frail bloom]

Ye I'll never hear what happened to muh boi penguin so I'll never know

I assume something awful

But Idk wht

[plain iron]

Eh not awful, just unprofessional.

He's a very unprofessional person.

[slender onyx]

yeah the marauder should have been just one guy, tho i do like valen being the betrayer but you're idea is just as cool

[uneven dragon]

If you need to know how bad Chad is at mixing music just listen to THIS track on the Eternal collectors ost https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BbhWmLVAvJw

[uneven dragon]

Example

[slender onyx]

i hope we see the khan maykr in TDA, at least as a cameo

[hard thistle]

the dark ages is supposed to take place billions of years before 2016 according to the lore dude and since there's a new khan maykr every 10,000 years i dont think we're gonna see the same one in there as we saw in eternal

[plain iron]

Not meeting a very clear deadline. Failing to use a contract for commissions work. Not having a agent for himself. Offering to do something for free, then crying when he didn't get paid. Upset that because he didn't meet a deadline, another person was used to fix that mess.

[frail bloom]

Bro keeps edging me with the drop😭 🙏

[uneven dragon]

bro actually thinks Mick was lying and Marty wasn’t 😭💀

that’s crayzay

[plain iron]

Also, Chad isn't a music producer. He does sound producing. He does sound effects. Which is wildly different to music.

[uneven dragon]

Hence why he shouldn’t have been making the fucking album

[plain iron]

It was a last minute choice.

[uneven dragon]

And Mick literally stated he wasn’t told to begin working on the album and they went to Chad first

Have you even read the letter lol? They let Mick begin working on the album AFTER Chad

[plain iron]

Both sides are in the wrong.

[slender onyx]

ok but as far as i remember the khan maykr from eternal is the same one that introduced argent energy to the argenta people, and has been keeping herself alive this long due to the argent energy made from the soul's of hell's victims

[uneven dragon]

And they announced the OST release before even telling Mick it was happening

[slender onyx]

so she could appear

[uneven dragon]

You don’t tell the guy making the album the album is happening at the same time as the rest of the world

[frail bloom]

We should see some cameo as it's the same khan but idk we'll see

[uneven dragon]

Mick isn’t blameless but you’re dead wrong about the Mossholder stuff

[plain iron]

Mick didn't meet a deadline. Cried about it. Then when they had someone fix it, he got even more upset.

[uneven dragon]

They went to him for the album first

[uneven dragon]

I don’t think you actually read his Medium post at all lol

[rough heart]

Spring sale its over and my friend told me big game need to endure 6 mounths to be on sale

[formal root]

ahhhh

damn

[plain iron]

He was given a deadline! He didn't meet it! That is entirely his fault! We all have deadlines to meet. There was a legal deadline. He didn't meet it.

[frail bloom]

If I recall Marty went to Chad 6 months prior the release mixing Micks tracks but I'm not sure

[hard thistle]

oh i didnt know that

i think i need to reread some codex entries

[uneven dragon]

He literally was not even told to begin work on the album wtf are you talking about

[plain iron]

do you ever think he was maybe lying.

Why didn't they go to court? Both sides were lying.

[uneven dragon]

Ok so you trust Marty more than Mick

Despite Mick having more shown evidence

[vagrant path]

See now this is why no one listens to what you have to say

[uneven dragon]

Inch Resting

[plain iron]

Ykwhat yeah. I am. I fuckin hate Marty. But mick is crying wolf.

[uneven dragon]

Oh yeah also noticing how I said Chad was bad at mixing and you responded by saying Mick is a “little bitch” lol

[plain iron]

I wasn't responding to you.

[vagrant path]

almost like someone has a bias

🤥

[uneven dragon]

Or perhaps an independent contractor doesn’t want to be railed by the lawyers and money of a huge game company

[hard thistle]

this is more interesting of a take than anything ive never seen someone disagree with mick

[vagrant path]

if you want my two cents on it I never gave a shit lmfao

[uneven dragon]

Stating that Mick is a little bitch for missing a deadline and then saying “he was lying about not being told about it” just means your opinion is purely based on ignoring one person’s word

[mystic barn]

According to Reese over at KiwiTalkz, Mick is currently in a legal battle against either id Software or Marty Stratton himself

[uneven dragon]

I see I see

[plain iron]

We don't know what happened. We may never know what happened. Neither people are particularly trustworthy. Half of this is on mick because he failed to do basic fucking commission protection.

[hot lava]

https://tenor.com/view/water-jet-in-the-face-car-wash-dumb-getcha-ya-gif-16328366

[vagrant path]

there it is

[uneven dragon]

erm what the skibidi

[plain iron]

I like the intermission song, both versions are hella neat

[wooden acorn]

lmao

[hot lava]

Relax all

[hard thistle]

yo can you preview the 2nd dark ages trailer rn

[vagrant path]

rofl even

[uneven dragon]

i think another 50 messages need cleansing

[hot lava]

Or the mute hound will bite

[plain iron]

We got hosed down.

[wooden acorn]

new topic
that new trailer was pretty cool huh
(I'm from the future)

[hot lava]

I wish

[formal root]

damn, i’m all wet )) :

[plain iron]

I wanna see the chonkyr

[hard thistle]

oh you're not an id employee are you

[vagrant path]

dude you know he can't leak it, the id software secret service will get him if he does.

[hard thistle]

i thought thats what that role icon meant for some reason

[frail bloom]

My favorite is his dave d taylor blue remix, straight out of an action movie

[uneven dragon]

I hope Doom 64 gets referenced in the OST for TDA but I doubt it

[vagrant path]

they'll send their police force

[uneven dragon]

It seems like they’ve abandoned the whole “””reboot””” thing with this game

[plain iron]

I wanna see the kreed maykr turned into a marketable plushie.

[vagrant path]

I hope it gets referenced to the point of the beginning showing how doomguy gets transported to agrent d'nur.

[wooden acorn]

weighted kreed maykr plush

[vagrant path]

[hard thistle]

horde mode gaming is reciting the whole codex off the top of his head

[formal root]

Id will send their barons of hell, but they have suits and dark shades

[uneven dragon]

Finishing Move seem to just be doing metal

So I doubt they could even reference D64 that much

[formal root]

and they throw you out into the street

[vagrant path]

600 pound kreed makyr body pillow

[uneven dragon]

Outside of the menu and Doom 64 Finale

[warm ibex]

I'll drop my mini essay another day then lol

[plain iron]

Awh balls.

[uneven dragon]

💔

[wooden acorn]

good idea

[vagrant path]

also is his name actually the kreed makyr?

[warm ibex]

yea

[vagrant path]

where'd that come from

[plain iron]

I think a plushie of the kreed maykr would be epic.

[warm ibex]

press demo subtitles

[frail bloom]

Remember, 64 is mostly comprised of ambient tracks so it's entirely possible that the ambient tracks are referenced, like in 2016

[vagrant path]

was it another accidental reveal like-

[vagrant path]

ah so like prince asscrack?

[plain iron]

Yk the Ikea bear? The big one? That's what I wanna see.

[vagrant path]

I wonder what the kreed in the name means though

[formal root]

[uneven dragon]

I guess but tbh I kinda doubt Finishing Move will do that

[wooden acorn]

the sneed maykr

[vagrant path]

and feed makyr

[plain iron]

Kreed typically means kin, or family, except, usually its spelt creed.

[uneven dragon]

I mean maybe I’ll be proven wrong but I just don’t think Finishing Move are the type to reference D64 ambience

[frail bloom]

Why tho? Nothing stopping them, you don't know anything about them either I presume

[wooden acorn]

Urdaks sneed and kreed

[hot lava]

Creed is more a belief system than family

[hard thistle]

it depends whether or not they have that love for the entire doom series like mick did

[uneven dragon]

Nothings stopping them but also nothing is making them do it

[warm ibex]

it's one of those "why wouldn't they?" type things

because seriously, why wouldn't they?

[uneven dragon]

Was Doom 64’s soundtrack even referenced in 2016/Eternal? Ik that one video says The Madness was in Harbinger and that D64 Finale is in Final Sin but that might just be people hearing what they wanna hear

[hot lava]

I like his music but the mick glazing here is too much sometimes

[uneven dragon]

🤷‍♀️ TAG has a mostly reference free soundtrack outside of Davoth’s theme

[frail bloom]

They've had classic tracks referenced and even the classic font for the ost release in their recent shorts, they are going above and beyond already to me

[warm ibex]

this lol

[uneven dragon]

Were any of the classic tracks referenced from Doom 64 tho

[plain iron]

Religion, is more of apt word. Moreso a list of rules n shit

[uneven dragon]

Like not even Mick did any Doom 64 stuff

Other than possibly Harbinger and Final Sin

I don’t doubt stuff like At Doom’s Gate and Into Sandy’s City and etc will be present

[hot lava]

lol Cosmick is he in all the timelines?

[frail bloom]

No it exists and they sound very similar but for a composer they have to take creative liberties to make it interesting

[uneven dragon]

Was more just an example of how D64 is never referenced anywhere in the soundtrack

Mick, Levy and Hulshult all ignored it

[plain iron]

Bcs like. Lowkey neither of the nudoom games have much of a reference to 64.

[uneven dragon]

64 gets referenced a lot in Eternal apart from in the soundtrack

[frail bloom]

Tda already does with the nightmare imps and the timeline so it's a start

[hot lava]

D64 was lofi industrial hell . Different vibes

[uneven dragon]

There are lots of ambient tracks that could incorporate parts from it

Not to mention the main Doom 64 theme or Doom 64 finale still exist

[vagrant path]

okay theory now cause of the topic, since kreed makyr is like, mega chonk and we don't know why here's what I'm thinking.
the transfiguration, we know it happens when a makyr gets old enough of an age, we know it takes them and twists them from mechanical lifeforms to organic, so what if, due to the transfiguration and even influence of hell essence/agrent. the corruption is not only manifesting in his mind, but also his body, causing him to grow fat and tyrannical...
...
anyways yeah that's my gametheory thanks for reading!

[uneven dragon]

(Some people will say D64 finale is in Final Sin but idk it only sounds kinda similar)

[uneven dragon]

Kreed Maykr will die and his corpse will become the Vega Core in 2016 and that’s why it is so big

[vagrant path]

him going from a machine to an organic being is the only way I can see him being so chunky honestly.

[frail bloom]

If it sounds similar it's a reference most likely, all composers fo the nu games just twist it in a way to make it sound fresh but it's crazy when you realize that a lot of the nu doom game's ost are just subtle remixes

[uneven dragon]

Ehhh idk sometimes it kinda feels like ppl are just hearing what they wanna hear

[plain iron]

Transfiguration shouldn't be that bad atp.

Samur presumably just removed the father's life sphere. That's the reason why Transfiguration is such a thing.

It's normal to transfigure, not normal to do so for a long time. It was a optional thing.

[uneven dragon]

Like that video which says Bye Bye American Pie is in Metal Hell and I Sawed the Demons is in Flesh and Metal which like what lol

[frail bloom]

That's true for some of them but the 64 reference exists I promid

[uneven dragon]

no they’re not

[uneven dragon]

Perhaps………….

[vagrant path]

I mean we don't really know when EXACTLY he took the lifesphere.

[hot lava]

I love the deep lore thoughts then there’s people like me; fat cat is sinister vibes; harkonen in Dune as an example. Just a stand in for opulence, greed and moral corruption

[vagrant path]

time flows different in hell and presumably urdak too.

[hard thistle]

at least 5 years ago

[uneven dragon]

All of the Levy classic Doom references are hallucinations tho

He said on a yt comment he was only inspired by it and didn’t lift anything directly from it

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1363342818579320873/image_1.png?ex=6805af71&is=68045df1&hm=b1d3ec1ed40c945be3dfa7ca61e11e15057e6c3b8edb5944de68619ac527ee09&

This is the basic maykr life cycle. They're supposed to transfigure, and willingly die, then rejoin the singularity.

[uneven dragon]

UAC Atlantica has Descent into Cerberon in it tho (and Intro/The World Spear kinda sounds like Meathook but maybe it’s just really similar idk)

[plain iron]

Prolonged transfiguration is abnormal.

[uneven dragon]

Is it the drones that become the Khan?

I kind of assumed there’d be a midpoint

[plain iron]

I presume they're like bees. They feed certain food to certain bees so they can become a queen [pheromones or smtnn]

[formal root]

yknow

hell is less scarier compared to maykrs and urdak

[plain iron]

Wdym?

Maykrs are not super scary

[formal root]

no no i mean like

the concept that we really don’t know much of them

like

is there something more powerful that davoth didn’t create?

what other stuff was around during the dark ages

and how did they find a way into the argenta homeworld

[hard thistle]

probably because of valen

valen let hell into argent d'nur and hell was tied to the maykrs

[mystic barn]

That’s NotAKeyring’s video, and I agree. There’s nothing about Bye Bye American Pie that is similar to Metal Hell. Metal Hell is an interpolation of Rust, Dust, & Guts, which in itself is an interpolation of The Imp’s Song

[formal root]

its a song, within a song, within a song

[mystic barn]

Practically, yeah

[uneven dragon]

Waitttwaitwait Rust Dust and Guts is in Metal Hell?

Cool

I’ve been trying to track all of the doom soundtrack references across the entire franchise on a doc I’ll have to add that

Currently struggling with Mighty Doom cause I recognise MOST OF THEM but I swear UAC Mad Science and Eggadon Hunters from Mighty Doom are referencing SOMETHING but I don’t remember the song name </3

[frail bloom]

I want a classic doom ost reference video from tda when it's out it would be awesome to bask in

[hard thistle]

i want a modern the demon's dead in game

always been one of my favorites from the classic ost

[mystic barn]

The main riff of Metal Hell is just an inverted version of Rust, Dust, & Guts. I can add more to that list if you like

[frail bloom]

I want message for the archvile(but gritty)

[uneven dragon]

woah yes pls

[hard thistle]

or i sawed the demons

2 of the most underrated tracks from classic doom ospt

[uneven dragon]

I want Deep Into the Code to show up again

[uneven dragon]

Having heard the song that ISTD is based on holy hell classic Doom really did get close to copyright infringement at times 😭😭

[hard thistle]

i dont know how they didnt

deep into the code is just a carbon copy clone of the intro to behind the crooked cross

[frail bloom]

Bobby is one crafty dude

[hard thistle]

they're going to get you is also a great song

hauntingly beautiful

[frail bloom]

It's so easy to see the inspiration. I did a project where I meshed running from evil and Hangar 18 and it's almost the exact chord progression but it's bpm are widly different

There is a recording of me singing hangar 18 at 102 bpm😭 🙏

Worth it tho

[hard thistle]

poison was the cure wouldve been a great inspiration for doom

[frail bloom]

The skeleton world would go hard as a bossfight theme

Literally made for modern doom metal idk what to say

[uneven dragon]

Shittt I need Legacy of Rust to get referenced

Welcome to Die! or Shores of Heaven would be good

[frail bloom]

Maybe dlc🙏
Since lof was released way after tda production

[uneven dragon]

My favourite is They’re All Going To Laugh At You but given that one is kind of a reference itself you can’t really… reference it lol

[uneven dragon]

NEVER STOP BELIEVING IN MINDWEAVER THEORY

[hard thistle]

this is a doom server dawg aint nobody gonna fall for that

[final dune]

<@&162901871168585728> crush his skull

[frail bloom]

As much as I want to believe idk, may the codex bestow us wisdom

The skeleton world just has so much riffage tho and the motif is awesome, maybe some vassago bossfight in dlc

[hard thistle]

what if the icon of sin magically returns as the boss in tda like in final doom

[warm ibex]

nah let him cook, I think he's onto something

[frail bloom]

Hell nah where's the mother demon

[final dune]

alrighty then

[hard thistle]

hope its a whole new boss we've never seen

[warm ibex]

Ahzrak or the Witch, calling it

[frail bloom]

Nah complete the tradition and have it be the mother demon(open to their ideas tho)

Since 2016 had the spider mastermind, eternal had the icon, it would be appropiate but I'm open to other ideas

[hard thistle]

the game takes place after the mother demon is already dead so i dont think itll happen

unless she has yet another sister

[frail bloom]

Yes another sister like triplets or smt

Man I ain't tryin to hit ahzrak his hitbox would be buns

Too skinny to hit

[final dune]

you mean asscrack?

[frail bloom]

Nah that's his brother

[final dune]

i think the final boss might be the witch who evolves into some eldritch thing

[frail bloom]

#artwork messagethis please

A titan like witch from doom zero

(Sad that no one else tried to draw the witch as a titan she looks like one)

[final dune]

wdym she looks like one?

[frail bloom]

Well she's green, has horns, probably the only demon that's green

Creative liberties can make it into a monster

[final dune]

huh? can i get an image or something of her?

are we talking about the same witch?

[hard thistle]

cursed prowler

[frail bloom]

#screenshots message

[frail bloom]

Shhhh

[final dune]

oh ok

[frail bloom]

You mentioned eldritch and I just thought of that

[hard thistle]

any demon could be green if you use that handheld rendering mode

[frail bloom]

Stop ruining my headcanon

[final dune]

yeah i was talking about this #screenshots message

[hard thistle]

thats why its a headcanon

even if its wrong its still true to tou

and thats all that mattters

[frail bloom]

I'm aware but she could turn into the big demon witch

Anyways what's the second image showing?

[final dune]

its showing whats supposedly under her veil

[frail bloom]

Is that official or some photoshop

[final dune]

you can notice the similarities between the two looking at the shoulder images

not photoshop i dont think

[frail bloom]

Why does she have a beard

What am I looking at

[final dune]

those are tentacles i think

yaknow

lovecraftian and whatnot

[frail bloom]

Ye the low quality is not helping it, I can't clearly define what it is so she looks like a gal with a beard until I see a clearer image

[silent surge]

am curious now

did you know mick hid a pentagram in the hell on earth main melody

i guess either way you cut it, it would work out this way, but that was his intent.

[mystic barn]

I do, but the key signatures following a pentagram is not unique to Hell on Earth. A lot of other songs not related to DOOM do the same thing unintentionally. It was a deliberate choice from my understanding, but it’s nowhere near the use of pentagrams in Cyberdemon; that’s next level

[uneven dragon]

what pentagrams are in cyberdemon

[silent surge]

yea how the notes he uses you draw lines on the circle of fifths and it makes that shape.

cyberdemon how so, the spectrograph thing?

andrew hulshult found cities in those once

[silent surge]

mick mentioned that was a theme for other parts in the OST, could be intentional?

[mystic barn]

Almost certainly intentional. There’d be other bits and pieces within the Eternal OST that haven’t been fully explored, unlike 2016

[plain iron]

They also hid a Taggart reference in the collector's edition cassette, in the spectrograph :]

[mystic barn]

There’s a weird message in Mick’s A Sign of Evil, but I haven’t been able to decode it. There’s also a spectrogram of the DOOM II poster in that song

[cobalt fog]

For those who don’t know

Keep your eyes peeled tmrw