the-dark-ages

[grim cloud]

yah i hope for some new game+ mode with more demons and all that...

[arctic pagoda]

I hope the pulverizer is renamed to skull crusher at launch

There's a lot I hope

[stoic sleet]

I hope the skull crusher is changed to shoot bfg shots for every pellet

And it has inf ammo

[mystic barn]

They’re in the game. It’s rare for a DOOM album to include music that isn’t in game (the only exceptions I can think of are Residual, Olivia’s DOOM, and Chad Mossholder’s Khan Maykr, the former being a rejected track and the latter two compromising remixes of existing tracks in game). What we don’t know is what levels Unchained Predator and Infernal Chasm play in

[uneven dragon]

Wait Residual isn’t in 2016?

Also Final Sin - Into Sandy’s City wasn’t in Eternal

[mystic barn]

Residual is a choral remix of the melodic synth line in BFG Division, but no, it went unused in game

[uneven dragon]

Damn that’s crazy

[mystic barn]

I don’t consider anything on the CE OST to be official. I prefer my own album order

[uneven dragon]

Didn’t you count Chad’s Khan Maykr in your original message

Though I agree the CE OST is awful

[mystic barn]

Yep, which is in my album order

[uneven dragon]

dang

idk why you’d willingly subject yourself to a chad mossholder remix

[mystic barn]

Because it’s awesome

Chad Mossholder’s remixes for both 2016 and Eternal are great. His arrangement of Mick’s tracks for the CE OST blow so hard though

[stoic sleet]

Is it bad to say i think bfg division is overrated?

[autumn dawn]

noep, not really

your opinion

TOTTIFY is much more overrated

[plain iron]

I don't like mick in general but yk

[mystic barn]

For clarity’s sake, my album order for DOOM Eternal is as follows:

1. Hell on Earth (DOOM Eternal menu theme)
2. The Slayer’s Time Is Now (opening cutscene; E1M1)
3. Divine Punishment (Hell on Earth ambience and combat)
4. Prayer of the Diminished (includes Citadel cutscene music)
5. Meathook
6. The Betrayer
7. Sinister
8. Cultist Base
9. Viceroy to the Chaos Throne (or A Cultist Prayer)
10. The Terrordome (DOOM Hunter Base ambience)
11. doomhunter.wad (DOOM Hunter boss theme, w/ Arrival on Mars remix)
12. Heart Chamber (The Super Gore Nest ambience; does not include E3 ambience)
13. The Super Gore Nest
14. Armored Response Coalition (ARC Complex ambience)
15. Arrival on Phobos (or Command & Control)
16. Command & Control (or Phobos Base)
17. BFG 10K
18. mars_core.pk3 (Mars Core ambience and combat; does not include Asteroids & Rockets or the alternate Mars Core ambience)
19. A Sign of Evil (or Welcome Home Great Slayer)
20. Paradise Lost (Chad Mossholder’s Khan Maykr remix)
21. Calommus V Turna (huge guts cutscene music)
22. Gladiator
23. Fortress of DOOM
24. Metal Hell
25. Soul Processing Chamber (Nekravol ambience)
26. The Singularity (Urdak ambience)
27. Urdak (Urdak combat)
28. Khan Maykr (Khan Maykr boss theme; my mix of this track, unrelated to Chad Mossholder’s remix of the same name)
29. Icon of Sin
30. The Only Thing They Fear Is You

This flows WAY better than the CE OST and removes tracks that went unpaid and should never have been released

[uneven dragon]

:(

[plain iron]

He's honestly mid.

[mystic barn]

That’s bait

[plain iron]

No I genuinely believe he's kinda mid

I prefer Andrew Hulshult

[mystic barn]

You’re breaking my heart here

[uneven dragon]

i think that all composers for doom sound great 😁

[winter idol]

honestly the stuff ive heard from finishing move sounds more my speed

[plain iron]

Definitely.

[winter idol]

although i know meathook is repetitive its still my favorite track in doom eternal

something about the synths hits me right

[uneven dragon]

speaking of andrew

while i love IDKFA and i think it's great that it is part of the latest DOOM + DOOM II release

i roll my eyes soooo hard at some of it 😭

like the music in doom and doom ii is kinda diverse and he turns everything into metal and sometimes it's just extremely funny

that's kind of noticable with modern doom in general though all the music is heavy metal there's not too much variety there

not that that's an issue btw that's clearly the vibe the modern games want

[mystic barn]

In terms of consistency though, I get it. How jarring would it be to go from Running From Evil’s guitar solo into The Healer Stalks smooth jazz? It works in MIDI because none of the instruments sound remotely real, but when translating that to an album, it’d be an insane jump

[uneven dragon]

i suppose yeah

stuff like Countdown to Death is a little silly though 😭

not even remotely the same vibe

also Into Sandy's City in guitar is cool but i do miss the harpsichord sometimes

i don't actually mind IDKFA's The Healer Stalks though i feel it's somewhat of a similar vibe

Message For The Archvile is also a really good cover

[keen blaze]

i dont like the message for the archvile cover cus it completely throws out the guitar solo

[uneven dragon]

oh actually that's kind of true

[silent surge]

it hits right

it’s nice acoustic too

[mystic barn]

It’s doesn’t throw it out - it’s still there, just interpolated with a different instrument

[fleet spruce]

Meathook is awesome but what really hit me was BFG 10k, I was NOT prepared for it when playing eternal for the first time

[keen blaze]

its barely there at all just some of the notes and way slowed down

tiktok reverb version

[modern badger]

trial of maligog was done dirty by how the eye sound effects completely muffle the music

[keen blaze]

so true

[modern badger]

i dont think that was ever fixed

[mystic barn]

Never was, but that’s why gamerips exist

At least the stems weren’t affected in the game files, unlike Storm the Gates

[autumn dawn]

you expect BFG10k to hit the same as BFG Division, then it suddenly throws you around like you're inside a washing machine

[hollow sandal]

The cutscene was so fucking awesome

[autumn dawn]

we were robbed

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[fleet spruce]

I was expecting some other combat track but then its extremely aggressive guitar riffs, immediately i was blown away. Even now when replaying that moment hits me just as hard as it did when game released.

[stoic sleet]

Idk why ppl think Mick gordons style would fit this game

[modern badger]

he would def find a way to make it fit

[stoic sleet]

Still tho

[modern badger]

its the same man who composed ransacked and right trigger warning

[plucky plinth]

tbh I wanted another composer

he hadn't made a good OST since like TNO imo

[modern badger]

finishing move is cooking quite a lot either way

[plucky plinth]

I didn't like most of 2016 and Eternal's OSTs

[barren iron]

I really like Cultist Base

[stoic sleet]

I kinda prefer finishing moves nonstop heavymetal compared to the long synthesiser sections

[plucky plinth]

there's a few select tracks from each game I do like

[keen blaze]

so far the stuff finishing move has been showing sounds like the sound id software was trying to avoid in 2016

[barren iron]

mostly because Cultist Base is structured a lot like a traditional song

[plucky plinth]

Hellwalker, Mastermind (somehow), Cultist Base, and SGN

[stoic sleet]

2016 and eternal are different to tda in theme and style

[keen blaze]

cultist base fucking rocks

[plucky plinth]

there's maybe like 1 or 2 more

[stoic sleet]

Eternal is lime youre a jet, tda is like youre a tank

[keen blaze]

eternal is lime

[modern badger]

there's this bassline that plays in some of the siege videos that sounds so good

[keen blaze]

🍋‍🟩

[stoic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/lime-dancing-lime-gif-13575094

[modern badger]

i think there's a version where it plays a guitar aswell

[stoic sleet]

I never really liked mick gordon if im being honest

I never liked his riffs and synthesiser

[modern badger]

i cant judge the sound of eternal when he was working under those conditions tbf

[stoic sleet]

Yeah but i also didnt like rip and tear or bfg division

[barren iron]

I've gotta respect a dude that sampled a fucking chainsaw

[stoic sleet]

And a lawnmower

[fleet spruce]

Rip & Tear is my personal favourite of 2016 soundtrack

[stoic sleet]

If i had to choose my fav track it would be meathook

[modern badger]

my problem with rip and tear is that the official mix cuts half of the track and removes most of the good riffs

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/0R17jGipMOE?si=-3h6pUv-i7n2b1z4

[modern badger]

yeah koma's mix is probably the best one

the entire section at 3:25 is cut entirely from the official mix

[mystic barn]

I think Koma’s great, but his Rip & Tear mix lacks focus

Same can be said for all of his 2016 mixes really, they don’t flow as well as the OST mixes do. His Damnation and SkullHacker mixes are rather disappointing

[modern badger]

the ingame randomization has its charm even if its janky as hell

[mystic barn]

It really doesn’t work for Rip & Tear, which is composed of MANY 2 second long stems that have barely any connective tissue between one another. If they do share a leitmotif with another stem, it’s rare that they’ll play one after the other because of the randomisation aspect of 2016 and Eternal’s music

[modern badger]

i kinda agree with that

the glory kill interruptions didnt help either

thankfully they saw that and got rid of it in eternal

[mystic barn]

None of those glory kill loops made it into the 2016 OST, so they were a frankly useless addition

[fleet spruce]

makes sense, they're there just to add effect to GKs

[mystic barn]

They would make for good risers or build ups to a chorus, but nope, gone. I think the only example of one being used is in Transistor Fist

[uneven dragon]

like every glitch in eternal

[uneven dragon]

i dont really like his super gore nest mix

idk it just feels a bit like hes throwing everything together and not letting certain parts repeat for long enough

fatmetro probably has my favourite SGN mix though it took me a little bit to get used to it not IMMEDIATELY going into that one part like Chad's mix

[neon perch]

Day 54 of waiting on anyone else other than me to notice they brought back classic Lost Souls in TDA.

[uneven dragon]

me me i noticed ‼️

[mystic barn]

Right up until 5:24, Koma’s mix of The Super Gore Nest is the closest we’ll get to an official mix by Mick. It near seamlessly combines stems and skilfully transitions between core motifs. It falls apart after 5:24, where the light combat feels slapped together haphazardly. How the song progresses from then on is messy. I feel as though fatmetro’s mix is messy throughout, but the real draw is the editing; pristine

[uneven dragon]

maybe this isnt a popular opinion but i feel like fan mixers trying to fit in literally every single part of the song into the mix kinda cripples it

theres a reason why the 2016 ost leaves out a lot of the in game stuff

[mystic barn]

Agreed. With every single stem in the arrangement, The Super Gore Nest comes out to a whopping 14 minutes, and this doesn’t include repeated stems/choruses. My SGN mix is a comfortable 8:42. I try not to go over 9 minutes with my arrangements

[uneven dragon]

youre a little right that fatmetro's editing carries a little lol

i do like how he sometimes adds extra stuff tho like the choir in the world spear

[uneven dragon]

is your sgn mix on youtube somewhere?

[mystic barn]

It was a fantastic addition, but mixed really poorly. If something like choir is added to a song that already features it, then mixing it to be the same volume is wise

[mystic barn]

Nope, but you can listen to it here drive.google .com/file/d/1N4HWaG0LBrHh9Bcg_rWBp3lzTJXkcPyg/view?usp=drivesdk

Just take out the space between google and .com. While superficially similar to Koma’s mix (understandable, as it’s difficult to improve upon perfection), improvements have been made to pace between some stems, volume of the heavy sections, volume adjustments across the board, and features a completely different arrangement at 5:06

[uneven dragon]

awesome

shitttt that was AWESOME

[mystic barn]

I appreciate that, thank you. I gotta give credit to Koma, SPC, and Mick as well

[hard thistle]

the new revenant looks like the reaper

metal af

now lets hope hes actually deadly like the reaper instead of laughably weak like in the previous 2 games

[sterile sage]

When will the story trailer be released?

[scenic lichen]

return the revenant to his doom 2 variant

muahahaha

[mystic barn]

That’s a good question! No idea

[silent surge]

i’m curious to see whenever it is

[woven jolt]

will there be one? I don't think so

the story was already talked about at the developer direct

[hard thistle]

Yeah talked about

There's still a lot we're in the dark on

[modern badger]

its id's biggest game yet and the marketing keeps worrying me

[hard thistle]

I'm not the only who feels like eternal had a much bigger marketing campaign?

[modern badger]

eternals marketing went all the way from the reveal at e3 2018 to its release in 2020

quarantine gave it an insane boost in sales aswell

i truly fear dark ages wont perform nearly as good as eternal did

[hard thistle]

I'm worried about dark ages underperforming and the tone deaf suits at Microsoft giving id the axe

[modern badger]

yeah that whole situation made me think theyd lock in with the marketing side of the game

[woven jolt]

Hugo actually talked about Microsoft being really helpful and giving them enough resources to make Dark Ages, it's a little weird, I'm hoping they do a huge market push in the weeks leading up to the release

[versed stone]

You know, the Void Slayer skin that you'll get from pre-ordering Dark Ages almost makes me want to see an idea of a Praetor Suit upgrade that would've functioned like the black armor upgrade for Zero in Megaman X5, X6, and X8.

Not just the black color but also more defensive and attack properties. And also being a secret.

Either getting it by a cheat code in the menu, or having it avaliable near the end of the game like how the black armor was in X5.

[uneven dragon]

doom is big enough where i dont think TDA can fail

[frail bloom]

Pacing. It's to avoid how spoilery eternal was, I kmew every boss, almost every level, heard the best track, and in the end some things haven't aged well

They promised me biggest best campaign amd I will hold them to that

[prime sentinel]

I don’t really think another major trailer is necessary

[uneven dragon]

idk what theyd even show in another trailer without spoiling even more stuff

[plain iron]

Ik but dawg... I wanna hear at least some story beats

[small jackal]

The hype built for this game off of one trailer ( the announcement) one influencer event. And a developer direct vid is insane. I don’t we will see another one outside of a launch trailer

[uneven dragon]

well we already know abt kreed and all that

[frail bloom]

We've also seen the other 2 villains(as far as we've heard)

[austere nacelle]

guys will we see Doomguy kill a titan without the mech as it says in the lore?

[frail bloom]

If you mean the champion titan than no

[autumn dawn]

probably not, he still doesn't have the crucible

[austere nacelle]

oof

[frail bloom]

No I'm pretty sure this takes ppace after

[autumn dawn]

and i can't imagine him being able to beat up a titan just with his bare hands

[frail bloom]

Cuz he killed the dreadnought when he just left the divinity machine

[austere nacelle]

but the lore says he killed the champion titan with his bum bare

[frail bloom]

So no the dreadnought is subdued by the time the story starts

[austere nacelle]

(the codex)

[autumn dawn]

question is, how?

did the lore state he killed the Dreadnought singlehandedly?

because if not, then he could have been assisted by the Night Sentinels in taking it down, and he finished it off

[austere nacelle]

UAC REPORT FILE ZPHVM41A

None could stand before the horde but the Doom Slayer. Despair spread before him like a plague, striking fear into the shadow-dwellers, driving them to deeper and darker pits. But from the depths of the abyss rose The Great One, a champion mightier than all who had come before. The Titan, of immeasurable power and ferocity. He strode upon the plain and faced the Doom Slayer, and a mighty battle was fought on the desolate plains. The Titan fought with the fury of the countless that had fallen at the Doom Slayer's hand, but there fell the Titan, and in his defeat the shadow horde were routed.

found this in the fandom

slayer's fifth testament

[frail bloom]

That's the champion titan, not the dreadnought, set eons after tda. And no where here does it say it was his bare hands

[austere nacelle]

idk i hear people say he fought the titan with his bare hands

[frail bloom]

Why believe them? Ask for the source cuz no where does it imply it here

[austere nacelle]

also the codex entry does not say he got any assistance

[frail bloom]

He was talking about the dreadnought, but for the champion titan I'm inclined to believe the slayer fought him alone

[austere nacelle]

well yeah I was talking about the champion titan

[frail bloom]

Still, we will not fight him in tda, maybe some other titan

[austere nacelle]

well we see him fight maligogs with the atlan mech

i forgor the name

[frail bloom]

Maligog is the name for a specific titan in the bloodswamps, the big green horned demons are called titans

[austere nacelle]

he's like 0.9 kms tall isnt he?

[frail bloom]

No clue there's a size comparison on youtube check that one

[final dune]

Speaking of the blood swamps, i noticed when i was playing that the titan skulls are a lot more toothy, as in they have more teeth and their teeth are really long

[frail bloom]

Probably the decay or their skeletons are look much different than their body

As the case for many organisms

[austere nacelle]

well i checked the yt comps and they say around 905 meters

which is ginormous ofc

[frail bloom]

Yeah maligog ain't really supposed to fight either way

[wind dew]

Finished another playthough of 2016 now doing Eternal to get ready

[austere nacelle]

E l e v a t o r

[frail bloom]

After eternal play the classics(won't take long)

[plain iron]

Not enough.

[uneven dragon]

why would you want most of the story told to you before the game comes out

[austere nacelle]

Tbh they should have chosen Geoffrey Day for the OSTs instead of whatever they have taken change my mind

[uneven dragon]

we're gonna liquefy you

[austere nacelle]

(I mean for TDA not 2016 or eternal ofc lmao)

since mick is gone

[frail bloom]

#music message

I think you'll change your mind

[plain iron]

No, not most of the story. Just beats. Even the beats of first act

[austere nacelle]

only the drop is good

[frail bloom]

It's the main menu btw

[austere nacelle]

https://youtu.be/B93B4YGsaC4

[frail bloom]

So anything ambient is bad to you?

Omg🙏

Reminds me of that ost tier list on youtube where the guy puts any ambient ost in f tier

I guess eternals theme and 2016's theme is dogwater then

[austere nacelle]

no but like... at least Geoffrey somewhat replicates mick accurately without being a cheap ripoff of him

[frail bloom]

Geoffrey day is literally ripping off mick gordon idk what to tell you

It sounds like super gore nest but re altered

Again it seems like bias and not actually analyzing what you're listening to

[austere nacelle]

uhh everyone is ripping him off which makes sense bcs hes goated

[frail bloom]

I guess mick ripped off meshuggah then

[austere nacelle]

Meshuggah used lawnmowers and chainsaws?

[frail bloom]

Well not exactly but mick's ost has taken inspiration from many metal bands including meshuggah

The whole "he invtented a genre" thing is just silly

[austere nacelle]

no one says he invented a genre but his work hits the hardest without doubt

[frail bloom]

Not really fair to say since you have the entirety of 2016's and eternal's ost while you've listnened to 3 snippets of FM ost, I don't get the unfair comparisons. Me personally, the main menu you just listened to is better than 2016's and eternals theme for me.

[austere nacelle]

nahh bro aint comparing this ost to @ doom's gate

[frail bloom]

?

Mick didn't invent "at dooms gate"

That was bobby prince

[meager vortex]

today doom meme hey guys? do you know who is final boss is? coffin

[frail bloom]

Sadly the meme doesn't apply

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-2016-waking-up-doom-slayer-doom-gif-9088729593492756553

[austere nacelle]

didnt say who invented it just saying the old ost is the goat whoever made it

[meager vortex]

dark lord is not a final boss he just hiding with his own shield he just coward

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-shield-buzzsaw-saw-gif-9442590416015906813

true shield owner

[sterile sage]

Is it easier than Eternal nightmare even if I increase the tda difficulty slider to its maximum?

[meager vortex]

sure

[frail bloom]

Well duh it was one of the most varied soundtracks out there, all the nu doo m games have to do is reference them, which the new soundtrack has done if you got to hear some of them. I've heard:

Running from Evil
Countdown to Death
The imp's song
Dark Halls
Maybe smt else I forgor

More to come too!

[frail bloom]

How is anyone supposed to know?

[austere nacelle]

oh yeah also dont forget the rather underrated OSTs that mick made like Harbinger

[frail bloom]

Ask Hugo

[frail bloom]

Harbinger is one giant reference track and I love it

[sterile sage]

There's someone who's played demo.

[frail bloom]

Did they play the whole game?

[austere nacelle]

harbinger is indeed one of the under-the-radar goats

I believe it actually has the hardest riff ever out of all doom osts

though its short

[frail bloom]

Is it the beginning?

Cuz that's doom 3's menu theme

[mystic barn]

Geoffrey Day is definitely a cheap knockoff. Nothing against him, he just makes unoriginal music

[frail bloom]

I agree, nothing against him but c'mon...

[austere nacelle]

true but mick really remastered it so damn well

[mystic barn]

Same can be said for Andy Strider. They piggyback off Mick’s name for their own personal success

[austere nacelle]

and lets not forget hellwalker

[frail bloom]

No one forgets hellwalker, but Mick isn't the only composer out there. Extend your tastes and you'll find a much larger world of music out there

[austere nacelle]

well maybe i just prefer old stuff but ur right ig

[silent surge]

TDA plays differently so it’ll be more an adjustment period than 2016 to eternal

i say that but it still has eternal AND classic AND 2016 in its DNA though

i only tried uv down, didn’t adjust sliders. playing different settings basically meant different sliders

[austere nacelle]

but still mick is the goat no questions asked

[frail bloom]

I bet when the next doom game comes out you'll be asking for Finishing Move, that's how confident I am

Lemme send you a vid

[silent surge]

watch out saying that in the comment sections of videos!!!1

[frail bloom]

https://youtu.be/syDVdO1XsJA?feature=shared

[mystic barn]

God forbid one is a little excited for something new and different

[frail bloom]

@austere nacelle try watching the vid above

All of it btw it's important to the discussion

[frail bloom]

I will walk the divide in which no demon has

[austere nacelle]

Man i will only be happy if FM and the rest cook but still at this point i will be more interested in the gameplay and lore etc than the OSTs based off what I hear for now unlike in 2016 and eternal

but I do have faith in the upcoming soundtracks

[frail bloom]

Good to hear man

[austere nacelle]

thing is both doom 2016 and eternal gained like roughly 50-60% their reputation due to their OSTs and now TDA is gaining its own reputation just for the game itself rather than the music which is both good and bad

[mystic barn]

That’s not at all true

[frail bloom]

Damn you a time traveler

[austere nacelle]

Well again, based off what I'm seeing (FOR NOW).

but i certainly recall more people ranting about the old OSTs more than they do now before release

[frail bloom]

For now, sure. For the game? We don't know

[austere nacelle]

But again, it could be a good thing anyways for TDA since people might concentrate on the GAME and LORE itself rather than its good OSTs

[frail bloom]

Or both, y'know

[austere nacelle]

Best way is 50/50 balance indeed

[frail bloom]

Both have hard work put in them, so if you praise one you praise the other(if that makes sense).

[austere nacelle]

facts my friend

One of the reasons I like Doom in general is to assert dominance over the cringey indy animations we have nowadays and their fandoms

[frail bloom]

Indy animation?

Wut's that

[austere nacelle]

oh stuff like hazbin hotel and all that junk

once again my personal opinion

we need masculinity in this era of cringiness

[frail bloom]

All fandoms are cringe, and "asserting dominance" jist doesn't sound good in any context ever

Just enjoy what you enjoy and leave them to their devices

No "asserting"necassary( however you spell that)

[austere nacelle]

true but like i see their fanart splattered all over random non-fan related servers that is why

[frail bloom]

Can happen for the doom fandom too, just in different ways

[austere nacelle]

and you know what kind of fanart they have... I better not say lol

[frail bloom]

Just go to artwork and scroll

Have fun!

[austere nacelle]

"They are brutal, cringe, and without drip... but You will be based..."

[fleet spruce]

no such thing as community without bad apples, what differs is their amount

[austere nacelle]

and the amount of bad apples in the indy fandoms is... well........

[sterile sage]

Sry Samir

[autumn dawn]

i couldn't resist

https://tenor.com/view/ruan-mentioned-gif-23876676

[plain iron]

Yeah well there's nazis in the doom fandom as well 😭

[austere nacelle]

except less

[plain iron]

Indie fandoms have mainly weird people, not nazis

[austere nacelle]

accurate

[plain iron]

I don't think there's been a week here that there hasn't been a random ass nazi/queerphobe/racist pop up and get banned

Indie fandoms just have weird folk

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/8msJ5BsLGBE?si=xyvcyuVC9aR3X3Gq

[autumn dawn]

i think there was at least one week, but tbf you're more active here than me

[sterile sage]

Do you think there's an archvile in the tda?

[fleet spruce]

Should be

Would be weird without archvile, even 2016 had substitute called Summoner

[mystic barn]

What’s the bet that the green squid man in robes is The Dark Ages’ Arch-Vile

[fleet spruce]

Looks like some kind of sorcerer type enemy

with ranged attacks

[autumn dawn]

haven't seen it, but that green squid man in robes sounds like a Maykr

[uneven dragon]

wait i dont think ive seen that guy yet

[mystic barn]

I’ve said too much

[uneven dragon]

i wonder if this game is gonna take a lot from a previous doom game

like how Doom 2016 is a Doom 1 "reboot" and Doom Eternal is a Doom 2 "reboot"

it's not really following Doom 64 that much so this might just be purely its own thing

no mother demon refight 🥲

[plain iron]

Hrrr i hope not. Maybe the same thing as rhe new caco

[uneven dragon]

and The Ancient Gods is a Final Doom "reboot"

[autumn dawn]

completely new design and just slap the name of an existing monster on it

[plain iron]

Also if the cacos are found in hell then they're not maykrs

[autumn dawn]

list off examples of this being applied well

[plain iron]

Maykrs physically cannot enter hell

[austere nacelle]

Dumb example this, but here we go: Once I looked up on yt baldi's basics song (just out of nostalgia) in 2024 and lo and behold came FPE. I'm like, wow, this is something new, what is this and wth does it have to do with baldi's basics? Now when you see something new you generally check out the fandoms just for fun. And well in came the horrible fanarts and fanfics made by 10 yr old kids. And just like that FPE's animator got pissed the hell off and deleted his/her YT and X account after all the fanwork+ ruined baldi's basics OG rep

example of how fandoms can ruin entire people's careers

[autumn dawn]

kids below 13 should not be allowed to touch the internet

[austere nacelle]

nobody can regulate that unfortunately

[autumn dawn]

it's inevitable for kids to just randomly make NSFW of TADC Baldi's Basics FNAF Poppy Playtime Sprunki etc.

and actual members of those fandoms that make meaningful works such as art, music, and others are forced to watch in horror

(Sprunki not included fuck that)

[plain iron]

The baldi's basic song was made by the living tombstone iirc, very fun band

[autumn dawn]

ik, especially the Red Version

[plain iron]

Me when the living tombstone

Did you know they're now a bit like daft punk now?

[autumn dawn]

ahh no

[austere nacelle]

ik but now the song gets associated more with FPE now, and FPE's fandom is fucked as hell

[austere nacelle]

nostalgia do be insane

[vagrant path]

The moment a doom game is announced the /pol/ gremlins come out of hiding

[mystic barn]

For whatever reason, there’s a certain sect of people who think DOOM - a strongly anti-capitalist series - is for them; it’s not

[plain iron]

SOMEONE WHO AGREES OH MY GOD

Genuinely doom is lowkey so anti corporate

[plain iron]

They never do research into who id software are and who they support 💀

They act as if there's not a disabled woman, black dude [Commander valen, he looks black at least] a Asian [intern], and they act as if they don't know that id software are incredibly supportive, same w John Romero

Like dawg 😭

I should email John Romero and ask if doomguy is trans. [Yes ik he doesn't have a say on doom anymore. It's just shits and giggles]

[mystic barn]

Lowkey wouldn’t be the adjective I’d use; it’s almost painful how obvious the hate for megacorporations is

[plain iron]

And then they have the audacity to say "oh doom isn't political" 💀

Mf it's the most political game I play

[mystic barn]

Those same people will go on to bitch about the new Wolfenstein series as being too woke. You mean the series about killing Nazis? Yikes

[plain iron]

Wait no that might be fallout

Or Detroit become human

[heady jacinth]

course it's woke! if it were asleep you couldn't play it! XD

[vagrant path]

Wait is valen black?

[plain iron]

He looks black 😭

[vagrant path]

he looked more mediteranien to me

[plain iron]

Lemme find a photo of this fucker

[vagrant path]

he's like white as hell in eternal though

I know that for sure

[austere nacelle]

he prob european

[mystic barn]

Valen’s a black man

[austere nacelle]

southern euro

[plain iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1361968032112443413/image0.webp?ex=6800af12&is=67ff5d92&hm=dd9d340c8534b6710f32cb7b3f286dc56375521b01b98d41a3acbb1e834e2bd2&

His finalised concept art is a black dude 😭

[austere nacelle]

his build and face is that of a black but skin reminds me of a southern european or mediterranean

[mystic barn]

He’s black

[plain iron]

So he's a pale black dude

His actor is even black

[austere nacelle]

he looks like one in eternal lmao

[plain iron]

His hair is even of a black persons

[mystic barn]

I could see an argument for Pacific Islander though

[plain iron]

Oh definitely

As a native Australian [close enough] he definitely looks like one

Anyways, still a person of colour.

They act as if it's crime that a woman is in TDA

[austere nacelle]

Olivia pierce: am i joke to you?

[heady jacinth]

wildcard possibility: Maori

[plain iron]

Bro there's been women in every game bar 64 and 1/2 😭

YES.

[austere nacelle]

Khan Mayker: am i joke to you?

[plain iron]

Or Samoan

[austere nacelle]

Whiplash: am i a joke to you?

[plain iron]

Literally that many women in doom

[heady jacinth]

there was a woman in 1,2 and 64
(it was me i was crawling around chewing on code)

[plain iron]

The spider demon and spider mastermind 😭

OH AND THE MOTHER OF DEMONS

[austere nacelle]

spider mastermind is female?

[plain iron]

Like vro 💔

[fleet spruce]

Probably some tourists trying to steer up shit, not the first time such things happen

[plain iron]

She's referred to as a female lol

[heady jacinth]

what if the mother of demons was a seahorse situation that would be interesting i think

[plain iron]

That's what I think maykrs are like

"God forbid a woman has hobbies"
- Olivia as she kills a cultist probably

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-guy-doom-the-dark-ages-cute-gif-12753411322836635057

slay queen

[plain iron]

He'd also say that as he removes a demon's spine

[woven jolt]

yo @warm ibex, do you remember any of the upgrades for the chainshot gun?

[sleek ermine]

It was like the last weapon in the demo

I don’t think they got any upgrades for it 🤔

[woven jolt]

idk

[warm ibex]

Each Reaver shot has to be charged to reach maximum damage and range. The first upgrade will give you a maximum charge after a successful parry

[uneven dragon]

A lot of Doom fans are weirdly sexist I’ve noticed

[woven jolt]

is there one for going thru multiple enemies? like fodder, would be sick

[warm ibex]

I don't know what the other two were, sorry man

didn't look at them

[woven jolt]

imagine

[uneven dragon]

The reaver chainshot looks so awesome

[sleek ermine]

A power weapon to be used on fodder? (There’s a shield that can do the same thing without any upgrades or progress I think)

[woven jolt]

well, what if you want to throw the shield and use the chainshot for multiple fodder 🤔🤔

[sleek ermine]

There’s probably better alternatives

[sleek ermine]

Rather than a weapon that charges up

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875929282084478977/1361976841715585225/image.png?ex=6800b747&is=67ff65c7&hm=52df42330bd1662fde46074f79d8bb856b567b84061c93e626b74b42014e7ee7&

here's the upgrade icons

[plain iron]

... a atom sign. That doesn't sound fun

[sleek ermine]

Charge nuclear bomb?
And also armor breaker

[sleek ermine]

It’s not really an atom sign, it’s more of a mushroom cloud

[woven jolt]

were there no options, like the other guns? you could choose 1 of 2

[plain iron]

It's a very odd phenomenon imo

[warm ibex]

above the armor

[plain iron]

The one above 😭

[sleek ermine]

Oh

[plain iron]

Both things arw interesting tho

[sleek ermine]

Maybe shredding enemy armor at atomic levels?

[uneven dragon]

wait Horde did u play TDA

[warm ibex]

The Reaver will only have one variant, from what I understand. Info comes from both Tyler Mcvicker and Midnight's Hugo interviews

[sleek ermine]

Yes he did

[uneven dragon]

Best observed with Doom Annihilation

[woven jolt]

I meant for the upgrades

[warm ibex]

No split upgrade tracks

[plain iron]

Idk if it falls under sexism but I'm often ridiculed for thinking Olivia is pretty

[woven jolt]

huh, cause the shotguns and stuff have them

[uneven dragon]

@warm ibex sorry if this is kind of a random question but do you know if the Arachnotrons in TDA are referred to with the word “Mindweaver” at any point? Someone on DoomWorld said they were but I haven’t seen it anywhere

[uneven dragon]

i think she looked prettier as the mastermind personally

[plain iron]

LoR folk are eating good it seems lol

[sleek ermine]

Reaver Chainshot would be too OP with 2 tracks

[uneven dragon]

LoR fans have deluded themselves into imagining a meal

[woven jolt]

@warm ibex also, idk if you know, but Hugo confirmed the dlc will be its own story, separate from the base game

[plain iron]

Literally me believing Samur will be in TDA

[warm ibex]

I'm fairly certain they're just called Arachnotrons. The Mindweaver is an enemy name that was mentioned during a Hugo interview and I think people kinda just associate it with the Arachnotron for some reason

[sleek ermine]

Just like TAG 1 and 2

[warm ibex]

exactly

[uneven dragon]

Wait in what interview did Hugo say Mindweaver?

[warm ibex]

Midnight's interview

[uneven dragon]

People associate it w/ the Arachnotron cause they have machine guns in TDA and there’s an Arachnotron with a machine gun in Legacy of Rust called the Mindweaver

[sleek ermine]

Big Fucking Sword is FAKE

[plain iron]

I mean. It would make sense.

[uneven dragon]

we might be so back…..

[plain iron]

But also. Mindweaver sounds like a maykr thing

[uneven dragon]

thanks for the info I didn’t know about that interview :)

[warm ibex]

no problem!

[warm ibex]

I honestly completely forgot about those guys lol

[uneven dragon]

I will be a little disappointed if they reused an enemy name in literally the very next game that comes out

[uneven dragon]

they’re so annoying

[plain iron]

I also wouldn't be shocked if it was a potential name for the cacodemon

[uneven dragon]

i don’t think a Chaingunner needed a stronger variant lol

[uneven dragon]

I guess but I think it would’ve been called that in that teaser video

[warm ibex]

Mindweaver would be a cool name for this dude https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875929282084478977/1361978794298052740/image.png?ex=6800b918&is=67ff6798&hm=b14ca3a52beb0db29fb8b0350dcc54cbdfda37bf5f785c1989148cbfd1e8b808&

[uneven dragon]

oh THATS the green tentacle monster people were talking about

[sleek ermine]

That looks like one

[uneven dragon]

I do hope the Mindweaver name is used for the Arachnotron cause I would love for Legacy of Rust to be referenced but… I doubt it lol

I suppose this is revenge for Legacy of Rust reusing the name “Ghoul” for another demon :P

[plain iron]

Pirates of the Caribbean looking ass

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-eyebrow-raise-gif-23550103

[plain iron]

LITERALLY THO

[woven jolt]

the only thing I'm concerned with tda is that they focused too much on story and, therefore, not enough on gameplay, but that's really my only concern, everything else looks great

[sleek ermine]

Story is good

[woven jolt]

yeah, but I've only played doom for the guns lol

[plain iron]

I think folk forget that there's a multitude of people working on the game 😭 it's not like there's 2 dudes doing everything

[woven jolt]

nah, it's just Hugo and Marty

[warm ibex]

id Software not focusing on gameplay is never a concern anyone should have

[plain iron]

Like have you seen how long eternal's credits are

[woven jolt]

true, but they've never really made anything this large with so many cutscenes

[plain iron]

Sitting thru tag 2's credits just to hear the intern thanking us 😔

[warm ibex]

playing it on loop every night before I go to bed

[wheat sigil]

nah i played tda in my dream today, and it's peam...

[uneven dragon]

I’m just hoping it’ll be a good story if they’re gonna focus on it so much

And not another eternal/tag moment

(Mostly TAG)

[warm ibex]

now THAT'S a good concern lol

[woven jolt]

cutscenes in Eternal felt forced, especially if you didn't read the codex

[plain iron]

I love reading the codex

[warm ibex]

if only I could read

[plain iron]

I'm so happy we still get it in TDA [I think]

[woven jolt]

yeah, but I guarantee like 85% of people didn't lol

[uneven dragon]

Yeah a lot of my issue with Eternal is that you CAN skip the codex and stuff but then what’s happening is just nonsensical

2016 is still understandable without reading into the full story

[warm ibex]

codex pages are still very much there!

[plain iron]

[warm ibex]

not readable in the press demo :(

[uneven dragon]

like imagine how a dude who’s skipping the codex feels when they see King Novik in Exultia lmao

[plain iron]

Let's fucking go I get to sit down and read about random lore

[woven jolt]

a page was leaked, I could dm you it

[plain iron]

DM IT TO ME

[wheat sigil]

as a dude who didn't read the codex i thought it was the doomguy's old king or something and didn't care

[plain iron]

GIMMIE

[uneven dragon]

as long as the story isn’t delivered as badly as “Dr Hayden is the Seraphim!!! He’s been with us the whole time!!! ” we should be fine

[woven jolt]

give me a sec

[plain iron]

Leave the pookie outta this

[uneven dragon]

Look i just think Intern should stfu sometimes </3

stating the obvious </3

[plain iron]

He's a excited little guy

[uneven dragon]

yeah but I CAN SEE HES THE SERAPHIM

[heady jacinth]

id like to hit samur with my car

[uneven dragon]

I WATCHED HIM TURN INTO HIM BEFORE MY VERY EYES!!

[plain iron]

I'd like to break samur's wings.

Curb stomping them hoes

[uneven dragon]

Somehow Samuel and Vega not being in TDA gives me a lot of hope for its story

[plain iron]

Samur might be there

[uneven dragon]

In general the returning characters give me hope because they’re ones who make sense to be there

i don’t want another seraphim retcon

[plain iron]

Retcon what 😭

[uneven dragon]

Didn’t Hugo say he was done? Someone said that but they may have just been saying stuff

[uneven dragon]

Idk maybe he’s also somehow the wretch inexplicably 😭😭😭 you never know

[plain iron]

He was there in that time period

Even as a flashback maybe

[uneven dragon]

Dr Hayden is EVERY WRAITH IN EXISTENCE he’s been with us the whole time!!!!!!

[plain iron]

"SAMUEL HAYDEN IS THE WRETCH"
- Commander Thira probably

[uneven dragon]

oh wait we never found out who the wretch actually was right? so that’s probably gonna be shown in this game right??

idk if it’s prequelling 2016 I’m expecting something from that codex to show up and we know it isn’t the Titan or the sarcophagus so

and we already saw the seraphim

[plain iron]

I personally want to learn what the fuck the battle of isonkast was

It's maykr lore so we might never know

[woven jolt]

if anyone wants to view the leaked codex page from dark ages, send me a DM

[plain iron]

It's actually really cool lmao

[woven jolt]

right, especially learning why the chainshot is so powerful

[woven jolt]

oh, wait

I pasted the wrong thing lol

[plain iron]

Lmfao

[uneven dragon]

I’m cooked I already forgot where that was mentioned

[plain iron]

It's the reason the seraphs don't have wings.

Metaphorical or literal we don't know

[sleek ermine]

Samur got wings

[plain iron]

In his transfigured form, and he was favoured by the father more

[uneven dragon]

ok I need a refresher is the IOS in Eternal the same one in II or a new one, I forgot if the betrayer’s son was just used to like.. revive the one from II, or if he was used to make a new one

[sleek ermine]

Anyway

[plain iron]

Revived him via the son

[sleek ermine]

Mind control the son to control the Titan

[uneven dragon]

Baphomet really got steamrolled thrice huh

[plain iron]

Folded like wet paper smh

[uneven dragon]

four times actually

dude just can’t get a win

[sleek ermine]

UAC Spokesperson: “Lemmy is god!”
Markiplier: “Who Lemmy?”

[uneven dragon]

i like to think the titans turning blue in Eternal when they get crucibled is the explanation for wtf was going on with the Icon in TNT

that’s why his skull started glowing blue

[uneven dragon]

Is Plutonia the same guy? Does that make it five times?

I’m pretty sure that dude is a different Titan (The Gatekeeper) that just uses the same monster cause Final Doom didn’t add anything new

I wonder who the final boss of TDA will be because I doubt it’ll be the Mother Demon

So it’ll be someone entirely new

I can’t think of anyone notable in the codex that it could be

[woven jolt]

Hugo said Ahzrak will be the main villain, so most likely him

[wheat sigil]

they introduce the multiverse and the final boss is actually just a slayer vs slayer match

[uneven dragon]

we already did that in TAG 2

[wheat sigil]

no

[sleek ermine]

No?

[uneven dragon]

oh true

[uneven dragon]

Well not the multiverse bit but

The Slayer v Slayer thing

[wheat sigil]

you faced a slow moving boring bossfight not actually leaning into what made eternal strong, not another player on the same skill level

[uneven dragon]

uh huh

Doom 64 is Hugo’s favourite yet it’s the only game they’re not doing a reboot of curious

[woven jolt]

are you talking about the davoth fight?

[wheat sigil]

yes

[woven jolt]

yeah, it could've been better lol

[wheat sigil]

it was incredibly far away from facing another player

[wheat sigil]

and that lmao, it sucked

[uneven dragon]

I enjoyed the Davoth fight but it’s not the type of bossfight that character should’ve been

[woven jolt]

he needed to be faster, and you should've been able to attack him anytime, but maybe only stun when his eyes turn green

[uneven dragon]

Something like Jakob or V2 would be my preference

[merry lion]

Big Marauder

[wheat sigil]

essentially, he should've been completely overhauled and not even resembling the fight he is now!

[wheat sigil]

no, the marauder is actually good lol

[uneven dragon]

mfw I jump in the air and get hit by his explosive ballista shot (I have mere moments to live)

[plucky oxide]

will the game force ray tracing? i was looking at the specs on steam before i buy it and yikes

[uneven dragon]

pretty sure yeah

[wheat sigil]

issuse with the dark lord is that the ai is simple and boring, it's 5 phases of waiting and then dpsing
he didn't focus on important aspects of eternal, unlike other bosses
there's no platforming or other things going on, making it very mundane

[woven jolt]

yeah, but apparently ray-tracing is also being used for gameplay and not just graphics

[scenic lichen]

I hate the Davoth fight with every bit of my existence

It’s such an insulting boss for our current end to the franchise

Some days I pretend tag 2 doesn’t exist besides the sentinel hammer

[dusty dagger]

Imo the dark Lord fight should of had one final part where Davoth and Doomslayer just drop their weapons and have a cool hand to hand combat fight sequence, Davoth leaves his mech and fights the Slayer throwing hands. Would of been better than what we got

Then again it would of been weird to just drop some hand to hand melee combat mechanics right at the end of the game

[plucky oxide]

how would it even be used for gameplay

[scenic lichen]

There’s so much that could’ve been better about tag2 as a whole imo and I dont blame them for what they gave us given that they had to work through the worst of covid remotely but I will say it was an odd choice in the first place to leave the arc with the dark lord of all characters to dlc

[wheat sigil]

yeah, tag2 was.... yeah...

[wheat sigil]

the dark lord should've been completely reworked

[scenic lichen]

I mean, it just feels weird to me, the dark lord is john hell himself but that whole thing is wrapped up in 3 missions for what sounds better fitted for a potential eternal sequel

[wheat sigil]

it didn't even need to be any epic boss, just something good

[dusty dagger]

Hey on the bright side, it can always be reconned and conveniently "TAG isn't cannon/is an alternate ending to the Doomslayers story"

[scenic lichen]

a lot of people suggest spectacle this spectacle that I just wanted a mechanically complex boss that was fun to fight at any skill level

Icon of sin was just way better for me

[woven jolt]

so, from what the devs said, it will help keep track of what bullets hit, so for example, the game will be able to tell if a bullet hits the edge of armor next to pure flesh sticking out, it's kinda complicated

[scenic lichen]

I feel like TAG should’ve been an epilogue to eternal but also a prologue to an eternal sequel featuring Davoth as the main villain

[wheat sigil]

something that would've immensely improved it would've been to add less enemies

add 2-3 and make them actually somewhat good without completely broken ai

[sleek ermine]

I mean, the story of it is canon and it’s ending, just the gameplay isn’t the greatest

[plucky oxide]

So they're probably going to be using the ray tracing light rays as a vessel for bullet ricochets

[woven jolt]

something like that

[fleet spruce]

imo Tag should have ended on part 1 and part 2 being a full game set entirely in hell , ending with Davoth fight obviously.

[scenic lichen]

I honestly think retconning tag 2 wouldn’t be a bad idea because it leaves so much more open for what happens after eternal but it’s probably very unlikely

[scenic lichen]

Strongly agree

I’ve been feeling like that since tag 2 came out

[uneven dragon]

TAG is just the modern version of Final Doom

One part is peak and the other part is complete dogshit

[uneven dragon]

I think that would be kinda lame I’d prefer for them to just go back and touch up TAG 2 sometime

[unborn field]

Hey Guys how Is everybody doing?

[fleet spruce]

doing great

[unborn field]

It's kinda strange i Pre-Order Doom The Dark Ages Collection in march... And i was trying to contact Bethesda about my order and they told me like All the shipping will start 9th may oh Well... I still need to wait then...

[meager vortex]

https://youtu.be/EVNEIjeE1g4

can't wait

1month left

here we go~

[fossil cape]

If The Dark Ages takes place in a sci-fi medivial setting, could this pave way for Heretic's reboot?

[uneven dragon]

please

I remember when some people thought the Seraphim was that wizard dude from Hexen

[plain iron]

[merry lion]

The Seraphim is totally D’Sparil dude! They’re both…red! And wear hoods!

[fleet spruce]

The Dark Ages will still have tech bases , highly technological weaponry and cybernetically enhanced demons. Meanwhile Hexen is basically medieval fantasy, and I don't really see Hexen receiving much attention outside of rumours.

Can we get Raven out of the CoD mines already

[barren iron]

…Did you think you were going to get access to the game the instant you or ordered it?

[graceful lion]

you arent a content creator bro, you dont get to play THAT early

[unborn field]

No of course not i know the game will be only available 15 May...i just meant the Collection of the doomslayer what i ordered...

[unborn field]

I didnt meant that... I All ask about the Collection not about the game playing early

[harsh egret]

on the product page it does say that the package should be expected to arrive on or by the 12th

[languid granite]

whoever made the revenant design for doom tda cooked hard

but the doom eternal one...

WHERE DID THEY GO WRONG THAT WAS A MAJOR DOWNGRADE???

[proper kiln]

I cant wait for dark ages

[merry lion]

I think it’s the eyes

[solemn wyvern]

Dick punch

[barren iron]

a lot of the demons in Eternal look kinda goofy

[uneven dragon]

which works for some of them and doesn’t for some of them

[uneven dragon]

THE ARACHNOTRONS IN THE DARK AGES HAVE RED EYES LIKE MINDWEAVERS AND NOT BLUE LIKE DOOM II AND ETERNAL

MY DELUSIONS… ARE BEING FED…

[fleet spruce]

No no, you're definitely onto something there

[merry lion]

They are mindweavers in our hearts

[barren iron]

the pinkies are so funny in Eternal, I don't fear them, I want to adopt one

[uneven dragon]

The Pinkies and Cacodemons kinda stop being scary when you can one shot them

[fleet spruce]

blood punch to instantly get rid of the moving obstacle

[hollow sandal]

I will be calling them min-dreavers

Good day.

[woven jolt]

it was actually because of the lighting. some demons looked like plastic dolls.

[graceful lion]

unstoppable force meets blood punch

[graceful lion]

well, doom sort of has a cartooney style to it

[modern badger]

I hope there are upgrades that make jumping more useful in combat

[delicate grotto]

Yeah that reminds me, pretty sure Hugo shared some info on that. Iirc, he said they have a global light source that’s attached to them or something, so they’re always slightly illuminated. It’s to help players see, given how fast paced the game is.

[fleet spruce]

I saw people ranting in comments under TDA videos that eternal is "colorful shit" , which is funny because classic games are colorful

[modern badger]

I think it was specifically a pbr material, to simulate fake lights

[graceful lion]

arcade-y would be a better word i think for de

so yes like the old games

but a game being colorful doesnt make it bad, as you can see with doom eternal

and like, a fuck ton of other games

[fleet spruce]

some people just want the shades of silver and red, brown , orange unfortunately

[fleet spruce]

Exactly, there's visual clarity, feedback on actions and enemies not blending into environments

[grave cave]

yea! its dooms original personality basically

[silent surge]

people will always find something to complain about

[graceful lion]

hey, did you know that doom the WOKE ages has a WOMAN IN IT with a MALE CHIN?!?!?! 😱, ignore the fact that the argenta are human adjacent and dont apply to human standards

crazy rigthz11

[plain iron]

Clearly they're little bitches. Can't handle a true scary goth baddie smh 😔

[sleek ermine]

We must fucking ban YorchTorchGames

[sleek ermine]

Very specific

[graceful lion]

oh yeah thats the guy i was mocking

some other dude compared thira to that goat woman creature from dragon age : the veilguard

[plain iron]

Everyone wants a muscular woman until they're actually muscular and masculine from it

[graceful lion]

so true 💔

[plain iron]

"I want a muscle mommy!1@1112!"
muscular woman appears. Masculine
"Waaa waaa my hypersexualised idea of a muscular woman doesn't align with anatomy waaa waaa"

[graceful lion]

i think its more that they want women with big tits

like damn bro im sorry they gave previous characters more detail

[sleek ermine]

“We want muscular women”
When given muscular woman:
“Waaa too masculine need more feminine”

[plain iron]

Which is nigh impossible for a muscular woman 😭 boobs are made from fat. They will get smaller the more muscular they get.

[sleek ermine]

Seriously true

[graceful lion]

they keep saying that women in some games appeal to a certain agenda, yet they want women to appeal to their own agenda

[sleek ermine]

If (you are a creep and want these kinds of things) you want that (which uh why), most creeps would go for fat

[graceful lion]

not really fair is it?

[sleek ermine]

Never do this shit

[harsh egret]

new slayer skin revealed, comes with xbox limited edition bundle #screenshots

[final dune]

That's all for today?

[harsh egret]

no, thats just an xbox announcement

[harsh egret]

new post prob in 1 minute rn

hugo and marty xbox controller unboxing

[final dune]

Guh

Any new ost in there?

[harsh egret]

idm, i could listen to hugo talk about their design choices for hours

[harsh egret]

nope

[final dune]

Guh

Can you send the URL?

[harsh egret]

actually i guess an extended version of one of the tracks

cant

[final dune]

Guh

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1362074095948267571/ssstwitter.com_1744814137090.mp4?ex=680111da&is=67ffc05a&hm=a96c41a22065ccce39a16a5831f474d9addbba7cb71f405baaa44fa3b0091a1d&

here

[shut whale]

I'm sad about the Doom controller being limited edition 😭. I wish they would keep this stocked. I hope it is restocked in future 🙏.

[lament grove]

Dont even have an xbox but gonna buy it rn 👅

[harsh egret]

they said you can keep checking, inventory is still loading up

[shut whale]

@harsh egret u mean it be restocked

[harsh egret]

yeah

[shut whale]

@harsh egret hopefully it's stayed restocked in future because I want to buy it if I can

[harsh egret]

its in store in the eu xbox store in case ur from eu

[shut whale]

@harsh egret I'm not from eu. I'm here in U.S

[lament grove]

Ordered 💪

[hollow sandal]

I'm at work and can't listen. Did it have any other features?

Like haotic feedback or something else?

[harsh egret]

idk, in their vid they just talked about the design choices while making it and stuff

u can look at their xbox page maybe

[lament grove]

comes with a skin too apparently unless im reading wrong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125516357602127892/1362078892164382720/image.png?ex=68011652&is=67ffc4d2&hm=5e70be1ce3a8069287680b46cf4b2ff636712baae2d14529a9a9d5958f0008bb&

[harsh egret]

yh #screenshots

exactly

[lament grove]

thats peak

[plain iron]

Fuck.

[sleek ermine]

What

Is it time to regret getting it on non PC?

[plain iron]

I don't have a pc lmao, I use a console

My ps5 is my baby

[sleek ermine]

Time to get that controller

[plain iron]

It's for xbox only yeah?

[graceful lion]

you should be able to get it if you bought the controller

[plain iron]

Cuz that is genuinely a super cool controller

[graceful lion]

they likely give you a code or a link to redeem it, or if ur signed into ur bethesda account while buying it they will say "you also get a slayer skin!!"

you can probably send bethesda a code or talk to them to get the skin once u buy the controller

[plain iron]

Hrrr she'll be right. I don't need all doom things

[grim cloud]

so the xbox skin, xbox version of the game only i take it?

[barren iron]

that controller is hot

[grim cloud]

i dont even know wtf a elite controller is

[graceful lion]

nah, that wont make sense

[barren iron]

it's the higher end Xbox series controller

It has better buttons, sticks, mappable paddles, etc

[graceful lion]

if you buy the exclusive tda controller, you get the skin

platform shouldnt matter as this probably has a bethesda sign in thing

[grim cloud]

One would think right?

[graceful lion]

no, that is what the description of the controller says

it does not say "exclusive to xbox only"

that would just be a dick move

[frail bloom]

@sterile sage no ur ok, no worries

[frail bloom]

I would be pissed ngl

[hard thistle]

The Marty Hugo show 🔥🔥🔥

I ordered mine immediately

[shut whale]

Which is better to order the Xbox wireless controller or Xbox elite wireless controller 2?

[hard thistle]

Elite has the back paddles I'm pretty sure

I'm not dropping 200 on that tho

[shut whale]

@hard thistle so the wireless controller is better

[harsh egret]

the elite one is the better controller, but its just more expensive

[shut whale]

@harsh egret really because I heard the directional button isn't good

[hollow sandal]

I like back paddles

[harsh egret]

i heard people say the buttons and stuff are better

so i take their word for it, since i never played on xbox

[grim cloud]

200 dollars for a controller seems outrageous

[harsh egret]

ye

200 dollars for a controller or 200 dollars for collectors edition TDA hmm.....

[shut whale]

Wow so no one has a problem with directional button for elite 2

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1362097191174537358/Controller-DLC-f3006b08dc7b24f144ec.png?ex=6801275c&is=67ffd5dc&hm=e91fee01251d4c549cf25a8a2d2d90e68c647558d9cc9df7c46d708c0ae4c3b1&

I haven't seen anyone post the high quality Executioner Slayer in this chat

[placid saffron]

that's a pretty good skin

[harsh egret]

#screenshots get fkd

[grim cloud]

4 weeks

[harsh egret]

[warm ibex]

that ain't this chat

[harsh egret]

i linked it here cuz i have no perms sadge

[warm ibex]

neither do I

[shut whale]

@warm ibex that's a cool skin I wonder wat shield skin we will get

[harsh egret]

i think it doesnt look too crazy, but in game it could look sick

[grim cloud]

there is also skins for your dragon and mech. Will we find matching sets?

[harsh egret]

its the same illustration from like last year just colored diff

[warm ibex]

I'm not over the moon or anything. Awesome skin, but just a red recolor

[grim cloud]

and mathcing weapon sets? have to have it all right?

[harsh egret]

id think they wouldve said so if they did

[warm ibex]

wondering if we'll get model changes this time

[grim cloud]

at the very least, i hope they give us the classic suits and eternal praetor, ect

[harsh egret]

give me fat slayer

[graceful lion]

it probably looks even better ingame

[solar drift]

It's interesting that this Executioner skin is the first to have the mark of the Slayer on the helmet. Not even the default design has it, unlike the past two Praetor Suit designs. Wonder if it gets put on there at some point in the story, or if it's entirely just on a per-skin basis.

[hard thistle]

Oh yeah, that’s sick as fuh.

[grim cloud]

i bet they updated all the suits with the mark if i had to guess. We just havn't seen the lastest build

[silent surge]

what’s the easter egg in the controller??

[grim cloud]

hugo's head on a stick?

[silent surge]

didn’t catch that! good eye

[silent surge]

oh my GOODNESS WHAT IF

[safe ice]

why do they have to lock the most fire skin behind a whole ass controller 💔

[sleek ermine]

HOLY SHIT THE NORMAL CONTROLLER IS ONLY AVAILABLE UNTIL FRIDAY

[sleek ermine]

You’ll probably be able to redeem it on PC too or smth

[safe ice]

hopefully it'll be available somehow later down the line

[hard thistle]

It's exclusive on the Microsoft store until Friday, then it'll be available at other retailers afterwards

[obsidian shard]

EXGPro is making a DOOM The Dark Ages DOOM Slayer Controller Holder soon sooo

These will pair nicely together

[hollow sandal]

How's everyone's luck been receiving games on release day from Amazon?

[proud vine]

i kinda want to replay eternal to make the wait less "painfull"

but idk if i can finish it in time

[hollow sandal]

You should be able to unless you're busy

[final dune]

I kinda have a theory that the dark ages cacodemons are transfigured maykrs

Hugo said there's a reason they look that way

And also the big brain that they have

And also the one big eye

[grim cloud]

well he said we will find out soon. Not sure if soon means we have to wait till we play, or there will be some promo event coming

Stll waiitng for Trailer #2. Certianly taking its time

[merry lion]

I’d like it to be the Quake dimension but Makyrs are the most likely

[grim cloud]

cthulu hell

[stray pollen]

Reminds me when games had those edgy gritty rusty blood textures from the mid-2000's

[merry lion]

postal pfp based

[wooden acorn]

Day 83 of 112

I’ve let you down…..

Oops I left @ on

[lucid rover]

Bro are they going to do re stock for the controllers???

[wooden acorn]

I would hope so

[lucid rover]

Also are they going to be limited edition or they will sell more, like normal controllers (Ive already bought the helmet and I need to save money 💀 🙏 )

[sleek ermine]

And so WE PRAY (pun intended)

[lucid rover]

Indeed.

[barren iron]

it's likely a "limited" edition in the sense that it's limited now, and then they'll eventually make more later, happens all the time

[hard thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063931206472847431/1362112786146005123/image0.jpg?ex=680135e3&is=67ffe463&hm=c8a1f13c0cf7511e1105f7ca768a7f8e3b225fe0599855d6665f7206c9fb17cf&

[summer obsidian]

Why must Xbox torture me with an 80 dollar controller

I can’t be spending like this

Doom the dark ages total as of now come out to 460 dollars

I’ve gotten collectors, the helmet, and now the controller

I swear if they release another thing ima lose it

Although they haven’t released the yellow keycard yet

[prime sentinel]

Bro you don’t gotta buy everything 😭

[summer obsidian]

I do tho😭

This is the first time a doom game has released where I have a job

And everything they have released so far has been cool

[graceful lion]

vro should not have been given disposable income 💔

[summer obsidian]

GOD DAMN IT

Xbox didn’t only release a controller

They also released a wrap and another 200 dollar controller

Won’t be getting the other controller that is way way way to much

[grim cloud]

well i need the Yellow Key Card. where is that?

[summer obsidian]

I have no clue, hasn’t been released yet, would be a huge fumble if they didn’t release it

[cunning slate]

Does the executioner skin come with the elite controller or only the base model controller?

[tranquil zodiac]

day 112 of 83

[summer obsidian]

Come with both I think

[cunning slate]

Cool, yeah it isn’t really clear on the website.

[summer obsidian]

On Amazon the basic says it do

I bought through Amazon

Amazon and the shop app carrying my addiction

[tranquil zodiac]

bruh the controller is mad ugly

I just looked it up

[summer obsidian]

I think it looks cool, the elite one looks… well… elite

But I’m not spending 200 on a controller

[tranquil zodiac]

you spent 175 dollars on the helmet already. The controller is just a little more

buy it, NOW!!!!!

you were given disposable income for a purpose

[sleek ermine]

I would

[graceful lion]

just make sure you got enough for rent adn shit

[summer obsidian]

I get paid tomorrow plus I can live with the basic controller unless the yellow key card comes with the elite

[sleek ermine]

The helmet

[summer obsidian]

I’m still in high school so not an issue for me quite yet

[tranquil zodiac]

bruh the keycards are 30 dollars what 😭

I'll make my own keycard idc if it's metal

[sleek ermine]

That makes the helmet itself less than 145$

[summer obsidian]

That would require a lot of hardware that I don’t have

[tranquil zodiac]

"I'm an adult now" as you unbox a 2 foot tall cacodemon lamp that glows red when you rage quit

(400 dollars pre order bonus)

[wooden acorn]

“I’m an adult now” as I debate buying the age 4+ dinosaur fossil dig kit

[cunning slate]

The elite is really valuable for the paddles imo. Much easier to play well w/o having to ever move your thumbs off look / movement controls.

[tranquil zodiac]

dont get me wrong, the elite controller is good

[cunning slate]

If you’re interested in playing better then it’s well worth the money.

[graceful lion]

you can still be incredibly good as a console player

like nearly as good as pc pros for eternal

and it wont take a superfuck power controller

[cunning slate]

Right, I think we’re saying the same thing. I play on console and once I got an elite controller and started using the back paddles for dash / jump in eternal, I got way way better

[sleek ermine]

I was about to say that the elite controller is likely to stay longer in the Microsoft store than the normal one until I saw the limited edition

[graceful lion]

one of the top osu!mania players was playing on a membrane keyboard and a 30 hz screen on a rhythm game until he was 37th in the world, better hardware doesnt mean that much

[warm ibex]

nah you just got the numbers mixed up

april 51 coming in clutch 🙏

[grim cloud]

anyone looking forward to additonal game modes? I know there is pandamonium, which may be extra life mode

Classic Mode, New Game+, Horde Mode

I want it alll!

[wooden acorn]

So true

[harsh egret]

#screenshots to those curious what the easter egg is that hugo mentioned about the controller

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

yea pandemonium is extra life mode, just different

limited to five lives at a time, just like the normal campaign

[tawdry crypt]

dude oh my god i just saw an image of the doom the dark ages special edition series x

it looks sick as fuck

[sleek ermine]

And oh my god it doesn’t say limited edition

[prime sentinel]

A more traditional horde mode would probably really work for this style of game

[lucid rover]

Bros wallet is cooked deep fried and in the bag 💀 🙏

[hollow sandal]

Damn that's crazy

[solemn wyvern]

Can we dick punch ze demons?

[lucid rover]

Unpopular question are they going to make a ps5 controller as well?

[cunning slate]

Hope to see more master levels too.

[sleek ermine]

Ehh depends on Microsoft can be close to Sony for five seconds without getting angry or smth

[slender night]

Microsoft is fine with Sony

[lucid rover]

Bro if they launch a shield replica we are all cooked

[sleek ermine]

Ok sorry

[lucid rover]

I know…..

[hollow sandal]

Yes

[wheat sigil]

wonder if that's bonus damage

[dire prism]

unf its not an actual xbox series x its just something that goes over it i think

[tawdry crypt]

still

i like it

[dire prism]

def looks good tho for sure

yea me too, i like the controllers alot as well

[barren iron]

it's a wrap, which conceptually, I like more than limited consoles, it allows more people to get on board, because the wrap is only 55, compared to spending 400+ for a new console

[dire prism]

Yea that's fair too.

Definitely more accessible, especially when you take into account the world's and the U.S.'s current economies

a lot of people dont have money to spend unfortunately

[barren iron]

although, 80 for that limited base controller isn't bad. I'd expect that to be way more

[sharp cairn]

ordered... sorry i cant resist

[sleek ermine]

I would probably spend like about 600$ worth of my homeland currency just to then get the wrap

[frail hatch]

200 for the second one is to much in my opinion tho, its more than collectors edition

[barren iron]

It's an elite controller, the normal elite's are like 120, they come with higher quality parts, mappable backpaddles, that sort of thing

[sleek ermine]

No, it costs specifically as much as the collectors edition

[lucid rover]

We can finally say that our wallets are all DOOMED

[frail hatch]

It's still too much for controler in my opinion, its half the price for steam deck

[frail hatch]

Yup, my bad

[sleek ermine]

Mind you this is more or less a collector’s edition elite controller

[lucid rover]

Oh I get it know first the controller later the controller hanger well played Microsoft well played……

[frail hatch]

Yes but that price for something simple actually is something my mind can't comprehend

[grim cloud]

yes it would.

[arctic pagoda]

Hi

I just hope the chainshot isn't as slow as the ballista

The bonkinator 9000

[wind dew]

My helmet arrived!!!

Wish pics weren’t restricted in this chat

[vapid lodge]

So what's the deal with Rolling Stone's review? I heard they gave a bad one for TDA

[dire prism]

Wait really? I have't heard of this.

[vapid lodge]

Idk either I just read some comments on reddit but idk who Rolling Stone is

[dire prism]

Me either.

[vapid lodge]

ah if you google it you will find it

[dire prism]

Gotcha.

[vapid lodge]

where are you from? I am expecting mine too

[wind dew]

Im in Texas

[frail bloom]

I love moistcritical, looks at one vid and decides the entire game is a downgrade

I clicked on the vid and thought he was gonna find some good gameplay but you can tell he didn't even try when he still thinks glory kills are gone

[vapid lodge]

Got it, so EU will still wait

[arctic pagoda]

Rolling Stones don't hate it, but they say it feels slower

[frail bloom]

Well they at least played it, however I don't know if being less vertical means slower, that's the problem. The fact that there's a sprint means that you can run faster than eternal and also can scale across battlefields with your shield bash. Idk we've been thru this a bunxh only the full game can tell us otherwise

[arctic pagoda]

Plus if it's too slow you could speed it up

There's gonna be people out there playing at 300% speed

[frail bloom]

But again, why is that bad? And can they define what they mean by slow, cuz it's fast, just in a different way

[arctic pagoda]

You ever played Spider-man 2 on the ps5?

[frail bloom]

No

[arctic pagoda]

There was an option (also in dark ages) that allowed you to speed up or slow down the games speed to fit your difficulty

[frail bloom]

I will first try out what the devs intend as fun

[arctic pagoda]

With dark ages there's custom difficulty sliders allowing for faster or slower game speed, projectile damage, doom slayer recieved and given damage etc

[frail bloom]

Then when I master tda, I'll mess around with the sliders

But I want to play the devs balanced experience bc adapting is necassary

And I will cuz they have the normal difficulties

[arctic pagoda]

There'll still be the 6 main difficulties

[frail bloom]

I expect to be swarmed by 3 tyrants

RAAAHHH

[arctic pagoda]

I'm too young, hurt me plenty, ultra violence etc

[frail bloom]

"Aspiring slayer" now

[arctic pagoda]

It's just with the sliders you can have custom difficulties such as projectiles that move slow but deal 3 times the damage

[frail bloom]

Ye ofc I'm not lazy but it would be bad if the game was lackluster in challenge and the devs go, "just change the slider" and that won't translate to enemy placement or enemy amount or the arena you're in. I don't mind the sliders but I dislike the argument bc the people who are skeptical(not hateful) are worried that changing the sliders will offer you challenge and not by the base game's merits.

But yes I will mess around with them after a 100% nightmare playthrough

[arctic pagoda]

Good

[delicate sequoia]

New controller comes with a downlodeable in game skin

[arctic pagoda]

Nice

[delicate sequoia]

Envy runs my blood

[arctic pagoda]

I already got the CE, plus I don't know if there's ps5 controller skins

[delicate sequoia]

I want it too but I play in ps5

[arctic pagoda]

Is it the divinity skin?

[delicate sequoia]

Nope the divinity pack is exclusive to the deluxe edition

[arctic pagoda]

I see

[delicate sequoia]

Wich I preordered

[arctic pagoda]

Good

[delicate sequoia]

So I’ll get void slayer aswell

[arctic pagoda]

Me too

Sony, surprisingly doesn't do skins officially

Like for controllers

[delicate sequoia]

Nah Sony would put a skin with the ps+

Limited time tho

[summer obsidian]

Wish that elite controller wasn’t so expensive I don’t even care about its feature I just like the decal

[chilly wagon]

They should sell a doom keyboard n mouse

[warm ibex]

read this message, watched the video, saw my own video when he was looking for previews

that's crazy

[stoic sleet]

I never liked moist critical, he just gives the most bland, unhateable, common opinion on any drama and puts in a few sex and shit jokes

His gaming is ok

[keen blaze]

the revolver god video is fucking funny

[stoic sleet]

It was ok, like i said

[plain iron]

Shit. What video was it?

[warm ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxq7LV-KDc&ab_channel=MoistCr1tikalReacts

[plain iron]

Lowkey it kinda feels like he's never played classic doom

[harsh egret]

I think he went in expecting something completely different just cause he isnt really informed on stuff

[summer obsidian]

Don’t give them ideas (if u want this im willing to bet there’s a company that prints custom key caps somewhere out there)

[summer obsidian]

I mean ur vids are really good sooooo

[warm ibex]

thank you!

[spare panther]

i dont think that video did the best job at showing it he shouldve watched that nightmare mode video

[split saddle]

I open this chat and the first thing I see is someone named “Epic” typing

This is truly epic

[summer obsidian]

This is epic

[spare panther]

truly epic moment

[warm ibex]

I agree

probably should've watched more than just one video in general though lol

[spare panther]

yeah absolutely lol

[summer obsidian]

Didn’t u get to play early? Idk I might just be crazy

[spare panther]

wouldve been sick if he watched your vid too..

[warm ibex]

Yeah, made a vid on it!

[warm ibex]

would've been nuts

[split saddle]

truly bonkers

[summer obsidian]

That’s what I was remembering

I’m actually considering buying a console skin? Crazy