the-dark-ages

[vapid lodge]

ah right thx

[warm ibex]

yeah np

[prime sentinel]

oh btw, there are Nightmare Imps

Imp Stalkers that are transcluscent, when you parry them they become more visible

[warm ibex]

I believe you and I had a talk about those the other day! I really wanted to spill the beans lol

[grim cloud]

first act of campaign missions seem to be Intro(khalim), Hebeth, Hebeth Mech, Dragon Sky, Seige part 1, siege part 2

[prime sentinel]

the game looks really good

also the "coming soon" under the toy pickups makes me wonder what they're going to give you in the final game

[vapid lodge]

just 20+ levels to go lol

[warm ibex]

there's a level missing between Khalim and Habeth, I believe. No one got to play it

[prime sentinel]

if all goes well, I'm buying my new pc tomorrow

[vapid lodge]

probably another bfg 10k to destroy hebeth

[grim cloud]

its probably barracks inbetween, if i had to guess

[warm ibex]

lmao

[prime sentinel]

I wonder if the game is going to be split into episodes?

[grim cloud]

there is also the blue interior uac like level too

[vapid lodge]

Yes Dark ages and Darker ages

sorry, my mood is silly

[prime sentinel]

like E1 is the more medieval stuff, then E2 is more tech and E3 is in this mysterious dimension we don't know much about

[prime sentinel]

its Hebeth I believe?

Sentinel techbase

[grim cloud]

let me check my8 secret notes

[vapid lodge]

I don't know how much I think they can push different dimensions and stuff

[grim cloud]

Hebeth Plasma labs, that is interoir, whether Hebeth rooftops is interior, maybe

[prime sentinel]

we've seen Hebeth interiors?

they posted it on their bsky/x account

with the accellerator

[grim cloud]

Hebeth reactor is prob atlan

[prime sentinel]

we know there are Hebeth interiors, its not the UAC

[warm ibex]

I want to point out that most of what they've shown in the trailers and dev direct comes from the first four levels of the game, we haven't seen very much outside of that

[vapid lodge]

I knida noticed the same thing

[prime sentinel]

damn lol

[warm ibex]

The Slayer Hebeth level was both inside and outside

[prime sentinel]

is Hebeth one of the first four levels?

[warm ibex]

Yeah

I believe it's the third (?)

[prime sentinel]

ah okay, episode theory out the window haha

in the old doom, level themes are split into episodes and I was wondering if that would happen

(even doom 2 has episodes even though its not really called out in the menu)

22 levels in this right?

that's nearly double Eternal

[grim cloud]

22 levels, but 3 are said to be atlan, 4 flying. I bet the vehicle levels are much shorter

[sterile sage]

Can you turn on and off the slow time option when you attack melee? There are more people who are dissatisfied with this than I thought.

[hard thistle]

I cannot wait to play this game. The Atlan looks so damn fun, the Dragon looks insane as well, and the gameplay looks so elite, it brings a tear to my eye!

[woven jolt]

I think all the flying levels are combined with slayer combat

[warm ibex]

I've heard that some footage lacks the slow motion, so yeah probably

[hard thistle]

And as far as the slow motion option, according to Midnight it’s a button press.

[grim cloud]

i hope so, i am not sold on vehicle combat

[prime sentinel]

it looks like in Atlan and Dragon levels you can still get off the mount at certain points, so they aren't full dragon levels

we've seen it in footage

[warm ibex]

Slow motion activates on its own, there's not like a specific button for it or anything

[woven jolt]

@warm ibex do you remember how many normal difficulty options there were? I heard some say 6, but idk if that's right

[hard thistle]

I’m honestly cool with it, because I want to feel like a MONSTER.

[prime sentinel]

it looks more like some levels will have Atlan sections or dragon sections, maybe even both in some levels

and the dragon can be used to move between smaller slayer areas

[woven jolt]

I think a lot of people enjoyed the mech combat

[hard thistle]

Gotcha, fam.

[warm ibex]

While we're on the topic, I do want to note that I didn't even notice the slow motion while playing

Noticed it while editing

very natural and smooth

[hard thistle]

Right?! I was just enthralled at what I was seeing!

No weird ghost pixel blurring like we saw on the Nvidia 50-series RTX demos

[prime sentinel]

well I'm thinking about how glory kills stopped the game for a few seconds essentially, I think the slow motion will have a similar effect, but not quite stopping everything, giving you a short moment of respite

[grim cloud]

looks like most of the demons we have seen have been seen in the first few levels. No arachnorb or Revenant yet however

[hard thistle]

"Buy our expensive cards" lol

[grim cloud]

I still hope we get cacodemons that look like cacodemons

[prime sentinel]

of course I haven't played it, that's just what it seems like to me

[grim cloud]

lore says there is a cacodemon titan, so maybe they are saving it for that

[prime sentinel]

and this game looks really fucking fast in motion, movement speed isn't as fast as Eternal, but when you're sprinting you are moving haha

all the actions you have to do makes it clear to me this isn't a "slow game"

[warm ibex]

Aspiring Slayer, Hurt Me Plenty, Ultra Violence, Nightmare, Ultra Nightmare and Pandemonium (extra life mode)

[prime sentinel]

I like them calling it Aspiring Slayer, that's more motivating 🙂

[hard thistle]

When I saw the invisible Imp Stalkers, who are definitely the Nightmare Imps from 64, I lost my ish because I HATE them so much and now I get to kill them with new 3D graphics and a flail!

[prime sentinel]

though uh, I am a loser so I'm playing Nightmare on the first go around

[wooden acorn]

that's a cute name ye

[warm ibex]

it is! Although I kinda like "hey, not too rough" more lol

[prime sentinel]

its classic

[woven jolt]

@warm ibex did all the enemies seem aggressive enough? because there were some footage of like the pinky demons just standing still, so I was wondering what you thought about it?

[grim cloud]

imagine invasion mode in tda, id shit myself

[prime sentinel]

aggression looks linked more to projectiles

[warm ibex]

I thought they all seemed super aggressive lol

ESPECIALLY the imp stalkers

[prime sentinel]

more projectiles in play = more dodging

[woven jolt]

what was your difficulty?

[grim cloud]

its seems the mech is just ambiant ai, nothing much too it

[warm ibex]

Ultra Violence on KBM until recording, I switched to HMP on controller

[vapid lodge]

hello, I got permission to sell the shield saw btw

[wooden acorn]

ooo

I had an idea if you're willing to try and make it real

[prime sentinel]

Horde, looking at the gameplay this really does look more like a return to form, much more classic feeling, do you agree with that sentiment?

obviously there's lots of new stuff too, but the overall feel reminds me much more of Doom 2

[vapid lodge]

which is ?

[prime sentinel]

than Eternal did (which I still loved)

[wooden acorn]

have the blades spin so it can be used as a fidget spinner lol

[plain iron]

I'd spend money on that fr

[wooden acorn]

same

I saw one on etsy that uses a drill to spin the blades

[plain iron]

Ooohhb that's a good idea

[warm ibex]

I'd say it's almost its own beast. It has a solid mix of both classic and modern in such a way that it wraps around to being its own thing. At it's core? Yeah, it's absolutely a return to form, but it's been expanded upon quite a bit

[vapid lodge]

already discussed about this, the design does not allow it to spin, even the original one doesnt retract the blades but spins

[wooden acorn]

ah sad

[plain iron]

The torque might be a bit iffy, so it might break easy

[prime sentinel]

excellent, I'm very excited as a classic AND modern doom fan

[vapid lodge]

The one from etsy its about the same guy I got the design from

[prime sentinel]

erm, a Doom fan in general haha

[vapid lodge]

but he wont release the files

[warm ibex]

me too dude!

[wooden acorn]

ah gotcha

[prime sentinel]

imo they refuse to miss with this series

[grim cloud]

its going to be a long 6 weeks

[plain iron]

Id software when I get you

I'm gonna bite Hugo Martin

[prime sentinel]

Doom 3 is actually super important because I think as a game it showed that the Doom series is amorphous and can shift and change

[wooden acorn]

evil

[plain iron]

I'm gonna replace his blood with pilk if I don't see Samur in TDA.

[wooden acorn]

this is him

[prime sentinel]

I think Hugo said they view Doom as a series like, say, a Zelda, in that its a legacy series and it should be excpected to change and be different with each entry

[plain iron]

Nawh that's the kreed maykr

[weary current]

[plain iron]

Still would bite the kreed maykr, but it depends on how he sounds like

I want a plushie of him tho

So I can treat him like my blåhaj and use it as a pillow.

[weary current]

Don’t mind me, I’ll be rewatching a lot of the demo gameplay for days on end

at least until the game comes out

[wooden acorn]

I've only seen one 15 minute video, wanna try and go in kinda blind

[grim cloud]

i wonder what the yellow glow is

[warm ibex]

on the skull crusher?

[grim cloud]

the dmeons sometimes glow yellow

[warm ibex]

oh that! there's a shredder upgrade that makes the darts stick in the demons. they glow yellow after you've filled them with enough darts and you can cause an explosion by throwing the shield

you can actually stun lock tyrants like this. Fill them full of darts, blow them up for a hard faulter, throw the shield again for continuous stun while you fill them with more darts, rinse and repeat

[rough heart]

Dark ages gameplay will be easier for classic players

[vapid lodge]

I wonder if Romero is going to try it

he tried Eternal

[prime sentinel]

would be cool to see

Romero has really mellowed out in recent year

love to see him these days

[vapid lodge]

I dont know why it never crossed my mind to ask him what does he think of the modern doom games

But i know he is proud the direction it took

[prime sentinel]

I think he like, thinks they're cool, but I don't think he's played the entire way through either of them

[vapid lodge]

yes you're right

we can tag him here and ask him

[prime sentinel]

like he's probably proud that Doom is still around and still hugely popular

[vapid lodge]

probably get banned

[prime sentinel]

and obviously he still feels passionate about classic Doom since he's made like 5 wads for classic doom in recent years

[vapid lodge]

I wish for Hugo Martin to attend Comic con , same way John did

Man I almost died of happiness that day

[grim cloud]

theres got to be unmounted pinkies, and perhaps spectres

[hard thistle]

Sea salt I need you sea salt!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-war-i-need-you-cecil-cecil-invincible-gif-17654934589302344134

[plain iron]

I want to see John Romero one day

Get him to bless me with alcohol and cacodemon rosary beads

[simple mist]

Whos ready for the peak ages?

[weary current]

I am

[vapid lodge]

tacodemons maybe

[simple mist]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[charred acorn]

did Blizzard do anything in TDA?

[prime sentinel]

I really highly doubt it lmao

[simple mist]

There we go

[plain iron]

I shall make the cacodemon rosary beads now

[hard thistle]

Sea salt I need you sea salt!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-war-i-need-you-cecil-cecil-invincible-gif-17654934589302344134

Surely you have something funnier

That's nice

[hard thistle]

Are you sure

[steady crane]

Has anyone got the collectors edition? I wanna know if they give you the game code on purchase or if they’ll come with the package

[plain iron]

Noone has it yet i dont think

[hard thistle]

He went uninvincible

[grim cloud]

leader pinky is blue, so we call him bluey?

[plain iron]

Get vega'd

[sharp moat]

violet?

[grim cloud]

purpie?

[wooden acorn]

ourple

[sharp moat]

Lean

[woven jolt]

so apparently the slow motion effect is entirely optional

[solemn wyvern]

Dick punching demons is fun

[sterile sage]

Some people are disappointed that it's not a deep Combat like Eternal.

There are a lot of people like that, especially in Reddit.

[warm ibex]

I defilitely wouldn't go to reddit for opinions lol

[summer obsidian]

Nah no one got it yet. Probably will start shipping beginning of may

[summer obsidian]

From last experience the game code usually is on a little card in the box

[sterile sage]

It's good to lower the level of introductory difficulty for new users who are entering the game, but they criticized it as too casual and too repetitive in combat.

[summer obsidian]

Well those people fail to see that no 2 doom games play the same. The closest we have are doom 1993 and doom 2

That’s like a staple of the doom franchise is that none of the games play anything like each other

[sterile sage]

I'm fine with everything, but I'm anxious because there's no favorable reviews in the Dragon section.

[hard thistle]

Thank God

[summer obsidian]

Anyone who doesn’t want to fly around on a cyber dragon that’s armed to the teeth and do Godzilla executions is insane

Flight and doom are definitely hard to put together but I trust them

[shut whale]

R we gonna see full demo gameplay on YouTube

[summer obsidian]

Probably some but I bet ID is limiting it

[shut whale]

I hope we see all 4 parts 🙏

[sterile sage]

do you know that there are turrets besides dragons and Atlan?

[summer obsidian]

In some of the released screenshots and art for the game we can see war like battles occurring including turrets (most likely to add cinematic effect and most likely won’t be controllable)

[earnest swift]

15 minutes of new gameplay per outlet, all of which can only be taken from one specific map.

@warm ibex Is Extra Life Mode returning? I heard from Skill Up’s coverage that there’s two difficulties with limited lives. One of them is definitely UN, but for the second it only makes sense to me that it would be ELM.

[warm ibex]

yeah it is

it's a bit different this time though

[plain iron]

We do have limited lives, which is fun

Gone are the days of my 40+ lives

[earnest swift]

5 still seems a bit excessive tbh. But maybe that’s just my UN bias talking.

Least if I interpreted that b-roll correctly.

[plain iron]

Definitely the UN bias 😭

I've died to genuinely stupid shit all the time

Fuck you whiplashes. Fuck you for being able to bounce us aroumd

[wheat sigil]

yes i love when the demons decide to play ping pong with me

[minor owl]

I die to stupid shit on UN that I'd never die to otherwise

[wheat sigil]

seems to be many such cases

[minor owl]

How so if you're allowed to say?

[plain iron]

Or when tyrants decide to curb stomp you repeatedly 😭

[wheat sigil]

honestly his waveblast is more annoying

[mossy geyser]

I can’t wait for this

[warm ibex]

Limited to five lives at a time, you choose if you want to use each one upon death. During normal gameplay you continue playing, but I believe you restart the level in extra life mode. Running out obviously ends your campaign run

they're also called Life Sigils and not extra lives

[mossy geyser]

I see, a return to the classic style of gameplay

Take your time

[sterile sage]

Is there a turret section in the game??

[neon perch]

Where'd you get confirmation of this?

[real rose]

so having seen the new game footage, i honestly think my favourite thing in the game rn is how the sound design enhances how powerful the slayer is. walking, grabbing, jumping, it all has so much heft behind it

[real rose]

WAIT OMG YOURE HERE??
like HI, i love your content

[woven jolt]

twitter

[warm ibex]

hi, thank you!

[warm ibex]

yeah, a mounted turret at the end of level one

[sterile sage]

👍

[real rose]

You're like my go-to for any doom news. I appreciate how concise you make everything

[warm ibex]

And I appreciate the support!

[sterile sage]

How many new demons are there in tda except existing ones?

[graceful lion]

theres tons of people who played tda, many videos are made on it

[shut whale]

Yeah but a lot don't have the 4 chapters

[old magnet]

I love your content bro, you keep me up to date on anything that's DOOM

[warm ibex]

Thank you so much man

[scenic lichen]

Were there any new difficulty slider options that weren’t at dev direct in January?

[warm ibex]

I wish I could provide more info on that, but I didn't have time to play around with the sliders

[manic shore]

God damn dude grindin all the questions

[vagrant path]

Hell yeah just saw some of that hands on gameplay

awesome looking stuff

already saw some people whining but that doesn't matter lmao, I trust this game is gonna kick ass.

[fleet spruce]

Yeah , there are no games I'm excited for other than Doom nowadays

[graceful lion]

im excited for i think mainly 3 games, but ill rate them for level of excitement
1 : breathedge 2 (weird choice, but i loved the first game)
2 : doom tda
3 : black myth wukong

[prime sentinel]

1. Doom: The Dark Ages
2. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4
3. Total Chaos

there might be more that I'm not thinking of rn

oh yeah, Metroid Prime 4 probably on that list

[fluid nacelle]

1 doom dark ages
2 elden ring nightreign
3 idk, citizen sleeper 2?

[plain iron]

I'm excited for 2 and it's TDA and silksong

[graceful lion]

skong

[plain iron]

It's coming out this year trust

[graceful lion]

as a half life fan, i can relate with your coping

[plain iron]

At least we know silksong is real 😭

[graceful lion]

there have been news of hlx (half life 3) being in development

with things like how meltable stuff is, or how it reacts to fire

also just tons of other siht

[sterile sage]

I hope they improve the Dragon section.

[scenic lichen]

Hell no

Being both a half life and a hollow knight fan is rough rn

Be me waiting 6 years for what could be the largest indie sequel of all time and over a decade to see what happens next in half life 😭

Thankfully I’m a doom fan too so I am eating quite good there

[safe ice]

it seemingly survived the winter playtest too so we may get to see it sooner than expected

[graceful lion]

yeee

[odd gust]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-romance-jet-halal-gif-5814091598986569255

[proud vine]

I like how you still need to play aggresively even tho the game is slower ngl

[rough heart]

Most likely

Hes still in contact with them

You cant have franchise without its creator aside

[deft basalt]

How's it work for the early access you get for preordering the collectors edition like do I get it in an email?

[sonic turret]

Maybe, did they send out the test demos to the influencers yet?

[harsh egret]

u get the game code in the box

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-slayer-smiling-gif-10870484241078796030

that smile is scary to demons

today doom me me

if you die you will be revive but you are demon now but DOOM SLAYER is behind you!

[woven jolt]

half life 3 is never gonna happen, valve is done with half life

[graceful lion]

bro there are news about playtests with it

[plain iron]

That's what a disbeliever says.

[graceful lion]

there is code in games about hlx

and someone who was voicing in it accidentally leaked some sort of codename for half life 3

which is how all of this started

[woven jolt]

the main guys were talking on twitter months ago about a new half life game, and they said half life 3 will come out when gta 7's final dlc comes out

that's their joke

[graceful lion]

what is this guy on about

[woven jolt]

not my words, valve literally said they don't want to make a half life game

[graceful lion]

there is code, present, for all sorts of systems, in alot of game updates

but whatever if you dont wanna believe it i wont make you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTzIwXj0170

[woven jolt]

if you're talking about the leaked code, the devs said it was part of an older build of an older half life game from like 2010 or something but never got released

[plain iron]

Lowkey gabe is kinda pretty

[woven jolt]

basically canceled

[graceful lion]

code from several weeks ago

about systems of how objects react with fire

how objects deform

and an inertia system

[graceful lion]

whole bunch of other stuff, talked about in this video

[woven jolt]

exactly, it was years ago, the devs said they never got around to actually finishing it and polishing the code in 2010, so they just canceled it

[graceful lion]

sure

[woven jolt]

and it makes sense because half life 2 was just 6 years before

[graceful lion]

theres new info tho

[woven jolt]

the devs on twitter like a week ago talked about no new half life game being made and how the leaked code was just from a canceled game from 2010

[graceful lion]

nice, ill keep coping tho

[woven jolt]

I would love half-life 3, but it's probably not gonna happen, the mysterious 2010 game was probably some version of half-life 3 but they never actually stated if it was Half Life 3

and 15 years later, I doubt it's something they're thinking about even making

[graceful lion]

what about what the actor for the g man said at the start of 2025?

about unforseen consequences?

[woven jolt]

I have no idea, but apparently that actor was hired by the skibidi toilet guy for like 1 video

[graceful lion]

dont know what that part has any significance for, but ok

[sterile sage]

Is there any possibility that Dragon section will be improved before tda is released?

[woven jolt]

to play as g-man in skibidi toilet

it's stupid i know

[woven jolt]

probably, and the gameplay that was shown was not the latest version of the game, and things have been polished, according to Hugo Martin

[graceful lion]

definitely

[nova spear]

Yea the game is still in development

[graceful lion]

especially after id did some playtesting with known people in the doom community

bruh

[woven jolt]

well, I'd assume most of it is finished and they're just working on polishing now, it's releasing in a month and a half

[graceful lion]

3488100 on steamdb, shows you something

[sterile sage]

I'm worried that all reviewers are skeptical about the Dragon section.

[nova spear]

Prolly fixing bugs and polishing yeah

[graceful lion]

people are skeptical about tda itself

[nova spear]

Not sure how the shield works

Gotta see when the game releases

[woven jolt]

some reviewers actually felt like it was FASTER than Eternal

[graceful lion]

yeah, it seems like its gonna be faster

[nova spear]

Wdym by faster

[graceful lion]

also the slow motion thing will be optional

[graceful lion]

more stuff to do per second than eternal

[woven jolt]

gameplay

[graceful lion]

becuase eternal was also a fast game in terms of gameplay

[nova spear]

Well we can optimize it anyway

[nova spear]

I mean meathook made you travel everywhere

And the ballista tech

[graceful lion]

not literal speed

[nova spear]

Ohh i get it

[graceful lion]

but yk stuff like quickswapping and buttons to press

[nova spear]

Yeah

[woven jolt]

also, dark ages will have a sprint

[nova spear]

Bruh

[graceful lion]

autosprint on

[woven jolt]

eternal and 2016 didn't

[graceful lion]

immediately

[nova spear]

I HOPE there is

[graceful lion]

yeah, doomguy will not have stamina, that's for sure

as in he can run indefinitely

[nova spear]

He's already fast enough

Bro the heavy stomps when he walks are made so good

Just indicating that he's truly a tank

[sterile sage]

There is no webzine that gives a good evaluation of the Dragon section itself

[woven jolt]

quickswapping is kinda a thing in dark ages, but it will kinda be like gun --> shield --> gun --> melee --> shield --> gun, etc

[nova spear]

Man I can't wait to do this

[woven jolt]

also, if you fall from a certain height, fodder demons will just die from the shockwave alone

[nova spear]

Supershotgun now wastes 1 ammo which is good

[nova spear]

THATS SICK

How do u get ammo tho

[woven jolt]

around the map + melee weapons

[nova spear]

Like do they js drop from demons

Cool

[wheat sigil]

"wastes"😭

[sterile sage]

What is the performance of the rocket launcher?

[nova spear]

Don't know how to say it in a correct way bro

[woven jolt]

nobody has used it

[sterile sage]

Doom spiked Mace?

[nova spear]

Uses*

[woven jolt]

also pretty sure nobody used it yet

[nova spear]

I think further in the game cuz people only got to play tda for 3-5 hours

22 levels

[woven jolt]

the slayer combat we saw only made up 1 level,

this game is pretty big

[wheat sigil]

ah, fair enough

[nova spear]

It is bro

[sterile sage]

I think there's an undisclosed weapon besides the rocket launcher, right?

[woven jolt]

they have been planning it since 2016 though

[sterile sage]

Not bfg

[nova spear]

It looks so fun to parry and destroy with a mace

[nova spear]

BFS

[woven jolt]

yeah, it will function similar to the bfg

[nova spear]

Somebody mentioned BFS but idk if it's true

[woven jolt]

a magazine teased an Ultra Shotgun, but that was probably just a joke

[sterile sage]

I just hope the dragon part will be improved and released.

[woven jolt]

yeah

[graceful lion]

yeah, theres only 6 weapon classes, and one of them is only one weapon, rest is 2

allegedly theres a bfg and a crucible-like sword, but these are found exploring the world, not in the main story

[woven jolt]

no, I think it's 6 weapon classes + 1 special weapon

the rocket launcher can transform into a grenade launcher

[graceful lion]

hugo said that the rocket launcher would be like a grenade launcher, thats what i picked up from midnight's video

[graceful lion]

yeah

[woven jolt]

I think the grenade mode is an alternate fire

another weapon

[graceful lion]

6 weapon classes, a secret ewapon, a total of 12 weapons becuase one of the weapon classes only has one weapon

[woven jolt]

there's a video of hugo talking about it, I'd have to find it again

[graceful lion]

i saw Midnight's video about playing doom tda, he also talked to hugo

[split crest]

I js wanna play the damn game I can't wait

[graceful lion]

we all do

[split crest]

May 15th is too long

[fair mulch]

Best weapon so far go

[split crest]

Super Shotgun

[woven jolt]

Ultra Shotgun

[fair mulch]

We have an agreement

[silent surge]

may 13 if premium edition!

[sterile sage]

Didn't agadon hunter also appear in demo?

[silent surge]

never saw him

[sterile sage]

Revenant?

[silent surge]

neither him or caco

[sterile sage]

Is there a whole new demon? Not the axe-throwing demon.

I don't know what the name of the axe-throwing demon is.

[woven jolt]

I just watched Midnight's video, he said the rocket launcher will have 2 variants that will act as grenade launchers

[sterile sage]

And not the spider demon

[graceful lion]

yes

[slender night]

2 RL variants? I can feel the Quake inspiration from here

[uncut kayak]

who up here dooming they dark ages?

[uncut kayak]

nah aint midnight that clickbait doom channel that yaps about wads and has those corny ass "THIS IS insert shi here" thumbnails with a title like "The most ILLEGAL DOOM WADS"

[limber wagon]

When can play, don't say may 15

[uncut kayak]

idk I have the game rn

id software gave me a free early copy because they said I was cool enough

[limber wagon]

Be cool and reach out to id, got it

[uncut kayak]

dark ages was prolly supposed to be a quake reboot but bethesda/microsoft made them make it a doom game because brand recognition

not that im complainin

as long as the gameplay is heat idgaf if its a bubsy game

[limber wagon]

Now that you say it

[plain iron]

May 13th for premium/collectors edition owners.

[uncut kayak]

fed

[plain iron]

Whar

[slender night]

I don't mind it but still I'd prefer something with this vibe to be under Quake

[obsidian shard]

May 12 at 5:00 PM for Me

[formal hatch]

so aggravating 😭

[weary current]

i just saw a screenshot of one of those big-ass demon tentacle things being blasted with the dual plasma rifle

[bronze token]

im sure the similarities to quake's setting weren't lost on the developers, the problem is that quake games are also expected to be multiplayer arena shooters whereas the dark ages won't even have multiplayer

[hollow yew]

Hey

The new gameplay is amazing as hell

[silent surge]

we have only seen the surface of it too

as far as what’s in the game

[hollow yew]

Hey there allistin! Great to see ya buddy

[cyan lotus]

On his twitter he stated that the dark ages has 22 levels, and used eternals amount of levels for comparison, stating it had 15. I’m going to preface this by saying yes I do dislike him but I want to try to make this next part sound as unbiased as I can, there is something legitimately confusing about a channel that is all about doom eternal somehow getting the level count wrong. Which either means not knowing the level count to the only game he talks about, or somehow counting some other thing like the fortress or slayer gates as separate levels, either way, it doesn’t compute with me.

[silent surge]

hi there!

[silent surge]

maybe been awhile since he played it?

[hollow yew]

Excited as hell. Just hoping that it would run fine on my system

[silent surge]

13/3/4 for 20

[cyan lotus]

maybe

[silent surge]

22 is a lot though

[storm shadow]

Hey Allstin quick question, is the weak point system the same as eternal’s? I saw that mancubi would lose a whole left/right side of their body but only before they died. So can you target their cannons like eternal?

[silent surge]

didn’t specifically try but most weapons are continuous fire anyway versus PB weakpoint blast

seems they still shot though

[storm shadow]

That’s cool, I just thought maybe the railspike could let you destroy arachno turrets or cannons like mancubi and tyrants.

[hollow yew]

Quick switching still there?

[silent surge]

that meta is done

i talk about it in my video

i mean sure you could… swap shotguns but. yea

[mystic barn]

Hey Allstin, while we’ve got ya, can you elaborate much on the music snippets you were given? I know Unchained Predator was in there (unclear on if it was the complete track), and there’s also the track that’s featured in the Playstation advertisement for The Dark Ages (which Finishing Move retweeted). I’ve also heard more complete versions of the staggered triplet song you spoke about in your most recent soundtrack discussion video. Anything else? Were these complete mixes? Given there’s 22 levels, how much music is there going to be on the OST? If you can’t talk about it, that’s perfectly fine too

[storm shadow]

Great video btw!

[silent surge]

thank you! complete mixes yes, we weren’t cleared to 1:1 upload them full, just use as music beds - not sure how much i can reference

i used the 2 tracks, an andy strider cover. and infernal chasm.
1 of the tracks i had in different parts.

[mystic barn]

Fantastic! Thanks for that. Yeah I tried making out as much as I can and I think Finishing Move are doing a bang-up job

[grim cloud]

today we can offically say, doom tda comes out next month

[rocky cairn]

just under 7 weeks

[hollow yew]

Wait until zero master uploads a video "DOOM: The Dark Ages Speedrun in 2 hours" lmao

[hollow yew]

Also how's the helmet?

[silent surge]

pretty neat

[delicate grotto]

More hyped for this game than ever after seeing the new TDA gameplay. The Atlan and Dragon sections still look fun to me. They might have more integrations later on, so I’m looking forward to it.

[grim cloud]

anyone find the 4k new screen shot from the battle net store page? It has a arachnotgron and good shot of the ~~cacodemon ~~arachnorb

[hollow yew]

I hope they have mod support sometime after a dlc.

That would make this game eternal

[delicate grotto]

I wish SnapMap wasn’t abandoned. Sure it was limited, but it was still a solid map tool. Allowed all platforms to partake in community content. Though I’d rather all resources go into the campaign, so I can’t be too disappointed about it. Mod support will likely come within a year of TDA’s release.

Can only imagine the crazy shit this community will do with modding tools for TDA, lol.

[hollow yew]

I hope they won't abandon eternal for that

[vapid lodge]

Just saw the Digital Foundry review and it confirms my fear that you can't really feel the soundtrack in game

I realy hope this is not going to be the same at launch

[hollow yew]

Huh? That's not good to hear at all

[vapid lodge]

yeah you can look at the review

around minute 15

[delicate grotto]

Could be a mixing problem. Easily fixable I would think.

[vapid lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VawgKaIfbg

[graceful tulip]

They’re probably gonna refine the game as the months goes on, weren’t they invited to play the game back in January

That’s like 4 months to tune up the game

[delicate grotto]

They’ve likely been polishing the game since running those demos, so yeah, I’d agree with that.

[vapid lodge]

also the same was for Eternal, often while you picked up ammo or health the music would STOP

before the game was launched ofc

[hollow yew]

Btw can anyone confirm that it's good enough on mid range cards?

[mystic barn]

There are videos of gameplay out there where you can feel the music. It’s probably just a matter of balancing SFX, dialogue, and music in the settings

[graceful tulip]

I wouldn’t take these reviews as definite considering the game isn’t even out yet

[vapid lodge]

I dont know but you can watch the review above and its been said the game was performing well

[hollow yew]

Hopefully my 3050 can handle this. If it can get 60-70+ i am fine i have no problems then

[weary current]

i'm just worried that the story cutscenes are gonna break up the gameplay unevenly, alongside how the gameplay won't just be ripping and tearing (as with the wall to wall stuff in 2016 & Eternal)

[delicate grotto]

id optimizes their games well, I’d say it’ll run fine. Probably a solid 60fps.

[hollow yew]

Yea they are known for that. The reason I'm worrying is because of hardware ray tracing

[delicate grotto]

I’ve heard the cutscenes are on another level this time. More cinematic and well integrated into the game’s flow.

[vapid lodge]

yeah they're aiming for 60 fps again, meaning the engine will adjust and do whatever it takes to not compromise too much performance for the events on screen

doesnt mean it wont go under

[graceful tulip]

I kinda miss the first person cutscenes where it would seamlessly transition between game play and cutscene

[weary current]

oh okay, but the gameplay is still gonna be the same as 2016 & eternal to some degree, right? aka the levels being more wall-to-wall action and stuff like that?

this sounds like a dumb question but i'm just curious

[vapid lodge]

but kinda like Eternal, Eternal really does not run well at all under 40 (AFAIK) literally the dash starts to break - you can dash mid air forever if you have 30 fps

[vapid lodge]

no, they changed it

[graceful tulip]

I heard the levels are pretty big I don’t think it’s wall to wall action

[weary current]

i should've worded that better, i meant to say if the levels'll be a mix between wall-to-wall ripping and tearing, exploration, & stuff like that, i already know what the gameplay is like by now all the way lol

[delicate grotto]

It’s less corridor-to-arena and more open ended. There’s a lot more cinematics, but there’s also a ton more content per level. There’s 22 missions, and each one averages to an 1hr without exploration. The Atlan, dragon and cinematic sections act as breaks as well as set pieces for the game’s story.

[graceful tulip]

I guess with multiplayer no longer hogging the resources they can make more levels

[weary current]

cool, cool, i absolutely love how they're going down this route, it makes everything flow well together

[graceful tulip]

I always thought it was a bit absurd that doom eternal only had like 14 levels

[delicate grotto]

A couple were short too, and one barely qualifies since it’s a Boss only level.

Always felt like it needed an extra Earth or Hell level. Still a great campaign, but it was a bit short all things considered.

[hollow yew]

Looks like we have destructible stuff finally. I have wanted this for a very long time

[weary current]

i just need TDA in my veins immediately atp

[hollow yew]

But they are soo fun to play. That's what makes the game good

[wheat sigil]

there's not a ton of issues with low framerates i'd say
main thing is that the game will move slower

[hollow yew]

Mods made me spend 300 hours in Eternal

[delicate grotto]

True. Each level was great in its own way. Master Levels and DLC were even better.

[hollow yew]

Yea. Also they should've gone full on with enemy placements, more spirits, super heavy demons in immora. That would've made stuff even better

[graceful tulip]

It would be great to fight the gladiator boss with TDA mechanics

[delicate grotto]

Doesn’t look slow though. Maybe a bit slower than Eternal based off movement, but in terms of visual feedback I’d say it’s about the same or even more.

[graceful tulip]

I’ve actually heard that TDA might actually feel faster than eternal

[cyan lotus]

I can only hope that tech is found for TDA to make it more interesting in terms of mechanics

[delicate grotto]

Yeah Immora should’ve gone all out for sure

[hollow yew]

https://youtu.be/admuCWk3fAg?si=SDYK-oqTxwklp-jq

[dense sapphire]

mann how do they play doom the dark ages

[wheat sigil]

i was talking about how fewer fps impacts eternal

[summer obsidian]

They give the game what they call “outlets” which are news sources, content creators, etc early

[delicate grotto]

Ah my bad then.

[hollow yew]

This should've shown so that people who said "sliders are making doom woke" wouldn't have complained in the first place and stopped whining

Clearly those people wanted attention and nothing more

[graceful tulip]

I just know there is going to be alot of fine tuning with the sliders for me, I feel like based off the footage the projectiles might be moving alittle too slow for me

[delicate grotto]

Beautiful. I love how more dynamic the gameplay looks for this game. It isn’t just flying 50 ft above the arena quick swapping everything to death. Don’t get me wrong, Eternal is super fun, but I’m really glad to see TDA take Doom’s gameplay in a different direction.

[hollow yew]

True. Exactly my point. I was skeptical at first but realized that this isn't eternal and ID wanted something completely different is the best choice instead of the same combat system with little qol updates.

[graceful tulip]

I am gonna miss quickscoping demons with the PB

[cyan lotus]

I think more people talked about the people saying TDA is woke than people actually said TDA was woke, I’d be willing to say the people who unironically said that is under 4 dozen, and with just as much certainty as before can say the majority of which probably did it for rage clicks

[hollow yew]

Guess so. But ig it's still complete nonsense calling it woke

[hard thistle]

Seeing anyone use the word "woke" unironically is a sign you should ignore them anyway. Nobody who uses this word is serious or engaging in good faith during discussion.

[hard thistle]

Mmm yeah speed

[hollow yew]

The word lost its meaning lmao. People use it whenever they feel like.

[hard thistle]

It's actually really useful, because you can instantly tell what a person is like just by if they use it or not. Few words tell you so much in only four letters.

[graceful tulip]

RIP auto shotty vs sticky nade debate

[wheat sigil]

dumb debate, just use both lol

[autumn dawn]

what the hell does woke even mean

[slender night]

At this point it's twisted to mean basically everything

[hard thistle]

Typically when someone says this they just mean it's progressive or has minorities and I don't like it.

[autumn dawn]

i don't understand it and i'll keep it that way

[prime sentinel]

woke was once slang that pretty much meant that you were informed and aware of ways in which society oppresses certain groups of people

[grizzled spoke]

Original created by black people to describe being aware of injustice, eventually co-opted by modern nazi’s

[prime sentinel]

or other things, it pretty much was like "opening your third eye"

but yeah the alt right (read: the whole right in the US) co opted the term and use it as a dog whistle to pretty much describe anything that goes against their beliefs

[autumn dawn]

wow.

[prime sentinel]

typically, dumbasses on the internet use it to describe anything that is viewed by them to be progressive or inclusive

[autumn dawn]

how do you maim the english language that much

[grizzled spoke]

Theres a history to America of stealing things so…

[autumn dawn]

french words

greek latin etc.

[ashen robin]

The same people who were criticizing Anita have become just like her with their dumbass takes

Especially the insufferable grumz

[autumn dawn]

there's a lot of Anitas you gotta be specific

i'm not active on controversies on social media

[prime sentinel]

don't even look into it

[grizzled spoke]

The congregation of losers that formed gamergate to bully women should have been a study

[ashen robin]

The sarkesean, or however her last name is spelled

[prime sentinel]

seriously, uh, not even gonna mention the name of the movement, but it is one of the worst things to ever come from the internet

and has defined a certain playbook

still popular today

[autumn dawn]

oh i just read her bio on wikipedia and i can instantly tell that with just less than one paragraph it's shit

[grizzled spoke]

Directly led to how the youth perceive things rn, changed internet culture if thats even a thing

[autumn dawn]

i just started by asking what 'woke' means

[prime sentinel]

I hate it

well anyway

[grizzled spoke]

Tis life, some people are very affected by it and can’t just ignore it

[autumn dawn]

move this to #general if you wanna continue

[weary current]

who cares about politics, we've got some ripping and tearing to do

[uncut kayak]

frfr they got zero self awareness but imma be honest I havent cared about that trash since I was like 14

[weary current]

[uncut kayak]

i wonder if cacodemons will be in the dark ages

[autumn dawn]

has there been any glimpse of a similar flying creature in the playthroughs

[rare flax]

It must be in the dark ages

[weary current]

i saw some brainy-looking cacodemons in one of the key art posters, so they're definitely gonna be in it 100%

[uncut kayak]

maybe doom guy might even make an appearance

[autumn dawn]

it's speculated to be related to the spiderdemon and arachnotron

though i also think they might be doom 3 cacos

[ashen robin]

It’s just the internet culture rn cause kids now are chronically online

[shut whale]

What does the weapon that shoots a ton of needles do?

[autumn dawn]

think of tf2 syringe gun except way stronger

[rare flax]

There are some demons that must be in the dark ages because they are iconic like revenant, mancubus, hell knight and the cacodemon

[autumn dawn]

all 3 except the caco are confirmed

[hard thistle]

I mean that stuff directly impacts our lives, so, yeah.

[shut whale]

@autumn dawn I don't know was that is. Do the needles explode when attached

[autumn dawn]

sadly no, in tf2 it's really weak

[slender night]

He's... the protagonist

[autumn dawn]

it impales enemies with syringes (or in TDA's case, nails)

[wooden acorn]

Idk, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet

[autumn dawn]

maybe, but we haven't seen that light green armor yet

[weary current]

i laughed so hard when i saw that nailgun impaling the hell knight in the dev direct showcase lol, it was so sudden

[autumn dawn]

so i ain't trying to be hopeful

[autumn dawn]

bam

there is and it's twitter- imean X

[hard thistle]

If the topic comes up why would we not continue the discussion?

[autumn dawn]

unf

[uncut kayak]

nah dawg you got it all wrong thats john halo

[slender night]

True!

[autumn dawn]

for sure that was jane metroid

[uncut kayak]

hes the guy that goes "im gears of war and this is my killzone"

[rare flax]

Anyway I'm hoping that my rtx 3060 laptop would be able to run Doom TDA because the minimun specs are high. I can't figure out if the specs tell "60fps low settings" because the gpus are not that strong or because the textures needs 8gb minimun

[slender night]

They should give us the Quake III skin and call it Doom, instant GOTY

[cobalt fog]

Wake up boiz the peak ages demo just dropped

[slender night]

Happy April Fools!!

[uncut kayak]

nah she the chick who goes "the call of duty brings me to da battlefield"

[slender night]

A line like that genuinely exists in the DOOM franchise

[autumn dawn]

now i wanna draw doomguy and samus

[uncut kayak]

she does show up for a cameo and says her catchphrase

this happens in doom the dark ages

[autumn dawn]

who's she

main protag in TDA's a girl???

nice

mancubus has that eww....

experimenting with text formats

[autumn dawn]

i give up

[uncut kayak]

jane metroid

[uncut kayak]

WOKE WOKE WOKE REEE

[autumn dawn]

is she the girl who goes " "

[uncut kayak]

nah she says "da call of duty bring me to da battlefield"

[autumn dawn]

girl protags in a generally male franchise are a welcome change

[uncut kayak]

the furiosa mad max spinoff went hard it shouldn't have failed

[autumn dawn]

ummmm i can't think of any other franchises but STILL

[uncut kayak]

star wars had force awakens and rogue one

both of those were pretty good

[autumn dawn]

wolfenstein had female protags but it flopped (based on metacritic)

youngblood

o no

[uncut kayak]

never happened

fake game

there are only three entries in the Wolfenstein Reboot series

[autumn dawn]

fair enough

[uncut kayak]

some corny ahh goontuber def gonna have this in their title/thumbnail 😭

[autumn dawn]

take your guesses

speaking of, what's the purpose of #vega-playground

[uncut kayak]

id software done enslaved vega

making him find and post pictures of dogs

[wooden acorn]

Day 68 of 112

[wooden acorn]

The bot has commands people can use so there’s a channel specifically for those commands so the main chats don’t get flooded with the bot commands

[autumn dawn]

now it isn't even working

[grizzled thicket]

Damn

[uncut kayak]

kill? Nah, force it to browse yt shorts brainrot

[hoary path]

TDA RELEASED EARLY

(Nobody is falling for this)

She rejected me so yeah I agree

[grizzled thicket]

Damn

[hoary path]

Crazy even

[uncut kayak]

I got the game early

id software said I was cool enough so they gave it to me for free early

[hoary path]

Same

And the dlcs

[uncut kayak]

frfr ts game is peak

[hoary path]

I killed davoth's father

[autumn dawn]

my brothers 11 years old and below watch yt shorts religiously, and shit on me for watching vtubers

haha

[uncut kayak]

the DLC where you go back in time to id software HQ to stop them from releasing TAG 2 was 🔥

[autumn dawn]

like i don't even watch vtubers regularly, almost seldom

[uncut kayak]

my brother watches youtube shorts and my parents regularly go downstairs to his room at night and scream at him for refusing to turn off his phone and he has the AUDACITY to try and knock me for watching South Park

[hoary path]

I hope tda will run on gzdoom

Tda.wad

[uncut kayak]

theres already a mod to get the shield in

[hoary path]

There is a mod to add almost all weapons so far

[autumn dawn]

brothers in arms

[slender night]

TAG 2 was good y'all are tweaking

[frosty spear]

Thats what im saying

[uncut kayak]

mfs who bros are addicted to yt shorts brainrot instead of insta reels 🥀

[hoary path]

Tag3 was better tho

[uncut kayak]

the final boss sucked

[uncut kayak]

frfr

[frosty spear]

TAG 2 was epic

[slender night]

It was cheap yes but it was an enjoyable fight

[autumn dawn]

i also don't use insta

[hoary path]

Doomguy awakens from his tomb to get a drink

[uncut kayak]

World Spear was cool tho

that level was good I'll give em that

[frosty spear]

Immora had the best OST

[uncut kayak]

also reclaimed earth was nice

[autumn dawn]

tbf Davoth was easily stunlocked

[hoary path]

(I never played doom or eternal)

[uncut kayak]

true the fight wasn't hard it was just tedious

[wheat sigil]

world spear was severely lacking from an encounter design and arena design perspective, music was also meh

[autumn dawn]

(I never played doom eternal)

[uncut kayak]

true reclaimed earth was prolly better

[slender night]

The fight is far from tedious, at least in my experience, it's incredibly fun to continually bash him and test your skills

[wheat sigil]

same, i also never played the game

[hoary path]

You should play it, I personally really liked it

[wheat sigil]

also lacking in the same exact way

[autumn dawn]

really, i liked world spear

[wheat sigil]

the terrible new enemies and the hammer certainly didn't help the levels lol

[slender night]

The difficulty is just right for me

[frosty spear]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-bryan-cranston-sad-oh-no-gif-17379933

[autumn dawn]

i want to, but i don't have the money or specs for even 2016

[hoary path]

Why do you all like tag so much? I always preferred hide and seek

[slender night]

I think Nightmare not being bullshit hard anymore is an issue but it is a fault of DOOM Eternal as a whole tho

[hoary path]

Same

[wheat sigil]

tag1 is underrated and tag2 is overrated imo

[slender night]

Happy April Fools!

[hoary path]

You too

[autumn dawn]

april fools just ended in my country

welcome back to suffering

[hoary path]

I got 4 hours left

[wheat sigil]

same

[hoary path]

Time for some harmless pranks

[grizzled thicket]

I think that tag1 is underrated and tag2 is rated well

[wheat sigil]

haven't donr anything yet and probably won't either

[weary current]

i got like half a day left, y'all are lucky

[hoary path]

Same

[autumn dawn]

what did you think of the maligog "fight"

[slender night]

Reddit is seething over April Fools right now lol

[grizzled thicket]

Too easy

[hoary path]

I already almost cried in the first 15 minutes today

[wheat sigil]

mediocre

[grizzled thicket]

It’s a boring boss

[autumn dawn]

music was good, boss fight concept is meh

[wheat sigil]

samur was way better

[grizzled thicket]

Music is really good imo

[wheat sigil]

trial of maligog can barely be counted as a boss even

[grizzled thicket]

The fight or the music?

[scenic lichen]

Does anybody know where it was stated how old the build YouTubers played was?

[grizzled thicket]

Yes it’s too easy

[wheat sigil]

i was thinking about the fight, don't remember the music for either one

[autumn dawn]

although the ost is kinda just ambience iirc

[scenic lichen]

Some1 here mentioned 3 months but where was that said

[grizzled thicket]

It’s one of the best bosses in the game so

[wheat sigil]

true, the samur bossfight is vehemently underrated

[autumn dawn]

"for my 2nd healthbar, i send upon you..."

2 possessed marauders

[wheat sigil]

mostly people dislike it because 2 spirits super scary/bad...

[grizzled thicket]

Yes and it’s like the hardest boss or one of

[weary current]

3 months about what

[grizzled thicket]

It’s a hard part

[wheat sigil]

spirits are a great concept

[grizzled thicket]

Ye

[wheat sigil]

we already got that multiple times, instead they leaned into other aspects of the gameplay

[scenic lichen]

About how old the build the YouTubers played was

[weary current]

oh ok

i got confused for a minute and thought you were talking about a post-release update or smth

[wheat sigil]

probably the hardest

[slender night]

No the Samur fight theme is amazing

[grizzled thicket]

Yes it was a nightmere for me in UN

[autumn dawn]

i gotta relisten some other time

[graceful tulip]

Prince asscrack needs to turn into a dragon during the fight

[slender night]

Cap emoji is crazy it's literally one of the best boss themes in the series

[wheat sigil]

don't remember how it went for me when i fought him in my playthrough

might just replay him boe because i'm bored xd

[grizzled thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-nuh-locked-in-gif-8954228242798507174

[slender night]

Oh right... April Fools!

[grizzled thicket]

I would send a gif to resbond to that but id get muted for sending a meme so

Fuck me

[wheat sigil]

replayed the samur bossfight, it's good

[weary current]

hold on they brought back those horizontal spinning imps too

that's gonna be a bit of a nightmare to deal with

[prime sentinel]

Honestly I really like most of it but one of the phases just makes me so angry lol

It’s like most of the fight is pretty manageable then the one phase is just a huge spike in difficulty for me

Haven’t played it in a bit but that’s how I remember feeling last time

[wheat sigil]

you can straight up stand and shoot 4 arbalest shots to kill the pain elemental

the worst thing with the fight is the 1 minute caco phase imo

[prime sentinel]

I remember really struggling with the last spirit phase even in my latest play through personally

But I don’t have a ton of time in eternal relative to a lot of people

So maybe this doesn’t reflect what a more experienced player thinks, but it’s my perspective

I like most of the fight. I like how the arena changes up

I like when the environment is a factor in a boss fight, Davoth didn’t have that

But perhaps that would ruin the true 1 on 1 feel of that one

[wheat sigil]

that's an issue in general with tag2

[wheat sigil]

no, but it would take more time to make

which they didn't have because of the 1 year deadline...

[prime sentinel]

Rough but it is what it is and fwiw I still rather like tag2

Not as much as tag1

But I think the second level is really cool

I like the Plutonia references

Reclaimed earth, there we go, finally came to me

Also the swimming section in the flooded train station is dope

Makes me wonder what TDA’s dlc could look like

Hopefully another crazy world event doesn’t happen that messes with the devs

Only in 2 of the 5(?) phases

Besides, traditional doom boss fights have never really been 1 on 1s

Going all the way back to doom 1

[wheat sigil]

issue is, the spirits actually accentuate the well refined aspects of Eternal's combat, and the dark lord is quite badly designed and blatantly cheats

[prime sentinel]

My problem with the dark lord is that there is a huge difficulty spike in the last phase lmao

Again, I think it is pretty easy up till then

Skill issue 😔

Personally I prefer the base game bosses

But your mileage may vary

Though I’m not a huge fan of the icon of sin

I like that he’s a huge showcase of demon destruction though

The final boss is a tech showcase

Ackshually you have to shoot all his armor off in the first phase which requires you to shoot his whole body which is what makes it kinda obnoxious 🤓

[slender night]

I liked the boss tbh

[prime sentinel]

He’s fine

But probably my least favorite base game boss

Least favorite dlc included is The Dark Lord

As much as I like the concept

Really I’m just nit picking one of my favorite games

Everyone forgetting the trial of maligog or whatever

The cube boss

Or that one in Nekravol

They were fun little challenges haha

I really like blood swamps because it’s so gimmicky and weird

One of the coolest environments in the game, very quake 1 like

[wheat sigil]

he's neat imo

gets the whole dealing with multiple smaller threats while there's 1 overarching threat

[devout cove]

main menu music just dropped

[hazy mist]

Does doomguy get a fast sprint out of combat or something?

[devout cove]

nah, it's the sprint button

[hazy mist]

There’s a sprint button in doom?

[slender night]

There has been in every one but 2016 and Eternal

[devout cove]

yeah, in tda there will be

[hazy mist]

Also something I’m really curious about is the ammo, armor, and health upgrades being tied to enemy kills

[frail bloom]

All of it or a portion?

[frail bloom]

PLEASE I MUST HEAR IT😭

[lusty shale]

snippet

but it's amazing

[frail bloom]

May you send it in the music section, I don't have access to social media platforms at the moment

Don't ask why I just don't

[lusty shale]

alr

[frail bloom]

Thank you

[winter idol]

https://youtu.be/dqiUHIkHjBE?si=ouGEQei--VJJx8kN

[frail bloom]

If this is the main menu I'm not gonna be able to process the rest of the ost😭

It's so damn good😭

@silent surge I know what you meant when you said it was tasty😭

It's so medieval and why do I keep crying😭 🔥 🔥

Y'know what it reminds me of rust, dust and guts from mick gordon

[nova spear]

doom the dark ages prolly gonna have the best soundtracks bro

[frail bloom]

It possibly can

[nova spear]

theres currenly only 3 weve heard, and they sound better than most of 2016s and eternals

[plain iron]

Genuinely better than mick gordon imo

Mick was always far too shrill for me

[nova spear]

hes the goat but finishing move is cooking rn

[frail bloom]

I wouldn't say that... I'd say right now they could be equal

[plain iron]

Eh he's... fine

[frail bloom]

Just my personal taste

[nova spear]

cant deny that he made crazy soundtracks

[plain iron]

I've always preferred Andrew Hulshult over mick

[nova spear]

like soundtracks?

[frail bloom]

If any redditor see's this they'll implode😭

[winter idol]

People got too parasocial with mick

[plain iron]

Mhm, I've always preferred Hulshult

[nova spear]

im lost at what happened with him tho

[winter idol]

Like thats old news now, some people just need to move on

[frail bloom]

Bloodswamps is genuinly haunting to listen to sometimes

[plain iron]

It happens a lot in the music industry

[slender night]

I love Mick Gordon's work personally but I also don't mind hearing new people

[frail bloom]

And world spear is so groovy I have to contain myself sometimes

[nova spear]

yeah, and some people still wont play the game because of mick

[winter idol]

World spear had the best ambient track in the game

[frail bloom]

I love them all, even aubrey hodges

[nova spear]

like finishing move sounds so good and they STILL not happy

[slender night]

Chris Vrenna is underrated

[frail bloom]

Well more for me

[plain iron]

Hrr I fucking love Atlanta facility

[nova spear]

[slender night]

I think a bunch of them won't play it because they don't wanna give Bethesda money after what happened

[winter idol]

Too bad for them then

[nova spear]

does anybody know if the slayer smiled when he saw the dark lord or was his expression really furious?

[frail bloom]

Yes it's like a futuristic meathook😭

[winter idol]

Dont buy any thing from anyone cause EVERY company abuses people

[slender night]

If you equip a helmetless skin you can see

[plain iron]

He's frowning.

[nova spear]

Ah thanks for confirming

i was hella confused

[frail bloom]

He does do it with the marauder tho

[nova spear]

yep

[hazy mist]

Do weapon mod effects stack?

[plain iron]

Friend :D

They at least knew each other

[nova spear]

i hate the marauder so much bro

[plain iron]

I wish we saw doomguy's face when he yoinked Samuel

[silent surge]

people were sleeping on finishing move, i tried to say give em a chance, but nooOooOo

[nova spear]

only dlc exclusive

[sonic ivy]

https://youtu.be/dqiUHIkHjBE?si=vhDamM5i9sukQDag

ts so peak

[frail bloom]

How did into sandy's city sound? Do you remember?

[silent surge]

this was before all the music came out, too

[nova spear]

yo dude i love your video about the dark ages

[weary current]

i knew periphery was following finishing move on socials for a reason, even misha bulb monsoor the goat himself knew of them

[silent surge]

it was the harpsichord part referenced at the start

[frail bloom]

PPEAAAAKKK

[silent surge]

i mean they’re doing the new microsoft flight sim AND doom

but no - they’re just “corporate guys”, right??? cmon

[frail bloom]

Yeah that just shows that they're varied

[weary current]

who was saying that they were corporate guys??? what???

[frail bloom]

As musicians if they're able to pull this off it's genuinly impressive

[weary current]

they sound like genuinely good non-corporate peeps, i'm confused

[silent surge]

you run into lots of interesting comments when a video gets more views than it usually does

[frail bloom]

I think it's cuz they are somewhat a company, but that has nothing to do with their work or personality

[silent surge]

i did a video talking about the ost soundtrack over a month ago and yeee about the comments

[frail bloom]

People like buzzwords man

[silent surge]

before i even flew out to play

“give finishing move a chance”

[nova spear]

how does it feel to play the game? much different from eternal?

[silent surge]

“no allstin you’re just some old washed up doomdad”
ok i made that one up but still

[silent surge]

yes
i was jumping all around at first

[pallid wing]

It's true tho 😁

[plain iron]

Doomdad is a nice word.

[silent surge]

i’m not old… yet

[nova spear]

eventually you get the hang of it and rip and tear with the shield, sounds so fun

[pallid wing]

Can we turn off slow motion?

[nova spear]

you look 30

[silent surge]

not bad not bad

[grizzled thicket]

damn

[silent surge]

too young. but not 40 yet either.

[nova spear]

😭 jeez

[grizzled thicket]

36

[nova spear]

39

[silent surge]

get out of my head you mind reader!!!

[nova spear]

naww

[silent surge]

ewwww no that’s OLD

[grizzled thicket]

was I correct!?

[silent surge]

mods ban this man for hacking

[plain iron]

Also someone get finishing move a hurdy-gurdy. Gotta get them the goober instrument

[nova spear]

acting like 3 years difference isnt old aswell 😭

[grizzled thicket]

wtf

[pallid wing]

Only the slow motion effects on parry's looked irksome

[silent surge]

big hacker
jk
nice job

[plain iron]

That ain't old dawg 😭

[silent surge]

it’s so old, old as samur

[grizzled thicket]

what can I say I'm just lucky

[silent surge]

i wanna see samur in dark ages

[plain iron]

SAME.

[proud vine]

Am i the only one that can barely hear the music from the new gameplays?

[plain iron]

For different reasons I presume but YES.

[silent surge]

default settings weren’t turned up too high

[proud vine]

That makes sense

[nova spear]

i thought there wasnt any music at all

[pallid wing]

Ggman said he played on nightmare but mayo said it was all hurt me plenty

[proud vine]

Tbh i can't hear it at all basically

[nova spear]

i thought i was gonna hear infernal chasm bro

[plain iron]

Tbf, the commentators do need to be heard

[proud vine]

Why didn't they leave the audio setting on default 😭

[proud vine]

Fair point

[nova spear]

fr 😭 i was like "maybe theres gonna be music at certain levels of the mission"

like in eternal big scale battles have the good music

and looks like in TDA theres always big battles

[proud vine]

I guess we are gonna have to wait until the 13th to hear the new bangers while slaying demons

[nova spear]

whos we 💔

[grizzled thicket]

wait your 17 years older than me

[plain iron]

Me

[proud vine]

Me and my imaginary friend

[nova spear]

crazy that i gotta spend 200 for premium😭

[nova spear]

it builds up the hype even more

im impatient ashell

[proud vine]

Fair enuogh

[pallid wing]

Ost release?

[plain iron]

Genuinely it was cheaper for me to get the collectors edition than just the premium

[proud vine]

After the game i think

[nova spear]

400

very cheap for me

[proud vine]

Idk the premium was cheaper here

[nova spear]

i actually have to be employed for a while to get the collectors edition

[late vine]

A decent Digital Foundry preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VawgKaIfbg

[proud vine]

He does shit on eternal for no reason tho ngl

[proud vine]

Doom the employed ages

[late vine]

I tend to agree with his opinion on Eternal. Don't think he was shitting on it

[proud vine]

Difference in opinions i guess

[nova spear]

eternals parkour makes me kinda lose excitment

just let me slay them all damnit

[proud vine]

That is actually a fair point ngl

[nova spear]

and the sometimes impossible secrets and collectibles hidden

im a player who wants to collect everything, but eternal makes it impossible for me

[plain iron]

I mean overall

[proud vine]

Parkour in eternal was a "resting my brain moment" for me

[plain iron]

I did some ranting abt it a few days ago

[nova spear]

mine was glory kills

the glory kills in TDA look fuckin sick

[proud vine]

Tbh i don't even have the space to put the slayer statue

[proud vine]

They fucking do!

[nova spear]

the graphics make it so bloody and gorey its perfect

[late vine]

I kinda like the simple run n gun freedom of the originals. Lots of player choice - where to go, how to fight, when to fight etc.

[frail bloom]

Rippin demon hearts in front of them to spite them

[proud vine]

I hope my 4070 super can tank it ngl

[nova spear]

best part of the glory kills ngl

i cant play tda infront of my parents sadly

[barren iron]

I'm very intrigued to see how this game performs, it forces ray-tracing, but also has the latest DLSS support

[nova spear]

i wonder how it will look on a ps5 pro

with ray tracing and max graphics

[frail bloom]

That's what I'm playing it on

[barren iron]

I like they took the canned animation glory kills away for the most part

[proud vine]

The "pro" in the ps5 is basically nothing tbh

[nova spear]

same, sole reason why i bought the console

[nova spear]

i enjoy the 2 tb and slight improvement in performance tho

[frail bloom]

Makes them feel special when you do initiate one

[barren iron]

yeah also the combat seems to flow much better

[proud vine]

It does not justify the 800 dollars price tag imo

[nova spear]

because you arent jumping around like a jet like eternal

[hard thistle]

Will DOOM: The Dark Ages have an arachnophobia mode?

[nova spear]

yeah i feel like it would be worth it if they included a stand and the pro controller

[proud vine]

I don't think so?

[barren iron]

yeah I saw a video earlier that PERFECTLY captured my feelings about it, it's a great game, but the constant jumping and over-reliance of the glory kill system made it kind of exhausting to play

[weary current]

dualsense edge, you mean?

[nova spear]

yes

[frail bloom]

I'd say doom eternal is more a ferrari

And doom the dark ages a monster truck

[nova spear]

fax

[proud vine]

Yes

[nova spear]

i prefer to be a monster truck imo

[frail bloom]

Because 9 times outta 10 you're gonna pick the fighter jet over a tank😭

Gotta reword it

[nova spear]

😭

erm

[plain iron]

It's around 160 for premium, and if we use the the TAG slayer statue as a price base for the TDA one, which for me was a bit over 240 for me, which gives us 400aud, and the TAG statue is much smaller than the TDA statue, which means it would be cheaper. But I only played 340aud for the collectors edition, when if I got the premium edition and then a statue it would've cost more.

[frail bloom]

I prefer monster truck too but saying fighter jet over tank is such a misstep lol

[plain iron]

Makes sense to me.

[nova spear]

i love being a fighter jet but sometimes my trash aim doesnt compliment it

an iron tank seems to fit me

[frail bloom]

Just depends on context to me

[nova spear]

i think fighter jet is more for pc users

but it depends on the player ig

[frail bloom]

💯

[barren iron]

One of my favorite things is when they first announced the mech section, people were like "oh this is cool" and then they debuted the fact it's a whole ass level and people lost their minds lmao

[nova spear]

WHOLE LEVEL BEING AN ATLAN???

did i read this correctly

[barren iron]

if not a whole level, it's a pretty major section from what I've seen/heard

[nova spear]

im losing my shi

[barren iron]

it's not like an on-rails thing either, you're controlling the mech the whole time

[wheat sigil]

it works completely fine on console too, the difference is not that large